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I'm really excited for today's couple.
I'm pumped, guys. Do you even know what this is?
Look at your phone, your computer screen or whatever?
Well, maybe they're letting it just play, you know?
It's looking like they might not know what episode it is.
Yes, one is Vanessa Hudgens and Austin Butler when this episode
comes out this is a few days after the Oscars.
Hmm it could be Oscar winner. Austin Butler could be for
Elvis. That would be crazy because
we'll get into it. But like that was like his first
Big Break. Yeah, I mean he's been acting
for a while but that's like his first big role a role, you know,
or will it be palmice? Go, our guy last episode that's
a little bit unlikely but still he's nominated we should do.
Colin Farrell next episode. Brendan Fraser the episode out
for that and then Bill Nye the Science Guy I could see you
doing a bit. Bill Nye episode Bill Nye the
Science Guy. Yeah, I want to do like a pole
soon. I want people to submit their
ideas for the weirdest couples. We could possibly do.
That's a good idea. I mean like Nick won the actual
weird ones. Yeah.
Like my friend has recommended one recently that I think.
Is it weird? No, it was, it was just
surprising. What is it?
An Agatha. Christie Agatha Christie
Christie. Let her name.
The writer you better? Yeah.
But I forget who the man was. Oh that's cool though.
That's cool. She wrote a lot of mysteries.
That'd be cool. Yeah.
There's some really interesting like literary couples.
Yeah. Not today.
Today. Today is a story of I like you
know every episode I want there to be some type of overarching
story to it like I feel like FKA twigs.
Wigs and Robert Pattinson was falling in love.
After a, I don't want big a big lovely, obviously, different
narratives depending on your perspective, do you believe?
But that was my ex-girlfriend is still your son.
Shot was of the ex-girlfriend or something and then what are some
other like sort of working with your ex?
After the breakup, mmm pain and Blake best friends to lovers.
We've had that know Mila Kunis. Yeah.
Is that what you're thinking? Yeah, but also I guess lovers
two best friends b.j. Novak and Michaela.
Oh my gosh, throwback bestowed. One was another theme.
Having an affair to marriage? Yeah those actually.
But most recently, June and Johnny Cash, hmm.
Yes, you're getting together while you're in a relationship.
What are some other ones that we've done?
It's like art of That the list College.
Classmates don't bring your wife or your cousin.
Yeah, that's the same top and two people.
Yeah. But this one, the story is, I
think when there's a power imbalance in the relationship
and specifically with careers, because I think that's a big
challenge in this relationship, like one of the words I would
use to describe them is, Balance.
Oh but then the lighter words are affectionate and playful I
think. I was genuinely so sad when I
found out these two broke up me too.
And I after I'm Kristin broke up, I kind of said like I wasn't
going to care about me celebrity couples ever again but I was
very sad that they broke up me and I were together for so long,
so long. Yeah.
And it just seemed really ready and stable.
Like I feel like it was just consistent like it was something
that we could rely on. Yeah.
You know, we need that as a nation.
Exactly like no matter Matter what is going on at like, at
least Finessin Austin. We're Going Strong, they're
going to Coachella. Yeah, they were having fun.
Okay, so the power imbalance thing, I kind of struggled that
idea some time because I'm like, does it always matter?
Is there a parent power imbalance?
If you don't even perceive it? You know what I mean?
I know. Yeah.
Like if I was with wicked famous guy, but like, I didn't care,
like, would it matter? I mean, it might I've been an
actual factor in this relationship.
I think that's something that we project onto them, but it just
seems really typical for them. I mean, we'll get into it, but
like, it's just so interesting because Vanessa, was this A-list
celebrity. Yeah, especially when they got
together, dating someone, who nobody even really knew.
Yeah, and then he becomes a lot more famous.
And then they break out the Bulls have turn.
No, I think it's a it is a real thing.
It happens a lot. Especially with famous people.
Yeah, money. Yeah.
Your Fame can just ruin everything.
I know people get competitive competitive about it.
Yeah. I mean, I think it's one thing.
It's like, if you truly never had any aspirations to be famous
or an actor or anything, and you're dating a famous actor, I
don't think you would really care that.
Yeah, job be happy to be along for the ride, but like, if you
Also, wanted that I think it would be hard.
Yeah. You like become competitive with
your partner. Yeah.
And I think there's a gender gender roles at play here.
That Vanessa was the more successful one at first.
Yeah. Which could make some men, feel
inferior. Like, I think that that is
perceived to be the conflict. That was in the Reese
Witherspoon and Ryan feel, right?
Yeah, because they broke up right after she won an Oscar.
Screw. Oh yeah.
I feel like that happens. A lot of people but it seems
like awesome was okay with it for a long time.
Yeah well we'll get into. Okay.
So who is Austin Butler? Academy Award nominee is quite
sexy? Oh my God every time he comes
always has mean yeah good-looking man.
It's like, you know, I was just a shy shy.
Boy, afraid to order at a restaurant.
I love his office voice. It is really sexy.
So, who is he? He was born, August 17th, 1991
in Orange County the o.c. His mom is Lori and she was a
whore and Butler. Yeah, Laurie and Butler.
She was a kid. I was just like, it's someone
who's like, does Beauty as fission.
I don't know. And his dog was David.
I don't know what he did. David Butler, David Butler.
Why did he seem so? From just want to figure it out.
They was he I don't know what that did.
Oh I'm not sure I'm sure he couldn't think up parents
divorced when he was 70. He also has a sister Ashley five
years older than him. Ashley Butler.
Hmm, I don't know why they all saw him from.
Is there any other famous Butler?
Like, I don't know why. I don't think I know another
Butler. Yeah mmm it's a nice.
Last name is interesting. He must come from a line of
Butler's because you know how people are named after like the
occupation of their ancestors. Huh.
Descended from Butler's. Yeah, cool.
So he claims that he was painfully shy growing out like
painfully sand. As I have a hard time believing
that but maybe it's like the Mila Kunis thing through got
into acting to come out of the shell, I know.
I have trouble believing it too, because I've always been pretty
shy and I, therefore don't think I can act.
Just seems like some people are able to only be confident when
they're acting or something. Like, they've changed their
personality. But I still don't like a twin
brother was shot. Yeah.
So he was wicked shy. Yeah.
He had special for help for it. I still think he is shy.
He is kind of. Yeah.
But I guess it. He turns it off when he's
Warming. Yes.
Wow. I don't know how people do it.
I know I'm just like Stuck in the Middle.
I'm yeah I'm kind of like the opposite.
Like I feel like I'm not super shy but I can't perform.
Yeah, I don't even though anyway.
I guess I'm performing right now though.
It's just uh it's different. It will don't get that.
I know the job that I now have in the interview the woman who's
now my boss said, That I knew you'd be a good speaker because
you have a podcast. I can edit those.
I'm talking to my cousin. Yeah, so scary when the episode
comes out though. Oh yeah.
Oh jeez. We're gonna post it to my story.
I don't get self-conscious but whatever I'm trying to learn
like embarrassment is your own perception.
Hmm. Nothing is embarrassing unless
you feel embarrassed that's D. So I'm just choosing not to be.
Embarrassed by anything? Yeah, you're right.
But I still do feel embarrassed about pretty much everything.
So at age, 13, he was approached by an agent, who are like, I
know how this is. This gonna be more.
This is happening all the time. Do these agents?
Just like walk up to a random kid and say, hey, do you want to
talk? I know it's kind of weird.
Hey, you should model. I feel like if I was a parent, I
would think that that is a scammer sunscreen, but he was
like, sure. And then he started doing back.
Background acting. So he's just an extra and TV
shows, cute start from the bottom.
You really don't hear ya in seventh grade, he began
homeschooling to accommodate his background acting.
I mean, that's a visitation yeah, because you're really,
it's a lot of work for little pay.
Yeah. Be like an extra Bingley.
Yeah, that's cute. I want to see what he was a
background actor, and he was an extra for Drake and Josh and I'm
fabulous. This and then in 2005 he was
cast as a regular background actor on Ned's Declassified
that's kind of cool. That's very real like they see
the same kids in the background. Yeah sometimes I do have to act
you know you have to like all act grossed out by some amazed.
Yeah and I bet it's fun for them with other kids but I think he
did have a couple lines and that's declassified.
He was friends with Lindsey Shaw.
Ah, who plays most? Oh, I remember her.
I think that's how he got the part.
Wow. What's she up to people were
like really mad at her a couple days ago about something?
I forgot what What if he covered her?
Yeah. Yeah, then he did some guest
roles speaking roles on Hannah Montana.
