1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,560 Send some units over to the Sawyer house. 2 00:00:03,280 --> 00:00:05,440 You round up all the minors. I want all of them. 3 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:07,280 You can't do that. You can't do that. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,920 But I'll have a warrant that says I can by the time we 5 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,000 arrive. It's called child endangerment. 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:24,680 You take one of mine Hiding for Horrors podcast where we discuss 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,040 all things horror from one off movies to franchises, TV series 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,240 and even expanded media. I'm Mark. 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,160 I'm Tawan. I'm Elian. 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,360 And today we're watching Leatherface, released in 2017, 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:43,040 directed by Julia Maury and Alexandra Bulisto and written by 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,200 Seth M Sherwood. Elian, can you please give the 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,400 people a Plot Summary? Years before the event of the 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,400 Texas Chainsaw Massacre, a young Jackson Sawyer is growing up 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,480 inside the twisted Sawyer fan. After being committed to a 16 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:56,000 mental hospital, Jackson escapes with no hold on. 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,960 Jackson escaped with several other inmates, along with the 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,480 kidnapped nurse named Lizzie. As the group travels across 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,560 Texas, they are haunted by Texas Ranger Hal Hartman, a man whose 20 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,480 obsession with revenge has turned him into something as 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,840 almost as dangerous as the people he's chasing. 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,760 What falls is a bloody road trip involving murder, betrayal, 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,160 torture, and one very important question. 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,400 Which one of these messed up kids is happy going? 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,120 And know how to fill headlines this week so we will get 26 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:26,040 straight into our movie. Just to piggyback off like the 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,280 last line of the Plot Summary, which one of these messed up 28 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,760 kids is actually going to let the face of? 29 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,200 Well, of the three, we can already rule one of them out. 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,840 Obviously it's not fucking. It's not the fucking girl. 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,840 My, my biggest problem, my biggest problem with this movie, 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,000 this entire movie is that it's British person. 33 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,920 No, the person who should have been letting the face they 34 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,560 didn't make Leatherface. It made more sense and it made 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,000 more sense for Henry Leatherface. 36 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:03,720 But no they went with the oh Jedediah used to be attractive 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,960 and he knew how to flirt with bitches and now he is some 38 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,560 awkward cannibal butcher some what 20-30 years later? 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,160 Like what is this? I was telling Tawan before we 40 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,120 hit recording. Watching the movie, I knew that 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,360 it was a sequel, I mean a prequel to the original movie. 42 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,320 But then after watching the kill count, I'm like, wait, this is 43 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:33,640 also a prequel to the Texas Pain Saw 3D, which I did not like 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,080 because First off, it didn't make sense with the continuity 45 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,120 because that pitch was supposed to be 40. 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:46,920 But here she is in her early 20s and it's set in my like a movie 47 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:50,480 is dumb. But this movie makes no sense. 48 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,240 Like I guess when you think about it and you you think about 49 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,000 the sheriff and the mayor. Well, was he the sheriff or the 50 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,560 mayor in the last movie? Tawan He. 51 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,440 Was he was the mayor in 3D? But he was the sheriff here. 52 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Wait, no, no, no, no, no. He wasn't a sheriff here. 53 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,000 He was the mayor in 3D. His dad was the sheriff here. 54 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,480 Yeah, his dad was the sheriff here. 55 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,640 OK. So, yeah, so like Evan having 56 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:20,800 the mayor and his his deputy son like this gives them a reason to 57 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,640 always want to to fuck, fuck over the the the Sawyers. 58 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,400 You know, they're responsible for his sister's death. 59 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,600 I get that like heavy those connected plots. 60 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,040 OK, fine, great. The Who is the other face part 61 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,240 of the story was annoying because it's like in my head I'm 62 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,760 like, OK, obviously I want to say it's the bigger kid, but 63 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,080 that is too obvious. So it has to be the attractive 64 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,840 1. And I was right. 65 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,600 And I'm just, I'm just mad because that's stupid. 66 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:58,000 That's that's stupid. Like that's dumb. 67 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,960 You have to make it like, I don't even get what you have to 68 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,680 make it like that. Honestly, I would have just 69 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,160 accepted it even more if they just made it the kit. 70 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:11,880 But because they're making it the other guy, Jackson or 71 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,480 whatever, like it doesn't do anything. 72 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,200 It being him like Oh my God, y'all thought it was the like 73 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,040 the bigger kid? No, it's actually this kid who 74 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:29,240 was helping Lizzie throughout the story and trying to like 75 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:34,200 escape with her or what not like but like at the same time, who 76 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,640 fucking cares? Like this doesn't change 77 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,960 anything for me. It doesn't. 78 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:46,240 I was very confused by just because I, I, I don't know, this 79 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:53,440 whole, this whole time I thought all who was Geminiah and what we 80 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,640 thought, who we thought, who we thought was Leatherface were the 81 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,840 kids. I, I understand that there was a 82 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:00,240 birthday scene and all that stuff, but I thought she got, I 83 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:02,960 thought all her kids were taken. I had, I have no idea why I 84 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,040 thought that they were just teenager. 85 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,200 All of them are like kids. I I was so confused on that 86 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:15,080 part, this. I don't know why it bothered me 87 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,440 that this film wasn't, it was English. 88 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,120 I'm not like British English. It's it's not. 89 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,680 They're in the country. They're in Texas. 90 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,320 What weren't? All the actors British though, 91 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:33,520 like English. Well, Sam Strike is English. 92 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,560 But like there were there were certain parts though, where 93 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,280 their accents kind of jumped out. 94 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,080 Sam, Sam, Sam Strike, the one who played Jackson, his accent 95 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,240 was was coming through. But also like I thought it, I 96 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,880 thought it was just me because like I've watched a show that 97 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,240 he's in so I'd know his actual accent. 98 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,360 So I thought that was just me, just like my head just filling 99 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,160 in blanks, but was. Slipping through that part for 100 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,320 sure. And then that other guy, I 101 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,760 believe he's like Australian, I think so I think his, his accent 102 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,360 was also slipping through. But like everybody else, for the 103 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,200 most part, American. Like Stephen Doris, you know, 104 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,840 he, he's American. Mother too. 105 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,320 Yeah. It was just so confusing. 106 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,520 I'm like, I'm not trying to trash anything, like I don't 107 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,480 care. It was just more of like I and 108 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,520 this wasn't this film. Wasn't this film also filmed in 109 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:29,960 like Slovakia or something like that? 110 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,640 I could be so wrong. Bulgaria. 