1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:08,640 Are you long time tonight? Do you miss me tonight? 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:19,120 Are you sorry we dressed apart? Welcome to Significant Lovers. 3 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,430 I'm Kel. And thanks for joining us, 4 00:00:23,430 --> 00:00:25,870 everybody. This is our second episode. 5 00:00:26,190 --> 00:00:28,630 Wow, which is? Super exciting. 6 00:00:28,950 --> 00:00:31,270 Thank you to everyone who's listened and supported so. 7 00:00:31,270 --> 00:00:33,550 Far. We're actually recording this 8 00:00:33,550 --> 00:00:35,990 before any episodes have come out, so. 9 00:00:36,350 --> 00:00:38,350 Yeah, I'm. Hoping that people can. 10 00:00:38,550 --> 00:00:40,630 Look at it. Same. 11 00:00:40,630 --> 00:00:42,030 Same. Yeah. 12 00:00:42,030 --> 00:00:46,630 Thanks so much for being here. Super excited today. 13 00:00:46,990 --> 00:00:50,710 Mel is taking the reins again. Yep, super. 14 00:00:50,950 --> 00:00:54,190 Fun episode, so I know I teased it last time. 15 00:00:54,790 --> 00:01:01,230 Today I'm covering Ashley Benson and Cara Delevingne. 16 00:01:02,310 --> 00:01:05,069 It's our first same sex couple. Wow. 17 00:01:05,069 --> 00:01:07,190 And it's our second episode. Yeah. 18 00:01:10,420 --> 00:01:11,940 I'm intrigued. I'm excited. 19 00:01:11,940 --> 00:01:14,860 I really don't know much about their relationship. 20 00:01:14,980 --> 00:01:19,420 Yeah, I felt like they they were, they were like necessarily 21 00:01:19,420 --> 00:01:24,620 super surprising, but in a way they kind of were like it just 22 00:01:24,780 --> 00:01:27,380 it was very casual and I feel like people didn't really talk 23 00:01:27,380 --> 00:01:31,060 about it enough. Yeah, I was weirdly obsessed 24 00:01:31,060 --> 00:01:37,100 with Cara Delevingne. Like, back in. 2011, 2010, 2012 25 00:01:37,140 --> 00:01:39,340 whenever like that's. Exactly what they wanted. 26 00:01:40,460 --> 00:01:44,380 To be my God, yeah, I would like, make collages with her in 27 00:01:44,380 --> 00:01:46,700 them. Yeah, like, I was obsessed 28 00:01:47,420 --> 00:01:49,060 because I thought she was so cool. 29 00:01:49,060 --> 00:01:53,780 She fit in with the whole like, indie Tumblr vibe, you know? 30 00:01:54,540 --> 00:01:56,140 Did you watch? Pretty Little Liars. 31 00:01:56,140 --> 00:01:58,100 No, I didn't. So I was gonna ask you, because 32 00:01:58,140 --> 00:01:58,980 I did. I don't know. 33 00:01:58,980 --> 00:02:02,060 Ashley Benson. She's most famous for her role 34 00:02:02,060 --> 00:02:04,420 in Pretty Little Liars. PLL What? 35 00:02:04,540 --> 00:02:06,340 Was her character like in that series? 36 00:02:06,420 --> 00:02:13,820 Her character was in the first season. 37 00:02:13,820 --> 00:02:17,660 She was kind of like, she was popular. 38 00:02:17,940 --> 00:02:21,460 She kind of like had ditched the other friends the past year or 39 00:02:21,460 --> 00:02:24,580 so to hang out with this other girl, Mona, who was like, cool 40 00:02:24,580 --> 00:02:28,040 now. And she also, I think, had an 41 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,880 eating disorder and stole things. 42 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,400 I think that was like her thing, her secret because they all had, 43 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,920 like they all had secrets, you know? 44 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,440 But that became like less of a plot point as it went on. 45 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,000 But she was kind of funny. Like, I think her character 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,360 evolved to be more like down to earth And the comical one, I 47 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,520 would say, yeah, I don't know. I used to love Little Liars. 48 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,360 Then it got like, so insane. I mean, maybe it was insane 49 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,080 finish. It all did. 50 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,800 You. No, I never did. 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,840 I think I watched like some clips on YouTube, but it got so 52 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,880 crazy. I don't know if anyone listening 53 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,720 watched it probably, but yeah. I know. 54 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,000 I think I tried to watch like one episode or something and I 55 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,440 couldn't follow so. I read the books too, which they 56 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,000 didn't really like. Stick to the books, but I used 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,800 to be, like, obsessed. Yeah. 58 00:03:17,620 --> 00:03:21,620 So I'm I'm kind of invested in this episode. 59 00:03:22,660 --> 00:03:25,660 Yeah, yeah, 2. Two former people that used to. 60 00:03:25,980 --> 00:03:27,940 Yeah, yeah. Follow. 61 00:03:28,020 --> 00:03:30,980 Yeah. Although I was more into um, 62 00:03:31,620 --> 00:03:34,140 Aria, Lucy Hale, Lucy Hill, yeah. 63 00:03:34,820 --> 00:03:38,220 I feel like Lucy Hale doesn't hang out with the rest of the 64 00:03:38,220 --> 00:03:39,860 girls. If you look on Instagram, it's 65 00:03:39,860 --> 00:03:42,860 like Shane Mitchell and. Shane Mitchell's beautiful. 66 00:03:43,220 --> 00:03:45,580 She's so good. And Ashley Benson and then the 67 00:03:45,580 --> 00:03:47,300 other one. I played Spencer. 68 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:50,140 I don't know her name. Troy and. 69 00:03:50,740 --> 00:03:54,300 Yeah, they always are. Like a little threesome. 70 00:03:54,980 --> 00:03:57,100 Weird Lucy Hale. Interesting. 71 00:03:57,460 --> 00:03:59,700 Lucy, if you're listening, what's up with that? 72 00:04:00,420 --> 00:04:03,980 Yeah. But yeah, I guess I'll just, 73 00:04:04,060 --> 00:04:08,780 I'll get into it guys. So Ashley Benson as we talked 74 00:04:08,860 --> 00:04:12,860 about, so she's from Anaheim Hills, CA. 75 00:04:13,940 --> 00:04:15,980 Disneyland, right? California girl. 76 00:04:16,060 --> 00:04:19,980 Yeah, California girl. Her mom's name is Shannon. 77 00:04:20,620 --> 00:04:22,220 That's my. Middle name? 78 00:04:22,220 --> 00:04:22,460 Wow. She's. 79 00:04:23,020 --> 00:04:24,740 A mom. Her mom, Shannon. 80 00:04:24,740 --> 00:04:26,660 Her dad. His name is Jeff. 81 00:04:26,660 --> 00:04:29,060 He owned grocery stores. Mine. 82 00:04:29,060 --> 00:04:30,820 Still some. You know, they're upper middle 83 00:04:30,820 --> 00:04:32,140 class. Yeah. 84 00:04:32,180 --> 00:04:34,060 She's an older sister. Shailene. 85 00:04:34,620 --> 00:04:35,820 Her family's. Like that name? 86 00:04:36,020 --> 00:04:39,500 Yeah, I like it. Too, her family's very Christian 87 00:04:39,540 --> 00:04:42,440 and conservative. And some people in Reddit do 88 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,760 think that her mom is a little bit homophobic. 89 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,840 So, you know, I can't speak to that. 90 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,080 I don't know if that's the case, but she is a little bit less, 91 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:57,720 like, vocal about being queer than Kara is, so maybe that has 92 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,160 to do with it. But also she is like love is 93 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,720 love. So she does post the like 94 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,560 private stuff. Her name? 95 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:04,480 Nickname. Did you know this? 96 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,880 It's Benzo. I didn't know Benzo. 97 00:05:08,670 --> 00:05:10,950 So if you're saying. Can we refer to her as that? 98 00:05:10,950 --> 00:05:15,390 That's what I'm talking about. I have a feeling like based off 99 00:05:15,390 --> 00:05:18,790 of like her mom's Instagram that I went through that like there 100 00:05:18,790 --> 00:05:24,350 was maybe a little bit of stage parent fish just looking at 101 00:05:24,350 --> 00:05:26,310 pictures of her from when she was young. 102 00:05:27,100 --> 00:05:29,660 And I don't know if that's really the case, but she began 103 00:05:29,660 --> 00:05:33,500 dance at three years old. And from dance she did a lot of 104 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:35,340 modeling and like dance catalogs. 105 00:05:35,980 --> 00:05:40,060 And then from that at age 7, she was signed by Ford Models. 106 00:05:40,820 --> 00:05:44,380 And then from there she did like a ton of commercials and like a 107 00:05:44,380 --> 00:05:48,360 ton of modeling, she said. At the time, it wasn't cool to 108 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,160 be on TV every week. I was working on commercials and 109 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,040 all the kids would see me. I got bullied and I hated it. 110 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:56,880 But I was really proud and it made it me more determined to 111 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,240 get on TV. My parents said if I did I could 112 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,160 be home schooled. That's why I tried and tried and 113 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,120 tried and when I did, it was the best day of my life, which. 114 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,520 I find it so hard to believe that. 115 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,640 But maybe it's true. Like maybe the other kids just 116 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,940 resent child actors and. Also, like, don't believe it. 117 00:06:17,060 --> 00:06:20,660 I feel like in elementary school, like being on TV seemed 118 00:06:20,660 --> 00:06:22,460 like the coolest. Thing in the world. 119 00:06:22,460 --> 00:06:25,980 Like even if you were literally walking into a store and you 120 00:06:25,980 --> 00:06:29,460 were on like the security camera TV, like, yeah, I thought that 121 00:06:29,460 --> 00:06:31,420 was so. I know what you mean. 122 00:06:32,140 --> 00:06:34,820 So I find I still think it's cool to be on the security 123 00:06:34,860 --> 00:06:39,340 camera we always. On TV, on TV. 124 00:06:39,700 --> 00:06:43,060 So and like even if someone was like in a local like they would 125 00:06:43,220 --> 00:06:47,100 air our talent show on like the local TV and it was so cool. 126 00:06:47,100 --> 00:06:49,940 So I really find it hard to believe that kids would make fun 127 00:06:49,940 --> 00:06:51,940 of someone for being in a commercial. 128 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:55,260 Yeah, I mean, in my school I feel like the. 129 00:06:56,380 --> 00:06:58,450 Well, I guess this is like a. No way. 130 00:06:58,450 --> 00:07:02,170 It's not failed yet, but I was gonna say, I, the most popular 131 00:07:02,170 --> 00:07:04,250 girl in my school was like, in pageants. 132 00:07:04,250 --> 00:07:07,450 Yeah, you know, And she literally was beautiful and 133 00:07:07,970 --> 00:07:11,050 popular. So and like, the guy that was in 134 00:07:11,050 --> 00:07:13,330 the plays, everyone had crushes on him, you know? 135 00:07:13,410 --> 00:07:16,370 So, like, is that true? I know, like the school. 136 00:07:16,370 --> 00:07:17,890 Everybody's always saying that, yeah. 137 00:07:18,410 --> 00:07:20,210 Maybe it's all about perception though. 138 00:07:20,210 --> 00:07:24,730 Like people are only like aware of other people's perception of 139 00:07:24,730 --> 00:07:27,450 them. So maybe to her like if someone. 140 00:07:28,410 --> 00:07:31,090 Was not the nicest to her. She thinks like, oh, it's 141 00:07:31,090 --> 00:07:33,650 because I'm on TV. Yeah, maybe. 142 00:07:33,650 --> 00:07:35,410 I'm sure. Like even the people I'm talking 143 00:07:35,410 --> 00:07:39,610 about, maybe a couple people made fun of them or something, 144 00:07:39,810 --> 00:07:42,610 and then they, you know, can't forget it. 145 00:07:44,330 --> 00:07:47,170 Sad. Is this microphone picking up 146 00:07:47,210 --> 00:07:50,130 sound? Oh wait, should be. 147 00:07:51,500 --> 00:07:55,300 Then at 13, she was cast on Days of Our Lives, which she starred 148 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:58,260 on from 2004 to 2007. Mmhmm. 149 00:07:58,420 --> 00:08:01,340 During that time she also was 1/6 chick in. 150 00:08:02,150 --> 00:08:04,350 Teen going on 30. Oh really? 151 00:08:04,390 --> 00:08:06,590 Yeah, which I actually watched last week. 152 00:08:06,590 --> 00:08:09,670 So she's just in the background. As you know. 153 00:08:09,670 --> 00:08:12,390 She also was on Pretty Little Liars, which we talked about. 154 00:08:12,390 --> 00:08:14,710 That's really like what she's known for. 155 00:08:14,870 --> 00:08:17,350 But she also did the Spring Breakers movie. 156 00:08:17,350 --> 00:08:18,350 Oh. Yeah, I saw that. 157 00:08:18,630 --> 00:08:20,350 Oh really? I haven't seen it. 158 00:08:20,510 --> 00:08:23,870 And like a bring it on film. And she's done other stuff too. 159 00:08:24,270 --> 00:08:27,830 But she's known for Pretty Little Liars and before dating 160 00:08:27,830 --> 00:08:32,110 Cara, she has been. Linked to JJ Thorne. 161 00:08:32,110 --> 00:08:33,789 I think he's a singer. I don't know. 162 00:08:34,390 --> 00:08:36,549 Ryan Good. I don't know who that is. 163 00:08:36,789 --> 00:08:40,710 Cord Overstreet from Glee. Who did he play? 164 00:08:40,789 --> 00:08:42,830 Was his name Sam? He was blonde. 165 00:08:42,830 --> 00:08:45,710 He came in like later. Sounds. 166 00:08:45,710 --> 00:08:46,630 Familiar. Yeah. 167 00:08:48,190 --> 00:08:52,150 James Franco, supposedly. Oh, he's in Spring Breakers. 168 00:08:52,150 --> 00:08:53,590 Yeah. So that would make sense. 169 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,320 Tyler Blackburn. Oh, he was on PLO. 170 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,680 Oh, was he really OK? I feel like, so uncultured. 171 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:03,280 I don't know who any of these. People are. 172 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,160 Yeah, I forgot about that. Oh my God, they were a couple on 173 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,520 the. Show Were they really? 174 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,040 And did they actually date like I? 175 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,560 Guess yeah, I'm getting flashbacks to thinking that was 176 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:16,880 so cute. Maybe we can cover it and 177 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,600 supposedly not Wolf. Really. 178 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,680 Wow. Like he's dated everybody. 179 00:09:24,220 --> 00:09:26,780 Naked brothers. Yeah, from the Naked Brothers 180 00:09:26,780 --> 00:09:28,940 Fam. So yeah, that's Ashley. 181 00:09:28,940 --> 00:09:31,060 For ya? Isn't she friends with Kristen 182 00:09:31,060 --> 00:09:33,860 Stewart? Yes, she's good friends with our 183 00:09:33,860 --> 00:09:37,580 girl Kristen and hangs out with like Kristen's. 184 00:09:37,980 --> 00:09:40,260 You know, non famous friends as well. 185 00:09:40,260 --> 00:09:41,660 Wow. So. 186 00:09:42,140 --> 00:09:44,500 For those who maybe don't know, I don't know how you wouldn't 187 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:46,300 notice, but we used to host a Twilight Pocket. 