I don't remember it all, so I can picture it.
Yeah, I'll be making that up in my head, but I think how I came
to know who he was, was from Zoey 101.
The last season, I don't remember.
Remember like, okay? So like Zoe goes to England to
go to boarding. - I literally don't remember.
Okay, I didn't want anymore. Okay, let me recap.
Okay, Jose Joey Zoe let's to England to go to boarding
school. Chase is like no, Zoe don't
leave goes and follows her to England and roles in her one.
Porting School little does he know that Zoey has changed his
mind and goes back to PCI? So Chase is now in England, the
whole semester, I don't know what was going on actor.
So instead of having Chase on the show.
They gave they brought in Austin.
Butler, please. So he's boyfriend.
But then in the end Chase comes back very convoluted.
I know how would the parents be down for that also teenagers?
Like I want to follow my girls up to England but it Chase
easily weren't even together. I don't rush on her.
Okay. I want to follow my crushed
England. Yeah.
Okay, honey. Yeah, we live in California
again, goes. I don't remember that.
Hmm. So I don't know what was going
on behind the scenes. Why they needed to give Zoey a
new love interest, but he was just there for the last year.
I found interesting kind of a flat character.
I feel like darn didn't really have much going on kind of eye
candy. The teens, that in 2009, he was
cast in the film aliens in the ad.
Alongside Ashley Tisdale, no way.
He was also cast in the starring role of a show called Ruby and
the rockets, which I actually remember vaguely was on ABC
Family. It was about like the Cassidy
Brothers, something fun season. Don't remember.
One of those shows, really you fall asleep and and he was also
on the show Life, Unexpected. Okay, that is ringing.
Annabelle to me was it like twins Switched at Birth or
something? No.
Oh who's also on the ship called switched a?
Wow, he really worked his way up.
I gotta say these on all these kind of bad show.
Wait, Life, Unexpected, okay. Without like a pregnancy thing,
I that sounds familiar. I don't know, there was a period
of time when I was I guess when both of us were in Middle School
pregnancy was like the it. Oh my God.
It was so it was fettered by. It's all he had.
Did he especially um, Teen Mom 16 and Pregnant Juno?
Secret life, American teenager, everyone was pregnant and on
every team show there was an easy pregnancy.
I was disappointed. When I got sick High School,
nobody was pregnant. There was only one really but
she was, I was like a senior and she's a freshman so I didn't
even get to watch. I have.
That's disappointing. You know and I think was like
near the end of the year. You kept the baby I believe.
Anyway so yeah so he was really Just doing as Kelly said, these
bad roles kind of or bad shows and he gave an interview
recently in GQ where he said I wanted to, to do a part, like,
What's Eating Gilbert Grape or The Basketball Diaries?
I was watching, Raging Bull and those types of films and going,
I don't want to be just a guy who walks in slow-mo, through a
door, which is kind of interesting because who does
this remind me of Taylor Lautner?
No. Oh, Zack out who Vanessa dating?
Who was eye candy and you wanted to be more serious.
But, you know, kind of look down on the roles that he had saying.
Well, Vanessa likes the eye candy.
Yeah, she gets it. Yeah, the article also wrote, I
just thought this was interesting to, you know, get a
glimpse of Austin. So how did he finally extricate
himself from teen crush territory, Butler, pauses to
think about it. Do you ever listen to Ira Glass?
He asked I'm saying the popular public radio personality.
There's that one episode where he talks about how there's this
gap between where your skill is and where you take where your
taste is. You may want to make work that
corresponds with your taste, but your capabilities aren't quite
there yet. Butler says you related to that
being firmly in the middle of the Gap in mostly taking jobs to
pay the bills which I really really to that because it's
like, you know, we went to school for writing and
literature and publish. It's not like that we're not
doing our Dream role, like, jobs that we would have wanted to do
by any true or not, you know, sorry.
We realized, I'm not okay. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. That's very thoughtful of him.
Yeah. Like you can't just expect like
not everybody's going to be able to do just what is?
Yeah, in their taste. Yeah, yeah, wow.
But that's how you gain experience.
Audiences by doing other things and being combo about it and do
it to the fullest. Mmm.
I really admire that. Hmm.
So I didn't cover Vanessa's back story because oh, yeah, we've
already covered baby. Be.
This is our second Vanessa Hudgens episode.
But we talked about her a lot in our stack and Vanessa one.
I just adore. Vanessa Hudgens.
If she seems really sweet. She's sweet.
She's funny. She's cute.
I'm gonna put episode. I didn't remember one episode.
I was talking about all these comments a pauper out so had
said and he said that he missed Vanessa Hudgens and show him.
Oh. I wasn't that?
Yeah. I thought so that.
Um yeah he liked Vanessa Hudgens.
Yeah that's really nice. Yeah I think she should fit so
bubbly. Yeah and obviously before
awesome Butler her big relationship was Zac Efron which
is crazy because it's like that was a huge relationship.
Yeah, and we've covered it. So go listen to it.
You didn't listen yet. What were our takeaways from
that? Like I feel like we, I felt like
by the end of it. I felt like that she actually
deserved better and that she was kind of too good for him.
Yeah. No, it was a team thing.
It seems like it was nice for a while, but yeah, it's going to
take her that seriously. So now, which is crazy because
it's Vanessa Hudgens. Hmm, you know what I mean?
Yeah, like I can't even believe this.
At people like shion's. It's beautiful.
I know amazing people. Not, he didn't cheat, but at
least not to our knowledge, but just that in general.
Hmm, I can't believe it happens. Yeah, their relationship seemed
a little bit, not super passionate.
Like, I feel like we walked away from a, not really knowing what
their Dynamic even was, It was kind of hard to even push them
together. Yeah, hmm.
How long were they together again?
Died? Five years.
Yeah, its pretty long. She's a long.
Long-term. Yeah.
Dater. She's in it for the long haul.
That's sweet. She's committed.
Cute means she is was famous and so pretty.
It's like she doesn't really have to be.
She could be dating like a ton of people if she wanted.
Yeah, exactly. It's cool.
Yeah, I think she likes the stability of long-term
relationships, but yeah. So I'm going to give her a back
story but How did they meet so long before?
Dating, Vanessa, and Austin met because they're both really good
friends with Ashley Tisdale actually just don't believe
character again. So Austin.
I don't know how Austin and Ashley became close because they
weren't in that movie, they We're, but apparently they were
friends even before that know. If I read that Vanessa and
Austin met on the set of High School Musical, which back in
2005, I was he there may be using because he was friends
with Ashley. Oh, maybe it was in the
background to, that's so classic for Ashley, though.
Like, I knew him so long ago. Yeah, I knew him literally.
Actually, literally calls him her best friend, like, there's
no way. No, she's at that.
Exact to, I know. My son is too.
I will get away from her. She is married.
Okay. And it seems like Vanessa trust
her but I don't know. We got a message from someone,
I'm sorry. I forget your name right now but
I can remember you. But you said that you've been
following this for years and that Ashley Tisdale is sketchy
watch out for her, rubs me, the wrong way.
Yeah, I just think. Okay.
I think men and women. We can be friends.
Yes, but saying he's your best friend.
When he's in a relationship with your other friend.
I don't know. It just makes me a little bit
uncomfortable. Already pulled that with Zach.
Yeah, exactly. Why do you have to be your your
friend's boyfriend's best friend?
Look, here's the thing, though. Like, what?
Like, I was gonna plan to get into this later but She knew
Austin burst before she met Vanessa.
All right, so you're right. You're right, but It does seem
like there's an unspoken thing in girl world where it's a
little after they break up. Can you really be close with
both of them? I mean it is tough.
I will say like, I had two friends in college.
Well, I was friends with one guy in college, like, friendly like
we now he's a good friend of mine.
Oh, yeah. And he introduced me to his
friend and then I ended up being roommates with her and I became
really good friends with her and they dated for two years and
then they broke up and I did stay friends with both of them
now, I am probably better friends with him just because I
happen to speak to him more. But is that bad?
Like, should I have picked a side?
I don't know. It's tough, I guess.
If you're like, not really seeing each other.
In each of them at the same time, then doesn't really do
much harm. I don't know.
Yeah, it was tricky. I do think sometimes if you go
through a breakup, it is hard to be friends with someone who is
still friends with your ex because it's like a portal into
their life. Still.
I know you know, I've looked like never gone through that
everybody. I've dated has been like
detached from the rest of my social life kind of so So yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, I'm still in a group text
with someone who I cried about many times.
