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Are you lonesome tonight? 
Do you miss me tonight? 

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Are you sorry we drifted apart? 
Does your man? 

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Hi guys, this is a. 
Very, very, very special episode

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of Significant Lovers. 
It's our 99th episode and it's 

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our first with a third host 
officially. 

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Hi, everybody. 
Hi. 

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So, you know, Mel and Kel, Kel, 
Mel, I'm Kel. 

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I'm Mel. 
And it's been us too for years, 

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because we had another bite of 
Twilight before this podcast and

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for the first time ever we are 
bringing on 1/3 mic permanently.

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Yes. 
We are welcoming Caitlin Kelly's

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sister, my cousin, to the 
podcast. 

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She has been an unofficial 
background host for the podcast 

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for the past couple years, 
running our YouTube and being 

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our biggest supporter, listening
to all of our episodes and 

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enjoying all the fun with us. 
And Caitlin, we're so happy to 

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have you officially on the 
podcast. 

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You're going to add such a nice 
perspective and welcome. 

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Oh my God, thank you so much. 
I'm so excited to be here and be

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a part of it and I guess host 
another episode and this time is

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like a full time. 
Kate did the Larry episode in 

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the past, Louis Tomlinson and 
Harry Styles, so she's done it. 

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Before yeah, this isn't my first
rodeo, but I'm nervous and 

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excited all the same because 
this is just so exciting. 

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So Kate, tell us, who are we 
covering today? 

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Yes. 
So today we are covering one of 

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the most iconic relationships of
the 20 tens, which is Nina 

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Dobrev and Ian Somerhalder. 
I feel like they were really 

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popular and still are. 
I feel like we get a lot of 

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people asking us to do it. 
So they're from the TV show 

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Vampire Diaries. 
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they met, right? 
But and you watched it and are 

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super into Vampire Diaries. 
Correct, The Vampire Diaries is 

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one of my all time favorite 
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I love it so much I've probably 
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like at least three or four 
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Way too many. 
I just love it so much. 

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I didn't watch it while it was 
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20, 2022 when I started watching
it and that's because I didn't 

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really have anything to watch at
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And it was like my senior year 
of college and all my friends 

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are recommending it for like the
100th time because all my 

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friends had watched it and I 
thought I might as well watch 

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it. 
So I did and well like the rest 

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is history I guess cuz now I 
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the time especially when it's 
fall, which it's now fall. 

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But I think you're right in that
they were very high profile 

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because I did not watch The 
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Obviously, I was a huge pilot 
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it was just a little too close 
to home. 

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And I just, I don't know why I 
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Yeah, so I didn't watch it, but 
I still knew about them. 

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So even people that never 
watched it still heard about it 

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so. 
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why I didn't watch it was 
because you didn't, because I 

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watched like a lot of the same 
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Because if you remember, we 
watched the pilot as a family. 

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And I don't really remember much
of it, but I just remember 

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everyone being like no. 
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guess it sucks. 
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Dang, you found your way. 
What about you? 

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Well, pilots are tough. 
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honestly, I was a little scared 
and Caitlin has been really 

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wanting us to watch the show. 
That's just 'cause I know you 

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would like it. 
I know you would love it. 

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I know, but I will say when I do
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of scared because there's just a
lot of scenes where something 

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jumps out at. 
You it's a Halloween episode. 

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Yeah, no, seriously IT guys, 
it's ACW show, but it is a jump 

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scare. 
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on the show and I'll get into 
that in a little bit, but their 

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characters of Damon and Elena 
were like one of the bigger 

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couples and ships from the show.
And they're one of my favorite 

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TV ships, like of all time. 
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watch the show would say the 
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So that also had another added 
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It wasn't just, oh, these two 
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It's these two actors who are 
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playing a couple on a popular TV
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their characters are in, we're 
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And that is tricky because if 
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in the show, it's really hard 
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you don't know anything about 
them or even if they're not 

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really compatible in real life. 
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come up with this couple. 
If the couple breaks up in real 

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life, could that potentially 
destroy your favorite ship in 

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the show? 
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Robert Pattinson and Kristen 
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But it is it's hard when you see
a couple on screen that has such

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amazing steamy chemistry and you
think, how can they not be 

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attracted to each other? 
They seem like they are, you 

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know? 
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Believe, and it's disappointing 
when they're not. 

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Hard for me to wrap my head 
around actors having chemistry 

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naturally and they're not being 
anything behind that. 

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Like how good of an actor can 
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You know? 
There has to be something. 

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I guess they can so. 
Kate, I don't believe. 

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Words Kate. 
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describe this couple? 
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describe them are cute, 
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OK. 
That's pretty positive. 

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I know you might be surprised 
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I have a question. 
I have a question. 

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Not to get a header spoiler, but
maybe this will make people a 

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little excited. 
Will a certain Nicki Reed show 

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up in this episode? 
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mention that because I know you 
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your Nicki Reed episode for the 
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podcast. 
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little bit about him from that, 
but there's going to be a lot 

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more. 
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what you, you know, talked about
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him as well as her in this 
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So yes. 
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Before we talk about Nina and 
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talk about them separately first
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was born first. 
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December 8th, 1978 in Louisa, 
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Older than I, so yeah, he's. 
Wrong with that. 

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He's a little older, I think 
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Everybody I admire is in their 
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Wait not to skip ahead? 
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like Nina must be pretty young. 
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10 years younger than him. 
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of time, not like 20 years or 
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So Ian's mother, Edna, she was a
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She is half Choctaw, which is a 
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Louisiana and that area, as well
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with Cajun ancestry and is the 
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older brother and a younger 
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And because of his Cajun side 
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is fluent in both French as well
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I didn't know that. 
I know it never really comes up 

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ever I feel like. 
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researching this. 
Wow I know cuz like the show 

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never took advantage of it. 
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include it somehow but no. 
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small town southern boy. 
He rode horses, played football,

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haunted, went camping. 
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the same time who loved 
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really loved because Ian later 
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2021 that growing up in 
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poor. 
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front of the camera and on stage
gave his mom the idea of making 

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him into a model slash actor. 
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mom in that regard. 
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people you've covered on the 
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parents, so this isn't anything 
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I think this is how a lot of 
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because their parents want them 
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He is very good. 
Looking I got, I know, which is 

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kind of crazy because he was 
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they were trying to make him 
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It was like he was a really cute
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OK, now I have a baby. 
I know he. 

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Grows up into a beautiful man. 
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penny that they had in their 
savings and put him in modeling 

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and acting classes. 
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New York every summer for three 
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opportunities. 
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entered him into a modeling 
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where he won a three-year 
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And after that he started 
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Lauren, The Gap, Toys-R-Us, 
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well. 
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of 11 he was making more money 
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And then it was really scary for
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looking back on, he doesn't 
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thing for a child to be going 
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Sounds nice though. 
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the Ford Models Agency, in 1994,
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of high school and moved to New 
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He was very booked and busy. 
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forth between Europe and the 
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runways and fashion spreads. 
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in Louisiana, by the time he was
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traveling like he was all over 
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That yeah, I didn't realize he 
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I know, yeah. 
He was like on all these runways

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when he was 16. 
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Yeah, he walked in shows. 
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Like Paris Fashion? 
You're going to say melon? 

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Fashion Week. 
I was just say, what does that 

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do to a young guy? 
You know, like. 

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I know. 
Not to stereotype, but how do 

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you stay humble when that's your
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I feel like you probably kind of
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was slightly humbled from his 
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I think if he was used to wealth
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way less down to earth, yeah. 
Makes sense? 

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he thought that his hectic 
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around kept him from his true 
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acting. 
So after a year or two, Ian 

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retired as a model for the time 
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I think he's still modeled 
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And began taking classes from a 
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York City called William Esper. 
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and starred in ATV show called 
The Young Americans, which was a

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spin off of Dawson's Creek. 
However, it was very short 

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lived, so it didn't have like 
multiple seasons or anything 

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like that. 
And then in 2002, he starred in 

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a movie adaptation of Brett 
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of Attraction. 
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And that was a good role for him
and it got him to be on some 

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people's. 
Radar, I know the. 

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Word. 
Yeah, Radar. 

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I couldn't think of the word 
I've. 

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Been meaning to, I've been 
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watch that movie. 
So. 

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Oh really? 
I didn't know he was in it, so 

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that's interesting. 
But then after that, in 2004, 

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two years after his debut in the
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Subtraction movie. 
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as Boone Carlisle in the TV 
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Yes, Kelly loves waiting for 
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Yeah, Charlie got me into Lost 
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I find lost even scarier than. 
No, man, it it gets it gets less

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scary, it's not scary. 
Oh my God, that first episode I 

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could not do. 
When that person gets sucked up 

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into that plane, I'm like, 
forget about it. 

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No, that's like 5 minutes into 
the episode. 

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I know it's in the beginning. 
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like kooky stuff in loss too. 
The thing is like I can only 

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watch this stuff if I'm like out
of sleepover. 

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I cannot be going to bed in my 
own room otherwise I'm thinking 

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about it all night and can't 
fall asleep. 

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That's OK. 
But yeah, he was like a pretty 

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mean character on the show, but 
he's not in every season. 

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Spoiler. 
Yeah, so even though he wasn't 

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on the show for that long, 
because loss was such a big hit,

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it gained him a lot of 
attention. 

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And he did say it was one of the
greatest experiences of his life

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at being on the show. 
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for it. 
And because he was on Loss, it 

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actually gave him the 
opportunity and the chance to 

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audition for The Vampire Diaries
for The CW 'cause I think the 

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showrunners had seen Lost and 
they had seen him, and they were

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intrigued to have him read. 
Yeah, because of that. 

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Who's that hot guy? 
Exactly. 

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So he auditioned for The Vampire
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eventually cast as the character
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And that was alongside Nina 
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Who is that? 
Well, before we get into her, I 

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wanted to mention about Ian's 
personality because that's, I 

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know that something that you 
guys like to talk about a little

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bit. 
Oh yeah. 

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So I know it seems like he 
probably does have an ego. 

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And I know Mel, you believe that
he might, but apparently he's 

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reported to have a lack of ego. 
We don't know these people, but 

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so. 
Just because Mel said that like 

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a minute ago. 
No, she said that to me before. 

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No, she said this to me before. 
She's like, oh, I. 

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I know someone who knows someone
who knows someone that says that

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he's kind of an asshole, but you
know, got a couple degrees away 

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from him. 
Yeah, so you never know. 

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It could have been a bad day or 
something. 

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Again, we don't know these 
people, but he's been said to 

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have a lack of ego. 
I'm sorry, I know someone who 

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knows someone so 2° away. 
A friend of mine, a friend of 

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hers knows him. 
OK, well anyway, he's also 

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supposedly ambitious. 
He's very charitable. 

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He even has a bunch of charities
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Passionate both about like his 
charities, the earth, cuz he 

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really big into climate change 
and fighting against that. 

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Same with, you know, we'll get 
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And he also, yeah. 
And he's also very outdoorsy as 

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well, big on some of the more 
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growing up. 
Well, anyway, so who is this 

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Nina Dobrev who was cast in The 
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Somerhalder? 
Nicolina Caminova de Breva was 

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born in Bulgaria on January 9th,
1989. 

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What? 
Nickname. 

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I know, so Nina de Brev isn't 
even really like her real name, 

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but I mean, that's how it is for
most people in Hollywood. 

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So she's also fluent in English 
and Bulgarian because of that. 

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Wow, learn something new 
everyday. 

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So her dad was a computer 
specialist and her mom was an 

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artist. 
She has an older brother. 

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When she was 2, her family 
relocated to Canada where she 

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was raised in Scarborough, 
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However, at the age of 10, in 
1999, she moved back to Bulgaria

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with her mom for two years. 
I don't know what her dad and 

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her brother were doing, but for 
some reason it was just her and 

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her mom that moved to Bulgaria. 
I feel like we often hear things

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like that on this show. 
I know it's weird. 

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She also. 
Went with her to New York City 

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for a couple years. 
Like what? 

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What about the rest of the 
family? 

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I know same with like even Ian 
like him and his mom and his 

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brother went to New York every 
summer as like without the dad 

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without some of the other 
siblings. 

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Well, anyway, take a drink 
because she travelled around a 

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lot. 
So they went between like 

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Bulgaria and Turkey and Romania 
and a lot of the neighboring 

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other countries and then also 
back to Canada as well. 

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Wow. 
So growing up, Nina was also an 

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accomplished dancer, namely in 
ballet and jazz, and also a 

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competitive athlete. 
She was the substitute on the 

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Canadian National team for 
rhythmic gymnastics, she told 

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Penn Badgley on his podcast Pod 
Crushed, who we've talked about 

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before. 
Oh. 

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I listen to that. 
The one with him, or I mean with

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the one with her. 
I think. 

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So, well, she told him on his 
podcast that there probably 

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wasn't a pop possibility that 
she'd have made it to the 

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Olympics, but if she stood stuck
with it, she might have. 

