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Welcome to the new manager 
podcast. 

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I'm your host, Kim nickel. 
Hello and welcome. 

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I'm glad you're here. 
I hope you're doing well. 

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And today, we're talking about 
how to advocate for yourself at 

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work. 
This is an important skill that 

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is sometimes quite difficult to 
learn how to do. 

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Because early in your career, so
much of the mindset is I have to

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figure this out on my own. 
I have to do this on my own. 

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I can't ask for help because 
there isn't help or because I 

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don't want to come across as 
not. 

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Not being able to do this on my 
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So, one of the very first 
hurdles to learning the skill is

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first simply recognizing it as a
skill and as something that is 

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useful, not just Just for you 
but in your role as a leader and

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a manager sometimes you will 
need to Advocate on behalf of 

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your team of some you know 
someone to get promoted that is 

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on your team that they need your
support for there are different 

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times in the course of your 
career when having the skill of 

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advocacy is actually quite 
important, but we often don't 

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acknowledge that or even think 
about it earlier in our career. 

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So Let's start with just 
understanding what I mean. 

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When I say to advocate. 
I think about it and its most 

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simple terms like this to 
Advocate is to speak up for the 

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benefit of someone. 
To speak up for the benefit of 

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someone, that someone can be. 
You advocating for yourself, it 

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can be advocating for the 
client. 

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Sometimes, in a company, you'll 
hear this, as you know, what is 

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the voice of the client? 
What is the client need? 

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What is the, what is the? 
What is the clients perspective 

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here? 
It can also be speaking up on 

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behalf of your team and maybe 
you need more resources, maybe 

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you need to hire more people, 
maybe you need to Advocate for a

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different timeline or you need 
to advocate for why, one project

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should be the priority as 
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But you're speaking up for the 
benefit of someone sometimes, 

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it's easier to speak up for the 
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Because you're less attached and
you feel more committed to using

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your voice to speak up for them.
It can be sometimes difficult to

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speak up for yourself, 
especially if you have any kind 

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of self value, hesitancy, 
anything call, you know, I 

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don't, I don't know if I really 
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I don't know if I'm good enough.
If you've got your imposter, you

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know, voice flaring up, it can 
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we didn't tend to be more 
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personally when it's about us. 
So, you know, today we're 

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talking specifically about you 
because that's where we want to 

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start and then realizing that 
this has broader applications at

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work. 
First, I want us to get some 

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clarity about why we don't 
advocate for ourselves. 

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One of the first reasons why we 
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we have a voice inside our head.
That says what's the point 

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What's the point in speaking up?
And that's the voice that says, 

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you know, there's a part of you 
that just doesn't believe it's 

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available. 
It doesn't believe that you'll 

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get it. 
It's anticipating the 

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uselessness of asking. 
It's almost a little bit of a 

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learned helplessness. 
Like if you've learned in the 

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past that you're not listened to
that, you're not believed that 

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others. 
Don't prioritize or value your 

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perspectives or request. 
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You've internalized this belief 
and this thought was the point 

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of asking for something, I'm 
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it's not available. 
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Another one is this thought of 
hey I'm good. 

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I can do it on my own and I've 
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This is also that voice of I can
do it that turns into over 

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self-reliance. 
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to this 2. 
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be happy, just be happy with 
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Don't ask for more, it would be 
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else or to ask for something 
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So when you believe that there 
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available for you or when you 
don't know what to ask for, 

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because you've never really 
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Doubt what could make this 
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What could make this more 
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You haven't thought about what 
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So the default thought is I'm 
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I can do it on my own. 
And when I was teaching at 

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General Assembly, this was 
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often I started teaching in 
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students did, the research, 
found the clue. 

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Class signed up for it in their 
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own money and they would take 
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It was a 90-minute class at the 
time because they knew they 

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wanted to get better at managing
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though they didn't manage 
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Now that was the next level that
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wanted to be prepared. 
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advance so they could Have more 
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themselves and saying, yeah, 
here's why I'm ready for this 

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next level job, their mindset 
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self-reliance, I'll figure this 
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using their own time, and their 
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know, research to then, come to 
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benefit their company their 
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occurred to them. 
Them that they could ask for the

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cost of the workshop to be 
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And it was so interesting 
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would tell my students, I'd say 
if you're here kind of as a 

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secret because you haven't told 
anyone because you're afraid of 

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what people will think, if you 
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offer you a different 
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Like let me offer you. 
The perspective that the fact 

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you're here means that You take 
initiative that you are stepping

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into a leadership role that you 
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responsibility for your 
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These are good things you want 
to Signal this to your manager 

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and tell them that you're doing 
this and you want to ask what's 