Now, I don't really care though. I think, okay, the men and women
being friends, being friends with your friends ex or
whatever, all that. I feel like it is just
case-by-case. It's hard to have like, one rule
for the whole thing. Yeah, exactly.
No. Yeah, like, oh, who did you know
first yeah. What was the nature of the
breakup? Was it like, Anika?
Or was it like absolutely terrible?
Yeah I don't know. It really is Case by case but
it's yeah I think about it's interesting just something to
think about. Yeah.
So throughout the year she does say he's our best friend and fun
fact, though, actually something that well, I might make this a
little bit less annoying is Ashley, was on one of those
shows where they do a DNA test and their cousins.
Yes. Distantly.
She's distantly related to Oz. She was like, that's why we have
such an intense Bond. How Distant.
I don't know. Okay sealant.
You should. Yeah we know from couple
episodes bag being cousins doesn't automatically deter some
people she is awesome but married.
But how many okay, how many degrees of cousins would you be
okay with dating someone? Yeah I got this cousin that's so
far. Yeah honestly On the DNA thing,
like I go through my matches and even someone who's like your
second cousin only shares. Such a limited amount of DNA is
actually true Mill because he was gonna, I didn't the podcast
then I'm like, okay I fact chucked us back.
Chucked us, his it. Yeah, fact-check us sometimes.
And I was like, looking up cousins and apparently not
saying I'm like condoning, this, but apparently marriage between
second cousins isn't even real. A big deal.
No only book like it's safe. Yeah.
And his cousin's, probably not. But to see if you have a big
family, then you might not even know that you're related to
somebody. I do there have been this is sad
like there have been siblings who have been separated through
adoption and then find each other and life and got together.
Because that's such an intense Bond odds.
My God fall in love and then find out that they're brother.
And sister that Sora tile happened at least.
Once I remember coming home, was a story.
I think I might have even been twins.
Oh my God, this sounds like a 80s romance novel.
Isn't that tragic? Yeah.
And then your brother Yeah, I also read that 80% of human
history. Marriages have been between
cousins so you joking 80%. Yeah, that's right here.
Histories pretty long actually. So it took a while for.
Yeah, especially, places like, I'm sorry, I love you.
But like, Iceland, like not many people there.
Yeah, not many people there. R.
Wow, I know your cousin. That's the thing is.
I don't really know like, like it, my cousins who we won't
forget them. So we have some of the same
cousins. Yeah, it's like you spend
holidays with them, like you? Yeah, when you were little,
that's weird. But if there is a cousin who I
like never met before, does anybody know their third
cousins? Hmm, like we know are some of
our second cousins but I have absolutely no idea.
The third cousin. I don't even really know who
that would be. Yeah, yeah, if I was dating
someone and then I found out there my third cousin, I'm not
gonna end. I know you really only share
literally, like, like only like one person and it's like less
than 1% of DNA. No, no, she does the tests and
I've tested both? Yeah.
I want to do it. Still someday.
Never mashed with the Our booty. You should do it.
We'll see how much do you need that?
We show ya cuz I'm apparently related to Alec Baldwin.
Yeah. Oh wow.
But we'll see if that's true. Who told you that my mom?
Oh yeah. Cuz she did the or the answers.
Yeah, tracing, yeah. Anyway.
Anyway, so Haley Beaver? Yeah.
She's my cousin. Oh yeah, she's my fifth cousin
maeby. Interests are talking about her
before we start recording. Anyway, back to the story.
Oh my God. Sorry guys.
So so they knew each other like they're in the same orbit
school. She didn't know that.
Yeah, she was dating Zach, and then it is 2011.
It's September, it's year about a year.
It was it. I don't know.
I can't remember anything about that year.
It's about a year after Vanessa and Zach broke up and a few
months after she Supposedly broke.
Josh, Hutcherson, start. Oh, I don't know what Howard
Josh. Peter Vanessa is asked by People
magazine if she's single, and she says, yes, and Giggles.
She's so good, really. Yeah, then a few weeks later,
Vanessa 22 in, Austin 20, were photographs kissing at Ashley to
Stills, birthday party, and Ally my goodness.
A source says they were together, but in a large group.
They were not doing anything to show that they were really
together romantically, but they were definitely hanging out, and
having fun. And then, in October Paparazzi
snaps, a photo of them walking in the rain together in ela.
And then, in November, they're photographed by paps holding
hands together in Venice Beach. So they were dating, then in
December, oh my gosh, lots of PDA, like they're photographed
several times making out in front of a church.
Point. They go to church.
A lot really didn't know that beginning?
Yeah, they do the Hillsong thing that the celebrities do, was she
doing that before out of, you know, the answer.
I wonder if she's doing it before or like, did she start
with him? I'm that's a good question, I'm
not sure. I don't remember that from his
Echo pisode. So yeah, I bring it up, maybe
she started only with him. And so, was he on The Carrie
Diaries yet? Was that later?
Okay. Okay, so he's like really not
famous. That's true.
He's like known for Zoey 101? Yeah.
People must've been like who? Yeah.
People were like, who that will come up many times for these?
Yeah, they're photographed. Kissing at LAX, they're
photographed. She's photographs straddling him
loose on Miami. I'll show you how to do that
with Zach. Yeah, yeah.
She loves these affectionate. She really is, he's cute.
This is very cute. Couple I gotta say, let me see.
Oh my yeah, guys. She's on top of him in public
and one of those like those, you know, bed luxury, poolside bed.
There's a name for it. So then it's 2012 January.
Vanessa and Austin went on a double date with Danielle
Panabaker and her boyfriend. LOL, that's sweet.
Love it. Still hanging out with the do.
Disney. Yeah.
Panabaker February, Vanessa and
Austin made their red carpet debut as a couple.
So they must they're dating for like five months now, for the
premiere of her movie Journey to the Center of the Earth, the
ascendant. Yeah. 020 shoot drain to
alongside Josh Hutcherson X. Hmm.
Supposedly, I know, I would actually like to figure out what
happened with that. I don't know, for some reason I
kind of doubt it. I think like they were at the
start of a relationship and it didn't really pan out.
Maybe he really liked her maybe she died.
I really like, like Vanessa She seems like a hopeless romantic.
Yeah, she does. Then they take a trip to Paris
and our photograph sightseeing by Paparazzi.
I do have to say romantic. This is a theme for Vanessa
because we covered this in the Zac Efron one.
Yeah. All of her properly pictures do
look very sick to good to believe.
Oh yeah, I'm showing that Boca. Yeah, they look very polished
like that staring into each other's eyes.
That has to be staged a little bit.
That doesn't mean they're not really together?
No, I don't think so, just means maybe she was communicating with
the public or her people were. That's probably why the
paparazzi love her. So then it smart, it's reported
that Austin has been cast and as the lead male role in In The
Carrie Diaries and the CW actually didn't watch that me
neither. Hmm, didn't Kaitlyn?
I think so now. Yeah I wonder like does it have
the same humor and such as X in the city probably hard to
picture? Yeah I should we watch sex in
the city. I love it.
I do think it's probably one of my top three favorite shows so
good. We should do someone from Second
City. You're so right, Mom.
Oh my gosh, Kelly just saw it. Did you think I saw that on the
podcast? Know, I saw SJP York?
It was crazy near Cara's apartment.
Yeah. Believe it or not.
Yeah, right. Well, her store is on the same
street as Cara's apartment. I didn't know that.
But yeah, so I went there to see the apartment and then this
random man was like, Sarah. Jessica Parker's down.
There's another store. She's at the end of the stream.
Like, what is like? Yeah.
Do you want to see Sarah, Jessica, Parker?
She's telling me. There.
It's just man. I was you know, a good guy.
Did he tell everybody? I don't know.
There was like a crowd, I felt kind of bad or weird.
Like there was a crowd of people forming just to see her but then
I suppose you mail this but this lady pulled up in her car and
she had like two dogs with her up in the front seat and she was
like what's going on and I said oh it's Sarah.
Jessica, Parker she's here and I don't know why I expected.
She would just be like, oh I don't care, but she was like,
wow. I gotta Park, I'll be right
back. So Carl.
The guard looks so funny. It was really exciting.
Everyone was so excited about these they're just yeah, I hope
that means a lot to start. I know.
She's real, she's real. She's.
Yeah, she's really carrying She only she's a shoe store.
Yeah she's carrying my gosh. I think she liked lives in the
West Village to so yeah she's really embraced that role
literally carry. He's kind of like an awesome
Butler. Yeah yeah back to Austin back to
Austin and Vanessa. So then in April they make their
first debut as a couple at Coachella and there's video of
them Rives at Coachella. Of course.
