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Are you long time tonight? 
Do you miss me tonight? 

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Are you sorry we drifted apart? 
Does your man? 

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Alright, welcome back to 
significant lovers. 

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We're back. 
We are your host. 

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My name is Mel. 
I'm Ko. 

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And. 
And we're cousins. 

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We're cousins and best friends. 
Ohh, and I'm drinking wine. 

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I'm drinking a Margarita. 
Ohh I didn't know. 

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Is it the canned one? 
Yes. 

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Be careful Mel. 
Be careful. 

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Only having one guys. 
These canned margaritas taste 

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like juice and those are 
dangerous. 

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I had two like 2 weekends ago 
and I thought I was gonna. 

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I literally. 
Oh my God. 

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I didn't want to tell you this, 
but I I didn't end up doing it. 

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But like, they have this service
where you can pay like $200 for 

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a nurse to come to your 
apartment and, like, hook you up

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to an IV. 
Oh yeah, I've heard of that. 

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I literally scheduled that 
because I was like I cannot 

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drink water, like I am going to 
die. 

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But then they called me and 
said. 

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Oh, we're too busy. 
Would you like to do it another 

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day? 
Like, no another day. 

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Like hopefully. 
I don't need you another day, 

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so. 
So you didn't do. 

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It I didn't do it. 
I persevered and I finally was 

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able to drink water and Gatorade
and I survived. 

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But it was tough. 
It was tough there for a while. 

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Wow, I've heard that works, but.
Yeah, it's a bit extreme it. 

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Would have been embarrassing. 
It would have been a. 

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Low point, but well, I'm so 
excited to be talking to you, 

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Mel, and to everybody listening.
Hello, this is a public episode 

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and this is a big episode. 
A big, big, big. 

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This is probably one of the most
famous breakups of all time. 

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This is a flagship episode. 
That's a good way to describe 

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it. 
This is a anchor, yes, it's a 

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ship. 
Oh my God, it's a ship. 

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I forgot to come up with my 3 
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I'm going to have to improvise. 
You have to do it on the spot to

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just well, first of all, who who
are we covering today, Mel? 

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We are covering Jennifer Aniston
and Brad Pitt. 

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Wow. 
Huge one and only. 

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But I guess I'm going to spoil 
it now. 

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Just so you guys know, the next 
episode, which is going to be on

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our Patreon is going to cover 
the relationship of Brad Pitt 

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and Angelina Jolie. 
So in a way, these two episodes 

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are kind of like a crossover 
event because the timelines for 

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both of them will be brought up.
So I'm going to talk a lot about

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Angelina Jolie in this episode 
and. 

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Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt, 
their relationship will be 

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continued in the next one as 
well. 

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So like, if you want me to talk 
about like the two of them, how 

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they are now, that's going to be
in the next episode. 

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I'm so excited. 
Oh my gosh. 

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So yeah, Mel Mel's doing these 
episodes. 

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I'm just chilling, listening. 
Was that hard to research the 

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two relationships? 
You know what like I feel like? 

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In my research they both just 
it's hard to separate the two. 

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So I felt like, see, there was 
no way for me to not kind of 

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have them back-to-back. 
Yeah, I feel like that's that's 

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really cool. 
We've never done that before. 

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This back-to-back two episodes, 
but that happens sometimes. 

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You know love triangles, Yeah. 
Leaving someone for someone 

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else. 
I feel like I first imagined 

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that we would, like, spread out 
his relationships, but I'm. 

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So into this that we're doing it
back-to-back. 

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It feels necessary. 
And so basically, this episode 

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will take more of a Jennifer 
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next one will take more of a 
Angelina perspective. 

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Wow. 
And Brad is just along for the 

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ride, so. 
We have covered Brad before. 

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We did Brad Gwyneth Paltrow 
episode back about the I don't 

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remember what number it was. 
I think it was in November or 

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October, but so if you want to 
hear about before this. 

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Yeah, that's a really good one, 
too. 

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Like, that was a really big 
couple for its time, and that's 

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a free episode. 
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covered. 
Wait, the three words I would 

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use to describe them, I would 
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Yes, flirty. 
Oh, flirty. 30 and thriving. 

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Yes. 
Flirty. 

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Oh, very public and idolized. 
That's definitely true. 

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But you know what? 
Even though I feel like I know a

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lot about this couple, I really 
don't. 

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I really don't. 
I don't know anything. 

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That's how I felt. 
Yeah, like I've seen pictures of

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them, I've seen the tabloids at 
the supermarket and stuff, but I

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don't really know anything 
actually about their. 

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Timeline in their relationship. 
And me either, because I felt 

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like as soon as they were on my 
radar, they had already broken 

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up. 
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Like, I remember watching the 
movie. 

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Rumor has it, you know. 
That. 

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Oh yeah. 
With all the drama, she sleeps. 

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She sleeps with a man who might 
potentially be her father, yes, 

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but with my family when I was 
like I must have been in 4th 

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grade or something and my mom 
says. 

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You know what? 
She's actually very pretty. 

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And I was like, why? 
Like, of course she's pretty. 

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I don't know why my mom had to 
say it like that, but I think it

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was because she was pitted 
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And not that I think one is more
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feel like Jenna I, and is this 
weird for me to say. 

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I feel like Jennifer Aniston has
a more like approachable beauty 

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to her, whereas Angelina Jolie 
has a more like mythical, like 

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etheral, unattainable beauty to 
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Does that make sense? 
I feel, yeah, I feel like the 

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press described Jennifer 
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At least my perception as being 
more like girl next door. 

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Yeah, normal, You know, like 
there was a girl in your high 

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school like this. 
Like, she's just a cool chick 

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and she's pretty, but she's not 
like, I don't know, Jessica 

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Rabbit or something. 
She's like the prom. 

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Yeah, it was Angelina Jolie 
like, Oh my God. 

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Angelina Jolie, like, might cast
a spell on you or something? 

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It's very intimidating. 
That's not like offensive for me

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to say, but but it's it's like 
it's a different kind of beauty.

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And I feel like, yeah, Jennifer 
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probably one of the most 
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world. 
But it's like. 

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She feels more like a normal 
person, I guess. 

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I don't know. 
It is. 

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It is crazy how people compared 
them so much and. 

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Then you have people doing the 
opposite where they're like, no,

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Jennifer is more beautiful, I 
prefer that type and. 

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Yeah, I mean. 
But I would like to get deeper 

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than that, you know. 
I feel like it kind of played on

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people's fears of you could be 
as beautiful as Jennifer 

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Aniston. 
And a man could still find 

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somebody who's like, not I I 
don't want to say more beautiful

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because I don't think like one 
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other, but like more 
unattainable in a way. 

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I don't know if that makes 
sense. 

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Yeah. 
I feel like Angelina Jolie. 

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I don't. 
I'll get into it in her episode.

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Yeah. 
I hope you guys understand what 

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I'm trying to say. 
I do. 

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I do, yeah. 
I was. 

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I was trying to think of. 
What it is about like trying to 

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describe in words what it is 
about Angelito Lee. 

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Yeah. 
But we'll get. 

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Even her name. 
Like, it's like Jennifer. 

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Yeah. 
And like Angelina. 

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Like, it's like there's 
something more like ether role 

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about her. 
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Yeah. 
So who is Jennifer Aniston? 

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We haven't covered her before. 
We haven't. 

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I have a feeling this won't be 
our last episode about. 

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Yeah, I really like her. 
I think she's a very interesting

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person. 
She was born February 11th, 1969

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in Los Angeles and she's a bit 
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Her father, John, he was a Greek
actor, best known for being on 

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Days of Our Lives and her mom? 
Did not know. 

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That yeah. 
Her mom, Nancy, was also an 

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actress and a model, and she had
an older half brother, John, 

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from her mom's side. 
And Jen's family actually lived 

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in Greece when she was in 
kindergarten and then moved to 

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New York City when she was 6. 
And they lived on the Upper West

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Side. 
And she attended the Fiorello H 

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LaGuardia High School of Music 
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What? 
Very interesting because she 

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also has says that her family 
was dirt poor growing up, but I 

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wonder if like they were like 
they're poor. 

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Yeah, yeah, they probably live 
paycheck to paycheck, but like. 

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That's because they have a lot 
of expenses, you know. 

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Yeah. 
And did you say Upper West Side?

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Yeah, yeah. 
I mean, in New York you can be 

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rich, but you still feel poor 
because your apartment is small 

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and it's crowded and yeah, 
there's rats and stuff. 

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So I can see why she would think
that, even if she probably, they

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probably were making more money 
than someone, you know, out in 

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the country. 
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That's so true. 
And at age 9, Jen came home from

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a birthday party and out of 
nowhere, she learned from her 

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mother that her father had 
actually left her mom for 

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another woman, which is kind of 
crazy that that's like 

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foreshadowing her future in a 
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And while he pursued that 
relationship, she didn't see her

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father for almost a year and. 
Her mother was a very 

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classically beautiful woman, and
ironically, she became John. 

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She became known for her looks, 
like in her Rachel haircut. 

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But she claims that she grew up 
with a very big and frizzy 

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hairstyle and that kids at 
school were really mean to her. 

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And they called her chubby. 
But honestly, I was looking at 

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pictures from when she was 
young. 

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Maybe they're just not 
available. 

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Like, she was never like, quote 
chubby. 

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So I don't know if she's just 
like saying that. 

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But I mean, I'll take her word 
for it, but she told Vanity 

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Fair. 
I was a big fat was who liked 

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Aerosmith? 
Big Fat was who liked Aerosmith.

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So she's kind of like painting 
herself as, I don't know, Yeah, 

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I guess more losers, Yeah, Yeah.
The loser who turns pretty or 

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something. 
And apparently in grade school, 

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a group of kids actually dumped 
paint on her when she was 

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entering the classroom. 
I know. 

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What? 
She said. 

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I guess it's possible. 
Yeah, that she was bullied. 

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It's almost like she like claims
to have like Monica's back story

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from friends. 
Yeah. 

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And she says that she turned to 
humor as a way to cope and that 

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she was known as the class 
clown. 

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In school she did Off Broadway 
acting and she worked part time 

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jobs, the waitress and a 
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messenger. 
And then in 1998 or 1988 she 

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started doing TV appearances and
moved to LA and she landed roles

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in four very short lived TV 
shows, including a show called 

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Malloy, a Ferris Bueller TV 
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A show called The Edge and 
another show called Muddling, 

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Through, all of which were 
quickly canceled after either a 

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few episodes or a season. 
So Jen was feeling really 

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depressed, and she's 24 years 
old, and she pulls into a gas 

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station on Sunset Blvd. 
And as she's getting out of her 

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car, she looks and she sees 
Warren Littlefield, who was then

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the producer of NBC, and he was 
pumping his gas. 

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And she must have known him 
personally through her father 

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because Days of Our Lives is one
of the longest lasting. 

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It actually is the longest 
lasting NBC show. 

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So it's not like, you know, he 
was just some big producer and 

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she walked up to him, but she 
walked up to him and said, is it

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ever going to happen for me? 
And he said that she shouldn't 

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take it personally. 
And that we believe in you. 

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I love you. 
I so believe in your talent. 

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I'm sure it will. 
And then a few months later, he 

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gave her the script of Friends 
and she originally auditioned 

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for Monica, but that they felt 
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fit. 
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Rachel and the rest is history. 
She actually, at the same time, 

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was also given the opportunity 
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like she was offered a role as a
reoccurring. 

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Cast Member there, but she 
decided to do Friends instead. 

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That was. 
That was a smart choice. 

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Like, I can't really picture her
on SNL as a cast member. 

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I know. 
I don't know. 

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Like, she's funny. 
But, like, I'm not, like, 

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falling out of my chair. 
Yeah, humor. 

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I agree on SNL. 
Some people become stars, but 

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some people just kind of, I 
don't know, fall to the wayside 

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a bit so. 
I don't know. 

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There's just no knowing what 
would have happened if she did 

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that. 
But friends, Oh my gosh, that's 

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like one of the most famous 
shows of all. 

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Oh yeah. 
It was like at one point, I 

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think the highest watch show on 
television. 

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Yeah. 
I would describe her as a hard 

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worker, a mediator. 
She's always looking to make 

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other people laugh and to 
relieve tension. 

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Oh. 
It seems like she avoids 

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conflict at all cost, and she 
really tries her best to be 

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strong. 
Just from her interviews, I feel

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like she forces herself to look 
on the bright side and to spend 

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things as positive to not seem 
like they affect her. 

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Even when things are incredibly 
dark and very hard, she always, 

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like, tries so hard to not peer,
bitter or resentful. 

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And like, sometimes I think she 
goes a little bit too far. 

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Interesting. 
Like when she was describing her

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dad leaving unexpectedly, she 
was like, you know, it's almost 

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for the better. 
It was like ripping off the 

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Band-Aid. 
OK, no, you can just say, like, 

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it was really hard. 
You don't have to. 

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Like, don't. 
You don't have to act like. 

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It was like, yeah. 
And like when she was describing

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how so her mom was very 
beautiful and her mom would pick

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on Jen's appearance. 
And she said in. 

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An interview with Diane Sawyer. 
Like, you know, she was helping 

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me out. 
She was doing me a favor. 

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It's like, no. 
Like, you know how to give, like

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everybody, the benefit of the 
doubt? 

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I don't know. 
Wow. 

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It it's that's sad, though. 
It's like she feels like she 

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can't be upset or express 
discontent in any way. 

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Yeah, that's interesting that 
you picked up on that. 

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Oh, definitely. 
And it definitely I think. 

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He's going to come up with her 
divorce because something that 

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people are very much expected to
be bitter and resentful for. 

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I feel like she tried very hard 
to, like, make it seem like she 

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didn't like obviously she cared,
but like, she wasn't mad at Brad

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or something, you know? 
But yeah, like, you already 

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covered Brad. 
So I won't really get into his 

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back story, but as a little 
refresher, he was born in 

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Oklahoma, full name William 
Bradley Pitt. 

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His father owned a trucking 
company. 

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His mom was a guidance 
counselor. 

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They moved to Missouri. 
He dropped out of college after 

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two weeks. 
We talked about this. 

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No, with two weeks left. 
Oh, two weeks left. 

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I'm sorry. 
Yes, two weeks left and before 

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graduating. 
And then moved to LA to take 

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acting lessons. 
Not even like he had a part. 

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Like he just moved there to take
lessons. 

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And then he became a breakout 
star after appearing in Thelma 

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and Louise. 
And yeah, I recommend people 

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check out. 
Our Brad and Gwyneth episode for

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a little bit more about his back
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relationships. 
Before Jen, a little summary he 

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Before being with Jennifer 
Aniston, he had been engaged 

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twice. 
Once to Gwyneth Paltrow and once

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to Jill Scholand. 
He popped the question in 1989 

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and they were engaged for three 
months. 

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Yeah, he was against to her, 
then Gwyneth. 

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He said Gwyneth was the love of 
my life. 

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So the love of my life. 
Guess that wasn't true. 

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What is true? 
That's deep. 

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But so yeah. 
So how did they meet? 

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They met in 1994. 
Jen was 25. 

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He was 30. 
Both of their managers were 

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friends with each other and 
introduced them. 

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And around this time, Brad was 
still dating Gwyneth, and Jen 

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was dating actor Tate Donovan 
and yeah. 

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Wait, I'm sorry. 
He was on the OC. 

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Oh yes, that's who it is. 
Well, at this point he wouldn't 

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have been on the OC yet, but 
when he's older he's on the OC. 

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Yeah, but he was on Friends too.
OK. 

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Yeah, that makes sense. 
Anyway, they look like a cute 

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couple. 
Maybe we could cover them 

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someday. 
Yeah, that. 

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Would be cool. 
He dated Sandra Pollock. 

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Right. 
Yeah, I feel like Tate Donovan, 

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I don't know. 
He's one of those guys that 

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surprisingly dated a lot of like
a list women and then kind of 

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went back into the shadows. 
Yeah, maybe. 

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Anyway, he just, like, went 
through too many. 

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I feel like it would be so 
awkward in Hollywood. 

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Like, it's such like you have to
run into these people all the 

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time. 
I know, And that will come up. 

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But yeah, so Jen later told 
Rolling Stone in 2001 about her 

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first impression of Brad. 
She said he was just the sweet 

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guy from Missouri, you know, a 
normal guy. 

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And then years later, Brad and 
Gwyneth were engaged like we 

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said, but then broke up in 1997,
and Jen and Tate broke up in 90.

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98 And sometime that year they 
were set up on a dinner date, I 

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think by their agents again in 
West Hollywood. 

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And Jen was actually asked about
this date on Diane Sawyer, and 

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that's the first clip. 
You knew right away. 

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Yeah, we both did on our first 
date. 

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It was weird. 
Did you say it or just? 

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No, no, thought it. 
I thought it. 

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That's weird. 
That was a really easy evening. 

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That was really fun. 
That was. 

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Strange. 
But her saying like I thought 

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it. 
I don't know. 

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Just the way she was talking and
motioning her face, it was 

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intense. 
Honestly, Diane Sawyer is like, 

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creepy to me. 
Like, I don't know the way she, 

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like, interviews people. 
Like, she's so serious and I 

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feel like it makes everything 
maybe. 

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It seems serious, yeah. 
It feels like, cryptic, like 

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even though it's like just about
Jennifer Aniston, it still feels

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like it's like a murder mystery,
you know? 

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Yeah, yeah, I feel like I was 
picking up on that. 

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Mmhmm. 
But wow. 

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OK, they felt it. 
Yeah. 

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And so then in 1998, both Brad 
and Jen's careers, they are on 

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fire. 
At this time, Friends had the 

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second highest ratings on TV, 
just behind ER, and Brad was in 

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high demand as a movie actor. 
He had only just recently been 

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nominated for an O2 years 
earlier and was working on Fight

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Club, which is arguably like one
of his biggest films. 

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And then we're In 1999, after a 
year of dating, they made their 

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first public debut as a couple 
at the Emmy Awards, where 

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Friends was nominated for the 
best Comedy series, and they 

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walked the red carpet together 
and Friends lost to Ally Mcbeal.

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But people suddenly were 
obsessed with this new hot 

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couple, and according to Jen, 
they were bonding a lot about 

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their music tastes. 
And they both listened to a lot 

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of Radiohead at the time. 
I like that detail, yeah. 

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That's something I want to 
moving forward, always kind of 

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figure out with couples is like 
what is it about each other that

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they were attracted to? 
Yes. 

