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Hi, Welcome to our show. Welcome to significant lovers
yet I'm Melissa. I'm Kelly.
Wait, I'm Mel sorry I always introduce myself as Melissa and
then I get stuck as Melissa. So Mel, you know, call me Mel
and kelan kelan. And yeah, you might know us from
the podcast, another bite of Twilight.
Where For almost four years. We looked back at our obsession
with the Twilight Saga and we had a lot of fun.
I still can't believe that we ended it for now.
For now we might come back randomly, the future.
And so you guys might here, if you're not a listener of
Twilight, a lot of Twilight just brought into the conversation
every now. And then, I hope you're okay
with that were a Twilight friendly podcast, but if you
hate, I've never seen no worries because it won't be too much.
And also if you maybe want to check out our old podcast,
another bite our light, we have fun with it.
We did we would laugh Adit Adit and with it with yeah because we
loved it. And some criticism of course and
so on our current podcast, we're now going to be talking about
exactly as it says Nificant members throughout history and
pop culture. So like we're really just
focusing on other people's love lives and getting down to like
the Nitty Gritty of. Like what happened?
Yeah, just the whole time. I'm the juicy details.
Yes. Things that people don't know.
Yeah, things that people do know but talking about them.
Yeah, yeah and it was like, yes, we're going to do a whole Range
of couples. I like I said, other people's
relationships relationships. Yeah, because I do ours,
honestly, my whole life. I've always been so fascinated
by other people's relationships. And I think that's like a form
of escapism, like not having to focus on your own.
But even in real life, like I was outlining to Kelly and her
sister a couple weeks ago like my perception of like The
relationship between our cousins like X baby mama.
Well I guess current baby. Mama baby mamas relationship
with her like second, baby. Daddy here.
Oh yeah, yeah, I just love that stuff, but I love to sew in from
the outside interpreted honestly, to be honest.
What if someone did that with my love life?
I'd be flattered. Not my mom, mom, not you.
But anybody else means you. Yeah, who wouldn't be?
Ya? Did it never mind.
What didn't you like years ago? Save, like pictures of me and my
ex boyfriend, to your computer or something?
I don't know. I think you were still in high
school maybe. Oh, that sounds so familiar but
I don't think I don't know what I would have done that.
I don't know. I'm so familiar.
I did, but I don't know why. So I'll just remember.
Yeah. And speaking of we are cousins
would be say that. Oh, I didn't say that cousins
were first cousins. Maternal, cousin.
Yes. Some people say we look alike.
Yep. Some people say we sound
similar. Yes.
So if that's confusing for you just give it a few episodes.
Yeah. We'll figure it out.
My life is pretty inverted. So if you're like a, that's
going to be manager like figure that out because describing it
that way. That's what.
Oh, I don't like a type of laughs.
I think so. Yeah.
Cuz it's like you're And word. So first episode first day on
set. Yeah, first day, and it's
kidding, it's a fun episode. So the way that the show is
going to work, is instead of us both researching a couple one of
us will take the wheel each episode and do the research,
share, everything we learned and teach the other one stuff, and
we're going to have half of our episodes, totally free, anyone
can download them, and listen and then the Second half of our
episodes will be on patreon. Those will be exclusively other
week and like the difference between those is like the main
episode is like longer relationships.
I think. And the patreon episodes are
either like flings or like couples who are like newly
dating like in the yeah. Right now, we're like, people
who are just have, like, less extensive relationships, but
maybe like are forgotten about. Yeah.
They'll probably still be. On phone.
Yeah, they're not they're not many the not gonna be like 15
minutes. Yeah, even 30 minute know.
Yeah. But they won't be.
Yeah. Like the super long
relationships like yeah. And you know, I'm sorry that
sorry that they're not all going to be free.
I know. You know, we're trying to make
this a thing. Yeah.
So it seems like I want to buy
something to like make the Acoustics like the thing you
made. But it's better but we don't
have any money for it. No.
Yeah. So so if you want to support the
podcast and if you can get sounds terrible.
Yeah. You're like gee this pocket has
potential but it's not there. Yeah.
Then you can subscribe to our teaching and then we'll get it
there. Yeah.
True also I hope you like DIY quality.
Exactly. Yeah.
You know, just really don't have a producer.
Like there's no company. No, I'm telling us what to say?
This is Real. Yeah.
The truth.
Yeah.
Well actually I guess we should say we don't know.
These people were talking about oh that's so true.
We don't know them so like anything we say is purely
speculative like if we're things are probably a confirmed if
you're the arising. Yeah and like this this episode
in particular there's going to be some theories that were going
to discuss. Really?
Yes. Also just so you guys know we're
recording this on June 27th 2020.
Me too. So anything that we say about
this couple that comes out after the fact, you're listening from
the past. Wow, deep below recovering today
is B.j. Novak Mindy Kaling.
Wow. I just blanked on her.
Last musical in your calling Catelynn?
Right. It's utterly texting legs
earlier when we were doing, is like a million times and
everyone's like, what? There are a couple that yes,
they are a couple. How will they were a couple?
They just don't know. So we're gonna get into it.
Wow, you don't know, they are two stars and writers from the
office, and they are both Massachusetts.
Natives, why is that significant?
So are we we're also from Massachusetts.
So BJ was born in Newton Mass and Mindy is from Cambridge
Mass, which is least live there. And those are pretty close.
If you guys don't know and Yeah, they're born only one month
apart the same year. They're like right next to each
other. Yeah, I didn't even.
Yeah. And so they probably like cross
paths, you know, at some point. What year were they?
Born 1979 and they're both Wicked smart.
Mnd went to Dartmouth College in New Hampshire, and BJ went to
Harvard and Cambridge. My God, he went to school in
Cambridge for Mindy is from. Oh, my God.
So never met never met DJ stand for a Benjamin.
Let me see, I've been wondering this.
It could have looked it up. Blow job Benjamin Joseph and
even chose it Benjamin. Manly Novak is two middle names.
Wow, two last names. BJ.
Okay wait. I want to ask you.
I'm stealing this from travelpod cast.
Yeah, if you could describe this couple in three words, what
would you say? Oh, okay, I would say confusing.
I wasn't expecting that confusing.
I would say. Lifelong mmm.
And we chaotic. Okay, confusing lifelong
chaotic. What would you say from from the
outside looking in? Not having research thumb, is it
too tough? I would from have, I don't know
anything. Mmm, I would say mysterious.
Hmm. Friendship.
Okay. Yeah, that's so weird.
I don't know. Kind of, I don't know what a
word for this would be kind of like, missed chance or
something. Yeah, I don't know anything.
Okay, well, you're gonna live. Okay.
So, yeah, as you guys know, they met during the office back in
2005, they are both 24 years old and they were both writers and
actors on the office, which, you know, it's kind of easy
sometimes like fall With someone that you're working with because
you have no. Yeah, choice.
But to spend all the time with them.
So Mindy said, later in 2015, we became friends when we were
still super young and also, because we were working
sometimes 16-hour days at the office.
We did it for eight years. My God, that makes sense.
And I think BJ said I didn't attribute this Koba.
It's kind of, it's the kind of friendship when you, you have,
when you are embedded with someone that you can only get by
putting in that insane amount of Time with people and be.
They also said, no one including us ever.
Really knew is this dating? Is this not dating?
We were never really dating. We were never, really, not
dating. We didn't know.
No one knew. He said that it was okay.
He said it, he said it. And then in an AMA, like ask me
anything on Reddit, when asked who he was closes with on the
office. He said, I was closest with
Mindy Kaling and So the least closest Mindy, Kaling on a
minute-by-minute basis and I wouldn't trade it for the world.
Actually, I would trade it for the world.
What am I talking about? I'd trade it for a more
consistently positive relationship with Mindy Kaling.
She's the best and then. Okay.
Why was it - I know I saw I was a huge fan of the office, I
should say. And so actually, if you guys
haven't seen any office, which I'm sure a lot of most people
have their characters on The Office are inspired by a
supposedly their real-life relationship.
Yeah. It seems like just like a bad
sign because I know Kelly and Ryan have a very like toxic
off-and-on relationship where like she's super love with him.
Yeah. And like giddy over him and he
like hates her and just goes along with it.
Yeah. And he like can't stand her but
then when she moves on he like wants her back.
Yeah, he's kind of a tool and she's annoying.
How could they write those characters though?
About them. So I know.
It seems crazy. I know I know they both just
like, yeah, this is us. Let's act it out.
I know. I know, I know.
