1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,440 Are you alone? Come tonight. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:11,120 Do you miss me tonight? Are you sorry? 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,600 Hi everybody. Welcome back to significant 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,720 lovers. We are two cousins. 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,480 My name is Mel. And I'm Kel. 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:34,520 And this is a true love podcast. Yes, Happy Whirlwind Wednesday. 7 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,840 Happy Wedlock Wednesday. I don't know what other W word 8 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,600 we can use, but happy to have you here, Mel. 9 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:48,800 We have a very exciting couple and a second chapter of a story 10 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,680 that you've already started today. 11 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,880 Am I correct in saying that? Yes. 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,080 So some might call this Benefer 2 point O. 13 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,440 This is not part two of our Benefer episode, which is Ben 14 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,080 Affleck and Jennifer Lopez. But it's a little confusing 15 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,480 because after dating Jennifer Lopez, he went on to date and 16 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,680 then marry another Jennifer, which I guess that is one 17 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,080 question I should have asked the audience. 18 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,440 Are there any names that are like, off the table because it's 19 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,920 your ex's name or it could be your brother's name or your 20 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,960 dad's name? That must be confusing, 'cause 21 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:28,680 this is pretty soon after dating Jennifer Lopez, To then date 22 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,600 someone with the exact same name. 23 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,320 It's crazy. I mean, it is a popular name 24 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,640 though, but for that generation. But it is so weird. 25 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,840 It's with another Jennifer. It's so weird, 'cause when I say 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,200 Ben and Jen and Ryan, I could be talking about either a couple. 27 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:54,240 So in this episode, for the most part, if I say Ben and Jen, I'm 28 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,880 talking about Jennifer Gardner. Yes, maybe we'll refer to the 29 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,880 other as Jlo. Yes, is. 30 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,000 It easier. Is any name off the table 31 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,600 though? I don't know. 32 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,880 I might say no. I mean, well I'm I'm taken, so 33 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,000 it's not like, but it would be weird to date someone with my 34 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,960 dad's name, but we we would have to figure out a nickname type of 35 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,200 thing. But sure we could get around it. 36 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,920 What about you? I feel like I feel like this has 37 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:27,760 come up for you before. It has come up with both my 38 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,080 brothers names brief like like soup like one or two dates, 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,080 maybe three or four dates with people who had both my brothers 40 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,080 names but I think it was weird. So I think honestly that like 41 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,040 influenced me dating them but also I've dated one person comes 42 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,680 to mind that has not a unique name but like I haven't really 43 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,960 met anyone else with that name so if I was to date someone else 44 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,760 with that particular name I think that would be like odd. 45 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:57,640 It would be like kind of embarrassing. 46 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,360 So I would probably automatically not swipe if I if 47 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,360 I. Yeah, I'd rather be really 48 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:10,040 interested in somebody, I think So I wouldn't say, I mean it's 49 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:15,240 not a possibility for me, but in in the past maybe would have, I 50 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,560 would have tried to keep open mind, but yeah, it is weird. 51 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,920 But on the on the flip side, imagine you're engaged to 52 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:26,560 somebody and then a year later he's marrying someone with the 53 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,040 exact same name as you. That would be a little. 54 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,400 Odd, maybe. A little flattering. 55 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,440 Yeah. Upsetting. 56 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Flattering. Yeah. 57 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,040 Heart wrenching. Crazy. 58 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,040 I don't. Know emotions. 59 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,720 When I was younger, oh, sorry. I was gonna say when I was like 60 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,200 in high school, I had, it wasn't even that big of a deal. 61 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,440 I mean, you know, in high school you think things are such a big 62 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,520 deal. I basically liked or had some 63 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,640 kind of. I don't even remember I had some 64 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,880 kind of thing with a bunch of guys named Joe. 65 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,720 Some of them were just crushes. But. 66 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,640 Yeah. It was weird. 67 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,440 That's way too common of a name. It is, yeah. 68 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,520 But so is Jennifer. That's true those J names. 69 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,399 Yeah, those J names. John James. 70 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,279 Jessica. People love J names Jacob 71 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,800 Jingle. His name is my name, too. 72 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:26,560 OK, but. OK, OK. 73 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,600 OK. OK, so. 74 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,320 I would say this couple though, it's so different from Ben and 75 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,240 Jlo. And I'm not going to get into 76 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,000 Ben's back story because we already covered him. 77 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,000 And I highly encourage if you want a prequel to listen to that 78 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,040 episode, it's a few episodes back. 79 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:50,680 It's also a free episode and we will continue the Ben and Jlo 80 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,080 story in the future and that will also be a free episode. 81 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,040 But I think it might be easier to cover their relationships 82 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,040 before that for the full picture. 83 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:05,800 But so I would describe this couple as being domestic 84 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:13,760 supportive and for my third word, I was torn between 2:00. 85 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,720 So I'll give you 2 either Co parents or painful. 86 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:24,680 Oh, that's cheating though I know 4 words. 87 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,720 OK, but I think domestic and Co parents is like they kind of are 88 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,200 the same vibes. So I'll say painful. 89 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:36,000 But Jennifer Ann Garner, who is she? 90 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,600 She was born in Houston, TX. Her family moved to Charleston, 91 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,280 WV when she was three years old and her father was a chemical 92 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:48,320 engineer and her mom was a stay at home mom and then later 93 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,720 became a school teacher. And Jen was the middle child 94 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,760 between 2 girls and had has said that her upbringing was pretty 95 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,000 strict and that her sisters weren't even allowed to wear 96 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,200 makeup or paint their nails or Pierce the ears or dye their 97 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,440 hair when they're growing up. Wow. 98 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 Which I don't know. For some reason I feel like I 99 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,760 can see that in her like she seems like definitely so 100 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,240 wholesome. She does. 101 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Seems like maybe that was her upbringing. 102 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,200 I'm so. Sorry, I was going to. 103 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,040 Say, I'm just so intrigued to learn about this because I have 104 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,480 always been a little shocked that they got together, because 105 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,080 she does seem so wholesome and natural and sweet and so 106 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:36,120 different from Jlo in that way. Who is like Miss Glam and Ben 107 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,120 Affleck seems like such a bad boy. 108 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,600 So just what? How did this happen? 109 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,520 It's crazy. But anyway, I know. 110 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,280 So after high school, she originally went to Denison 111 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:51,160 University in Ohio to actually study chemistry, so she's like 112 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,120 brains. But then she changed her major 113 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,800 to theatre and after she graduated she moved to New York 114 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,200 City and she earned $150.00 an hour as an understudy for a play 115 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,720 called A Month in the Country for a non Profit Theatre 116 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,240 Company. And while she was working there 117 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,400 she also was a Hostess as at a Upper West Side restaurant, so 118 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,760 she was really hustling like she didn't have any handouts. 119 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,040 Then she had small appearances in TV movies and short films and 120 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,160 legal dramas and a guest starred in Law and Order. 121 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,120 And then, at 15, she moved to LA and landed her first leading 122 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,120 role in ATV. For at 15. 123 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:39,680 Oh, I'm sorry 25. At 25, she landed her first 124 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,960 leading role in ATV film called Rose Hill and then she made her 125 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,720 film debut in a period drama called Washington Square. 126 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,920 And then she booked more movies and appearances. 127 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,960 She had a short lived reoccurring role in ATV show 128 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,280 called Felicity and on that set. She wanted to watch. 129 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,400 That show? Oh really? 130 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,360 I actually hadn't heard of it. It was. 131 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,240 I think it was very big at the time. 132 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:09,040 I think it stars Keri Russell. Yeah, I've just read about how 133 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,200 it was such a big. It's about a college girl and I 134 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,600 think there's like a love triangle. 135 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,280 I've never even watched it, but I've just read that a big moment 136 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,800 in the show is when she cut her hair short. 137 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,440 So I was going to want to watch it, but I never got around to it 138 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,920 anyway. I love like stuff from that time 139 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,480 period. Yeah, me too. 140 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,960 It's. Comforting. 141 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,280 Someday. But yeah, Jen, she appeared on 142 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,360 that show and on that set she met and started dating one of 143 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:41,280 the stars the show named Scott Foley, and they dated for two 144 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,559 years. Yeah, he's kind of famous. 145 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,360 They did it for two years and then got married in a small home 146 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,040 ceremony in 2000 when Jen was 28 years old. 147 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:57,120 And at that point, Jen had a small role in the film Pearl 148 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:02,520 Harbor starring Ben Affleck. But nothing happened between 149 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,320 them yet because she's newly married and at this point he is 150 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,920 engaged to Jlo, I think. I had no idea. 151 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,720 She got married. What? 152 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,640 Yeah. She's a married woman. 153 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:17,600 So. Then in 2001, she had her big 154 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,960 break when she landed the lead role of Sidney Bristow on the 155 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:27,160 action thriller TV show Alias. Like, that's like what Jen 156 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,120 Jennifer Garner was known for. And she won her a Golden Globe 157 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,720 that year, and she also was nominated for four Emmys. 158 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,240 So she's like becoming a household name at this point. 159 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,040 Obviously, I kind of know her from like 13, going out 30. 160 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,760 That's where she. My mom loved Alias. 161 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,400 I remember her watching. Oh really? 162 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,920 Did she? She would watch Alias and lost, 163 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,160 so I would be like in the room and see her watching it. 164 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,120 But. Well, that's the thing. 165 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,840 It's like Jen seems so wholesome but isn't alias. 166 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Like, she's like, hot on that show, yeah. 167 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,000 She's. She's, yeah. 168 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,120 She wears wigs. She's like, sexy. 169 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,400 Yeah, I could see that. Like her being a sex symbol for 170 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,800 a lot of guys. And then in 2003, two years into 171 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,440 the show, Jen fraud for divorce from her husband Scott and began 172 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,480 dating her alias, Co star Michael Varton. 173 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,280 But I think they just had like a pretty casual relationship. 174 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,880 And then that same year, Jen and Ben reunited when they both 175 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,160 starred in the film Daredevil together. 176 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,960 So this is their second time working together. 177 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,200 Up until then, they're like just friendly. 178 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:36,000 They know each other but reunited and they become very 179 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,840 close on set, but they're both in relationships. 180 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:44,000 However, years later in 2013, Ben would say an interview that 181 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,120 on this set they fell in love. Which is like OK, I don't want 182 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:53,000 to hear if you're Jlo. So he's with J. 183 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,920 This is who he's with Jlo at the time. 184 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,720 He's with Jlo at this time. He. 185 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,160 Fell in love. And in 2013, he said. 186 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,480 We met on Pearl Harbor, but we fell in love on Daredevil. 187 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,960 Like you are engaged. I love when people show me stuff 188 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,600 like this. Wow. 189 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,160 But So what about the? The long letter he just read to 190 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,000 Jlo proposing. I know he's always changing his 191 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,120 tune though, and that will come up later. 192 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,680 He contains multitudes. He does. 193 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,640 He does. OK. 194 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:34,280 Say it so then it's 2004, and we know that Bennifer has 195 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,680 officially announced their breakup in January of that year, 196 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,160 and at some point Jen and Michael Vardon must have broken 197 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,520 up. But again, I don't think it was 198 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,040 super serious. So years later, Jen would tell 199 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,600 Parade magazine that Ben, who at the time was just a friend, 200 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,320 courted her by sending her persuasive romantic emails. 201 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,480 And at some point they started dating, but they kept it super 202 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,080 quiet. I think in light of Ben having a 203 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,680 very public relationship relationship and break up with 204 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:11,480 Jlo, no one even really knew that they were together until 205 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,560 their first public appearance when they were spotted and 206 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:19,440 photographed hugging and kissing at games one and two of the Red 207 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,320 Sox World Series in Boston the 2000. 208 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,520 Four World. Oh, no way. 209 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,560 That's so cool, So exciting. I wish I was there. 