1 00:00:00,700 --> 00:00:16,700 Are You Lonesome Tonight? Are you sorry we drifted does 2 00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:20,600 your mate. Welcome welcome to significant 3 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,600 lovers. A podcast about relationships. 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,100 Happy Whirlwind Wednesday. Thankfully listeners came up 5 00:00:29,100 --> 00:00:30,500 with that. Hmm. 6 00:00:30,900 --> 00:00:33,800 Wedlock Wednesday. This is not a wedlock episode. 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:42,300 No, this is the world Windows Wild Wild Ones day. 8 00:00:43,700 --> 00:00:45,800 We are host. We are two cousins. 9 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,700 My name is Melissa. I'm Kelly. 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,800 Actually, I'm Mel also known as melon Kelly. 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,700 Yeah, yeah, I'm okay. People call me Kelly. 12 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,900 Yeah, I don't care if people call me Melissa as well, but 13 00:01:00,100 --> 00:01:02,000 What's in most of my friends call me Mal. 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:07,200 So if you feel close to me, you can say Mel has well you're all 15 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,500 close to us. But thank you guys so much for 16 00:01:11,500 --> 00:01:13,600 joining. This is a really special episode 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:19,100 because we're going to be joined later by Shannon McNamara of the 18 00:01:19,100 --> 00:01:22,000 podcast, fluently forward mmm-hmm. 19 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,300 Oh my God, this is crazy. This is really a world one 20 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:31,500 because we have been such big fans of her and her Podcast for 21 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:34,500 a while now. I've been listening to it for 22 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,900 like a year. I'm not sure when she started it 23 00:01:37,900 --> 00:01:40,700 but I have so many memories just walking around listening to her 24 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:42,800 podcast. I can't and I actually In My 25 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,500 Head Thought. Wow, I would love to collaborate 26 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:49,100 with her but I thought she was kind of like out of our league 27 00:01:49,100 --> 00:01:52,400 or so. Yeah, I think so and we 28 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,700 coincidentally we were invited to this event by glass box media 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,200 which was like a mixer. Yeah. 30 00:01:59,300 --> 00:02:03,800 Launch of their Podcast. And we were even saying before, 31 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:07,000 what if she was there? And she wouldn't be and then she 32 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,400 was, this is coincidences all it like humans and life is so like 33 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,300 Kismet the way everything like works out that way. 34 00:02:15,300 --> 00:02:18,800 And so we met her there. She was so nice. 35 00:02:19,100 --> 00:02:24,600 We also met Kelly of beyond the blinds who were also a big fan 36 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,300 of as well, and it's just so crazy as well because like 37 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:32,200 Shannon is my middle name. And then dip the Kelly is 38 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,800 Kelly's name. That's killing you crazy. 39 00:02:36,100 --> 00:02:37,800 Yeah. So, Shannon from fluently 40 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:43,500 forward, her podcast is a lot about blind items and not, you 41 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:49,100 know, the celebrity gossip that you don't hear about them under 42 00:02:49,100 --> 00:02:54,000 the covers, the underbelly of LA or whatever. 43 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,700 But she also talks a lot about conspiracy theories and just 44 00:02:56,700 --> 00:02:59,500 other topics that she explores, I really like her podcast. 45 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:03,300 Just Just using voice too. Yeah, and a lot of episode she 46 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:05,500 hosts by herself. I don't know how someone can do 47 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:07,700 that. I know it's really impressive to 48 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:12,100 me very brave. So she joins us today, we talked 49 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:15,100 about John Mayer, I'm Katy Perry. 50 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:19,500 But before we get into the episode are John Mayer. 51 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,100 Hurry! Yeah! 52 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:24,300 So we're going to we're going to do their little back story 53 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:27,400 before we get into the episode with Shannon. 54 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,800 But we already we've talked about John a lot. 55 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:35,400 Already on this podcast Mel covered John and Taylor you can 56 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,100 find that on our patreon if you're interested. 57 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,400 So I'm not really gonna get into John Mayer's, back story because 58 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,800 we already heard it and but I'll just remind you guys some things 59 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,300 that he was born October 16th 1977. 60 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:51,200 He's six foot three. I don't know. 61 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,500 I just feel like we're doing that. 62 00:03:52,600 --> 00:04:00,400 Yeah, I didn't know that. Is. 63 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:04,700 Yeah, and if it means anything to anybody, he's a Libra. 64 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,500 Hmm, I don't know. It's from Connecticut. 65 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:12,100 You know, you guys might be like I don't really know any songs by 66 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:13,600 him. I think you do. 67 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,600 You do gravity. Your body is Wonderland 68 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,300 daughter's. No such thing. 69 00:04:19,300 --> 00:04:21,800 That's the one. That's like I wanna run through 70 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,400 the halls of my high school. I'm gonna scream at the top of 71 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,200 my lungs. Yeah, I didn't doubt there's no 72 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,800 snitch. Thing as a real world. 73 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,400 Yep, Waiting on the World to Change. 74 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,300 That's a very pop that's like that was very commercialized. 75 00:04:38,300 --> 00:04:42,400 Stop This Train laughs, my heart and he's a lot of great new 76 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,400 songs, but I feel like those are like his more. 77 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:48,000 We just mean stream, we just saw him in concert in about a month 78 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,400 ago as well but it's a little awkward because most people hate 79 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,500 him. Yeah. 80 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,200 About most. I don't know what like the 81 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:02,200 average American but I feel like the average Young person online. 82 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,400 Yes, that is so chill. And like, I feel anyone who 83 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,500 remembers his Playboy article from back in the day about 84 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:12,500 Jessica Simpson but wasn't a fan of him. 85 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:15,300 They probably have a bad taste in their mouth, yank him. 86 00:05:15,300 --> 00:05:17,800 Any reasonable anybody who's a Taylor? 87 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,500 Swift fan hates them. Let me not anybody. 88 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:22,600 There might be a crossover actually myself. 89 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,800 Yeah, I think some people like both their music, they my friend 90 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,500 Jenny, hi, um, she likes both of their music. 91 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,000 Yeah. Yeah, because my ex-boyfriend 92 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,700 was obsessed with John Mayer. Yeah, I'm not doing this for 93 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:41,000 you, Jesse? Yeah, Yeah. 94 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,800 But yeah, it didn't, it didn't make me appreciate him a little 95 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,900 more. I never really paid too much 96 00:05:46,900 --> 00:05:49,100 attention to him. I was, I've been a big fan of 97 00:05:49,100 --> 00:05:54,600 John Mayer ever since my freshman year of college, I was 98 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,900 in English class and people had to dissect a song. 99 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:03,600 As if it was a poem and this Grand my class dissected, A John 100 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,800 Mayer song, I think it was Edge of Desire. 101 00:06:06,100 --> 00:06:09,800 I'm not sure and I just really I first of all I really admired 102 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,200 this girl she just had such a great energy about her and she 103 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,700 was such a big fan of John Mayer. 104 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:15,900 I wonder if she's listening Emerson College. 105 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:19,600 I don't remember your name but I think I'm for Facebook friends. 106 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,700 She was a very beautiful girl and she just had such a good 107 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:26,800 analysis of the song and it made me realize how beautiful the 108 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,800 song was and I just became a big John Mayer. 109 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,600 Our fan after that, and I was really hardcore crushing on the 110 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,700 guy who lived across the floor from me. 111 00:06:36,100 --> 00:06:40,800 And the song Edge of Desire, really resonated? 112 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,100 Oh yeah at the time. Like maybe this say a word I'm 113 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:46,300 over in like here with me. Yeah. 114 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:50,200 Maybe this mattress will spin on its axis and find me on yours. 115 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:56,400 Like if you're ever deeply in your feels about somebody that 116 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:02,500 song will just hit you too. Your core and that made me 117 00:07:02,500 --> 00:07:06,500 really obsessed with John Mayer and he even with that song and 118 00:07:06,500 --> 00:07:11,500 of desire, he has a live version from 2010 where he gives a 119 00:07:11,508 --> 00:07:17,400 speech before the song. Oh, you're if you're like really 120 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,900 feeling it for somebody, I beg you on YouTube, watch that clip 121 00:07:22,900 --> 00:07:25,400 egg. I still to this day, watch it 122 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,000 like once a month and it makes it hard for me to hate John 123 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,900 Mayer. I mean, he has such a reputation 124 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:40,100 as being a ladies man, fuck boy, but everyone called Playboy, he 125 00:07:40,108 --> 00:07:42,500 does seem like a romantic at the same time. 126 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:47,900 And, and then, as her Katy Perry, I used to love her. 127 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,000 Like I loved her as a huge fan of like her. 128 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,400 One of the boys CD and I saw her in concert with my Dad. 129 00:07:56,700 --> 00:07:59,600 Yeah, I didn't know that my dad actually hide that if you're 130 00:07:59,608 --> 00:08:03,600 listening I remember he told me he was like fantasizing about 131 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:09,700 leaving the show with her because I was his celebrity 132 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:11,800 crush. We might you know my dad's 133 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:18,500 Christ who Gwen Stefani. Oh wow really you know I feel 134 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:23,500 like she doesn't look too. Has her hair really interesting? 135 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,600 My dad because my mom really wants us to do Gwen and Blake 136 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,400 Shelton. If you guys want that, I'll do 137 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,400 it but But my dad is like, I hate them together. 138 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,299 She's way too good for him. Who does your dad? 139 00:08:37,299 --> 00:08:39,500 Think she should be with? I don't know. 140 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:42,100 He was the other day at dinner. He was talking about how she 141 00:08:42,100 --> 00:08:44,100 used to be with the guitarist, from no doubt. 142 00:08:44,100 --> 00:08:45,600 I'm like, oh, wow. Yeah, that's true. 143 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,800 It's like, you really know a lot more about this than I would 144 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,600 expect you to know that I would actually be a good episode. 145 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,100 Yeah, the guitar is I feel like that's interesting because 146 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:57,700 that's what the whole song and don't speak is about to, my dad 147 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:04,500 was like, how did you know? My dad told me that too like 148 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:08,200 janek's, baby boomer? Yeah thing. 149 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:11,800 But, um, anyway yeah, Katie I loved her music. 150 00:09:12,500 --> 00:09:15,300 I feel this doing this research made me a little bit sad because 151 00:09:15,300 --> 00:09:20,000 I realized I really fell off her but I think I music just change. 152 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,300 Yeah, I don't think adopted with the times, well enough, but I 153 00:09:24,300 --> 00:09:29,300 feel like it also became really generic and job copy like Roar. 154 00:09:29,300 --> 00:09:30,700 I don't know. Oh yeah. 155 00:09:30,900 --> 00:09:32,400 That's when I stopped liking her knee. 156 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,600 She fall into that trap that people did with the 157 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,500 inspirational, and everybody had to be inspirational. 158 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:44,200 Yeah, I just, I think that sometimes people get really big 159 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,900 and then their lyrics to start to get very generic. 160 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:52,100 It was just a bunch of sing. I wanna see you be brave about a 161 00:09:52,100 --> 00:09:56,000 Allah, it's a see there's the same time as that song. 162 00:09:56,700 --> 00:09:59,800 But what's that girl Taylor Swift endorsed her base? 163 00:10:00,300 --> 00:10:04,300 All right, so this is my fight song. 164 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,200 Take Back. We Bucky he also had Firework. 165 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:12,400 And what, how did Virgo that firework was still on her? 166 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,500 What's it called? Teenage Dream album. 167 00:10:14,500 --> 00:10:16,600 Yeah, I still like to move dream. 168 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,600 I think I bought that. So yeah, Tina was a good album, 169 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:24,600 but then prism is when I don't know, I think that she just 170 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,600 started a phone in this Roar go. Um, oh wait, wait. 171 00:10:29,900 --> 00:10:34,800 See me, bro? It's very commercial. 172 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,000 Yeah, yeah. That's a far different from. 173 00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:47,100 You're so gay and you don't even like, boys. 174 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,600 You're gonna hang yourself with your H and M. 175 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,800 Star is very edgy. Yeah. 176 00:10:56,900 --> 00:10:59,500 I loved her and Lily Allen at the same time. 177 00:10:59,500 --> 00:11:00,800 Nice. I think they were kind of the 178 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,100 same like Lily Allen was the British version. 179 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,900 Yeah they're both very cheeky cheeky girls she really strayed 180 00:11:08,900 --> 00:11:11,900 from the yeah you stop being very cheeky. 181 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,200 Hmm. But anyway John Mayer you know 182 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,400 do a little this is a reminder was dating history, whatever, 183 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,100 you know, everyone. Most people know he did. 184 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:25,200 Jessica Simpson Jennifer Aniston apparently. 185 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,200 I didn't really know about this though. 186 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,700 He briefly dated makeup artist Reena hammer and Tony. 187 00:11:29,900 --> 00:11:32,000 Attend and Renee Zellweger in 2011. 188 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,900 I don't even think I said that in my episode, but like, I 189 00:11:34,908 --> 00:11:38,000 don't, who knows, if it's really true and supposedly secret 190 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,700 relationship with shenae Grimes, for the grasses on Degrassi. 191 00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:42,400 Yeah. RC. 192 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,100 Um, and then I also read that Kim Kardashian was linked to 193 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:49,200 John Mayer after they were spotted out in New York in 2010. 