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Yeah. 
Like what? 

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What is like what their 
conversations about? 

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Yes, yes, Yeah. 
I think music was a big thing 

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that bonded them. 
And so then in November, they 

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attended a Sting concert in New 
York City, and they got on stage

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with Sting. 
And while he was performing, Jen

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lifts up her hand to show off 
her engagement ring. 

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And then together, they sing the
lyrics to Sting's song, fill her

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up into the microphone. 
Which are we're going to Vegas, 

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We're going to get wed. 
So fill her up, son. 

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Don't be staring. 
Yeah, that's a real diamond she 

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be wearing. 
Oh my God, this was like after a

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year of dating or so. 
And because this is such a 

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public display, like I feel like
this made people so obsessed 

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with them. 
Makes sense. 

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Brad kind of freaks me out with 
how easily he proposes to 

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people. 
Oh yeah, this is his third 

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engagement. 
His third engagement. 

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I mean, he's only like like 30-4
or something, yeah. 

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I feel like if I was going to be
like, what the hell, I know, OK?

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Anyway, I know it's like, I 
don't really know that many 

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people from real life probably 
like, maybe like one person 

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who's been engaged and then 
broken it off. 

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It's like kind of a big deal, 
you know? 

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That must be that must be tough 
for him proposing too, when it's

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like I have been through this 
before. 

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Yeah, like getting on one knee, 
being all heartfelt about it. 

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Like, will you spend the rest of
your life with me? 

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Like, that's just crazy that 
he's already done that. 

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I know. 
But we've talked about this 

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before and like with 
celebrities, like everything is 

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so exciting for them that like, 
I feel like they kind of have to

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do stuff like that pretty early 
on to get like that high because

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like. 
They have to take it to the next

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level. 
Because otherwise life is 

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boring. 
Doing exciting things all the 

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time. 
Yeah. 

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And like, you know, they have 
the means. 

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Like, I know some people were 
like, they're just like saving 

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up to get a ring. 
You can go like if you can buy 

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like. 
I know, Yeah, really expensive. 

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Like several $1000 rings. 
Like, it's no big deal. 

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Like, why don't you? 
You know. 

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I feel like that's so true, like
so many normal people getting 

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married. 
Something you really have to 

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work for and wait for, like 
paying for the wedding and the 

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ring and like hopefully 
honeymoon or something. 

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Like they can just do it so 
easily. 

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So if you're in love, then like,
yeah, let's do it. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
It's like no big deal. 

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Like they don't have to worry 
about any of the logistics that 

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go into it. 
Yeah, that us normal people 

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think about. 
And I feel like the logistics 

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makes you. 
Really think about is this 

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really the one? 
Because I'm about to spend a ton

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of money on this. 
That's so. 

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True. 
So I'm only doing this once. 

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Like, is this really my soul 
mate, you know? 

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Whereas like a celebrity, I feel
like, doesn't quite have to 

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question it as much because it's
easy. 

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Oh my gosh, that's so true. 
Yeah, it's like no big deal. 

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Like, because that would be a 
huge mistake to spend. 

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Like, I know and like, people 
make it and it's like, Oh my 

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God, I just got like $30,000 for
a wedding. 

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And all their friends and family
that have to pay for gifts and 

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stuff and they can't really 
afford it. 

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Like, it's just, it's a lot. 
It's a pressure that celebrities

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don't understand. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So they just, they're in love. 
Let's get married. 

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Like, let's do it. 
Yeah. 

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And they did it. 
It's 2000, July 29th. 

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She's 31. 
He is 36. 

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They got married on the coast of
Malibu at the estate of TV 

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producer Marcy Carsey, best 
known for producing The Cosby 

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Show, Roseanne and That 70s 
Show. 

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And Jen walked down the aisle in
a glass bead low back gown by 

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Lawrence Steele, and the couple 
reportedly both received brother

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and sister highlights, according
to Bride magazine, to their 

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hairs ahead of the ceremony. 
Yeah, I think it's weird. 

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It's called matching Matching 
highlights, yeah. 

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It's kind of cute, yeah. 
And we talked about this in the 

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Brad and Gwyneth episode that, 
like, he always makes his hair 

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and style match his girlfriend. 
I forgot. 

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About that he does. 
He always matches the hair. 

454
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,360
He like neighbors them. 
It's a lot. 

455
00:26:28,850 --> 00:26:34,530
Brad's an interesting fellow. 
He is, yeah, and there were 

456
00:26:34,570 --> 00:26:38,610
50,000 flowers present because 
Brad wanted the wedding to look 

457
00:26:38,610 --> 00:26:45,330
like a Zen garden and the the 
bridesmaids wore pale green 

458
00:26:45,330 --> 00:26:48,970
dresses for their first dance. 
They danced to The Way You Look 

459
00:26:48,970 --> 00:26:52,930
Tonight and they had live 
performances by a Forty person 

460
00:26:52,930 --> 00:26:59,850
Gospel Choir and Melissa 
Etheridge and Greek Buzuki band 

461
00:26:59,970 --> 00:27:04,170
and a 13 minute fireworks show 
to close out the evening. 

462
00:27:04,450 --> 00:27:10,170
Wow. 
Yeah, a normal person could not 

463
00:27:10,650 --> 00:27:14,010
drop money like that Willy 
nilly. 

464
00:27:15,730 --> 00:27:18,010
That's. 
Like, she just married Gadsby or

465
00:27:18,010 --> 00:27:19,370
something. 
I know. 

466
00:27:19,410 --> 00:27:25,490
Yeah, very extravagant. 
And there was lots of paparazzi 

467
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:29,430
overhead, taking aerial shots of
the venue like this was. 

468
00:27:29,870 --> 00:27:35,230
Highly anticipated and it's 
crazy we even know this much 

469
00:27:35,230 --> 00:27:37,550
information about it, but it was
huge. 

470
00:27:38,030 --> 00:27:41,470
It's fun, I know. 
And noticeably absent from the 

471
00:27:41,470 --> 00:27:45,470
wedding was Jen's mother, who 
one year earlier had actually 

472
00:27:45,470 --> 00:27:50,500
written an unauthorized tell all
book about raising Jen against 

473
00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:54,140
her wishes, which made Jen feel 
exploited. 

474
00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:56,220
And she cut her mom out of her 
life. 

475
00:27:56,220 --> 00:27:59,260
So I guess that's a little 
contrary to what I said earlier 

476
00:27:59,260 --> 00:28:02,540
about, like always looking on 
the bright side, but even like 

477
00:28:02,540 --> 00:28:05,420
talking about it. 
Like when she gave interviews, 

478
00:28:05,420 --> 00:28:07,340
like she said, like, you know, I
was really hurt. 

479
00:28:07,340 --> 00:28:10,540
I felt like she took advantage, 
but she still doesn't really 

480
00:28:10,540 --> 00:28:13,340
like bad mouth her mom. 
She's like, I just need space. 

481
00:28:13,540 --> 00:28:17,380
I'm sure in private she does get
upset, yeah. 

482
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:23,120
Go off on people, but she 
publicly doesn't want to for 

483
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:26,600
whatever reason. 
That's really upsetting. 

484
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,480
That would be very painful, I 
think. 

485
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,160
Yeah. 
And she. 

486
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,680
Before she like a betrayal. 
Oh, growing up, she was very, 

487
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:39,080
very close with her mom too. 
So wow, this was a huge blow for

488
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,960
her. 
And yeah, that would be very. 

489
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,280
I'm trying to imagine like my 
own mom doing something like 

490
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,000
that. 
I would. 

491
00:28:48,130 --> 00:28:51,730
I would be so upset because it's
your mom. 

492
00:28:51,810 --> 00:28:53,930
Like, it's like, that's the 
person who's supposed to protect

493
00:28:53,930 --> 00:28:57,810
you the most. 
That's so sad because nobody 

494
00:28:57,810 --> 00:29:00,610
wants to cut out their mother, 
you know, Exactly. 

495
00:29:00,650 --> 00:29:04,650
That's so painful. 
That's just, yeah, I mean, it's 

496
00:29:04,650 --> 00:29:10,010
such a huge betrayal of trust 
and it's, I don't know if it 

497
00:29:10,010 --> 00:29:14,860
came from like her, like mom's 
insecurity about finances from 

498
00:29:14,860 --> 00:29:16,540
when they were younger or 
something. 

499
00:29:16,540 --> 00:29:19,780
I think Jen maybe said that like
her mom was always worried about

500
00:29:19,780 --> 00:29:23,940
like money, so she saw this as 
an opportunity for herself. 

501
00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:26,780
But it's pretty bad. 
Still, I'm sure Jen could have 

502
00:29:26,780 --> 00:29:31,660
given her money, I know. 
If she really needed it, yeah. 

503
00:29:31,660 --> 00:29:33,300
Like, why is that the way to get
it? 

504
00:29:33,820 --> 00:29:36,540
Yeah. 
And Jen legally changed her last

505
00:29:36,540 --> 00:29:40,030
name to Pitt and they did not 
sign that. 

506
00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:43,230
Yeah, they didn't sign a prenup.
And this is my question for the 

507
00:29:43,230 --> 00:29:45,390
audience, Like, what do you guys
think of prenups? 

508
00:29:45,390 --> 00:29:49,030
Like, do you think it's less 
romantic to sign one, or do you 

509
00:29:49,030 --> 00:29:53,270
think it's like just a 
necessity, especially if you 

510
00:29:53,270 --> 00:29:58,430
have that much money? 
That's a good question. 

511
00:29:59,230 --> 00:30:04,310
I feel like I don't know too 
much about them and like how it 

512
00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:06,820
works. 
I think it's like you're 

513
00:30:06,820 --> 00:30:11,100
deciding before you get married 
how you would divide your 

514
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:14,380
assets. 
Is it only an event of divorce? 

515
00:30:14,820 --> 00:30:20,380
I think so, yeah. 
Not death, I don't know. 

516
00:30:20,380 --> 00:30:23,180
That's probably more of a will 
than, yeah, I think that's a. 

517
00:30:23,220 --> 00:30:23,860
Will. 
Yeah. 

518
00:30:24,660 --> 00:30:26,020
It Yeah. 
I don't know. 

519
00:30:26,020 --> 00:30:29,340
It does seem very unromantic to 
me. 

520
00:30:30,270 --> 00:30:32,070
I don't know, I guess, but some 
people have different 

521
00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:34,230
definitions about why they're 
getting married. 

522
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:36,310
Like, I don't know, I it is odd 
to me. 

523
00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:39,590
It's it's it's very weird, I 
think to think, like, if this 

524
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:43,710
doesn't work out, I don't know. 
But it's weird because Jen and 

525
00:30:43,710 --> 00:30:46,990
Brad didn't sign a prenup. 
But it seems like their divorce 

526
00:30:46,990 --> 00:30:48,790
was actually not that 
complicated. 

527
00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:53,110
And not to spoil anything, but 
like, Angelina and Brad signed a

528
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:55,830
prenup and they're still not 
legally divorced. 

529
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:57,390
Like they're still fighting 
about. 

530
00:30:57,850 --> 00:30:59,610
So maybe it doesn't even help. 
Yeah. 

531
00:30:59,970 --> 00:31:03,410
I mean, I feel like it's based 
off of, I'm pretty sure this 

532
00:31:03,410 --> 00:31:06,010
might be wrong, but I'm pretty 
sure it's based off of like your

533
00:31:06,010 --> 00:31:08,570
assets at the time you get 
married, if you've been married 

534
00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:12,410
to someone for a number of years
and then like buy properties and

535
00:31:12,810 --> 00:31:15,370
like. 
To build wealth together. 

536
00:31:15,370 --> 00:31:18,050
I don't know like how that's 
accounted for. 

537
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:20,140
And it was just way jumping 
ahead. 

538
00:31:20,140 --> 00:31:23,260
But I know that Brad and 
Angelina like owned a vineyard 

539
00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:25,580
together and that caused a lot 
of problems, right? 

540
00:31:25,580 --> 00:31:27,340
Because they're self she tried 
to sell. 

541
00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:30,100
Yeah, she tried to sell her 
shares to other people or 

542
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:31,700
something. 
I don't know. 

543
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:34,460
I'm very excited to get into 
that and the next step. 

544
00:31:34,580 --> 00:31:38,220
So that will be fun. 
Well, I mean sad for them. 

545
00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:41,700
It's a family, of course, but 
yes, fun to talk about, I guess.

546
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:42,940
I'm a terrible. 
It will be. 

547
00:31:42,980 --> 00:31:45,300
It'll be interesting. 
Yeah. 

548
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:50,320
But we're not there yet. 
Yeah, we got a long ways to go. 

549
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:55,960
So then for their honeymoon, the
newlyweds took a private trip to

550
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,000
the island of Seychelles, which 
is located in the Indian Ocean 

551
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,360
in the East Coast of Africa. 
And I don't think any paparazzi 

552
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,000
found them there, which is nice.
And they made their first debut 

553
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,280
as a married couple once again 
at the Emmy Awards. 

554
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:19,250
That's a big place for them. 
And later in 2004, Jen said that

555
00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:22,210
the first year of marriage was 
both the hardest and best year 

556
00:32:22,210 --> 00:32:24,650
of her life. 
And that she said it's just 

557
00:32:24,810 --> 00:32:28,010
getting used to the idea that 
you're married and am I ready? 

558
00:32:28,370 --> 00:32:30,050
There's always that. 
Am I ready? 

559
00:32:30,050 --> 00:32:31,290
Question. 
I don't know. 

560
00:32:31,290 --> 00:32:35,690
I thought I was ready. 
That's weird. 

561
00:32:35,810 --> 00:32:43,210
I know it's kind of cryptic. 
I thought it was that implies 

562
00:32:43,210 --> 00:32:44,930
like trouble in paradise, kind 
of. 

563
00:32:45,210 --> 00:32:46,330
It does. 
It does. 

564
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,600
And in 2001, in June they 
purchased a 12,000 square foot 

565
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:57,040
home with six bedrooms in 
Beverly Hills for $13.5 million,

566
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200
which they would spend the next 
three years renovating. 

567
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,560
That was like a big part of 
pretty much every interview I 

568
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,560
read about them was like talking
about them working on their 

569
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,240
home. 
And I think that did maybe cause

570
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,200
a bit of tension between them. 
Some disagreements about like 

571
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,240
style choices or, you know, just
like little things that couples 

572
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,080
might bicker about. 
But not nothing like that. 

573
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,240
Too serious. 
You know, Charlie and I totally 

574
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,440
bicker about that. 
I think it's a common thing. 

575
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,520
I remember it came up in the 
James Taylor and Carly Simon one

576
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,520
about the pool. 
When she put in a pool without 

577
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:44,080
asking, it's pretty bad. 
But you would think as a 

578
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,740
celebrity, like you have so much
money that doesn't really matter

579
00:33:48,740 --> 00:33:49,780
but. 
I know. 

580
00:33:49,780 --> 00:33:52,460
We were wondering what's about 
why doesn't he want a pool? 

581
00:33:54,780 --> 00:33:56,900
Like, I feel like if you had 
that much money you would assume

582
00:33:56,900 --> 00:33:58,620
like, well, why wouldn't we have
a pool? 

583
00:33:58,660 --> 00:34:04,380
I know, Yeah, that's just like 
buying toilet paper at that 

584
00:34:04,380 --> 00:34:06,060
point. 
Yeah, for them. 

585
00:34:08,219 --> 00:34:10,340
No, it's it's. 
I think he had a problem with 

586
00:34:10,659 --> 00:34:14,620
them having a pool, like when 
they live so close to the beach.

587
00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:16,860
But you know what? 
Best of both worlds. 

588
00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:21,020
I know. 
So then it's yeah. 

589
00:34:22,179 --> 00:34:25,420
Then in September, Jen does an 
interview with Rolling Stone and

590
00:34:25,420 --> 00:34:27,460
gives us insight into their 
married life. 

591
00:34:27,780 --> 00:34:30,780
She says that her friends 
originally expected Brad to be 

592
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:34,060
conceded, but that they came 
around to see that he's a great 

593
00:34:34,060 --> 00:34:37,020
person. 
And she also said that being 

594
00:34:37,020 --> 00:34:41,880
married is like, you know, well,
she said about being married. 

595
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,120
You know, if there's an 
argument, it's not like you can 

596
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,880
go screw you. 
I'm out of here. 

597
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:48,639
You're there for the long haul. 
It's a beautiful thing to 

598
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:52,480
actually realize that for the 
first time, to have that knowing

599
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,840
it takes the heat and the weight
out of things, which I think is 

600
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,280
true. 
Like, that's kind of why I like 

601
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,000
the idea of marriage. 
It's like it is harder to break 

602
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,320
up. 
And I know that might sound 

603
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,440
like, almost like you're a 
hostage in a way, but like, I 

604
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:14,940
think if you really care about a
lifelong partnership and 

605
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:23,580
commitment, it's nice to have 
that certificate to make it 

606
00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:25,620
just, yeah, harder to break up 
in that way. 

607
00:35:25,620 --> 00:35:28,500
Like, you have to really 
question, like, is this what I 

608
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:31,660
really want to do? 
And you know that, like, I 

609
00:35:31,660 --> 00:35:34,620
really made a vow. 
So like, I'm going to actually 

610
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:37,660
put in more work to work on the 
relationship. 

611
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,840
I agree. 
The way I see it is like you're 

612
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,960
they're becoming your family. 
They're not blood related to 

613
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,800
you, but they're becoming your 
family. 

614
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,400
Exactly. 
It's kind of like no matter 

615
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,760
what, you can never make your 
sibling. 

616
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,880
Not your sibling or your parent.
Not your parent. 

617
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,240
And like, I guess you can. 
Yeah, you can make your spouse, 

618
00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:00,200
not your spouse. 
But that's kind of the idea is 

619
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,680
like, we're becoming more than 
just dating, you know? 

620
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,200
This is like, you're my family 
now. 

621
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,450
Yeah. 
We we are together. 

622
00:36:09,810 --> 00:36:12,610
That's why I feel like divorce 
must be so traumatizing. 

623
00:36:12,610 --> 00:36:16,450
Because it's like going back on 
something that you owe one point

624
00:36:16,450 --> 00:36:17,930
thought you would never, ever 
do. 

625
00:36:17,930 --> 00:36:19,970
Like otherwise you wouldn't have
gotten married in the first 

626
00:36:19,970 --> 00:36:22,530
place. 
Yeah, sad. 

