1 00:00:04,660 --> 00:00:07,960 Welcome to the New Manager Podcast. I'm 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:16,520 your host, Kim Nicol. Hello and welcome. I'm 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,320 glad you're here and I hope you're doing well. 4 00:00:18,780 --> 00:00:19,980 You've tuned in to the New 5 00:00:19,980 --> 00:00:23,880 Manager Podcast with me, your host, Kim Nicol, and 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,980 today we're talking about meetings. So 7 00:00:26,980 --> 00:00:30,440 if you look at your calendar and just had to 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,440 eyeball it, how much of your calendar this week is 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,140 taken up with meetings? It's 10 00:00:38,140 --> 00:00:43,560 so easy for them to proliferate and to start to 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,220 expand and take up a lot of time. This 12 00:00:46,220 --> 00:00:50,120 is something I hear from a lot of people is, I don't 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,260 know when to do my work because I have a lot of 14 00:00:52,260 --> 00:00:55,920 meetings. And when you rise into higher 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,600 levels of leadership and management, you will be 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,440 invited to even more meetings. So 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,620 part of your job will be to decide what meetings do 18 00:01:04,620 --> 00:01:08,740 I attend, which do I delegate, or which ones do 19 00:01:08,740 --> 00:01:12,720 I simply choose to get the, you know, maybe the 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,760 notes from after and not necessarily being there in 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,820 person yourself. And also because you will be 22 00:01:19,820 --> 00:01:23,580 running your meetings, you want to be mindful and 23 00:01:23,580 --> 00:01:27,280 thoughtful about how you do that. So 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,860 for today, I want to give you a simple way to 25 00:01:31,860 --> 00:01:35,500 approach your meeting schedule and how to make 26 00:01:35,500 --> 00:01:38,920 them better. The basic idea is you want to 27 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,940 reevaluate how you do your meetings. And 28 00:01:41,940 --> 00:01:45,080 we're going to do this using a structure you've 29 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,500 probably encountered someplace else, but maybe 30 00:01:47,500 --> 00:01:51,620 not applied to this particular context. And 31 00:01:51,620 --> 00:01:54,700 as an aside, I kind of love that approach, because 32 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:59,060 if you can simply find a new use case for something 33 00:01:59,060 --> 00:02:02,900 that is already familiar to you, then you are more 34 00:02:02,900 --> 00:02:08,520 likely to actually use that tool to make things better. 35 00:02:08,940 --> 00:02:11,560 And that's why we're here. So 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,020 here's the breakdown of this framework that we're 37 00:02:15,020 --> 00:02:17,720 going to use. The basic idea is you want to 38 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,100 reevaluate your meetings. When 39 00:02:20,100 --> 00:02:23,300 you look at the week, look at all of the meetings on 40 00:02:23,300 --> 00:02:26,440 your calendar, and then you're going to run them 41 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,780 through this series of questions. The 42 00:02:29,780 --> 00:02:35,460 basic framework is who, what, when, where, why, and 43 00:02:35,460 --> 00:02:38,180 how. Let's look at each one of these 44 00:02:38,180 --> 00:02:41,200 on its own. So look at a first meeting 45 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,180 and ask yourself, okay, who, who needs to be 46 00:02:44,180 --> 00:02:46,600 there? Are the right people in this 47 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,940 meeting? Are there too many people in 48 00:02:49,940 --> 00:02:52,180 this meeting? You can even ask this of 49 00:02:52,180 --> 00:02:54,780 yourself. If you have agreed to attend 50 00:02:54,780 --> 00:02:58,800 a meeting, ask yourself, do I really need to be here? 51 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,760 Does it make sense that who is 52 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,100 in the room includes me? Because 53 00:03:04,100 --> 00:03:07,500 some days the answer might be no, when you weigh your 54 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:10,440 other priorities. So that first one is who. 55 00:03:11,340 --> 00:03:13,380 Number two, ask yourself, what, 56 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:15,780 what are we talking about? What 57 00:03:15,780 --> 00:03:18,540 are we doing? What is the point? You 58 00:03:18,540 --> 00:03:20,540 know, this starts to point us towards what is the 59 00:03:20,540 --> 00:03:22,940 desired outcome of this meeting. It 60 00:03:22,940 --> 00:03:26,700 can be easy for meetings to just happen and develop 61 00:03:26,700 --> 00:03:30,280 an inertia, where they simply continue out of 62 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,400 momentum and habit. It's good to pause and ask, 63 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,700 wait, what are we talking about? What 64 00:03:37,700 --> 00:03:41,000 are we intending to accomplish here? When 