1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:08,039 Are you lonesome tonight? Do you miss me tonight? 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:16,880 Are you sorry we drifted apart? Does your. 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,200 Hi, everybody. Hey, guys. 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,800 Welcome back to Significant Lovers. 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:31,800 I'm Kelly and I'm Mel. We're cousins, Cousins and this 6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,760 is a true love podcast about famous couples and history and 7 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,280 pop culture. And yeah, welcome to season 8 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,120 three. This is our third year of this 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,960 podcast. Wow, it's been so fun. 10 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,760 Welcome to everybody new, everybody that's been with us 11 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,360 since the beginning. We love you and I can't believe 12 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,680 it's taken until our third year to do this. 13 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,200 Couple today. I know this is a big couple, 14 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,840 this flagship. Yeah. 15 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:10,600 And it's a long back and forth. Is Miley and Liam. 16 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,200 Miley Cyrus. Liam Hemsworth, Yes. 17 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,280 And if you haven't listened to it on Patreon, we covered Miley 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,400 Cyrus before. In the past we covered her 19 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,160 relationship with Nick Jonas, which I hope you guys remember 20 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:29,760 that from 2006, 2007, that was a. 21 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,680 Cute episode, I'll link to it in the description. 22 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:38,600 Yeah, that couple was a lot more off and on than I had ever 23 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,040 thought it was. A lot of it was like one of 24 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,720 those relationships where you're in it, but it actually doesn't 25 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,840 even last that long. But once you're broken up, 26 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,080 you're not really broken up. You keep going back. 27 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,720 You definitely lingered a lot, and that's kind of similar to 28 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,800 this relationship. And so I feel like with that in 29 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,640 mind, there's a lot of like, you know, why do you sometimes keep 30 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,840 going back to someone? We've talked about this in the 31 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,640 past, like how many times is too many times to break up? 32 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,280 And is it a pattern? Is it something that we can grow 33 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,960 out of with new relationships? Maybe, I think. 34 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,240 Yeah, I hope so. But that's interesting. 35 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,920 Maybe is it a pattern? Was it a pattern for Miley 36 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:20,360 Cyrus? Yeah, I don't know. 37 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,040 I'm not because we covered her in the past. 38 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,160 I'm not going to go too much into her back story, but 39 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,800 definitely I would recommend that episode. 40 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,640 And I feel like just a few words to describe Miley. 41 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:34,200 We all know her. She's expressive, confident, 42 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,040 impulsive, carefree, free spirited. 43 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,640 A little chaotic, yes, but I feel like she does have a very 44 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:44,600 big heart and she's very genuine. 45 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,240 She does. She does. 46 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,640 She's she's very, I wouldn't say that she's like calculated like 47 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:53,560 some other celebrities are. She's just, she is who she is. 48 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,880 Remember she randomly showed up in the Joaquin Phoenix and Liv 49 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,320 Tyler? Yeah. 50 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,200 She's just hanging out with them. 51 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,920 She's like, when she was really young, could just like, hold her 52 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:07,760 own among adults. She was like a teenager just 53 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,080 goofing around with them. Yeah, I don't even know why, but 54 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,040 oh, Miley. Oh Miley, she's funny. 55 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,960 But then Liam. So he was born January 13th, 56 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,320 1990 in Melbourne, Australia. Hey, that's the same birthday as 57 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,840 my friend Maddie. Oh nice. 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,000 Yeah, anyway. His mom was an English teacher 59 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,680 and his dad was a social services counselor. 60 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,760 And he has two brothers, Chris and Luke. 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,880 He moved to Phillips Island in Australia during high school, 62 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,080 and he spent a lot of time surfing. 63 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,840 You know, he's that kind of stereotypical Australian guy. 64 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,320 But he was also very inspired by his older brothers who had begun 65 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,640 acting before him. It's like that's very common. 66 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,120 And he did school plays, and he got an agent. 67 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,160 And then he did Australian TV shows, including a show called 68 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,320 The Neighbors and The Elephant Princess. 69 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:10,560 And then, when he was 19, he moved to Hollywood and began, 70 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,800 like, pursuing his career in the United States full time. 71 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,280 So young. Yeah. 72 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,120 What is that with Luke Hemsworth? 73 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,200 Because Chris Hemsworth, if anyone doesn't know, he's also a 74 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,600 very successful actor. Yeah, Hemsworth is like, he's 75 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,920 kind of different from them. Like I hate to say he's like 76 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,600 shorter than them. Interesting. 77 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,120 He does act he's but he's not like a leading man. 78 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:34,760 I don't. OK. 79 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,920 But he, he has roles. He he's still working, OK. 80 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,240 Yeah, I think he was in Westworld. 81 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,680 OK. This movie called The Death of 82 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,320 me. I'm looking at his eye. 83 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:50,320 But so Liam I would describe as being goofy, quiet, kind of 84 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:59,760 traditional, bro Y laid back. Yeah, kind of mysterious, I 85 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,240 would say. A little stoic. 86 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,880 Oh my gosh, he sounds like your type. 87 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,840 I know. He is he is a little hot headed, 88 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:11,240 I think not, not my type and a little Moody. 89 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,600 And the three words that I would use to describe this 90 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:22,160 relationship are silly, unstable and incompatible. 91 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:28,600 Oh, no. Not a great sign, but showering, 92 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,920 Yeah, we're going to go back to 2009. 93 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,400 And so as Miley is beginning to transition her career away from 94 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,720 Disney Channel, she met with the Disney executive Jason Reed. 95 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,280 And at this time, Disney was trying to help Miley expand her 96 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:48,680 star power beyond just Disney. They wanted to introduce her to 97 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,120 older audiences. I know. 98 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,280 I feel like, why would you want to? 99 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,480 Yeah, do that. Disney have a hand in that. 100 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,640 I don't really know, but they wanted to just help her 101 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,000 transition into more mature roles. 102 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,600 And they asked her like, what kind of projects would you want 103 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,760 to do? And she said she wanted to do a 104 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,240 movie similar to A Walk to Remember. 105 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,880 Oh. Yes, which is a Nicholas Sparks 106 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,040 book that they then made into a movie with Mandy Moore. 107 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,880 I feel like she was like saying she kind of wanted to like 108 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,640 embody Mandy Moore's career trajectory a little bit, which 109 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,680 is interesting because I feel like Miley doesn't really act at 110 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,560 all nowadays. I know. 111 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,920 I feel like a lot of those Disney stars have kind of not 112 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,880 Selena Gomez as much, but a lot of them have like given up on 113 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,640 acting all together. Yeah, does seem like they pick 114 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,320 one or the other. Well. 115 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:42,040 I guess Hilary Duff stopped. Music. 116 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:44,120 Yeah. I feel like her music career 117 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:49,000 never really got going. I guess Selena Gomez still sort 118 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,160 of does both, but she she takes a lot of time off between age it 119 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,760 seems. Yeah, I agree with that. 120 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,280 Demi Lovato, definitely. I don't think acts anymore. 121 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:01,800 Definitely music, but yeah, but then Zendaya, I mean, I don't 122 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:03,800 actually know she had an album. I. 123 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,920 Forgot, I didn't even realize that she had music until 124 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,680 recently. Did. 125 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:09,600 Yeah. No, she did. 126 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,760 Right? She did. 127 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,120 Yeah. Yeah. 128 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,920 She's an actress, though. Yeah. 129 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,560 Yeah. They definitely choose one or 130 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,840 the other. Which one would you pick, Mel, 131 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,200 assuming that you had great talent in both, which I do not? 132 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,680 I feel like acting is harder, but I feel like I would pick 133 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,400 that. I think it's easier for them to 134 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,520 make money with music. Yeah, I think I would. 135 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:39,440 I think I would pick music. Yeah, if I had to pick, yeah. 136 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,360 The thing is, I I don't wanna say something negative about 137 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,200 Miley off the bat. I think she's so talented and 138 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,600 such a great performer. I think the actual Miley songs, 139 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,240 she hasn't really had too many that are like that she's written 140 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,680 that have been amazing. I feel like she kind of still 141 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,160 struggles to find her identity. In music, yeah, I know. 142 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:06,200 It seems like she's always changing her sound and style, 143 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,880 and I there's been a couple times in her career where I felt 144 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,840 like, yeah, this is what she should be doing. 145 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,000 I don't know. I wish she would stay away from 146 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,560 the Super pop music, even though it is good. 147 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,120 Sometimes I just think her voice sounds better with the more rock 148 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,440 or like country sound. Yeah. 149 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,280 And like, she'll start to do that, but then she leaves it and 150 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,240 like, I don't know. Yeah, it's a little all over the 151 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,000 place. Like hip hop ish. 152 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,280 Yeah, it's interesting. But so from there, Disney called 153 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,360 the the director of A Walk to Remember, and he signed on to 154 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,320 the project without even any project to sign on to. 155 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,799 So he just was going to direct a. 156 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,280 Oh wow. Titled Miley Cyrus Movie. 157 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,680 That's how big of a star Miley was at the time, that she could 158 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:52,880 just say something and make it happen. 159 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,560 And then her people called Nicholas Sparks and asked if he 160 00:08:57,560 --> 00:09:00,120 had any books that he was working on that might be a good 161 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,520 fit for Miley. And he didn't at the time, but 162 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,880 he said he would be down to write about a teenager. 163 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:07,920 Oh my. Gosh. 164 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,800 He wrote the script for the last song before he even wrote the 165 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,240 book. What I didn't realize it was 166 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,880 written basically for her. Yeah. 167 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,720 Oh, it was. And that's why she's, like a 168 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,280 musician in the movie. Like, the character is named 169 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,880 Ronnie, which is after her grandfather. 170 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,200 She had a lot of like creative input too in the story. 171 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,840 That's so interesting. I know. 172 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:38,880 So around this time, Miley is 16 and Liam is 19. 173 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,400 Obviously Liam is cast in the other lead role, the romantic 174 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,400 lead role in the last song, and tabloids are reporting that 175 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,560 Miley is dating her Co star Liam on this. 176 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,960 Because all these pictures of them making out come out, but 177 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,240 it's from filming. They're like on the beach. 178 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,240 But it's interesting 'cause if you go back and listen to our 179 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,480 Miley and Nick episode, it definitely still seems like at 180 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,880 this time something was still kind of lingering with her and 181 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,400 Nick. There were still sightings of 182 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,360 them together and evidence that they might still be dating. 183 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,160 I remember that. I mean that, yeah, that happens 184 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,680 sometimes. You're like, you're still 185 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,800 talking to your ex or hanging out or whatever, and then you 186 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,680 meet somebody else and you like them too, and that happens. 187 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,480 Yeah, especially when you're young. 188 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Miley denied these claims of 189 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,600 dating Liam. She posted on Twitter dumb 190 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,320 blogs. I do not have a boyfriend. 191 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:35,800 Stop wasting your time making up lies. 192 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,600 I would be so depressed if that was my reason to breathe. 193 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,760 All I want to know is who are these sources? 194 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,000 Who is the insider? I'm sure their parents are very 195 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,200 proud, huh? They are professional liars. 196 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,640 OK. But weirdly, right after that, 197 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,600 she was photographed kissing Liam at the airport in 198 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,240 Nashville. What? 199 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,560 OK. I feel like, yeah, she was still 200 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:05,760 attached to Nick somehow. And then that's why she had that 201 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,840 whole reaction and then. But there was a little truth to 202 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,560 it, you know? Yeah, I'm just guessing. 203 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:18,160 Just maybe she liked Liam, but she was embarrassed. 204 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,160 She didn't want him to know or something. 205 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,840 I don't know. But meanwhile, there are stories 206 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,840 coming out at this time that Liam's ex-girlfriend of five 207 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,800 years, his high school sweetheart, a girl named Laura, 208 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,360 claimed that Liam dumped her when he returned to Australia 209 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,040 after shooting the last song. And that up until that point she 210 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,640 had believed that all those photos were just a part of the 211 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,240 movie. Maybe that's why Miley denied 212 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:48,080 it, because he didn't. Oh yeah, true. 213 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,760 This girl Laura apparently wrote on her Facebook page. 214 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,040 Which this is a different time. Everyone was. 215 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,600 I know like. Open at that. 216 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,120 Sharing everything, Yeah, she wrote. 217 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,800 Liam and I have been inseparable since school, but it's Miley 218 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,400 Cyrus. How can I compete? 219 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,640 Girl, don't do that. I know. 220 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,280 If you want them back, don't post stuff like that. 221 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:17,760 I know. Poor Laura. 