111 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,560 There we go. And I'm like, they've just done. 112 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:42,000 This in Texas like dead ass. Once they once they move, once 113 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,240 they move a horror franchise out of the country, it's it's when 114 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:52,400 it dies, like it it never, it never keeps the same. 115 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,560 Like at some point we're going to do the the science of Lambs 116 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,360 franchise. And like once they leave 117 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,840 America, it goes downhill. That's the one. 118 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:10,400 That's the one thing I can say about fucking Halloween that 119 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,240 they make those movies here in the US or Canada. 120 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,360 They stay on the continent somewhere. 121 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:21,320 Once you leave America, the Americas, it goes downhill. 122 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,560 Productions. Well, you're going to be seeing 123 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,600 a lot of this because a lot of productions are not filming in 124 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,960 the US or. Canada right now, yeah. 125 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,440 And. I'm not trying to trash any of 126 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,440 the country because I know there are great films. 127 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:41,200 I think it's just more. EU No, some of the some bad 128 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,600 horror movies have gone to Bulgaria. 129 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:49,480 Like a couple of those terror raiser movies were were in 130 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,680 Bulgaria. No, no, I get it. 131 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,920 But I'm like, I'm not trying to trash because I know there are 132 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,560 films outside that. Our gut is just like. 133 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,120 No, I get, I get what you're saying. 134 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,560 It feels different. You can tell that it was like it 135 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,720 was shot elsewhere, which I can also tell it's like this doesn't 136 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,440 feel like like those other movies. 137 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,360 I felt like I was in Texas, like this is this is Texas. 138 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:23,800 You didn't feel the. This movie this this movie also 139 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,440 continues that theme of like why is this actor in here? 140 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:34,440 Why is the what Steven Dorff he not he not all that he been in 141 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,960 some. Honestly, none of them are all. 142 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,039 That he's been in some some movies, but like I was going to 143 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:47,200 say Lily Taylor, but outside of like a movie here and there, 144 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,760 she's not all of that. I guess the biggest name really 145 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:56,360 would be Fan Jones. But like 2017, I think he was 146 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:02,760 still on his rise. He was still like on the rise. 147 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,280 He wasn't like. He was an iron fist in Game of 148 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,920 Thrones around that town, yeah. Who is he in Game of Thrones? 149 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,760 Hold on. He was the one who got his Dick 150 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:17,440 cut off and became the pet, all that. 1. 151 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,600 I'll. Say he he was a great actor. 152 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:29,400 My bad. But yeah, he he a mother British 153 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,240 actor. He was like, yeah, this is, I 154 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,240 don't know, this movie feels different from the other one and 155 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:39,000 it just feels disjointed and I don't know, I I get where they 156 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:44,040 were going for, I guess. I don't know about you, Tuan, 157 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:50,320 but given that we watched all the other ones, I think, I think 158 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:57,120 I kind of wanted to see a young Nubbins or a young cook, you 159 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,080 know, give me the other siblings. 160 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,080 Like give me, give me other people. 161 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:10,640 If like, I guess that I, I guess if something were to change 162 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,320 here, it could have just been just as straight like, because I 163 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,200 feel like the whole thing with this prequel was trying to as 164 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,120 like who what to do? This kid is Leatherface. 165 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:27,440 Like were we like hunting? Which sure, like that's like, 166 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,480 you know, that's what they decided to do with this. 167 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:35,000 But it it doesn't really take me anywhere, I guess you could say. 168 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,160 But if yeah, maybe they are just like age of the rest of them 169 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,080 kind of down and like, well, I mentioned they took all the kids 170 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,520 and they were like, and this was just showing them on some shit 171 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,400 to get back home to their mom. Maybe that could have been 172 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,120 something different. Like, I don't know, make it an 173 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,560 amalgamation of different family members across all the other 174 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:04,200 films since I mean since 3D didn't have anybody anyway 175 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,320 besides the grandma. But. 176 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,120 Yeah, just coming to Grandma. But this is also a prequel to 177 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,680 that first movie. And in the first movie, we see 178 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,160 two of his brothers. So it's like, OK, where are they 179 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,840 in this movie? Because he's the baby. 180 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:27,760 He has two older brothers, and we see neither one of them. 181 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:33,120 I'm just like, OK, at least give me like a glimpse of the cook. 182 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:39,840 Give me the glimpse of top top. Well, no, not chop top the the 183 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,720 hitchhiker. Like why? 184 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Like if you're going to make it a prequel and you're going to do 185 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,440 all this like I don't I don't know. 186 00:11:48,680 --> 00:11:57,720 It's just this movie is just. I feel like I did the plot 187 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,600 Summer would have been best. Well, I can't even say that just 188 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,600 because what you guys said that the Geminis older brothers were 189 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,440 older than they're not even kids like adults, correct? 190 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,720 They were already adults while you were beginning, you know. 191 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,080 Yeah, he he's the youngest. And if he's like what, 1617 in 192 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,880 his movie, they're like, yeah, they are at least the oldest is 193 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:25,880 like at at least in like his late 20s because he was, he was 194 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,680 almost the old man in that first movie. 195 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:33,320 He was at 40 or something. OK, that's like go ahead, sorry. 196 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,640 No, you can I'll say also like the the problem as well is that 197 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:44,040 like in the original and in 3D leather place, leather face is 198 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:51,520 clearly like a bigger person. Yes, like leather face has like 199 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,800 has like a way bigger frame. Like leather face is like built 200 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:01,560 like a football player at like 13, like at 13 with the way his 201 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:05,600 body looks and like once he's older, like he's just he's huge. 202 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,000 And you're not about to tell me that this guy is growing into 203 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,280 that and make it believable for me. 204 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,080 And that's why I feel like they tried to like place him sleight 205 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,080 of hand type shit, because it didn't end up being bud and it 206 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,640 was him. And it's like, why did what was 207 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,960 the whole point of that? Why not just do? 208 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,760 Why not just? Do that honestly. 209 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,640 What it should have been. It's mostly the height for me 210 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,440 because I'm like, at that, at Jackson's age, he's at the 211 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,920 height he's going to be at. So you're telling me by the time 212 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:44,440 we see this man in 70, what, When were you in 75 S 20 years 213 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,680 he was able to magically grow a couple of feet and get a bigger 214 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:52,560 frame? And then entitled to that. 215 00:13:52,560 --> 00:14:00,000 Like they in 3D they explicitly stated that he had the mental 216 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:05,240 capacity of an 8 year old. We didn't even, they couldn't 217 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,000 even like they couldn't even like show him like getting like 218 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,560 a brain injury or something that would have left him. 219 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,840 I mean, I guess some type of. Disabled or anything here like 220 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,880 sure he got that gunshot to the face, but it was just to the 221 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,720 face that wouldn't that wouldn't have done anything else I. 222 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,040 Guess the trauma, the trauma could have set him back and made 223 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,600 him regress. You know, a traumatic 224 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,240 experience. He could have had a mental 225 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,520 break. But like, also you're, you're 226 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,080 right. Like also how? 227 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,000 Wait a minute. Because also now I'm thinking 228 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:42,360 about it, this was set in 55 when he is what 1718 and then 229 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:48,840 the so I'm so I'm guessing when we get to 70 to 75 or 75. 