627
00:36:23,570 --> 00:36:27,290
So Brad in November of that year
guest starred on an episode of 

628
00:36:27,290 --> 00:36:30,250
Friends where his character 
hates Rachel. 

629
00:36:30,250 --> 00:36:34,050
I feel like people love that. 
I to be honest with you guys, I 

630
00:36:34,090 --> 00:36:37,740
have seen several episodes of 
Friends, but I've never really 

631
00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:40,420
watched it. 
Like, oh, really? 

632
00:36:40,980 --> 00:36:42,620
Like, I know enough about the 
show. 

633
00:36:42,620 --> 00:36:46,020
Like, I've seen episodes here 
and there, but like, I've never 

634
00:36:46,020 --> 00:36:51,060
watched like it consecutively. 
I I did. 

635
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:55,220
And I remember that episode and 
he's very cute. 

636
00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:59,460
Yeah, I love that episode. 
Yeah, I watched the whole thing 

637
00:36:59,460 --> 00:37:02,860
in order in college and I love 
it. 

638
00:37:03,820 --> 00:37:06,900
And I think it's great and I get
annoyed when people hate on it 

639
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:10,260
because I feel like it got just 
like too overexposed. 

640
00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:15,060
Maybe. 
But it's. 

641
00:37:15,140 --> 00:37:16,100
I don't know. 
I like it. 

642
00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:20,820
Such a big part of TV history 
and it's like such a cultural 

643
00:37:20,820 --> 00:37:22,020
phenomenon. 
Gen. 

644
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:25,380
X, yeah, it's what a different 
time that like a sitcom on 

645
00:37:25,380 --> 00:37:28,780
network TV could be like the 
most watched or second most 

646
00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:34,660
watched TV show in the country. 
And now it's like nobody even 

647
00:37:34,660 --> 00:37:36,540
watches those shows anymore. 
Unless they just, like 

648
00:37:36,580 --> 00:37:39,340
accidentally leave the TV on 
after like the news or 

649
00:37:39,340 --> 00:37:42,020
something. 
I know, kind of stuff. 

650
00:37:42,020 --> 00:37:44,140
Maybe it'll come back someday. 
Yeah. 

651
00:37:45,620 --> 00:37:47,580
I hope. 
Yeah, I hope so. 

652
00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:54,020
Anyway, anyway, so then it's 
2003 February, Jen does an 

653
00:37:54,060 --> 00:37:56,860
interview with W magazine, and 
she's asked what it's like to 

654
00:37:56,860 --> 00:37:59,860
have found the love of her life.
And she answers. 

655
00:38:00,820 --> 00:38:03,630
Is he the love of my life? 
I think you're always sort of 

656
00:38:03,630 --> 00:38:06,190
wondering, are you the love of 
my life? 

657
00:38:06,190 --> 00:38:08,950
I mean, I don't know. 
I've never been someone who says

658
00:38:09,230 --> 00:38:12,270
he's the love of my life. 
He's certainly a big love in my 

659
00:38:12,270 --> 00:38:14,070
life. 
And I know that we have 

660
00:38:14,070 --> 00:38:17,950
something special, especially in
all this chaos and this nutty, 

661
00:38:17,950 --> 00:38:20,670
brilliant, wonderful, hard 
business that we have. 

662
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:24,430
It's nice to have somebody who's
anchored and knows you, really 

663
00:38:24,430 --> 00:38:25,590
knows all of you. 
Wow. 

664
00:38:27,870 --> 00:38:33,220
That's interesting, especially 
since Brad is the kind of person

665
00:38:33,220 --> 00:38:35,900
to call someone the love all my 
life. 

666
00:38:39,380 --> 00:38:42,100
Wow. 
It's just so interesting because

667
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:46,180
I feel like so many women and 
men too, probably think that 

668
00:38:46,180 --> 00:38:49,860
Brad Pitt is so attractive and 
Oh my God, I wish I could be 

669
00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:52,620
with him. 
It's it's just very interesting 

670
00:38:52,620 --> 00:38:55,420
to hear her say. 
She won't even say that he's the

671
00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:59,100
love of her life, I know, but I 
want to give her the benefit of 

672
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:03,110
the doubt and I feel like she 
just like kind of hates being 

673
00:39:03,110 --> 00:39:07,190
asked stuff like that and is. 
I do think it seems like even 

674
00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:11,510
though she is very public about 
things like is also a little bit

675
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:15,910
afraid to be vulnerable with the
press and doesn't like want to 

676
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:19,830
give people her power of like 
saying like, Oh yeah, I'm in 

677
00:39:19,830 --> 00:39:21,110
love with him. 
I don't know. 

678
00:39:21,830 --> 00:39:25,430
I think it's like less about him
and more about like she doesn't 

679
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:28,470
want to like, say something that
vulnerable. 

680
00:39:31,180 --> 00:39:34,220
And I do think by the time 
you're 30 or whatever and she's 

681
00:39:34,220 --> 00:39:37,940
had other relationships, I don't
know, the concept might be a 

682
00:39:37,940 --> 00:39:40,460
little less simple than it maybe
would have been. 

683
00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:44,380
Yeah, exactly. 
It is quite a heavy question to 

684
00:39:44,380 --> 00:39:48,860
ask somebody SO. 
Yeah, I think maybe she's just 

685
00:39:48,860 --> 00:39:51,580
like being philosophical. 
I know. 

686
00:39:51,580 --> 00:39:52,780
Like, what is that? 
Do that. 

687
00:39:53,060 --> 00:39:55,660
Yeah. 
Oh God, that reminds me of 

688
00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:57,540
questions. 
Prince Charles. 

689
00:39:57,740 --> 00:40:00,180
Oh yeah, Charles? 
He was asked. 

690
00:40:00,340 --> 00:40:04,180
Charles, are you in love? 
Yes, whatever love is or 

691
00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:07,220
whatever. 
Like Charles, this is not the 

692
00:40:07,220 --> 00:40:08,580
time to be called something 
cool. 

693
00:40:11,020 --> 00:40:18,380
Whatever. 
Love is trying to have like a I 

694
00:40:18,380 --> 00:40:21,340
totally, I totally think that's 
what he was doing though, 

695
00:40:21,790 --> 00:40:24,510
because I I don't know, I just 
got obsessive with Charles and 

696
00:40:24,510 --> 00:40:28,390
Link read so much about him and 
he totally was just being like a

697
00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:31,830
philosophical prick and was 
trying to be trying to question.

698
00:40:31,830 --> 00:40:32,430
That yeah. 
Yeah. 

699
00:40:32,750 --> 00:40:36,070
What is love? 
I really don't think he was 

700
00:40:36,070 --> 00:40:38,950
trying. 
It still came off like an 

701
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:42,110
asshole. 
But I think he wasn't trying to 

702
00:40:42,110 --> 00:40:45,760
shade Diana. 
He was just yeah. 

703
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,080
Trying to be deep. 
That's kind of what I think Jen 

704
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,280
was doing too. 
But of course, like you read 

705
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,400
that in a magazine, it does 
raise some eyebrows. 

706
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,720
Wow. 
And Jen is asked if they fight, 

707
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:02,040
and she says that they do, but 
that they're more like 

708
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,840
discussions and that she's not a
fan of yelling. 

709
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,720
She also adds that Brad is very 
kind, which is very different 

710
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:12,440
from her upbringing where her 
parents would fight. 

711
00:41:13,540 --> 00:41:16,820
And around this time, Jen is 
being taken more seriously as a 

712
00:41:16,820 --> 00:41:20,380
film actor. 
She starts receiving Oscar buzz 

713
00:41:20,380 --> 00:41:24,380
for her role in the drama The 
Good Girl and starts doing more 

714
00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:28,300
and more films. 
Then in 2004, it's January and 

715
00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:30,940
Jen does a sent down interview 
with Diane Sawyer. 

716
00:41:30,940 --> 00:41:34,420
I already showed you guys part 
of this interview before and she

717
00:41:34,420 --> 00:41:37,740
just talks really in depth about
her life and her marriage with 

718
00:41:37,740 --> 00:41:41,080
Brad. 
It's a very long special and I 

719
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,040
think big part of it is because 
Friends is ending soon. 

720
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,360
So there's just like a lot of 
buzz. 

721
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,160
I bet Jen's like managers and 
agent like agents. 

722
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,000
Like it does seem like they were
doing like everything possible. 

723
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,880
It's like make the world kind of
obsessed with Jennifer Aniston 

724
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,960
and she was just this big star 
and I think it's like a 60 

725
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,480
Minutes interview or something 
like that. 

726
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,920
Like it's a big interview. 
It feels very serious and. 

727
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:11,430
She talks about their big house 
and says that even though they 

728
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:14,550
have more rooms in their new 
house, they're still always in 

729
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:18,470
the same room. 
And Diane? 

730
00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:22,950
Diane asks who is more jealous 
and Jen says I think jealousy is

731
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:26,270
healthy to a point, but no, 
we've worked on that one. 

732
00:42:26,350 --> 00:42:29,670
We've knocked that one out, but 
no. 

733
00:42:30,350 --> 00:42:32,870
I feel like Jen's like speaking 
patterns sometimes. 

734
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:34,830
They're like she never really 
uses like. 

735
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,560
Verbal clutter, the way I'm 
using, you know, like, yeah, in 

736
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,080
a way she sometimes feels like 
she's acting when she's giving 

737
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,360
an interview. 
Well, that's what I felt in that

738
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,840
first. 
Diane saw her interview. 

739
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,280
That's why it kind of freaked me
out. 

740
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,520
It seemed like she was acting. 
Yes. 

741
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,720
No, that's like, like, I often 
feel that way. 

742
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:55,200
And I that makes me wonder, 
like, is she being genuine? 

743
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,680
Or maybe her acting is very true
to her, how she is in real life,

744
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,800
I don't know. 
It's like she feels like her 

745
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,890
characters, maybe. 
So I'm going to show you more of

746
00:43:07,890 --> 00:43:10,570
that. 
So Diane asks about the Brad 

747
00:43:10,570 --> 00:43:14,730
quote in the W magazine, saying 
that she was unsure if he was 

748
00:43:14,730 --> 00:43:17,970
the love of her life. 
And I'll play that. 

749
00:43:18,530 --> 00:43:21,330
Or you can play. 
It's at 2102. 

750
00:43:21,970 --> 00:43:25,410
It's very interesting because at
one point somebody asked you 

751
00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:31,570
recently, I think W magazine, if
he was the love of your life and

752
00:43:31,570 --> 00:43:35,280
you're hesitated. 
No, I didn't hesitate. 

753
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,120
That was something that I hated 
reading. 

754
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:43,680
I can't imagine being with any 
other human being. 

755
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,200
I married him because he was the
love of my life. 

756
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:49,320
And you know, he's the most fun 
I've ever had. 

757
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,200
So when these things are written
in magazines and taken out of 

758
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,160
context and it's so frustrating 
because people then take it and 

759
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,000
run with it. 
Or if you don't, God forbid, 

760
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,540
think I'm at a. 
An award ceremony. 

761
00:44:01,540 --> 00:44:04,060
I mean Jesus. 
We were divorced and moving into

762
00:44:04,180 --> 00:44:07,460
different homes. 
Yeah, the way she's talking, 

763
00:44:07,740 --> 00:44:12,220
maybe it's not her fault, maybe 
Diane Sawyer is creating this 

764
00:44:12,220 --> 00:44:15,460
atmosphere, but it just feels 
really dramatic. 

765
00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:19,020
Yeah, it is interesting that 
she's like, oh, I hated that. 

766
00:44:19,020 --> 00:44:20,900
Like he is the love of my life. 
Like they took it out of 

767
00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:22,580
context. 
But that's the quote. 

768
00:44:22,580 --> 00:44:26,380
Like, I don't know, like you did
say is he the love of my life? 

769
00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:30,700
Maybe we have to hear how it was
phrased, but I love that this 

770
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:33,380
this really reminds me Charles. 
I love this, bringing his way 

771
00:44:33,420 --> 00:44:37,820
back to that, because I think he
did the same thing like damage 

772
00:44:37,860 --> 00:44:43,180
control kind. 
Of yeah, it does suck when you 

773
00:44:43,180 --> 00:44:45,380
say something, but people 
interpret it wrong. 

774
00:44:46,420 --> 00:44:49,540
Yeah, and it does. 
It is hard to explain what you 

775
00:44:49,540 --> 00:44:52,420
meant. 
Sometimes happens even on the 

776
00:44:52,420 --> 00:44:54,620
podcast. 
So Oh yeah. 

777
00:44:56,180 --> 00:44:58,540
Oh yeah, yeah. 
Anything I said. 

778
00:44:58,740 --> 00:45:00,140
Upsets anybody. 
I didn't mean it. 

779
00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:06,940
Yeah, yeah. 
So in the same interview, she 

780
00:45:06,940 --> 00:45:10,540
talks about how Friends is 
ending soon and she says pretty 

781
00:45:10,540 --> 00:45:13,340
adamantly that they would like 
to start having kids soon. 

782
00:45:14,180 --> 00:45:15,540
And that's in a lot of 
interviews. 

783
00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:18,940
Like it's and it's a theme kind 
of that Brad says he wants to 

784
00:45:18,940 --> 00:45:22,260
have a lot of kids and she says 
like, oh like you know, two or 

785
00:45:22,260 --> 00:45:24,500
three. 
Like it's like a kind of a 

786
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:27,160
running. 
Gag that like they're fighting 

787
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,760
about, like how many kids they 
want. 

788
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,320
Wow. 
And the public seems like very 

789
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,960
eager. 
The public and the press are 

790
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,680
very eager and excited for like 
when they finally start having 

791
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,840
kids still. 
Yet literally still, they're 

792
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,000
hung up on it. 
And I feel like I have thoughts 

793
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,840
about that that I'll get to 
later, OK. 

794
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,200
But so it's January 23rd, and 
the last episode of Friends was 

795
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:57,490
filmed after 10 seasons. 
And friends of Jen were shocked 

796
00:45:57,490 --> 00:45:59,730
that Brad did not attend the 
final taping. 

797
00:46:00,010 --> 00:46:03,290
However, Jen defended this to 
reporters by saying that he was 

798
00:46:03,290 --> 00:46:08,610
busy working. 
But later in magazines it will 

799
00:46:08,610 --> 00:46:12,530
say stuff like, well, a star 
that big could have gotten time 

800
00:46:12,530 --> 00:46:14,770
off, you know? 
So people think that that's kind

801
00:46:14,770 --> 00:46:19,250
of like a crack in the glass, 
you know, that's what you hinted

802
00:46:19,250 --> 00:46:23,090
that last week. 
I mean, that's a pretty big. 

803
00:46:23,890 --> 00:46:27,410
Moment in Jen's life and I think
she was pretty like bereaved 

804
00:46:27,410 --> 00:46:31,570
about the end of this TV show. 
Like I mean it was her whole 

805
00:46:31,570 --> 00:46:36,250
life for 10 years and it's like 
a family in a way and I think it

806
00:46:36,250 --> 00:46:39,290
would came with a lot of 
emotions. 

807
00:46:40,850 --> 00:46:47,410
I actually saw a keychain that 
said friends 994 to 2004 on my 

808
00:46:47,410 --> 00:46:49,650
backpack. 
Yeah, I mean, I'm just like even

809
00:46:50,530 --> 00:46:53,000
even thinking about like. 
Yeah, you used to dance growing 

810
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,040
up. 
Like, when that ended, like it 

811
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,920
did feel like a death in a way. 
Like, I'm sure that was like, 

812
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,800
hugely significant. 
So she's interviewed by the 

813
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,680
Guardian and she opens up more 
about their plans to have kids 

814
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,040
soon. 
She says it's time. 

815
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,320
It's time. 
You know, I think you can work 

816
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,600
with a baby. 
I think you can work pregnant. 

817
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,440
I think you can do all of it. 
So I'm just truly looking 

818
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,520
forward to slowing down. 
And she also reveals that there.

819
00:47:15,870 --> 00:47:18,670
They just had finished 
renovating their multimillion 

820
00:47:18,670 --> 00:47:21,070
dollar mansion. 
Someone to talk about this 

821
00:47:21,110 --> 00:47:23,590
house? 
I know, literally it's like in 

822
00:47:23,590 --> 00:47:27,590
every single magazine, but it's 
like the thing like their 

823
00:47:27,590 --> 00:47:31,030
divorce was so public. 
But I do think a lot of that 

824
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:33,550
they inadvertently brought on 
themselves by making their 

825
00:47:33,550 --> 00:47:38,310
relationship so public, which 
maybe is why couples are a lot 

826
00:47:38,310 --> 00:47:41,470
more private now. 
Like they're talking to us about

827
00:47:41,470 --> 00:47:43,950
like having kids. 
And I think that makes. 

828
00:47:44,420 --> 00:47:47,860
People at home feel so invested 
in their lives, like almost the 

829
00:47:47,860 --> 00:47:52,820
way an aunt or uncle is like in 
a niece and nephew's life. 

830
00:47:52,820 --> 00:47:54,940
Like they're just like, when are
you having kids? 

831
00:47:55,700 --> 00:48:00,220
When are you going to do this? 
And, like, people care way too 

832
00:48:00,260 --> 00:48:02,900
much, but it's because they kind
of play into it. 

833
00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:06,380
So then when they break up, 
like, it's just going to be a 

834
00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:08,940
lot more devastating for people 
because they felt like they were

835
00:48:08,940 --> 00:48:11,660
invested in it, you know? 
True. 

836
00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:14,540
It does seem so shocking that 
they would break up because it's

837
00:48:14,540 --> 00:48:17,300
like you were just talking about
a family, like what happened? 

838
00:48:17,300 --> 00:48:20,220
You know, what happened? 
What? 

839
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:27,740
Well, so the story goes, it's 
May, and the filming of Mr. and 

840
00:48:27,740 --> 00:48:34,700
Mrs. Smith begins in California.
You guys know the stars Brad 

841
00:48:34,700 --> 00:48:38,580
Pitt and Angelina Jolie, and 
this is a sexy film. 

842
00:48:39,330 --> 00:48:42,610
Sexy spy film. 
I've never actually seen it, but

843
00:48:42,610 --> 00:48:46,130
it looks like they have a lot of
good chemistry. 

844
00:48:46,410 --> 00:48:48,530
They do. 
I watched it last year with 

845
00:48:48,610 --> 00:48:53,930
Charlie and it's it's a fun 
movie and they have a lot of 

846
00:48:53,930 --> 00:48:57,090
chemistry. 
It's palpable. 