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So in an alternate timeline, she
might have been an Olympian for 

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rhythmic gymnastics. 
But then, at least on the 

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grassy, Mia made the cheer 
squad. 

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Yeah. 
With with those skills not to 

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skip a hat, Yeah. 
Did I ruin something? 

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No, I just realized for some 
reason I have nothing about 

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Degrassi. 
In what? 

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Nothing about Degrassi, are you?
Kidding. 

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Can't really find too much about
it, but I think that's why for 

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some reason I just didn't have 
it. 

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But in 2006, she began playing 
the role of Mia, as you know, on

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Degrassi The Next Generation, 
and she was on the show for 

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three seasons. 
But so so she moved back to 

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Canada, to Toronto. 
How did she get into acting? 

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Did you read anything about 
that? 

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Like it seems like she's doing 
dance and gymnastics. 

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Is this just did she just 
audition or something? 

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Yeah, I think she just 
auditioned. 

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Is this her first acting role? 
This was, yeah, this was her 

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first acting role. 
It always felt to me like it was

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kind of, I hate to say this, but
easy for those Degrassi kids to 

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get on the show. 
Oh my God, it gets even easier, 

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you'll to see. 
Well, why do you say that? 

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No. 
Just seems like there was a lot 

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of parts on the show and like, I
don't know there were. 

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I know. 
Seems like everyone who was on 

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it was like kind of an amateur. 
Didn't like had no experience. 

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It almost felt like it was like 
a local PBS show that like. 

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It did. 
I mean, that's good in a way 

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'cause it was supposed to be 
like real teens and it was real 

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teens. 
That was a good thing. 

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But yeah, you weren't getting 
like these incredible actors 

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necessary, no offense. 
I mean like. 

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It was it was popular, but it's 
to get on like the Disney 

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Channel here in the United 
States. 

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Like those kids had like been 
busting their ass for years, 

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like doing acting jobs. 
And it just kind of seems like 

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they went to like the local high
schools and scouted real kids. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Anyway, back to Nina. 

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Well, unlike Ian, I think her 
personality is a bit harder to 

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nail down because she doesn't 
reveal too much about herself 

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and doesn't take too many 
interviews. 

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She does occasionally do 
podcasts and stuff like that, 

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but she's very kind of secretive
about herself and kind of keeps 

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her cards close to her chest. 
And I think that's why I had 

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trouble finding information 
about Degrassi because there 

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weren't many interviews about 
her and her time on Degrassi or 

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about how she got on Degrassi. 
And if there were, they were 

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probably completely scrubbed 
from the Internet and impossible

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to find. 
What? 

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Why would they be scrubbed? 
Because like sites just are no 

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longer up anymore. 
Oh, I see, I see. 

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Yeah, they weren't like trying 
to hide anything. 

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Yeah, but she seems sporty and 
mindful and very practical and 

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again, private, friendly and 
ambitious, but again, just not 

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the most approachable in a 
sense. 

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I can see that, I believe that 
she is very private and keeps 

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her cards close because I feel 
like she's never been someone 

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that anyone could be annoyed 
with or anything, you know? 

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But she just doesn't share much 
about herself. 

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No, she doesn't. 
You can kind of just project 

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whatever you want onto her. 
So Nina moved to LA in January 

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of 2009 and this was after 
finishing her three season stint

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on Degrassi and The Vampire 
Diaries was her very first 

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audition for ATV show pilot. 
In LA. 

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Yeah, in LA So she moved to LA 
because she wanted better job 

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opportunities than Canada could 
provide in terms of acting. 

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And this was the first audition.
That's crazy. 

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That's like Tom Cruise, what we 
just talked about, started 

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acting and then right away just 
got good roles and was a star. 

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I feel like at that time to 
Degrassi was like a more popular

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show with American teenagers, so
it probably helps like at that 

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time like a Grimes also just got
on 90210 on The CW. 

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So like you started to see those
stars break out, like Drake 

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started to become popular. 
Yeah. 

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That's very true. 
So Nina would later say on a 

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podcast called XOXO in 2022 that
at the time when she auditioned 

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for The Vampire Diaries and got 
the job, that she was actually 

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dating an actor. 
She didn't say who. 

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We don't know who this person 
is. 

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She was dating an actor who is 
being considered for the role of

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Damon Salvatore, and they were 
supposedly going to choose him, 

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but then they ended up not in 
favor of choosing Ian 

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Somerhalder instead. 
What? 

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Yeah, so then she got cast as, 
you know, Elena and plenty of 

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other characters as well for the
show. 

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And then it got awkward because 
he didn't get cast and so they 

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broke up. 
That would then be that would be

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tough to be the ex-boyfriend and
not only did you lose the part, 

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but you lost the girl. 
And then the. 

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Girl the girl gets with the guy 
that got the part. 

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Yeah, that's crazy. 
I guess that's things happen for

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a reason. 
Yeah, I really wish I knew who 

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it was. 
I wonder. 

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Yeah, well, that's all I had 
about Nina before we get into 

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them as Nina and Ian, because 
the show's about to start 

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filming. 
So let's take a little break and

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then we'll when we return, we'll
get into the love story. 

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So the pilot of The Vampire 
Diaries was filmed from about 

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March to April of 2009 in 
Vancouver, Canada, but then the 

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rest of the season was filmed 
that summer in Georgia. 

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And I boiler alert. 
But for some reason, when I was 

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initially writing this script, I
was thinking to myself that Nina

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and Ian don't kiss in the first 
season because their characters 

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don't. 
So I was like, oh, like that 

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wouldn't be the reason why they 
would get together. 

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You know, like they wouldn't 
have to kiss for the show and 

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that would like spark any kind 
of romantic feelings or 

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anything. 
But they do actually, they do 

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kiss in the first season. 
I totally forgot because Nina, 

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yeah, she plays multiple 
characters and I always forget 

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that she does. 
So she plays Catherine, who was 

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Damon's ex-girlfriend. 
And they kiss many times 

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throughout the season in like 
flashbacks and stuff. 

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So you're telling me in the show
because Ian plays Damon and 

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Damon is brothers with? 
What's his name with? 

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Stefan. 
OK, Damon is brothers with 

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Stefan and Stefan is the one who
is with. 

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You know, doing. 
This character, yes. 

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So you're telling me that this 
guy had this love, this, I'm 

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guessing serious love, and then 
his brother gets with someone 

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that looks identical to her? 
No, I mean, you've you haven't 

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seen the show and this isn't 
something that like is revealed.

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What do you know? 
They reveal this in the pilot, 

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so it's not too much of A 
spoiler, but Stefan and dated 

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Damon. 
Stefan and Damon dated somebody 

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in the 1800s who looked like 
Yeah, they both dated. 

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Who is Catherine, who's played 
by Nina de Brev? 

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Yeah, see, I don't like that 
she's identical. 

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Because then it feels like, OK, 
now you're only dating Elena 

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because she looks like your ex 
and you're kind of hung up on 

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her. 
That's like a whole thing. 

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They should have casted justice 
or something. 

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Someone who looks similar to 
her. 

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In the show, do they remark 
like, wow, she looks just like. 

451
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,160
Yes, 'cause it's a, it's a 
whole. 

452
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,960
It's a whole plot too. 
Similar though like no one in. 

453
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,160
It's not like they didn't have 
an actress to play that 

454
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,640
character and they were like, 
oh, Nina, you could just slap on

455
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,400
a wig and play this character or
whatever. 

456
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,120
So there's a reason. 
There's a reason for it, Yeah. 

457
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,720
Wait, is there a reason why they
look alike or is that 

458
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,800
coincidental? 
No, there's a reason why they 

459
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,600
look alike. 
Yeah, Is she really her? 

460
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,000
Mel, you'll just have to watch 
the show. 

461
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,680
Okay, you got. 
Me there, I know it's too. 

462
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,400
Skeely for you, but is that her 
ancestor? 

463
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,400
I am not saying. 
Okay. 

464
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,240
Well anyway, so even though 
Elena and Damon don't kiss in 

465
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,040
the first season, spoiler alert,
Catherine and Damon do, so Nina 

466
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,120
and Ian do kiss in the first 
season. 

467
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:12,120
So they're getting hot and 
heavy. 

468
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,800
But she maybe was still with, I 
mean she's acting as her job, 

469
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,960
but was she maybe still with 
that boyfriend at this time or? 

470
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,880
I think it was over when they 
filmed the pilot they were still

471
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,400
together but by the time they 
were filming the rest of the 

472
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,560
season, no. 
OK so May 21st of 2009. 

473
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,400
So this was while they were 
filming the first season. 

474
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,080
The Vampire Diaries cast members
were in attendance at The CW 

475
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,520
Network's 2009 upfront, and 
Niana and Ian posed very 

476
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,840
comfortably together on the red 
carpet. 

477
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,400
I've heard of these upfronts 
before because of Penn Badgley's

478
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,960
show. 
I didn't even know what that 

479
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,160
was. 
They have one every year. 

480
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,600
It's like some event to what? 
Like showcase all the new. 

481
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,680
Yeah, showcase all the new shows
that are coming out, all the new

482
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,280
stars. 
It's kind of like if you know, 

483
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,680
the Disney's D 23 or something 
like that, like basically just 

484
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,080
saying like here's the lineup of
CW and here's all the actors and

485
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,600
things like that. 
So they were on the red carpet 

486
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,120
together and there's one picture
in particular which I think is 

487
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,800
so cute, and I'm going to send 
it to you, as you can see. 

488
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,520
OK. 
So this is while they're filming

489
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,120
the first season. 
I see it. 

490
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,280
He has a fedora on. 
I know so 2009 I feel like. 

491
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,440
He has his arm around her, he's 
looking down at her, but she's 

492
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,280
not looking at him. 
But she has like a very smug 

493
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,440
look on her face, very like. 
Smiling at the cameras, like, 

494
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,440
yeah, I have Ian. 
Yeah, they look like they're 

495
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,120
dating here. 
I know. 

496
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,920
And there's plenty of pictures 
also that also looked very 

497
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,600
comfortable and intimate as 
well. 

498
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,360
So this isn't, Yeah. 
So this isn't totally relevant, 

499
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,280
but the show premiered on 
September 10th of that year, 

500
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,880
2009, and garnered roughly 5 
million views, close to 9 

501
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,640
million if you include DVR. 
And it was the CWS biggest show 

502
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,880
that season and it was like 
pretty much their biggest show 

503
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,320
ever. 
Beating out America. 

504
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,880
'S Next Top Model for #1. 
To that I just have to say, 

505
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,080
maybe riding the coattails of 
Twilight a little. 

506
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,680
People needed that fix, you 
know? 

507
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,480
Yeah. 
I think the show definitely rode

508
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,680
the coattails, but to be fair, 
the books which I read, the 

509
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,120
first book I had the second 
book. 

510
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,160
The books were written in the 
90s. 

511
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,680
Yeah, but would the show have 
even come out at that time if it

512
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,160
weren't for Twilight? 
Maybe not. 

513
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,080
Probably not. 
I can. 

514
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,920
Admit they would have never 
dated and you know, like, you 

515
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,560
know what how they say like 
Stephanie Meyer was inspired by 

516
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,960
My Chemical Romance. 
Which is my right 911? 

517
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,920
Was it inspired by 911 or 
wasn't? 

518
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,800
Yeah, inspired by 911. 
Oh shit yeah. 

519
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,760
So these people would not have 
dated if it wasn't, I hate to 

520
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,840
say it, for 911. 
Well, IANS like whole life is 

521
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,280
based on it because he also 
married a Twilight actress his 

522
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,760
whole. 
Life is based on. 

523
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,840
It his whole life is thanks to 
911. 

524
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,320
Well, anyway, on July 30th of 
that year, still 2009, while 

525
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,120
talking to fearnet interviewer 
at CDCC or San Diego Comic Con 

526
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,500
and says that his character is 
in a love triangle with quote UN

527
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:38,120
quote this beautiful young lady 
and points to Nina a couple feet

528
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,840
away. 
So definitely a little bit of 

529
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,520
flirting. 
On September 10th, Entertainment

530
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,200
Weekly interviews a whole host 
of the cast from The Vampire 

531
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,160
Diaries, and Nina is interviewed
and she's asked how she gets 

532
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,160
along with the rest of the cast.
And she says, honestly, I can't 

533
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,760
even put into the words. 
We all just get along so well. 

534
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,520
We hang out more than you think 
we should because we want to. 

535
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,480
We want to be part of each 
other's lives. 

536
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,960
Paul and Ian are like my Big 
Brothers. 

537
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,440
I know. 
I think that's such a thing that

538
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,200
people say. 
They're like, they're like my 

539
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,880
brothers. 
They're like my sisters, you 

540
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,120
know? 
But then they end up dating. 

541
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,120
I know. 
So, so like a month later, on 

542
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,080
October 17th, they arrived 
together, just them at the 

543
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,280
Spikes TV Scream 2009 Awards, I 
don't know what that is, And 

544
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,680
posed on the red carpet together
very intimately and comfortably 

545
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,400
like they did at the other 
event. 