230 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:53,080 Is that what we said in 75? Shit, I forgot when we get to to 231 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:59,280 74, I'm guessing what he's like what he's 30 something and I'm 232 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,520 I'm right he. He's been near his 60s. 233 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,640 When? When? 234 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,840 We get to 3D and that man did all that walking around running, 235 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,080 beating people with chainsaws, disarming the young folks that 236 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,920 those two young dudes who ain't no way he beat up Trey Songz in 237 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,480 his 60s and he has been in that goddamn house sitting in the 238 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,600 goddamn wall all that time with grandma. 239 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:29,480 I mean, with with his Mama. Like, come on. 240 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,120 At at least the prequel to the remake made sense. 241 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,640 At least when you thought about it, connect the dots, it made 242 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,760 sense. This don't make no sense. 243 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:51,640 But let's get into some scenes. And a scene that makes me mad 244 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,120 thinking about in retrospect is a scene where he's in the the 245 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,080 the home or whatever the the not. 246 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,240 It wasn't a jail, it was a reform school. 247 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,320 And he's just like flirting with the nurse. 248 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,280 He's chit chatting, being all charismatic. 249 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,840 There's. My fuck kicking it like he at 250 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,480 school. How is that Leatherface? 251 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,720 How is that the person that we see grab that woman in her in 252 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,600 her red shorts and bash that man's head in? 253 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:28,360 How that the same guy we see in the wall in Texas 3D 'cause that 254 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,880 damn show ain't the leather face I saw in Texas Chainsaw Massacre 255 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,760 too with a chainsaw in between more girls legs. 256 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,560 Like what are we doing here? I know it might have been that 257 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,720 one. It might have been that that 258 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:48,840 would make sense and I'm like, OK, no, I don't know, like if we 259 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:54,960 wouldn't, I just feel like I'm no, I'm I'm a hold it with the 260 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:01,160 character section. OK, but another scene the I'm 261 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,720 getting shot in the face. I don't I didn't. 262 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,200 I don't like that explanation for that's why he needs to wear 263 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:15,359 the mask. I I thought that was too. 264 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,400 That was too easy. They could. 265 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,480 Have given him like a little artsy ass. 266 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,839 King. Wait, wait, wait. 267 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,040 I have a question. Was it like the original? 268 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,400 Like he was just deformed that bird. 269 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,560 No. What the fuck happened? 270 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,280 Again, Oh my God, they never they never showed his actual 271 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,440 face in that original movie. He we all we saw was that he 272 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,240 liked to wear the skin mask, but they also showed him, they also 273 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,760 showed him in that original movie wearing a wig. 274 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,760 If you would have just like even if we were playing off Jack 275 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,440 Jackson as this, as the masculine smooth talking dude, 276 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,920 if we would have just saw that he liked, you know, make masks 277 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:58,720 or he liked, I don't know, being theatrical or something. 278 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,080 It would have also explained why he was wearing, wearing a wig in 279 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,480 that first movie, why he's wearing masks. 280 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,120 I you didn't need to shoot his face off. 281 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,000 True, true because. The one thing I will say about 282 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:17,880 the Rob Zombie Halloween prequel movies is like he explained that 283 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,120 Michael like to wear masks to like to hide behind masks as a 284 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:23,200 kid. So that's why he still wears the 285 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,320 mask when he is older killing people. 286 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,520 Like if you're going to do something like that then you 287 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,400 have to give me a better explanation than his face was 288 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,760 shot off and he has to wear this thing around his face to keep 289 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,880 his face together because low key after it heals. 290 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,800 Why the fuck? I mean I guess you're deformed a 291 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,160 little bit but like you're the middle of nowhere of Texas. 292 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,160 Who the fuck cares? Well, I guess not the middle of 293 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,880 nowhere anymore because a mother fake because you pop this up 294 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,920 last last episode too long and I just recently edited it so I 295 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,760 just heard it. Where are these people coming 296 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,440 from and where were they in the original movie? 297 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,400 We got a whole like like a bunch of like a whole Sheriff's 298 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,880 Department. We got people driving around 299 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,880 this area. It's enough for a reform school 300 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,440 to be a cup, be a few walking distance to where everybody's 301 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,560 at, but nobody. Was oh, it's a diner. 302 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,360 Right, but none of y'all was around in 74. 303 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:37,320 Come on, it wasn't like. The math is not. 304 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:41,360 The math is not Matthew. It's not connecting. 305 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:46,240 But what about you guys? What are your what are some 306 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,120 scenes that stood out to you guys and kills? 307 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,560 When, what was the the big boy's name? 308 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:57,480 Did did he ever have a name? Bud? 309 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,920 That's it. When he did a did a side curb on 310 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,800 the fucking guy. What was it called? 311 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,600 Yeah. Oh my God, that was so neat. 312 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,960 And then the girl was so wild for that necrophilia scene. 313 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,200 Oh my gosh. She gave me the egg. 314 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,960 I was like. Oh. 315 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:22,560 I was like nasty bitch. Oh my God, that was so nasty. 316 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,200 I think her, I think her death was the most satisfying for me 317 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,760 because she just got on my fucking nerves, honestly. 318 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,200 And the fact that it was the IT was the police officer that lost 319 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,640 his sister, which kind of gave it a little bit more 320 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:44,480 satisfaction in my, in my opinion, scenes that I like. 321 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,680 I don't know. There is this like specific 322 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,360 scene that I kind of just think of. 323 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:51,480 Scenes that like were more memorable was when they hid 324 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,120 inside that cow's carcass just to skip the police. 325 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,720 Oh my God that shit pissed me off. 326 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,280 Ain't no way all three of y'all asses are spitting in there, 327 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:08,200 especially with bud like that was the that was so unbelievable 328 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,120 actually I'm like no way all y'all asses just came out. 329 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,080 This one fucking cow, especially when they showed the overhead 330 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,680 shot showing what the cow looked like. 331 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,520 I'm like, all right, now let's be for real here. 332 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,160 No, that that I. Was just like. 333 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,680 I did. I did have one. 334 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,400 Oh, according to the fucking beginning, when when they killed 335 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:48,600 the the sheriff's daughter at the beginning, I was like, OK, I 336 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,520 see. I understand why they the 337 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,920 Harvard to have fucking forever beef with this family because, 338 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:03,440 yeah, after that it's beyond up. So I understand why they burned 339 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,560 down their house and killed and killed their whole family 340 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,760 bloodline. So you know what? 341 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:15,960 I'm kind of on the mayor's side now in 3D after, after all that. 342 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,400 Like, 'cause they, they did they, I think her name was 343 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,040 Betty. Yeah, Betty Hartman. 