188 00:09:47,020 --> 00:09:48,740 Yeah. So that makes me like seem 189 00:09:48,740 --> 00:09:52,780 Ashley, in this automatically that like, yeah, if Kristen. 190 00:09:53,490 --> 00:09:55,490 Is good friends with her. She must be cool. 191 00:09:56,330 --> 00:09:57,850 Oh, yeah. I didn't ask. 192 00:09:57,850 --> 00:09:59,970 Well, I guess we're not at the couple part yet, but I want to 193 00:09:59,970 --> 00:10:01,570 ask my question. Oh yeah. 194 00:10:01,570 --> 00:10:04,530 How would you describe this relationship with three words? 195 00:10:04,530 --> 00:10:05,890 My gosh, I. Should have prepared for this. 196 00:10:07,130 --> 00:10:10,210 Be raw. I would say flirty. 197 00:10:10,290 --> 00:10:21,480 Oh, flirty, fun, and amicable. OK, nice. 198 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,920 Yeah, that's what I would. Say, cool. 199 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,160 So different. Yeah, it is different. 200 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,040 Yeah. So then we got Cara, Miss Cara, 201 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Jocelyn Delevingne, born in 1992 in London, England. 202 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,920 Her. OK, that's cool. 203 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,920 I know I've already, I've already like, hinted this to 204 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:46,330 you, but if there's any. Definition for like a nepotism 205 00:10:46,330 --> 00:10:49,530 baby, it's Cara Delevingne and you. 206 00:10:50,010 --> 00:10:53,770 Any one of the connections that she has in her family is enough 207 00:10:53,850 --> 00:10:57,010 to be super famous and successful like she is. 208 00:10:57,690 --> 00:11:00,730 But it just is endless. Like if you're looking at her 209 00:11:00,730 --> 00:11:04,370 family tree, like there's always another branch where there's 210 00:11:04,370 --> 00:11:07,170 like another super famous influential person. 211 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,440 It's crazy. It's like there's honestly way 212 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,080 too much to even, but I'll like, give you the basics. 213 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,240 So her great, great grandfather was someone named Sir Edward 214 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,680 Holton, the media tycoon, and he owned what is now known as the 215 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:27,080 Daily Mail. So there's that. 216 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,920 And then her maternal grandfather, his name is Jocelyn 217 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,280 Stevens. He owned Queen Magazine, which 218 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,510 he bought at just 25 years old. Which today is known as Harper's 219 00:11:37,510 --> 00:11:38,430 Bazaar. Oh. 220 00:11:39,350 --> 00:11:41,310 Wow. And he hired A photographer 221 00:11:41,310 --> 00:11:46,950 named Anthony Armstrong Jones, who became the future husband of 222 00:11:46,950 --> 00:11:52,950 Princess Margaret. And through that he met his soon 223 00:11:52,950 --> 00:11:56,750 to be wife Kara's grandmother, Janie Sheffield. 224 00:11:56,870 --> 00:11:59,750 Who was the lady in waiting for Princess Margaret. 225 00:12:00,150 --> 00:12:03,510 What so her grandparents like, hung around with. 226 00:12:04,940 --> 00:12:08,260 Like royalty like all the time. Like they would just like go 227 00:12:08,260 --> 00:12:10,580 golfing and stuff and have parties with like Princess 228 00:12:10,580 --> 00:12:14,260 Margaret and like. She's basically like Princess 229 00:12:14,460 --> 00:12:17,500 Diana. Yeah, you know, Yeah, like that 230 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:21,660 kind of social circle. Yeah, seriously. 231 00:12:21,660 --> 00:12:25,700 Like and and just the fact that they own like all these tabloids 232 00:12:25,700 --> 00:12:28,420 and magazines like they owned kind of like, you know, the 233 00:12:28,460 --> 00:12:33,180 media and and then this is all on her mom's side. 234 00:12:33,580 --> 00:12:38,140 And so together, her grandparents, they're super rich 235 00:12:38,860 --> 00:12:40,500 and we're really like in the royalty circle. 236 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:45,900 As I mentioned, they had five kids and then they divorced 23 237 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:50,620 years later, her grandparents. And so they have five kids. 238 00:12:50,620 --> 00:12:55,580 One of her their kids is Pandora, who's Cara's mom, and 239 00:12:55,860 --> 00:13:00,500 she worked as a personal shopper at Selfridges, which she landed 240 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:02,740 because. OKI didn't actually explain the 241 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:04,820 same. OK, cut that off. 242 00:13:04,980 --> 00:13:09,500 So Kara's grandparents divorced after 23 years, and then her 243 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:16,300 grandfather went on to date a woman named Vivian Duffield for 244 00:13:16,420 --> 00:13:22,260 almost 30 years, and she was the heiress of Selfridges in 245 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:23,500 England. So. 246 00:13:24,370 --> 00:13:27,890 Kara's mom, Pandora, was worked as a personal shopper growing up 247 00:13:27,970 --> 00:13:30,370 at Selfridges through that connection. 248 00:13:31,010 --> 00:13:34,930 And her mom was like, also super famous or not famous but like 249 00:13:35,530 --> 00:13:38,930 was in the circles of like, royalty in England. 250 00:13:38,930 --> 00:13:41,650 And she was often like photographed out with Sarah 251 00:13:41,650 --> 00:13:46,050 Ferguson and just like, you know, like as the friend going 252 00:13:46,050 --> 00:13:48,050 out and about, oh. My. 253 00:13:49,730 --> 00:13:53,130 God unrelated to her family, her godfather also. 254 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:59,840 Is Nicholas Coleridge, who is it executive at Conde Nast? 255 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:06,250 So he basically owns like? Is in control of everything 256 00:14:06,570 --> 00:14:09,450 under Conde Nast like he is. They do vote. 257 00:14:09,450 --> 00:14:12,890 Yeah, so he's like Anna Winter's boss, her godfather. 258 00:14:13,650 --> 00:14:19,170 So obviously it's quite easy for Cara Delevine to make it into 259 00:14:19,170 --> 00:14:22,570 the magazine. That's so true. 260 00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:23,530 Oh. My. 261 00:14:23,930 --> 00:14:29,970 Godmother is also actress Joan Collins, who's like a Dame, I 262 00:14:29,970 --> 00:14:34,010 think. Same. 263 00:14:34,010 --> 00:14:37,530 I'm so jealous. Yeah, and you think like, okay, 264 00:14:37,530 --> 00:14:40,410 this is her mom said Her dad's side is like, must be the like, 265 00:14:40,410 --> 00:14:43,850 more like, you know, normal now her dad. 266 00:14:43,850 --> 00:14:48,610 So he's a property developer. He's the son of publishing 267 00:14:48,610 --> 00:14:51,970 socialite Angela Delevingne, whose father was the chief 268 00:14:51,970 --> 00:14:56,160 secretary of Ireland. And her mother was the head of 269 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:01,720 The Washington Times. Copy developer That's like Chuck 270 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,400 Bass. Yeah, yeah. 271 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,440 So there. She's rich in like every single 272 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,400 Ave. of her life. I will say there is struggle in 273 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,080 her family. Her mom was addicted to heroin. 274 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:13,840 Oh my. God. 275 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:20,000 But before Cara was born. No, I mean, even though people 276 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,680 are extremely wealthy, do you think that that can cause a lot 277 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,650 of? Problems. 278 00:15:24,770 --> 00:15:27,050 No, it really does. It does. 279 00:15:27,050 --> 00:15:32,290 And her mom had bipolar disorder as well, so she grew up like not 280 00:15:32,290 --> 00:15:36,410 necessarily in like the happiest environment she had said. 281 00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:38,890 Everyone has something they go through with their family. 282 00:15:38,890 --> 00:15:41,970 My life I feel was very stressful because there was 283 00:15:41,970 --> 00:15:45,410 quite a lot of chaos. Not being sure people were OK or 284 00:15:45,410 --> 00:15:48,090 not, that is. Tough. 285 00:15:49,210 --> 00:15:51,490 And she had. Well, she still has them older 286 00:15:51,490 --> 00:15:54,370 sisters, Poppy and Chloe. They're also models. 287 00:15:54,370 --> 00:15:55,530 I've. Heard of them. 288 00:15:55,770 --> 00:16:00,330 Yeah, definitely didn't have the eyebrows that Kara the launcher 289 00:16:00,330 --> 00:16:04,810 into success, but Kara grew up literally super, super red. 290 00:16:04,810 --> 00:16:09,370 She was lived in a multimillion dollar estate in Belgravia. 291 00:16:10,450 --> 00:16:14,250 She attended B Dali School, which is a boarding school in 292 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:18,210 Hampshire, England. But at 17 she dropped out. 293 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,000 So Daily Mail originally reported, like, back in, like 294 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,200 2011 that she dropped out to pursue a career in modeling 295 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,680 because soon after that she signed with Burberry. 296 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,440 But interviews years later, she attributed dropping out to 297 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,240 mental health problems. So I don't know, like if it's a 298 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,240 little bit of both, maybe, maybe, she said I dropped out 299 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,760 and I really just wanted to be able to prove that I wasn't the 300 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,200 deadbeat that I thought I was. When you have mental health 301 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,600 struggles, you can't see anything. 302 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,440 It blinds you. And she also has said that she 303 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,920 suffered with anxiety and depression, like especially at 304 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,680 that age she was struggling to understand her sexuality, I 305 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,040 think as a part of it. I think sometimes it can be many 306 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,320 things. Yeah, at the same. 307 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,760 Time she might be like this isn't really working out for me 308 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,040 and I want to do modeling. So, yeah, exactly. 309 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,119 Yeah. Well, it's like. 310 00:17:08,450 --> 00:17:10,369 It's not working out for me. I don't like school. 311 00:17:10,490 --> 00:17:14,010 I could just be a model, yeah. Why wouldn't you? 312 00:17:14,170 --> 00:17:18,250 Exactly so. But her first modeling job was 313 00:17:18,250 --> 00:17:20,770 actually at age 10 for Vogue Italy. 314 00:17:20,770 --> 00:17:26,569 So already she had a Vogue shoe. And then in 2011, there was a 315 00:17:26,569 --> 00:17:31,530 huge influx of articles about Cara and her sisters, largely in 316 00:17:31,530 --> 00:17:35,080 the Daily Mail. Which, you know, her family has 317 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,840 so much pull of the Daily Mail. So you could kind of see how her 318 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,720 success was like literally handed to her. 319 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,080 Like they would all be, all these articles were like, who 320 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,600 are the dynasty sisters? Like who are these Delevingne 321 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,920 sisters up and coming and people would literally come in like who 322 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,200 the fuck is this? Oh my God. 323 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,720 Yeah, they create. I mean, this is how Pearl works 324 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,000 for everybody, but like, they just created. 325 00:18:02,740 --> 00:18:05,380 Celebrities out of them. Yeah, seriously. 326 00:18:05,420 --> 00:18:07,460 Made them socialites. Yeah. 327 00:18:07,460 --> 00:18:12,180 My God, it is like Gossip Girl. Kind of like, yeah, just kind of 328 00:18:12,180 --> 00:18:15,740 forced her to become the ick girl with how much the tabloids 329 00:18:15,980 --> 00:18:17,780 wrote about her for like, no reason. 330 00:18:18,740 --> 00:18:24,220 I really feel like she played such a huge role and I don't 331 00:18:24,220 --> 00:18:26,500 know if it was like her decision or whatever, but like 332 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:29,130 transformed. Beauty. 333 00:18:29,250 --> 00:18:33,370 Yeah, in the early 2010. So, like, yeah, the eyebrows 334 00:18:33,370 --> 00:18:35,210 thing. Huge. 335 00:18:35,530 --> 00:18:37,810 Yeah, I mean. Skinny eyebrows was like in 336 00:18:38,490 --> 00:18:40,490 small eyebrows for the longest time. 337 00:18:40,770 --> 00:18:44,090 Then all of a sudden it's like. Getting brow pencils and. 338 00:18:44,570 --> 00:18:44,930 You know? Yeah. 339 00:18:44,930 --> 00:18:47,410 And I feel like we are still kind of in that. 340 00:18:47,730 --> 00:18:49,250 Yeah. And I'm thankful because we have 341 00:18:49,410 --> 00:18:50,490 huge eyebrows. I don't. 342 00:18:50,490 --> 00:18:52,690 Wanna go back to? That no. 343 00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:54,970 It's probably only a matter of time. 344 00:18:55,250 --> 00:18:57,690 I had a. Friend Kristen, who she's, I 345 00:18:57,690 --> 00:19:01,170 mean, she's still my friend, but back in the day when we were 346 00:19:01,170 --> 00:19:04,610 that age, she had the most beautiful thick. 347 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:09,830 Like black eyebrows, but she had blonde hair and she was so, so 348 00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:12,150 beautiful and she was so insecure about it. 349 00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:15,710 And she literally dyed her hair brown to mash her eyebrows. 350 00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:19,230 And like, she and I remember one time like we would do little 351 00:19:19,230 --> 00:19:21,460 photo shoots. And, like, get dressed up. 352 00:19:21,620 --> 00:19:23,260 Yeah. And I even made her eyebrows a 353 00:19:23,260 --> 00:19:25,820 little bit thicker so they'd be, like, even more striking. 354 00:19:25,820 --> 00:19:27,980 And she got so mad at me. Really. 355 00:19:28,340 --> 00:19:31,420 Yeah. But I hope that, like, she feels 356 00:19:31,420 --> 00:19:33,220 differently. I mean, I haven't asked her. 357 00:19:33,220 --> 00:19:36,140 Yeah, I hope so about her eyebrows, because I think 358 00:19:36,140 --> 00:19:39,820 they're gorgeous. That is a beautiful combination. 