847
00:48:58,210 --> 00:49:03,330
It's very. 
Sexy energy don't lie, right? 

848
00:49:04,250 --> 00:49:08,010
And at this time, Angelina is 
recently separated from her 

849
00:49:08,050 --> 00:49:12,890
husband Billy Bob Thornton, and 
there's growing rumors of 

850
00:49:13,090 --> 00:49:17,410
intimacy between the two stars, 
and it's become a hot topic in a

851
00:49:17,410 --> 00:49:21,330
lot of the tabloids. 
It's just a rumor, but it's 

852
00:49:21,330 --> 00:49:23,490
picking up steam in the press, I
would say. 

853
00:49:24,330 --> 00:49:28,170
However, the affair seems to be 
disputed when Brad and Jen walk 

854
00:49:28,170 --> 00:49:31,730
the red carpet at the Troy 
premiere in New York City. 

855
00:49:31,930 --> 00:49:34,020
So. 
By all accounts, it seems like 

856
00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:35,820
they're still doing well. 
They're still making public 

857
00:49:35,820 --> 00:49:39,700
appearances together. 
And then the last episode of 

858
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:43,460
Friends comes out on May 6th, 
which was very difficult for 

859
00:49:43,460 --> 00:49:46,660
Jen. 
And then later on, her real life

860
00:49:46,660 --> 00:49:50,780
friends will tell the press that
she had hoped to lean on Brad 

861
00:49:51,020 --> 00:49:54,460
for support during this time, 
but that he was growing more and

862
00:49:54,460 --> 00:49:57,660
more emotionally absent. 
No. 

863
00:50:01,020 --> 00:50:04,730
Why? 
He was busy filming Mr. and Mrs.

864
00:50:04,730 --> 00:50:08,970
Smith. 
So then it's June and Brad is 

865
00:50:08,970 --> 00:50:11,970
profiled by Vanity Fair. 
And in this article he talks 

866
00:50:11,970 --> 00:50:15,010
about how there's a lot of hard 
edges and their new Beverly 

867
00:50:15,010 --> 00:50:16,730
Hills mansion. 
Well, they've lived there for 

868
00:50:16,730 --> 00:50:21,090
three years, but this mansion 
keeps coming up and that Jen has

869
00:50:21,090 --> 00:50:24,170
been making a lot of nervous 
comments about having to baby 

870
00:50:24,170 --> 00:50:28,130
proof the house. 
And to that he shrugs and says, 

871
00:50:28,130 --> 00:50:30,610
I have a different theory. 
You got to fall down. 

872
00:50:30,610 --> 00:50:33,540
You got to learn. 
And he says that he'd consider 

873
00:50:33,540 --> 00:50:36,660
moving again. 
And the interviewer picks up on 

874
00:50:36,660 --> 00:50:40,860
some apparent restlessness that 
he has that like, especially 

875
00:50:40,860 --> 00:50:44,500
like with the house, like now 
that like they finished, he kind

876
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:48,020
of doesn't even really want to, 
like live there, you know, man. 

877
00:50:48,060 --> 00:50:51,340
The interviewer prize further 
about their plans to have kids 

878
00:50:51,380 --> 00:50:54,380
and he says. 
It will happen when it happens. 

879
00:50:54,380 --> 00:50:57,340
I've got friends with kids and 
I've got nieces and nephews and 

880
00:50:57,340 --> 00:51:01,100
they just bring out a joy, a joy
I've gotten from few things. 

881
00:51:01,140 --> 00:51:05,740
I am selfish so I worry about 
having to give up my time, but I

882
00:51:05,740 --> 00:51:08,860
got to go see what it's about. 
I think I've got a lot of stuff 

883
00:51:08,860 --> 00:51:11,780
to tell them and the idea of 
being responsible and setting 

884
00:51:11,780 --> 00:51:14,460
someone loose in the world 
sounds really fulfilling. 

885
00:51:15,140 --> 00:51:18,740
And he says when asked about how
many kids he wants, he says I'll

886
00:51:18,740 --> 00:51:22,410
go till someone says to stop. 
I would love all girls. 

887
00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:23,970
Guys. 
I know they're going to be 

888
00:51:23,970 --> 00:51:26,530
pissed off at me. 
I know I'll fuck them up 

889
00:51:26,530 --> 00:51:33,130
somehow. 
And in this article, he opens up

890
00:51:33,130 --> 00:51:36,690
about how in the past he 
seemingly suffered from what he 

891
00:51:36,690 --> 00:51:40,810
calls a congenital sadness, 
especially in his earlier 

892
00:51:40,810 --> 00:51:44,410
relationships, but that he's 
better at keeping it in check. 

893
00:51:46,190 --> 00:51:47,870
It is interesting. 
I feel like that kind of goes 

894
00:51:47,870 --> 00:51:49,270
with, like, the restlessness in 
a way. 

895
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:52,350
Like he's always trying to fill 
some void in his life. 

896
00:51:53,230 --> 00:51:57,190
Yeah, I'm puzzled. 
I'm just puzzled about what's 

897
00:51:57,190 --> 00:52:00,630
going on. 
I know, And about Jen, he says. 

898
00:52:00,870 --> 00:52:05,230
Her emphasis is the home, 
friends and family we all kind 

899
00:52:05,230 --> 00:52:07,830
of crowd around her like Moss to
the flame. 

900
00:52:08,220 --> 00:52:10,940
She's like a magnet. 
She brings a lot of people 

901
00:52:10,940 --> 00:52:14,740
together that way. 
Jen's fireplace, she provides 

902
00:52:14,740 --> 00:52:16,380
the warmth. 
That's nice. 

903
00:52:16,940 --> 00:52:19,260
Yeah, that's a really sweet 
thing to say. 

904
00:52:19,260 --> 00:52:22,700
It does seem like he does have a
lot of love and admiration for 

905
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:27,060
her and he's asked how they feel
about the media attention on 

906
00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:29,840
them as a couple and he says. 
Neither of us wants to be the 

907
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,200
spokesperson for a happy 
marriage. 

908
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,200
For a couple of them, I'll tell 
you what I despise. 

909
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,080
This too becomes one thing where
you lose your individuality. 

910
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,680
We don't cage each other with 
this pressure of happily ever 

911
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,680
after. 
You figure it out as you go 

912
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,400
along. 
We feel it out rather than 

913
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,960
setting policies and rules. 
Jen and I always made a pact 

914
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,560
that will see where this is 
going. 

915
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:54,750
I'm not sure it really is in our
nature to be with someone for 

916
00:52:54,750 --> 00:52:57,350
the rest of our lives just 
because you made that pact. 

917
00:52:57,630 --> 00:53:00,150
You keep going as long as you 
keep growing. 

918
00:53:00,470 --> 00:53:04,310
When that dies, we do. 
But it constantly surprises me 

919
00:53:04,590 --> 00:53:06,110
just when you think we've 
gotten. 

920
00:53:06,570 --> 00:53:09,130
All you can get out of it, you 
get knocked upside down the 

921
00:53:09,130 --> 00:53:10,370
head. 
It's good fun. 

922
00:53:10,570 --> 00:53:13,090
We still have that friendship. 
We still have a good laugh, 

923
00:53:13,250 --> 00:53:16,170
which can go in and out 
depending on the dynamics and 

924
00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:19,370
outside influences. 
It's complicated, but that's 

925
00:53:19,370 --> 00:53:22,690
what keeps it interesting. 
We're good at getting shit on 

926
00:53:22,690 --> 00:53:24,850
the table. 
Then she tells other people, and

927
00:53:24,850 --> 00:53:28,890
I get mad. 
What? 

928
00:53:29,410 --> 00:53:34,560
A lot to break down there kind 
of goes. 

929
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,720
Against what we were saying 
earlier about like why we think 

930
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:44,160
marriage is kind of romantic. 
Like it's it is odd for me to 

931
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,760
hear someone say, like we'll see
where this goes. 

932
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,920
Like I don't think most normal 
people when they get married 

933
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,640
have a like, let's see where 
this goes. 

934
00:53:54,920 --> 00:54:00,420
Like he said. 
Did he say we're both people 

935
00:54:00,420 --> 00:54:03,020
that wouldn't be with someone 
for the rest of their lives? 

936
00:54:03,220 --> 00:54:05,620
I don't know if it's in our 
nature to be with someone, so I 

937
00:54:05,620 --> 00:54:09,180
don't know if he's talking about
them as two people or humans, 

938
00:54:09,220 --> 00:54:13,300
humans in general. 
Still, still, I would not want 

939
00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:16,940
to hear my husband say that, No.
Yeah. 

940
00:54:17,180 --> 00:54:18,980
Publicly. 
Oh, you know, we're just having 

941
00:54:18,980 --> 00:54:22,380
fun and seeing where it goes. 
Yeah, I don't know if humans are

942
00:54:22,380 --> 00:54:26,260
meant to be 1. 
Person, excuse me, I mean, in 

943
00:54:26,260 --> 00:54:30,340
just knowing what we know now 
that like at this time his 

944
00:54:30,340 --> 00:54:35,860
attraction for Angelina Jolie 
was probably a huge taking up a 

945
00:54:35,860 --> 00:54:39,500
huge piece of his mind. 
That is very interesting that 

946
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:42,420
it's almost like he has one foot
out the door, you know, and is 

947
00:54:42,420 --> 00:54:46,420
contemplating. 
He's trying to explain it away, 

948
00:54:46,420 --> 00:54:48,740
saying like, well, I don't know 
if people are even supposed to. 

949
00:54:49,340 --> 00:54:53,100
And it's like. 
Because he thinks what he's 

950
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:55,860
saying is, like, so romantic in 
a way. 

951
00:54:55,860 --> 00:54:58,140
He's like, we have a pact. 
Like we have a mutual 

952
00:54:58,180 --> 00:55:00,780
understanding for each other 
that like, we're just gonna keep

953
00:55:00,780 --> 00:55:03,140
going until we can't go any 
further. 

954
00:55:03,220 --> 00:55:06,340
Really. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

955
00:55:07,180 --> 00:55:10,740
I mean, to each their own. 
But and the way he even says, 

956
00:55:10,740 --> 00:55:15,060
like, outside influences, Yeah, 
I guess that could be the press.

957
00:55:15,060 --> 00:55:19,410
But also another woman. 
If I was Jennifer's friends 

958
00:55:19,410 --> 00:55:22,210
right now, I'd be freaking out. 
Me too. 

959
00:55:23,690 --> 00:55:25,850
This is not good. 
Like, I don't. 

960
00:55:25,850 --> 00:55:32,570
Doesn't sound good. 
No, I guess like, I mean, it's 

961
00:55:32,570 --> 00:55:35,850
good to not see marriage like a 
end all be all if it's very 

962
00:55:35,850 --> 00:55:41,730
unhappy and miserable. 
But it's a bad sign when they're

963
00:55:41,730 --> 00:55:44,520
saying like, yeah. 
You know, this might not be it 

964
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:49,560
for everything, but but he does 
end this interview by saying 

965
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,440
that he's happier than he's ever
been. 

966
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:54,800
OK, but is that because of her? 
I know. 

967
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:01,040
Or because of Angelina. 
That's so true to the outside 

968
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,840
world, though you would think 
it's because of Jen. 

969
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,320
A couple weeks later he went on 
the Oprah show and he's asked 

970
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,400
about this article and we have a
clip. 

971
00:56:09,210 --> 00:56:10,690
This is the home. 
This is a quote, you say. 

972
00:56:10,690 --> 00:56:14,170
Friends and family, we all 
crawled around her like moths to

973
00:56:14,170 --> 00:56:16,290
the flame. 
Yeah, she's she's very. 

974
00:56:16,450 --> 00:56:18,410
She's one of the warmest people 
I meet and we all. 

975
00:56:18,650 --> 00:56:21,090
You say she's the magnet. 
We do all crowd around her. 

976
00:56:21,090 --> 00:56:23,930
She's like that, that fire. 
We all crowd around for warmth 

977
00:56:23,970 --> 00:56:27,730
and she's no, I'm not this is 
this is genuine. 

978
00:56:27,730 --> 00:56:30,610
It's truly genuine. 
She's there's not a ill 

979
00:56:30,610 --> 00:56:32,530
intentioned bone in this woman's
body. 

980
00:56:32,530 --> 00:56:35,250
She's really, she's really 
extraordinary that way and she's

981
00:56:35,450 --> 00:56:38,620
taught me a lot that way. 
She brings people together. 

982
00:56:38,780 --> 00:56:40,340
I just saw the other day at the 
Bel Air Hotel. 

983
00:56:40,340 --> 00:56:43,500
We're talking about, you know, 
friends, the same thing and all 

984
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:44,500
that. 
Okay. 

985
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:46,220
So let's roll just a little bit 
of that. 

986
00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:48,140
You know, your husband's going 
to be on. 

987
00:56:48,140 --> 00:56:49,380
I have to interview him next 
week. 

988
00:56:49,380 --> 00:56:52,660
Did You Know? 
That I'm so jealous I can't be 

989
00:56:52,660 --> 00:56:55,700
in Chicago and be there. 
So what should I ask him? 

990
00:56:56,340 --> 00:56:59,260
Oh. 
Anything you possibly can. 

991
00:56:59,300 --> 00:57:03,020
Have you seen the movie? 
I have and it's fantastic. 

992
00:57:03,300 --> 00:57:06,300
It's exquisite, It's epic. 
It's huge. 

993
00:57:07,170 --> 00:57:09,810
And he's a badass. 
You you look at the camera and 

994
00:57:09,810 --> 00:57:12,170
say something to him for me you 
want to say because we're going 

995
00:57:12,170 --> 00:57:14,130
to air this when he's on. 
Oh, you are, Yeah. 

996
00:57:14,210 --> 00:57:15,970
Where's which camera? 
That one right there. 

997
00:57:17,170 --> 00:57:18,050
Hi baby. 
I love you. 

998
00:57:21,770 --> 00:57:24,730
I feel you wouldn't suspect if 
you're just like an outside 

999
00:57:24,730 --> 00:57:26,930
person who's really invested in 
this couple. 

1000
00:57:26,930 --> 00:57:29,410
You wouldn't answer. 
Yeah, you would think that 

1001
00:57:29,410 --> 00:57:32,050
they're more in love than ever. 
You know you would. 

1002
00:57:32,250 --> 00:57:36,290
Especially because they're on 
something like the Oprah show, 

1003
00:57:36,290 --> 00:57:39,240
like. 
You know, people stay at home 

1004
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,960
moms and stuff, they're home. 
They're like they have that on 

1005
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,680
TV while they're like folding 
their laundry and watching it. 

1006
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,280
Like, I feel like especially 
like at that time, not that 

1007
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,720
daytime talk shows like aren't 
still really big, but like they 

1008
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,320
it just they felt very 
significant to me, like growing 

1009
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,240
up like even like on 1/2 day 
like they were on TV and I don't

1010
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,960
know, I feel like tabloids were 
even bigger back then and like 

1011
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,680
they were just like in your 
living room. 

1012
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,760
So do you felt like you knew 
them really well? 

1013
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,960
And they were huge celebrities. 
And so that summer, I mean, they

1014
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:16,560
still are, obviously. 
But that summer the filming of 

1015
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,520
Mr. and Mrs. Smith is further 
underway. 

1016
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:26,280
Obviously people believe that 
Angelina and Brad had an affair 

1017
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:31,280
while they were filming it, and 
they both later on had denied 

1018
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,660
this. 
And Angelina had said that she 

1019
00:58:33,660 --> 00:58:36,540
would never be attracted to a 
man who would cheat on his wife.

1020
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:42,820
And I do believe that they maybe
didn't cheat. 

1021
00:58:42,860 --> 00:58:46,020
I mean, I don't know. 
I could go either way. 

1022
00:58:46,820 --> 00:58:50,820
Where do these rumors come from?
Just people assuming something's

1023
00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:54,390
gone because they were so sexy 
in the movie. 

1024
00:58:54,550 --> 00:58:56,510
Yeah, and then like, is that the
only reason? 

1025
00:58:56,510 --> 00:58:59,190
Well, and because also he got 
together with Angelina, like 

1026
00:58:59,190 --> 00:59:03,670
right after the divorce. 
So it just seemed like obviously

1027
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:05,270
something must have been going 
on. 

1028
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:11,750
But in 2006, Angelina gave an 
interview about their 

1029
00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:15,230
relationship and she said I 
didn't know much about exactly 

1030
00:59:15,230 --> 00:59:19,110
where Brad was in his personal 
life, but it was clear he was 

1031
00:59:19,110 --> 00:59:22,030
with his best friend, someone he
loves and respects. 

1032
00:59:22,340 --> 00:59:24,740
And so we were both loving, I 
suppose. 

1033
00:59:25,300 --> 00:59:28,100
We were both living, I suppose, 
very full lives. 

1034
00:59:28,420 --> 00:59:31,100
I think we were the last two 
people who were looking for a 

1035
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:33,900
relationship. 
Like, no shit, Obviously if 

1036
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:36,620
you're married, you're not 
looking for a relationship. 

1037
00:59:38,620 --> 00:59:41,460
Yeah, but she said I certainly 
wasn't. 

1038
00:59:41,780 --> 00:59:44,100
I was quite content to be a 
single mom. 

1039
00:59:44,260 --> 00:59:48,460
Brad was a huge surprise to me. 
I, like most people, had a very 

1040
00:59:48,460 --> 00:59:51,020
distant impression of him from 
the media. 

1041
00:59:52,030 --> 00:59:54,910
And she said because of the 
film, we ended up being brought 

1042
00:59:54,910 --> 00:59:56,990
together to do all these crazy 
things. 

1043
00:59:56,990 --> 00:59:59,390
And I think we found this 
strange friendship and 

1044
00:59:59,390 --> 01:00:02,350
partnership that kind of just 
suddenly happened. 

1045
01:00:02,550 --> 01:00:06,070
I think a few months in I 
realized, God, I can't wait to 

1046
01:00:06,070 --> 01:00:08,390
get to work. 
Anything we had to do with each 

1047
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:12,110
other, we just found a lot of 
joy in it together and a lot of 

1048
01:00:12,190 --> 01:00:15,230
real teamwork. 
We just became kind of a pair. 