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,940 you ask the question, what, it may prompt you to 66 00:03:44,940 --> 00:03:49,520 either revisit what is the overall goal or the desired 67 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,760 outcome for that meeting. It 68 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,800 might prompt you to think about agendas. Do 69 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,640 we know why we're going to meet and what the purpose 70 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,460 of this meeting is? It also allows you to pause 71 00:04:01,460 --> 00:04:04,720 and say, well, when we started to have this 72 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,120 regular meeting, it was for these reasons, are those 73 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:14,100 reasons still valid? Or is it time to adjust or 74 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:17,060 retire or change something? So 75 00:04:17,060 --> 00:04:19,600 taking that moment to ask, what are we talking about 76 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,480 here? What are we doing? What 77 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,160 is the point? Can reveal potential 78 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,120 opportunities to make changes. Next, 79 00:04:28,340 --> 00:04:32,640 ask yourself, when, when is this meeting happening? What 80 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,400 is the time? What is the duration? When 81 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,580 you ask yourself the when question, consider it 82 00:04:40,580 --> 00:04:43,200 against who is going to be there. And 83 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,200 if you have folks who are joining from different time 84 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,000 zones, this is also a really great time to 85 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,780 reevaluate. Does the time of this meeting 86 00:04:51,780 --> 00:04:56,460 land in an equitable way across all the participants, 87 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,380 schedules, and calendars? We simply want to be mindful 88 00:05:00,380 --> 00:05:03,120 of the decisions that we're making and think about the 89 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,980 effect that they will have on other people. When 90 00:05:06,980 --> 00:05:09,820 you ask the question of when is this meeting and 91 00:05:09,820 --> 00:05:12,300 you're thinking about the timing of it, you also 92 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:15,060 want to consider the duration. I'm 93 00:05:15,060 --> 00:05:19,420 a huge fan of creating meetings that don't land 94 00:05:19,420 --> 00:05:23,180 exactly on the half or on the hour. Because 95 00:05:23,180 --> 00:05:27,020 if you build in a little bit of buffer time, that 96 00:05:27,020 --> 00:05:32,780 has a positive cumulative effect for you and for 97 00:05:32,780 --> 00:05:37,180 everyone else. Because as a human, we are also 98 00:05:37,180 --> 00:05:41,480 context switching from one conversation to another, 99 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,820 from one task to another. And 100 00:05:44,820 --> 00:05:49,300 that takes energy. It can be difficult to just 101 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:53,860 flip a switch from one meeting or one context to 102 00:05:53,860 --> 00:05:56,500 another meeting or another context. And 103 00:05:56,500 --> 00:05:59,060 by building in a little bit of buffer, even if 104 00:05:59,060 --> 00:06:02,720 it's only 10 minutes, even if it's only five, if you 105 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,920 really honor that five minute buffer, by building 106 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,120 in a breathing room, what that means is everyone has 107 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,880 to show up a little bit more prepared, a little bit 108 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,220 more focused. We're going to meet for 45 109 00:06:16,220 --> 00:06:19,960 minutes instead of 60, or we're going to meet for 25 110 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,340 minutes instead of 30. If we honor that, then that 111 00:06:24,340 --> 00:06:27,560 means we have a bit of space in between, which 112 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,940 means that next meetings can start on time, which 113 00:06:30,940 --> 00:06:34,500 means that there's room to stretch, get a glass of 114 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:38,780 water, get a quick bite to eat, go to the bathroom. 