359 00:19:40,180 --> 00:19:42,340 Yeah. Like when my first and I know 360 00:19:42,340 --> 00:19:44,460 coming to mind was this guy that I was friends with in high 361 00:19:44,460 --> 00:19:46,900 school and he had like blondish hair but dark eyebrows. 362 00:19:47,020 --> 00:19:50,260 Yeah, I feel like. That was a reason why he was, 363 00:19:50,260 --> 00:19:54,260 like, attractive. Yeah, it makes your eyes pop. 364 00:19:54,700 --> 00:19:57,260 Yeah. I mean, my eyebrows are too 365 00:19:57,260 --> 00:19:59,140 bushy though. Like, if I did nothing to them, 366 00:19:59,220 --> 00:20:00,700 they're like crazy. But. 367 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:05,820 That needs to become more. I know fucking boys like the boy 368 00:20:05,940 --> 00:20:08,700 brows. I have Eugene Levy like 369 00:20:08,820 --> 00:20:12,500 eyebrows, naturally. So some people don't even you 370 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:14,140 don't even like pluck yours, right? 371 00:20:14,780 --> 00:20:17,460 I do like a little bit, but like, not really. 372 00:20:17,620 --> 00:20:20,260 I'm horrible at it. Just once in a while. 373 00:20:20,260 --> 00:20:22,980 Be like, OK, there's some stray hairs. 374 00:20:23,980 --> 00:20:27,420 I need to go, but mine are truly double the size that they are 375 00:20:27,420 --> 00:20:29,060 now. If I don't touch them, it's 376 00:20:29,220 --> 00:20:33,420 terrible. But yeah, thank you Kara. 377 00:20:33,420 --> 00:20:36,900 Like that actually really made a difference for so many people, 378 00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:39,470 so. I feel like you can still have 379 00:20:39,470 --> 00:20:40,950 small eyebrows. Like, you know what I mean? 380 00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:43,350 I don't think if you have thin eyebrows, it's like. 381 00:20:43,390 --> 00:20:46,030 Exactly what you're doing. But but there's nothing worse 382 00:20:46,030 --> 00:20:49,710 than having to, like, remove. Yeah, like half your eyebrows. 383 00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:52,350 It's painful. I actually used to like pre 384 00:20:52,350 --> 00:20:55,310 Cara. I did pluck my eyebrows a lot 385 00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:57,430 and my eyebrow looks so small and. 386 00:20:58,270 --> 00:21:00,630 Things. They were like 1 inch like, I 387 00:21:00,670 --> 00:21:04,330 don't know. I mean, some people would 388 00:21:04,410 --> 00:21:06,730 literally shave off their eyebrows and like, draw it on. 389 00:21:06,730 --> 00:21:09,810 Yeah, I. Know, you know. 390 00:21:11,610 --> 00:21:13,810 So that like really made a difference. 391 00:21:13,810 --> 00:21:16,210 We gotta get give credit or credits due. 392 00:21:18,730 --> 00:21:22,090 But yeah, she like not. She's not only a model, she's 393 00:21:22,130 --> 00:21:25,850 also started acting around that time. 394 00:21:25,850 --> 00:21:31,250 She was in Anna Karenina, Paper Towns, Kids in Love, etcetera. 395 00:21:31,250 --> 00:21:34,770 So she's. Girls, many talents. 396 00:21:34,770 --> 00:21:37,170 She also. She had some scandals, though. 397 00:21:37,290 --> 00:21:41,370 In 2013 she was photographed dropping cocaine outside of her. 398 00:21:41,370 --> 00:21:43,530 Apt. I remember that, yeah. 399 00:21:43,530 --> 00:21:46,930 And people online said that she's a pretty regular cocaine 400 00:21:47,010 --> 00:21:49,530 user. How did her family, like, not 401 00:21:49,530 --> 00:21:51,930 stop that? I don't know They didn't need to 402 00:21:51,930 --> 00:21:53,930 publish that unless they wanted it. 403 00:21:55,850 --> 00:21:59,290 Maybe they, you know, I bet they stopped a lot of things. 404 00:21:59,290 --> 00:22:02,890 Maybe that one just. Yeah, that's true, Yeah. 405 00:22:03,370 --> 00:22:04,890 Maybe it was already out there or something. 406 00:22:05,010 --> 00:22:09,210 Yeah, I should look up like who? Who originally reported that. 407 00:22:09,650 --> 00:22:11,330 That'd be crazy if it was like the Daily Mail, because. 408 00:22:12,770 --> 00:22:15,050 Then that is like Gossip Girl. It's like, whoa, wait, why is 409 00:22:15,890 --> 00:22:18,370 spoiler? Yeah, skip ahead the next couple 410 00:22:18,370 --> 00:22:19,570 of seconds if you haven't watched it. 411 00:22:19,570 --> 00:22:24,370 But why is Dan posting about himself or his sister or his 412 00:22:24,450 --> 00:22:27,290 girlfriend? Yeah, that's. 413 00:22:27,290 --> 00:22:32,210 So true. Hey, all press is good press, 414 00:22:32,210 --> 00:22:34,530 you know? So, like, what's going to 415 00:22:34,530 --> 00:22:36,250 happen? Like, she's not going to get 416 00:22:36,250 --> 00:22:37,410 arrested. True. 417 00:22:37,930 --> 00:22:39,570 Actually, maybe she has been arrested. 418 00:22:40,370 --> 00:22:43,850 Maybe she wanted the good girl. Well, I don't know if she ever 419 00:22:43,850 --> 00:22:46,290 had a good girl image, but like, yeah, to have more of a party 420 00:22:46,290 --> 00:22:50,130 girl vibe. Yeah, and I think she does, like 421 00:22:50,130 --> 00:22:54,480 I would say, Cara seems. Pretty edgy before. 422 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Before dating Kara. I mean Ashley, she dated Saint 423 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,760 Vincent, Jack O'Connell, Michelle Rodriguez. 424 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,120 Actually think she was dating Michelle Rodriguez recently. 425 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:11,080 Harry Styles very briefly rumored Jake Bug and Miley 426 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,800 Cyrus. And she officially came out as 427 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:19,240 pansexual in 2017. Yeah, so. 428 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,480 Actually didn't know she. I did Miley. 429 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,000 I think just briefly, like I think it probably was when Miley 430 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,680 and Liam were broken up after bangers. 431 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,360 That's quite a duo. I know. 432 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:35,680 Yeah. Oh, my God. 433 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,440 I know. I think that's too much. 434 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,480 You need to have a balance of personalities. 435 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,280 Yeah. OK. 436 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,200 And now I'm going to reveal some scandalous stuff. 437 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:52,080 So just some context. Who knows if this is true, but 438 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,800 there have been blind items online about Cara. 439 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,080 Like she's supposedly had a threesome with Elon Musk and 440 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:04,600 Amber Heard. And while Amber Heard was, this 441 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,880 is all allegedly. But while Amber Heard was like 442 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,160 married to Johnny Depp, so that like Amber Heard cheated on 443 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,320 Johnny Depp with Elon Musk and Cara Delevingne, supposedly 444 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,000 there's rumors of it online. I don't know if it's true. 445 00:24:18,270 --> 00:24:21,590 But it's not crazy do. You think it could be true? 446 00:24:22,630 --> 00:24:24,790 I think it's true. I know that the podcast Fluently 447 00:24:24,790 --> 00:24:28,470 Forward thinks it's true. The girl, Shannon on that. 448 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:32,830 It's not outside the realm of possibility seems. 449 00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:35,870 Wait, has there been any? I don't know if you know this, 450 00:24:35,870 --> 00:24:42,550 like interaction between her and Elon or anything like online or 451 00:24:42,550 --> 00:24:43,390 Let. Me see you. 452 00:24:44,910 --> 00:24:47,670 Don't have to know this. Should I look it up? 453 00:24:48,730 --> 00:24:51,650 I mean, he does seem to like, hook up with people a lot. 454 00:24:52,810 --> 00:24:58,570 So Oh yeah, he's a little slut. It's been reported in Newsweek 455 00:24:58,570 --> 00:25:00,650 even that they had a three-way of care. 456 00:25:01,050 --> 00:25:04,330 So like, OK, it's like a very Google. 457 00:25:04,410 --> 00:25:07,930 No, it's not like on Reddit. Like, we really can. 458 00:25:07,930 --> 00:25:11,970 A lot of places have. Even Bollywood Life has reported 459 00:25:11,970 --> 00:25:14,410 on this. This is random, but I feel like 460 00:25:14,450 --> 00:25:18,220 a lot of. Indian publications seem to know 461 00:25:19,020 --> 00:25:20,820 a lot of gossip. I don't know how. 462 00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:23,300 Have you noticed that? No, I don't know. 463 00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:27,220 That is interesting. Because I would. 464 00:25:27,380 --> 00:25:30,380 I don't know how they know this, but I would have the for the 465 00:25:30,380 --> 00:25:34,740 Twilight podcast emails sent to me about Robin, Kristen and 466 00:25:34,740 --> 00:25:36,220 stuff. And a lot of them were like 467 00:25:36,260 --> 00:25:39,660 Bollywood Life and India Times or something. 468 00:25:40,580 --> 00:25:43,820 There's supposedly pictures of them, I think in an elevator 469 00:25:43,820 --> 00:25:45,630 together here. Hmm. 470 00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:48,590 Oh my gosh, we're so gossip. Ohh, it's posted by the Daily 471 00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:49,230 Mail. Hmm. 472 00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:55,150 Oh my. Guys, I'm looking at a picture. 473 00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:58,950 I can tell that's Amber Heard or Cara Delevingne. 474 00:25:59,070 --> 00:26:04,030 It's a picture of a blonde woman in, like a robe. 475 00:26:04,590 --> 00:26:07,790 And Elon Musk, is it? Does look like. 476 00:26:08,030 --> 00:26:12,500 Him, Yeah. Apparently this is in Johnny 477 00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:14,340 Depp's. OK, this is Amber Heard. 478 00:26:14,860 --> 00:26:17,220 I don't know where Cara comes into play here. 479 00:26:17,820 --> 00:26:19,260 I would not sleep with Elon Musk. 480 00:26:22,660 --> 00:26:27,900 Yeah, I don't think. I would I just like it makes me 481 00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:30,580 like question like. Maybe he's, like, really 482 00:26:30,620 --> 00:26:33,100 charming I. Don't know, yeah, maybe would 483 00:26:33,620 --> 00:26:35,540 entice. Her. 484 00:26:36,820 --> 00:26:38,940 Anyway. Anyway, so that's just like some 485 00:26:38,940 --> 00:26:40,940 contacts. It doesn't have anything to do 486 00:26:40,940 --> 00:26:47,460 with her and Ashley, but I think it's good to keep it in mind for 487 00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:48,060 later on. Ohh. 488 00:26:48,580 --> 00:26:50,660 Just to know. Interesting, but. 489 00:26:51,010 --> 00:26:53,290 With this podcast, we are going to try to have a little bit of 490 00:26:53,290 --> 00:26:56,410 tunnel vision, focusing on the couple itself. 491 00:26:56,850 --> 00:26:59,570 So like, we're not going to really get into like them and 492 00:26:59,570 --> 00:27:01,930 their other lovers. That's a different episode, 493 00:27:01,930 --> 00:27:07,330 Different episode. But yeah, so Cara and Ashley, 494 00:27:07,330 --> 00:27:13,530 how did they come to be? They they met 2018 on the set of 495 00:27:13,530 --> 00:27:15,730 a film that they did together called Her Smell. 496 00:27:15,730 --> 00:27:17,730 Yeah. I've heard of that. 497 00:27:17,730 --> 00:27:19,690 Movie Think it's about a band or something? 498 00:27:19,690 --> 00:27:24,450 Yeah. Has Elizabeth Moss when Cairo 499 00:27:24,610 --> 00:27:27,050 met Ashley? Yep, that's where they met. 500 00:27:27,050 --> 00:27:29,650 So they're both in this film and then they're photographed 501 00:27:29,650 --> 00:27:34,090 together just hanging out. In May 2018 are photographed 502 00:27:34,170 --> 00:27:37,330 holding hands at Lucky Strike and Soho. 503 00:27:38,130 --> 00:27:40,250 But cool, the press doesn't like. 504 00:27:41,170 --> 00:27:43,850 Say that they're together. They think like maybe they're 505 00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:48,330 just gal pals, you know? Pictures also came out of the 506 00:27:48,330 --> 00:27:51,890 two of them at a parking meter where Kara has her arms wrapped 507 00:27:51,890 --> 00:27:56,330 around Ashley. Also, that month, a fan tweeted 508 00:27:56,330 --> 00:27:59,490 that they were at SNL and saw the two of them making out 509 00:27:59,490 --> 00:28:02,650 together, so it seems kind of official. 510 00:28:03,650 --> 00:28:08,330 Also, DJ Cole Collette posted an Instagram picture of the two of 511 00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:12,480 them on. Instagram a few days later 512 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:21,640 hanging out. Yeah, sorry, I just really but. 513 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,400 I guess, I guess at this point like still people might feel 514 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,440 like. Yeah, there are a few articles 515 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,000 now that are like are they dating but they're really not 516 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,320 sure. And then also Ashley posted a 517 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,040 selfie of them together that is like blurry and it just says 518 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,080 after fifty tries we got a blurry 1. 519 00:28:39,970 --> 00:28:44,130 Then of June, they posed together in somebody's Instagram 520 00:28:44,130 --> 00:28:44,730 story. I don't know. 521 00:28:44,730 --> 00:28:46,530 Wait. What year is this? 522 00:28:47,210 --> 00:28:51,930 2018 So kind of a while ago, I just graduated college. 523 00:28:52,050 --> 00:28:55,370 Cara Doesn't Instagram Live to say that she's taking over Pop 524 00:28:55,370 --> 00:28:59,170 Sugar's Instagram? No, actually, I'm sorry, Ashley 525 00:28:59,690 --> 00:29:02,430 doesn't Instagram Live. To say that she's taking over 526 00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:05,950 Pop Sugar's Instagram for a paid promotion for some gummy 527 00:29:05,950 --> 00:29:10,110 products actually does a lot of like, paid promotion stuff and 528 00:29:12,150 --> 00:29:17,150 Oh yeah, so interesting. And Cara writes, you know how 529 00:29:17,150 --> 00:29:19,750 when someone doesn't Instagram live, other people can like, 530 00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:25,830 write in the yeah, the comments. So Cara writes a lot of things 531 00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:28,030 in the comments. Like she says I want you as my 532 00:29:28,030 --> 00:29:30,670 gummy. Oh wow. 533 00:29:30,670 --> 00:29:33,750 And Ashley nervously laughs and says you're the worst. 534 00:29:34,550 --> 00:29:37,830 And then during the live, Kara writes in the chat, Do you miss 535 00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:40,350 me? And Ashley giggles and says yes. 536 00:29:40,350 --> 00:29:42,990 Oh my God. And then someone asked Ashley 537 00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:45,950 what her favorite thing to do in her free time is, and Kara 538 00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:51,110 writes me, I know it's obviously been together. 