Welcome to the new manager podcast.
I'm your host, Kim nickel. Hello and welcome.
I'm glad that you're here. And I hope you're doing well.
Today. I want to talk about meetings.
It's often the most dreaded part of the work week rarely do
people say, you know, what, I need more of.
I need more meetings, most of the time.
It's a feeling like there are too many meetings.
They are not that useful. They take up all this time and
there's no time to actually do work.
So, I've been thinking about that and also today, I
facilitated a half-day, team off-site was a team of 16
people. Several of them were very new
and they were anticipating growing and bringing on new
hires and one of the focuses for the meeting was to talk about
team Norms, including What are our expectations around?
How we do our team meeting? How do we make them more
effective and together? We spent three hours a good
chunk of that time. Was just focused on like, how do
we share information? How often do we want to have
meetings? What are the expectations around
different time zones? Should we use Mewtwo?
Should we use the hand raised feature?
Like really getting quite detailed and One of the things I
really appreciated about the experience and that I wanted to
bring to you was that it can be very tedious to look at how you
do meetings and have a conversation about that rather
than simply just going with the momentum of how you've done
meetings in the past. But the value of that is
tremendous. So yes acknowledging, it takes
some effort. But it can be so worth it,
especially as the team is growing because the more people
you add to anything, the more you amplify, the things that
work and the things that don't, and sometimes teams can work
very well together, only at a certain size and then as the
size of the team grows, or you start to lose people and bring
new people in. Then some of the relationships
that created the processes and systems start to break and
Things become difficult. So here's what I was thinking
about that. I wanted to share with you.
Number one. Most people don't like meetings
for the same reason. They don't like brussels
sprouts. They've just never had a really
good one. And if you've only had a
Brussels sprout, that was I overcooked and not that
flavorful. You would probably not want to
have more and sing with meetings.
If you have never had a meeting that was thoughtfully designed.
That was very clear about what you were to accomplish.
That had the right people in it. That had the right amount of
trust and structure and focus, and a feeling of satisfaction.
Then, of course, you wouldn't want to have another one.
So it takes some work to be intentional and I thought and
how you plan meetings, some of the things you want to ask
yourself are. What are your team norms and
look at what are the Norms you have right now?
What is your current status with your team meetings and make a
list? If you had to identify the
characteristics of your meeting, what stands out to you?
What are the norms and do this without any Judgment of whether
Whether it's good or bad, just assess.
Just take a snapshot. What do we do right now?
Then you also want to ask? What are your personal
preferences? You might be in meetings that
are very much against your personal preferences.
You might think I need to say yes to be a team player.
So for example, you might be in a time zone where every time
meetings get scheduled it conflicts with your lunchtime.
And you're thinking, I just have to say yes to these meetings
because they are scheduled and I have to be a team player.
And so I will be accommodating and all of that is great.
However, be intentional. You may be able to change that
meeting simply by saying. Oh, I'm not available at this
time. You might simply block time on
your calendar, that shows you as not available, so you can
protect that time for lunch. And remember, we all do.
Bunch of different times. Some of us are early lunch
people, some of us quite late. So we can't assume that the
person booking, the meeting has the same preference for the same
understanding. There are things you can do to
support your ease and well-being and your personal preferences.
Also consider, what are the constraints due to time zones,
or where people are located? Now that a lot of us are working
in a hybrid environment. What are or expectations or
group preferences around when you're in the office or when
your remote and as you start to look at all these things, your
current team, Norms, your personal preferences, the
constraints you're working with, then you ask, how can you design
for that to make best use of everyone's attention and time
and energy? And yes, it takes emotional
labor and a desire to To do this work, but the payoff is that you
start to create Clarity. You make it easier for people to
work well together. And as you grow, you establish
an environment and clear language, that makes it easy for
new folks to acclimate and to ramp up quickly.
It's a way of creating more he's in the system and in the process
so that it's easier to do good work together.
Now, most of us. Of us, simply create our
meetings by default by habit or by neglect.
