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Are you lonesome tonight? 
Do you miss me tonight? 

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Are you sorry? 
Hi, everybody. 

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Hi, Kelly. 
Hi Mel, my cousin how are? 

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You. 
I'm good. 

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How are you doing? 
I'm great. 

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I'm. 
So happy to be talking with you 

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tonight for the next hour or so 
about love. 

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Me too. 
This is a true love podcast, so 

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we are your hosts. 
We are two cousins. 

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My name is Mel and this is my 
cousin Kel. 

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Yep. 
We are Mel and Kel, and we love 

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talking about other people's 
love lives. 

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We do. 
There's always something to 

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learn, you know? 
Always. 

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And you might think it's none of
your business. 

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Don't be nosy, but guys. 
We are social creatures and it 

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is a natural instinct as human 
beings to understand ourselves 

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by talking about other humans. 
I agree. 

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And this podcast, it's honestly 
made me grow as a person because

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you really realize just how 
complicated life and 

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relationships are when you look 
at other people and go. 

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Especially it's the most 
beautiful famous people who seem

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to have it all together. 
But even they have gone through 

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some crazy heartbreaking stuff. 
They do, I know. 

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I thought about that for today's
couple, actually, that no matter

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how beautiful or successful 
somebody is, they are still 

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insecure and they don't know 
what they're doing. 

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And we can all relate. 
And you know what? 

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Yeah, I mean, yeah, talking 
about real people has its 

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difficulties, but it's better 
than us just talking about like 

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fairy tales or something. 
I mean, we did have a Twilight 

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podcast. 
Oh, yeah. 

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But, you know, we're trying to 
learn from, like, real 

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relationships, you know? 
And I think we both think love 

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is real. 
But it's also not this fantasy 

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that gets fed to you in the 
movies, you know? 

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So it's not. 
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Today I think, Mel, I think that
we might be the first people to 

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do a podcast about this couple 
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because I saw a Spanish one 
about them. 

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But I searched, I searched the 
podcast, I didn't see anything 

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out there. 
So this might be the only Alex 

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Turner and Alexa Chung Timeline 
podcast out there. 

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I. 
Know absolutely nothing about 

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this couple so I am so excited. 
OK. 

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Learn about them. 
Yeah, this is kind of a passion 

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project episode for me. 
I really exciting to really 

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excited to be doing it. 
But it's the it's the kind of 

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the reason I'm nervous now is I 
told you I was nervous because I

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am so excited that I don't want 
to let myself down. 

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You know, is this going to be as
great as I thought it would be? 

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You know, like how I felt about 
the Bahama McCartney one, but. 

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That's how I felt about the JFK 
Junior one. 

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Oh yeah, I really felt I was. 
I remember I was very sick 

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during that episode 2 and I felt
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botched it now with our most 
listened to episodes. 

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So you must feel good about 
that. 

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That's our number one podcast. 
Feel free to promote that one 

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more. 
Honestly, like, that's our top 

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episode. 
But anyway, yeah, this was, I've

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been wanting to do this for a 
while. 

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I was. 
I I am a big fan of Arctic 

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Monkeys and I was a big fan of 
this couple back in my Tumblr 

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days. 
They were all over Tumblr. 

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And yeah, this episode we're 
going back to like indie rock 

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cigarettes, riptides, black 
combat boots, you know, that 

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whole vibe of the 2000s, early 
20 tens, which was really 

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prevalent on Tumblr. 
You know, just imagine beer 

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spilled on the ground, like that
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What? 
Time it was, yes. 

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And. 
So this is about Alex Turner. 

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He is the lead singer of the 
band Arctic Monkeys and also 

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part of The Last Shadow Puppets,
his other band with Miles Kane 

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who we have mentioned before he 
dated Suki Waterhouse in the 

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past, and then Alexa Chung. 
She is a model TV presenter, 

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fashion designer and IT girl, if
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kind of a girl that's. 
I love the concept of the IT 

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girl. 
It's very interesting to me, a 

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girl that's just known for being
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seen out and about just being an
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parties, I don't know, but. 
I there's something sad to me 

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about the IT girl because I feel
like it's a temporary status. 

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Yes, because I mean, it's it, 
girl. 