222 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,720 Like we said a couple episodes ago, the path to getting over 223 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,440 someone and the path for winning them back are the same paths A. 224 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,280 100%. Which is moving on with your 225 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,400 life. Yes, mentioning them like by 226 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,880 name in a Facebook post. I I'm not judging this girl. 227 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:39,880 She was young. I get it. 228 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,640 But I'm just. I'm just trying to give some 229 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:48,640 advice to our young listeners. Yeah, yeah, be careful. 230 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:50,680 Poor Laura. I know. 231 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,000 So in October of that year, after they had finished filming, 232 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,680 Miley tweeted, FYI Liam doesn't have a Twitter and he wants me 233 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:03,600 to delete mine with good reason. And after that she did delete 234 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,720 her Twitter and blogs were reporting that it was because of 235 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,880 Liam because she had put that out before. 236 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,440 But then she released. Do you remember this? 237 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,840 She released like an iMovie rap on YouTube where she rapped 238 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,400 about deleting her Twitter. No, I don't. 239 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,640 She was like yeah, the rumors are true at deleting my Twitter. 240 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,200 Can you believe I finally got got 2,000,000? 241 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,280 But I had to say wait, why do I remember it all? 242 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:28,840 Oh my. God. 243 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:35,440 I had to say adios, I had to say goodbye and this little rap is 244 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,760 to tell my fans why. So she also this I wrote down, 245 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:46,200 she tweeted no she rapped. No it wasn't because my friend 246 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,520 told me to. Y'all know what very well what 247 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,840 you say I don't do and the reasons are simple. 248 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,680 I started tweeting about pimples. 249 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:57,800 I stopped living for moments and started living for. 250 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,080 People. Wow, was this all from memory? 251 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,960 No, this, but so she interesting she referred to Liam as a 252 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,400 friend, but it kind of does seem like she deleted it because I am 253 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,200 because she told us he wanted her to. 254 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,040 And then in December, this is not really anything to do with 255 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,440 their relationship, but it was reported that Liam and his 256 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,680 brother had allegedly been in a involved in a drunken bar fight 257 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,720 several months back. And I want to bring that up 258 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,920 because I said he's a little hot headed. 259 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,080 So maybe that might give some, you know, indication of his. 260 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,600 OK. His character a little, I don't 261 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,600 know. But now we're in 2010 and they 262 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,360 are doing press for the movie and Liam is asked in an 263 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,880 interview if he's dating Miley. And here is a little clip. 264 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,720 Did I read somewhere that you guys were dating or just 265 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:50,680 friends? Yeah. 266 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,760 I mean, you know, I, I I get nervous talking about my private 267 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,400 life, but yeah, I mean, it's it's hard to deny. 268 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:58,920 Yeah. So many photos. 269 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,880 Great. So cool. 270 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,480 Now, has she been over to Australia yet? 271 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,160 Have you shown her? Yeah, she came over around New 272 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,200 Year's. Oh, that's great. 273 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,200 Yeah, it's cool. You know, it's nice to show her 274 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,240 where I'm from and see how I live and what I grew up doing 275 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,640 and yeah. Oh, that. 276 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,800 That did make me blush a little bit. 277 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,800 That was cute. I like when they just say yeah 278 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,800 yeah dating then. It's crazy. 279 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,920 I don't know it. It just made me feel something, 280 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,840 seeing him being kind of awkward and shy, and then, yeah, we 281 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:37,080 can't. Deny And then I also have a clip 282 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,680 from May of that year of Miley talking about their relationship 283 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,320 on the Graham Norton Show. You found love in a film, didn't 284 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,360 you? Yeah. 285 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,480 Yeah. You're all loved up. 286 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,720 Yeah, I actually, I got flowers sent to my hotel this morning 287 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,560 and I was really excited and it was really sweet. 288 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,280 It was the first time you ever like, sent me flowers on the 289 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,360 road. So I was really excited. 290 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,800 And it's really cool that you get to work with someone that 291 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,240 you like. And he he too has ABS and that's 292 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,320 nice too. Because this is his name's Liam 293 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,200 Hemsworth and he now if you work that he used to be in a home and 294 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,880 away in neighbours. Yeah, which I've never seen. 295 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,000 But he's never seen Hannah Montana. 296 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,240 Is that? Yeah, I never seen his show 297 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,120 either. It was I think it was good that 298 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,680 he didn't have any pictured as like, you know, the Disney and 299 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,400 he actually was like ready to work with someone that was 300 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,280 excited about a new movie instead of just thinking like 301 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,800 I'll know here someone thinks they're going to be like a real 302 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,040 actress and not work out. So it was good. 303 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,520 And and was your first the one on the screen? 304 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,840 Yeah, which was sprung on us because we on the script it said 305 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,120 Miley and Liam frolic on the beach. 306 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,320 And I was like, alright, I can frolic, that's fine. 307 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,920 So I decided to go on to my frolickingness and they start 308 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,200 yelling like make out. And I'm like OK, so I'm like 309 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,720 jumping. I'm like wait, what'd you say? 310 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,680 You know, I can't be the one that's like come on. 311 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,320 So our first scene was actually the first day, which is, yeah, 312 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,400 our anniversary coming up. And after that, I was just like, 313 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:06,240 Yep, he's, he's awesome. But now I just said 18 soon, 314 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,040 yeah. Anniversary. 315 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,599 I'm getting really nervous. Yeah, no. 316 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,599 Do you think? Wedding bells? 317 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,800 Oh no. Well, I can't marry him. 318 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:17,800 And then you can and. Then. 319 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:22,880 I control. It all the time, you know, I 320 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,560 just don't know I. Think you might as well. 321 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:25,800 It's as good as it's going to get. 322 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,560 Don't tell me that. Seriously, it will never be 323 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:30,640 better than. This one. 324 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,160 Marry this one. You agree with me, don't you, 325 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,040 Usher? Well, partially, I think it's up 326 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,920 to him to ask her, right? Yeah, it was a ring. 327 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,120 And like a big one, yeah. Liam Cheapo flowers Where's the 328 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:42,520 rock? Not. 329 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,880 That Lily all. That sofa and so they could 330 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,040 watch me at home and away proposing. 331 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,200 Get on with it. Oh. 332 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,520 Exciting now when they get married, because we'll know that 333 00:17:54,520 --> 00:18:00,440 it all started here. Oh my gosh, so many thoughts, I 334 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,040 know. But I that just is a testament 335 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:08,080 to how fast Miley grew out that she'd be 17 and the interviewer 336 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,960 would be saying, oh, get married. 337 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,360 I know so young. I was thinking before he said 338 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:15,600 that. I was just thinking in my head 339 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:20,320 how she's so young, such a teenager, so cute. 340 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,600 Yeah. And then to ask married soon. 341 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,720 Like, calm down. She's 17. 342 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,280 She's literally a child. She's so sweet, though. 343 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,480 I know. She's just so good at like, 344 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,600 having fun within years. I know she seems so carefree, 345 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,240 she just talks so easily. The guy next to her was JP from 346 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,080 Fresh Meat. Exciting and was. 347 00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:48,240 Was Usher. Also there Usher was there too. 348 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:54,720 Yeah. It it's they do seem different. 349 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,240 Like he does seem more reserved and not quiet, but speaks much 350 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,720 more slowly and carefully. And she's a lot more like 351 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,040 bubbling energetic. Yeah. 352 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,360 Like he's, he's not gonna say too much. 353 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,160 Yeah. But so then in August of that 354 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,680 year, Liam's Rep confirmed to Pupil that the two have split 355 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:18,000 after a year, a year after they first met and or a year after 356 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,720 they were first reported to be dating. 357 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,880 What already? It's over. 358 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,040 Just kidding, because then as the whole. 359 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,120 Happens. A month later, it seems that the 360 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:35,280 breakup was short lived because they are photographed kissing in 361 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,160 a car in LA. OK. 362 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,800 So that's their first breakup. OK. 363 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,760 So then in early November that year, Liam has been back home in 364 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,600 Australia for almost a month. Can put a stress on any 365 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,800 relationship. And while there, witnesses 366 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,440 claimed that Liam looked single after he was spotted partying 367 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,640 with a blonde Australian model at a club in Melbourne. 368 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,320 What? Meanwhile, on November 21st, she 369 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,960 had a big 18th birthday party and while there she was spotted 370 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,040 kissing victorious star Even Hagia. 371 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,120 He plays. I've actually never watched 372 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:17,480 Victoria. Me neither. 373 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,000 I don't know the character's name, but he has brown hair. 374 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,760 He's kind of like a rocker looking guy on that show. 375 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,680 So it seems like her and Liam might be broken up right now. 376 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,000 But then in December, you guys remember this. 377 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,400 A video is leaked of Miley smoking a bong while partying. 378 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:40,040 And the video was filmed by an alleged friend five days after 379 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,760 her 18th birthday. And in the video, she rips the 380 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,520 bong and is laughing a lot. And she's very all over the 381 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,880 place. And she points to someone off 382 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,360 camera and she says, is that a Liam look alike or like, what 383 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:55,920 the hell is that? Is that Liam? 384 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,280 Is that my boyfriend? And then you hear the friend. 385 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,680 The friend says, stop that. Don't talk about that. 386 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,400 That's a buzzkill. But Miley keeps saying he looks 387 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,920 so much like Liam. He looks so much like my 388 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,200 boyfriend. So it's like, are they broken 389 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:10,920 up? It seems like. 390 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,880 Why would that be a buzzkill though? 391 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,600 Exactly. And like, she was just making 392 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,280 out with someone the other day, so they must be on a break 393 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,560 maybe, maybe like because he's home in Australia for a month, 394 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,880 they're on a break and they're going to get back together or 395 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,680 something. But that's strange. 396 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,000 Yeah, it already seems like there's some issues. 397 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:36,240 So then it's 2011 and it's February and Miley is filming 398 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,200 her new movie So Undercover, which apparently was a really 399 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,960 bad movie. I don't remember that. 400 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,600 It never was really released. It had a very small release and 401 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,000 then I think was like straight to DVD or something. 402 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,760 I don't know why. Like she's such a big star, even 403 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,440 if it's a bad movie. I guess it can happen to 404 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,200 anybody. Yeah, but it was rumored maybe 405 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,880 she was dating her Co star from that movie, but it never got 406 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,320 confirmed or went anywhere. And then in March, she is on an 407 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,400 Australian radio show and she was asked if she was dating 408 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,880 anyone and she said I may or may not be single, but I love 409 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,280 Australian boys, obviously. And when asked about Liam, she 410 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,600 said we're very close. I'm not going to comment too 411 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,240 much. So it's definitely like in a 412 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,720 Gray area. Yeah, and then in April, they're 413 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,080 back together. Be well, it seems, because 414 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,000 they're spotted in a car together. 415 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,640 And meanwhile, this month is when Liam is announced to be 416 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,440 playing GAIL in The Hunger Games. 417 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,840 Oh my God. So he's becoming a bigger star. 418 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,120 Was a big role for him. Turning point. 419 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,720 Yeah. So it's 2012 now, and things 420 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,400 seem to be going very well for them. 421 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,160 They're both very much together and they appear in love. 422 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,280 They're outwardly a couple, there's no Gray area anymore. 423 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,520 And in March, the 1st Hunger Games comes out and they walk 424 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,640 the red carpet together. And around this time, it's 425 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,880 actually rumored that they might be engaged. 426 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,040 After, of course, Miley starts wearing a ring on that finger. 427 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,520 Oh my gosh, is that on our drinking game? 428 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,080 I think it. Might be. 429 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:14,120 Take a drink. Should be. 430 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,880 If you're not driving right now, take a drink people. 431 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,720 Why do they always do as they always wear a ring on their ring 432 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,640 finger? It's so weird. 433 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,360 Has to be on purpose. And then act like annoyed slash 434 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:29,760 surprise when people think they're engaged. 435 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,640 It's like you're not marrying any other ring except a ring on 436 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,680 that finger. That's the wedding ring finger. 437 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,560 I feel like it also doesn't have to be a diamond ring for people 438 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,320 to think it's an like a, an engagement ring doesn't have to 439 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,040 be a diamond. Any ring on that finger signals 440 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,000 engaged or married. It's true. 441 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,240 I feel like it's good that people walk around with like, 442 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,640 you know, their relationship status so you don't accidentally 443 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,160 hit on someone. Yeah, and embarrass yourself. 444 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,440 I know it's kind of cool. Yeah, yeah, Miley denies this. 445 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,080 She treats. I'm not engaged. 446 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,440 I've worn the same ring on this finger since November. 447 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,760 People just want to find something to talk about. 