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Welcome to the new manager 
podcast. 

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I'm your host, Kim nickel. 
Hello and welcome. 

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I'm glad you're here. 
And I hope you're doing well 

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today. 
I wanted to start with a 

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shout-out to one of my listeners
Wendy who emailed me and said 

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I'm reaching out to tell you 
thanks for the awesome podcast. 

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I've been stuck on a 
professional issue, and I 

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powered through several episodes
yesterday to try to figure out 

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what was really going on and in 
listening to the episode, 

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identify the real. 
Problem. 

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I came up with a solution 
breakthrough time and that just 

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means so much to me. 
So thank you, Andy, for that 

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message. 
And to all of you who are 

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listening and are finding ways 
to deal with all the different 

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challenges that show up at work 
and there will be a lot. 

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So don't feel bad. 
Nothing is going wrong. 

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Humans are just being human 
together and you know, things 

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get tricky sometimes. 
So I I'm here for all of it. 

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And so are you? 
Because you're here and I'm glad

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that you're here. 
So today I wanted to start by 

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sharing that with you. 
And if you want to ever leave a 

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review and let me know why you 
love the podcast do that. 

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You can also email me or connect
with me on LinkedIn. 

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Although as a heads up. 
If you connect with me on 

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LinkedIn, you have to send a 
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So I know that like you're a 
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Register and I'll, you know, 
probably just ignore it. 

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So just let me know that you are
in my listener audience, and I'm

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happy to connect with you on 
LinkedIn as well. 

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Okay, let us talk about time 
management and I feel like this 

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is a topic that can feel very 
dry. 

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It can feel very prescriptive. 
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to do or how to do your 
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It can also feel kind of 
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there are so many things to do 
and how do you get them all done

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in the course of the day, but 
when I think about time 

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management, I really see this as
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Because when you are making 
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your time, you are making 
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your Life. 
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what to give your energy to what
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That is some of the most 
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you do as a person is to decide,
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life force energy. 
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I wanted to introduce this topic
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It's also a topic that has been 
coming up a lot recently in my 

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coaching practice. 
So I've been working with a lot 

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of my clients on this. 
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noticed that I want to share 
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asking questions about how we 
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about how you spend your time. 
It is always about something 

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else. 
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simply what you're doing. 
When and how many meetings are 

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on your calendar. 
It's always connected to who you

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are as a person, what you value 
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Autonomy, you believe you have, 
what is important to you at this

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stage in your life? 
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career, but in terms of your 
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you have elderly parents and you
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care, that is going to have an 
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If you have kids, and they are 
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out of the school year on 
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your schedule. 
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health issues, that also is 
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and how you choose to use your 
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And one of the interesting 
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recently in a conversation I had
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has a lot of success in her 
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at a stage where she is 
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And she found that she was 
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And she had a lot of judgment. 
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easier. 
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You know, what, why am I, you 
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which, you know, like which 
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I meant and what we found in the
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exploring this, like what was 
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was very scary to be doing work 
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own voice. 
And because of that fear of, you

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know, will it work? 
What if you know, what if nobody

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comes, what if it's, you know, a
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Like what if I, what if I can't 
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What if I get rejected? 
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Fear was creating this 
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avoidance. 
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what was going on under the 
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very easy to make decisions 
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on and why it mattered. 
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have a lot of should like a lot 
of pressure of I should be able 

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to do these things in this 
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focused on. 
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interested in that if you feel a
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in and curious about what is the
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Now some of you might perform 
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might like that feeling of 
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urgency and like it is go time. 
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to generate a Drennan to Then 
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If you are not that person, then
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pressure thinking it will move 
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But what actually happens is, it
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activates your avoidance, and 
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or as I like to call it in my 
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You're an intelligent person and
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what I need to do. 
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it can be a very tricky form of 
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delaying something because it 
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I'm going to do more research. 
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you spend more time, simply 
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becoming overwhelmed with 
information and then the The 

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information overload creates 
overwhelm and that creates fear,

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and that adds more pressure and 
more avoidance and becomes very 

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fascinating pattern. 
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what what your relationship is 
to pressure and how that fits 