115 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,380 Like you have time built in for 116 00:06:41,380 --> 00:06:44,060 all of the human stuff. And 117 00:06:44,060 --> 00:06:47,840 to also take a moment to perhaps jot down any notes 118 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:51,300 and get it out of your head and onto paper. So 119 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:54,480 that when you go to the next conversation or task, 120 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,900 you have that bit of break. So 121 00:06:57,900 --> 00:07:00,540 your mind can kind of catch up with your body 122 00:07:00,540 --> 00:07:02,920 and it's not like your body is in the next 123 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,900 meeting, but your mind is still finishing the 124 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:07,400 conversation that you just came out of. It 125 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,980 can be a better use of everyone's attention and 126 00:07:10,980 --> 00:07:15,540 time when you build in these little micro breaks, 127 00:07:15,860 --> 00:07:18,380 these bits of breathing room. All 128 00:07:18,380 --> 00:07:21,820 of that, that question around what time do we 129 00:07:21,820 --> 00:07:24,360 meet and what's the duration, that comes into 130 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,640 the when question. Next, we go to where. Where 131 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,200 is this meeting happening? Is 132 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,180 it happening online? Is it video? Is 133 00:07:33,180 --> 00:07:36,160 it audio only? Are we meeting in person? 134 00:07:36,780 --> 00:07:39,340 Sometimes we want to intentionally 135 00:07:39,340 --> 00:07:45,300 change where we meet because it has a different 136 00:07:45,300 --> 00:07:47,640 effect. You might be thinking about 137 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,120 this in terms of having a team off site or simply or 138 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,380 in some cases now it's a team on site where instead 139 00:07:55,380 --> 00:07:59,640 of everybody being remote, now we decide, okay, for 140 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,840 today, for this quarter, we want to gather everyone 141 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,600 under the same roof so that we're having a 142 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,320 conversation without the screens and that might 143 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,540 create a different kind of experience. So 144 00:08:12,540 --> 00:08:15,960 be mindful to ask, where is this meeting happening? 145 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:17,920 You know, you can also do 146 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,700 walking meetings. So you might say with your 147 00:08:20,700 --> 00:08:23,080 one on one, hey, would you like to go for a walk? 148 00:08:23,420 --> 00:08:24,860 It's a really nice day. Maybe 149 00:08:24,860 --> 00:08:27,560 we can do this meeting on our feet while we're going 150 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,460 for a walk instead of sitting in a conference 151 00:08:30,460 --> 00:08:33,140 room. Or even if you're doing it 152 00:08:33,140 --> 00:08:36,460 remotely, it might be a walking meeting that's audio 153 00:08:36,460 --> 00:08:40,820 only and you and your person can be in your own 154 00:08:40,820 --> 00:08:44,020 places with a headset on going for a walk and 155 00:08:44,020 --> 00:08:47,700 having that conversation. I found for myself, my brain 156 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:51,300 works better when I remember to take care of 157 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:53,800 my body. So if I go for a walk, my 158 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,580 brain works better. If I have a glass of water, 159 00:08:56,900 --> 00:08:59,580 my brain works better. It's just, you know, it's 160 00:08:59,580 --> 00:09:01,800 sometimes easy to forget when we're doing a lot of 161 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,860 thinking work, but actually our brain works better and 162 00:09:04,860 --> 00:09:09,420 we can discharge some of the accumulated stress or 163 00:09:09,420 --> 00:09:12,900 anxiety or just, you know, activity that kind of 164 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:16,400 builds up in the body when we go for a walk, take 165 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,800 care of our body along the way. That 166 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,800 comes up when we ask, where is this meeting going 167 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,440 to happen? And then we get to why. Why 168 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,280 are we having this meeting again? It 169 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,540 gets us to ask, what is the desired outcome or what 170 00:09:31,540 --> 00:09:34,480 does success look like? When 171 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,040 you are having your one -on -ones, the why question 172 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:43,020 might change over time because one, one -on -one 173 00:09:43,020 --> 00:09:46,580 might be about having a career conversation. Why 174 00:09:46,580 --> 00:09:49,200 are we having this one -on -one this month? It's 175 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,660 because we need to talk about career plans, career 176 00:09:51,660 --> 00:09:55,080 progression, or maybe we're here to talk about changes 177 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,260 that are happening and we need to make sure we're on 178 00:09:57,260 --> 00:10:00,280 the same page. Maybe the why for this coming 179 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,320 meeting is to talk about performance reviews or a 180 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,640 performance issue, but even though you're having this 181 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,040 regular meeting, the undercurrent of why, what 182 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,280 is the focus of this particular meeting, it might 183 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,080 change over time. What I find is that sometimes 184 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,680 when we have recurring meetings, we forget to 185 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:24,900 pause and reevaluate what is it that we want to 186 00:10:24,900 --> 00:10:28,900 accomplish here. We can get into a ret where 187 00:10:28,900 --> 00:10:31,500 it feels like we're just doing the same status 188 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:35,640 updates and it doesn't feel that connected or engaged. 