Oh, she goes every single year is my heart doesn't feel like I
was that, that it was cancelled over covid.
She was cancelled for that time. Yeah, temporarily canceled for
them to forgive her. She bounced back, honestly, it
was cute. The way she said guys, she loves
Coachella. Yeah.
Let's where she belongs. Like that is honestly Lee.
Yes it's it was insensitive at the time.
Yeah. But it was that was a grief that
a lot of people felt. Yeah during covid.
When the things that they love, we're getting cancelled.
That's a natural like let's normalize it.
Like people just felt grief. That life was pausing.
Yes, she was a celebrity. Yes.
Like she it's really not the same yesterday.
A big house. Like she was fine.
Yeah, bye. She was disappointed.
Okay. I used to want to go to
Coachella very badly. Isn't it so expensive but guess
that's why I let go of that dream.
Yeah, I don't know. I felt like oh I feel like most
music festivals are the same. Yeah, I don't need to go all the
way over there to go. No, no.
Yeah, I feel like honestly, I'm not like an l.a. girly.
They're spotted shopping at Ikea together, leading people to
speculate. It's like maybe they were moving
in together. I wonder if they've played
pretend like 500 Days of Summer is really in may?
They photographed several times a week together?
So they're like, honestly I it's impossible for me to tell you
guys every single time to photograph because, like, it's
going to happen, like they're together all the time, all the
time. Yeah, there's a lot of PDA.
They're always kissing in public, they're always holding
hands. It's very affectionate even,
like, I'll show you this picture of them kissing in a garden.
Oh, wow, it's just Let's see, then.
Oh wow, that looks like engagement photos.
That's too perfect. Beautiful guys.
There's pink roses in the background.
It's beautiful. But that does make me think that
like, mmm Paparazzi was pissed off because it's just yeah that
yeah. How are they just catch them?
Yeah. Unless they're kissing every
single second. Most people even I don't know,
even if you are into I feel like you're not just making out
everyday and beautiful settings, like that.
No, yeah, that looks like a literal movie.
They attended a Renaissance Faire together.
Oh, that's really cute. Really cute.
Quirky, their relationship systems really flirty Carefree.
Yeah, they just from the past as an outsider not really paying
that close attention, they did seem Carefree to me.
Yeah. June of that year there they
attend. The Formula One championship in
Monte Carlo, which my new boss was actually just talking to me
about the show about the Formula One Championship.
Really. Yeah.
And I actually had no idea what that a TV show about it.
Yeah. I guess scripted show her the
reality show. She said it was really, really
good. So wow.
That's kind of interesting that I did this research and yet when
she was telling me about that, I had no idea what it was.
It's like the European car racing.
Yeah. And then they took a romantic
trip to Barcelona after their photo saying, wow, a million
times in Barcelona. Oh my goodness, Vanessa loves a
good romantic at all. That's something that we have
learned about it. He does it is interesting to
think about the like with these kind of things.
Like, I mean, I guess he had a lot of roles TV roles at this
point but it's like, no, like I'm guessing she had more money
than him, maybe. Well, yes.
He's for these extravagant, she does like that's a blind item.
Okay, that that he lived with her in his house and that would
like she paid for him for everything.
It's like understandable, though.
I feel like if I had a lot of money, I would be like, yeah, I
want to go to Barcelona with you and yeah, I'm paying for it.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Yeah, because she's like, what's she going to do?
Like not go to Barcelona with your boyfriend because he can't
afford it? She's getting pretty easily.
Yeah, huge deal. Yeah, that's interesting though.
Yeah, like he was really living the life being that he was
living the way. So that phrase then they go to
another Music Festival that August and which one it's called
outside land, okay? I've heard of it in San
Francisco and there's a quote, from People Magazine from a
source that said she would make A cute little faces at him.
And it's the candle is like ambulance or something.
It's just the candle she would make cute little faces at him
and he would just stare at her looking totally in love.
Oh, and the source adds that they both had Flawless skin.
I like that dude. Yeah.
It's like a little later but like I hate to be so, is there
like a phrase for Or. Giving preference to Beautiful
People or something. You know what I mean?
Yeah. But picturing him loving her and
her loving him. They're just both so beautiful.
I like oh it's so beautiful. Yeah, now I think that there
must be a biological reason why we love beautiful people for
some reason, Beautiful People, beautiful problem.
And then in September of that year a year into their
relationship, they walk the red carpet together.
ER at the Venice film festival for the premiere of Spring
Breakers. Hmm watch that.
Movie by myself. To do ya, have fun by yourself?
So I'm going to feel like kind of going fast through the years
now because there's just so much.
Like, I guess you all little details anymore.
Yeah, so yeah, in 2013 and March bring bring spring breakers.
Comes out and Austin isn't able to attend the premiere.
But he tweets I'm homesick but sending Tons of love to
everyone. At the Spring Breakers Premiere,
especially the beautiful girl in the feather dress.
I like these sweet, you know, and then April, they attend
Coachella together again and Austin's co-star in The Carrie
Diaries and Sophia Rob. Oh, yes, she's interviewed by
Seventeen magazine and she's asked about her, co-star,
Austin. And she says, He's so cute.
And he talks about Vanessa all the time, they're crazy and
love. I don't think I'm ready to beat
that in love. They put so much time into their
relationship and I'm too selfish right now.
Wow, okay. That's very telling because like
she wasn't even asked about their relationship.
That's the true seeing all that heard it from AnnaSophia Robb.
I have no idea what that girl's up to me.
Neither hopefully she's doing well.
Well, her and Khloe Kris morass and Abigail Breslin.
Yeah, they're all in like the feet.
I hope you're all doing, okay. And maybe go to Vegas together
and their reports that they were at a party and kissing non-stop
the whole time in July Vanessa's, photograph going to a
yoga class with a hickey on her neck.
Vanessa, they like, they can keep their hands off each other
and in December 2013, she post a picture of Austin to her
Instagram for the first time. My God, what took so long now?
It's a hard launch, its it? Well, actually, it's a soft
launch because it's a group picture that he's in with the
Hillsong church friends. We know they're together and I
know do it. Yeah, you're walking a red
carpet, but you won't post. Instagram and Vanessa had a huge
Hollywood themed birthday party. And Austin was by her side, the
whole night dancing together. Hollywood-themed old Hollywood?
Oh, okay. As you say isn't it probably in
ha. Yeah.
So, Vanessa and 2014 goes on Ellen show and she talked about
this. So I will was fun though.
It seems fun. And you were with your new
boyfriend. Yeah.
Not that new. Not that.
How long have you been with him? How long tears?
Two years know, that isn't new? That's that's a nice amount of
time. Yeah.
What's his name? His name is Austin Butler and
what does he do? He's backstage, he's on the
show. Called The Carrie Diaries.
Uh-huh Vegas. That's cute.
Yeah, that's a cute boy right there.
No, he's pretty handsome. Very, very handsome.
That's is it my birthday? Y'all look like you're going to
prom right there. Really awesome prom.
This is just a whole slide show of us, isn't it?
So very giggly, but isn't doesn't that speak to the fact
that like nobody really knew Austin?
Was that two years into dating? Yeah, it didn't even mattered
like Helens like oh yeah, he's cute.
Yeah, like he's really in the shadow of Vanessa, he was two
years into a dating Zone. Oh, you're new.
That's kind of crazy. I know, I really was also
because like she had dated Zack for so long, but like, if she
had been dating a celebrity like a A-list celebrity, like a month
in everybody would know about it.
Yeah, I mean, it's like crazy that they are photographs so
much, but people don't even really care that much.
Like, I'd be really thrown off if someone referred to my
boyfriend of two years, isn't new boyfriend.
Now, how are you Charlie? Dated not.
Yeah, I mean not even Three years yet.
So here we go. Yeah, imagine if someone said
that yeah your new boyfriend. Yeah wait right.
Yeah. Three years this someone?
Yeah. Oh wow, time is flying.
Yes, they go on a double date and merge with Ashley Benson and
Ryan. Good.
Oh, cool. In April 2014, they attend court
Elegance or time. I think this is go every year
and Have to keep mentioning it cute in August 2014.
It's Austin's, 23rd birthday and Vanessa post a photo of them
together and captions it yesterday was the love of my
lifes birthday. Happy birthday to the man with
the Kindest Heart. Beautiful Soul crazy talent and
best looks I've ever known. He never stops inspiring me in
every aspect of life, and always lifts those around him up
higher. I thank God.
So greatly for blessing the world 23 years ago by creating
Austin Butler. That is so sweet.
