1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,600 Welcome to the new manager podcast. 2 00:00:07,700 --> 00:00:16,600 I'm your host, Kim nickel. Hello and welcome. 3 00:00:17,300 --> 00:00:21,500 I'm glad that you're here. And I hope you're doing well in 4 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:24,800 the last week. I've been having a lot of 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:32,100 conversations in my coaching, around this idea of ambition and 6 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:35,800 career growth. And there's one group that I 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,000 work with. They are a group of Physicians 8 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,500 and they were at Stages of their career and it was really 9 00:00:43,500 --> 00:00:47,600 interesting to hear them talk about how much they loved 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:53,100 medicine, how much they loved Patient Service how much the 11 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:57,500 industry had changed over the last couple of years and how 12 00:00:57,500 --> 00:01:00,000 weird it is. Now that patients can leave Yelp 13 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,000 reviews or that, you know, instead of doing the handwritten 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,500 notes. It's all electronic note taking 15 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,200 and I noticed the same conversation was coming up. 16 00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:15,900 Up with some of my one-on-one clients who are now at stages in 17 00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:19,300 their career, where they're thinking more about leadership 18 00:01:19,300 --> 00:01:23,100 and what that means to them and making decisions about, do I 19 00:01:23,100 --> 00:01:28,900 even want to manage people and I had this conversation with my 20 00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:31,700 boyfriend. I had asked him, you know, did 21 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:35,800 you ever want to be a manager? And he said no, and I thought 22 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,500 that was. So it was really interesting 23 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,500 because like my boyfriend is very ambitious and he's very 24 00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:45,500 good at what he does and he's a well, recognized expert in his 25 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:50,300 field. But his particular ambition was 26 00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:54,200 not driven in the direction of managing people. 27 00:01:54,500 --> 00:01:57,800 And so as I was reflecting on this on the conversation with 28 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,000 him and with my clients and with this group that I'm 29 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:06,100 facilitating, some workshops for It had me reflecting about like 30 00:02:06,100 --> 00:02:11,700 I think there are really three stages of growth that we go 31 00:02:11,700 --> 00:02:13,700 through in the course of our career. 32 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:22,200 And then ambition is the energy, the emotional drive that ignites 33 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:28,100 us and really like drives us forward into further growth and 34 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:32,800 that can come from a few different places and why this is 35 00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:37,700 important. Tent for you is that you want to 36 00:02:37,700 --> 00:02:41,700 know what kind of ambition you have? 37 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,900 You want to know what's driving it and realize that that might 38 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:51,800 change depending on what stage of your career in and this 39 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,900 becomes important. Because when we don't understand 40 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:58,400 for ourselves, what is it? That's driving my ambition. 41 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,400 Then what happens is we can achieve a lot. 42 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:06,100 But not really feel satisfied or content by that or we can't 43 00:03:06,100 --> 00:03:10,600 accomplish a lot and be well, recognized and well, respected 44 00:03:10,900 --> 00:03:15,600 in something that we never really wanted. 45 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,800 But thought, well, that's what I'm supposed to do at this age 46 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:24,200 that's been coming up a lot too. And my coaching clients are 47 00:03:24,208 --> 00:03:27,200 saying, you know, at this age, like shouldn't I already know 48 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,000 how to do this, or at this age? Shouldn't I be somewhere? 49 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,100 And so I thought Okay, this is all connected. 50 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:39,000 So let me go back a minute. There are three stages that I'm 51 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,800 seeing. I think we all go through this. 52 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,800 The first stage in career is like the Workhorse stage. 53 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:50,200 You can also think of this as paying your dues and it's one 54 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,600 where new we don't really know what's going on. 55 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,700 We don't really know what we don't know. 56 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,000 But we're really eager. We're willing to work hard and 57 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,400 we think, you know, I just need to do the the work. 58 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,600 So for my clients and medicine and might be when you're in 59 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,800 residency. Like, I just need to be a 60 00:04:07,808 --> 00:04:11,200 Workhorse and do the work from my clients in the legal 61 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,800 profession. It's your first couple years as 62 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,800 an associate. Your, it's just about doing the 63 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,800 work getting the hours in creating that foundation. 