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Are You Lonesome Tonight? 
Miss me tonight. 

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Are you sorry? 
We drifted does your mate? 

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We are recording. 
Hi! 

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Hey guys. 
Welcome back to significant 

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lovers. 
We took a break for the 

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holidays. 
It's 2023. 3. 

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Now is our first episode of 
2023. 

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We haven't seen you guys since 
last year, what's new? 

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That's crazy Mel and I haven't 
even courted. 

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You haven't seen each other in a
bit. 

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Yeah, we had not on purpose, 
getting on purpose. 

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It's just so, you know. 
But yeah. 

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She's busy. 
I've been busy. 

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We were sick. 
Yeah, I'm still like I'm fine 

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now. 
But like my voice is not back to

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normal. 
So I might be a little raspy. 

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But I was telling you now that I
always felt like Lindsay Lohan. 

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Had kind of raspy boys, 
interesting voice and the gunk. 

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It's cool that you're gonna have
a voice. 

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Maybe like that today. 
Yeah, I think so. 

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Might sound like I'm crying a 
little bit. 

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Big news. 
I quit my job guys. 

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Yep. 
So by the time you're listening 

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to, this will be my last week at
my job. 

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We are becoming full time. 
Podcast kidding, not yet. 

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That much money like my parents 
house. 

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Yeah, that's if we were willing 
to sacrifice that we can do it, 

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they would buy my food and 
stuff. 

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But yeah, if anyone's a hiring 
manager, if anyone's a recruiter

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and they're listening to this, I
have experience with like 

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project management and 
Publishing. 

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Saying. 
And yes, yes, I'm open to ideas,

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Mel does so much research for 
this podcast. 

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She does like, 99% of our social
media. 

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She's only nine of it. 
She, she's amazing. 

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So, and you can hear her awesome
personality in this episode, but

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also gets a little raunchy. 
Not safe for work. 

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So I feel like some people 
probably listen to the first 

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couple of minutes and then, but 
here's the thing it's like this 

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is what I've said to you before 
like everybody has that side of 

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their person, not everybody but 
it's like everybody loves off 

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and they're like somebody else. 
So it's like yeah like I'm in my

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corporate solve all the time. 
Yeah. 

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So that's so true Mal. 
I was thinking since it is our 

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first episode of the New Year 
it's kind of like a new Park at 

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us thinking. 
Maybe at the end of the episode,

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we could just quickly talk about
like our favorite episodes so 

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far. 
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The grease favorite that we 
hosted me? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, you know, stuff like that 

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but at the end at the end. 
So yeah we are cousins melon 

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Kel. 
I'm Co that smell. 

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And if this is your first 
episode welcome the people 

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upstairs are moving furniture 
around. 

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Wow yeah you might hear that 
weird. 

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In New York. 
So there's apartments and we're 

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trying a different room today 
though to record. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So should we get into it? 
Yeah, let's go. 

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So Today, we're talking about, 
we're talking about Lindsay 

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Lohan and Samantha Ronson. 
Who's that who's that? 

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Well, Lindsay Lohan and is an 
American actress and Samantha 

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Ronson is a musician and DJ and 
I have to tell you guys 

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something. 
Yeah. 

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Isn't this great? 
This is great because everybody,

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I think some of you might not 
even believe this. 

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Yeah. 
But I Where are my life? 

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I swear on Mel's life, I swear 
on my cat's life, you can ask 

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Charlie my boyfriend. 
Look him up. 

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He was there. 
I swear this happened. 

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So I have been doing research on
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the past month or whatever. 
And this was the next episode of

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the, we were going to record for
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And I recently went to Upstate 
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Charlie and we went to this 
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Of Hudson New York. 
We it was literally just like on

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and when we pulled over just to 
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because like really old 
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were like, oh, should we go 
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I don't know. 
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whatever. 
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So, he went his Farm Stand. 
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And then in walks, I swear to 
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That is so crazy. 
What are these hugs? 

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Like, you know, of all the 
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I know the exact time that you 
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Yeah, she walks it. 
So you just saw her walk in. 

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Yeah, I just saw her walk in. 
Did your jaw like I thought I 

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was gonna die. 
Like, I felt so scared. 

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Actually. 
I was like really, really, 

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really, really good. 
I was like hallucinate. 

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I think scared is the most. 

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I can't describe how I felt 
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literally thinking about them 
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Like, in the car, doesn't go out
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Like what am I going to say on 
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I think we were going to record 
it the next day. 

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Maybe I can try. 
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We were yeah. 
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you were, I was like yeah I 
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So we were literally going to 
record it the next day and it 

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was just freaky to me like we're
researching this couple and then

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I see her like what it was and 
wasn't even wasn't even like in 

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New York City or La it like you 
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expect to see someone like that.
It was just this little Small 

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Farm Stand. 
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It was her. 
She walked in. 

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She had the short. 
She has short bleach, blond 

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hair, she's wearing skinny jeans
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And I'm not, and so careful in 
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to her. 
Charlie said, I should say 

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something to her. 
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So I didn't say anything and I'm
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But I thought I was scared and 
really freaked out by like the 

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coincidence and just II felt 
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God. 
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happening and I'm sure people 
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walk up to her that often. 
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pretending to look at some 
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at her and she like made eye 
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And she this is what happened. 

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This is what I observed. 
She got some cider donuts. 

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She went up to the cashier. 
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something and then he says 
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like, where do you guys get? 
These, were they baked and then 

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he said, and then that's 
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I like her curiosity. 
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friendly. 
I feel so geeky, I'm not even. 

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You just walked up to her. 
You're like, hey, this is really

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weird, but I'm currently 
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researching you and I have a few
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Yeah, it's survival. 
How did you and Lindsay meet? 

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Because I couldn't figure that 
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No, I oh my gosh Samantha. 
If you're listening, I'm sorry. 

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This is creepy. 
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creepy that he's talking, you 
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That was like oh my God, like 
observing her and is currently 

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researching her do is we read 
out the like there's been so 

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many weird coincidences with 
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It's insane is why I do. 
Think there's a higher power. 

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Power. 
I know I do because there's 

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like, literally let's walk 
through it like Well, 111, this 

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doesn't sound that big but like,
I was just listening to some of 

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our old episodes today, just to,
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things. 
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Lynn is more. 
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that was pretty low stakes 
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about that. 
Like, right? 

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When we recorded it, like, two 
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weird. 
And then, like 20 years, there 

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was an overlap with her more 
Alanis Morissette. 

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Oh yeah, Carradine. 
Gotten Elena's tattoo. 

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Yeah. 
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Camilla. 
When we were like when we were 

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recording it right before 
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king. 
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I mean died who else? 
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the oh yes in Sudeikis one. 
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the whole Nanny stuff came out 
that she came out. 

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Yeah, I kind of canceled that 
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So weird, this is like and to 
me, that's like a sign. 

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From Lake God, if you believe in
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like, this is episode that you 
were supposed to come here, you 

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know? 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
It's just crazy. 

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I don't know what like if if 
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someone is weird that they the 
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someone that you've never even 
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President. 
That's manifesting. 

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Well, I don't know you're gonna 
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I need Crown. 
He's scary huh? 

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That would be freaky to see 
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Um, yeah, I can't believe it 
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way, too, late, reading, all 
these articles about like 

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coincidences. 
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I've had a couple other 
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there's been some crazy 
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history and it's like, wow I do 
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connected and we welcome to 
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That's really interesting. 
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I totally believe in signs me to
there's been so many crazy 

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things like twins separated at 
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life basically. 
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Like you know there's just all 
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scare me but amazing too. 
And I don't know, this is just, 

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um, I was so freaked out. 
I honestly felt like there was 

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like my life before this 
happened after. 

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Yeah. 
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Honestly. 
I feel like that was like, I 

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don't know. 
Like a revelation like that. 

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Like, oh, okay, gotta this is. 
Yeah, this is crazy. 

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So thank you so much. 
She seems. 

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Okay, I'm gonna get into the 
Kabul, the relationship and 

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Samantha. 
Hope you're not listening. 

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I feel bad that know why we're 
not going to say anything bad 

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about, you know, getting into 
her personal life. 

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And we so weird to listen to a 
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relationship. 
Oh my God, probably so many 

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things would be like, that's not
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Yeah, but I just I was a I know 
that Lindsay Lohan, pretty much 

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everyone knows who she is. 
Samantha Ronson. 

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I didn't really know much about 
her before this, but I love her.

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I love that. 
It's so cool. 

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I think. 
And just seeing her in real 

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life. 
She's, I mean, yeah, it was like

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10 second not ten seconds. 
It was like a minute, but she 

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seemed really cool and nice. 
So she's a DJ right? 

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Yeah. 
She's a DJ. 

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Yeah. 
So yeah. 

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Do you remember when 10 hand and
Samantha Ronson? 

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And I think it was like, Not a 
big deal which is like kind of 

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surprising for that time period.
Like I feel like people just 

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were really accepting as they 
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were in like, oh, wow. 
Like Lindsay's guy like no one 

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really cared, you know. 
I think not. 

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Everybody was I accepting base. 
No really. 

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But yeah. 
When the way I remember it is 

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because we were like in Middle 
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Yeah, I remember being like a 
little confused because I don't 

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know, I just think back then I 
didn't fully understand people 

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being bisexual or whatever and I
was like, wait what? 

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It. 
But my perception of it is 

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because that was like the height
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to. 
So like my protection of it 

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though was like that. 
They were bad influences for 

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each other. 
Yeah, we'll get into that, more 

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good. 
That isn't interesting. 

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I've been telling some people 
that this is the episode I'm 

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doing next and some people like 
our age. 

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Don't remember that they ever 
dated. 

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Oh really, what? 
My mom remembers though. 

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So yeah. 
My mom does yeah I feel like the

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Lindsay's life was so chaotic 
that back then was so chaotic, 

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her dating life was like the 
least of anyone's like interests

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literally. 
That's what Samantha said 10. 

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She said that like something 
like the everything in her life 

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was so crazy that possibly being
gay or whatever was like the 

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least crazy the yeah yeah. 
Lindsay Lohan. 

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Oh my gosh. 
She so she has been kind of out 

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of the spotlight for like the 
past decade. 

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I would say she's like popped in
and out. 

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Yeah. 
But she's only holiday movie. 

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Actually just came out with this
new Christmas movie. 

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I washed it. 
Did you watch it not yet? 

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I wasn't gonna watch him and 
Charlie was I heard this music 

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playing in the other room and it
was Christmas. 

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Music is like what the heck is 
that? 

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And he was watching it by 
myself. 

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Like what the hell? 
So I sat down and watched it, 

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um, It's cute. 
It's not the best mood though. 

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You've never are but it's like 
it's cool to see her again. 

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I don't know. 
I really liked her when I was 

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young. 
We I think we both did. 

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We loved her are used to see 
every single Lindsay Lohan movie

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Beloved Mean Girls Parent Trap 
Freaky Friday. 

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Herbie Fully loaded with your 
boyfriend. 

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Said that that was the most 
iconic Lindsay Lohan movie. 

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Yeah. 
You were you were like no. 

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Okay, this is I think it's a 
fact is not not. 

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Yeah. 
I think that's factually. 

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Inaccurate. 
Confessions of a drama queen? 

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Yeah, I even thought like just 
my luck. 

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Oh yeah. 
I've seen that one. 

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Got a clue one more there. 
Vic is one more for you. 

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Do you say Freaky Friday 
already? 

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Yeah. 
I didn't see George or rules. 

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You neither seen that? 
She was in one. 

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I don't think I ever thought 
called, okay. 

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Now, I feel like it's cousin 
deck. 

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Yeah. 
She's an addict and she was in 

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one. 
I forget the title, but she like

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pretends to be pregnant. 
Oh yes, a labor pains. 

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I think it's called, yeah. 
Wait, till we say life-size. 

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No, that's a good one. 
Yeah, I can't find that movie 

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anywhere just stream. 
Hmm, yeah, that's interesting. 

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I think that didn't even come up
in my research at all, but I 

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guess I was feeling like when 
she's older. 

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Yeah. 
So, So I guess it's time to get 

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into the romance and the drama 
and I hope you're not listening.

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Yeah. 
This this couple I think is the 

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craziest couple I have covered 
so far. 

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Really? 
Yeah, I think we have a lot to 

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learn. 
We are talking broken windows 

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talking jail time. 
Oh no, it's crazy. 

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Yeah. 
What are your three words? 

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My three words, I came up with 
if I had to describe Lindsay and

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Samantha and three words would 
be dramatic sweet, huh. 

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And turbulent. 
Okay. 

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Mmm. 
Sounds right. 

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Yes. 
Yes. 

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Yes. 
It's very crazy. 

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So what I found interesting is a
lot of Publications or when you 

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just Google like how long did 
they date? 

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I feel like everywhere says one 
year but to me it seems like 

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they were together kind of off 
and on for a couple years from 

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like Thousand Seven to 2011. 
Yeah. 

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The other lot longer than 
people, I feel like Google 

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simplifies things. 
Yeah, I know. 

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Yeah but even like when I read 
articles they'll say like oh 

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they're together for a year but 
I think they're actually 

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together much longer. 
Yeah, Samantha let us know if 

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that's true. 
Yeah, yeah, so after I saw her 

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in the forest and we went back 
in the car. 

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Okay. 
This was crazy cousin Samantha 

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when her car and the car was 
like next. 

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Oh my God. 
Don't look, but I swear to God, 

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that is Samantha Ronson in that 
car, that's so weird. 

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And then he's like, you should 
go say something. 

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I was like, No One's Gonna Go 
tap on the window, whatever. 

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And for he did say, I shouldn't 
mention that I was recording and

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that's what we say. 
I'm a big baby. 

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I know I wasn't DJ. 
Yeah, that wouldn't really be. 

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I don't know. 
I didn't say, yeah. 

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I feel like I was freaking out. 
She's a famous person. 

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But yeah, it's not someone that 
people would say. 

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Like, I'm a big fan of. 
Yeah. 

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You know, I was losing my mind. 
I couldn't say anything. 

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Remember, the one time we were 
recognized? 

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Yeah, we were recognized. 
Yeah, that was the coolest 

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thing. 
I've, yeah, that was the last 

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night also proof that God 
exists. 

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Unless yeah, that was my God 
exists Liz, right Liz? 

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Yeah. 
In Williamsburg. 

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Yeah, that was so nice. 
What are the odds? 

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I know you don't have that big 
of an audience so that was just 

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crazy. 
If you guys ever by chance. 

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Recognize us. 
Definitely say some. 

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Yeah, don't be like, oh, they 
get this all the time. 

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We don't have nothing going on. 
Yeah, definitely say something. 

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Don't don't be so sad if someone
did recognize. 

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What? 
I wonder if something happened. 

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I don't know. 
Probably not. 

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Yeah, we do get recognized it 
for old podcast, another bite of

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Twilight. 
We did get recognized at the 

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Twilight festive exact that was 
kind of like a dick smell the 

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first compliment. 
No one really recognize does 

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that was kind of. 
That was actually more shocking,

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I needed that but that's okay. 
So Lindsay, Lohan and Samantha 

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Ronson Lindsay's. 
It interesting person to me, I 

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found her kind of difficult to 
Grass. 

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Yeah, she seems like a bubbly 
flirty and funny person, but I 

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also think that just after 
watching all these interviews 

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with her and things that seems 
like famous made her pretty 

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private. 
And she often like shuts down 

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and certain questions or won't 
answer things not in a mean way.

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It seems like she's like develop
boundaries and reason. 

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Yeah, she needs that. 
Yeah. 

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But anyway, Lindsay Lohan, she 
was born, July 2nd 1983. 

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Six in the Bronx and grew up on 
Long Island. 

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And her father, Michael Lohan. 
Apparently was also a former 

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child actor, but I couldn't even
find. 

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I didn't know that. 
Yeah, but I couldn't find 

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anything about what he was in. 
So question mark. 

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But he had many different 
careers. 

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He owned a pasta restaurant. 
He worked as a Trader on Wall 

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Street. 
I guess her mom, Dina Lohan, 

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anyone remember? 
Yeah. 

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I guess you used to be a 
Rockette. 

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And she also worked on Wall 
Street and later she became 

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Lindsay's manager. 
Lindsay has three younger 

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siblings, Michael Ally in Dakota
AKA Cody and Dakota is about 

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like ten years younger than 
Lindsay and she seems really 

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close to Ali, her sister. 
And I randomly looked up Dakota,

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I don't know why, and he posts, 
lots of pictures with Lindsay 

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and he seems really sweet. 
He's always saying things like 

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Lindsey's. 
Like my best friend for life. 

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I never smile more than I am 
when I'm with you. 

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Yeah, half-sibling Orville's 
impulsive. 

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Well, yeah. 
So it's cute. 

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This is also really random and 
not like a fact, which is an 

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observation. 
I just feel like her siblings. 

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I'll have like, dark eyes, and 
dark eyebrows, except for her. 

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Yeah. 
Her brother, Michael was in The 

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Parent Trap. 
Yeah, the boy. 

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That's like, I thought this was 
a girl. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
They just, I just think they 

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look like a beautiful family, 
but I got their problems. 

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Yes, that's what I was about to 
say, but they have a lot of 

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issues at least they Did at the 
time. 

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Um her parents divorced in 2007 
which is right around the time 

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when her relationship with 
Samantha started and her father,

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Michael Lohan was imprisoned for
insider trading and he served 

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another year for violating 
probation, which is something 

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that spoiler Lindsay ends up 
serving time for herself like 

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father like daughter. 
Yeah. 

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And he was also arrested for 
attempted assault on her 

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brother. 
Michael jr. 

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That's bad. 
And it's alleged that Her father

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is told stories about her to 
tabloids so much. 

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It's just tragic. 
Yeah, she has a music video, 

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like confession. 
Yeah. 

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What's it called? 
I can't. 

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It's something about like, 
Father David? 

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Yeah, yeah, it's for the love of
a daughter's. 

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I don't know. 
So sad, there's a lot of news 

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stories about the dad like he 
had a lot of issues. 

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Yeah, getting arrested. 
And yeah, but I can't get into 

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the whole thing because you 
could do like a whole Episode 

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about the parents, but it's 
really, really sad. 

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I feel like she didn't have a 
good support system. 

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Yeah, I've heard things about 
like her mom also like being her

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manager, but kind of, you know, 
using Lindsay. 

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I mean, she was a child actor. 
Yeah. 

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And she would have really bad 
fights with her mom, too. 

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And one time they even fought so
badly that 911 was called on 

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them. 
So I'm really weary of like, any

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parents who put their kids into 
show business because I feel 

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like you're just like setting 
them up to be. 

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Abused. 
Yeah, it makes me sad because I 

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feel like Lindsey didn't really 
stand a chance to, you know, 

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have a normal. 
Yeah, since and, you know, have 

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a healthy relationship to things
like alcohol because her parents

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were just so crazy and using her
and she probably had no one to 

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really trust. 
It's it's sad but it's really 

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sad. 
So yeah, as a kid, she started 

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in print and tv ads, when she 
was 12 years old, she played 

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both leads in the pan. 
Ant trap. 

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I haven't watched that in 
forever. 

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I think I watched it last year. 
So good, and whenever you want 

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him. 
Yeah, when she really proved to 

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be a great actress at a young 
age, in 2003 at age 17, she was 

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a star Freaky Friday. 
And that's around the time for 

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did Aaron Carter. 
Oh yes. 

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Rest in peace. 
But I thought it was funny. 

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I read that. 
She dated Aaron Carter after he 

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did Hilary Duff it. 
Supposedly got bored of her. 

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Yeah, there was a whole food 
with Lindsay and Hilary. 

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She made fun of Hillary on SNL. 
I remember watching it like live

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at the time? 
Yeah she seemed to have some 

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foods with people. 
Yeah. 2004 she was in Mean Girls

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her. 
I would say my most iconic role 

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not heard, I think so dad. 
But that's also when she 

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released her album, speak with 
the song, Rumors whole lot of 

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rumors can see where it's like 
I'm tired of being restarted, 

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I'm sick of being followed. 
Tired of people lying saying 

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what they want about me. 
Why don't you back up off me? 

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I can't be. 
Let me live. 

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Just wanna do it my way, take 
this for just what it is. 

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I remember I just love just for 
so like I was in fourth grade. 

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I think in the gym at my 
Elementary School were walking 

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into this, like social. 
Yeah, I don't even know what it 

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was called because the parents 
were there too, but feeling so 

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cool. 
I literally love that album, eat

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food like she should. 
Continued on with her music 

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career. 
I am actually ashamed to say 

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because it's so different from 
my music taste today in my 

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Elementary School yearbook they 
I put that my favorite musician,

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wasn't I love that. 
I love that. 

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I thought she was going to be 
big like, in the music scene. 

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I know. 
Yeah, I don't know what 

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happened. 
She also sorry is love Baxter 

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but she also dated Builder 
Valderrama when she was 17 and 

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he was 20. 
A for, and what's weird is she 

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brought that up many times 
interview. 

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She was, she's like, I'm 17, 
he's 24. 

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What can go on there? 
Nothing really? 

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Like she said that like, okay, I
hope he comes. 

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That's kind of his thing. 
I know many times. 

460
00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:23,800
I also lost money on Ellen to 
said, because Ellen says 

461
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,200
something like you have a 
boyfriend, right? 

462
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,200
And she's like, yeah, I'm 
getting Wilder Valderrama from 

463
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,300
That 70s Show. 
I don't know why it was funny to

464
00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:34,200
you. 
That in case people don't know 

465
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,000
who he is. 
Yeah. 

466
00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:37,900
So yeah that was interesting to 
me. 

467
00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:42,000
But then she was in for Herbie 
Fully Loaded in 2005, then 

468
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,900
Prairie Home Companion. 
I also haven't seen that many of

469
00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:49,200
them, but then around 2006, just
my luck. 

470
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,500
This is when her off camera. 
Exploits started to overshadow 

471
00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:59,300
her acting two had all these 
feuds between her and like Paris

472
00:25:59,300 --> 00:26:03,200
Hilton and she's starting to 
become known as a A partier and 

473
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,000
I think people kind of stopped 
seeing her as you know just a 

474
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,600
talented actor. 
Yeah and I also I thought it was

475
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,800
really interesting doing this 
research. 

476
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,200
I discovered that she's really 
into Marilyn Monroe. 

477
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,000
She kind of idolizes her and I'm
like glad that we did the 

478
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,800
Maryland episodes if it gave me 
more of a perspective on this, 

479
00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:29,100
she had a fashion line I guess 
around this time and named her 

480
00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:35,000
leggings in the line 6. 6126 
after Marilyn Monroe's birthday.

481
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,000
So like 26 being 1926 and she 
has a to Marilyn Monroe's 

482
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,600
tattoos on her arm and she even 
posed nude for a magazine 

483
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,600
dressed to resemble Marilyn 
Monroe. 

484
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,000
And I saw these pictures of her 
like, her birthday party with 

485
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,200
Samantha Ronson and like her 
cake had Maryland on it. 

486
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,600
Like, she loves Marilyn and I 
find it interesting because I 

487
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,400
see like a lot of similarities 
between her and Marilyn Monroe. 

488
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,500
And yeah. 
And started randomly Megan Fox, 

489
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:10,000
who talked about this to Esquire
and I just I liked what she 

490
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,200
said. 
I agreed with it. 

491
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,500
Megan Fox. 
I don't know why she's talking 

492
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:15,700
about Lindsay but she said are 
they weren't Confessions of a 

493
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,400
Teenage Drama? 
Oh really? 

494
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,500
Yeah, I didn't remember that 
Megan Fox is in that. 

495
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,700
She said, I started reading 
about Marilyn and realize that 

496
00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:25,300
her life was incredibly 
difficult. 

497
00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:28,300
She wasn't powerful at the time.
She was sort of like Lindsay. 

498
00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:31,900
She was an actress who wasn't 
reliable, who almost wasn't sure

499
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:33,800
about. 
She'd had all the potential in 

500
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,900
the world and it was squandered.
I'm not interested in following 

501
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:40,400
those footsteps and I guess 
later Megan apologize. 

502
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,600
Yeah it seems like it does. 
I know but the problem I know 

503
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,400
and insisted she hadn't meant to
degrade it criticized Lindsay 

504
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,500
but I do agree with her like 
that. 

505
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,500
It reminds me of. 
I don't know that once he did 

506
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:56,400
have so much potential but then 
she started to like just like 

507
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,800
Marilyn like show up late to 
things and yeah wasn't it 

508
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,500
getting serious roles like she 
wanted to to and yeah, yeah. 

509
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:06,800
Like Lindsay's is literally a 
phenomenal actress looks so 

510
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,800
good. 
I don't know. 

511
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,100
Now if she's that good but like 
she could have won an Oscar 

512
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:15,000
someday. 
I know maybe she still will 

513
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,900
baby. 
I used to think that I I don't 

514
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:22,300
know why Hollywood is is way but
I feel like they kind of act 

515
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:24,800
like you can only have like one 
of a certain type at a certain 

516
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,500
time, you know what I mean? 
Yeah I remember thinking that 

517
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:29,600
Emma Stone kind of like replaced
Lindsay. 

518
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,700
Lohan. 
Oh my God, that's so true. 

519
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:34,700
That's so true. 
She was in like The House Bunny 

520
00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:36,400
and then like easy a I feel like
easy. 

521
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,300
I could have been like a Lindsay
movie. 

522
00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:40,500
Yeah. 
And then Emma became more like 

523
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:43,300
of a serious actress which I 
think was. 

524
00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:46,300
He always wanted to do? 
I don't know. 

525
00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:48,500
That's so true. 
Hmm. 

526
00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:52,000
Yeah. 
Am I even felt like with the 

527
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,400
Maryland thing? 
This sounds bad, but I don't 

528
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,400
mean it in a bad way that I kind
of see Samantha as kind of like 

529
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,100
a Joe DiMaggio in a way, not in 
the hitting way. 

