1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:08,039 Are you lonesome tonight? Do you miss me tonight? 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:16,880 Are you sorry we drifted apart? Does your? 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,000 Hi, guys. Hi, everyone. 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,600 Hey. Welcome back to Significant 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,680 Lovers. We are your host. 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,120 I'm Mel. I'm Kel and I'm Caitlin Kate. 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,800 You need one syllable. Syllable nickname. 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,400 I'm just kidding. No, but she's, she's Caitlin. 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,040 Does that make you uncomfortable, Kate? 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,760 No, it doesn't make me uncomfortable. 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,640 I just never really had a nickname, you know? 12 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:45,720 What? Are you talking about? 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,080 I like that. I like that. 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,360 You go by Caitlin. Yeah, like teachers in school 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,920 always ask me like, oh, is it Kate? 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,800 Is it Katie? Is it what? 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,440 And I'm like, no, it's just Caitlin. 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,640 Well, but that is not true though, because you did go by 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,680 Katie for many years. Did I win? 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,239 As a kid. Well, I don't think it it wasn't 21 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:05,800 official, like it wasn't at school. 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,160 Yeah. No, it wasn't like self-imposed. 23 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,360 Like I wasn't asking people to call me that. 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,520 Well, we're talking about a Kate today. 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,240 We are talking about a Kate. That's so true. 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,520 Today we are talking about Kate Middleton and Prince William, 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,520 another royal couple. But first, before we get into 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,800 the episode, I loved our little trivia last this week, so I have 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,760 a couple questions for you guys about past episodes. 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,680 Yay. All right, let's do it. 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,040 Question One Name the actress who sparked engagement rumors 32 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,680 when she attended a Dior fashion party with her boyfriend and 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:46,040 donned a ring on that finger. Context clues. 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,400 Dior Fashion Party. Is it FKA twig? 35 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,840 Close. Is it Sookie Waterhouse? 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:02,440 Ding, Ding, Ding, one point. You're because Robert Pattinson 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,960 was the face of the. Yes. 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,960 Oh, I didn't catch that. I will say Kelly kind of gave 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,840 you the push with the FK. No, I literally no. 40 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:17,480 I was thinking Sookie Waterhouse, but I couldn't think 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,400 of her name, so it took me a second. 42 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,360 I was thinking of Sookie, I just couldn't think of her name. 43 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,320 OK, OK, OK. In honor of the election next 44 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,800 week, name the celebrity who once blamed an election for an 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,560 episode for an episode of infidelity. 46 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,880 In Joplin and Jonlin and Jonlin. Yep. 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,200 Fuck, we should have gotten that. 48 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,640 First I thought Paul Simon, but then I was like, no, it's John 49 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:47,120 Lennon. Yeah, Yep. 50 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,200 He didn't like the results of the election and then he cheated 51 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:56,000 on Yoko Ono. I saw something the other day 52 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,360 that was like some Entertainment Weekly or something. 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:05,280 They're posting new reveal that John Lennon cheated on his wife 54 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,800 on. I know I saw that too of. 55 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,160 The election or something like new scoop or whatever. 56 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,480 I'm like, this is old, new. Yeah, I'm like, this has been 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,240 known. Like this is not new 58 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,640 information. I even commented, 'cause you 59 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:20,280 did, yeah, 'cause I don't. Well. 60 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,880 If you listen to significant lovers, you would have known 61 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,040 this. I don't know, it's like it's 62 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,560 annoying when they post things as if it's like new information. 63 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,240 It's like people who are aware of these types of things 64 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,360 obviously would know. It's not like if you're in the 65 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,800 phantom, you would know. It's not new information, you 66 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,920 know. Yeah, it's like as if the editor 67 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,040 writing that just learned it. So it was new to them. 68 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,960 Yeah. Like it was just uncovered. 69 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:46,720 Yeah. OK. 70 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,880 Final question. Kate's winning. 71 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,440 OK, but this is double or nothing. 72 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:51,120 OK, OK. You. 73 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:52,960 Could. Tie it. 74 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,240 You could tie it. No fair. 75 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,320 Name the actor who got drunk on too much tequila and impulsively 76 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,240 showed up at his girlfriend's doorstep to confess his love to 77 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,880 her for the first time. Ohh. 78 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,120 This sounds so familiar. Yeah, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding 79 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,440 what? Oh my God. 80 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,600 Have my hands in the air. This is not fab. 81 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:20,880 Cal, that came to you quickly. I demand a recount. 82 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:24,160 Before we get into it, we want to thank some of our newest 83 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,880 patrons to the pod. So these are people who are 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,280 supporting us on Patreon. If you guys want to listen to 85 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:33,760 additional episodes, definitely feel free to check that out. 86 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:40,000 So thank you, Mark, Hebrew, Emily, Anna, Diana, and that's 87 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:40,800 it. Thank you. 88 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,200 Thank you. I also wanted to say thank you 89 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:49,600 to our listener Saki for sending us a gift recently. 90 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,880 Super generous and just made our. 91 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,600 Week, yes. Month, whatever. 92 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,440 So thank you so much. Thank you so much. 93 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,360 That was so serendipitous. It was a particularly tough day 94 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,440 and just the kindness of a stranger. 95 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:09,720 That was super, super sweet. OK, so Kate and William. 96 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,120 Mel, how would you describe this couple in three words? 97 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,680 I would say charming, supportive, and I struggled with 98 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:24,280 this last word, how to describe it, but I came to the word 99 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:27,160 measured. Basically, they're the opposite 100 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,960 of like impulsive, which a lot of couples we have covered have 101 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,520 been. They really this couple takes 102 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,240 their time. That's so interesting. 103 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,480 Yeah. And sometimes that can be good. 104 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,160 So I guess you can see how that works out for them. 105 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,160 Or maybe not. Yeah, I'm so excited. 106 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:47,000 Or maybe not. Sorry, I mean once before I read 107 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,680 a like fictionalized version of their love story. 108 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,680 I think it was called like the Royal We or something. 109 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,080 I don't remember who was bi. I didn't particularly care for 110 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:03,400 the book, but I didn't think it was virtually that great. 111 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,240 But I did think it was an interesting love stories. 112 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,880 But I am interested in hearing like the actual version of it 113 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,560 rather than the fictionalized version, you know? 114 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,880 So I'm very excited. Yeah, and a lot of the 115 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,040 information that I'm going to talk about I got from the book 116 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,520 The Making of a World of Romance by Katie Nicole, which came out 117 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,280 from when they were getting married. 118 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,920 I have never watched the season of the Crown that covers their 119 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,160 relationship or I know there's a couple movies depicted about 120 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,360 them too. I've seen the movie The Prince 121 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,760 in Me by that stars what Julia Styles isn't that. 122 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,200 Way before I. Think. 123 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,400 I think I was around when they were dating because it's like 124 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,880 about a normal girl who goes to college and then falls in love 125 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,280 with the Prince, which is kind of what this story is that we're 126 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:52,880 going to talk about today. And oh, I should tell you guys, 127 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,720 this is Part 1 because there's a lot to say about this couple. 128 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,040 So we're just going to cover their courtship in this episode. 129 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,280 And then next episode we're going to talk about their 130 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:07,600 marriage. But OK, so who is Prince 131 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,320 William? He was born on June 21st, 1982 132 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,840 in London. We covered his father and his 133 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,880 stepmother before. Check that out. 134 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,800 That's I think episode. What does that call like episode 135 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,400 six or something like that? Yeah, Charles and Camilla, one 136 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,560 of our favorites, so. He was a guilty pleasure. 137 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,960 Yes, yeah, obviously he was born to Charles and Diana. 138 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,400 His full name is William Arthur Phillip Louis. 139 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,520 And of course, he was born with an immense amount of pressure 140 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,320 and responsibility as the heir to the British throne. 141 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,080 So even though he did always grow up with nannies who were a 142 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,640 big part of his life, his mom Diana was more hands on than 143 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,840 royal mothers typically are. So William actually got to be 144 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,480 the first royal baby brought on a goodwill tour when he traveled 145 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,680 with his parents to New Zealand and Australia at just nine 146 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,280 months old. And then when he was two, his 147 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,600 brother Harry was born and the family all lived in a very 148 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,200 beautiful estate called the Highgrove House. 149 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,000 When they became adults, I think the impression is that William 150 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,160 was the more reserved and mature brother, which I think is true 151 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,680 now. But when they were little, it 152 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,840 definitely was a reverse William was more rambunctious and Harry 153 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,240 was actually a lot more quiet and reserved. 154 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,600 And William was, yeah, William was very like attention seeking, 155 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,559 extroverted, mischievous, and the Queen, like, kind of be a 156 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,919 little nervous about that, but he's like 4. 157 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,280 Give him a break. All kids are going to be a 158 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,840 little acting crazy, you know? Yeah, yeah. 159 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,400 But of course, Williams home life was not easy. 160 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,720 His parents had a very toxic relationship and they fought 161 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,680 constantly and the boys would often have to witness their 162 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:55,800 mother breaking down in tears sometimes every single day, 163 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,240 which is a lot for a kid. Definitely impacts, you know, 164 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,160 how they view romantic relationships. 165 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,000 As William got older, Diana would particularly confide in 166 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,000 him, which was just an immense burden for a little boy to take 167 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 on. And I think that is how we 168 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:17,000 started to become a lot more reserved and quiet and sensitive 169 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,240 compared to his brother I. Mean she was so young and I 170 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,440 think not in a great emotional space. 171 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,040 So I can imagine him like being the oldest, almost feeling like 172 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,640 he needs to take care of his mom or something even though he's a 173 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,880 kid. I don't know, that's just what I 174 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,720 kind of picked up from reading about the Royal. 175 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,320 Family, I can also see it being really like isolating, 176 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,560 especially for the family where they might not have like too 177 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:43,920 many close friends that they can be around with all the time. 178 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,080 So maybe the only person that Diana could confide in would be 179 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,680 her kids. And so that was kind of the only 180 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:53,040 option. So it probably wasn't the best 181 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,360 option, but it was the only option and it's not healthy for 182 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,560 anybody. Yeah, I don't blame her at all. 183 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:02,840 I mean, also, it's like she feels repressed by the 184 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,440 establishment, the palace, whatever, but she knows that her 185 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,240 boys are growing up in that environment, too. 186 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,720 And so she's probably also nervous that they're going to 187 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,320 one day, maybe even turn on her, too. 188 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,320 So I could see wanting to, like, kind of shape their opinions 189 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,120 early on in her to be sympathetic towards her. 190 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,280 But he got us a nice escape from everything that was going on at 191 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,000 home. When he was eight years old, he 192 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,640 went off to boarding school at Ludgrove School, where he played 193 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,360 soccer and swimming and basketball, clay pigeon shooting 194 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,920 and cross country. He was a very active boy. 195 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,640 And at this school he was very sheltered from photographers and 196 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,080 newspapers, and it was a safe place for him. 197 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,280 And then when he was 10, his parents sadly separated and 198 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,320 Diana moved into an apartment at Kensington Palace. 