And can you imagine they're like in a fight and they have to,
like, make out on screen. But they are also because he was
a writer to. Yeah, exactly.
They're like inconsiderate yeah, role playing their own
relationship in a way. Yeah, but like a heightened
version of it must have been like oh where oh I think so.
I think everybody was aware my God.
So weird but okay here's a clip of BJ Novak in 2021 so well,
it's really recent, really recent talking about their time
together on the office. The series you had an on-again
off-again relationship with Mindy kaling's character and of
course in life. And I know you've been asked
about This a lot. So, forgive me for asking again,
in life, you had an on again, off, again, relationship to and
you're still very close. You're The Godfather to one of
her children to both to both children, great did having that
kind of on-again off-again romantic relationship, ever, get
in the way of the show. No, I mean, I think it fueled
the show in the sense that all of us were putting everything we
had into the show every day. So, if Mindy, and I had a fight
or an argument, Other writers were taking notes, you know, or
we would just improvise it on set.
So, you know, none of us had lives.
And I think that's why so many of us including me and Mindy
became so close. You know, you go home at 2 a.m.
or suddenly it's the weekend and you don't know anybody else.
So you just keep hanging out with everybody.
So you know, but yeah, she's she's one of the closest or the
closest person in my life to this day.
So you'd have a fight and then With that turn into the funny
version of the fight on the show.
Yeah, I mean, the whole reason, our character started dating on
the show is because people they couldn't get over this Dynamic.
We had in the writers room that I didn't even neither of us
realized was funny at all and other people would laugh and
shake their heads. And we'd say what and they'd say
you to you do, and then before we knew it, you know, they had
written written a Santa's as you know, this horrible partnership.
So Are you dating at the time? You know, I think like, like
Ryan and Kelly and like many people in their 20s, it depends
who you ask and what our you ask it at, right, right?
What was it? Like when you shot the final
episode of The Office, where you glad I was ending was a really
sad for you cracked. Yeah, it was hard.
I mean I think we were also ready to be done with it but
because it had been so grueling for so long.
But Two actually. I'm getting choked up now to
actually, like the last shot of that I filmed was literally This
would be a better moment on television Terry.
Like on the radio it's your eyes tearing up.
Yeah, I wish this were Barbara Walters in this world like a
famous moment but you know it was Mindy and I running off into
the sunset together. Now it was it was a horribly and
had a horribly dark under current, which was that I was
abandoning my baby that I had left at the wedding to run off
with her. But, you know, I remember it was
a sunset. It was Mindy.
And yeah, you know, it was the end, you know, it's sort of
like, all right, my God, what I think is crazy is he's like it
was Mindy and he's like crying. Yeah, you know what?
Just doesn't seem Like the, I don't know.
I think it's sweet that he's crying but like, it seems like
there's a lot to them. Yeah.
Why is he crying like if they
were just friends? Yeah, and they were all o on
great terms. I, we're just friends, that's
really cheap because various, I mean, even people who are more
than friends, don't cry. Okay.
Also I know, I don't know anything yet but if their
relationship was like Ryan and Kelly, I'm guessing it would be
kinda his fault. It didn't work out.
Yeah, could be wrong. No, it's weird that he's like
crying about it. You're exactly right.
So apparently they were off and on like as a romantic couple
from 2005 to 2007. But then in 2007 he officially
broke up with her. My God and she was really
heartbroken over it and she could like barely get out of bed
and like couldn't eat. But they stayed friends.
I think probably because I had too right?
Yeah. While working on the office.
Hmm. Then in 2008 according to a
blind item post it on young Hollywood John Krasinski.
Apparently asked the book, I don't know if this is true by
the way, these are like Anonymous emissions.
Mm-hmm. And I learned this one actually
through the fluently, forward podcast, John's Krasinski.
Apparently asked the both of them to plan his wedding, to
Emily Blunt, an attempt to get them back together.
Really, which is interesting because then in the episode,
they run, Away into the sunset together.
I do wedding. That's true.
So I don't know what happened. True.
The line item is as BJ's best friend.
John knew his pal never really got over Mindy.
They dated for for a long while but broke up over a year ago,
because of the difficulty of mixing work and romance, but
they're in love again, but get this then 2008.
Mindy starts dating. A writer named Benjamin.
Nugent who I couldn't find anything on this guy.
Truly nothing on this guy. That's okay.
But they were together. And they were together to till
2012. And he actually is like,
referenced in an episode of the office when Michael like, refers
to some random, like salesperson my name.
Really. Yeah, they say this guy's name.
Hmm. But honestly, maybe I didn't do
enough research on them but does not Mindy and BJ.
Exactly. That's something you guys need
the info. That's something about our
podcast is. We're really like Breaking it
down on a couple, by couple basis.
Mmm. So like, let's say we're
covering Taylor Swift. Yes.
You're not going to hear about Taylor Swift and like everybody
else. It's gonna be a killer search in
the person that we're talking about.
Yes, yes, it's the one relationship.
Hmm. Yeah.
And of course there's other characters that play.
Yeah, yeah. So if you guys want to Mindy and
Benjamin Nugent episode, you got it right?
They look up in 2012. Okay, and so that's kind of
timeline now. 2012 in July Mindy.
Tweets at BJ. Come home.
We'll listen to The Beatles and eat hers in and can you can
explain art to me. Oh my God, and he responds with
the wink Emoji. What?
So I come home. Yeah.
Come on. To the city.
Yeah, come home to your apartment.
Yeah. What does that mean?
That's super flirty winky face. And then in that same year,
Rainn Wilson gives an interview with vulture and says, to do an
imitation of Mindy. All you need to do is just be
constantly texting and saying, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God,
oh my God, and then looking up and going where his BJ.
Okay. Yeah.
Rainn Wilson, who plays something here?
Dwight on the office. Yep.
And then BJ tweets at Mindy in. 2012, text me back, please.
And then he responded by saying Hey babe, what's up?
And then he responded. Oh Ted and then she responded?
Oh text my bad and then he wrote actually this is easier.
Are you going to that thing this weekend?
What? Mmm.
Okay. Back then people did have
communicate over social media. Yeah true.
I would do it too. Young Facebook right on
somebody's wall. Yeah.
I know. It's so embarrassing.
Everybody say yeah you just go back and forth.
Each other's walls, you know, didn't like you couldn't see it
like lined up the wall to wall people called it.
Yeah. People don't even call it walls
and I know because when it became there's no timeline.
Yeah, tie line. Yeah, well I was cooler but you
know what, though? They're still doing these public
displays. I like cute seen us so it does
seem a little bit for show sometimes, but will God bless
also, BJ guest stars on the mend.
Project. And guys, I've actually never
seen it. Maybe these are.
And guys, like gonna admit that I guess, what?
A good show. I'm sure.
And by the way, I think Mindy Kaling is like a genius.
I love. Never have.
I ever seen it actually. Think you would love it.
It's so good. It's on Netflix.
It's like oh wait. It's a TV show.
Yeah, it seems like a young girl.
You don't thinking movie. Oh yeah, yeah, no it's really
good. I love it so much.
I should check. Check it out.
I should watch some the sex lives of college girls.
Like, oh yeah, didn't she produce that?
Yeah, I don't watch that. We have her book on the table.
My dad actually gave this to me. Um, is everyone hanging out
without me? And I remember wondering if he
was giving it to me because of the title and he thought, like,
oh Kelly is left out and they do, I love that.
Reading it in school and like literally laughing up like out
loud and she's so embarrassed. It is my, I know I actually
laughed a little bit reading earlier and she thanked b.j. and
her acknowledgement. Wait, what did she say
specifically? This is mean I wasn't supposed
to do research because it's not my couple but I wanted to just
like get in the movie. Yeah yeah.
Um so I just looked at the book and so she lists like all these
people and just a long Line of names thanking them.
And then this is the first paragraph, but she does lost a
lot of people before him. But then she says, BJ Novak was
a terrific friend and editor, giving me no sound notes.
Like, hey Mindy, I think you sound kind of racist here.
It would. I would really be careful about
not sounding racist in her book. That's all she said.
Okay. How many people did she think
that? Was it a lot?
Yeah, but didn't go into detail. Like, I'd like to thank my sweet
and funny friends who helped me with this they are.
And then just name name, okay? What rank like what rank and
what order is you think then I mean he's pretty far after all.
Okay. Okay.
I'm just saying there isn't much like personality with it, like
she says they are Jeremy Bronson Danny Chung Alexis Dean Lena
Dunham. Brent Forrester.