344 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:25,080 They did her dirty. That was actually insane. 345 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,640 Another scene, the whole diner scene was crazy. 346 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,120 Like I was honestly I was so confused for a second watching 347 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:40,440 that scene, 'cause I, I turn my head for one second and they 348 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,640 just say everybody just dying. And so after diner I was like 349 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,680 wait, what did I miss? And then I rewind for like a 350 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,840 couple seconds back. I'm like, oh, I literally didn't 351 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,280 miss anything. These two crazy bitches really 352 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,040 were just like y'all we about to kill some people and they just 353 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,720 started killing everybody in the diner. 354 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:04,080 I was like, oh, OK, sure. Real quick, I just want to say I 355 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,840 feel like it should have been a bigger group of people that 356 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,000 escaped. They were following. 357 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,200 And that's my gripe with every fucking Texas Chainsaw Massacre 358 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,640 movie. The group was never big enough. 359 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:21,040 I don't know, like I feel like the I feel like The Who is 360 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Leatherface would have been better if we had at least one 361 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,840 more potential. I don't think any. 362 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,000 I don't think any additions would have made me feel any 363 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,200 differently about that part of it. 364 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,720 No, I still would have hated it. I just feel like it would have 365 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,440 been better pace. Only the pace. 366 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,680 Yeah, well, well, I think, I think it's good 'cause this shit 367 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,920 was was sub 90 minutes anyway. Yeah. 368 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,680 We don't. We don't need nothing else added 369 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,080 on. Honestly, for me it's crazy, 370 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:05,480 'cause I after the last movie, I was like, you know, it can't it 371 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,640 can't get worse than this. It can't get worse than do you 372 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:15,520 think, 'cause, But at least that was like comical like. 373 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:19,160 I could I could. I could read it as camp if I 374 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,000 want to. Yes, this one is just like y'all 375 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:26,560 were trying to take you. You're trying to be serious and 376 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,520 you took yourself too serious and this is ass. 377 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,760 Now, one thing I can't say in general, which I I meant to 378 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,000 which in the movie is shot pretty good that it would be 379 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,840 great. I could say like overall like 380 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,800 the movie like comparatively to someone like the some of the 381 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,240 other ones that we get later on. It shot like pretty good here 382 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,520 and I definitely thought that through watching it, but the IT 383 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,320 was shot but the way it was shot, I was like, this doesn't 384 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:05,440 give Texas Chainsaw though. Right, like even even Texas 385 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,760 Chainsaw three DI feel like we were. 386 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,920 We talked about it with Scream for a moment there. 387 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,360 The horror movies weren't being like shot or lit the way that 388 00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:20,080 they should have been in the, in the 20 tens. 389 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:25,360 Like they were all being like overly bright, overly glossy, 390 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,800 'cause that was my, one of my issues with Texas Chainsaw 3D. 391 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:34,000 I'm like, this looks too, it's too bright, it's too clean, it's 392 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,560 too polished. It's not given the griminess of 393 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,760 Texas Chainsaw. Like even the even the remake, 394 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,160 though, it was like, you know, it was the remake. 395 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,440 It was better, better camera and stuff. 396 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,200 It still gave a grimy Yeah, this one didn't. 397 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,920 And I feel like it was supposed to. 398 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:58,240 I'm just like, but you, you don't like you you don't. 399 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:07,360 But also I got mother grape. I probably missed it, but where 400 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:16,880 was the Mama between this movie and Texas 3D? 401 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,160 Because she won in the she won in the first one. 402 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,640 This is true. It should have just been 403 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,640 Grandpa, this one, like I, that would have made more sense to 404 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,360 me. You know, I don't know. 405 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,000 No, you're right. And she went there. 406 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,720 He went in the like, I get like, hey, yes, you got married and 407 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,760 you got a new last name. But did you just abandoned the 408 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,000 family? And then did you come back after 409 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,800 they shot up everybody to take claim of I was going to say 410 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,200 Bubba, but he not Bubba. And that's what he he, he he 411 00:26:54,200 --> 00:27:00,680 Jed, Like, did you disappear during that period in the 70s 412 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,360 and then you came back to claim him? 413 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:11,560 I'm so confused. I don't think I have any further 414 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:17,120 scenes though. Kills alien scenes. 415 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,000 Are you? Are you? 416 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,440 Are you Also tapped? I'm kind of tapped. 417 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,600 I kind of talked about my kill scenes with the with my scenes. 418 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,040 I think the only kill thing I would say is like, girl, you're 419 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,080 trying to survive it and you talk shit about her, about his 420 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,160 Mama. You don't know about no boy's 421 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,320 Mama. Like, especially in Texas, you 422 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,040 don't talk about nobody's Mama. I was like, girl. 423 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,480 You was asking by the way. Why is your Mama Latina right 424 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,320 now? He didn't even get it out fully, 425 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,040 like she didn't get the full sentence out took. 426 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,200 That hand off with this she was. Halfway through and I was like, 427 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,200 you know what I was like at that point? 428 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,360 She was asking for it. But you already in the bear 429 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:01,200 trap. You already in the bear trap. 430 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,360 What are you doing? He liked you. 431 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:08,120 He was sweet on you. You had something about his 432 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:11,840 Mama. You know, *** love their Mama. 433 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,320 Let's move on over to the character list and we're going 434 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,400 to start with Bud, our fake out Leatherface. 435 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:28,120 He should have just been Leatherface like he see Mikey 436 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,960 had the mental issues. He had the anger that we 437 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,440 definitely saw from the other face in that first movie. 438 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,640 He seemed very protective that we saw in the first movie and in 439 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:43,680 Texas 3D. Like sometimes you don't need to 440 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,840 do a twist. Sometimes fans are OK with the 441 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,600 obvious it. Can just be what it is, because 442 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,680 now that we have this other this this other character that is in, 443 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,680 that is the actual one, now it makes even less sense to me. 444 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,040 Right. It, it was just, it was fine the 445 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,440 way it was. We didn't need to we didn't need 446 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:16,680 to have a we need to have a difference here because like in 447 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,880 general, like I feel, I feel as though this is one of those 448 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:29,360 franchises where Mark, you know, loves to say like we don't need 449 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,360 a an origin story. We really didn't need a origin 450 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,800 story here for leather freeze in general. 