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available for reimbursing. 
You for the cost of being here, 

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we'll talk more about that later
but it when I realized that so 

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many of My students it was just 
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They hadn't realized yet that 
it's okay to ask for a benefit 

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on behalf of yourself. 
It just it was just like a room 

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in the house of their mind that 
had not yet been illuminated, 

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they didn't know it was there. 
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of I know that I can ask for 
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The reason why we don't is 
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don't know how there's a fear of
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If I asked in the wrong way 
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avoid confrontation or 
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You might have a lack of 
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You just don't have a mental map
for how to make the ask and what

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all of these thoughts have in 
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What's the point? 
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I don't, I don't need help or I 
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myself. 
When we use those as reasons to 

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not speak up, we're really doing
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And the internal logic of that 
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if I don't ask then they won't 
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won't feel disappointed, I won't
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risk the relationship. 
You know, if I make an ask and 

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they think that I'm somehow not 
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extra help, like it's just a way
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ends up happening is that you 
cut yourself off from growth 

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because it requires growth to 
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skill of making the ask and it 
cuts you off from all of these 

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other resources, that could be 
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If only you spoke up on behalf 
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see this play out at work is 
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manager and you have someone on 
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promotion, you will need to 
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promoted and sometimes it 
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Because other people managers 
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person to be promoted into that 
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So you might have Have 10 people
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There may only be three spots 
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available. 
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make the case to advocate for 
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why they are the ones who should
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Now, the good news about all of 
this is that it really is the 

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way that you're thinking that 
holds you back from advocacy 

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from advocating. 
For yourself for advocating for 

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others. 
It's really just the way that 

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you're seeing the landscape and 
the way that you're thinking 

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about it. 
So I want to offer you now, some

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other ways to think about this, 
to make it easier to step up and

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use your voice for the benefit 
of yourself or for somebody 

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else. 
Here are some ways to think 

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about it. 
Remember that you're not a 

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little kid asking for something 
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What you're actually doing is, 
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you're taking initiative to 
improve and you're coming with a

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solution. 
So, especially in the context of

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professional development. 
When you go to your manager and 

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say, hey I found a coach, I want
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help me with these things. 
What you're doing is you're not 

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a little kid saying hey you 
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What you're doing is you're 
saying, hey, I'm taking control 

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of my professional development. 
I found a solution. 

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How do we make this happen? 
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What's available? 
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because for most of our life, 
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arrive on the planet and where 
these tiny infants and we grow 

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into children, and for all of 
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of our experience in making a 
request, Next is from a position

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where it feels like we have much
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And we're trying to learn like, 
how do I ask for things in the 

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way that I am most likely to get
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So that pattern and that pattern
of thinking, you have a lot more

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experience with that. 
So it makes a lot of sense. 

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If you feel that little kid part
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start thinking about, how am I 
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So just remember you're not 
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child or a little kid. 
You're really showing up as a 

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partner. 
You're demonstrating initiative 

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and you're bringing a solution. 
These are good things. 

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Here's another thought, I'm 
taking responsibility for my 

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professional development. 
So my manager doesn't have to 

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think about it from the 
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When you come to a conversation 
with them and you say, hey I 

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have identified some 
professional development that I 

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want your manager does not have 
to think about what professional

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development does. 
This person need, they don't 

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necessarily have the time and 
they mate might not know, 

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because part of what drives your
professional development is what

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you want, where you want to 
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Ambition and desire is. 
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more presenting, if you want to 
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your industry events. 
If you want to step into higher 

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levels of mentoring and 
Leadership, you might want for 

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example to improve your public 
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Your manager may not understand 
that that's something that you 

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want, or that? 
That's something you feel 

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insecure about you. 
Ask for that. 

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You can initiate that 
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thinking about your professional
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your manager does not have to do
all of that work to figure out 

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what is the next step for you. 
They probably don't know. 

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They might not have the time, I 
know that when I was a people 

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manager I had over a dozen 
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I did not know what they all 
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So, if someone came to me and 
said, hey, there's a conference,

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I want to go to there's a A 
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I want to take that was a much 
easier conversation to have been

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if I could support them, I was 
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So I would add especially in a 
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A lot of organizations are 
understanding that people want 

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and need more support in 
professional development and how

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to handle change and how to 
manage remote teams simply and 

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how You know how to confront and
deal with all of the challenges 

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that we're facing as people and 
if it makes you happy and keeps 

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you effective, then that is a 
great deal for them and if you 

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initiate that conversation even 
better, okay. 