194 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:52,200 I didn't know that either. And yeah, John, you know, he had 195 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,200 this reputation of being a bad boy but he had has been quoted. 196 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,200 Many times saying he wanted to have a girlfriend wants to make 197 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,900 a connection with someone. Seems like he was having trouble 198 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:04,900 around this time. So yeah. 199 00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:07,200 Katy Perry, let's get into her backstory. 200 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:12,800 So Catherine, Elizabeth Hudson is her name, born October 25th 201 00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:18,500 1984, so she's a Scorpio me too. She was born in Santa Barbara, 202 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:21,900 California, and her parents are Pentecostal pastors. 203 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,200 Apparently, both her parents became pastors after a while 204 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,200 youths, which I just thought was interesting. 205 00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:29,200 I don't know. It's like they, they had a crazy 206 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:34,800 getup like, Like time and then they decided to turn to Jesus so 207 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,800 they don't know. She has English, German Irish 208 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,700 and Portuguese ancestry. Oh, we have to afford two out of 209 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 four of those Irish in Portuguese. 210 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,400 To I feel like I can see it. Mmm. 211 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,800 Yeah. She seems really big eyes. 212 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,600 Yeah. I feel like Portuguese people 213 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,200 have a big. What did I? 214 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,600 Yeah. Hmm. 215 00:12:53,700 --> 00:12:55,800 Yep. She has an older sister named 216 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,100 Angela and younger brother named David. 217 00:12:58,700 --> 00:13:01,200 They moved a lot. Oh classic know. 218 00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:05,000 All these celebrities and you want to be famous, guys, or it 219 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 might be too late for you, but if you want your kid to be 220 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,700 famous than move around a lot. If you grew up in the same house 221 00:13:10,700 --> 00:13:13,600 your whole life. There's no chance for you. 222 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:17,600 Sorry. They moved around a lot. 223 00:13:17,700 --> 00:13:21,000 My family is very religious and strict and they didn't have a 224 00:13:21,008 --> 00:13:24,900 lot of money and apparently they used food stamps even but they 225 00:13:24,900 --> 00:13:27,300 mostly lived in Santa Barbara. Like I think they would move to 226 00:13:27,300 --> 00:13:29,700 other places and then come back. But Santa Barbara and then leave 227 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:32,700 and then come back. She wasn't allowed to listen to 228 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:35,500 secular music at all. And I guess hearing the song you 229 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:37,700 ought to know really influenced her. 230 00:13:37,700 --> 00:13:41,300 I can see that I fits. She does seem very heavily 231 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:43,800 influenced by Alanis Morissette. Yeah. 232 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,200 Especially like that album one of the boys. 233 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,500 It's a lot more like guitar-driven. 234 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:50,700 Yeah. Trying to be edgy and stuff. 235 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,200 And she would sneak CDs from her friends because she wasn't 236 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,400 allowed to buy secular music. She sang in the choir. 237 00:13:58,500 --> 00:14:00,400 Wire. She took singing lessons and she 238 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,700 got a guitar at age 13 when she was a little bit older, she went 239 00:14:04,700 --> 00:14:08,100 to Nashville and recorded demos and got signed to some label. 240 00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:12,000 And she had a debut album in 2001 called Katy Hudson, which 241 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,700 was a contemporary Christian album but then she, it didn't 242 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:18,500 really have that much success and she changed her name to 243 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:20,800 Parry, which is her mom's maiden name. 244 00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:24,000 Mmm, I think is a good stage name, you know. 245 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:27,400 I think mom's maiden name, like, it's almost her real name. 246 00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:30,100 Yeah. It's not like she just totally 247 00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:32,900 made up a new name. Yeah. 248 00:14:32,900 --> 00:14:37,800 So then she moved to LA at age 17 and she transition to secular 249 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,200 music. She worked on the record called 250 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,300 fingerprints. And some of those songs later 251 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:45,800 made it onto her album. One of the boys, and she's sold 252 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,300 some songs. She wrote to other artists. 253 00:14:47,300 --> 00:14:49,800 Like I do not hook up to Kelly Clarkson. 254 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:52,900 Yeah. Which I think is so funny 255 00:14:52,900 --> 00:14:57,300 because it's just so interesting that she was a Christian artist 256 00:14:57,300 --> 00:15:02,000 and then has a song that like I do not hook up like, you know, 257 00:15:02,500 --> 00:15:07,100 it is kind of pretty rude and judgmental people who do hook 258 00:15:07,100 --> 00:15:07,900 up. Yeah. 259 00:15:07,900 --> 00:15:10,900 But it's just so interesting because I'm later in her career. 260 00:15:10,900 --> 00:15:15,500 She was perceived as so much more sexual and you know, Bon 261 00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:18,900 Appetit, it's like people eating her body reason I. 262 00:15:18,900 --> 00:15:22,500 So it's just crazy how much she changed to a lot of like, you 263 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:24,500 know, musical starts and stops afflict the happens. 264 00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:28,400 A lot, you know, like you're signed to a label and they drop 265 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:31,200 You and then you start another project and yeah, it doesn't 266 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,400 work and, you know, Shadow out of stuff like that going on 267 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:39,300 working with a lot of producers in 2006, you didn't Travie McCoy 268 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:42,500 from Gym Class Heroes and is in the music video for Cupid's 269 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:45,500 Chokehold. I I love that song that can 270 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:50,300 middle school and remember it is that like to the left to the 271 00:15:50,300 --> 00:15:52,700 left? No, that's not for you to shop. 272 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,200 This is this is the song that's like, take a look at my 273 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,300 girlfriend girlfriend. She's the only one. 274 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,500 One I got. Oh, yeah, yeah. 275 00:16:00,900 --> 00:16:03,700 I know, I wasn't the only one who originally thought it was. 276 00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:09,400 I know, it seems that's one of those songs where you would 277 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,600 think. The name is, maybe like, take a 278 00:16:11,608 --> 00:16:14,300 look at my girlfriend. Something is called girlfriend. 279 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,200 No, it's Cupid's Chokehold. She was dropped a Columbia 280 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,600 Records. And then she was signed by 281 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,900 Capitol Records. Apparently, the chairman there. 282 00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:26,300 Jason Flom was convinced that she could become a star and he 283 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:28,300 paired her with dr. Luke. 284 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,800 And they wrote. I Kissed a Girl and hot and cold 285 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,700 together. Is he the Kusha guy? 286 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,800 Yep. Yeah, yep. 287 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,100 And they those songs were on the EP you're so gay. 288 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,100 That was not hold up to it. Would never fly. 289 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:46,200 Would never fly. I know I have the CD just in 290 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,500 case that song ever gets taken down, really good. 291 00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:53,000 It's definitely not PC when you say you're so gay. 292 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,600 Do you realize what you say? Knock it off. 293 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,300 Hillary dumb. Yeah, yeah. 294 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,400 Yeah, so then she had the album one of the boys in 2008. 295 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,500 In this this really was a hit album. 296 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:06,500 Had I kissed a girl hot and cold. 297 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:10,700 You're so gay thinking of you and Waking Up in Vegas. 298 00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:14,700 I mean, you're so gay wasn't that big of a hit but that's 299 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:18,500 like five singles. Yeah, hot and cold was humoring 300 00:17:18,500 --> 00:17:20,400 you. That's like--that's to me, like 301 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:23,300 seventh grade. Yep, her and Travie, McCoy broke 302 00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:25,800 up in 2008, but then they got back together then we broke up 303 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,400 again. In 2009. 304 00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:32,200 She met Became engaged to Russell Brand 2009 and in 2010. 305 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,400 That's when her album Teenage Dream came out with the songs, 306 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,400 Teenage Dream, California Gurls, ET Last Friday Night. 307 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,800 The One That Got Away and Firework, those are big hits. 308 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:49,500 She was on last Friday night. Yeah, we danced on tabletops. 309 00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:54,800 Think We Kissed, But I forgot. Oh, they were all such big hits 310 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,300 crazy. The One That Got Away. 311 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,500 Way. So yeah, that's basically that's 312 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:03,200 background. And then now we have our 313 00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:06,600 interview with Shannon. Can I get my hair from fluently 314 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,300 forward? Here it is. 315 00:18:09,700 --> 00:18:12,400 Well, welcome, Shannon. To the podcast. 316 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,700 We're so happy to have you on. Yeah. 317 00:18:15,700 --> 00:18:19,500 Hey guys, happy to be here. There's mock relationships, I 318 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:21,600 love the name of your podcast. Cool concept. 319 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,400 It's awesome. Thank you. 320 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:27,000 Yeah. We that was hard for us to come 321 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,200 up with the name. What about How did you come up 322 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,200 with fluently forward? Oh my God. 323 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,500 It was like a, it was a Tumblr URL. 324 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:36,900 I had back in high school and everyone used to like change 325 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:39,300 because people wrote everything on their Tumblr, it was 326 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:42,700 basically like a diary and then you would just like change the 327 00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:45,400 url once people found it. So then that way it was like a 328 00:18:45,408 --> 00:18:48,800 secret. And I had, like, all of these 329 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,000 different. I don't know phrases that I 330 00:18:51,008 --> 00:18:53,400 thought were so cool. And fluently forward was one of 331 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,000 them and I don't know it just like stayed with me. 332 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,300 So then that was what I started my tick tock on. 333 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,500 On. And by the time it grew, I was 334 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:02,700 like, well, if I change my username, No One's Gonna Know 335 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:04,700 it. So I don't know, it's just 336 00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:07,400 random but I like the alliteration I should know this 337 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,500 works. Did you start off just doing 338 00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:12,700 take talks and then made the podcast after yeah. 339 00:19:12,700 --> 00:19:16,800 Tick-tocks all about like blind items and I know not like I 340 00:19:16,808 --> 00:19:20,100 don't I'm not really on Tick-Tock anymore but I know now 341 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:23,900 there's tons of people doing Tick-Tock or like blind item 342 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:27,600 tick-tocks which is a little bit spicy because I feel like I feel 343 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,100 like there's a lot of Whose entire content is just reading 344 00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:34,400 somebody's blind item and I'm like, okay, that is you gotta 345 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,600 like give a shout out or put your own opinion in there to 346 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,400 make it a story otherwise I'd if I was NT, I would be like I'm 347 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,200 going to go on a rampage and like these accounts that's so 348 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,500 funny though because I feel like that ended up being such good 349 00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:51,700 marketing for your podcast but unintentionally. 350 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,600 Yeah, it worked. Well, I'm really thankful to 351 00:19:53,608 --> 00:19:56,600 tick tock that's why I like, you know, now if it got deleted I'm 352 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,100 like oh that's fine, but yeah. I would have been like 353 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:01,400 absolutely not like we need this app to sticker. 354 00:20:03,300 --> 00:20:06,600 I know I saw on your account that you said something about 355 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,900 not really doing find items as much anymore. 356 00:20:08,900 --> 00:20:11,400 So I feel bad that we asked you to do it. 357 00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:14,100 Oh no, like I said, love to work them in. 358 00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:17,100 I just don't like making Tick Tock videos about them anymore 359 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:19,200 because people would be like do it on this person. 360 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,200 Do it on that person and I think on Tick-Tock or just like 361 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,600 short-form media in general people take something and run 362 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,400 with it. So, on a podcast episode you 363 00:20:27,408 --> 00:20:30,800 could be like, oh, There's blind items about Bella Hadid and 364 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,300 drugs, but here's what she said, here's what they said. 365 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:35,600 Here's what I think. And if you just read that, blind 366 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,500 item on Tick Tock, then a bunch of kids, go crazy with it and 367 00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:40,500 they're like a bella Hadid. Are you on drugs? 368 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:43,000 And it's like who I want to be a part of that, you know. 369 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,700 Yeah, exactly. And you can add like Nuance to 370 00:20:45,700 --> 00:20:49,100 it and and plus like in a short Sound by people just like take 371 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:52,000 that as your opinion and yeah like fighting you you're like in 372 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,200 the episode. I talked about this is like 373 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,800 crazy when you put out like a clip of an episode and they're 374 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,500 like wow. I'll also these five. 375 00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:02,300 Yeah, you're gonna my no I researched it. 376 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:08,100 I feel bad because of split the duties. 377 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:11,100 Like I edit the podcast and she does more like the marketing I 378 00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:14,000 guess and I feel bad that you have to see that only always 379 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,700 told her, I don't really know, but it's okay. 380 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,700 But yeah. So today we're talking about 381 00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:22,200 Katy Perry and John Mayer and so John Mayer. 