451 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,400 Like we're getting all this like like prequel lore and all this 452 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,720 shit, but it really isn't needed here in in this. 453 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,680 We tried. They've already tried it and it 454 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,120 didn't work. Yeah, and and it would just work 455 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,200 if they just made good movies, like not well, OK, not saying 456 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,040 the prequel, I'm saying the franchise would just work if the 457 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,600 movies were good. And we are like, I wouldn't care 458 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,000 to know about what happened prior. 459 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,440 Like, you know, where you can just use subtext of what's going 460 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,320 on to make assumptions about, you know, what happened 461 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,960 beforehand. But you know, now that what 462 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,600 you're getting this, you're giving us this like doesn't 463 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,440 really supplement anything for me 'cause I never really cared 464 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:25,520 to know in the first place. And now it's just all disjointed 465 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,880 at this point. And then now we have this 466 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,160 character and like we, you know, we're supposed to, you know, 467 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,320 they're supposed to make us think. 468 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,320 It was like the phrase which sure, I have that feeling at one 469 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,520 point, but because of the way that they like how closely they 470 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,120 were pairing, you know, the character of Jackson with 471 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,160 Lizzie, like they were kind of like 4 speed in that like 472 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,040 heavily. And they were relegating this 473 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,960 character a bud to the side. So it never really felt that way 474 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,360 in the 1st place. And I think like when Bud killed 475 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,200 Ike, they tried to like give make it make you think maybe 476 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,280 that was like Leatherface or something, but it just wasn't. 477 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,280 It just wasn't the case here. And. 478 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,640 They had a great, they had a great opportunity to be like, 479 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,440 OK, he had close connections with people outside of his 480 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,240 family, but Circle was like, because they were on the run 481 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,800 because of the Hartman family or whatever. 482 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,440 It could have been revealed that the Sawyer family didn't kill 483 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,120 his daughter. It was actually Jackson. 484 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,920 And you know, Jackson ends up getting killed by by Hal or 485 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,680 whatever. And that is what causes, you 486 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,280 know, him to go full on murder. I'm you killed one of my, my 487 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,680 best friends and you could still have Lizzie do the same stupid 488 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,840 shit she did. It just wouldn't, it would have, 489 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,320 it could have been so much easier if you just connected the 490 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,520 dots. It could have just been he lost 491 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,720 his best friend and that's what that was his last like thing 492 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,880 keeping him somewhat normal. But now he fully fucking snapped 493 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,840 'cause he was barely there. But you can see that he liked 494 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,120 being friends with Jackson and Lizzie. 495 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,840 But you also saw that he had, you know, the issues with his 496 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,120 emotions and his mental stability. 497 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,240 But he would definitely still try and protect his friends. 498 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,240 It would have just made sense. Sometimes the obvious thing is 499 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:38,640 the best thing to do. Yeah, it wouldn't hurt. 500 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,720 Do you have thoughts on this, Eliana? 501 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,320 Would you like to move on to the next character? 502 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,000 Let's move on to the next character because I don't really 503 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,080 have much to say of the characters. 504 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,760 To be fair, I kind of have more opinions on the overall film. 505 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,840 Let's move on over to the Mama Sawyer. 506 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,680 The Mama Sawyer Verna now again prophets up. 507 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,840 A little earlier. We saw this lady before she died 508 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:14,280 in a flashback scene in Texas 3D when she was writing the the the 509 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,480 the, the girl a letter. Who? 510 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,360 Where was she in the first movie? 511 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,760 Because if she's leather faces mom, I'm guessing she's also the 512 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,880 Cook's mom. And I'm guessing she's also the 513 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,440 the the hitchhiker's mom. So where was she in the movie? 514 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,680 You just left your kids with dead ass grandpa. 515 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,920 Like come on, what? What are we doing here? 516 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,680 Where were you in that first movie? 517 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,280 You just left the kids with grandpa. 518 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,000 Grandpa was the best of killing. She was giving cookie. 519 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,360 I could have put me first. Oh, so like if we're doing this, 520 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,680 why not? We have never seen Grandpa 521 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,600 actually alive. This would have been a great 522 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,199 time to show Grandpa alive, right? 523 00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:16,719 Wait, and what's was he? Didn't he kill somebody at the 524 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,960 beginning? Was that grandpa? 525 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,360 Yeah, yeah, that. Was. 526 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,000 Grandpa, he couldn't. What was his name? 527 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,440 Gemini couldn't do it so the grandpa just killed the guy. 528 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,560 With the snatcher. Yes. 529 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:35,679 Maybe I must have blocked that out. 530 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,120 I probably wasn't even watching then. 531 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,639 I'm probably still fiddling with some shit trying to get myself 532 00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,320 prepared to watch this. Are y'all sure? 533 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:46,760 Yes, he he killed her with a hammer. 534 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:53,199 Killed the guy with a hammer. 'Cause I'm on the Wikipedia 535 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:58,600 right now and I don't see nobody with any name of the grandpa 536 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,360 Sawyer. Let me let me see this. 537 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,160 Girl you want you can go look at the kill count. 538 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,160 That that like first scene at the beginning when they were at 539 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,160 the. With the, with the, with the 540 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,800 head on them, with the head when he had the little pig head. 541 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,800 No. Oh, prior to that, it was when 542 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,720 they were, they were like eating. 543 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,400 A They gave him a chainsaw for. A birthday? 544 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:29,080 Yeah. And the granddad had to kill the 545 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:37,040 guy they had tied up. Is Ralph Lauren still a good 546 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,760 brand? You know the pricey. 547 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:49,040 I, I completely missed that. Interesting. 548 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,880 Yeah, I, I miss that. I'm I don't even know where 549 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:01,680 that's in. Damn sis, you too high. 550 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,800 I haven't actually smoked yet, that's why I'm also very 551 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,360 confused. You not high for a podcast? 552 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:17,400 It's crazy. And this is continuity A, 553 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:25,480 Continuity B, Continuity C Oh shit. 554 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,400 Oh damn. And that. 555 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:40,200 Damn, I missed that leaving. Let me, let me take it, let me 556 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,560 take it back, let me take it back because what the fuck? 557 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,440 OK, but again, she wasn't there for the fucking first movie. 558 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:59,040 Why not just have grandpa be the main like the main person give 559 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,680 us more time with grandpa and show us that he's that why? 560 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,160 He really is the best of killing. 