210 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,120 That's really and like throughout their relationship. 211 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,720 I didn't include the other instances, but they often would 212 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,400 be like going to the World Series whenever the Red Sox were 213 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,440 there or they were fever. Pitch. 214 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:51,080 What a time I'll have to. Post a carousel of different Red 215 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,160 Sox. Pictures We're from Boston. 216 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:59,160 So did I feel like 13 O 130 came out around that time too, right. 217 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,080 Yep, 'cause it just brings me back. 218 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,040 That just so brings me back to that time, like 13 O 130 fever 219 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,800 pitch. I love it. 220 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,040 I know. It's like it's to me that's like 221 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,840 the peak romantic comedy, the mid 2000s but 2005. 222 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,720 They are photographed here and there, but the relationship is a 223 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,200 lot more low key than the original benefit was. 224 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,680 But it's moving really quickly. In April 2005, they've only been 225 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:28,320 together in nine months. Sources tell People magazine 226 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:33,120 that Ben has proposed on Jen's 33rd birthday in LA, Guys. 227 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,600 He was like just breaking off an engagement the year prior, and 228 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:42,000 now he's engaged. To Oh my gosh, it's clearly. 229 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,240 He's already it's clearly him. But Jlo was also already 230 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,840 remarried at this point. She's. 231 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,200 They have that in common, I guess. 232 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,360 I mean, I don't know Jennifer Garner, but like, I just feel 233 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,560 like she seems someone that would be a little more hesitant 234 00:13:56,560 --> 00:13:57,640 or? Yeah, I'm not sure. 235 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,080 If she likes romance and such, but I I don't know why I feel 236 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,880 like that's him. That thing is, she was pregnant, 237 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,080 so it's confirmed the couple is expecting a baby do around. 238 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,280 Oh my God. So that could. 239 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,000 Be a part of it. You know, like she's a couple 240 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,720 months pregnant, so they've really got pregnant very quickly 241 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,440 into their relationship, probably like 6 months in, 242 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,360 that's. Oh my gosh. 243 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,360 A huge you don't even really. You obviously know each other, 244 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,280 but you haven't been able to spend that much time together, 245 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,840 just the two of you. You haven't like probably taken 246 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,600 that many trips together, or you haven't spent even every holiday 247 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,760 together yet, so like, already be expecting a baby is pretty 248 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,720 serious. So then they officially got 249 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,720 married that June in Turks and Caicos, and the ceremony was 250 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,080 super low key. Jen's own parents weren't even 251 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,560 there. What? 252 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,240 Which is crazy because her first wedding was also very low key, 253 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,560 so maybe she just like doesn't care about that. 254 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,480 But she didn't even wear makeup and her hair was just in a 255 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,240 ponytail and he just wore AT shirt like it was like, no big 256 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,520 deal. It was super private, Kevin 257 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:16,320 Smith, Ben's good friend, told People magazine. 258 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,920 That they're in for one another, not any. 259 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,520 They're in it for one another, not anyone else. 260 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,480 They didn't need or want a crowd. 261 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,920 They just wanted each other. Which again, feels a little bit 262 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,240 like the antithesis of the original Benefer. 263 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,560 Because let's be honest, like they kind of it seems like they 264 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,680 liked the publicity. Yes, it is really they. 265 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Played into. It, yeah. 266 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,800 I think it like it got too much for them, but they were a part 267 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,320 of the media circus and they will be later on in their lives 268 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,240 too. But we're not there yet. 269 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,000 So they're married. They're pregnant. 270 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,200 It's wow. Leading up to the birth of their 271 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,680 daughter, A source tells PEOPLE that Jen has given Ben an 272 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,800 ultimatum to quit smoking, but that he seems to be struggling 273 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,840 with it. And this is the beginning of 274 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,480 what I think is a bit of a tension between her wanting Ben 275 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:14,400 to be more responsible and him having a hard time growing up. 276 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,720 What's the ultimatum? Either you quit smoking or we're 277 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,920 over. I'm not sure about that. 278 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,680 I don't know. It seems hard like, why'd you 279 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,080 get involved with a smoker in the first place? 280 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,440 I know, yeah. I feel like if that's a deal 281 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,840 breaker for you, it should be a deal breaker. 282 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,440 Like upfront. Yeah, 'cause it's kind of hard 283 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,000 to ask someone to change that. I mean, yeah, obviously it's 284 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:44,120 healthy not to smoke, but I think in general to say like 285 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,160 either you do this or we're over and that's something that 286 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,440 they've like always done and been like when you've known 287 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,200 them, I think that's. Hard, I know. 288 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,800 I agree. I mean, again, it all happened 289 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,000 so quickly. That way I'm sure if you're like 290 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,120 expecting a baby and you're pregnant. 291 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:57,840 She must have been. Stressed. 292 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,600 They can do, yeah. Like the least he can do is 293 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,520 probably give up smoking if you're like, about to give 294 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,079 birth. But yeah, I think he did. 295 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,800 But I don't think it lasted. Because we've all seen that 296 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,440 picture of him standing outside looking so stressed, smoking. 297 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,560 Just. Looking done with whatever is 298 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:16,520 going. On. 299 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,680 If you guys know what I'm talking about. 300 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,880 Definitely did not last, but he tried. 301 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,800 So then that December they welcomed their first child, 302 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,240 their daughter Violet. She was born December 1st, 2005. 303 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,880 Yeah, then it's 2006. They're occasionally 304 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:42,040 photographed by paparazzi, with the baby looking very happy, and 305 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,280 there are reports that they plan to raise Violet in Boston to be 306 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,600 outside of the spotlight. But again, I don't think that 307 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,600 sticks either. I think they raise their family 308 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,920 in LA. Jen is interviewed in Marie 309 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,800 Claire and she's asked how her and Ben have made it work, and 310 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,560 she says I don't know what makes it work, but it does. 311 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,120 One thing that makes it work not work. 312 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,120 What? One thing that makes it not not 313 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:07,080 work is that we're both pretty nice. 314 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:10,200 He's not someone who's ever going to blow up on anyone. 315 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,480 What I mean is he's ever. He's never angry with me. 316 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,440 He doesn't act out in a weird way or yell at me, and I'm the 317 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,440 same. So we can handle conflict in a 318 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,040 very loving and adult way. Ben's very interested in finding 319 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,200 out what makes people tick when he's listening to someone, and 320 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,360 that can be someone he meets in the street, His brother, anyone 321 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:32,000 whom he's standing next to in line. 322 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,880 If he clicks into them, he can stand in one spot for hours. 323 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,600 It's amazing. Well, that's nice. 324 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,520 The article goes on to talk about actually how Ben was like 325 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,240 trying to quit smoking and how it seems like he's living a very 326 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,520 different life from how people imagined him to be a year ago 327 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,920 with all the casinos and the impulsive buying of Rolexes, 328 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,960 smoking and the partying and strip clubs. 329 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:04,280 And Jen says 3 weeks before we had Violet he went to a 330 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,280 hypnotist and has not smoked since. 331 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,760 I admire him because it was so painful, but he is sick so much 332 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,360 less often and I don't lose him every 15 minutes while he 333 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:19,280 wanders around outside. He smells great. 334 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,280 It's a huge gift that he gave me and our daughter as well. 335 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:27,760 I probably annoy him. I celebrate it so much, so seems 336 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,160 like he's not smoking there every 15 minutes is a lot. 337 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:38,360 Gee, that is a lot. That's cool, though, that 338 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,680 hypnotism worked. Yeah, I guess so. 339 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,760 Maybe Also, he's so distracted having a newborn. 340 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,280 I'm not sure, but that was actually a problem. 341 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,240 My one of my good friends, she was dating someone and she was 342 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,880 at the time working like in a lung Cancer Research facility. 343 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,640 So she was like seeing people who were dying all the time and 344 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,280 she was dating someone who was smoking and that ended up being 345 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,080 not the biggest deal breaker, but one of the things that she 346 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,760 was like, I can't see him anymore because of them. 347 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,840 I see. Very Aiden. 348 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,080 Aiden, very Aiden. Carrie. 349 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,760 Aiden and Carrie, yeah. Sex in the City Love it. 350 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,440 Oh my God, it's so good, So good. 351 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:22,040 So then it's July 2008, and it's reported that it's reported that 352 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,440 Jenna's five months pregnant with their second child and 353 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,400 they're seen house hunting in Brentwood, CA. 354 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,520 So in November, a pregnant Jennifer Garner received a 355 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,560 restraining order against a crazed fan named Stephen Berkey, 356 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,080 who had allegedly been stalking her since 2002. 357 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,120 And at that time, he actually showed up at the couple's house 358 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,560 dressed in religious garments, and he told their nanny that he 359 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,560 had visions from God that Jennifer was in danger and that 360 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,320 he was forced to participate in a terrorist plot to persecute 361 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,000 her. And at this point, Jenna's very 362 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,480 nervously. She's pregnant and she's fearing 363 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,440 for her safety and for Ben's safety and their baby's safety, 364 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,440 so they get a restraining order. That's good. 365 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,960 Oh, that's so scary. But it's crazy this couple 366 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,600 actually was photographed by paparazzi so much because Jenna 367 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,320 later says there's like always 15 paparazzi outside their house 368 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:25,200 and I feel like that's an after effect of his relationship with 369 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,880 Jlo. I don't think that they're, 370 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,680 like, calling paparazzi on themselves. 371 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,280 They just, like, are one of those rare cases where they're 372 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,800 victims to it. Yeah, I feel like. 373 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,000 I kind of remembered that, like, seeing a lot of them in 374 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:41,480 magazines back in the day. A lot. 375 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,200 But yeah, I agree. I feel like because him and Jlo 376 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,640 were so publicized and then the fact that like, Oh my gosh, now 377 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,520 he's with Jennifer Garner, you know, and it it seems like such 378 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,440 an opposite relationship in a way. 379 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,360 I feel like that was very interesting to people and they 380 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:57,720 were huge. I mean, people were super 381 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,160 invested in them, maybe because of the, like, seemingly good 382 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,520 girl, bad boy thing. Like, is this going to work? 383 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,440 Like what's going on with them, you know? 384 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,480 But also later Jen said that she lived in a neighborhood with a 385 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,920 ton of other actors, like why not just live somewhere else? 386 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,240 The like the reason this paparazzi was there was because 387 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,840 they knew where everybody lived and they knew they could get 388 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,160 like a listers left and right in this neighborhood. 389 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,960 So I kind of think it was also related to not being more 390 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:33,120 private area. And why do that? 391 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:35,120 It's just like Brentwood is so amazing. 392 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:37,440 They just can't not be there. I don't know. 393 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:43,200 Then they gave birth to their second daughter on January 6th, 394 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,040 2009. Their daughter Sarahfina Rose 395 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:51,640 Elizabeth Affleck. Then the two purchased an 8800 396 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,120 square foot home in the LA neighborhood of Pacific 397 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:59,760 Palisades for $17.5 million. Wow. 398 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:05,840 OK, so then it's December, and Jen's stalker was arrested for 399 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,840 violating his restraining order after he showed up outside their 400 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,000 daughter's school. Their daughter's Violet's 401 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,720 nursery school. And he was. 402 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,720 That's so. Creepy. 403 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,560 Yeah. He was threatening to cut the 404 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,960 baby out of Jen's belly and murder their unborn child. 405 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,640 OK. Yeah. 406 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,680 So this like obviously greatly affected the couple. 407 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,400 And I think they're super private, which is kind of crazy 408 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,440 because I feel like Jennifer Lopez is not. 409 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,440 So I don't want to pit these women against each other. 410 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,960 I I feel bad like Jlo is public with her kids. 411 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,480 She has her daughter Emmy on stage with her when she's 412 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,120 performing at the Super Bowl. But the Affleck family is like 413 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:50,240 very, very private with their kids and protective of them, 414 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:52,600 which is an interesting difference. 