Dan Gore, Charlie. Grandy Steve Healy very Kemper,
Ellie Kemper Paul, Lieber stunt lieberstein, Daniel and mom.
Danielle Moffat, okay, that is like a couple more names and
then she says that about BJ. Okay.
So she gives bj like a lot of attention compared to everybody
else. She said but she only calls him
a terrific friend and editor but this was Like 2010 or something.
Did you say she was with that guy?
Yeah, she was in 2012. Did she think the guy in there
it? What's his name, Benjamin?
Which also Benjamin is actually be days real name.
Oh, that's confusing. Yeah.
Wait, Benjamin you didn't I feel kind of weird if I was Benjamin.
Oh my God. I think he's not in the
acknowledgement. Wow.
And I know the beginning is to her parents.
What I feel. I mean maybe you know, she
didn't know. Like is it gonna work out?
I mean, I figured I'd be wearing if I was Benjamin and you're
like dating somebody, you're dating someone and their ex
gets. Yeah, thank you in the
acknowledgements but not carrier.
Yeah. Wow.
Barry. Oh wow.
And she does think him, I mean I know she did.
I don't know. Maybe it's just the book because
a lot of it's about like friendships and stuff but she
left like all her friends first. Yeah, then BJ, then like her
family and like editors, it's so significant.
She also does we should mention. She has a second book as well
which I think I do but I don't know if she thinks him but
that's it. Probably that's very
interesting. Hmm.
So I don't know, I think when BJ does guest star on The Mindy
Project, he plays a love interest and they do like, make
out and stuff, but I'm not positive, I should know it.
But I think he does. This is so interesting.
So then also in 2012, they had a Lakers game, there's no video
evidence of this, but it was reported that BJ & Mindy.
Make the kiss cam and they do share a little Peck.
Hmm, not a full-on kiss, but there isn't like a video.
There's no way. It made headlines.
Oh and wait, so she's already not with Benjamin.
I hope so anyway. Yeah, who knows?
You know? Yeah.
So then into 30 2013. She tweets a him.
You're my soup snake, they use this term a lot on the internet.
Oh, what does it mean? It's a reference to an Office
episode when Michael wants to confess his love for Holly but
he can't. Read his own writing.
So he mistakes the word soul mate, her soup snake and I have
a clip what I wrote down a list of bullet points by Holly and I
should be together, and I'm going to find the perfect moment
today. And I'm going to tell her number
one. Holly you and I are soup snakes
there and the reason is Because in terms of the soup, we like to
eat. That doesn't make any sense.
We're soul mates, Holly and I are soul mates.
So I chose to go long. I never mind.
The reason is but that's interesting that they constantly
referring them so much. Soul.
Mate. Yeah.
So amazed but yeah, to say soup snakes, it's like, I don't do
they write the joke is that They call it that or are they?
Like they, they're soul mates but they're too afraid to say
it. You know, that's you don't say
that. Just like about your eggs are
ugly or just your friend. No, not normal.
It's super cute. And there's a Tumblr actually
who I got a lot of information from called soup snakes.
I want to give him a shout out because they're like, obsessed a
shipping account. Yeah, BJ said and Entertainment
Weekly that Year, whenever we date.
Anyone else. I think there's a period when
the person is very skeptical of our friendship.
Everyone seems to think you two. Might be a couple and I don't
want to get in the way. Are you sure you're not dating?
Are you sure you're not going to end up dating.
It's a very common thing to have chores.
A platonic best friend, that becomes a little weird.
When you start dating someone well, but like I could see that
like yeah, would you feel comfortable dating him know
likewise with this friendship? Yeah.
So then in may they attend the Met Ball together.
They're d-cups about it and they weren't officially dating.
No! Oh my God, will not publicly
then. In November Mindy, tweets.
You give any song in the island cover of it, better than the
original? Okay.
I think I've missed wrote that, but I think she said you give
me. Oh, you give me any song and the
island cover of it, and it is better than the original.
And then BD respondent, says, nothing compares to you and
Mindy tweets, back. If we get married, I insist John
Mayer, sing and perform this version at the reception, every
time we're getting married. Yeah, okay.
BJ just said, yeah, I feel like if we date other people, they'd
be really confused about the relationship.
Like, you can just be platonic, best friends with someone and
then I talk to you about getting there.
Is she actually Kelly from the office?
I know like I know or is she like stop it and so then he
responds and says I have to agree that would be very us of
us to have a famously wrenching breakup song.
Play at our wedding rings. What the fuck?
I know that is confusing. So that in 2014, Mindy goes on
the Howard Stern Show and he talks about their relationship
past interviews. Yep, I got a clip.
It's going to sound a lot. Like a Christmas dinner
interview actually. Have you had a great love in
your life where it just hurts that it didn't work out.
Yeah, you have. Yeah.
Why did it not work out? Um, because this is all I am.
It sounds not, it's again, not profound.
But like people are so different and you can overlap in certain
ways, but that are important. But not the ones that are the
most important or something. Do you check him?
Did you you still in touch with this guy?
Yes. Do you know what he's up to do?
You know if he's married now and he's here?
He's not married. No matter.
No, but you check on him. Yeah.
He's a good friend of mine. Yeah.
We've had smart. Why are you set you back up with
this guy? I think it could work.
You look like you're in love. We're he's my best friend.
So it's that's not. He broke up with you.
You broke up with him. He broke up with me.
I wantam back. You would take him back?
No, no. Because it was B with yours of
years ago. That that breakup happened.
That's actually the life was this guy.
Oh man. Wasn't it was pretty.
Damn good. Yeah, real good.
Oh good. He won him.
Funny smart and funny guy. When he broke up with you, did
you get angry? Oh, so sad.
Not angry sad. Sad.
That all. That was the fuck.
That was the hottest I've ever looked as I stopped eating right
good for you. When I get depressed, I stopped
eating. So I was so miserable and I was
so beautiful. I remember nothing like waking
up barely getting out of bed and we work together but I don't
care. I had no makeup.
I was I just I could just in all of my clothes fit so well and
but I didn't, I was real miserable.
I think the guy that you were in love with was the guy you
co-starred with on the on the office.
He's on the office. All right my wrongs.
Yeah he was he was the guy. Well he's my he's yes you're
correct. Not that mystery was not you're
not Sherlock Holmes or anything our Sherlock Holmes, a bromance.
Okay. That's right.
That's what they call me. Who have you known for ten
years? Who you worked with?
Who know what? He's legitimately one of my best
friend's he texted me before. This being like, good luck on
Howard, can't wait to hear it. He's been on my show, my new
show, he was a producer on the pilot.
I see him all the time. If he asked you to marry him,
you would have At the time. Oh yeah, wow, yeah, wow.
Yeah. I mean, it would have, it would
have been, I was 24. And if any of hurt, but for the
record of anyone asked me to marry me, I would have to
probably do when you're 24. Like you ask any girl like
someone thinks about me. Yeah, right.
Hey, I'll get married to you sure.
Thank you truck, but he's wonderful.
He's a wonderful guy. Let's hope he calls you tomorrow
and asked you to marry him. I'm not the one thing about this
is that I love it, but I think he's a great person but we
don't, I'm not holding a Well for, but I believe if he called
you tomorrow and said, listen, I made a terrible mistake, we must
get back together and get married.
You would do it II. Don't know, I don't know.
I it's not a no. Okay, that's it.
All right. We'll get you a boyfriend.
Don't worry about it. Actually, I'm going to hit you
with this price BJ's here. Now, he wants to say something
to you. He wants to, I don't know why.
He doesn't mind being your mom and dad will get you a
boyfriend. So fun wasn't like good for you
and the way he says, like he asked you to marry him, would
you say? Yeah.
That's just like what? He, I know by the way guys, on
our past progress. In other words, what we did to
our episode about Rob and Kristen.
Yeah. And I kind of like inspired this
show. Yeah, it's kind of the origins.
Yeah, we just had so much fun with that episode.
And maybe will re-air it, or you could just go faster, but yeah.
Um, but yeah, I feel like Howard Stern.
Really was I feel like he like made Kristen get engaged.
Their current wondering. Yes, because he asked mood.
Yeah. Um, yeah.
Totally you like next time she was on.
He's like, all right. So you're engaged.
Yeah, he's like yeah, it took two years actually.
I don't know why. I get the sense that she just
like goes along with the weight. The ball is on into the green
vest. Sex of your life, right?
How does he do that? I love that.
And they're like, they're so willing.
Yeah. Why do they?