1049
01:00:15,230 --> 01:00:18,310
It took until really the end of 
the shoot for us, I think, to 

1050
01:00:18,310 --> 01:00:21,910
realize that it might mean 
something more than we'd earlier

1051
01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:25,110
allowed ourselves to believe, 
and both knowing that the 

1052
01:00:25,110 --> 01:00:28,430
reality of that was a big thing,
something that was going to take

1053
01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:36,510
a lot of serious consideration. 
Which I believe, like I do think

1054
01:00:36,510 --> 01:00:40,830
like if they were very attracted
to each other but then also had 

1055
01:00:40,830 --> 01:00:45,160
to be intimate for their job. 
Like you literally do have to do

1056
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,040
like sex scenes with this 
person. 

1057
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:52,080
It would be very hard to like 
resist your desires because like

1058
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,080
it's not like you can be like, 
you know what, I'm married. 

1059
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:59,640
I need distance from this person
because it's your job, you know.

1060
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,880
That is crazy. 
Wow. 

1061
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,440
Like I think in real life 
someone might be able to. 

1062
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,800
They might be tempted by other 
people or feel attracted to 

1063
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,200
people, but they're able to 
create more clear boundaries in 

1064
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,960
order to protect their 
relationship. 

1065
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,040
But like, if you're filming a 
movie with someone where you do 

1066
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:26,920
need to have chemistry, it's 
almost like it would be bad for 

1067
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:31,080
your job to, like, not continue 
to, like, explore it. 

1068
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,520
That's wild. 
So I feel kind of like, you 

1069
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,680
know, people obviously hate 
Angelina, and I feel like maybe 

1070
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,680
we should get more into that in 
the next episode. 

1071
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,630
But I kind of understand it. 
Like, it does seem like they 

1072
01:01:43,630 --> 01:01:46,510
weren't trying to fall in love, 
but they just happened to and 

1073
01:01:46,510 --> 01:01:48,150
like, what are you supposed to 
do? 

1074
01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:52,270
Kind of. 
Yeah, I wonder if him and 

1075
01:01:52,270 --> 01:01:56,790
Jennifer's relationship was 
breaking down already in some 

1076
01:01:56,790 --> 01:02:01,190
ways, because I don't know. 
I do think even though he maybe 

1077
01:02:01,190 --> 01:02:03,230
was attracted to her, and yes, 
they have to. 

1078
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:06,540
Make out and pretend to have sex
and stuff like that. 

1079
01:02:06,620 --> 01:02:08,980
When the movie ended, I feel 
like you should have still been 

1080
01:02:08,980 --> 01:02:14,140
able to walk away, yeah? 
But, and I don't think he did, 

1081
01:02:14,140 --> 01:02:17,100
they did remain really good 
friends while taking a lot of 

1082
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:20,540
time to deeply consider and 
contemplate what they should do 

1083
01:02:20,540 --> 01:02:23,540
with their connections. 
Like at that point, it kind of 

1084
01:02:23,540 --> 01:02:25,860
is an at least an emotional 
affair. 

1085
01:02:25,860 --> 01:02:29,060
If you're like talking with the 
other person about potentially 

1086
01:02:29,060 --> 01:02:32,620
leaving your wife for her, like,
yeah, that is kind of cheating. 

1087
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,800
That is emotionally cheating. 
I know some people debate like 

1088
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,600
if that's really cheating or 
whatever, but I don't know. 

1089
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,240
If that is a type, I think it is
that it is. 

1090
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:48,080
But I do think like it's it's I 
think would be traumatizing to 

1091
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,920
experience as being on the 
receiving end is Jennifer 

1092
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,040
Aniston. 
But I guess at some point, some 

1093
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,160
people do have to experience 
that. 

1094
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,440
Like, you really did feel like 
you loved somebody else even 

1095
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,660
though you were married. 
Like, you do have to consider 

1096
01:03:04,660 --> 01:03:06,340
it. 
Maybe if you feel like, oh, 

1097
01:03:06,340 --> 01:03:08,020
shoot, am I with the right 
person? 

1098
01:03:08,140 --> 01:03:14,660
I don't know. 
I feel like it's romantic to 

1099
01:03:14,660 --> 01:03:16,380
call your partner, like your 
best friend. 

1100
01:03:16,380 --> 01:03:20,500
But it does appear to me like 
maybe with Jennifer and Brad. 

1101
01:03:20,620 --> 01:03:24,590
Obviously this is speculation, 
but like, they're very heavy on 

1102
01:03:24,590 --> 01:03:26,870
the friendship thing at this 
point in their marriage. 

1103
01:03:26,870 --> 01:03:29,350
Publicly. 
That, yeah, makes you wonder if,

1104
01:03:29,350 --> 01:03:32,750
like, it feels more like a 
friendship than a relationship. 

1105
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:38,430
It that's what I was thinking. 
It was odd to me, hearing that 

1106
01:03:38,430 --> 01:03:44,230
phrase a couple times, like 
maybe that the excitement of, 

1107
01:03:45,150 --> 01:03:49,350
you know, a new relationship had
worn off, obviously. 

1108
01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:53,090
And so, like, everything with 
Angelina was just more 

1109
01:03:53,090 --> 01:03:55,770
thrilling. 
But you can't chase that 

1110
01:03:55,770 --> 01:03:58,210
forever. 
No, it's going to wear off with 

1111
01:03:58,290 --> 01:04:00,290
any everybody. 
Yeah. 

1112
01:04:00,290 --> 01:04:03,130
And I feel like a mature person 
probably knows that when they 

1113
01:04:03,130 --> 01:04:06,970
get married. 
But do people stay hungry for 

1114
01:04:06,970 --> 01:04:08,090
that? 
I don't know. 

1115
01:04:08,090 --> 01:04:14,490
It's kind of scary. 
I think you just have to realize

1116
01:04:14,490 --> 01:04:17,850
that it's just a distraction in 
a way. 

1117
01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:21,820
Well, that goes. 
That goes with his restlessness.

1118
01:04:22,300 --> 01:04:25,540
Yes, Yeah. 
I don't think he's someone who 

1119
01:04:25,540 --> 01:04:28,620
might be content with just like 
a peaceful marriage. 

1120
01:04:28,620 --> 01:04:32,340
So then what Mel? 
So again, still to the public, 

1121
01:04:32,340 --> 01:04:34,620
it seems like Brad and Jenn are 
still going strong. 

1122
01:04:34,620 --> 01:04:38,900
They walk the red carpet once 
again at the Emmys that year and

1123
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:43,860
OK, then it's December 27th and 
Brad and Jen leave for a two 

1124
01:04:43,860 --> 01:04:49,680
week getaway to Ann Gilla for a 
New Year's Eve with Courtney Cox

1125
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:55,120
and David Arquette like a 
vacation and paparazzi snaps 

1126
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,680
photos of them on the trip 
together and they look very in 

1127
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,720
love. 
And on this trip he's wearing a 

1128
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,760
tshirt on the beach that says 
trash. 

1129
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,960
And I don't really know like if 
that. 

1130
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,160
Has anything? 
Yeah, just like trash on his 

1131
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,920
tshirt. 
And but there's a photo of them 

1132
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,190
kissing on the beach, and 
sources on the island say that 

1133
01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:16,830
they seem very in love. 
And one restaurant owner told Us

1134
01:05:16,830 --> 01:05:20,110
Weekly that they were all over 
each other like a rash. 

1135
01:05:20,430 --> 01:05:23,190
They had their paws all over 
each other. 

1136
01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:28,470
And on New Year's Eve, witnesses
said that his arm was around her

1137
01:05:28,510 --> 01:05:33,990
the entire night. 
And then it's, you know, New 

1138
01:05:33,990 --> 01:05:36,630
Year's Eve. 
It's January, it's now 2005, 

1139
01:05:36,630 --> 01:05:41,540
it's a new year, and on the last
full day of their vacation, the 

1140
01:05:41,540 --> 01:05:45,300
couple release a joint statement
to People magazine. 

1141
01:05:46,380 --> 01:05:49,620
They say we would like to 
announce that after seven years 

1142
01:05:49,620 --> 01:05:53,100
together, we have decided to 
formally separate. 

1143
01:05:53,860 --> 01:05:56,140
What the hell? 
They're still on vacation. 

1144
01:05:56,620 --> 01:05:59,780
For those who follow these sort 
of things, we would like to 

1145
01:05:59,860 --> 01:06:03,980
explain that our separation is 
not the result of any of the 

1146
01:06:03,980 --> 01:06:06,860
speculation reported by the 
tabloid media. 

1147
01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:10,780
This decision is the result of 
much thoughtful consideration. 

1148
01:06:11,130 --> 01:06:15,330
We happily remain committed and 
caring friends with great love 

1149
01:06:15,330 --> 01:06:18,970
and admiration for one another. 
We ask in advance for your 

1150
01:06:18,970 --> 01:06:22,170
kindness and sensitivity in the 
coming months. 

1151
01:06:23,210 --> 01:06:25,010
I don't understand how this is 
possible. 

1152
01:06:25,130 --> 01:06:29,330
I know, and on the flight back 
to California, both Jen and Brad

1153
01:06:29,330 --> 01:06:32,850
are still wearing their wedding 
rings, and an editor for Us 

1154
01:06:32,850 --> 01:06:36,530
Weekly, Janice Min, says that 
the couple took this vacation 

1155
01:06:36,970 --> 01:06:39,930
knowing it was going to be the 
end of their marriage. 

1156
01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:45,990
One that's freaky. 
I have to ask you guys, if you 

1157
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:51,310
know that a breakup is imminent,
is it a good idea to end it with

1158
01:06:51,310 --> 01:06:55,510
like one last hurrah? 
Like one last romantic guy I. 

1159
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:57,510
Could not. 
I couldn't. 

1160
01:06:58,190 --> 01:07:02,190
I mean, maybe if I'm the one 
that decided it, but if I'm the 

1161
01:07:02,190 --> 01:07:07,270
one being dumped, no, you're 
fucking way you're smelling. 

1162
01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:15,520
Get your cake and eat it too. 
And no, but also I I don't know,

1163
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,600
I did go on like this weekend 
trip where I feel like I'd, you 

1164
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:22,240
know, bleep um, where I knew 
that the relationship was like 

1165
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,080
ending. 
It was pretty obvious, but like,

1166
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,080
it was horrible. 
Yeah, I feel like you were like,

1167
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,440
I don't want to be here. 
It was absolutely awful, the 

1168
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,160
worst trip I've ever been on in 
my life. 

1169
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,080
So I don't understand. 
I mean, I guess they're just 

1170
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,190
really chill. 
Or I don't know. 

1171
01:07:38,190 --> 01:07:40,710
I don't understand how they were
like all over each other and 

1172
01:07:40,710 --> 01:07:43,590
just having a good time. 
Supposedly it's like they were 

1173
01:07:43,590 --> 01:07:46,550
like in the pictures in denial. 
I feel like sometimes people 

1174
01:07:46,550 --> 01:07:50,310
maybe do that with like they 
have sex like one last time but 

1175
01:07:50,790 --> 01:07:52,750
like, but that's like stupid 
like I. 

1176
01:07:52,750 --> 01:07:55,430
Didn't think I could do that. 
That's going to make it only. 

1177
01:07:55,430 --> 01:07:59,310
If it was only, if only. 
See, it's like kind of 

1178
01:07:59,310 --> 01:08:01,430
narcissistic, I think. 
But like only if it was my 

1179
01:08:01,430 --> 01:08:03,550
decision. 
I feel like could enjoy that, 

1180
01:08:03,550 --> 01:08:06,230
but like if if I'm the one who 
didn't initiate. 

1181
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,600
The divorce or the breakup, like
that would just be tragic. 

1182
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,160
Well, here, you know what I 
think? 

1183
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,720
I think for the person who 
decided it, it's selfish because

1184
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,479
it's like, Oh yeah, Like, it's 
almost like when you take your, 

1185
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,640
like, you know you're going to 
put your dog down. 

1186
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,319
And so you give them like one 
last day where they get to eat 

1187
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:26,680
like a McDonald's cheeseburger 
or something. 

1188
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,640
Like that's what it's reminding 
me of. 

1189
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,880
But, like, I feel like for the 
person who's getting broken up 

1190
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:36,170
with, I wonder if for them, they
almost think it's like one last 

1191
01:08:36,170 --> 01:08:39,450
chance to, like, convince the 
person like what they're going 

1192
01:08:39,450 --> 01:08:43,010
to be missing. 
You know that's true, which is 

1193
01:08:43,010 --> 01:08:45,450
stupid. 
It's stupid because it's like 

1194
01:08:45,810 --> 01:08:48,290
it's the person has already 
made-up their mind. 

1195
01:08:48,490 --> 01:08:50,810
You're just making it harder for
yourself because you're 

1196
01:08:50,810 --> 01:08:53,170
reminding yourself what you're 
going to lose, you know? 

1197
01:08:55,450 --> 01:09:00,010
I mean, if anyone can pull that 
off and do it and enjoy it, like

1198
01:09:00,490 --> 01:09:06,040
all props to them, that's. 
Great, but that just seems so 

1199
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:08,240
awful. 
Seems like it's prolonging the 

1200
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,000
sadness. 
Also weird that they did it with

1201
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,880
like another couple. 
I know. 

1202
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,520
Oh my gosh. 
I wonder what Courtney Cox and 

1203
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,319
David Marquette thought. 
Yeah, like, this is awkward. 

1204
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:22,880
I wish I wasn't here because 
they must have known about it 

1205
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,800
like they probably were working 
on their statement, right? 

1206
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,520
Yeah. 
Gosh, I don't. 

1207
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,080
Know celebrities? 
So weird, I know. 

1208
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,040
Also, like, cut the crap. 
I hate those statements about, 

1209
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,439
like, we remain committed 
friends to each other. 

1210
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,920
Like, I'm sorry. 
Like, you're not going to be 

1211
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,120
committed friends to each other 
anymore. 

1212
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,600
Like, you don't have to pretend 
like this is, like, a happy 

1213
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,120
thing. 
They always do that. 

1214
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:50,439
Like, just say, like, we're 
breaking up. 

1215
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,200
Give us our privacy. 
They always act like it's for no

1216
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,240
reason to. 
I know people don't get divorced

1217
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,370
for no reason. 
No, and that doesn't make any 

1218
01:10:00,530 --> 01:10:01,810
sense. 
They always act like it's like 

1219
01:10:02,050 --> 01:10:05,410
we just mutually came to the 
decision that this was best. 

1220
01:10:05,450 --> 01:10:08,570
We lovingly decided to break up.
Like, no. 

1221
01:10:10,410 --> 01:10:13,650
There's probably a little 
animosity there if you want to 

1222
01:10:13,650 --> 01:10:18,090
break up in the first place. 
We love each other so much that 

1223
01:10:18,090 --> 01:10:20,130
we're sending each other free. 
Yeah. 

1224
01:10:20,810 --> 01:10:23,130
What? 
No. 

1225
01:10:23,570 --> 01:10:26,250
Like you would still be married 
if you loved each other that 

1226
01:10:26,250 --> 01:10:30,110
much. 
And I don't know. 

1227
01:10:30,110 --> 01:10:32,430
I just don't like that they do 
it like that. 

1228
01:10:32,430 --> 01:10:36,790
Because, yes, it probably makes 
it better for themselves. 

1229
01:10:36,830 --> 01:10:42,750
But for us normal people who 
are, like, so distraught about 

1230
01:10:42,750 --> 01:10:46,630
breakups, it's like, wait, is 
this easier for everybody else? 

1231
01:10:46,910 --> 01:10:50,630
And no, they're just pretending.
I know. 

1232
01:10:51,910 --> 01:10:54,790
I do hate that. 
I mean, yeah, I guess some 

1233
01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:57,630
people are just really chill or 
maybe they're just heartless, I 

1234
01:10:57,630 --> 01:11:00,430
don't know. 
But I do sometimes compare 

1235
01:11:00,430 --> 01:11:04,390
myself to people that are 
seemingly able to, like, be in 

1236
01:11:04,390 --> 01:11:09,270
the band with their ex or, you 
know, be best friends with their

1237
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:12,240
there's significant others, X or
whatever. 

1238
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,600
And I'm like, what the heck? 
Why aren't I able to do that? 

1239
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,880
Yeah, and it's like, is there 
just pretending. 

1240
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,520
I know, like it's there's 
something wrong with me that I 

1241
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,840
feel like I'm going to throw up 
just by the mention of their 

1242
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:28,240
name. 
Yeah, I'm sure it's a spectrum 

1243
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,960
and some people really are a lot
chiller than I am, but I have to

1244
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,320
believe that most celebrities 
are faking it. 

1245
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:37,760
Me too. 
I think they are. 

1246
01:11:38,530 --> 01:11:41,890
And of course everybody is 
shocked. 

1247
01:11:42,210 --> 01:11:45,490
I mean, this was a couple that 
seemed like they were just 

1248
01:11:45,490 --> 01:11:48,090
making out on the beach. 
Like, what happened? 

1249
01:11:48,370 --> 01:11:51,690
Yeah, and tabloids. 
Yeah, literally. 

1250
01:11:51,690 --> 01:11:55,370
And tabloids are initially 
reporting that it's because Brad

1251
01:11:55,370 --> 01:11:58,090
wanted kids, but Jen wasn't 
ready. 

1252
01:11:58,250 --> 01:12:01,970
I've heard that, but still. 
It's rumored that the real 

1253
01:12:01,970 --> 01:12:04,490
reason is, of course, Angelina 
Jolie. 

1254
01:12:05,050 --> 01:12:11,610
But Brad, who at this time makes
$200 million per movie, has a 

1255
01:12:11,610 --> 01:12:16,730
lot to lose if he goes through a
messy divorce. 

1256
01:12:16,730 --> 01:12:21,450
And I'm going to read an excerpt
from this editor Joe Dulci of 

1257
01:12:21,490 --> 01:12:25,290
Star magazine, he wrote. 
These guys careers are based on 

1258
01:12:25,290 --> 01:12:27,930
their saleability which is based
on their appeal and their 

1259
01:12:27,930 --> 01:12:32,100
attractiveness to the public and
that has to be maintained. 

1260
01:12:32,500 --> 01:12:35,700
If it came out that Brad was 
having an affair cheating on his

1261
01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:39,940
wife, there might be a couple 
years where Brad couldn't open a

1262
01:12:39,940 --> 01:12:42,260
movie depending on what that 
movie was. 