546
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,840
And then on the November 11th, 
Ian tweets this trailer's messy 

547
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,520
and Nina tweets back. 
Haha. 

548
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,000
Your trailer looks like a 
doctor's examination room 

549
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,760
compared to mine. 
Exclamation point. 

550
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,320
And then December 1st, Nina 
tweeted on set with my boys at 

551
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,920
Ian Somerhalder and Paul. 
And Paul, Yeah, so why did he 

552
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,800
not have Twitter or something? 
He doesn't have Twitter right 

553
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,520
now. 
OK, so on December 2nd, in an 

554
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,120
interview with Newsweek, Ian 
says that he is obsessed with 

555
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,560
stray animals and saving them, 
and that he and his girlfriend 

556
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,760
have saved and rescued several 
animals. 

557
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,840
Oh, girlfriend. 
Yeah, and he would be like, Oh 

558
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,760
my God. 
Oh cute. 

559
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,600
Like get really excited because 
like oh girlfriend mentioned, 

560
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:17,720
but actually this isn't Nina, 
this is another woman who is his

561
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,000
girlfriend at this point in 
time. 

562
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,000
Well that kind of makes sense I 
guess because if they were 

563
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,440
dating I feel like they it would
be too soon to be adopting 

564
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,000
animals together. 
I know, yeah. 

565
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,400
So during this time, Ian has a 
girlfriend, and he mentions 

566
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,160
later in that interview that he 
had been with her when he 

567
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,680
received the call to audition 
for The Vampire Diaries. 

568
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,840
So clearly not Nina because he 
hadn't known her at that point 

569
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,800
in time. 
I'm just shocked because I 

570
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,360
thought this was all very flirty
seeming. 

571
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,200
I know. 
He said that she was beautiful, 

572
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,000
so I'm shocked. 
Yeah, so this is some woman. 

573
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,240
I don't know who she is, if 
she's an actress or not, but her

574
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,800
name's Megan Auld and they've 
been together since at least 

575
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,600
2007 and as of December 2nd, 
2009, they're still together. 

576
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,080
OK. 
And a couple days later, Nina 

577
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,960
tweeted incredible work today at
Ian Somerhalder. 

578
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,360
Just another day at the office 
lol. 

579
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,440
And then? 
Reading at him a lot. 

580
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,560
I know this is even all of them,
but these are like really flirty

581
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,320
ones. 
December 8th, Ian's birthday. 

582
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,240
They're photographed and videoed
landing in and walking around 

583
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,880
LAX together. 
So they're the only ones there, 

584
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,760
the only ones with the cast, the
only ones of like their friend 

585
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,600
group or whatever in LAX, and 
they're just walking around 

586
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,160
together on his birthday, what I
know. 

587
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,880
And then that same day, Nina 
tweeted just landed at LAX with 

588
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,280
Ian Somerhalder, who got 
paparazzi. 

589
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,880
Ha ha, it's his birthday. 
Happy birthday, Sam. 

590
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,360
That's so cute. 
I do have to wonder though what 

591
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,480
his girlfriend would think of 
this. 

592
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,800
Like I know is this girl. 
Tweeting at my boyfriend all the

593
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,760
time. 
What the heck? 

594
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,520
I know. 
And then so in 2010, in 

595
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,520
February, the UK magazine My 
Bliss interviewed the DVD cast, 

596
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:12,360
The Vampire Diaries cast. 
And that's the first little clip

597
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,000
that I sent you guys. 
They look very closely. 

598
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,880
Ian has his arms over the 
shoulders, both Paul and Nina, 

599
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,600
but Nina and Ian's hands are 
claps together and they're very 

600
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,000
close, very tucked into each 
other. 

601
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,120
Hi, Bliss. 
It's Nina Dobrev here. 

602
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,760
Ian Somerhalder, I don't fall by
SO. 

603
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,080
Am I the only one? 
You guys totally put me out to 

604
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,080
drive all. 
Right, I'll do the accent then. 

605
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,159
Thank you so much for watching. 
We really love you and your 

606
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,600
support and continue to do so. 
And we'll continue making the 

607
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,239
episodes. 
It's. 

608
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,520
Not, not bad. 
Thank you, Peter. 

609
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,840
I love you. 
They really were holding hands. 

610
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,440
I know. 
Like I gotta say her English 

611
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,040
accent is great. 
Yeah. 

612
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,000
That was cute. 
She. 

613
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,200
Grew up in Europe so maybe she 
travelled around to England a 

614
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,520
bunch too. 
True. 

615
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,080
Yeah. 
I mean, they looked, you're 

616
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,880
right. 
They looked really cozy. 

617
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:13,680
Both the guys looked so like 
Edward, including the eyebrows. 

618
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,680
Paul, who plays Stefan, is 
definitely supposed to be like 

619
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,200
the Edward type for sure. 
It was cute though. 

620
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:22,600
A month later, on March 6th, 
Nina and Ian arrive at LAX 

621
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,600
together and he kisses her on 
the cheek. 

622
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,440
OK. 
And that same day while at Paley

623
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,000
Fest, Paley Fest, Ian says Nina 
looks amazing wearing court sets

624
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,920
on set. 
And when Paul asks in who is who

625
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,240
is the pretty one here, In 
points to Nina. 

626
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,960
Oh, I would say I hope him and 
his girlfriend are done. 

627
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,760
I would be. 
I know, I know so too. 

628
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,200
Seriously, I know. 
But at the same convention, the 

629
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,520
Paley Fest, she mentions again 
that he's like a brother to her.

630
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,200
What? 
I know. 

631
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,080
And then on March 10th in an 
interview with 17 Magazine, Nina

632
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,000
said that she would never date 
one of her Co stars. 

633
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,680
She said that dating a Co star 
can get sticky and that you'd 

634
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,840
prefer not to date any actor in 
general. 

635
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,600
She also said in the same 
interview that you recently 

636
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,280
bought an Oddie convertible and 
that Ian went with her to the 

637
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,560
dealership to get it. 
And it's kind of funny because 

638
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,200
in this interview spread with 
her with 17 Magazine, there's a 

639
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,240
pic of the two of them and the 
caption says they'd make a cute 

640
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:25,640
couple. 
I don't feel like sometimes 

641
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,960
those. 
Actors just say stuff and it's 

642
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,760
not true click because obviously
you were literally auditioning 

643
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,320
for the show with your boyfriend
at the time. 

644
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,160
I know, true. 
I also kind of take some of her 

645
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,840
words with a grain of salt 
because especially in these 

646
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,840
earlier years, she tweets like, 
Oh my God, love Paul. 

647
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,840
You know, they're like my 
brothers and stuff. 

648
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,000
But later on, she said that her 
and Paul did not get along. 

649
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,720
Really. 
Yeah. 

650
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:54,840
So I don't know how truthful 
she's being in some of these 

651
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,840
interviews, you know? 
She even though she hasn't done 

652
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,640
that much acting, she seems like
someone that's really media 

653
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,920
trained somehow. 
I know maybe it's just from 

654
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,160
degraded or something, I don't 
know. 

655
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,400
She's very good at the 
publicity, it seems like. 

656
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,080
Yeah, just saying. 
You know what you're supposed to

657
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,640
say. 
They begin filming the second 

658
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,200
season in the spring and summer 
2010, April 16th. 

659
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,960
NIA tweets on set. 
Running scene right now with Ian

660
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,600
Somerhalder. 
Intense. 

661
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,920
And then May 28th, Nina and Ian 
sit courtside together at a 

662
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,280
basketball Lakers game in LA and
they were supposedly whispering 

663
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,280
it in each other's ears a lot 
and very cuddly. 

664
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,040
But at this point they're still 
regarded as just friends and Co 

665
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,840
stars, nothing more and nothing 
else. 

666
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,200
Just brother and sister. 
Yep, we have to kiss a lot for 

667
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,200
work. 
So now we're in 2011 and this is

668
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,760
now like 2 years since they 
first met in 2009 for starting 

669
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,680
The Vampire Diaries. 
So January 23rd, Nina and Ian 

670
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,040
are spotted again at LAX. 
Just them, no one else. 

671
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,520
They're not kissing or anything 
like that. 

672
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,880
But again, just together at LAX.
That means they flew together. 

673
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,880
In case anybody doesn't know, 
LAX is a airport in Los Angeles.

674
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,400
On March 7th, Nina is 
interviewed for Teen Vogue and 

675
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,040
has this to say when she's asked
about her relationship with Ian.

676
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,720
She said we expected the rumors,
like if I wasn't dating Ian, I'd

677
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,440
be dating Paul. 
A lot of people who work 

678
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,000
together end up dating, so it 
wouldn't be unusual, but I've 

679
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,720
never dated anyone I've worked 
with. 

680
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,600
OK. 
And then April 18th, Nina and 

681
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,360
Ian were spotted spending the 
day together at Coachella Music 

682
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,960
Festival with Joshua Jackson and
Diane Kruger, who were a couple 

683
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,400
at the time. 
There's no PDA, but they lounged

684
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,920
together side by side on the 
same blanket and this really 

685
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,440
fueled the dating rumors. 
Yeah, going to a music festival 

686
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,560
together. 
I know. 

687
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,040
And spending one-on-one with 
another couple, so it's like a 

688
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,800
double date. 
I think they're dating here. 

689
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,760
They I feel like they must be. 
Yeah, I mean, if you're 

690
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,920
attracted to someone, you're 
both addicted to each other and 

691
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,640
you work together, I would be 
surprised that two years would 

692
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,440
go by before anything happens, 
you know? 

693
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,240
I know so. 
So on April 30th, Nina and Ian 

694
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:06,040
attend the White House 
Correspondents Dinner and after 

695
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,600
party together. 
What? 

696
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,240
Why were they invited? 
Why were they? 

697
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,400
That just goes to show how 
popular The Vampire Diaries were

698
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,800
that they were invited to the 
White House Correspondents. 

699
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,320
I knew you were going to say 
something like that because it's

700
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,800
The Vampire Diaries. 
Obviously. 

701
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,840
Why Ella? 
Cultural. 

702
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,800
Phenomenon. 
Maybe yes. 

703
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,360
Maybe like Sasha and Malia 
watched it. 

704
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,840
Maybe. 
It would be crazy if they could 

705
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,040
just say like I want my favorite
show I know. 

706
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,680
I know. 
And then meet them. 

707
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,360
So then a month later in May, 
they attend a World Ocean Day 

708
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,360
celebration together. 
Again, just them, no one else. 

709
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,720
A couple days later in Paris, 
Nina and Ian are papped walking 

710
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:49,560
the streets, holding hands. 
They also reportedly went to the

711
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,000
Saint Germain de Press with 
their mothers and later dined at

712
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,320
a local bar together. 
But their mothers? 

713
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,400
Yeah, their mothers and animales
apparently. 

714
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,520
And then June 6th and this is 
2011 again. 

715
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,160
I don't know what he's reacting 
to some picture but we can't see

716
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,840
anymore. 
But Ian tweeted Nina gets my 

717
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,040
vote that dresses like skin 
tight wrapping paper round a 

718
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,600
beautiful. 
Gift Wow. 

719
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,480
At this point definitely hope 
that him and his girlfriend are 

720
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,800
broken up. 
June 20th they walk the red 

721
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,720
carpet together at the Much 
Music Video Awards. 

722
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,960
When asked by reporters which 
act Ian was most looking forward

723
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,280
to seeing, Ian cheekily replied.
Who am I most succeeded to see 

724
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,800
tonight? 
Nina de Brev it. 

725
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,120
Wasn't the question like which 
act he. 

726
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,600
Wanted to, yeah. 
It was what act? 

727
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,080
And then he was like, well, I 
want to see Nona Brev. 

728
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,440
Yeah, what's her act? 
Just showing up and being on the

729
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,160
carpet, apparently. 
That's cute, but. 

730
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,360
It does kind of feel like 
they're playing into it, though.

731
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,560
I don't know if they're getting,
you know, pressure from the 

732
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,160
studio or like their publicists 
are saying, you know, like, 

733
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,360
people would really like to see 
you guys together. 

734
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,800
But like, these are kind of 
unnecessary comments if you are 

735
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,880
asked. 
Like, you don't need to like be 

736
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,040
cheeky with the reporters. 
I know. 

737
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,680
And that is something that has 
come up because so many CW 

738
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:08,200
actors have dated their Co 
stars. 

739
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,920
So some people do think, I know 
Troy from Beyond the Blinds 

740
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,280
thinks that like potentially the
network is setting these people 

741
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,440
up and like having them pretend 
in favor of the TV show and like

742
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,800
getting publicity for the shows 
and for the network. 

743
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,360
That's not something that like I
know for certain is happening. 

744
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,120
It could be, I don't know, but 
it definitely is something that 

745
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,840
happens a lot. 
I mean, we did an episode about 

746
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,240
Penn Badgley and Blake Lively. 
That's definitely one of those 

747
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:40,200
CW couples. 
I don't know. 

