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Yeah, so they have convinced a 
lot of people that they are 

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siblings. 
But even some people are like, 

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huh, this seems kind of weird. 
Like they did a tour, their 

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first international tour was in 
New Zealand, Australia and 

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Japan. 
Like all at once. 

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Some this booking agent from New
Zealand called them up and said 

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I wanna I wanna book shows for 
you here. 

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Whatever. 
So they did all these shows and 

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their booking agent noticed that
there was like this intensity 

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between them that when they 
would play like how they would 

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look at each other and sometimes
it even looked sensual. 

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So he was like, OK, I feel like 
something more is going on here 

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than brother and sister, but 
they introduced themselves as 

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brother and sister than him. 
So it's very weird. 

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And they based on the stories he
told on that striped podcast, 

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which is amazing if you guys are
at all interested in like The 

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White Stripes or rock music, 
whatever. 

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Anyway, it sounds like they did 
sleep separately all throughout 

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that tour, like in different. 
Rooms. 

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So I guess that makes sense. 
They're a separate. 

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Movie or ATV show? 
Like what? 

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A couple introduce themselves as
like siblings and then they were

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like making out or something, 
right people? 

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Were like what? 
That's crazy, I think about. 

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It well there is in the White 
Lotus, the guy with his uncle, 

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but that's not siblings. 
No, something to think about. 

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OK. 
I don't even know what you're 

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talking about. 
Even though I was season 2 the 

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British guy with his gay uncle 
I. 

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Don't remember. 
I didn't. 

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I think that's even. 
Worse. 

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Sounds familiar? 
I mean, maybe not. 

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Worse, but I think that does 
sound familiar. 

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Yeah. 
But Oh my God. 

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Like they were like this. 
Is gonna bother. 

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Me some they were like kissing 
oh oh in ATV show in. 

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The Mirror. 
The Millers. 

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Oh no, that's not what I'm 
thinking of. 

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Yeah, I haven't done. 
We're the. 

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Millers, it does happen in We're
the. 

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Millers. 
Well, they're pretending to be. 

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Yeah, they're pretending to be 
siblings and they introduce 

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themselves as siblings and then 
they get caught making out. 

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Oh, it was in Marty Supreme. 
Oh yeah, he says. 

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Oh, he tells that guy that 
that's his sister. 

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Yeah. 
But they. 

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Didn't get caught at all. 
She's like pregnant. 

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No, no, the guy was like 
overhearing it. 

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And they were like, acting way 
too close. 

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Yeah. 
And like the guy was like, what 

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the fuck? 
Remember they were like, I think

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they were kissing or something. 
I don't know, but she was 

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pregnant with us, yeah. 
Crazy. 

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Yeah. 
So they have this lie going on. 

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They're forging ahead with their
music career, though. 

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In 2000, they released their 
second album, To Steel, which 

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means the style in Dutch, I 
think, which has the song You're

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Pretty Good Looking for a Girl. 
I just wonder, like, what does 

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he mean by that? 
Because ostensibly he's into 

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girls. 
Why is he like You're pretty 

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looking for a girl? 
You're pretty good looking for a

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girl. 
I know it works in the hot 

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chick, which I looked up and 
it's in it like works perfectly 

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for that, but in any other 
scenario, what does that mean? 

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Yeah. 
I don't know. 

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Yeah, I was listening to some of
the other lyrics because this 

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album would have come out right 
after the divorce. 

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Wondering if there's anything 
about Meg. 

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There is a song called Sister. 
Do you know my name? 

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Sister, do you know my name? 
I've heard it before, but I want

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to know. 
I've got a funny feeling it's 

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gonna work out 'cause now I see 
you sitting here next to me. 

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I don't know, maybe. 
I mean, that's supposedly his 

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sister. 
And it sounds like optimistic, 

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like it's gonna work out 'cause 
you're here with me. 

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And I wonder what his real 
sisters thought. 

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I know, probably thought it was 
weird. 

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Yeah, and. 
They has a song called Truth 

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Doesn't Make a Noise. 
Well, they have a song called 

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Truth Doesn't Make a Noise, but 
he wrote the lyrics and it says 

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my baby's got a heart of stone. 
Can't you people just leave her 

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alone? 
She never did nothing to hurt 

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you, so leave her alone. 
I can't explain it. 

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I feel it often every time I see
her face with the way you treat 

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her filled me with rage and I 
want to tear apart the place. 

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You try to tell her what to do. 
All she does is stare at you. 

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Her stare is louder than your 
voice because truth doesn't make

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a noise. 
It seemed like it could be about

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Meg because the way you treat 
her like she did receive a lot 

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of criticism in the press, music
reviews and stuff about her 

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drumming. 
A lot of people saw her, I 

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think, as kind of like a Linda 
McCartney type who was only in 

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the band because of the guy or 
whatever. 

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People are really hard on her, 
but also the. 

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There's no one else in the band.
I know they know they do, like 

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the tambourine or something. 
Yeah, yeah, I know. 

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But people. 
Otherwise they'd be a solo act. 

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People just think Jack is like 
wicked talented and they think 

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that Meg doesn't match his 
talent I guess. 

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But also, the lyric about truth 
doesn't make a noise. 

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Like, one of Jack's frequently 
repeated quotes about Meg is 

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that she apparently said the 
more you talk, the less people 

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listen. 
I mean, she's known for not 

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talking that much. 
So truth doesn't make noise. 

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Her stare is louder than your 
voice. 

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I don't know. 
It sounds like it's about Meg to

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me. 
In 2001, they shot a music video

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for their song Hotel Yorba at 
this real Hotel Yorba in 

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southwest, southwest Detroit. 
And in the video, Jacosteen 

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walking hand to hand with a 
girl, and he even marries this 

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girl in a church. 
And meanwhile, Meg is tied to 

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him with a rope around her 
waist, kind of showing that 

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they're always together. 
They're even if they're with 

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romantic partners. 
I mean, obviously the audience 

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thinks that Meg is just his 
sister, so it's like, oh, 

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they're always connected or 
something. 

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But it felt kind of sad to me 
watching this, knowing that they

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were romantic. 
It's like Meg just kind of being

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pulled around even though he's 
like moving on. 

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She's just there. 
Why would she agree to that? 

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I don't know. 
That's bizarre. 

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I It's so hard because Meg does 
not do interviews and doesn't 

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say much, so we don't know what 
her perspective was like. 

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Was she happy to be there or was
she like, what, what's going on?

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What? 
Kind of situation has she got 

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herself into? 
All right. 

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