382 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,900 He's such a reoccurring character on our podcast 383 00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:28,000 somehow, he always comes up into every single episode like he's a 384 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,100 All the time. He's like a person in the 385 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:34,200 background and he ends up like, in an article about somebody. 386 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,900 And, and even if he's not in the episode, we find a way to relate 387 00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:41,400 everything to John Mayer and we have these like your third 388 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,300 co-host. He doesn't even know it, but 389 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:45,500 yeah, he gets credit. Yeah, you really is. 390 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:49,000 We have such a soft spot for him too, and I know that pretty much 391 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,600 everybody doesn't like him. You guys told me that and that 392 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,900 blew me away because so many people and even before Taylor 393 00:21:55,900 --> 00:21:58,600 Swift, like just with Jessica Simpson and Jennifer, Aniston 394 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,200 alone, people were like this man's the Antichrist. 395 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,400 So, yeah, I'm dying to hear like, what makes you John Mayer 396 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,400 apologist? Well, first of all, I feel like 397 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,100 if you were watching a teen drama, like he's the character 398 00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:14,400 like the good-looking guy who's you know, like the Chuck Bass 399 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,100 like yeah, he's an asshole, but he's complicated and it's 400 00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:20,600 complicated. Like you kind of like him for 401 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,500 his faults and I don't think anything he's done. 402 00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:28,100 Has been like terribly awful. Looking terribly awful? 403 00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:29,800 Yeah. It's been pretty bad. 404 00:22:29,900 --> 00:22:34,100 Yeah, but it is like standard douche behavior and I write if 405 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:36,800 he was on the CW, we'd be like I can fix him. 406 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,100 Yes, exactly. And like what you see, is what 407 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:42,300 you get? I think like you know, that he's 408 00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:45,600 not a great guy but like I'm is all these other like he's not 409 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,500 well maybe he was pretending to be nicer than he is. 410 00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:53,300 But yeah, I just think like we can expect that kind of behavior 411 00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:55,000 from him by now. Like we don't have to act 412 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,800 shocked by it. Maybe that's like giving him a 413 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,900 pass. I don't know. 414 00:22:57,900 --> 00:22:59,800 Maybe It's not good. Who would you rather? 415 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,500 Would you rather John Mayer, who's a douche upfront? 416 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:05,900 Or some guy with like glasses and San Francisco? 417 00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:07,500 Who's like, oh like I'm ethically. 418 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:10,400 Non-monogamous. I'm like, I'm like a feminist so 419 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,000 that's why. I like how you should give me 420 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,800 head first. And it's like, okay, you're 421 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,000 actually a duchenne disguise and John. 422 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,600 Mayer's, like here I am. Yeah of committee, I'm gonna. 423 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,500 Yeah, and people really take what he says and spin it. 424 00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:25,300 Like I know he was on call her daddy. 425 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,700 He said something about like committed Talk about serenading 426 00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:32,600 his dates like naked with a guitar and stuff and it was 427 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,200 obviously a joke and then people were like, oh my God, he's such 428 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,400 a creep like probably the Taylor Swift episode, like I feel like 429 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,400 that really made us a little bit more sympathetic for him because 430 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:48,000 I know the age difference is bad but there's really actually know 431 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,100 that much evidence that they dated. 432 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,900 Okay, they are none. Have you heard the Martin 433 00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:54,500 Johnson Theater? Yes. 434 00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:56,100 Yes. Okay. 435 00:23:56,100 --> 00:24:00,100 So like I'm really curious when speak Now rerecords, come out is 436 00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:02,200 John Mayer. I feel like he's got to say 437 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,900 something and I feel like he's going to say hi. 438 00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:07,900 We actually never dated. Yeah, please, I'd like to be 439 00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:09,700 removed from this narrative things. 440 00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:14,000 I did say that he kind of did say, like I didn't do anything 441 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,800 wrong, and then Taylor Swift was asked about that. 442 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,500 And I was like, well, if he thinks it's about him, then then 443 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:23,500 he must have done something. When it's like not that he 444 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:27,300 thinks it's about him, everybody thinks it's about help. 445 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,400 I think I remember she was like, oh, he thinks it's about him, 446 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,200 how presumptuous, which was so Hermione Granger. 447 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,500 Are, you know, it's like it's the name like just within that 448 00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:41,400 timeline. Like, she's also dating Taylor 449 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,500 Lautner's. Like, how does it really line up 450 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:45,500 like? Oh yeah, it doesn't make sense. 451 00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:48,600 Yeah, if you actually put all the dates together, oops, you 452 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,100 put the dates together. It seems like she was dating 453 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:58,300 Taylor at the same time. So, yeah, well - so yeah, but I 454 00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:00,500 think we wanted to do this episode because yeah, John has a 455 00:25:00,508 --> 00:25:06,800 reputation for being such a Playboy but it seems like from 456 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,200 outside. He was really in love with Katy, 457 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,200 Perry will see what it was actually like. 458 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,100 I mean we don't know what it was actually like but we'll see how 459 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:21,100 the relationship went. Yeah, he often talks about 460 00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:24,100 wanting to be married or, you know, he wishes he had a 461 00:25:24,108 --> 00:25:27,800 long-term partner and he has his kind of sad. 462 00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:31,400 Add 5 to himself to. So, yeah, I would you say that's 463 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,800 why you wanted to do this episode? 464 00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:36,100 Yeah, I think so. I also, I am a fan of his music, 465 00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:40,300 which definitely influences my bad mean he's like a freak with 466 00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:43,400 that guitar. He do anything with it like I 467 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,800 can't deny. He's like insanely talented, 468 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,200 he's he's really talented. He's got like the brooding dark 469 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,800 feature, musician type thing going for him and I agree with 470 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,300 you. It is weird how with the whole 471 00:25:56,300 --> 00:25:59,900 Narrative of Taylor Swift. He So, avoidant and unavailable 472 00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:02,300 and also like, you know, things that other woman have said about 473 00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:05,400 him and then all of a sudden, you see him wearing matching 474 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,100 sweaters with Katy Perry on the Ellen show, and so many people 475 00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:11,200 and they talk about the Taylor Swift. 476 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,500 Katy Perry Feud they're like, backup dancers, backup dancers. 477 00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:17,100 I'm like, you don't think it had anything to do with the fact 478 00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:20,300 that you couldn't tie this man down and then he's wearing a 479 00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:22,700 matching sweater with Katy. Perry like later. 480 00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:26,400 So true that would bug me like I'd certainly be thinking about 481 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,300 it. So yeah, maybe there's a There. 482 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,500 That's so true. It is crazy. 483 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:33,700 The two of them had such feuds with Taylor Swift. 484 00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:36,900 It's very interesting. Yeah, here's the thing, like she 485 00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:39,800 has a lot of feuds with people like, yeah. 486 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,900 I know of all of her feuds, but if I have to think of who, I 487 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:48,100 don't know, even like Kim Kardashian, she's feuded with 488 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:50,200 Taylor Swift. But who else has she feuded 489 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,700 with? Like I just can't really Taylor 490 00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:54,700 Swift. I mean there's a lot of drama 491 00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:57,700 around her and we'd that's what true about Katy Perry because I 492 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,100 Taylor Swift feuds with people by association like with 493 00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:02,700 Scooter, Braun. It's like just because he was 494 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:06,700 associated with Kanye. West, even like Justin Bieber 495 00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:08,500 just because they were associated with him. 496 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,900 Yeah, it's like I wonder if like just because Katy Perry was 497 00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:14,800 dating her ex or like dating, someone who wronged her. 498 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,600 It's like everyone has to pick a side. 499 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,300 Yeah. You're my team are, there's 500 00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:25,100 yeah, maybe mmm. But so what like how would you 501 00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:27,700 describe this couple Katy Perry and John Mayer? 502 00:27:27,700 --> 00:27:30,000 Like in three words oh yeah. We usually do the thing with 503 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,800 this thing where we describe a couple and three words I would 504 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,500 say fun. Oh God. 505 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,700 Deep because it seems like they had deep feelings for each 506 00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:43,700 other. But I'd also say unstable, we 507 00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:49,100 always end with the negative 1. Yeah, song they did together. 508 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,200 Was it who you love? Is a very Like tampon commercial 509 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,400 like music video kind of lovable? 510 00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:00,400 Yes. Yeah, and they like they weren't 511 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,500 afraid to do all of these couple things together that most 512 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:06,400 Hollywood couples stray away from because they know that 513 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,400 eventually they're going to break up and it's going to haunt 514 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,600 them. Right? 515 00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:13,200 Right, huh. Well should we get into the 516 00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:18,400 timeline? Okay, John Mayer and Katy Perry. 517 00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:24,600 Okay, I always thought that they met 2014 around that time 518 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,100 started dating. But I came across this article 519 00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:31,000 from today, about how they actually met and hung out the 520 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,600 night before she met Russell Brand. 521 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,700 Little like 22, serendipitous to be true, but it came out, the 522 00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:42,500 article came out in 2010, but this would have been 2009. 523 00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:47,600 How I guess she met John Mayer at a bar in New York after they 524 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,300 were sending flirty texts to each other for a couple weeks. 525 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,600 And this is the source. From any news at the time, it's 526 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,000 that they never met in person and she went to meet him there. 527 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,500 At the bar after she was out of Jay-Z concert at Madison Square 528 00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:04,200 Garden. John had been at the Jay-Z 529 00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:07,100 concert for performance and asked Katie to meet up later 530 00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:09,700 that night. And then it said, John thought 531 00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:13,200 she was so hot and fun and to her, they were so flirty, and 532 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,200 all over each other that night. At the bar, they really liked 533 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,100 each other. The personalities, just clicked 534 00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:18,200 and they were flirting and dancing. 535 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,100 And it was on. But apparently, the next day 536 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,100 that was the VM. Is and Russell Brand was hosting 537 00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:27,700 it and she met him there and then they started talking. 538 00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:30,100 And then they got married and John Mayer. 539 00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:33,400 Just kind of got forgotten mmm-hmm. 540 00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:35,000 Yeah, isn't that one? John? 541 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,000 Mayer's reputation was really bad too, because yes, it's right 542 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,900 after the Playboy, article had come out. 543 00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:43,000 Yeah. It's like Off the Grid while, so 544 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,700 don't you wonder. Do you like, they met up at a 545 00:29:44,708 --> 00:29:47,000 bar? I'm like what bar? 546 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,800 Like if you're famous people like, is it a members-only bar, 547 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,600 is it just like so expensive? Civ that people won't bother 548 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,400 you. Like, I always want to know the 549 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,000 details, I know apparently was called, I have written down gold 550 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000 bar. I don't know where that is. 551 00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:06,500 It was 2009. So who knows if it like even 552 00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:10,900 exist anymore? But yeah, I know I'm always I 553 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,800 for this episode. I was looking up like, 554 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,800 restaurants, they went to a stop because I was so curious. 555 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:18,600 Oh, okay, it's like a nightclub and it's got the four dollar 556 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,500 sign. So. 557 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,200 All right, doesn't matter. Not for us. 558 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:24,800 Yeah. So then choose with Russell 559 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,500 Brand and they were married but then they got divorced. 560 00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:32,700 February 2012 is when they reach their divorce settlement and 561 00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:35,200 then around the same time, what? John was up to? 562 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,400 He he had all the drama that Taylor Swift. 