748
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,800
I want to think it's real. 
I know, maybe it's just like 

749
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,280
encouraged. 
We know. 

750
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,120
I don't know. 
Yeah, we don't know. 

751
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,920
But again, they're on very 
romantic shows with very 

752
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,560
attractive people. 
I mean, it seems like something 

753
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,040
might happen. 
Well, I guess let's let's keep 

754
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,240
seeing what happens. 
OK, well in July, it's more 

755
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:03,320
real. 
Well, in July, supposedly, while

756
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,400
Comic Con and Nina were seen at 
the Maxim FX and Fox 

757
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,720
Entertainment party, where 
reporters said that they 

758
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,920
supposedly couldn't keep their 
hands off of each other and that

759
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,920
they were inseparable. 
And then I couldn't find the 

760
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,040
exact date, but some point in 
September 2011, Ian was 

761
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,320
interviewed by Us Weekly where 
he said there were a million 

762
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,240
things he loved about Nina. 
He said she truly enjoys life, 

763
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,360
her desire to experience and 
appreciate everything around her

764
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,920
and chuckle and enjoy it. 
She's great. 

765
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,280
When you're really close to 
someone, they can make fun of 

766
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,000
you a lot and get away with it. 
But you sort, but they sort of 

767
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,640
poke you in all of the places. 
They sort of poke you in all the

768
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,480
places. 
I guess so, but it doesn't say 

769
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,800
in all all the right places and 
all the places it all makes 

770
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,960
sense because they know you so 
well and it really pisses you 

771
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,600
off. 
But it forces you to sort of be 

772
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,400
introspective and ask yourself, 
wow, is that really how people 

773
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,640
see me? 
Apparently so that kind of got 

774
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:03,760
away from her, but seems like he
was saying that she's really 

775
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,480
close to him. 
I. 

776
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:08,200
Get what he means? 
So are they officially dating at

777
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,040
this point? 
I mean they haven't said so but 

778
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,120
it seems like they are. 
In the late summer of 2011 they 

779
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,840
start filming season 3 of The 
Vampire Diaries and this is when

780
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,120
I guess spoiler alert but they 
have way more like kissing and 

781
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,000
making out see. 
And so that's got to do 

782
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,240
something. 
October 29th, Nina and Ian 

783
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:30,880
attend Ian's foundation and 
power esque event. 

784
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,360
She was dressed as Hermione 
Granger and he was dressed as 

785
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,000
Captain Planet because it was 
like a Halloween themed event. 

786
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:43,000
So perfect, no couples costume 
but they went together like all 

787
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,080
the rest of the cast were there 
but they were the only ones that

788
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,160
were like posing together. 
On December 8th, which is his 

789
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,440
birthday, Nina tweeted. 
Happy birthday to my favorite 

790
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,920
vampire. 
It's 1111 and your birthday. 

791
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,440
Make a wish. 
Well yeah, it's definitely not 

792
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,040
just something you do for a Co 
worker. 

793
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,160
So it's like APR range. 
Relationship. 

794
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,280
Yeah, yeah, something like that,
but who knows? 

795
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,280
So it's now 2012, three years 
since The Vampire Diaries 

796
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,880
started, and they were cast for 
it. 

797
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,040
So beginning of the year there 
were rumors that they were 

798
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,720
engaged again. 
They're not even confirmed, but 

799
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:25,320
people believe that they're 
engaged, or at least people 

800
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,720
believe that there's a rumor 
going around that Ian popped the

801
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:30,840
question but that Nina rejected 
it. 

802
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,560
What I know and Ninas publicist 
actually responded by saying 

803
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,720
that there was no proposal and 
that if there had been 1, Nina 

804
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:42,120
would be wearing a ring. 
Where? 

805
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,440
Did this come from? 
I don't know this. 

806
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,720
Is this it just started being a 
rumor apparently that they were 

807
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:53,480
engaged or that Ian at least 
proposed Nina, who was only 23 

808
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,400
at the time, and Ian who was 
323332? 

809
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,720
Sorry, I didn't do the math. 
So Nina was asked about the 

810
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:04,360
rumors by Access Hollywood at 
the People's Choice Award on 

811
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,040
January 11th. 
And she said that. 

812
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,600
I mean, that's not my style. 
I'm really young. 

813
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:12,000
It's not like back in the day 
when you would get married and 

814
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,080
have children at 18. 
I'm a career woman and a young, 

815
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,440
very driven woman, and I've got 
a lot I have to accomplish 

816
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:23,120
before I settle down and have 
kids or do any of that again. 

817
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,640
She's only 23, so it makes 
sense. 

818
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,520
Yeah, sounds like she really 
feels that way. 

819
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,000
So January 11th, a couple days 
later, Ian tweeted, 

820
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,880
Congratulations, Nina, you won. 
I think this is from the 

821
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,760
People's Choice Award, which is 
where she had that interview. 

822
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,320
He said people do like you 
smiling emoji. 

823
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,200
You rock, babe. 
Truly. 

824
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,800
So he called her babe. 
Yeah, that seems pretty damning,

825
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,320
honestly. 
This is the moment I feel like 

826
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,360
this is the My boyfriend is 
English, you know? 

827
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,680
Twilight ref I know for real. 
Or that she's back in LA. 

828
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,400
That's Robson reference if you 
know. 

829
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,000
Babe. 
Yeah, What? 

830
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,480
I know. 
So February 27th, Nina and Ian 

831
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,960
arrive at Elton John's Academy 
Awards viewing party together 

832
00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:13,320
and they were photographed with 
their arms around each other and

833
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,560
looked very cozy. 
That must be such a great party.

834
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,320
I know. 
I mean, our parties are awesome,

835
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,560
but they're Oscar parties. 
But I know that's like a party 

836
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,760
that you want to go to. 
So also in February, Nina was on

837
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,760
the cover of Nylon magazine. 
Kelly, your favorite? 

838
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,360
I have that. 
I have that. 

839
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,360
One you do. 
Yeah, I have like every single 

840
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,320
one since it's like 2011. 
I should have asked you because 

841
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,400
I had to read this article on 
like with the Wayback Machine. 

842
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,040
Yeah, you should have asked. 
Me, because this is like 

843
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,760
February 2012 and they just 
didn't have it anymore. 

844
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,440
So I had to I had to use the 
Wayback Machine for it. 

845
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,200
But anyway, so this is in the 
article of the Nylon magazine by

846
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,040
Michael Wood. 
So it says. 

847
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,560
On the subject of Somerhalder, 
de Brev stiffens slightly when I

848
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:09,120
bring up the September Us Weekly
article that appeared to quote 

849
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,360
the two actors confirming the 
relationship. 

850
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,480
The headline Ian Somerhalder and
Nina de Brev, why we love each 

851
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,040
other. 
And Nina says we haven't told 

852
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,520
anyone anything. 
I remember that interview. 

853
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,880
They asked us what do you love 
about your Co stars? 

854
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,440
And we said like 10 different 
things about every single person

855
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,000
on the show. 
But they chose what they want to

856
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,400
write about and it's fine. 
People have that fascination. 

857
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,440
I can't say I'm not interested 
in Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt 

858
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,880
and their families, but 
something you fight really hard 

859
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,320
to preserve and keep private. 
I. 

860
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,200
Don't know what to think of 
that. 

861
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:44,160
Yeah, well, don't worry because 
in April, the pair attended a 

862
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,880
couple philanthropic events 
together, as well as Coachella 

863
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,720
again, where they were spotted 
kissing. 

864
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,200
Yeah. 
So like, they're definitely 

865
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,760
together kissing. 
In May, they were also perhaps 

866
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,600
numerous times walking hand in 
hand on the streets of New York 

867
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,040
City. 
OK, this is also. 

868
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,800
Yeah. 
This is also around the same 

869
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,400
time that Season 4 of The 
Vampire Diaries is filming, and 

870
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,440
it's believed that they are 
living together in the same 

871
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,760
house in Atlanta, GA. 
Wow, so it's serious. 

872
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,960
I know. 
And in the September issue of 

873
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,440
Canada's fashion magazine, 
Nina's asked again about the 

874
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,400
engagement rumors and she said 
eventually I'm going to marry 

875
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,400
and have a family, but not 
anytime soon. 

876
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,000
I'm not going to pull a Miley. 
OK. 

877
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,840
Excuse me, not necessary. 
Why is she throwing Miley under 

878
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,320
the bus? 
Poor Miley. 

879
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,600
I know especially since like 
Miley just got like engaged 

880
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,320
that's like it song. 
She like had kids really young 

881
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,360
or anything. 
Gosh, she was such a punching 

882
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,120
bag at that time. 
That's very true. 

883
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,560
This was I think the same year 
that We Can't Stop came out. 

884
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:56,720
I think 2012, I don't know. 
Crazy time. 

885
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,880
Yeah, well listen to the Miley 
and Liam episode. 

886
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,800
Well anyway, September 4th Nina 
is on the cover of 17 Magazine 

887
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,000
again and she references the 
last time she was on. 

888
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,000
She says the first time I was on
the cover of 17 the cover line 

889
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,320
said Nina why she won't date any
of her Co stars and then cut to 

890
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,720
two years later. 
It's funny that I said that but 

891
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:19,600
you know what? 
It was honestly what I believed 

892
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,000
at the time. 
I didn't want to be dating any 

893
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,320
one of my Co stars. 
My goal in the show was to be 

894
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,800
professional, but sometimes you 
can't help who you have a 

895
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,840
connection with and you can only
fight it for so long, which I 

896
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,000
did for a really, really long 
time. 

897
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,040
Yeah, I mean, the heart wants 
what the heart wants. 

898
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,280
She also said. 
I think stuff like that. 

899
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,800
Seems arbitrary like you know 
what rule about it like to say 

900
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,680
like oh I don't date Co workers 
whatever. 

901
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,760
But if you really are into 
someone, I say just go for it. 

902
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,720
Yeah, because also, I mean, I 
guess like, you know, you could 

903
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:55,200
date someone else and move on 
and not care, but if you have 

904
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,280
that tension and attraction, 
that's going to be there 

905
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,200
regardless and that almost might
be more distracting. 

906
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,760
Yeah, it could just go on for 
years. 

907
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,840
I know. 
And what if that's the person 

908
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,560
you're supposed to be with? 
And then it builds and builds 

909
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,280
and then suddenly it's like, OK,
this is way more intense than I 

910
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,080
than it ever even should have 
been. 

911
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:17,560
I know. 
Then you're. 

912
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,200
Both engaged to other people 
and. 

913
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:23,520
I know. 
It just got way out of hand. 

914
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,600
It could get super messy. 
Well anyway, in the same article

915
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,720
she said I think people should 
be with a person who makes them 

916
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:32,800
smile. 
The minute you're not smiling 

917
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,760
anymore, you shouldn't be in a 
relationship. 

918
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,560
That's what you figure out by 
having good or bad experiences 

919
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,240
with boyfriends and finding out 
what qualities you like and 

920
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:42,480
don't like in a person. 
It's part of growing up and 

921
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,960
learning. 
You should always be with the 

922
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,840
people who make you feel 
happiest. 

923
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,800
So that's I don't. 
Know about that? 

924
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:51,560
Really. 
I just think that's a little 

925
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,200
unrealistic to think like once 
you're not smiling anymore, it 

926
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,040
should be over. 
Like it reminds me, I'm gonna 

927
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,600
have. 
Like ups and downs. 

928
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,440
I know it reminds me of Olivia 
Wilde saying like when your 

929
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,880
pussy dies or something. 
That's what I mean, exit the 

930
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,000
relationship or something. 
Oh yeah. 

931
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,240
I forgot about that. 
If you never smile like you 

932
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:15,000
never smile, you never, never. 
Smile. 

933
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,000
Yeah, maybe then it's over, but 
you're gonna have bad days. 

934
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,440
Even, yeah, if you have like a 
period of not smiling. 

935
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,800
I mean, I think you can still 
try to work on it. 

936
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,640
I don't know. 
Like I'm sure Barack Obama 

937
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,600
didn't make Michelle smile for 
all those years. 10 years. 

938
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,800
It's definitely an idealistic 
thing to say. 

939
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,240
It's sweet, it's a nice, it's a 
nice sentiment. 

940
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:45,440
But yeah, maybe not the most 
realistic, but at least from 

941
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,480
that she's. 
In the high, she's happy. 

942
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,080
You can always gather that Ian 
at that point in time is making 

943
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,760
her feel happy and smiley, and 
that's good. 

944
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,280
Yeah. 
Well anyway, around this time 

945
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,920
Ian officiated his friend's 
wedding and Nina tweeted at Ian 

946
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,640
Somerhalder officiated the 
wedding and did a killer job. 

947
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:08,080
May I add good job Minister 
Somerhalder Winky face. 