I know girl, she's head over heels for him but it really is
like like she's so supportive of him like she's like, he's so
hard-working so handsome and it's just like, nobody even
really even knew who he was, you know what I mean?
She's really lifting him up and like telling the world.
Like this is a great guy. Okay, more sad stuff though like
sadly Austin's Mom Lori passed away after a battle with cancer
and he tweeted Lori. Butler my mom my hero and my
best friend passed away this morning.
Let's all celebrate her. I love you and we'll miss you
everyday, mom. Vanessa retweeted his message
and added, I miss you already Mama.
Hashtag, rip, Floyd Butler. Hashtag celebrate.
Lohri spread the love for Lori. He's only two, 23.
I know it's really sad is sad but the fact that she called her
mama like she really like she's in his family.
So, 2015, an August Vanessa and Austin have been together for
almost four years. And at the MTV Music Awards, and
he's asked how they managed to stay together for so long by
entertainment tonight. And he says, it's important to
put the other person first, if you're constantly looking for
ways that you can make them happy and they're constantly
looking for ways that they can make you happy, then you kind of
lift each other up as much as possible and you can't go wrong.
Sweet. And then for Austin's 24th
birthday. They celebrate in Disneyland
together and Vanessa posts, a gif of them on a ride and wrote,
he makes me happy and it's his birthday.
Oh, cute. And then that same month, Austin
posts a picture of Vanessa, for the first time to his Instagram.
What four years into dating? What the fuck that's crazy?
That we were here and we like a Charlie is Instagram, like
that's kind of weird. A long time, if you think famous
people can be weird about that. They are.
It's like some that overdo it and do like crazy and then
there's some that act like they're not dating anybody.
It's very weird. I know it's weird.
But it's like, obviously, you're dating her.
I know I'm going to red carpets your foot, like people know you
as Witnesses boy. Maybe that's why maybe I
wouldn't like that. No, I don't know.
That's like posed me. He's living room.
I think that's A big part of yeah, your life, you're not
gonna put in the first time. Mmm, four years into dating.
What the fuck? That's crazy, but all right,
26th and asses playing Rizzo on Grease live, mmm, and sadly
hours before she is to perform her father passes away from
cancer as well. So it's like, that's a really,
like intense thing that they both had in common, like they
both lost a parent to cancer. Very young, very We close.
Yeah. Mmm, together.
I'd imagine that probably bonds with them.
Yeah. And Austin is very sweet.
He goes to the performance and he tweets.
You don't want to miss hashtag grease live.
So proud of Vanessa Hudgens. And everyone involved.
It's incredible. And then he also treated.
Wow. Oh God bless Vanessa.
Hudgens singing worse things had me in tears.
Just brilliant explanation. #Grease live wound capitalized.
Yeah, that's so sweet. Oh my God.
He's so supportive. I know like some sad that
they're gonna break up. I know.
So for Valentine's Day, 26 and 29.
Oh, Vanessa and Austin took a trip to Arizona's konkani do
national forest. And she posted a photo to her
Instagram with their names and heart that they carved into the
right of Rock. I remember that.
Yeah Scandal because apparently that's illegal not supposed to
do that. That's like defacing.
You know. Yeah.
Natural and preserve lie and gods like they got in trouble.
Find or something. Yeah the penalty can be up to
five thousand dollars and six months in jail you could get
Charlie. Oh my God.
That's why I thought they were so Carefree because they Hosted
a I know they don't know what's going on.
I've been in love but I think about it, that's hard throwing
me. That's so cute.
So somebody snitch on them. Someone must have beliefs just
because they posted a know what still someone would have had
right now. Yeah.
So she deleted the post in them to pay a thousand dollars.
That's not too bad. No she's that's like yeah.
She's got the money. Yeah we know.
Be horrible for - yeah. Be like losing my shit but I
would cry about it. You know what, though, like a
thousand dollars. Like I always say this?
Yeah, it doesn't always a lot but like, let's say you owned a
car which I don't you might have I have?
Yeah. And like, that's what whenever I
have to spend a lot of money. I'm like, you know what, if I
still had a car right now? It would probably, I'd probably
hear some weird noise and have to go to the auto shop, and then
have to spend a thousand dollars on something stupid.
Yeah, so true, true. True even for Just normal
people. Like sometimes you have to spend
that and like, don't be have to spend, don't be hard on
yourself. Like, if you just had to spend a
lot of money, it's okay. You're going to be okay?
Yeah, sometimes it happens. Anyway, so July 2016.
Ashley Tisdale gave an interview to people and was asked about
Vanessa and Austin and she said, I mean, it's great because also
is my best friend since way before they got together.
So it's just nice to have your two best friends in a
relationship. I hope that's true.
Oh yeah, this is a, she's like more loyal than the boys than
she is to Vanessa, but maybe that's not the case may be
anyways. 2017. Austin is in New Zealand filming
the Shannara Chronicles. Hmm, you ever hear of it.
What's it called? The Shannara.
Chromosome me neither and Vanessa is back in.
Actually, I think she might be in London filming something.
I'm not really sure what What? And she's asked by People
magazine, had they maintain their relationship long
distance? And she said, just communication
communication is key. I think that if anything's
bothering you don't hold it in, always, bring it up and just
talk about it on censor yourself and just be open.
Mmm Maya's. She also posted a picture of
them kissing to her Instagram with the caption missing this
guy hashtag man. Crush Monday, hashtag long
distance sucks. Oh 2019.
Austin is also asked about having a long-term relationship
again, and he says it's difficult for me to even put
into words. What that girl means to me.
She inspires me so much every day.
And I absolutely adore her. No, so now they've been together
eight years. Yeah, I think so.
Wow. Then this 19 is the year that
Austin Butler is cast to play Elvis in the baz luhrmann
biopic, and Vanessa tweets, I am like all caps over.
Like there's like, you know, extra letters the fucking Moon.
Wow! I can't, we heart face her face,
her face her face emoji. Oh my God.
So proud of my honey bee. Like it's like all these extra
letters exclamation points and she then also co-host the Kelly
and And show with Ryan Seacrest, and she talks about how she
manifested this role for him. So, I had to play what, but I
just, it's okay. Can I bring this article?
I read. Yeah, I was reading for
pleasure, The Hollywood Reporter and I was reading about the
casting for the Elvis. Biopic that baz luhrmann is
directing and it speaks of how important it is to cast the
perfect person named Austin Butler.
And baz says, I knew I I couldn't make this film at the
casting was an absolutely right. We searched thoroughly for the
actor that can evoke the singular, natural movement and
vocal qualities of Elvis Presley.
And I'm like, wow, this guy, Austin Butler.
What a big break for him? What a good, that's good news
for this guy. Who is this guy?
And then I read another article that this is your boyfriend.
Yeah. And he's always been so
inspiring to me like his work ethic is its compared to knowing
so I'm always just like so in awe of him and I'm so excited
that this is happening for him and it's so crazy because last
December, we were driving along and we're listening to Christmas
music. And then Elvis Presley Christmas
song came on and he just died. His hair dark.
He's a natural light. I'm blonde.
And I was looking at him and he was singing along, and I was
like, babe, you need to play Elvis.
My, I don't know how, but, like, I'm serious, you need to play
him and then January, he was sitting at the piano, he's a
musician and he's playing and singing.
And I'm like, I don't know how, but we need to figure out how
you can play Elvis. Like, I don't know how to get
right, sir, like what we do, but like, this is your calling to
play him. It is your calling and then that
next month, we get a call you. In is doing the Elvis by OPEC
and I was like babe. This is it.
This is you put it out into the
universe and then it came back. I know, I know it's crazy.
You gotta be careful with what you say, like, not so much
weight. So what does what does babe
look? Like my honey, we're you calling
babe so I figured we could all come on.
Babe what you said. He is tall, he's like six foot.
He Towers over me is that? I'm sorry.
A student of their enough 6-foot people in the world.
You know, I think that's great that you sort of willed it in
that moment, what a great partnership to.
So, we'll congratulations. Babe babe.
It's happening. Oh, that's really sweet.
But see, even the way Ryan was like, who is this guy?
Yeah, no one knew. I knew it was, but most regular
people did not know who Us in Butler was He was known kind of
has been as items, boyfriend? Yep, there's a blind item at
this time. No one knows for sure who it's
about but it says, yeah, she's genuinely happy for him.
That he booked the role but she also sees this as her second big
break, they have the same publicist.
So this is easy. The plan is for her to stick to
him like glue and take advantage of every photo.
Op, Lucy boynton's got nothing on her.
So, like the article was basically saying like Vanessa's
career really pan out the way that it probably should have or
she expected it to and this kind of a case.