563 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,700 That was like, around this time he also had horde granular 564 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,800 record granuloma, which is a non cancerous mass that grows on her 565 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,100 vocal cords so he wasn't able to sing and had to get. 566 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,800 Like all this treatment done to it. 567 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,200 So he was kind of not performing not touring or anything that's 568 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,200 sad. And yeah, I remember when Tove 569 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,200 Lo had like something on her vocal cords and she couldn't, 570 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,200 she didn't speak for like two months. 571 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,000 She just carried around a notepad with her and she said it 572 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,700 was like such a traumatic experience is right. 573 00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:15,000 Like that's your livelihood and it could be on. 574 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,600 It's like, you don't know. Yeah. 575 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,000 That must be the same thing as John because I think he also 576 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,800 couldn't talk and had to just right. 577 00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:26,200 Brutal. Yeah, I know and then I read 578 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,700 that Katie after Russell Brand was apparently dating the 579 00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:33,300 guitarist of Florence and the Machine, but I think it was just 580 00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:37,800 a casual thing, I don't know. But then Katie and John, their 581 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:43,300 first rumors of them. Dating came up in July 2012, 582 00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:46,600 there were things in tabloids like daily mail saying that they 583 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,100 had hooked up and at this time Katie was 27 and John was 34. 584 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,500 Funny. So why do I imagine I just 585 00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:57,500 always think Katie. Barry is older than she is. 586 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:05,100 Maybe she was already divorced me because I'm, I'm 28. 587 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:12,800 Oh my God, I can't believe this wild 2734 okay. 588 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:18,500 Well, he's moving up from 19. So they were appropriate. 589 00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:22,900 Yeah, I was wondering if like he we don't know maybe I texted her 590 00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:25,700 because she was a divorced now. Like, I don't know how they got 591 00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:29,100 back in touch, but they were hanging out and then there's all 592 00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:31,000 these articles coming out of them together. 593 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,900 There's a picture of them and it card. 594 00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:36,500 John's driving, he's smiling. He has long hair. 595 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,600 Apparently, they went out to dinner Pace restaurant and Ela, 596 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,100 and Chateau Marmont for a drink. And I was thinking that he kind 597 00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:46,300 of looks like Russell Brand. No, I was just thinking that 598 00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:47,900 too. And he has long hair and he kind 599 00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:51,200 of looks like Orlando Bloom to. Yeah, she likes long hair. 600 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,400 She doesn't like a Is military cut? 601 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,000 Yeah, so yeah, they're together. There's stories that they're all 602 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,100 over each other making out at a pool and Beverly Hills there. 603 00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:05,200 Seen together, Bunch John's often wearing, a wide brim hat. 604 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,900 Oh my God, his hat era. I hated that. 605 00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:12,800 I hate guys. In half Enrique Iglesias, does 606 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,100 it? Ian Somerhalder? 607 00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:17,200 Does it, like, why are you wearing that? 608 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,200 Remember when Harry Styles, had the long hair and the hat? 609 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,900 Maybe it's just like a thing that will Is go through. 610 00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:25,700 I think it makes sense, if they're balding, of course. 611 00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:30,300 But if to have your hair I don't really understand the point. 612 00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:32,800 Especially if there's a chance you might lose it eventually. 613 00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:36,200 Also we think like it covers the baldness but I think it it 614 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,900 disrupts the hair so it's like yeah. 615 00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:41,300 Easier for other things to fall out like true. 616 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,700 Yeah. Because he's going for the whole 617 00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:52,000 Western thing Montana in Montana, I don't even know. 618 00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:53,800 He. Yeah, he did. 619 00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:55,900 Well I don't know if he does all the time but he at least like 620 00:33:55,900 --> 00:34:00,700 has a house I think after all the bad reputation going on he 621 00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:02,000 yeah. He's like I'm gonna go jerk off 622 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,500 in the balance amount anyone. Yeah. 623 00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:07,900 Moved to Montana A source. Told people. 624 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,699 They almost acted like they've been a couple for a long time 625 00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:13,600 and definitely didn't seem like a new relationship and their 626 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,600 reports. They're having sleepovers at his 627 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:21,500 house, which is very normal for him sleep over it voids, write 628 00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:24,600 something. Slumber party at John Mayer. 629 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,199 You're like, okay, they're having a doll. 630 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:31,500 But whatever she brought her pet Ooh, yeah. 631 00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:40,400 Some July August, but later in August it was reported that it 632 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,600 was over. Oh alrighty already know it so 633 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,600 it only lasted what like a couple months? 634 00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:50,199 Hang on, guys. Okay, I thought the same thing 635 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,100 when I started researching this, I was like, oh no wait a second. 636 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,600 This is only like Adam wonderfully efficient ship but 637 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,600 no they broke up but they cannot together. 638 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,100 Yeah, they broke up. Um, I thought this is kind of 639 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:05,500 funny E online. Someone named Natalie, Finn 640 00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:08,000 wrote Katy Perry and John Mayer don't seem to be doing whatever 641 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,600 it was. They were doing any more 642 00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,400 sleepovers. Yeah. 643 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,500 One source told people, they'd end up as friends and that it 644 00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:19,200 wasn't serious, but another source said that Katie was 645 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,300 really upset. John did a number on her. 646 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,800 I will say, that's probably true. 647 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,000 He seems that the guy that doesn't number on you. 648 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,900 I know. I don't know and he cut his hair 649 00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:33,200 actually. Oh my God, little breakup cut. 650 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,900 Yeah. Yeah, he's starting your new but 651 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,100 okay. A couple weeks later it was back 652 00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:42,600 on. I guess that's until this, the 653 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,400 sex is good. I'm like, okay. 654 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,100 Like I already dated him. They were, they were seen at the 655 00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:52,900 fyf festival in a light which I didn't know stood for fuck. 656 00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:56,800 Yeah, Fest. Never heard of that before, and 657 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,600 it only exists anymore. But that is just so 2012, I 658 00:36:00,607 --> 00:36:07,800 think, Everything was fuck. Yeah, yeah, John was wearing a 659 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,700 cowboy hat. Had his arms around Katie, who's 660 00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:15,400 in a floral dress, so 2012, and they went to a strip club 661 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,000 together in Las Vegas. They're pictures of their with 662 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,200 friends and they were there till 5 a.m. that seems like an 663 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,500 activity. They would do today. 664 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,300 So, October, it's both. This is 2012 still. 665 00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:33,800 It's both of their birthdays or both October babies. 666 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,700 I'm not really, I don't know if you're interested ology. 667 00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:41,200 I don't really know anything about it, but October is he's a 668 00:36:41,207 --> 00:36:41,900 Libra. I guess. 669 00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:44,600 And she's a Scorpio. So they're different signs are 670 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,500 different? Yeah. 671 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:47,800 I don't know anything about. I don't know. 672 00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:52,100 I know like Levi's are balanced. Scorpios are like a little bit 673 00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:55,200 like secretive. So is he the Scorpio? 674 00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:58,200 No, she's years. I'm a Scorpio is what. 675 00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:01,700 But yeah. So it was both. 676 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,800 It's that must've been fun for them, both of their birth. 677 00:37:03,900 --> 00:37:06,900 Days in October. They celebrate his at ABC 678 00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:10,200 Kitchen in New York and then she does, she has vampire. 679 00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:12,400 Oh you've been there? Yeah, it's good spot but it's 680 00:37:12,408 --> 00:37:14,700 like not super. It's like kind of I mean it's 681 00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:17,400 expensive but it's not like I always imagined celebrities are 682 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,000 only eating plates that are like each entrees, $200, you can get 683 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,500 something there for like 30. That's cool down a little down 684 00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:26,800 to earth. Yeah. 685 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,000 Apparently, who knows what they really did that, but she had a 686 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,800 vampire themed birthday party. Love those pictures. 687 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,600 Them. Yeah, because we love vampires. 688 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,300 There's pictures of them being very kissy and smiling. 689 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:44,600 He's for some reason I think dresses. 690 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,700 Woody Harrelson's character from Zombieland, which okay, the one 691 00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:50,800 who was like, into Twinkies. I remember that. 692 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,600 That's like, but that's zombies, but I don't know, maybe he liked 693 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,600 was confused. Kristen Stewart was there? 694 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,600 Oh wow. Did she just go with herself? 695 00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:03,800 I am the vampire. Maybe that's it. 696 00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:07,500 Same time, KD and Russell were actually at the same Lakers game 697 00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:10,900 Russell Brand but apparently, they didn't interact. 698 00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:12,800 Okay. Well, cold shoulder. 699 00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:16,600 They go to Santa Barbara and maybe meet Katie's parents 700 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,800 because that's where she's from. They're just seen out and about 701 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,800 a lot together. And I thought this was funny in 702 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,500 December 2012. She posted a picture of John 703 00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:29,400 dressed as Santa and he's just making this such a sultry 704 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,300 expression. He's like posing like this. 705 00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:41,300 Thank you. And I go see some people being 706 00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:43,900 creeped out by. Yeah, I like it. 707 00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:46,800 Why don't you do it? He's always doing that face of 708 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,000 like a little bit of like a downturn smirk in those eyes 709 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,100 that just stare through, you know, I won't fall for him like 710 00:38:53,100 --> 00:39:00,500 so easily like this. By all the warnings, I do think. 711 00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:03,800 I mean, we don't know him but I feel like he's trying to reform 712 00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:05,300 ERM. I hope so today. 713 00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:09,700 I don't know. Yeah, so cute Christmas in 714 00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:12,400 January. They went to Hawaii together. 715 00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:15,000 They went through on an ATV tour. 716 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,800 In the mud. Katie has no makeup on. 717 00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:21,200 How do they get pictures of them in Hawaii? 718 00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:24,100 I know right in the mud. Like, come on. 719 00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:30,100 Yeah, I know, like, with the paparazzi also be on ATVs there 720 00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:32,400 in the mud there. Like camouflage in the trees. 721 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,500 Yeah, because I feel like some Is like that. 722 00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:37,200 Like you have to Off Road in order to even be there? 723 00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:39,000 Well, here's the question. She had no makeup on. 724 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,100 Did, did it was it a good? No makeup. 725 00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:43,000 Look or was it like she looks like shit. 726 00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,400 I yeah, I didn't save the picture here, but I thought it 727 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,700 looked okay. I thought looked good. 728 00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:49,900 Okay, then it was called. That's how we I'm doing. 729 00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:51,900 I'm like, do you look good? Yeah, you look fat. 730 00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:56,600 Yeah, it wasn't terrible. But then later, this is January 731 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,900 2013. There's this weird article that 732 00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:03,700 says that John Mayer and Allison Williams who played Marnie on 733 00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:07,200 Girls, I don't know if you watch that show, what I do. 734 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,700 And there's a blind item by involves Allison Williams here. 735 00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:15,900 Do you want to read it? It was about their her wedding, 736 00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:20,900 but it says this a plus list singer took back her, former ala 737 00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:24,600 singer ex yet again and yet again, but he did the same thing 738 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,400 he always does this past weekend. 739 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,300 Get phone numbers of women even while he is actually at the same 740 00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:33,100 event as the A+ Lister, because you always need someone to fill 741 00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:36,900 up his free. Time the A+ list, find the A+ 742 00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:38,700 Lister. So Katy Perry finds out and they 743 00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:41,400 split for a month or two and then she takes them back. 744 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:46,100 So apparently, even at his, you know, alleged ex's wedding, he's 745 00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:47,400 going with his current girlfriend. 