415 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,320 That definitely is the downside of fame. 416 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,400 I feel like so many people experience a creepy stalker. 417 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,680 Yeah, just just. Happens. 418 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,680 I mean, honestly, they must have to have 24/7 security all the 419 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,160 time. That's truly scary. 420 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,040 Oh, it's horrifying. Sorry. 421 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,120 Keep in trouble. Really. 422 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,720 Oh no. I think it really affected them. 423 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,640 Three months after that happened, a judge ruled that the 424 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,280 stalker was insane and had he was sent to a mental hospital 425 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,840 rather than prison, and he was ordered to stay away from the 426 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,640 Affleck family for 10 years if and when he was released. 427 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,120 Which is like why not just for life I? 428 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,360 Know why? 10 years It's going to happen. 429 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,360 In 10 years they're going to get lunch together. 430 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,320 Like, why would they ever want to see him again? 431 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,920 Seriously. And I don't know what happened, 432 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,480 if he was ever released, but he doesn't come up again, that's 433 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,800 good. Which is good, I guess. 434 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,280 But later Ben actually said that this incident prompted him to 435 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,640 become very protective of his family, obviously, and that he 436 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,320 owns several guns because of it. Whoa. 437 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,520 Yeah. We can't imagine. 438 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,760 OK, now it's 2010. Around this time I do have to 439 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,040 say what there were like weird reports that maybe something was 440 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,720 happening between Ben and his Co star from the town, Blake 441 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,200 Lively. But I feel like I've heard that 442 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,920 before. Yeah, I just couldn't find 443 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,920 anything that could be tangible. But my name kept coming up and I 444 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,520 don't know, I just I thought it should include it possibly. 445 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:35,480 It does seem like he might have a wandering eye, so that in 446 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:40,600 2012, skipping ahead, their son Samuel was born in February and 447 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,280 then an October band was on the cover of The Hollywood Reporter. 448 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,720 And about Jen, he said she truly is kind. 449 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,320 She means no one any harm. She doesn't have ill will for 450 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,760 any person. She's not competitive with other 451 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,400 people. She's not spiteful. 452 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,240 It's one of those things where it becomes almost aggravating at 453 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,040 times. Every time I go fuck him, I see 454 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,600 in her face that she thinks that's petty and small, which I 455 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:11,040 have to say, like, I think not to assume, but I almost think 456 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,720 that a big conflict in their relationship is that she is such 457 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,320 a good person. She's so mature and he just 458 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,600 can't measure up. Yeah, she is too good for him. 459 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,600 She does seem like such a good person. 460 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,760 I get what he's saying. Sometimes I can be frustrating 461 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,200 and sometimes I feel like I do that on the other side too. 462 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,080 Like, I don't know. But sometimes you do want to 463 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,040 complain about somebody and then someone else is like, Oh well, 464 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:40,840 you know. Nice. 465 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:43,920 Yeah. I understand it can't be 466 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,400 frustrating, but I think the reason it's frustrating is 467 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,240 because you kind of know the person's right and you're like, 468 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,560 you know, you're just grumpy about it. 469 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,720 That is nice, to hear him say, because I've always felt like 470 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,720 she seemed very sweet. But like I wasn't sure if that 471 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,880 was true. You know, I never really dug too 472 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,640 deep, but I. Feel like I've seen other things 473 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,360 with people saying she's she's not as sweet as you think she 474 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:09,640 is. Like I'm I believe she's sweet. 475 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,240 I bet if people have had negative interactions with her, 476 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,920 maybe they were being rude or? Yeah, I mean, she is human. 477 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,320 Yeah. Can't expect her to be, like, 478 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:25,240 completely sweet all the time. I know. 100 out of 100 things 479 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,040 that she experiences in a day, she is always an Angel. 480 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,360 Like, probably not, but. Yeah, exactly. 481 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,800 I mean, and one of the profiles I was reading of her, the 482 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,720 interviewer said that she was like, unexpectedly curt, like 483 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760 when he approached her because she didn't know that he was the 484 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,040 interviewer. But like it in the interview, it 485 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,320 seemed like he was soliciting her for something like, yeah, 486 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,120 I'm not super friendly when people approach me on the street 487 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:54,960 because sometimes if you're friendly, people take advantage 488 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,520 of it. So you have to be like. 489 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,400 And she is famous. She has to have somewhat of a 490 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,480 guard up, especially given that she had a stalker. 491 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,880 I don't know if it's happened after the. 492 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:10,520 Stalker, but exactly you have to honestly as a self-defense. 493 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,680 You have to be rude sometimes to people to strangers if if people 494 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,480 are are like making you feel uncomfortable or strangers for 495 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,160 your safety sometimes. Well, there's a difference 496 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,680 between being curt and being rude, I. 497 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,800 Think exactly, Yeah, yeah, it's not friendly, like, yeah, not 498 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,680 engaging with people sometimes if they're trying to stop you 499 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,960 and talk to you. So in the same interview, he 500 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,520 said that he does casually keep in touch with his exes and they 501 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,400 congratulate each other over e-mail about career endeavours. 502 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,480 Or it's. E-mail. 503 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,760 Updates with each other. I love hearing about people 504 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,800 emailing. I know, I know. 505 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,720 I mean e-mail was like, that's how he wooed Jennifer Garner in 506 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,480 the 1st place. So then it's 2013 and Benna's 507 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,520 doing the award show rounds for his film Argo, which he directed 508 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,640 and for all these different awards. 509 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,320 And Jenna's very supportive of him throughout the campaign. 510 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,280 And when he won the Golden Globe for directing, he kissed her. 511 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,520 And then in his speech, he said, I just want to thank my three 512 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,160 kids, Violet, Sam and Sarah. I love you guys. 513 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,600 And I want to thank my wife, who's the reason I'm standing 514 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,720 here. I adore you. 515 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,440 I love you so much. Thanks for sitting through this. 516 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,280 You're my everything. What? 517 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,440 Happened. I know you'll find out. 518 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:42,640 So then Ben won the Best Picture Academy Award for directing for 519 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,800 Argo, and he thanked Jen in his acceptance speech. 520 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,000 And this was kind of controversial, actually. 521 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,080 And that's the first clip. Why? 522 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,240 I guess I'll see. Here I go. 523 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,920 In the movie on the movie worked on the movie. 524 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,680 Did anything with this movie gets thanked? 525 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,600 I want to thank Canada. I want to thank our, our, our, 526 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,360 our friends in in Iran living in a in a in a terrible 527 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,080 circumstances right now. I want to thank my wife, who I 528 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,280 don't normally associate with Iran, but I want to thank you 529 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,920 for working on our marriage for, you know, 10 Christmases. 530 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,640 It's it's it's good. It is work, but it's the best 531 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,280 kind of work. And there's no one I'd rather 532 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,480 work with. So Violet, Sam, and Sarah, I 533 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,560 love you. Oh my gosh. 534 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,480 Oh my. He's so emotional, So much 535 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,160 emotion going on. Him choking up over his his 536 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,400 daughter or his daughters and son is so sweet. 537 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,840 OK, I'm. I know that I I don't know if I 538 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,520 can talk. I mean, if I won an Oscar, I 539 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,640 probably would lose it, but I know people get really nervous. 540 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,800 But he seemed like so spastic up there. 541 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,720 Oh my goodness. Very overwhelmed. 542 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,480 I mean, maybe it's 'cause like he's winning for director. 543 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,200 That's a. Huge didn't work, but maybe. 544 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,640 But so people took issue with him that what he said about 545 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,600 Jennifer Garner wasn't super romantic. 546 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,600 Like saying it's a lot of work. Yeah. 547 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,320 People thought that was like kind of negative. 548 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,080 What do you think about? That, Yeah, it did seem 549 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,240 negative. Yeah, it wasn't romantic. 550 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,680 I guess he had already. What award was it that before 551 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,840 that he won? The Golden Globes? 552 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,240 That was pretty romantic, yeah. Maybe he had already kind of 553 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,160 used. He didn't want to repeat 554 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,920 himself. I don't know. 555 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,760 He'd already used his romance up. 556 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,160 I mean, whatever. More people watch the Oscars, I 557 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,920 think, than the Golden Globes. Anyways, who cares? 558 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,600 But yeah, that was weird. It was a weird choice. 559 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,640 It did seem like he was making it up on the spot, yeah. 560 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,320 It maybe. He really is just like such a he 561 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,240 thinks he is kind of a piece of shit or like he is low, thinking 562 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,400 lowly of himself and that she does seem to keep putting up 563 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,440 with it and I'm really reading and do it here. 564 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,560 But maybe that's what's coming to mind as he's up there. 565 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,960 I don't know that, like, thank you for working on it with me. 566 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,880 I don't, I don't know. But yeah, that is that. 567 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,840 Is upsetting. You might never be up on that 568 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,800 stage again. And I know. 569 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,000 This is your one opportunity to say something to someone who's 570 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,360 raising your children while you're directing a film. 571 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,480 You could say something a little bit more. 572 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,200 It's where it is. Work. 573 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,840 I'm gonna work with you, not You could just say, like my wife, I 574 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,160 love you and then move on. You don't even have to. 575 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,160 Yeah, exactly. Elaborate on it. 576 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,320 Yeah. And so it made people sense that 577 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,320 there was maybe tension in their relationship. 578 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,880 And so that's, yeah, definitely the next clip I have for you. 579 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,480 When Ben was on SNL, they actually addressed this in his 580 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,000 monologue. OK. 581 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,320 And I can tell you that while winning an Oscar was a huge 582 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,600 thrill, giving an Oscar acceptance speech is completely 583 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,040 terrifying. And you may remember that in my 584 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,040 speech, I thank my wife while also saying that the essence of 585 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,800 marriage is work. And we've worked together on our 586 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,480 marriage. And then some uncharitable souls 587 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,120 on the Internet took that to mean that, you know, some our 588 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,080 marriage is some kind of manual labor. 589 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,240 That's not. No, that's not it. 590 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,520 You know you define what's important to you by what you 591 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,560 dedicate your time to. And my wife knew exactly what I 592 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,720 meant. And so to disprove, disprove the 593 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,680 naysayers, I asked her to come in here tonight. 594 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:47,840 Jen. So now would you just Are you 595 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,520 alright? Would you just now dispel this 596 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,640 notion and tell the people what I meant by marriage's? 597 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,440 Work. Yes, I will. 598 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,960 Well, yeah, it's it's a way that we talk privately about how 599 00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,960 committed we are to our marriage. 600 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,640 Yes, right. See that? 601 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,160 Not sure why you had to share it live to a billion people, but I 602 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,720 mean. But I mean our our, our marriage 603 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,920 is the work of love. What would you have called it in 604 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,280 a speech? A gift. 605 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,920 I would have said thank you to my wife. 606 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:18,719 Our marriage is a gift. You know, that's one way to go. 607 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,920 I guess I because you know, it's it's a gift to to the work of 608 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,120 marriage, which you gifted me with enormous work, to be 609 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:29,600 completely honest. Well, if we're going to be 610 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,000 completely honest here, why don't we just go ahead and 611 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,280 mention who does all of the work? 612 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,480 That's too inside that. People don't want to hear that. 613 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,159 You see. I'll tell you what, though. 614 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,120 I want to tell you how I wish I had ended that speech, OK. 615 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,480 I couldn't do any of the things I do without your support. 616 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,159 You're my Angel, my life and my world. 