199 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,720 And during those years, she definitely tried to give William 200 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,880 and Harry as much as a normal childhood as possible. 201 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Obviously it's kind of impossible in their position, 202 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,520 but you know, she would take them to McDonald's and amusement 203 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,480 parks and the beach and stuff and it compared to other Royals, 204 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,880 like they definitely lived a more grounded upbringing I 205 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,080 guess. Then at 13 he went off to a 206 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,240 different boarding school called the EN College where he was a 207 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,720 little bit less protected. He was frequently in the 208 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,600 newspapers and was super embarrassed by all the media 209 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,360 attention when he first arrived on campus. 2 documentaries came 210 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,160 out the same week, 1 called the Making of a King and one called 211 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,840 Inside EN which was just about him arriving at school and he 212 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,560 was so embarrassed by it and he urged all of his friends to not 213 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:42,320 watch them. It's a good thing he kind of has 214 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,720 a step up from his father because I think his dad didn't 215 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,600 really have many friends at this point and. 216 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,160 True, He. Was similarly embarrassed by 217 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,920 being the Prince and all that, but he like he was a social 218 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,640 pariah. So I think it's good at least 219 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,720 that William had a step up in at least having some friends. 220 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,320 So there's that. Yeah, I get the sense like 221 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,960 William sometimes feels like an outsider and embarrassed, but he 222 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,760 is pretty popular. That's good. 223 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,560 And then also at 13, Diana's famous Martin Beshear interview 224 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:20,160 came out and Diana warned William that he had nothing to 225 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,200 worry about at all. But when he watched his 226 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,480 interview, he felt super betrayed and he was just shocked 227 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,120 that she would even let TV cameras into their life in such 228 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,800 a personal way. And he had heard things in the 229 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,520 interview that he had never even known before, like Diana's 230 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,200 affair. And sadly, he didn't really ever 231 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,960 forgive her. According to this book by 232 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,200 Nicole, what's her name? Katie Nicole. 233 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,120 And then, sadly, just two. Years how? 234 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,280 Old was he? He was 13. 235 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,760 All of his friends at school are watching this interview that 236 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,120 that was super hard for him. And then just two years later, 237 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:59,280 when he was 15, he was woken up by his father, Charles at 238 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,000 Balmoral Castle in Scotland to receive the devastating news 239 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,640 that his mom had died in a car accident. 240 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,880 We all kind of know the story as the driver was fleeing 241 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,480 photographers. And to this day, both William 242 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,960 and Harry still very much blame the press and the paparazzi for 243 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,280 what happened to their mother. And obviously that will come 244 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,040 into play in this story with William and, you know, the 245 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,640 different people that he, well, mostly Kate and how Kate becomes 246 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,080 subject to the same media attention. 247 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,720 So tragic, so sad. I know I was like kind of going 248 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,360 down a rabbit hole reading about Diana's death and it's awful. 249 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,040 For some reason every time I think about Diana's death I 250 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,880 always think William is way younger than 15. 251 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,640 Harry's really young, he's like 1213 years old when it happens. 252 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,040 So sad. It must be very complicated, 253 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,440 especially since he was already having these complicated 254 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,720 feelings of having betrayal from Diana and having the feelings 255 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,720 about his dad's infidelity and then his mom's infidelity and 256 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,560 depressed and all these. Yeah. 257 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,000 It's sad because that was happening at such a formative 258 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,920 time in his life, and it's natural when you're a teenager 259 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,000 to be kind of annoyed with your parents. 260 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,640 But he wasn't really given the opportunity to work that out 261 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,840 with his mom or like get more closure from her perspective at 262 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,120 the time. Like, it's just kind of that 263 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,880 story ended, you know, was cut short and super. 264 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,080 Sad. Yeah, you probably think you 265 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,600 have your whole life to work out these problems and issues with 266 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,720 your parents with, but unfortunately for William, he 267 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,880 wasn't able to work that out with his mother. 268 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,040 Yeah, it's so sad. And that probably in turn had 269 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,200 even more of an impact then. Yeah, he has said that the day 270 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,960 like, well, the immediate, like, I guess, you know, after his mom 271 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,320 died, it was just very dark days of grief. 272 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,200 And now he has said that he doesn't really wallow in it as 273 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,400 much anymore. It seems like he's been able to 274 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:11,320 find some some peace with it, but I think both him and Harry 275 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,000 have some PTSD from it, especially when it comes to the 276 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,120 press. I bet. 277 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:21,920 But so OK, so before meeting Kate, William was quite the 278 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,600 bachelor from my early age. I always think of. 279 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,320 What is it this The Princess Diaries, too. 280 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,600 And he's on the screen and they're like, I just like to 281 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,960 look at him. Everybody loved Prince William, 282 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,520 so when he was 16, he had his first girlfriend. 283 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,920 Her name was Jeka Craig. Remember that name? 284 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,960 Jeka. OK, she'll come up. 285 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,600 She'll come up later. But he met her while in Kenya 286 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,120 doing a volunteer environment, her mental work. 287 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,880 She was an environmental conservationalist and they 288 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,480 worked together their their families had like kind of known 289 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:58,000 each other. She. 290 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,360 Older. No, she was also pretty young 291 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,280 too. I don't know like how she got in 292 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,720 the position to be honest, to be like doing that work. 293 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,960 But they both felt. Very. 294 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:09,960 Impressive. Yeah. 295 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,960 They both fell in love with Kenya and each other and they 296 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,880 had a quite the summer romance. And was she English? 297 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,480 I think so, yes. When he was 18, he had his next 298 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,240 girlfriend, a childhood friend who he had another summer fling 299 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,680 with. That's kind of his MO. 300 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,120 This was just after finishing high school and they connected 301 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,480 at the local, well, not the local. 302 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:40,280 It's like a high end. It's not like the down polo 303 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,720 glove, it's like the royal polo. Club. 304 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,520 That's how. Charles, Mick, Camilla. 305 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,720 Wow. Apparently though, this was a 306 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,080 really sweet and innocent love affair. 307 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,400 Oh, I should mention her name was Rose Farquhar. 308 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,560 Farquhar. Yeah, Farquhar. 309 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,800 Wait, if I quad it doesn't like Shrek? 310 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,960 There's no D, but it feels like there should be, you know? 311 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,400 OK, so it's not like Shrek. No, no, but it's. 312 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,280 Similar. I was just talking about Lord 313 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,800 Farquhar because it's a joker too and sometimes he looks like 314 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:25,319 him anyway. Anyway, and lastly, he dated a 315 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:29,040 girl named Arabella Musgraves, who is another childhood friend 316 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,480 of Williams who he also had a summer fling with after his gap 317 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,080 year. This is when he was 19, 318 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,520 following his gap year after high school, so he didn't 319 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,960 immediately go off to university. 320 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,640 And this relationship apparently was more passionate and physical 321 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,440 than the relationships in the past. 322 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,160 How do people know that? I don't know. 323 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:57,520 He has been described as quite serious, cautious about the 324 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,000 company that he keeps, distrustful of others, a little 325 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,120 bit, as I said, measured, mature, but also very active. 326 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:08,520 He loves sports. He's, you know, very into all of 327 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,200 his activities and I would say he's a little indecisive too. 328 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,840 Seems like his dad. I was kind of seems like the 329 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,000 opposite of his dad. What? 330 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,160 Yeah. Well, I guess does he like to 331 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,240 read and is into, you know, history and stuff or? 332 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,480 He's. Or is he more of like a athlete? 333 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,600 He actually was not the best student. 334 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,920 OK 'cause he seems like the popular jock type and his dad 335 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:42,400 was like very shy and like reserved true with the with the 336 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,680 old ladies and. He's friends with the old lady. 337 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,440 With his teddy. Yeah. 338 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,920 I mean, obviously they're not like they're not clones, 339 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,320 obviously, but I feel like he seems more, more serious, less 340 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,920 fun in a way. I mean, I don't know, I think I 341 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,400 think they can both. I think anyone's capable of 342 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,760 having fun but. I think it's probably just like, 343 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,320 because he's royal, he's probably just more picky about 344 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,480 who he lets into his close circle. 345 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,040 And that's probably why, like all of his past relationships 346 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,880 are like childhood friends, people he's known for like 10 347 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,840 plus years, you know? And that's why he's so measured 348 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,480 and why he's probably like less, maybe standoffish a little bit. 349 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:32,440 And even though he probably is Mr. Popular and outgoing, maybe 350 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,160 he isn't as I don't know what I'm trying to say. 351 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,800 Carefree. He's not carefree. 352 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,440 I feel like he's. Being less carefree. 353 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,680 I I just think being the heir to the throne probably forces a 354 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,640 responsibility on you that you can't escape. 355 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,920 Yeah, but who is Kate? This Catherine Middleton. 356 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,400 In the press, she was considered a normal middle class girl whose 357 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,600 family has coal mining ancestry. And it was a very big deal that 358 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:05,440 this is the first time a royal has married a commoner in 350 359 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,400 years. They kind of present Kate as 360 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,920 just the average girl next door, but that's not exactly the case. 361 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Yes, when she was born, her family was. 362 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,920 Middle class and yes there is some coal mining ancestry there 363 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,360 through her mom and at this time when she was born her parents 364 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:25,600 did have normal jobs. Her mom Carol was a flight 365 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,720 attendant and her dad was a flight dispatcher and they lived 366 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,160 in a pretty modest 2 bedroom house in Bradfield South End. 367 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,440 However, she does have aristocratic and noble ties. 368 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,960 Her great grandmother was a member of the Lupton family who 369 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,600 are very wealthy, who are very wealthy and notable land owners 370 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,360 and they were described landed Gentry. 