Like, at this time, she's not really doing a lot of
respectable things. Like there's, she's not even
close like, yeah. Well, you're worthy stuff lately
she's been doing like Hallmark Christmas me.
Yeah, not that there's anything wrong with that but I don't
know. Yeah.
Maybe she wanted to be somewhere else.
Yeah. But honestly seems like she
enjoys doing. Yeah.
That's like true if she's having fun.
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe she's also like awesome. But like, she's so much money
that like, she doesn't need to take stupid little Parts.
I know true, like she is probably so many royalties from
The High School Musical franchise.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, same month. Vanessa pose for Austin's
birthday again. And she says, to my love my
other half my constant inspiration and supporter my
best friend. My everything 28 is going to be
fire, my fire emojis and she also in October post to her
grid, a throwback of Halloween, photos of her and Austin.
And then in November, they're out and about and I lay together
holding hands and the Vanessa heads to the UK to begin.
Filming the princess switched switched.
Again this is yeah and Austin. He goes to Australia to begin
filming for Elvis and it's a quiet time.
Like no one really knows what they're doing.
It's the holidays and December. They don't post anything
together. People are like, what's going on
with them, but it is reported that when Austin is in all of
it, Are in Australia filming Elvis.
That he is spotted a few days after Christmas getting cozy.
I'm sure. That means with his co-star in
the film Olivia dejong plays, Priscilla.
Oh, and the film. So what did Super like, mmmm?
But I don't know. Cozy means sometimes like cozy
could be innocent. I don't know.
Yeah. What if they're just sitting in
a restaurant Booth together? Exactly.
Yeah. I don't know.
And then it's 2020. A source tells people that
Austin and Vanessa have split but the Reps deny to comment.
So they don't ever officially even confirm that they broke up
so they could feed still together.
The Source adds they really loved each other and have been
through some of their toughest life moments together.
They had talked about an engagement before they split up,
busy work, schedules, and travel.
Definitely put a strain on the relationship.
They were a wonderful couple and it's really sad that it didn't
work out. Another source adds of the NASA
is doing. Okay.
So obviously this is like someone who dresses like Circle.
Yeah, they say The Break-Up isn't easy, but she's not one to
sit around and mope, she's living it up and having fun.
She seems really happy and excited about life, honestly.
Hmm, really yeah. Wow, but so like I feel like an
interesting thing is that like Vanessa really elevated his
status Yeah, and literally the second he gets a big break role.
I do this. It seems to me like he dumped
her. Yeah.
Probably. And that is annoying because
it's like you lived in her house.
Yeah. He's paying for you.
She's supporting you openly like she's literally making you more
famous. Mmm.
And then you get a big break. The role that you finally
wanted. She's doing a little harm Mark
movies. Yeah, and now we were like, oh,
I can get anybody. Exactly.
She Coulda gotten anybody two years ago, but she was with you.
She had a genuine connection with you.
I wonder what his to himself explanation for is, I know.
Yeah, maybe it did just run its course, but it just seems like,
wow. Like we've heard this story
before. I know, don't men do this.
It's like, Vanessa, like now, like spoiler, like she's with a
baseball player who nobody knows.
Mmm, nobody knows this guy and he's even now in the minor
league the network doesn't care about The social status of her
boyfriend, true, but like that, I feel like Austin cares about
the social status of who he's dating.
No, no. I know not like maybe there's
more to it. But so then there's also a blind
item. What does it say?
It says the subject line said this was sediment submitted to
do mwah. The subject line is.
You ain't nothing but a dot dot, dot freeloader.
It says a certain actor who has a highly anticipated new movie
coming out recently gave an interview to a magazine where he
talked about buying a house with a special room in it.
The actor never bought shit. He lived off, his very famous
girlfriend for years and she Bought it.
Actually she paid for everything and he may have never paid for
one thing. This would all be fine.
However, the way in which their relationship ended is rumored to
be in Fidelity's on his part, which make him appear to be
super ungrateful of his exes generosities.
I hope not and I hope not to, but at the same time it's like
Okay, like if she's paying for him, as he is, he's supposed to
be with her forever. That's, I know.
Yeah. Like, what he's?
Not a slave. Exactly.
And it's like, well, now he's gonna have his own money, but
it's like, yeah, go over there. Just because you can now afford
to live life. Like if you really wasn't happy
in the relationship, ended it before people do that.
It's shitty, but people definitely do that.
This writer. I love Donna tartt, I love her.
She's amazing But apparently she did that, she lived with her
boyfriend for like a long time, like five years or something.
You didn't have a job the whole time.
So you can like, work on her book.
And then, once she got it sold and made a lot of money.
She broke up. That's awesome.
I hope I don't think so. What about Coachella?
Yeah, I'm looking for something really affectionate, I don't
know. He's like hooking up with her
all the time. You know.
Like must have paid for one thing.
I hope so I don't I can't imagine he paid for a nothing.
I know that crazy, I mean he probably had money too.
Thanks Carrie Diaries. But you know, I could see being
her though. I'm being pissed.
Like, oh my God. Yeah, I did so much for you.
I think it's really obvious that he broke up with her because
then immediately she starts posting thirsty Thursday
pictures every single week. Yeah, I remember this happening
to me too. Yeah, this is obvious.
Yeah, right after a breakup she did.
I know if you did the breaking up, I really do.
I'm think you'd be doing this. You wouldn't care?
Yeah, no. So this is a question to ask the
audience. He ever posted something online
in hopes, that an ex or someone would see it.
Probably, I probably have. Yeah, I remember know, like
specifically because I've probably done it multiple.
I think, like not, not specifically, to be like.
Look at me in this outfit or whatever.
Just to be like, Oh I'm living my life.
Yeah, me too, but sometimes life is carried on.
Yeah, it's you really have to be careful with that because I know
I feel like heaven seemed obvious.
Yeah, and I think like sometimes when people start posting a lot,
it just means that they're really not doing well.
Yes, especially if it's like a very partying nature like, oh
no, the ones that shoot, Like she was posting Throwbacks from
Spring Breakers and just like really like skinless for
choosing. Seems like she was going through
it. Yeah.
Like a Halloween theme. Yeah.
Even when it wasn't October, huh?
It's really she's black and white picture is like I think
she was surprised like really heartbroken It looked like she
was living her best slave but yeah.
So then covid happens. And Vanessa does the whole like
mmm-hmm? It's sad but inevitable gonna
die. Maybe I shouldn't be saying.
And then another one, it's a crazy time.
It's a crazy crazy fast. I've moved on.
When did they break up? They broke up in January.
So, it's now January, 2019 or 2020.
Mmm, that must've been tough for her.
Like she just had a breakup of like the longest relationship.
I know is a very long relationship, then covid hits
and Coachella isn't going to be happening and one thing she was
looking forward to she's just she's doing.
Instagram live and she's in a unstable place in her life.
Clearly from her incision, she's very emotional already, not
doing well and then covid have a heart and she's you're like this
is why I never want to do a live because you're just going to say
stuff and we can out of this podcast.
Efficient amount of her about the Alec.
It's a live. She doesn't know what she's
saying. Maybe I shouldn't be saying.
Yeah, I caught herself. Sometimes you just say something
and then you're like, I don't even know why I just said, yes,
I'm like, you just took the opportunity.
We all put our foot articles, written about it.
Yeah, so mad and back in the height of covid.
A were mad about something. They were memos.
They were, there's nothing else. There is nothing else.
That was like the big news. Yeah, like Pepe Le Pew.
Getting cancelled. He was like, oh my god.
Well, this Gunk Carlos. Why did he like old-fashioned
cartoon? Yeah.
But because he was like, Often was useful to small earring to
the female. Oh God Kong kissing her.
I guess somewhat rapey Vibes. Yeah.
Not literally. Yeah that's stupid.
But then people are fighting like leave Pepe alone.
Those are like a distraction from this.
People commenters are still one of them with high heels or I
feel like she only likes have sneakers now, I feel like he
remember, I don't know. Like I hope that was like a
temporary thing to think that like I'm on the side of like
let's keep her sex. Yeah.
Everyone these days is like oh people are having less sex than
ever by living in a sexless. A yeah they also It'll keep the
high they made on what's very less sexy Bugs.
Bunny's girlfriend, Jessica Rabbit.
No different one different. What's her name?
I don't know. Bunny.
Yeah, I remember her name. I'm drawing a blank but they
made her less 60. Yeah.
In the new Space Jam by am I kidding?