617 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:59,640 You're reading that? I mean, yeah, but you know it's 618 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,640 true. I love you. 619 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:08,040 Thank you, you're a lot of work. He's cute. 620 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,400 Yeah. He's reading it. 621 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,480 He did seem nervous. I feel like he's not a stage 622 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,320 performer. No, I feel like he's not. 623 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,200 Yeah. I feel like he's very nervous on 624 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,080 stage. I mean, he's he's some very, 625 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,560 like, troubled person. Like, I think he does have very 626 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,440 bad anxiety. But I kind of feel bad for 627 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,880 Jennifer Garner. Like, we haven't gotten to this 628 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,640 point yet. But I feel like she just, like, 629 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,480 knows her worth and knows how she's supposed to be treated and 630 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,440 like how a husband should be. And Ben is just a little 631 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,320 immature. Yeah, the idea of like, oh, it's 632 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,640 work. And like I have to live up to 633 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,480 her expectations. It kind of paints her to seem 634 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,360 like she's high maintenance or NIT picky, but like she just is 635 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,280 asking for what she deserves in the relationship. 636 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,640 I agree. I yeah, I don't know. 637 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,920 I doubt she is that NIT picky or anything. 638 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,680 Oh, that is a different situation, Yeah. 639 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,840 I do think they are work for sure. 640 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,880 Yes. Yeah. 641 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,560 I mean, we don't know what exactly, at least yet. 642 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,520 We don't know what exactly is going on. 643 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,800 And it does seem like they're joking. 644 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,400 You know, it's almost kind of like the gypsy rose, like leaves 645 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,400 a toilet seat up thing, like it seems all in good fun. 646 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,480 You do wonder, like what is what is happening? 647 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,560 Is there any truth behind this? Yeah. 648 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,120 I feel like it does make people sense tension and I feel like 649 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,720 we're like gas relationships are work. 650 00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:41,240 But like some couples, for some couples, it doesn't seem as like 651 00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,080 they're happy to do the work, you know? 652 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,480 Whereas right, him saying that is like sensing a little bit of 653 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,280 pulling teeth to get him to be doing whatever he should be 654 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,320 doing. It was a joke with her saying 655 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,840 who's the one that does the work? 656 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,240 I know, yeah. I don't know if it's going to 657 00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:03,000 last. So then in August of that year 658 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:08,240 in 2013, Jen was on the cover of Allure magazine and she said 659 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:10,760 that she doesn't want to be known as just the wife of Ben 660 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,360 Affleck. And also in 2013, just side 661 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,360 note, Jen joined Halle Berry to campaign for strict anti 662 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,360 paparazzi laws. And I like to protect children 663 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,880 and I think they were like really successful with this and 664 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,680 kind of changed the game for a lot of celebrity parents. 665 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,640 And at that point, she said that there are 15 photographers 666 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,240 outside of her house all at all times and it seems like that was 667 00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,600 just a huge stress on the whole family. 668 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,160 But I agree. I feel like since then it's 669 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,800 become bigger concern. I feel like I've seen 670 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,120 publications, you know, blur children's faces and such. 671 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,480 So yeah, that's that's. Important, but again, like even 672 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,840 that little thing like that. I know Ben's probably busy 673 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,240 directing and stuff, but first of all, Jen's an actress too. 674 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,240 She's doing the work to protect her children with these anti 675 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,400 paparazzi laws. Who knows why Ben's not joining 676 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,720 her again? Like, she's really holding 677 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:07,200 things down at home and protecting her children. 678 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,720 Women, women just get shit done. I know, I know. 679 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,360 So then, it's 2014. The Affleck family is scheduled 680 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,400 to spend most of the summer in Detroit while Ben films Batman, 681 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,200 and around this time, the tabloids begin reporting that 682 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,520 Ben maybe has been slipping back into old habits, including 683 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,400 gambling and drinking and maybe even cheating. 684 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,760 Very. Frustrated, Jen is tasked with 685 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,280 taking care of their kids and following him around while he 686 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,040 shoots his movies, so she's kind of put her career on hold for 687 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,760 him at this point to take care of their family. 688 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:51,360 Does feel that way? Meanwhile, Ben's former friend 689 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,960 Kevin Smith is asked whether they're still friends and he 690 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,440 said at Comic Con. Great question. 691 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,640 I don't know because we're not fucking tight. 692 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,880 I have not been close to him in decades. 693 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,720 That's old Ben. He's got a wife that don't care 694 00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:07,960 for me at all. And plus, honestly, he probably 695 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,560 don't care for me at all anymore. 696 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,120 And then he also was asked about this at when he was like doing 697 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,320 an appearance at Carnegie Hall. And he said Jennifer does not 698 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,480 share the same sense of humor as me. 699 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,840 She did not like my jokes. I was picking on Ben Affleck, 700 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,160 making fun of him because I've known him for a really long 701 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,920 time. I was talking smack. 702 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,000 And Jennifer goes, you know, if you keep saying stuff about him, 703 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,360 I'm going to kick your ass. And she could. 704 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,320 I've seen Alias. She has a really girly sense of 705 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,720 humor and didn't understand that I was kidding. 706 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:40,320 I remember talking to Ben and being like, I know your lady is 707 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,640 not finding me amusing. Ben, I've known you for years 708 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,680 and you are far sicker than I am. 709 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,960 His jokes are way dirtier than mine. 710 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,560 He he made jokes to me and I've been like, Ben, you need to go 711 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,200 to church, which I I feel like it's like alluding to like, Jen 712 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,440 maybe being uptight and getting in the way of Ben's 713 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,320 relationships, or like being strict with him about his sense 714 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,720 of humor. I don't know what to think about 715 00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,440 that, cause like I I mean, they do have like kids. 716 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,280 I could see at some point being like, you have to grow up, you 717 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,640 can't be like, making jokes like this. 718 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,480 But maybe Jen is a little too wholesome for him, if that's the 719 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:23,160 way he naturally is. And I don't know what's what's 720 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,160 wrong. I don't think you have to be the 721 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,520 same person. This might be controversial. 722 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,040 I don't think you have to be the same person in front of 723 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,520 everybody. Like, why does Kevin Smith have 724 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,280 to be acting that way when he's with his wife? 725 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,840 I feel like that's more of a bro whatever. 726 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,360 And he's kind of implying, like, Jen doesn't even know him, like 727 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,440 he tells the dirtiest jokes. Well, maybe he just doesn't do 728 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,880 it in front of her and that's OK. 729 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,400 Like he can maybe be raunchy with his friends and then he's a 730 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,640 dependable husband with his wife. 731 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,080 I don't know, I don't see anything wrong with. 732 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,160 That's I would think that's disrespectful to be raunchy in 733 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,160 front of your wife, like making like dirty sexual jokes about 734 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,400 people. If your lady is present, that's 735 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,720 like really rude. I just think that's amateur of 736 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:12,560 Kevin Smith to be expecting the same type of like antics as when 737 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,920 they were young, like now that he's a married father with kids. 738 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:21,120 Yeah, it seems like Ben was maybe trying to grow up in Kevin 739 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,640 Smith didn't want to, and so they grew apart. 740 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,280 Yeah, that's what's interesting is it seems like it is not just 741 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,640 Ben who maybe lost some friends in this relationship. 742 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,680 At around the same time. Mark Ruffalo went on Andy 743 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,600 Cohen's show Watch What Happens Live and he said that him and 744 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,880 Jen were very tight. He was saying that him and Jen 745 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,920 were very close while filming 13, going on 30, but then he 746 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,440 said then Ben Affleck came on the scene and that was the end 747 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,800 of that, and Andy asked if he thinks that Ben doesn't allow 748 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,400 Jen to have male friends and Mark just shrugged. 749 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,080 So that's interesting. That is interesting. 750 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,120 Then in September, Jan was on the cover of In Style and she 751 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,920 was asked about Ben's Oscar speech when he said the marriage 752 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,000 was work. And she said you can't expect to 753 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,680 be courted all the time and I don't want him to court me right 754 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,400 now. I don't have the energy, but 755 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,400 we're definitely in a very mindful place where we're making 756 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,840 an effort to be together and do things the same time and be 757 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,440 loving. And she also said when we had 758 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,440 our first child, we had only been together a year, we were 759 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,160 babies. It happened so fast. 760 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,360 I hardly remember what we were like before the kids got here. 761 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,000 Now we're just starting to go away for a night here and there, 762 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,200 which I do see that being a stress on the relationship. 763 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,280 Like they really haven't been together one-on-one that long 764 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,480 before they had kids. So it did happen very quickly. 765 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,080 But about the parenting responsibilities, she said when 766 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,400 we had our first child, we had only been together a year. 767 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,080 Oh wait, I already just read that, she said. 768 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,080 She said for better or worse, I tend to be the one who says this 769 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,120 is what needs to happen. I know who wants what lunch. 770 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,560 I've done all the school paperwork and filled out the 771 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,400 emergency cards. Ben doesn't know that stuff 772 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,000 exists. He is in charge of laughter. 773 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,240 No matter how much to tickle them or toss them or chase them 774 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,400 around, it's not the same if I'm the slow, steady drum beat. 775 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,240 He's the Jazz. Feel like that is often the 776 00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:24,080 case. It is, it is. 777 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,880 But it is such an emotional burden that I feel like Jen 778 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,360 probably bears where I feel like if Ben gets mad about her 779 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,920 expecting more of him, like yeah, because she's doing all 780 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,880 the not fun stuff and he's like getting to come in and be the 781 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,320 fun jolly parent and the kids laugh and I. 782 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,000 Feel like that's so common, I know, but it is unfortunate. 783 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,480 So then it's 2015. And in May, just a month before 784 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,880 their 10th wedding anniversary, there are whispers that Ben and 785 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,640 Jen have separated and are headed for a divorce. 786 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,800 This is according to OK magazine and the National Enquirer. 787 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,440 We feel like we can't really always trust them, but it's 788 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,840 largely due to the fact that they haven't been photographed 789 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,040 together in over a month. And usually they're photographed 790 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,520 together like almost every day. And like off times, there's PDA 791 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,640 in the photographs too. Like they do seem really happy 792 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,280 together, so this is odd for the couple. 793 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,640 A source says that Jen's friends aren't big fans of Ben and that 794 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,320 Jen has been emotionally preparing for the end for a 795 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,560 while, seeing a therapist to learn how to cope with their 796 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,120 divorce and deal with the kids afterwards. 797 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,200 Man. Then I know, But you know what? 798 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,040 It's weird because it's like these tabloids. 799 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,640 We can't really trust them. But it actually was true and. 800 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,000 It's. Confirmed that they are 801 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,520 divorcing, which is like we can't trust tabloids. 802 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,320 They have to source their information somewhere. 803 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,440 I feel like sometimes they are kind of true. 804 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,960 Sometimes. So on their the day after their 805 00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:03,120 10th wedding anniversary, they're in the Bahamas on a 806 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,440 family vacation and they released a joint statement, 807 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,600 which this is kind of like Brad. And Jennifer Aniston. 808 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,440 Jennifer Aniston I think it's a little different because like, 809 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,400 they're on a family vacation, they're with their kids, but 810 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,040 it's still weird. Yeah, so strange. 811 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,920 I don't know. I think I'd rather just like, be 812 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,360 home. I wouldn't want to have to be in 813 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,080 the hotel room with. Them, Yeah. 814 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,480 It's just odd to be publicly acknowledging we are breaking up 815 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,800 and you're literally physically together. 816 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,520 Exactly. It's weird on a vacation like 817 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:42,600 that over, so they say. After much thought and careful 818 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,720 consideration, we have made the decision to divorce. 819 00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:48,960 We go forward with love and friendship for one another and a 820 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,920 commitment to Co parenting our children whose privacy we ask to 821 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,920 be respected during this difficult time. 822 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,440 This will be our only comment on the private family matter. 