189 00:10:36,340 --> 00:10:38,300 Taking that moment to pause and 190 00:10:38,300 --> 00:10:41,780 reflect, why are we doing this? What 191 00:10:41,780 --> 00:10:47,220 is the desired outcome of this meeting? Checking 192 00:10:47,220 --> 00:10:50,440 in every month, every quarter to see what, if 193 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,820 anything, has changed. What does success look like? You 194 00:10:55,820 --> 00:10:59,580 can also think about this when you are thinking of 195 00:10:59,580 --> 00:11:03,660 your meetings with your manager for your one -on 196 00:11:03,660 --> 00:11:07,240 -ones. If your manager is not setting 197 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,020 the tone and there's lots of reasons why that might 198 00:11:10,020 --> 00:11:14,140 be, you can kind of help out by influencing or 199 00:11:14,140 --> 00:11:17,520 taking the lead and letting your manager know, hey, for 200 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,160 our upcoming one -on -one, here are the things that I 201 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,920 would like for us to go over or to talk about. 202 00:11:23,479 --> 00:11:25,960 Sometimes when we simply reevaluate 203 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,140 how we are structuring and doing a meeting, when we 204 00:11:30,140 --> 00:11:32,980 realize, oh, what we're trying to accomplish is 205 00:11:32,980 --> 00:11:36,640 this. Therefore, let us change the way that 206 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,660 we structure this meeting. It 207 00:11:38,660 --> 00:11:41,960 can have a really positive outcome. So 208 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,340 that's the why. And that kind of brings us 209 00:11:44,340 --> 00:11:47,500 into that final question, which is the how. How 210 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:49,740 are we doing this meeting? This 211 00:11:49,740 --> 00:11:52,760 is about structure. How is the meeting structured? 212 00:11:53,220 --> 00:11:55,180 Do we start with a check -in? 213 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:56,880 Do we save the check -in for 214 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,820 the end and do the strategic conversation up 215 00:11:59,820 --> 00:12:02,860 front? How will it work? Who's 216 00:12:02,860 --> 00:12:05,740 running the meeting? When you're the manager and 217 00:12:05,740 --> 00:12:07,680 you're planning team meetings or group meetings 218 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:10,520 for your team, there are times when you might 219 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,460 delegate some of the facilitation to somebody 220 00:12:14,460 --> 00:12:16,860 else. It might be part of their 221 00:12:16,860 --> 00:12:20,380 career and professional development, the public 222 00:12:20,380 --> 00:12:24,540 speaking, the facilitation, or it simply might be a 223 00:12:24,540 --> 00:12:29,880 necessary delegation if you are really heads down 224 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,700 working on something else. And 225 00:12:31,700 --> 00:12:36,300 you can think of this as tapping into the brilliance 226 00:12:36,300 --> 00:12:40,620 and the ability of your team and helping people all 227 00:12:40,620 --> 00:12:43,760 come together. So thinking about how will it 228 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,080 work, how will this meeting go? With 229 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,260 more and more AI tools, I've seen a lot of folks 230 00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:55,560 who are also now using AI for summaries of meetings. 231 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,920 And you can have an AI tool 232 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,120 capture the summary of the meeting, capture any next 233 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,360 steps. It's always a good idea to 234 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,540 review those notes because they're not 100 % accurate. 235 00:13:07,900 --> 00:13:09,980 But you might think about, is 236 00:13:09,980 --> 00:13:15,140 there a way that will make it easier for everyone to 237 00:13:15,140 --> 00:13:18,880 be on the same page and to have a point of 238 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,600 reference to go back to? And 239 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,360 so maybe now you start experimenting with different 240 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:29,780 AI enabled meeting tools to help you have a more 241 00:13:29,780 --> 00:13:34,260 effective meeting. The main thing is to simply be 242 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:36,860 mindful that you're not going through the motions, 243 00:13:36,860 --> 00:13:41,200 running from meeting to meeting without realizing 244 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:46,820 