So, of course, there is high meeting a version when we're not
being intentional about the humans who are part of this
experience. And this can also look like lots
of confusion low-level resentment or a general sense of
fatigue. So the good news in all this
number. Your past does not create your
future. So just because you've been
doing meetings in a way that is just, you know, might be
tradition. This is just how we've always
done our meetings. They've always been an hour long
just because that's part of your past does not mean you need to
make that your future because you get to create your future
now in the present moment, and this is an iterative process.
So don't think you have to come up.
Up with a perfect meeting plan or the perfect team norms and
then launch them and have everything go perfectly.
This is an iterative living process because you are a living
a live person and you are working with other humans and
there is a dynamic relationship here.
The overarching question is, how do we work together?
And then specifically how do we design our Meetings.
So, that we make the best use of everyone's time.
So that maybe we even look forward to them because they are
effective. They are connective and it makes
our life better to have these specific meetings.
Now, just as one small note. I have found it in my own
practice to be very helpful to never schedule things for a half
or a full hour. 90 minutes 45 minutes or 50 minutes is lovely
because that means that you build in a little buffer time.
So that whatever is coming next you're not going to bump up
against that and sort of not give yourself transition time.
And for the person that you're meeting with it gives them a
little bit of buffer time as well.
So you can build that into your practice.
Simply by adjusting the duration of your meetings, a lot of
meeting tools and calendar, tools will give you default
settings for the 15, 30 45 or our you do not need to follow
that. You can make it 20 minutes, 25
minutes. And what happens when you have a
more compressed time, is it requires you to be more clear
and focused about how you're going to use that time?
And that benefits everybody when we do that, work up front.
So that when we arrive, we're ready to go.
You can also think in terms of what is this meeting for?
Is it to build connection? Is it to share information?
Is it to have a live Q&A so that we can be very efficient
together and answering everyone's questions around this
particular topic. Are we meeting in order to make
a decision? What is the purpose?
What will success look like. And when you have that sense of
clarity, that also means that if you reach that success marker,
before the allocated time, you can then release people, it is
okay, to end meanings early. It doesn't mean that you, you
know, misallocated, right? It just means, like, okay.
I set 25 minutes for this meeting turns out.
We were able to Accomplish everything in fifteen.
So we're done. Like continue on and use your
time giving people time back is a gift.
It's not something to feel bad about.
So that is what I wanted to offer you today is simply this
thought of how can I make meetings better?
It's unlikely that you will ever be completely free of them.
So as long as you're going to have them, why not make them
good. How do you want to work
together? What will make your meetings
better? You have more power to influence
this and create a good outcome. Then you might realize and if
you're thinking well, but I am not the one setting the meeting.
I'd have no choice but to accept the meeting invites and to go
along with what's given to me. I would question that.
You never know what else is possible.
And this also is where that level of awareness and
communication, skill comes in and remember, being a leader
means going first, and sometimes that means like raising your
hand or speaking to someone separately and saying, hey, I
know we've been doing our meetings in this way.
I have an idea, I wanted to share with you.
I wanted to see what you think and you can offer a Cheston,
invite them to see what's possible.
One of my clients was telling me, I work with this person and
they suffer from a lack of imagination.
They just can't see what's possible.
And so, they're always, you know, doing things the way
they've done it in the past and they're always surprised and
resistant. When, you know, they suggest
doing something different. We're all there from time to
time. It's fine.
But remember that just because the people around you have
fancier titles, or have been there longer.
It doesn't mean that they know the most or the best about how
to create an effective meeting. There, might be an opportunity
to improve things and you can do it through small choices and
really gentle adjustments. And when you start to find what
works, oh my gosh, everybody loves that.
Everybody loves it when meetings get better.
So that is what I wanted to offer you today.
I hope that you have a really good week coming up.
I hope your meetings are effective.
Joyful and satisfying and if they're not remember, you can do
something about it. Alright, that's it for me today.
Have a great one and I'll talk to you later.
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