64 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,400 So that you understand more about what's going on and how to 65 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,900 apply your learning to real-life situations. 66 00:04:29,900 --> 00:04:33,300 This is sometimes the transition between I mean like a boot camp, 67 00:04:33,300 --> 00:04:38,400 coding environment, and then actually working, you know, with 68 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,000 humans in the workplace building things. 69 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:47,600 So that's that first stage and often that is driven by the 70 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:53,500 desire to get good at something that you are new at. 71 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:57,200 And it might even be driven by a desire to prove yourself, 72 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:03,400 especially if you are the Only one in your family in that 73 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,100 industry or if you are the only one in your friend group or in 74 00:05:07,100 --> 00:05:11,700 your community or, you know, you're the person who you think 75 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,400 I like. I am an unlikely person to be in 76 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,600 this position to be in this career and I am going to prove 77 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,800 myself. I'm going to work really hard. 78 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,100 I'm going to learn how to do this. 79 00:05:21,100 --> 00:05:24,600 I'm going to be good at this. So that's that first stage. 80 00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:29,400 We're in a huge learning mode because there's just so much. 81 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,700 That's happening. We're very sponge-like. 82 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:37,000 Absorbing everything. And that stage is characterized 83 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:42,900 by a lot of activity. There is a lot of doing there is 84 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:46,700 a lot of grinding. There is a lot of just working 85 00:05:46,700 --> 00:05:50,500 really hard for a, you know, period of time. 86 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:55,200 That's the first stage. Then we transition to a place 87 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,700 where you're no longer brand-new. 88 00:05:56,700 --> 00:05:59,700 You've been putting in so much work. 89 00:05:59,700 --> 00:06:01,600 You have a much better understanding. 90 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,000 Understanding of the domain and of the practice and you're 91 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:11,100 feeling pretty confident and competent about what you know, 92 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:14,500 and I think of this, as the practitioner stage, you are a 93 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:19,700 confident and competent practitioner, and you might also 94 00:06:19,700 --> 00:06:23,400 be the person who begins to do a little mentoring. 95 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,800 Or when someone new is on-boarded, you get paired with 96 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,700 them to help. Get them oriented and up to 97 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:31,500 speed. You. 98 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,200 To understand a lot of the unwritten rules about your 99 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,100 profession or about your industry or about your 100 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:45,700 organization and there can be a really satisfying feeling of. 101 00:06:45,700 --> 00:06:52,300 Yes, like I am a competent and confident practitioner in this 102 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:56,800 field and I'm just going to do it really well and at this stage 103 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,100 to because there's so much, you know, you've also learned how to 104 00:07:01,100 --> 00:07:03,300 work better. Better with the systems around 105 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:06,500 you so that things don't take as much time. 106 00:07:06,500 --> 00:07:11,300 You have a bit more. He's a bit more knowing. 107 00:07:11,300 --> 00:07:16,000 And so, you know, you're getting to enjoy this competent, 108 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,700 confident, practitioner. You're really good at what you 109 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:23,100 do and you enjoy it. And then, the third stage is 110 00:07:23,100 --> 00:07:29,100 when we start thinking more strategically and we start 111 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:34,600 thinking about Legacy, we start King about who's next? 112 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,700 Like we think about the incoming generation of practitioners. 113 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:43,500 We think about what is possible for the industry, and where the 114 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:47,700 industry is going, you now have this broader perspective. 115 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,900 You also have so much knowledge and you worked so hard for it. 116 00:07:52,900 --> 00:07:57,500 That you probably want to cultivate others. 117 00:07:57,900 --> 00:07:59,700 You want to share that knowledge. 118 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:03,600 You see maybe a better way. Way of doing things you have 119 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,700 learned through years of work and practice that there are some 120 00:08:08,700 --> 00:08:13,400 like processes or systems or relationship building that is 121 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:18,100 just really effective and you may have innovated along the way 122 00:08:18,300 --> 00:08:21,300 and thinking of a couple of my clients who, you know, the work 123 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:24,900 we do is the work of, can I really do it this way? 124 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:27,200 Like, can I manage with kindness? 