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Here's another thought that I 
want to offer you about how to 

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get yourself to a place where 
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why. 
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more comfortable advocating for 
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Because you realize, I'm not 
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Just for me when I get better at
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this way, this will be 
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organization. 
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assembly in 2017 or 2018. 
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manager in a new organization. 
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established in the fundamentals 
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this new, this new role. 
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photos of the Whiteboard work 
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I do a lot of back in the day 
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workshops in person, we would do
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And I talked to her, this is now
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now a VP in her organization. 
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development that she did four or
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of this time because she is made
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So when you think about, why am 
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It's because it's good, not just
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to your manager, to your team, 
to the organization as a whole 

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to the clients that you serve to
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Think about it in those terms as
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Makes the conversation a lot 
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One more idea, there may already
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professional development, and if
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When budget is allocated, for a 
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what is our professional 
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Look like right now I have found
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have found a workshop. 
I want to take I have found a 

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course. 
I would like to take. 

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Do we have budget for that? 
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out. 
They might be thrilled that you 

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have brought them the perfect 
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You don't know that they might 
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coming to them with this asked 
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as well. 
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little bit, but I'm going to say
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So when you develop your skills 
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become better because you've 
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professional development, The 
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amount of money to do the work 
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skilled, when you level up your 
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effective, they're paying you 
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getting a more skilled. 
You like, you are becoming a 

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more or effective. 
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So, it plays out in their favor 
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terms as well. 
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want to offer is the point of 
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about being perfect. 
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continuous growth. 
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If you are a perfectionist, if 
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are perceived, and your thought 
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mean. 
I am not good enough. 

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that is not a helpful thought 

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and I That I argue that is that 
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want to take on. 
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perspective like you're taking 
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this perspective, which is as 
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your responsibility, it is all 
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Awareness of, where do you need 
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And what skills do you need now,
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awareness of the skills. 
You need may change as the stage

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of your company changes as the 
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was working in a high-growth 
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stepping into a role as a people
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growing. 
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and now she had a team of three,
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hiring four or five more. 
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She realized, hey I've never 
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This is something I want to 
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learn how to get good at it, now
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will set me up to be better and 
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more and more people on this 
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But up until this point in her 
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skill, set, like she did now. 
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advocating for yourself around 
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budget, or resources for that. 
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This is a positive signal. 
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self-awareness, you're taking 
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continuous growth of yourself 
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So once you get into a mindset 
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yeah I can see why it makes a 
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myself and I want to there's now
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then I want us to think a little
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communicate this. 
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things to think about. 
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them to say yes. 
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ahead of time and do the 
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to be beneficial also think 
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concerns are that your boss or 
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the approval of what are the 
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time. 
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the money. 
If this is a person who is in 

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charge of budget, who In charge 
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want to know how much is this 
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it? 
This is where it's really 

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helpful to have thought through 
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This is what it costs. 
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it in. 
Here's why or here's why? 

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Out of all of the other options.
This is the most cost-effective 

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one and being able to explain 
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better at this, this will make 
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That is soon as people get 
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up to speed quickly which saves 
US money and get them active and

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contributing in a much faster 
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So thinking through the 
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make it easy for them to say yes
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think about around 
communicating. 

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This is make it part of your 
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So, whenever your review cycle 
is in the course of Year include

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your professional development as
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You can also do this seasonally 
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quarter or through a season, you
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What are the skills? 
I'm noticing, I really want to 

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develop. 
What do I want to level up in? 

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Where do I need to improve 
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Not because you're being hard on
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realizing. 
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I have some new awareness. 
I want to get better. 

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At having difficult 
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a way to get better at that 
because I know that will help 

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me. 
Oh, I need to get better at 

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having confidence when I'm 
presenting to high level folks 

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on the team, right? 
Like thinking through what is it

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that you want to develop and 
start making that? 

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A regular part of your 
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It signals your desire for 
growth. 

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It demonstrates self-awareness, 
and Leadership. 

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It shows that you're thinking 
strategically Are all good 

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things. 
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about this, is to choose an area
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each stage. 
So if you think about what stage

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you're at, in your career, you 
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what is the area of development 
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It might be technical, it might 
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That might be around 
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But thinking in those terms, 
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what you want and why? 
And I will tell you also that 

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the students that I've coached 
on this who have successfully 

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had their companies pay for 
their either pay for their 

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coaching with me or paid for the
workshop. 

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They took those years ago, this 
was true of clients and students

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who worked in small companies 
that did not yet have formal. 

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Policies around professional 
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And also, for companies that did
have allocated learning stipends

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for the year. 
So I'm saying this, because if 

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you're thinking to yourself, 
well that must be nice for big 

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companies with big budgets, but 
I work for a small company and 

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we don't even have an HR person.
Alright, you might be in a 

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really early stage organization 
and what is so cool is that when

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you are the person who initiates
this conversation That is also 

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not good for you. 
That is good for your whole 

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company with one of my students,
she said yeah, I work for this. 