823 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:03,920 Thank you for understanding. So naturally, after the 824 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,120 separation, there's a lot of speculation about what was the 825 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,000 final straw, including a very popular theory that Ben had an 826 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,600 affair with their nanny, Christine Ozenian. 827 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,720 Heard of it? You've heard this? 828 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:23,680 Yeah, I've heard of it. Apparently, multiple sources 829 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,160 told People magazine that Christine, who is 28 years old 830 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,800 at this time, she was hired by the couple several months months 831 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,520 prior and she would watch their three kids. 832 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,680 And as soon as Jen went to film a movie, she started dressing 833 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:45,920 really provocatively and that her and Ben had an affair soon 834 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,440 after. And that she would show her 835 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,120 friends pictures of her and Ben together, including her sitting 836 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,840 on Ben's lap. We haven't seen the pictures, 837 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,280 but a source said that. Let's see. 838 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,440 OK, so Christine, actually, she had gone to join the couple on a 839 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,760 trip to the Bahamas. So this is the trip they went 840 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,480 off when they announced their separation. 841 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,280 And days after announcing their split, Ben left the family 842 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,320 vacation and he took a private trip to Las Vegas and Christine 843 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,960 went with him to a charity of charity poker event. 844 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,960 What the nanny, which I'm guessing it was, was unclear to 845 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,680 me, but I'm guessing the kids are still with Jen in the 846 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,600 Bahamas, so I don't know why the nanny has to go with him to the 847 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,680 poker event. I don't think the kids are going 848 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,640 to the poker event. I doubt. 849 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,520 It. I highly doubt it. 850 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,040 Sources said that there were other members of the family in 851 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,080 attendance on the the Jet plane that Christine was on, but I 852 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,000 don't think so, because who would that be? 853 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,200 I don't think it's the kids. There's no reason for her to be 854 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,280 there. And after the trip, Ben took a 855 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:59,920 private jet jet back to LA with Christine and actually Tom 856 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:04,760 Brady, and she posted a photo of her wearing Brady's Super Bowl 857 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:09,080 rings on the jet. So it's like 100% she was on the 858 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,000 jet. That does seem to me like 859 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,440 something's happening. Oh yeah, Why would he take his 860 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,920 nanny? There's no reason for that. 861 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,280 So then Christine stayed back in LA. 862 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:24,520 But weirdly, Ben returned to the Bahamas to be like, with Jen and 863 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,680 the kids again. And when he got there, Jen 864 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,880 seemingly found out that the nanny went with him to the poker 865 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,520 event. Like she thought she the nanny 866 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:39,840 was like, just going back to LA and so she fired her and could 867 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,600 yeah, wait, sorry. Yeah, so she fired the nanny. 868 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:49,640 And then in July of later that summer, the nanny was 869 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,240 photographed outside of Ben's rental house. 870 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,320 So, like, if she had confirmed the nanny, it's. 871 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,880 Yeah, something had to have happened, sources close to Jen 872 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,800 told people. There was always a speck of 873 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,280 doubt in Jen's mind about separating, but that's now gone. 874 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,960 She is very angry. To Jen, this is the ultimate 875 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,720 betrayal. The only reason why I have a 876 00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:14,280 little bit of doubt in my mind is because sources close to Ben 877 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:19,520 vehemently and aggressively deny any affair between him and 878 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,400 Christine. They're like very much saying 879 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,880 that he didn't cheat with the nanny, but obviously they would 880 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,000 say that they're his friends. Like it's a very bad look for 881 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,720 him. It's actually like such a 882 00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:32,920 heinous thing to do to cheat with your aunt. 883 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,200 Like Manny, such a cliche. It's like a soap opera. 884 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:44,280 Yeah, like someone taking care of your children who is hired by 885 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,240 you and your wife in your own house. 886 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:49,680 And she was already fired after when she was at the house. 887 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,840 I guess he could have kept employing her. 888 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,280 Yeah, I know. Yeah, that's true. 889 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,160 That actually that weirdly happened to me when I was a 890 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:01,200 nanny that the couple did get divorced, and then I was a nanny 891 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,080 for both of them separately, so that could. 892 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,680 They pay you separately. Yeah, I believe they did. 893 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,520 Yeah. Oh wow. 894 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,640 I know. But they. 895 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,200 I mean, the wife seemed fine with it. 896 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,000 Like, I don't. I think she liked this. 897 00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:17,240 I mean there is no I I was not involved in a divorce. 898 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,280 But yeah, I can't remember now, but I think I was paid 899 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,800 separately. Yeah, that was so awkward for 900 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:31,320 you in between the parents. I know, I mean, he could have 901 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,360 maybe maybe he like reached out to her and was like I still need 902 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,920 your help or something. But I just, I still think like 903 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,760 why on earth would she go on the private jet with him to the 904 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,400 poker Like that just seems inappropriate to me. 905 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,400 It's really inappropriate, but apparently sources close to her 906 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,720 said like, what was she going to do? 907 00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:50,560 Like he was her boss. Like she's invited to this 908 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,880 thing. It's like you don't have to go, 909 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,760 You can just say no. But so it's unfortunate because 910 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,480 sources close to Ben are kind of putting the blame on Jennifer, 911 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,280 claiming that she was always nitpicking everything that he 912 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,360 did and made him feel inadequate as a husband. 913 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,440 But she's probably nitpicking things that are like, dude, you 914 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,480 shouldn't be doing this. Like we have a family, you 915 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,400 shouldn't be cheating with the nanny. 916 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,920 That's kind of a low bar, but I also will say this nanny, it 917 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,840 seemed like she I hate to say this, but like she looked like 918 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,200 an influencer. And apparently after the affair 919 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,960 she was like trying to become a reality TV star. 920 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,400 So IA 100% believe that she probably was trying to become 921 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,000 famous for. Yeah. 922 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,920 Ben Affleck wasn't like just this, like. 923 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,400 Poor me, Like innocent girl, Like random girl. 924 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:50,760 No, but Okay, I will say not to blame Jennifer Gardner at all. 925 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,720 I don't blame her at all. But if your husband kind of 926 00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:58,120 already has a wandering eye, why would you hire like? 927 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:03,920 I know nanny was like lip injection, like like a hot 928 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,560 nanny. I wouldn't hire like a Mrs. 929 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,280 Doubtfire nanny. Or who Who is the nanny on Sex 930 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,200 in the City that oh. Yeah. 931 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,920 Yeah, Max hire like a 50 year old woman. 932 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:26,800 Yeah, not a 20 Botox. So I I think like some honestly 933 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,200 gone to my head. Something happened after after 934 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,640 the separation and apart from cheating rumors, sources tell 935 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,360 people that the split was a long time coming because the two are 936 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,200 very different people and the problems got bigger in their 937 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:48,160 marriage after a few years. Man I know sources blamed the 938 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,760 demands of Bens career and his social life saying Ben is a good 939 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,840 dad when he is around but he has so many outside interests and 940 00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,280 personal issues to get beyond. It had become a bigger problem 941 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,360 than either had imagined. But even after their breakup, 942 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,040 Jen and Ben are very friendly and they seem very amicable. 943 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,200 They're photographed a lot together. 944 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,920 They go on a trip to Florida together to celebrate their 945 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,440 son's birthday, and in September they're photographed smiling 946 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:22,040 together in LA and they're seems going to church together every 947 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,760 single Sunday with the kids. So they're really putting on a 948 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,320 friendly face for the sake of their family. 949 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:33,520 How does yourself do that? I know I could not I, that would 950 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,880 be so hard, a source tells Eve. She has not forgiven him for 951 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,600 things that have happened, but she's committed to keeping the 952 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,920 children happy. But sometimes that means doing 953 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,560 what she would rather not do. Well, that's mature. 954 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,680 It it really is. Because honestly, if someone 955 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,720 dogged you like that, it would be hard to even be in the same 956 00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:55,080 room. It's actually reported that Ben 957 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,240 is staying in their guest house on the family property. 958 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,000 Wow. And they spend the holidays 959 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,680 together like they see each other every single day. 960 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,360 And according to sources, it's important that Ben is around the 961 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,880 kids for Jennifer and but that she's fed up and frustrated with 962 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,040 some of his choices, but that she also feels some relief 963 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,160 because she doesn't see him as her problem anymore. 964 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,000 Right. This kind of seemed like it was 965 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,000 a huge stress on her life. So yeah. 966 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:25,720 I don't. I don't know. 967 00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:29,200 I I hope I'm not too biased or like just because it's a woman 968 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,960 or whatever. But I I do believe that he 969 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,680 probably was a lot to deal with and. 970 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,000 Yeah, like a fourth child. And I feel like it's just, it is 971 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,920 a relief. Like if you have a relationship 972 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,160 where you're always worried about the other person, like, 973 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,320 are we going to make it work? Do they still want to be with 974 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,560 me? Like, are they going to cheat on 975 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,480 me? I feel like it is a relief to be 976 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,880 like, you know what? It's not my problem anymore. 977 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,440 Like they can do whatever they want. 978 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,520 It's not my responsibility. Like, they can live their own 979 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,880 life. So at the same time, though they 980 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,280 are very intertwined, he is still kind of her responsibility 981 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,000 because they have together, which is unfortunate. 982 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,440 Yeah, well, it's not unfortunate that they have kids. 983 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,800 You know, but he probably still frustrates her. 984 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,920 Yeah, she still has to worry about him because she has to 985 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,160 worry. Like, is he being a good dad for 986 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,600 my kids? Yeah. 987 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:25,720 So it's 2016 now and it seems like Ben and Jen are very close, 988 00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:28,760 even though they're not romantically together and 989 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,880 they're doing things together all the time. 990 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,800 Like I like I said, like he lives on the property, they're 991 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,440 living together, which would be hard. 992 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,720 But I I feel like a lot of couples do that. 993 00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:42,880 Like, they have a transitional period where they're still like, 994 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,760 it's like they go to events together. 995 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,760 Like, they go to funerals, they go to weddings together. 996 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,560 But like, they're not a married couple. 997 00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:51,680 Actually, they're still technically married, but they're 998 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,920 not romantic together. In February of 2016, Dan was on 999 00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,400 the cover of Vanity Fair, and she said it was a real marriage. 1000 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,320 It wasn't for the cameras. And it was a huge priority for 1001 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,600 me to stay in it. And it did not work. 1002 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,760 And she adds, I didn't marry the big fat movie star. 1003 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,200 I married him. And I would go back and remake 1004 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,120 that decision. I ran down the beach to him and 1005 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,600 I would do it again. You can't have these three 1006 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,160 babies and so much of what we had. 1007 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,920 He's the love of my life. He's the most brilliant person 1008 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,120 in any room, the most charismatic, the most generous. 1009 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,000 He's just a complicated guy. I always say when the sun shines 1010 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,840 on you, you feel it. But when the sun is shining 1011 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,160 elsewhere, it's cold. He can cast quite a shadow. 1012 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,320 That's sad, she said. He's the love of my life. 1013 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,240 I know, I know. Now it's. 1014 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,280 Over watch. It's really sad. 1015 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,120 In the same interview, she actually defended him and 1016 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,400 refuted rumors that the nanny got in the way of their 1017 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,800 marriage, saying we had been separated for months before I 1018 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,320 ever heard about the nanny. She had nothing to do with our 1019 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,200 decision to divorce. She was not part of the equation 1020 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,200 but judgement. Yeah, it's not great for your 1021 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,560 kids, for a nanny to disappear from their lives. 