I guess it's for kids but our high heels even that sexy means
an Eminem. I know you just was and then she
had like Long eyelashes was it what does that even do for kids
voice? Yeah, you know I never thought
you sucked like as a kid it's what she's a woman.
Yeah it ain't pretty woman. I am not even like to think
about the word sexy when I was little hmm like I don't know why
I used to make her more like masculine and honest with you.
I don't know. He's only two female, I'm a
anyways. Anyway, All Eminem's taste, the
same, is that what color they are?
They should make some more personalities.
May be too many but like, when you go to the M&M store, there's
like many colors. Mmm.
Yeah. Me and my friend Marissa got in
a fight about which Eminem's were the main characters?
Oh, I said red and yellow, right?
That's what I said. Yeah.
No, it's red and blue. Oh, I don't even know.
Blues personality and know I think red and yellow or the
Definitely the oh yeah characters.
They have their own do. Oh yeah, they do all the others
are. Just kind of.
Yeah I think blue is like an old man.
Yeah red and yellow. We have we my family friend yell
is Christmas. Yeah.
Is there a couple in there? Uncertain, life is over, you
know, yeah, really good marketing.
But anyway, so yeah, so covid happens and so like that sucks
for Vanessa and then that Elvis movie is halted and awesome
could go back to Los Angeles. But he decides to stay down on
dirt and Australia. Yeah, well actually, I'd rather
you could go back but I thought Australia was really strict with
that. They were sewing the wickets.
I don't know if they really I'd have let him and that's like
member Tom Hanks was down there with this, but the Copa Ananda.
Yeah, I usually listen to some Australian podcasts and I think
it ended but they were talking a lot about the pandemic.
It sounded really strict like they did not let them go into
other states is. Yeah.
Yeah, which is nuts. We didn't have that here, like,
border patrol for Stace. No.
But remember we couldn't go to like, as recently as like, A
year and a half ago when we went to Washington.
Oh yeah. Go to entire town.
Yeah. It's like okay, point.
I was it nearby? Oh yeah, yeah.
Okay. Yeah, we couldn't get into the
town. That's crazy.
So this is how it was in Australia.
Yeah. Anyway so he decides to stay in
Australia for months and was this a source who said this?
I said he's basically turned his apartment into a detective.
Seen a lot Charlie. And It's Always Sunny in
Philadelphia. Unearthing a vast, mail room
conspiracy, just images of Elvis everywhere from every time
period says Butler. Owe him.
A said it I think the film would have been very different if we
had started shooting at that point and I'm very grateful.
I had the time to let myself marinate.
So she really started getting deeper and deeper into the
character with all this time to prepare.
He must have felt like I really have to prove Myself because
like this opportunity might not come again.
Very big shoes to fill really Elvis and so people think that
he's dating his Elvis, co-star, Olivia De jonge because there
are photos of them together on a beach but they're not really
kissing or anything so it's like they're just maybe hang out on a
beach. Like they might not know anybody
else in Australia too but they really were.
I mean he got someone's the character, he's probably Isola.
Yeah. So yeah like that's I'm going to
fast forward to August of that year of the next year.
Austin's. Photograph kissing Lily, do rose
dab. A few months after she wakes up
like Timothy. Oh, I'm like that.
Yeah. He is like, you know, me saying
that he cares about his status, like mme with Lily Rose.
Stop feel set up in a way. It seems a little complicated
met her. Yeah, you know, yeah, that's the
kind of person people date when they want a little article
written about them. And Timothy ciamis, kind of like
his contemporary like competition.
Like serious actor. Think all the association's my
God. So, true.
Now my turn? Yeah.
Timmy and Lily Rose like literally dated or if it was
just for PR. So hmm well yeah, I think that
was PR in her because it's just, I don't know.
I would say she's a famous name, salsa Johnny Depp's daughter or
just seems too perfect in December of that year, is one of
Vanessa begins dating, her baseball player, boyfriend cold
Tucker who she meets through a zoom meditation Wow, I love that
school. Yeah, she deemed him and like
she thought I was really cute. Oh, I started dating and I just
love that like she doesn't care. And you know what I'm saying
though? Because remember in the Zac
Efron episode, she said that it was really hard for her to date
somebody who all these girls were throwing themselves at.
Hmm, so it's kind of interesting.
She keeps taking people who are less and less famous It's true.
I'm sure. I mean I don't know what the
baseball player looks like, I'm sure he's cute.
I mean, Austin I'm sure got attention from women, but yeah,
he is cute. And you know what's interesting
is at first, you're not going to see it.
Okay, he kind of looks like awesome Butler, really, huh?
The see if it has the same face here, I'll show you.
Like, I don't know if I'm looking too much into it, let me
see. Let me see.
I feel like you're not gonna see it.
At first, there's like something about him.
Yeah, I feel like he has a long face.
Yeah. Austin.
All the proportions seem similar like his cheeks and John.
You have a face shape. Is kind of similar.
Wow, he is cute. Yeah, he looks like a nice guy.
He's tall to yeah long hair does yoga.
Yeah meditation I think Austin is kind of spiritual to like
hmm. I listen to this podcast of
Vanessa where she's a guest and she was talking about spirit and
everything like that. Like really into that.
I like that too. So yeah and she's been with that
guy ever since and they're actually now engaged wow.
Looking for her, I don't go for her.
She Found love again. I mean that's honestly traumatic
to go through a breakup with someone after that nine years
and like that's not not for nothing, some a lot of those are
some baby-making years, I know I'd like to say that but I feel
like it would be probably really scary.
Like, am I going to find somebody if you want to have
kids? So who who date's for nine
years? I mean, okay, sorry some people
don't Don't want to get married, that's okay.
But still I just feel like you would expect them to have gotten
engaged. Mmm, crazy.
Because it is, like, where is this going?
Yeah, but it seems like he didn't really.
He wasn't really looking for that.
Probably, mmm. He was more focused on his
career. But I don't know why you had to
pick and choose. I know why do you like, why
can't you still be married and also focused on your Corona?
I especially feel that about, I don't know.
I was kind of regular nine-to-five people like okay,
everyone works. Yeah I know I don't get when
people, I'm focusing my career make them what.
Yeah, exactly. Obviously.
All of us are working 40 hours. Yeah, exactly.
I guess, if you're working like more than 40 hours and I don't
have time for really? Yeah, maybe.
But So how is a relationship going to hold you back anything
like being the Working World? You're like I need to be in a
relationship because everyone in the office is talking about.
Yeah, we did this, we did that. We also have those holiday
parties where you need a plus-one or else you feel
awkward. So, I've never been to one of
those. I went to when I brought
Shannon. Hi Shannon, she's not listening.
Anyway, listen to this one. Maybe.
Hi Caitlin. Oh, so then in 2022 and may also
gave an interview for GQ magazine.
And he said over the course of filming, the reporter said, over
the course of filming, his relationship of nine years with
fellow former teen star, Vanessa Hudgens.
Also, Oh ended. Hmm, life is full of changes.
We've got to find a way to constantly be evolving and
growing. He non-answers, politely when I
bring it up, mmm, and when describing Austin, the director
of Elvis baz luhrmann said Elvis was an intensely spiritual
person and I think Austin has a really spiritual quality to him.
He is a very sensitive and big inner life.
He's very lovely on the outside. You know, there's deep thinking
going on on the inside, that's kind of attractive.
It is attractive, and I'm supposed to be mad at him right
now. So then this is awkward and met
Austin, and Vanessa, both attend the Met Gala, and Austin,
attends, with his new girlfriend, Kaya Gerber, who,
which this is another like, oh my gosh, like so contrived, how
did you meet? I have Gerber because she's
another so called PR girlfriend people say?
Yeah, I don't know. She's she just seems to be put
together with people like even though she's Cindy Crawford's
daughter. Yeah.
I feel like she's really trying to make a name for herself.
Yeah, I know. You know, she's trying to fully
Rose depth, exactly Daughters of famous people and they're trying
to be models. Exactly.
They're trying to be a listers. So they're done with like people
who are up-and-coming. Yeah, hmm.
Yeah, I could see Kai Gerber. Dating Timothy shall a Man Meet
Austin? I would rather see you with
Someone we can't even predict right now.
Yeah, I don't know. I would go breasts alone.
So also, Kaya is 20, Austin is 30 and it's so interesting
because there's actually this photo of Vanessa Hudgens meeting
Kyogre when she's little. Oh, my good little girl.
Vanessa is like, that's freaky. Yeah.
And so, but yeah, they're all at the Met Gala and Vanessa is
working the red carpet for Vogue.
She's co-hosting it. So she's interviewing people.