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It's, you know, high-growth 
startup and we don't even have a

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policy on professional 
development and I said, well, it

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sounds like you're the one who's
going to initiate that 

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conversation and she thought, 
oh, I guess I am. 

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And what's amazing is that she 
did she brought this up to the 

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CEO. 
She said, okay, look, we're now 

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at the stage of growth I'm 
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Here's how I propose. 
We go about addressing it and 

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that conversation not only did 
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cost of this program that she 
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the conversation to its time. 
Now in our company's growth to 

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think about what is our policy 
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And as a Result. 
They ended up deciding to Grant 

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a learning stipend of $1000 to 
every employee. 

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So in that case, her advocating 
for herself, turned into a 

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benefit that ended up affecting 
everyone in the company and that

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also initiated a conversation of
higher-level thinking around. 

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We're at the stage now. 
Arts time for us to put 

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something like this into place. 
So be not discouraged if you 

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think it's doesn't apply to you,
I don't care what organization 

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you're in but this is a 
conversation that you can bring 

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and you can initiate positive 
outcomes in ways you might not 

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even realize. 
So here's a structure for what 

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it might sound like to ask. 
I'll read it through once and 

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then I'll point out the three 
key elements within this 

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framework. 
So the conversation might sound 

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like this, I found a coach, I 
want to work on with my 

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leadership and people management
skills. 

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I think it will help me to give 
more specific and timely 

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feedback and lead the team 
through the stage of growth, 

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especially given the hiring that
we're anticipating, and all of 

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the change that's happening with
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What's a professional budget 
development? 

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Look like right. 
Now what it covers summer, all 

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of the cost? 
So here's what was included in 

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that. 
I found a coach. 

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I want to work with work with on
this specific skill. 

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So identify the skill. 
The thing it is that you want to

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get better at, whether its 
leadership, skills, speaking 

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skills, communication skills, 
delegation skills. 

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I found someone or I found a 
resource that I want to work 

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with on this skill. 
I think it will help me get this

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result. 
What is that? 

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Outcome that you want to gain 
from this professional 

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development especially given the
situational relevance. 

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If you can connect your request 
with situational relevance, in 

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other words, why? 
Now, how come now is why you're 

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looking for this? 
How does this help the 

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organization? 
Now, how does this help? 

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Up, you be more effective. 
Now, identify the situational 

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relevance and when you pray, 
like come to the conversation 

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with that, this is the skill, I 
want, this is the result or the 

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outcome, it will get me. 
This is the situational 

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relevance for y. 
Now, this is important. 

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That makes it a lot easier for 
your manager to say, yes, They 

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also want you to succeed, they 
want your organization to 

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succeed. 
They want things to happen in a 

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more effective and easy way. 
So when you lead with that and 

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then you ask what is our 
professional development budget?

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Look like and then asking like 
what our budget cover some or 

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all of the cost because remember
you can make the ask and even if

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they say, well, we can't cover 
all of that, but we can cover 

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half of that, or we can Cover 
some of that that is still a 

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win. 
So, the final thoughts on this 

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topic, I want to share with you 
our, as you're thinking about 

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advocacy, and how to use your 
voice to speak up on behalf of 

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yourself and others, let it be 
easy. 

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Identify? 
What is the thought that's 

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holding you back and see if you 
can find an alternative thought 

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that you can connect with, that 
makes it Easier for you to move 

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forward. 
Remember that? 

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This is a skill advocacy. 
Speaking up making a request, 

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this is a skill and that means 
that you will improve with 

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practice. 
You will get more comfortable, 

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and confident, and this is a 
good thing. 

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So it's okay, if it feels 
awkward at first. 

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It's worth it to learn the skill
of advocacy because the lifetime

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value of advocating for yourself
and others is beyond measure. 

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And when you are willing to 
speak up for the benefit of 

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yourself and for others, you 
become a role model. 

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And that's what leaders do, lead
the way when you speak up, For 

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yourself and others and others. 
See you do this, you become a 

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role model who inspires them to 
do this as well. 

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So those are the thoughts I 
wanted to share with you today. 

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Do find something that you want 
to advocate for on behalf of 

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yourself or somebody else 
especially professional 

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development. 
There's never been a better time

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and there is no I've never been 
a greater need. 

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You don't have to do this alone.
All right. 

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That's what I have for you. 
I will talk to you again next 

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time when you're more effective 
at work, you're happier in your 

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life and when you're happier in 
your life you're more effective 

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at work. 
I can help go to my website. 

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Kim nickel.com and sign up for a
coaching consult, it can get 

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better.