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It's not it, woman, you know. 
It doesn't last forever. 

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It's fleeting. 
It's like you are the IT girl of

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the moment, yes, but it will 
quickly pass. 

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Yeah, there's always an IT girl 
of A Moment. 

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She definitely was an IT girl of
her moment who's who's like an 

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IT girl right now. 
I feel like Sidney Sweeney was 

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the IT girl at least of last 
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But now she's like, pretty big. 
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girls, is they're usually like, 
not that famous too. 

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You're so right. 
You know, like Sophia Richie, 

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she was an IT girl. 
And they're usually affiliated 

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with a specific place, too. 
Yes, so true. 

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Yeah, everybody is copying their
fashion style. 

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Yes, Yes. 
Everybody wants to be like 

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Caroline Kennedy did an episode.
She Caroline Kennedy. 

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Just kidding. 
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definitely was an IT girl. 
Yes, and both Alex. 

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OK, Alex and Alexa first, we 
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Their names are basically the 
same. 

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It's so cute. 
That is adorable. 

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And they're both English. 
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of like one of the peaks of my 
Anglophile phase, like just 

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loving Arctic Monkeys and like 
British TV shows like Skins and 

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Keep Calm and Carry On and Keep 
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Harry's still single, like all 
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So that's that's what we're 
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And one reason Alex and Alexa 
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think is because of this love 
letter that was written by Alex.

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Apparently that was circulated 
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Tumblr. 
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It was. 
It's on a piece of paper, and 

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it's written in cursive by 
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because at the bottom at the 
bottom it also says Alex 

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Turner's love letter to Alexa 
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And I saw I saw this love letter
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never forgot it. 
I still think about it all the 

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time. 
Is it like fan fiction? 

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Well, that's what. 
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I in recent years, thought about
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And I wondered, was that even 
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Like that was probably fake. 
But I'm going to get more into 

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it later. 
But I'm going to read the the 

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letter right now just to kick us
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Oh, I love. 
That, and this was my first, I 

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didn't know much about them at 
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I never really looked into their
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All I really knew was this 
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a lot of people only knew this 
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to read it. 
It says my mouth hasn't shut up 

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about you since you kissed it. 
The idea that you may kiss it 

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again is stuck in my brain, 
which hasn't stopped thinking 

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about you since well, before any
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And now the prospect of those 
kisses seems to wind me up, like

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when you slip on the stairs and 
one of the steps hits you in the

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middle of the back. 
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continuing for what is 
traditionally terrifying forever

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excites me to an unfamiliar 
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That's the letter. 
Oh, that's it. 

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Yep, that's it. 
It's not really a letter, you 

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know, it's it's like a 
paragraph. 

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But we'll we'll investigate this
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They sound like lyrics. 
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lot like his lyrics because he 
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Monkeys, but we'll investigate 
that later. 

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OK. 
Yes. 

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So Alex Turner and Alexa Chung, 
I think that they were much, 

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much, much more famous in 
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But there were definitely some 
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know, watching Skins and stuff 
that somehow found out about 

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them. 
And we're obsessed with them 

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too. 
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Yeah, I feel like that time 
period too. 

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US Americans were really 
obsessed with England. 

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Yes, we really were. 
It was like a new British 

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invasion. 
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I mean, like Harry Potter two, 
there was just so much in our 

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pop culture that made it seem 
like England was way better. 

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Robert Pattinson, Yes, even like
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Like all of those British 
people, they Lily. 

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Allen. 
Oh my God. 

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We were. 
We wanted to beat you guys. 

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Yes. 
And like we did. 

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We would wear, yeah, like 
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even though we had never been 
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You're obsessed. 
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I did. 
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and I remember when I worked at 
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guy was like, I like a jumper. 
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that point I had not been to 
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I know, yeah. 
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was probably rolling over in her
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My mom still always says that to
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She's like my mother would be so
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Anyway, 3 words I would use to 
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Chung would be stylish festivals
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Sweet. 
Yes, OK. 

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No, no. 
That's an ominous. 

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There No dark one. 
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adjective, but it's just so 
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But it fits. 
Yeah, they would go on with 

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Vanessa Hudgens in that way. 
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They love the music festivals. 
So, OK, who are they? 