530
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:04,400
Yeah. 
But in just, the Samantha is 

531
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:10,000
more quiet and like reserves. 
And I don't know how 

532
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,500
uncomfortable the tension also 
older than Lindsay and, like, 

533
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,600
always there for her if she's 
older. 

534
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:18,100
She looks younger. 
Yeah, she's older. 

535
00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:21,300
Um, And then also I just get the
sense that she's like, always 

536
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:23,900
there for Lindsay. 
So yeah. 

537
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:30,600
So who is Samantha Ronson? 
Yeah, is this chick, she is a DJ

538
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:35,500
and she was born in London to 
the Ronson family, which was 

539
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:39,400
formerly one of Britain's, 
wealthiest families and founders

540
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,800
of hair on International a 
British property development 

541
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,600
company. 
That's why she can be a DJ but 

542
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,900
the family definitely still 
wealthy but the family Lose 1 

543
00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:52,600
billion dollars of their wealth 
in the property. 

544
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,200
Crash of the 90s, how a lot of 
money, they lost a billion 

545
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,000
dollars but we're okay. 
Yeah, I guess I don't mean, I 

546
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,800
don't know how, okay? 
But yeah, they were kiddos 

547
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,700
great. 
Her parents are Lawrence Ronson,

548
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:08,800
who was a music, manager, and 
publisher and then real estate 

549
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,400
developer. 
Has he done? 

550
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,800
No, I think he's alive, but I 
don't know if he still do that. 

551
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:20,400
Yeah, her mother and Dexter 
Jones, Jones is a writer 

552
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,200
designer and socialite. 
Samantha has an older brother. 

553
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:29,700
Mark Ronson and Twin Sister. 
Charlotte Ronson and their 

554
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:33,700
family is Ashkenazi Jewish with 
ancestors from Austria, Russia 

555
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:37,000
and Lithuania which I thought 
was interesting and they were 

556
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,500
raised conservative Jewish and 
it seems like Samantha still 

557
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:45,800
practices Judaism today. 
So happy Hanukkah Samantha? 

558
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:47,900
Yeah, we're recording this over 
Hannah. 

559
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:50,900
Yeah. 
But her parents divorced when 

560
00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:54,300
she was young and her mom and 
remarried, the guitarist Mick 

561
00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:59,500
Jones from the band Foreigner 
and her family moved to New York

562
00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:02,200
City when she was six years old.
So her unless he grew up 

563
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,300
actually like, not far from each
other Mick. 

564
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:09,200
Jones, her dad herb. 
Mom's new husband already had 

565
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,200
two kids. 
So now she had two steps of 

566
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,200
siblings then. 
Anna Mick had two more kids. 

567
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,000
So now she's two new 
half-siblings, then I heard my 

568
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,000
dad, remarried and had three 
More kids. 

569
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,200
I was you thought the people 
will not happen. 

570
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,600
Now there's ten kids, that's a 
lot. 

571
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,800
I know while growing up in New 
York, Mark Ronson became 

572
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,000
childhood friends with Sean 
Lennon. 

573
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:37,900
Wow who we mentioned on this 
show before and I think do you 

574
00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:41,100
know the name of Mark Ronson? 
Yes I was going to say that's 

575
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:44,700
very familiar is really 
successful musician. 

576
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:48,900
Yeah he is. 
That's her brother. 

577
00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:49,800
Yeah. 
That's her brother. 

578
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,800
Her older brother asked. 
Yeah, he's won seven Grammys 

579
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,200
including producer of the year 
for Amy Winehouse's album back 

580
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,500
to black his song Uptown funk. 
You probably know. 

581
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:02,500
Yeah. 
It's actually his song not Bruno

582
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:04,300
Mars. 
It's like Uptown Funk featuring 

583
00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:05,800
Bruno. 
That's a really like that's a 

584
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,000
classic. 
I know. 

585
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,600
Um yeah he did. 
Amy Winehouse is whole album 

586
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,500
with her like rehab and that 
song like Valerie. 

587
00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:18,100
That's his song, actually what? 
Yeah, and he also won an Academy

588
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:22,900
Award and golden gloves for 
writing the songs for stars born

589
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:25,000
like shallow. 
Are you serious? 

590
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,700
Yes. 
And he's done like so many 

591
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:29,600
people's records. 
Like he did Lily Allen. 

592
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,600
I didn't know that was her 
brother, brother. 

593
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,000
That's crazy. 
He's done everybody. 

594
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,300
You could have caught up to her 
and said, oh my big fan of your 

595
00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:40,600
brother. 
That be offensive. 

596
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,800
I don't know. 
I could have said something, but

597
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,700
I was just too shy. 
Hmm, I don't blame him. 

598
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,100
I'm ashamed of myself. 
No, what do you say? 

599
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:55,600
Like, I don't know. 
Yeah, but he's insanely 

600
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:58,800
successful, so that's 
interesting. 

601
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,700
And in her twin sister Charlotte
is like a fashion designer to 

602
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,200
Townsend family. 
Mmm. 

603
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:10,400
So, Samantha said that she was a
loner as a kid and She had most 

604
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,100
of her friends from her twin 
sister Charlotte and she does 

605
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:18,400
seem like a quirky quiet type of
person like just watching 

606
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,700
interviews with her and stuff. 
She seems to have like a really 

607
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:27,500
sarcastic dry sense of humor. 
And she collects toys and 

608
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:31,500
vintage t-shirts and yeah, she 
seems really quirky and she 

609
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:37,300
writes like lyrics and poems and
stuff and yeah, so I believe I 

610
00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:39,400
can believe that that she was 
like a loner as a kid. 

611
00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:41,300
Sometimes I feel like when 
people say stuff like that I'm 

612
00:33:41,308 --> 00:33:43,100
like, is that true? 
Yeah. 

613
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:45,500
Oh my God yelling Kendall Jenner
says stuff like that. 

614
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:47,100
Like I was bitch. 
Shut up. 

615
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:52,900
Yeah, you probably popular. 
Yeah, so she went on to play 

616
00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:56,700
guitar and DJ like following her
brother's footsteps. 

617
00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:59,500
Totally went to the Chapin 
school on the Upper East Side, 

618
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:03,200
which is very prestigious. 
Kind of like Gwyneth Paltrow 

619
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,000
ask, but she definitely grew up 
to have like a different vibe 

620
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,400
from Mmm. 
Gwyneth she study. 

621
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,600
Creative writing and philosophy 
at NYU. 

622
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,500
She became a full-time DJ for a 
living and his DJ'd actually 

623
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:20,199
really high profile events. 
Like the New Year's Eve 

624
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:24,699
celebration in Times Square. 
Super Bowl, Sundance and Cannes 

625
00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:30,500
Film Festival, an amazing VMAs. 
So yeah, she also sings and 

626
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:33,100
plays guitar to and she's been 
in two bands. 

627
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:36,400
One Samantha Ronson in The 
Undertaker's & Ocean Park, 

628
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,800
standoff, and you might know 
this song buy her, that was on 

629
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,199
the Mean, Girls soundtrack built
this yards. 

630
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,500
We were to call and built this. 
Do it this way to play it. 

631
00:34:47,900 --> 00:35:00,600
Wait, I used to listen to this. 
Did you? 

632
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,100
Hold this song, they have their 
email, but when this came out, I

633
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:38,000
don't think they had met but I'm
not sure. 

634
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,100
They could have I was trying to 
see if Samantha went to the Mean

635
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:44,100
Girls Premier anything, but I 
didn't see any pictures are 

636
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:45,500
many. 
Yeah, because you don't know 

637
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:48,100
when they met, right. 
I actually don't know how they 

638
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:48,800
met. 
Yeah. 

639
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,100
But isn't that crazy? 
She's on the Mean Girl soon. 

640
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:53,800
Yeah. 
That yeah, again, God God. 

641
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:57,600
And That is like the main song 
in that movie that is please 

642
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,900
like throughout the whole movie.
Yeah. 

643
00:35:59,900 --> 00:36:02,300
We cool. 
They'll always be connected that

644
00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:04,500
way, you know. 
But yeah. 

645
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:07,100
So that's Samantha. 
That's kind of all the 

646
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:09,400
background information I have 
about Samantha that that I'll 

647
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,400
share today. 
Obviously there's more more they

648
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,900
could be said but I just want to
say before I get into the 

649
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:17,100
relationship there was some 
stuff going on with Lindsay 

650
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:20,400
around that time that I feel 
like it's good to keep in mind 

651
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,800
that when he'd been to a drug 
rehab program, in 2007. 

652
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,000
And was arrested for drunk 
driving charges. 

653
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,300
And then she went to rehab a 
second time and was fitted with 

654
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:34,400
an alcohol monitoring monitoring
bracelet. 

655
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:37,200
And then two weeks, after 
checking out of that rehab, she 

656
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,500
was arrested again for trying to
run someone over apparently 

657
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:42,700
while she was drunk. 
Oh my god, dude. 

658
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:47,200
He entered rehab a third time. 
She pleaded guilty for 

659
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,800
misdemeanor cocaine use and 
driving Under the Influence. 

660
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,800
She served one day in jail, 10 
days of community service. 

661
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,700
And three years of Probation and
she had to pay a fine and turn 

662
00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:03,200
alcohol, education program that 
lasts DUI, but I just mentioned 

663
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,600
in cocaine. 
Possession is the first time 

664
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,700
Samantha Ronson is mentioned in 
the Press with her. 

665
00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:11,400
Oh, really? 
She was with her? 

666
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:13,000
Yes. 
Yeah. 

667
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:17,900
So this is the first mention I 
found out Samantha Ronson. 

668
00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:23,400
It was in a Metro UK article 
from March 29th, 2007, and it 

669
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,300
says that Lynn He was arrested 
on Saturday for possession of 

670
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:31,100
cocaine after crashing her, 
Mercedes convertible, but was 

671
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:35,000
back on the tiles, the next 
evening at the 944 magazine 

672
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,000
party at Teddy's Nightclub at 
The Roosevelt Hotel sources told

673
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:43,200
In Touch magazine Lohan was 
defiant about her arrest and can

674
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,200
to continue to party. 
She was later. 

675
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,300
Photographed on her knees 
seeming. 

676
00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:50,100
Like throwing up in a bush 
before passing out in a car 

677
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,900
driven by her. 
DJ friend Samantha Ronson. 

678
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:54,800
Oh, DJ friend. 
How old is she had to? 

679
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:58,300
A point. 
So when I first started dating 

680
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,500
which was actually in 2008 
Samantha was 30 and Lindsay was 

681
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:05,100
21. 
Oh wow. 

682
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:09,400
Yeah, she was 30, she's great. 
I know my God she's like deep in

683
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,500
her 40s. 
Yeah she does. 

684
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:12,800
She does. 
Look great really. 

685
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,900
Looks like she's like 25. 
I know crazy. 

686
00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:19,100
Yeah. 
So this actually is blew my mind

687
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:21,600
because you know, that picture 
of Lindsay that is so famous. 

688
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,800
It's like her passed out in a 
car leaning back. 

689
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,200
Yeah, with the hoodie. 
Yeah, Samantha's in the car and 

690
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,900
that P is. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

691
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:35,300
Zoomed out picture of that. 
Like the actual full picture 

692
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:40,200
Samantha is there she has like 
her arm behind the car seat. 

693
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,800
Headrests and yeah Smith was 
driving Lindsay like the fact 

694
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,100
that like people see someone 
like struggling like that and 

695
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:51,500
then they take a picture. 
That's so like it's crazy how 

696
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:56,300
that's accepted. so yeah, I 
guess that they were already 

697
00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:59,200
friends at this point so that I 
don't know when they started 

698
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:05,200
hanging out, you know I couldn't
figure it out but They were 

699
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:10,700
still at least like publicly 
just known as friends, but I 

700
00:39:10,707 --> 00:39:14,000
don't know if they actually were
romantic at this point, maybe 

701
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,600
they were, I don't know. 
But yeah. 

702
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,500
Um, that's summer 2007, 
apparently, the two were 

703
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:23,000
commenting flirty things on each
other's, Myspace accounts. 

704
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:30,900
And then Lindsay had some more 
issues makes me sad. 

705
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:38,200
She In November 15th, 2007 
served just 84 minutes at a Los 

706
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:43,400
Angeles, County jail, right? 
I'm not totally sure why, but 

707
00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:46,800
the surf, I mean, I'm guessing 
like drinking and driving. 

708
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,700
Yeah, that one that keeps 
happening but the sheriff 

709
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:52,500
explained that the jail was 
overcrowded, which is why she 

710
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:56,300
was only there for 84 minutes. 
Also, probably, because she's a 

711
00:39:56,308 --> 00:39:58,000
celebrity. 
Yeah, Jim. 

712
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:01,600
This is not related, but I don't
even know actually cut this out,

713
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,900
but I'll just tell you at least 
milk. 

714
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:06,700
Um, that January 2008. 
That's when he's Ledger died. 

715
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,300
Oh yeah. 
And her own mother said that 

716
00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:12,400
Lindsay was with him when he 
died. 

717
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,300
So really? 
Yeah, that's weird. 

718
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:19,000
I never heard that before. 
He was dating Mary-Kate Olsen. 

719
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:23,600
Wow, we're Ashley. 
I think Mary-Kate Olsen, I don't

720
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,100
know what was going on there, 
but I don't know. 

721
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:29,300
I, I just think Lindsay's life 
was crazy. 

722
00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:33,800
Yeah, yeah, you know honestly 
like we were To talk about this 

723
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,800
a couple weeks ago, like to 
think back on like the time. 

724
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,800
Like when I partied the most in 
my life. 

725
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,300
Yeah. 
Be like my freshman year of 

726
00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:43,300
college. 
Like, I can see how someone 

727
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:45,000
could easily get addicted to 
that. 

728
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,500
Like if you have like, 
obviously, like I could have 

729
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:50,100
never gotten addicted to that 
because my parents, like would 

730
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:52,800
have killed me. 
But like her parents like that. 

731
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,600
Yeah, so true. 
They probably like, didn't 

732
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,500
really care. 
Like, I don't know, like, not 

733
00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:00,500
that you cannot parents that are
strict and like still like, get,

734
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:03,000
like really caught up in that 
kind of stuff, but it's probably

735
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:06,400
As long as she was making money.
And yeah, and our should 

736
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,900
everyone around her say yes. 
Like, she had nobody to like, 

737
00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:11,200
say no to her. 
Yeah, it's like about that with 

738
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,100
you because I I feel like when I
do these episodes I always try 

739
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:17,800
to like really put myself in it 
and like empathize. 

740
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,600
And I was having trouble 
relating to Lindsay because I've

741
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,400
just this is so not my life but 
I when I did think of it like 

742
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,200
okay imagine you're crazy this 
time in your life. 

743
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,600
If any of you have ever I don't 
know. 

744
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:31,800
Engaged in any partying, maybe 
you haven't. 

745
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,800
Maybe it was just Time you 
pulled all-nighters or 

746
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,800
something? 
I don't know. 

747
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,600
But yeah. 
Definitely time in my life there

748
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,000
was like one week in particular,
my friends and I like got a 

749
00:41:42,008 --> 00:41:44,600
beach house and we drank every 
single day. 

750
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,000
Yeah, and night and it was 
crazy. 

751
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,500
And like we were getting in 
fights and all this drama 

752
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:54,400
happening, it was so stupid and 
it was super messy, but I was 

753
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,600
just imagining like okay what if
my life just kept going like 

754
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,900
that? 
Yeah. 

755
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:01,100
I was like, I think like oh why 
did we stop? 

756
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:04,700
You know, because we all felt 
like we We had to shaping up for

757
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:06,500
college. 
I want it. 

758
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:08,700
You know, have a future. 
Yeah. 

759
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,800
Like, our life depended on us, 
like just getting our shit 

760
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,900
together, but Lindsey already 
had like a ton of money. 

761
00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:17,900
Probably, she already had been a
star in movies. 

762
00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:20,600
You didn't have that pressure to
like get her shit together. 

763
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,500
You know. 
That's so true and everyone 

764
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:26,900
around her like you said, is 
doing this to, and when you, I 

765
00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:29,400
feel like with actors, like she 
works on a movie for like, a 

766
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,400
couple months and then she just 
has a couple months of like, 

767
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,600
yeah, thing, no structure. 
And yeah, No structure and she's

768
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,300
so popular. 
Everybody wants hangout Lynn? 

769
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:38,900
Yeah, so everybody is like 
inviting her to parties. 

770
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:43,100
Yeah, I mean if you go to 
parties every day I think it is 

771
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:47,200
it can be really hard to go to 
party sober so I can see just oh

772
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,500
drinking. 
I I really struggled to go. 

773
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:51,200
Yeah, party. 
So breathing now. 

774
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,800
Yeah, it's hard. 
So I don't know when I thought 

775
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,700
about it that way. 
It was like, I guess I can see 

776
00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:57,400
how. 
Yeah. 

777
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,200
And it's an Escape like 
especially it's a, it's I mean, 

778
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,700
it's rooted in alcoholism 
obviously, like If you like need

779
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:08,900
that as an escape from reality 
like yeah, it's more acceptable.

780
00:43:08,900 --> 00:43:11,900
Obviously to be drunk at a party
and really drink by yourself. 

781
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:16,900
So yeah, so true. 
When I've had like a really good

782
00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:21,400
party like a really good party. 
I think the next day I want to 

783
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,700
do that every minute of my life.
Yeah. 

784
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:26,800
Like I wish I could just be 
partying 24/7. 

785
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,100
He probably went to pretty 
awesome parties. 

786
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:31,900
Go did you awesome parties in 
her? 

787
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:36,700
Awesome Shooters. 
And Look up here - yeah 

788
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:40,600
listening or any like party 
people. 

789
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,000
Like what's a job that you like 
just go to be a person at a 

790
00:43:44,008 --> 00:43:47,000
party. 
Wait really no? 

791
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,300
Yes, I'm girls get paid just to 
go to parties, right? 

792
00:43:50,300 --> 00:43:54,000
Maybe I would do that job. 
Yeah, I mean are people whose 

793
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,500
jobs is to be like kind of a 
what do you call that? 

794
00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:01,700
There's guys that basically just
bring girls to clubs and like 

795
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:03,100
serve drinks. 
Oh yeah. 

796
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,200
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

797
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,700
What they call that promoters? 
Yeah. 

798
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:08,300
Promotion. 
Yeah. 

799
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,200
Yeah. 
It's a lifestyle and Lindsay was

800
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,300
in it at this point. 
Okay, we have another mention of

801
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,200
Samantha Ronson the friend. 
Okay. 

802
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,300
This is April 14th, 2008. 
People magazine. 

803
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:26,100
The headline is Lindsay, Lohan's
BFF weekend with Samantha 

804
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:29,700
Ronson. 
This reminds me so much of 

805
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:31,700
Kristen Stewart. 
Yeah gal pal, yeah. 

806
00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:33,500
When she first started dating 
women? 

807
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:36,400
The Publications like didn't 
know what was going on. 

808
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,200
Yeah. 
Case do and her gal, pal. 

809
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:41,800
Holding hands. 
Yeah. 

810
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,700
Um, okay, so the article says, 
Girls Just Want to Have Fun and 

811
00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:49,200
Lindsay. 
Lohan is no exception, the 21 

812
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,600
year old actress who is sued 
last week by former bodyguard, 

813
00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:55,700
spent the weekend, hitting the 
hottest clubs in l.a., with her 

814
00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:58,800
good pal, DJ Samantha Ronson. 
The duo got a jump start on the 

815
00:44:58,808 --> 00:45:02,100
weekend Thursday night, when 
they hit the upstairs, VIP area 

816
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:06,400
of Goa Lohan, who has said, 
she's back on track after 

817
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,400
stints. 
In rehab, bop to the music is 

818
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,300
Ronson's money. 
In the DJ booth. 

819
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:12,800
Lohan was obviously having a 
good time dancing. 

820
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,200
Very sexy says an onlooker. 
She was quite the center of 

821
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,600
attention. 
The next night it was all about 

822
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,800
foxtail, Lohan, sat at a table 
near the dance floor, nursing a 

823
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,000
bottle of Voss. 
Well, Ronson worked the room 

824
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,000
saying, Hello to friends later, 
they snuck a few cigarettes at 

825
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,600
their indoor table. 
And finally, to round out the 

826
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,700
weekend, they hit Teddy's at The
Roosevelt Hotel. 

827
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:36,100
Hollywood. 
Roosevelt Hotel on Saturday. 

828
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,200
Ronson headed back to the DJ 
booth while Lohan. 

829
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,100
Black tank dress in black boots,
chatted, with friends at a 

830
00:45:42,107 --> 00:45:45,200
nearby table, the actors kept 
things low-key, but perked up 

831
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,400
noticeably, when Ronson spun 
Madonna and Justin Timberlake's 

832
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,300
new single four minutes. 
Mmm, and later, during Mariah, 

833
00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:55,700
Carey's touch my body Ronson, 
threw her arms around Lohan and 

834
00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:59,000
The to move to the music. 
Sweet. 

835
00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:05,300
I'm wondering if they met me 
because Samantha DJ'd at all 

836
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:07,300
these clubs. 
Yeah, that makes sense. 

837
00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:11,500
Yeah, maybe I don't know. 
No, that's a lot of us. 

838
00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:13,300
Like three days in a row of 
party. 

839
00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:15,500
Yeah. 
Jeez. 

840
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:25,300
We can go to New York? 
Yeah, I wonder if this is all 

841
00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:28,400
outdated because it's 2008 but 
I'm like who seems like everyone

842
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:33,300
goes to Teddy's. 
Yeah, they still do but okay. 

843
00:46:34,300 --> 00:46:37,700
This is May 23rd 2008. 
This is when it first comes out 

844
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:41,800
that there's like more than 
friends during and the headline 

845
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,000
that I saw for this was I think 
it's from Daily Mail, it's 

846
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,800
Lindsay, Lohan's lesbian, kiss 
with Mark Ronson, sister in. 

847
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,800
Can I feel like today that went 
on how would not be the way that

848
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,900
you free? 
Yeah, so it's said that Lindsay 

849
00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:03,900
and Samantha were seen kissing 
crazy on P, Diddy's party yacht.

850
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:07,300
Can with pictures and they did 
look in the pictures. 

851
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:10,900
I do look really happy and 
smiley holding hands and the 

852
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:15,400
article called Samantha her 
girlfriend in quotations and DJ 

853
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,200
friend. 
Yeah. 

854
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,100
So it seemed like they were 
still like skeptical yeah. 

855
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,400
Rest like what's going on here 
and that you see a lot of that 

856
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,700
like the weird terms, I almost 
really because she's partying so

857
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:32,800
much people are being oh well 
she's making out with a woman 

858
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,500
like she's That's what girls do 
when they're drunk. 

859
00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:37,600
Yeah. 
Yeah, I think that's true. 

860
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,300
I think I saw articles like 
that, May 29th. 

861
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,500
So, a couple days later, 
Samantha and Lindsey were seen 

862
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:49,400
in New York together and they 
were getting lunch with Lindsay 

863
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,300
sister alley and they looked 
really giggly and happy and 

864
00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:55,800
sources were saying that they've
been together for about a year 

865
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,600
at this point. 
So that's interesting. 

866
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:02,700
Good chunk of time. 
Yeah, June 13th, 2008 Lindsay 

867
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:05,900
and Samantha were with Billy. 
Lee Allen and apparently all got

868
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:09,700
dinner together in LA. 
And I remember back then because

869
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:11,200
I was a huge fan of Billy 
Island. 

870
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,600
I also remember Lily happened, 
like a reputation for being a 

871
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,800
partier. 
Mmm. 

872
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,800
Yeah, quite a trio There When I 
See You Smile. 

873
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,800
Yeah. 
When I see you smile. 

874
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,900
No. 
Want to see you cry. 

875
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:28,100
Oh yeah. 
Makes me smile. 

876
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:30,900
She were, she gone? 
I feel like I haven't heard 

877
00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:33,700
anything from her. 
Yeah. 

878
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:39,300
I know she because I was a huge 
fan and like I listen to all I 

879
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:41,700
have listened to all her albums 
but her recent ones. 

880
00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:45,500
I don't know. 
They just had, it's hard for a 

881
00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:46,600
bitch. 
Yeah. 

882
00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:49,700
Those Sheezus album that was 
like the last one that I was 

883
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:51,800
young, too. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

884
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,700
She actually is no. 
I think she's married to what's 

885
00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:57,500
his name. 
Well, he plays Hopper on 

886
00:48:57,500 --> 00:48:59,300
Stranger Things. 
Yeah. 

887
00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:04,500
He's like pretty famous these 
days. but, Yeah. 

888
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:09,100
It's really hot but anyway back 
to 2008, by the way, I love 2000

889
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:11,400
right here. 
So my, oh my God, I mean we got 

890
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,700
Lily Allen on Twilight. 
Why I like yeah. 

891
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,800
That's just great time MGMT. 
My fav band that's when they 

892
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,500
came out. 
Is it great time to be alive? 

893
00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:28,700
Yeah. 
Okay, so July 18th. 2008, 

894
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:32,400
Lindsay and Samantha were out 
seen out hand in hand and 

895
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:38,500
they're both wearing fedoras. 
New York, such so 2008, and 

896
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:41,700
Lindsay's. 
Mother actually said she 

897
00:49:41,700 --> 00:49:45,800
approved the relationship. 
She said in an article, if she's

898
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,400
happy. 
I'm well, it doesn't sound that 

899
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,700
approving, but she's like, if 
she's happy, I'm happy, that's 

900
00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:54,600
all I'll say. 
Samantha's great, I've known her

901
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,900
and her family for ten years. 
Samantha is an angel, oh, so 

902
00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:00,500
they might go even further back,
maybe. 

903
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:08,000
And I gotta say, I was shipping 
them like all these pictures. 