1022 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,440 OK, so it sounds like something did happen, but it and yeah, 1023 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,360 totally. And it happened after they were 1024 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,680 already separated, which I guess it already seemed like it, but 1025 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,520 yeah. Even if they're separated, like 1026 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,200 the nanny is off limits, like that's so low. 1027 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,960 Sleep with someone else, like some random person from like a 1028 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,400 club or some other celebrity. Like you don't have to sleep 1029 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,440 with the woman taking care of your children in your home that 1030 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,480 you both share together. He cannot control himself. 1031 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,840 No, that's so low. That's like unforgivable. 1032 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,400 So. That seems like a confirmation 1033 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,480 though. Oh yeah, totally. 1034 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,640 I believe it. So he was asked about Jen 1035 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,680 opening up in the New York Times, and he said she felt that 1036 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,280 she wanted to discuss it and get it out there and get it over 1037 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,840 with so she could say, look, I already talked about it, I don't 1038 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,200 want to do it again. It's fine. 1039 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,520 She's allowed to talk about it. Jen's great. 1040 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,360 She's a great person. We're on great terms, OK? 1041 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,440 Meanwhile, sources are reporting to people that Ben, who has 1042 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:16,360 seldom ever been single in his life, doing well and is trying 1043 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,680 to win Jen back. But Jen isn't ready or willing. 1044 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,160 But the family is spending the whole summer together in Europe 1045 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,600 while Ben films the Justice League, and they're reportedly 1046 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,160 having a great time, like traveling to different European 1047 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,000 countries together and having a lot of fun. 1048 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,880 I feel like it's probably kind of confusing that for the kids. 1049 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,840 I mean, it's really mature, but they are a very nuclear family 1050 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,160 unit at this point, even though they're not together. 1051 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,200 If that's true, that he's trying to win her back, that's just so 1052 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,360 confusing. Yeah. 1053 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:51,040 So hard, I think. Yeah, he's literally with her 1054 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,920 all the time. And like, even in August, the 1055 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,640 family took a trip to Montana to celebrate his birthday, which I 1056 00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,560 feel like, wow, didn't have to go to that. 1057 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,880 But after the trip, they're back in LA and Jen and Ben were 1058 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,880 photographed by paparazzi, where it seems like they're having a 1059 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,640 very serious conversation and Janet's actually wiping away 1060 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,720 tears while Ben looks visibly upset with her. 1061 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,800 Wow, they definitely deep connection, you know, despite 1062 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,000 everything. Like they definitely really know 1063 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,160 each other. Oh, yeah, you definitely would. 1064 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,200 Yeah. Have three kids together. 1065 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,600 You've been married. It is interesting. 1066 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,280 I I feel like I did hear a lot of reports around that time 1067 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,800 that, like, Ben is not ready to move on and a spoiler. 1068 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,280 But it takes them a long time to officially divorce, and I do 1069 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,200 wonder if it's because he's like struggling with mental health 1070 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,960 and like addiction problems and it was just too painful for him. 1071 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,560 Maybe. But it seems like this divorce 1072 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,040 was like, I don't know, I don't think any divorce is easy, but I 1073 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,320 feel like sometimes celebrities make it seem like it is. 1074 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,960 It seems like this was like, this was very hard, like they 1075 00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,360 couldn't just rip the Band-Aid off. 1076 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,640 Like it took a really long time to like adjust to the idea. 1077 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,440 Of their family breaking up. But so that now it's 2017. 1078 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,240 So this is like almost two years from when they announced their 1079 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,960 separation. Jen officially filed for divorce 1080 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,720 from Ben. But Ben in March. 1081 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,840 Sources tell people and people is pretty reputable. 1082 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,760 Like I usually trust them. The sources say that Jen has 1083 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,160 decided to call off the divorce and that she is willing to give 1084 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,800 what Ben and their marriage a second try. 1085 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,880 Mm hmm. I know about. 1086 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,640 That ads there, the source says. There is always a chance of 1087 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,720 reconciliation. They love each other. 1088 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,360 They also really, really love their kids and those kids love 1089 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,920 their parents. I think a part of it too with 1090 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,600 like divorce in this situation is it's not just getting 1091 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:52,040 divorced from your partner, but like the idea of being a broken 1092 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,000 family and like some that. Is so hard. 1093 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,680 Nobody wants like, most of. Yeah. 1094 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,520 And most of us don't think that that will happen to us. 1095 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:06,040 And I feel like it probably does feel like a failure to subject 1096 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:11,080 your kids to that. Yeah, I I think sometimes it's 1097 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,440 hard too when like, you do still love each other. 1098 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,400 You can then question like, wait, why are we doing this? 1099 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,080 Like, let's just let's just be together, but then you keep 1100 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,720 running. Into the same problems, 1101 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,440 especially if it's painful to like think about the other 1102 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,600 person with someone else, or to think about not being together 1103 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,320 going to bed every night. But like, it's almost like when 1104 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,880 you have kids, you have to be more sure of those decisions. 1105 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,040 You can't like be an off and on couple because that's more 1106 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,280 confusing for your kids, so. Yeah. 1107 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,000 But the idea of reconciliation was really short lived, because 1108 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,800 then in April, the two both officially filed papers together 1109 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,880 to end their marriage, and in May, Ben officially moved out of 1110 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,440 the guesthouse. Then in September, Ben 1111 01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:00,560 apparently had relapsed and his alcohol addiction and Jen and 1112 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:05,200 Casey Affleck, Ben's brother, helped stage an intervention and 1113 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,200 check him into an inpatient rehab facility for a few days. 1114 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,280 Oh. Gosh. 1115 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,120 I know at this time Ben, though, is moving on. 1116 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:18,840 He has started dating SNL producer Lindsay Shukus, who she 1117 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,920 previously dated Seth Meyers, and it's now being reported at 1118 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:27,680 this time in 2017 that actually Lindsay and Ben maybe had an 1119 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,040 affair back in 2013. What? 1120 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,400 I don't know. What's going on there? 1121 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,680 Interesting. But at this same time, Jen gave 1122 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,120 an interview and said that she hasn't gone on a date with 1123 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,120 anyone since the two announced their split two years ago. 1124 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,280 I know. Sucks. 1125 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,960 I feel like he's already been with two people that we know 1126 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,560 about and she's still. I know, single. 1127 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,520 Just prioritizing the kids and probably him. 1128 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,840 And she's probably telling her friends like, I just can't date, 1129 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,560 right? Now like I know. 1130 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,360 Do you think that like, she might have had somewhat of a 1131 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,240 saviour complex or like not complex but like? 1132 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,480 Yeah. That seems like they're dynamic 1133 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,000 a little bit, that she's like this Angel and he's this 1134 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,920 troubled man and. Yeah, I mean, at a certain point 1135 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,360 you have to walk away from that like it. 1136 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,040 I feel like it would just be so taxing on her. 1137 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,000 But you can't honestly in real life, like you can't do the bad 1138 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,800 boy good girl thing like I've like. 1139 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,600 I know. The bad. 1140 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,040 I can change him. Yeah, you can't. 1141 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,520 It's a cute trope, it really is, but it just doesn't work. 1142 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,520 Yeah, if we have any young listeners. 1143 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,640 Listening. Yeah, you can't change him. 1144 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,400 No, you can never change him. Take him as he is. 1145 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,040 Don't take him at all. Yep. 1146 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,640 Know your worth. If you're too good for him, you 1147 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,280 are too good and find somebody better. 1148 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,400 Or if you're willing to change and just go down to his level, 1149 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,600 go. Ahead, but yeah, so in 2018, 1150 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,920 things seem to be getting worse for Ben and Jen is very worried 1151 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,040 about him and he's apparently drinking all the time and. 1152 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,680 Oh, no, he's. In and out of rehab. 1153 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,640 And I do wonder if it's because of the divorce and because of 1154 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:26,440 the shame of feeling like he brought the divorce upon himself 1155 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,440 with the cheating and his habits. 1156 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,840 And I don't know, it's it seems like he is spiraling. 1157 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,240 And at one point he even crashed his motorcycle on his way to 1158 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,480 church. And on another occasion, he and 1159 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,720 Jen were spotted arguing with each other outside of their 1160 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:46,080 son's basketball game. And Jen is like very worried 1161 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,280 that their kids are going to lose their father, that he's 1162 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:53,560 going to die very stressed. This is also the time when he 1163 01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,520 was photographed on the beach looking very sad with that 1164 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,680 really infamous big back tattoo that he has. 1165 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:08,600 So I know it's it's like, not looking good. 1166 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,440 Jennifer was actually asked about that tattoo by Vanity 1167 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,080 Fair, and she said, you know what we would say in my hometown 1168 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:17,840 about that plus his heart. Oh. 1169 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:24,000 My gosh. Bless his heart, Ben. 1170 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:29,160 Ben is really some shade she's really like. 1171 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,040 I know. Seriously. 1172 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,800 So sources also tell tabloids that Ben has begged Jennifer to 1173 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,400 get back together and that she was very close to considering it 1174 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,720 after lots of family counseling, but ultimately couldn't see them 1175 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,880 working out their issues because of his addiction issues, and 1176 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,760 that she was just ready to move on at this point. 1177 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,600 That's hard. But I could see if he's in a 1178 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,200 really bad place, you know, wanting to get back together 1179 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,480 with like this stable presence in his life that was his wife 1180 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,600 and go back to the way things were. 1181 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,520 It must be so hard for her because she I'm just guessing 1182 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,480 here, but I can imagine that she feels so frustrated like that 1183 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:14,200 she never even wanted her marriage to end and she is kind 1184 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,560 of the one deciding this, but it's like she never wanted this 1185 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,480 to happen. No, she was forced to break up 1186 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,880 with him because he couldn't be like the husband and the father 1187 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,680 that he needed to be and now he's like begging for her back. 1188 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,440 She's in a position where she has to reject him, but it's only 1189 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,080 because she knows that, like things aren't going to change. 1190 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,720 She deserves better now. It sucks. 1191 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,640 It still seems like they're on good terms, like they are going 1192 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,920 on vacations together and they are still spending a lot of time 1193 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,640 together as a family. In June, Jen posted a photo of 1194 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,840 Ben for Father's Day and she captioned it. 1195 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,840 Our kids are lucky to have a dad who looks at them the way you 1196 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,160 look at them and loves you the way you love of them. 1197 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,840 Hashtag Happy Father's Day. Hashtag 3 Lucky kids Hashtag 1198 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,320 Have a great day. So she's it does seem like she's 1199 01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,480 uplifting him a lot. Then in August, she was 1200 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:09,520 photographed driving a very visibly emotional Ben to rehab 1201 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:13,400 after she reportedly staged another intervention for him 1202 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:18,320 with his brother Casey. And at this time, the two were 1203 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,320 apparently weeks away from finalizing their divorce, but 1204 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:25,080 once again put that on hold because of his addiction issues. 1205 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:29,400 They still haven't. No, my goodness, 2018 now. 1206 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,880 So it's years later, and sources say that Ben has fallen off the 1207 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,920 wagon a while ago, but he recently got progressively worse 1208 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,920 and while he's in rehab, his mom actually stays with Jen and the 1209 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,160 kids. I'm not sure why. 1210 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,040 I'm guessing to either, like be close to her son or to just 1211 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,000 like, help out with the kids at home. 1212 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,120 But so it shows that, like, his whole family is like, very close 1213 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:54,080 with Jennifer too. So then in October of that year, 1214 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:58,640 after over three years of being separated, they officially 1215 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:02,960 divorced like a really long time, which shows to me just how 1216 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,920 painful this must have been for them. 1217 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,120 I don't think it had anything to do with finances or assets or 1218 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,040 custody. It just was hard for them to 1219 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,720 accept that they're divorced. But as part of their settlement, 1220 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,600 they agreed to meet with a family therapist on a monthly 1221 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,920 basis for the next six months. And at this time, Jen is 1222 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,960 actually now dating again. She has a new boyfriend, 1223 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:27,240 businessman John Miller, and Ben, I believe, is single for a 1224 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,080 brief period while he's working on his sobriety. 