948
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,560
And supposedly they spent 
Thanksgiving together in 

949
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,360
Louisiana with his family. 
And then December 5th they were 

950
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,320
spotted Christmas tea, Christmas
tree shopping together. 

951
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,680
It's cute. 
And then it was reported that 

952
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,160
they spent Christmas with each 
other's families before being 

953
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,680
photographed celebrating New 
Year's together in Shanghai, 

954
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:26,800
China. 
What? 

955
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,600
And while on vacation, Nina 
tweeted. 

956
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,640
I'm getting married. 
Exclamation point. 

957
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,280
Exclamation point with an 
attached picture of herself 

958
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,680
feeding a baby tiger. 
She also tweeted He's orange and

959
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,320
soft and we'll be together 
forever. 

960
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,840
Match made in heaven. 
I'm in heaven. 

961
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,680
And then Ian responded. 
Wait, what the fuck? 

962
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,680
Wait, I kind of feel like I feel
like that's deliberate for 

963
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:55,160
headlines because she tweets I'm
getting married and then next 

964
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,160
thing you know, there's going to
be a click fake art article that

965
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,520
says Nina de Brev says she's 
getting married. 

966
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:05,000
Well, to be fair, the tweet was 
attached with a photo of her and

967
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,240
the tiger, but still. 
I know, but like like it's so 

968
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:09,240
easy. 
That's just. 

969
00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:11,000
Like, no, I get what you mean. 
You never know. 

970
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,520
Yeah. 
I almost fell for it. 

971
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,960
I know that's why I kind of, I 
got stretched it out a little 

972
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,680
bit by doing the exclamation 
point. 

973
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,760
Exclamation point. 
So it's now 2013 and January 

974
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,440
9th, Ian tweeted. 
Happy birthday, beautiful. 

975
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,160
And there wasn't much news 
regarding Ian Nina in the 

976
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,440
beginning of this year. 
But in March they spent Easter 

977
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,360
together in Toronto with Nina's 
family. 

978
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,880
And while in Canada, they also 
visited a Vampire Diaries fan 

979
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,720
who was sick in the hospital 
together. 

980
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,080
That's nice. 
I know. 

981
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,760
Easter. 
Easter seems pretty real to me. 

982
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,440
I know, like Easter. 
Easter is intimate like 

983
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,920
Halloween. 
Halloween you could spend with 

984
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,840
anybody. 
Yeah. 

985
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,080
Years. 
Yeah, the. 

986
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:02,360
Easter. 
That's serious, I know. 

987
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,040
April 11th both rushed to the 
Animal Hospital to care for 

988
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,320
Nina's sick cat, Moki, and some 
sites report that they share the

989
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,720
cat, and maybe they do, but Moki
for the most part seems to 

990
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:17,600
originally have been Nina's was.
Moki, OK. 

991
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,440
Yeah, it seems like they were 
OK. 

992
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,280
I think they just need to have 
like minor surgery and Ian even 

993
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,200
post a picture of him and OK at 
the hospital together. 

994
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,080
But then on May 9th, after 
3:00-ish years together, it's 

995
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,080
officially reported that they 
split up. 

996
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,480
What for good? 
Yeah. 

997
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,040
That just came out of nowhere. 
I thought we were building. 

998
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,280
I thought we were escalating to.
More I know. 

999
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,480
I feel like we just learned that
they were. 

1000
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,160
Out of nowhere. 
The fans. 

1001
00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:49,440
Hey guys, all those Vampire 
fans, do they have a ship name? 

1002
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,560
The character's ship name is 
Delana. 

1003
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,480
I think the, I think the actors,
it's like neon. 

1004
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,560
Doesn't ring up the roll out the
tongue, but all the neon fans 

1005
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,800
like guys, we feel you. 
That must. 

1006
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,760
I'm so sorry, I know. 
You guys were just at the at the

1007
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,320
hospital with the cat. 
What's going on? 

1008
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,880
I know. 
Terrible news. 

1009
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,760
I wonder too. 
I wonder if they were already 

1010
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,160
having stressors and bad days 
and then this cat thing happened

1011
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,120
and just feels like oh 
everything's going to shit. 

1012
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,280
I know you know what. 
I mean, and then they still 

1013
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,960
there's work together. 
I know. 

1014
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:33,360
Well, there's still a little bit
more. 

1015
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,000
So do they get back together? 
I guess we'll see you. 

1016
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,680
Already I said for good and you 
said yes. 

1017
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,440
OK, well, you whatever. 
OK, what happens next? 

1018
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,560
What happens next? 
Around the same time, Ian 

1019
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,280
tweeted a thought for today. 
People change and forget to tell

1020
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,680
each other. 
Lena Hellman, playwright 19 O 5 

1021
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,320
to 1984. 
And then he deleted the tweet. 

1022
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,920
He he quoted a Nina. 
What was the playwright's name? 

1023
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,120
Lillian Hellman. 
Oh, I thought you said Nina's. 

1024
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,960
Maybe, I said, Nina, I'm sorry. 
It's Lillian. 

1025
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,960
I have Nina's name on my brain. 
Yeah, it's Lillian. 

1026
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,520
OK, but still shady. 
Yeah, I know. 

1027
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,040
That's a. 
Sub Tweet. 

1028
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,160
Mel, you taught me. 
You taught me what a sub tweet 

1029
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,280
is like in the day. 
Yeah. 

1030
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,000
Yeah, I guess. 
You also taught me what Mel. 

1031
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,760
You also taught me what a selfie
is. 

1032
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,200
Whoa. 
That's crazy. 

1033
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:41,080
This was a long time ago, guys. 
Not like recently because it was

1034
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,320
like middle school. 
Yeah, we don't want to use 

1035
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,000
subtweet that linko anymore. 
I know, but it it was when you 

1036
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,320
tweet about someone else 
without, you know, saying who it

1037
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,000
is, but subliminally yes. 
Well, yeah. 

1038
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,160
Usually in a negative way. 
It was always in a negative way,

1039
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,120
Yeah. 
Wow, OK. 

1040
00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:04,920
Well, anyway, a couple days 
later, both of them presented on

1041
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,760
stage together at The CW 
Networks 2013 Uprunts. 

1042
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,360
And apparently there's no 
awkwardness and the awkwardness 

1043
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,640
and they appeared very 
professional and cordial. 

1044
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:21,000
So July 10th, a little bit 
later, about two months after 

1045
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,000
they officially broke up, quote 
UN quote, they began filming the

1046
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,080
5th season of The Vampire 
Diaries. 

1047
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,160
And although the season was 
reportedly written back in April

1048
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,880
of that year year, which was 
about a month before the news 

1049
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,880
broke that they broke up, the 
season keeps Nina and Ian's 

1050
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,240
characters apart for a good 
amount of the season. 

1051
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:46,040
So it's almost very lucky in a 
way for them it kind of worked 

1052
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:50,120
out because spoiler alert. 
Like Nina's character goes away 

1053
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:55,640
to college and they're just kept
away from each other for various

1054
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,120
circumstances, so they don't 
really have to think. 

1055
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,320
That is a coincidence. 
I don't know, it seems like 

1056
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,840
almost too big of a coincidence,
but they do have to still 

1057
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,920
occasionally act as a as a 
couple and like kiss and stuff. 

1058
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:14,400
But it is very much a 
coincidence that for a large 

1059
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,800
amount of the season they don't 
have to share scenes together. 

1060
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,800
Interesting. 
Yeah, they still have the same 

1061
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,360
amount of chemistry I'd say. 
I don't think I really noticed a

1062
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,160
drop in chemistry in season 5 
though. 

1063
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,840
That's good they kept it 
professional. 

1064
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,280
Yeah, and supposedly when 
filming began, Ian tweeted 

1065
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,080
wrapped. 
Crazy to be back on these stages

1066
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,720
in Georgia. 
Wow, so many memories here. 

1067
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,000
Season 5. 
This show has lasted more than 

1068
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,880
most mem marriages. 
And then he deleted the. 

1069
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,720
Then he deleted it. 
Why? 

1070
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,760
I don't know, I guess because 
like, the show lasted longer 

1071
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:55,640
than his relationship with Nina,
so it's like kind of a dig at 

1072
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,520
that. 
I don't know. 

1073
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:02,240
Well anyway, in August, Nina 
seems to support or confirm the 

1074
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,720
rumor that they broke up because
she tells Cosmopolitan that her 

1075
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,000
new found friendship with 
Julianne Ho or Huff, Julianne 

1076
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,520
Huff is built on more than just 
their shared trauma of going 

1077
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,640
through recent breakups. 
Julianne Huff and Ryan Seacrest 

1078
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,000
had recently broken up. 
Yeah, that was a crazy couple. 

1079
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:24,320
I honestly forgot that they 
dated, but in September 9th, Ian

1080
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,800
sparked speculation that they 
may have gone back together. 

1081
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,760
He snapped a picture of Nina on 
the cover of the Affirmations 

1082
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,720
Cosmo and he captions it in a 
store this morning. 

1083
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,160
Who do I see? 
The one and the only Nina de 

1084
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,240
Brev. 
These things are almost gone, so

1085
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,600
if you haven't gotten this 
magazine off the shelf, get one.

1086
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:43,960
One word. 
Stunning. 

1087
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,840
Congrats Nina XO, Ian and Nina 
responds back. 

1088
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,600
Thank you Smoldy. 
Weird. 

1089
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,400
Yeah. 
Could just be him being like a 

1090
00:59:54,400 --> 01:00:00,240
clingy ex recent ex-boyfriend or
maybe they are still somewhat 

1091
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,120
seeing each other. 
I don't know. 

1092
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,720
In November there are rumors 
that Ian and Nina have been 

1093
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,520
casually hooking up after the 
breakup and are most likely to 

1094
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,040
get back together, but at the 
same time, there's rumors that 

1095
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,000
Nina and Derek Hough are dating.
But again, there's no real 

1096
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,560
weight or water to any of these 
rumors. 

1097
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:22,000
On December 9th, Nina tweeted. 
Happy birthday Smoldy, Hope we 

1098
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,200
had a beautiful day filled with 
smiles and gluten free cake, but

1099
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,360
not too much cake. 
We're on The CW. 

1100
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,760
And then like the tongue out 
emoji. 

1101
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,640
Oh. 
My gosh. 

1102
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,920
And then it's 2014 and in 
January, Nina and Ian won 

1103
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:40,600
favorite on Screen Chemistry and
accepted the award together. 

1104
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,400
And they have an acceptance 
speech, which is what I sent to 

1105
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:44,840
you. 
It's #2. 

1106
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,240
OK. 
And is this the what? 

1107
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,440
What award show is this? 
I believe it's at the People's 

1108
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,640
Choice Awards. 
And. 

1109
01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:00,100
Still, still hot and the 
People's Choice for favorite on 

1110
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:05,560
screen chemistry is Ian 
Somerhandler and Nina Bill. 

1111
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,600
Brown, Ian. 
Somerhalder also wins favorite 

1112
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,160
sci-fi. 
TV actor. 

1113
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,520
Wow. 
Thank you. 

1114
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,600
Wow this is crazy. 
You believe this is almost 5? 

1115
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,440
Years in the making. 
Right. 

1116
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,160
Yeah. 
But, you know, I think what's 

1117
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,720
crazier though, Ian, is that at 
the beginning of the show. 

1118
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,480
Elena actually hated Damon. 
You're hooking up with my 

1119
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,160
brother. 
Well, you killed my brother. 

1120
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,800
Then eventually she fell in love
with me. 

1121
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,440
And then we started dating on 
the show we. 

1122
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,680
Started dating in real life. 
And then we broke up in real 

1123
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,400
life. 
And yet our characters are still

1124
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,880
dating on the show. 
It's a good thing it's not. 

1125
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:48,360
Awkward. 
Well, it's. 

1126
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:54,240
A good thing we have chemistry. 
Thank you guys so much. 

1127
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,840
Oh my God, I can't believe he 
kissed her on the cheek. 

1128
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,160
I know I was going to remark on 
that. 

1129
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,760
So like after the speech, he 
kisses her on the cheek. 

1130
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,160
I can't believe they even 
acknowledged dating and that 

1131
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,680
they presented together. 
They must be like pretty chill 

1132
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,320
with. 
Each other. 

1133
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,160
I know, isn't that kind of crazy
too chill? 

1134
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,440
What do you guys like? 
What's in the water where you 

1135
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,720
are cuz? 
I don't know what to make of 

1136
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,800
that. 
I know, right? 

1137
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,240
They planned that ahead of time,
but that doesn't really mean 

1138
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,760
anything I guess. 
That's why people think like, 

1139
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:33,440
maybe they're like not together,
but it's still like a maybe type

1140
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,200
of thing. 
That like limbo period where 

1141
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,400
you're kind of in denial and 
you're like, yeah, yeah, You're 

1142
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,960
like able to make jokes about it
'cause you're like, we might get

1143
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,160
back together. 
You're not seeing anybody else 

1144
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,840
at the moment. 
So you can be flirty, but then 

1145
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,880
it's confusing. 
Yeah. 