I wonder I haven't listened to enough of his show but like I
wonder if this ever people that are like, yeah, there's dare you
ask me that? No, I think people have so much
respect for him that they like they want to open up.
They probably know going on. Yeah, exactly the so, yeah, she
really opened up there. She did.
I'm hoping it's like, like, hopefully BJ will call my mom.
I know. Oh my God.
So then DJ response. He's asked about this one
several interviews. You kidding me.
He says, what was your reaction to Mindy?
Kaling's, Howard interview her interview with Howard Stern,
where she talked in depth about your relationship starts about
how heartbroken she was when you two broke up, I thought it was
it sounded to me. An honest and heartfelt account
of a complicated and mostly wonderful relationship.
And the the highlight of that experience for me was my Mom
calling to sort of pry. Like so what do you think of
what Howard was saying? It sounded pretty interesting to
me like that. Howard Stern would somehow end
up as part of my mom, sort of gentle hearing is when you get a
Juke are life to be. Did it?
Did she must have learned things
about your relationship from the Howard interview.
It sounds like I supposed to Yeah, awkward for you.
We're adults at this point so now that you're mentioning it.
Yeah, it's a little awkward and then he's also asked about it on
Queen Latifah show. You were her great love.
Is there something you want to tell us about it?
You know it's funny this is what happens I get so tongue-tied
trying to explain maybe this it will help you give it up.
Thanks for making it less awkward.
The thing is, you know, she is in many ways.
The great love of my life and and she's much closer to me than
a friend and yet, we're not in a relationship.
And so, I usually take forever describing all the things that
isn't isn't. But then, when I'm done, like
sweating by trying to describe this complicated thing, usually
the person I'm talking to says, oh yeah, I have something like
that, too. Like, I feel like everyone has
this. You stay tuned?
Yeah, absolutely. That's right.
You're making the face is like it's sweet.
He's got something like that. Everybody's got someone
everyone's got their Mindy. Kaling lady right there.
She's got a Mindy Kaling. Yeah, I can see it.
I can see it. So that's perfect.
So, I'm very lucky to have the actual Mindy Kaling.
Yes, you are. We love you.
Something. No.
Okay. I think everyone maybe has
somebody. That still means a lot to them
and maybe Xanex. Yeah.
But I think that's That's normal.
Yeah, I think that's very normal, but I don't think the
like them staying in your life and it being still that like,
passionate, yes, very normal. And it's kind of sad.
But, I mean, I don't know anything about their like
current situation and I'm sure you're going to tell me but I
just feel like it must make it very hard for them to have like
to move on. Oh, how like a successful other
relationship? I mean, how are you?
Be like that and be married to somebody else.
I definitely had something like that.
Don't have it anymore because how could I have a happy life
having something like that? Yeah, like to me.
That's that's something that people have in their early 20s,
though. Yeah, that's true.
When they're young, like, it's very normal for people to break
up and then be x's and then, like not know how to like let go
of that connection, but it's not sustainable for your whole life,
you know. It's almost so frustrating
hearing him describe it that way.
I'm like, yeah, just be together then, yeah, it's He's like, well
into his thirties. Yeah.
I don't think it's not normal to be that age talking about like
that and I think being the chief are really awesome.
You're so right. He's like I think everyone has
them like that again. Maybe in your 20s.
Yeah, I like Tony's whatever. I don't think you can have
something like that and be with somebody else.
No, I was going to say. Yeah, advice.
If you start dating someone and they have someone like this in
their life, Don't Run Away Tom wrong, my experience don't fall.
They're even if they insist. There's nothing going on.
Don't bother ya. Yes.
We don't waste because it's weird.
You got, you don't want to be with someone who's so close with
their ex. Yeah, because why, why can't
they let go? You know, even just a little
bit? Yeah, make me more of like a
distant friend but when it's like, you're texting all the
time, like the only defense? Yeah.
When your best friend is your ex, yeah, you do not need to be
best friends with your eggs. Never like get the chance to I
think see. Them as like a different role in
your life. Yeah, exactly.
There's still going to be that go-to person.
Yeah, I think if they're casual friends, they're moved on.
Yeah. Like if they can see them and
they're like totally indifferent and like don't care.
Then that's a good sign. But to be like like talking all
the time, talking about your marriage like hypothetical
marriage on Twitter for everybody to see that's a red
flag. Yeah there and I'm kind of You
mean honestly right now b.j.? And this whole situation the way
I mean. Yeah.
He broke up with her. Yeah.
And then I don't know. I feel like it's kind of on you
sometimes when you break up with someone to step back.
Yeah. I think that could be really
hard. Yeah.
And I know it seems cruel to but like, I think it's actually just
torturing somebody to like, keep I think so, you know, talking to
them and seeing you miss them or I mean, I don't know if he did
that, but, yeah, kind of guessing the way he's talking.
Around it and these answers you have like I will say that, you
know, it's a honest account of like you don't, ya know, she's
making it sound like no big deal.
Yeah. Yeah, so also in 2014, Mindy and
BJ for some reason, I have no idea.
Why do a little, like, When Harry Met Sally, Recreation,
what, or People magazine, where they dress up as the characters.
And I think either go to Katz's Deli or they're like in a set
that looks like it and they like do a little clip for People
magazine. So that's about something great
can men and women be friends. That's a perennial issue.
Not one that I've ever thought about what you because women and
men can't be friends. I was going to say that good my
favorite scene. When our Masala is probably when
Billy Crystal is lying in bed, after his first night with Meg
Ryan. And you hear his inner
monologue, I found that very, very funny and honest, the
crystal was straight-up. Hot in this movie.
I think people forget that, he wasn't like SNL.
Guy, he was like, he wasn't serious.
Yes, wait, we we meant different things by?
Yes, I'm not. He's very handsome.
Yes, my favorite scene is when Billy Crystal's wife has just
left him and he meets Meg Ryan at the bookstore.
And he's been so cocky up until that point and he's just sort of
like, broken down and sad and it was just kind of unexpected for
him. In this movie, he's in at, she's
just being super funny and Loki, love this movie and I love their
relationship in the movie. But I don't think that you And I
are like this at all. I think we are well now, you're
just being contrary. I think you're actually more
like Aaron. I'm like Sally.
Probably yeah, like art this these lunches.
I mean, you can be a little overconfident and I can be a
little, like, fussy and I like, strawberries that have Anila.
If you have it, if not the no ice cream just whipped cream.
But only if it's real, if it's out of a can and nothing.
But it's very endearing that he's a little fussy and it's now
that there's a camera going, you're being nice but you don't
find it. Do, I always loved everything
about you. Oh boy, the fratus in your
voice. I'll come back over to my side
of the table. I love you, too.
But doing things like awkward, that they're even like
recreating this movie where the two best friends end up
together. Yeah, that's so interesting.
And they dated. Yes.
Yeah. It's not like they've never
slept together. Yeah.
Like they have a table obvious, physical attraction to each
other. I feel like he's weirdly in.
That's just one. Call it.
One little moment of their lives, but I feel like he's
trying to like, put it on her that like, she doesn't actually
like him or something. Oh, really, why did you get
yeah? Well, he says, um, like oh now
the cameras rolling. Oh, yeah.
And then she says that what you just said?
But she says something really nice and he said, like her voice
was fraught with some bowling and I didn't get that.
Yeah, it's like he's saying like, you don't really like me
or whatever you want. I wonder if this they play this
thing off for the As though, like, if they want to make it
seem like they have this, like, romantic friendship or if it's
real. If it's real, they're like
wasting. Well, we'll get to that.
So, then also the same year, BJ publishes, I would struggle with
this word Memoir Memoir Memoir. One more thing on the knowledge
mints page. He writes, thanks Mindy.
I love you. And you're the best.
What kind of weird roosting your?
So you love your ex I think that's the thing.
They're not just best friends. There are?
Yeah, yeah. 2015 in May? She tweets.
Love means never having to say. Hey, are we dating?
Oh my God, directed at anybody. Yeah, but I think you can infer
who that's a massive something to eat.
Yeah. Oh that's sad though.
Also that year and there's a lot of things I'm not including in
this because there's so much. So like I'm just kind of taking
highlights I moved here. Also, that year she says in an
interview with InStyle, he is not my boyfriend, but he's not
my best friend. I guess you could describe our
relationship as romantically charged camaraderie with loud
arguments, but I don't think Facebook would accept this as a
new status. This is like almost triggering
me. Yeah, I know.
Yeah, same. Okay, 2016.