1225 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,319 That's good. OK, so just a little bit more. 1226 01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:37,439 In 2019, they actually sold their house to Adam Levine. 1227 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,000 Mentioned him a few episodes ago. 1228 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:45,279 They sold it to him for $32 million after it had been on the 1229 01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:49,040 market for four years. Their house apparently had a 1230 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,680 pool, a basketball court, a gym, a movie theater, and an art 1231 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,359 studio. Sounds sick. 1232 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,880 It's amazing. Must have been fun. 1233 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,160 So yeah, they're really friendly. 1234 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:05,120 After the divorce, Ben is always saying, like, how lucky he is 1235 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,880 and how lucky his kids are to have Jen as their mom and how 1236 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:12,560 wonderful she is as a person. On Mother's Day, he posted a 1237 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:17,319 photo of his mom and Jen saying happy Mother's Day to the two 1238 01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:20,240 incredible mothers who have shown me the meaning of love. 1239 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:27,439 And in October of 2019, Ben has been sober for several months, 1240 01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,720 but unfortunately it seems like he slipped up again on his 1241 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:35,200 sobriety on a random Saturday where he was seen visibly drunk 1242 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:40,920 at a charity masquerade ball. The next day he was seen 1243 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,920 visiting Jen, well, visiting the kids at Jen's house. 1244 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,080 And he was very open with paparazzi actually, and was 1245 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,520 like, yeah, I slipped up and then a few days later they took 1246 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,479 the kids trick or treating together. 1247 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,400 They also spent Thanksgiving together and they were 1248 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,680 photographed by paparazzi shortly after that, 1249 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,920 unfortunately again arguing outside of her house before she 1250 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:08,320 drove him to a hotel. And sources say that Jen's new 1251 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:12,360 boyfriend John has been her rock through all the stresses with 1252 01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:15,040 Ben and his addiction troubles at this time. 1253 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,080 It's tough like she's still dealing with him. 1254 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,840 And do I do feel for him. He obviously has some demons 1255 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,560 that he's really struggling with addiction. 1256 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,480 But I feel like you can just imagine being in her life and 1257 01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:29,240 hearing about this, like, oh, you got to drive me again. 1258 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:34,360 Like, Oh my God. I know it's like he is a fourth 1259 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:38,160 child to her. So then in 2020, it's February 1260 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,000 and Ben is interviewed by the New York Times and he talks a 1261 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,000 lot about his sobriety and what he's gone through over the past 1262 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,720 couple of years. And he says the biggest regret 1263 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,920 of my life is this divorce shame is really toxic. 1264 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,720 There is no positive byproduct of shame. 1265 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,200 It's just doing in a toxic hideous feeling of low self 1266 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,280 worth and self loathing does seem like the divorce, like 1267 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:03,760 really tore him up inside. And meanwhile he also went on 1268 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,440 Good Morning America and he said I never thought I was going to 1269 01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:08,560 get divorced. I didn't want to get divorced. 1270 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:10,920 I didn't want to be a divorced person. 1271 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,280 I really didn't want to be a split family with my children. 1272 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,880 And it upset me because it meant I wasn't who I thought I was. 1273 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,040 And that was so painful and so disappointing in myself. 1274 01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,080 I know. But also, like, makes you 1275 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,800 wonder, is it that he really wanted to stay with Jennifer? 1276 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,720 Or is it like, he just didn't want to get divorced? 1277 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,040 Right. And I I mean, it's probably a 1278 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,680 little, yeah. I It's really hard. 1279 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:39,280 But I I kind of disagree that nothing good comes from shame. 1280 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:43,480 I think it can be a good motivator to change and that. 1281 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:49,040 I mean, it's really hard but he can't change the past but he can 1282 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,320 try to change going forward. That is hard though. 1283 01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:53,440 Burden. Is your purpose. 1284 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:59,200 Your burden is your purpose. So you know, I mean if you 1285 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,120 didn't have that negative feeling telling you like, oh 1286 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,800 that you really fucked up, like he might never have the 1287 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,760 motivation to stop drinking so much or doing drugs. 1288 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,320 I'm not sure what he's doing and that could kill him, you know. 1289 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,520 If he doesn't stop you need to have some shame sometimes to 1290 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:19,240 stop like deadly habits. So, but I feel for him. 1291 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,160 It's he sounds really tortured about it. 1292 01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:26,440 I know at this point, though, he does begin dating his Deepwater 1293 01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:31,320 Co Star on a day Armas, which I honestly, I kind of think is a 1294 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,520 PR relationship. Like they're always like walking 1295 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,040 slowly in the street together. I don't know. 1296 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:39,880 Yeah. Oh my gosh. 1297 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,120 Imagine getting with him after all of this. 1298 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:43,880 It's just, Oh my, that would be. Scary. 1299 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,280 And she's young, She's in her 20s at this. 1300 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,320 Like too much baggage, way too much. 1301 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,640 Which is like, OK, I haven't covered Jlo's other 1302 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,760 relationships yet, but I believe that she got with Ben Affleck 1303 01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,200 very quickly after her and a rod broke up. 1304 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,040 Because it seemed like maybe a rod had been, like, sexting 1305 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,720 somebody else. Or like, I forget what it was, 1306 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,320 but like, it was like maybe he had cheated or or was just being 1307 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,640 a little shady, maybe not, didn't even cheat all the way. 1308 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,400 And then you're going to get with Ben like right after and 1309 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:19,440 then marry him like, girl, he cheated on his wife, his three 1310 01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:22,680 children with the nanny, and what do you think? 1311 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,160 He's going to be faithful to you. 1312 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,040 And he fell in love with that wife while he was with you. 1313 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:32,480 Exactly. Like, he's not going to be any 1314 01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:34,160 better. But you know what though? 1315 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:38,600 Sometimes this is a thing to get over someone. 1316 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,600 It does help to replace them with somebody else who will make 1317 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,160 you feel even worse. So maybe that's. 1318 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,680 Even worse. Yeah, if you're upset about 1319 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,520 someone, just be upset about somebody. 1320 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,080 Else, I mean, yeah, that's true. You will forget about the other 1321 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,000 person. Exactly. 1322 01:13:54,000 --> 01:14:00,280 It'll cure it, but at what cost? Yeah, So skipping ahead, 1323 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:04,040 Speaking of Jlo, in 2021 and May, Ben is very publicly 1324 01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,360 getting back together with her. And a source says that Jennifer 1325 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:11,360 Garner doesn't want to be a part of the media circus associated 1326 01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,600 with their relationship. And that she's just focused on 1327 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,280 their kids. And that she just hopes that Ben 1328 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,160 is a good father and that his life, love, life is not her 1329 01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,240 problem, which good for her, I think. 1330 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,040 I think honestly though, it would be kind of painful to be 1331 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,720 married to someone for 10 years. You have kids together and then 1332 01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,320 like even though you're moved on, not just to see them with 1333 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:37,000 someone else, but see them with their ex from before you would 1334 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,400 be kind of painful. I think so too. 1335 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,200 I think it would. Because I'm sure, like in the 1336 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:47,040 back of her mind, throughout their relationship, Jlo was an 1337 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,360 insecurity. Yeah, she probably always 1338 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:50,560 compared herself to. Her. 1339 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,520 Yeah. Because like you guys had this 1340 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:56,280 like huge famous relationship especially. 1341 01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:00,280 Since they seem different personality. 1342 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,760 Wise and they have the same name. 1343 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,600 And I've even, I don't know people, sometimes people think 1344 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,680 that like when someone dates somebody and then right after 1345 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,240 they date someone very similar, they think that that means 1346 01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:12,720 they're still obsessed with their ex or something. 1347 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,400 But I've also read people say, like if somebody dates a 1348 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:20,680 complete opposite of their ex, it kind of means they're like so 1349 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,320 upset about that or whatever that they're you know, trying to 1350 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,920 do the complete, you know, there's reacting so much to 1351 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,600 their ex that they're looking for someone totally different. 1352 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:30,440 So I don't know. I I would. 1353 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,880 I could see her throughout the relationship whenever she hears 1354 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,960 of Jennifer Lopez feeling a little weird about it, maybe. 1355 01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:41,640 Especially since Jlo's whole thing, I feel like, is being, 1356 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,440 like, so sexy and so powerful and glamorous. 1357 01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:49,680 And exactly, Yeah, I think that would be hard to see him get 1358 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,760 back with her. Yeah, especially when, like, I 1359 01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,360 feel like Ben sees Jennifer Garner as like a mom. 1360 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,680 He sees her as like a mom of his children and then like to get 1361 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,360 with Jlo. It's like OK, well you don't 1362 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,920 really have to bear the responsibilities of being a Co 1363 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:09,720 parent with her and like you're now free to, I don't know be a 1364 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,200 little bit looser. I I think it would be painful 1365 01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:16,040 but things seem OK though I think Jennifer Garner is so 1366 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:20,720 mature she accompanied Jlo to take the kids trick or treating 1367 01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,240 together. She's just everything is all 1368 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,400 about the kids, which is so sweet. 1369 01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:30,400 Ben not so mature. He goes on Howard Stern and he 1370 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,720 talked a little bit about the media attention during their 1371 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,920 divorce. And I have a clip. 1372 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,680 OK. To live my life in a way that 1373 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,800 and then you know they during the divorce, they printed 1374 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,480 fucking. Horrible lies. 1375 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,640 Horrible. Like what? 1376 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,560 What were the lies? I don't even want to give voice 1377 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:51,960 to it because then goes, oh, they said this. 1378 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,000 They said that anything you read about that was bullshit. 1379 01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,520 The truth was we we took our time. 1380 01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,920 We made the decision. We didn't want to show the kind 1381 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,600 of we we grew apart. We had a marriage that didn't 1382 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,120 work. This happens. 1383 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,800 If somebody I love and respect, but to whom I want, I shouldn't 1384 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,440 be married any longer. And we said, you know what? 1385 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,960 We don't want to. Ultimately, we we tried. 1386 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,840 We tried. We tried because we had kids, 1387 01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:19,680 and then we said we don't. Both of us felt like we don't 1388 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,720 want this to be the model that our kids see of marriage. 1389 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,680 I I felt like we did it amicably. 1390 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,440 We did our best. Did we have moments of tension? 1391 01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:29,320 Did we have disagreements over the custody? 1392 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,800 Was stuff difficult for us? Did we get angry? 1393 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,920 Yes. But fundamentally it was always 1394 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,560 underpinned with the respect. I knew she was a good mom. 1395 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:44,080 He also in that same interview which first of all take a drink 1396 01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:49,360 anytime anyone opens up to how. Yes, it's been a while since 1397 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,200 we've seen him. But in that same interview, Ben 1398 01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,680 said part of why I was drinking was because I felt trapped. 1399 01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:00,760 I was like, I can't believe it's because of my kids, but I'm not 1400 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,200 happy. What do I do? 1401 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,200 And what I did was I drank a bottle of Scotch and fell asleep 1402 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,640 on the couch, which turned out to not be the solution. 1403 01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,440 And then in the same interview, he also went on to say that he 1404 01:18:12,440 --> 01:18:15,120 believes that if he was still married to Jennifer Garner, he 1405 01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,040 would probably still be drinking. 1406 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:21,960 Jeez, that's not nice thing to say. 1407 01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,560 That's this is the woman that literally, like, is putting 1408 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,760 aside her own personal feelings to make sure that you're like 1409 01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,000 included in the family time with them. 1410 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,720 She's driving you to rehab. She's like making sure you're 1411 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,280 still alive to then say, I would probably still be drinking if I 1412 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,880 was married to her. Like, dude, that's that is 1413 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,160 honestly evil. Evil. 1414 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,760 I don't know. We don't have to watch the clip 1415 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,920 that I sent you of him on Jimmy Kimmel. 1416 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,200 Why not know if it's? We can watch it. 1417 01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:56,800 Do you want? To watch it. 1418 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,120 Yeah, I want to watch it. But what do you have to say 1419 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,840 about it? Well, this is him addressing and 1420 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,960 clarifying his comments about what he said on Howard Stern. 1421 01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,120 I'm curious. I listen to you. 1422 01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,680 Really cool. Like long form in depth. 