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Welcome to the new manager 
podcast. 

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I'm your host, Kim nickel. 
Hi and welcome to the podcast. 

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It's Kim and as I'm recording 
this, we have just transitioned 

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Seasons. 
It is now fall here in San 

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Francisco, and for my friends 
and my listeners in the southern

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hemisphere, it is now spring for
you. 

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And one of the reasons I 
mentioned that actually, there 

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are two and one is my online 
teaching schedule. 

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Jewel has now been updated and 
every month between now and the 

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end of the year. 
I have one, maybe, two classes 

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that I'm teaching through 
general assembly and they're 

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open to the public. 
One of the things that's been 

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really fun about the change to 
online teaching is that. 

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Now my students can join from 
anywhere in the world and it's 

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really been a treat to have you.
Join me for a live class to talk

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about what's going on in your 
life and your world as you are 

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managing people. 
So if you want to know more 

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about that go to my website Kim 
nickel.com and go to the new 

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managers Tab and you'll get some
links to see some of the classes

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that are coming up or you can 
just go directly to General 

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assembly's website and search 
for my name and it should bring 

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my class schedule up and then we
can talk about managing humans 

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and person. 
Okay. 

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So the other reason that I 
wanted to mention this change in

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season is because the theme for 
today is managing your energy 

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and that means a lot of 
different things. 

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I'll talk about some of them 
today and on one level even a 

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change in season, will create a 
different Feeling of energy for 

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you and by extension for the 
people around you for the people

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that you live with, for the 
people that you work with and we

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are a very Global Community. 
I know a lot of you work in 

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organizations and you have 
colleagues who are in different 

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time zones, being aware of what 
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energetic. 
Level becomes another lens, that

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will help. 
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help you to understand kind of 
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It's one of those invisible 
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the way we communicate. 
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with others and because it's 
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It's easy to overlook the impact
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So we're going to talk about it 
today, managing your energy and 

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also what I've been finding as I
do more coaching Being and more 

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one-on-ones with people is that 
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up coming back to this idea of 
being aware of your energy and 

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managing it. 
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relationships well either be 
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giving or energy to pleating And
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This is when you have a 
conversation with someone and 

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you feel so energized and you 
feel great or you have a 

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conversation with someone and 
you just feel exhausted, you 

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feel tired, you feel drained, 
even an on an another way to see

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this. 
How it works in your own life? 

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You get an email, you just see 
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the subject line is and you will
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In your body, either a sense of 
dread like, oh my gosh, I really

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don't. 
Need another email from this 

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person, or you might feel a 
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wonder what they have to share 
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We're a might be more of a 
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what's in here? 
So, number one, begin to notice.

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What are the ways that your 
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course of the day? 
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relationships. 
How different people. 

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Give you a bit of an intern 
energy boost, or end up 

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depleting you. 
This can also be with respect to

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different activities and tasks. 
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activities and tasks that you 
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It's the fun part. 
It's the thing that you really 

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good at you, feel energized, you
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because it satisfies. 
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And then there are some 
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really don't like that, you 
resist that when you see them on

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your calendar, you tend to 
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sense of dread if you go back 
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Wait, really. 
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I think it's episode 1, 
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perhaps and I talked about the 
two skills that you need to 

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manage humans. 
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self-awareness. 
So this awareness of your 

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energy, your experience, what it
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moving through your day. 
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this idea of self awareness 
because other people can't give 

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you this information. 
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need to pay attention to 
yourself because you are the 

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person having this experience, 
all of the data like you Are the

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person who has access to that, 
it's really hard to get it from 

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some external source. 
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ability to notice what is my 
energy doing becomes really 

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important because once you 
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affected, you can then make 
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That work with yourself and with
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So for example, if you know that
the top of your day is when your

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energy is best, you just 
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you get a lot of work done. 
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at the top of the day, then you 
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time to address head on the 
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That is challenging that you 
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say okay that is the time of my 
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calendar so no one can schedule.
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I'm going to do focused deep 
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I know that my energy will be in
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Awareness means that you can 
make more strategic choices that

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will support your ability to 
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Well, and get your work done. 
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lot is in relationships. 
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relationships at work, but with 
all of our relationships, so pay

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attention, and notice when you 
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friction with somebody at work, 
that's a really really 

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important. 
Thing to be observant of because

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when there is friction that can 
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communication tends to not go. 
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it's easy to misunderstand or 
misinterpret people, it's easy 

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for others to misinterpret us. 
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conflict at work, what that does
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interesting for most people, 
there's an element of heat, a 

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feeling of Like an active and 
outward moving energy that can 

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actually be very destructive and
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So you just you want to be aware
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And again, these are not bad 
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will have energy that goes up, 
it goes down, you will have 

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emotions. 
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conflict and frustration, as 
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are just flowing. 
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gentle with yourself, you are a 
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remember, this and embrace this,
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are managing yourself as well as
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I also want to point out that 
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is affected is also really 
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same amount of time in a day. 
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day and the way that we use our 
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things, the quality of our 
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energy. 
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and your attention is very 
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distracted. 
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It's going to be difficult to 
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you are clear about what you 
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So again if you have 15 minutes 
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are exhausted. 
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It's going to be really 
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that time. 
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But if you have energy, you are 
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attention, where your attention 