746 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,800 I'm like getting girls numbers. Yeah, my God. 747 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,900 Why did I listen Williams even invite him to her wedding in the 748 00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:56,900 first place? Well, okay, so this is an 749 00:40:56,900 --> 00:41:00,800 article apparently. He was friends with her future 750 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,700 husband, Ricky, Van Veen. Who's the CollegeHumor founder? 751 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,300 Oh, that's kind of cool. I know, I don't know how John 752 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:13,200 and him became friends but he was friends with him and then 753 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,700 there's this article that comes out that says him and Allison. 754 00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:19,400 William were Allison Williams were seen at an event together 755 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,800 then they got dinner and people, some people said it was just 756 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,300 innocent but someone said that he had his arm around Ellison's 757 00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:28,700 waist and it looked a little suspicious. 758 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,500 Yeah. I feel like John Mayer is the 759 00:41:30,508 --> 00:41:31,700 tight. Like he could go out with your 760 00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,700 grandma and he did your grandma, you know? 761 00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:37,300 Like that. Yeah it is interesting though 762 00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:40,800 that like later a couple years later they go to her wedding. 763 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,500 I don't know. Wow two months after that story 764 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,700 news comes out the Jon and Katie have broken up again class. 765 00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:54,700 I can tie. This news comes out that he's 766 00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:57,800 announced his first tour in three years because of his 767 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,300 throat issues and she's in the studio again and sources say 768 00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:03,700 it's because of conflicting schedules. 769 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,200 Uh, Jules someone said it's not over. 770 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,600 Until it's over. You have to see how things play 771 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,300 out. She's leaving the window open. 772 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,900 They both have been so focused on work. 773 00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:15,600 Oh my God. They didn't even know that was 774 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,400 going to inspire her. What's that song? 775 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:33,700 Just because it's over doesn't mean it's real Travie McCoy. 776 00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:41,100 From what's up, what's up? They did Cupid's Chokehold. 777 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:43,100 Oh yeah, Gym Class Heroes. Yeah, dude. 778 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,200 That was apparently off and on and then Orlando Bloom their 779 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,700 relationship was often daunting to so she's got that Voodoo clam 780 00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:52,700 or something, they keep up. Well, that's the thing. 781 00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:54,400 Like is she breaking up with them? 782 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,800 Or are they breaking up with her? 783 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,900 Like yeah. Is she the one coming back or 784 00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:02,000 they begging her back? I don't know why, but I find 785 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,200 that concept. I'm like hot like breaking up 786 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,300 and getting back together because you just like can't 787 00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:12,300 stand it. Unlike It is, it is, it was, it 788 00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:15,600 was abrupt though because I seemed mean outwardly, we don't 789 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,600 really know what's going on, but they seemed really happy and she 790 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,400 had a heart-shaped ring. She was wearing on her ring 791 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,200 finger and I just got to ask, do celebrities do this on purpose? 792 00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:29,400 I feel like I always see them being like she's wearing a ring 793 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,200 on her ring finger. Yeah, they might like I've been 794 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,500 in like 15 relationships and I've never once been like get me 795 00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:39,200 a ring to put on my ring finger. First of all, because I'm like 796 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,400 as a girl like that's gonna like terrify a guy once you're past 797 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,200 the age of like 25, you know, and also they haven't been 798 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,400 dating that long really. It's only been like a year to be 799 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,200 wearing, but don't we encounter this all the time and they have 800 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,600 a promise ring? I put is that mean I always see 801 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,300 somebody? I think even like Kristen 802 00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:00,900 Stewart, maybe like people are wearing rings on their ring 803 00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:02,300 finger. Yeah. 804 00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:04,000 Who does that? I don't know. 805 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,000 It's maybe it's just like a secret code one. 806 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,700 Like you kind of want like a little bit of a Bump or like 807 00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:13,700 let's say, John Mayer is like allegedly like hitting on women 808 00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:16,700 in front of you or something. You go out and get paparazzi 809 00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:18,100 wearing something on your ring finger. 810 00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:20,700 And then all these news articles would be like, John Mayer and 811 00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:23,200 Katie, like cement it even more and then you'll be like. 812 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,800 Yep. Yeah, that's right. 813 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,500 That's so true. I would love to ask somebody. 814 00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:31,400 What's up, what's up with the Rings? 815 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,700 So they woke up and he was on Ellen and she asked him about 816 00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:38,100 it. It. 817 00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:42,600 And He just had to like everybody was like, Ellen was so 818 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,500 invasive? I'm like, oh shoot, she was but 819 00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:48,300 also she asked the questions we want to know like I don't wanna 820 00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:51,200 celebrity to come on and promote their new book. 821 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,600 Who are you? Fucking who you looking like, 822 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,800 tell the audience right now? You know I'm good fun. 823 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,800 Like people are so sensitive and I feel like she made Taylor 824 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,200 Swift cry. I'm like I watched that video. 825 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,600 Like there weren't any tears? She's fun. 826 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,600 Yeah. Well what do they say that about 827 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,800 when they when she pranked her there? 828 00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:11,900 There was like a time where she was like, would you date him? 829 00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:13,400 Would you date him? Would you date him? 830 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:14,900 And, you know, you're supposed to say, like, yeah, you're an 831 00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:16,600 eye on Taylor? Was like, I really don't want to 832 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,000 do this and I think that's because the media was pairing 833 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,000 her with different guys but like, yeah, you know, come on 834 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:27,400 like you you put Dear John style for Harry Styles, like, come on 835 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,700 girl, please into it. Yeah. 836 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,000 Katie, Katie, Katie would answer those questions. 837 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,100 Actually Katie would be like him and then I would split up with 838 00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:40,200 him for a month and then I go back to him again. 839 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,200 I noticed she I won't read the whole thing but Ellen was like, 840 00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:47,400 I love you. My thoughts are with you. 841 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,100 What could notice she said, last time I saw you, you were Katy 842 00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:53,700 Perry and he said correct. And he said, I love you. 843 00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:56,900 My thoughts are with you, it's nobody's business, but and then 844 00:45:56,900 --> 00:46:00,200 he just says like, yeah, I'm trying to be private, whatever. 845 00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:04,000 And then he kind of goes On to say that starts rambling about 846 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,900 how he used to love love. Love loved Scotch. 847 00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:13,800 But it was poisoned, is it? Yeah, it's gonna funny, I'm just 848 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,500 getting to that age where your body doesn't just take 849 00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:16,900 everything off and it didn't help that. 850 00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:18,500 I really loved. Loved loved scotches. 851 00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:20,500 Just like applying poison to your body. 852 00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:23,400 It's like a shellac of poison. It's just delicious, wonderful 853 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,600 poison. That makes you not care how late 854 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,600 you're out, or till or where you're going. 855 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,800 But I had to really say like singing and writing more than I 856 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:31,900 like to live. Just Scotch. 857 00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:34,800 So I had to dial it down and I'm a little more boring now. 858 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,900 Oh is that a metaphor for Katie? Oh no, I don't know. 859 00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:43,200 But yeah, I'd be want a glass of scotch. 860 00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:47,300 Scotch is delicious. Like I've had it before. 861 00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:50,300 No, it's not like, you know, I was just cheesecake. 862 00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:54,500 It's not just made me wonder about what was going on with 863 00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:56,600 him. Like, was he drinking too much? 864 00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:58,700 Oh maybe. Oh, and then he's, like, that's 865 00:46:58,700 --> 00:47:01,000 why. I mean all the blinds just say 866 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,700 that Like he would cheat on Katy Perry. 867 00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:05,400 So they would split and then get back together and then he would 868 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,800 like cheat so then should break up with him for a bit but then 869 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,200 they get back together. So I wonder if that was like, 870 00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:13,000 you know trying to do the whole thing of like, yeah, like I made 871 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,500 out with a girl to Club, but that's because I have a drinking 872 00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:18,100 problem. Oh, you're using that as a 873 00:47:18,107 --> 00:47:19,900 cover-up. Yep. 874 00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:23,500 You know, it's interesting to hear you say that because then 875 00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:26,100 there's stories like this was on radar online. 876 00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:30,000 I don't know if we can trust them, but that KD and Russell 877 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,800 still talked and that bothered John but also that Katie was 878 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,500 upset that John still flirted with other girls. 879 00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:39,300 And there's a quote that says she knew that she could push 880 00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:42,600 John's buttons by comparing his flaws to what she's saw was 881 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,200 great in Russell which he hated oh that's a good. 882 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,800 Toxic move though. That would get under a guy's 883 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,200 skin like I'd see both of that. That being true, both of them 884 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,900 be. And yeah, around this time I saw 885 00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:57,500 a bunch of headlines. I didn't really look too far 886 00:47:57,500 --> 00:48:00,000 into it. That John wasn't sending flirty 887 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,000 text to Rihanna. Okay, should we talk about the 888 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,500 blind item? Yeah, I would've thought that 889 00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:09,700 like was fake, but um, there was a blind. 890 00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:12,700 I pulled here that says this, a plus list singer. 891 00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:16,200 Katy Perry used to be best friends with this other A+ list, 892 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,000 singer Rihanna back. In the day if they had been in 893 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,400 the same place at the same time they would have got together. 894 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,800 Not now neither of them, can stand each other and when they 895 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,100 had the chance to meet this past week, they blew it off. 896 00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:31,200 It all revolves around drugs and a guy that both of them hooked 897 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,900 up with and that would be just On mayor. 898 00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:37,500 But when I saw like those names in there, I'm like John Mayer 899 00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:41,000 and Rihanna, like, I just can't see it, but I don't know. 900 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,100 They are both kind of like, dark complicated individuals. 901 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,700 Yeah, so interesting cause she also came up in the Justin 902 00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:53,300 Timberlake episode that he supposedly hooked up with her as 903 00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:55,200 well. I could look at remember them 904 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,300 when they collabed like with that song Rehab. 905 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,400 Yeah. She's too good for all guys. 906 00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:07,700 Like I know she is she doing? Look at her current man. 907 00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:10,300 She's like to cook, yeah, I know. 908 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:18,300 That's oh yeah, like Christmas. She she had good taste when her 909 00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:19,900 and Cara. Delevingne were like maybe 910 00:49:19,900 --> 00:49:22,400 allegedly hooking up. I'm like I'm a fan of that. 911 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,500 Big fan of like to hot woman hating. 912 00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:29,600 Yeah, yep, maybe maybe there's truth to that. 913 00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:31,100 Okay. So they're texting. 914 00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:34,800 Yeah. They're doing texting so her and 915 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,600 John, you know, still broken up. There was a glamour article. 916 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,500 It said, Katie hired a heartbreak coach to get through 917 00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:44,200 this second. Actually, that's sweet. 918 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,300 I love that too. I wish everybody could do that. 919 00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:49,400 I know that. I feel like, that's when you 920 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,200 need it. Most, you know, it seems like it 921 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:56,600 didn't work those, they got back together because she's like, 922 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,200 couch me to get better. So then, that way I can get back 923 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,400 on the horse and then I'll see you again in six years. 