371 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:49,560 And we're well acquainted with the British royal family and 372 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,600 well known philanthropist. And actually, meanwhile, 373 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,320 researchers in 2010 discovered that she's technically related 374 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:05,120 to the royal family, royal family, although distantly, her 375 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:10,440 11th great paternal grandfather, Sir Thomas Leighton, was a 16th 376 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,320 century governor and diplomat who was also the 12th great 377 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,800 maternal grandfather to Prince William, OH. 378 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,960 My gosh, that's so that's. So very. 379 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,600 Distant. I know when people found this 380 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,000 out they were like the kissing cousins but. 381 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,480 Why do we always talk about this? 382 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:35,520 Take a drink. Covering some kissing cousins. 383 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,640 Everybody, I mean, everybody's related. 384 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,960 Technically, yeah. I mean, I saw something recently 385 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,880 where if you go back far enough, like if everybody were to have 386 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:55,280 completely unique ancestors, that would mean way more people 387 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,440 that have ever lived ever on this planet, ever in the history 388 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,160 of this world. So that would mean that like 389 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,480 everybody has some form of incest in our ancestors. 390 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,040 Oh, totally. Just yeah. 391 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,040 Not possible to not yeah. I heard I heard that in human 392 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,040 history, 80% of marriages are between cousins. 393 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,520 OK, that's a lot. I feel like that kind of 394 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,240 probably ended. People have been around. 395 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,680 People have. Been around for a long time. 396 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,240 I know. But yeah, technically that this 397 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,000 makes them 12th cousins once removed, so it's pretty distant. 398 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,240 That's so. Far, yeah. 399 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,800 Additionally, when she was five years old, her mother founded 400 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,440 the company called Party Pieces, which is a mail order party 401 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,040 supply retailer. So it's basically like Party 402 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,920 City, but catalog version of that. 403 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,960 And this business really took off and at its peak, it was 404 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,560 estimated to be valued at around $37 million. 405 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,640 So kids, families got a little money. 406 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,800 They are not really your average middle class family. 407 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,560 They are rich. And after that business took 408 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,400 off, her family moved into a $1 million home in Chapel Row, and 409 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,360 they also purchased a London flat in Chelsea for occasional 410 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:20,080 use whenever they want it. So it's not like she's really 411 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,400 the girl next door. Wait, so was this $1 million 412 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,200 place before or after the two-bedroom house? 413 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,960 That that was after this. So when Kate was around 5, like 414 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,040 her family moved into a really big house. 415 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,360 It is impressive. I mean, that's pretty self-made 416 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,680 millionaire. But yeah, she's not like just a 417 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,320 lowly commoner. No, you know, no. 418 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,800 She's pretty privileged and Kate and her younger siblings Pippa 419 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,080 and Michael also attended very prestigious private schools. 420 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,200 And she was big into athletics in school plays. 421 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,200 And when she was 10 years old, she actually first encountered 422 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,080 William in person because his school would come to compete 423 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,120 against her school in rugby matches. 424 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,160 And that was a big deal at her school. 425 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,160 Like the Prince is coming to play against our school. 426 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,640 So all the kids at the school would like get excited and watch 427 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,920 on the sidelines to see him. And she got a glimpse of him. 428 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,680 Wow. When she was 13, she was lead in 429 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,720 a drama called Murder in the Red. 430 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,200 And in the play, her character meets with a fortune teller who 431 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,040 tells her, soon you will meet a handsome man, a rich gentleman. 432 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,440 And she responds, it's all I ever hope for. 433 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,080 Will he fall in love with me? And then the fortune teller 434 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,080 says, indeed he will. And then she asks, will he marry 435 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,440 me? To which the fortune teller says 436 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,440 yes. And then, lo and behold, the 437 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,360 rich man in this play was named William. 438 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,200 What? Is that crazy? 439 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,040 So was it. Real. 440 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,840 Was that like all scripted but then it all just like came to 441 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,480 fruition? Yeah, it was some weird 442 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,160 foreshadowing in real life. That is kind of creepy. 443 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,160 And there's actually like a very grainy video of it on YouTube if 444 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,560 you want to see it. Whoa. 445 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,440 And then at 14, Keith began her first year of high school at 446 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,280 Down High School, which is an all girls boarding school. 447 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,400 But she really struggled to fit in because the school was very 448 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,400 cliquey. The other girls apparently 449 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,240 teased her for being too into studies and not otherworldly 450 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,640 enough. And she was also just painfully 451 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,840 shy and really not that confident. 452 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,240 The next year she attended Marble Marlboro College, a Co Ed 453 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,560 boarding school, and she was very shy and homesick there. 454 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,040 But she had a much easier time. Apparently people really liked 455 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,240 her. They thought of her as really 456 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,160 easygoing. And former classmates remember 457 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,800 her as not partaking in drinking or partying, but her being very 458 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,440 into sports, playing tennis, swimming and hockey. 459 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,640 And at this time she wasn't really into guys. 460 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,920 Apparently there were rumors that she allegedly had a poster 461 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,920 William in her dorm room and that she would say to her 462 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,000 friends. I bet he's really kind. 463 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,720 You can just tell looking at him. 464 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,760 But Kate denies this. You know, Fast forward when they 465 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,320 got engaged, she was actually asked about this in their 466 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,000 engagement interview. And she said, and it was kind of 467 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,960 cute. William jokes, she had 10 468 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,800 posters of me on the wall. And then then Kate laughed and 469 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,600 says he wishes, no, I had the Levi's model on my wall. 470 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,560 And then she turns to William and she goes, sorry, sorry. 471 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,520 It's really cute that. Was up to right, Yeah, I 472 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,720 thought. Someone just made that up. 473 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,880 I know it's a nice story, but maybe too good of a story. 474 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:43,440 Yeah, wow, she sounds so like sweet and just simple and I 475 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,960 don't know, I can picture some of my friends from high school 476 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,240 being like her in a way. Yeah, I really like her. 477 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,600 Researching her, she seems, she seems like very down to earth, 478 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,840 actually. That said, there are reports 479 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,680 that she did very unseriously date a classmate named Henry 480 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,480 Preston in high school, and they were actually dubbed one of the 481 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,280 best couples in the yearbook. So she must have had a 482 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,840 boyfriend. Henry Preston. 483 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:08,640 I know that's such a like preppy name. 484 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,920 So posh. Her second year at school, the 485 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,560 boys on campus actually rated her as 2 out of 10 for her 486 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,320 looks. So mean she's a. 487 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,160 What? Oh my God. 488 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,280 But then she had a glow up over the summer and with the help of 489 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,680 her mom, she like went to her mom and she's like, I want to 490 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,360 look better or something. And I don't know what they did. 491 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:34,080 But she returned to school and she was reportedly put on the 492 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,760 fit list, which was a list of the the prettiest girls on 493 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,640 campus. Oh my God none of those guys 494 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,560 deserve her after rating her only a 2 out of 10. 495 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,440 That's insane. First of all don't rape people 496 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,480 but also that's just crazy. I don't think anybody is a 2 out 497 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,880 of 10 and. No. 498 00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:01,040 I don't think anybody's below like A7, you know, especially no 499 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,280 girls, nobody, no one. No girl is below a 7 I think. 500 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,040 Oh yeah, I know. I saw. 501 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,920 I saw something recently that was like, I've never seen an 502 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,880 ugly woman. And I think that's true. 503 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,960 I think all women are beautiful in many different ways. 504 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,400 I feel like there's no. Way she was a 2. 505 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,960 I mean, I know that we all have our awkward years and such, but 506 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,640 she's so beautiful and I just don't get how she could have 507 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,640 ever been a two. It's so mean. 508 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,360 I know, I think, I think people are just cruel at that age. 509 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,200 Yeah, I know. After graduating high school, 510 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,200 she took a gap year. She traveled to Italy and Chile 511 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,800 with friends, and then she began she began college. 512 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,280 I know they said college is like high school there. 513 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,040 But she began university at Saint Andrews in Scotland to 514 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,760 study art history. Man, I would have loved to go to 515 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,880 uni in Scotland, yeah. So cool. 516 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:01,360 And she has been just described as shy, feminine, calm, 517 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:07,360 unassuming, demure, sporty and very self assured. 518 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:15,800 Do you know what Sporty played? No, I said sporty, Sporty. 40 519 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,120 She. Said 4040 now though she played 520 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,640 the same as William. She played like tennis and 521 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,760 swimming. She played swimming. 522 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,040 She was Benjamin Buttoning this entire time. 523 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,160 You're still laughing. What the for? 524 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:37,520 Yeah. OK, OK, so it is time for uni. 525 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,200 It's 2001 and William breaks from 150 years of family 526 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,920 tradition by attending Saint Andrews University in Scotland 527 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,960 rather than going to Oxford or Cambridge because he wanted to 528 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,120 study art. And apparently they had a good 529 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,560 program there. And he lived in Saint Salvador's 530 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,440 hall. And his new friend group on 531 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,000 campus was nicknamed the Sally Boys. 532 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,720 And among the boys on Salvatore Hall, they would see this 533 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,920 beautiful brunette Kate Middleton. 534 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,440 And she apparently was dubbed the prettiest girl at Sally's 535 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,200 after their freshman orientation week. 536 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,280 So like all the guys on campus are in this hall like knew of 537 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,080 Kate Middleton and. That's so. 538 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,440 Cute one day they. Couldn't have competed with the 539 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,360 Prince of England, do you know? I know. 540 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,600 If he had his sights on her, how could they compete? 541 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,240 I know one day William had the courage to ask her to eat 542 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,440 breakfast with him at the dining hall with him and his friends. 543 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,800 And when they were eating breakfast together, they 544 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,880 discovered that they had a lot in common. 545 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,840 They both were one in the same major. 546 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,040 They both enjoyed playing sports, including swimming and 547 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,880 skiing. They both had coincidentally 548 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,080 taken a gap year the year before and spent some of that time in 549 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,640 Chile and in Florence. So. 550 00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,400 They both. Did. 551 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,000 Wow. Weird. 552 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,720 And that freshman year, William and Kate became pretty close. 553 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,840 They apparently would study together and because William was 554 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,280 on the water polo team, they would wake up early and go 555 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,160 swimming together. However, they were just friends 556 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,320 at this point. They actually both were dating 557 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,040 other people. Yep, I know. 558 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,320 So that first semester, William began dating a creative creative 559 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,800 writing major named Carly Massey Birch and she has been described 560 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,640 as a country bumpkin who was very down to earth, tall and 561 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,240 beautiful. I know and OK, I feel bad saying 562 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,320 this, I feel bad. But she was known as having the 563 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,720 best derriere on campus. That's what. 564 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,240 Derriere like ass. Oh. 565 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,840 She had a big butt. This is all from this place. 