Yeah. And Austin's there is a guest
and it's kind of awkward because Austin is being interviewed by
Vogue by different reporter and he's talking to the reporter and
they're pretty goes. All right that's the cast of
Elvis and now back to Vanessa Vanessa.
Who just had to watch Austin, being interviewed and it's like,
she's there was a red carpet person.
Yeah. So a boyfriend of nine years is
there with this new model? That's kind of insensitive.
To be honest. It.
He debuted his new relationship. Sure.
Wasn't intentional. I don't know.
I probably knew enough it was going.
What's he supposed to do? You know why?
I don't know, but I think it's just unfortunate.
It is unfortunate, but he didn't even Postman.
Uh, so for four years through his Instagram, and then right
away is getting Kya Gerber and did he post Kiger writers and
so, you know, I don't know, I don't know.
I'm just like, in my head. I feel like, what's he supposed
to do? I know you're right.
She's at the baseball guy, really hope.
She's happy. You're right.
I don't know. I just don't really gonna tuck.
I like no finesse. It's gonna be there.
Yeah. Right, I can't go, right?
I don't know if he didn't know, she's gonna work through.
I know it's true. It's interesting because Kya
gerbert is good friends. With Ashley Benson, who is
another good friend of Vanessa Hudgens.
They're all connected. Those Hollywood.
Yeah. So in September of Vanessa is
asked about her past high-profile relationship.
And she says, the public only sees so much.
I've also been also like hurt and like, awesome and Zack
likes. Okay.
She says, the public only sees so much.
I've also been through two very life changing relationships and
no one really knows what happened except for me when I
write my Memoir, I'll be, it'll be amazing.
When, is that going to come out really cool.
I know she should do it 23 this year, Austin.
In is doing a round table with fellow actors for The Hollywood
Reporter. Like a lot of them are the
actors that are nominated this year.
Hmm. And he retells, the story of
Vanessa manifesting the Elvis roll, but he was Vanessa his
friend in it. What?
Elvis was on your mind even before you were aware, there was
gonna be a project with baz luhrmann, right?
It was only in the month before people always ask me, you know,
have you for years, thought you look like Elvis or this or that?
And I said, I only think I look that much like Elvis.
But I never, I never really crossed my mind and then the
month before I heard the buzzers making a movie, I was going to
look at Christmas lights. I told a story a couple times so
they say, but you got out there We tell each other we're gonna
have a little ah, yeah, help you need help like Christmas
Christmas, Christmas lights and and there was an Elvis Christmas
song on the radio. And I was at the front of mine
and I was singing along my friend kind of looked over at me
and goes you got to play Elvis. Wow.
And I said, I don't mean that's such a long shot through a what
another one of those moments and then a couple weeks later Later,
I was playing the piano and I never really sang for any of my
friends or anything and that same friend was there, and I was
playing the piano and she said, I'm serious, you got to figure
out how you can get the rights to a script and write something
and do Elvis is life this friend.
I need them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll give you the number and and then and but still I didn't know
Bears is making a movie and then a couple days after that, my
agent called and said, so has lemon is making an Elvis film
and the hairs stood. Lamar's.
It was that, then made me go on. This is, I got its Everest.
I don't know if I am good enough.
I don't know if I have a shot at all, but I got to give it
everything and so I started working on it.
Like I was doing a job and I hired a movement coach in a
singing coach in a dialect coach, and I just started
working, like, I had the job and then I met with bars after about
a month. Oh my God, not just once not
just twice or three times. Oh my God.
Yeah. Why are you hanging out with his
friend so much? Yeah, you can.
My friend was there to live in her house?
I don't know who said that was. Like, who's this friend?
I know the same exact story. Here's he still loved her.
You think so. I thought that was like kind of
narcissistic the color, it takes his friends.
He's kind of disrespectful. I know.
Like, you didn't even have to bring it up and you know, that's
true. No, I've told you that he's
obviously, trying to mask who it is.
Hmm. I've witnessed that before, like
my ex-boyfriend mentioning a friend and I'm like, Mmm.
Yeah, your time or your ex and he was like, yeah, yeah, that's
crazy. We literally already heard that
story be true. Well, that was and they weren't
I'm guessing. They weren't really friends
where they actually pretty good accurate description to say my
friend. No, I don't think they are
friends anymore. So I mean, I forgot to mention
this but like one time, Vanessa also to her Instagram stories,
shared something about narcissist like oh no.
Stick personality is so people thought maybe that was.
What about it? I forgot what it was.
I couldn't find the actual post but it was something about like
the signs of a narcissist or something.
So, people thought like that about Austin, I don't think
they're in Greek terms, but I don't know.
Maybe I'm wrong. Wow.
So then an Instagram account in January.
This is a couple days. Days.
After this comes out, the recalls Vanessa friend, an
Instagram account posted a screenshot of a page six article
about Austin's accent being real and genuine.
With the caption that says, he went to the Lady, Gaga School of
Oscar campaign acting and Vanessa commented on it, crying
you, that's funny. Yeah.
And then a couple days later Austin was getting a lot of
Class, for Kang Vanessa his friend, and in an interview with
the Los Angeles Times. He says, that's right.
I was with my partner at the time we'd been together for so
long and she had this sort of Clairvoyant moment and so I
really owe her a lot for believing in me.
Awkward. No, and yeah, as recently, as
February Vanessa got engaged occult soccer after two years of
dating and She posted on Valentine's Day, Real Men.
Real magnetic. Love is out there.
What? A journey it was to get here,
but so worth it to get my forever.
We I'm happy. She found love again, it's crazy
because, like, at one point she wrote that Austin was the love
of her life love. Oh my life.
People can really believe that's on his love of their life and
then they're not, I know. It's kind of scary.
I think you can have multiple you can but I wonder how Austin
feels like is I mean there's no he have another love of his
life. He's think you still didn't car
Gerber. I'm not sure how deep can that?
I don't think I'm wrong. Maybe I'm Wrong.
Maybe to me that seems like PR mmm.
I theme song is in the Elvis movie.
Yeah. Are You Lonesome Tonight?
Yes. Elvis.
Did a cover of that song but the reason we have so I've never
said this on the show The version we have is by Henry
birds from the 1920s and it's out of copyright.
So yeah, that's why we have it all the ones I tried to use that
song on Tick Tock and they said that it was a violation of
copyright or something. Has what's known as we're done?
Know your stuff like? Yeah, I found out about it on a
website that's dedicated to every year saying what is now in
the public domain? Yeah, that'll be fun.
And like 40 years when like would Elvis songs be public
today. Probably yeah, wow, wow.
So that is Austin. And Vanessa I am so sad how it
turned out but I guess it seems like things are going For them.
I hope. Yeah, as it'll go back together.
It's not zero, I didn't but she is engaged.
Yeah, but pretty low. Trigger something for him.
I feel like it slow though. Actually.
He didn't even process. The Break-Up we have.
No, we don't know that maybe he was already done with it.
Probably. I think they won't get back
together. I think.
No, but it's like 2%. I'm gonna go higher and say no.
Okay. Two.
Yeah, I think it's not it's not crazy.
It's not important. If she's in love with Colt,
great. He's not going to get cast in a
big movie. Like he, I think I think it's
nice. He's getting a non-actor.
Yeah. He's not trying to make it in
the business, you know. Yeah.
He seems n from one of very little overhead of him happy
together. Yeah, I'm happy for her.
Can't wait to see the pictures of them gonna be beautiful.
I wonder if Austin felt in the shadow of Zac Efron and the
beginning. At least maybe because it looks
like. I feel like people couldn't get
over the NASA for really long. Yeah, you know, possibly Wait,
he's going to be in Doom, right? Yeah, Timothy Shaw and me, they
really are contemporaries. Yeah, what about Lily Rose?
Depp. I know, fight about it.
Yeah, I don't think either. No, I don't want an actress.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she was in the king with Timothy, but I don't
know if she's been in anything else.
She did a very small role in that but the trailer made it
look like it was way bigger, really?
Yeah, they do that. Sometimes she was in like once
you do that all the time. Well Mal, who's next week?
I don't even know. Okay, should I just commit to it
now? Ah, okay.
I'll gotta just do it. The couple that I'm doing.
I've wanted to do for a while. One of the members is a brother
of somebody that we've already covered on the show.
Okay. And it involves somebody, it's a
tumultuous relationship and it involves question other person
involves. I don't even know how to
describe this. Somebody who was in a role.
Alongside Ashley Tisdale. Mmm, it's like you're more
Disney episode if it's comes to be hard.
Hmm, I know who it is for a different episode.
I really have Serge yet. So maybe this weekend alone.
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