539 00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:54,470 Then Kara also writes, What else do you like to do in your free 540 00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:57,030 time? I don't think Ashley responded 541 00:29:57,070 --> 00:29:59,970 to that though. Yeah, Cara does seem very 542 00:29:59,970 --> 00:30:03,170 forward. Yeah, like Ashley was a little 543 00:30:03,170 --> 00:30:04,090 nervous or. Something. 544 00:30:04,090 --> 00:30:07,770 Yeah, definitely. And they're also photographed 545 00:30:07,770 --> 00:30:11,290 leaving a Britney Spears concert in New York together. 546 00:30:11,290 --> 00:30:13,890 Okay. So in August 2018, Ashley posts 547 00:30:13,890 --> 00:30:18,250 an Instagram selfie wearing a necklace that says the letters C 548 00:30:19,290 --> 00:30:23,960 and then the letter A on it. So Kara and Ashley in one thing. 549 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,880 Yeah, And I didn't. In California they're Oh yeah, 550 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,640 double s up. But I didn't realize that their, 551 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,840 like, couple name is a BCD. Wait. 552 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,440 How? Ashley Benson? 553 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,640 Oh yeah. Ashley Benson, Cara Delevingne, 554 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,520 ABCD It's cool, yeah. Also in August, Cara has a 555 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,240 little birthday party for herself. 556 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,240 Ashley goes to that, and then they're photographed kissing. 557 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,080 At the airport in London. Together. 558 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,960 So they're together. Yeah, they've been really. 559 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,640 They've been together since May, May or April. 560 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,880 September. Cara posted a photo of her 561 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,160 wearing a gold dress. This is interesting. 562 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,160 And Ashley commented mine on the picture of Cara. 563 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,480 And then another comment that says I can see your sushi emoji. 564 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,680 But then hours later, Ashley posts an Instagram story saying 565 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,600 that she was hacked and those comments are deleted. 566 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,440 She's like, I just got off the plane. 567 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,920 I was hacked. So it wasn't her who posted 568 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,760 that. It's calm. 569 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,400 Is that? Really all a hacker would do. 570 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360 I know that's what I don't got, I. 571 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,400 Might be just like so lame and ignorant but. 572 00:31:46,980 --> 00:31:49,220 What exactly is meant by the sushi? 573 00:31:50,260 --> 00:31:52,020 Well, I assume that. Sushi. 574 00:31:52,220 --> 00:31:54,260 I don't. I wouldn't use sushi for this. 575 00:31:54,260 --> 00:31:57,780 But I assume that's like your pussy, right? 576 00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:02,460 That's what I was thinking. To do I feel like honestly. 577 00:32:02,460 --> 00:32:05,980 What else could I guess? Yeah, I mean, I think, right, 578 00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:09,500 Yeah. But I wouldn't necessarily use 579 00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:12,980 sushi as an emoji for I feel like Taco is what people do, 580 00:32:12,980 --> 00:32:13,460 right? Yeah. 581 00:32:15,710 --> 00:32:18,670 The eggplants, obviously. Yeah, you know. 582 00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:22,110 But that's interesting. Like, was she hacked? 583 00:32:23,870 --> 00:32:25,270 I don't know if she. Was hacked. 584 00:32:25,270 --> 00:32:28,310 Wouldn't it be more like go to my page? 585 00:32:28,550 --> 00:32:29,630 Yeah. Exactly. 586 00:32:29,630 --> 00:32:34,670 Why would they just do that? They'd be like Bitcoin, blah 587 00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:38,990 blah blah what? Else did they say? 588 00:32:39,510 --> 00:32:42,920 I don't know. Yeah, it doesn't really make 589 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,360 sense. So then in October they go to a 590 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,400 magic mic show. And also Speaking of magic, 591 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,200 Ashley posted a picture of a neon sign that said you are 592 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,480 magic and Cara commented yes you are on it. 593 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,320 So very flirty displays of affection, which is sweet. 594 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,280 Like I feel like people miss that in a way that. 595 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,720 Is sweet, I know Cara does seem very. 596 00:33:09,630 --> 00:33:11,310 Yeah, yeah. Where is Ashley's? 597 00:33:11,310 --> 00:33:15,230 More private, Like a source who knows if it's true told U.S. 598 00:33:15,230 --> 00:33:18,510 magazine that Ashley is very happy but prefers to keep things 599 00:33:18,510 --> 00:33:21,950 on the down low. And she did go on record saying, 600 00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:24,430 like, I just don't like to like talk about my relationships. 601 00:33:25,550 --> 00:33:27,950 Then they're just, you know, photograph for the rest of the 602 00:33:27,950 --> 00:33:32,830 year, like out and about. They spend Christmas together in 603 00:33:32,830 --> 00:33:35,620 London. And Ashley's birthday is in 604 00:33:35,620 --> 00:33:39,660 December, so Kara rents it out seemingly the entire National 605 00:33:39,660 --> 00:33:43,540 History Museum in London. Oh my God, and posted a picture 606 00:33:43,540 --> 00:33:47,620 of a double bed in the museum surrounding Christmas trees and 607 00:33:47,620 --> 00:33:49,260 candles. Oh my God. 608 00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:50,980 Two days after Ashley's birthday. 609 00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:53,740 So people think that was like a birthday present for her. 610 00:33:53,980 --> 00:33:56,660 That is so extra. I know, I know. 611 00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:57,500 And I wonder. If. 612 00:33:57,860 --> 00:34:01,420 Did they sleep in the bed? Did they do stuff in the bed? 613 00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:05,300 Did they spend the night in the museum? 614 00:34:05,420 --> 00:34:07,700 How was that there? I don't know. 615 00:34:08,020 --> 00:34:13,020 That must be so expensive. She really was spoiling her 616 00:34:13,179 --> 00:34:16,020 girl. Oh my God, so. 617 00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:24,420 I can't whistle hobo hobo. So the relationship really is 618 00:34:24,420 --> 00:34:29,060 like, they're in the honeymoon stage, OK, now it's 2019, they 619 00:34:29,060 --> 00:34:31,699 go to the mall. Maldives with friends and 620 00:34:31,699 --> 00:34:35,420 Someone posts a picture of Ashley grabbing Kara's by 621 00:34:36,860 --> 00:34:39,540 February. Paparazzi snaps a photo of them 622 00:34:39,540 --> 00:34:43,659 kissing in West Hollywood. March, they go to or. 623 00:34:43,659 --> 00:34:48,860 Kara is on RuPaul's podcast and she talks a lot about sex and 624 00:34:48,860 --> 00:34:52,659 how much she loves sex and would rather stay inside and have sex 625 00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:55,460 and go to a club. And she says that she's a 626 00:34:55,460 --> 00:34:58,460 dominant top and sometimes struggles to receive. 627 00:34:59,910 --> 00:35:02,950 Interesting. But she said she likes to 628 00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:08,310 receive but just doesn't know. Like isn't always comfortable 629 00:35:08,350 --> 00:35:09,590 receiving. Interesting. 630 00:35:09,630 --> 00:35:12,670 I know she like, literally. It's just so funny because 631 00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:15,550 Ashley's like, I'm private. I'm a private person. 632 00:35:15,550 --> 00:35:19,350 And Ashley, Carol opposite, Yeah, completely. 633 00:35:19,710 --> 00:35:22,630 She didn't name Ashley at all in this podcast, but she really 634 00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:25,670 didn't hold back at all talking about her private life. 635 00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:28,730 My God. Yeah, that's interesting. 636 00:35:28,810 --> 00:35:34,010 Also the stylist Jamie Miserari don't know how to say it posted 637 00:35:34,010 --> 00:35:37,410 a picture of Kara and Ashley cuddling after a Chanel fashion 638 00:35:37,410 --> 00:35:40,370 show and it says post show cuddle. 639 00:35:40,450 --> 00:35:44,090 I have a picture actually. It's like in a car. 640 00:35:44,330 --> 00:35:46,410 Cute. So yeah, they're together. 641 00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:48,410 I. Love Kara's hair there. 642 00:35:48,970 --> 00:35:53,410 What do you think of the partner that you know doesn't want to 643 00:35:53,410 --> 00:35:56,050 talk about it that much? Do you think like? 644 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,920 I don't know. I think sorry they're related 645 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,040 back to this, but it's reminding. 646 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,080 Me of Rob and Chris, Yeah, that's. 647 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,200 What I was. Thinking. 648 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,880 Of sorry guys, but, like, I always felt a little sad that 649 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,560 Rob was so private. It was like, Oh my God, does he 650 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,680 really care? Yeah. 651 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,320 But I don't know. For some reason, now that I'm 652 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,480 hearing about this relationship, I'm like, I don't think that 653 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,720 means anything to be private, you know? 654 00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:22,580 Yeah, well, it seems like she's private with other relationships 655 00:36:22,620 --> 00:36:25,940 as well. She I was listening to her on 656 00:36:25,940 --> 00:36:30,020 Paris Hilton's podcast and she was like, I'm the one person who 657 00:36:30,020 --> 00:36:32,860 doesn't call the paparazzi, which is so interesting. 658 00:36:33,180 --> 00:36:36,100 It's like admitting that other people do look at paparazzi 659 00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:39,220 Photos look like crap, Like crap. 660 00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:44,380 So she just might be just a naturally private person. 661 00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:46,290 But. I don't know. 662 00:36:46,290 --> 00:36:50,570 I think it could create issues if like one person is not like 663 00:36:50,810 --> 00:36:52,690 care is definitely more open it's. 664 00:36:52,730 --> 00:36:55,410 Even a thing for just us regular people. 665 00:36:55,410 --> 00:36:59,130 Like sometimes there's one person in the relationship who 666 00:36:59,130 --> 00:37:02,050 loves to post on social media and stuff and that's kind of 667 00:37:02,050 --> 00:37:06,490 like a modern phenomenon, but and then the other one doesn't 668 00:37:06,730 --> 00:37:07,570 and. Then maybe. 669 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,040 Other ones like do you even love me? 670 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,840 You never post about me or something? 671 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,960 Yeah, you know, it's interesting. 672 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,480 I do sometimes think it is a red flag if someone doesn't post 673 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,640 their significant other. I know. 674 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,000 I've always kind of felt that too. 675 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,960 Because it's like, what are you hiding? 676 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,640 Like why don't you want people to know? 677 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,640 Especially for like us normal people like, I don't know. 678 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:30,600 Yeah, it's. Like, really? 679 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,040 Like an invasion of privacy if. Couple 100 people see. 680 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,720 Yeah, exactly. I mean, I totally understand it 681 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,920 like not wanting to, but like if you never post, yeah that's kind 682 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,840 of odd because then it Plex if it makes if it looks like you're 683 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,440 single online. And it it is just kind of sad if 684 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,520 your boyfriend or girlfriend is posting tons of pictures and 685 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,480 you've never posted anything. Yeah, I don't know. 686 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,000 Yeah, like we can infer things based off of that. 687 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,280 Yeah, I wouldn't want to date someone who. 688 00:38:02,820 --> 00:38:08,140 Like never ever acknowledges me publicly because I would think 689 00:38:08,140 --> 00:38:11,740 that they're ashamed of me or something and I wouldn't want 690 00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:13,820 other people to think like, why isn't? 691 00:38:14,060 --> 00:38:18,540 Why aren't they posting her? Yeah, it's interesting. 692 00:38:18,580 --> 00:38:21,940 Yeah, but actually doesn't stay, like, incredibly private like 693 00:38:21,940 --> 00:38:23,730 she. She softens. 694 00:38:23,930 --> 00:38:26,250 I do think it's a little different for celebrities. 695 00:38:26,290 --> 00:38:29,330 Yeah, completely. Actually in April that you're 696 00:38:29,490 --> 00:38:33,610 actually does post on Instagram picture where she's lying on on 697 00:38:33,610 --> 00:38:39,210 Kara's chest and this is like to promote their movie, her smell 698 00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:43,690 and it says Roxy plus Cassie. I don't know if they're dating 699 00:38:43,690 --> 00:38:47,850 in the film, haven't seen it, but that's sweet. 700 00:38:48,010 --> 00:38:52,010 So May of that year, oh this is tough, someone commented. 701 00:38:52,490 --> 00:38:55,490 Very bigoted stuff on Ashley's Instagram telling her that she 702 00:38:55,490 --> 00:38:58,690 needs to date a religious man, he wrote. 703 00:38:58,690 --> 00:39:00,690 I'm serious. You need to stay away from the 704 00:39:00,690 --> 00:39:04,130 devil and never go back. I'm sure many strong, handsome 705 00:39:04,130 --> 00:39:07,290 religious men would take you up in a heartbeat. 