Here we go. This was a big year.
Oh, geez, January. He's asking an interview if
anyone in the world could kill him without repercussions.
It would it be and why? And he said Mindy Kaling, she
wouldn't even need a reason for that.
She's just TBD. She's just TBD.
Like, her reason is. That's an interesting question.
Do you have an answer to that? Hookah kill me without
repercussions? Yeah, I was it if someone was to
murder me, who would? I think we're like the suspect.
Yeah. Is that like what the question
is asking know, I think it's really, who would want to kill
you? Yeah.
I see my mom maybe but like, not because I think my mom's gonna
kill me but I think it could be like a crime of passion, because
she's a doesn't want me to leave.
That was, maybe cut that out, but yeah, yeah, I think Mom
would be a common and people, but is the quiet, okay?
Hey, if we answered, who would want to kill, who would want to
kill me? That's a good one.
I can't pick. Why would someone want to kill
you? It's crazy.
You know. Why would some?
I feel like a former friend want to kill you from middle school?
Oh yeah. That would have been my answer
to but I think that'd be crazy. Yeah, I don't think like I don't
know, I'd be shocked if there's someone in the world.
I don't know if any of your former friends like have such
proud up. Feeling I have to say what this
prism Satanist, anybody, I noticed that there is this guy
who was watching my Instagram sores all the time, but does not
follow me and it's someone who I do not know when.
Oh, really, yeah, but always watches them watches every
single one. You creepy?
I know. It's not weird, so should walk,
but he recently followed me. So you're that person I'm onto
you but I see it. Yeah.
What the heck? But I don't know who they are.
So this person has to go to my page all the time and watch it.
I probably should just block it. That's interesting.
May of that year. Many posts a photo of her and BJ
or her mouth is resting on his shoulder in the caption reads.
Hey, I'm wrapped now which I think is like wrapped from TV
show. Oh, I feel like I should show it
to you. You see?
Yeah, okay, let's see. Oh yeah, he's in the picture.
Mmm, this is for wrapping her show.
The Mindy Project. Oh my gosh, that's weird.
This is lot of pictures. Yeah.
Host with a friend, it looks really cuddly.
Mmm. Like her headed her mouth.
Yeah. Resting on his in his head is
like her lean back against hers. Mmm.
She's staying always confusing. Hmm.
On a panel for something. I don't know what it was.
He said important I think Facebook invented.
It's complicated for us. Oh my God.
I haven't been D. September that year slate
released an article ranking power couples in tweeted, that
BJ & Mindy. Would make the list if their
relationship was confirmed and BJ liked the tweet and December
that year, okay? And this she does a lot.
She post a picture of a Hanukkah and Indian Fusion meal for
Hanukkah and Christmas Eve. She's not Jewish.
Yeah, he's Jewish. Hmm.
Oh my God, and she posts a lot of like is yes.
And she and throughout the years.
From this point on, she posts a lot of like Like her celebrating
Jewish holidays in this book that's looking at.
Earlier she has a chapter called Jewish guys.
Oh my God. That's weird.
How would she know the mannerisms of Jewish guys?
So well, exactly, exactly. And it's kind of interesting
because it's the county of a douche because you needed
because this is one that just keeps coming up, okay?
2017 Mindy Kaling shocks, shockingly unexpectedly.
Gives birth to her daughter in 2017.
Yeah. But doesn't say who the father
is like, nobody even knew that she was pregnant and she doesn't
even list a father on the birth certificate.
Wow, the fuck sources say she refused even tell her close
friends who the father is and that the Monte was an unexpected
surprise. Oh my God, which is interesting
because I assumed that she just like had a baby with, like a
sperm donor. Usually, really wanted to be a
mom, but like, it sounds like, why wouldn't you just say that?
Yeah, exactly. So, I don't, I mean, we don't,
she's just like does. Yeah.
And it's like tough because it's
like, I don't want to speculate like, you know, like people can,
you know, do a sperm donor. They can do whatever they want,
like their pots of Parenthood, but in this book, I know she
could have changed her mind. Maybe that was like her younger
self, but she says, she never has one night stands.
Interesting. That isn't I just really like
flipping through this book, 20 minutes till your dad is a good.
She's like I don't care how people do it.
She said she never had. Okay, I mean granted she could
have is a long time but by yeah, wow, I did listen to the podcast
fluently forward. Hmm.
They were theorizing that there's rumors that she had that
the fault and I truly do not think this is true.
Okay. So this is really don't think,
yeah, that supposedly The father of the baby is, oh my God, I'm
forgetting his name but he's the guy who played o.j.
Simpson and that miniseries. The people versus o.j.
Let me look it up. I didn't watch it.
Sometimes I still hear about things like but I don't know he
his name is oh, Cuba Gooding jr. Oh, really hmm, But why do they
think that there's photographs of them together, mmm, like, on
a date or something? But this guy, first of all, I
think you might have been married but also he was accused
of, like, really bad stuff I think recently.
I don't even 2017. But that could be why she
doesn't want people to know, but I gotta be horrible.
I know. I truly don't think it's, yeah,
this guy face. So off, Mmm.
But like I said, I yeah, believe it, but a lot of people think
it's BJ. Novak's child.
That's true. But Mindy said in an interview
my feeling is that until I speak to my daughter about her
paternity. I'm not going to talk to anyone
else about it. People do think that BJ is the
father of the child and she said if I was on the outside looking
at it, I would think the same thing.
But the truth is BJ is so much more like family now than a
place now than a platonic friend, we're like family.
Now, then a platonic Friend. Yeah.
How does that even gate? Remember.
Yeah. So he's more than a platonic
friend. Yeah.
He's like family. Like your husband?
Yeah. Or like your brother?
Yeah. Because your brother is still at
the end of the day, a platonic friend.
You sure to never say someone who slept with his?
Like your brother? No you can't baby like gossip,
third cousin. Yeah, Uncle Ono.
No, I'm not saying that you do that.
But this thing, what would be a relation like the feeling?
Now it's been said, Uncle you're just like oh he's like family
but like what? He's like family like maybe they
can in law. Yeah.
Maybe. Yeah but also she says they're
so close. He's looking brother-in-law's.
Yeah. Yeah.
They're not good. That's not appropriate.
I know. None of this is appropriate.
Yeah. So he's I think the Godfather to
my daughter he comes over like once a week sometimes.
We'll come over just to hang out with her once a week.
Just if he was a father, that's very odd that he would be the
Godfather. I agree.
That's why I hired think at the
end of the day that he's not the father because I would think
what a terrible person he's The Godfather or he's the biological
father but he chooses to just go by God.
That's really bad. Yeah there's no that's really
weird. Like yeah.
The father know you want to be the father.
Be the father is god father doesn't really mean anything and
really do anything I know. Yeah it's me.
You get the extra gift. Also I think I mean technically
speaking he is Jewish, right? I mean, this isn't Godfather.
Technically mean I know that it's been not enough movie cuts
that, but technically means it's like the person who would like,
the root of a Godfather is, like the person who like carries on
the child's faith, not that it has to be a way like I know that
like now it's kind of just meant to be like an adult was like a
more special pigment. Yeah.
But you're right. It is supposed to be someone
that helps like guide you. Yeah, spiritually I guess but
there's no like technical need for a Godfather.
Not that it really matters like it's just interesting, but I
know it has become more secular. So 2018, he spotted holding her
daughter on an outing. I think I'm self with her.
No, I think it's just interesting.
So then and it doesn't easy Mindy.
Kaling is in the movie wrinkle and time and BJ.
Novak tweets. A photograph of a poster for the
movie and rights. When I first met Mindy she lived
in a small apartment on Fairfax. Ave this is what is in front of
the building today. And it's like the Poster.
Congrats Mindy and a future. Congrats to all those who will
see it in are inspired to do great things and then me Mindy
responds. Oh my God, I'm like full crying.
I'll never be mad at you again. What we're getting a lot of
like, references to the fact that they fight all.
Yeah. Oh my gosh.
I want to know, I know. So 2019, they attend the Oscars
after party together, which actually, I should say, I think
even before this year they attended it like Every single
year it's another tips on surprising interesting.
And may they attend the premiere of her film late night together,
like as dates in July of that year, at his 40th, birthday
party. When everyone is singing, happy
birthday to him, she has his arm, he has his arm around her
really aren't happy birthday part.
What? Which I think is gonna be crazy.
Like yeah, you would have your arm around someone.
Yeah. And any other time, but when
people are actively singing. Yeah, there's any happy
birthday. Like, that's when that mean
bought light is on you. Yeah.