125 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,200 Can I manage like being myself or am I supposed to be like 126 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,400 these other people? People and seeing them succeed 127 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,200 and Thrive as been so satisfying because I see them and some of 128 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,200 the things we talk about is how, you know, you have innovated in 129 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,800 your field, your you're leading your team in a way that may not 130 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:52,000 be common but it's very effective and it's now like you 131 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:58,800 are establishing a new model, you are now a living role model 132 00:08:59,100 --> 00:09:01,600 of what's possible and of a different way to be. 133 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:05,600 Successful in this career and thinking of my clients who are 134 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,900 parents of young kids and thinking of my clients who have 135 00:09:08,900 --> 00:09:14,600 chronic illness and have had to craft their career journey and 136 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,600 their leadership journey in a way that they didn't see modeled 137 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,000 for them. And now they have walked their 138 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:28,900 path and created, another example for others in their 139 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:30,900 field. So they're really stepping into 140 00:09:30,900 --> 00:09:35,100 this idea of Legacy. And what does it mean for them? 141 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,900 And I see also my boyfriend in this in this stage 2 because he 142 00:09:40,900 --> 00:09:45,100 cares so much about sharing his knowledge, with incoming, 143 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,300 students and incoming coders. He's a software developer. 144 00:09:49,300 --> 00:09:53,000 So he wants to really share what he has learned with other 145 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,500 people. And that Legacy stage does not 146 00:09:57,500 --> 00:10:01,100 require you to be a people manager. 147 00:10:01,900 --> 00:10:06,100 Sometimes it does. But I wanted to distinguish that 148 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:11,000 and I also want to share that these three stages are not 149 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,700 linear in the sense that you go through them for one period of 150 00:10:15,700 --> 00:10:17,800 time and then you never revisit that. 151 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,100 Again, part of what happens is the more you learn, the more you 152 00:10:22,100 --> 00:10:23,600 realize, how much you don't know. 153 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,700 So he can feel like you're always a beginner but having 154 00:10:27,700 --> 00:10:32,000 this sense of, you know, to some degree like we always Is Will 155 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,800 cycle between being that person who wants to work really hard, 156 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:41,300 being the confident and competent practitioner who is 157 00:10:41,300 --> 00:10:46,800 just great at being that person. And then stepping up into the 158 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,100 Legacy perspective, where you're thinking strategically, you're 159 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:57,800 having a broader vision for yourself for your industry, for 160 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:03,800 the community that you work in. And and it's so valuable to know 161 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,500 what stage you're at. And I've talked a couple of 162 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:09,900 times when we forget that. We're no longer the Workhorse, 163 00:11:10,100 --> 00:11:14,100 then we stay there. And we never really embrace the 164 00:11:14,100 --> 00:11:17,000 Strategic thinking and the bigger perspective. 165 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,100 And when we don't do that for ourselves, then other people 166 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:24,800 really struggle to do that to like other people will. 167 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,200 Just look at you as though you're a really hard worker and 168 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:35,500 that's all rather than like this is a hardworking person who also 169 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:40,000 is strategic, who also has great boundaries who also does not 170 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,000 work on the weekends, like like the whole picture of not just 171 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:51,400 what you do, but how you think and how you see And what's so 172 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:57,300 interesting, is because you have had the life experience that you 173 00:11:57,300 --> 00:12:03,200 have had. You will see things that might 174 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,000 be quite different than how other people see things. 175 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:11,100 And that's what allows you to be creative and Innovative and to 176 00:12:11,100 --> 00:12:19,600 really step into a role model role where you are shaping and 177 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,600 redefining yourself your industry. 178 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,700 And what's possible for others, which I think is just one of the 179 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:31,400 most meaningful. It's of being a human who works 180 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,500 with other humans is the way that we can have that kind of 181 00:12:35,900 --> 00:12:39,500 effect. So the way that this connects 182 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:45,500 with ambition, if ambition is this internal drive, it is 183 00:12:45,500 --> 00:12:49,600 emotional. It is not a purely intellectual 184 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,400 thing. It is driven by the energy of 185 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,900 the Heart, by the emotion, and what drives our ambition can 186 00:12:56,900 --> 00:13:00,900 also change. So in The beginning, sometimes 187 00:13:00,900 --> 00:13:03,500 you might think. Oh, my ambition is driven by my 188 00:13:03,500 --> 00:13:06,800 desire for achievement as simple as that. 189 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,000 I achieved a lot in school. And now that I'm out of school. 190 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,500 I also love that feeling of achievement. 