706 00:39:07,290 --> 00:39:09,050 You are not like this. You are not gay. 707 00:39:09,050 --> 00:39:11,410 You love men and you need one. Who was? 708 00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:13,930 That I don't know. I think so. 709 00:39:14,010 --> 00:39:16,230 And then? Ashley wrote you need to mind 710 00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:19,550 your own business, Stop making things up and then Kara wrote 711 00:39:19,550 --> 00:39:22,590 you were fucking disgusting. If you have a problem with true 712 00:39:22,590 --> 00:39:25,110 love then come and say this shit to my face instead of 713 00:39:25,470 --> 00:39:27,350 pathetically hating through Instagram. 714 00:39:27,350 --> 00:39:30,630 I genuinely feel sorry for you. You clearly are not happy with 715 00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:33,110 your lives and you have far too much time on your hands. 716 00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:36,190 Maybe get a job that doesn't involve being homophobic and 717 00:39:36,190 --> 00:39:43,590 hating others for being happy. So sweet that Kara wrote that 718 00:39:43,630 --> 00:39:45,010 but. That sucks. 719 00:39:45,010 --> 00:39:47,490 She was called the devil. I know, I know. 720 00:39:47,490 --> 00:39:50,890 I think Ashley, for whatever reason, did get, like, more hate 721 00:39:50,890 --> 00:39:54,570 comments about like, dating Cara. 722 00:39:56,690 --> 00:40:00,730 Should we turn the light on? It is getting like dark and all 723 00:40:00,730 --> 00:40:04,410 of a sudden we're in the dark. Beautiful. 724 00:40:04,490 --> 00:40:10,370 Mel has these string lights, vines, so pretty. 725 00:40:10,570 --> 00:40:14,470 May this is such a big. May 2019. 726 00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:17,550 Such a big month for them because they were photographed 727 00:40:17,550 --> 00:40:20,190 carrying a sex bench into Kara's house. 728 00:40:20,270 --> 00:40:21,670 What? You haven't seen that? 729 00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:23,270 No. OK, wait. 730 00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:25,230 I have to pull it up. Wait, I. 731 00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:30,270 Don't even know what a sex bench is. 732 00:40:31,070 --> 00:40:34,110 It's like, see the pictures. Oh my God. 733 00:40:34,590 --> 00:40:35,750 So someone like it's. Really. 734 00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:37,590 A label on the outside of the picture? 735 00:40:38,370 --> 00:40:41,930 Yeah, and someone like, lies in it with bondage. 736 00:40:41,930 --> 00:40:43,810 I don't know. I kind of like, don't know like 737 00:40:43,810 --> 00:40:46,970 what they do with it, but they're. 738 00:40:47,130 --> 00:40:52,930 Like, really necessary. You could just do that on a bed, 739 00:40:52,930 --> 00:40:54,530 but whatever. I honestly think it could be 740 00:40:54,530 --> 00:40:57,770 more trouble than it's worth. Like you really would have to 741 00:40:57,770 --> 00:41:01,290 like, I don't know, work your core or something and. 742 00:41:02,170 --> 00:41:04,290 I feel like rich people get into the mean. 743 00:41:05,260 --> 00:41:08,100 Sorry, maybe all people do, but get into like, the sex room 744 00:41:08,140 --> 00:41:10,020 stuff. Well this costed like over 745 00:41:10,020 --> 00:41:13,860 $400.00, so I feel like most regular people probably wouldn't 746 00:41:14,020 --> 00:41:17,380 spend that kind of money they. Have like their own room for 747 00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:20,420 these. Things, yeah, like sex dungeons. 748 00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:23,660 But I love how they're smiling in it. 749 00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:25,740 It's funny. How? 750 00:41:25,740 --> 00:41:29,100 OK, how did the paparazzi just catch that? 751 00:41:29,140 --> 00:41:33,380 Yeah, kind of weird. Oh, Daily Mail post it. 752 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,280 I can imagine Ashley as a private person, probably didn't 753 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,720 love this, but but apparently Cara had to move after this 754 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,920 because people like knew where she lived. 755 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,400 Yeah, so I don't really know how that works. 756 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,680 Daily Mail reported it interesting. 757 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,960 Yeah, I mean maybe like if other places like already reported it, 758 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:02,280 I mean, maybe she doesn't have as much poll there. 759 00:42:03,380 --> 00:42:07,300 Yeah, after all, like, maybe they're like, we did everything 760 00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:08,140 we could for you. I don't know. 761 00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:12,380 She's fine with. It, Yeah, honestly. 762 00:42:12,860 --> 00:42:15,380 Well, she laughed about it. Years later she gave an 763 00:42:15,380 --> 00:42:17,660 interview, like, and they asked her about it and she said this 764 00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:20,380 picture is hysterical and the bench was very heavy. 765 00:42:20,380 --> 00:42:24,060 Oh my God. In June, Carib hosts a video 766 00:42:24,060 --> 00:42:28,220 from their movie together and they're kissing and the caption 767 00:42:28,340 --> 00:42:31,880 is just like #pride. Kara's also asked why she went 768 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,360 public with their relationship and she said, I don't know 769 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,520 because it's Pride. It's been 50 years since 770 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,960 Stonewall happened and I don't know, it's just about our one 771 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,520 year anniversary. So why not? 772 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,200 Which I think is kind of weird because like they're not really 773 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,160 going public June 2019, like everyone has no other day 774 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,240 though, like like they literally posted, you know? 775 00:42:54,670 --> 00:42:57,510 The picture of the bed for the birthday, like they already had 776 00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:59,710 a soft launch. Yeah, that doesn't seem kind of 777 00:42:59,710 --> 00:43:01,950 homophobic to ask that. I know, like. 778 00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:05,230 Would you ask a straight couple? No, definitely not. 779 00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:11,790 And you decide to go public. They also went to Zoe Kravitz 780 00:43:11,790 --> 00:43:14,270 wedding to someone named Carl Kluzman. 781 00:43:14,270 --> 00:43:16,760 I was like, huh? I didn't know if she got married 782 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,320 in 2019. That must have been a really 783 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,200 short marriage. So. 784 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,560 Confused. Yeah, because I feel like she's 785 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,600 been dating Channing Tatum for a while now. 786 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,600 I know it's 2022. Yeah, it was. 787 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,960 Only a couple years ago. Not that long ago. 788 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,520 So I got, like, more into that Damn September. 789 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,440 They attend the US Open together. 790 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,600 They photograph kissing. Nice. 791 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,680 See. Yeah, not much to say, like. 792 00:43:46,210 --> 00:43:49,850 Yeah, Karen Kara's got her arm around her. 793 00:43:50,650 --> 00:43:53,930 October, Kara answers a question about Ashley to Access 794 00:43:53,930 --> 00:43:56,330 Hollywood. I'll play the tape. 795 00:43:58,170 --> 00:44:02,250 She's playing the tape and. It's great to see Ashley here as 796 00:44:02,250 --> 00:44:03,970 well. How supportive is she and how do 797 00:44:03,970 --> 00:44:05,610 you inspire each other to make a difference? 798 00:44:05,810 --> 00:44:08,610 She's incredibly supportive. We inspire each other by lifting 799 00:44:08,610 --> 00:44:10,730 each other, by holding each other, you know? 800 00:44:11,230 --> 00:44:14,110 Not all of us, not both of us, can always be strong, so it's 801 00:44:14,510 --> 00:44:18,030 being strong for each other what we need to be cute also, Kara 802 00:44:18,030 --> 00:44:20,950 told Elle magazine. I don't want to be so secretive 803 00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:23,870 that people think I'm ashamed of anything, but I've never been in 804 00:44:23,870 --> 00:44:26,630 a relationship where things are so public or where I posted a 805 00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:28,990 picture of someone else. This seems different. 806 00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:32,110 We had gotten to the point where we had kept it a secret, or at 807 00:44:32,110 --> 00:44:34,310 least not wanted attention. And now I feel like I'm not 808 00:44:34,310 --> 00:44:37,430 going. I'm going to not be proud, and 809 00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:40,230 now I feel like I'm not going to not be proud. 810 00:44:41,890 --> 00:44:43,730 Don't think it is. Yeah, that's right. 811 00:44:43,770 --> 00:44:46,850 Now I feel like I'm not going to not be proud. 812 00:44:47,650 --> 00:44:49,050 Now I feel like I'm going to be proud. 813 00:44:49,290 --> 00:44:56,650 Yeah, and that was confusing. OK, so this is really like, I 814 00:44:56,650 --> 00:45:00,050 feel like Kara's telling us here that this really is her first 815 00:45:00,050 --> 00:45:03,170 super serious relationship then. Yeah, sounds like. 816 00:45:03,210 --> 00:45:08,170 It her first like Instagram official one, so they're really 817 00:45:08,170 --> 00:45:08,850 in love. Wow. 818 00:45:10,110 --> 00:45:13,710 In December, Carib hosts an Instagram for Ashley that says 819 00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:17,750 Happy Birthday at Ashley Benson. There's so much I could say, but 820 00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:21,070 something I love and cherish, cherish most about us is that I 821 00:45:21,070 --> 00:45:23,870 don't need to. Because you know, and that's all 822 00:45:23,870 --> 00:45:26,230 that matters. It's you and me, which is my 823 00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:30,030 favorite, my safe place. You let me be silly, You let me 824 00:45:30,030 --> 00:45:32,870 be wild. You keep me free, secure and 825 00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:34,930 curious. I feel like I've known you my 826 00:45:34,930 --> 00:45:38,410 entire life and I'm so proud of watching you grow into the woman 827 00:45:38,650 --> 00:45:41,330 that you always dreamt of being. I love you beyond words. 828 00:45:41,330 --> 00:45:44,930 My sprinkles. Chongchi Angel face, grumpy ass 829 00:45:44,930 --> 00:45:47,330 sweet cheeks, never boring butt munch. 830 00:45:47,450 --> 00:45:49,370 Benson. Yeah. 831 00:45:49,650 --> 00:45:50,730 That's really. Cute. 832 00:45:50,730 --> 00:45:53,610 I know she is really cute. I feel like it's always Ashley's 833 00:45:53,610 --> 00:45:57,090 birthday as well. Then on Ashley's. 834 00:45:57,290 --> 00:46:00,530 Yeah, like the whole timeline is like Big Ashley birthday 835 00:46:00,610 --> 00:46:03,090 moments. And there's a photo dump and one 836 00:46:03,090 --> 00:46:04,970 of them, it's a picture. Some of them actually kissing in 837 00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:08,850 a bathtub together so that all look good on our Instagram. 838 00:46:10,530 --> 00:46:15,450 Meanwhile, Ashley posts I was surprised on my 30th birthday. 839 00:46:15,450 --> 00:46:18,210 Morocco has always been a place I've wanted to visit. 840 00:46:18,210 --> 00:46:22,210 I faced so many fears and took on new adventures with my best 841 00:46:22,210 --> 00:46:24,450 friend by my side. I couldn't have asked for 842 00:46:24,450 --> 00:46:26,890 anything better. I love you at Cara Delevingne. 843 00:46:26,890 --> 00:46:29,170 Thank you for making my birthday the best yet. 844 00:46:29,850 --> 00:46:31,490 So again, she's really spoiling it. 845 00:46:31,970 --> 00:46:34,480 Ashley. And yeah, she posted a lot of 846 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,120 pictures of them in Morocco together. 847 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,520 Yeah, they're like in a hot air balloon. 848 00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:44,200 That's crazy. Super romantic. 849 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:45,640 They went offroading. Oh. 850 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,440 My gosh. I mean, Ashley's got that money 851 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,400 to spend on her. I mean Kara. 852 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,920 Sorry, it must be interesting. I mean, it's not like Ashley 853 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,400 isn't rich, but it must be odd. I feel like to be someone even 854 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,260 in. Ashley's position? 855 00:47:01,260 --> 00:47:02,980 Dating someone so much richer than yeah. 856 00:47:03,580 --> 00:47:08,260 I know they must have to talk about it, you know, in some way. 857 00:47:08,260 --> 00:47:12,260 Or yeah, they could see that being kind of tough. 858 00:47:12,420 --> 00:47:14,980 When I was doing the research for this podcast, it was like a 859 00:47:14,980 --> 00:47:18,020 day that I was feeling particularly poor, though it was 860 00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:19,860 like annoying me. Yeah. 861 00:47:20,340 --> 00:47:23,500 Just, I can't even imagine, like, not having to worry about 862 00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:26,660 money and that you can just, like, take someone on a surprise 863 00:47:26,660 --> 00:47:29,760 trip for their birthday. To Morocco, yeah. 864 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,240 Rent out the museum. Yeah. 865 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,160 Oh my God. Yeah. 866 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,920 Something like, I feel like I'll never be able to even bad them 867 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,880 crazy. OK, now we're in 2020, so Karen, 868 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,400 Ashley both post a picture of each other kissing on Instagram 869 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,560 for Valentine's Day and it's like one of those things. 870 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,960 It's like for every picture you post. 871 00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:57,190 You know, a donation to stand up to cancer. 872 00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:59,670 So it's not like a romantic caption. 873 00:47:59,670 --> 00:48:03,390 It's just like a charity kiss. Then March 2020. 874 00:48:03,830 --> 00:48:07,950 This is when COVID happened. So it seems like based off of 875 00:48:07,950 --> 00:48:10,750 like posts, they're quarantining together, like hanging out 876 00:48:10,750 --> 00:48:13,110 together. You guys might remember that 877 00:48:13,110 --> 00:48:17,470 they actually appeared in GAIL Gadot's Imagine music video. 