904
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,600
They look so cute. 
I don't know, once he looks so 

905
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,600
happy and it's keeps he's mad 
because it's like, Samantha 

906
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,800
often seems a little serious. 
So, whenever you see a picture 

907
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,600
of her smiling with them D, it's
just so cute. 

908
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,400
But New York Magazine, wrote an 
article called the diminishing 

909
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,600
returns of faux lesbianism. 
Claiming that Lindsey was faking

910
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,500
it. 
Really Lee, I'm where they 

911
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:35,600
decide I'm not their Blaze, 
right. 

912
00:50:35,900 --> 00:50:42,600
There was like, actually she 
later did say that there were a 

913
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,100
bunch of Articles saying like 
that she was doing it for 

914
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:49,000
attention or whatever have you 
ever thought someone was faking 

915
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:57,900
being gay for attention? 
No. 

916
00:50:57,900 --> 00:51:01,600
But I know what? 
No, I'm trying to start a thing 

917
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,300
myself. 
Like I feel like there's like 

918
00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:06,100
maybe once I did think that but 
I can't think of a particular 

919
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:08,200
incident. 
Yeah. 

920
00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:11,500
No, I don't think I've I think 
some people do like, some people

921
00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:13,400
do. 
Like I'm not going to. 

922
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,700
It's not my place to say anyone 
yanking it, but some people 

923
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:20,700
definitely like, especially when
I was in college exaggerate it. 

924
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:23,600
I've yeah. 
Yeah, I think I've known some 

925
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,900
people. 
I don't think they were faking 

926
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:27,600
it but they just like tried it. 
No, yeah. 

927
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,400
That's not what I'm Taco. 
What are you talking about 

928
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,200
missing people? 
Who would like you guess what, 

929
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,800
you call an out as queer bait 
because they want to like they 

930
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,000
want to be like yeah. 
Okay. 

931
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,100
Yeah, sidered it but like their 
know it's not my place. 

932
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:41,500
Yay. 
I know what you mean? 

933
00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:47,300
Like someone that had maybe like
one's the same sex and counter 

934
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:49,100
and then they just like, keep 
bringing it up. 

935
00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:51,400
I've kind of actually, I kind of
did that. 

936
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,300
College because I already well I
just hated. 

937
00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:59,800
Hmm. 
I feel like I would just like 

938
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,600
make jokes all the time about 
like oh like I'll just become a 

939
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,900
lesbian. 
I like oh yeah, yeah, but you 

940
00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:06,300
didn't mean it but I didn't mean
it. 

941
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:11,100
I'm like not pretty straight but
I don't think anyone would be in

942
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:14,400
a relationship with somebody. 
No exact faking it. 

943
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,000
Exactly. 
This is kind of what I know I 

944
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,000
can trust. 
A good question to ask is like a

945
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,600
lot of Articles were saying she 
was faking and it's like, wait, 

946
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,600
does anyone actually do that? 
Yeah, I don't like anyone fakes 

947
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,900
being well, people fake being in
a relationship. 

948
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:35,000
I don't think someone would make
it that far. 

949
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,500
Yeah, I really like in the 
podcast when we ask you is like 

950
00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:44,000
philosophical ethical question. 
Yeah, I mean we gotta Wonder 

951
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,400
they're saying you're like yeah,
do people do it may be but I 

952
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,900
don't, I don't, I actually, I 
don't know what mean we don't 

953
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:54,100
know what went You thought at 
the time, but I don't think it 

954
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:56,800
was fake at all. 
Definitely not because it gets 

955
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:02,400
like it just gets so crazy. 
July 28th. 2008 Lindsay was 

956
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,000
apparently hit by a motor bike 
during a night out with Samantha

957
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,100
in New York and was taken to the
hospital because of like 

958
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:11,800
pedestrian. 
I think so. 

959
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:13,700
Actually, you know what? 
I don't know. 

960
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,800
I'm not sure how I don't think 
it was serious, but I think it's

961
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:23,700
again, like, oh, crazy night. 
Yeah, but Hit by a motorbike and

962
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:28,500
that same month Samantha posted 
a pic of the two of them kissing

963
00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:34,800
on her. 
Myspace page, August 2008. 

964
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,600
It was reported that Samantha 
was writing a book, but I don't 

965
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,600
think that's ever came to 
fruition. 

966
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,900
I don't think she ever a book, 
but Lindsay's Father, Michael 

967
00:53:45,900 --> 00:53:48,900
Lohan, said to the Press about 
this. 

968
00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:51,400
I've shut up about this long 
enough. 

969
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,500
She's using my daughter. 
People, never even knew Samantha

970
00:53:54,500 --> 00:53:58,200
Ronson until she met Lindsay. 
She was just some La DJ and now 

971
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,000
she's writing a book. 
I'm at wit's end with this 

972
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,100
stuff. 
Oh my God is not in Lindsay's 

973
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:05,100
best interest. 
Let's just say, I hope when this

974
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:08,000
starts opening her eyes and 
realize it's who the people 

975
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,500
using her. 
Are the pot, calling the kettle 

976
00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:11,300
black. 
Yeah. 

977
00:54:12,700 --> 00:54:14,100
But his daughter in Show 
Business. 

978
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,100
Yeah, and it has, it's been 
reported. 

979
00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:23,400
I mean, I don't know if it's 
true that he He sold stories 

980
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,000
about Lindsay. 
Yeah yes. 

981
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,300
So he just didn't want to share 
the attention. 

982
00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:31,200
Probably probably he was nervous
that Samantha would say 

983
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,400
something bad about him to. 
Yeah, probably probably 

984
00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:38,900
September 11th. 2008 Wired 
Magazine had an article about 

985
00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:43,200
Samantha Ronson and it said that
she doesn't have a publicist and

986
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,100
she typically doesn't respond 
much to what's written about 

987
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:51,400
her, but she occasional events 
on her blog and she on her. 

988
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,300
Log was like fact-checking the 
New York post's page, six 

989
00:54:55,300 --> 00:55:00,000
account that she wasn't in town 
when the paper said that her and

990
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,000
Lindsay. 
It was like some stupid thing, 

991
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,600
like skipped, her sister's 
birthday party or something, and

992
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:09,200
Samantha row, every now and went
out. 

993
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,800
She didn't write this Samantha 
said in the article every now 

994
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,100
and then something pisses me off
enough that it's like smoke 

995
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:18,700
coming up from the keyboard. 
Ronson said miming fear is 

996
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:22,100
typing on the MacBook Pro that 
heretofore been controlling, the

997
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:25,300
mixed being able to write 
exactly what she wants to say, 

998
00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:28,100
cuts through the BS. 
She said, no. 

999
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:32,000
That's like, all I had seen so 
far of like, her in Put on 

1000
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,600
anything. 
They actually hadn't officially 

1001
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,800
confirmed that they're dating 
yet, but then September 24th. 

1002
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,200
2008 Lindsay did say she was 
dating Samantha Ronson. 

1003
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,500
So this is when it's like, 
official, yeah, but they've been

1004
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:47,200
together for like, what year and
a half now? 

1005
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:53,300
Yeah, September 2008 throw lots 
of, sightings of them, two of 

1006
00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:57,800
them out and about holding hands
kissing shopping together like 

1007
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:02,300
way too many things to share. 
But so so so so many As of them 

1008
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,700
September 29th, 2008. 
This is from sadar magazine, 

1009
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:12,300
which I don't think can be 
trusted, but Let's just read 

1010
00:56:12,300 --> 00:56:17,600
what they said. 
It said the real crisis came 

1011
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,600
after Lindsay and her girlfriend
Samantha Ronson attended the 

1012
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,600
launch of the clothing line of 
Sam's Twin Sister. 

1013
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,900
Charlotte on September 6th 
Lindsey threw a tantrum and 

1014
00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:30,200
wanted to fight a girl who was 
talking to Sam a second source. 

1015
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,300
Told the magazine I don't think 
we can really trust Star 

1016
00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:37,700
Magazine but there are later on 
so many reports of Lindsay being

1017
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:40,600
like really jealous. 
Hmm, I don't know. 

1018
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,800
Hmm, October 2008. 
They were seen riding the New 

1019
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,000
York subway together. 
Apparently, they went to a DJ 

1020
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:53,000
equipment store. 
In SoHo November 2008, they were

1021
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:59,100
photographed kissing in the DJ 
booth and Lindsay told US Weekly

1022
00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:01,600
about Samantha. 
She's a wonderful person in the 

1023
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:06,300
hello and I love her very much 
and she also said I was going to

1024
00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:08,700
clubs all the time and it was 
not okay. 

1025
00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:10,700
I was so alone, I'm a different 
person. 

1026
00:57:10,700 --> 00:57:13,400
Now I'm B. 
And when asked, if she considers

1027
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:18,700
herself bisexual she said maybe?
Yeah, then answered. 

1028
00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:22,300
No and asked if she was a 
lesbian, she said, I don't want 

1029
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:24,400
to classify myself. 
First of all, you never know 

1030
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,400
what's going to happen, 
tomorrow, in a month, a year 

1031
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,800
from now, five years from now, I
appreciate people and it doesn't

1032
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,800
matter who they are. 
I feel blessed to be able to 

1033
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,700
feel comfortable enough with 
myself that I can say that. 

1034
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,200
And she says, she'd like to 
marry eventually but whether it 

1035
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,700
will be up to a man or woman, I 
don't know. 

1036
00:57:43,300 --> 00:57:47,200
She's So Young at this point. 
It's a weird even ask. 

1037
00:57:47,207 --> 00:57:50,100
This is how it always reminds me
of. 

1038
00:57:51,200 --> 00:58:04,700
Yes, but no, I was going to say,
I don't know what's gonna happen

1039
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:13,800
but I don't know. 
I wonder how Don't know what 

1040
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,400
Samantha thought was going to 
happen from their relationship. 

1041
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,200
Maybe she did think it was just 
a fun thing, but that would be 

1042
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,400
kind of weird to hear. 
She says, like, you never know 

1043
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,900
what's going to happen tomorrow 
in a month, a year from now, 

1044
00:58:24,900 --> 00:58:26,900
five years from now, kind of 
implying. 

1045
00:58:26,900 --> 00:58:29,600
Like she could be with him man. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1046
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,700
That's so true. 
As if you were really in love, 

1047
00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:33,800
you'd be like I'm not even 
thinking about it now. 

1048
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:36,000
That's person. 
I'm gonna be with ya. 

1049
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,900
It is the reality of the 
situation that you really truly 

1050
00:58:38,900 --> 00:58:41,400
never know what's gonna happen. 
But you're not supposed to say 

1051
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,100
that figure in love. 
Of your right there. 

1052
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:50,900
Probably is the reality but it 
is odd to say it like oh this 

1053
00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:55,300
yeah, serving me for now it's 
serving me right now. 

1054
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,500
Yeah, if I was dating someone 
like madly in love is almost 

1055
00:58:59,500 --> 00:59:01,300
yeah. 
And they said this is serving me

1056
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:03,700
right now tomorrow. 
I don't know. 

1057
00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:07,100
I would I would I would freak 
out row up. 

1058
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:12,000
Yeah I don't lose it. 
I would act the way Lindsay 

1059
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,200
asked. 
Her in this episode. 

1060
00:59:14,500 --> 00:59:20,200
Um, also November 2008 Samantha 
and Lindsey were in Paris in a 

1061
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:25,700
Peta activist through flower, at
Lindsay for wearing, fur will 

1062
00:59:25,700 --> 00:59:27,400
shake. 
I wasn't wearing it right then, 

1063
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,800
but she, the person went through
it. 

1064
00:59:29,808 --> 00:59:31,800
At hers was like, she's a full 
hog. 

1065
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:37,000
What do you think about people 
do that before? 

1066
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,200
I answer. 
Let's see, them. 

1067
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,100
Exclaims. 
Oh my God, it's just so funny 

1068
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:43,500
like hear her. 
Voice. 

1069
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:46,700
I don't know. 
How would I think of people? 

1070
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:49,300
I don't know. 
I don't know Mel. 

1071
00:59:49,300 --> 00:59:50,600
What I think about that one. 
Yeah. 

1072
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,500
I feel like I don't have an 
opinion. 

1073
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:58,300
I mean it's like I don't wear 
for hmm mostly because I can't 

1074
00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:00,600
afford it or leather. 
Yeah. 

1075
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,000
But like, I think it's a waste 
of money to spend money on that.

1076
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,300
I don't think animals should be 
killed for accessories, but I 

1077
01:00:07,300 --> 01:00:10,500
eat meat. 
So, I get there cause I think 

1078
01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:12,800
that's nice but I also don't 
like, like, harassing people. 

1079
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,300
So I'm not sure how I feel. 
Yeah, I feel like it's kind of 

1080
01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:17,800
effective. 
Like, I feel like if you're a 

1081
01:00:17,808 --> 01:00:21,400
celebrity. 
Yeah, in that happens to you, 

1082
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,800
you would think twice about 
wearing it again. 

1083
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,100
And I feel like, especially if 
you have a lot of influence that

1084
01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:32,600
could help you but am I correct?
I don't know who the Vibes. 

1085
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,700
What people think about the 
Vibes right now but I feel like 

1086
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:37,900
Peta was much bigger and some 
people don't like Peta. 

1087
01:00:37,900 --> 01:00:41,300
I think it is like really why? 
I don't know. 

1088
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:48,000
I just remember 2008 Peeta was a
lot stronger presence. 

1089
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,500
I remember my friends wearing 
Peta shirts and stuff. 

1090
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:56,600
Yeah, I just like, do animal 
abuse, I don't know. 

1091
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,300
Yeah, that happened in Samantha 
was there when that happened. 

1092
01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:05,800
My God. 
Oh my God, and the girls like 

1093
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,800
she's a fire. 
Hug machine runs away. 

1094
01:01:13,300 --> 01:01:16,000
Yeah. 
It would be very embarrassing 

1095
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,500
but I don't know but you're 
going to be fine. 

1096
01:01:18,500 --> 01:01:22,200
Yeah you just powder I do think 
secondhand. 

1097
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,500
Fur is fine. 
Yeah I agree. 

1098
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,400
You're not supporting the 
industry. 

1099
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,600
Yeah I agree. 
Yeah it's already out there. 

1100
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,100
Yeah and I mean it's better for 
the environment. 

1101
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:37,200
Exactly. 
Get some plastic faux fur thing 

1102
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,100
that's so true. 
You know. 

1103
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:45,600
But what if Like that supports 
you and people buy it and yeah 

1104
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,500
you so but no I agree. 
You're right. 

1105
01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:51,700
If someone was wearing like SEC 
it was like Nikki Reed in that 

1106
01:01:51,700 --> 01:01:54,200
episode that we didn't for the 
Twilight podcast. 

1107
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,500
She said that she had like a 
good pair of leather boots and 

1108
01:01:56,500 --> 01:01:58,100
like she liked in support 
wearing. 

1109
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,400
Yeah, leather and fur but like 
she'd already had them. 

1110
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,200
She gonna get them away. 
Yeah, I know that wouldn't be 

1111
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,200
good. 
November 21st, 2008. 

1112
01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:11,800
It just back into them. 
This is according to the New 

1113
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,300
York Post. 
Apparently, the two are at a 

1114
01:02:15,300 --> 01:02:19,100
show, Sam was doing in Dubai 
which is foreshadowing because 

1115
01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:23,300
Lindsay now lives in Dubai. 
Um, when he walked up to the DJ 

1116
01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:26,600
booth and screamed, how many 
more songs, how long is it going

1117
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,600
to take for you to pack up? 
And it said that they were 

1118
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,200
fighting, like cats and dogs, 
they fight every day. 

1119
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,000
Screaming crying yelling at each
other. 

1120
01:02:35,300 --> 01:02:38,200
Sam and Lindsey are still very 
much together and very much in 

1121
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,500
love with the drama. 
Just seems to follow Lindsay and

1122
01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:43,300
Sam hates it. 
She deals with Lindsay every day

1123
01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:46,800
and every day, Sam means. 
And every day for Sam means 

1124
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,600
questioning is this worth it? 
Okay. 

1125
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,500
I don't know if there's like 
some embellishment there seems 

1126
01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:57,000
like there dramatic, sizing it a
bit but this next thing I have 

1127
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,700
actually kind of seems similar 
to that January 1st 2009. 

1128
01:03:01,700 --> 01:03:05,200
It seems like there was a lot of
tension while Samantha. 

1129
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:10,500
Dang, this is that New Year's 
Eve at the mansion in South 

1130
01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:14,700
Beach in Miami. 
I believe and there's a video of

1131
01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:19,000
it and Lindsay runs up to Sam 
and the DJ booth and is like 

1132
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,800
she's yelling something but you 
can't really tell what she's 

1133
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,000
saying, but seems like she says,
like, why are you? 

1134
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,600
Um some people think she says, 
why are you playing this? 

1135
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,600
Because the song playing is 
womanizer by Britney Spears two 

1136
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,100
feuding with Brandi. 
I think she may have been and 

1137
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:36,800
there. 
The report that she had a crazy 

1138
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:41,700
fight yelling later that they 
had a crazy fight yelling later 

1139
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,300
and broke things in the hotel 
room and that Lindsay was 

1140
01:03:45,300 --> 01:03:47,600
yelling things like when I stole
them off, you're supposed to 

1141
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:52,600
follow me but then 10 on her 
blog that all this wasn't true 

1142
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,800
and she linked to her song 
Rumors. 

1143
01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:01,100
No it's a good cop. 
Yeah I love that song. 

1144
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,200
I want to show you the video 
that you can't really use a 

1145
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,200
video. 
There's a video. 

1146
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,900
You can't really tell what's 
going Going on, but what they're

1147
01:04:06,900 --> 01:04:11,900
saying? 
But yeah interesting is Sam had 

1148
01:04:11,900 --> 01:04:16,400
her arm around Lindsay at first 
but then has Lindsay started 

1149
01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:20,100
yelling at her something. 
She put her arm away. 

1150
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:22,200
Yeah, you can see the body 
language. 

1151
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,600
Mmm. 
This kind of Raising arms up a 

1152
01:04:25,607 --> 01:04:28,300
little bit like what? 
And yeah, she's like, I'm 

1153
01:04:28,300 --> 01:04:29,600
working. 
Yeah. 

1154
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,000
He's like mad about a song. 
Think these dogs? 

1155
01:04:34,300 --> 01:04:36,000
I don't know if that's why I 
don't know. 

1156
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,700
That's it's hard to tell what I 
lifestyle will get boring. 

1157
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,100
But again moaning. 
Yeah, it did seem like she said,

1158
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:45,000
why? 
But like I don't I don't know 

1159
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,600
what Lindsey said, we don't 
know, but there was tension. 

1160
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,900
And then there was a report that
they were fighting later. 

1161
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:55,600
So I don't know. 
January and February 2009. 

1162
01:04:56,300 --> 01:04:59,800
There were sightings of the two 
of them nearly every day 

1163
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:04,700
traveling, or DJing, or out, and
about partying, or shopping 

1164
01:05:04,700 --> 01:05:06,100
ever. 
They were together all the time 

1165
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:13,400
on Valentine's Day, 2009, there 
was an article on Gawker, very 

1166
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,800
snarky, Gawker. 
That the headline was Lindsay, 

1167
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,500
Lohan, fights with girlfriend in
first hour of Valentine's Day 

1168
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,100
and this is by Ryan Tate and it 
says, Lindsay Lohan's 

1169
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:27,200
Valentine's Day. 
Go off to an awesome start at 

1170
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,100
1:00 a.m. 
Saturday a fight on the streets 

1171
01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:32,300
of nolita trailed by Paparazzi 
and a reporter for the New York 

1172
01:05:32,300 --> 01:05:35,000
Post adding new details to an 
earlier. 

1173
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,300
Post item, Justin rocket 
Silverman blogs that he was 

1174
01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:41,300
outside a party for Charlotte 
Ronson of the Eldridge. 

1175
01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:43,700
And he saw Lindsay, Lohan and 
her girlfriends. 

1176
01:05:43,700 --> 01:05:46,300
Made the Ronson storm out a 
scowl on. 

1177
01:05:46,500 --> 01:05:50,100
Face Lindsay soon followed 
chasing after Ronson Silverman 

1178
01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:51,400
soon. 
Followed notebook. 

1179
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,100
In hand following the fighting 
couple by just a few steps. 

1180
01:05:55,800 --> 01:06:00,300
This makes me feel better about 
creepiness guys following them 

1181
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,200
at one point Samantha stopped in
the middle of Houston Street and

1182
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,000
said something in a whisper what
are you? 

1183
01:06:06,008 --> 01:06:07,800
Talking about treats Lindsay and
response. 

1184
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,800
I've been with you all night. 
A couple disappeared into the 

1185
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,500
Bowery hotel and Silverman. 
Did some reflecting. 

1186
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,600
This is the guy Silverman 
writing this, as I strolled 

1187
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,300
away, I was struck by two things
first, how painful it must be to

1188
01:06:21,300 --> 01:06:25,400
have a lover Ronson, who is so 
much older and probably more 

1189
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,700
emotionally mature toy with your
heart. 

1190
01:06:27,700 --> 01:06:32,000
In mind second, how identical 
Lindsay Lohan, screamed screams 

1191
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,000
sounded to the drunken female 
cries. 

1192
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,200
I her I hear every night outside
my East Village window. 

1193
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,500
As we read Silverman's, post 
post, we were struck by two 

1194
01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:45,900
things first, how painful yet. 
Mi piercing it must be to have 

1195
01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:50,000
Intrepid reporter document ones.
Inaugural Valentine's blowout. 

1196
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,200
Fight. 
Second, why was I pin up like 

1197
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,700
Silverman working on the gossip?
Be on Valentine's still single, 

1198
01:06:55,700 --> 01:06:59,900
apparently sigh. 
Anyway, I don't know why he 

1199
01:06:59,900 --> 01:07:05,400
assumes that. 
Samantha Ronson who's older is 

1200
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,900
toying with her heart and mind. 
Yeah, I feel like a conclusion. 

1201
01:07:09,900 --> 01:07:13,200
He just drew himself but I don't
know. 

1202
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:17,800
I really well I'm getting at is 
like It's just like, really hard

1203
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,900
to maintain any like stability 
and their relationship when 

1204
01:07:20,900 --> 01:07:23,600
there's not like stability with 
like mind and body. 

1205
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:28,900
Yeah, like using substances. 
So it does seem very chaotic. 

1206
01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:32,800
It's like, every day there's 
yeah party and it's like 

1207
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,700
something wrong you. 
I bet it like resets every 

1208
01:07:34,700 --> 01:07:38,500
single day. 
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. 

1209
01:07:38,500 --> 01:07:40,200
That it's awesome and they're 
wrong. 

1210
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:45,900
I know I can't believe it other 
Farms did, and it was all is 

1211
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:50,900
Normal is very wholesome, 
there's nothing like this. 

1212
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:54,500
You got the stuff that's that's 
cute that she asked sign. 

1213
01:07:55,600 --> 01:08:00,000
I need to, like, be more present
when I'm like, checking out as a

1214
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,700
customer, you know, what I mean 
to say things like that, to just

1215
01:08:03,700 --> 01:08:07,600
talk to the like cashier more 
like, you know, like sometimes I

1216
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,800
do but then sometimes I do and I
feel really awkward. 

1217
01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:12,900
Yeah. 
I don't know. 

1218
01:08:14,300 --> 01:08:16,800
I remember like around the 
Endemic. 

1219
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:20,700
And when stores like finally 
opened, I felt like, I was being

1220
01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:23,100
really weird. 
Like I was some sort of 

1221
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,899
conversation with people at 
Trader Joe's and stuff Trader. 

1222
01:08:27,899 --> 01:08:29,899
Joe's is so friendly, I'm sure 
they are. 

1223
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:32,300
They're really friendly, love 
those guys. 

1224
01:08:32,300 --> 01:08:36,300
Great customer service. 
I feel so bad for the Trader, 

1225
01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:38,600
Joe's employees in New York 
because there's always like, a 

1226
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,399
mile long line. 
Oh, I know, but they're so 

1227
01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:42,600
friendly. 
They're in there. 

1228
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,800
Literally amazing. 
I used to work retail myself. 

1229
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,800
Laughs me too. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1230
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,800
Just just letting the hiring 
managers. 

1231
01:08:50,899 --> 01:08:54,200
Oh yes. 
Dealt with a lot of different 

1232
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:58,500
types of people. 
Let's MS-DOS Kelly. 

1233
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,300
If Kelly's living, as she is 
happily employed but I get hip 

1234
01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:06,899
she could get headhunted back to
the story. 

1235
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:13,399
March 1st 2009, according to 
daily mail again, can we trust 

1236
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:14,000
them? 
I don't know. 

1237
01:09:14,700 --> 01:09:18,200
Lindsay was in the process. 
Us of converting to Judaism for 

1238
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,700
Samantha. 
And she, she was photographed 

1239
01:09:20,700 --> 01:09:24,500
leaving the Westminster 
synagogue twice they want but 

1240
01:09:24,500 --> 01:09:26,800
they just went to Sam's younger.
Brother's bar mitzvahs, it's 

1241
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,200
like okay. 
She was seen at the synagogue. 

1242
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,500
I don't think that means 
necessarily. 

1243
01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:34,200
She's converting her younger 
brother. 

1244
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:35,700
Is that much younger that? 
Oh, yeah. 

1245
01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:40,100
Because yeah, I mean science 
article said, entering the 

1246
01:09:40,100 --> 01:09:42,800
synagogue of Photography asked 
Lindsay if she was switching, 

1247
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:47,100
religions to which she replied. 
I'm trying, And she did update 

1248
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:49,000
your Facebook status at week and
wrote. 

1249
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:54,000
I'm converting her change. 
Religion is sure to surprise her

1250
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,300
family. 
This is from the article. 