566 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,480 The the best butt the. Best butt on campus? 567 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,760 Wow. And apparently Kate was also 568 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,240 going out with an older senior guy named Rupert Finch, but I 569 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,880 don't really know a lot about him. 570 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,480 I don't. I tried to look into it. 571 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,360 I'm so intrigued by this writer with a big butt who's a country 572 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,000 bumpkist. Who dated the Prince of England 573 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,640 for a brief period of time. Who's she? 574 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,240 What's her story? I don't know, maybe we can cover 575 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,360 them in like a side episode. Despite having a solid group of 576 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,640 friends and a girlfriend, William really wasn't happy that 577 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,600 freshman year and he found his course load very challenging and 578 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,560 would often and go home. And when he would go home, he 579 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,840 would go clubbing with his friends back in London and spend 580 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,600 time with his old summer fling Arabella. 581 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,520 You know the one he had that passionate relationship with, 582 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,040 physical relationship and that ultimately LED Carly, you know, 583 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,720 the country bumpkin, to break up with him. 584 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,640 More. Carly, I was going to say 585 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,160 freshman year is really hard. It is even even if you are 586 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:04,040 technically having fun, it just you feel really unstable. 587 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,960 I don't know, I just I can understand missing your old. 588 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,280 Mates. Yeah. 589 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,640 Especially first semester. First semester so rough. 590 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,120 Everyone was crying. And even if you grew up with 591 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:23,200 like the best education or the best tutors going into probably, 592 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,320 you know, like college or whatever, it could be a 593 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,360 challenge for you. It's so cool. 594 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,600 I feel like we, I feel like we've never covered a couple 595 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,160 like in college. Yeah, before. 596 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,160 Besides Albert. Einstein not like this in Oh 597 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,320 yeah, true to true. Usually not this in depth yet, 598 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,920 Einstein. So if you're still in high 599 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,280 school and you're about to go into college, just know that it 600 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,520 can be a little challenging, but. 601 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,600 Even for Prince. William, but not too 602 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,520 challenging. I don't know, I'm trying to be. 603 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,920 No, it gets better. I feel like with college, it 604 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,720 takes a while to really find your footing and your friend 605 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,400 group. It just kind of settles in 606 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,440 without you realizing it. But in the beginning, you're 607 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,880 like, you're leaving your door open, you know, You're like 608 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,600 really forcing these friendships and it's kind of awkward. 609 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,360 I don't think anyone really opens their door anymore. 610 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,679 Yeah, I want. I'm sure William didn't, but you 611 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,920 know also for him, he has to have like security with him, the 612 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,639 whole. Time so it doesn't help. 613 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,000 Wow, so after one semester he really wanted to transfer, but 614 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,920 the palace was worried that that would be a PR nightmare and that 615 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,880 it would alienate their relationship with the Scots. 616 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,000 So that sucks. Like you have also have this 617 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,239 whole like. Political reasons. 618 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,400 You can't. Literally. 619 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,679 Can't piss off a whole country. Apparently Prince Philip was 620 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:55,000 like his grandfather was like, yeah, he needs to suck it up, he 621 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,760 just has to stay there. And they settled on a compromise 622 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,080 that he could change his major to geography instead. 623 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,120 Oh, cool. So then I, I do think that, oh, 624 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,200 sorry, just for our maybe young listeners out there, I do think 625 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,360 sometimes it is good to just suck it up and stick it out 626 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,200 because I think a lot of people after one semester were like, 627 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,800 I'm leaving. But no, like you said, it can 628 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,680 get better. No for. 629 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,480 Real definitely stick it out, it will get better 100%. 630 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,040 I love all the advice for giving some people. 631 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:31,920 OK, so second semester there. Kate is volunteering to catwalk 632 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,600 in a on campus charity fashion show. 633 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,920 I've heard of this. And William paid 202 hundred to 634 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,320 sit in the front row. And as Kate walked down the 635 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,800 runway in a black underwear and a see through dress, William 636 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,200 apparently turned to his friend Fergus and said Kate's hot wow. 637 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,080 He was a googly eyed for her. And after the fashion show at an 638 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,480 after party, Kate and William were deep in conversation in the 639 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,760 corner and they clinked their glasses together to toast. 640 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,560 And then apparently, I don't know how we know this, but 641 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:14,320 apparently William leaned in and kissed her, but Kate pulled away 642 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,520 because keep in mind, she still has a boyfriend at this point 643 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:23,280 and classic. But apparently she's did return 644 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,320 the feelings. I mean, you know, you know, when 645 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,280 you kind of like someone, but you don't know if they like you 646 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,120 and then is confirmed that they like you and then you really 647 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,120 like them. You know, I think that's what 648 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,120 happened here. Oh. 649 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,400 Come on, Yes, you do. Anyways, so now it's sophomore 650 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,600 year, and Kate and William are actually roommates in a shared 651 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,320 flat with three other friends, Fergus, Olivia and Natasha. 652 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,800 So the five of them are all yeah, they're all living. 653 00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:56,000 They were roommates. They're living together, 654 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,600 splitting chores, buying groceries, throwing dinner 655 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,160 parties, and I don't think the roommates knew right away that 656 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,360 there was something going on between Kate and William in the 657 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,120 eyes of the press and the public. 658 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,400 William at this point is single, but paparazzi is always trying 659 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,440 to catch him with different girls and link him up with 660 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,720 someone. But in their own apartment 661 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:20,280 behind closed doors, William and Kate are free to just be 662 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,320 romantic with each other, which because I would say, like, if 663 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,440 you're a sophomore in college, don't roam with someone that 664 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,680 you're newly dating or that you have a crush on. 665 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,880 I think that's bad news, but I can see where William wants 666 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,680 privacy. That is kind of a smart idea 667 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,840 that like you can at least have some privacy within your own 668 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,120 apartment. It's a way to be discreet, so 669 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,440 it's not like you have your own apartment, but then the 670 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,400 paparazzi can see Kate, like, coming and going. 671 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,360 Yeah. Exactly this way, living 672 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,000 together, if Kate's coming and going, they can just be like, Oh 673 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,240 well, Kate lives there. Yeah, exactly. 674 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,920 Wow. And in public, they would arrive 675 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,800 at events separately and they had an agreement to never hold 676 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,720 hands in public. So is anything happening at this 677 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:06,000 point in time? Yeah, they're hooking up. 678 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,360 I don't know what happened to Kate's old boyfriend, but her 679 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,800 and William are together and actually the their friends first 680 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,440 found out at a little party at their flat when William's 681 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,280 ex-girlfriend Carly, the country bumpkin, was there. 682 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,920 And they're all playing. Never have I ever. 683 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:28,560 And Carly said never have I ever dated two people in this room. 684 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,160 And then William rolls his eyes and takes a drink. 685 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,320 And that's the first time that he acknowledged to all of his 686 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,400 friends that he was dating Kate. This is such a good teen drama 687 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,920 or something. I'm like, gosh. 688 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:49,360 So then after the school year, Kate had a 1920s themed 21st 689 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,120 birthday party. Me and Kelly had one fun and 690 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,760 they apparently were very cozy with each other. 691 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,240 And at the end of the school year, the press is beginning to 692 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:01,040 hear rumors about Kate. People are starting to pick up 693 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,800 who is this Kate Middleton person? 694 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,120 Reporters actually showed up at her parents house and confronted 695 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,480 her father on his doorstep. And he said, we are very amused 696 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,720 at the thought of being in laws with the royal family, but I 697 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,440 don't think it is going to happen. 698 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,280 But he might not even know that, like Kate and William are dating 699 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,760 at this point. Because I don't know. 700 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,960 At that age, you don't tell your parents everything. 701 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,800 No, especially if it's something casual maybe. 702 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,920 It's kind of under the radar, this relationship, I think. 703 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,560 Then a few weeks later, William had his 21st birthday and 704 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,960 allegedly he was actually more preoccupied with the presence of 705 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,440 his ex-girlfriend Jacka there. You know, Jack is the one from 706 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,240 Kenya that he met. Yep. 707 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,320 Flash from the past. And if you were there at this 708 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,440 party, you would have actually thought that he was dating Jacka 709 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,880 instead of Kate. While he people were singing 710 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,840 Happy Birthday to him, Jacka was standing next to him. 711 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:06,200 Wow this is such a early 20s college type of experience. 712 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,080 Like. I think, seriously, it feels so 713 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,840 ordinary. It does. 714 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,400 Why was Jacka you? I don't know. 715 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,640 I don't she's, like, going to be there a lot. 716 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,320 Like, he really keeps in touch with her. 717 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,800 Wow. So then junior year, William and 718 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,880 Kate are back at school and still together and are desperate 719 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,840 for more privacy. And the couple moved to a very 720 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,160 storybook looking private cottage 1/4 mile away from 721 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,320 campus and, like, his security officers. 722 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,080 Yeah. Like, yeah, it's like a little 723 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,080 house. Wow. 724 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,440 Which it's pretty serious. Like I'm too. 725 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:41,480 Young. For that house. 726 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,560 In this book, the author writes, William joked that it was like a 727 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:51,280 miniature high growth and with its crab apple trees, blooming 728 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,720 rhododendrons and patches of wild poppies, it was an 729 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,720 impressive substitute. When it was warm enough, they 730 00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:01,240 would pack a picnic hamper and spend a pleasant afternoon 731 00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:04,080 stretched out on a blanket, sharing a bottle of chilled 732 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,000 white wine, an occasional pheasant, their only company. 733 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,400 They were blissful days, made all the more romantic by the 734 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,200 fact virtual actually, no one knew about their romance. 735 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,240 Wow, it sounds like so beautiful. 736 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,160 I know the public would soon learn about their romance for 737 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,480 real. It was leaked on April 1st, 738 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,240 2004. Kate had accompanied the royal 739 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:32,920 family on a trip to Closters, a resort village in the Swiss Alps 740 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,720 where they had vacationed for skiing every year, and paparazzi 741 00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:40,040 took photos of them on the slopes together. 742 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,240 And The Sun published the photos with the headline Finally dot 743 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:47,240 dot dot. William gets a girl, finally. 