1263
01:12:42,460 --> 01:12:47,620
You know, if this main draw was,
if his main draw was women and 

1264
01:12:47,620 --> 01:12:51,060
women are angry at him for 
messing around on his wife with 

1265
01:12:51,060 --> 01:12:54,580
another beautiful, gorgeous 
Hollywood starlet, they might 

1266
01:12:54,580 --> 01:13:01,460
vote with their daughters and 
not go see the next movie, which

1267
01:13:01,460 --> 01:13:03,740
is really interesting. 
And we have to keep in mind that

1268
01:13:03,740 --> 01:13:09,620
a big star like Brad has a lot 
of pull with reporters. 

1269
01:13:09,700 --> 01:13:11,980
He has the best publicist in 
town. 

1270
01:13:11,980 --> 01:13:16,220
And so stories like that, like 
he wanted kids, but Jen wasn't 

1271
01:13:16,220 --> 01:13:18,020
ready. 
You kind of do have to question,

1272
01:13:18,020 --> 01:13:19,860
like, where are they coming 
from? 

1273
01:13:19,860 --> 01:13:24,540
Because it does seem like it's 
not a noble reason to leave your

1274
01:13:24,540 --> 01:13:28,580
wife, but like something that 
people might be more sympathetic

1275
01:13:28,580 --> 01:13:32,080
to, you know? 
Yeah, that's so true. 

1276
01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:35,920
But it's stupid. 
I feel like what you're talking 

1277
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,760
about. 
Like, I don't know, the typical 

1278
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,360
housewife at home with the 
daytime TV on or something. 

1279
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:47,040
Like she would turn against Jen 
for that reason. 

1280
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,240
Yes, that's so true. 
You know, and these are the 

1281
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,760
people that were attached to 
them because they're like on 

1282
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,120
Oprah and Diane Sawyer and 
stuff. 

1283
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:01,070
But it's so hard to believe 
because I feel like a man 

1284
01:14:01,070 --> 01:14:04,350
usually doesn't leave his wife 
because she's not ready to have 

1285
01:14:04,350 --> 01:14:06,110
kids. 
I mean, I'm sure it happens, but

1286
01:14:06,110 --> 01:14:11,390
like, they don't have that, like
time limit the way a woman does.

1287
01:14:11,390 --> 01:14:15,590
So it's not like I. 
Know I find it hard to, hard to 

1288
01:14:15,590 --> 01:14:18,950
believe, Yeah, it's not like 
he's like, I'm in a rush like. 

1289
01:14:19,710 --> 01:14:21,430
I've never heard of that 
happening. 

1290
01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:24,270
No. 
I mean, maybe since he does have

1291
01:14:24,270 --> 01:14:29,080
that restlessness, he was, like,
eager for the next step. 

1292
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:33,360
But I don't buy them. 
Maybe we're already talking 

1293
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,560
about having kids anyway, Like, 
I I just don't think that that's

1294
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:40,080
really true. 
I know, I I don't know. 

1295
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,560
I've. 
I guess I only know my own 

1296
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,000
experiences, but I've heard of 
the reverse happening and had a 

1297
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,360
sexual relationships where the 
woman wants to have a kid and 

1298
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,240
man doesn't and so she leaves 
him. 

1299
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,800
But I've never heard of the 
opposite, yeah. 

1300
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,400
Sure, it has happened. 
But. 

1301
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,680
And it's just interesting 
because, like, he leaves her for

1302
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:04,480
someone who, like, already has a
kid and is like, in the process.

1303
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:10,040
Like, Angelina at this time had 
adopted a baby boy like a year 

1304
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:14,000
before, and she's in the process
of adopting a daughter. 

1305
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:18,760
So, like, he's leaving her for 
someone who's like, very 

1306
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,720
motherly, you know? 
So now it's March, March 25th. 

1307
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,070
Jen officially files for 
divorce, and ironically, around 

1308
01:15:25,070 --> 01:15:27,550
this time it's announced that 
Jen will star in the romantic 

1309
01:15:27,550 --> 01:15:30,590
comedy The Breakup. 
And she's asked about that in an

1310
01:15:30,590 --> 01:15:33,510
interview and she says, well, 
you know, I just figured sees 

1311
01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:38,950
the moment. 
I don't think I've seen that 

1312
01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:41,390
movie, but I would like to. 
I've never finished it. 

1313
01:15:41,390 --> 01:15:44,590
I've started it like 10 times. 
I've really, it's not that it's 

1314
01:15:44,590 --> 01:15:47,550
a bad movie, it's just like for 
some reason I've never watched 

1315
01:15:47,550 --> 01:15:49,750
it all the way through. 
I see. 

1316
01:15:49,870 --> 01:15:52,150
I see I should one of these 
days. 

1317
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,560
So it's April and paparazzi 
photos come out of Brad and 

1318
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:02,360
Angelina on the beach in Kenya 
playing with her son Maddox, and

1319
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:06,920
like they just look like a happy
little family together, and one 

1320
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:11,440
of Jen's best friends from high 
school, Andrea Bennetwald, told 

1321
01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:14,240
reporters. 
It was extremely hurtful to Jen 

1322
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,200
that he was seen with another 
woman so quickly after they were

1323
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,000
separated. 
Man. 

1324
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:25,700
Which I think a lot of Jen's 
close friends seemingly talk to 

1325
01:16:25,700 --> 01:16:31,020
the press. 
And it like if her mom telling 

1326
01:16:31,020 --> 01:16:35,100
an unauthorized story, like 
selling a story, was so 

1327
01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:38,020
upsetting to her, it does kind 
of make me think that Jen kind 

1328
01:16:38,020 --> 01:16:42,660
of authorized her friends to, 
like, tell her side of the story

1329
01:16:42,660 --> 01:16:44,980
without having to do it herself,
you know? 

1330
01:16:45,180 --> 01:16:48,580
That's such a good point. 
Like they do it a lot. 

1331
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,000
And I feel like it's like her 
way of throwing him under the 

1332
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,720
bus but not coming across as 
bitter or resentful. 

1333
01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:00,400
That's her way of putting her 
feelings up there, exactly. 

1334
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:07,760
And so the public starts being 
really sympathetic. 

1335
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:11,920
For Jen, a very popular 
Hollywood boutique called Kitson

1336
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:16,680
reported that it's Team Aniston 
tshirts were out selling the 

1337
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:21,170
Team Jolie shirts 25 to 1. 
Wow. 

1338
01:17:24,170 --> 01:17:26,250
A cultural phenomenon. 
Really. 

1339
01:17:26,370 --> 01:17:27,450
Really. 
Yeah. 

1340
01:17:27,450 --> 01:17:30,770
Seriously. 
Everybody loves a love triangle.

1341
01:17:32,530 --> 01:17:36,930
It's very salacious. 
And it it sells. 

1342
01:17:38,650 --> 01:17:41,770
People love to be able to pick 
between two options. 

1343
01:17:41,770 --> 01:17:47,990
Yeah, they really do. 
And they love to be passed 

1344
01:17:48,190 --> 01:17:51,630
included. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1345
01:17:51,950 --> 01:17:56,310
So then in May, Brad broke his 
silence on the breakup to GQ. 

1346
01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:59,870
He said we've done it our way 
and I love her for that. 

1347
01:17:59,870 --> 01:18:02,030
We've kept the love we have for 
each other. 

1348
01:18:02,350 --> 01:18:04,910
It's talked about like it 
failed, I guess because it 

1349
01:18:04,910 --> 01:18:08,310
wasn't flawless. 
Me, I embrace the messiness of 

1350
01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:09,990
life. 
I find it so beautiful. 

1351
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:13,190
Actually, the idea that marriage
has to be for all time. 

1352
01:18:13,190 --> 01:18:15,550
I don't understand. 
Like, shut up, Brad. 

1353
01:18:15,990 --> 01:18:17,190
OK. 
Oh, my God. 

1354
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:20,110
Yeah. 
I hate how he's like, trying to 

1355
01:18:20,230 --> 01:18:22,950
make it seem like it's noble. 
I know. 

1356
01:18:23,150 --> 01:18:27,130
And I think if someone had just 
left me for another woman and he

1357
01:18:27,210 --> 01:18:31,130
said I like to embrace the 
messiness of life, I would be so

1358
01:18:32,170 --> 01:18:36,810
mad, yeah. 
Like, this is my my, my 

1359
01:18:36,810 --> 01:18:39,730
masterpiece of life. 
I know, Crazy. 

1360
01:18:40,050 --> 01:18:41,890
Like, let me write that in your 
diary. 

1361
01:18:41,890 --> 01:18:44,930
Don't tell the world that. 
That's like what helps you sleep

1362
01:18:44,930 --> 01:18:49,010
at night, sure, but like, keep 
it to yourself. 

1363
01:18:51,480 --> 01:18:53,840
Yeah, you like to embrace the 
messiness. 

1364
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,960
What about your ex-wife? 
Yeah, Like, what about the 

1365
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:01,200
people left behind? 
Yeah, especially because, like, 

1366
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,160
she actually, like, didn't want 
the divorce. 

1367
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,870
Yeah, it was his idea. 
What is the mess? 

1368
01:19:08,870 --> 01:19:10,790
It's like it's other people. 
I don't know. 

1369
01:19:10,910 --> 01:19:14,030
It just seems disrespectful. 
And also like him saying, like 

1370
01:19:14,030 --> 01:19:15,950
the idea that marriage has to be
for all of time. 

1371
01:19:15,950 --> 01:19:17,990
I don't understand that. 
Then like, why did you get 

1372
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:19,310
married? 
It does. 

1373
01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:20,630
Yeah. 
Then why did you? 

1374
01:19:20,830 --> 01:19:25,470
Yeah, it does seem like to him. 
Maybe that's why he was 

1375
01:19:25,590 --> 01:19:29,470
proposing left and right to 
people, because it didn't mean 

1376
01:19:29,470 --> 01:19:34,230
that much to him. 
He's a charming guy. 

1377
01:19:35,180 --> 01:19:40,180
He is attractive and he seems 
friendly and stuff, but he seems

1378
01:19:40,180 --> 01:19:43,740
very weird. 
Yeah, I don't know if I could be

1379
01:19:43,740 --> 01:19:46,900
happy with him. 
I don't know if he would treat 

1380
01:19:46,900 --> 01:19:51,540
me right. 
Probably not now. 

1381
01:19:51,620 --> 01:19:53,700
Probably not. 
Probably not. 

1382
01:19:54,990 --> 01:19:59,350
So then it's July, and Brad 
accompanied Angelina and her son

1383
01:19:59,350 --> 01:20:03,830
Maddox on a trip to Ethiopia, 
where she adopted her oldest 

1384
01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:08,150
daughter, Sahara. 
Which that is really intimate, 

1385
01:20:08,150 --> 01:20:14,310
Like, you're going with her to 
get a child, a new family 

1386
01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:17,390
member. 
Like, that's pretty serious. 

1387
01:20:18,230 --> 01:20:22,790
Yeah. 
And Brad and Angelina did a 60 

1388
01:20:22,790 --> 01:20:27,250
page photo spread. 
For W magazine, obviously, like 

1389
01:20:27,290 --> 01:20:30,930
in the anticipation for Mr. and 
Mrs. Smith, where they are 

1390
01:20:30,930 --> 01:20:35,570
photographed as a 1960s couple 
with five kids and the feature 

1391
01:20:35,570 --> 01:20:40,170
was titled Domestic Bliss, 
Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt at 

1392
01:20:40,170 --> 01:20:43,730
home. 
And I sent you photos from that 

1393
01:20:45,610 --> 01:20:50,610
which bad time pages. 
Oh yeah, I've seen this. 

1394
01:20:51,050 --> 01:20:53,780
They're very, very beautiful 
pictures. 

1395
01:20:54,020 --> 01:20:58,220
But yeah, that is that would be 
very upsetting. 

1396
01:20:58,460 --> 01:21:01,180
It's so insensitive that they 
would do that. 

1397
01:21:01,340 --> 01:21:05,700
Yeah, like it's in promotion for
a movie and like they're playing

1398
01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:07,940
characters in the movie. 
But like if you're already 

1399
01:21:08,060 --> 01:21:12,580
rumored, heavily rumored with 
photographic evidence to have 

1400
01:21:12,580 --> 01:21:14,980
just left your wife for another 
woman. 

1401
01:21:14,980 --> 01:21:18,740
Like, wow, Another like, playing
house. 

1402
01:21:19,220 --> 01:21:21,980
Yeah, that'd be devastating to 
see. 

1403
01:21:22,590 --> 01:21:26,590
Oh my God. 
And apparently the concept was 

1404
01:21:26,590 --> 01:21:29,790
Brad's idea, and he even 
retained the rights for the 

1405
01:21:29,790 --> 01:21:34,150
photo shoot and thus profited 
off of the magazine sales. 

1406
01:21:34,270 --> 01:21:37,270
So it's not like the 
photographer, like, pitched it. 

1407
01:21:37,270 --> 01:21:41,790
Yeah, I had to. 
Yeah, no, that just shows like 

1408
01:21:41,790 --> 01:21:46,990
to me, like a callousness to him
and like lack of consideration. 

1409
01:21:46,990 --> 01:21:49,870
Like, I feel like if if he 
really like, loved and respected

1410
01:21:49,870 --> 01:21:53,590
his friend Jen. 
He would maybe be a little bit 

1411
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:57,310
more private about, like, not 
like being so in your face, but 

1412
01:21:57,310 --> 01:22:00,910
it also like, plays into the 
rumor that like, oh, he, you 

1413
01:22:00,910 --> 01:22:03,270
know, he's just like noble guy, 
like just like looking to start 

1414
01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:06,310
a family. 
You know, it does, Yeah. 

1415
01:22:06,310 --> 01:22:11,310
I mean, the cover is literally 
him in the backyard with like 

1416
01:22:11,350 --> 01:22:15,830
four of their sons or fake sons 
in the kiddie pool. 

1417
01:22:17,230 --> 01:22:19,550
It literally plays into that 
rumor. 

1418
01:22:20,270 --> 01:22:22,650
Yeah. 
And I think that's the idea, but

1419
01:22:22,650 --> 01:22:27,170
it's kind of obvious how many do
it is. 

1420
01:22:28,810 --> 01:22:31,090
And like, there's a lot of 
photos like this. 

1421
01:22:31,090 --> 01:22:34,770
Must have been like, multiple 
days of Wow photo shoot, yeah? 

1422
01:22:35,170 --> 01:22:39,170
Damn. 
So then at September and Jen is 

1423
01:22:39,170 --> 01:22:43,410
interviewed by Vanity Fair in an
article titled The Unsinkable 

1424
01:22:43,410 --> 01:22:46,850
Jennifer Aniston. 
Her people are really. 

1425
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,920
Working overtime, I think to 
like, make her the hero of this 

1426
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:56,280
story and succeed. 
Like people are more in love 

1427
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,280
with Jennifer Aniston than ever 
before. 

1428
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,120
And she's America's sweetheart. 
She really is, and the 

1429
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,760
interviewer writes that at 36, 
Jen had originally expected to 

1430
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,320
get pregnant. 
This past year, she's asked 

1431
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,000
about the rumors that their 
marriage ended because he wanted

1432
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,760
to start a family, and she 
didn't. 

1433
01:23:13,220 --> 01:23:15,980
And she says a man divorcing 
would never be accused of 

1434
01:23:15,980 --> 01:23:19,180
choosing career over a child. 
That really pissed me off. 

1435
01:23:19,220 --> 01:23:21,780
I've never in my life said I 
didn't want to have children. 

1436
01:23:22,060 --> 01:23:25,780
I did and I do and I will. 
The women that inspire me are 

1437
01:23:25,780 --> 01:23:28,020
the ones who have careers and 
children. 

1438
01:23:28,220 --> 01:23:30,020
Why would I want to limit 
myself? 

1439
01:23:30,060 --> 01:23:32,660
I've always wanted to have 
children and I would never give 

1440
01:23:32,700 --> 01:23:36,020
up that experience for a career.
I want to have it all. 

1441
01:23:36,980 --> 01:23:42,220
And that, like, makes me really 
sad because I feel like the 

1442
01:23:42,220 --> 01:23:44,850
press. 
After that was like very 

1443
01:23:44,850 --> 01:23:50,210
invasive regarding Jen's like 
fertility and whether she was 

1444
01:23:50,210 --> 01:23:52,170
going to have kids. 
And like every time she dated 

1445
01:23:52,170 --> 01:23:54,850
someone, it was like, will this 
finally be her baby daddy? 

1446
01:23:55,410 --> 01:23:59,370
Yeah, I think A. 
Part of that might be people 

1447
01:23:59,370 --> 01:24:02,690
projecting their own fears of 
like the possibility that like 

1448
01:24:02,690 --> 01:24:05,410
you might not get everything 
that you want in life and like 

1449
01:24:05,410 --> 01:24:08,580
it's is kind of sad that like. 
She said she really wanted to 

1450
01:24:08,580 --> 01:24:12,180
have kids and then through no 
fault of her own, like was 

1451
01:24:12,180 --> 01:24:15,460
blindsided by the end of this 
marriage with this person who 

1452
01:24:15,460 --> 01:24:17,140
she thought she was going to 
have kids with. 

1453
01:24:17,140 --> 01:24:21,940
And like, people can understand 
that fear of like, oh, I 

1454
01:24:21,940 --> 01:24:24,500
invested so much time in this 
and then it didn't work out. 

1455
01:24:24,500 --> 01:24:27,380
And then something I really 
wanted might not come to 

1456
01:24:27,380 --> 01:24:30,180
fruition anymore. 
So, like, I feel like it comes 

1457
01:24:30,180 --> 01:24:32,260
from a place of empathy for 
people. 

1458
01:24:32,260 --> 01:24:36,100
But like, it did cross the line.
It definitely did. 

1459
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,520
I remember so many magazines, 
like anytime she'd be on the 

1460
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,760
beach or something that they 
would be like she's pregnant or,

1461
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:48,440
I don't know, just overanalyzing
how her stomach looks that day. 

1462
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:52,360
And it was so invasive, yeah. 
And it's quite annoying if it's 

1463
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:57,760
because Brad's PR put out way 
back in the day that that she 

1464
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,240
didn't want to have kids and. 
I know, yeah. 

1465
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:04,240
Yeah, like the damage that, like
they did with that. 

1466
01:25:04,990 --> 01:25:09,230
Yeah, if that's true. 
But I I think, like, I hate to 

1467
01:25:09,230 --> 01:25:13,470
say it, but like, I feel like in
a way it comes from a a good 

1468
01:25:13,470 --> 01:25:16,510
place where people just like, 
love Jennifer Aniston and like 

1469
01:25:16,510 --> 01:25:18,990
really wanted her to get 
everything that she wanted. 