1251
01:09:56,900 --> 01:10:00,000
I come from a long line of 
Catholics, and I guess her dad 

1252
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,700
had recently recovered his 
relationship with God happened 

1253
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,800
during that period in jail and 
he said, she's exploring 

1254
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,900
Judaism. 
Right now, she's explored the 

1255
01:10:11,900 --> 01:10:15,200
Church of Scientology. 
She's tried Kabbalah and now 

1256
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:16,800
this I think It's just another 
phase. 

1257
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,400
But either way, she's involving 
God in her life and I'm happy 

1258
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,500
about that. 
I guess it's a question for the 

1259
01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:23,700
people. 
Would you would you convert 

1260
01:10:23,700 --> 01:10:28,100
religions for love? 
I don't know. 

1261
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,900
I probably would if I was that 
in love with somebody because 

1262
01:10:33,900 --> 01:10:35,400
I'm not like super religious. 
I think. 

1263
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,200
Honestly like the abrahamic 
religions. 

1264
01:10:38,900 --> 01:10:41,400
I think I do like Buddhism. 
Yeah, I to me. 

1265
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,600
It's like faith is Faith. 
And it's like all like kind of 

1266
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,800
rooted in like the same ideas at
the end of the day, so like, 

1267
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,400
wouldn't be that big of a deal 
but like it would be a lot of 

1268
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:51,700
work. 
It would be. 

1269
01:10:51,700 --> 01:10:53,700
So you'd have to like really be 
committed. 

1270
01:10:54,700 --> 01:10:58,800
I could see myself doing like 
another Form of Christianity or 

1271
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,500
something. 
If it was like really, really 

1272
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:04,100
important. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

1273
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:06,300
I have to say, yeah. 
But then I get I guess at the 

1274
01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:09,000
same time it's like, why am I 
the one who must exit route? 

1275
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:10,200
You know what I mean? 
Yeah. 

1276
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:11,500
So I guess. 
Yeah. 

1277
01:11:11,700 --> 01:11:15,200
It seems like Sam is very like, 
I'm Jewish. 

1278
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,800
Yeah, seems like Lindsay for is 
just exploring different 

1279
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,400
religions and is open to it so I
don't know. 

1280
01:11:22,700 --> 01:11:24,600
That's serious. 
Yes, here it is. 

1281
01:11:25,300 --> 01:11:28,100
I know. 
I don't know why. 

1282
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:32,300
I just, I love neurons. 
I think they are really can't 

1283
01:11:32,300 --> 01:11:35,500
feel like I like her vibe. 
Which I see we've really chill. 

1284
01:11:35,500 --> 01:11:38,700
And okay. 
Also, it's not just because they

1285
01:11:38,700 --> 01:11:41,900
are both into women, but she 
does remind me of Kristen 

1286
01:11:41,900 --> 01:11:45,800
Stewart, a lot know. 
I like a very like, low-key, 

1287
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,200
like chill. 
No, I've been Christians. 

1288
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,500
A little less low key though. 
Yeah. 

1289
01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:52,400
You think I think so? 
Yeah. 

1290
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:56,300
I feel like she has like this. 
Like a boisterous side for like 

1291
01:11:56,300 --> 01:11:57,700
I feel like she's a little 
Little bit. 

1292
01:11:57,700 --> 01:11:59,300
Like I feel like she gets 
jealous. 

1293
01:11:59,300 --> 01:12:06,000
I don't, we don't. 
Yeah, that's much more behind 

1294
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,500
the scenes. 
She's not an actor, so, yeah, 

1295
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,900
but I just even though it does 
seem crazy in there, fighting is

1296
01:12:14,900 --> 01:12:18,500
stuff. 
I was just giving them anyway, 

1297
01:12:18,900 --> 01:12:23,200
but March 13th, 2009. 
Hmm, and arrest. 

1298
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:27,200
Warrant was issued for Lindsay 
because of the probation. 

1299
01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:31,800
Allegation, the judge did drop 
the warrant several days later 

1300
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,400
when she decided that Lohan was 
in full compliance, but the 

1301
01:12:35,407 --> 01:12:39,000
paperwork was not updated. 
So, like, that's why she'd been 

1302
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,000
arrested. 
He's a lot of mugshots. 

1303
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:46,500
Yes, yes, she does March 16, so 
three days later. 

1304
01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:49,600
Police were called it their home
due to a smashed window during 

1305
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,200
an argument between them. 
And I think this is really who 

1306
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,300
called the police. 
I think a neighbor, it says, a 

1307
01:12:55,308 --> 01:12:58,900
neighbor called 911 after 
Lindsay through a vase through a

1308
01:12:58,900 --> 01:13:00,100
window. 
Wow. 

1309
01:13:00,100 --> 01:13:03,700
And there actually are pictures 
of a smashed window and pictures

1310
01:13:03,700 --> 01:13:06,000
of four officers, arriving to 
the door. 

1311
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,400
So I think it's really like 
there are pictures of it 

1312
01:13:09,700 --> 01:13:13,300
unfortunately for the privacy 
but apparently neither Lindsay 

1313
01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:17,600
Norseman that answered the door 
and they waited outside offices 

1314
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,000
did to see that everything was 
okay. 

1315
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,600
But then they left it was pretty
bad. 

1316
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,600
I know you're smashing case. 
Have you ever smash something so

1317
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,500
you were so angry? 
I never have. 

1318
01:13:26,900 --> 01:13:29,600
Yeah. 
Why? 

1319
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:37,500
What did you smash a picture 
frame? 

1320
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:47,700
Yeah. 
It was like a picture of us. 

1321
01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:53,900
Oh wait I love that. 
I was like dang I could have 

1322
01:13:53,900 --> 01:13:56,300
just used for something else. 
Yeah. 

1323
01:13:57,300 --> 01:13:59,900
I think it's sometimes it is 
like therapeutic. 

1324
01:13:59,900 --> 01:14:01,700
Yeah. 
I didn't have like I feel like 

1325
01:14:01,700 --> 01:14:03,700
maybe should next time I get 
angry. 

1326
01:14:03,700 --> 01:14:07,100
Yeah. 
But you can paint it up. 

1327
01:14:07,100 --> 01:14:09,800
Yeah. 
So it is it does feel a little 

1328
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,300
silly. 
Yeah. 

1329
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:16,200
After but I do think it can be. 
I don't think this was like that

1330
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:21,100
maybe but can feel a little 
ceremony is like this is over. 

1331
01:14:21,300 --> 01:14:25,900
I feel like there's a difference
between doing it in private and 

1332
01:14:25,900 --> 01:14:27,700
then doing it in front of 
someone like In front of 

1333
01:14:27,700 --> 01:14:29,300
someone. 
It's like the actress is 

1334
01:14:29,300 --> 01:14:33,100
throwing of a through. 
And yeah, I do think like 

1335
01:14:33,100 --> 01:14:35,500
breaking a plate. 
Could probably feel really good.

1336
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,200
Yeah. 
I'll consider it next time. 

1337
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,300
I think a lot of people do that 
is almost like a form of 

1338
01:14:41,300 --> 01:14:43,800
therapy. 
I think I've even heard of. 

1339
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,400
You can like it sounds really 
wasteful but like you can go 

1340
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,900
somewhere and like break play. 
Yeah, I think I've tried to 

1341
01:14:49,900 --> 01:14:52,000
break something before and like 
it just didn't break or 

1342
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,600
something. 
And then things Break by 

1343
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,900
accident all the time. 
I know, I know that's like fire 

1344
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,500
really really hard to make fire 
and it just happens bags by a 

1345
01:15:02,500 --> 01:15:05,300
common. 
God lightning can just cause 

1346
01:15:05,300 --> 01:15:07,200
fire. 
Yeah it's crazy. 

1347
01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:12,400
God I know guys like right now 
there's going to be fire right 

1348
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:13,000
now. 
There's not good. 

1349
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,500
Yeah. 
Okay. 

1350
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,500
But actually that same day later
that night Lindsay went to the 

1351
01:15:18,500 --> 01:15:21,800
Chateau Marmont and Jack 
Nicholson's house and stay there

1352
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,400
till 438 Jack. 
Eagles then yeah. 

1353
01:15:24,900 --> 01:15:28,000
What is he doing here? 
I don't know. 

1354
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:33,600
But yeah, so despite the drama 
of the day still went partying 

1355
01:15:33,700 --> 01:15:36,300
up nights like everything. 
Resets it soon. 

1356
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,200
Yeah. 
April 2009. 

1357
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:40,900
Lindsay. 
Confirmed to the press that her 

1358
01:15:40,900 --> 01:15:46,100
and Samantha were over. 
Actually I do and it sounded 

1359
01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:51,100
like the breakup was really 
messy according to people, 

1360
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:55,100
Samantha changed the locks on 
her house in band, Lindsay from 

1361
01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:58,800
attending an event that was 
celebrating her sisters fashion.

1362
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:03,300
Brand the event was called I 
heart, Ronson immediately 

1363
01:16:03,300 --> 01:16:05,900
following the breakup and there 
were threats about a restraining

1364
01:16:05,900 --> 01:16:09,500
order because Lindsey kept 
trying to get into the party and

1365
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:12,400
people were telling her, she 
couldn't get in Sam's family, 

1366
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,100
made her. 
Swear that Really over a friend 

1367
01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:18,700
of Lindsay and Ronson's apparent
previously, told the outlet, 

1368
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,600
they are giving her all the 
support they can to keep her 

1369
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,800
away from Lindsay. 
Another source of Samantha's 

1370
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,700
said Lindsay is going to try and
twist the situation in her favor

1371
01:16:28,700 --> 01:16:31,600
but Sam clearly left her not the
other way around. 

1372
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,700
Meanwhile Lindsay wrote several 
things on her. 

1373
01:16:35,700 --> 01:16:41,000
Private Twitter page, apparently
accusing Samantha of infidelity 

1374
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,700
and drug use, which led to The 
Break-Up Up in one message 

1375
01:16:44,700 --> 01:16:47,000
Lindsay wrote you broke my heart
now. 

1376
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,000
Go away I loved you. 
My God. 

1377
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,500
This on my way on Twitter isn't 
Twitter? 

1378
01:16:53,500 --> 01:16:56,900
Yeah back when it oh yeah. 
People are so different. 

1379
01:16:56,900 --> 01:17:01,300
Yeah, I feel like nowadays, I'd 
be a big deal that like, basic 

1380
01:17:01,300 --> 01:17:03,500
HTML look to it. 
And yeah. 

1381
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:08,000
Um, she also tweeted at samms 
account. 

1382
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,200
I was right all along cheat and 
Lindsay tweeted to being cheated

1383
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,900
on does wonders to you. 
Doing this publicly because of 

1384
01:17:14,900 --> 01:17:18,200
you and your friends because you
and your friends call people 

1385
01:17:18,700 --> 01:17:21,500
with a capital P. 
Yeah, so you when you broke my 

1386
01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:23,900
heart and now go away. 
Did she really cheat on her? 

1387
01:17:23,900 --> 01:17:29,800
Sorry, I don't know. 
Maybe they were both at Chateau 

1388
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:34,400
Marmont when Samantha stayed in 
a room below and Z's apparently.

1389
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,700
Coincidentally, they're both are
0 and Lindsay tweeted. 

1390
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:42,600
Please leave me alone and stop 
staying in the room below me, 

1391
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,900
you've woken me In my mother up.
Go to bed, keep cheating, you 

1392
01:17:46,900 --> 01:17:50,500
win, ask your sister to stop 
yelling, profanities. 

1393
01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:54,300
Please stop doing drugs. 
Please go away and go to bed. 

1394
01:17:54,500 --> 01:17:57,000
You work hard, and you need some
rest those around. 

1395
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,900
You are clearly negative 
influences, it's not wrong 

1396
01:17:59,907 --> 01:18:02,400
cheating, if you're not 
together, I know, I don't think 

1397
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,400
they were together anymore. 
Yeah, that's the thing that 

1398
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:09,300
like, I'm not sure if that is 
actually true. 

1399
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:14,800
Yeah, I mean I mean, maybe it 
also like I don't trust Lindsay,

1400
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,900
unfortunately. 
I don't either II mean. 

1401
01:18:18,900 --> 01:18:21,800
I do worry, I don't know what 
Samantha was up to, but I do 

1402
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:26,400
think Lindsay was doing drugs 
to, so I don't know. 

1403
01:18:26,700 --> 01:18:28,600
I think he's not a reliable 
narrator. 

1404
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:29,700
Yeah. 
And I just seems a little 

1405
01:18:29,700 --> 01:18:34,400
hypocritical to be like, stop 
doing jobs around you or 

1406
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,800
negative influences. 
I think they hung out with, 

1407
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,200
like, all these things. 
Yeah, so I don't know, but I do.

1408
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,000
I do feel bad for she said in an
Oprah interview that she's only 

1409
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,200
Cocaine. 
Like, I know 10 times, it's not 

1410
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,900
true. 
It's not like three times. 

1411
01:18:48,900 --> 01:18:50,100
Yeah. 
She said, three in the head 

1412
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:53,600
rounded up again, it's like, 
okay, but like, whatever number 

1413
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,800
you're giving it is more than 
that. 

1414
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,900
Yeah, she isn't reliable. 
That's like pretty. 

1415
01:18:59,500 --> 01:19:02,100
No, no, she's not reliable. 
Yeah, it's like my brother. 

1416
01:19:02,100 --> 01:19:05,500
I said, like, how long do? 
How often do you, sorry? 

1417
01:19:05,500 --> 01:19:08,700
Kevin how often do you take out 
the litter box? 

1418
01:19:08,700 --> 01:19:10,200
So I try to do whatever do 
weeks. 

1419
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,000
It's like if you try to do 
whatever do eat and it's not 

1420
01:19:13,100 --> 01:19:18,400
Even every two weeks that's like
a cat owner. 

1421
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:19,500
That is. 
I'm sorry. 

1422
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,800
Kevin, my cousin love you. 
But that is growing. 

1423
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,300
I know try to every two weeks, 
really. 

1424
01:19:26,300 --> 01:19:28,000
You should do it like every 
couple days. 

1425
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,800
Yeah. 
It's like if that's your if 

1426
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,100
that's what you're telling 
people. 

1427
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:32,700
Yeah. 
Morning that wait. 

1428
01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:35,600
Does he mean like just scooping 
it out or like completely 

1429
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,100
replacing the whole thing? 
I don't know. 

1430
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,400
I think scooping it out is one 
of England. 

1431
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,000
I think he's hopeful. 
He's gone better. 

1432
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,700
Did you use a girlfriend? 
Why would tell you that? 

1433
01:19:46,700 --> 01:19:48,400
I didn't know that. 
You're kidding me. 

1434
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,900
You can cut this out movie. 
Yeah, we should keep it in 

1435
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,800
heaven. 
Yeah, I'll just like, I'll tell 

1436
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,000
you about it, after we. 
Okay. 

1437
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:59,600
Yeah, after the episode. 
Yeah, so, back to The Break-Up 

1438
01:20:00,500 --> 01:20:06,600
apparently Lindsay, talk to US 
Weekly and said, it's absolute 

1439
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:11,100
hell and said that that night 
where she was not allowed to 

1440
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:13,800
enter the party. 
And then the Chateau Mormont 

1441
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,900
thing with Sam staying below her
in the hotel. 

1442
01:20:19,100 --> 01:20:22,100
She said it was humiliating and 
then it was the worst night of 

1443
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:27,600
her life sad and according to US
Weekly, which again, can we 

1444
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:28,400
trust them? 
I don't know. 

1445
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,700
But according to US Weekly, 
Samantha broke up with Lindsay 

1446
01:20:32,900 --> 01:20:36,100
and then head hired five 
security guards to keep her out 

1447
01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:38,500
of the Chateau. 
I think that's where the party 

1448
01:20:38,500 --> 01:20:40,900
was. 
So then they stayed there that 

1449
01:20:40,900 --> 01:20:45,300
night, and He also told the 
magazine that she was shunned by

1450
01:20:45,300 --> 01:20:48,600
other partygoers is made the way
their way in. 

1451
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:53,000
She said everyone's turned on me
and said that Nicole Richie who 

1452
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,500
was her friend, I guess walked 
by her and said, ugh, and Drea 

1453
01:20:56,500 --> 01:20:58,300
de Matteo. 
I don't know who that is what 

1454
01:20:58,300 --> 01:21:01,800
she said come at me bitch and 
Lindsay said I felt like I was 

1455
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,200
in Mean Girls but worse that is 
me going. 

1456
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,300
Yeah I feel like I wasn't being 
girls but worse me girls was a 

1457
01:21:06,308 --> 01:21:08,300
movie. 
I'm not a bad person. 

1458
01:21:08,300 --> 01:21:10,300
And this is what happens. 
I was raised to treat people 

1459
01:21:10,300 --> 01:21:12,300
well and I'm so tired of this 
drama. 

1460
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,700
So it's like people like took 
Samantha side. 

1461
01:21:15,900 --> 01:21:18,700
I mean, Lindsay probably has 
done things that like what upset

1462
01:21:18,700 --> 01:21:23,900
people but yeah at the end of 
the day like it's still hurts, 

1463
01:21:23,900 --> 01:21:28,100
like she's still a person 
sources told the magazine. 

1464
01:21:28,100 --> 01:21:31,800
Again, I don't know if this is 
true but that Ronson man that 

1465
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,400
had been trying to break up with
Lindsay for the past month but 

1466
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,700
that Lindsay would threaten to 
kill herself that meant the 

1467
01:21:38,700 --> 01:21:43,200
cared about her but wanted out 
and Lindsay said I'm just really

1468
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,300
Hurt the whole situation is 
sick. 

1469
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,000
Then Lindsay was on The Ellen 
Degeneres Show. 

1470
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,600
And she talked about this, I'll 
play it. 

1471
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:57,000
And in this, in this episode of 
Ellen Lindsay, just looks really

1472
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,100
thin. 
And I don't know. 

1473
01:21:58,100 --> 01:22:01,900
I feel very concerned about her 
and this interview but I'll play

1474
01:22:01,900 --> 01:22:06,700
it for you, okay? 
So, so supposedly cheating, you 

1475
01:22:06,700 --> 01:22:08,500
weren't cheating. 
I don't believe in cheating on 

1476
01:22:08,500 --> 01:22:09,700
someone, you don't want even 
cheating. 

1477
01:22:09,700 --> 01:22:10,800
So you didn't cheat. 
Okay. 

1478
01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:14,300
And, and all the restraining 
order, Or watch my father, do 

1479
01:22:14,300 --> 01:22:15,800
that to my mother like my entire
life. 

1480
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,700
So I really don't, so you don't 
cheat. 

1481
01:22:17,700 --> 01:22:20,100
Okay. 
So, and what about the 

1482
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:24,600
restraining order is that, is 
that did she, did she no idea, 

1483
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,100
you didn't know, just what am I 
going to do? 

1484
01:22:27,300 --> 01:22:29,400
Yeah, I don't know, I don't 
know. 

1485
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,400
I was like, I don't understand. 
It came out of nowhere, like, 

1486
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:37,500
I've supported Charlotte and 
I've never, I've never done 

1487
01:22:37,500 --> 01:22:40,600
anything for that to be for 
people to assume that I'm 

1488
01:22:41,100 --> 01:22:41,900
dangerous. 
Okay. 

1489
01:22:41,900 --> 01:22:45,600
So so you're basically Saying, 
you just want to focus on work 

1490
01:22:45,700 --> 01:22:49,700
and you want to try to not let 
any of this stuff interfere 

1491
01:22:49,700 --> 01:22:52,500
anymore. 
Yeah, I mean I've had a really 

1492
01:22:52,500 --> 01:22:56,700
good opportunity with an amazing
actor and it was kind of it's 

1493
01:22:56,700 --> 01:22:59,500
been put on hold because of all 
this credit adjustment. 

1494
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,000
Is it hard for you to you? 
You going and having meetings? 

1495
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,400
Are you having a hard time? 
Convincing people though? 

1496
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:06,900
That you're not having a hard 
time? 

1497
01:23:06,900 --> 01:23:09,100
No. 
Okay, so you so it's just a 

1498
01:23:09,100 --> 01:23:10,600
matter of you. 
I don't know what happened. 

1499
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,200
It was like everything fell into
place and everything's like 

1500
01:23:13,300 --> 01:23:16,200
Really moving and going on. 
And it feels really good because

1501
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,300
I mean I didn't get in this 
business to be a celebrity on 

1502
01:23:19,300 --> 01:23:22,800
the cover of tabloids and I've 
been in Target and I'm not that 

1503
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:27,300
interesting but and it 
distracted and just tracks 

1504
01:23:27,300 --> 01:23:29,900
people at Studio has everyone, 
you know they get nervous and 

1505
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,200
I've been through a lot but that
doesn't. 

1506
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:36,400
I was 19 years old, when years 
old, when things happen and you 

1507
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:40,600
know, I'm ready to work and I'm 
responsible and I can be on time

1508
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,900
and I've learned from my 
mistakes, Right? 

1509
01:23:42,900 --> 01:23:44,400
Lynn. 
You're so talented. 

1510
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,200
I mean, your we all want you to,
we want the best for you because

1511
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,800
you are a good person and you're
extremely talented. 

1512
01:23:57,300 --> 01:23:59,900
Say what you want about Alan, 
but she's so good at what she 

1513
01:23:59,900 --> 01:24:02,700
does. 
No, she's gonna Cobble a direct 

1514
01:24:02,700 --> 01:24:06,400
really good, you know. 
I'm a fan of Ellen's you could 

1515
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,200
just die. 
That was a pretty awkward 

1516
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,300
interview though. 
Without was, I don't think she 

1517
01:24:11,300 --> 01:24:14,800
should have been on a talk show.
So at all I don't think she was 

1518
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,600
like in a weird place mentally. 
Again I think she doesn't have 

1519
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,100
like a support system. 
She just seemed like very 

1520
01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:23,200
defensive. 
Yeah which is understandable but

1521
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:27,400
it just felt I don't know. 
You could tell Ellen was just 

1522
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:31,000
trying to ask the question. 
Yeah Lindsay was kind of 

1523
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,700
combated where she was like what
am I gonna do? 

1524
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:41,700
Like anybody could do something 
like it's Yeah, that made me 

1525
01:24:41,700 --> 01:24:47,600
exists funny that interview um 
about The Break-Up her freaking 

1526
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:51,500
dad, Michael Lohan said to ABC 
News. 

1527
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,700
He said about The Break-Up, well
thank God. 

1528
01:24:54,700 --> 01:24:57,900
I think it's a healthy decision 
that she take a break and relax 

1529
01:24:57,900 --> 01:25:00,100
and pursue her own career in her
own goals. 

1530
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:04,100
What they had was very toxic, it
had become very toxic, he 

1531
01:25:04,100 --> 01:25:06,900
doesn't need to follow Samantha 
round, she needs to sit down 

1532
01:25:06,900 --> 01:25:09,700
with her parents, she's just she
needs the support of both of us 

1533
01:25:09,700 --> 01:25:12,100
to help her along. 
And he's an emotional person. 

1534
01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:15,500
I want her to get out on with 
her life in the right direction 

1535
01:25:15,500 --> 01:25:19,500
and healthy way. 
I mean that all sounds nice but 

1536
01:25:19,500 --> 01:25:22,800
I'm just skeptical of her. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

1537
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:24,900
It just seems like he has been 
supportive of the whole time and

1538
01:25:24,900 --> 01:25:30,900
I just maybe I'm just inserting 
my own bias but I'm assuming 

1539
01:25:30,900 --> 01:25:33,700
it's because she's with a woman 
but I don't know. 

1540
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:37,800
No, I'm guessing. 
Yeah, her grandmother who's 

1541
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,800
actually named Marilyn 
interesting. 

1542
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:44,000
Well, in Long Island's, told 
People magazine, we'd all like 

1543
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,500
to reach out to her. 
We're all here for her and we'd 

1544
01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:48,600
love to see her me. 
As a grandmother. 

1545
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,900
I'd like to try and help her out
but she's not here. 

1546
01:25:50,900 --> 01:25:53,800
She's in La. 
I think she needs her family and

1547
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:55,600
her life but they're not they 
should be. 

1548
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,100
I haven't seen her in over a 
year. 

1549
01:25:57,100 --> 01:26:00,500
I don't know what happened. 
I'm heartbroken will happen is 

1550
01:26:00,500 --> 01:26:03,600
that it was too much too fast 
and she was on her own too 

1551
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,500
early. 
She was too young and they get 

1552
01:26:05,500 --> 01:26:07,800
into the party scene. 
It's very hard for him. 

1553
01:26:08,300 --> 01:26:11,500
And then Marilyn said, I love 
her. 

1554
01:26:11,500 --> 01:26:13,300
Call me. 
I'm here for her and anything. 

1555
01:26:13,300 --> 01:26:16,900
I can do please get in touch so 
yeah. 

1556
01:26:17,100 --> 01:26:19,300
And as for Winning with 
Samantha. 

1557
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,200
Her grandma said, I don't think 
she should be with her. 

1558
01:26:23,500 --> 01:26:27,500
Hmm. 
So then this is when Lindsay got

1559
01:26:27,500 --> 01:26:31,100
her Marilyn Monroe tattoo with 
the quote, everyone's a star and

1560
01:26:31,100 --> 01:26:34,600
deserves the right to twinkle 
and a source. 

1561
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:38,100
I mean, who knows who this is? 
But said to people, she feels 

1562
01:26:38,100 --> 01:26:40,700
alone all of their mutual 
friends have turned on her, 

1563
01:26:40,700 --> 01:26:44,700
she's 22, but this would be 
tough to handle it any age, but 

1564
01:26:44,700 --> 01:26:47,600
then another source said she's 
being painted as this victim but

1565
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,600
She's not. 
She's a strong girl. 

1566
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:55,200
Hmm. 
Well she is 100% of victim of 

1567
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,600
her parents, I think and the 
victim of like the industry. 