878 00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:20,390 They sing that you may say that I'm a dreamer. 879 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,000 Line didn't. Remember. 880 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,280 That with Kaya Gerber, which they also post a lot of tik toks 881 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,560 with Kaya. I thought it was so strange, 882 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,960 like not that it matters, but like that they're I always hang 883 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,960 out with Kaya Gerber. Because she's way younger. 884 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,760 She's way younger. At this time, 2020. 885 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:43,520 Kaya Gerber is 18 years old, Kara is 27 and Ashley is 30 886 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,560 years old. And I like, I know that they're 887 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,730 like models and stuff, but. I just here at 26, like I 888 00:48:50,730 --> 00:48:52,130 wouldn't even hang out with an 18 year. 889 00:48:52,130 --> 00:48:54,090 Old Yeah, I know. So odd. 890 00:48:54,450 --> 00:48:56,090 Like, maybe if they're your sister, but. 891 00:48:56,210 --> 00:48:59,810 Yeah, just like hanging out. Like, yeah, what are you talking 892 00:48:59,810 --> 00:49:01,890 about, 30? Yeah. 30 years. 893 00:49:01,890 --> 00:49:05,130 Old, I know. I don't know what to say, yeah. 894 00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:07,130 It's just. Interesting. 895 00:49:07,370 --> 00:49:08,530 Yeah. It's just think about. 896 00:49:08,530 --> 00:49:11,330 It's just weird because, well, I think the reason I think it's 897 00:49:11,330 --> 00:49:13,450 weird is. Because Kaya Gerber, I think 898 00:49:13,450 --> 00:49:15,850 that's how she got on the scene. She's just hanging out with all 899 00:49:15,850 --> 00:49:17,770 these models. Like, to me that doesn't seem 900 00:49:17,850 --> 00:49:19,410 organic. Yeah, that's true. 901 00:49:20,770 --> 00:49:24,450 She's also nepotism, nepotism. Cindy Crawford is her mom, but. 902 00:49:25,170 --> 00:49:28,330 But yeah, I mean. But did you feel like she came 903 00:49:28,330 --> 00:49:29,490 out of nowhere? Kaya Gerber? 904 00:49:29,490 --> 00:49:32,890 Kind of, yeah. And you just wonder, like, what 905 00:49:33,010 --> 00:49:36,570 do you do with an 18 year old? Like are they drinking and 906 00:49:36,570 --> 00:49:38,610 stuff? Like, I don't know, just kind of 907 00:49:38,610 --> 00:49:40,250 weird. Yeah, it is odd. 908 00:49:40,450 --> 00:49:43,390 Feel like? Is John home? 909 00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:45,750 No, she's. Not just people out. 910 00:49:45,790 --> 00:49:51,310 Yeah, Let. Me do this like this lights 911 00:49:51,310 --> 00:49:53,910 aren't bright enough. But yeah so they're very like 912 00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:56,950 posting stuff online during this. 913 00:49:56,950 --> 00:50:01,350 Like it seems like they just got TikTok they posted TikTok of 914 00:50:01,350 --> 00:50:05,150 them lip syncing. Do you know the clip of Kourtney 915 00:50:05,150 --> 00:50:08,350 Kardashian, Scott Disick where Courtney is like. 916 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,280 A BCDEFGI have to go. No. 917 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,200 OK, yeah, it doesn't really make sense. 918 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,760 And Scott's like, what did you say? 919 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,720 And she's just like a BCDEFG and so they posted them like lip 920 00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:25,480 syncing that, but I think it's just interesting because a BCD 921 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,600 is their coupling, you think? Those on purpose. 922 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:34,160 I don't know, maybe it could be. Do people call them like a BCD? 923 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,260 Yeah, yeah, so I just thought. That's an interesting 924 00:50:38,260 --> 00:50:40,900 coincidence, you know. And they posted a few more of 925 00:50:40,900 --> 00:50:44,100 them, like doing other Kardashian stuff. 926 00:50:44,740 --> 00:50:50,060 April Ashley posted Instagram promoting a cover of the song 927 00:50:50,060 --> 00:50:53,980 Creep that she recorded with G Eazy He. 928 00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:57,100 Dated Lana for a minute. Did he really? 929 00:50:57,140 --> 00:51:00,220 Yeah. I don't know much about G Eazy, 930 00:51:00,780 --> 00:51:03,700 but so Kara does not like her comment on this post. 931 00:51:03,860 --> 00:51:05,700 Interesting. Wait, who recorded Kara or 932 00:51:05,700 --> 00:51:06,990 Ashley? Ashley. 933 00:51:07,470 --> 00:51:09,230 Did I say Cara? No, I just. 934 00:51:09,550 --> 00:51:11,710 Don't OK, yeah, Ashley posted this. 935 00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:16,590 Later on Cara gives an interview where she said that this time 936 00:51:16,590 --> 00:51:20,390 period, the pandemic was the most trying time for her. 937 00:51:22,270 --> 00:51:25,510 Which is probably because, OK, I didn't explain this. 938 00:51:25,510 --> 00:51:30,750 Why Cara and Ashley? Broke up before the song or 939 00:51:30,830 --> 00:51:32,550 after? I don't know. 940 00:51:32,550 --> 00:51:37,700 It's interesting timing, so. A source just said Cara and 941 00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:41,140 Ashley always had their ups and downs before, but now. 942 00:51:41,740 --> 00:51:45,100 But it's over now. Their relationship just ran its 943 00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:45,980 course. I. 944 00:51:46,340 --> 00:51:48,700 Feel like a lot of people broke up during the pandemic. 945 00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:52,300 They did, yeah. So Cara later makes it seem like 946 00:51:52,300 --> 00:51:55,940 it's like maybe for just like claustrophobia. 947 00:51:56,780 --> 00:52:00,180 And but she also said that that made the breakup harder, 'cause 948 00:52:00,220 --> 00:52:04,660 like she had less distractions. But is that really the reason? 949 00:52:05,470 --> 00:52:10,150 Because Ashley is then photographed in May with J Eazy, 950 00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:13,070 who she is now dating. Still. 951 00:52:13,070 --> 00:52:14,110 Yeah, she's still. With. 952 00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:14,990 Him. Yeah. 953 00:52:15,470 --> 00:52:18,150 So it's just kind of weird that she recorded a song with him in 954 00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:18,870 April. Yeah. 955 00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:22,310 The same month that her and Kara broke up. 956 00:52:22,310 --> 00:52:24,470 Yeah. And the next month she's like. 957 00:52:24,830 --> 00:52:25,670 Out. She's dating her. 958 00:52:26,110 --> 00:52:30,030 Yeah, So rumor starts spreading that she cheated on Kara. 959 00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:33,310 But then Kara posed an Instagram story that says. 960 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,560 It's more important now than ever to spread love, not hate. 961 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,720 Everyone hating on Ashley Benson, please stop. 962 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:41,840 You don't know the truth. Only her and I do. 963 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,640 And that's exactly how it should be. 964 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:47,080 Oh, that's sweet of. Her I Know and Ashley reshared 965 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,400 this order Instagram with a pink heart emoji. 966 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,680 I mean, people don't know that she's hated. 967 00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:55,760 Like sometimes people just, it's it's weird, but sometimes people 968 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,120 do starting someone. Right away, yeah. 969 00:52:59,540 --> 00:53:04,700 And then Ashley likes a fan post saying can't Ashley have friends 970 00:53:04,700 --> 00:53:06,700 now? Stop saying Ashley cheated or 971 00:53:06,700 --> 00:53:08,780 even Cara. They just need friends right now 972 00:53:08,780 --> 00:53:11,780 more than ever. Yeah, I know that's very 973 00:53:11,860 --> 00:53:15,100 wholesome. I know I didn't see and Ashley 974 00:53:15,580 --> 00:53:20,340 Ashley was appreciative of that. So now we're in December. 975 00:53:20,660 --> 00:53:24,380 Now there's a blind item though that's again this all alleged 976 00:53:24,420 --> 00:53:26,780 that says. About this blind item She is 977 00:53:26,780 --> 00:53:29,900 best known for her role on a very popular young adult 978 00:53:30,380 --> 00:53:33,340 oriented television show that is no longer on the air. 979 00:53:33,340 --> 00:53:36,620 Frankly, it's amazing that she even has time to work with the 980 00:53:36,620 --> 00:53:38,900 amount of dating she does. Her last five or six 981 00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:40,900 relationships have all been with celebrities. 982 00:53:41,180 --> 00:53:44,220 Well, at least one of those relationship was rather beardy 983 00:53:44,220 --> 00:53:46,220 in nature. There were a couple of real and 984 00:53:46,220 --> 00:53:49,660 serious relationships in there as well, The most recent real 985 00:53:49,660 --> 00:53:52,520 relationship. Was that with a famous fashion 986 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,320 model she dated for a couple of years. 987 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,040 Unfortunately, the model cheated on her and they broke up. 988 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,360 So now it's like, OK, people thought Ashley cheated on Kara, 989 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,760 but maybe Kara cheated on Ashley and we don't know, but we don't 990 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,960 know the reason I said that the Elon Musk thing might come back 991 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,800 into play. Amber Heard cheated on Johnny 992 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,970 Depp with Kara. Supposedly allegedly. 993 00:54:16,090 --> 00:54:18,970 At this time period. No, no, but beforehand. 994 00:54:19,090 --> 00:54:21,530 So makes you think like Oh well, carrot doesn't have an issue 995 00:54:21,530 --> 00:54:25,490 with cheating and there are rumors that Cara is a notorious 996 00:54:25,490 --> 00:54:30,330 cheater, but we don't know. My mind is just boggled with all 997 00:54:30,330 --> 00:54:31,890 these people. I know, yeah. 998 00:54:31,930 --> 00:54:35,170 There's too many people that play a lot of blonde people too. 999 00:54:36,450 --> 00:54:39,410 Yeah, so true. A lot of blonde people. 1000 00:54:40,010 --> 00:54:45,050 So anyways, March 2021, Ashley gives an interview for Cosmo and 1001 00:54:45,050 --> 00:54:48,850 she isn't directly asked about her sexuality, but she's asked 1002 00:54:48,850 --> 00:54:51,770 about the Gate storyline and Pretty Little Liars, which is 1003 00:54:51,770 --> 00:54:54,370 like at this point years ago. So what storyline? 1004 00:54:54,610 --> 00:54:56,130 A gay storyline? Is there? 1005 00:54:56,130 --> 00:54:57,130 A gay? I said Gate. 1006 00:54:57,290 --> 00:55:01,770 No. Yeah, Shay Mitchell's character 1007 00:55:01,770 --> 00:55:05,290 is a lesbian. OK, so yeah, so Ashley Benson 1008 00:55:05,290 --> 00:55:07,330 has asked about that. So obviously it's like trying to 1009 00:55:07,330 --> 00:55:10,070 get her to talk about being gay. She says. 1010 00:55:10,070 --> 00:55:12,670 I'm not quite sure how many shows had that before ours. 1011 00:55:12,670 --> 00:55:15,350 It's important, especially in this day and age, to just be 1012 00:55:15,350 --> 00:55:19,030 true your true self and not feel judged by how your heart feels 1013 00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:22,390 and who you are as a human being and who your soul connects with. 1014 00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:24,110 I certainly feel that way about myself. 1015 00:55:24,110 --> 00:55:26,870 It's who I connect with. It's not about gender, anything 1016 00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:28,110 like that. And I think that's really 1017 00:55:28,110 --> 00:55:29,670 important for people to understand. 1018 00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:32,270 There's no reason that somebody should get bullied or talked 1019 00:55:32,270 --> 00:55:33,950 about or shut off for who they love. 1020 00:55:34,330 --> 00:55:37,130 I think acceptance right now it's everything, and the more we 1021 00:55:37,130 --> 00:55:39,810 can educate people about these topics, the better it will be 1022 00:55:39,810 --> 00:55:44,210 for everyone. It was like, I don't know, There 1023 00:55:44,210 --> 00:55:49,410 were some shows, I guess Degrassi and I don't know, But I 1024 00:55:49,410 --> 00:55:52,970 do feel like it was very new, that, like, there was a show 1025 00:55:53,530 --> 00:55:56,370 about four girls and one of them was gay, you know? 1026 00:55:56,410 --> 00:55:58,650 Yeah, it was a pretty big deal at the time. 1027 00:55:58,650 --> 00:56:01,490 So even though it wasn't even that long ago, it's crazy. 1028 00:56:01,530 --> 00:56:06,240 Yeah, seriously, actually. Like, I feel like in a show 1029 00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:08,800 prior would have been a much bigger deal too. 1030 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,960 I mean, I actually didn't see Pretty Little Liars. 1031 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,960 They treated it. But also that month Ashley was 1032 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,040 on Paris Hilton's podcast and says that she just wrote and 1033 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,960 directed a project, which actually don't really know what 1034 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,000 that is over the past year, which helped her get through a 1035 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,720 breakup and said it was annoying going through yet another 1036 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,240 breakup publicly with someone else who was famous. 1037 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,600 I think she was actually talking about J Eazy who I think they. 1038 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,040 Temporarily broke up, but got back together. 1039 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,000 I think they're very often on, but you know, by by saying 1040 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,880 another breakup, she's also kind of talking about Ashley or Cara. 1041 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:46,280 Sucks. Yeah. 1042 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,560 And she said she, like, hates that part of fame, but like, 1043 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,080 it's like what she signed up for. 1044 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,320 Also April that year, Ashley likes a picture of Cara on 1045 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,920 Instagram. In May of that year, Kara posts 1046 00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:03,360 a picture of herself crying on Instagram with the caption. 