1146
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,240
So I mean, it kind of confirmed 
that they broke up, at least 

1147
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,520
people speculate that's because 
Ian wanted to settle down and 

1148
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,880
get married and have kids, but 
she wasn't ready, which kind of 

1149
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,840
makes sense because at the time 
he was 36 and she was only 25. 

1150
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:08,440
So that kind of age difference 
probably really was brought into

1151
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,640
the light because he was getting
older, but she was still pretty 

1152
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,640
young actively. 
Yeah, 36, I can believe it. 

1153
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,080
Like, we've heard that excuse a 
couple times in the show and 

1154
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,680
sometimes I don't really believe
it, especially when they're 

1155
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,320
like. 20. 
Eight or something and I'm like,

1156
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,800
I doubt it, but 36, yeah, I 
could see. 

1157
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:30,800
And, and that's a significant at
that point, it's just so 

1158
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:36,600
different like 36 like OK, 
almost 40 in a couple years and 

1159
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,920
but 25 like if you're not ready,
like you might not be ready for 

1160
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,920
like 10 more years. 
So I. 

1161
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,880
Know and then he's like kind of 
a wild I know and then he's at 

1162
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,800
an in his late 40s by that point
and that's kind of old to be 

1163
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,040
starting to have kids. 
Yeah, makes sense. 

1164
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,560
But anyway, in February, on 
February 11th, Nina was spotted 

1165
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,320
getting cozy with Liam Hemsworth
at a bar. 

1166
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,480
Supposedly. 
What? 

1167
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,280
I know Liam Hemsworth and he was
just, she was just digging at 

1168
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,080
Miley a little bit ago too. 
Yeah, what's that about? 

1169
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:10,960
I think I do. 
Remember that? 

1170
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,000
I remember that from our Miley 
and Liam episode. 

1171
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,400
In May they were at Pally Fest 
together or Paley Fest together 

1172
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,200
for Vampire Diaries panel Nina 
and Ian, and they were 

1173
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,800
supposedly very friendly and 
there wasn't really any 

1174
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,160
awkwardness. 
And probably because of this, 

1175
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:26,960
around this time there were 
reports that they were going to 

1176
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,560
get back together. 
But then in June, Nina was 

1177
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,520
spotted making out with James 
Marsden in a bar in New Orleans.

1178
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,600
Hey, good for her. 
Like, you know. 

1179
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:42,000
She came. 
She came to Hollywood from 

1180
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,160
Toronto, and then she gets in 
this relationship right away. 

1181
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,240
Now she's like, yeah, I can 
like, you know, meet these 

1182
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:56,000
Hollywood guys and like, like. 
I mean, it's James Morrison. 

1183
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,080
I know. 
I can't get upset about that. 

1184
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,000
I know there were also reports 
that she was potentially seeing 

1185
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,680
Muse member Dominic Howard also.
Oh. 

1186
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,840
And then around this time, also 
towards the tail end of June, 

1187
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,040
Ian was spotted for the first 
time with Nikki Reed. 

1188
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:20,720
MMM, who is? 
Slash was maybe supposedly a 

1189
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,440
friend of Nina's. 
The couple was seen jogging 

1190
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,600
together in California before 
heading to a farmers market, and

1191
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,760
they looked very couply. 
Oh they they love farmers 

1192
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,240
markets, I bet. 
I know that seems so them. 

1193
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:38,040
But I OK, so in our previous 
podcast another by Twilight, we 

1194
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,560
did an episode about Nikki Reed 
and I remember thinking that 

1195
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,200
like her and Nina were these 
great friends, but like we 

1196
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,840
haven't even heard of her. 
Like, were they really good 

1197
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,720
friends? 
Kind of overblown. 

1198
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,960
I think that's totally overblown
because I could, I looked into 

1199
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:56,000
it and I couldn't find like any 
evidence that they were friends.

1200
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,480
I feel like maybe they probably 
like took a picture like once or

1201
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,960
twice at some event or something
and maybe like we're friendly 

1202
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:08,320
because like Twilight slash 
Vampire Diaries, they probably 

1203
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,000
overlapped a little bit, but I 
don't think they were really 

1204
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,120
friends at all. 
Yeah, and it's not like they 

1205
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,080
would have had grown up 
together. 

1206
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,080
I feel like some of these 
celebrities, it's like we were 

1207
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,240
in the 3rd grade class together.
They live in LA and like they 

1208
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,280
all just kind of know each 
other. 

1209
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,320
But like, you know, it was in 
Bulgaria and Toronto. 

1210
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,120
Doesn't seem like they have so 
many mutuals too. 

1211
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,320
I definitely think that was 
overblown completely. 

1212
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,600
OK, setting the record straight,
yeah. 

1213
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,120
But after reports got out that 
he might be with Nikki, Ian 

1214
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,080
posted to Instagram. 
He said, everyone, I hate to 

1215
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,800
break it to you, but you have 
zero clue what really goes on in

1216
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,640
other people's lives. 
It does you or anyone else any 

1217
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,040
good at all to protect negative 
energy out there. 

1218
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,720
There's no harm here. 
I ask you to back off with your 

1219
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,080
negativity, focus that energy 
elsewhere in a positive manner, 

1220
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,520
and let people live their lives.
It's only fair. 

1221
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,360
Thank you and goodnight. 
And then he deleted the post 

1222
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,520
soon. 
After of course. 

1223
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,080
It's just making we laugh 
because we're doing the complete

1224
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,200
opposite. 
I know. 

1225
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,560
I mean, Nina says she gets it 
so. 

1226
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,160
No, but I think people must have
been, he's like, back off. 

1227
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,080
People must have been like 
hating in the comments and 

1228
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,880
getting really upset, right? 
Yeah, definitely. 

1229
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,840
They were definitely receiving a
lot of a lot of hate. 

1230
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,600
So I can understand. 
Like, we're not hating. 

1231
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,400
We're not haters, you know. 
No, no, no, no. 

1232
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,080
So he's not talking to us. 
We're not coming. 

1233
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,800
In business, but yeah, but yeah.
But this is that he hasn't 

1234
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:45,240
deleted the post, so technically
he never said any of that. 

1235
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,000
He's frequently tweeting and 
then deleting. 

1236
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:49,840
I know. 
He gets nervous. 

1237
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,320
I guess so maybe he doesn't have
that media training that Nina 

1238
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,360
has. 
So anyway, so Nikki and Ian were

1239
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:01,080
spotted in June and in July 
filming begins for season 6 of 

1240
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,040
The Vampire Diaries. 
And I don't know when the season

1241
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:08,320
was written but it seems heavily
influenced by the real life 

1242
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,200
breakup of Nina and Ian. 
And I mean, maybe it was other 

1243
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,280
reasons, but for the majority of
the season Nina and Ian's 

1244
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,560
characters are kept nearly 
completely apart for the whole 

1245
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:19,600
season. 
I'd be. 

1246
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,680
Pissed if I was a fan of the 
show. 

1247
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,200
I know. 
And even like OK, I don't want 

1248
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,880
to be, I don't want to spoil 
anything, but Nina and Ian's 

1249
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:33,439
characters get together in like 
season 4 or something. 

1250
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,680
And I texted my friend who loves
the show and watches it and I'm 

1251
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,520
like Oh my God, they just got 
together. 

1252
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,319
I can't wait for more Elena and 
Damon. 

1253
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:43,479
And she was like Oh my God, just
wait. 

1254
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,800
Because then obviously Nina and 
Ian broke up. 

1255
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,920
So then their characters were 
like hardly together afterwards.

1256
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:53,359
No. 
I know. 

1257
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,680
But. 
What I will say is that it's 

1258
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,680
pretty seamless and it actually 
does work well. 

1259
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,520
Like it makes sense why their 
characters wouldn't be together.

1260
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,080
I think they creatively worked 
around the breakup, I think. 

1261
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,000
Well, that's gonna say that's 
disappointing. 

1262
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:13,520
I know it's disappointing, and 
in season 6 though, you can kind

1263
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,560
of tell the chemistry is a 
little different. 

1264
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,880
This is not turning anyone off 
from watching The Vampire 

1265
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:18,760
Diaries. 
I love it. 

1266
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,680
I even love season 6. 
It's one of my favorite seasons 

1267
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,920
of the show. 
But Nina and Ian's chemistry is 

1268
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,560
very different in season 6 and I
will say that some of their 

1269
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,240
scenes are a little awkward. 
It's not the same as the 

1270
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,319
previous seasons, but I think 
towards the end of the season 

1271
01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:38,880
when their characters do have a 
couple more scenes together 

1272
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,479
because it's later in the 
season, maybe they had a couple 

1273
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,680
more months to like work 
together and become more 

1274
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,439
comfortable. 
I think their chemistry does 

1275
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,680
feel back to how it had been in 
previous seasons. 

1276
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,680
I feel like I might have been 
skipping ahead, but I remember 

1277
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,480
her leaving the show. 
Wait one SEC, I need to I need 

1278
01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:57,960
to go to the bathroom real 
quick. 

1279
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,520
OK. 
Sorry, one second. 

1280
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:04,880
I'll go too. 
I'll go too. 

1281
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:07,240
Knock, that was. 
Abrupt. 

1282
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:16,800
It's an emergency. 
OK, back back to the episode. 

1283
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,480
I remember her leaving the show.
Yeah, well, we're not at that 

1284
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:22,040
just yet. 
OK, OK. 

1285
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,080
So in August, Nina told HuffPost
Live. 

1286
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,080
It's funny because I try not to 
read any of that kind of stuff, 

1287
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,880
but when you start getting text 
messages from your friends from 

1288
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,560
a link or something and they're 
like, Oh my God, are you really 

1289
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,800
dating this person? 
I'll be like, I talked to him 

1290
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:41,960
last night for a second or yeah,
I saw him at this party and all 

1291
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:43,320
of a sudden you're dating 
somebody. 

1292
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,000
Especially after Comic Con. 
Apparently I was dating like 10 

1293
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,880
people. 
I had a busy weekend. 

1294
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,680
Honestly, I need to get a steady
boyfriend so that people can 

1295
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,880
stop speculating. 
Sounds kind of annoying, but 

1296
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:59,440
also sounds fun. 
So in October, and keep in mind 

1297
01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:02,400
Nikki and Ian were first spotted
in June. 

1298
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,880
By October, they're openly 
dating, lots of PDA and 

1299
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,320
Instagram pics and they even 
adopt A horse together. 

1300
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:14,360
And there's rumors that Nina 
isn't OK with the new couple and

1301
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,040
that she thinks that Ian is 
being very insensitive with his 

1302
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,880
flaunting of it. 
It's reported that The Vampire 

1303
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,920
Diaries producers banned Nikki 
from coming to stat, but who 

1304
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,880
knows if that's really true. 
A source told Hollywood Life 

1305
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,600
that this is exactly why 
producers actually tried to 

1306
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,880
forbid Nina for and Ian from 
dating. 

1307
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,040
They're worried something like 
this would happen. 

1308
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,040
Ian and Nina tried to hide the 
relationship for so long because

1309
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,880
they're very strictly forbidden 
from that, but obviously they 

1310
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,960
did go there. 
Exactly what they promised 

1311
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,360
wouldn't happen has happened, 
and it's getting in the way of 

1312
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,440
their work. 
So that is 2015 and it's January

1313
01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:54,800
18th and it's announced that Ian
and Nikki are engaged after 

1314
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,360
roughly 6 months of dating. 
Wow, that's kind of Nikki's MO 

1315
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:02,520
because she also got engaged to 
her first husband, Paul McDonald

1316
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,320
after like three months. 
Oh my God. 

1317
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:10,040
Even less. 
And some say sources say that 

1318
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,520
Nina is fine with the news, but 
others say the opposite. 

1319
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,200
A lot of people speculate that 
Nina gave Ian the cold shoulder 

1320
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,560
after engagement rumors. 
We can't really say for sure. 

1321
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,760
But years later, one of their Co
stars, Claire Holt, went on 

1322
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,520
record and said that they are 
very professional and never 

1323
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,240
weird with one another during 
the filming of the last seasons.

1324
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,360
And it seems like that could be 
true. 

1325
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,080
It seems like they're very 
amicable. 

1326
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,080
Nobody has said otherwise 
really. 

1327
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,360
It's just mostly. 
I know it must, especially since

1328
01:12:39,480 --> 01:12:41,680
it was only six months, you 
know? 

1329
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,080
Yeah, I mean, he's free to do 
whatever he wants and like, 

1330
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,920
obviously, but it's just tough 
that they have to see each other

1331
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,800
at work. 
Usually if your ex gets engaged,

1332
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,080
you just kind of like see a post
online or something and then 

1333
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:59,120
you're like, but to have to like
witness that and people probably

1334
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,840
saying Congrats to him and all 
that, like that's, that must 

1335
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,920
sting. 
I know especially if maybe her 

1336
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,480
and Nikki were friends. 
I mean, we don't have any 

1337
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:10,920
evidence that says there were, 
but people seem to think that 

1338
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,280
they were. 
So who knows? 