1423 01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,680 You know his two hour interview and because the movie is about 1424 01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,040 family and all this stuff that's that's meaningful to me. 1425 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,280 We talked a lot about my family and, you know, divorce and 1426 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,200 alcohols and the struggling with real things and how you, how you 1427 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,720 have to be accountable and loving how I work with my 1428 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,840 ex-wife and how I'm so proud of the way that we work together 1429 01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,640 for our kids is the best that we can for them. 1430 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,200 And it was the irony. I was really happy with it, you 1431 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:34,040 know? And then the interview. 1432 01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,880 Was great interviews. I thought wow, I I should do 1433 01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,920 more honest, exploratory, you know, self evaluating things. 1434 01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,080 And I started seeing all this stuff come up on Twitter and I 1435 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,280 was like well what is this? And I sort of researched through 1436 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,360 it and then saw that one of these websites had done the, the 1437 01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,360 clickbait thing of like, you won't believe what he said, 1438 01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,640 click on this, come to our site. I looked on it and they had 1439 01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:00,320 literally taken the conversation that I had had for two hours and 1440 01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:04,280 made it seem as if I was saying the exact opposite of what I 1441 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,520 said. I had gone on and said like how 1442 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,920 much we respect each other and cared about each other and cared 1443 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,880 about our kids and put them first and went through our 1444 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,280 stuff. And he said that I had blamed my 1445 01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:17,000 ex-wife from my alcoholism. And then I was trapped in this, 1446 01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,520 like, just made me out to be like, the worst, most 1447 01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:23,760 insensitive, stupid, awful guy. And I look, I I know people do 1448 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:24,680 this. I get it. 1449 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,480 Me. I'm happy to be sad, Batman. 1450 01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:30,280 I'm happy to be Dunkin' Donuts and the meme I understand you 1451 01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,080 have. You have to get married to Jimmy 1452 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,680 Kimmel sometimes. Really, like, it's about my 1453 01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,360 kids. I got to just draw a line. 1454 01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:38,480 Right. You know, of course. 1455 01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,480 Clear. Like that's not true. 1456 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,560 I don't believe that. It's the exact. 1457 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,160 Opposite of who I am, what I believe. 1458 01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:50,400 And I would never want my kids to think I would ever say a bad 1459 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,760 word about their mom because. This really upset you. 1460 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,840 I mean, obviously. Yeah, I I noticed that. 1461 01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:01,000 I saw that online and it was crazy that they take this tiny 1462 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,720 little piece and then they. And wait, are you saying the 1463 01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,160 media sometimes takes things out of context for? 1464 01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,880 Occasionally effect. It does seem like that really 1465 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,720 upset him, that people took it that way. 1466 01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,920 But like, I think he's just like not self aware because you said 1467 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,920 if I was still married to her, I'd probably still be drinking. 1468 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,880 Like what other way are we to take that? 1469 01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,000 You could say all the other things you want about her and 1470 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:26,320 how great she is. You still said those words, like 1471 01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,680 strung that sentence together. It doesn't matter if it's out of 1472 01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,600 context and we don't know anything else that you said, 1473 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,440 like you still said that and that's a disrespectful thing to 1474 01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:38,560 say. He probably should not have been 1475 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:44,200 doing interviews, no. He seems a bit erratic and. 1476 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,320 Yeah, I don't. Know not in the best place. 1477 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:51,400 But I was thinking, it does seem like he's changed his tune a lot 1478 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:55,480 since being with Jlo. And I don't know if that's her 1479 01:21:55,480 --> 01:21:57,800 influence at all. But like, this is before he was 1480 01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,440 saying the biggest regret of his life was his divorce. 1481 01:22:00,440 --> 01:22:03,160 And like, you know, we heard that he was begging Jennifer 1482 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,440 Garner to get back together. And so now he seems kind of 1483 01:22:06,440 --> 01:22:08,640 dismissive of her. Like, yeah, like I was in it to 1484 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,880 make the make it work with the kids and I shouldn't have been 1485 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,080 in the marriage and, you know, had to get divorced. 1486 01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,760 And it's just like, painful how he's kind of changed his tune. 1487 01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:22,480 People always do that and. Now it's like, oh, Jen is just 1488 01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:26,720 like the mother of his kids. He doesn't see her like as 1489 01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,800 someone that he loved and wanted to, no. 1490 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,360 It's not true. You did love where you wanted to 1491 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,120 be. Get back together. 1492 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:39,280 I know, but I'm sure maybe that part of that is like him being 1493 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,840 dismissive of her to make Jlo feel more secure or something. 1494 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:46,120 I don't know. I could see him saying I didn't 1495 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:50,760 hear the whole interview, that maybe he like had to hit rock 1496 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,400 bottom in order for him to change. 1497 01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,400 Yeah. And that was the only way in his 1498 01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,280 divorce. Like was a wake up call to him 1499 01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,280 and that was the only way he was ever going to. 1500 01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,560 Yeah, maybe. Change, I don't know. 1501 01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,200 That's true to say. I felt trapped in that. 1502 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,400 It's just putting a lot of blame on the person that was actually 1503 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,840 saving your life. I know, just cruel. 1504 01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,920 And then here's another thing. This is so odd. 1505 01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:23,920 In 2022, Ben married Jlo in a Las Vegas wedding on July 16th, 1506 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,240 2022, Right. And weirdly so. 1507 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,040 I guess like when you sign an affidavit for marriage 1508 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:34,360 certificate, you need to list the dates of like your previous 1509 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,160 marriages if you've been married before. 1510 01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:37,920 Or maybe you have to do that in Vegas. 1511 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,880 I don't know, like I something I never heard of. 1512 01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:45,320 But so Jlo and Ben both had to list the time periods of their 1513 01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,240 previous marriages. And on the marriage certificate 1514 01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:54,160 he listed his marriage to Jennifer Gardner as ending 1515 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:59,640 exactly 9 years earlier on July 16th, 2013. 1516 01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:04,120 So what? He listed it as the same day as 1517 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:08,160 his wedding to Jlo, but 2013? Which is weird because they 1518 01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:12,000 didn't announce their separation until 2015. 1519 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:17,840 And over the course of like, 2014 and 2015, there are like so 1520 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,080 many paparazzi photos of them looking like they're a couple. 1521 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,680 So it's weird. And it seems like they're a 1522 01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:25,920 couple. Like for all intents and 1523 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,000 purposes, they are. So unless they were just like 1524 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,320 putting on a front for the public, I don't get why he's 1525 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:32,320 like. It's weird. 1526 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,960 Pretending like his marriage ended and also. 1527 01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,720 Did he just get the date wrong or he just was he just wrote the 1528 01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,640 wrong number? That's so weird. 1529 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,640 I don't know if he's like, trying to make it seem like his 1530 01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,400 marriage to Jennifer Garner is a lot more in the past than it 1531 01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,680 really was. Like, keep in mind, they didn't 1532 01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,560 even officially divorce until 2018. 1533 01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,680 So he's listening. It was like way. 5. 1534 01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,600 Years. Even though he he was literally 1535 01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,800 living in the guest house and leaning on Jennifer Gardner 1536 01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,640 emotionally. And even if they weren't still 1537 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,040 together for those three years, between their separation and 1538 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,600 their divorce, they were still kind of partners, I just think. 1539 01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:09,280 That's so odd. And. 1540 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:10,760 Disrespectful. Yeah. 1541 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,560 It's really weird. Maybe that's when he started 1542 01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,080 cheating on her, and like, that's why he thinks that it 1543 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,080 wasn't like a legitimate marriage. 1544 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,680 But also that it's just legally not true. 1545 01:25:22,440 --> 01:25:25,360 It's not, yeah. So how can he just change it? 1546 01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,240 I don't. I don't know. 1547 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,520 And it's like, it's obviously not true because what are the 1548 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,560 odds your marriage ended the same day that you're not getting 1549 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,040 married? Unless that's on purpose. 1550 01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,240 It's weird. But again, I don't know if he's 1551 01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:41,520 like dismissing his marriage to Jennifer Gardner to make Jlo 1552 01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,760 feel better or something. But maybe. 1553 01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:48,960 I mean, for like all intents and purposes, even after they 1554 01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:53,000 announce their separation, Jennifer Garner was his wife. 1555 01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,760 She was taking care of him for all these years. 1556 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,840 I think that's just so rude of him. 1557 01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,480 But J Lowe's problem now, I guess. 1558 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,120 Now to this day, Jen and Ben are still photographed together by 1559 01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:09,320 paparazzi all the time, and in some pictures they look very 1560 01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,240 friendly, like sometimes they're even smiling and hugging. 1561 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,920 There was one photo of them in a car where they, like, really 1562 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,600 were hugging and thought it was kind of odd, but there's also 1563 01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:23,360 sometimes photos where they seem to be in fights, or at least in 1564 01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:25,760 having very tense conversations. So. 1565 01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,320 Wow. Seems like they're just like Co 1566 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,920 paying And yeah, that's that's Ben and Jen. 1567 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:36,040 Oh my gosh. What a story. 1568 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:38,160 Odds that they get back together. 1569 01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:42,120 I mean, they see each other all the time, but for Jennifer's 1570 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,640 sake, I hope not. I I don't see her wanting to get 1571 01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,640 back with him. No. 1572 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,880 And that would be ridiculous. That's too ridic. 1573 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,320 I mean, he's already gotten back with Jennifer Lopez. 1574 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,000 I'll say like .5%. Yeah, me too. 1575 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,720 Me too. I think she knows that she's 1576 01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,400 better off without him. He seems like a. 1577 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,240 Burden. It's sad. 1578 01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:10,040 I mean, there could have been a possibility where they both grew 1579 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,680 together and, you know, kept up the love. 1580 01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:16,080 But no. I think, I don't think say 1581 01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:19,880 something that's like men. Not that Ben left Jennifer 1582 01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:24,200 Garner for Jlo like they were already divorced long before, 1583 01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,720 but like men will leave you for what's easier. 1584 01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,280 I feel like it's a classic case of like do. 1585 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,680 They say that. Yeah, I think so. 1586 01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,720 Jennifer Garner was just too good for him, like she expected 1587 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,840 too much because she deserved better. 1588 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:43,240 Like he could never live up because he never was mature or 1589 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,880 good enough for her. So he's. 1590 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,960 I mean, honestly, Jlo probably deserves better too. 1591 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,840 Like, I'm not, there's nothing against Jlo, but she probably 1592 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,200 is. Just like accepting him where 1593 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,840 he's at, I'm guessing and I. I feel like the narrative is 1594 01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,680 kind of I don't know if he believes this or what it's 1595 01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:01,840 really like in their personal lives, but it kind of seems 1596 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,040 like, oh, Jlo's The Fun 1 Jennifer Garner now. 1597 01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,600 Exactly. You know. 1598 01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,920 Yeah, yeah, exactly. But also, you don't share kids 1599 01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,960 with Jlo, so she's not expecting you to, like, be there for the 1600 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,080 kids and be a good father the way that Jennifer Garner. 1601 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,440 Garner needs you to man. So many. 1602 01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:20,600 Interests. I know things. 1603 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,520 Like relatable things in in this. 1604 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,440 Story I know, I know. For real. 1605 01:28:25,440 --> 01:28:27,840 And it is kind of sad for Jlo too, in a way though, because 1606 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:32,440 it's like they were engaged all these years ago, but like, he 1607 01:28:32,440 --> 01:28:35,120 could only be with her in this capacity of like, oh, we've 1608 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,880 already had kids separately. Now we're kind of like in a new 1609 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,520 chapter of our life, Like, you know, we can share like a 1610 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,920 blended family, but they don't know. 1611 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:48,960 They're not doing the, like, domestic life together. 1612 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,880 Yeah, the way they planned. Such an interesting point. 1613 01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,080 Why couldn't they make it work in that stage of life? 1614 01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:57,680 I don't know. I know. 1615 01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,720 Because he's selfish and responsible. 1616 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:04,320 I mean, I Yeah, he's troubled. You're Boston, boy. 1617 01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:10,600 I know our hometown hero. He is troubled. 1618 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,400 Oh, thanks, Mel. It was so interesting. 1619 01:29:14,440 --> 01:29:15,560 I have a lot of feelings right now. 1620 01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:21,640 Well, what are we doing next week on Patreon, if you're ready 1621 01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,560 to show that? Week kind of controversial 1622 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:29,760 couple, another age gap couple, but it's a little bit different 1623 01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,520 from age gaps covered previously. 1624 01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:34,760 OK. OK. 1625 01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:38,640 Think I know what you mean. I also know who it is. 1626 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,360 Cool. Well, thank you guys so much for 1627 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,240 listening. Thank. 1628 01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,000 You and we'll get back together next week. 1629 01:29:50,920 --> 01:30:03,840 Is your heart filled with pain? Shall I come back again? 1630 01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:05,560 10 Medium.