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Welcome to the new manager 
podcast. 

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I'm your host, Kim nickel. 
Hello and welcome. 

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I hope you're doing well. 
I am glad that you're here. 

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And what I want us to dive into 
today, is this idea of 

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perfection and how it will bite 
you in the butt. 

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And I want you to be aware of 
this. 

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One of the things that I notice 
with my students and clients who

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are new managers, Is everyone 
has a very strong desire to do a

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good job at managing their team,
which is a good thing. 

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But the difficult part sometimes
shows up, when I see people, 

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like, I see you wanting to be 
perfect. 

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And what that turns into is 
extraordinary, self-judgment it 

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turns into To putting a ton of 
pressure on yourself and a lot 

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of anxiety and fear about will 
others. 

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See me, making a mistake. 
Will I do something wrong. 

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What if I mess up? 
What if I'm not actually cut out

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for this? 
This is more difficult than I 

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thought it would be, or this is 
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I didn't realize, it would be 
and all That ends up undermining

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the confidence in the value that
you have to bring to your 

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organization and to your team. 
And it's kind of sneaky because 

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remember, the initial intention 
is really great, right? 

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Like you want to do a good job 
and you're excited because 

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you're now in this manager role 
and you've been wanting that for

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a while and now you're there, 
but it can twist and become 

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extraordinary. 
Ordinarily unhelpful because it 

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will isolate you, which means 
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It will prevent you from being 
very genuine and authentic 

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because you'll be trying to 
manage your image or what you 

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think other people think about 
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So rather than simply saying 
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you know, I'm going to need to 
ask for help as I sort this as I

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sort this out in. 
Have doing that you'll pretend 

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or you'll try to hide it and 
that it just it doesn't work. 

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And if you've found yourself 
kind of caught in this 

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conundrum, then you know, it's 
not, it doesn't really work, but

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we do it because we are human. 
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want you to know it is, okay? 
Like that is such a normal thing

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to happen. 
So instead some ways to think 

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about This. 
And I've talked about this 

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before in a few different ways 
in this podcast, the episode 

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about the to be list, really 
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Like the idea of decide who you 
want to be, or one word that 

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will ground you in who like who 
you want to be on this day your 

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being will drive. 
You're doing. 

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So you don't have to worry 
about, I have to take all these 

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specific actions if you simply 
decide, okay? 

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Today I am going to be willing 
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try things. 
I'm going to be willing to ask 

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for help. 
I'm going to be willing to 

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Simply listen and not take a lot
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sense of what the situation is. 
If you choose that to be list, 

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right? 
The one word for this one day 

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that you will come back to that,
you will be the way that you are

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will inform the actions. 
You take what you do. 

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So you don't have to kind of 
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plan of action. 
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actually becomes more available 
in the moment to In the most 

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appropriate way it can relieve 
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then you're not judging yourself
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executing according to your plan
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yesterday. 
Like it just allows you to be in

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the moment being responsive and 
receptive and fully engaged with

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what is really happening in the 
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valuable. 
So this idea of when, you know 

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who you want to be right, like 
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Also in an earlier episode when 
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and decoupling your sense of 
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certainty and perfect 
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Like there will be times when as
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make a decision with imperfect 
information or Under 

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less-than-ideal circumstances 
and you will make your best 

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assessment, you will use your 
discernment and make your your 

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best judgment call on the 
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And as it plays out, you may 
need to then make another 

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decision because maybe the one 
that you made didn't actually 

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work out the way you thought it 
would and that's okay, it 

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happens, right? 
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to very quickly We reassess 
adapt and move forward. 

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We want you to be able to learn 
as you go and it's really hard 

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to learn. 
If you're kind of carrying this 

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heavy baggage of self judgement 
and anxiety and feeling bad that

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you're letting people down like 
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And so I'm wanting to do, share 
this with you. 

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And you know, this is also like 
everything I share here. 

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Also, learned from personal 
experience, I have been there, 

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so I want to share this with you
to, hopefully offer some 

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perspectives that might help 
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So this is our simple key 
message for today, watch out for

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perfection. 
It comes from a place of wanting

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to help, but it will bite you in
the butt and actually prevent 

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you from learning quickly from 
adopting, quickly from building 

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trust quickly. 
And so, I wanted to offer that 

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perspective to you. 
Also this idea of deciding who 

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you want to be. 
How are you going to show up? 