448 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,240 It's Topaz people. So. 449 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,000 You can have a Topaz engagement ring, but a few months, a few 450 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,040 months later, in June, a 19 year old Miley tells People magazine 451 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,840 in a statement. I'm so happy to, I'm so happy to 452 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,560 be engaged and look forward to a life of happiness with Liam. 453 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,760 What? She keeps denying things on 454 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,000 Twitter and then it they turn out to be true. 455 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:43,440 It's so weird. Why is she doing this? 456 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,760 You can't trust her. You know, this was when she was 457 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,880 wearing her iconic topknot bun. I don't know if you guys 458 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,800 remember, there were these buns, a Twitter handle, Miley's bun. 459 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,640 She wore that. Everywhere. 460 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,920 Yes. This was one of my favorite eras 461 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,440 of Miley. Yeah, mine too. 462 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,720 I love the bun. But just as quickly as she let 463 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,120 it go, in August that year, she cut her hair, which was a 464 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:17,960 changing points in her career in this relationship. 465 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,160 In her public image, she dyed it platinum blonde. 466 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,240 People freaked out. People did not like it. 467 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,200 Very short. Very short. 468 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,640 Yes, I mean she's gorgeous, she can rock any hairstyle, but this 469 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,720 really marked the beginning of her bangers era. 470 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,440 Yes. Which was a cultural reset. 471 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,960 Her bad girl era. Yeah, and this was AI mean, you 472 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,560 guys remember it was a massive departure from Disney. 473 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,960 And I feel like I would liken it to JoJo Siwa's transition right 474 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,120 now where like people definitely. 475 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,600 It was so shocking because it was so different from what 476 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,040 people were used to that people were definitely like making fun 477 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,480 of it a lot. So this is when the song We 478 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:05,560 Can't Stop came out. At the time, not quite yet, but 479 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,200 I guess I jumped ahead. But I remember when it came out, 480 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,640 I remember saying out loud it was like the worst song ever. 481 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,360 But I actually love it now. But. 482 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,200 It is the music video. It's funny because they have 483 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,520 those lip balms in it that are. Oh yeah, the Essos. 484 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,720 Essos, yeah, they're like a little circle. 485 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,920 Yeah, obviously. But it's like I rewatched it. 486 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,520 I was like this kind of an ad, yeah. 487 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,520 I love the look of that video though, it's very cool. 488 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:34,360 Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I would say 489 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:38,760 this era is defined by a lot of more like hip hop and club 490 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,920 inspired music, a lot of twerking. 491 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,800 She stuck out her tongue all the time. 492 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,960 I was just about to say that she's naked a lot. 493 00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:53,320 I feel like it's a lot of shock factor. 494 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,600 She's trying to shock people. And I love Miley, but I feel 495 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,440 like definitely I've, I hear some of the criticism that she's 496 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,680 like appropriating hip hop music at this time too. 497 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,520 Like I feel like people she's like twerking, but in a way 498 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,120 that's like kind of making a mockery of it because people are 499 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,160 kind of making a mockery of her, even though I think she's doing 500 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,960 it earnestly. It's like kind of like I'm so 501 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,560 crazy. I don't know. 502 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,400 Yeah. But so, yeah, then there are 503 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,600 reports that Liam is getting very frustrated with Miley's 504 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,200 constant tweeting and especially tweeting stuff about their 505 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,880 personal life. And September of that year, she 506 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,480 tweeted Ever feel like you just no, she says. 507 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,320 Ever feel like you want just ever feel like you just want dot 508 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,840 dot dot something more? Not sure what exactly. 509 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:52,160 Dot dot dot passion, perhaps? Then she tweeted no, there is 510 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,800 not trouble in paradise. dot dot dot just thoughts. 511 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,160 And apparently he was really embarrassed by that. 512 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,960 Interesting. Yeah, I would be too. 513 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,800 She also tweeted, Sometimes I feel like I love everyone more 514 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,000 than they love me. Hate that feeling, which is sad. 515 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,280 I feel like anyone in her position would feel that way. 516 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,160 When you're kind of like a product or other people to make 517 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,160 money off of, yeah. She also tweeted. 518 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,960 Why do I torture myself and whatnot. 519 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,600 PS I love you. Ah, I gotta put it all together. 520 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,360 I have to. I have to pull it all together, 521 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,400 yeah. Crazy. 522 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,560 Little yeah, it's a little erratic at this time. 523 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,760 Liam was also away filming The Hunger Games, Catching Fire in 524 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,760 North Carolina. I don't know if they're having 525 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,880 issues with that. Yes, this, this was a time still 526 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,600 where people were kind of posting whatever thought went 527 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,360 through their head, but I still feel like some people took it 528 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,080 further than others and she kind of seems like that kind of 529 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,840 person. Yeah, she seems to have low 530 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,920 impulse control at this time. We've had a couple people like 531 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,720 that on the show. Yes. 532 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,240 Well, not on the show as a guest, but you know. 533 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,440 I mean, Liam, I think also has low impulse control, but in a 534 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,600 different way because then in December, once again he gets in 535 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,920 another bar fight. Oh my goodness. 536 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,200 So you weren't just making this up? 537 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,880 No. No. 538 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,120 What about him being hot? Yeah, yeah, no, it came from 539 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,920 somewhere. So then it's January 2013 and 540 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,880 Miley was talking to Cosmo and said about Liam. 541 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,040 I'll literally look at him and be like you are hot. 542 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,520 Dear God. The other day I turned on the 543 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,680 pool heater and it was steaming and he walked outside and took 544 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,240 off his clothes and jumped in the pool. 545 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,480 I was like I'm going to faint. The hottest guy of my life in a 546 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,760 steaming pool. This looks like a Playgirl 547 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,320 shoot. That's cute also. 548 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,280 I know she also said. So I took a photo and made it 549 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,600 the background on my phone. My best friend grabbed my phone 550 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,920 and was like who's that? He's so hot. 551 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,720 That's my hubby. It's my hubby. 552 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,160 Yeah, so because she used the word hubby, naturally people are 553 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,880 wondering if they are already married, but they're not. 554 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:15,480 So then it's February and Lina and Miley have been engaged for 555 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,120 eight months. However, there are multiple 556 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:23,200 reports, many different news sources that say that Liam was 557 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,040 getting hot and heavy with actress January Jones at a pre 558 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,560 Oscars party. What like, where would that come 559 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,080 from specific a pre Oscars party? 560 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,440 There is going to be pressed there. 561 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,760 So I kind of tend to believe it. What the hell? 562 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,160 A source claims that they were all over each other and even 563 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,640 kissed. However, sources tell enews that 564 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,800 Miley and Liam are totally fine. Don't know what to make about 565 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,760 that in March. Breakup rumors continue to 566 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,920 swirl, which is amplified by the fact that Liam took a one way 567 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,280 trip home to Australia in March with no plans to come home. 568 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,040 People say I don't know how they know that. 569 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,880 And he and Miley are taking a break and. 570 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,040 Maybe he just didn't get his ticket back yet. 571 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,800 Yeah, I know. I mean, he's ready. 572 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,240 She doesn't have to back down to then. 573 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,720 It's April, and it's reported that Miley and Liam have 574 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,760 postponed their wedding due to ongoing issues. 575 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,200 Oh no. A source tells People magazine 576 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,200 that Miley and Liam had another agreement. 577 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,280 I'm sorry, another argument before the weekend. 578 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,520 Another agreement would be good. Another argument before the 579 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,280 weekend and the engagement ring is off again. 580 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,560 Oh my gosh. So this is signaling a lot of on 581 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,200 and off. Like it sounds like the 582 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,880 engagement ring comes off, it comes off. 583 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,720 Another source says they don't want to get married until they 584 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,400 figure out all of their problems. 585 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,680 But Miley is very worried about losing Liam. 586 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,080 She is crazy about him. It's crazy how long ago this was 587 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,080 this. I know this story is going to 588 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,200 be. There's a lot more to go. 589 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,520 I know over 10 years ago. It's crazy. 590 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,360 So in May, Miley did an interview with V Magazine, and 591 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,240 she tries to negate any breakup rumors by saying that she and 592 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,960 Liam just lead very busy lives and that they don't have time to 593 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,280 be photographed when they're together and that they would 594 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,120 often just hang out at home. And maybe. 595 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,920 Yeah. But it's interesting is at this 596 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,920 time, Miley is photographed a lot out and about, and she's 597 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,320 consistently not wearing the ring. 598 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,800 And then she is wearing the ring, but at this point she's 599 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,280 been wearing it for a couple. Weeks I I love Miley, but I feel 600 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,600 like at this point we can't really trust what she says. 601 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,960 No, he's already lied to us. So then it's June and Liam 602 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,480 actually joined Twitter even though he didn't have issues 603 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,160 with it, and he followed Miley. And it's interesting because he 604 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,320 was so against it. But I literally already said 605 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,280 that. So then it's June 20th, and 606 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,160 Miley and Liam are photographed together for the first time in 607 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,400 five months. They're leaving a movie theater 608 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,280 holding hands. Also, Miley goes on Good Morning 609 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,600 America and the reporter asked if wedding bells are in her 610 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,280 future. And Miley says I'm wearing a 611 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,000 ring. So seems like it's back on. 612 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,480 Yeah. Then the next month, they went 613 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,200 on vacation to Canada together. Things seem to be OK. 614 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,680 In August, they walked the red carpet at the premiere of his 615 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,680 new movie Paranoia. But then August 25th, this was 616 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,760 Miley's infamous VMA performance when she twerked on stage with a 617 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,160 foam finger. Robin Thicke mm Hmm during his 618 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,160 performance of Blurred Lines. Blurred lines. 619 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,800 I always associate blurred lines and we can't stop together. 620 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,040 Me too. They just go together. 621 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,320 I will say I rewatched the clip and I hate to say this but if I 622 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,040 was Liam I would have not been cool with that performance cuz 623 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,640 she's like unless he signed off on it like she's like grinding 624 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,320 up on him and like. Yeah, remind me, I haven't 625 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,640 watching forever. She's like, really? 626 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,120 He's like following her around on stage and she's takes the 627 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,679 foam finger like puts it on his Dick. 628 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,199 She starts grinding on him like twerking on him like wow her 629 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,520 butt. Her butt is like where his Dick 630 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,520 is like it's very sexually explicit. 631 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,400 She looks like she's naked because she's wearing a skin 632 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,520 color bodysuit. And I I hate to be this way 633 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,560 because I don't want to be like a prude or like shaming my The 634 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,719 only reason I'm saying this if you're in a relationship and the 635 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,320 other person isn't comfortable with that. 636 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,199 It's understandable. It is understandable. 637 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:38,639 Yeah. Like I think if I saw my 638 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,960 boyfriend, like all up on another girl, even though I know 639 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,280 it's a part of a performance, I feel like maybe you have to 640 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,080 agree with it. But I guess two sides of the 641 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,280 coin. He's an actor. 642 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,320 He makes out with people in movies and stuff. 643 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,760 This is her job. He did make out with Jennifer 644 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:02,080 Lawrence in the movies. So I don't, I don't know, I kind 645 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,040 of see both sides. Yeah, but we don't, we don't 646 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,920 know the whole story. Like I would be curious, not 647 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,800 that it's our business, but if he knew about it and like how 648 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,880 much was told to him. I wonder if he knew that like, 649 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,360 Oh yeah, we're going to be silly. 650 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,160 Like, I'm going to do this with a phone finger, but maybe, yeah, 651 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,960 maybe he didn't know the whole extent. 652 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,800 Also, it's OK to like change your mind later too if you 653 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,200 realize that wasn't cool. Yeah, exactly. 654 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,360 Well, the tabloids are reporting that Liam was allegedly 655 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,680 mortified by her performance and that her new persona is not what 656 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,880 he signed up for, which I guess I would say to that. 657 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,120 It's like, that is Miley Cyrus. Like, she literally has a song. 658 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,600 You can't be. I can't be tamed. 659 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,720 Yeah. Here I was just a second ago 660 00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:48,800 like defending Liam, but now I'm like oh that sucks for Miley. 661 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,400 It's sad. I know she doesn't like her new 662 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:56,640 interests twerking and sticking out her tongue. 663 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,360 I know, but news breaks soon after that they have officially 664 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:06,600 broken up and OK, this is crazy. One day later, Liam was 665 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,600 photographed making out with Mexican American singer Elsa 666 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,640 Gonzalez. Liam and yeah, they were spotted 667 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,760 running errands and workout clothes together, which someone 668 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,840 at the time said that seems like something you do with, not 669 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,880 someone you're casually seeing, like working out together. 