191 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:14,200 And so, my achievement Drive kicks in. 192 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:19,800 And I am motivated to succeed and I am, my ambition, is purely 193 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,200 hooked up to my high achievement drive and my sense of identity 194 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,100 as a high achiever. But what happens is that if that 195 00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:32,000 is the only Only source of motivation that becomes quite 196 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,000 limiting. It's not sustainable and you can 197 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,100 end up in a life and a career that you don't actually want. 198 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:41,100 I'm thinking of a friend of mine years ago. 199 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:45,000 She and I went to law school together and she was working for 200 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,300 this big law firm and one day she said, you know, Kim. 201 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:54,200 I got the dream like I am working for this big firm and 202 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,700 I'm making all this money and I also don't get to spend. 203 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Nearly enough time with my kids and I got the dream but I think 204 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,300 I chose the wrong dream. Like I got what I wanted but 205 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:11,100 actually did I want that. She hadn't really pause to 206 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:15,800 reflect until she'd achieved that goal and then re-evaluated 207 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:18,900 and honestly, that is something that I can understand and relate 208 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:21,100 to. I went to law school. 209 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,600 I was really good at being a law student. 210 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,700 I became a lawyer. I'm really good at tests. 211 00:14:26,700 --> 00:14:29,000 I took the bar exam, I studied really hard. 212 00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:31,700 Felt so good with that achievement. 213 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,700 And then when I had it, and I really paused and thought, like, 214 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:38,600 what am I doing? Is this, is this really, what I 215 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,100 want to be doing, is this really like the shape of my life? 216 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:45,500 I decided no, and I went into a different direction. 217 00:14:45,900 --> 00:14:51,200 So I'm saying this, because it is so valuable to pause, from 218 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,600 time to time to check under the hood. 219 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,900 And just see, clearly, what is driving your ambition. 220 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:03,900 And so it could be achievement. It could be money and financial 221 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:06,400 reward. That is not a bad thing. 222 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,000 Not at all. So maybe that's what's driving 223 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,600 it. Maybe it's a desire for Mastery. 224 00:15:12,100 --> 00:15:16,200 A desire for expertise. I really understanding something 225 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:21,500 deeply and enjoying how it feels to be a very expert. 226 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:26,100 Level practitioner may be what's part of that achievement. 227 00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:33,500 And ambition engine is This how other people will see you that 228 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:38,000 feeling of, I need to prove myself can be really hooked into 229 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,300 that, that gets tricky to, by the way, because people do a lot 230 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:47,500 of things for status for what will other people think and that 231 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:50,300 ultimately can lead us to all kinds of places. 232 00:15:50,300 --> 00:15:54,300 We didn't necessarily want to go for people that we don't 233 00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:57,600 necessarily care about, but that's something to be aware of 234 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,100 to we can be Be driven by Legacy. 235 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,500 As I was talking about. The desire for ambition, can be 236 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:10,900 a desire to create something. After you, a desire to nurture 237 00:16:10,900 --> 00:16:18,000 others, a desire to have an impact to have a ripple effect 238 00:16:18,100 --> 00:16:22,900 that far extends Beyond who you are in this moment. 239 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,900 Your ambition can be about creating change one of my 240 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,300 clients. Her ambition was, I want to be 241 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:35,800 at the leadership table advocating for our group? 242 00:16:36,300 --> 00:16:40,600 I want to be at the table, making decisions about who we 243 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,400 hire about compensation. I want to make decisions about, 244 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,100 you know, like who this firm works with and who this firm 245 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:52,300 does it work with? So all of these desires of my 246 00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:56,200 ambition is driven because I want to be the one who is able 247 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,000 to create change because of the decisions that I make. 248 00:16:59,900 --> 00:17:03,200 You might choose ambition based on autonomy. 249 00:17:03,700 --> 00:17:10,099 I want to be more in power to make decisions about what I work 250 00:17:10,099 --> 00:17:14,500 on, who I work with. And when, and you might be 251 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:18,700 driven by a sense of excitement and Novelty and bishan. 252 00:17:18,700 --> 00:17:24,900 As this expansive curiosity, and this hunger to learn more and 253 00:17:24,900 --> 00:17:28,600 keep growing. And if you are a human, it's 254 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,700 very likely. That your particular ambition 255 00:17:31,700 --> 00:17:36,500 Drive is a mix of some of these different things and some years. 