I don't understand. No, you don't have your arm
around. Just anybody during how you
break? Yeah, that's like significant.
Okay, we're going to take a clean here so 2020 don't tell me
to look you look to the side. Yeah we're going to take a turn.
So we have this lie, cute little friendship, you know, like and
we're like what is going on? What confusing friendship 2020?
There's a lot of blind item tips to do.
Duma just like an Instagram account for those who don't
know, which is like, anonymous tips or not anonymous tips about
celebrities for BJ is photographed at this influencer
event because you apparently is dating an influencer there.
And like the person who submits the tip is like, it was really
awkward like he was really out of place and like, he's like
dating some young influencer influencer, like an Instagram
and you probably know this already, but on the podcast Red,
Scare the house. Let's talk about how PJ is
constantly sliding into the DMS of different girls in NYC who
are like in their 20s for the, and that he even message one of
the hosts and one of the other hosts roommate.
Yeah. Which is But what are the odds?
Yeah, like you're probably messaging.
A lot of several people know each other.
Here's enticing. And then someone on Reddit
commented, okay, I am definitely not in the know or anything, but
I do have cutesy artsy friends that are in Brooke that are
broken base and BJ. Novak, does this shit does this
shit a lot? So the point where my friends,
make fun of him because he's constantly trying to pull.
I mean this could all just be like rumors but it is
interesting. When like a lot of people say
that. Yeah.
Well, I mean, there's even I'll get to it but there's like stuff
to back it up. I think like people oh I don't
actually have this specifically because I think they're really
good about having this not on the internet but people have
posted like his screenshots from what's that dating out that like
for celebrities? Yeah, right yeah, right yeah.
He's like Chinese very active on, really?
I do wonder if he's been like this, like the whole time.
Exactly. That's what I think.
And that's why they're not together because he can't come
in. Yeah, which is pathetic.
Are you serious? Yeah, that's sad.
So, once again, they attend the Oscars after party together 2020
also. Then in March they quarantined
together for like What? Mmm, interesting in April.
They celebrate Passover together.
Interested in September, she tweeted that she gave birth to a
baby boy named Spencer, which wait interesting.
Okay, what's like nine months before?
April. Oh no.
Okay, never mind. Whatwhat is going to say, oh my
God, I'm losing. What's nine months before April?
Maybe it was the beginning of quarantine but oh yeah it's
actually one month. Yeah.
Okay. Actually, what is think about
it? So bad at this kind of thing.
Oh, wait, don't you just go three months ahead?
Oh yeah, true. Then I get confused.
Like so the August or sighs? Well, his July is his 40th,
birthday party. Oh my God, that night.
Yeah, you never know. Wait, what was the day?
I so great but I didn't think about, I don't know where you're
going to get into this episode 1.
It's like was his birthday on the same, okay.
August 1st, August 1st. This is where I die.
And then the date of her son's for the party.
Could have been like the end of July.
Yeah. Oh, wait a minute.
Do I have the date completely wrong?
I'm guys I have the day. What is that?
She gives birth on October 20 20 So what 6 months before, October
are nine months just January? I don't know anything about
January and February. I know.
They attend the Oscars offer party.
Yes I'm hanging out there. Hanging out.
Of course once a week. The hands we.
Yeah. But it could have been the
first. Yeah baby Donnie.
So people have no idea who the second one is to.
Yeah. As usual, don't know either.
There's no dad listed on either birth certificate.
Wow. She's interesting.
I do think it's I'm not sure what I would do in that
situation but I think I In which he's saying that like she's
waiting till she tells her daughter exactly imagine feeling
a little betrayed like, oh yeah and the world.
Yeah be like oh my gosh. Yeah just that other people knew
and you didn't. I just think it would be odd if
her father really was b.j. Novak and he's in her life and
honey, it's BJ. Yeah, I mean it really could be
like, maybe they did decide that like they were gonna have a baby
together but like why isn't just being in that role of not bother
very confusing. So yeah, she keep birth to a
baby boy named Spencer in December.
She posts a photo celebrating Hanukkah.
Hmm, with the kids interesting. She also gave an interview about
her Christmas traditions and then says that BJ dresses up as
Santa. What's the kids What the fuck is
this? I know they celebrate the
holidays together. I just think that she celebrated
Passover. No, yeah, yeah.
With the kids, the kid is this fork in her?
Yes. Celebrate Jewish holidays.
Yeah, as a BJ. Yeah.
What How can they not be together?
I know. I don't understand it 20:21.
He posted a selfie with Mindy and captioned it this in
September. I don't usually ask for selfies
with celebrities, but saw my favorite star last night and
just had to talk to see her all the time.
And on, Good Morning America. He said that he sees Mindy
several times a week. Sounds like Then that your
there's a dual Duma. I don't never want Doom.
What? Admission titled BJ.
Hose. Let's get lunch and someone says
how many 20-somethings is BJ trying to get with lately?
As one of them. I think we should all get drinks
without him, there's so many things I want to talk out.
Talk about with my fellow. BJ hose.
Wow, sporty trying to get with these girls in their 20s about
PJ mountains. And then someone This is on
Twitter and I saw this on Reddit and someone commented fellow New
Yorker here. And I can say he deaf does, he's
out all the time and Lower East Side and goes to these certain
parties that are supposed to emulate.
The early 2000s, aesthetic that a bunch of people in their
twenties go to it's honestly pretty cringe TV H he's cute but
he would be hot if he wasn't slumming it up.
Being so thirsty. This is coming from a woman in
her mid-20s that hangs around, downtown and Bushwick.
Oh My God. Yeah we live in Bushwick.
Yeah. Oh, I don't know what is parties
to try to find like what are you doing?
Let me give him the benefit of the doubt.
Like, maybe because of this, like intense relationship that
he has with her, he feels like he can only Only date people in
their 20s who like aren't looking for something serious.
How is it going to have a 40 year old girlfriend with this
whole natural? Like no, because going to put up
with that. Yeah.
No one's going to know what doesn't make it right.
No. But maybe he is so afraid to let
go of Mindy. The he's purposely like you
could just had purposely having really short things.
Exactly, when people who don't want something serious, although
Oh I bet they do probably celebrity.
Yeah so yeah smart situation but like you never know like maybe
he doesn't want to be with Mindy because he wants to still hook
up with these young girls and if so that's wicked icky.
Like I know that makes me sad. Like she's just putting up with
this for some reason. Yeah.
Like girl hope not. I know.
I think she's dark. Yeah.
She's way too good for him. Yeah.
Most people know who Mindy Kaling is.
Yeah. Most Probably, even though
that's true. The office is super popular
motion. Probably do not know who the dad
is like if you just ask someone on the street, yeah, I know.
Because I don't know. Just even the way she said,
like, oh any girl would marry anybody?
Like I hope she doesn't still have a little bit of that
feeling. I know something.
That's I don't think that's really for.
I was. Yeah, I'm not ready.
I'm 26. I do not want to get married.
Just everyone has this you? Yeah, yes.
So I don't know. Anyway, also, speaking of young
women, there's a lot of blind items in pictures of him hanging
out with Kern and shipka. No, that is.
Yeah, she wasn't, she Sabrina didn't the Remake.
Yep. And she's 20 years younger than
him. Wow.
So pictures of them like hanging out and there's even a picture
of them hanging out with, like, John Mayer.
It's a people. Obviously, people hate John
Mayer, oh my God, he's grooming her.
And like gosh, like they're actually our tweets between
curing in and BJ like all the way back.
As far as I 2015, angrily tweeting at each other.
It's like, okay, she actually look at that.
Ines. Yeah.
But I'm gonna hope that it's like not a romantic situation.
Yeah. Hopefully maybe they work
together or something. Yeah, kind of.
Yeah. So it seems regardless like it
just even if they're fine to see your ex even if they are She
doesn't really care. It would suck to see him just
out and about with all these like 20 year old girls.
Yeah. For some reason I get the
impression that she lives in LA, but maybe if she lives in.
Yeah, I I know. I'm like the elderly don't have
any knowledge but it's not like little bio thing.
It said she lived in Los Angeles.
Okay. Yeah.
Yeah, she does some but it does he live there too?
Well why is it always out doing this stuff in the lower?
Yeah. Yeah we also hang out all the
time. I think you're right though.
I think she means she did live in New York forever.
Maybe. I think a lot.
So he's living like both. Yeah.
It definitely does live in Los Angeles.
Yeah to. Hmm.