1047 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,320 If you need to cry, just cry and know you are not alone. 1048 00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:09,480 Your tears will water your growing garden if you can fully 1049 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,040 understand why it's raining. And Ashley likes the picture. 1050 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,000 And she also likes the picture of Kara hanging out with friends 1051 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,840 in May. In June, Kara says in Cosmo. 1052 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,040 I don't feel like I've ever left a relationship so fucked up 1053 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,180 that. It's been like I never want to 1054 00:57:25,180 --> 00:57:27,900 speak to that person again. I just love all people I was 1055 00:57:27,940 --> 00:57:30,300 ever with and want the best for them, you know what I mean? 1056 00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:32,180 I want to see them grow, see them happy. 1057 00:57:33,460 --> 00:57:34,660 So that's. Very sweet. 1058 00:57:35,140 --> 00:57:36,700 I know, yeah. So I really, truly feel like 1059 00:57:36,700 --> 00:57:39,420 there's no bad blood. Then Cara posts another picture 1060 00:57:39,780 --> 00:57:42,860 of herself cuddling with a dog and the caption is Big spoon, 1061 00:57:42,860 --> 00:57:45,100 Little Spoon. And Ashley likes the picture. 1062 00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:48,100 You know, this is a while after they dated. 1063 00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:51,550 So really, like, I don't think that, like, they really had a 1064 00:57:51,550 --> 00:57:53,550 bad breakup. Even if one of them cheated. 1065 00:57:53,550 --> 00:57:57,030 I think they, like it really did just run its course. 1066 00:57:57,030 --> 00:58:00,350 There's nothing salacious. That's nice. 1067 00:58:00,430 --> 00:58:03,350 Yeah. That's very hard to achieve, 1068 00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:08,280 even though Cara does. I mean, I don't know her, we 1069 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,520 don't know these people, but like, she does seem like a 1070 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,800 little crazy party. Or maybe, I don't know, maybe 1071 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,160 she's cheated. Like, we don't know. 1072 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,320 But she does seem to have like a really big heart. 1073 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,920 She does like, I feel like, you know, if she were to cheat or 1074 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,800 something, it's like kind of out of love. 1075 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,480 Just for everybody. Everybody for humankind, like 1076 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,320 it's not a malicious thing, yeah. 1077 00:58:34,540 --> 00:58:38,300 I do think she seems probably like a nice person, and Ashley 1078 00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:40,940 seems nice too. I love that she's friends with 1079 00:58:40,940 --> 00:58:42,860 Kristen Surib. OK, Speaking of, I don't want to 1080 00:58:42,860 --> 00:58:46,900 say this though, there was a blind item in May 2 months ago 1081 00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:50,540 from when we're recording this now that says this Foreign born 1082 00:58:50,860 --> 00:58:54,260 carries from London. Foreign born model slash Bad 1083 00:58:54,260 --> 00:58:56,780 actress. I mean kind of mean. 1084 00:58:57,060 --> 00:58:58,700 I'm not saying that the blind item is saying. 1085 00:58:58,700 --> 00:59:02,900 It says says she partied this week with an A list actress who 1086 00:59:02,900 --> 00:59:06,380 used to be in that awful book series turned franchise and they 1087 00:59:06,420 --> 00:59:09,700 ended up in bed together. So some people think that's 1088 00:59:09,700 --> 00:59:13,300 Kristen Stewart, but obviously I don't think it's Kristen Stewart 1089 00:59:13,300 --> 00:59:14,580 because Kristen Stewart is engaged. 1090 00:59:14,780 --> 00:59:17,420 Yeah. Could be just totally made-up. 1091 00:59:17,540 --> 00:59:21,540 Totally made-up, but also, but I guess I wouldn't say Ashley's an 1092 00:59:21,660 --> 00:59:24,660 A Lister but could you interpret that as an A list actress? 1093 00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:27,340 Used to be an awful book series turned franchise like Pretty 1094 00:59:27,340 --> 00:59:28,540 Little Liars. Was a book. 1095 00:59:28,580 --> 00:59:30,580 That's. True series that turned into a 1096 00:59:30,580 --> 00:59:33,540 series. But would someone call her a 1097 00:59:33,620 --> 00:59:35,220 list? No, I don't know. 1098 00:59:35,460 --> 00:59:39,300 I mean, this could truly be anybody, but people think it. 1099 00:59:41,630 --> 00:59:43,630 I don't know if she's gay or whatever queer. 1100 00:59:43,870 --> 00:59:46,510 Yeah, I mean, people do think it's Kara and Kristen, but I 1101 00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:50,350 don't want to spread that rumor because it's not true. 1102 00:59:50,430 --> 00:59:52,030 Yeah, it's not true. Debunked. 1103 00:59:53,150 --> 00:59:54,830 But you're just sharing what you heard. 1104 00:59:54,830 --> 00:59:58,630 Sharing what I heard for yeah, the people at home. 1105 00:59:59,310 --> 01:00:03,510 I guess also like all these relationships, we never know if 1106 01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:07,150 they're open or whatever you. Know exactly that's so true. 1107 01:00:07,150 --> 01:00:10,290 Like they might. Like that? 1108 01:00:10,570 --> 01:00:14,290 Yeah. So that's just, you know, a 1109 01:00:14,290 --> 01:00:17,970 rumor mill. Tread lightly with blind items 1110 01:00:17,970 --> 01:00:20,970 like that. She Ashley is still with G Eazy 1111 01:00:21,010 --> 01:00:23,650 to this day. She is, and Kara is reportedly 1112 01:00:23,650 --> 01:00:27,770 dating Minke MINKEI. Think it's a singer. 1113 01:00:28,890 --> 01:00:32,570 She's a singer, so I think they're like on good terms. 1114 01:00:34,310 --> 01:00:37,230 Is this the part where we rate how likely we think they are to 1115 01:00:37,230 --> 01:00:40,550 get back together? Yeah, what do you think? 1116 01:00:42,270 --> 01:00:44,310 I'm? Gonna say like this one is a 1117 01:00:44,310 --> 01:00:47,430 little bit higher, like I think I'm gonna say like 40%. 1118 01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:49,950 Mmhmm. I was gonna say like 50. 1119 01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:52,670 Yeah, like it would not be out of this World 50. 1120 01:00:52,750 --> 01:00:54,950 Percent chance. There's some couples we will 1121 01:00:54,950 --> 01:00:56,470 cover. It will be like 0. 1122 01:00:56,470 --> 01:00:58,830 But yeah, especially if one of them died, yeah. 1123 01:01:00,030 --> 01:01:01,350 Horrible. Yeah. 1124 01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:06,510 Well, maybe then we could say in heaven we'll they be together. 1125 01:01:08,070 --> 01:01:13,150 I know supposedly there isn't. Really. 1126 01:01:13,510 --> 01:01:16,390 If you believe in that, according to a priest I asked 1127 01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:20,750 one time about you. Yeah, it was like, I don't What 1128 01:01:20,750 --> 01:01:22,870 happens? Like, if you remarry, like, who 1129 01:01:22,870 --> 01:01:24,510 are you with? And he was like. 1130 01:01:25,150 --> 01:01:27,510 You weren't really with anyone. You're just like with God. 1131 01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:29,190 And that was like disappointing. Me. 1132 01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:32,750 That is disappointing. But I I guess if you're like if 1133 01:01:32,910 --> 01:01:37,870 if we do transcend like the limits of human emotions or 1134 01:01:37,870 --> 01:01:39,990 whatever the heck, like maybe you wouldn't have like, 1135 01:01:40,790 --> 01:01:43,230 possessiveness to people or. That's so true. 1136 01:01:43,350 --> 01:01:44,990 Yeah, you wouldn't care. We're all. 1137 01:01:44,990 --> 01:01:47,550 Just holding hands and. Yeah, and it's. 1138 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,040 I don't know. I don't know what the heck 1139 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,360 happens. But yeah, I know that's tough 1140 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,800 for me to wrap my head around. I know, especially when I was 1141 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,480 younger, I was like, I don't get how people get remarried. 1142 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,760 Oh, I know. Who are they going to be with? 1143 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:06,600 It's going to be so awkward. Oh my gosh, I think that. 1144 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,480 It's a dog. Titanic. 1145 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,760 Yeah. When on Rose finally gets to 1146 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:17,070 heaven and her husband's like. Rose, I've been waiting for. 1147 01:02:17,310 --> 01:02:18,630 You waiting for you for 50 years? 1148 01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:21,430 Yeah. And then she starts kissing 1149 01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:22,590 Jack. Yeah, you just. 1150 01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:28,630 Have three beautiful children. Rose, what are you doing? 1151 01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:31,990 I literally have thought that about Titanic before. 1152 01:02:32,650 --> 01:02:34,690 She guesses to heaven and kisses Jack. 1153 01:02:34,690 --> 01:02:37,490 Who she spend like 2 days with? Literally. 1154 01:02:37,810 --> 01:02:38,810 Yeah. What about her husband? 1155 01:02:39,290 --> 01:02:42,050 Yeah, her husband knew she had a years on marriage. 1156 01:02:42,130 --> 01:02:44,330 Yeah, three kids. 50 years. Yeah. 1157 01:02:44,770 --> 01:02:46,290 Beautiful children. Oh my God. 1158 01:02:49,090 --> 01:02:51,890 I have watched that like a million times too. 1159 01:02:51,890 --> 01:02:53,170 That's. So clever. 1160 01:02:54,330 --> 01:02:57,130 Yeah, even like the show. This Is Us Like spoiler. 1161 01:02:57,330 --> 01:02:59,250 Mandy, skip ahead of me. Yeah, skip ahead. 1162 01:02:59,450 --> 01:03:04,020 Mandy Moore's character. She dies at the like series 1163 01:03:04,020 --> 01:03:08,140 finale and she has two wonderful husbands throughout the series 1164 01:03:08,220 --> 01:03:12,700 and she seemingly is with the first one in the end, which of 1165 01:03:12,700 --> 01:03:15,860 course I understand. What do you mean by like in 1166 01:03:15,860 --> 01:03:19,100 heaven? Yeah, yeah, we'll pull. 1167 01:03:19,380 --> 01:03:20,300 The second. Husband. 1168 01:03:20,340 --> 01:03:23,340 The second husband. She just like passes him in the 1169 01:03:23,340 --> 01:03:26,060 train, which is like symbolic for the afterlife. 1170 01:03:26,060 --> 01:03:27,940 I mean, you can interpret it however you want. 1171 01:03:28,990 --> 01:03:30,630 They get a smile. That's it. 1172 01:03:30,750 --> 01:03:32,670 They have. I know it's it's sad because 1173 01:03:32,910 --> 01:03:35,310 it's like for him, like his heaven would be with. 1174 01:03:35,310 --> 01:03:36,910 Her. Oh my God. 1175 01:03:36,990 --> 01:03:41,270 But I guess I've also heard that like, everybody's heaven is like 1176 01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:44,470 what they would want it to be. But I would feel kind of weird 1177 01:03:44,470 --> 01:03:48,470 if, like, it's not even. I know, like it's my Are we not 1178 01:03:48,510 --> 01:03:50,230 all in the same heaven? Together, we're just all 1179 01:03:50,390 --> 01:03:53,910 dangerous. Oh my gosh. 1180 01:03:54,270 --> 01:03:55,890 So. We'll see. 1181 01:03:56,050 --> 01:03:59,890 We'll see, yeah. Or maybe we won't, but then it 1182 01:03:59,930 --> 01:04:01,410 won't matter. But I get into that. 1183 01:04:01,610 --> 01:04:04,370 Yeah, but. I'm also very afraid of death. 1184 01:04:04,370 --> 01:04:05,810 Me. Too said that the other day. 1185 01:04:05,890 --> 01:04:10,010 Me too. Yeah, we were actually on a 1186 01:04:10,010 --> 01:04:12,210 podcast. Not Quiet. 1187 01:04:12,210 --> 01:04:16,770 Just thinking. Supposed to come out August 1st, 1188 01:04:17,450 --> 01:04:18,900 right? Yes, August 1st. 1189 01:04:19,140 --> 01:04:21,940 Yeah, so by the time this episode airs, it will be 1190 01:04:21,940 --> 01:04:23,780 available. So you guys should check that 1191 01:04:23,780 --> 01:04:25,660 out. We talk about our experience 1192 01:04:25,900 --> 01:04:28,700 hosting another Bad at Twilight and now this podcast. 1193 01:04:30,060 --> 01:04:33,380 It's very nice conversation, but yeah, we talked about death a 1194 01:04:33,380 --> 01:04:36,420 little bit so. Yeah, yeah, I'm really afraid of 1195 01:04:36,420 --> 01:04:37,940 it. Me too. 1196 01:04:37,940 --> 01:04:41,260 Me too. But I guess when it comes to 1197 01:04:41,260 --> 01:04:45,460 love like, it's helpful to have a little bit of fear because 1198 01:04:45,580 --> 01:04:48,780 whenever you get like. In your head about stuff, 1199 01:04:49,860 --> 01:04:53,140 especially like taking chances and everything, it's helpful to 1200 01:04:53,140 --> 01:04:57,220 remember like you are gonna die. So that's true. 1201 01:04:58,060 --> 01:05:01,780 Don't really get caught up in the little things, 'cause at the 1202 01:05:01,780 --> 01:05:03,500 end of the day, it's like not gonna matter, you know? 1203 01:05:03,500 --> 01:05:05,260 That's so. Do you have an embarrassing 1204 01:05:05,260 --> 01:05:07,020 moment with someone? It doesn't matter. 1205 01:05:07,020 --> 01:05:08,020 You're gonna die. I know. 1206 01:05:10,020 --> 01:05:12,060 So not as nice. This sounds weird, but like if 1207 01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:13,620 you're like, upset with somebody. 1208 01:05:13,990 --> 01:05:16,150 That you care about to remind yourself that they're gonna. 1209 01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:17,270 Die. Exactly. 1210 01:05:17,270 --> 01:05:20,190 It's like, Oh my God, yeah. And then you feel terrible. 1211 01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:22,710 Yeah, like yelled at them or something. 1212 01:05:23,550 --> 01:05:29,630 Yeah, So in conclusion, it's nice that Kara and Ashley are 1213 01:05:29,630 --> 01:05:29,990 on. Good. 1214 01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:32,590 Terms. Exactly, exactly. 1215 01:05:32,590 --> 01:05:37,590 I mean that's all you can do. Like yeah, so I but that might 1216 01:05:37,590 --> 01:05:40,310 leave the door open like I think this was a really serious 1217 01:05:40,310 --> 01:05:41,990 relationship for the both of them seems. 1218 01:05:42,190 --> 01:05:45,520 Like it and? I think they really were in 1219 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,160 love, and maybe it was just like a COVID breakup. 1220 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,560 I know that's sad. That really tested a lot of 1221 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:52,560 people. Yeah. 1222 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,240 I mean, at the end of the day though, like, they had a lot of 1223 01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:57,800 space. Like, it's not like they were 1224 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,080 living in like a teeny tiny apartment. 