1339
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,040
In the beginning of April and 
this so this was a couple months

1340
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:19,120
after Ian and Nikki got engaged,
Nina announced that the sixth 

1341
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:23,080
season will be her last season 
and she won't be on the show 

1342
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,120
anymore. 
And she said, I always knew I 

1343
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,760
wanted Elena's story to be a 
sixth season adventure. 

1344
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,760
And within those six years, I 
got the journey of a lifetime. 

1345
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,640
Coincidence. 
Especially since the sixth 

1346
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,680
season has already wrapped, so 
it seems like she's announcing 

1347
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,960
this after the season is already
filmed. 

1348
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,680
You would think that maybe this 
would be an announcement before 

1349
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,520
the season was filmed, you know?
Wait a SEC, so they don't get to

1350
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,920
film like a resolution to her 
character? 

1351
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:56,760
I think they still have like a 
couple episodes left to do, but 

1352
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,440
for the most part the whole 
season is mostly filmed. 

1353
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,760
Oh, so she announced it after it
had wrapped? 

1354
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,440
Yeah, I think there's no maybe 
she just wanted to do something 

1355
01:14:06,440 --> 01:14:08,160
left to do. 
Yeah, OK, OK. 

1356
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,640
Yeah, but. 
Just interesting. 

1357
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:12,680
Yeah. 
Especially since like come out 

1358
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,200
earlier saying this, you know? 
Yeah, like they seemed 

1359
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:21,400
friendlier before, but now that 
he's really moved on, it's hard.

1360
01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:24,320
But honestly smart. 
Like those CW shows, once they 

1361
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:28,160
get to season 7 you don't want 
to be it on on it anymore 

1362
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:32,040
anyway. 
Yeah, and her contract had only 

1363
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,040
been for six seasons anyway, so 
it wasn't like she was breaking 

1364
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,640
her contract. 
Like it'd come to its kind of 

1365
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,720
natural conclusion. 
It just kind of worked at kind 

1366
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,680
of the right time that that just
also so happened to be the time 

1367
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,160
when her ex was engaged. 
Yeah. 

1368
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:50,600
So anyway, April 10th e-news 
posts an article titled An Open 

1369
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,920
Letter to anyone who thinks Nina
de Brev left The Vampire Diaries

1370
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,560
because of a breakup and Ian 
repost the article to his 

1371
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:01,440
Twitter with the caption Way to 
go at EO Online. 

1372
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,880
This is a very informed article 
about The Vampire Diaries. 

1373
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,200
Thank you. 
Check this out everyone. 

1374
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:13,520
Oh my gosh, open letters were 
all the rage at that time. 

1375
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,360
So true an. 
Open letter to my roommate's 

1376
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:17,560
mom. 
Yeah. 

1377
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,440
It was like anyone you could 
think of. 

1378
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,240
So I said so. 
It was to anyone who thinks, to 

1379
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,600
anyone who thinks the season, 
what it what was it? 

1380
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,440
It was an open letter to anyone 
who thinks Nina de Brev left The

1381
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:35,600
Vampire Diaries because of a 
breakup. 

1382
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,600
So specific. 
I know. 

1383
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,840
So I think they still have like 
1 episode or so left to do. 

1384
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,000
So on April 13th, Nina posted 
Twitter behind the scenes 

1385
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:49,320
shooting a Damon and Elena scene
with Somerhalder AKA at Ian 

1386
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,040
Somerhalder with a photo of 
them. 

1387
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:56,440
And then a couple days later 
Nina posted Twitter hashtag FBF.

1388
01:15:56,440 --> 01:15:59,240
Is that flashback Friday? 
Yeah, I've forgotten all about 

1389
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,880
all those acronyms they used to 
have on Instagram. 

1390
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,840
Flashback Friday to last week 
with Ian Somerhalder shooting 

1391
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,760
our final Damian Elena scene and
accompanied with a picture of 

1392
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,320
two Polaroids of Nina and Ian 
pose together. 

1393
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,120
And then a couple days later 
after that. 

1394
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,920
After 10 months of dating and 
four months of being engaged, 

1395
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,640
Eid and Nikki get married in 
Malibu, CA. 

1396
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:24,680
It's. 
Official. 

1397
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,280
Yep, official. 
It's very fast and very 

1398
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,640
unexpected, apparently even to 
the guests. 

1399
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,760
According to Nikki, they invited
their guests to what they 

1400
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:33,760
thought would be a house warming
party. 

1401
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,880
It was very low key with only 
their closest family and friends

1402
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,720
in attendance. 
Nina was not invited, but Nina 

1403
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,600
was apparently invited, but she 
was not in attendance. 

1404
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:49,240
Yeah, I would not want to go. 
And also Nikki, if I was Nikki, 

1405
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,880
I would not want his ex there at
the wedding. 

1406
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,400
That's crazy. 
I know. 

1407
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,840
Maybe it was just a polite 
invitation. 

1408
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,840
Maybe everybody kind of knew. 
I know like, maybe like 

1409
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,600
everybody from the cast was 
invited and be awkward if she 

1410
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,640
was the only one that wasn't 
true. 

1411
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,360
And then May 15th, about a month
or so later, Nina post a photo 

1412
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,080
to Twitter of her and Ian 
covered cake from when they 

1413
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:12,680
filmed their last scene 
together. 

1414
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,200
Just her and Ian. 
Just her and Ian. 

1415
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,720
Weird, I know, kind of holding 
on to him a little bit. 

1416
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,640
Nita commented on Ian's wedding 
for the first time. 

1417
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,720
She was asked by the Huffington 
Post. 

1418
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,800
She said. 
When I heard about the wedding, 

1419
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,000
I thought it was beautiful. 
They look happy and I am happy. 

1420
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,000
So I don't see why there should 
be a problem with that. 

1421
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,240
The dramas in the media, it's 
not with us. 

1422
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,200
But of course we're on a teen 
drama show. 

1423
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:39,040
Everyone's going to look for 
drama. 

1424
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,080
If there's no drama, there's 
nothing to write about. 

1425
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,800
I just ignore it. 
We didn't break up because 

1426
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,560
anything bad happened or because
there wasn't love or friendship.

1427
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,360
I love him and the friendship is
still strong and I think he's 

1428
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,640
great and I care about him, and 
that didn't change. 

1429
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,720
Yes, we're professional and 
that's fine. 

1430
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,440
We were friends long before we 
dated and we still are. 

1431
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,720
Well, then Nina was off the 
show. 

1432
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:02,080
So in 2016, there really wasn't 
anything to remark about them 

1433
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,040
but that. 
In 2017, in January, Nina 

1434
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,680
revealed that she would return 
for The Vampire Diaries season 8

1435
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,080
finale, which was also this the 
series finale. 

1436
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,480
And on February 6th, she saw her
scene for the finale. 

1437
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,440
She's only in it for about a 
minute, Max, what's of the 

1438
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,400
finale? 
But the time that she's in it, 

1439
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,200
no offense to anybody, I don't 
want to spoil too much, but she 

1440
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,840
and Ian have to act like a 
couple and they have to like, 

1441
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,440
kiss so. 
So is it just like a flash 

1442
01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:32,440
forward, like they end up 
together? 

1443
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,640
Yeah. 
That's kind of disappointing, 

1444
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,280
though. 
I feel like Gossip Girl did the 

1445
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,320
same thing with, yeah, Serena 
and Dan ending up together. 

1446
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,840
It's like, OK, but we haven't 
seen any build up to this now. 

1447
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,840
Like it's like not that 
satisfying. 

1448
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,120
It's uncanny how similar it is 
to Dan and Serena. 

1449
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,120
That's actually dated and they 
broke up and then they were not 

1450
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,720
together in any scenes for a 
while and then in the last 

1451
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,720
episode they just randomly give 
back. 

1452
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,080
Again, I don't want to spoil, 
but it's not like they were 

1453
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:05,240
like, not together. 
Nina's character was in a coma 

1454
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:10,160
for the last couple of years, so
it wasn't like they're broken 

1455
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,240
up. 
She was just like in a coma. 

1456
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:13,880
Oh. 
My goodness. 

1457
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,200
That must have been really bad 
at that point. 

1458
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,840
Again, I like season 6 for. 
It. 

1459
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,400
I like season 6, all the seasons
going up to season 6. 

1460
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:27,320
Season 7 and season 8 definitely
are not that great, but by the 

1461
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:30,320
time you get to season 7 you're 
like, well, I'm almost done with

1462
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,640
the show so I might as well keep
going with it, you know? 

1463
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,960
Yeah, especially since season 8 
it's only like half the regular 

1464
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,240
amount of episodes, so you can 
knock that out pretty easily. 

1465
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,040
I felt that way rewatching 
Gossip Girl. 

1466
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,160
Like the later seasons. 
I was like, yeah, it's bad, but 

1467
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,400
it's not that bad. 
Like yeah, I'm still having fun.

1468
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:55,120
So February 7th, the day after 
Nina Shaw her last or her last 

1469
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:59,040
scene for the final episode, 
Nikki posts a photo of herself, 

1470
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,680
Ian, and Nina together with a 
long and lengthy caption. 

1471
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,680
And I'm only going to read a 
portion of it. 

1472
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,840
So, she wrote. 
For the last few years, we 

1473
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,960
thought addressing any baseless 
rumors with silence was the best

1474
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,160
way. 
Besides, who wants to respond to

1475
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,200
made-up stories about friends, 
backstabbing friends, cheating 

1476
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,040
exes, or cast members exiting 
shows on lowbrow websites like 

1477
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,040
Hollywood Life that are just 
perpetuating trends that precede

1478
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,160
us? 
Yuck. 

1479
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:27,200
I now see that silence was taken
as an opportunity. 

1480
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,160
Fill in the blanks with even 
more falsities and choose your 

1481
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,280
stories. 
And we, yes, we believe we have 

1482
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,720
a more responsibility to young 
girls, girls to end the 

1483
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,600
narrative. 
Because at the end of all of 

1484
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:41,240
this, those young girls are the 
ones who lose their passion and 

1485
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,720
endless devotion for ATV show is
being taken advantage, replaced 

1486
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,280
with feelings of anger through 
divisive techniques. 

1487
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,360
And even worse, their minds are 
being shaped and molded as their

1488
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,960
views of themselves and other 
girls and what those dynamics 

1489
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:54,800
should look like are being 
formed. 

1490
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,880
So here's to putting and end all
those fake stories on of onset 

1491
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,600
jealousy, betrayal, made-up, 
friendships lost, and women 

1492
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,560
hating women. 
Because at the end of the day, 

1493
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,040
that's what this is all about. 
Teaching girls that you have to 

1494
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:10,320
hate other girls only breeds a 
generation of women who believe 

1495
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,040
you have to hate other women. 
Wow, that's. 

1496
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,360
A lot. 
It's there's even more, but I 

1497
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,160
only read a small portion of it.
I. 

1498
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,200
Don't know if she would. 
Say all that. 

1499
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,160
I know. 
And then comparatively on the 

1500
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,320
same day, Nina also post a photo
of the three to them with the 

1501
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,920
caption. 
Can't believe how time flies. 

1502
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,560
Farewell dinner with the team, 
Summer read. 

1503
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,000
So good catching up with these 
goofballs. 

1504
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:40,720
All love and that's it. 
Hers is like so go with the 

1505
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,880
flow, happy. 
Yeah, I know. 

1506
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,000
Maybe Nikki was getting a lot of
hate for a lot like a long time 

1507
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,240
from Vampire Diaries people. 
So like, she was over. 

1508
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,120
Overcompensating. 
Overcompensating, but like 

1509
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,720
thinking that this mattered more
than it does. 

1510
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,640
She's like fanning the flames a 
bit with this. 

1511
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,840
Yeah, yeah. 
And I don't know, I feel like 

1512
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,120
she's reading too much into it 
and like making it about 

1513
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,920
something that it's not. 
It's normal for there to be 

1514
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:11,160
awkwardness between an ex and a 
current partner. 

1515
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,920
Like it's like normal for those 
people to not maybe want to be 

1516
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,000
in the same room. 
And then that's just like the 

1517
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,800
way it is. 
It's not women hating women. 

1518
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,320
It's just like, why would you 
want to hang out with your ex's 

1519
01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:24,240
new significant other unless you
were totally over it? 

1520
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,520
But even then, like, we're all 
human, you're going to have some

1521
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,320
weird feelings about it. 
Like, don't make people feel 

1522
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:34,480
like they're like crazy for 
projecting, you know, kind of 

1523
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:36,800
realistic expectations onto 
something. 

1524
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:41,200
Especially if people thought 
that her and Nina were friends, 

1525
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,240
it's not of the realm of 
possibility that people would 

1526
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:47,640
think it's weird that you're 
dating your supposed friends ex.

1527
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,720
Yeah. 
I mean, yeah, I feel for her. 

1528
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,680
People were saying horrible 
things to her. 