1568
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,800
So like yeah far does that go? 
You know? 

1569
01:27:02,100 --> 01:27:07,900
Yeah, around this time she was 
in a Funny or Die video. 

1570
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,100
Remember those? 
Yeah, kind of like poking fun at

1571
01:27:11,100 --> 01:27:13,300
herself. 
It was like a spoof commercial 

1572
01:27:13,300 --> 01:27:17,600
for a dating site and in it she 
says hi my name is Lindsay. 

1573
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:21,400
I'm searching for love. 
I'm recently, single, I think, 

1574
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,700
and I'm looking for someone who 
I can spend the rest of my life 

1575
01:27:23,700 --> 01:27:26,100
with, or at least the rest of my
probation. 

1576
01:27:26,700 --> 01:27:30,200
She says a little bit about me. 
I'm an actress, a singer, an 

1577
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,600
entrepreneur, and I 
single-handedly keep ninety 

1578
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,100
percent of all gossip websites 
in business. 

1579
01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:38,100
She says, I would Define my 
personality as creative a bit of

1580
01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:40,300
a night. 
Owl workaholic a Shopaholic and 

1581
01:27:40,300 --> 01:27:43,200
according to the state of 
California and alcoholic, as 

1582
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,800
well as a threat to all security
guards, if they work in hotels, 

1583
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,700
so I guess Is referencing that 
night? 

1584
01:27:49,700 --> 01:27:53,300
Yeah I'm looking for a 
compatible mate who likes a 

1585
01:27:53,308 --> 01:27:57,500
night on the town as long as he 
or she is driving, of course, 

1586
01:27:57,500 --> 01:27:59,600
like single monitoring 
bracelets, and doesn't have 

1587
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,500
family members, quick to issue, 
restraining orders. 

1588
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:07,700
So a lot of references to 
Samantha in that little skit. 

1589
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,700
However, it wasn't really over 
between them. 

1590
01:28:10,700 --> 01:28:15,900
As I said earlier, this lasted 
until like 2011 May 2009 Lindsay

1591
01:28:15,900 --> 01:28:17,600
was seen driving to a 
restaurant. 

1592
01:28:18,100 --> 01:28:21,500
Samantha was eating at and asked
this is crazy to me as the 

1593
01:28:21,500 --> 01:28:25,600
porosity who Samantha was with 
and apparently she was with a 

1594
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,800
girl and he seemed upset but 
later that night she went to 

1595
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,500
Samantha's and exactly so many 
videos. 

1596
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:37,200
I know, it's really invasive, 
but there's so many Paparazzi 

1597
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,000
videos of them going to 
Samantha's house. 

1598
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:44,300
Like, I feel like I know. 
Samantha is gate in front door. 

1599
01:28:44,300 --> 01:28:47,400
Yeah, so well, it kinda scary, 
it's like crazy. 

1600
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,400
Yeah. 
June 11th. 

1601
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:54,300
There's a video of Samantha 
parking her car and her garage. 

1602
01:28:54,300 --> 01:28:57,200
And then she walks around her 
gate to the front of the house 

1603
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,400
and the paparazzi just like 
hounding her. 

1604
01:29:00,500 --> 01:29:04,200
Like there's so many and then 
Lindsay shows up in her car and 

1605
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:07,300
she's like, shielding her eyes 
from the camera and 

1606
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:12,100
interestingly the paparazzi one 
of the guys goes guys stop and 

1607
01:29:12,100 --> 01:29:14,200
then they turn off the lights 
and then they turn off the 

1608
01:29:14,208 --> 01:29:17,700
cameras. 
So I don't know I feel like 

1609
01:29:17,900 --> 01:29:21,200
There are some couples words 
like, oh, this seems fake, like,

1610
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:25,000
they're calling the paparazzi. 
You know, seems stage, but them 

1611
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,800
I was like, okay, no, this is 
the yeah, not stage like this is

1612
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,700
crazy. 
Like people were just camping 

1613
01:29:30,700 --> 01:29:33,200
out outside of Samantha's house.
That's sad. 

1614
01:29:33,300 --> 01:29:35,600
She should move. 
I don't I couldn't figure out 

1615
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,500
why. 
They were always going to Sam's 

1616
01:29:37,500 --> 01:29:39,200
house. 
Yeah, there were never at 

1617
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:40,700
Lindsay's. 
I don't know. 

1618
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,600
Lindsay might have had like more
bodyguards. 

1619
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,400
I mean Samantha's rich though. 
Yeah. 

1620
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,600
Does she go by Samantha or Sam? 
I think. 

1621
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:53,000
Both mmm. 
Yeah, then July 21st. 

1622
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,200
Okay. 
So like a month later, July 21st

1623
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,700
2009. 
There is another video of 

1624
01:29:58,700 --> 01:30:01,400
Lindsay coming to Samantha's and
says, open the door, please. 

1625
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,600
They're recording. 
And then you can actually hear 

1626
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:08,600
in the video and I feel so like,
nosy, and creepy for watching 

1627
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:12,100
this and knowing this. 
But you can hear Lindsay yelling

1628
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,600
you lied. 
You fucking lied. 

1629
01:30:16,500 --> 01:30:17,500
You want to see it? 
Yeah. 

1630
01:30:17,500 --> 01:30:18,200
Oh yeah. 
Yeah. 

1631
01:30:23,900 --> 01:30:27,900
Isn't that crazy? 
So yeah and it Samantha that's 

1632
01:30:27,900 --> 01:30:29,100
crazy. 
They said like you're gonna go 

1633
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:32,400
stocks am now like stalking 
them. 

1634
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:39,400
Yeah. 
So yeah Lindsay because that is 

1635
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,700
interesting like the properties 
like talking to them and they 

1636
01:30:41,700 --> 01:30:45,500
both responded. 
These like you're disgusting, 

1637
01:30:46,500 --> 01:30:48,200
knocks on the door. 
And yeah, the properties. 

1638
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,900
Like she's sleeping Samantha. 
Yeah, because I think it's 6 

1639
01:30:51,900 --> 01:30:54,800
a.m. they are, you can hear in 
the video is concrete. 

1640
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:58,600
I feel really creepy that I even
watch this, but you can hear 

1641
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,300
Lindsay yelling and being like 
um, the hide yum. 

1642
01:31:03,700 --> 01:31:07,300
I feel I thought I had was like,
I don't know why you wouldn't 

1643
01:31:07,300 --> 01:31:10,200
keep your voice down if you know
that there's like Paparazzi out 

1644
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,900
outside. 
But like 6:00 a.m. you're tired.

1645
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,000
Yeah. 
And then there was a bag of 

1646
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,200
clothes. 
Yeah. 

1647
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:24,100
Well, you know a lot about We 
can only assume it does seem 

1648
01:31:24,100 --> 01:31:27,400
crazy that that would just be 
there for anyone to see but I 

1649
01:31:27,407 --> 01:31:31,700
guess I mean Samantha's house 
really doesn't have a big front 

1650
01:31:31,700 --> 01:31:33,600
lawn at all. 
There's like a little gate and 

1651
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,500
then the door is kind of just 
like right there. 

1652
01:31:35,500 --> 01:31:39,600
I have to assume that they're 
like not back together but like 

1653
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,900
still like Sam even though she's
like Collins. 

1654
01:31:41,900 --> 01:31:44,300
Yao is like still like letting 
Lindsay in. 

1655
01:31:44,300 --> 01:31:46,400
Yeah. 
Yeah it's not like a fresh cut. 

1656
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,700
Yeah. 
Then three days later. 

1657
01:31:49,700 --> 01:31:55,000
There's another video of Lindsay
shown up at Samantha's house, 

1658
01:31:55,100 --> 01:32:01,300
seemed same gate, same door, 
everything and then Samantha 

1659
01:32:01,300 --> 01:32:05,300
arrives in her car in parking. 
Garage is kind of like, outside 

1660
01:32:05,300 --> 01:32:08,200
of the house and Samantha's 
walking in. 

1661
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:11,600
And the paparazzi tells him, she
looks pretty and laughs. 

1662
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:13,600
And then smooth, it says, you 
think that's funny. 

1663
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,400
So you want to see it? 
Yeah. 

1664
01:32:17,500 --> 01:32:19,300
Do you feel like if you were 
that famous? 

1665
01:32:19,300 --> 01:32:23,100
Like obviously that's harassment
and it would be like scary and 

1666
01:32:23,100 --> 01:32:26,700
like if you're dating but a part
of you would be like, at least 

1667
01:32:26,700 --> 01:32:30,300
people care like, you know, it's
like you would feel like at 

1668
01:32:30,300 --> 01:32:32,100
least people care what I'm 
doing. 

1669
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,600
Yeah. 
It would be crazy. 

1670
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,300
I feel like it would have to 
feel a little flattering. 

1671
01:32:37,300 --> 01:32:40,300
Yeah an obsessive it's a 
process. 

1672
01:32:40,900 --> 01:32:44,100
If anybody really hates you too.
It's like that's a compliment 

1673
01:32:44,100 --> 01:32:46,100
that's a The biggest compliment.
That's true. 

1674
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:49,500
That's true. 
That is mean though. 

1675
01:32:49,500 --> 01:32:53,500
There were like look pretty 
easement then and laughed. 

1676
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,500
Like oh I didn't even know it 
was a joke. 

1677
01:32:55,500 --> 01:32:57,600
Yeah, I think so. 
That's really neat. 

1678
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:03,200
Like you think that's funny? 
Yeah, so Lindsay's bag showing 

1679
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:07,300
up at her house, there was more 
reports of Lindsay, going to her

1680
01:33:07,300 --> 01:33:12,700
house and then July 3rd, the two
of them, apparently got lunch 

1681
01:33:12,700 --> 01:33:18,000
together for Lindsay's 23rd. 
A day in Malibu and so let me 

1682
01:33:18,008 --> 01:33:21,800
turn 23 Samantha's. 
Now, 20 notes means is now 31. 

1683
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,900
Apparently, she wished Lindsay a
happy birthday on Twitter and 

1684
01:33:25,900 --> 01:33:30,100
Lindsay replied. 
Aw, thanks babe like several. 

1685
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:34,600
He's LOL. 
So, it seems like they're back 

1686
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:38,300
together here. 
Then there was this another kind

1687
01:33:38,300 --> 01:33:42,100
of crazy seeming night. 
This was July, 26 2009. 

1688
01:33:42,700 --> 01:33:46,900
I guess they were both I don't 
know after Lindsay was out 

1689
01:33:46,900 --> 01:33:51,600
drinking at Playhouse in La 
Lindsay and her friend went to 

1690
01:33:51,608 --> 01:33:55,800
Smith the Ronson's house around 
3:00 a.m. and this is all on 

1691
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:59,600
video like those similar to 
those videos. 

1692
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,600
We just saw and after several 
hours of waiting I guess Lindsay

1693
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:06,300
was upset and crying when Sam 
arrived at 5 a.m. 

1694
01:34:06,300 --> 01:34:12,500
So I guess, Lindsay been there 
for two hours and I think before

1695
01:34:12,700 --> 01:34:16,600
Sam said or Article said that 
Sam changed the locks on her 

1696
01:34:16,700 --> 01:34:18,200
house. 
Seems like Lindsay still doesn't

1697
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:19,800
have like a way to get in or 
something. 

1698
01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:22,100
So she's waiting. 
Sam arrives at 5. 

1699
01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:24,900
A.m. 
Sam says who's out here and 

1700
01:34:24,900 --> 01:34:30,100
Lindsay cries out your 
girlfriend and Lindsay. 

1701
01:34:30,500 --> 01:34:32,200
Okay. 
What is it Lindsay's asking her?

1702
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,300
Like where she's been? 
She keeps saying like, where 

1703
01:34:34,300 --> 01:34:35,800
were you? 
Where were you? 

1704
01:34:35,900 --> 01:34:38,200
Where were you? 
And Sam like won't answer but 

1705
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,100
then she said, she was with her 
sister and Lindsay says, she 

1706
01:34:41,108 --> 01:34:43,200
doesn't believe her. 
It's like on video. 

1707
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:47,800
It's Kind of crazy to see but 
Lindsey has this friend there 

1708
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:50,200
with her. 
And Sam says she has to leave. 

1709
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:54,500
I don't know her and Lindsay's 
friend come stumbling out of the

1710
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,700
gate, the front yard and seem so
drunk. 

1711
01:34:57,700 --> 01:35:01,000
And then this car alarm is going
off and she's trying to turn the

1712
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,800
car alarm off and Sam. 
Keep saying, she should call a 

1713
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,600
cab, she should call a cab. 
And I think, even the paparazzi 

1714
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:10,400
guys, like, is she driving? 
And then once he goes into 

1715
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:14,100
Samantha's house and leaves her 
friend out there and then the 

1716
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:17,200
Friend is awkwardly like 
stumbles back up to the gate to 

1717
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:20,000
the door? 
He's like a total third meal. 

1718
01:35:21,900 --> 01:35:25,500
Yeah. 
So then August 9th Lindsay's 

1719
01:35:25,500 --> 01:35:28,700
seeing going to Samantha's again
this time with her sister Ali 

1720
01:35:28,700 --> 01:35:31,500
and it's kind of funny. 
They brought bunch of DiGiorno 

1721
01:35:31,500 --> 01:35:35,300
pizzas Pirate's, Booty 
McDonald's. 

1722
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,900
Seems like they're having a 
low-key night, and it's two days

1723
01:35:37,900 --> 01:35:40,800
after Samantha's, 32nd birthday.
So, I don't know if it's like 

1724
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,100
force Samantha's birthday 
apparently on her actual 

1725
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:46,400
Birthday. 
Sam bid had been DJing in 

1726
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,200
Chicago and Lindsay went so it 
seems like they're really back 

1727
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,800
together now. 
Like there were all those video 

1728
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:55,100
Paparazzi things made it seem 
like Lindsay to kind of just 

1729
01:35:55,100 --> 01:35:59,100
like, showing up and like maybe 
they were still talking but 

1730
01:35:59,100 --> 01:36:03,000
still fighting to but here it 
seems like like they're back 

1731
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:06,700
together. 
But there's wait there's way too

1732
01:36:06,700 --> 01:36:09,300
many stories of Lindsay at this 
time, like out on the town, like

1733
01:36:09,300 --> 01:36:13,100
I couldn't even keep up with it.
So I'm leaving out a lot. 

1734
01:36:13,900 --> 01:36:17,400
September 4th, 2009. 
This is this is sad. 

1735
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,300
Actually, their friend, DJ 
Adams. 

1736
01:36:20,300 --> 01:36:23,600
Name is Adam Goldstein. 
Apparently, overdosed and died. 

1737
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:27,500
I think Samantha was his friend 
and her and Lindsay went to his 

1738
01:36:27,500 --> 01:36:33,200
funeral and so did John Mayer. 
I know John Mayer is back in 

1739
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:37,100
this and there was also a story 
about another one. 

1740
01:36:37,100 --> 01:36:40,000
I think of their friend at least
someone like in their Circle 

1741
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:44,100
kind of this girl Casey. 
Johnson. 

1742
01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:46,200
I think she was just she was 
like a socialite. 

1743
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,400
She's actually from like the 
Johnson & Johnson family. 

1744
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:51,000
Oh, wow, she also, overdosed and
died. 

1745
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:54,800
So I was just thinking like oh 
my gosh, it seems like this time

1746
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,400
it's you know, they're having 
all this fun partying, you know,

1747
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:00,700
presence helped in Brittany. 
All these people. 

1748
01:37:00,700 --> 01:37:02,500
Now it's like kind of coming to 
an end. 

1749
01:37:02,500 --> 01:37:05,400
Yeah, you know. 
It's at the reality of it. 

1750
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,300
Yeah. 
It's kind of like crazy that 

1751
01:37:07,300 --> 01:37:10,400
like they didn't like that 
didn't happen. 

1752
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:15,700
I know, I know October 16 2009. 
Beverly Hills judge had extended

1753
01:37:15,700 --> 01:37:20,200
Lindsay's probation for her 
drunk driving conviction, a year

1754
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:23,600
ago, and give her more time to 
complete a required Alcohol, 

1755
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,200
counseling program, but she was 
warned that she would go to 

1756
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:28,700
jail. 
If the judge heard that she had 

1757
01:37:28,700 --> 01:37:32,700
not been attending her 
counseling meetings and they 

1758
01:37:32,700 --> 01:37:36,000
said that they wanted while they
wanted her to have a career. 

1759
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:39,900
They that Lindsay cannot film 
her nose at the court. 

1760
01:37:40,300 --> 01:37:42,500
So they're basically saying like
you have to, you have to do this

1761
01:37:42,500 --> 01:37:45,500
or you're going to go to jail. 
In New York Magazine, December 

1762
01:37:45,500 --> 01:37:47,900
2009. 
There were reports that Lindsay 

1763
01:37:47,900 --> 01:37:51,100
Lohan and Samantha Ronson. 
Maybe getting back together with

1764
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:57,500
the help of an unlikely friend. 
John Mayer was spotted playing 

1765
01:37:58,100 --> 01:38:00,300
relationship. 
Counselor to the exes when they 

1766
01:38:00,300 --> 01:38:04,000
ran into each other at the New 
York Hot Spot butter on Monday 

1767
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,500
night. 
And this is what the New York 

1768
01:38:06,500 --> 01:38:09,300
Magazine article said it's 
Lindsay and Sam didn't arrive 

1769
01:38:09,300 --> 01:38:11,400
together. 
Lindsay walked in and the to set

1770
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:13,600
a quick hello. 
But then Lynn's went to the 

1771
01:38:13,700 --> 01:38:16,700
Table where John was sitting 
according to the source meant, 

1772
01:38:16,700 --> 01:38:18,100
eventually came over to the 
table. 

1773
01:38:18,100 --> 01:38:21,800
But sat far away on the opposite
side, much to lilo's. 

1774
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:25,100
Dismay when he looked upset that
Sam hadn't come over to her and 

1775
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:27,500
started whispering to John who 
looked like he was trying to 

1776
01:38:27,500 --> 01:38:29,400
calm her down. 
She looked pretty angry. 

1777
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,300
Then John got up and went to 
talk to Sam Ronson. 

1778
01:38:32,300 --> 01:38:35,400
Got up with mayor and walked 
over to Lindsey just a few 

1779
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,400
minutes later. 
The source notes that after 

1780
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,000
mayor's intervention, the 
tumultuous to some spent much of

1781
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:43,500
the night talking and laughing 
La Lohan. 

1782
01:38:43,700 --> 01:38:47,100
Even ended the evening looking 
content and dare we say it 

1783
01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:49,800
stable. 
I feel like John Mayer would mix

1784
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:53,600
himself up into the meds, see 
what he's like. 

1785
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:55,500
This makes me feel better about 
my life. 

1786
01:38:55,500 --> 01:38:59,800
So true. 
He's like guys guys guys it's 

1787
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:05,000
just be like adults right now. 
Yeah II. 

1788
01:39:10,100 --> 01:39:13,500
He comes up again. 
Oh my God. 

1789
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:17,400
But okay, December 2009. 
So this is less than a month 

1790
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,100
actually. 
It was actually reported that 

1791
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:21,500
Lindsay's been seen out and 
about with guys and that she was

1792
01:39:21,500 --> 01:39:26,900
dating men again. 
Um, then early 2010, she was in 

1793
01:39:26,900 --> 01:39:32,500
an interview with Alan Carr, who
is a British personality. 

1794
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:37,100
And I think his thing is to be 
like really raunchy and ask 

1795
01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:38,800
inappropriate questions and 
things. 

1796
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,100
But it mean is kind of shocking.
He was like, are you back on the

1797
01:39:42,100 --> 01:39:45,700
cock? 
And She like refused to answer. 

1798
01:39:45,700 --> 01:39:48,100
She was like next question. 
Next question. 

1799
01:39:48,100 --> 01:39:51,100
And he said we are next one. 
Be a man or a woman. 

1800
01:39:51,100 --> 01:39:53,700
And she said, I refuse to 
discuss this and was like, see 

1801
01:39:53,700 --> 01:39:56,000
if there's other questions and 
she even like reached out and 

1802
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:59,100
like because he had a pile of 
questions and I was like this is

1803
01:39:59,100 --> 01:40:00,900
a lot of you other questions. 
See there's other questions like

1804
01:40:00,900 --> 01:40:02,500
she's really don't want to talk 
about it. 

1805
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,600
Hmm. 
And it does seem like Lindsay is

1806
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:09,000
kind of going downhill at this 
point like she's being banned 

1807
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:13,400
from clubs and God it was really
a mess. 

1808
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:20,100
In February 2010, she told the 
sun, we love each other, we 

1809
01:40:20,100 --> 01:40:22,700
might reconcile the 
relationship, maybe, I don't 

1810
01:40:22,700 --> 01:40:24,800
know. 
This was 10 months after their 

1811
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:28,200
initial breakup and she said I 
think Samantha was going as a 

1812
01:40:28,208 --> 01:40:30,500
celebrity and a musician. 
I think that might have scared 

1813
01:40:30,500 --> 01:40:32,700
her family. 
I've always been her biggest 

1814
01:40:32,700 --> 01:40:35,700
supporter and yeah I love her. 
All the fighting stuff was just 

1815
01:40:35,700 --> 01:40:38,600
because of all her friends. 
I got involved and made me an 

1816
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,400
outcast which wasn't fair to 
submit that. 

1817
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:43,200
I think it was a jealousy thing 
in terms of her becoming more 

1818
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,900
famous than the rest of them. 
I never really thought about 

1819
01:40:45,900 --> 01:40:48,200
women before it just kind of 
happened with Samantha. 

1820
01:40:48,700 --> 01:40:51,000
She's the only woman I've ever 
been attracted to. 

1821
01:40:51,100 --> 01:40:53,600
I've never had a relationship as
public is that especially being 

1822
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:56,300
with a girl for the first time, 
that was really scary for me, 

1823
01:40:56,300 --> 01:40:58,000
but I didn't care because I love
her. 

1824
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:03,000
Hmm, February also favored 2010,
Lindsay, defended Samantha. 

1825
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,600
Because apparently, they've been
rumors that Sam had gotten 

1826
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:09,000
violent during a fight. 
In Lindsay's who we did. 

1827
01:41:09,300 --> 01:41:12,400
This has become a bit. 
Much Samantha are never raised a

1828
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:14,500
hand to me. 
I've never said she didn't. 

1829
01:41:14,700 --> 01:41:17,900
There's enough focus on other 
more important, dot, dot dot 

1830
01:41:17,900 --> 01:41:19,700
World issues. 
If you tweet this. 

1831
01:41:19,700 --> 01:41:23,600
Yeah wow and then Samantha 
thanks her in Lindsay tweeted 

1832
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:32,100
back you are welcome went 
swinging face that Lindsay once 

1833
01:41:32,100 --> 01:41:36,000
again look Lindsay is a good 
person I think she's trying. 

1834
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:45,100
Yeah yeah Lindsay showed up at 
Samantha's at 2 a.m. so Many 

1835
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:47,800
times this happens just like I 
don't know. 

1836
01:41:48,300 --> 01:41:52,600
Another fighting night, there's 
screaming, clearly audible 

1837
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:57,000
outside before it calmed down. 
Apparently Lindsay left the 

1838
01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:00,300
house at 6 a.m. and then it's 
meant the left not long after 

1839
01:42:00,300 --> 01:42:03,500
that. 
And there were reports that 

1840
01:42:03,500 --> 01:42:06,100
Lindsay have been kind of like 
chasing around l.a. trying to 

1841
01:42:06,100 --> 01:42:10,100
find Samantha. 
That Samantha was dining at a 

1842
01:42:10,100 --> 01:42:13,700
place called. 
She could chick Coney's 

1843
01:42:13,700 --> 01:42:16,700
Restaurant in Beverly Hills. 
And then she moved on to the, 

1844
01:42:16,700 --> 01:42:20,700
darkroom on Melrose, Avenue and 
Lindsay showed up there and ask 

1845
01:42:20,700 --> 01:42:23,400
if Samantha was inside and 
looked disheartened when she was

1846
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:27,400
told that she had left, and then
Lindsay was even more upset when

1847
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,800
she learned from photographers, 
at Smith had been with another 

1848
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:32,800
woman. 
And then she arrived at 

1849
01:42:32,900 --> 01:42:36,200
Samantha's home in the early 
hours of Wednesday, and the two 

1850
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,300
could be heard arguing, and then
Witnesses said, they heard 

1851
01:42:39,300 --> 01:42:42,600
Lindsay, crying and asking 
Samantha to come to me. 

1852
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,600
But that's the second time 
that's been reported that she 

1853
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:52,500
was like, asking, Paparazzi 
doesn't matter who Samantha was 

1854
01:42:52,500 --> 01:42:56,300
with and where she was, I don't 
suppose I would if I was in the 

1855
01:42:56,300 --> 01:43:00,100
same position I would do it. 
Yeah, I don't know what's going 

1856
01:43:00,100 --> 01:43:01,500
on here. 
I hope Samantha isn't like 

1857
01:43:01,500 --> 01:43:04,100
cheating, but I wonder if 
they're like officially to. 

1858
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:06,700
I don't think so. 
Yeah, I feel like they're not 

1859
01:43:06,900 --> 01:43:08,200
because it kind of, I mean, I 
don't know. 

1860
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,900
It just seems like Lindsay's 
kind of like showing up. 

1861
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:12,400
Yeah, I'm in the house all the 
time. 

1862
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:14,500
People officially break up. 
Yeah. 