744 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:53,120 Finally, he's had girl. Yeah, this is like his fifth 745 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,440 girlfriend at this point. Compared to Diana or Meghan 746 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,080 Markle, I would say that Kate had a more smooth transition 747 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,920 into the royal family. She was really polite with 748 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,240 photographers and she never spoke out. 749 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:09,400 And I, I just think she had an easier time, like keeping her 750 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,840 peace and not really letting things bother her too much. 751 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,760 I think she like got it what she was supposed to do and she 752 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,920 really enjoyed spending time with Williams family too. 753 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,560 She's very like professional, I guess you'd say. 754 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,440 Keeps her cards close. She's good at that. 755 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,600 Now it's senior year, and even though Kate and William seem to 756 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,240 be having a lot of fun together, William began telling his 757 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,680 friends that he's feeling claustrophobic in the 758 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,400 relationship and wants space. Allegedly, he claimed that he 759 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,440 wanted to focus on his studies his senior year before 760 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,840 graduating to Kate. Like he claimed he wants to 761 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,600 focus on his studies more, but honestly, it kind of seems like 762 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,040 he just didn't want to be tied down to one girl. 763 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,160 Apparently he had taken up a close friendship with an 764 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,640 American heiress named Anna Sloane, who he had met through a 765 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,040 mutual friend. And Anna had recently lost her 766 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,600 father in a tragic shooting, and William and her bonded over 767 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,040 their shared grief over losing a parent. 768 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:15,720 And he was pursuing her so. I think this is such a common 769 00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:17,920 thing. You're in your early 20s too, 770 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,440 like that. It sucks to hear that and we 771 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,480 feel for Kate, but I mean they are young. 772 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,000 It must be kind of intense to be already living in a house 773 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:27,800 together. Yeah. 774 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,040 Basically acting like you're married and you're still in 775 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,240 college. I know some people are ready for 776 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,600 that when they're in college, but it sounds a bit intense to 777 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,960 me and probably being. The heir to the throne. 778 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,760 There's probably some pressure as well. 779 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,120 Oh totally. And especially with his parents 780 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,160 marriage, he definitely probably wanted to play the field to be 781 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,400 like, OK, like, I want to make sure I'm definitely picking the 782 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,920 right partner for me. Yeah, I was going to say I was 783 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,400 kind of glad to hear he had a couple of girlfriends because, 784 00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:00,720 yeah, he, you want him to explore a little bit and, yeah, 785 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,480 take his time, not just jump right into it. 786 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,720 But still, it's sad for Kate, I know. 787 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,760 Probably. But apparently this Anna girl 788 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,160 actually only saw William as just a friend. 789 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,720 Yeah, and apparently he also was thinking a lot about life after 790 00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:21,720 college, and he actually had his sights on reconnecting a parent. 791 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:23,480 Allegedly. How do we know for sure? 792 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,760 But he allegedly wanted to reconnect with Jacka in Kenya. 793 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,880 Is Jacka like the one that got away? 794 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,720 That seems like him and Kate go on a break. 795 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:38,760 And actually during that trial, separate separation, he also 796 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,240 developed feelings for another person, an heiress named 797 00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:46,600 Isabella, who was the daughter of a wealthy banker. 798 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,440 And according to Nicole, the author, she had CoverGirl looks 799 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,360 compared to Kate's girl next door beauty, which is kind of 800 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,000 mean, I think he is different kinds of beauty, I guess. 801 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,000 But apparently Isabella also rejected William. 802 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,640 Seems like it's actually. So like his dad? 803 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,960 Yeah, that is, he keeps trying to open doors, that's away from 804 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,640 Kate, and they keep getting shut right into his face. 805 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,920 I like the way you put it. I know I mean. 806 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,600 Jack goes away in Kenya. Like, I know. 807 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:24,080 So in the fall they return to school and Kate and William are 808 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,800 back together. You know it. 809 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,360 That's so normal, too. Like, you go away for the 810 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,720 summer, you break up, but then you're back on campus. 811 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,720 Let's just be together, you know? 812 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,280 And they agreed that he wouldn't try to contact Isabella anymore, 813 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,400 the other girl he was pursuing, which, like, duh. 814 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,360 You shouldn't be doing that, you know? 815 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,720 Yeah, but Charles was a big fan of Kate and he would invite her 816 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:51,680 to join the family on the annual ski trip, and he actually 817 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,920 invited her to go skiing with them just before his wedding to 818 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,000 Camilla. Nice. 819 00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:58,560 Wow, so Charles himself is reaching out. 820 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,640 Yes, inviting her. Well, maybe he's saying to 821 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,800 William, like, invite Kate, you know, But Kate wasn't able to go 822 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,240 to the wedding because of royal protocol. 823 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,680 Oh, what's the protocol? I don't know. 824 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,440 Basically, the firm is just like now she's not serious enough. 825 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,960 Maybe they have to be engaged or something to go to the wedding. 826 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,760 So then after college, there was some uncertainty about, you 827 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,680 know, whether this is just a college relationship or if it's 828 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,040 for the long haul. And I think they both were not 829 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,480 sure about it. William traveled to New Zealand 830 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,920 to do some real engagements and then returned to Kenya. 831 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,240 And he actually met up with Jacka, but this time around he 832 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:41,040 brought Kate with him so. That's. 833 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,680 That's a good sign. Then in January 2006, William 834 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,440 began his military training and he and Kate would have to be 835 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,640 apart for a month. And beforehand, per Harry 836 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,040 suggestion, the couple went off on a romantic ski holiday to the 837 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,440 Swiss Alps, where they were photographed kissing by 838 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,800 paparazzi. And at this time, the palace is 839 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,480 already drawing up plans about a potential engagement, even 840 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,720 though William has no plans to propose anytime soon. 841 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,960 And apparently this obviously seems very premature, but it's 842 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:19,600 not unusual in the royal family and they start planning things 843 00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:23,080 super far in advance. Weddings, even funerals, they'll 844 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,080 plan very far in advance, sometimes decades before a 845 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,920 person has even passed away. May 2006 Kate attended the 846 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,320 wedding of Williams step sister Laura Parker Bowles and her 847 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,280 presence there solidified to the public that she was a part of 848 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,840 this family. And around this time, Woolworths 849 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,880 began making William and Kate branded wedding China to prepare 850 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:52,400 an announcement. That's so premature. 851 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,600 It's really fine advance. What do they do? 852 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,640 With all that China, that doesn't happen. 853 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,600 This made William very anxious, especially remembering how much 854 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,200 pressure his mom felt before getting married. 855 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,520 Apparently Diana had cold feet right before marrying Charles, 856 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,240 and her sister said bad luck. Dutch, your name is on the tea 857 00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:16,000 towels so you're too late to chicken out now. 858 00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:20,080 And you know William, Why did she say that? 859 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:20,960 I know. Seriously. 860 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:23,480 William is not. What you want to hear? 861 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,280 Literally, yeah. It's never too late. 862 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,040 He's anxious, you know, he's not even sure if Kate is the one and 863 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,120 the public is really projecting this onto. 864 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,880 Them. Yeah, he feels like his fate is 865 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,280 probably already written. Deep SO. 866 00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:39,600 I mean, maybe. I mean, he probably does really 867 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,680 really like Kate, but it probably doesn't help your 868 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,040 feelings to feel like you have no choice in the matter. 869 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,800 Yeah, and it's stressful getting even like normal people, it's 870 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,360 stressful to get a lot of pressure from your relatives or 871 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,040 whatever, so. I empathize. 872 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,360 Yeah. And William was very cautious, 873 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,680 too. Like, he doesn't want to rush 874 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,280 into marriage unless this was a decision that they were both 875 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,880 absolutely sure about. Like, he wants to make sure that 876 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,840 Kate is sure about it, too. Yeah. 877 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,440 Because it's a big deal to marry a Prince, so he wants to make 878 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,120 sure that Kate knows what she's getting herself into. 879 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,040 How old are they at this point in time? 880 00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:19,440 Young. They're like 2423. 881 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,960 Wow. So then William is in the 882 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,480 Military Academy, and Kate lives in a London flat that her 883 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,480 parents bought for her, and she's applying to work at art 884 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,960 galleries. I kind of feel like she, yeah, I 885 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,600 kind of feel like she probably identifies with, like, Charlotte 886 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,920 York. Oh, yeah. 887 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,520 So then it's December 2006, and Kate sat front row at Williams 888 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,320 graduation ceremony from the Royal Military Academy at 889 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,240 Sandhurst. And Kate's parents actually sat 890 00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:51,720 next to her, too, along with Williams grandmother, the Queen. 891 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,120 Charles and Camilla were also present. 892 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,560 And this was really at Kate's first official event as Williams 893 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,600 girlfriend besides the wedding of his step sister. 894 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,280 And according to lip readers, who knows if this is true, but 895 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,840 Kate whispered to her mother during the ceremony. 896 00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:09,520 I love the uniform, it's so sexy. 897 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:13,760 Wow. And there's speculation about, 898 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,240 as mentioned, an eventual engagement and which is only 899 00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:21,320 intensified by the press. And curiosity about Kate is just 900 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,360 beginning to grow more and more. And William is very determined 901 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,760 to make sure that Kate didn't really experience the same 902 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,640 suffering that his mom did. So he set her up with a team of 903 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,000 people, including royal protection officers and aides 904 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,800 who helped to coach her on how to handle photographers. 905 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,800 Nice. So she's kind of like training 906 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,040 for many years for this. Meanwhile, her career is kind of 907 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,840 uncertain. She sets up a clothing business 908 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,120 under her parents company, but she's traveling to Milan to buy 909 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,080 all these materials for it and she quickly runs into debt. 910 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,400 It's not really going so well. And then she accepts a part time 911 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,800 job as an accessory buyer for a clothing store called Jigsaw, 912 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,560 but she only does that for a year. 913 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,880 And then she just does like project management for her 914 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,120 parents company. So it's kind of all over the 915 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,000 place. January of 2007, it's Kate's 916 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,800 25th birthday and the press is speculating that again, maybe 917 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,400 this is when they'll get engaged on her birthday. 918 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,840 So she she wakes up on her birthday to hundreds of 919 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,240 photographers waiting outside her house to snap a photo of 920 00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:24,080 her. But of course she's not engaged. 921 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,880 She's only 25, and this is the first time that she really 922 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,800 started to feel utterly overwhelmed and isolated in this 923 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,440 experience. And William actually issued a 924 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,320 very rare statement to the press asking for privacy because he 925 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,400 feels bad that Kate's birthday has been ruined by this. 926 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,800 But at this time, a single image of Kate could sell upwards of 927 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,880 €20,000, so it's very hard to get privacy. 