561 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:10,320 He could been killing folks his whole movie because they keep on 562 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,840 saying grandpa the best of killing. 563 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,480 But shit all all I kept on seeing was a corpse barely 564 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,000 holding the fucking mallet together. 565 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,000 And we really seen grandpa in the last couple movies anyway. 566 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,000 But like, if we going to do this, do it right, because where 567 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,920 was she? Where was she in the other movie 568 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,400 In in in in the first movie? It makes no sense go. 1st. 569 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,520 I, I guess, but also it's just like, OK, your, your family did 570 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,720 this. Like you wore all this huff and 571 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:49,080 the puff and you threaten and you threaten the sheriff and 572 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,800 shit. But like, like y'all, y'all, 573 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,080 y'all did this, Like y'all, y'all did this. 574 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:04,960 Y'all kicked this off. Yeah, I'm trying to think every 575 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,840 like every explanation in the. It's nothing. 576 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:16,200 Nothing's coming here. Oh, let's move right on over 577 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,800 then. To dare of Howe Hartman now 578 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:27,640 again yes, when you connected to because watching Texas three DI 579 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,480 was just like OK just this is a murderous cannibal cannibal 580 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:37,200 family, but they weren't really killing until them kids 581 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,440 technically broke into the goddamn house. 582 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,680 So why are y'all got all y'all gun blazing shooting up these 583 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,520 people burning their house down to the crisp and doing all this 584 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:54,360 crazy shit? 40 years later still But this, 585 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,880 this made it all make sense. Watching this movie now I get 586 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,040 why he was on his bullshit in Texas 3D. 587 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:09,000 This is the only part that I was OK with now. 588 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,840 It gave me legitimate reasons behind and motive behind what I 589 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:20,280 watched in Texas 3D which all just seemed random politician 590 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:26,680 shit. Yeah, this this was the wheel. 591 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,040 Like if you say this is kind of a one party movie where I was 592 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:35,080 like, all right, I I understand the explanation behind these 593 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,440 fruit this character in another movie now, because, as I said 594 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:45,840 earlier, yeah, if you yeah, my family member got crushed by a 595 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:54,320 fucking car engine be by on you guys is doing yeah, fuck, fuck 596 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,200 it's up yeah, we burning y'all shit down, which they did. 597 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,960 So I I mean to be frank, and this movie went kind of soft. 598 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,920 I'm surprised he pull up to the house and and shot shoot fucking 599 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:18,000 Verner right there. So yeah, I, I, it's. 600 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,200 You know, Mark, it's one of those moments where, you know, I 601 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,960 put my hands up and I'll y'all, y'all do what y'all do. 602 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:31,360 And and listen, I'll be like the. 603 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,200 Sheriff in the the third, I mean in 3D when he was looking at 604 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,160 what was happening and walking. Away. 605 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,360 Yeah, because, listen, after seeing what they did to his 606 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,520 daughter, I was like, you know what? 607 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,480 The whole family for the rest of their lives need to be on that. 608 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,960 Now I get the mayor now I get to so like oh they murdered my my 609 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,760 aunt. Oh they murdered myself. 610 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,480 Like we we always on that with y'all completely justified. 611 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,720 So technically they're y'all to murder the whole family. 612 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:07,200 Actually still makes me mad because how the hell the 613 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:13,440 grandson get murdered by a 60 year old man who's mentally 614 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:21,920 stunted at 8 years old. Let's move on to Lizzie. 615 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:32,520 Was she given? She was something she she was. 616 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,440 There. It's it's disfranchise. 617 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,240 It's disfranchise. They don't give good final girl 618 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:47,760 like Sally was A1 hit wonder cause none of them have been 619 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:53,400 really given. Jessica Biel, she was kind of 620 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,160 given, but she wasn't given, given these. 621 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,480 Girls, Jessica. Biel was eating them. 622 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,920 I just think this whole franchise is just they don't. 623 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:09,280 The final girl does it. Technically she she can twan. 624 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,200 Yes. Your thoughts on Lizzie? 625 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,880 No, I'm about to rent so I just got to just got to take it away. 626 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,760 Why was Lizzie kind of giving me I'm I'm still I'm trying to 627 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,240 remember this actress's name. I can't really let me remember 628 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,960 her name. Is it? 629 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:41,560 Is it she's a baby driver, She's the girlfriend. 630 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,880 Hello. Was it? 631 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:45,600 Was it? Lily Collins. 632 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:50,240 Yeah, it's Lily Collins. She's from Downton. 633 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,280 She's from Downton Abbey. Lily. 634 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,760 She was. Cinderella, yes, she was kind of 635 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,000 giving me her. But she was. 636 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,520 She was Lily James. OK. 637 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,040 Yeah, she was kind of giving me her like this. 638 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,320 This actor is like who was playing why am I flying to 639 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,840 Lizzie? Lizzie was kind of giving me 640 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,880 Lily James like in in this movie. 641 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:30,120 But her character though, she really was, she was kind of like 642 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,040 the Mac Guffin device in the movie. 643 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,120 That's. Wild. 644 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:43,040 Because do we they just needed something for I, I guess, 645 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:48,760 Jackson to latch onto and kind of help like help out, because 646 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:57,320 without her character there, like sure, they still would have 647 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:03,960 like the sheriff still would have been searching for like 648 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,000 Jackson or not Jackson or Jedediah and like whatever they 649 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,440 like, still would have been searching for him. 650 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,480 But it give Mace more so game something for like body for us 651 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:22,760 to like ground ourselves to and, you know, she was being nice and 652 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,160 and, you know, pretty like pretty pretty good overall. 653 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,520 So I don't know, I I I don't know, I thought once we got to 654 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:40,480 the end, like maybe she was going to be able to, you know, 655 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,320 snap something to him, but you know, she didn't have to comment 656 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,480 about the mom. So she she got she died 657 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,440 immediately, like immediately after, which I kind of hate it 658 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,480 for her. I kind of wish she had just 659 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,760 escaped after everything she she was going through at that point. 660 00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:01,720 But damn, like this I keep like even though she wasn't really 661 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,640 giving that much as you know, final girls, we kind of say we 662 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,920 we go through some of the movies. 663 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,280 This was kind of one of those instances. 664 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,800 I was like all right, I feel like she put her time in, let 665 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,160 all girl go, but now she just get her hair chopped off. 666 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,840 What the what the quickness? Honestly, I kind of figured she 667 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:26,240 wasn't going to make it 'cause I'm just like, she not Sally. 