670 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,160 Well, let's run some errands. Like what? 671 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,200 One day after I'm sure like the announcement wasn't maybe the 672 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,560 day they broke. Up, but that's. 673 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,560 So soon. I'd be pissed if I was Miley. 674 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,400 Yeah. How did you line that up so 675 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,360 quickly? You had to have been maybe 676 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,960 texting this girl on the side. Just slap in the face how 677 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,880 quickly I was replaced and now you're thinking to me when you 678 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,360 fuck her. Oh, it's too odd to know. 679 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,440 Yeah. Also weirdly, that same month, 680 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,520 this girl Elsa is photographed in a store next to a mannequin 681 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,960 that's wearing the same outfit that Miley wore during the VMA 682 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,760 performance. And there's a framed photo of 683 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,760 Miley during in, like in her outfit next to the mannequin and 684 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,920 this girl's photograph, like pointing to it and grimacing. 685 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:21,040 Oh my gosh, yeah. OK, that's, that's a lot, yeah. 686 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,640 And then the Wrecking Ball music video comes out. 687 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,960 Crazy. That was huge. 688 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,600 So big. But see, that was like huge, but 689 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,440 like kind of a joke. Kind of, yeah. 690 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,080 But at the time people said it was a good song. 691 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,560 I think people actually liked it. 692 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,760 I remember, I feel like we talked about this on the 693 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,680 podcast. I just remember in College in 694 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,440 the dorms, everyone had would have their doors open and stuff 695 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,960 and everybody was watching this music video when it came out, 696 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,200 like at the same time. It definitely got so much 697 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,480 attention, mileage, crying. It's very emotional. 698 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,560 I think it's a good song. But she's like on the Wrecking 699 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,480 Ball and then like licking naked and then like licking the 700 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,360 sledgehammer. It's like it is weird. 701 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,880 It is weird she did that because it is such an emotional, 702 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,000 heartfelt song. OK, but now that I'm thinking 703 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,320 about it, maybe she was naked as like a fuck you to Liam because 704 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,200 she's like you. You don't like this new 705 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,840 behavior. This is like an emotional song 706 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,040 about you. I'm going to embrace to rebel. 707 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,960 I'm going to embrace what you hate about me. 708 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,160 Maybe. Maybe that's kind of smart. 709 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,920 Especially the licking the sledgehammer. 710 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,000 Yeah, maybe that kind of makes sense. 711 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,000 Yeah, because it did feel out of place. 712 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,720 Yeah, so then in November, seems like Miley's maybe moving on to 713 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,120 she was spotted making out with Benji Madden while she's out 714 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,840 partying in LA. Oh, I did not know that. 715 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,880 They both continue to be linked to other people into the new 716 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,600 year. He is linked with Nina Dobrev. 717 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,120 I didn't know that either. Yeah, and she's linked with with 718 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,320 Kellen Lutz. I didn't. 719 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,080 Know that either? I know. 720 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,640 No, but later I didn't. But later Kellen denied it, he 721 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,680 said. I never dated Miley, but maybe 722 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,600 they hooked up. Maybe. 723 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,080 So random, though. Yeah. 724 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:22,400 So then in April, Miley gave an interview with Elle magazine, 725 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,520 and she spoke a little bit about their breakup. 726 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,720 She said when I went through a really intense breakup, you 727 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:30,880 know, I was engaged. And when I was with him or when 728 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,280 I was on Disney, the thing that gave me the most anxiety was not 729 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,160 knowing what to do with myself when Disney wasn't there to 730 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,360 carry me anymore. Or if I didn't have him. 731 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,600 I lay in bed at night by myself, and I'm totally OK. 732 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,880 And that's so much stronger than the person three years ago. 733 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,480 Who would have thought that they would have died if they didn't 734 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,840 have a a boyfriend? Well, that's good. 735 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,480 Yeah. That she feels like she won't 736 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,440 die if like, I know it's understandable to feel like you 737 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,480 would die without somebody or something, but you don't want to 738 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,760 feel that just about having a boyfriend, you know? 739 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,800 Yeah, but it's interesting because that tweet she put out 740 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,640 when she originally denied that they were together, she said I 741 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,720 would be so depressed if that was my reason to breathe. 742 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:21,840 Oh yeah. What the hell is going on? 743 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,080 Is she just like pretending to be this like super independent 744 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,200 crazy girl? Maybe it's kind of so. 745 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:33,360 I know. Then in June, an unreleased. 746 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,320 I mean, she is kind of often in a relationship. 747 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:41,040 She's not single that often. In June, an unreleased smiley 748 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,080 song called The Last Goodbye was leaked on the Internet and some 749 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,520 people think that the lyrics were about Liam. 750 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,160 They are. How has my best friend become 751 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,480 such a stranger? It seems like everything was 752 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,480 fine. We've already been through this 753 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,560 twice and I'm never coming home for a last goodbye. 754 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,280 So already it seems like they're pretty rocky. 755 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,160 They've broken up, gone back together multiple times. 756 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,920 Yeah. Around this time, Liam said that 757 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,400 spending more time with Jennifer Lawrence, who laughs all day and 758 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,040 is funny, helped him be more present following his foot with 759 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,520 Miley. Interesting. 760 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,560 Meanwhile, it seems like Miley is dating Patrick 761 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,160 Schwarzenegger. Oh yeah, I remember that. 762 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,280 But doesn't, I mean, I don't know. 763 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,480 We don't know her. But doesn't Miley laugh all day? 764 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,480 Seems like it. Yeah. 765 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,000 So in December, Chris Hemsworth, Liam's brother, was on the cover 766 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,600 of GQ. And he said, I've watched Liam 767 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,440 do things I did at his age, like being in relationships he 768 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,600 shouldn't be in or being reckless just to prove a point. 769 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,120 And I had no empathy. My mom had to remind me I was 770 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:49,920 the same way. I. 771 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,800 Had no empathy. Interesting. 772 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,800 Is he talking about Miley? I know. 773 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,600 So then it's 2015, and Liam is interviewed by Men's Fitness, 774 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,680 and he said about the breakup. You fall in love with who you 775 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,920 fall in love with. You can never choose. 776 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,760 I guess some people just come with a little more baggage. 777 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,440 I mean, look, we were together five years. 778 00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:15,840 So I don't think those feelings will ever change. 779 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,680 And that's good because that proves to me that it was real. 780 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,080 It wasn't just a fling. Wow, that's actually really 781 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,560 sweet. I know he's really opening up. 782 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,080 Then a month later, an animal shelter tweeted out a photo of 783 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,120 Liam holding a new dog and they wrote Thanks Miley Cyrus for 784 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,720 loving dogs as much as we do. He helped find this gigantic 6 785 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:41,600 month old puppy a new home. Liam Hemsworth, you will, you 786 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,040 will give this deserving baby a great life. 787 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:46,760 What? Yeah, so my. 788 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,040 Animal shelter leaked to the world that they're back 789 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,640 together. Yes. 790 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:56,520 What? Oh my gosh. 791 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,080 And just aside now, it also seems like maybe something more 792 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,480 had happened with Liam and Jennifer Lawrence while Miley 793 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,680 and him were on a break because she Jayla goes on Andy Cohen's 794 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,920 show Watch What Happens Live. And he asked her if they had 795 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,360 ever kissed off screen. And she said, Liam and I grew up 796 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,200 together. Liam was really hot. 797 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:23,760 What would you have done? I also don't understand saying 798 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,320 that we grew up together because aren't you guys like still kind 799 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,160 of filming The Hunger Games or like it just ended? 800 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,240 Has the last movie come out yet? I don't know. 801 00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:36,360 But it's like we're not like 10 years past it. 802 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,880 So you guys are still kind of in that same age group from when 803 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,680 you met I think. And they were, I mean, they were 804 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,800 young, but they were probably like 20. 805 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,880 I don't know how it's like grew up. 806 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,480 Together. Yeah, it's weird. 807 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,680 We grew up. Is it like you guys weren't in 808 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,600 Harry Potter? I know. 809 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,360 Oh my gosh. And it's funny. 810 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,200 We're still in the same decade from the movies, but it's 2016 811 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,720 January and photos come out of Miley and Liam in Australia 812 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:11,680 spending New Year's together at a music festival. 813 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,720 And then in March, in an interview with Entertainment 814 00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:19,720 Tonight, Dolly Parton, who is Miley's godmother, was asked 815 00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:21,640 about Liam and Miley and she said. 816 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,400 I was really happy to hear that they've gotten back together and 817 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,760 seems like they are. Soon afterwards they were 818 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,520 photographed getting lunch with Chris Hemsworth. 819 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,720 Wow, it seemed like it was so over. 820 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,000 I know for this, yeah. I mean, they were broken up for 821 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,840 like, I would say at least like a year and a half. 822 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,640 Wow. How do you even like, I guess 823 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,200 like, how do you get back together? 824 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,960 I don't know. I just don't get it. 825 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:55,400 I guess they just text or call and yeah wow, they must always 826 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,520 have like 1 foot still kind of near the door or the door not 827 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,320 fully closed. Wow. 828 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,040 So then, let's see. I know we, we have said this on 829 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,400 the podcast before, but it must be crazy. 830 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,400 Imagine being her friends. Oh I know it must be kind of I, 831 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,160 I feel a little bad for their friends 'cause you never know 832 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,200 what to say, what side to be on. Like, do we love Liam? 833 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,560 Do we hate him? You know? 834 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,840 I've been in the situation. It's like you kind of can't say 835 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,280 anything bad. If they get back together, 836 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,400 you're going. To come back around, yeah. 837 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:31,560 Yeah, but sometimes you need your friend to hate them in 838 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,320 order to be like, OK, yeah, I can't date someone who everybody 839 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,840 in my life hates. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 840 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,320 It's hard. So then Miley posted an 841 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,320 Instagram of Liam with his dog and she captioned it. 842 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,120 So much love in this pic. And a few hours later Liam 843 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,080 posted a photo of Miley. But I don't really know what the 844 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,200 caption was because it's now. Deleted. 845 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,040 I'm sad. But they're like back together 846 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,120 and they're open about it. It's. 847 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,080 Back on. It's interesting because this 848 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:10,040 reconciliation definitely coincides with a dissolution of 849 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,080 Miley's bangers persona. She's definitely having a 850 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,280 metamorphosis once again. Sources close to the couple are 851 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,960 saying that Miley is a changed person and that she is partying 852 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,880 less, doing yoga and living a healthier lifestyle. 853 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,760 So it's kind of putting all the blame on her for the breakup. 854 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,880 It definitely also aligns with her album that's going to be 855 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,040 coming out soon, her Younger Now album, where she's kind of like 856 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,680 rejecting who she was during bangers and saying like, I don't 857 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,240 have to be that person anymore. And I feel like that's kind of 858 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,720 one of Miley's downfalls. Like she doesn't commit to a 859 00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:50,360 personality very long. I guess how humans are like 860 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,320 we're not always one person, but like as a celebrity, it's I 861 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,040 think sometimes hard for her. She has obviously 862 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,080 characteristics that stay with her over time like being this 863 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,160 like outspoken person, but she definitely is constantly having 864 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,480 a rebrand. I hate what you mean, it doesn't 865 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,280 feel like she's really building off of the last project. 866 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,480 It's like every time she's scrapping it and saying what I 867 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,720 was doing last time wasn't me like now this. 868 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,040 Is me. Yeah, exactly. 869 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,760 She's I feel like she's getting maybe less like that now. 870 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,120 Yeah, but she seems like she's struggled with that for a while, 871 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,280 which makes sense if you grew up on Disney Channel and you've 872 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,960 only known celebrity. Yeah. 873 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,840 Kind of be confusing like who am I? 874 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,120 Totally. A source tells People magazine 875 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,960 that Miley is doing everything to please and make Liam happy, 876 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,920 and that before, Liam couldn't handle when Miley acted nutty. 877 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:51,160 See, I hate that that that would make me feel crazy. 878 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,280 That does upset me. And I feel like whenever a guy 879 00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:00,160 calls a woman crazy, it becomes, like, you turn crazy because, 880 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,880 like, if someone's calling you crazy, it, like, turns you into 881 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,440 that, you know? Yeah. 882 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,720 But another source says that Miley's problem was that she 883 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:09,880 thought Liam was boring when he complained. 