928 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,560 And all the while things are getting kind of rocky between 929 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,000 them. William and Kate are spending 930 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,560 less and less time together with him away doing military training 931 00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,240 for weeks at a time, and in the spring they do go on a ski trip 932 00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,480 to go together. However, there are multiple 933 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,880 reports that when William goes to London, he actually goes 934 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,720 clubbing without Kate and is often photographed cozying up to 935 00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:12,480 other girls one time. He thought you're going to say 936 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,760 Jeca. No, no, not Jeca. 937 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,160 Just like kind of random girls. One time it's this blonde girl 938 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,120 who he's seen flirting and dancing with, another time he's 939 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,520 photographed with his arm around this 18 year old Brazilian 940 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,280 student. And honestly, I think it's 941 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,320 innocent, but his hand is kind of close to her breast. 942 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,720 But I think it's just like where his hand falls. 943 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,680 But of course, in the press, it's like William grabbing this 944 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,120 girl's boob. And then another time he's 945 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,280 photographed dancing with another woman. 946 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,440 So. And then another time it's with 947 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:49,800 that big butt writer. Hillbilly or whatever. 948 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,000 But you know, all these instances are very embarrassing 949 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,760 for Kate and she gives him an ultimatum that he has to either 950 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,160 fully commit to her or it's over. 951 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,480 And to that, William told her that they should take a break. 952 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,200 That is not the response you want to hear. 953 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:12,400 I know, I know. I'm not shots because I feel 954 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,640 like that's what I expected because that's why I felt like 955 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,680 he was feeling. But at the same time, I know 956 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,320 what happens in the future. So at the same time, I thought 957 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,360 that that wouldn't happen, you know? 958 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,400 I know. Wow, how does he turn it around? 959 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:27,440 I know. Gosh. 960 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,360 So after this, Prince William started enjoying his freedom and 961 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,000 partying with friends, living his bachelor life. 962 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,640 Meanwhile, the Duke of Edinburgh, Phillip Williams 963 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,840 grandfather allegedly actually even reached out to Kate and 964 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,960 told her that William would offer her a ring in the future 965 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,600 when the time is great. I thought you were going to say 966 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,280 the Duke of Edinburgh, like slid into Kate's DM was going to hit 967 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,400 her. That'd be crazy though. 968 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,040 What would you do if your boyfriend broke up with you, but 969 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,040 then his grandfather asked you out instead? 970 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,400 I feel like then it would be over, like there'd be no way to 971 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,080 come. If you accept that, yeah. 972 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,080 That's so meddlesome though. Why is he messaging or writing 973 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,160 to Kate? I know it's not even adamant 974 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,520 Dad, it's his grandfather. It's like please stay out of 975 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,880 this. Maybe they thought there was 976 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,560 just like so much money to lose with this. 977 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,640 I know. I think they really liked Kate. 978 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,000 They're like, oh, OK, She's like you said, keeps her cards close 979 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,480 to her trust. Like she's not going to cause 980 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,680 any issues for us. Yeah. 981 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,440 To distract from the heartbreak, Kate put all of her energy into 982 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,880 training for a charity rowing event with her girlfriends. 983 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,720 However, apparently by the time the race came up, she and 984 00:54:47,720 --> 00:54:51,680 William were back together and she pulled out of the race. 985 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,720 Oh my, if I was her girlfriend, she. 986 00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:58,280 Didn't do it. If I was her girlfriend so I got 987 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:03,600 dragged into a rowing event because her and her ex broke up 988 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,640 and then she pulled out of the race at the last minute, I'd be 989 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,720 pissed. Because they got back together, 990 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,920 but apparently. What you can still do and. 991 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,160 Apparently the reason she dropped out is because of the 992 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,880 media attention and that she was worried that the practices were 993 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,960 a magnet for paparazzi. But like, honestly, it's for 994 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,520 charity. Don't you want the spotlight on 995 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,520 it? You know, true to like. 996 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,040 And it makes you look really athletic. 997 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,120 And cool, I bet if they didn't get back together she still 998 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,240 would have done it because then William would see the photos in 999 00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:44,200 the magazines and be like, whoa, Kate is, you know, in a rowing 1000 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:45,920 charity event. Wow. 1001 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,400 So years later in their engagement interview, they're 1002 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,920 actually asked about this time when they broke up, and I want 1003 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,320 to show a clip first. You've been going out a bit and 1004 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,080 you split up famously all over the papers. 1005 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,880 What was all that about? I mean, people are bound to want 1006 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,640 to know. Well, I think to be honest, I 1007 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,240 wouldn't read over, I wouldn't believe everything you read in 1008 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:11,160 the paper. But, you know, in that 1009 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,520 particular instance we did, we did split up for a bit, but that 1010 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,000 was just, you know, we were both very young. 1011 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,080 It was at university and we were, we were sort of both 1012 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,760 finding ourselves as such and being, you know, different 1013 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,120 characters and stuff. It was very much trying to find 1014 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,880 our own way and, and we were growing up. 1015 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,160 And so it was just sort of, you know, a bit of space and a bit 1016 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,080 of things like that. And it's been worked out for the 1017 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,680 better. And I think at the time I wasn't 1018 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,240 very happy about it, but actually it made me a stronger 1019 00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:38,960 person. You find out things about 1020 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,000 yourself that maybe you hadn't realized or I think you can get 1021 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,440 quite consumed by a relationship when you're younger. 1022 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,760 And you know, I really, I really valued that time for me as well, 1023 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,120 although I didn't think it at the time. 1024 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,920 Looking back on it, I there's a. Chance to resent? 1025 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:54,960 Yourself. Definitely. 1026 00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:02,000 Yeah, this is all bad. Wow they look so young in that. 1027 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,520 How long ago was that video? I think that's like 2010, so 14 1028 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,160 years ago. He still had hair. 1029 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,880 It was kind of crazy to see. I know appreciate her honesty. 1030 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,320 Yeah, I was really impressed that she said that. 1031 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,040 But she still was very professional and had like a 1032 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,720 positive spin on it. I we've talked about it like how 1033 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,520 many times is too many times to break up for a couple? 1034 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,720 But when you are young, sometimes you do have to have 1035 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:32,280 those breakups to reaffirm that you do want to be together. 1036 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,200 It's tough, and especially if you are so young and you had 1037 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,520 spent so much time together, sometimes you do need those 1038 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,560 breakups to spend time by yourself to figure out who you 1039 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,480 are and then come back together. And she kind of mentioned that, 1040 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,960 like figure out who you are as a person. 1041 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,800 She needed that time. I mean, maybe she didn't need 1042 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,480 that. Like she said, she didn't really 1043 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,680 think that at the time, but looking back, maybe she did. 1044 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,880 Well, your early 20s too, that is such a young age to 1045 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,480 potentially never be single ever again if you do get married to 1046 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,000 this person. So yeah, it is good to have that 1047 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,640 time to just, you know, be single for the last couple times 1048 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,760 or months of your life and make sure that that's what you want. 1049 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:19,080 So now 2008 and it's March and the couple go on their annual 1050 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,120 ski trip, though Charles didn't attend in order to his reduce 1051 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,000 his carbon footprint, which I only included because that came 1052 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,320 up in our Charles and Camilla episode that he is very big into 1053 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,840 the environment. Wow, where did they? 1054 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,400 Used to go about him. Where did they used to go 1055 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,680 skiing? Just in the Swiss Alps. 1056 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:43,080 So and then on April 11th Prince William finished his Air Force 1057 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:47,280 training and received his Air Force wings from his father 1058 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,680 Prince Charles at a ceremony and Kate attended it. 1059 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,960 But apparently William drew criticism when he flew and 1060 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,560 landed his Royal Air Force helicopter into Kate's parents 1061 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,160 garden, which prompted people to get upset over the misuse of 1062 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,960 military resources for the royal family's personal use, 1063 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,440 especially during a time of war. And it just like reignited this 1064 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,240 whole debate about royal members and whether they should even be 1065 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,600 in the military. Well, I I thought. 1066 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:22,320 Did he ruin the garden as well? I don't know if it's like the 1067 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,120 garden is. The garden must be massive for 1068 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,440 him to land A helicopter, no? I think they mean like garden as 1069 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,840 in like lawn. That's what they say over there. 1070 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,000 OK, yeah, but I imagined him landing like on the flowers and 1071 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:39,200 the propellers, like making all the dirt cascade everywhere. 1072 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,320 No. But my question is, is he just 1073 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,840 doing all this training for like nothing? 1074 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,960 Like what is this for, you know? Yeah, that's a good question. 1075 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,600 It's tradition. It's. 1076 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,360 Tradition, but. Yeah. 1077 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:57,160 So he does more military service in years than the traditional, 1078 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,760 than the a royal member traditionally would. 1079 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,800 And actually he started being labeled as a reluctant royal or 1080 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,880 reluctant figurehead because of that. 1081 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,760 I think I'll. Some of it it's just like duty 1082 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,000 to country. Like he did really want to 1083 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,320 actually like fight combat. Obviously in his position that 1084 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,920 was like never going to happen. But I don't think like other 1085 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,240 than being a member of the royal family, he kind of has his own 1086 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,160 career and as a Prince and then eventual king that's been chosen 1087 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,040 for him. So I do think like being in the 1088 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:31,280 military is kind of like a source of independence and 1089 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,280 autonomy for him in a sense, because he can like kind of 1090 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,520 build his career here, even though it's still pretty limited 1091 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,120 what he can do you. Know like what he does in the 1092 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,600 military? So it's mostly training that he 1093 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,360 does, but then later on he becomes a search and rescue 1094 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:49,960 pilot. Oh, interesting. 1095 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,320 I'm curious. I'm curious why I I can't agree 1096 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,680 with the fact that he probably shouldn't be using military 1097 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,600 helicopters to visit his girlfriend, but I'm curious why 1098 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,480 people would think would come to the conclusion that the royal 1099 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,960 shouldn't be in the military. I don't, I don't get. 1100 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,480 That I know because you would think you would want them like 1101 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,840 you're like, OK, if I'm paying their tax dollars, they do 1102 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,080 something. Yeah, yeah. 1103 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,360 I think. I think it kind of bothers 1104 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,200 people that like they are in the military, but they don't really 1105 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,800 do the same level of service as other people. 