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into the way that you schedule 
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it is effective, or if it isn't,
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So we just want to notice What 
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this effective. 
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practice? 
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at the beginning of the week or 
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Actually. 
I'm going to just throw this out

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here for some of us. 
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forward-thinking towards the end
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the week is behind us for some 
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top of the week, what we feel 
really fresh, but choose a point

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in the week where you're going 
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Take a higher level. 
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Calendar. 
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the number first question. 
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Simply ask what is on my 
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Why? 
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Did you choose it? 
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choice? 
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anytime someone sends you a 
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what they'll think, if you 
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you can ask for it to be at a 
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day. 
So, just notice, what is on your

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calendar. 
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calendar? 
Is what you are agreeing to give

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your life to. 
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This is actually really 
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As a human, you know, we get to 
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have. 
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time noticing what is on my 
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stories you tell yourself about.
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And why one more point I want to
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about organizing our time as 
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a little brick like a little 
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hour or each little block of 
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to allocate it and I only have 
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I only have so many little 
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match tasks or responsibilities 
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time. 
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I find to be much more helpful. 
Is to think in terms of energy 

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and attention. 
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are all the things that I want 
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tasks that I want to get done, 
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I want to ask myself. 
What is the quality of energy 

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and attention that I will need 
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things. 
So some tasks don't require a 

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lot of energy or attention. 
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the motions. 
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administrative tasks or it might
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require a lot of creative 
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know how to do it really? 
Well, that will take different 

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energy and different attention 
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really creative work, or really 
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higher level strategic thinking,
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take a high-level view of a 
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different kind of a way. 
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organizing your schedule and 
organizing your tasks and your 

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time in terms of how do I 
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allocate energy and attention to
the outcomes or the tasks that I

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want to accomplish? 
If you know that the morning is,

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when your brightest and most 
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use that energy. 
G and attention for the tasks 

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that need that kind of thinking.
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is, when you're a little bit 
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less sharp. 
Hey, maybe that's when you do, 

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you know, the the admin work or 
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really collaborative with 
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mind, and how your own system 
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around that. 
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effective. 
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So depending if it's cold and 
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sunny and bright and warm that 
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your energy and on your 
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And in fact, you can take this 
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each quarter or according to the
school year, but take this 

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strategic perspective of what 
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work on or accomplish or 
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What is the quality of energy 
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I want to bring to those. 
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map out on my calendar? 
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that you will be making choices.
To say yes, to some things and 

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you will be making choices to 
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It may also mean in the 
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about delegating work about 
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resources, either, in terms of 
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timelines. 
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with others, but now all of a 
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certain amount of hours. 
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Now, we're working with this 

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Dynamic quality of being a 
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awareness and flexibility can 
inform your decision making in a

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way that can be really useful 
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hidden assumptions and your deep
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And by Deep fear. 
It doesn't even need to be like 

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a deep scary fear. 
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It's a bit out of sight and it's
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And then as you understand and 
learn this for yourself, it also

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becomes helpful. 
If you notice other people that 

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you work with who might have a 
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time and if they are 
consistently blowing through 

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deadlines or they're not 
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About when they say, you know, 
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This also gives you Another way 
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So rather than just focusing on 
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people on your team. 
You can be aware of and even 

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have conversations around. 
Hey, like what is the energy and

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the thinking that you'll need in
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then given that like, how can we
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that you have that energy and 
that Focus to get it done as 

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effectively and efficiently as 
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So that That is why I want to 
share with you today. 

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Time management is really about,
how are you choosing to spend 

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your life? 
This is a sacred practice. 

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These are really personal 
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They do tie into your values, 
your fears, your desires. 

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They are connected. 
Not just to you today and your 

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goals, but you might also be 
influenced by the season in the 

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year and just what is going on. 
On in your life as a human and 

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you'll realize that's also true 
for everybody else as well. 

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Thank you so much for listening.
Have a great week and I'll talk 

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to you next time. 
If you know it's time to level 

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up but you feel your 
perfectionism Self Doubt and 

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uncertainty getting in the way 
then come work with me. 

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We'll have six months of 
one-on-one coaching and it all 

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starts by. 
Going to my website, 

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chemicalguys.com coaching and 
joining my waitlist. 

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Talk to you soon.