But they are hanging out several times a week, so maybe he just
has been emotional. Work on the weekends.
Well, speaking of parties, I got what he's in October of that
year. He's, they're spotted in Malibu
together. Oh, really okay.
But also, I actually skipped ahead September of that year.
He doesn't know their ammo. I'm not it and he's asked his
favorite person is and he says my goddaughter.
Oh, just interesting. How were his responses at the
years? Like, I don't know, I don't
know. I don't think capital letters.
I didn't want to say it's just as it is.
Is my goddaughter. Okay?
So I don't know the capitalization since October
that year, they take the kids trick-or-treating together.
Wow. November of that year so close.
He's so involved. Yeah.
November they go to the premiere of her TV show the sex lives of
college girls together and means December.
Wow! Mindy in DJ, go to Disneyland
together with her kids and a witness says that she's holy
that he was holding her son and he kissed the Just which is you
know, these are cute. Maybe, yeah, he's the Godparent
to both the kids. That's so interesting.
Yeah. What the heck is this?
It's interesting because it's like, I have two brothers, but
like I wouldn't make both of them.
Like one of them, The Godfather to both.
Yeah. If I had more than one kid, but
no, maybe that's just because I have two brothers.
But she have a brother. Yeah, she does actually yeah,
yeah. So that's interesting.
BJ's the Godparent. For both of them.
Yeah, Godfather. I feel like people don't do
that. Like I hate yeah.
Especially if you have more than one kid, it's like more than one
opportunity to like give other people like a shout-out.
So true, most people don't have the same person.
I wonder who the Godmother is. Hmm.
Is the Godmother actively involved like those?
I don't know. It's a good question.
Yeah. And then December mini post a
picture for Christmas of her fireplace and Mindy and BJ have
stockings. Next to each other on the
fireplace. His name is Janna Ru says be
system, but people say that she calls him the sweet pea, I know.
Yeah. Oh, she does.
Oh my God, this is crazy. Yeah, I don't understand.
Don't worry about confusing. So it just gets more and more
confusing. I feel that we're in this year
now. Okay.
Caught up to the almost present, January, BJ & Mindy.
Go to Massachusetts at the same. Time with her kids and they go
on a whole trip and there. Yep.
And February bitchy. Okay, this is crazy.
February, BJ follows a parenting advice Instagram by a woman
named dr. Becky people.
And all of the posts are about like, parenting myths and like
the importance of play. And like, like, how to
communicate with your child and like resolving conflict with
kids parenting? Yes.
Levi was so desire. Yeah.
And they also just like continue to like tweet at each other and
they're seeing going out to lunch together a lot in February
and then Mindy post a picture of her and her daughter wearing
BJ's hat. Supposedly.
Wow. Which has Max seafood Cape Cod,
like she posts pictures have March they attend Beyonce's,
Oscar party together and posed for pictures and p.j.
Reshares Fan Art of the This is interesting.
Mmm, then also in March, Mindy post a pic celebrating Passover.
Mmm, again more Jewish holidays, then BJ.
Okay in March, BJ post, a story of Kelly and Ryan their
characters from The Office kissing, what and a clip of Ryan
smirking in, like, you know, how the office they have a
interviews. Yeah.
And it's Ryan smirking in the interview and saying, I don't
know. No, I can't explain it.
Oh my God. Like blushing about sure that
Kelly and BJ wrote my favorite Kelly and Ryan moment in the
office hashtag soup snakes. Are you kidding me?
No, this is literally like three months ago.
I'm so this is 2022. Yeah, yeah.
My God April. They go dress together.
As storybook characters for a fundraiser for Mindy's
daughter's school. So they go to a PTA event
together to her daughter's school.
Why are they? Saying they're not together,
that's very involved. Hmm, so April they go.
Yeah I said that. Okay, April someone tweets that
BJ asking him to name his five favorite writers and he says,
Terry Southern Philip Roth Sarah Mancuso William Shakespeare and
Mindy Kaling may, there's a blind item that former A-list
actor. Who's now a b-list was overheard
saying that he's a father of two children.
With his former co-star, but the person who submitted it thinks,
that he didn't really mean it. So people do this is about
before, but like, maybe he was just like joking about being the
father of her tested. Justing.
Mmm, what do you say he was ever a list?
No, that's the thing, but people get that wrong.
Remember, the time we played the, yeah we played.
He was feel asleep for like a four hour car ride.
Um, it's fun to do. But who else could that be like
who's I know? It's so hard to think of a TV
star who used to be a lesbian out there be lists.
It could be like anybody but mmm, I would say he was never a
list. Yeah, I would say Mindy has been
a list. Hmm.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Noblest is a good place to be. Maybe this is better than, but
it seems to be 0. B - hi.
Yeah, I would not that. There's anything wrong with
that, BJ. Okay, BJ.
You know what? Because I mean this BJ will give
you the beef has. Yeah, I think Fame seems really
horrible in many ways. Oh completely.
It doesn't say anything about anyone's worth as a human being.
I think all humans are equal, but I don't need to do this
whole thing exactly. But yeah, just saying some plr.
Just hire in the business. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
You cannot company or something. Exactly.
And it's well-known. I bet.
They're, yeah, there's some gray lines.
But for sure, Mindy's more famous, and BJ.
Yeah, definitely completely. Yeah.
So also again, they go back to Boston together with her kids.
They take the kids to the Boston Children's Museum.
They spotted at the playground together in Boston.
They're seeing going out to lunch and Newton.
Mindy bjbj went to a Red Sox game.
In the Red Sox official Tick-Tock account posted a video
that said when Scranton's biggest power couple stops by
Fenway and then he suddenly wasn't their biggest partner and
that's what Dwight and Angela. So then he's a premiere of the,
it's a Tribeca film festival. And he says, Says this game with
me, fans went crazy laughing with last week when he went to
the Red Sox game with Mindy being back in Massachusetts,
what was that? Like that was also a dream come
true, my family's from Boston, Mindy's families from Boston.
So to get to hang out with sort of multiple generations of
people, that matter to me. It was a dream Rudy for anyone
at the Tonys tonight. Maybe some friends, I'm rooting
for Mindy Kaling, who produced a strange Loop and and hopefully
she'll get her first Tony. So yeah, man, he was nominated
the same. Day of his Premier for a film,
that he may be called a strange Loop.
Oh no, she's nominated for a play called The Strange.
No cool. And he has a direct directorial
debut with a film called benjin's at Tribeca Film
Festival. Which first of all we oughta go
back and say multiple generations of people who matter
to me the kids, the kids and their parents.
Yeah, I want to say to just being from Massachusetts.
Like they are, hmm. I find it weird that he said, it
was a dream come true because I'm assuming he's meant to the
lot of Red Sox game. I Nina Harvard to like it makes
it seem like he doesn't want to talk about what it was really
like exactly that. I can't even say, like it was a
nice day. Whatever.
No, he acted like, it was like a reunions.
Yeah, that's like true dream. Come true, you know, Mindy and I
like you see her all the time. And I get going to Red Sox.
Give anybody could go to one. Yeah.
But I do think they did good to go on the field and like me.
Okay. Maybe that monster, but it's not
since I really, I know a lot of people get to do that, maybe
that's what he meant. But I was just over analyzing
when you're saying that. Yeah, thinking he is making it
sound less casual. I agree.
I almost feel like he gave an
answer that was like he, this is really over and he like Dated
from the actual question. Yeah.
And like, give like a kind of like media trained dancer.
Yeah, I'm not really respond. So it seems like, but unless the
dream come true is being able to hang out with like his parents
and like they're supposed to be like really cynical here.
No one would say that the dream concert she seems over the top.
Yeah, it does. But also the fact that he had to
say hanging out with multiple Generations, that matter to me.
Yeah, and over-the-top seriously who normally says that.
But okay, so that night Mindy was nominated for a Tony Award.
But instead of going to the Tonys, she went to his Film
Festival. What so for the premiere of his
movie, instead of going and be, they do asked why that was and
he said she's committed to coming.
She committed to coming as soon as she heard about it.
She said this is selfishness and possessiveness.
I don't want you. To become Jordan Peele and
abandoned me without becoming part me, becoming part of the
ride. It was obviously a very nice
compliment and in true Mindy Style, Both sincere and a joke.
But when she found out that the Tonys were the same night, she
did a lot of guilt tripping and grumbling.
I told her to go to the Tonys but she didn't.
I had this great screening and celebrated and at the after
party, with my friends, I then texted her.