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is right here in the moment with
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you need to attend to, you can 
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with a very little bit of time. 
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lot about from my You didn't 
send my clients is that if you 

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are having a difficult 
relationship with somebody, 

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maybe it's a client or maybe 
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your organization or maybe it's 
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and because there is friction or
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when you are working, your 
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depleted, that might make you 
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you just don't have the energy 
to deal and it might also get in

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the way of all of the other 
tasks and activities that need 

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your attention. 
You think I just don't have the 

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energy to deal with this right 
now because this other thing, 

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this other relationship has 
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And so I'm not able to show up 
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resourceful and creative. 
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It's one of the most valuable 
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it's the one that you can 
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with, in order to keep it in its
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So manage your energy, and we've
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bit about relationships, so 
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What are the relationships that 
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your personal life? 
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and inspire you, or the people 
who make you feel safe and loved

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and accepted like, where is that
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Notice the people and the 
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are difficult that drain your 
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not so good, not your best self.
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eliminate those people, I mean, 
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them even though it's 
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related to them, they are part 
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bring you down. 
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this is a relationship that will
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me. 
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strategic and choosing so given 
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So how can I deal with this in a
way that is going to be have the

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best outcome for me? 
So that, then I can bring myself

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It might sound a little selfish 
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is but I really believe that you
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be aware of and to care for 
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who will and that includes 
becoming aware of your energy 

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caring about it. 
So that you can then bring the 

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best of who you are to your work
world and to the humans that you

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manage. 
My sense is that as we move into

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this last part of the Year, this
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It will continue to be a 
challenging time for a lot of 

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people, maybe for you but also 
for the people that you work 

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with and so it becomes important
want to tune into what your 

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energy is so that you can really
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This also gives you the 
perspective that the people that

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you work with their energy also 
fluctuates and sometimes, 

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they'll be really focused, 
they'll come in positive with a 

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sense of what's possible and how
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And sometimes you may perceive, 
you may sense that energy is 

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very low or that people are 
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Generally very sad or a feeling 
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I feel like we're still 
collectively hitting different 

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waves of grief with how this 
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I believe that being a manager 
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how you influence others. 
The greatest managers really 

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uplift and bring forward the 
best in other people, especially

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people who are different from 
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Right? 
Like a great manager is flexible

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can see the best bring out the 
best and really like bring 

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people together to do good work.
Work in a way, that wouldn't be 

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possible if you aren't in that 
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So there is this very human 
aspect to working with others to

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managing others and to really 
understanding that it is a 

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sacred thing that we do the way 
that we care for ourselves so 

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that we can show up and really 
create something good with the 

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people that we work with even 
when things are challenging, And

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uncertain energy will ebb and 
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That's totally normal. 
It's okay to not always be high 

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energy, super positive all the 
time being human and being a 

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great manager who can manage 
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that range for people and also 
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continue to move forward with 
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So self awareness, communication
managing your energy becoming 

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aware of, what are the 
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affect your energy respecting? 
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of how, well you use your time. 
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an energetic charged to it, 
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it's More of a weighted down 
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be aware to of any emotions that
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name the emotion in order to 
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perception will give you even 
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connect and to work well, with 
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And also, what I find is at this
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As we kind of leave Q3 and start
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And in light of the state of the
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my students and clients are also
doing this anyways and many have

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been doing this all year 
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What is it that they want to put
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their attention towards and 
sometimes Industries and what 

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I'm finding right in this year 
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Is are so affected in such big 
ways that you might be 

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re-evaluating is this industry, 
something I still want to be a 

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part of, or do I need to start 
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or is this company? 
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part of or should I maybe start 
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possible. 
What else is available for me? 

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This time of year is such a 
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reassess and to give yourself 
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I mean so much is challenging 
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there's so much resilience and 
there's so much collaboration 

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and so much community that I've 
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which really I mean really lifts
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for you too. 
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different kind of energy as You 
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What is it that your life is 
about and what are you moving 

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towards? 
And how does that fit with your 

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work? 
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your own self and your sense of 
purpose, and what matters to you

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into your life? 
Both your work life, with all of

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these other humans. 
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know the difference between our 
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professional world has really 
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than ever. 
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We are humans. 
We are trying to figure out and 

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navigate how to work together 
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circumstances. 
So be gentle with yourself. 

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Be gentle and bring Grace to 
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We get through this one moment 
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A time and more that you care 
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The better off. 
You will be both for yourself as

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well as for all of the people 
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And then that in turn ripples 
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All right, human, thank you so 
much for listening. 

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I am glad that you are here and 
feel free to reach out by me on 

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LinkedIn or send me a message. 
I would love to know more about 

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you and what is happening in 
your world as you manage humans.

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Thanks so much. 
Take care. 

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Do you want personal 
confidential help with your 

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situation? 
At work, I offer one-on-one 

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coaching and can help you 
overcome challenges reach your 

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goals and become a more 
effective leader to schedule a 

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consult. 
Go to my website, Kim nickel.com

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coaching and we'll schedule time
to talk about what's going on 

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with you and how I can help talk
to you soon.