1106 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,160 So it's kind of like for show in a way. 1107 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,840 Yeah, yeah. But it could be, like, good for 1108 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:32,440 morale in a way, like, oh, the Prince is here. 1109 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:33,280 Like, I don't know. Yeah. 1110 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,760 And I think it brings attention to what's happening with 1111 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,280 soldiers and everything. Maybe, I don't know. 1112 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,680 Also, they might not feel like, oh, nobody cares about us, you 1113 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,080 know, like our country doesn't even care that we're out here. 1114 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,320 Like, if someone from the royal family is involved, I think it 1115 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:49,640 could feel good. Yeah. 1116 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,560 I. I'd be curious to look more into 1117 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,920 it and hear what some British people have to say about it. 1118 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,360 We don't really have that in our country. 1119 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,960 No, we don't. Know like the people who are 1120 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,000 like, like the president or something, maybe they had served 1121 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,000 previously, but they're not like actively serving. 1122 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:11,040 Yeah, we don't have anyone like born into these roles. 1123 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,720 No, yeah. But OK, so then in May there is 1124 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:19,480 a royal wedding, but it's William's oldest cousin Peter 1125 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,320 who's getting married. And William is actually not able 1126 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,080 to attend the wedding because he has already accepted the 1127 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:31,200 invitation to attend his ex Jeka, her brother's wedding in 1128 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,600 Kenya. Oh my gosh. 1129 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,200 So he doesn't go to his cousin's wedding. 1130 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,880 Instead, Kate goes in his place. She stands in for him at the 1131 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,760 wedding. And he goes by himself to Jeka's 1132 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,600 brother's wedding. Yeah, I would not like that. 1133 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,640 No, that's crazy. I guess Jeka is just a good 1134 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,400 friend, but I don't know. Who's his cousin related to? 1135 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,120 Like which side? Like Diana's or his dad? 1136 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,760 His dad's side, so she's standing in for him at the 1137 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,640 wedding, which showed how comfortable she felt in this 1138 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,680 family and how highly regarded she was by the Queen. 1139 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,120 But there are also reports at this time that the Queen is 1140 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,520 concerned with Kate not really having a career. 1141 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,360 And apparently she asked her advisors what is it exactly that 1142 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,960 Kate does, Which is kind of a fair question. 1143 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,440 The Queen I'm. Surprised she cares. 1144 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,960 So much the Queen called Kate jobless and. 1145 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,520 Yes. Yeah, get a job. 1146 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,520 She's like. Yeah, literally, because to the 1147 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,600 public, it appears like Kate is just going on these long 1148 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,920 holidays. She's always photographed either 1149 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,880 skiing or in the Caribbean with her family or on vacations with 1150 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,320 William. And at this time, Britain is in 1151 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,560 a recession. So the Queen is concerned that 1152 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,240 such frivolous displays of wealth are really off putting. 1153 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,360 This influencer. Yeah, literally she doesn't 1154 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,400 really work, but in her defense it would be hard to have a full 1155 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,760 time job with the constant media attention. 1156 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,520 And she, I'm guessing she would have to give it up eventually 1157 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,600 anyway. So why should she work so hard 1158 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,320 to like, climb up the corporate ladder or something And then? 1159 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,400 Exactly. Yeah, that's so true. 1160 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,080 That would be such a waste. And she also does have a lot of 1161 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,400 money, so. But she really took this 1162 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,920 personally. She did not like that they were 1163 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,280 saying this about her. So Kate's inner circle, this is 1164 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,320 like one of the few times that Kate has like kind of responded 1165 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,720 to something. Her inner circle responded to 1166 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,800 the tabloids and claimed that she was working full time for 1167 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,520 her parents company, although I'm not really sure if that's 1168 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,720 true. And within days, her parents 1169 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,000 company posted a black and white image to their website, like 1170 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,120 about their team. But then it was removed. 1171 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,760 And the queen suggested that Kate should just affiliate 1172 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,680 herself with charities. Like, OK, don't, don't try to 1173 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,200 like, pretend you're working for your parents company. 1174 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,600 Like just do some charity work. That's kind of embarrassing not 1175 01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:02,840 Oh my God. Hey mom and dad, can you like 1176 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:07,120 post a headshot of me on your website to show that like for. 1177 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:08,480 You. Yeah. 1178 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,520 Then in June, William was knighted by his grandmother 1179 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,800 Queen Elizabeth in a royal ceremony in which he receives 1180 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,160 the Royal Night of the Garter title and Kate is in attendance. 1181 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,880 And then afterwards he begins his Royal Navy training, 1182 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,440 continuing this long distance with Kate. 1183 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,640 And then once again in July, Kate stands in for William at a 1184 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:32,000 royal wedding, this time for his second cousin Lady Rose Windsor, 1185 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,960 as William is away doing his training in the Caribbean. 1186 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:40,240 And then in September, William returns home and is expected to 1187 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,840 become a full time royal. However, however, he shocks the 1188 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,760 palace when, as I mentioned, he decides to stay in the Air Force 1189 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,920 and become a search and rescue pilot. 1190 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,480 And in doing this, he is seen as, like I said, a reluctant 1191 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,640 figurehead. And it kind of seems like he's 1192 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,240 trying to postpone his royal duties. 1193 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,640 You know he's not that close in line to the throne. 1194 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:06,120 That's the rush. Yeah, I guess the only thing is 1195 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:10,560 the Queen is getting older, so she can't do as much traveling 1196 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,480 anymore. So Charles is already doing, you 1197 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,520 know, his share. But it's kind of like time for 1198 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,360 William to start doing some of that while the queen can kind of 1199 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,760 take a break. And his decision just as much 1200 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,960 shocks Kate because she didn't necessarily expect to be a 1201 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,520 military girlfriend. And this also means that they're 1202 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,960 going to have to wait a little bit longer for them to even 1203 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,040 begin planning their future together and planning having a 1204 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,400 family or getting married. What was she thinking when she 1205 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,280 was at all these ceremonies? I know. 1206 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:41,560 Yeah. I guess you thought that he 1207 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,960 would just like, do the training and then be like, OK, now I'm 1208 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,000 gonna do just be a Prince. I guess so. 1209 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,760 I know it's upsetting everybody, but I'm glad. 1210 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,640 I'm kind of glad that he decided to do this. 1211 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,080 I'm I'm guessing he does. Upset me, I'm does happy to 1212 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,800 think for a little bit doing something. 1213 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,160 I'd rather he'd do more. Than less, yeah. 1214 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,880 What's the point of doing training and then just nothing 1215 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,400 with the training, You know? I guess they can use him in case 1216 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,160 there's a war and they need people or. 1217 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,000 Something, yeah, we need all the extra bodies. 1218 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,400 We completely run out. We really need Prince William. 1219 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,480 That's how dire the situation. Planting all this, all this 1220 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,320 training and then you don't use. It I know. 1221 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,920 Seriously. So then it's 2009 and Kate 1222 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,840 Middleton. Poor Kate, she has this crazy 1223 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:37,240 uncle, Gary Goldsmith, who is, this is her mom, Carole brother. 1224 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,800 And I guess he's this mega millionaire. 1225 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:41,800 He's an entrepreneur. Oh my God. 1226 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,680 But Rick, he's kind of crazy though. 1227 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:49,600 And in July 2009, to Katie's horror, he invited undercover 1228 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,240 reporters to his villa. And while they're there, he's 1229 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,040 just like snorting cocaine with €100 bill. 1230 01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,680 And he just blabbed about William and Kate. 1231 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,800 I don't think he really said anything too salacious or crazy. 1232 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,520 I don't actually think they had much to hide, but he does tell 1233 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,920 the reporters that Kate and William are planning to get 1234 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,480 married at the end of that year, which was not true. 1235 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:17,120 Yeah, So I don't know what he's thinking, but Kate was super 1236 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,279 embarrassed. And also just the fact that she 1237 01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:22,439 has this crazy uncle who's like doing coke in front of reporters 1238 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,120 and stuff. And all that coke, Yeah. 1239 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,479 Just adding a little stuff like that can like flare up in the 1240 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,840 press. But both William and Charles 1241 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,800 assured her that it will all blow over and it's no big deal. 1242 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,600 And it did. But still, the Middleton family 1243 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,520 abruptly took off to the Caribbean to escape and go on 1244 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,160 vacation to as a natural reaction when something like 1245 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:48,080 that happens, you go on vacation impromptly. 1246 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,160 To the Caribbean to hide the fact that the uncle does coke. 1247 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,840 Yeah, so. Are wedding bells coming up? 1248 01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:02,760 Not yet. Wait, William, our it's 2009. 1249 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,279 So Kate and William are still pretty far from getting engaged. 1250 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,920 He just signed up for 18 months of training in the Air Force, 1251 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,160 though he at this time, he's assuring her that they are 1252 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:17,240 serious and that it's not a question of if, but when. 1253 01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:20,120 And during this time, they see each other on the weekends. 1254 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,040 But it's still tough and isolating for Kate because at 1255 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:27,160 this time, most of her friends have gotten married or engaged. 1256 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:32,439 And so, you know, she's not really like living the the life 1257 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:33,760 that they lived in their early 20s. 1258 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,040 Like, I'm still able to like, go out and do her own thing. 1259 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,279 She's at this time is getting a little impatient or just 1260 01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:41,359 curious, like, is this actually going to happen? 1261 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,680 And the press starts calling her weighty Katie. 1262 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,520 Then in the fall of that year, 2009, it's come out that the 1263 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,080 Queen does need Harry and William to do more royal 1264 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,400 engagements because she is getting old and she cannot 1265 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,160 travel as much. So William, unfortunately, does 1266 01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:02,480 have to take a step back from the military and he's just got 1267 01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:05,800 to do what he's got to do. He sucks it up and does his 1268 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,680 Prince stuff. January of the next year, he 1269 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:12,360 goes on a publicity tour to New Zealand and Australia. 1270 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,800 And while in Australia, an elderly woman asked him if he 1271 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,400 plans to marry Kate. And he responded with a laugh 1272 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,480 and said, as I keep saying, just wait and see. 1273 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,720 I know, I feel bad. They're getting a lot of 1274 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,280 pressure. This is like us. 1275 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,640 Normally normal people get this, but this is magnified. 1276 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,760 It's been so many years, what's with all the coy answers and 1277 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,000 stuff, you know? It's. 1278 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,960 Like, yeah. I know at this point just cut 1279 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,560 Kate loose, you know? But remember when Kristen 1280 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,800 Stewart went on Howard Stern's podcast and he said, like, you 1281 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,560 going to marry her about her girlfriend at the time and who's 1282 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,480 now her fiance? And she was like, yes, yes, if 1283 01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:55,400 you're a public person and you're asked that, you're really 1284 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,720 put on the spot. There's no good way to answer it 1285 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,600 because if you say yes, you're just kind of like maybe giving 1286 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:05,480 up the surprise too, or, you know, causing all this noise 1287 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,880 even further. Yikes. 