256 00:17:36,500 --> 00:17:38,400 It might be more of one. And some years. 257 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,700 I might be more of the other because it can change especially 258 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:45,600 as you achieve your different goals. 259 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:50,700 You'll find that the same thing that motivated you for one stage 260 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:57,200 may not really get you energized for the next stage. 261 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,500 So, one way to think about leadership. 262 00:17:59,900 --> 00:18:02,400 And one way to think about ambition and these three 263 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,600 different stages of the Workhorse. 264 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:10,300 The competent practitioner, the Strategic Legacy person with the 265 00:18:10,300 --> 00:18:15,900 vision is to think in terms of what are the decisions you want 266 00:18:15,900 --> 00:18:18,200 to make. So at that earliest level, the 267 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,700 Workhorse level. We often don't have a lot of 268 00:18:20,708 --> 00:18:23,400 choices. It's just about taking what's 269 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:28,200 given to us and executing becoming a really good at doing 270 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,900 the thing that other people. People assigned to us, we don't 271 00:18:31,900 --> 00:18:36,500 often have a lot of choice about that as we go into the confident 272 00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:39,200 and competent practitioner. You may have more 273 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:44,100 decision-making, Authority about how you work or when you work, 274 00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:46,300 right? And then when you're on that 275 00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:49,600 Legacy stage, when you're thinking, in terms of big 276 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,900 picture, often that's paired with making decisions about what 277 00:18:54,900 --> 00:18:57,500 other people will work on. So you're thinking about 278 00:18:57,500 --> 00:19:01,300 Staffing, you're thinking about who's Right person to assign 279 00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:05,400 this project or this work too, but not always. 280 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:10,800 So I mention this because I think it can be helpful to ask 281 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,800 yourself. What are the decisions that I 282 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:20,200 want to be in charge of what are the decisions that I want to 283 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:25,100 hold the responsibility for making for my boyfriend? 284 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:28,200 He didn't want to manage people did not want to make decisions 285 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,700 about Staffing or people. Well, he wanted to make 286 00:19:30,700 --> 00:19:34,300 decisions about what he's working on and like when he's 287 00:19:34,300 --> 00:19:37,900 working on it. He wanted a lot of autonomy and 288 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:41,600 he wanted to go deep into his particular field, become an 289 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,900 expert practitioner there for somebody else, the desire. 290 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:53,400 Maybe I want to have autonomy and decision-making power over. 291 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:58,200 Who our clients are. I want to make decisions about 292 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,100 who we hire. How we hire them, maybe you want 293 00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:05,200 to make decisions about onboarding, or you want to make 294 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:10,500 decisions about policies in your organization around, you know, 295 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:15,400 Leah around taking leave or taking sabbaticals, or all kinds 296 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:20,200 of different things, but know for yourself, because it's easy 297 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:25,100 to get lost in either. Comparing yourself to others and 298 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:28,300 thinking you should do what they do because you're the same age 299 00:20:28,900 --> 00:20:33,700 or it It's easy to just get lost in the momentum because life has 300 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:36,800 momentum. And if we're not checking in 301 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:42,000 with ourselves, it's easy to get swept along and then think, what 302 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,700 am I doing? Why am I here? 303 00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:49,200 And do I even want this? So that is what I wanted to 304 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,800 share with you today. These different stages are not 305 00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:57,000 totally linear. They are not exclusive like we 306 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,900 cycle between them all but my hope is that As you go through 307 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:04,700 the week. Keep this in mind for yourself. 308 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:11,500 What is your ambition driven by? Where are you in your career 309 00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:14,900 stage? And how does that inform? 310 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:17,900 What's next? All right. 311 00:21:17,900 --> 00:21:21,500 Thank you so much for listening. I'll talk to you next time. 312 00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:29,900 If you know, it's time to level F, but you feel All your 313 00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:34,200 perfectionism Self Doubt and uncertainty getting in the way 314 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:38,100 then come work with me. We'll have six months of 315 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:42,100 one-on-one coaching and it all starts by going to my website, 316 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:48,400 chemicalguys.com coaching and joining my waitlist. 317 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,000 Talk to you soon.