884 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,480 Another source says Miley never got over Liam, despite them 885 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,040 constantly fighting. Before the split, Miley always 886 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,720 said Liam is the love of her life. 887 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,600 There were so many things that she loved about their 888 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,000 relationship. They had a lot of fun and Liam 889 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,200 was mostly very supportive of Miley it seemed. 890 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,080 She was always hoping and dreaming that they one day could 891 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,840 get back together. Sweet. 892 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,440 And she also went on Ellen and she showed off her engagement 893 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,320 ring and she confirmed that they are, in fact still engaged. 894 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,200 Wow. Yeah, I was curious. 895 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,520 We've talked about this too before, Like when? 896 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:50,200 Well, I mean, this was more extreme. 897 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,840 It was Paul Simon and Carrie Fisher. 898 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,480 But how they were like, married and then go back together. 899 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,960 This is not as dramatic as that. But I was wondering, are they 900 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,200 just boyfriend, girlfriend or fiance's again, you know? 901 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,320 Yeah, it would be hard to have like a demotion. 902 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,080 Yeah, they were so young when they were engaged. 903 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,920 That like they were. I don't think it would be weird 904 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,760 to be like, OK, let's kind of start over. 905 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,440 Yeah, like at the the end of Mamma Mia spoiler Oh. 906 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,880 I've not seen it. Oh, you haven't? 907 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,120 No. Oh, what the fuck? 908 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,520 You've never seen Mamma Mia? No, I haven't. 909 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,720 What that's? Crazy. 910 00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:29,520 Are you sure? I could have sworn we went in 911 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,640 theaters together. We did watch it together, but I 912 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,520 fell asleep. Oh my gosh. 913 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,920 Through no faults of my own, I was tired. 914 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,800 Whose fault is it? Just, I don't know Father Time. 915 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,880 You always fall asleep during movies my. 916 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,040 Philosophy is if you start feeling like you're about to 917 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,000 fall asleep during a movie and you cannot keep your eyes open, 918 00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:56,720 you, there's nothing you can do. You have to give into it. 919 00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:59,520 Otherwise you just like will fall asleep anyway. 920 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,160 I don't. Know if that's true? 921 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,800 Well, yeah, at that. Sorry to spoil but at the end of 922 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,200 the movie they stay together but they decide not to get married, 923 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,400 which always kind of upset me because the whole movie is 924 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,840 preparing for the wedding. I'm like what the hell? 925 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,360 Yeah. No when? 926 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,400 Like what the heck. I get it, but it's a little 927 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,480 disappointing. Anyway, anyway, so Miley throws 928 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,120 Liam a 27th birthday party and she posts on Instagram. 929 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,920 Happiest birthday ever. It's my favorite being ever ever 930 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,120 ever. You have been my best friend 931 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,160 since the day we met. I am beyond lucky to share so 932 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,600 many animals with you. I love you and. 933 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,400 That's so cute. I know it is. 934 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,920 I know I don't know the whole story yet. 935 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,080 I'm like worried there's going to be some shoe that drops that 936 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,880 tells me that Miley was cheating the whole time or something. 937 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,560 But she I think she really loved him. 938 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,320 OK, Because I was going to say that. 939 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,520 I just think she's so loving. So there's so much emotion in 940 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,840 her. She's so expressive. 941 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,800 I just think you're so lucky to be loved by Miley Cyrus if you 942 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,280 are. Like she just seems like she's 943 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,800 bursting with joy for the person she loves, so it's just so cute. 944 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,800 Totally. I think she wears her heart on 945 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,680 her sleeve and not everyone's like that. 946 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,720 He was really lucky, I think. I definitely think she gave it 947 00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:27,240 more than he did. He wasn't willing to meet her 948 00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:28,840 halfway. I mean, I do think she was 949 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,280 willing to change for him a little bit, but I'm sure there 950 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,800 was some resentment because maybe he wasn't. 951 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,440 But so on this new Younger Now album, she has a song, Malibu. 952 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,480 Oh yes. That song is about Liam and how 953 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,360 she never expected that they would be back together. 954 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,800 And it just like paints them as being so in love and like so 955 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,840 happy and peaceful. And it like, it is this euphoric 956 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,080 feeling like if you do get back together with someone that you 957 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,240 were heartbroken about, It's like, I can't believe like it 958 00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:02,440 worked out. She's frolicking and skipping 959 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,760 and she's playing with balloons, which again, it's like very 960 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,600 different from twerking. It's so much more innocent vibes 961 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,520 and makes me wonder like how much of that is like Liam's 962 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,520 influence? It could be a lot. 963 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:20,120 I mean, I do think people are very influenced by their 964 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,600 relationship and who they're with. 965 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,680 It's just inevitable, you know? Yeah, totally. 966 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,240 I mean, I mean, some of it's good. 967 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,200 Yeah. And they're very public. 968 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,200 And Liam is also very affectionate. 969 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,480 On Instagram. He posts a lot of pictures of 970 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,560 Miley, and he often calls her his little Angel. 971 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,480 He also posts a lot of cute, silly videos of him pranking 972 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,000 her. And yeah, they're like, they 973 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,240 just seem like very solid at this point. 974 00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:50,040 Like they seem very in love. I feel like it almost seems 975 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,760 like, OK, they, they were together, they broke up and now 976 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,560 they're together and now it's like we as a society, that's 977 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,320 Miley and Liam, like they just are two peas in a pod and we 978 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,040 accept. Them, they seem solid. 979 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,320 They can't be kept apart. Yeah, they made it. 980 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,600 They're together. All felt right in the world. 981 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,440 Yeah, Miley was asked by the son when they be getting married and 982 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,320 she said I'm just riding this out. 983 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,680 I don't envision marriage. I'm 24. 984 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,960 I hope I get what? She's like 24. 985 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,800 I know, I know, she says. I have too much living to do. 986 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,320 Yeah. She's so young, crazy. 987 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,960 And then she went on Howard Stern and she admitted that 988 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,280 she's like, it's nervous whenever Liam works with other 989 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,040 actresses, which I think is refreshing to admit. 990 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,360 Like she's so honest, so refreshing. 991 00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:43,680 I'm sure everybody else feels that way too. 992 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,600 Yeah, wow. Thank you, Miley. 993 00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:49,800 I know. She says I keep little spies so 994 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,880 I don't have to be there. Wow. 995 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,640 I know I love it. OK, because sometimes there's 996 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,760 been people on this podcast that we've talked about that make me 997 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,640 feel like we're different species or something because 998 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:08,000 they don't have jealousy and I'm just like how I don't understand 999 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,960 how they. Do this. 1000 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,920 They're lying. Cool. 1001 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:20,240 So then it's 2018 and based on their public appearances, things 1002 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:23,720 seem good. But sadly their Malibu home 1003 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,400 burnt down in a massive wildfire at this time. 1004 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,280 They lost many personal items in the fire, pretty much everything 1005 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,440 they had in that house. And it makes me sad because 1006 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,440 Miley had just been on Jimmy Kimmel a few weeks before and 1007 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,280 she was talking a lot about how sentimental she was and like how 1008 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,640 she holds on to things and how that's one of their 1009 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,840 disagreements and their relationship. 1010 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,960 And and Jimmy Kimmel was like, what kind of stuff do you hoard? 1011 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,600 And she was like, well, it's not hoarding. 1012 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,840 It's like collecting. And she said she still hold on 1013 00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:02,160 to the pack of peanuts that were served on the plane when she 1014 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,040 flew from Tennessee to California, when she landed the 1015 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,160 role of Hannah Montana. And she was like that, that pack 1016 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,360 of peanuts, like, represented this huge change in my life. 1017 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,800 Like, she seems very sentimental. 1018 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,800 And like you said, yeah, like, when she loves something, she 1019 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,600 loves it. So it's just so sad to think 1020 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,920 about all those things being gone. 1021 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,640 That's one of my biggest fears. I know it's kind of material 1022 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:34,080 materialistic, but my gosh, I feel so bad. 1023 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,200 And then she talked about the fire on Howard Stern and that is 1024 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,080 the next clip. Oh, OK, let me see. 1025 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:45,720 Did you just give a half $1,000,000 to the fire? 1026 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,720 There were fires in Malibu, your house. 1027 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,560 Your house is destroyed, right? Yeah, and you have, like a 1028 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,920 menagerie of animals. You got, what, seven dogs? 1029 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,840 Yeah. How many horses I have now? 1030 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:59,880 Two horses that are big size and then I have too many. 1031 00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:02,600 Yeah, two pigs. Too many horses Two big horses 1032 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,320 3. Cats. 1033 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,760 Yeah, So what happens when a fire is going down? 1034 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,520 So actually like Liam, I've never loved him more for this. 1035 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,840 This is your boyfriend. Yes. 1036 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,600 He's not say yeah, kind of yeah. Ish. 1037 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,520 Which part? My partner, I call him my 1038 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,800 survival partner now. And he thinks it's not romantic, 1039 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,280 but I learned that it is. That is why you pair up with 1040 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,360 someone is for survival. And he, it was so incredible. 1041 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,120 He got all the animals out in his truck. 1042 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,240 He put two pigs in crates, which I told you is so hard. 1043 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,640 Yes. I said, how did you get them 1044 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,040 out? And he said the only thing I 1045 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,760 could do was get a really powerful hose and spray them in 1046 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,680 the ass. So he just chased the pigs into 1047 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,920 it, which was genius. And actually, I was kind of glad 1048 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,800 that I wasn't there because I think the thing that got a lot 1049 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,200 of people in trouble was in California, we have fires all 1050 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,480 the time. And it's it's a little cry wolf 1051 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,640 sometimes because you don't know when it's actually going to get 1052 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,040 to you. And I think that you think 1053 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,240 there's no way this could actually happen to me. 1054 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,720 Neil Young lost his house, right? 1055 00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:00,320 Yeah. And I was thinking about that 1056 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,000 too, because I was thinking that just that my age and the amount 1057 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,760 of songs that I've written, and that was the hardest thing for 1058 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:11,000 me to for me to lose was every song, including Malibu, I lost 1059 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,240 because I always write it on paper. 1060 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,640 Oh, you mean in the Malibu house? 1061 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:19,040 Was my song writing book that I wrote the lyrics in in the car 1062 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,400 so that's gone and so I was thinking about these artists and 1063 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,320 even. Why didn't you man save the book 1064 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,640 for Christ's sake if he's busy with the. 1065 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,160 Pig, he grabbed his camera. But the one thing good that was 1066 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,120 about the guy said, what do you grab? 1067 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,400 He's like my laptop and my camera. 1068 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,920 But the good thing about that was is I actually had a lot of 1069 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,600 physical pictures that obviously you lose. 1070 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,720 It's really hard and so I'm glad he grabbed the computer. 1071 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,080 So he came. So in a fire, he he saved the 1072 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,440 animals, which you got to do first. 1073 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,080 Yeah. Then he got his camera. 1074 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,880 Yeah. Then he got his computer. 1075 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,440 His. Computer yes and then he had to 1076 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,120 go deal with my cats are so stupid they He tried to get the 1077 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,160 cats out but he was kind of trying to lead them to the truck 1078 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,360 'cause he had the dogs and all these things and one of the cats 1079 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,000 started running away and. Put them in a. 1080 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,720 He made the he the cats have never really been outside. 1081 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,920 And I think he started opening the door, trying to get them in 1082 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,880 and out. And the one cat just ran away. 1083 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,760 And. And I'm so glad that he didn't 1084 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,840 just say OK, you don't know what you're running into And. 1085 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,600 And got them because I like this guy. 1086 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,000 Yeah, he's really. He's really, really. 1087 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:14,880 Decent guy. Yeah, I. 1088 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,760 Mean he got a lot of action for saving the animals Oh he did 1089 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,200 yeah, he got a lot of. I was going to say, when do you 1090 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:20,280 even have time to? Get them back. 1091 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,480 We had, we had to make sure he knew I was very, very oh. 1092 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:30,240 My gosh, yeah. First of all, it's so sad. 1093 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:35,920 I'm so traumatic. Yeah, Oh my God, that's my 1094 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:36,840 nightmare. Literally. 1095 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,520 Also just so scary like having to save all those animals when 1096 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,120 there's a fire approaching too like so. 1097 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,840 Scary. Yeah, saying like my cats like, 1098 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,240 yeah, having to like race at the house. 1099 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,320 There's like smoke. Approaching. 1100 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,520 That's crazy. It was funny how she she still 1101 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:54,800 brought some humor into it though. 1102 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,520 Being like, my cats are so stupid. 