668 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,360 Yeah, yeah. She not Sally and she not family 669 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:37,080 or AKA gang so she got to go. I I will say that like having 670 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:43,480 Sally and like their their dad and like a quick scene was 671 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,000 actually pretty good. That was cool. 672 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:50,840 It was a cool little Easter egg. But what were you going to rant? 673 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,840 I I decided to let it go and we're going to no. 674 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:05,840 No. It's it's just they spent all 675 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,320 that time on Jackson making Jackson, like making us connect 676 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,760 with Jackson. But they kind of like, yeah, 677 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:19,000 yeah, Lizzie was there, but they wanted us to be connected to 678 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,160 Jackson. So when they pulled the wolf 679 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,680 from under the rug from under us, we'd be like, Oh my God, no 680 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,120 way. But I feel like that also caused 681 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,480 us not to care about Lizzie. Like, we knew the bitch was 682 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,840 going to get it. We we knew that. 683 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,080 And this franchise doesn't do final girls well. 684 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,320 Like even some of the worst. Friday 13th at at least a decent 685 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,800 final girl or final couple. And some of those Friday 13th 686 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,800 got real. Like Nightmare on Elm Street was 687 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,320 doing some crazy kooky shit towards the end, but at least 688 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:05,400 the final girl was given. You know? 689 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,200 Lizzie wasn't given. Nobody. 690 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:14,520 The women in this franchise don't give and it's not going to 691 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,720 change with the next movie either. 692 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:25,960 They all suck. So this is wait before we get to 693 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,000 Leatherface. This is our last prequel and the 694 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,720 next movie. I don't even know where the fuck 695 00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:31,520 that's. Another one. 696 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,920 The next movie I I forgot where that falls in and with with with 697 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:43,160 Curry Barker stepping in to to kick off at some point in the 698 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,520 future his his own tech take on Texas Chainsaw. 699 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,520 I just want him to start fresh. Can I be sincere? 700 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,240 Just in general? No, you know, I'll just, I'll 701 00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:57,840 give it. I'd rather he just say fuck the 702 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,520 family, let's just have Leatherface. 703 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,120 Let's just let Leatherface go balls to the wall. 704 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,200 We don't need to cook. We don't need like Leatherface 705 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,840 don't even got to be a cannibal. He just be some murderous crazy 706 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,840 person in Texas. We can drop the cannibals. 707 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,160 We can drop the Eden and all that shit. 708 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,640 What is it? They at this point they might as 709 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,320 well just make a fucking movie about Ed Gein who literally 710 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,520 inspired about this. I honestly would be more 711 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,360 interested in that the actual person who literally skinned 712 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,160 people alive and used their their their skin. 713 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,520 At this point, it's just like we. 714 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,280 Just got that. We just got that. 715 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,680 We did which one on? Netflix. 716 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:39,920 Are you serious? I'm a go watch. 717 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,160 It's a whole like 7 episode series for my I'm going to. 718 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,440 Watch. The team, but I'm. 719 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:49,640 Just saying at this point they couldn't. 720 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,040 Might as well just do that as a. Film, I mean, no, no, because 721 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,960 Leatherface is for some reason Leatherface is iconic. 722 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,760 So if you could just, if Curry Barker could just. 723 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,080 Inspired by. Him. 724 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,440 I mean yes, and so was the the guy from Science and Lambs, but 725 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,480 I would still rather see a Science and Lamb movie than 726 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,800 edgy. Hey, Silence of the Lamb wasn't 727 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,680 Was it started by Ed A game? Yes. 728 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,640 I don't know, I've never watched it. 729 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:19,360 My bad. Damn. 730 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,160 You've never seen Silence of the Lamb. 731 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,400 I have not, Should I go watch it? 732 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,600 No, we're going to review it at just just. 733 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,160 Wait, OK, OK. But I'm so shocked. 734 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:37,200 My rant was leading to if Curry Barker can just drop all the ACT 735 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,320 that all the excess, it just focus on Leatherface being a 736 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,840 killer and Texas what is chainsaw? 737 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:48,600 That'd be great 'cause I feel like the the main thing in all 738 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,920 these movies is that Leatherface is never consistent. 739 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,040 Even from the the remake to the prequel to the remake. 740 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,320 It wasn't really that consistent. 741 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:03,040 And then we get this Jackson Sawyer, Jedediah Sawyer, and 742 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:09,360 it's just like I'm wearing a rant. 743 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,480 I don't want to rant, but I'm I'm a I'm a fucking. 744 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,280 Man, did you lose connection or some? 745 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,480 Shit, no, I was trying to try to pause. 746 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,800 I was trying to stop myself with fuck it. 747 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,960 If you're going to make a prequel to a movie that has been 748 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:30,120 around for 40 years and you you I'm, I'm, I'm guessing you 749 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:35,360 probably should have watch that movie before you constructed A 750 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:40,200 prequel to that movie. And what did you watch in that 751 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,720 first movie to say, hey, when Leatherface was younger, he was 752 00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:51,280 suave, attractive, very intelligent and could be pulling 753 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:56,040 bitches and and it just be normal. 754 00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,960 What did what movie did they watch? 755 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,720 What made y'all look at Sam strike and say OK he going to 756 00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:10,880 grow up to be that guy in about 20 something years. 757 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,680 It doesn't even make sense. I can't picture how we get from 758 00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:24,640 where this movie ends in 55 to where we first meet Leatherface 759 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:31,280 in 74. I I don't get it. 760 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:37,240 I can kind of see how we got to where he was in Texas 3D. 761 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,720 Because after your whole family was murdered and your Mama put 762 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:44,960 you in and the grandmama, the baby. 763 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,800 Yeah, like they, they put you in like cat like it. 764 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,320 Like she put you away and hid you. 765 00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:53,920 You weren't captive, but you were in isolation. 766 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,600 Of course prolonged isolation fucks you over mentally. 767 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,200 I can see how we got to take how we got to there and Texas 3D. 768 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:08,560 But in the OG741 he's surrounded by two brothers, grandpa and 769 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,240 apparently Mama and the whole it's a mother extended family. 770 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,000 Like I don't get how it like were you just on the farm? 771 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,040 Was he just in the fucking the fields, working out, eating all 772 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,360 types of shit, getting big, getting tall? 773 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,880 It should make no sense. I don't, I don't get it. 774 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,360 Like if you told me this was from Texas Chainsaw 2, where he 775 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:42,800 kind of had a personality, I was like, OK, OK, maybe. 776 00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:46,160 No, it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense. 777 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,640 I don't get how this was. This is Leatherface. 778 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,600 Well, for the behind the scenes and following facts because 779 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:10,080 we're over this. The budget for this film was 780 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:15,040 reported around $500,000 have brought in a box office of 781 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:21,160 around 1.48 million worldwide. Other Phase was directed by 782 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,840 French film makers Julia Mari and Alexandria Bustillo, the duo 783 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,080 behind Inside released in 27th Sorry 2007. 