Hey, did you win the Tony? And she wrote back?
Yep, and I thought, oh my God, this woman will never stop.
One-upping me, did she win? It.
Yeah she did with the traffic and she didn't go by the upsets
me. I know.
And then he posted like, he posted to his Instagram story, a
screenshot of like the text message of her thing.
She won the Tony and that kind of brings us to the present.
I don't really have anything else unless there's been
something this past week. I hope like, I hope that I just
don't even know what the heck is going on.
And I'm so wrong, but it's upsetting me because I feel Feel
like she, I don't know. I've just seen this with so many
of my friends just women. I know that they just really
They do anything for a guy. No I agree.
You know just stick around forever and you should have gone
to the tone. Yeah.
That's her big night. Like that's huge.
Yeah. Oh my God.
And she won the award. What?
Like and winning an Oscar. I wonder if roles were reversed
if he would have done the same. Hmm.
You know, it's not like they, you know, if she didn't go to
his Premier, would that really be like the end of their
friendship or whatever? I know.
Yeah, probably not. I know you like, it would be sad
if she thought it was like that. Importantly, that's how she
felt, but like, well her saying, like, oh, like it's out of
selfishness. Like, I don't want you to like
become successful without me like Mindy, you're already
successful and like, you don't like, leave her behind.
Yeah, you know what what's meant for?
You will never pass you by. That's what that's my Mantra
lately. If BJ was meant for you, you
don't need to go to his premiere for him, working out, day in
your life. You know, it's meant for you
would never pass you by it to me.
Shows a little bit of insecurity.
I don't know like maybe mnd I don't know you.
So yeah but like that to think like you can't miss out on this
or else like he'll be. I'm successful and like, leave
you in the dust. Mindy.
We love you, we love you, but come on.
Yeah, the whole thing. Like I like I would say, I want
them together, but just because I think it's a total waste.
If you really do have such a deep friendship, and attraction
for each other and love each other.
Why do just like letting that? Like, yeah, but it is like, just
be together. Why making it so complicated?
Because I don't think they're ever going to fully be able to
be with anybody else. If they have each other in, I
mean, it seems like they are together.
Yeah, exactly. Maybe they have an open
relationship and I mean, they use each other for the things
that you would use a couple like a partner for like going to a
PTA event spending holidays together.
Go ahead and visit your parents. Maybe they are just Super open
there. Like we just have a partnership.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
But I feel like they could talk about that.
Hmm. If they could, if they had like
an explanation. Yeah, because they kind of want
the world to know about this like flirtation and like
romantic relationship that they have.
Like, they're not really hiding that true.
Yeah, it would be sweet if it was like, When Harry Met Sally
and They're like we're together now.
Me like get married or something?
Yeah. Yeah.
But right now, it's like, in the middle of when hurry, When Harry
Met Sally, but hearing that silly takes place over a much
shorter amount of. That's not true.
Like, this is too long, 15 years now.
Yeah, well doing this. You're bored.
Yeah, I totally blame him 100%. Yeah, I think they would be
together if it wasn't for him. Mmm, being However, it is the
what he is. I mean, they said they wrote the
characters in office, to be like them.
Yeah, it was totally Ryan's fault.
Okay, do you think that he's the father of her kids?
Oh my gosh, I hope not. I think that'd be so odd, but
maybe I'm gonna give figure it out.
Yeah. Who mean?
Yeah, maybe it was a sperm donor.
I don't know why that feels like more infringing on someone's
privacy than like, if it's just a good night.
Yeah, I think it's I don't know. Gun to my head, I don't know.
Oh yeah, I actually gone to my head.
I think like I might die takes on like a father role.
He's obviously. Yeah doing that.
And so maybe that's why he followed that Instagram because
he is like trying to be that for the kids like why?
Yeah, it reads at the end of the day, they are exes.
Yeah. Like at the end of the day, they
actually did legitimately date. Yeah.
So all of that with that context, like you're taking on a
father role for for an X, you know.
Yeah. Did she just pull that thing?
Like will you just raise kids with me?
Like What you're talking about with a gay man.
Oh yeah. Yeah guys, if I don't ever find
someone I'm gonna find a gay man who also wants to have kids.
Yeah. And we'll have kids together but
it won't be a family but not together.
Maybe that's their situation. I'm trying to put myself in his
shoes and imagine I don't know, obviously not a gay man if he's
going after. No, no, I don't mean here's a
gay, man, but maybe they just agreed to platonically raise
kids together, but obviously attracted to each other, like I
don't think that the five they have is legitimately platonic
And I've been seeing like it, that's just a mess.
They do post pictures with each other all the time to like BJ
has a picture because birthday or something where he's like
gazing at her or her birthday. She's a cake.
Really, just like looking at her, like, kind of lovingly.
I guess what? I want to know.
They know if anybody's listening and you have information.
Yeah, you personally know them. We can keep it a secret.
Do you think people that we cover whatever like search their
own means and bingo Spotify or something?
And look for a podcast episode about you and BJ for listening.
BJ. Want to hear your side of the
story. Yep.
We live in New York. Yeah.
What if he's out there right now?
Slogging around the ardian? Yeah.
So I think one thing I want to do with this podcast is at the
end of each episode, if it's a couple who are currently not
together for us to give a probability rating of How likely
we think they are to either end up together or get back
together. Okay, cool.
So for b.j. and Mindy, I mean, it's confusing.
It's like are they together Night Out in a way?
I can open my or something, but I would say miss a fifty percent
fifty. Okay, I'm actually gonna say 70%
chance. We'll get back together.
Cool. Okay.
And then okay, custody battle, would you pack and boys on the
gets the kids? No.
No it's her kids. Who gets you?
Like I'm not the one that you could only.
Oh, whose side are you on? Mindy's me to wonder if we'll
ever disagree. I Maybe he kind of fun.
Someone might not really have a strong opinion but if anyone was
doing like loves b.j. and we're so wrong about him.
Let us know. Yeah, I don't hate us.
Yeah, I do. Here is, I mean, I don't have
anything against BJ. I just don't know why you guys
aren't together and I get the sense that it's because of him.
Yeah. Unless you are together.
Mmm. And in which case, why aren't
you opening, right? Yeah.
Why are you hanging your curtain?
Should go stop it. Stop it.
You die. I think that they might be
together but like an open thing. Okay.
Yeah, probably. But that just that would make me
sad because I don't know. She's not going out meeting all
these are no we don't see why not I mean yeah maybe yeah maybe
she's dating someone and we have no idea.
But how would that work? Yeah.
Posting pictures of her ex mmm. No no.
I just keep going in a circle. I don't they have it in their
mindset. Like, they will end up together
though. Like, they have that kind of
dynamic that it's like, oh like, you know, we're just friends
right now. But like, like the way he wasn't
invited, I know, but I know it is future.
That's the thing. I feel like this is like a
relationship that people have in their 20 and using, it's not
something you have when you're 40 kids.
Like the way he was crying about.
But the thing is, it was Mindy like it, you know how dark
undertone but it was Mindy. Why are you crying?
Yeah. Just call her and yeah chica
Gallery. Exactly.
I really don't get what? All this like red tape is on its
red tape. Wow, that's really interesting.
Oh my God. So that's our first episode.
Wow it's just a Shannon was doubtful that they ever dated
Shanna. Hope you are still listening.
Yeah, like you listen to me you have to admit that this People
counts, right? So definitely are like rats.
I mean they both said they were together.
Yeah and there's something going on but yeah thanks everybody for
listening. Yeah this is the end.
Yeah this is it that's that's sad.
I know this is really fun. I didn't want it to end.
No. But yeah guys thank you so much
for listening. It's kind of scary.
Starting a new podcast if you want a disguise.
Like the of us to review, we really appreciate that.
Yeah, supposed to help. I'm sure you've heard people say
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Yeah. And our next episodes can be
really fun time through this. I don't know.
I should be surprised. Okay, maybe wait, maybe you
could describe it but don't say. Oh sorry, I love Of that like
it's some fun time. Okay our next relationship will
be about an A-list model and a b-list b-list actress where
there have been cheating allegation.
But intriguing, this have to hear about it.
Next time, significant lovers again, lovebirds.
How do we end? I don't know because I still
want to do that. We love you guys but we gotta
play in the game. I guess that's, it doesn't
match. We don't have like our taglines
yet. We can get exactly the things
we're going to have pod. I was inside jokes.
Now we love you guys but we got a plane to catch.
Ya, you don't know what that means.
That's okay. See you next time.