1529
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,600
That sucks, but I get what 
you're saying. 

1530
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,160
Like, it it there's just two 
separate things going on here, 

1531
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,520
like the fans and then their 
relationship. 

1532
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,720
And yeah, yeah, I don't think 
you should make people think 

1533
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:09,880
like it's just the patriarchy 
that makes girls not be friends 

1534
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,200
with their boyfriends ex or 
something. 

1535
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,480
Like, I don't know. 
I I think I think there are real

1536
01:23:15,480 --> 01:23:18,800
reasons for that. 
Yeah, I feel like at that time 

1537
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,920
period, people were doing like, 
I hate to say a little too much 

1538
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,720
with the women hating women, 
blah, blah, blah. 

1539
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,880
It's like, OK, like there are 
like, there are some, like, 

1540
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,680
valid things that you can 
criticize people for. 

1541
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,040
We don't have to all be friends.
Yeah. 

1542
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,800
I mean, the message is sweet 
overall and like, she seems 

1543
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,600
concerned about Young girls 
getting swept up in this hate or

1544
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:45,320
whatever. 
And yeah, but I I agree it's a 

1545
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,960
bit. 
Much maybe she was just like, I 

1546
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,760
mean, not to offend Nikki or 
anything, maybe she's just 

1547
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:55,360
really hormonal or something 
because a month later she gave 

1548
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,800
birth to their first daughter or
their first child daughter named

1549
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,680
Bodie Soleil. 
I don't know if that's I think 

1550
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:06,360
she's on her period. 
Imagine if I I know. 

1551
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:08,600
I was going to. 
I was going to be like. 

1552
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:13,680
Cut that out. 
Maybe she's just hormonal, like 

1553
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,880
she's just on her period. 
I mean, I really, I would 

1554
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,000
really. 
It's just so funny the contrast 

1555
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:24,120
between hers and Nina's post. 
You know I know like Nina 

1556
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,600
literally wrote like 2 sentences
and that's it. 

1557
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,440
Yeah, she keeps her cards close.
Yeah. 

1558
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:30,960
But I feel like Nikki Reed is 
the type. 

1559
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,240
I mean, I really like, I do 
really like Nikki Reed, but she 

1560
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,960
is the type of person that would
be like, no, I'm not friends 

1561
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,720
with my cast mates, you know? 
Yeah. 

1562
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,080
Whereas Nina would be like, 
we're all best friends. 

1563
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:47,720
Well, on January 17th, Nina was 
on Watch What Happens Live and 

1564
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:51,880
This Is 2019 Now with Andy Cohen
and is asked by a caller if she 

1565
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,280
thinks it's weird that she's 
friends with Ian and Nina 

1566
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:58,040
considering her history with 
Ian, and this is her response. 

1567
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:03,760
Hey Andy, I love the show. 
I have a question for Nina and 

1568
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,040
my question is Nina. 
You used to say Ian. 

1569
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:08,880
And now that he's married, is 
it? 

1570
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,520
Weird that you're. 
Friends with both him and his 

1571
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,200
wife, I. 
Don't think that's weird at all.

1572
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:15,760
I think that's great. 
It's awesome. 

1573
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,760
Why? 
Why can't everyone be friends? 

1574
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,880
I think that they have a 
beautiful baby and they are 

1575
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,640
happy and so am I and let's. 
What's bad about that? 

1576
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:25,640
I don't. 
Have any problem? 

1577
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,480
With that peace and love man. 
And hair dye. 

1578
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:31,920
Next call caller. 
What's your name and from where 

1579
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,480
you called? 
Dude that was awkward. 

1580
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:38,240
I know, a little awkward, but I 
mean, they say they're fine, so 

1581
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,120
I don't know what to believe. 
Well, they say they're all well,

1582
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,360
so maybe that's the truth. 
I don't know. 

1583
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:47,440
OK, are they friends though? 
I don't even really think so. 

1584
01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:49,840
We're against this. 
Leader, but there's really no 

1585
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,680
photographic evidence that 
they're still friends. 

1586
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,800
They don't tweet at each other, 
They don't, they're never seen 

1587
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,240
together. 
They don't post about each 

1588
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,680
other. 
They both regularly interact and

1589
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,160
meet up with Paul Wesley and 
like the rest of the cast, but 

1590
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,360
there's no evidence that they're
still friends. 

1591
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,760
I mean, they might text here and
there, but we don't know that 

1592
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,560
for sure. 
I I gather that they are 

1593
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,800
friendly. 
It's all like, all good. 

1594
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,480
If I see you at a party, I'll 
say hi. 

1595
01:26:15,480 --> 01:26:17,840
I'll shake your hand, I'll ask 
you how you are. 

1596
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:21,080
But we're not going on double 
dates and hanging out, you know?

1597
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,120
Her body language, I don't know,
she seemed awkward to me. 

1598
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,680
I felt like she was kind of 
trying to like rush through her 

1599
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,200
answer and then Andy, like 
quickly moved on to the next. 

1600
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,320
It wasn't like super awkward, 
but it didn't seem like she 

1601
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,960
tossed her head back and laughed
and was like, Oh yes, we're 

1602
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:37,760
friends. 
Like it. 

1603
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,840
It seemed a little weird. 
Yeah, it's probably not a 

1604
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,320
conversation you want to have, 
especially not like on TV, you 

1605
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,440
know? 
Very bold of that guy to ask 

1606
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:46,680
that question. 
I know. 

1607
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:51,840
Well after that, Nina went on to
date a few people, none that 

1608
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,000
were that notable. 
However, in 2019, Nina met the 

1609
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,440
Olympic snowboarder Shaun White 
at a motivational workshop in 

1610
01:26:58,440 --> 01:27:01,280
Florida and they've been 
together ever since, which is 

1611
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,280
about 5 years. 
Nice. 

1612
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:04,920
And that's, that's pretty much 
it. 

1613
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,840
I mean, like I said, Nina and 
Shawn are still together and Ian

1614
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,880
and Nikki are still together. 
And in fact, in June 2003, Ian 

1615
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:15,880
and Nikki had a second child, a 
son, But nobody knows the name 

1616
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,320
of that child. 
Wow, I would be kind of 

1617
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,440
interested in Nina and Shaun 
White. 

1618
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,000
I know I'm. 
Intrigued. 

1619
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,680
It's definitely I think we 
haven't longest relationship. 

1620
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,920
We haven't done that many 
athletes on the show. 

1621
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:33,240
Yeah. 
You did Tom Brady, but has there

1622
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:36,240
been any others? 
I did Joe DiMaggio. 

1623
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,080
Yeah. 
Oh yes, I think that might be 

1624
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:40,120
it. 
We did. 

1625
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,960
Annie Oakley. 
That I was like, I guess that 

1626
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:45,920
counts. 
I mean, shooting, shooting is an

1627
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,560
Olympic sport. 
And her. 

1628
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:50,440
Husband. 
Interesting. 

1629
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:53,320
And her husband, just just her 
own husband, you know, whatever 

1630
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,000
his name is. 
But yeah, I. 

1631
01:27:55,480 --> 01:27:58,360
Mean you guys. 
Knew a little bit about their 

1632
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:02,120
relationship prior but like is 
this how you expected their 

1633
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:05,440
relationship to pan out once you
do all the research? 

1634
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:09,080
No, I mean you can't really 
predict much if you don't know 

1635
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,040
anything. 
Like I'm always surprised. 

1636
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,400
Yeah. 
Did you think it'd be like with 

1637
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,000
a lot more drama? 
I'm not surprised. 

1638
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:19,040
I'm, I guess I'm a little 
surprised that her and Nikki are

1639
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,600
not as close because that's 
definitely the way that I think 

1640
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,400
Nikki had made it seem. 
And we kind of got that 

1641
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:28,320
perspective in our Me Too 
episode of our podcast. 

1642
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,760
So that's pretty interesting. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1643
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,520
If anything, it's less dramatic 
than I expected. 

1644
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,800
Like, I I don't know why I 
thought this, but I thought it 

1645
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:39,080
was like, Oh my God, she was 
best friends with Nikki Reed. 

1646
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:43,080
And then she got with him and 
yeah, I thought it was really 

1647
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,800
dramatic. 
But it seems like from your 

1648
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,920
research it's not as big of a 
deal as. 

1649
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,400
Yeah, it's odd though, because 
like, if people think that 

1650
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,720
they're friends, it's funny that
they immediately jump to 

1651
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,000
thinking like, oh, Nikki's 
dating her friend's ex, but 

1652
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,600
like, what if Nina set Nikki and
Ian up? 

1653
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,240
Why would she do that if that's 
her ex? 

1654
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,320
Maybe she thought they would 
work together and clearly they 

1655
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:12,040
did, but maybe that's not the 
case because I think she 

1656
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,200
probably would have mentioned 
that if it was. 

1657
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:15,560
But it's just interesting that I
mean. 

1658
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,560
She would have to be. 
She'd have to be like, she'd 

1659
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:22,800
have to be so over Ian to do 
something like that, to set them

1660
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,720
up. 
She'd have to be like, disgusted

1661
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,440
with him. 
Yeah, I definitely think Ian 

1662
01:29:28,440 --> 01:29:30,880
probably ended the relationship 
because it seemed like it 

1663
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,480
probably was down to him wanting
to get married and have kids, 

1664
01:29:34,480 --> 01:29:37,200
especially considering the fact 
that once they broke up, he 

1665
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:41,360
immediately got engaged and got.
Married and had kids, yeah. 

1666
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,640
So he's really putting his money
where his mouth is. 

1667
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,880
And she was kind of like seeing 
a bunch of different guys. 

1668
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:52,200
I I think sometimes like the 
dumpy does that, like throws 

1669
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,800
himself into like not and it's a
it's a good thing. 

1670
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,040
It's what you should do. 
But you know, like is seeing 

1671
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:01,000
different people and you know, 
I, I agree. 

1672
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,920
It seems like maybe he ended it.
It seems like they were able to 

1673
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:10,160
work very cordially and there 
wasn't much awkwardness, maybe a

1674
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:14,360
little bit, but it does seem 
like they were able to put their

1675
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,120
feelings aside and work 
professionally. 

1676
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:21,160
I do get a sense that maybe Nina
did have a little bit of hard 

1677
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,720
feelings regarding Ian and 
especially how fast he moved on,

1678
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:28,160
but I think things were 
ultimately for the better. 

1679
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:31,800
I think. 
So I would say Oz that they get 

1680
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,440
back together I think are pretty
low, honestly. 

1681
01:30:34,480 --> 01:30:37,400
I mean, Ian seems happy with 
Nikki. 

1682
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,960
I mean, I don't know much about 
Nina and Sean. 

1683
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,840
I would say probably like 2% 
honestly. 

1684
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,240
I mean, he would have to get 
divorced. 

1685
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:50,280
That's like that's a big hurdle.
Yeah, I'll say like 1%. 

1686
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,440
I would say pretty low too. 
Yeah, 1%. 

1687
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:58,080
But Kate, thank you so much. 
So well researched. 

1688
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,400
Yeah, thank you. 
Congrats on your. 

1689
01:31:01,440 --> 01:31:04,480
First episode, thank you. 
I know I was telling you guys 

1690
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:07,280
when I was researching this that
like I was pretty much going 

1691
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,760
like month by month, like week 
by week, pretty much going 

1692
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:12,440
through like the Internet 
Archive. 

1693
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,400
Good. 
Because even though they have a 

1694
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:19,440
lot of fans and stuff like that,
nobody had made really like a 

1695
01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:21,520
comprehensive like timeline for 
them. 

1696
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:26,240
Like a lot of fan sites had like
little to no information about 

1697
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,440
their relationship. 
So now we're the source. 

1698
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,360
Thanks to you. 
Kate, do you wanna tease who we 

1699
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,880
are talking about next week on 
the Patreon? 

1700
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:41,080
Yes, so for my next episode, Oh 
my God, which is episode #100. 

1701
01:31:42,440 --> 01:31:46,360
Or. 100th episode. 
Crazy. 

1702
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:53,600
What I'm gonna say is that there
was a miniseries period drama 

1703
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,800
made about this couple that 
released this year. 

1704
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,040
That's all I'm going to say. 
Wow, that's super big. 

1705
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:05,760
Oh, I thought it was not. 
Oh, you said period. 

1706
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:07,960
I said period pizza, right? 
Yes. 

1707
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:13,360
OK, OK, that helps. 
But thank you, Caitlin, and 

1708
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,720
thank you guys for listening so 
much. 

1709
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,600
Yup. 
Thank you, I had so much fun 

1710
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,000
researching and posting this 
episode. 

1711
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,160
I'm so excited to hear what 
everybody thinks. 

1712
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,480
Oh, and we'll get back together 
next week. 

1713
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,280
We'll get back together next 
week. 

1714
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:44,280
Is your heart filled with pain? 
Shall I come back again? 

1715
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:49,680
Tell me, dear, how are you 
lonesome?