1288 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,360 Like he's probably like, hold off on the China guy. 1289 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,720 Really, we don't need that. Yet I wonder what happened to 1290 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,240 all that China from before. I don't know they're. 1291 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,120 Still holding on to. It Yeah. 1292 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,640 So at this time, Kate and William seem to be growing 1293 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,840 closer than ever, but there is just an intense amount of 1294 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,080 pressure also from their families as well. 1295 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,000 Kate's mother, Carol, apparently is getting increasingly 1296 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,520 concerned that her daughter is 28 without a ring on her finger. 1297 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:33,840 That's not that old. But. 1298 01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,560 Mom's worst nightmare? Apparently, apparently Kate's 1299 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:41,960 mom is, like, kind of not a social climber, but she is very 1300 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,160 caught up in Kate's relationship with William at this time. 1301 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,320 She really wants Kate to, like, secure the bag. 1302 01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:50,640 She doesn't want her to be so close to potentially being a 1303 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,560 Princess and then having it fall through. 1304 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,200 So then in October, Yeah, Yeah. I mean, that'd be crazy. 1305 01:11:56,440 --> 01:11:59,880 Then in October, Kate's mother would not need to wait for much 1306 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:04,000 longer because while on a trip to Kenya, William flew Kate up 1307 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:08,440 to the high slopes of Mount Kenya and standing on the shores 1308 01:12:08,440 --> 01:12:13,080 of the mountain with a view of the glacial lakes at over 12,000 1309 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:18,360 feet, he popped the question. And he proposed with his 1310 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:22,240 mother's engagement ring, which was a 12 cut sapphire ring 1311 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:26,200 surrounded by 14 diamonds and an 18 karat white gold. 1312 01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:29,560 And this is October. And then a couple weeks later, 1313 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:33,040 the couple officially announced their engagement on November 1314 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,960 16th, 2010. And here is a little interview 1315 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,640 clip of them talking about it. Kate, people are obviously 1316 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,920 incredibly curious about you. So let's start with the obvious. 1317 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,160 William, where did you propose? When, how? 1318 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,880 And Kate, what did you say? It was about 3 weeks ago on a 1319 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,240 holiday in Kenya. We had a little private time 1320 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,840 away together with some friends and I just decided that it was 1321 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,880 the right time really. We've been talking about about 1322 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,640 marriage for a while, so it wasn't a massively big surprise, 1323 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,080 but I took her up somewhere nice in in Kenya and and proposed 1324 01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:09,640 It's very. Romantic. 1325 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,920 There's a true romantic in that there is. 1326 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,800 So yes, of. Course, yes, Yeah. 1327 01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:17,760 Absolutely. And you knew you were going to 1328 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,600 do this from day one of the whole day or you you waited till 1329 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:21,720 the end. I've been planning it for a 1330 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,680 while, but as every guy out there will know, it's a, it 1331 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,680 takes a certain amount of motivation to get yourself 1332 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,720 going. So I was planning it and then it 1333 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,840 just felt really right out in, in Africa. 1334 01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,520 It was beautiful at the time and I just, I had done a little bit 1335 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,280 of planning to obviously share my romantic side. 1336 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,520 OK, you've been on holiday a while, so did you see this 1337 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,440 coming? Was he getting a bit nervous and 1338 01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:42,680 jumpy? No, not at all. 1339 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,000 No, Because you know, we were out there with friends and 1340 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,040 things, so I really didn't expect it at all. 1341 01:13:47,480 --> 01:13:50,600 I thought he might have sort of maybe thought about it, but no, 1342 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,160 it was a total shock when it came and very excited. 1343 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,080 And produced the rain. Yeah, there and then. 1344 01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,360 I did, yeah. I've been carrying it around 1345 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:03,120 with me in my rucksack for about 3 weeks before that, and I 1346 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:04,280 literally would not let it go ever. 1347 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,080 I went, I was keeping a hold of it because I knew this thing, if 1348 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,320 it disappeared, I've been in a lot of trouble. 1349 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,480 And yeah, because I planned it, sort of. 1350 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,840 It went fine. As you know, you'll hear a lot 1351 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,520 of horror stories about proposing and things get 1352 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,200 horribly wrong. It went really, really well. 1353 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:17,920 And yeah, I was really pleased that she said yes. 1354 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,480 And it's a family ring. It is a family ring, yes, it's 1355 01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:22,920 my mother's engagement ring. So I thought it was quite nice 1356 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,080 because obviously she's not been around to share any of the the 1357 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,840 fun and excitement at all. That's this is my way of keeping 1358 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,800 her sort of close to it all. Interesting. 1359 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,840 But I'm confused because I thought Kenya was like him and 1360 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:41,840 Janka's place or whatever. Janka, what's her? 1361 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,600 Janka Jacka. Jacka. 1362 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,640 No, I had the same thought. Why did he have to do it in his 1363 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,880 and Jacka's place? I know. 1364 01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,200 He's like fixed and I know he loves Kenya and maybe that's why 1365 01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:00,560 he loved Jacka just cuz like he associates her with Kenya but. 1366 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,400 Maybe. Makes you worry, you know? 1367 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:04,320 Is it? Yeah. 1368 01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:05,920 Is he still caught up on her? Oh. 1369 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,400 Now I'm intrigued. Well, I would be a little. 1370 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,600 Annoyed. They said in the clip that they 1371 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,720 were out with friends and I want to wonder if Jacka was one of 1372 01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,120 the friends that they were out with. 1373 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,640 Maybe. Could make sense because they 1374 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,280 were in Kenya unless they brought a whole crew with them 1375 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,200 to Kenya. Yeah, I don't know. 1376 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:24,880 I. Thought it was funny. 1377 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,640 He said something about like working up the courage and she 1378 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,640 turned and like looked at the journalist. 1379 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,800 She, I don't know, I just feel like she had the reaction to 1380 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,440 that, like, oh, really had to work up the courage. 1381 01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:38,960 Like it was, it's been years. I don't know, maybe reading too. 1382 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,160 Far into it and he was like, oh, it wasn't too big of a surprise 1383 01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,400 because we've been talking about it, but seems like a little bit 1384 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,920 of a surprise, I'd say. Wow, it's official. 1385 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:50,960 It's official. I remember this. 1386 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,840 I because honestly, they weren't really on my radar until they 1387 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,920 got engaged. I actually don't remember them 1388 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:03,120 until like their wedding was upon us and like I just. 1389 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,400 You were pretty young. I mean, you were like 10 years 1390 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:06,560 old. I was really young. 1391 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,680 But I remember, like, I remember when it was like, oh, the royal 1392 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,880 weddings, like coming up. And then I watched it like live 1393 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,240 on TV and then they had like, DVDs of it. 1394 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,640 But I don't really remember the whole proposal of it all. 1395 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,240 Me neither. I remember it was. 1396 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,000 Of course we're Americans. Yeah, but it was still a big 1397 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:26,400 deal. Like we always got People 1398 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:30,120 magazine in my house and and then people started doing this 1399 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,880 thing where any story about the Royals, like there would be like 1400 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:38,080 a special title like the Royals and the royal coverage just at 1401 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,080 the time seemed to just pick up more and more. 1402 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,480 And I feel like it never really stopped their engagement, like 1403 01:16:42,480 --> 01:16:46,480 really sparked, it seems, huge interest in them that I just 1404 01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:49,600 maybe wasn't aware of as a kid. I mean, I'm sure there was a 1405 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,760 huge interest in them, like with Diana and everything, but I feel 1406 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,960 like it just kind of made people excited internationally. 1407 01:16:56,440 --> 01:17:00,200 I think it made people excited all over again because before it 1408 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:04,640 was like, yeah, it was the excitement of, oh, Diana and 1409 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,960 Charles got married, and then they have their babies and they 1410 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,680 have their kids. And it was exciting when, like, 1411 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,960 Diana was alive. But then after she died, the 1412 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,200 only excitement was like, yeah, William and Harry are growing 1413 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,160 up, but like, that's not that exciting. 1414 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,560 But having like a wedding on the horizon, oh, you know, that's 1415 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,000 something. Yeah, and these big bro 1416 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:29,360 weddings, it's almost like a huge holiday and it's a huge 1417 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:33,160 money maker for them to like. They sell so many different 1418 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:38,320 memorabilias associated with it. People travel and it's huge 1419 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,440 publicity, yeah. In the interview, Kate also 1420 01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:44,800 revealed that William had asked her father for permission for 1421 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:50,840 her hand in marriage. And that is where we will stop 1422 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,920 for now. Oh my gosh, you're leaving us on 1423 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:58,520 a cliffhanger. Do they get married? 1424 01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:03,920 Does Jacka read? I know. 1425 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,760 Does she? Or Carly the country. 1426 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:11,160 Bumpkin with the big ass? What about Finch, the older 1427 01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,520 senior that Kate was dating her freshman year? 1428 01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,360 Oh yeah? And what about Pippa? 1429 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,640 What's up with her? I know she really became a 1430 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:23,280 celebrity around this. It's funny, she actually became 1431 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,640 known for her ass as well. Not to objectify but I remember 1432 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:31,200 like is she at the wedding? This is really for the next 1433 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:35,840 episode, but she was, you know, the maid of honor was helping 1434 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,200 Kate with her train and all the photos were are dressed of like 1435 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,640 her butt backside. Can't wait. 1436 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,120 People were like. Whoa. 1437 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,560 Pippa stole the show, but Pippa? Such a cute name. 1438 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,400 I know. Thanks, Mel. 1439 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,600 Oh my God, thank you. So impressed. 1440 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:52,280 So impressed with all your research. 1441 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:55,200 I know I knew pretty much absolutely none of this, 1442 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,120 honestly. Well, thank you guys for 1443 01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,000 listening. And yeah, we'll get back 1444 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,320 together next week with more Kate and William on the Patreon. 1445 01:19:03,440 --> 01:19:06,160 I wonder if there's going to be like any coincidences that are 1446 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:07,600 going to happen. What do you mean? 1447 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,200 Coincidence. Like you know when you posted 1448 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:13,480 the Charles and Charles and. And Camilla. 1449 01:19:13,480 --> 01:19:15,600 And then the Camilla. The Queen died. 1450 01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:19,200 Which sucked cause in the episode we were like the queen 1451 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,760 is never gonna die and then she. Could die. 1452 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:27,280 And then we just posted the Nina and Ian and Nina got engaged 1453 01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,440 literally the day of so. Crazy. 1454 01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:33,920 I know I think there's been other things too, so I wonder if 1455 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:34,640 there's. Gonna be anything. 1456 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,240 Things are really things are really In Sync with this show, I 1457 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,560 know. Yeah, like you, You seeing? 1458 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,280 Oh, why am with the Ronson? Yes, Samantha Ronson when you're 1459 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,880 researching Samantha Ronson like. 1460 01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:51,680 So. Weird works in mysterious ways 1461 01:19:52,440 --> 01:19:55,440 but especially with the Royals. Like now I'm nervous like there 1462 01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:57,560 could be nothing. Especially since doesn't King 1463 01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,480 Charles like have cancer or something? 1464 01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,840 Oh God, Gage. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 1465 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,920 I'm sorry. That's really morbid, but like, 1466 01:20:05,480 --> 01:20:08,120 it's just so hopefully. Not hope. 1467 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,480 Hopefully nothing bad happens. No, Hopefully. 1468 01:20:11,480 --> 01:20:14,200 Knock on wood. But maybe like Camilla will get 1469 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:19,720 pregnant or something. Camilla, my God, that would be 1470 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,600 truly a miracle. Maybe Kate will get pregnant 1471 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,640 again, who knows? I don't know. 1472 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,760 Yeah. Anyways, guys, thank you so much 1473 01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:32,160 for listening and yeah, more to come next week with this. 1474 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,800 Lovely couple, we'll get back together next week. 1475 01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:48,560 Get back together next week. Shall I come back again? 1476 01:20:51,520 --> 01:21:02,080 Tell me, Dee, how are you? Lonesome to.