924 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,600 And then. Okay, so May 2013, there were 925 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,000 also reports that Katy Perry and Robert Pattinson went to a 926 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,800 wedding rehearsal together. Mmm, just have to mention it 927 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,800 also because of our past. Yeah. 928 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,500 Okay. So Kristen was at the party Rob. 929 00:50:19,500 --> 00:50:21,300 Pattinson Hollywood. Really is just like a big 930 00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:24,500 circle. Yeah, I don't believe that. 931 00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:26,200 Katie. And Rob ever got together, 932 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,900 though. I know, I have more. 933 00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:28,900 There's more. Oh, okay. 934 00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:34,200 Okay. Then guys, You in 2013, its back 935 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,900 on your back together. He was seen leaving her house in 936 00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:42,300 LA and they're seen in Greenwich Village Bowery Hotel. 937 00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:46,800 Everybody goes there. Katie was on the cover of Vogue 938 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,500 and there's a whole interview with her but it's kind of 939 00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:50,800 awkward because it was before they were back together. 940 00:50:51,700 --> 00:50:54,800 So she's kind of talking about them talking about him in past 941 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,700 tense and everything and she said it's over. 942 00:50:57,700 --> 00:51:01,600 I was madly in love with him. I am I still am madly in love 943 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,400 with him? Beautiful Mind tortured soul, I 944 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,600 do have to figure out why I'm attracted to these broken Birds. 945 00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:16,200 I love that when people just admit things like that, you 946 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,000 know. Yeah. 947 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,900 It's very relatable. Like we've all been there 948 00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:20,500 before. Yeah. 949 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,800 And she also told the magazine about Rob and Kristen, she said 950 00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:27,400 I sent her meaning. Kristen Stewart, I sent her a 951 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,700 text message saying, I know you've seen all this stuff but 952 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,400 you know, I would never disrespect. 953 00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:33,900 You. I'm not that person, I'm just 954 00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:36,800 trying to be a friend to him, but it is unfortunate that I do 955 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,300 have a set of tits. What? 956 00:51:39,300 --> 00:51:43,100 Why don't like that? So, like trying to be a friend 957 00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:45,700 to him if you're on texting basis, with Kristen Stewart, 958 00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:49,000 just don't be a friend of Rob Pat like I'm sure he's got other 959 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,100 friends I like, but for me during a breakup I'm like, I 960 00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:54,800 will like that other person that you broke up with will now be my 961 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,500 enemy. Like I'm not going to be much, I 962 00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:58,700 know. But what do you think of this? 963 00:51:58,700 --> 00:52:02,000 Well, I do think I've realized like even with a lot of my guy 964 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,300 friends, like when they go through a breakup or something, 965 00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:07,100 they cannot talk about it with you like each other. 966 00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:08,200 They don't want to talk about it. 967 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,300 Break up with other guys. They always like need a girl to 968 00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:13,500 like talk like therapist or something. 969 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,000 So I could maybe see that, but it does the parrot. 970 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,300 It's thing. I'm like, that's what makes it. 971 00:52:23,300 --> 00:52:26,400 So sexual she could have been, like, like, I'm being a friend. 972 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,000 But, you know, how those these tabloids make it out to be 973 00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:31,200 instead, she's like, I, like I'm trying to be a friend, but I've 974 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,800 got like these all Some melons that like you just can't get his 975 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,300 hands off of him. Especially since Kristen is 976 00:52:37,300 --> 00:52:42,200 like, flat-chested kind of, I know, I don't know if she was 977 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,200 trying to say that people are being sexy. 978 00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:49,300 Oh, maybe, you know, I don't know if someone sent me that 979 00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:53,100 text and of not interpreted it. That way, I wasn't blocks out. 980 00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:55,800 If somebody was like being a friend to my ex then they're 981 00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:01,100 like sorry that I have a pair of be like you're blocked like but 982 00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:02,800 yeah, it might have been in descent. 983 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,200 She maybe was like the media is making it because I have because 984 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,200 I have said they're making it seem like we're together. 985 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,500 I do think Kristen was probably I don't know. 986 00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:15,300 I can't pin her down. Yeah she's unpredictable. 987 00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:18,700 She also said about John Mayer. She said he pulled away. 988 00:53:18,700 --> 00:53:20,100 That was a big. Hello for me. 989 00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:22,800 I realized I could lose the person I loved and I had to deal 990 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,800 with some things issues that I think a lot of women have you 991 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,500 can be strong in one aspect of your life but submissive and 992 00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:31,400 another in relationships, it was hard for me to speak up and set 993 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,000 boundaries, I think. Out of that, was to do with the 994 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,400 fear of loss. The men I have gone for are 995 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:37,500 challenging. Yes. 996 00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:40,900 But they're also wildly intelligent and poetic, I'm not 997 00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:44,200 interested in taming anyone. I'm pretty wild myself. 998 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,100 God, I like that. I like her style. 999 00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:50,700 I like what she's saying like. Yeah, I'm into it. 1000 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,100 It's very vulnerable. Yeah, it's pretty unique. 1001 00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:57,500 I don't know. I feel like most people are not 1002 00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:02,000 so blase about being with a bad boy or you know, she's like 1003 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,100 yeah. I like it. 1004 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,900 Yeah, yeah. Most people are just like, oh my 1005 00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:08,800 God, they're still my friend. But the schedule it didn't work 1006 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,600 out and I'm always like. Yeah, screw it. 1007 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,400 Like screw that. Like I want to relate to you, 1008 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,000 like tell me a little nugget like this and then it gets me on 1009 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,100 your side because I'm like, wow. Like I connect with it. 1010 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,700 Pretty cool. That's so true. 1011 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,500 She's doing her Prism album. Gotta admit, I used to really 1012 00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:27,400 like Katy Perry. Well, that's kind of when I fell 1013 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,900 off on her. Yeah, wait, that was like Dark 1014 00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:36,000 Horse, right? I think so maybe but yeah I 1015 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,700 think you're right. I think that was she hasn't 1016 00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:40,100 really had like a banger in the last five years. 1017 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,100 Yeah. Was that swish swish? 1018 00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:46,800 No, that was the witness album. Oh yeah, that's been shifted. 1019 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:52,400 Bon Appetit, they randomly an expert. 1020 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:57,900 Now, where this happened I was listening to some of her music 1021 00:54:57,900 --> 00:55:01,300 just to like oh yeah, I wanted to see what was going on and now 1022 00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:05,200 I'm worried it. Has ruined my algorithm but yeah 1023 00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:07,100 a lot of Katy. Yeah. 1024 00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:09,500 Yes. So Katie I love you no offense. 1025 00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:11,700 But yeah. Um, okay. 1026 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,600 So then yeah, they're back together though her and John 1027 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,800 room fact. It got kind of confusing because 1028 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,700 the article was about their breakup but they are together 1029 00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:27,200 and he performs at Summerfest in Milwaukee and he does this whole 1030 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,900 long rambling, speech about Katie before, well, we think is 1031 00:55:31,300 --> 00:55:33,700 you can infer is about Before a song. 1032 00:55:33,700 --> 00:55:36,600 And he says, okay it's kind of a long paragraph, should I read? 1033 00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:38,100 Yeah, thanks. Okay. 1034 00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:41,500 He says, I was just getting to know a girl, and I started 1035 00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:44,000 really considering re considering how everything was 1036 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,700 going to be right. As I was putting a needle 1037 00:55:46,700 --> 00:55:49,200 through my neck because I was still getting to know this girl. 1038 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,100 Okay, so he's talking about his vocals. 1039 00:55:52,100 --> 00:56:00,100 Alright. I think he was talking about how 1040 00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:02,200 he is so happy to be performing again. 1041 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:07,000 Because he's been gone because he had the vocal cord granuloma 1042 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,500 thing. So he says, right as I was 1043 00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:11,000 putting a needle through my neck because I was still getting to 1044 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,700 know this girl. And I wasn't going to be able to 1045 00:56:12,700 --> 00:56:15,400 talk to her and she was more incredible than I ever thought 1046 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,300 because she would order for me. I would whisper in her ear and 1047 00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:20,300 she would order for me with the waiter and she would tell 1048 00:56:20,300 --> 00:56:21,800 people. It's nice to meet you. 1049 00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:25,500 And we did a lot of whispering when I was in Montana. 1050 00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:27,900 And I wasn't speaking, really bad self service. 1051 00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:30,900 I've got really bad internet, service out there and a lot of 1052 00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:36,400 mist dropped video. Blame, I miss Drop video frames. 1053 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,900 And so, she was so patient as to even continue to get to know me 1054 00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:41,000 and love me. We would be on speakerphone and 1055 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,500 look at intermittent pictures of each other as they were coming 1056 00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:47,500 through, this really choked satellite and this is a long 1057 00:56:47,500 --> 00:56:50,400 time coming for both of us. And I want to dedicate this next 1058 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,700 song to my k/d who is, oh, he does, it's great, my kitty, who 1059 00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:56,400 is my face to call home, and then he played the song face to 1060 00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:01,500 call home. She was in the audience, I don't 1061 00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:05,000 know if she was But it's also so funny like he probably has like 1062 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,800 a private jet but he can't get like a video signal and reach 1063 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,300 out to someone Montana. Still in the u.s. like yeah I 1064 00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:14,300 know you'd think he could do something with that. 1065 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,300 There was like a nice story around this time that Jon and 1066 00:57:17,300 --> 00:57:22,500 Katie were in the guitar shop and they bought a 16 year olds 1067 00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:26,200 fan and guitar that she couldn't afford just so sweet. 1068 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,300 You see how sweet? Yeah. 1069 00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:34,500 And then October 2013, they're At who you love who we mentioned 1070 00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:37,900 earlier comes out on his Paradise Valley album. 1071 00:57:37,900 --> 00:57:40,200 And did we like that song? I thought it was a little bit of 1072 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,200 a flop. Yeah. 1073 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,600 I do a little cheese. Definitely not one of his best. 1074 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,500 I would say. Yeah, I just think the earlier, 1075 00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:50,600 like, it gets caught in your head but it's like, yeah. 1076 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,600 Do like a John Mayer? Sexy dark one or do like a Katy 1077 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,000 Perry pop and it feels like they were both so different. 1078 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,000 So instead they were like, let's just do like a slow song and 1079 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,200 it's like what? Yeah. 1080 00:58:02,300 --> 00:58:05,200 I do like in the music video like because they have a lot of 1081 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,100 different couples like on this mechanical bowl and they're like 1082 00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:10,800 thrown off the bowl and slow motion and then they have Jon 1083 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,000 and Katie that's care. Like when they have like the up 1084 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,400 close shots of Jon and Katie and they're like, very, very close 1085 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,500 together like you can see like this. 1086 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,400 Yeah, I'm going to re-watch it after this. 1087 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,600 I know. I've only seen it like once so I 1088 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,900 should re-watch it to ya. It is like a commercial though, 1089 00:58:26,900 --> 00:58:29,500 you're right. There was like this, soft, 1090 00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:32,200 lighting filter, you know, kind of like dreams. 1091 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,300 Sequence type of coloring on it. Yeah. 1092 00:58:35,900 --> 00:58:38,000 Yeah it is. I don't know. 1093 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,600 It would've been cool if it was like a little more detailed you 1094 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:46,700 know, the lyrics could have been less generic, but mmm, whatever. 1095 00:58:46,700 --> 00:58:49,400 I guess she did write her verse. That's what he said in an 1096 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,200 interview, so they really did write it together. 1097 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,900 He co-wrote some stuff on her Prism album, and he played 1098 00:58:56,900 --> 00:58:59,800 guitar on a song. It don't, I don't really know 1099 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,000 these songs but a song called it takes two. 1100 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,000 And that I guess John came up with the name for the title. 1101 00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:10,300 He said something about her having a she was a prism of wide 1102 00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:11,800 spectrum of emotions or something. 