1470
01:25:19,590 --> 01:25:22,230
But it's like, yeah, I do think 
so. 

1471
01:25:22,310 --> 01:25:25,670
It's invasive and I think it 
also like a lot of people would 

1472
01:25:25,670 --> 01:25:28,510
interpret it as, oh, like it's 
people saying that, like women 

1473
01:25:28,510 --> 01:25:30,870
are like worthless unless they 
have children. 

1474
01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:34,160
I really don't think it. 
I know that that's often times a

1475
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:38,240
part of it like, but I think 
people just like wanted Jen to 

1476
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,280
be happy and like they saw that 
as like something that she like 

1477
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,600
lost as a result of the end of 
this marriage. 

1478
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:49,320
So yeah, I I get what you're 
saying it. 

1479
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:53,640
It really is like the aunt or 
uncle that you know does just 

1480
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:58,900
want their it needs to be happy 
and like they do cross the line,

1481
01:25:58,900 --> 01:26:01,380
but. 
Yeah, it comes from like 

1482
01:26:01,380 --> 01:26:05,300
everybody, like just like loves 
her and like wants her. 

1483
01:26:05,300 --> 01:26:07,860
But yeah, especially because 
later she revealed like she had 

1484
01:26:07,860 --> 01:26:10,820
fertility issues too. 
And like, obviously it's like 

1485
01:26:11,300 --> 01:26:14,620
she was worried about this, like
other people don't have to worry

1486
01:26:14,620 --> 01:26:17,180
about it on her behalf. 
So yeah. 

1487
01:26:17,660 --> 01:26:21,380
That only very private. 
Yeah, I think unfortunately the 

1488
01:26:21,380 --> 01:26:23,700
fact that they had been so 
public, I don't think they 

1489
01:26:23,700 --> 01:26:25,020
realized that they would be 
like. 

1490
01:26:25,480 --> 01:26:27,800
Paying the price. 
And really Jen would be paying 

1491
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,960
the price for that so many years
later. 

1492
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:34,640
So Jen's close friends tells 
reporters, the reporter Leslie 

1493
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,720
Bennett of this article that 
Brad could have done more to 

1494
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,480
refute the rumors, but that they
think he didn't because it made 

1495
01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:43,320
it seem as though he left her 
for a noble reason, to leave her

1496
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,400
for Earth Mother Jolie, which is
kind of funny. 

1497
01:26:46,440 --> 01:26:51,920
She really is like, she does 
seem like Mother Teresa, like 

1498
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:57,250
adopting these orphans and. 
Yeah, and a friend says when 

1499
01:26:57,250 --> 01:27:00,570
Brad and Jen were in the 
marriage, having a baby was not 

1500
01:27:00,570 --> 01:27:04,610
his priority ever. 
It was an abstract desire for 

1501
01:27:04,610 --> 01:27:07,930
him, whereas for Jen it was much
more immediate. 

1502
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,520
So is there a part of Brad 
that's diabolical? 

1503
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,240
Did he think I need to get out 
of this marriage? 

1504
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,760
But I want to come out smelling 
like a rose, so I'm going to let

1505
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,120
Jen be cast as the ultra 
feminist, and I'm going to get 

1506
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,880
cast as the poor husband who 
couldn't get a baby. 

1507
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,640
And so I had to move on. 
Oh my God. 

1508
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,880
I believe that because like in 
that article before, she was the

1509
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:33,920
one talking about baby proofing 
the apartment or the house. 

1510
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,480
And he was the one that was 
like. 

1511
01:27:36,910 --> 01:27:38,190
I think I want kids. 
Yeah. 

1512
01:27:38,190 --> 01:27:41,590
Like eventually I do want kids. 
Like, I'm ready for that next 

1513
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:43,870
step. 
It seems fulfilling to, you 

1514
01:27:43,910 --> 01:27:46,030
know, teach kids what you know, 
you know? 

1515
01:27:46,710 --> 01:27:48,910
But it was self like, I don't 
know. 

1516
01:27:48,910 --> 01:27:50,270
I mean obviously I don't know 
them. 

1517
01:27:50,270 --> 01:27:51,550
I don't know. 
I wasn't there. 

1518
01:27:51,550 --> 01:27:53,350
I wasn't in the room when all 
this went down. 

1519
01:27:53,630 --> 01:27:57,150
But just from what I'm picking 
up, I if I had to guess, I feel 

1520
01:27:57,150 --> 01:28:00,630
like it had nothing to do with 
kids whatsoever. 

1521
01:28:00,870 --> 01:28:04,430
I feel like he was just into 
Angelina Jolie and he seems very

1522
01:28:04,430 --> 01:28:07,150
restless and he was just moving 
on to the next thing. 

1523
01:28:07,190 --> 01:28:09,270
Exactly. 
And like, the only reason kids 

1524
01:28:09,270 --> 01:28:12,390
are even brought up is because 
Angelina has two kids. 

1525
01:28:12,950 --> 01:28:15,790
Yeah. 
And it's very unfortunate that, 

1526
01:28:15,790 --> 01:28:19,830
like, they're even, like, 
wasting time on any other 

1527
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:21,670
things. 
But you know, once someone like,

1528
01:28:21,670 --> 01:28:24,470
gets in trouble and they really 
do everything they can to, like,

1529
01:28:24,470 --> 01:28:28,190
divert attention and like, make 
it about something else, Yep. 

1530
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,280
So in this article it's revealed
that it was Brad's idea to 

1531
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,200
separate and that Jen did not 
want to, and that she had 

1532
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:40,000
suspicions that it was about 
Angelina, but that he denied it.

1533
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:45,600
And when the interviewer asks 
her about that, she says what we

1534
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:49,680
said was true. 
As far as I knew, we wrote it 

1535
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,120
together very consciously and 
felt very good about it. 

1536
01:28:53,490 --> 01:28:56,850
We exited the relationship as 
beautifully as we entered it, 

1537
01:28:56,930 --> 01:28:59,810
which again is like, I feel like
she's always trying to like be 

1538
01:28:59,810 --> 01:29:05,010
positive, but the way she says 
what we said was true, as I 

1539
01:29:05,010 --> 01:29:11,130
knew, I think is her admitting 
that like, he might have cheated

1540
01:29:11,130 --> 01:29:12,130
on me? 
I don't know. 

1541
01:29:12,690 --> 01:29:14,530
Yeah, that. 
Maybe at the time she didn't 

1542
01:29:14,530 --> 01:29:18,370
know everything. 
She's then asked about the 

1543
01:29:18,370 --> 01:29:22,650
pictures of Brad and Angelina on
the beach with Angelina's son. 

1544
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,720
And like, and about that being 
so soon after their breakup. 

1545
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,240
And she says the world was 
shocked and I was shocked. 

1546
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,680
And she describes the process of
the breakup as a grieving 

1547
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:37,240
journey and that her friends 
make comments about how they're 

1548
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:42,080
all amazed by her strength. 
And she says, I felt, I feel 

1549
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,360
like I'm nesting. 
I love being home. 

1550
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:48,120
I have friends that come over at
my girlfriends I've had for 20 

1551
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,200
years. 
When things happen, the tribe 

1552
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:54,260
gathers around and lifts you up.
I've had lonely moments, sure, 

1553
01:29:54,540 --> 01:29:56,260
but I'm also enjoying being 
alone. 

1554
01:29:56,260 --> 01:29:58,500
There's no question it takes 
getting used to. 

1555
01:29:58,900 --> 01:30:02,380
I'm a partnership person, and if
something happens, your instinct

1556
01:30:02,540 --> 01:30:05,300
is to share it, but you're no 
longer part of a couple. 

1557
01:30:05,300 --> 01:30:08,140
I definitely miss that. 
Sort of like Bambi, like you're 

1558
01:30:08,140 --> 01:30:10,780
trying to learn how to walk. 
You're a little awkward, You 

1559
01:30:10,780 --> 01:30:13,020
stumble a little bit. 
The things you would do with 

1560
01:30:13,020 --> 01:30:17,460
your partner, you don't do. 
It's unchartered territory, but 

1561
01:30:17,460 --> 01:30:20,100
I think it's good for me to be a
solo person right now. 

1562
01:30:20,500 --> 01:30:23,700
You're forced to reconnect 
yourself and take it to another 

1563
01:30:23,700 --> 01:30:25,820
level. 
If you can find a way to see the

1564
01:30:25,820 --> 01:30:29,700
glass half full, there are the 
moments when you learn the most.

1565
01:30:29,780 --> 01:30:32,740
I've had to reintroduce myself 
to myself in a way that's 

1566
01:30:32,740 --> 01:30:37,740
different. 
I think that's really well put. 

1567
01:30:37,860 --> 01:30:41,060
Yeah, I think so too. 
I mean, you can tell like 

1568
01:30:41,060 --> 01:30:43,660
someone who says something so 
eloquent like that, like they're

1569
01:30:43,660 --> 01:30:46,340
journaling. 
They're like reading self help 

1570
01:30:46,340 --> 01:30:48,900
books, like they're like going 
to therapy, like they're doing 

1571
01:30:48,900 --> 01:30:53,500
everything. 
Yeah, she's obviously going 

1572
01:30:53,500 --> 01:30:56,340
through a lot to come to those 
realizations, but I think that 

1573
01:30:56,860 --> 01:30:59,020
it is true. 
It really is true. 

1574
01:30:59,060 --> 01:31:03,220
I feel you do learn the most 
about yourself going through 

1575
01:31:03,300 --> 01:31:08,700
loss like that so. 
Yeah, I will say I'm pretty sure

1576
01:31:08,700 --> 01:31:11,180
she wasn't like totally single. 
I think she was dating Vince 

1577
01:31:11,180 --> 01:31:13,830
Vaughn. 
Who she started with. 

1578
01:31:14,150 --> 01:31:16,790
But I don't think it was that 
serious of a relationship. 

1579
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:18,950
And the fact she's saying all 
this, like, it really makes you 

1580
01:31:18,950 --> 01:31:21,070
wonder. 
Like, were they just kind of 

1581
01:31:21,070 --> 01:31:24,830
like pretend dating, You know, 
so it looked like she was moving

1582
01:31:24,830 --> 01:31:27,990
on and I'm not sure. 
Maybe so on. 

1583
01:31:28,070 --> 01:31:32,230
This is a very long article and 
very revealing. 

1584
01:31:32,230 --> 01:31:37,200
Like it's. 
I don't think stuff like this is

1585
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,480
really ever written nowadays, 
where like the biggest celebrity

1586
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:43,120
you get like all these pieces of
juice. 

1587
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,160
What is it? 
Well, so she just like they 

1588
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:47,760
talk. 
Like the whole interview was 

1589
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:51,960
basically about the divorce and 
on the idea of being left for 

1590
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,200
another woman, she says. 
I would be a robot if I said I 

1591
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:58,360
didn't feel moments of anger, of
hurt, of embarrassment. 

1592
01:31:58,860 --> 01:32:00,740
And, she adds, I don't feel like
a victim. 

1593
01:32:00,740 --> 01:32:04,740
I've worked with this therapist 
for a long time, and her major 

1594
01:32:04,740 --> 01:32:08,100
focus is that you get one day of
being a victim and that's it. 

1595
01:32:08,460 --> 01:32:11,340
Then we take responsibility for 
our own input. 

1596
01:32:11,660 --> 01:32:15,220
To live in a victim place is 
pointing a finger at someone 

1597
01:32:15,220 --> 01:32:20,060
else, as if you had no control. 
Relationships are two people. 

1598
01:32:20,060 --> 01:32:24,460
Everything is accountable. 
I kind of hate when people say 

1599
01:32:24,460 --> 01:32:26,180
stuff like that. 
In terms of cheating though, 

1600
01:32:26,180 --> 01:32:29,150
because it's like it's. 
It's still never really your 

1601
01:32:29,150 --> 01:32:32,590
fault to get cheated on. 
I don't know it's not. 

1602
01:32:32,710 --> 01:32:37,750
But it it can be helpful in a 
way to recognize like maybe I 

1603
01:32:37,750 --> 01:32:44,190
had low self esteem or something
and I I knew that he was kind of

1604
01:32:44,190 --> 01:32:48,090
shifty and I but like I had to 
stay with him because he's Brad 

1605
01:32:48,090 --> 01:32:51,770
Pitt and now I need to recognize
that I don't need to be with 

1606
01:32:51,770 --> 01:32:54,450
somebody. 
That's very gorgeous because 

1607
01:32:54,530 --> 01:32:56,050
blah blah blah, you know what I 
mean? 

1608
01:32:56,050 --> 01:32:58,170
Yeah, like I'm better off. 
I thought that person. 

1609
01:32:58,170 --> 01:33:03,930
Anyway, yeah, I think it is good
to put some power back in your 

1610
01:33:04,410 --> 01:33:05,890
hands. 
Exactly, yeah. 

1611
01:33:05,890 --> 01:33:07,930
I agree with that and learn from
it. 

1612
01:33:08,050 --> 01:33:10,930
I do think that if you stay in 
that place of like woe is me, 

1613
01:33:10,930 --> 01:33:13,450
like I was cheated on like it's 
going to be hard to. 

1614
01:33:14,310 --> 01:33:17,430
Never move on because you'll 
feel like you're owed something 

1615
01:33:17,430 --> 01:33:19,870
that you're not going to receive
from somebody else. 

1616
01:33:19,870 --> 01:33:24,110
So. 
And you cannot control anybody 

1617
01:33:24,110 --> 01:33:25,870
else. 
Unfortunately, it's true. 

1618
01:33:26,710 --> 01:33:29,670
It's true. 
And she's asked if she believed 

1619
01:33:29,670 --> 01:33:30,350
that. 
Brad. 

1620
01:33:31,150 --> 01:33:33,470
Didn't cheat, which like I feel 
like, like, like I said 

1621
01:33:33,470 --> 01:33:35,510
nowadays. 
Like reporters like are not that

1622
01:33:35,750 --> 01:33:40,230
like upfront, I know. 
And she said I chose to believe 

1623
01:33:40,230 --> 01:33:43,230
my husband at this point. 
I wouldn't be surprised by 

1624
01:33:43,270 --> 01:33:46,710
anything, but I would much 
rather choose to believe him. 

1625
01:33:51,140 --> 01:33:54,940
That's hard, I know. 
The interviewer brings up Brad's

1626
01:33:54,940 --> 01:33:58,500
new bleach bond hair and Jen 
says Billy Idol called. 

1627
01:33:58,500 --> 01:34:01,020
He wants his look back. 
So she's like something like 

1628
01:34:01,020 --> 01:34:06,140
kind of flirty I feel. 
And she's asked about the W 

1629
01:34:06,140 --> 01:34:10,060
magazine photo spread and she 
says I can also imagine Brad 

1630
01:34:10,060 --> 01:34:13,900
having absolutely no clue why 
people would be appalled by it. 

1631
01:34:14,300 --> 01:34:18,060
Brad is not mean spirited. 
He would never intentionally try

1632
01:34:18,060 --> 01:34:21,570
to rub something in my face. 
In hindsight, I can see him 

1633
01:34:21,570 --> 01:34:24,530
going, Oh, I can see that was 
inconsiderate. 

1634
01:34:24,730 --> 01:34:27,610
But I know Brad. 
Brad wouldn't say Brad. 

1635
01:34:27,690 --> 01:34:34,810
Brad would say that's art. 
Yeah, I'm sure he was like, 

1636
01:34:35,370 --> 01:34:39,050
obviously it wasn't mean 
spirited, but like be a little 

1637
01:34:39,050 --> 01:34:41,130
bit smarter. 
Like, I feel like, honestly, I 

1638
01:34:41,130 --> 01:34:46,130
feel like the lack of intent is 
like worse. 

1639
01:34:46,900 --> 01:34:49,220
Because it's like you weren't 
thinking about that at all. 

1640
01:34:49,500 --> 01:34:51,500
I don't know. 
Brad. 

1641
01:34:51,500 --> 01:34:52,140
Brad. 
Brad. 

1642
01:34:52,140 --> 01:34:56,500
I know she goes on to say that 
her idea of marriage is that 

1643
01:34:56,500 --> 01:34:59,420
it's not perfect, but when 
things get tough, it could be an

1644
01:34:59,420 --> 01:35:03,260
amazing moment of deepening and 
enlightenment and connection. 

1645
01:35:03,260 --> 01:35:05,860
But then she lights a cigarette,
which I didn't know she was a 

1646
01:35:05,900 --> 01:35:10,150
singer, and adds. 
That's not Brad's view of it. 

1647
01:35:10,510 --> 01:35:13,590
We believe in different things. 
I guess you can't force a 

1648
01:35:13,590 --> 01:35:17,190
relationship, even if it's your 
view of how you would like it to

1649
01:35:17,190 --> 01:35:19,510
be conducted, which is very 
true. 

1650
01:35:20,310 --> 01:35:24,150
So chill like the cigarette. 
I know you know what that's 

1651
01:35:24,150 --> 01:35:26,550
balls like. 
That's like that's hot. 

1652
01:35:26,550 --> 01:35:30,870
It is so cool. 
It's like kind of like she 

1653
01:35:30,870 --> 01:35:37,520
lights a cigarette and she's 
like, but say Lovey, I love it. 

1654
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,880
You can't control people, and 
her same high school friend from

1655
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:45,760
before, Andrea says. 
He wanted to figure out who he 

1656
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:50,040
was and what he wanted, but he 
seemed to want to do it without 

1657
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:52,440
being married. 
She wanted him to figure out 

1658
01:35:52,440 --> 01:35:55,400
what he wanted and stay married.
He didn't think he could do 

1659
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:57,080
that. 
So at this point she was like, 

1660
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:01,210
OK, go figure it out. 
What a good friend, But what? 

1661
01:36:01,210 --> 01:36:04,450
What is going leaving one person
for another? 

1662
01:36:04,450 --> 01:36:07,090
How was that like even exploring
yourself or learning what 

1663
01:36:07,090 --> 01:36:11,490
yourself? 
I know, yeah, just going right 

1664
01:36:11,490 --> 01:36:14,570
into another relationship. 
Yeah, that's not really 

1665
01:36:14,570 --> 01:36:18,090
exploring yourself, that's 
exploring somebody else. 

1666
01:36:20,130 --> 01:36:21,770
I feel like Brad has some 
issues. 

1667
01:36:22,050 --> 01:36:25,810
I mean, I do think it's like. 
How do you explain that, though?