1103 00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:03,920 Yeah, Oh my gosh. Yeah, I love her you feel so bad 1104 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:04,480 for. Her. 1105 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,280 In a way, I feel like this traumatic experience, like 1106 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,200 really bonded them. Like when you go through 1107 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,760 something so intense like that with somebody else, it's like 1108 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:20,040 nobody else gets it like you. You lean on that other person to 1109 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,120 understand how you're feeling. I bet. 1110 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,880 That would be so sexy though, like someone saving your beloved 1111 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,120 animals. I know. 1112 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,520 I can't believe he was by himself. 1113 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,480 That's kind of scary, I know. Wow. 1114 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,960 That's like, heroic. So this led to Miley and Liam 1115 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,320 getting married. Wow. 1116 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,280 Very soon after that, in her Tennessee home, they got married 1117 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,560 in a very private, spur of the moment, low key ceremony. 1118 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:55,120 Miley wore a satin ivory made to order Vivian Westwood dress for 1119 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,680 $8600, which is a lot of money by my standards. 1120 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,200 But like, for a celebrity, it seems pretty like she bought it 1121 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,000 online. Like it wasn't, you know? 1122 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:05,680 Huge thought out. There. 1123 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,480 I mean, some celebrities wear wedding dresses that are like 1124 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,800 $30 million or something. Yeah, OK, maybe that's 1125 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,720 generation 30,000. I don't know. 1126 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:20,920 Anything like over 10,000 beyond my tax bracket. 1127 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,520 She was barefoot and Liam Ward does a black suit and white 1128 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,160 sneakers. So super cash this wedding. 1129 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,480 And she posted something on Instagram along the lines of 10 1130 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,920 years later, but I couldn't actually find the post that's 1131 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,240 based on my memory from the time because it was deleted. 1132 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:43,000 No. I know, so sad, but guys. 1133 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,440 What? This sucks. 1134 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,960 It's like one of those things that once they get married, 1135 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,720 there's a shift and things keep going in the opposite direction 1136 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:57,840 and you want them to 2019. Now, January, Chris Hemsworth 1137 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,440 goes on a radio show and he says that Miley and Liam are not yet 1138 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,400 officially married. But I think at some point they 1139 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,880 do get married. Wait, so like after the 1140 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,640 ceremony? Yeah, he said. 1141 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:08,480 They. Still weren't married? 1142 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,720 That's weird. Yeah, but some point they do get 1143 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,720 married, so I don't know when. So it's April and they are at 1144 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,240 The Avengers premiere and Miley and Liam posed on the red carpet 1145 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,680 and a paparazzi guy says to Miley. 1146 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:27,720 Miley give him a kiss and she pretends to lick him and he says 1147 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,560 this is based off the interpretation of people who 1148 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,640 read lips. He apparently says can you 1149 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,000 behave for once? Oh my God. 1150 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,600 And then she makes a face. Then they pose separately and 1151 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,320 then they pose together again. And it seems like he goes into 1152 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,360 like, tickle her stomach, but then she swats him away and she 1153 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:54,000 just poses by herself and she like, fluffs up her hair and 1154 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,400 she's like, look at me. And she's very independent. 1155 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,840 So people think that signals he's like oppressing her and 1156 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:08,200 like very loaded, yes. I mean, I feel like this kind of 1157 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,160 jump into conclusions, like people get annoyed with their 1158 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,240 partner and say stuff like that. I don't know if you from one 1159 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,520 comment you can say like he's oppressing and controlling her. 1160 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,120 But yeah, but that is not good when you start to say and 1161 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,440 people, I've done it too, but it's not good when you start to 1162 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,720 say things like you always do this, you never do that like 1163 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,280 saying can you behave yourself for once, that is. 1164 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,320 Very hurtful especially when she's just being playful and 1165 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,480 having fun like what she did. Like pretend to lick him like 1166 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,760 not a big deal. Like he needs to lighten up if 1167 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,160 he has a. Problem with that. 1168 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,960 So in May, Liam is on the cover of Australia GQ and he says that 1169 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,040 him and Miley eventually want kids but right now they can't 1170 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,800 because they have too many animals. 1171 01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:00,320 Meanwhile, they attend the Met Gala together and guys spoiler 1172 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,920 this is their last public appearance together. 1173 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,960 It's ending so quickly after they got married, we. 1174 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:10,040 Didn't know it at the time. But they're still together. 1175 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:14,360 In June, Liam posts a photo of Miley to promote her new EP She 1176 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,440 Is Coming, which is now venturing back into Miley's 1177 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,040 rebellious, a little bit more sexually explicit side. 1178 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,560 I know. So, you know, I don't know if 1179 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,720 she started to feel comfortable because she had the ring on her 1180 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,760 finger, which is like, yeah, you should feel comfortable if 1181 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:36,280 you're married. But it's definitely very 1182 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,000 different from this, like seemingly repressed side that 1183 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,360 she had on younger. Now, this album, I wasn't that 1184 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,880 successful. It didn't have many hits. 1185 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,320 She had that hit like mother's daughter. 1186 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,040 But I don't know. But Liam seems supportive at 1187 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,280 first. He took a picture of her and 1188 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,080 captioned it. Girls Got Talent. 1189 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,120 She might just make it. dot, dot, dot. 1190 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,880 Wow, Wow. To the awesome dude me for 1191 01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,440 taking such an incredible photo. Hashtag husband goals. 1192 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,640 OK. And then in July, a month later, 1193 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,640 Miley is interviewed by Elle. And she says, I think it's very 1194 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,920 confusing to people that I'm married, but my relationship is 1195 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,520 unique. And I don't know that I would 1196 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,800 ever publicly allow people in there because it's so complex 1197 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,640 and modern and knew that I don't think we're in a place where 1198 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,160 people get, she says wait. And knew that I don't think 1199 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:27,960 we're in a place where people get it. 1200 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,840 I mean, do you really think that I'm home in a fucking apron 1201 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,040 cooking dinner? I'm in a hetero relationship but 1202 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,840 I still am very sexually attracted to women. 1203 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,360 Oh. But so this is what's 1204 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,960 interesting because I interpret that as her saying that they're 1205 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,160 not monogamous, maybe because she's saying it's so complex and 1206 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:50,880 modern. Like otherwise, like what? 1207 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,880 What? Even if you are a bi or 1208 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:59,400 pansexual girl in a hetero relationship, If it's not, if 1209 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,600 it's monogamous, it's still pretty traditional, kind of. 1210 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,360 Yeah. Is this the first time she said 1211 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,520 no? I I have other thoughts but is 1212 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:14,520 this the first time she said that she wasn't straight or she 1213 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,400 been saying that for a while? I think she had said it 1214 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,160 previously, but this is the first time I feel like it's 1215 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:21,720 really getting a lot of attention. 1216 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,600 Yeah, I feel like saying that it's modern and, you know, I'm 1217 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,440 not just at home. Like it would make me think, oh, 1218 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,240 are you in an open marriage? Well, also it's the fact that 1219 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,280 she says people wouldn't get it. That's what's making they 1220 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,360 wouldn't be there in an open relationship. 1221 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:42,080 I know, but I, I think it's weird 'cause I don't think just 1222 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:46,080 being in an exclusive heterosexual marriage means 1223 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,400 you're like lame or boring. Like I don't know why she's 1224 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,280 implying that like. Obviously nobody thinks you're 1225 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,280 home with an apron. You're Miley Cyrus. 1226 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,960 I almost feel like she has. She has a very traditional view 1227 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,520 of marriage if she thinks that. That's what it is, but true. 1228 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,360 Interesting. Very quickly after that article 1229 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:09,720 came out, it's reported that Miley and Lamb have split her 1230 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,920 Rep. I know her Rep shares Liam and 1231 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:14,960 Miley have agreed to separate at this time. 1232 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,760 I still remember where I was. I was playing a board game in my 1233 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,040 basement. Oh really? 1234 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:25,000 And I was just aghast, Like I was so shocked. 1235 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,560 I don't remember where I was, but I was really upset because, 1236 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,040 like I said earlier, I thought it just seemed like they 1237 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,200 belonged together. They had kept getting back 1238 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,120 together and then they finally got married. 1239 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,600 It's been years. It's been 10 years more. 1240 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:46,800 So it's really sad, I know. Her Rep continues ever evolving, 1241 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,080 changing as partners and individuals. 1242 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,880 They have decided that it's what's best. 1243 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,680 While they both focus on themselves and careers, they 1244 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,200 still remain dedicated parents to all of their animals they 1245 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,800 share while lovingly taking this time apart. 1246 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,160 Please respect their process and privacy. 1247 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,400 Oh, that's a question I should have asked you guys. 1248 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,640 When you break up, do you think you should share custody of pets 1249 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,880 that you share together? I don't know. 1250 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,200 That's really tough. It's so tough. 1251 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,800 I think it's tough if you got the pets together at this. 1252 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,560 I think if it was kind of someone's pet 1st and then you 1253 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,160 live together, I feel like the original parent gets the pet. 1254 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,880 But I don't know. I don't know what you do. 1255 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,200 That's tough. What do you think? 1256 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,360 I think. Most of the time only one person 1257 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,080 ends up getting the pet, but I think that would be so 1258 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:43,680 heartbreaking to feel like you lost your partner and you lost 1259 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:44,920 her. Yeah. 1260 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,560 I must feel like the person who did the breaking up should be 1261 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,120 the one that sacrifices the animal. 1262 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,520 Yeah, I agree. Definitely should be the person 1263 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,520 who the pet is more attached to and the person who does more 1264 01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:01,880 work, but so sad I do. Think. 1265 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:06,080 If you're in a new relationship though, it would be so hard if 1266 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:10,440 your new partner was sharing custody of a dog together with 1267 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,480 an ex. Like I would get it but because. 1268 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,960 You'd have to see them and you might have to go to their house 1269 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,560 and I don't. Know yeah. 1270 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,479 And it's like the doors kind of open because they communicate 1271 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,040 all the time. Obviously people with kids do 1272 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,960 that, but it's not ideal. Like no. 1273 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,240 It's not ideal. I mean, I feel like it's 1274 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,840 different because I think the general understanding is that 1275 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:38,080 the pet will be OK, but like, it's it's, it's for the best 1276 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,359 interest of kids to see both their parents. 1277 01:08:40,359 --> 01:08:42,520 You know, it's just it's different. 1278 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,800 I know people say like their pets are their kids, but it's 1279 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,359 not the same. Yeah, I even said that my cat 1280 01:08:48,359 --> 01:08:50,080 was my son, but it's not the same. 1281 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,080 Yeah. That is tough though. 1282 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,880 I think a lot of people do stay together because they don't want 1283 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,520 to lose their their beloved pet. I mean, Lucy had a lot of pets. 1284 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,399 You can kind of divide them, you know, that's. 1285 01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:03,760 Hard. That's true, that's true. 1286 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,319 So Liam posted on Instagram a photo of a sunset with the 1287 01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:09,560 caption. Just a quick note to say that 1288 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,560 Miley and I have recently separated and I wish her nothing 1289 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,600 but health and happiness going forward. 1290 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,240 This is a private matter and I have not made, nor will I be 1291 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,520 making any comments to any journalists or media outlets. 1292 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,720 Any reported quotes attributed to me are false. 1293 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,479 OK. I feel like at the time I 1294 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,319 thought he was so heartbroken by this statement. 1295 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,200 I'm not commenting on this like, I just thought like it sounded 1296 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,240 bereaved. Yeah, interesting. 1297 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,800 It is a contrast. Like, I feel like Miley's kind 1298 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,920 of painted us a bad guy here at the time because she starts 1299 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,560 spamming her Instagram with vacation pictures of her in 1300 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:50,640 Italy with her new girlfriend already, Caitlyn Carter, who had 1301 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,640 been reported to have broken up with her husband at the time, 1302 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:58,040 Brody Jenner, a week earlier. And a week. 1303 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,640 Earlier, Brody Jenner and Caitlyn Carter are also like, 1304 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,680 living in Malibu. So I don't know, like, these two 1305 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,280 couples had known each other maybe. 1306 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,200 Wow, that's crazy. It appears like Milan and 1307 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,960 Caitlin both like, broke up with their husbands and, like, ran 1308 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,120 away together. It's been exciting. 1309 01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:17,600 I know. It's just crazy that they're 1310 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,800 like letting us in on this, Like they're very public. 1311 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,160 Yeah. So much so that I'm like, is 1312 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,720 this a publicity stunt? Are they trying to get their 1313 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,160 husband's attention? Like what is going on? 1314 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,800 Wow. But they're like posting a lot 1315 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,720 of pictures of them kissing. Like it's very, it didn't last 1316 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,280 very long though. They broke up in September, so 1317 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,720 very quick. Wait, when was this? 1318 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,760 August. OK, I hope that girl didn't 1319 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:49,280 leave her husband for Miley. I know I don't know. 1320 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,920 But so obviously, like because Miley had moved on so quickly, 1321 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,920 there's a lot of backlash. And like, I'll be real, like 1322 01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,240 when a man does that, there is a lot of backlash in people like 1323 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,720 our John Mulaney episode. Like people are like, this is 1324 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,600 really sad. So obviously people are going to 1325 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,040 assume maybe you cheated. I don't think it's like a sexist 1326 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,560 thing. I think whoever moves on 1327 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:15,520 quickly, people think, I don't know, it leaves a bad taste in 1328 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,040 people's mouth. Yeah, but of course we don't 1329 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,280 know the whole story. Miley knows that people are 1330 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,360 upset and she tweets in response. 