1863
01:43:14,700 --> 01:43:17,200
But they're unofficially like 
still seeing each other for a 

1864
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:20,300
really long time. 
I literally have friends in the 

1865
01:43:20,308 --> 01:43:24,300
middle of that right now. 
Yeah it happens all the time May

1866
01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:29,300
20th 2010 MZ mr. 
Required court hearing in which 

1867
01:43:29,300 --> 01:43:32,300
the judge was going to determine
whether she'd been attending 

1868
01:43:32,300 --> 01:43:36,800
weekly alcohol counseling 
sessions as ordered and her 

1869
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:38,700
defense. 
Lawyer told the judge that 

1870
01:43:38,700 --> 01:43:41,700
Lindsay was unable to fly back 
from the Cannes Film Festival in

1871
01:43:41,700 --> 01:43:44,000
France, because she lost her 
passport. 

1872
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:47,000
And then the arrest warrant was 
issued by the judge at the 

1873
01:43:47,008 --> 01:43:51,600
hearing, but it was withdrawn 
after a representative posted 

1874
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:56,100
her 1800 thousand dollar bail. 
Crazy. 

1875
01:43:56,700 --> 01:44:00,900
Then there were new bail, 
conditions imposed on her, the 

1876
01:44:00,900 --> 01:44:04,500
judge ordered, a drinking ban 
random weekly drug testing it, 

1877
01:44:04,500 --> 01:44:07,300
the actress would be fitted 
again of the bracelets detect 

1878
01:44:07,300 --> 01:44:11,700
alcohol, but there are more 
crazy stories of nights out 

1879
01:44:11,700 --> 01:44:15,600
Lindsay, drunk tripping, and 
hurting her knee and Lindsay 

1880
01:44:15,700 --> 01:44:18,100
apparently popping into places. 
She knew Samantha would be 

1881
01:44:18,100 --> 01:44:21,800
working at I guess I was like, 
oh, that's so true. 

1882
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:26,100
Like she's a DJ. 
Yeah, she can like always find 

1883
01:44:26,100 --> 01:44:27,500
her. 
Yeah, somewhere. 

1884
01:44:27,900 --> 01:44:29,800
But July 2nd, Samantha to be 
that onesie. 

1885
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:35,500
Happy birthday Old Spice. 
Lindsay responded, thank you. 

1886
01:44:35,500 --> 01:44:37,000
I love you, baby. 
Bella! 

1887
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,700
Oh, Lola and Rios. 
So thank you to older spice. 

1888
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,200
Hey, what did she say? 
Lola and Rio. 

1889
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,200
Where her dogs? 
She's saying. 

1890
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:46,700
Thank you. 
Love you, baby, Bella. 

1891
01:44:46,700 --> 01:44:49,500
Oh my dog. 
Say, thank you to older spice. 

1892
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,100
Ice. 
So it seems like they call each 

1893
01:44:51,100 --> 01:44:53,500
other, like Old Spice and older 
spice. 

1894
01:44:53,500 --> 01:44:57,100
Yeah. 
They're both kind of Ginger. 

1895
01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,900
Hmm. 
Like that's has a bad shit. 

1896
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:05,000
Lindsay seems very like 
enthusiastic and always inherent

1897
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,600
to beats to, yeah. 
Like there's in a winky face, 

1898
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:09,400
like happy to get any 
interaction. 

1899
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:10,900
Yeah, Sam. 
Yeah. 

1900
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:18,100
But then July 6 2010, the judge 
Revel ordered Lindsay to serve, 

1901
01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:21,900
90 days in jail, for missing. 
Her alcohol, counseling sessions

1902
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:26,600
in violation of her probation, 
and also ordered her 90 days in 

1903
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:31,200
a drug-and-alcohol rehab program
after her jail term is complete.

1904
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,600
I did, I did do everything that 
I was told to do, and I did the 

1905
01:45:34,608 --> 01:45:37,100
best. 
I could do a sobbing Lohan, told

1906
01:45:37,100 --> 01:45:39,500
the judge, and, you know, 
there's videos of this and 

1907
01:45:39,500 --> 01:45:42,100
pictures of her at some chairs, 
like the blond hair, and she's 

1908
01:45:42,100 --> 01:45:43,800
in the court. 
And she finds out, she's going 

1909
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,500
to jail. 
She starts crying. 

1910
01:45:46,500 --> 01:45:48,500
And you can tell she really 
can't believe it. 

1911
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,400
They asked if she could be given
two weeks before he actually 

1912
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:53,300
goes to jail. 
And they said yes. 

1913
01:45:53,300 --> 01:45:59,300
So she had two weeks to prepare.
I guess I feel like I'd want to 

1914
01:45:59,300 --> 01:46:01,500
get it over with. 
I know we how long was she? 

1915
01:46:01,700 --> 01:46:05,600
Send in sport 90 days but then 
90 days in rehab after that, to,

1916
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,900
okay, after this. 
But before she went to jail, 

1917
01:46:08,900 --> 01:46:10,800
Samantha didn't interview to the
times. 

1918
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:14,900
UK, talking about her 
relationship with Lindsay and 

1919
01:46:14,900 --> 01:46:19,300
she said, the fact that Perez 
Hilton called me some man. 

1920
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:21,800
It's the most homophobic thing 
ever. 

1921
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:24,500
The perpetuation of the idea 
that I'm The Man in the 

1922
01:46:24,500 --> 01:46:25,700
relationship. 
Okay. 

1923
01:46:25,700 --> 01:46:28,300
Yeah, my hair is short and I'm a
DJ but I'm a girl. 

1924
01:46:28,300 --> 01:46:29,900
I'm not dude, I'm pretty 
feminine. 

1925
01:46:29,900 --> 01:46:33,500
At the end of the day everyone 
was Like openly gay DJ Samantha 

1926
01:46:33,500 --> 01:46:37,700
Ronson, no excuse me, I'm not 
gay, I'm an equal-opportunity 

1927
01:46:37,700 --> 01:46:39,500
player. 
I still go back and forth. 

1928
01:46:39,500 --> 01:46:42,300
I got called so many things by 
the press that openly gay was 

1929
01:46:42,300 --> 01:46:44,200
the least of my worries at that 
point. 

1930
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,700
Of course, I must be masculine 
and I must be violent. 

1931
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:50,500
I'm sorry when the rumors 
started that, I hit her, 

1932
01:46:50,500 --> 01:46:53,000
whatever I called up, Lindsay 
and was like, you need to dead 

1933
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:55,900
this rumor. 
Now, her brother, Mark Ronson 

1934
01:46:55,900 --> 01:46:58,500
said, I never thought there was 
anything wrong with Samantha 

1935
01:46:58,500 --> 01:47:00,800
Lindsay because that seemed to 
make her happy until I started 

1936
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:04,000
to see the really horrible. 
Herbal - emotional impact than 

1937
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:05,800
she had in her life and all of 
our family. 

1938
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:09,300
I was like this is just bad news
any way you want to slice it. 

1939
01:47:09,300 --> 01:47:12,200
We all told her that there were 
several intervention type things

1940
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:13,700
were we all tried to make her 
see this. 

1941
01:47:14,500 --> 01:47:16,500
I love her as a human being says
Ronson. 

1942
01:47:16,500 --> 01:47:18,600
And I'm not going to sit there 
and to get everything that we 

1943
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,900
had, you know, I could have a 
thousand times, countered shit 

1944
01:47:21,900 --> 01:47:23,800
with facts in this, just not for
me. 

1945
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,900
I'm sorry, my Twitter page is 
for me to be like, dude, I need 

1946
01:47:26,900 --> 01:47:31,100
to pee and stuff about American 
Idol, and they asked, so you're 

1947
01:47:31,100 --> 01:47:34,200
not back, Other. 
No, she exclaimed not at all. 

1948
01:47:34,500 --> 01:47:36,100
Do you want to get back 
together? 

1949
01:47:36,900 --> 01:47:40,900
Ha ha ha, ha, Samantha Ronson, 
laughs hesitantly, no comment on

1950
01:47:40,900 --> 01:47:43,600
that one. 
Let me ask you guys this. 

1951
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:46,100
Hmm. 
Do you think our relationship is

1952
01:47:46,100 --> 01:47:50,700
ever too? 
Toxic to be redeemed. 

1953
01:47:50,900 --> 01:47:54,200
It gets to the point of toxicity
that even if they worked on 

1954
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:57,900
themselves, even if all these 
things happened, it's just too 

1955
01:47:57,900 --> 01:48:01,900
far gone maybe because I do 
think like, people get you Used 

1956
01:48:01,900 --> 01:48:04,100
to playing almost like a certain
role. 

1957
01:48:04,100 --> 01:48:07,300
Yeah certain people and I feel 
like it would I don't know I 

1958
01:48:07,300 --> 01:48:09,100
think you would need some time 
apart. 

1959
01:48:09,100 --> 01:48:12,000
Yeah I agree. 
Yeah what do you think? 

1960
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:19,000
I mean I think people change so 
just because they're toxic and 

1961
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,800
that relationship doesn't mean 
they'd be toxic in another 

1962
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:24,600
relationship if they really work
on themselves. 

1963
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:27,100
But yeah, I feel like it'd be 
like muscle memory like you'd go

1964
01:48:27,100 --> 01:48:30,900
back into it and like, yeah, in 
the other person probably would 

1965
01:48:30,900 --> 01:48:34,800
expect you Act in a certain way 
and then you would, so yeah, I 

1966
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:39,800
don't know. 
Um, but then July 20th. 2010 

1967
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:43,300
Lindsay was put in handcuffs and
then Beverly Hills courtroom and

1968
01:48:43,300 --> 01:48:47,600
taken to jail to begin her term 
and ten days later. 

1969
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:49,900
Samantha visited Lindsay in 
jail. 

1970
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,100
I don't know if she did other 
times too, but the paparazzi was

1971
01:48:53,100 --> 01:48:55,300
following her and it's actually 
crazy. 

1972
01:48:55,300 --> 01:48:58,600
There's tons of Paparazzi 
following her as she walks 

1973
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,900
across the parking lot. 
And then she goes with, The gel 

1974
01:49:01,900 --> 01:49:06,100
later, you see her running out. 
He just like really? 

1975
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:08,300
Yeah, I don't blame her. 
I feel like I would run away, 

1976
01:49:08,300 --> 01:49:13,700
too, you know. 
Oh, that's so it's just insane. 

1977
01:49:14,500 --> 01:49:17,200
He's visiting her Jay. 
I know, that's nice. 

1978
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:21,100
I heard like, it's Gotta Be 
Lonely in there. 

1979
01:49:21,100 --> 01:49:24,400
I know. 
Did you ever hear that Lindsay? 

1980
01:49:24,500 --> 01:49:28,100
I think was put next to the 
woman. 

1981
01:49:28,100 --> 01:49:30,400
Like, Alexis Neiers, who robbed 
her house? 

1982
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:32,900
No, I didn't know that. 
That's crazy. 

1983
01:49:32,900 --> 01:49:37,700
Yeah, that crazy. 
Wow awkward. 

1984
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:44,100
After Lindsay was released. 
Oh, she was actually released 

1985
01:49:44,900 --> 01:49:48,400
less than two week. 
Wait, oh gun, looks like she, I 

1986
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:52,200
think she was actually really 
early and then taken to the 

1987
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:55,400
Ronald Reagan. 
UCLA Medical Center and LA to 

1988
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:58,000
begin her court-ordered rehab. 
Yeah. 

1989
01:49:58,100 --> 01:50:01,700
And the judge and there was a 
new judge put in who replaced 

1990
01:50:01,700 --> 01:50:04,400
the previous one and said that 
once he had learned her lesson, 

1991
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:12,200
what like they keep saying that,
And Lindsay acknowledged on her 

1992
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,400
Twitter that she had failed a 
drug test, I guess. 

1993
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:17,400
But said she's working hard to 
overcome her drug addiction and 

1994
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:20,700
said regrettably, I did fail. 
In fact feel my most recent drug

1995
01:50:20,700 --> 01:50:24,000
test and if I'm asked I'm 
prepared to appear before the 

1996
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:28,200
judge Fox next week as a result 
I do think it's so weird that 

1997
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:32,100
like people with drug addictions
are treated like criminals like 

1998
01:50:32,100 --> 01:50:35,700
it's a disease like it's so 
crazy that they it's so crazy 

1999
01:50:35,700 --> 01:50:37,800
that anyone is in jail for using
drugs. 

2000
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,300
They just sad I do understand 
though. 

2001
01:50:41,300 --> 01:50:44,600
Like she did have several DUIs 
and that's, oh, yeah dangerous. 

2002
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:46,500
That is dangerous. 
Yeah, I'm guessing. 

2003
01:50:46,500 --> 01:50:47,700
She had her license taken away, 
right? 

2004
01:50:47,700 --> 01:50:50,100
Yeah, I think that's why. 
I spent some it was always 

2005
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:54,000
driving her around. 
Oh yeah, there's a lot more 

2006
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:58,800
legal issues. 
There's many more stories. 

2007
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:00,700
Actually. 
She was also arrested for 

2008
01:51:00,700 --> 01:51:03,600
shoplifting. 
Oh in 2011. 

2009
01:51:03,700 --> 01:51:06,000
Yeah, that's what it's like. 
Why do you need to shop? 

2010
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:10,200
Thank you. 
Yeah, there was like a A search 

2011
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,400
warrant for the necklace and 
they found it. 

2012
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:17,900
But then February 18th, 2011, I 
guess the two spent a night 

2013
01:51:17,900 --> 01:51:19,800
together at the Hollywood. 
Roosevelt Hotel. 

2014
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:24,900
Again in Sam tweeted watching 
Grey's Anatomy, my fav show and 

2015
01:51:24,900 --> 01:51:29,800
then at 5 a.m. said at Lindsay, 
Lohan sleeping next to me. 

2016
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:31,300
Should I wake her up to let her 
know her? 

2017
01:51:31,300 --> 01:51:33,600
Mom is going on. 
Good Morning America. 

2018
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,500
But then a month later, it 
appeared that Sam had moved on 

2019
01:51:37,500 --> 01:51:39,800
and was seen kissing yoga 
instructor name. 

2020
01:51:39,900 --> 01:51:46,100
Tiffany Russo. 
And then D spent five hours in 

2021
01:51:46,100 --> 01:51:50,600
jail again, after violating 
drunk-driving, probations and 

2022
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:54,400
charged with theft and she had 
to do a home confinement for 

2023
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:59,100
theft and violating probation, 
and she had continued to miss 

2024
01:51:59,100 --> 01:52:01,500
her community service at you've 
been ordered to do. 

2025
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:06,200
And then this shocked me 
actually some people who knew 

2026
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,900
about this but Samantha was 
actually charged with a DUI 

2027
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:10,900
home. 
Her first Samantha. 

2028
01:52:10,900 --> 01:52:12,300
I'm sorry if you're listening. 
I'm sorry. 

2029
01:52:12,300 --> 01:52:13,800
I judged this up. 
Yeah. 

2030
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:17,100
Just cause I saw you recently. 
I feel ya connection to you. 

2031
01:52:17,100 --> 01:52:21,500
But yeah, she'd been arrested 
for drunk driving. 

2032
01:52:21,500 --> 01:52:24,900
A couple hours. 
North of Los Angeles at 10:30 

2033
01:52:24,900 --> 01:52:26,500
a.m. 
Oh God. 

2034
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:30,600
Apparently, she was on her way 
home from a DJ Gig and was given

2035
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:33,700
two charges of misdemeanors and 
she has mug shot. 

2036
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:37,200
Oh wow. 
Is it the only time she's ever 

2037
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:38,700
been arrested? 
Yeah I believe that's the only 

2038
01:52:38,700 --> 01:52:42,600
time and Wondering. 
What the heck was going on back 

2039
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:44,100
then? 
Don't you feel like so many 

2040
01:52:44,100 --> 01:52:47,100
celebrities were getting DUIs? 
Yeah, you know, who has won 

2041
01:52:47,100 --> 01:52:50,400
Reese Witherspoon, really? 
Well, her husband was arrested 

2042
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:53,900
for DUI and she was arrested 
for, like, like trying to fight 

2043
01:52:53,900 --> 01:52:57,000
the cob my God. 
Yeah, the ever. 

2044
01:52:57,000 --> 01:53:01,400
So wholesome resources. 
I know, but I just feel like it 

2045
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:05,400
was so prevalent in the 2000's. 
Everyone was going to be wise 

2046
01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:07,300
and you just don't hear that. 
And that's the problem with that

2047
01:53:07,300 --> 01:53:09,700
life. 
Yeah, maybe it forces you to. 

2048
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:12,000
Drive. 
I was wondering, like did boober

2049
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:15,900
really changed this that much. 
Like maybe people still are 

2050
01:53:15,900 --> 01:53:18,700
getting them and I just don't 
know because I actually feel 

2051
01:53:18,700 --> 01:53:21,700
like I pay less attention than 
these people are rooftop driver,

2052
01:53:21,700 --> 01:53:24,700
you know, they don't need to be 
drinking and driving at all. 

2053
01:53:24,700 --> 01:53:28,800
Yeah, yeah, I was reading some 
interview with Lindsay and I 

2054
01:53:28,808 --> 01:53:30,600
think someone kind of asked her 
about that. 

2055
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:33,000
Was like you don't take cabs do 
you and she's like yeah I do 

2056
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:37,000
take cabs so I don't know. 
Yeah, I don't know what is up 

2057
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:41,200
with that by honestly what? 
I shouldn't say this. 

2058
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:49,100
Honestly, I have People that I 
know that live in LA and I feel 

2059
01:53:49,100 --> 01:53:53,300
like, I don't know them that 
well, but like, I feel like I've

2060
01:53:53,300 --> 01:53:57,000
heard that like, it's like a lot
more common for people in LA to 

2061
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,400
drink and drive. 
Yeah, it is for, like, people 

2062
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:01,500
out here in like real cities. 
Yeah. 

2063
01:54:01,500 --> 01:54:05,600
I could see us getting. 
I feel like when I'm back home, 

2064
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:08,900
like, in the suburbs, like, you 
know, you have to drive 

2065
01:54:08,900 --> 01:54:11,800
everywhere and I will get 
drinks. 

2066
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:14,800
And people, and usually, you 
just have one or maybe two but 

2067
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:17,100
like, it is Tricky. 
I don't know. 

2068
01:54:17,100 --> 01:54:20,100
Yeah, I'm not excusing it all. 
I think it's really bad. 

2069
01:54:20,100 --> 01:54:22,700
It's so dangerous. 
I mean they're lucky they didn't

2070
01:54:22,700 --> 01:54:24,900
kill anybody. 
They are of a yeah, place of 

2071
01:54:24,900 --> 01:54:27,400
privilege. 
They don't need to drive it all 

2072
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:30,300
if they get bored easily afford 
to have someone else read them. 

2073
01:54:30,300 --> 01:54:32,400
So the fact that they're not 
like thinking about that is 

2074
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:36,500
really inconsiderate they're so 
lucky that they only just got 

2075
01:54:36,500 --> 01:54:41,300
arrested but mmm. 
I do think that's more common. 

2076
01:54:41,900 --> 01:54:43,900
Yeah, spread out cities like 
that. 

2077
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:46,900
Totally, in November 2011, 
Lindsay actually went to jail. 

2078
01:54:46,900 --> 01:54:49,900
Again, she had to, I think she 
had to complete the deal time. 

2079
01:54:49,900 --> 01:54:52,500
She didn't finish last time. 
I don't really get how that 

2080
01:54:52,500 --> 01:54:54,400
works. 
Yeah, I don't know, I don't 

2081
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:55,500
understand. 
I wouldn't like that. 

2082
01:54:55,500 --> 01:55:01,400
So you let me out but I think 
because she, because she was let

2083
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:03,700
out, assuming she would do 
certain things and then she 

2084
01:55:03,700 --> 01:55:06,400
didn't do them. 
Yeah, like her probation. 

2085
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:15,600
So Yeah, I'm going to do but she
did talk about Samantha in 2012.

2086
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:17,200
She said, she had an interview 
with US. 

2087
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:19,800
Weekly normally wouldn't trust 
us. 

2088
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:21,600
We could but it seems like she 
actually talked to them. 

2089
01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,100
And she said, I was bold enough 
to say yeah. 

2090
01:55:24,100 --> 01:55:27,600
I like a girl and that put her 
in a situation where she was 

2091
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:29,600
being attacked every day. 
That's not fair. 

2092
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,600
And what am I left with? 
Heartbreak that was three years 

2093
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:34,000
ago. 
It was my last serious 

2094
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:36,800
relationship. 
I needed to love myself before I

2095
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:38,300
could be with anyone and I was 
going through. 

2096
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,800
Lot 2 stalks of people cannot be
together and of story or 

2097
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:43,400
friends. 
Now, that's how it started. 

2098
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,300
So I think that's what it's 
meant to be. 

2099
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,000
And yeah, it seemed like, it 
seemed like they are over now, 

2100
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:51,100
but it appears, they're still 
untouched because Samantha 

2101
01:55:51,500 --> 01:55:56,600
Lindsay was in a car crash, just
kissing and only things, I know 

2102
01:55:56,600 --> 01:56:01,900
it's crazy and there's video of 
Samantha's waiting for her car 

2103
01:56:01,900 --> 01:56:04,100
and like the valet, and she's 
smoking the cigarette. 

2104
01:56:04,300 --> 01:56:08,200
And this Paparazzi guy is like, 
did you hear about me? 

2105
01:56:08,500 --> 01:56:12,600
His car crashed and seems like 
what car crash and like, she's 

2106
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:14,900
in a car crash. 
You think he's okay, heard their

2107
01:56:14,900 --> 01:56:19,400
injuries and Sam's like, there 
were no injuries and there's 

2108
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:21,000
like, I heard it was pretty 
serious. 

2109
01:56:21,300 --> 01:56:23,000
And then seems like, I already 
talked to her. 

2110
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,700
She's fine. 
So, it appears, they're still in

2111
01:56:25,700 --> 01:56:28,100
touch. 
Here's where John Mayer comes 

2112
01:56:28,100 --> 01:56:30,000
out. 
June 2012. 

2113
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:33,800
Um, this was in that article 
that was like the dirty mind and

2114
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,300
lonely heart of John Mayer. 
I just spotted this. 

2115
01:56:36,300 --> 01:56:38,300
It said, I know this isn't that 
real? 

2116
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:41,000
Evan but we discovered him last 
episode. 

2117
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:44,100
It says, every time he sees a 
Paparazzi he can't help himself.

2118
01:56:44,100 --> 01:56:46,100
He's got to act out just the 
other day. 

2119
01:56:46,300 --> 01:56:49,000
He and his friend, the 
well-known lesbians meant the 

2120
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:51,900
Ronson engaged in a bit of a hot
up against the wall. 

2121
01:56:52,100 --> 01:56:56,100
Oral sex, silliness for the 
cameras, really good stuff and 

2122
01:56:56,100 --> 01:56:58,600
then there's a picture of him 
holding Sam. 

2123
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:02,400
Oh my God. 
That's like, are you? 

2124
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:06,000
I don't really know the oral sex
thing. 

2125
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:09,700
Yeah, they like pretended 
charades. 

2126
01:57:09,700 --> 01:57:12,700
Yeah, it's funny. 
Yeah. 

2127
01:57:12,700 --> 01:57:15,000
So, I mean, that's the end of 
the relationship really. 

2128
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:17,800
But there, they have talked more
about it. 

2129
01:57:18,100 --> 01:57:22,600
As always happens years later, 
like reveal more in. 2013 

2130
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:25,800
Samantha about their 
relationship relationship said, 

2131
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:29,300
yeah. 
Oops, and said she had panic 

2132
01:57:29,300 --> 01:57:31,300
attacks. 
All the time, and that she lost 

2133
01:57:31,300 --> 01:57:33,800
so much weight and had so much 
anxiety about her, public 

2134
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:39,900
relationship, with Lindsay and 
kind of controversially in 2013 

2135
01:57:39,900 --> 01:57:43,300
Lindsay had an interview with 
Piers Morgan and she said, I 

2136
01:57:43,300 --> 01:57:46,600
like, boys, I know I'm straight.
I haven't, I have made out with 

2137
01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:49,200
Girls before and I had a 
relationship with a girl, but I 

2138
01:57:49,208 --> 01:57:51,400
think I need to experience that 
and I think I was looking for 

2139
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:54,500
something different. 
She said she was in love with 

2140
01:57:54,500 --> 01:57:56,500
Samantha Ronson during the 
relationship and said, I still 

2141
01:57:56,500 --> 01:57:59,300
love her as a person. 
I like being in a relationship 

2142
01:57:59,300 --> 01:58:02,400
with a guy Lindsay said, but 
there's something just different

2143
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:04,000
about it with a woman. 
When I was with Samantha, I 

2144
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:06,100
didn't want to leave because I 
didn't want to be alone. 

2145
01:58:06,100 --> 01:58:08,700
It was very toxic, it is kind of
weird. 

2146
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:12,400
I mean, I trust Lindsay, but 
like it is kind of weird to be 

2147
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:15,900
like, before when she was dating
Sam to be like, I'm not going to

2148
01:58:15,900 --> 01:58:17,400
Define it, like I don't want to 
find it. 

2149
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:19,300
And then years later be like, 
no, I'm straight. 

2150
01:58:19,300 --> 01:58:21,300
I mean like and and Define it. 
You know what I mean? 

2151
01:58:21,300 --> 01:58:23,300
It's like that, that feels a 
little bit like Like 

2152
01:58:23,300 --> 01:58:25,700
heteronormative. 
I know, I really wonder what's 

2153
01:58:25,700 --> 01:58:28,900
going on there. 
It seems like it does come up 

2154
01:58:28,900 --> 01:58:30,900
again, but, it seems like she's 
really trying to distance 

2155
01:58:30,900 --> 01:58:34,200
herself. 
Yeah, whole relationship, which 

2156
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:37,800
is sad, but that would be really
traumatizing. 

2157
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:41,800
If I was Sam to be like, oh, oh,
oh, like, you don't. 

2158
01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:44,500
I know, like, you don't even 
think that, like, counted as 

2159
01:58:44,500 --> 01:58:48,700
like, I don't know. 
I hope Sam at least takes as a 

2160
01:58:48,708 --> 01:58:53,000
compliment that she was the only
woman that was really a ever. 