1668
01:36:25,810 --> 01:36:27,810
Like it's it would be painful to
hear. 

1669
01:36:27,810 --> 01:36:29,970
Like, I just fell in love with 
somebody else. 

1670
01:36:29,970 --> 01:36:33,770
Like, I know it's it kind of. 
It lessens the blow to say like 

1671
01:36:34,010 --> 01:36:37,450
I'm exploring myself. 
I know people. 

1672
01:36:37,490 --> 01:36:41,450
People totally do that. 
I've done it too. 

1673
01:36:41,650 --> 01:36:47,410
Yeah, it's, yeah. 
There's no way to make it, like,

1674
01:36:47,410 --> 01:36:51,310
less painful for the person. 
I don't mean I haven't left 

1675
01:36:51,310 --> 01:36:53,750
someone for someone else or 
haven't cheated on someone. 

1676
01:36:53,750 --> 01:36:57,790
I just meant that you say things
to make it sound. 

1677
01:36:58,190 --> 01:37:04,870
Better 100%, but like a lot of 
that is oftentimes coming from a

1678
01:37:04,870 --> 01:37:08,750
caring place because you don't 
want to hurt the other person. 

1679
01:37:10,430 --> 01:37:16,510
And like, if the person loved 
you, it almost hurts more to 

1680
01:37:16,510 --> 01:37:20,330
like become. 
A bad guy in their eyes, because

1681
01:37:20,330 --> 01:37:27,210
it's like probably would be 
painful for Jen if she began to 

1682
01:37:27,210 --> 01:37:31,810
believe that this man she loved 
was like the type of person who 

1683
01:37:31,810 --> 01:37:35,410
would do something malicious or 
bad, you know? 

1684
01:37:38,730 --> 01:37:41,370
So I can see why she's, like, 
still defending him, probably 

1685
01:37:41,370 --> 01:37:43,250
giving him a little bit too much
mercy. 

1686
01:37:44,990 --> 01:37:47,750
Yeah, And so she reveals that 
she's still in contact with 

1687
01:37:47,750 --> 01:37:50,870
Brad's mother and that she hopes
that her and Brad can be friends

1688
01:37:50,870 --> 01:37:54,790
again someday. 
And that same month, she 

1689
01:37:54,790 --> 01:37:57,910
appeared on The Oprah Winfrey 
Show, and she appeared very 

1690
01:37:57,910 --> 01:38:01,190
strong and insightful after the 
divorce. 

1691
01:38:01,270 --> 01:38:09,240
And that is my final clip. 
I don't believe that you call 

1692
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:13,040
things into your life and then 
things happen as as they should.

1693
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:15,800
When? 
When you're ready for it, that's

1694
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:17,960
what happened. 
What would be your big lesson 

1695
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,600
from this whole? 
This whole thing, besides 

1696
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:25,080
wanting more publicity, I just 
felt like I was not getting 

1697
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:30,160
enough publicity. 
You know, I think there's 

1698
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:34,580
probably so many reasons, but. 
You know, the other the other 

1699
01:38:34,580 --> 01:38:40,020
day I was doing yoga and with my
girlfriend and we were, we 

1700
01:38:40,020 --> 01:38:41,860
finished, we were sort of 
sitting there just sort of 

1701
01:38:41,860 --> 01:38:45,180
stretching and I looked over at 
her and I said, you know what I 

1702
01:38:45,180 --> 01:38:47,100
have to say? 
I'm feeling a feeling I have. 

1703
01:38:47,140 --> 01:38:50,380
I don't know if I've ever 
actually felt before, and that 

1704
01:38:50,380 --> 01:38:55,820
is that I don't want to be 
anywhere other than where I am 

1705
01:38:55,820 --> 01:39:01,260
right now sitting across from. 
Me. 

1706
01:39:03,710 --> 01:39:05,470
You know. 
I'm not. 

1707
01:39:05,550 --> 01:39:08,670
I'm not sitting somewhere 
dwelling on the past or I'm not 

1708
01:39:08,670 --> 01:39:12,110
fretting or, you know, obsessing
about something in the future or

1709
01:39:12,110 --> 01:39:14,870
something that was, you know, 
it's just, it was a feeling of 

1710
01:39:14,870 --> 01:39:18,960
total peace and. 
I love that. 

1711
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:20,440
How did you, how did you get 
there? 

1712
01:39:20,440 --> 01:39:22,400
Because you had to have, you had
to shed some tears. 

1713
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,800
You had to have some moments 
where you were like, Oh my gosh.

1714
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:25,880
Me not shed a tear. 
Yeah. 

1715
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:26,480
Please. 
Yeah. 

1716
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:30,160
So you know, although I did not 
burst into tears at the opening 

1717
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:31,920
of that article, by the way, 
I'll just say that. 

1718
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,830
But anyway. 
So you shed some tears. 

1719
01:39:34,830 --> 01:39:36,990
You shed some. 
Tears but meaning you know it 

1720
01:39:36,990 --> 01:39:41,310
was it's sort of that the the 
the living in the moment in the 

1721
01:39:41,310 --> 01:39:44,990
in the now as they say and all 
the self help books because if I

1722
01:39:44,990 --> 01:39:48,910
had a dollar for every book that
was sent my way I could have 

1723
01:39:48,910 --> 01:39:53,910
probably paid for the studio but
you know I we needed. $2.00. 

1724
01:39:53,990 --> 01:40:01,950
$2.00 for every book. 
But we had $2.00 for every book.

1725
01:40:02,900 --> 01:40:04,020
So, but yeah, you can read the 
book. 

1726
01:40:04,020 --> 01:40:06,860
You can read them and you can 
sort of intellectualize it. 

1727
01:40:06,860 --> 01:40:09,500
But the truth is, and you sit 
there going, well, how do I do 

1728
01:40:09,500 --> 01:40:11,060
that? 
You know, and you're frustrated 

1729
01:40:11,060 --> 01:40:12,900
and then you get down on 
yourself because you're not 

1730
01:40:12,900 --> 01:40:15,620
there yet. 
And then you just realize one 

1731
01:40:15,620 --> 01:40:18,260
day it's just, it's happened, 
it's collected in your, you 

1732
01:40:18,260 --> 01:40:22,220
know, your your your cellular 
memory and and that's and then 

1733
01:40:22,220 --> 01:40:24,340
one day you're sitting there 
with your friend doing yoga and 

1734
01:40:24,340 --> 01:40:27,100
you go, oh, I get it, I'm OK. 
I get it. 

1735
01:40:28,300 --> 01:40:31,700
I'm wondering if it's not 
impossible when. 

1736
01:40:32,340 --> 01:40:36,300
It's not my fault. 
I wonder if it's not impossible.

1737
01:40:36,300 --> 01:40:39,900
When you're in a relationship 
that's so high, profile not to 

1738
01:40:39,940 --> 01:40:42,260
in some way lose yourself in 
that. 

1739
01:40:43,020 --> 01:40:44,260
Did you? 
Did you lose yourself? 

1740
01:40:44,420 --> 01:40:46,340
Sure. 
I mean come on, it's sort of 

1741
01:40:46,340 --> 01:40:49,980
like because it's so big and 
it's so much information and 

1742
01:40:49,980 --> 01:40:51,700
you're it's almost like you're 
trying to. 

1743
01:40:53,850 --> 01:40:56,770
Kind of navigate through through
all of it, through the truth 

1744
01:40:56,770 --> 01:41:00,370
through the bull through the you
know stuff that's not that's 

1745
01:41:00,370 --> 01:41:03,530
mean that's everything that you 
kind of you do. 

1746
01:41:03,530 --> 01:41:06,250
I don't know when it happens. 
You just kind of go, geez, 

1747
01:41:06,250 --> 01:41:08,690
what's where do I begin and that
stops. 

1748
01:41:08,690 --> 01:41:12,690
It's but you know it's it's not 
easy. 

1749
01:41:14,170 --> 01:41:16,970
Wow. 
Yeah, I feel like that, kind of.

1750
01:41:17,390 --> 01:41:20,710
That reminded me of like one of 
your breakups where you read The

1751
01:41:20,710 --> 01:41:24,550
power of now and like gained 
such a. 

1752
01:41:25,190 --> 01:41:30,910
Yes. 
Enhanced sense of being present 

1753
01:41:30,910 --> 01:41:35,230
and like understanding what it 
means to be a peaceful person. 

1754
01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:37,710
Yes, Oprah. 
Oprah kind of. 

1755
01:41:37,710 --> 01:41:41,590
I mean, I had heard of Eckhart 
Toy before, but Oprah kind of 

1756
01:41:41,590 --> 01:41:44,180
reintroduced. 
Really. 

1757
01:41:44,180 --> 01:41:47,540
To me Eckart, totally the power 
of now and New Earth and I love 

1758
01:41:47,540 --> 01:41:50,820
those books and thank you Oprah 
and. 

1759
01:41:50,820 --> 01:41:52,900
Yeah, that was. 
I know to hear that she was 

1760
01:41:52,900 --> 01:41:54,580
talking. 
About that's why I hate when 

1761
01:41:54,580 --> 01:41:58,220
people shit on Oprah, because 
I'm like, she really like, has 

1762
01:41:58,220 --> 01:42:00,020
inspired people. 
She helps. 

1763
01:42:00,300 --> 01:42:05,020
People, Oprah has genuinely 
helped me. 

1764
01:42:05,580 --> 01:42:09,260
No, like so I feel like she's 
literally like gave me such a 

1765
01:42:09,260 --> 01:42:13,690
spiritual like. 
In his spirituality and like 

1766
01:42:13,690 --> 01:42:17,650
sense of peace I don't know. 
Me too. 

1767
01:42:18,850 --> 01:42:22,370
I feel like. 
Jen seemed a bit more chill, 

1768
01:42:22,370 --> 01:42:25,530
laid back in the interview at 
some point. 

1769
01:42:25,530 --> 01:42:28,970
She still sounded a little bit 
like she's acting, but yeah, she

1770
01:42:29,050 --> 01:42:32,890
seemed a little bit looser. 
A lot looser than the sorry. 

1771
01:42:32,930 --> 01:42:36,690
There's like like a mariachi 
band or something outside. 

1772
01:42:38,450 --> 01:42:41,670
Cool, but. 
Yeah, no, yeah. 

1773
01:42:41,830 --> 01:42:44,470
A lot chiller than the Diane 
Sawyer interview. 

1774
01:42:44,550 --> 01:42:47,230
And it's like, but you can 
really tell that like she's 

1775
01:42:47,230 --> 01:42:51,990
really like done the work, as 
they say, like healing from this

1776
01:42:52,150 --> 01:42:54,510
breakup. 
And it's kind of like the total 

1777
01:42:54,510 --> 01:43:01,590
opposite of what it seems. 
Brad is where he's again, like, 

1778
01:43:01,590 --> 01:43:04,630
restless. 
No, he's chasing something and 

1779
01:43:04,630 --> 01:43:09,150
like someone who's like that. 
They are not focused on being in

1780
01:43:09,150 --> 01:43:12,350
the present moment and like 
appreciating what's right in 

1781
01:43:12,350 --> 01:43:15,550
front of them. 
I mean, we we don't know. 

1782
01:43:15,550 --> 01:43:18,910
But, like, she could have come 
out of this feeling much more at

1783
01:43:18,910 --> 01:43:23,790
peace than him, even though she 
was the one that was broken up 

1784
01:43:23,790 --> 01:43:25,030
with, yeah. 
Because like, she was the one 

1785
01:43:25,030 --> 01:43:27,990
that actually had to, like, do 
the active healing. 

1786
01:43:28,030 --> 01:43:31,750
Like when someone like breaks up
with someone and then jumps 

1787
01:43:31,750 --> 01:43:34,470
right into a relationship, 
they're actually not doing like,

1788
01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:41,300
all the reflecting. 
And like, yeah, self growth that

1789
01:43:41,300 --> 01:43:43,500
the other person is doing. 
So like, I feel like they 

1790
01:43:43,500 --> 01:43:46,260
actually get like less out of it
in the long run. 

1791
01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:48,380
Wow. 
And I like that. 

1792
01:43:48,580 --> 01:43:50,140
Yeah, I like that. 
She said all that, though, 

1793
01:43:50,140 --> 01:43:52,460
because it's really inspiring 
because she's like, when am I 

1794
01:43:52,460 --> 01:43:53,900
going to feel it? 
Like, when am I going to feel 

1795
01:43:53,900 --> 01:43:55,060
better? 
And then she's like, and then 

1796
01:43:55,060 --> 01:43:58,100
you just do for anyone who's 
like, you know, going through it

1797
01:43:58,100 --> 01:44:02,180
like it's like, just wait. 
You will like at one point feel 

1798
01:44:02,180 --> 01:44:04,220
better. 
It'll like sneak up on you. 

1799
01:44:04,500 --> 01:44:08,180
Patience. 
Patience is the hardest thing. 

1800
01:44:08,180 --> 01:44:11,340
It's it's sometimes you just 
have to remember. 

1801
01:44:11,580 --> 01:44:14,060
That word just be like patience,
exactly. 

1802
01:44:14,380 --> 01:44:15,980
It is. 
It's so awful. 

1803
01:44:15,980 --> 01:44:20,020
Like time really is the only 
cure for things like that. 

1804
01:44:20,140 --> 01:44:22,380
And it's like, it sucks to hear 
that. 

1805
01:44:22,740 --> 01:44:25,380
It's so infuriating, but you 
just have to keep. 

1806
01:44:25,380 --> 01:44:31,880
Going Yeah, It's a journey. 
And then in October, the divorce

1807
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,280
was finalized. 
It was pretty simple, like Jen 

1808
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:39,960
got their $25 million home and 
kept a minor stake in their 

1809
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:43,760
joint company, Plan B. 
Their production company. 

1810
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:49,800
Yes, while Brad became the sole 
owner, now he's the owner. 

1811
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:54,040
And it was worth about $50 
million at the time. 

1812
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,760
And because they didn't sign a 
prenup, Jen technically was 

1813
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:02,840
entitled to 50% of Brad's 
earnings because he still made 

1814
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,920
more than her according to the 
California State law. 

1815
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:09,560
But she wasn't really interested
in that, so I don't even think 

1816
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:13,120
she, like, accepted it. 
She really, she really just, 

1817
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,200
like, wants peace with 
everybody, it seems. 

1818
01:45:15,480 --> 01:45:18,360
Yeah, yeah, I feel. 
Like you can do that. 

1819
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,790
Weren't they making a million? 
But they're making a million in.

1820
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:22,590
Episodes. 
Yeah. 

1821
01:45:22,910 --> 01:45:25,870
Yeah, she was fine. 
Like, he made more than her, 

1822
01:45:25,870 --> 01:45:29,510
but, like, barely. 
Yeah, she'll be OK. 

1823
01:45:29,590 --> 01:45:33,190
Like, yeah. 
And I'm going to leave off 

1824
01:45:33,190 --> 01:45:36,910
there. 
And then next episode, we'll 

1825
01:45:36,910 --> 01:45:41,150
continue the timeline and we'll 
take a little bit more of 

1826
01:45:41,230 --> 01:45:47,150
Angelina Jolie's perspective. 
And we'll still, but we'll still

1827
01:45:47,150 --> 01:45:50,560
keep Jen. 
Like, keep giving you updates on

1828
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,640
like where Jen and Brad stand 
through it. 

1829
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:56,920
So if you're still interested in
this couple, they'll continue in

1830
01:45:56,920 --> 01:46:01,960
the next episode. 
Should we do custody Battle I. 

1831
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:05,400
Think most people would pick 
Jennifer Aniston, I would say. 

1832
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:10,240
Yes, I would do. 
Not to jump ahead, but it's so 

1833
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:13,960
funny because like now, years 
later, like, I feel like now 

1834
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:17,800
that he's not with Angelina, 
people still like a fantasize 

1835
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:20,800
about. 
Jen and Brad getting back 

1836
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,240
together, but it's like. 
Yes, we do. 

1837
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:25,200
He's not the prize. 
Like, I don't. 

1838
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:28,280
I don't know. 
I would not want to get with 

1839
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:31,960
somebody years later after they 
left me for somebody else and 

1840
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:36,250
had six kids. 
No, like she's the prize. 

1841
01:46:36,250 --> 01:46:38,850
He doesn't get to win her in the
end, I don't think. 

1842
01:46:38,930 --> 01:46:44,330
That is still on the cover. 
It's great that would. 

1843
01:46:44,370 --> 01:46:51,610
Be honestly a bummer. 
Like 20 years, 20 years, It's 

1844
01:46:51,610 --> 01:46:57,210
not deserve basically. 
If I believe that if someone 

1845
01:46:57,210 --> 01:47:00,810
forces you to read the power of 
now or like any self help books 

1846
01:47:00,810 --> 01:47:03,350
like. 
They don't get to get back 

1847
01:47:03,350 --> 01:47:09,270
together with you. 
Thanks, Mel. 

1848
01:47:09,870 --> 01:47:10,550
It's a good book. 
Yeah. 

1849
01:47:10,830 --> 01:47:12,670
Yeah. 
You know, I don't have to go 

1850
01:47:12,670 --> 01:47:18,070
through a breakup to. 
No, but I feel like you have to 

1851
01:47:18,070 --> 01:47:19,790
go through something to want. 
Exactly. 

1852
01:47:21,630 --> 01:47:26,110
Otherwise you're kind of like 
OK, this is annoying, but yeah, 

1853
01:47:26,390 --> 01:47:28,910
if you're like at your width and
I. 

1854
01:47:30,470 --> 01:47:32,470
This is very fun. 
I can't wait. 

1855
01:47:32,550 --> 01:47:36,070
I mean, it's very sad. 
Divorce is very sad, but I can't

1856
01:47:36,070 --> 01:47:39,430
wait for Part 2. 
I'm excited too. 

1857
01:47:40,390 --> 01:47:44,670
Thanks guys for listening. 
And Yep, Part 2, when Brad Pitt 

1858
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:50,470
Met Angelina Jolie will be, I 
guess maybe we'll say when 

1859
01:47:50,510 --> 01:47:55,350
Angelina Jolie met Brad Pitt 
will be available on our Patreon

1860
01:47:55,350 --> 01:47:57,590
and. 
Get back together then. 

1861
01:47:57,710 --> 01:48:03,400
Bye. 
Is your heart peeled with pain? 

1862
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:17,760
Shall I come back again? 
Tell me dear, how are you, long 

1863
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:29,080
term turn? 
Ah.