1331 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,560 I swung on a Wrecking Ball naked. 1332 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,000 I got kicked off Hotel Transylvania for buying Liam a 1333 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,400 penis cake for his birthday and licking it. 1334 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,760 I which I never heard about that but I lost a massive Walmart 1335 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,600 deal at 17 for ripping a bong. I fucked up and cheated in 1336 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,760 relationships when I was young. It is no secret that I was into 1337 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,200 partying in my teens and early 20s. 1338 01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:52,000 I have not only smoked but advocated for weed. 1339 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,320 I've experimented with drugs. My biggest song to date is about 1340 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,080 dancing on Molly and snorting lions in the bathroom. 1341 01:11:58,600 --> 01:11:59,280 I can. Accept. 1342 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,760 Oh wait, I'll. Keep I know, worried that it's 1343 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,520 dancing with Miley. Yeah. 1344 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:05,560 Yeah, I know. She admitted it. 1345 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,720 She. Confirmed it's Molly. 1346 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:08,280 Oh my. God. 1347 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,800 She's a little liar. She's smart though. 1348 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,400 That is smart. Like Molly and Miley sound 1349 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,040 exactly the same. Yeah. 1350 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,520 But also, it's like, what if it was Miley? 1351 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,360 But like, now because it's cooler to say Molly, so she's 1352 01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:26,960 owning it anyway. She said I can accept that the 1353 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,000 life I've chosen means I must live completely open and 1354 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,440 transparent with my fans who I love in the public 100% of the 1355 01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:36,800 time. What I cannot accept is being 1356 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,800 told I'm lying to cover up a crime I haven't committed. 1357 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,880 I have nothing to hide. And then basically, like, denies 1358 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,000 that she cheated on Liam. OK. 1359 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:51,120 So then very quickly, Miley released a breakup song called 1360 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:57,280 Slide Away that kind of implies like maybe Liam partied too much 1361 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,960 and that was the reason for their breakup. 1362 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,360 The Alamart for the song are bottles of pills and alcohol 1363 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:07,240 sliding into the ocean, and a friend tells People magazine 1364 01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,000 everyone always thinks Miley is problematic and immature and a 1365 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,960 hardcore partier while he's this chill surfer dude, but that's 1366 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,160 actually not accurate. Liam parties with his friends, 1367 01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,560 and Miley thinks he should have grown out of that by now. 1368 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:24,840 Another friend says she's been supportive of him when things 1369 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,280 get dark, but it's tough. That's something that has 1370 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,400 weighed on Miley and their relationship. 1371 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,680 He can lash out at her and he hates the attention their ups 1372 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,240 and downs bring. Wow. 1373 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,320 And she performs a song at the VMA's. 1374 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,000 She's soaked in water. Feel like it's like trying to 1375 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,880 it's like a darker spin on Malibu because it's kind of 1376 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,120 about the sea. And she says, I want my house in 1377 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,480 the hills, Don't want the whiskey and pills. 1378 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,800 I don't give up easily, but I don't think. 1379 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:56,680 But I don't think I'm down. Not what we thought, maybe. 1380 01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,200 Yeah, she's totally flipping the narrative. 1381 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,360 She also said move on. We're not 17. 1382 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,640 I'm not who I used to be. You say that everything changed. 1383 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,040 You're right. We're grown now. 1384 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,080 Interesting. So sad. 1385 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,360 It's sad. What the heck? 1386 01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:16,400 At this point, it's like we're grieving so. 1387 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,400 But yeah, her and Caitlin Carter didn't last. 1388 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:23,160 And then very quickly Miley is publicly dating Cody Simpson and 1389 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,960 what again, like very do you remember this like Cody Simpson 1390 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,360 were super public and like very heavy on the PDAI don't. 1391 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:34,560 Know why I'm I don't even know if this happened but in my mind 1392 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,320 I imagine them like using tongue, like making out. 1393 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,840 I feel like they did like it was, it was tough, not going to 1394 01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:47,840 lie, because it seemed like like we, we thought you and Liam were 1395 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:51,640 end game, you know, parasocial relationships and who's like 1396 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,360 guy, I know Cody Simpson, like what? 1397 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,560 Wait, he's Australian? Is he Australian? 1398 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,520 I think he is. Oh, that's odd. 1399 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:01,480 Let. Me see. 1400 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,560 Yep, Australian. Wow, that was. 1401 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,560 Wild. He was in all the teen magazines 1402 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,960 like Bop Magazine, Tiger Beat and stuff, but I never really 1403 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,280 knew why they were trying to make Cody Simpson happen and. 1404 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,560 Yeah. It just didn't. 1405 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,360 At least not in America. Maybe in Australia he was 1406 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,000 famous, but. He's like a textbook like 1407 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,240 rebound replacement because he kind of has like a similar body 1408 01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:33,160 to Liam kind of surfery in a way. 1409 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,160 But like, at this point, he was like kind of rebranding too. 1410 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:41,640 He's very blonde though, yeah. Whereas Liam is dark hair. 1411 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,720 Yeah, yeah. Who even is Cody since? 1412 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,200 But I know she she was acting like she's in love with this 1413 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,000 guy, just like I don't know where. 1414 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,200 She was like, and this is when she said I think I always 1415 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,600 thought I had to be a lesbian because like I need a good Dick, 1416 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,600 but I found I found good Dick which is like. 1417 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,320 My lady, didn't she say that doing a lie? 1418 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,880 Instagram live or something? Maybe, Yeah. 1419 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,360 Oh, that was bad. Is that the exact? 1420 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:10,360 Quote. I don't. 1421 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,480 I don't know if that was. Let me look at that maybe. 1422 01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:17,200 But see her saying that kind of reiterates what I was saying 1423 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,160 that it almost seems like she feels self-conscious. 1424 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,960 I don't know why. I mean, I think it's great that 1425 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,320 she wants to be visibly queer and that she's done a lot of 1426 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:31,480 advocacy for gay rights she has. But like, she feels, she seems 1427 01:16:31,480 --> 01:16:35,720 like, self-conscious about the fact that she deep down, like, 1428 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,520 loves these men. You know what I mean? 1429 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,160 It's like the way she said like, oh, our marriage isn't 1430 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,080 conventional, and then now saying like, oh, I thought I had 1431 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:44,640 to be. Yeah. 1432 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:49,040 She's definitely self-conscious about her image, she said. 1433 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,640 Guys, I was being a little too, like, hardcore feminist vibes 1434 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,600 and just, like, I don't know, not allowing anyone in. 1435 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,440 But now I am. There are good men out there, 1436 01:16:58,440 --> 01:16:59,520 guys. Don't give up. 1437 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,360 You don't have to be gay. There are good people. 1438 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,120 There are good people with Dicks out there. 1439 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,960 You just got to find them. You got to find a Dick that's 1440 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,680 not a Dick. You know what I mean? 1441 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,800 Oh my goodness. She says. 1442 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,560 I always thought I had to be gay because I just thought all guys 1443 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:21,840 are evil, but that's not true. There are good people out there 1444 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:26,240 that just happen to have Dicks. I've only ever met one and he's 1445 01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:30,320 on this live. Oh my God, Cody Simpson. 1446 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:39,040 This D is fire. Is he really the only good man 1447 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:39,920 you've ever met? I. 1448 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:46,640 Know what about your husband that is kind of problematic 1449 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,600 because it does make it sound like guys like you just need to 1450 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,680 find a good Dick. Yeah, it's like implying that 1451 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,240 like lesbians are only with other women because they've 1452 01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:02,120 never found the right man. Miley, that was. 1453 01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,200 Bad. This is why people celebrities 1454 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,960 should not do Instagram lives. It reminds me so much of Vanessa 1455 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,200 Hudgens. Yes, people are going to die, 1456 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:15,520 but inevitable. Maybe I shouldn't be saying. 1457 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,680 This, I almost thought this was worse when Miley said for some 1458 01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:25,040 reason like, yeah, because. I mean, nobody really knew what 1459 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,760 was going on at the start of COVID, that everybody was 1460 01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,120 flailing. And it's kind of understandable. 1461 01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,960 Yeah. But this is just like a 1462 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:38,760 overarching, yeah. And then we kind of, she was 1463 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,760 like, I was in my hardcore feminist era. 1464 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,880 It's like, oh God, it's like it makes it seem. 1465 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,480 It makes it seem like it was a little performative before, 1466 01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:51,560 which is like a stereotype sometimes too so. 1467 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:52,720 Yeah, I know. That's true. 1468 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,760 Miley, Miley. I think that's the thing, I love 1469 01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,440 Miley and I love, I love like all the things that make her 1470 01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:01,920 unique. But I think sometimes those can 1471 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:06,800 also be her like Achilles heel because she can be like a little 1472 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,480 uneducated about things or like a little impulsive and not 1473 01:19:09,480 --> 01:19:12,040 really think things through. And I think that can be her 1474 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,120 downside. It's so we, I mean, people are 1475 01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,240 always full of contradictions. Everybody is, I think. 1476 01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,240 But it's interesting how she seemed so much like someone who 1477 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,360 doesn't give an F, like don't doing her own thing. 1478 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,640 She's crazy. But she does ultimately seem to 1479 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,440 care so much about her image and what people think. 1480 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,200 And she's always changing her mind. 1481 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,360 And you know, it's interesting. She's a complicated character. 1482 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:40,680 His sister-in-law, Liam's sister-in-law Elsa Tadaki, who 1483 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:44,000 is married to Chris Hemsworth, told reporters at an event in 1484 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,360 Madrid. My brother-in-law, well, after a 1485 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,760 relationship where he dedicated 10 years, he's discouraged, but 1486 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,200 he's taking it well. He's a strong guy and he 1487 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,920 deserves the best. I think he deserves much more. 1488 01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:03,040 OK, in laws are coming forward. I know they're, you know, and so 1489 01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:06,200 Miley and Liam settled their divorce, so obviously they must 1490 01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,760 have really been married. No. 1491 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:14,720 And then she puts out in 2020 her album Plastic Hearts, and 1492 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,960 there's a song seemingly about Liam called What the Fuck Do I 1493 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,840 Know? And the lyrics are am I wrong 1494 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,680 that I moved on and and I don't even miss you, thought that it'd 1495 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,840 be you until I die, but I let go. 1496 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,360 What the fuck do I know? Wow, don't even miss you. 1497 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:35,040 I know in 2020 this and now Miley and Cody Simpson are 1498 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,320 broken up so maybe she didn't really find good Dick. 1499 01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,640 After all, it got boring after a while. 1500 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:46,200 Yeah, yeah. But it's 2021 and in May Miley 1501 01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,800 makes a post to celebrate the four year anniversary of Malibu. 1502 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,320 And she wrote a song about a place and a person that at the 1503 01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,720 time I loved very much. And then? 1504 01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,680 At the time. At the time. 1505 01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,320 Yeah. In June, she went on Joe Rogan 1506 01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:06,720 and she talked about the breakup and the backlash and she said, I 1507 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,440 recently just went through a very public divorce that fucking 1508 01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:12,800 sucked or really sucked about. It wasn't the fact that me and 1509 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,360 someone that I loved realize that we don't love each other 1510 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,880 the way that we used to anymore. That's OK. 1511 01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,920 I can accept that. I can't accept the villainizing 1512 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,960 and the just all the stories. It's just amazing to me that the 1513 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,280 public kind of thinks that there's no gap of time that they 1514 01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:32,760 didn't see the see that could possibly be what led to this. 1515 01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:36,440 Like, it's not one day you were happy and then on the red 1516 01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:38,720 carpet, and then the next day you were making out with your 1517 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,560 friend in Italy. What the fuck? 1518 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,040 There was a lot of time in between that you didn't see. 1519 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,720 Yeah, I believe that. I believe it. 1520 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,320 But I will say they got married in December. 1521 01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,520 We broke up like in August. It was less than a year. 1522 01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,960 I feel like time is relative at this point. 1523 01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,880 Like we did see them happily together. 1524 01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:01,360 It seemed like up until then we thought, you know. 1525 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:05,400 I know, unless we're supposed to think that they when they got 1526 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,560 married, we're like in a terrible place or something, but 1527 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,840 I doubt it. It's just not the speed that 1528 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,000 usual relationships. Yeah, Yeah. 1529 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,360 She also compared their relationship to an addiction. 1530 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,960 She said, actually, the one I called the love of mine who I 1531 01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,240 was with, and we got divorced. It was almost like a pacifier. 1532 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,840 It was that thing that I just needed, not because we were in 1533 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,680 love anymore, but because of the comfort and because my brain 1534 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,120 said, oh, this feels better. This is comforting. 1535 01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:38,360 But actually knowing that I was giving into an addiction made me 1536 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,440 feel worse. I had that hangover. 1537 01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:42,760 It felt like a relapse every time I got back. 1538 01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:47,800 That's so sad, but that is mature for her to realize. 