you actually have a lot of influence about which 245 00:13:46,820 --> 00:13:52,060 meetings you attend, which meetings you don't, and how 246 00:13:52,060 --> 00:13:56,100 the meetings that you do attend are organized and 247 00:13:56,100 --> 00:14:00,800 how they work. It's important to pause to do a 248 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,640 bit of an inventory. I would recommend you do this 249 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,300 every quarter because especially depending on the 250 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:12,000 organization that you're in, it's very common for 251 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,360 organizations to have different seasonal 252 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,300 activities. So end of year might be the 253 00:14:19,300 --> 00:14:22,920 busy season for your organization or maybe end 254 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,120 of year is the quiet season. But 255 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:30,400 really understanding that every season of the work 256 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,520 of the organization, there's a little bit of an ebb 257 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,960 and a flow. There's a cadence. It 258 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,020 also might be around the holiday season. So 259 00:14:40,020 --> 00:14:42,720 it might be that as you're coming into the summer and 260 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,420 you know that folks on your team will be taking 261 00:14:45,420 --> 00:14:48,920 vacation or you will be planning to take vacation, 262 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,120 thinking about how will this affect our meetings 263 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,180 and maybe we make some changes to accommodate or 264 00:14:56,180 --> 00:15:00,340 to simply reflect how we can best use our time. 265 00:15:01,060 --> 00:15:03,500 When you do this, you will feel 266 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:07,800 like you're having a little bit more control over your 267 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,620 calendar. Be mindful of when you feel 268 00:15:11,620 --> 00:15:15,460 uncomfortable, specifically in the sense of, I don't 269 00:15:15,460 --> 00:15:18,180 know if I can decline this meeting. I 270 00:15:18,180 --> 00:15:21,180 feel like I should go to every meeting I'm invited 271 00:15:21,180 --> 00:15:23,400 to. You shouldn't actually. You 272 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,140 should expect to be invited to more meetings than you 273 00:15:26,140 --> 00:15:28,060 will be able to attend. And 274 00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:32,440 part of your work will be deciding what do you say 275 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:38,700 yes to and what do you kindly decline. I 276 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:41,520 read something on LinkedIn recently and I'll see if I 277 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,880 can find the original source. But 278 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,780 it was this person who was posting this concept of 279 00:15:48,780 --> 00:15:52,940 most people organize their week based on the meetings 280 00:15:52,940 --> 00:15:57,120 that they have rather than the work that they have 281 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,480 and the priorities. And the meetings should never 282 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,720 drive the work. It should be the reverse. So 283 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,740 when you look at your calendar, if you say I've 284 00:16:06,740 --> 00:16:09,340 got all these meetings, you want to ask, well, do 285 00:16:09,340 --> 00:16:14,100 these line up with my priorities this week? And 286 00:16:14,100 --> 00:16:17,440 if not, then change it. Don't 287 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,420 run your week based on the meeting invites in your 288 00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:23,880 calendar. And again, I'll see if I can 289 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,340 find where I read that because I thought it was a 290 00:16:26,340 --> 00:16:29,000 really, a really great point. So 291 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,240 today it's all about meetings, how to make them 292 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,260 better, maybe question what's on your calendar and 293 00:16:36,260 --> 00:16:38,760 why. And again, run this simple 294 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:45,040 framework, who, what, when, where, why, and how. And 295 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,440 use it to begin to look with new eyes at what you 296 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,900 have on your calendar, how the meetings work, and then 297 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:57,120 make some small adjustments to make them better. That's 298 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,380 what I had to share with you today. Take 299 00:16:59,380 --> 00:17:01,500 it, use it. I hope you have a great day 300 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:04,660 at work. Thank you for listening. And 301 00:17:04,660 --> 00:17:07,300 I will talk to you again next time.