1103 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,100 So, oh that's cute. That would be nice to date a 1104 00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:17,100 poet, right? Other guys are like good to 1105 00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:19,000 quote her own text. I like your tits. 1106 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,200 And he yeah. Like your breasts are like a 1107 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:28,600 prism of emotions. Yeah, and during this billboard 1108 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,100 interview, she said she started giggling, I guess. 1109 00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:35,500 And realized she was A John Mayer hoodie and said, I can't 1110 00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:38,700 believe I'm wearing my boyfriend's shirt and she said, 1111 00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:42,200 he literally is a genius, as is evident from his songwriting. 1112 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,900 I always tell him, darling. You know, I'm going to have to 1113 00:59:44,900 --> 00:59:47,200 give you your mind to science after you've passed because 1114 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,500 we're going to have to understand how all these Sparks 1115 00:59:49,500 --> 00:59:52,500 work will be in bed and he'll be doing the crossword puzzle. 1116 00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:55,200 Every night, he tries to finish it in under 10 minutes, when he 1117 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,000 puts his mind to something, he really gets its own. 1118 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,400 Very well. I always ask him for his help. 1119 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,100 Oh God, not calling a man of Genius. 1120 01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:06,700 It's like John Mayer. Already thinks he's a genius for 1121 01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:12,400 the crossword puzzle. She but is when you're like, 1122 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,900 when you put someone on a pedestal though, that's why you 1123 01:00:14,900 --> 01:00:19,400 are like I remember like one of the guys. 1124 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,900 I dated he would always like try to take the stairs instead of 1125 01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:27,200 the elevator and I was like, what a sign of a good. 1126 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:31,000 I'm like he's ambitious, he's healthy like the tiniest thing 1127 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,600 when you're like, in love y'all. Oh my God. 1128 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,800 You know? Yeah it's embarrassing to look 1129 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,300 back pretty much everyone. I've been like head over heels 1130 01:00:38,300 --> 01:00:43,900 with I thought was like genius at the time me too and it's 1131 01:00:43,900 --> 01:00:47,200 crazy when years later you're like wait that was just a person 1132 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:53,300 yeah yeah an idiot and I'm a wild those damn chemicals. 1133 01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:58,300 Yeah yeah so a little like a month later she's also on the 1134 01:00:58,308 --> 01:00:59,900 cover of w magazine. Okay? 1135 01:00:59,900 --> 01:01:04,100 She's she's star see. She said she had a crush on John 1136 01:01:04,100 --> 01:01:08,100 Mayer for a long time and that she was actually dating my 1137 01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:09,900 crush. She said, I've been a fan of 1138 01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:12,100 John for years before actually got to kiss him. 1139 01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:16,100 Oh, but it's pretty humid lucky celebrities like they truly 1140 01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:20,900 anything. You know, I had such a huge 1141 01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:23,900 crush on somebody in middle school, but he didn't even know 1142 01:01:23,900 --> 01:01:26,200 existed. I was like, he doesn't even know 1143 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,500 who I am, and then I actually dated him in high school. 1144 01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:31,700 Yeah. And he didn't turn out to be as 1145 01:01:31,700 --> 01:01:35,800 great as I I thought I broke up with him so you know sometimes. 1146 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,100 That's probably how it usually goes. 1147 01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:41,500 Yeah, I mean, right? They can't live up to the 1148 01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:47,400 expectations of being a crash. Yes, I know. 1149 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,300 I wonder, I think that they did love each other as complicated 1150 01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:54,900 as it seems, but I wonder if she ever felt like, I can't break up 1151 01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:57,100 with him, like, it's John Mayer, you know? 1152 01:01:57,100 --> 01:02:00,200 Yeah. I always had such a big crush on 1153 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:01,600 him. I can't break up with him, you 1154 01:02:01,607 --> 01:02:02,600 know. Yeah. 1155 01:02:02,700 --> 01:02:05,900 Be kind of hard in this same W magazine interview they asked 1156 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,400 Her. If she liked being married, 1157 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,900 which is kind of weird, because she's not married anymore. 1158 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,700 But she said, of course, I really loved. 1159 01:02:13,700 --> 01:02:15,800 It was a new fun, exciting Journey. 1160 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,800 But I like how I am now, and I think all things happen for a 1161 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,100 reason. Mmm, that's nice. 1162 01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:23,400 The quote of someone who's moved on, you know, yet not that 1163 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,000 Earnest in that. Yep. 1164 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,100 And I guess she has this song on that album called Legendary 1165 01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:31,000 Lovers and I just thought I was cool because it's kind of like 1166 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,300 our podcast. Yeah. 1167 01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:34,100 I could've been a good title. Yeah. 1168 01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:35,900 And I guess it was inspired by something. 1169 01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:41,000 He said in an email to John got them in Poetic together. 1170 01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:45,000 Yeah, yeah I think they were there were a lot of rumors of 1171 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,200 them being engaged in 2013 and once again she's seen with a 1172 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:53,000 ringer on her finger which excited a lot of people but they 1173 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,800 weren't engaged. I don't know why they why they 1174 01:02:55,800 --> 01:03:00,200 do that and then February 2014, sadly news comes out that Jon 1175 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,800 and Katie have broken up again for a third time. 1176 01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:08,800 Blamed on schedules. Yeah. it was again, but yeah, 1177 01:03:08,900 --> 01:03:14,900 based on what I doubt it kind of I feel like at that point to if 1178 01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:18,200 you're a celebrity like you would be used to making 1179 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,600 conflicting schedules work, I mean, I know it's still hard but 1180 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,000 I mean, if they made it work, when he couldn't speak to her in 1181 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,900 Montana and they were like sending carrier pigeons to each 1182 01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:30,700 other, you know, like, yeah, I think maybe schedules can just 1183 01:03:30,700 --> 01:03:35,200 be the Catalyst for cheating and other stuff because like, if 1184 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,300 you're around all the Time like yeah, it's harder to be yeah, 1185 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,600 cheating on each other, but if you're not around each other and 1186 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,200 you're interacting with so many different people, yeah, then 1187 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,500 that's a threat. Like, if he's in Europe, yeah, 1188 01:03:49,500 --> 01:03:51,500 might hook up with somebody. Oh yeah. 1189 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,300 Yep. So they broke up. 1190 01:03:54,300 --> 01:03:57,700 According to Page, 6 KT, made the decision to end the pair's 1191 01:03:57,700 --> 01:04:01,700 nearly two-year relationship after discovering text messages 1192 01:04:01,700 --> 01:04:05,800 on John's phone from some random girl, there we go. 1193 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:06,700 Yeah. Okay. 1194 01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:13,400 Cheating John. I know, I know John, we were 1195 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,900 rooting for you. I thought that I think he did 1196 01:04:17,900 --> 01:04:21,400 love Katie and his own fucked-up way, but I thought that this was 1197 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,200 different. It's just a cheater. 1198 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:32,100 Like a, no, I think he just is And then People magazine I mean 1199 01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:35,400 I don't know but they said another reason for them to break 1200 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:40,400 up was their age Gap. So now Katie's 29, he's 36, 1201 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,300 which isn't crazy, but apparently he was kind of ready 1202 01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:47,800 to more settle down and start a family and things like that. 1203 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,100 Maybe and she wasn't still wanted to keep partying. 1204 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,000 So I don't know how much truth there is to that, but huh. 1205 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,100 Which is so funny because like, how old is he now? 1206 01:04:56,100 --> 01:04:57,500 And he's like, still not. Marry I know. 1207 01:04:57,500 --> 01:05:01,200 Yeah, I know every six, I think, He's 46. 1208 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:07,400 Yeah, 50 makes me kind of sad because he's been on the record 1209 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,500 saying many times. Like I wanna have a family or 1210 01:05:10,508 --> 01:05:13,400 whatever but you just can't. I feel like I just don't trust 1211 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:19,000 guys who say that because I feel like guys who want it, do it 1212 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,000 like they do not quietly, they do it quickly and then I don't 1213 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,100 know. I just like so many guys who 1214 01:05:24,100 --> 01:05:26,900 like profess that they want marriage and to me that's also a 1215 01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:28,700 little bit of a red flag because isn't it? 1216 01:05:28,700 --> 01:05:30,800 Oh, I want a partner. Her and then you love that 1217 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,800 partner so much that you want to marry them. 1218 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,000 But going around saying I want to be married, I want to be 1219 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,200 married it's like you don't even care about the person you just 1220 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,800 want that status. Yeah exactly yeah. 1221 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,900 Maybe like has too high expectations or something and 1222 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,500 yeah but I mean also John's dad didn't have him until he was 50 1223 01:05:49,500 --> 01:05:54,500 years old so she might think in his head like 50 is when I 1224 01:05:54,500 --> 01:05:58,000 settle down. Yeah a man can have kids like 1225 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,600 whenever you want. So they Such a different 1226 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:05,200 perception of like when the ages to get married and his dad isn't 1227 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,600 his dad like 90 some dust still alive. 1228 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,900 So yeah. Maybe thinks he'll love. 1229 01:06:11,500 --> 01:06:13,000 Y'all. Have a good at 90. 1230 01:06:14,300 --> 01:06:16,200 Yeah. So yeah. 1231 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,400 They broke up Miley tweeted to Katie girl. 1232 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,800 If you're worried about, this is all written crazy. 1233 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:28,000 It's like if you're you are worried ABT about where tongues 1234 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,400 have been good thing. Your X boo, is your ex boo 1235 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:37,700 because all we all know where that been like that tongue has 1236 01:06:37,700 --> 01:06:38,400 been. Yep. 1237 01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:41,000 We just wanted his was this. The error when Miley Cyrus 1238 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,400 couldn't put her own tongue in her mouth and rub rail Hangar. 1239 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:49,300 Yes, so we're tongue was always reacting to something. 1240 01:06:49,300 --> 01:06:54,100 Katy had said something about tongues and Katie said, oh, 1241 01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:57,800 girl, I'm gonna give you the biggest spanking when I see you 1242 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,700 in the UK BB. Okay. 1243 01:07:01,700 --> 01:07:06,100 I'm like hey it's just fun. Like I like and that's the thing 1244 01:07:06,100 --> 01:07:08,900 with John Mayer. Like who's like the most eat 1245 01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:11,500 John Mayer could date like Elizabeth Holmes and then break 1246 01:07:11,500 --> 01:07:13,800 up and we feel like we're on Elizabeth Holmes side. 1247 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,200 Like that's just his that's just who he is. 1248 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:20,700 Yeah, there were rumors that Katie's dating Diplo. 1249 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,300 Oh I can totally see that. And then around the same time 1250 01:07:25,300 --> 01:07:28,200 John was seen. This is random detail, included 1251 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,400 seen leaving the area. Airport. 1252 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:35,200 Wearing a bathroom over his clothes yet if I used to look 1253 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:40,000 too cute. Yeah, not sure it was going on 1254 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,400 with him. She was asked about John and 1255 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,100 Cosmopolitan and she said I'm living in the now and not 1256 01:07:46,100 --> 01:07:48,500 fantasizing about the past. I have a lot of respect for him 1257 01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:51,800 still and I know it goes both ways, there's no bad blood but 1258 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,200 I'm sure there will be inspired songs but then, oh my God. 1259 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,800 I was shocked by this, then they were back together. 1260 01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:05,900 Yeah, that's crazy. Just because it's over, doesn't 1261 01:08:05,900 --> 01:08:11,700 mean it's really only that song. Yeah, she really loved that 1262 01:08:11,700 --> 01:08:13,600 song, you know. She didn't just make that song 1263 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,100 cuz oh, yeah, she really loved it. 1264 01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:18,899 Um, yeah, they were seen on a double date, actually Allison 1265 01:08:18,899 --> 01:08:22,600 Williams and that guy Ricky, Van Veen, okay? 1266 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,700 They've seen holding hands and then she perform the Super Bowl 1267 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,700 and Jon and Katie apparently seen together at a Super Bowl 1268 01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:31,399 ad. After party, and they're in a 1269 01:08:31,407 --> 01:08:33,300 picture together with Missy Elliott. 1270 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,899 Okay, well, there was a blind about that with the Super Bowl. 1271 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,899 Let me pull it up here and I thought this one was like, kind 1272 01:08:40,899 --> 01:08:43,000 of surprising, but it's from blind gossip. 1273 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,800 It says, we've told you before that this female singer went 1274 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,600 willingly, got back together with her ex even though she knew 1275 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,100 he was using her to save his own reputation. 1276 01:08:51,500 --> 01:08:55,100 Well, since he was already using her for one thing push to use 1277 01:08:55,100 --> 01:08:58,399 her for another, he asked to be included on her recent. 1278 01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:01,800 Big project, the halftime. Show, when that didn't happen, 1279 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,600 he blamed her and then immediately punished her by 1280 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,899 sleeping with somebody else. That's pretty bad. 1281 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,500 It's true. I could see him trying to 1282 01:09:12,500 --> 01:09:15,399 because didn't like, Lenny, Kravitz come out and do like a 1283 01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:17,399 guitar thing with her. I could see him. 1284 01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:20,399 Maybe being like, Oh, have me, be the guy who comes out, my 1285 01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:24,700 God, which, by the way, like, Lenny Kravitz is awesome, but it 1286 01:09:24,700 --> 01:09:26,600 would have been cool to you to have John Mayer come out. 1287 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,600 Like, he could do a little snippet in a Super Bowl halftime 1288 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,500 show, Yeah, I think he's perfect for that. 1289 01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:34,600 Actually could see her being hesitant though, like, they 1290 01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:36,500 have. Yeah, there's obviously gostrey 1291 01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:40,500 like three times because I really want to bring John out. 1292 01:09:40,500 --> 01:09:43,200 Yeah. Oh, that's a weird situation and 1293 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:47,000 then okay, that same night. Russell Brand tweeted Super 1294 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:51,000 Bowl, maybe baffling to the Brits, but halftime show will be 1295 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,000 amazing. Good luck KP. 1296 01:09:53,700 --> 01:09:56,200 Oh, let's see. Yeah, it is. 1297 01:09:56,500 --> 01:09:58,500 But it's kind of weird. He's always around. 