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Who do you want to be for your 
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Who do you want to be within 
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Perfection is a lot less 
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is learning or being someone who
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perspective or by doing things 
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others would not have realized 
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Like there are so many different
ways that when you let go of 

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perfection, you kind of open the
door to all of this other 

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possibility and all of this 
other value that really becomes 

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something that you own that you 
bring with you, anywhere you go 

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and this. like, if I had a 
visual highlighter or like 

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sparkle stickers, I put it 
around this part of this 

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episode, because Hi, I want you.
To know that you can choose. 

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Who you are going to be, what 
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What kind of manager? 
What kind of person you are 

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going to be no matter what else 
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So no matter what is happening 
in your industry, how will you 

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show up for yourself and for 
your team? 

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No matter what changes happen 
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whether it's a leadership change
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layoffs, or whatever happens in 
your organization, can you 

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choose who you want to be no 
matter what else is happening 

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around you? 
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can you stay clear and connected
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Which is true for you about who 
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to show up as a leader in your 
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And this last point, I think is 
so important because I work with

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so many students. 
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years and the site this topic of
culture, right, like the culture

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of my organization is like this,
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this way. 
We can get really wrapped up in 

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needing the culture of our 
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way. 
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To be how we want to be and that
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Like, that is not helpful. 
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because then what we end up 
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releasing our responsibility for
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the, the seat of your power 
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Like you might have heard me 
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which is the most powerful seat.
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you're looking at the org chart 
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where is the power here, the 
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that you are sitting in. 
Because it is only from your 

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seat that you have any leverage 
at all that you have any 

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influence at all. 
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you are the newest hire. 
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higher, if you are the most 
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most, you know, seasoned 
experienced person like wherever

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you are in the org chart, that 
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for you. 
So be mindful if you're noticing

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that the culture in which your 
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organization is not bringing out
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attention to that. 
It's really easy to kind of 

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collapse and to, you know, go 
into coping mode and I have seen

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this in so many different ways. 
It's so much easier to develop 

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your coping strategies, then 
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Geez, because, you know, it's 
draining in so many dimensions 

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and so many ways. 
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to is this idea that when you 
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be, no matter what the culture 
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you, that becomes something that
brings in more of that 

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confidence that lives in, you 
know, Matter what else is 

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happening. 
And it's something that as a 

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coach and as a teacher I love 
seeing like the this spark of 

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realization in my students, when
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Wow, I can actually decide how I
want to show up and who I want 

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to be no matter what else is 
happening around me like, that 

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is so powerful and it is of such
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we are, Are as an organization 
when you are in a challenging 

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situation. 
I mean, we all want to be able 

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to look to someone in a 
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and feel a sense of groundedness
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Like okay, no matter what else 
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There's a steadiness in them 
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outside things. 
Going a certain way, you know. 

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It's one thing. 
It's one thing to feel like, 

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yeah, I'm a really great 
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Only when everything is going 
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we really really value. 
And especially all of us now, is

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knowing that even when things 
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are unpredictable or unsteady or
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change happening. 
When we can look to our manager,

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our leader, with a sense of 
trust with a sense that okay? 

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Like they have confidence in who
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to be that allows us all to do, 
better work to sleep better at 

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night, to work more. 
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with one another, that improves 
things in so many Ways and 

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what's really nice is that it's 
always available to you, it's 

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always an option. 
So remember a few moments ago, I

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was talking about how you might 
make a decision and then realize

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you need to make another one 
because the one you made is not 

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going to get you to the to what 
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This also applies to how we show
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So as a human, we have a lot of 
range, sometimes we have a lot 

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of patience, sometimes we don't 
sometimes we're feeling very 

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confident, sometimes are. 
Insecurities flare-up it's all 

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fine. 
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Remember Perfection is not the 
goal remembering who you want to

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be and then choosing to show up 
in that way asking. 

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What would I do? 
What would I choose if I was 

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going to be connected to my 
sense of purpose today or to my 

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desire to uplift and support 
others today, or my desire to 

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contribute. 
In a meaningful way. 

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Today, all of that will really 
change the way that you show up 

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as a manager for your team and 
also for yourself. 

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So, take all of that Cimarron, 
it listen to this episode. 

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Again, if you need to be covered
a lot in a very short period of 

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time, and I hope that you enjoy 
and get great use out of this in

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your work life. 
Thanks so much. 

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I'll talk to you. 
Next time. 

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Do you want personal 
confidential help with your 

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situation at work. 
I offer one-on-one coaching and 

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can help you overcome challenges
reach your goals and become a 

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more effective leader to 
schedule a consult. 

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Go to my website, Kim nickel.com
coaching and we'll schedule time

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to talk about what's going on 
with you and how I can help talk

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to you soon.