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Mel, who are we talking about today?
Today we are talking about Sam and Aaron Taylor Johnson.
This is a controversial couple. Before the podcast Kelly, You
Said I don't even actually know her maiden name.
Well that is, I think you do know him.
Raiden name because you might remember back in the day it used
to be Aaron Johnson and Sam Taylor.
I actually forgot about this. I guess I forgot about that too.
I know 'cause it. Actually, I'm not going to lie,
it goes well together it. Does it does both of?
Them. I thought he.
Was Taylor Johnson? I know.
No. Wait a second.
His name was Aaron Johnson. Yes.
And she was Sam Taylor and they combined them together to both
be Taylor Johnson, which it kind of slaps like yeah, I think both
of them sound a lot better with the three name name.
Yeah, it's funny that I forgot that.
I feel like my younger self, you know, I loved Angus Thongs and
perfect snogging and the books and everything.
I knew him before this all happened, so yeah, I forgot.
I know it sounds unnatural to say Aaron Johnson or Sam Taylor.
Like, I know it's just. Become like 4 names that go
together. I know.
Aaron and Sam Taylor Johnson. Before we get very deep into the
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today. We hope you're having a really
good day. Yeah, this couple, a lot of
people hate them. They're very controversial and
it's obvious why. I mean, they got together when
he was 18. She was 42.
Wow. It's it is odd.
I feel like I also forgot the age difference.
Oh yeah. I think in my head I thought
like he was 20, she was 35. No.
It's like. It's pretty odd and one of the
three words I would use is unusual to describe this couple,
but another word I would say is unashamed.
They don't really care what you think of them, and I don't know
what to think of that. I mean they it's weird because
they seem very happy together. But like, obviously, I would
always think a situation where that happens, where someone
dates a teenager when they're well into their 40s, I would
think that's that's really bad. I don't like it and I don't love
it. But it's so weird years later
into their relationship, like they're still really happy to be
like, you know who might have knocked people's happiness?
I don't know. That's so interesting.
Well, I feel like we'll explore that more.
Later probably. And then the final word I have
for them is united. Oh, wow.
Sounds. Positive.
Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. So who are we?
Yeah, well, who are they? But before we get into that, I
thought maybe touch on just for some context.
OK. I wanted to touch on, like, the
traits of men who like older women to maybe because I
couldn't really figure out a lot about Aaron.
But I came across this article called Bono Biology.
Oh no, on a site called Bono Biology, which is titled The
Seven Traits of Men Who Like Older Women.
And maybe Aaron has some of these, maybe he doesn't.
But I think it might give us a good context here.
Because. It says #1 might have higher
libidos, believing that an older woman with more sexual
experience would be more willing to act out their fantasies and
teach them a thing or two. #2 They are more inclined towards
maturity and competence and are looking for that in a partner.
#3 They are more interested in stable, family centric
lifestyles. 4 They are more secure in their masculinity. 5
They are more introverted, preferring quiet nights in and
deep conversations. Six they are more open minded,
but seven, they might have lower self esteem and are seeking
validation. Interesting.
So we don't really know Aaron. We don't know if he's all ply,
But maybe maybe some of that is true.
But I also came across an article that talked about the
stigma around an older woman, younger man relationship.
And I think, you know, this dynamic is different in that the
age gap is so severe. So I think there was a stigma
regardless, even if you flipped it around.
It's not just like 22 with a 32 year old or something you.
Know like if if we were talking about like Demi Moore and Ashton
Kutcher. In that situation, I think
there's more sexism involved if people were judging them.
But in this situation it's just odd.
But it talks about how like relationships like this, they do
kind of go against biology, where because a woman's sexual
desirability is traditionally keyword, traditionally
correlated with youth and older women are not usually viewed as
sexual beings but instead as sexist maternal figures, which
is a shame. This is from a paper written by
someone named Hallie Lieberman, by the way.
But I mean, people really hate this couple.
And like I said, I think they would hate them regardless.
But it's just interesting to keep that in mind.
I do think people would also judge this couple if it was a
man that was older I. Agree.
But I also do think historically, maybe recently, it
wouldn't pass. But I do think that that has
always gotten, you know, people have gotten away with that and
people seem to just expect that more.
An older man, the younger woman. All right, I will have to stop
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