1539 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,920 I guess so, but like dating those other people right after 1540 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,880 to me seems like the same exact. I mean, what's the difference? 1541 01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,120 Yeah, I know that's. So true. 1542 01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,480 I'm not saying you have to be alone, but I just, if you're 1543 01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:03,080 like, trying to break an addiction from one thing to like 1544 01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,160 just. Jump into the, I don't know, I, 1545 01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:09,320 I kind of tend to agree with you because they it was like so 1546 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,520 passionate too and like so all over the place. 1547 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,880 She was like, oh, taking it slow with code. 1548 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:18,600 No, no, she said, men in my life have told me I'm a cold fucking 1549 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,480 bitch because I leave when things are done. 1550 01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:23,160 I'm really into a lot of freaky things, but I don't fuck dead 1551 01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:24,720 guys. When it's over, it's over and 1552 01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:30,640 you're dead to me and I move on, which is nice, but I again, I 1553 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,560 love Miley, but Miley, that's not true. 1554 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,360 Like when it's over, it's not over because you've had two 1555 01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,040 relationships now that we've covered that have been so 1556 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:43,120 incredibly off and on. It's like she wants it to be 1557 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:46,640 true. I know, but it's not. 1558 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,560 Yeah, maybe she just has a different definition of over, 1559 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,120 but yeah. I mean, I wouldn't even say that 1560 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,440 about I'm not that kind of person. 1561 01:23:54,440 --> 01:23:56,600 I would not say like when it's over, it's over. 1562 01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:00,080 Like, no, I definitely still hold on and have feelings for 1563 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,600 forever. So it's like she feels like 1564 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,920 pressured to be this super independent woman. 1565 01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,720 It's kind of sad, I know. I I agree. 1566 01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,200 I feel like she's like she's ashamed to admit to this 1567 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,200 vulnerability of feeling the need to be with someone. 1568 01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,960 Like she only says stuff like this when it's like in the past, 1569 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,280 like I felt like I needed a boyfriend at the time. 1570 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,400 I needed this, but now I don't. But it's like, you said that but 1571 01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,960 then like gone back together with him. 1572 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,640 So I don't know. In 20/22 she was performing at 1573 01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:36,240 Lollapalooza in Brazil and a fan got proposed to in the crowd and 1574 01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:40,000 she said yes forever bitch. Yes. 1575 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,520 Congratulations honey, I hope your marriage goes better than 1576 01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,240 mine. Mine was a fucking disaster. 1577 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:53,080 Oh no. Oh, and we're almost. 1578 01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,080 We're almost a present day in 2023. 1579 01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:01,480 Miley dropped her single flowers on Liam's birthday. 1580 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,800 I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't know it either. 1581 01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,760 That's crazy. This is, like, Miley's biggest 1582 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,520 hit in a while. Like, she hadn't, like, 1583 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:16,600 dominated the charts before the song in a hot minute. 1584 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,360 And this is the song that helped her win her first Grammy. 1585 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,320 And immediately people assumed that it was a dig at Liam. 1586 01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,040 Obviously, it was released on his birthday. 1587 01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,400 And the story, like on social media and on TikTok that I 1588 01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:34,240 remember seeing was that Bruno Liam had dedicated a Bruno Mars 1589 01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:38,920 song when I Was Your Man to Miley and that now she's like, 1590 01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,680 flipping this on him. But I don't know how people know 1591 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,200 that. I couldn't find it anywhere. 1592 01:25:44,440 --> 01:25:46,480 I will say I feel like Bruno Mars should have gotten 1593 01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:50,440 songwriting credits if that was the case because it's a catchy 1594 01:25:50,440 --> 01:25:52,400 song but it's not super original. 1595 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:57,400 Because the Bruno Mars lyrics are like I wish I I should have 1596 01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,160 bought you flowers. Yeah, she says. 1597 01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:03,920 I can buy my own flowers. I should have hold your hand. 1598 01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:09,960 I can hold my own hand. I should have taken you dancing 1599 01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:15,080 like I can take myself dancing. It's like, just like taking what 1600 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,880 he said and being like, I can, I can love myself. 1601 01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,600 I don't think though. I don't think that you can. 1602 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,800 I don't think you have a case there though. 1603 01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,880 I think it's only like when melodies are the same. 1604 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,960 I don't think if lyrics are like similar. 1605 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,440 That's true. They can do anything about that. 1606 01:26:30,440 --> 01:26:34,880 But yeah, that is it sounds it must be a play on Bruno Mars. 1607 01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:39,680 So after the music video came out, there was this very common 1608 01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:44,480 narrative on social media, mostly TikTok, that it was a 1609 01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:47,440 reaction to Liam allegedly cheating on Miley. 1610 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,280 The day it came out, a pop culture account on Twitter 1611 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:55,000 called Pop Tings tweeted. The house where the music video 1612 01:26:55,000 --> 01:27:00,320 for Miley's Flowers was recorded was previously used by Liam 1613 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,920 Hemsworth to cheat on Miley with more than 14 women while they 1614 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:05,160 were married. What? 1615 01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:10,680 And this week up 4.9 million views, 45,000 likes and 10,000 1616 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:15,280 shares to date. But there's no other evidence of 1617 01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,400 this and I I don't want to this pop culture. 1618 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,400 Account. Yeah, How would they know that? 1619 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,680 I have no idea. Like it is a pretty huge claim 1620 01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:28,440 and this became very mainstream. Like I remember seeing a lot of 1621 01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:31,200 tik toks. Miley is changing the narrative 1622 01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,000 now. Liam was a cheater this whole 1623 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,360 time. And maybe that's true. 1624 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,960 Like the January June stuff was SUS before they got married. 1625 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,720 But people are really taking it as gospel and. 1626 01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,560 That could be completely made-up. 1627 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,560 I kind of think it is also their house burnt down. 1628 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,160 Yeah, true. They're acting like it was in 1629 01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:51,840 the house they lived in together. 1630 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:56,240 And so adding to that, Miley in the music video is wearing this 1631 01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,600 shiny gold dress. And people are comparing that to 1632 01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,400 the dress that Jennifer Lawrence wore at The Hunger Games 1633 01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,200 premiere. So they think that Miley is 1634 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,680 taking a dig at Jennifer Lawrence like that. 1635 01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:14,360 He cheated on her with Jay Law. But Jay Law was asked about this 1636 01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,160 on Andy Cohen, and she goes, it's not true. 1637 01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,480 A total rumor. And I believe her because we 1638 01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:23,120 know that they hooked up. But Miley and Liam, like, I feel 1639 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,720 like people have amnesia. The fact that they were broken 1640 01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:29,320 up for a lot of those ten years. They weren't just like to gather 1641 01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,600 the whole time. As we just said. 1642 01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,720 People kind of lack that though. They're like, oh, like they were 1643 01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:38,920 together for It's like they were broken up for a good while. 1644 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,280 During that time. It was not a consecutive 10 1645 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,800 years. Anytime you see something on the 1646 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:45,920 Internet, you really have to Fact Check it right away. 1647 01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,120 Like, you can't just believe, especially if it's just like a 1648 01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,600 picture that has text on it. Like, don't believe that. 1649 01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,320 It's probably. Yeah, I'm just looking it up 1650 01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,360 right now. Like in the video, she's wearing 1651 01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,840 this tight. It's actually like a shirt and 1652 01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:03,960 pants with, like, a hood. It's gold. 1653 01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:10,000 And yeah, Jennifer Lawrence wore a tight gold dress, but it's not 1654 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,600 exactly the same. Yeah. 1655 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,160 Oh yeah, those are pants. I thought it was like all 1656 01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,800 connected. Kind of a stretch. 1657 01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,920 I mean, is that gold Jennifer Lawrence dress even like that? 1658 01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,920 Iconic. I'm surprised people noticed. 1659 01:29:26,440 --> 01:29:29,400 I don't think so. It's like one premiere and like 1660 01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,960 does Jennifer Lawrence own the color gold like also? 1661 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:38,600 But I had seen other theories that it was a reference to Bruno 1662 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,400 Mars because he has the song 24 karat gold. 1663 01:29:41,480 --> 01:29:44,200 So maybe that's why she wore gold in the music video. 1664 01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:48,560 Maybe. I do find it that whole thing a 1665 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,800 little annoying because I just don't think that that is a 1666 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:55,960 verifiable claim. And now it's become mainstream 1667 01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,920 and I feel like it's a lot of like, Miley fans that are 1668 01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:02,240 pushing that narrative for the sake of the song. 1669 01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,920 I get a little annoyed when people look for too much 1670 01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:10,320 symbolism and things too, Like I don't know, I feel like it might 1671 01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:14,520 be just a coincidence or like just 'cause it looks cool. 1672 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:18,920 I don't know if maybe there was a reason, but maybe it just 1673 01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,040 looked good. Yeah, And at this point, too, 1674 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,200 Miley, this is like a years after. 1675 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,800 Like this could be about a different relationship, too. 1676 01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:29,480 But also she's wearing like a oversized suit in it. 1677 01:30:29,480 --> 01:30:32,440 So people were like, that's Liam's suit that he wore when he 1678 01:30:32,440 --> 01:30:36,880 said can you just behave for once on the red carpet or 1679 01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,560 whatever? OK, at this point though, like 1680 01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,520 The Hunger Games premiere was so long ago. 1681 01:30:43,480 --> 01:30:46,560 I know. I feel like if I, I mean, maybe 1682 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,200 Miley really holds on to things, but I feel like I did too. 1683 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,000 But still, if I was coming out with an album right now and 1684 01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,480 coming up with the whole creative concept, the outfits, 1685 01:30:55,480 --> 01:30:59,640 the visuals, whatever, I don't think I would be like thinking 1686 01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:04,040 of influences and things from like eight years ago or like, 1687 01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,640 you know what I mean? Just it's possible. 1688 01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:10,080 But the 100 years, yeah, it was a long time ago. 1689 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,880 Yeah, it was literally like 10 years earlier. 1690 01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:15,480 Yeah. And like you said, it's just not 1691 01:31:15,480 --> 01:31:18,000 that iconic of it. Look, no, no offense to Jennifer 1692 01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,840 Lawrence, but like, I don't think she's necessarily 1693 01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:24,160 associated with that. Yeah, if it was like her big 1694 01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,120 dress that she wore to the Oscars when she tripped or 1695 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,280 something, like. Yeah, with the backwards 1696 01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:31,320 necklace. Yeah, or like, I even remember 1697 01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,880 she wore this, like, red dress to the Oscars when she was 1698 01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,000 nominated for Winter's Bone. I don't know why I remember that 1699 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:40,200 but. I remember that too. 1700 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:41,520 She looked great. Yeah. 1701 01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,480 But. Any celebrity, I feel like any 1702 01:31:45,480 --> 01:31:47,760 celebrity who's been around for a minute, like you could 1703 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:51,600 probably find them wearing a similar outfit if it's just like 1704 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,440 a solid color. But yeah, I mean, Miley didn't 1705 01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:59,400 refute it, but that is actually it. 1706 01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:03,760 That's Miley and Liam. Wow, I thought this was going to 1707 01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:05,080 be like 3. Hours. 1708 01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:08,720 I know, I'm actually surprised. I guess like really skipped the 1709 01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:10,720 back stories. That's true. 1710 01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:12,800 That's true. That was great though. 1711 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,560 Oh my gosh, I can't believe you did all that research. 1712 01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:20,000 Yeah, it was a lot of going back in time, but. 1713 01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,200 Thank you, Mel. I almost feel like the odds of 1714 01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,520 them getting back together are not zero percent. 1715 01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,760 Oh no, I think me neither get back together. 1716 01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,640 I honestly think they will. I could see it. 1717 01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:36,680 I could see it. This is like. 10% chance. 1718 01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:39,480 I don't think she was like, when it's over, it's over. 1719 01:32:39,480 --> 01:32:42,120 But like, if this song is really about Liam, it's not really 1720 01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,160 over. And if that's the case, yeah, 1721 01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,480 true. I would say 10 as well. 1722 01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,800 We we said this last time, but we still haven't had a couple 1723 01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:55,400 get back together. No, but I could see that for 1724 01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:56,720 them. I could see not. 1725 01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:00,960 Out of the question. It is sad, I know. 1726 01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:04,560 It reminds me of like Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, just a 1727 01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,880 couple that after everything they've been through, I just, I 1728 01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:09,680 wouldn't think that they would break up, you know? 1729 01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,720 But I guess nothing is sacred in Hollywood. 1730 01:33:13,440 --> 01:33:16,480 I know. I'm kind of interested in 1731 01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:19,200 hearing Cody Simpson. I know. 1732 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:20,720 Wait, maybe we could cover that that. 1733 01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:25,200 Could be a fun bonus episode. Yeah, I'm honestly, there's a 1734 01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:28,160 lot of material. Even though it was short, they 1735 01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:32,280 gave us a lot so. Let us know if you want that 1736 01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:36,640 guys. Next episode we are going away 1737 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:40,240 from Hollywood and we're going to Washington, DC. 1738 01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,840 We're talking about a couple that is associated with 1739 01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,880 politics, but they are not politicians. 1740 01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:58,800 OK, I think I know one person's kind of scandalous, scandalous 1741 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:00,960 figure. I can't wait. 1742 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:06,280 It's going to be fun and it's going to be on Patreon only So 1743 01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:10,440 if you are not subscribed to Patreon, what are you doing? 1744 01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:14,080 Subscribe and if you like the show, please give us a 5 star 1745 01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,440 review if you haven't yet. No pressure. 1746 01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:20,040 But you know, if you've been listening for a while and you've 1747 01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,720 never gotten around to it, you don't even have to write 1748 01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:26,520 anything. But it'd be nice anyway, I guess 1749 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,760 that's. Miley and Liam, Miley and Liam, 1750 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,520 thank you guys so much for listening and we'll get back 1751 01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:40,080 together next week. Is your heart peeled with pain? 1752 01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:49,640 Shall I come back again? Tell. 1753 01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:50,800 Me dear.