2161
01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:57,600
Had feelings for in 2014. 
This isn't really related at all

2162
01:58:57,600 --> 01:59:00,400
to her relationship with 
Samantha, but I don't know if 

2163
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:02,900
you've heard about this, there 
was like this list Lindsay made 

2164
01:59:02,900 --> 01:59:06,400
apparently on a piece of paper 
that was left behind in a hotel 

2165
01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:09,000
room. 
Some reason he knows, but it's 

2166
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:13,900
like a list of guys and it 
supposedly people think a list 

2167
01:59:13,900 --> 01:59:17,400
of guys she slept with and it's 
like a lot of famous people. 

2168
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:22,100
Wow. 
Um, and on the list it says Zac 

2169
01:59:22,100 --> 01:59:24,400
Efron, but it's spelled L 
drawing Z IC. 

2170
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:28,500
Ke F, FR o n, we got Adam 
Levine, Evan, Peters, James 

2171
01:59:28,500 --> 01:59:32,000
Franco and Justin Timberlake. 
There's so many people. 

2172
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:33,400
Yeah, I'm not surprised, but it 
doesn't. 

2173
01:59:34,700 --> 01:59:37,800
There's even Guy Berryman from 
Coldplay, which I was like, 

2174
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:40,800
what? 
Wait, Adam Levine, I'm not 

2175
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,000
surprised about that. 
It's Frank, he was Franco. 

2176
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:44,400
Yes, I am Peter. 
Yeah. 

2177
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:50,100
Oh my God, she later said that 
the list was actually from step 

2178
01:59:50,100 --> 01:59:53,200
five of Alcoholics Anonymous, 
which is the acknowledgement of 

2179
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:57,200
what One's past and wrongdoings 
cuz I was will their Wilmer 

2180
01:59:57,200 --> 02:00:00,300
Valderrama on the list? 
Let me see. 

2181
02:00:00,300 --> 02:00:02,600
Well, actually, a lot of the 
names have been blurred out for 

2182
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:05,700
whatever reason. 
Ok, but there's okay. 

2183
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:12,300
PC fell, I don't know. 
That is Jay Phoenix. 

2184
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:19,500
Lucas Joaquin, Phoenix. 
Yeah Mikoto rela Evan Peters. 

2185
02:00:19,500 --> 02:00:24,100
Yeah Builder builds around them,
Jamie Burke, Jamie Dornan, Zac 

2186
02:00:24,100 --> 02:00:28,300
Efron, spelled wrong, Justin 
Timberlake, Colin Farrell Heath 

2187
02:00:28,300 --> 02:00:31,500
Ledger Ryan rotman Max Green 
Guy. 

2188
02:00:31,500 --> 02:00:35,300
Berryman James Franco, Adam 
Levine Garrett Hedlund but for 

2189
02:00:35,300 --> 02:00:37,700
some reason her headlands No, 
other names. 

2190
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:39,700
All the other names are blurred 
out. 

2191
02:00:39,900 --> 02:00:44,600
Well, we can only assume I know.
It's just interesting that she 

2192
02:00:44,700 --> 02:00:46,800
did acknowledge that. 
That was her piece of paper. 

2193
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:58,400
I know why would those guys what
did you do to Evan Peters? 

2194
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:06,700
What did you do to him in 2017? 
Sam was on the podcast. 

2195
02:01:07,100 --> 02:01:12,400
Home Ophelia and she said a lot 
of interesting things about her 

2196
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:16,300
relationship with Lindsay and 
just some, I do interesting 

2197
02:01:16,300 --> 02:01:17,600
things, she said something about
that. 

2198
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:21,100
She was at the time. 
She was single and she was 

2199
02:01:21,100 --> 02:01:25,500
worried that she was alone 
because she because being gay is

2200
02:01:25,500 --> 02:01:28,300
against God. 
She's saying like sometimes I 

2201
02:01:28,300 --> 02:01:31,100
worry that I'm alone because 
it's grown, or now, that's a 

2202
02:01:31,108 --> 02:01:33,300
really sad. 
Um, she said about Lindsay. 

2203
02:01:33,300 --> 02:01:36,200
She said, she was known for 
being sexy and the fact that she

2204
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:38,800
was Unapologetic. 
Logic of unapologetic about it, 

2205
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:41,800
meaning like Unapologetic about 
being with her was so 

2206
02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:43,600
refreshing. 
And I will always appreciate 

2207
02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:45,700
that and have so much respect 
for that. 

2208
02:01:45,900 --> 02:01:49,300
She also said that she was a 
good influence on Lindsay and 

2209
02:01:49,300 --> 02:01:52,300
that she didn't do drugs. 
I was the only person who didn't

2210
02:01:52,300 --> 02:01:54,000
use her. 
I was the one thing. 

2211
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:56,900
The only thing that I was was 
that I was a woman in the 

2212
02:01:56,900 --> 02:01:58,600
beginning. 
Her publicist tried to tell her 

2213
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:02,200
to sway to not be public. 
She said that Lindsay's 

2214
02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:04,100
jealousy. 
Made it difficult for Sam to 

2215
02:02:04,100 --> 02:02:07,400
date anyone else. 
And also said, I would drive 

2216
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:10,100
like a maniac to escape 
Paparazzi and little did I know 

2217
02:02:10,100 --> 02:02:12,100
that she was telling them where 
we were going? 

2218
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:16,400
My God actually have some of 
these clips saved me back and 

2219
02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:18,900
play some. 
She had said that she was sober 

2220
02:02:18,900 --> 02:02:22,500
for three point five years. 
So that what she said she was 

2221
02:02:22,500 --> 02:02:23,800
sober for three and a half 
years. 

2222
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:26,800
I just wrote it. 
Yeah, she's such a nuisance over

2223
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:29,900
three and a half years so that 
would mean like around 2014. 

2224
02:02:29,900 --> 02:02:33,000
She stopped drinking. 
Yeah, Lindsay did no Sam's dead.

2225
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:36,700
Yeah, so yeah, she's still sober
to this, I'm gonna play. 

2226
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:39,300
A some clips actually. 
Yes, this is from home. 

2227
02:02:39,300 --> 02:02:41,300
Ophelia I thought that was a 
funny. 

2228
02:02:41,500 --> 02:02:44,400
Yeah. 
Title or if show name 

2229
02:03:15,500 --> 02:03:19,600
Stop drinking like three and a 
half years ago. and so every 

2230
02:03:19,600 --> 02:03:22,800
single so I notice now in 
people's like dating profile has

2231
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:27,700
like a glass of wine in it and 
like if your first like Photo oh

2232
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:30,200
nothing just saying like if your
first photo has that probably 

2233
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:35,200
not going to work out mmm 
conversation with her because it

2234
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:50,300
was just so public and just like
during that like because because

2235
02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:53,200
through the course of my 
relationships in the last like 

2236
02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:56,300
sent as he pretty much like find
a girlfriend, I came to New York

2237
02:03:56,300 --> 02:03:59,500
and I stayed at my mother's 
house with her everything fine 

2238
02:03:59,500 --> 02:04:02,600
unless our mother didn't like 
the human mentioning Moon Z 

2239
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:04,800
okay, I don't know what this one
is, just like, that's just what 

2240
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:12,900
it was and there was such like a
There was I guess I was so much 

2241
02:04:12,900 --> 02:04:16,500
- negativity about so many 
things in her life, but the best

2242
02:04:16,500 --> 02:04:18,400
thing she could possibly be was 
gay. 

2243
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:21,400
She know. 
It was the only thing that 

2244
02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:25,700
wasn't going to get her arrested
or rehab or whatever else. 

2245
02:04:25,700 --> 02:04:29,000
So like, it was kind of a 
positive in her life. 

2246
02:04:29,100 --> 02:04:31,300
People are rooting for her. 
Yeah. 

2247
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:35,800
So so kind of and that was the 
year that that Katy Perry song. 

2248
02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:39,900
Like I kissed a girl and I liked
it and I quantize I feel like 

2249
02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:42,400
Was a lot more Acceptance in 
general gay. 

2250
02:04:42,400 --> 02:04:47,400
People at the time at least I 
mean I wasn't such a bubble, I 

2251
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:49,900
should so greatly. 
I can't imagine. 

2252
02:04:50,300 --> 02:04:52,300
Yeah, I just can't imagine what 
that is for you. 

2253
02:04:52,400 --> 02:04:55,500
Well you know what was amazing 
about it for me was that I had 

2254
02:04:55,500 --> 02:05:00,100
been with this girl for a little
while for a while before who was

2255
02:05:00,500 --> 02:05:04,000
so in the closet that if I was 
at her house and a friend of 

2256
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:08,400
hers called and said I couldn't 
find parking, can I crash at 

2257
02:05:08,407 --> 02:05:09,900
your house? 
I had to leave. 

2258
02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:15,500
Wow, I couldn't Park in her 
garage in case think she's just 

2259
02:05:15,500 --> 02:05:19,900
saying Lindsay didn't do that. 
So she appreciated that Lucy is 

2260
02:05:19,900 --> 02:05:22,300
always have had I've won more I 
don't know what it is. 

2261
02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:33,300
Cars. 
Got key. 

2262
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:36,300
She may have moved in next door 
to me. 

2263
02:05:41,100 --> 02:06:01,900
Oh my God. 
The way I was with Paparazzi and

2264
02:06:01,900 --> 02:06:04,300
press and all that was so like 
keep my head down. 

2265
02:06:04,300 --> 02:06:08,900
Like I wasn't like those people 
wasn't like kind of figure out 

2266
02:06:08,900 --> 02:06:14,200
how to get famous off that. 
So even the paparazzi guys knew 

2267
02:06:14,200 --> 02:06:16,500
that. 
Hmm, look at that up. 

2268
02:06:17,400 --> 02:06:20,500
I like I was like the other 
things I wanted to do at me like

2269
02:06:20,500 --> 02:06:23,700
that. 
Like unhinged desire is like in 

2270
02:06:23,700 --> 02:06:26,500
people, it's like in everybody 
but I feel like if you're like, 

2271
02:06:27,100 --> 02:06:30,200
obviously abusing drugs and 
alcohol like Your intermissions 

2272
02:06:30,200 --> 02:06:33,400
are a just comes out. 
Yeah, I feel bad Feelin. 

2273
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:37,200
See, I know this crazy. 
It does seem like the way you 

2274
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:39,600
talk about it. 
It sounds so fairy in the past 

2275
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:41,500
like, so long ago. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2276
02:06:41,500 --> 02:06:43,500
Like even she's like oh like 
Lindsay. 

2277
02:06:43,500 --> 02:06:45,500
Like she's not like doing that 
now. 

2278
02:06:45,500 --> 02:06:49,300
Yeah, she's so out of the. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah sure. 

2279
02:06:49,300 --> 02:06:51,400
That she admired that Lindsay 
wasn't ashamed to be with her 

2280
02:06:51,400 --> 02:06:54,800
and she didn't try to hide it. 
And asked if it was lame that 

2281
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:57,400
she was on Raya and I thought 
was interesting. 

2282
02:06:57,400 --> 02:07:00,000
She said I mean I know this is 
new As you may guess, but she 

2283
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:04,200
said that she would like to have
a wife and a kid or husband. 

2284
02:07:04,300 --> 02:07:09,000
Oh, I hate their Raya exists. 
You know, I hate that. 

2285
02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:13,300
I know, I really good. 
So offencive that like somewhat 

2286
02:07:13,300 --> 02:07:15,400
famous people have a separate 
dating. 

2287
02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:18,600
I know why can't you just date a
normal person? 

2288
02:07:19,700 --> 02:07:21,400
Do you think you're so above 
everybody else? 

2289
02:07:21,400 --> 02:07:23,500
You could take me on a said, 
that's how I feel about TSA 

2290
02:07:23,500 --> 02:07:26,100
PreCheck and way. 
I think nobody should have this 

2291
02:07:26,100 --> 02:07:29,100
special thing because it's like,
are we in medieval Europe right 

2292
02:07:29,100 --> 02:07:32,700
now? 
I know it's like it's like surf 

2293
02:07:32,700 --> 02:07:36,600
ISM or whatever honestly Mel we 
do because honest differences 

2294
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:41,200
and we do true but yeah you have
to apply for a membership. 

2295
02:07:41,300 --> 02:07:43,900
I've never Pariah. 
I'm on it right now. 

2296
02:07:44,300 --> 02:07:46,800
The only button is apply for 
membership. 

2297
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:50,200
It's like you email got one. 
One of my friends have has 

2298
02:07:50,200 --> 02:07:52,800
friends on it. 
I can assure, you can guess. 

2299
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:55,700
Which one? 
Yes, can't believes meant the 

2300
02:07:55,700 --> 02:08:02,600
Ronson. 
I mean, It's people in the 

2301
02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:08,000
hallway. 
Paparazzi do you think we could 

2302
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:12,900
go on get on right? 
Because you just try it. 

2303
02:08:15,300 --> 02:08:18,100
No. 
You had to someone famous person

2304
02:08:18,100 --> 02:08:20,800
has like recommend you really 
the same? 

2305
02:08:21,300 --> 02:08:22,900
Wow. 
Any famous people. 

2306
02:08:25,300 --> 02:08:29,200
So then in 2018 Lindsay was on 
The Wendy Williams Show. 

2307
02:08:29,200 --> 02:08:33,700
I love when demons. 
You and Wendy asked her 

2308
02:08:33,700 --> 02:08:35,800
point-blank. 
If Lindsay considers herself 

2309
02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:38,900
sexually fluid and Lindsay said,
no. 

2310
02:08:38,900 --> 02:08:43,500
I like men and Wendy brought up 
her past with Samantha and 

2311
02:08:43,500 --> 02:08:46,000
Lindsay laughed and said I was 
living in La. 

2312
02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:49,000
I'm not saying it's a bad thing,
but, no, I'm not dating right 

2313
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:50,700
now. 
Where does she live now? 

2314
02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:56,200
Oh yeah, Greece or 82 by yeah. 
Oh yeah, Greece to, um, I don't 

2315
02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:57,800
know. 
I think that is crazy. 

2316
02:08:57,800 --> 02:09:01,200
It's just so interesting. 
I mean, it's her, it's not Up to

2317
02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:02,300
her. 
It's her life. 

2318
02:09:02,300 --> 02:09:06,300
I do think some people feel like
almost betrayed that onesie says

2319
02:09:06,300 --> 02:09:10,400
that you know like yeah. 
Isn't it actually blew it or 

2320
02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:11,700
anything? 
She said, I guess. 

2321
02:09:11,700 --> 02:09:15,000
You think he's speaking her 
truth and maybe you know, back 

2322
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:19,200
then maybe she felt like she was
bisexual and now she doesn't. 

2323
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:20,900
I think that's what kind of 
fluidity is. 

2324
02:09:20,900 --> 02:09:23,000
Yeah. 
I feel like someone is one said,

2325
02:09:23,000 --> 02:09:24,100
this me. 
It's like taste buds. 

2326
02:09:24,100 --> 02:09:26,500
It's like you like certain foods
and then you don't like certain 

2327
02:09:26,500 --> 02:09:27,500
foods. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2328
02:09:27,500 --> 02:09:30,400
I'm gonna goes. 
True. 

2329
02:09:30,700 --> 02:09:34,600
And she talked about again on 
Howard Stern and she said about 

2330
02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:36,800
Samantha. 
She said we were friends more 

2331
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:38,500
than anything. 
We were always more like best 

2332
02:09:38,500 --> 02:09:45,300
friends as well I don't I know I
don't think so maybe not yeah 

2333
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:48,500
yeah throw base of the one of 
our friend. 

2334
02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:50,200
I'm gonna play. 
I'm gonna play. 

2335
02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:52,600
I just want to hear ya. 
One of your Howard. 

2336
02:09:53,000 --> 02:09:56,300
I remember when you were dating 
Samantha Ronson that was wild. 

2337
02:09:56,500 --> 02:10:00,800
I didn't think that was talked 
about on the show you do What do

2338
02:10:00,800 --> 02:10:02,700
you say on the show about your 
friends? 

2339
02:10:02,700 --> 02:10:04,300
The only warning you are still 
friends. 

2340
02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:07,500
Well yeah we were always more 
like best friends. 

2341
02:10:07,600 --> 02:10:10,900
It's not your thing now, but no 
on the show. 

2342
02:10:10,900 --> 02:10:14,200
It's just a relation to one of 
Mike, who's one of the VIP host?

2343
02:10:14,300 --> 02:10:17,000
He says he's by and people were 
kind of mean to him about that, 

2344
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:19,200
right? 
But he's just like, well, if I 

2345
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:22,700
like what I like and I just 
don't know, isn't it remarkable?

2346
02:10:22,700 --> 02:10:25,500
Or it's like a, my come to his 
defense of it. 

2347
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:27,500
Did you say, hey, I was in a 
relationship with a girl. 

2348
02:10:27,500 --> 02:10:31,200
It's not a big deal a judgment. 
If people pass judgment on you 

2349
02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:35,000
during that time, oh my God. 
Why are people so goddamn angry?

2350
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:39,200
About the first one was like 
that came out about. 

2351
02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:42,600
Yeah, really. 
But why am I for my age? 

2352
02:10:42,700 --> 02:10:44,500
Why would you want to be angry 
about that? 

2353
02:10:44,500 --> 02:10:45,800
You know what I mean? 
That's the part. 

2354
02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:47,900
I don't get weird. 
It's vicious. 

2355
02:10:49,700 --> 02:10:51,600
I don't think that's true. 
That there are always more, 

2356
02:10:51,600 --> 02:11:02,100
friend know, if a relationship 
is born out of the friendship. 

2357
02:11:02,100 --> 02:11:04,500
I think that's beautiful. 
Yes, I don't think that was the 

2358
02:11:04,500 --> 02:11:06,600
case here. 
I know, I know, I don't think so

2359
02:11:06,600 --> 02:11:11,400
either her, screaming outside 
her house, being like your 

2360
02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:14,100
girlfriend. 
That's not a friend and on 

2361
02:11:14,100 --> 02:11:19,800
Brenda Okay, I actually have 
this also doesn't really pertain

2362
02:11:19,800 --> 02:11:21,300
to the relationship. 
I just want to share this with 

2363
02:11:21,300 --> 02:11:24,300
you. 
This is from August 4th 2020 in 

2364
02:11:24,300 --> 02:11:27,600
Sam posted this on her Instagram
and she said I know the social 

2365
02:11:27,600 --> 02:11:30,500
media prefers. 
I know social media prefers a 

2366
02:11:30,500 --> 02:11:33,500
negative post but that's not me 
and not my experience with the 

2367
02:11:33,500 --> 02:11:37,200
Ellen show over 15 years that 
I've known her and been hired by

2368
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:40,700
her before you start with. 
But your celebrity, I was hired 

2369
02:11:40,700 --> 02:11:43,000
by her, which makes me an 
employee, trust me. 

2370
02:11:43,000 --> 02:11:45,400
There are plenty of celebrities 
who hire me and treat me like 

2371
02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:47,900
shit, not her. 
She's always been kind and 

2372
02:11:47,900 --> 02:11:52,700
respectful and cool. 
Okay, that's all carry on, I 

2373
02:11:52,700 --> 02:11:55,000
like that. 
I like people defend people who 

2374
02:11:55,000 --> 02:11:59,000
are like getting, you know? 
Yeah, a huge backlash. 

2375
02:11:59,100 --> 02:12:01,700
Hmm. 
I mean, don't get me wrong. 

2376
02:12:01,700 --> 02:12:04,300
I do think Ellen, we've talked 
about this, I do think she 

2377
02:12:04,300 --> 02:12:05,600
obviously was mean to her staff 
of. 

2378
02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:09,600
Yeah, crazy with that Ellen's. 
Uh yeah, the guy who just died 

2379
02:12:09,600 --> 02:12:12,300
twitch which I'm oh yeah, so sad
about it. 

2380
02:12:13,100 --> 02:12:17,300
I literally was a huge fan of 
his but he People were saying 

2381
02:12:17,300 --> 02:12:20,100
online, I saw people being like,
he knew too much about Ellen, 

2382
02:12:20,100 --> 02:12:22,000
Larry fucking kid, so he was 
murdered. 

2383
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:23,400
Yeah. 
Like, are you kidding me? 

2384
02:12:23,400 --> 02:12:25,600
Food? 
V to know, because Ellen's, 

2385
02:12:25,900 --> 02:12:29,100
ex-girlfriend and hatch recently
died in the car accident. 

2386
02:12:29,100 --> 02:12:32,000
I think, people like Ann and 
hatch died recently. 

2387
02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:34,600
And then like, also Ellen had a 
girlfriend who died like 20 

2388
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:38,300
years ago in a car accident. 
Like, everybody died. 

2389
02:12:38,300 --> 02:12:39,900
I know like, literally everybody
dies. 

2390
02:12:39,900 --> 02:12:41,400
It's sad. 
But it's true. 

2391
02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:43,100
I've known to people to die this
year. 

2392
02:12:43,100 --> 02:12:48,700
Like that's one crazy. 
Like am I Just because Ellen, 

2393
02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:52,400
her reputation has been ruined. 
I don't understand why. 

2394
02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:53,800
That would mean someone would 
die. 

2395
02:12:53,800 --> 02:12:55,200
Yeah. 
Like, they need too much about 

2396
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:57,500
Elena and then. 
Yeah, that's team. 

2397
02:12:57,500 --> 02:13:00,600
Like, no, that's not the same. 
It's not the snow. 

2398
02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:02,200
People thought that Ellen was 
involved in. 

2399
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:04,200
I don't even that's it. 
Is there any evidence? 

2400
02:13:04,500 --> 02:13:07,400
And I don't think so. 
No I would she be involved in 

2401
02:13:07,400 --> 02:13:08,100
that? 
No. 

2402
02:13:08,100 --> 02:13:11,200
It's she was she had temper 
that. 

2403
02:13:11,200 --> 02:13:14,100
Yeah, that's not an like in 
everybody knows that. 

2404
02:13:14,100 --> 02:13:18,300
Like that's honestly so 
offensive to I know this 

2405
02:13:18,300 --> 02:13:21,000
person's family and then like 
also to Ellen, it's like she's 

2406
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:23,000
still a person at the end of the
day who's sad to her friend 

2407
02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:26,800
died, it's crazy. 
How awful people are crazy with 

2408
02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:29,300
it, like, let's forgive out, and
let's get over it. 

2409
02:13:29,400 --> 02:13:32,100
I mean, yeah, I'm sure she was 
very mean to people, but I like 

2410
02:13:32,100 --> 02:13:34,700
that. 
Samantha was just being like, I 

2411
02:13:34,700 --> 02:13:36,400
am going to stay up here. 
I don't think she should be, 

2412
02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:40,500
like, cast out of society. 
No, you know, Thailand is done 

2413
02:13:40,500 --> 02:13:44,000
way more good than bad for 
society and I feel like people 

2414
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:46,400
need to like, remember that? 
Yeah. 

2415
02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:50,600
Yeah. 
Apparently this year very 

2416
02:13:50,600 --> 02:13:56,400
recently, October 20, 22 - 
that's a mouthful Lindsay, 

2417
02:13:56,700 --> 02:14:00,700
apparently crashed, a party that
Mark Ronson was DJing at but 

2418
02:14:00,700 --> 02:14:03,500
they didn't speak to each other 
today. 

2419
02:14:03,800 --> 02:14:06,400
Samantha lives with her 
girlfriend and her girlfriends 

2420
02:14:06,400 --> 02:14:11,800
son, and she still makes music 
and still DJs. 

2421
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:14,400
She actually just because I 
recently followed her Instagram,

2422
02:14:14,400 --> 02:14:17,200
she was like, DJing here in New 
York, like the And I was like, 

2423
02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:19,000
well, what if we went? 
Wow. 

2424
02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:23,100
Yeah we asked your question. 
Yeah, excuse me. 

2425
02:14:23,500 --> 02:14:26,400
How did you guys are here? 
Yeah, I was wondering if this 

2426
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:29,600
would never happen but how 
insane that we'd actually have 

2427
02:14:29,800 --> 02:14:34,200
one of these people on our show?
I feel like if anyone is to 

2428
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:38,000
clearly show these Lindsay, 
maybe maybe but she she actually

2429
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:42,600
seems very private video. 
Um later in life Lindsay dated 

2430
02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:48,000
and was engaged to the Russian 
businessman Igor Tiber Salve who

2431
02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:50,600
may have been the love of her 
life that she referred to on 

2432
02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:54,000
Howard Stern. 
She also is dating the Crown 

2433
02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:58,900
Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed
bin Salman and she's been seen 

2434
02:14:58,900 --> 02:15:01,600
wearing a headscarf and holding 
the Quran says be like 

2435
02:15:01,600 --> 02:15:04,600
speculation or She's bring to 
Islam. 

2436
02:15:04,600 --> 02:15:09,300
But today she's married to this 
businessman, bad dare show my 

2437
02:15:09,300 --> 02:15:11,500
us. 
And she's been living in Dubai 

2438
02:15:11,800 --> 02:15:19,000
in Greece, in recent years and 
there has been times where it 

2439
02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:20,300
seems like her acts ahead 
change. 

2440
02:15:20,300 --> 02:15:24,800
Yeah I was almost speaking as if
she didn't know English sir, I 

2441
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:26,500
don't know. 
But she said it was because 

2442
02:15:26,500 --> 02:15:29,700
she's learning so many 
languages, including Arabic, 

2443
02:15:29,700 --> 02:15:32,400
Italian, Turkish, and that she 
knows French. 

2444
02:15:32,800 --> 02:15:35,900
So I don't she's had this like 
reality show and she like opened

2445
02:15:35,900 --> 02:15:39,300
a club and I think that closed 
but yeah now she seems like 

2446
02:15:39,300 --> 02:15:42,300
she's trying to get back into 
acting and I feel like there's a

2447
02:15:42,300 --> 02:15:43,900
new era for her. 
Yeah. 