1298 01:09:58,500 --> 01:10:01,900 Yeah, he is lurking. Yeah, Jon and Katie went to 1299 01:10:01,900 --> 01:10:07,400 Disneyland together, May 2015. This is a couple months after 1300 01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:11,000 the Super Bowl and this is when Katie's deep and her Taylor 1301 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:18,000 Feud, then July 2015. So couple months after that, 1302 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,300 they break up for the fourth time. 1303 01:10:20,900 --> 01:10:29,700 This book is this better be a? He forms a dead. 1304 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,600 In company with the Grateful Dead musicians and goes on tour 1305 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,200 with them. Yeah, I wrote in my notes, this 1306 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:40,300 is never-ending, John Katie Racine together being cozy at 1307 01:10:40,300 --> 01:10:43,500 Allison Williams wedding. Would you talk about earlier and 1308 01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:45,400 then in December on the holidays, they were seen 1309 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,200 together but it's really unclear, I think, at this point 1310 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,800 if they're like actually together. 1311 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,900 Yeah, sometimes you have that. Yeah the next there's that 1312 01:10:52,900 --> 01:10:54,000 blurry line. There. 1313 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,600 Wasn't that much information about them during this time. 1314 01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,600 So yeah, holidays together. Then in January, she's seen with 1315 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:06,400 Orlando Bloom a couple times. Okay, in groups at events, did 1316 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,000 you start to move on to Orlando at the Golden Globes? 1317 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,800 She's talking really closely to Orlando and whispering in his 1318 01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,900 ear and stuff and, and pictures. And some people thought she was 1319 01:11:16,900 --> 01:11:20,200 still with John Mayer at this time, but it seems like by 1320 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,600 February she's officially Orlando Bloom. 1321 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,200 So, I'm wondering if maybe like her and John were still hanging 1322 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:30,700 out, but there were a lot of lines about like, Her being with 1323 01:11:30,700 --> 01:11:33,700 Orlando Bloom, but like still seeing John Mayer every once in 1324 01:11:33,700 --> 01:11:36,700 a while, which, like, I feel like, right? 1325 01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:39,300 They just have that like, magnetic pole. 1326 01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:42,400 So I'm sure that before things were like, really firmed up with 1327 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,800 Orlando because they're, they're married now, aren't they? 1328 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,100 Yep. Yeah, so, I could imagine the 1329 01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:49,300 baby, Bailey's have a baby together. 1330 01:11:49,300 --> 01:11:52,400 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1331 01:11:52,500 --> 01:11:56,900 I mean, maybe she just, she still had feelings for John, but 1332 01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,200 then it's like, okay, there's this new guy. 1333 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,900 Yeah, and also get like when you're deciding between, isn't 1334 01:12:03,900 --> 01:12:06,400 this like, such a classic like rom-com Trope, you're deciding 1335 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,700 between like the new promising guy or the old guy who likes 1336 01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:12,700 says that he's changed and I feel like it's a you know it's 1337 01:12:12,700 --> 01:12:14,200 always like such a hard decision. 1338 01:12:14,300 --> 01:12:16,700 It's made a lot easier. When you've broken up with the 1339 01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:20,300 old guy for different times, you know, like, oh my God, come on, 1340 01:12:20,300 --> 01:12:22,000 go for her land. Oh yeah. 1341 01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:24,300 Yep. So it seems like her and John 1342 01:12:24,300 --> 01:12:29,700 for the fifth and final time are over Damn. 1343 01:12:30,300 --> 01:12:34,900 Well, this relationship was a lot more magnetic, you know, 1344 01:12:34,900 --> 01:12:38,600 back and forth over again over again then I would have thought 1345 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,600 for some reason. I just thought in my head like 1346 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,800 okay, they dated for a year, they made that song together and 1347 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,200 then I know that's what I thought me see, that's the first 1348 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,600 time I heard of them as a couple was with that song. 1349 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,100 I know, who knows? Maybe if Taylor Swift, didn't 1350 01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:53,900 write Dear John her and him could have gone back and forth 1351 01:12:53,900 --> 01:12:57,000 like a ping-pong match as know. Like maybe that's just his 1352 01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,100 style. Because then you say that with 1353 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,300 Jessica Simpson they broke up like nine times or something. 1354 01:13:03,300 --> 01:13:04,400 I think so. Yeah. 1355 01:13:04,700 --> 01:13:07,500 Oh my God. I want someone to like do their 1356 01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:10,000 birth charts unlike compare them because they, it seems like they 1357 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,200 both have that have. It wasn't there. 1358 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,500 A blind item recently that John Mayer was going to be on the 1359 01:13:15,500 --> 01:13:17,000 speak now? Rerecord. 1360 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,100 Oh my God. That see that. 1361 01:13:21,500 --> 01:13:23,800 How much would that break the internet though if he's the one 1362 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:28,900 playing guitar and Dear John funny she Single. 1363 01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:33,000 Oh my God it's looking to settle down. 1364 01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:35,000 Yeah, then for the last nine years. 1365 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,700 Wait, why would I way? I know. 1366 01:13:37,700 --> 01:13:39,900 I would too. There'd be no way to explain 1367 01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:42,000 that though. He wouldn't be able to handle 1368 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:43,800 her being a bigger star than him. 1369 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,200 Although I will say like I have a episode that I've done 1370 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,000 research for. I'm just waiting for speak now 1371 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:53,100 to re-release because I think we talked about this when we first 1372 01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:56,600 met, but like the quotes John Mayer has said about Taylor 1373 01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,200 Swift. There's like this. 1374 01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:01,100 Six minute long YouTube video. That gathers a compilation of 1375 01:14:01,100 --> 01:14:04,000 all of his quotes and Katy Perry is right. 1376 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,700 He is a poet. Like he says the most beautiful 1377 01:14:06,700 --> 01:14:09,300 things about Taylor Swift. It's the way every woman wants 1378 01:14:09,300 --> 01:14:11,700 to be complimented and it's a little bit weird because it 1379 01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:14,000 keeps comparing here to a child, but like that. 1380 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:19,200 Childlike energy is like a nice compliment and he really knows 1381 01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,900 how to like say, say, nice words about someone. 1382 01:14:23,700 --> 01:14:26,000 Well, yeah, I guess she's with Orlando now. 1383 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,200 So it seems like it's over. He's probably just lighten it up 1384 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,000 with someone right now but kind of trying to get married. 1385 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,200 Yeah. Have I do have more but I know 1386 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,600 we're at an hour. So yeah. 1387 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,600 Do you want to do like the most fun Factor? 1388 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,100 Like craziest thing that happened post-relationship? 1389 01:14:44,300 --> 01:14:47,700 Yeah, okay, here's one. I know I know what I'm going to 1390 01:14:47,700 --> 01:14:50,800 say. Maybe, maybe you've heard of it. 1391 01:14:51,300 --> 01:14:55,600 It's not really related to Katy Perry but John did this 1392 01:14:55,700 --> 01:14:58,200 Instagram so the he hosted himself. 1393 01:14:58,300 --> 01:15:03,500 Called current mood, right? And he had Cassie David on it. 1394 01:15:03,500 --> 01:15:07,300 The oh, there was a blind about them, didn't they? 1395 01:15:07,300 --> 01:15:10,200 Well, there was a blind that like he was hitting on her and 1396 01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,500 she thought he was, like, a gross old man, but she's like 1397 01:15:12,500 --> 01:15:14,100 still kept texting him or something. 1398 01:15:14,500 --> 01:15:21,600 Oh, so she was on his little show and she asked him, she's 1399 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,400 gonna ask him, a bunch of rapid-fire questions. 1400 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:27,600 And she said blink, if you've slept with 800 people or 1401 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,000 something And he looked at the camera and he didn't blink and 1402 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,200 he's laughing. He's like you can't believe 1403 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,100 you'd ask me out. And then she says, blank if 1404 01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:38,000 you've slept blink twice, if you've slept with more than 500 1405 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,500 people and he doesn't blink and he goes, he's like I can't 1406 01:15:41,500 --> 01:15:45,100 believe you would say that I'm in the sub, 500 reigned by the 1407 01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:47,400 way or whatever. And then that yeah he said that 1408 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,900 and then there's all these headlines saying Tom Harry, 1409 01:15:49,900 --> 01:15:51,600 slept with 500 women or something. 1410 01:15:51,900 --> 01:15:57,000 So then the next week he goes I just want to clarify, you know, 1411 01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,200 I said I was in the sub. Hundred, you know, I've thought 1412 01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,300 about it this past week, I've gone over my dating history and 1413 01:16:04,300 --> 01:16:12,200 my number is six, maybe of like girls that he like, I don't 1414 01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:17,900 know, like shat on or something. His number is definitely way 1415 01:16:17,900 --> 01:16:22,100 more than six and I will say to like, also, the rumors of like, 1416 01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:24,700 the men that he's hooked up with as well. 1417 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:29,600 What I mean? I'm not as though it's 1418 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,700 interesting. You say that because I noticed 1419 01:16:31,700 --> 01:16:35,800 when she was asking that they kept saying people yeah yeah 1420 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,900 it's like it's like when your boyfriend's like oh I got like 1421 01:16:38,900 --> 01:16:42,600 lunch with a person and he ordered this you're like okay so 1422 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,500 it was a girl. It wasn't you know what did you 1423 01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:49,500 read about that? Well I hear that and him and 1424 01:16:49,500 --> 01:16:52,500 Andy Cohen have fucked up and then I heard that like over 1425 01:16:52,500 --> 01:16:56,700 covid him Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello were having 1426 01:16:56,700 --> 01:16:58,900 threesomes. Oh Oh wow. 1427 01:16:58,900 --> 01:17:01,000 And he would like someone's hook up with Shawn Mendes. 1428 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:05,700 Allegedly is what I read online, 6 number. 1429 01:17:05,700 --> 01:17:08,500 And he also goes. You knew about five, you knew 1430 01:17:08,500 --> 01:17:12,300 about fun. So maybe just meant dated. 1431 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:16,300 Yeah, problem. I mean, like I could, I feel 1432 01:17:16,300 --> 01:17:20,200 like if I reached out in my DMs and on Tick, Tock, I could find 1433 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:24,600 at least 17, you know, listeners who have slept with him, so like 1434 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:30,500 that. Random person who has slept with 1435 01:17:30,500 --> 01:17:33,000 him. And he said, six, you like a 1436 01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:41,400 piece of the pie hole size. I'm one of the six true. 1437 01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,900 If it really was six, I would be pretty pissed. 1438 01:17:43,900 --> 01:17:46,900 If I was John Mayer, that people have like, oh yeah, it's a 1439 01:17:46,907 --> 01:17:49,000 beauty. There's no way that there's no 1440 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,400 600. Yeah, because he even like, have 1441 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,800 these cuz back in the day, like, in Rolling Stone. 1442 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,100 He said things like blowing me off is the new sucking me off. 1443 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:04,400 Off has he son was 6. Maybe like people like his 1444 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:08,100 number that he claims is six like that's his number that he 1445 01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:09,200 wanted. No, he's definitely. 1446 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,500 He's just got to be lying through his teeth. 1447 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,600 Like maybe six in the past week. Like, this man has slept with so 1448 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,300 many people. What was his tone like, was he 1449 01:18:18,300 --> 01:18:22,000 smiling when he said it? No, he wasn't smiling. 1450 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,200 Yeah, that is kind of gaslighting Me. 1451 01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:30,000 Maybe remember on Degrassi. I don't know if you watch 1452 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,300 together. Oh yeah, spinner became a virgin 1453 01:18:33,300 --> 01:18:38,000 again. Oh, maybe he did that and then 1454 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,600 slept with six women since then, okay. 1455 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:45,500 So technically correct, yeah, you wouldn't have to think about 1456 01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:47,000 it. If your number was six, I feel 1457 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,700 like you were just, you know. Yeah, exactly. 1458 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,300 He spent the week thinking about it, he's gone. 1459 01:18:55,700 --> 01:18:57,300 Yeah. Well, he's yeah, he's written a 1460 01:18:57,300 --> 01:18:59,800 lot of songs. Since then it seemed like 1461 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:03,200 they're about Katy Perry. Like I still feel like your man 1462 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:08,100 and moving on and getting over people think it's about him 1463 01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:10,300 about her. So yeah I like that I got to 1464 01:19:10,300 --> 01:19:15,500 admit like I'm about to blast like Katie and John playlist 1465 01:19:15,500 --> 01:19:18,200 like tonight in my apartment and just listen and think about it 1466 01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,400 because their relationships more intriguing than I thought. 1467 01:19:20,700 --> 01:19:26,100 Yeah we usually say like chances people will get back together. 1468 01:19:27,700 --> 01:19:31,500 Dude, could we say chances that like they'll hook up again? 1469 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:32,300 Okay. Yeah. 1470 01:19:32,300 --> 01:19:35,500 That might be more 50. I would say. 1471 01:19:36,500 --> 01:19:39,600 Oh yeah, and I hope I get to like watch it because I'm sure 1472 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,300 they have some big bombs sex the way that they keep getting back 1473 01:19:42,300 --> 01:19:46,700 together. Oh my God. 50% as for getting 1474 01:19:46,700 --> 01:19:49,600 back together it seems really minuscule. 1475 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,100 Maybe like one person. Yeah, chance. 1476 01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:54,100 I don't know. Let me hire. 1477 01:19:54,100 --> 01:19:55,500 I think what she. She married now. 1478 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,200 Yeah but if that didn't work out. 1479 01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,900 Maybe like and maybe, tell ya, it's not impossible, probably 1480 01:20:02,900 --> 01:20:05,600 higher than most couples who talked about, mmm. 1481 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,300 That's John Katie. Yeah, well, thank you guys for 1482 01:20:08,300 --> 01:20:11,600 having me on like I did not that I knew stuff about them but I 1483 01:20:11,608 --> 01:20:14,700 didn't. And every time I ride a bowl I'm 1484 01:20:14,700 --> 01:20:25,200 going to think of their love and how I kind of endured Thank you 1485 01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,400 so much for joining us. Thanks for having me on.