1225 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,440 That's so true, they probably could have done like, whatever 1226 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:03,960 they. Wanted. 1227 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,680 Yeah. Like, I don't really necessarily 1228 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,400 feel like. I think if their relationship 1229 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,720 was more solid, they could have easily survived that. 1230 01:06:12,450 --> 01:06:14,610 Yeah, shows fractures that were already there. 1231 01:06:15,450 --> 01:06:18,610 That's a VCD, so. I learned a lot. 1232 01:06:19,290 --> 01:06:21,810 I'm glad. You know, I I I did wish that 1233 01:06:21,810 --> 01:06:26,890 there was like a little bit more scandal, but I'm happy there's 1234 01:06:26,890 --> 01:06:29,890 not. Yeah, I was thinking maybe 1235 01:06:29,890 --> 01:06:34,530 someday we could do an episode that has like 6 couples or 1236 01:06:34,530 --> 01:06:36,170 something. Yeah, like a quick where there's 1237 01:06:36,170 --> 01:06:39,050 like really no information about them, but we just want to. 1238 01:06:39,820 --> 01:06:40,740 Say something about. Them. 1239 01:06:40,820 --> 01:06:44,780 Yeah, Yeah, that'd be fun. Something to think about 1240 01:06:44,900 --> 01:06:46,380 somebody. Yeah, because there's some 1241 01:06:46,380 --> 01:06:48,980 people I have thought about, but it's like, oh, they're like, 1242 01:06:49,060 --> 01:06:51,140 it's really. Yeah, that'd be like a. 1243 01:06:51,140 --> 01:06:54,380 Ton of big enough couple or maybe they're both like be less 1244 01:06:54,380 --> 01:06:56,860 or less or something. It's like, oh, I don't think we 1245 01:06:56,860 --> 01:06:59,380 could do a whole episode about them, but I think. 1246 01:06:59,380 --> 01:07:03,300 Some of the more niche ones, honestly, like in the ones with 1247 01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:05,900 less information, are almost more fun because it's like a 1248 01:07:05,900 --> 01:07:09,180 challenge to uncover any little thing about them, yeah. 1249 01:07:10,430 --> 01:07:14,310 I also have to respect Kara and Ashley for never deleting 1250 01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:17,270 pictures of each other. Yeah, from their Instagrams. 1251 01:07:17,550 --> 01:07:19,950 I love that. My purpose is it made it super 1252 01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:23,310 easy to go back and keep a record. 1253 01:07:23,310 --> 01:07:25,870 Like there's a lot of couples I want to do that have deleted 1254 01:07:25,870 --> 01:07:28,910 stuff I do. Really respect that. 1255 01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:32,030 I yeah. I like young people. 1256 01:07:32,030 --> 01:07:33,030 Keep their. Pictures up? 1257 01:07:33,070 --> 01:07:34,990 Yeah. I mean, I can understand taking 1258 01:07:34,990 --> 01:07:37,990 it down. Yeah, at the same time, but. 1259 01:07:39,340 --> 01:07:41,540 I've done both. I think when you're a public 1260 01:07:41,540 --> 01:07:44,900 figure, like people already saw it, people have already saved 1261 01:07:44,900 --> 01:07:47,220 it. So you're taking it down like 1262 01:07:48,580 --> 01:07:52,700 it's not like erasing it. Yeah, I just love when people 1263 01:07:52,700 --> 01:07:55,380 keep all. I mean, sometimes you don't know 1264 01:07:55,380 --> 01:07:57,260 what people have deleted some things, but when they keep 1265 01:07:57,300 --> 01:08:01,140 everything like all their old pictures, it just feels so real 1266 01:08:01,140 --> 01:08:02,900 to me and shows that they're like. 1267 01:08:03,470 --> 01:08:05,830 It's so nonchalant. Like, yeah, I don't care if you 1268 01:08:05,830 --> 01:08:09,710 see my exactly 2009 pictures or whatever, you know, they're. 1269 01:08:09,710 --> 01:08:13,310 Not hiding anything. Yeah, I have taken even with 1270 01:08:13,550 --> 01:08:15,750 like pictures of friends. Like I've just taken them down 1271 01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:17,470 before if I'm not friends with them anymore. 1272 01:08:17,470 --> 01:08:21,950 So I understand. I kind of OK, this is weird. 1273 01:08:21,950 --> 01:08:25,149 Today I was, I don't know, I shouldn't have done this, but I 1274 01:08:25,149 --> 01:08:26,830 don't know why. I went on my Facebook and just 1275 01:08:26,830 --> 01:08:29,430 started looking through all my old pictures and it was actually 1276 01:08:29,430 --> 01:08:31,029 so cool. I mean, I guess you can just do 1277 01:08:31,029 --> 01:08:32,790 this with your own photo collection or like. 1278 01:08:33,229 --> 01:08:35,550 Even printed photos, like it doesn't need to be online. 1279 01:08:35,550 --> 01:08:40,990 But so cool to go through the time and like, just see how 1280 01:08:40,990 --> 01:08:44,830 things change and I don't know, yeah. 1281 01:08:45,229 --> 01:08:47,069 I know. I was actually paying a lot of 1282 01:08:47,069 --> 01:08:52,510 attention to fashion because I've been like, having a core 1283 01:08:52,510 --> 01:08:54,950 life crisis since, like things from when we're younger, like 1284 01:08:54,990 --> 01:08:56,189 back in. I know, yeah. 1285 01:08:56,870 --> 01:08:59,069 But you know what's so interesting to me I didn't 1286 01:08:59,069 --> 01:09:03,180 realize that? We still wore like the sorry 1287 01:09:03,180 --> 01:09:05,460 this is not any of these couples, but like we still wore 1288 01:09:05,460 --> 01:09:10,260 the Cami look like into 2011. Yeah, isn't that crazy? 1289 01:09:10,260 --> 01:09:11,939 I know. Actually, I believe it. 1290 01:09:11,939 --> 01:09:13,180 I. Always thought that was way 1291 01:09:13,180 --> 01:09:14,740 earlier like that it kind of stopped. 1292 01:09:14,740 --> 01:09:17,220 But literally even you stop pictures of you. 1293 01:09:17,220 --> 01:09:20,540 We were doing that in 20. 11 It was such a slow, I feel like 1294 01:09:21,020 --> 01:09:23,819 because it was such an integral part of like to our wardrobe, 1295 01:09:23,939 --> 01:09:29,240 like it was such a slow fade out, yeah. 2011, I feel like and 1296 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,160 maybe it's the same for like deculator, maybe every decade, 1297 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,319 the first couple years of different, but like it changed 1298 01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:38,080 so much because. That year, so transitional I saw 1299 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,080 on. Facebook that I was wearing like 1300 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,600 low rise skinny jeans but like sometimes they were still a 1301 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,160 little flair but like low rise with the cami. 1302 01:09:47,580 --> 01:09:50,939 But later that year I was wearing like high waisted floral 1303 01:09:50,939 --> 01:09:53,380 shirt shorts like. No, no, it was just like. 1304 01:09:53,620 --> 01:09:58,300 In a T-shirt with no hammy like. It was really so transitional 1305 01:09:58,300 --> 01:09:59,300 that year. Yeah. 1306 01:09:59,300 --> 01:10:00,460 And that was a crazy year. Yeah. 1307 01:10:00,460 --> 01:10:02,620 That was when Kara De Levine became the IT girl. 1308 01:10:02,620 --> 01:10:03,700 The eyebrows. Yeah. 1309 01:10:03,700 --> 01:10:06,660 I did want to say like a follow up about, like, Kara De Levine 1310 01:10:06,660 --> 01:10:11,140 is like, she's definitely gone through a major. 1311 01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:14,990 Downfall. I think her public perception 1312 01:10:14,990 --> 01:10:18,830 like not that people like hate her, but she was so cool, yeah. 1313 01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:20,230 Yeah. Yeah, and I feel like now that 1314 01:10:20,230 --> 01:10:25,270 people know she's like such a nepotism baby, like that makes 1315 01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:29,470 people not like her as much. And she's kind of going through, 1316 01:10:29,470 --> 01:10:32,550 like the Katy Perry thing, where like she's just perceived as 1317 01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:37,510 like annoying and like making weird faces and kind of like. 1318 01:10:39,090 --> 01:10:42,290 I don't know. Just a past like the best at the 1319 01:10:42,330 --> 01:10:45,850 Billboard Music Awards. She was there and like she kept 1320 01:10:45,850 --> 01:10:50,570 popping into like shots and pictures with like Doja Cat and 1321 01:10:50,610 --> 01:10:53,730 like the stallion and. She's making crazy faces. 1322 01:10:53,770 --> 01:10:58,170 Yeah, just making crazy faces and like, I think the like, 1323 01:10:58,290 --> 01:11:02,650 quirky, relatable girl act has gotten old for her and now 1324 01:11:02,650 --> 01:11:06,530 people just find her annoying. I kind. 1325 01:11:06,530 --> 01:11:08,530 Of hate that, though, it's anyone that. 1326 01:11:09,870 --> 01:11:14,230 I don't know. It's like being themselves too 1327 01:11:14,230 --> 01:11:17,150 much is then annoying. And like, maybe they are, but. 1328 01:11:17,230 --> 01:11:19,470 Yeah, what? Does annoying even mean? 1329 01:11:20,470 --> 01:11:23,590 I know, yeah. I think also people don't didn't 1330 01:11:23,590 --> 01:11:25,950 really like her Met gal look that said Peg. 1331 01:11:25,950 --> 01:11:29,190 The patriarchy. And it's like you're literally 1332 01:11:29,190 --> 01:11:33,190 like a part of the patriarchy. You're like. 1333 01:11:33,510 --> 01:11:36,270 Wait, how is she a part of? The Well, I guess like she's. 1334 01:11:37,010 --> 01:11:38,730 You know. Well, she's part of the like. 1335 01:11:39,130 --> 01:11:41,650 Elite, elite, Elite. So it's. 1336 01:11:42,290 --> 01:11:44,730 But I mean isn't it good that she has those opinions at the 1337 01:11:44,730 --> 01:11:47,290 same time, like isn't it good that she's like? 1338 01:11:48,050 --> 01:11:50,250 I know it's tough. Yeah, because I mean, at the 1339 01:11:50,250 --> 01:11:53,370 same time, it's like, yeah, she's a nepotism baby, but like, 1340 01:11:53,410 --> 01:11:54,650 what is she gonna do? I was. 1341 01:11:54,890 --> 01:11:56,970 Gonna say that couple minutes ago, yeah. 1342 01:11:56,970 --> 01:11:58,970 Just sit around and like, do nothing. 1343 01:12:00,610 --> 01:12:02,050 Sorry guys, there's an emergency. 1344 01:12:02,050 --> 01:12:04,930 It's New York. This emergency, yes. 1345 01:12:06,060 --> 01:12:10,820 Yeah, I mean, it is kind of frustrating, but at the same 1346 01:12:10,820 --> 01:12:12,460 time, what is she supposed to do? 1347 01:12:12,460 --> 01:12:14,300 Not that I, like, feel that bad for her. 1348 01:12:14,300 --> 01:12:15,820 I'm not gonna, like, cry about it. 1349 01:12:15,860 --> 01:12:17,700 But like, what is she supposed to do? 1350 01:12:17,860 --> 01:12:20,540 Yeah, but the fact that she was born rich, I don't know. 1351 01:12:20,540 --> 01:12:23,700 Yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, it's kind 1352 01:12:23,700 --> 01:12:29,420 of good that she still works. I do think too a lot of really. 1353 01:12:30,470 --> 01:12:32,670 Wealthy, rich people, Not all, but like sometimes I think they 1354 01:12:32,830 --> 01:12:35,230 do donate to things and. Yeah. 1355 01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:37,670 You know, give back, but people don't really know. 1356 01:12:37,750 --> 01:12:40,110 Yeah, exactly. Not publicize that much. 1357 01:12:40,230 --> 01:12:41,350 Yeah. I don't know. 1358 01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:43,270 Oh, yeah. She, I should have mentioned on 1359 01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:45,750 Ru Paul's podcast, she did talk about like all these 1360 01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:49,910 organizations that she, like, works with and that she, like, 1361 01:12:50,270 --> 01:12:54,230 really loves to be like a humanitarian and did a lot for 1362 01:12:54,230 --> 01:12:56,870 like. Women in countries like, where 1363 01:12:56,870 --> 01:13:00,270 they didn't have, like, sanitary products, yeah, So she like, 1364 01:13:00,270 --> 01:13:03,270 really does give back. I do think she's a good person. 1365 01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:06,910 At the end of the day, she's. Trying her best. 1366 01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:10,790 Yeah, I guess. That's Kara and Ashley. 1367 01:13:10,790 --> 01:13:14,870 That's a VCD, Ashley. And Kara, thank you guys so much 1368 01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:17,190 for listening. Thank you if you enjoyed this 1369 01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:20,790 episode. You could give us a review, 1370 01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:22,910 that'd be really nice. Could you please? 1371 01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:26,550 Yeah. Apparently reviews help with the 1372 01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:32,150 freaking algorithm, you know. We had one hitter already give 1373 01:13:32,150 --> 01:13:34,910 us a one star. I know, so that brought us down. 1374 01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:38,430 It's like, and granted, we're recording this before an episode 1375 01:13:38,430 --> 01:13:41,070 has even come out, so obviously it's someone who has beef with 1376 01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:43,830 us. We know who you were. 1377 01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:45,310 Yeah. That's good. 1378 01:13:46,710 --> 01:13:49,670 We don't. If you guys have any information 1379 01:13:49,670 --> 01:13:52,190 about who that was, let us know. We can find out. 1380 01:13:52,430 --> 01:13:55,830 Yeah, do you want to tease what our next? 1381 01:13:56,110 --> 01:13:58,110 Episode will be Yeah, I guess so. 1382 01:13:58,510 --> 01:13:59,310 So. It's my turn. 1383 01:13:59,310 --> 01:14:02,110 Yeah, without naming names. I don't name names, yeah. 1384 01:14:02,190 --> 01:14:03,470 Last time you didn't, right? Yeah. 1385 01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:12,510 This is a very famous couple, I would say from the late 1960s. 1386 01:14:13,850 --> 01:14:19,210 Into the 80s and interesting. Should I say anything else? 1387 01:14:20,090 --> 01:14:23,490 That's all you need to say, unless you want to reveal more. 1388 01:14:25,050 --> 01:14:26,970 I feel like. How would you give us one of 1389 01:14:26,970 --> 01:14:30,090 your of the three words that you would use to describe this 1390 01:14:30,090 --> 01:14:33,250 couple? I would say intense. 1391 01:14:34,850 --> 01:14:36,530 Yeah, I'm excited. It's an intense. 1392 01:14:36,530 --> 01:14:40,730 Relationship next week. OK, All right. 1393 01:14:40,770 --> 01:14:42,090 It's hard. It's always hard to sign. 1394 01:14:42,130 --> 01:14:42,810 Off. I know. 1395 01:14:43,090 --> 01:14:43,890 Thanks. We love you. 1396 01:14:44,010 --> 01:14:46,610 We love you. So grateful to everybody. 1397 01:14:46,730 --> 01:14:49,250 We still need to come up with our sign off phrase. 1398 01:14:49,810 --> 01:14:52,810 Maybe comment like suggest ones if you have an idea. 1399 01:14:54,930 --> 01:14:59,010 We love, love and we love. You stay significant. 1400 01:14:59,010 --> 01:15:01,170 Yeah, stay. I can say significant is hard to 1401 01:15:01,170 --> 01:15:04,690 spell sometimes. Yeah, stay significant. 1402 01:15:05,130 --> 01:15:08,010 Yeah. You're significant to. 1403 01:15:08,810 --> 01:15:09,970 Us. Yeah, Yeah. 1404 01:15:09,970 --> 01:15:13,650 Such a good thing to say. We're still working it out. 1405 01:15:13,770 --> 01:15:14,690 Yeah, OK. OK. 1406 01:15:14,810 --> 01:15:21,370 Bye guys. Your heart peeed with pain. 1407 01:15:27,970 --> 01:15:42,570 Tell me, dear, how do you learn? Turn, turn on.