2448
02:15:43,900 --> 02:15:45,400
I feel like she's doing. 
Okay. 

2449
02:15:45,500 --> 02:15:47,500
Yeah. 
I want I want the best for her 

2450
02:15:47,600 --> 02:15:49,100
me too. 
Yeah. 

2451
02:15:49,200 --> 02:15:51,400
It's very interesting. 
This holds You by thing. 

2452
02:15:51,500 --> 02:15:53,100
Yeah. 
So far away. 

2453
02:15:53,100 --> 02:15:55,300
I know I'm good. 
I really she needs to be. 

2454
02:15:55,300 --> 02:15:56,700
Yeah. 
Away from my life. 

2455
02:15:56,700 --> 02:16:01,500
Yeah, she got away and I read 
that she is treated like really 

2456
02:16:01,500 --> 02:16:02,400
well. 
Yeah. 

2457
02:16:02,600 --> 02:16:06,400
It seems like in Dubai, she's 
like a huge star. 

2458
02:16:06,600 --> 02:16:09,900
They're super proud to have her 
there and she's treated like 

2459
02:16:09,900 --> 02:16:11,100
royalty there. 
Apparently. 

2460
02:16:11,100 --> 02:16:13,300
So maybe that's why she enjoys 
living there. 

2461
02:16:13,700 --> 02:16:16,500
And also I guess they don't have
Paparazzi in Dubai. 

2462
02:16:16,500 --> 02:16:19,200
It's like a legal so. 
Oh that's so nice. 

2463
02:16:19,200 --> 02:16:21,900
Good for her. 
I feel like today Lindsay. 

2464
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:23,100
I don't know. 
It seems like she just has like 

2465
02:16:23,100 --> 02:16:27,600
this deeper like husky voice and
she sounds like this cool kind 

2466
02:16:27,600 --> 02:16:30,300
of I mean she's older now just 
like this cool lady who has like

2467
02:16:30,300 --> 02:16:32,400
a crazy past and like Nash 
doesn't care. 

2468
02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:36,100
Yeah, I yeah. 
She's really lucky that. 

2469
02:16:36,100 --> 02:16:38,000
Like nothing worse ever happen. 
I know. 

2470
02:16:38,000 --> 02:16:42,000
She's so lucky. 
Especially was like nowadays. 

2471
02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:45,000
Like I feel like people can't 
party the way they used to act 

2472
02:16:45,000 --> 02:16:48,299
like especially the fentanyl 
thing like it's scary. 

2473
02:16:48,400 --> 02:16:51,299
It's so dangerous yet guys. 
Be careful out there. 

2474
02:16:51,299 --> 02:16:53,700
Don't get inspired by his 
episode. 

2475
02:16:53,700 --> 02:16:57,100
Yeah this is a cautionary tale. 
Yeah because I mean really her 

2476
02:16:57,100 --> 02:17:00,400
career did kind of go off the 
rails and off. 

2477
02:17:00,400 --> 02:17:01,700
Yeah. 
The deep end. 

2478
02:17:01,700 --> 02:17:02,299
Yeah, no. 
Yeah. 

2479
02:17:02,500 --> 02:17:05,500
As to like rebuild it and yeah, 
and I feel like she'll never 

2480
02:17:05,500 --> 02:17:07,799
really be the same. 
I know it's sad. 

2481
02:17:10,100 --> 02:17:14,900
I do feel like, I mean this is 
speculating but I do think Sam 

2482
02:17:14,900 --> 02:17:17,400
was trying to be there for her 
and it seems like she did have 

2483
02:17:17,400 --> 02:17:21,000
problems too. 
You like to drink too much too 

2484
02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:28,000
but I feel like when you're that
far gone like you kind of can't 

2485
02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:32,700
be in a relationship like the 
person is either an enabler or 

2486
02:17:32,700 --> 02:17:35,600
it's toxic and that they're like
fighting with you all the time. 

2487
02:17:35,600 --> 02:17:38,700
That's true. 
Like no normal person can really

2488
02:17:38,700 --> 02:17:41,900
intervene enough to like I feel 
like I'm crying my voice to 

2489
02:17:41,900 --> 02:17:45,100
really help you Mel is on the 
verge of tears. 

2490
02:17:47,400 --> 02:17:51,400
Well, that is really all 
Samantha in Lindsay, Lindsay, 

2491
02:17:51,400 --> 02:17:55,200
and Samantha likelihood that 
they'll go back together well 

2492
02:17:55,200 --> 02:17:59,600
now, Lindsay's married. 
She is yeah, did I say that? 

2493
02:17:59,600 --> 02:18:03,200
Yeah, sorry, I didn't know, 
she's married. 

2494
02:18:04,100 --> 02:18:07,700
I actually got married. 
Yeah, I guess I glossed over 

2495
02:18:07,700 --> 02:18:13,200
that she is married. 
Realize that but Smith is the 

2496
02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:14,900
only woman who's ever been 
attracted to. 

2497
02:18:15,100 --> 02:18:17,799
I don't want Smith is with 
someone now to, I don't think 

2498
02:18:17,799 --> 02:18:20,299
they'll get back. 
I know I would say gun to my 

2499
02:18:20,299 --> 02:18:21,000
head. 
You know. 

2500
02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:26,100
One of these 015 I think there's
nothing is impossible. 

2501
02:18:26,100 --> 02:18:29,200
Yeah. 
And we see that zero for 

2502
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:34,299
somebody who was it. 
It was like a living couple of. 

2503
02:18:35,400 --> 02:18:42,700
Was it Taylor and John, maybe he
was just like a friendly 

2504
02:18:42,700 --> 02:18:47,400
sidekick in this episode their 
insides. 

2505
02:18:47,400 --> 02:18:49,500
Yeah, so that's Lindsay and Sam.
I know it's so funny. 

2506
02:18:49,500 --> 02:18:53,600
How people are like different 
areas depending on like the 

2507
02:18:53,600 --> 02:18:55,400
prospective? 
Yeah. 

2508
02:18:55,400 --> 02:18:57,799
I wonder if we'll see them again
in another episode. 

2509
02:18:58,200 --> 02:19:00,000
Who knows? 
Yeah, probably. 

2510
02:19:00,100 --> 02:19:04,000
Hmm. 
Our next episode is a complete 

2511
02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:07,299
180, probably couldn't be more 
different. 

2512
02:19:07,400 --> 02:19:08,799
It's going to be a bonus 
episode. 

2513
02:19:08,900 --> 02:19:17,100
It's about a fling, but with a 
famous British author from 

2514
02:19:17,100 --> 02:19:22,400
hundreds of years ago, I love it
at the Historical Society. 

2515
02:19:22,400 --> 02:19:25,200
Our historic, we've been saying 
that it's like in our 

2516
02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:27,799
description but we hadn't really
done it yet. 

2517
02:19:29,000 --> 02:19:30,500
Yeah. 
So it's very, very, very 

2518
02:19:30,500 --> 02:19:33,100
different from This episode 
cool. 

2519
02:19:33,100 --> 02:19:36,700
But I think if you guys like, 
you know, reading between the 

2520
02:19:36,700 --> 02:19:40,400
lines and things if you enjoy, 
like the Taylor Swift episode, 

2521
02:19:40,400 --> 02:19:43,700
where you kind of like, read the
lyrics and speculate, I think 

2522
02:19:43,700 --> 02:19:45,900
you will like this one. 
Yeah, I like those analysis. 

2523
02:19:45,900 --> 02:19:49,600
Mm-hmm. 
So now that the episodes over 

2524
02:19:49,700 --> 02:19:53,600
we're gonna reflect on 2022. 
Yes. 

2525
02:19:53,800 --> 02:19:58,700
We had what 18 episodes are fun,
very fun. 

2526
02:19:58,700 --> 02:20:02,100
We started the podcast and 
August We're just getting 

2527
02:20:02,100 --> 02:20:06,800
started. 
What was the most surprising 

2528
02:20:06,800 --> 02:20:12,600
couple to you so far. 
Good question, um-hmm. 

2529
02:20:14,300 --> 02:20:21,200
I didn't expect to really like 
Charles and Camilla. 

2530
02:20:22,700 --> 02:20:24,800
What about, how would you answer
that question? 

2531
02:20:25,300 --> 02:20:29,500
I would say, I was most 
surprised, I think by Nick and 

2532
02:20:29,500 --> 02:20:31,200
Miley Cyrus. 
Yeah. 

2533
02:20:31,400 --> 02:20:34,400
Yeah, I really didn't think it 
would be. 

2534
02:20:34,400 --> 02:20:36,700
I don't know that interesting. 
I was like doubtful because it 

2535
02:20:36,700 --> 02:20:38,400
was so young. 
I was like okay what is this 

2536
02:20:38,400 --> 02:20:40,200
going to be? 
But it was actually so cute. 

2537
02:20:40,200 --> 02:20:43,400
Yeah that one I didn't expect 
the time line was so long to I 

2538
02:20:43,400 --> 02:20:45,600
feel like that's the one that is
most likely to get back 

2539
02:20:45,600 --> 02:20:48,200
together. 
Yeah, I know we'll see. 

2540
02:20:49,000 --> 02:20:51,200
Who else? 
I feel like there was like a lot

2541
02:20:51,200 --> 02:20:55,700
of Revelations that shocked me. 
Zach. 

2542
02:20:55,700 --> 02:21:01,200
And Vanessa, I was surprised by 
how involved, Ashley Tisdale was

2543
02:21:01,300 --> 02:21:04,800
that was surprising. 
The Taylor Swift ones. 

2544
02:21:04,800 --> 02:21:09,500
I never knew all the details 
that you found out and 

2545
02:21:09,500 --> 02:21:11,000
especially like the John Mayer 
one. 

2546
02:21:11,000 --> 02:21:13,600
I mean, that was denied blowing,
see that? 

2547
02:21:13,600 --> 02:21:16,000
He was just on that podcast? 
Call her daddy. 

2548
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:19,300
Oh, I heard of yeah he didn't 
really talk about. 

2549
02:21:19,400 --> 02:21:22,600
He didn't talk about Taylor 
Swift though, but he did say 

2550
02:21:22,700 --> 02:21:24,700
they're going to say he didn't 
talk about our book. 

2551
02:21:25,700 --> 02:21:28,500
But he did say, like, he was, 
like, I get so annoyed of people

2552
02:21:28,500 --> 02:21:30,100
get. 
So obsessed with people thinking

2553
02:21:30,100 --> 02:21:32,100
these songs are about people 
because like music. 

2554
02:21:32,200 --> 02:21:34,200
Alright? 
One line about someone and then 

2555
02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:37,500
one line about someone else. 
And then like everybody just 

2556
02:21:37,500 --> 02:21:41,300
like takes that interesting, 
what would you say was your 

2557
02:21:41,300 --> 02:21:47,500
favorite episode that I led? 
And also that for you to move 

2558
02:21:48,300 --> 02:21:52,400
that you led. 
I need to look at the list, you 

2559
02:21:52,408 --> 02:21:55,000
know, I had to list up. 
Oh, I know. 

2560
02:21:55,000 --> 02:21:58,800
I know, I know. 
Let me see. 

2561
02:21:59,200 --> 02:22:02,400
My favorite that. 
You do word. 

2562
02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:09,800
Is just want to make sure I'm 
looking at all of them. 

2563
02:22:10,000 --> 02:22:16,100
None of them Charles and 
Camilla, but very close to that 

2564
02:22:16,100 --> 02:22:21,300
would be Olivia and Jason 
really, wow, that was funny. 

2565
02:22:22,100 --> 02:22:24,000
What would you say is your 
favorite of mine? 

2566
02:22:24,000 --> 02:22:26,800
I would definitely say. 
James Taylor and Carly Simon. 

2567
02:22:26,800 --> 02:22:29,200
I love you. 
That one was fun. 

2568
02:22:29,200 --> 02:22:31,900
I really stuck with me. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2569
02:22:34,100 --> 02:22:35,500
I didn't think of the second 
place one. 

2570
02:22:35,500 --> 02:22:40,000
But maybe looks like he should 
we like, call like a listener 

2571
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:42,100
and see what like their favorite
would be. 

2572
02:22:42,100 --> 02:22:52,500
Maybe, maybe a girl ready. 
But can you bring okay? 

2573
02:22:52,500 --> 02:22:57,500
We have a listener on the line. 
What is your name? 

2574
02:22:57,500 --> 02:23:02,500
And where are you from? 
My name is Kayla. 

2575
02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:09,400
From Western New York. 
Oh wow, wow, okay. 

2576
02:23:10,300 --> 02:23:14,100
And how long have you been a 
listener of the podcast since 

2577
02:23:14,100 --> 02:23:14,800
day one? 
So. 

2578
02:23:14,900 --> 02:23:18,200
Oh, okay. 
Okay. 

2579
02:23:18,200 --> 02:23:22,800
And now what was your favorite 
episode of 2022? 

2580
02:23:22,900 --> 02:23:28,200
So far, my favorite episode 20, 
22. 

2581
02:23:30,500 --> 02:23:37,200
So many but weirdly I'd have Say
the Jason and Olivia episode. 

2582
02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:41,200
It's really yeah, I know my God 
speculative and like the most 

2583
02:23:41,200 --> 02:23:45,000
like pop culture and usually 
think they're all pop culture. 

2584
02:23:47,900 --> 02:23:50,300
I didn't expect to like it as 
much because it's so like 

2585
02:23:50,300 --> 02:23:54,900
current and you know but it had 
me on the edge of my seat. 

2586
02:23:54,900 --> 02:23:58,700
Really my car seat because I was
listening to it while I was in 

2587
02:23:58,700 --> 02:24:03,500
the car on a long drive but 
there's so much about It that 

2588
02:24:03,500 --> 02:24:06,300
just completely shocked me. 
I knew none of the story prior 

2589
02:24:06,300 --> 02:24:09,600
besides, you know, you know, I 
knew that they were together. 

2590
02:24:09,800 --> 02:24:12,400
I didn't know for how long and 
knew about the hairstyle stuff 

2591
02:24:12,400 --> 02:24:13,000
by the. 
Yeah. 

2592
02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:16,300
Anything about them being 
married before and just the 

2593
02:24:16,300 --> 02:24:19,400
whole timeline of events and it 
was just a big surprise me and I

2594
02:24:19,800 --> 02:24:24,100
just there being so much, I 
really liked thank you for that 

2595
02:24:24,100 --> 02:24:27,800
nice to hear because it's me 
Kelly. 

2596
02:24:27,800 --> 02:24:30,300
Um, that was actually, I think 
my least favorite episode that, 

2597
02:24:30,300 --> 02:24:33,100
I almost or like LED. 
Yeah. 

2598
02:24:33,700 --> 02:24:35,800
Is interesting. 
What was your as a listener? 

2599
02:24:35,800 --> 02:24:38,400
What was your least favorite 
episode? 

2600
02:24:39,700 --> 02:24:42,400
I'm gonna. 
Sorry you can say one that I did

2601
02:24:42,400 --> 02:24:46,200
one that Kelly did, okay. 
For some reason, the only one 

2602
02:24:46,200 --> 02:24:49,000
that's coming to mind and I 
don't know why. 

2603
02:24:49,500 --> 02:24:54,900
I think it's the Blake Lively 
and pain back pain, Badgley, I 

2604
02:24:54,908 --> 02:24:57,400
don't know, I'm just wasn't 
really invested in them as a 

2605
02:24:57,400 --> 02:24:59,500
couple and they didn't have 
much. 

2606
02:25:00,600 --> 02:25:08,500
Yeah. 
About them as a couple. 

2607
02:25:08,500 --> 02:25:12,000
I think that is what people have
to tell themselves when they're 

2608
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:14,200
going through. 
A messy breakup is, you know, 

2609
02:25:14,200 --> 02:25:17,500
this is hard. 
But it's a more interesting 

2610
02:25:17,500 --> 02:25:20,200
story. 
That's true. 

2611
02:25:20,300 --> 02:25:23,500
You know, you don't want to have
a an amicable breakup and then 

2612
02:25:23,500 --> 02:25:26,600
it's boring. 
No one's going to care about it.

2613
02:25:26,600 --> 02:25:28,700
That's true. 
Also, it's kind of like what you

2614
02:25:28,708 --> 02:25:32,100
guys always say like that was a 
big relationship for the both of

2615
02:25:32,108 --> 02:25:35,100
them and now they've gone on And
have like bigger relations. 

2616
02:25:35,100 --> 02:25:36,100
Yeah. 
Exactly. 

2617
02:25:36,100 --> 02:25:37,900
You know. 
So it's really matters a lot and

2618
02:25:37,908 --> 02:25:41,600
you know it's true. 
Yeah I think my least favorite 

2619
02:25:41,600 --> 02:25:45,200
episode that I personally did 
was either cared to Levine 

2620
02:25:45,200 --> 02:25:51,000
Ashley Benson because also not 
much drama and Vanessa crazy 

2621
02:25:51,000 --> 02:25:53,000
dogs. 
There's some crazy things that 

2622
02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:55,200
no Kara did. 
Yeah. 

2623
02:25:55,500 --> 02:25:58,300
It's like I feel like early on. 
I did a lot more of like the 

2624
02:25:58,300 --> 02:26:00,400
little details in people's 
relationships like they were 

2625
02:26:00,400 --> 02:26:01,500
spotted here. 
It's about it. 

2626
02:26:01,500 --> 02:26:03,100
They're like that. 
Only really. 

2627
02:26:03,200 --> 02:26:05,700
Works like if you don't know 
that they were really dating 

2628
02:26:05,700 --> 02:26:07,700
like BJ & Mindy. 
Yeah. 

2629
02:26:07,700 --> 02:26:10,200
Don't you mean which? 
I think? 

2630
02:26:10,200 --> 02:26:13,200
I really like BJ & Mindy. 
But I almost feel like people 

2631
02:26:13,300 --> 02:26:15,900
think of us as a BJ. 
My God. 

2632
02:26:17,600 --> 02:26:22,300
Yeah, because it's like, our 
first episode and the most 

2633
02:26:22,300 --> 02:26:27,000
popular Listen to, I've kind of 
grown to not like the Mindy and 

2634
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:31,700
BJ episode. 
Okay, I like it. 

2635
02:26:31,700 --> 02:26:32,600
I like it. 
I like it. 

2636
02:26:35,300 --> 02:26:39,600
Thank you, it's because I like 
it. 

2637
02:26:40,200 --> 02:26:45,900
Well, Mindy keeps writing in her
shows like Mindy and BJ 

2638
02:26:45,900 --> 02:26:48,800
storyline. 
And if they are kind of 

2639
02:26:48,800 --> 02:26:52,400
following what it's like in real
life, I don't know what just, 

2640
02:26:52,600 --> 02:26:56,000
yeah, I don't support it or like
it and that's something on the 

2641
02:26:56,008 --> 02:26:58,300
episode. 
It's just, I don't really it's 

2642
02:26:58,300 --> 02:27:02,300
tainted. 
The couple BJ & Mindy together. 

2643
02:27:02,300 --> 02:27:05,200
Okay, Yeah, you've seen too much
of it. 

2644
02:27:05,200 --> 02:27:06,900
Yeah, I've seen too much. 
I want to see. 

2645
02:27:06,900 --> 02:27:12,700
I want like, for my hopes for 
2023 with that couple that like 

2646
02:27:12,700 --> 02:27:17,600
we just throw a wrench in it and
like, and like Vince, like, I 

2647
02:27:17,600 --> 02:27:20,600
don't know, like Mindy starts 
like a serious really would 

2648
02:27:20,600 --> 02:27:22,900
Jason Sudeikis. 
Oh, that's crazy. 

2649
02:27:22,900 --> 02:27:24,900
Perfect. 
We can cover them. 

2650
02:27:24,900 --> 02:27:29,700
Yes, Mindy and Jason Sudeikis, 
and BJ is off on The Silo. 

2651
02:27:29,700 --> 02:27:33,000
What I know, I know I need 
someone different because B of 

2652
02:27:33,300 --> 02:27:35,300
True book. 
Yeah, I'm tired of because I 

2653
02:27:35,300 --> 02:27:38,500
used to watch The Mindy Project 
and I watched never have I ever 

2654
02:27:38,800 --> 02:27:40,900
and Halen sexual. 
It's a college girls and they 

2655
02:27:40,900 --> 02:27:44,000
all have the same relationship. 
Yeah. 

2656
02:27:44,000 --> 02:27:45,500
And it just getting tiring. 
So yeah. 

2657
02:27:45,500 --> 02:27:48,200
Mindy pick someone other than 
the yeah. 

2658
02:27:48,200 --> 02:27:52,300
I know back type character but 
for someone who isn't as exposed

2659
02:27:52,300 --> 02:27:58,800
to it all as you maybe I think 
that appealed is yeah, yeah. 

2660
02:27:58,800 --> 02:28:02,800
So New Year who your any couples
listener that you would like us 

2661
02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:04,300
to cover? 
Over in the new year. 

2662
02:28:04,800 --> 02:28:11,700
Um, well, mmm as someone who is 
a big history buff, I am at some

2663
02:28:11,700 --> 02:28:13,500
point looking forward to, I 
don't know. 

2664
02:28:13,500 --> 02:28:16,500
Like a more historical type 
couple. 

2665
02:28:16,800 --> 02:28:20,300
Mmm. 
Yes, might not, you might like 

2666
02:28:20,300 --> 02:28:22,800
our next episode. 
Yeah. 

2667
02:28:23,800 --> 02:28:30,900
Maybe you know what? 
Because of that we're going to 

2668
02:28:30,900 --> 02:28:35,600
invite you to be a guest on. 
Our next episodes Doric episode 

2669
02:28:35,600 --> 02:28:39,300
really? 
Yeah yes for saying that I'll be

2670
02:28:39,300 --> 02:28:47,300
there actually it's excited. 
I know a lot of people have 

2671
02:28:47,300 --> 02:28:50,300
suggested episodes and I'm 
excited to do some of the ones 

2672
02:28:50,300 --> 02:28:53,600
that people have suggested me to
there's some of them want some 

2673
02:28:53,600 --> 02:28:57,700
of them like to cover them. 
Yeah. 

2674
02:28:58,700 --> 02:29:02,400
We're listening but I think one 
piece of feedback or one thing 

2675
02:29:02,400 --> 02:29:06,200
that someone said was you know 
it's like there was a lot a 

2676
02:29:06,200 --> 02:29:09,600
depressing love stories that 
we've covered so far in a lot of

2677
02:29:09,600 --> 02:29:12,100
them the men they don't want 
that good. 

2678
02:29:12,300 --> 02:29:16,400
Yeah. 
So I do want a love story where 

2679
02:29:16,900 --> 02:29:22,100
I feel like I have a restored. 
Faith in love my friend. 

2680
02:29:22,100 --> 02:29:23,900
Brittany she listens to the 
podcast. 

2681
02:29:24,200 --> 02:29:26,100
Hi Brittany. 
You're so funny. 

2682
02:29:26,100 --> 02:29:28,100
She's cracking me up because we 
were talking about how all the 

2683
02:29:28,100 --> 02:29:30,500
men are. 
Are so bad and then she went 

2684
02:29:30,500 --> 02:29:32,400
well except for Penn Badgley, he
didn't. 

2685
02:29:34,400 --> 02:29:58,900
Yeah, we're John Mayer. 
Me. 

2686
02:29:59,400 --> 02:30:01,600
Yeah. 
Oh James Taylor wasn't that 

2687
02:30:01,600 --> 02:30:11,100
good? 
John Lennon yeah is that okay? 

2688
02:30:12,000 --> 02:30:19,200
Yeah a lot of females here 
tonight. 

2689
02:30:23,400 --> 02:30:27,200
Yeah this has been great for the
guys. 

2690
02:30:28,500 --> 02:30:35,900
It's a reflection of, you know 
life it's a mirror to yeah, Dave

2691
02:30:35,900 --> 02:30:46,300
Coulier oh yeah. 
I mean, my guilty pleasure. 

2692
02:30:46,300 --> 02:30:57,900
But yeah, he is not great. 
Justin Timberlake, even Tom 

2693
02:30:57,900 --> 02:31:02,400
Brady. 
Oh yeah, I do think. 

2694
02:31:02,400 --> 02:31:06,000
Okay, as for guys, that are 
okay, I would say Penn Badgley 

2695
02:31:06,000 --> 02:31:09,400
Nick Jonas, Jonas. 
Yeah, wouldn't really do um, 

2696
02:31:09,400 --> 02:31:11,500
Jake Gyllenhaal. 
Yeah. 

2697
02:31:12,100 --> 02:31:14,600
Brad Pitt was good in that 
episode actually toy for a boat 

2698
02:31:14,600 --> 02:31:17,000
that. 
Yeah, he was fine until I looked

2699
02:31:17,000 --> 02:31:19,200
at it. 
Oh, Drake, I don't know. 

2700
02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:23,900
Yeah, I'm not gonna say, Drake 
is like, amazing. 

2701
02:31:25,300 --> 02:31:29,100
He, he just came off as like a 
sad boy and episode. 

2702
02:31:30,400 --> 02:31:35,400
Well, you know, we really wish 
you guys the best in 2023, and 

2703
02:31:35,400 --> 02:31:38,500
we hope that we can have a lot 
of fun together. 

2704
02:31:38,700 --> 02:31:41,000
Let's make it the best Year 
everyone. 

2705
02:31:42,200 --> 02:31:45,800
Yeah, big things. 
Big things are coming. 

2706
02:31:46,500 --> 02:31:48,000
All your wishes are good 
country. 

2707
02:31:49,500 --> 02:31:54,700
Okay, thanks for listening 
together. 

2708
02:31:54,700 --> 02:31:56,200
Next week. 
Bye.