784 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,320 The screenplay was written by Seth and Sherwood, and the film 785 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,160 was mostly filmed in Bulgaria rather than Texas, despite being 786 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,120 set in Texas. The film originally premiered at 787 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,440 Fright Fest in 2017 before receiving its US release, and 788 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,320 the movie is deliberately structured to make viewers 789 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,080 question which character will ultimately become Leatherface. 790 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,520 Stephen dorff played the Texas Ranger, Hal Hartman was personal 791 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,880 vendetta against the soy your family becomes a major part of 792 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:04,040 the story and extends into the Texas chainsaw 3D continuity. 793 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,560 Some critics reactions. The film currently sits at a 27% 794 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:13,440 of Rotten Tomatoes with a letterbox with A1 star on 795 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,080 letterbox, Hollywood Reporter stated. 796 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,720 Hollywood Reporter Steven Dalton viewed the film as relatively 797 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:23,400 respectful attempt of an origin story and praise performances 798 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:28,360 from Steven Dorf and Lily Taylor Variety varieties. 799 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,800 Benedict Seal called it a mixed bag, but felt his emphasis on 800 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,880 story over a non-stop core representing an attempt to steer 801 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,680 the franchise in a different direction. 802 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,840 William Bibiani of IGN was much harsher, arguing that the movie 803 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,080 acts a little to the franchise and criticizes predictability, 804 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,400 while Heather Wigston of Daily Dead praise elements including a 805 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,080 cinematography, practical effects, and Lily Taylor. 806 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,800 But felt the movie struggled to decide exactly what kind of 807 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,640 Texas Chainsaw family wanted to be. 808 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,680 Which I feel as though we all did. 809 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:04,880 But do we catch a pass mark? This is a pass. 810 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,760 This is a waste of my fucking time. 811 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,480 I don't know what this movie was. 812 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,640 I don't know what they thought it was going to be, but they 813 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,400 thought it what it was trying to be, but it didn't do it. 814 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,280 You it didn't do it. You failed. 815 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,640 It's a it's a failure. This who people directed this? 816 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,920 What was the script editor? What was the continuity check 817 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,480 person? Where what was the person who 818 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,000 hold the right saying? Hold up this is some bullshit. 819 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,240 We not doing this. Where are the people to stop 820 00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:37,280 this from being made? This don't make no sense. 821 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:45,600 I I don't get why this franchise is is held to high high esteem. 822 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:51,440 I don't get why Leatherface is is is mentioned in the same like 823 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,120 sentences as Michael Myers. Jason Ghostface. 824 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,600 Hucky the fucking leprechaun is better than Leatherface. 825 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,880 I'd rather be watching him with his fucking pot of gold in in in 826 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,800 the hood and in space then watch this. 827 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,600 Leprechaun in the huddle is good I. 828 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:14,760 Would rather watch at least the first four hell raisers made 829 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,120 sense and I can I can jive with Pinhead. 830 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,640 OK. I don't know why we care about 831 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,200 Leatherface. We don't care enough or even 832 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,200 know enough about Leatherface to get her prequel. 833 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,880 Actually that that's my main problem. 834 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,240 How can you give us a prequel by a character that we don't know? 835 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,800 He's been different in every in every movie. 836 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,800 He was only somewhat similar movie to movie. 837 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,800 And the prequel, I mean, and the remake and it's prequel. 838 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,360 Outside of that, it's been a different interpretation with 839 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,960 different personality traits every single time. 840 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,360 How can you give us a prequel? What character? 841 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,880 We don't know. You do that. 842 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,360 You do that. It's a pass. 843 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,040 I'm sorry. We're we're so glad that Mark 844 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,600 loves this movie. Elian, what do you think? 845 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,040 He's gonna pass. I'm passing it just because, 846 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:21,640 like there's no need. There's no need for another. 847 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,760 To be fair. I, I, I don't get it. 848 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,240 I genuinely do not. So like, that's about it. 849 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,160 And that's the only reason why I'm saying that I don't get it. 850 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,400 All right. And for myself, I will 851 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,360 definitely be passing on this film. 852 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,120 Yeah. It just does not really do much 853 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,760 for me to add to the existing franchise that we already have. 854 00:57:51,600 --> 00:58:00,400 Like we this movie is a prequel to the original film, but is 855 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:06,960 also a sequel to a new continuity. 856 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,760 Like we're we got we got a lot going on here and none of it 857 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,000 works. It really didn't need to. 858 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:22,160 The only thing that this film did for me was give more of a 859 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,520 reason for the why the characters will get what they 860 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:35,240 did and the the 3D movie. It's a Hartman family prequel 861 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,880 rather than a Leatherface prequel to be honest. 862 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:43,680 Yeah, like that's the only thing that this movie kind of did for 863 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,120 me was kind of agree with them 'cause that's about it. 864 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,960 But as far as being like a Leatherface, like Origin, yeah, 865 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,040 that part of it, I just don't really. 866 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,840 It doesn't, it doesn't do it doesn't do much for me here. 867 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,760 You know, they try to give us this fake out, but you know, 868 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:07,320 that whole thing doesn't really work for me because it wasn't 869 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:12,520 needed. So overall, not the the the 870 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,720 movie on like a visual thing, you know that part of is fine, 871 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:21,040 but like everything else, like story, character wise, that part 872 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,240 falls flat. Yeah, I just don't think it 873 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,400 sticks in that since I was so I I have to pass. 874 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,800 Well, with that, we have come to the end of our review of 875 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,320 Leatherface. Join us next week as we wrap up 876 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:45,040 the the franchise when we review X's X's Chainsaw Massacre, the 877 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,280 one that was released on Netflix, The Texas Chainsaw for 878 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,040 Gen. Z, or we like it or we hate it. 879 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,280 And our next week. Until then, goodnight. 880 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,520 If you like this episode, please be sure to check out some from 881 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,480 the Hatterfield Horror Cemetery, where we've covered big 882 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:15,200 franchises such as Friday the 13th, Halloween and Saw, or one 883 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,400 off reviews like The Blackening or Hereditary. 884 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,640 You can follow Hatterfield Horrors on Instagram and TikTok, 885 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,880 where the host post updates and many reviews. 886 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,200 Full episodes are available on several podcasting platforms, 887 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,240 including Spotify as well as YouTube. 888 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,480 If you're listening to us on YouTube, please be sure to like 889 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,160 and subscribe. The Hatfield Horrors Podcast is 890 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,720 produced by Mark Smart, Tawan Griffin and Elian Cordova, 891 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,440 deemed by Lethal Injection and edited by. 892 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:46,640 Mark Smart The Hatfield Horror Podcast is a letter to media 893 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,120 production. Should we do an intro?