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Just some quick back stories. 
Who's Alex Turner? 

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Alex Turner, You know, he's the 
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He has these big brown eyes. 
He's changed his look a lot over

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the years. 
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beginning of Arctic Monkeys, he 
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haircut, a little shaggy but not
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And then he had like long hair. 
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having this kind of like greaser
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So now he's now he's weirdly 
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mobster look. 
So he's had a lot of different 

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looks. 
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from observing him over the 
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private. 
He seems polite but sometimes 

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serious. 
But he can still be like silly 

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and a jokester and seems like he
always has friends and you know,

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he parties and stuff. 
But he also seems kind of quiet,

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some people say intimidating, 
and I can kind of see that Maybe

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because he is quiet and he has a
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sort of like a Liverpool accent,
but it's it's kind of faded a 

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little bit in recent years, kind
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has faded. 
Yeah, a little sad. 

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Oh, actually Rob is going to tie
back into this later. 

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Oh my God. 
OK. 

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Yep. 
Wait, wait, wait. 

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Like at the end. 
OK, well, let's hang on, yeah. 

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But his full name? 
Alexander David Turner. 

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He was born January 6th, 1986. 
So he's a Capricorn born in 

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Sheffield, England, which is 
where Arctic Monkeys formed. 

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His parents were both secondary 
school teachers and he grew up 

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an only child. 
So is that why he wanted to be a

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star? 
I don't know. 

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He grew up next door to, or near
and very close to at least Matt 

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Helders, who is another founding
member of Arctic Monkeys. 

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And they were really into music 
with their friends as kids, 

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just, you know, messing around 
having fun. 

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Seems like they really hung out 
in the neighbourhood. 

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There's a lot of talk about, oh,
he lived in the neighbourhood 

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too, so that's cute. 
He was a bright and popular but 

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reserved kid. 
He was into English photography 

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and psychology when he was 
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He did writing, but he didn't 
show anybody, apparently, and 

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apparently Alex was always the 
quiet one in the group. 

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Tim and Matt Helders and Andy 
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Arctic Monkeys in mid 2002, when
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a neighbor A10, who went to a 
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join the band too. 
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Alex the obvious candidate to 
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he had a thing for words. 
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songs with his bandmates. 
I have always wondered, how do 

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bands decide who's going to 
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That's a big deal, you know. 
I feel like probably. 

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I mean, sometimes they split 
that responsibility. 

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Right. 
Yeah, sometimes they do. 

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But I feel like sometimes they 
don't. 

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Often comes down to, I bet, just
who's best at it. 

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Yeah, I guess that's what 
happened here too. 

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I feel like I would want, maybe 
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freak. 
I was like, I I want to 

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contribute to the lyrics. 
I know. 

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That's like, I mean, I don't 
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So, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
That's all I can do. 

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That would be awesome. 
I've always wanted to be like 

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Bernie to Elton John. 
I'll just write the words. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
I won't perform. 

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I won't write any music. 
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material. 
That would be awesome. 

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So Arctic Monkeys in the early 
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pubs. 
They played some original songs 

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and and covers. 
Over the summer after they first

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started, Alex played as a rhythm
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And then through that he met a 
record producer and he asked him

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if he would produce Arctic 
Monkey's music and they did. 

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I read that they had one demo 
album that like nobody ever 

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really heard. 
And then they had another one, I

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don't know, not important. 
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and they recorded demo CD and 
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after their shows in northern 
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Alex was working at a bar. 
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that glamorous or anything. 
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like going to their local shows 
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their songs. 
I don't think they had that many

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songs. 
I think they had like 1020 maybe

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original songs and they were 
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Good on the Dance Floor was 
played on BBC Radio 1 and the 

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rest is history basically. 
It became really popular on 

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Myspace and sites like that and 
I bet you look good on the dance

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floor. 
I love that song was #1 on the 

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singles chart in England. 
Their album Whatever they Say I 

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Am I'm Not was #1 on the charts 
in England. 

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They were huge, huge band in 
England. 

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Not as much here, but I think 
people still know them. 

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Like, if you're into alternative
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are. 
Their second album, Favorite 

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Worst Nightmare, came out in 
2007, has the song Fluorescent 

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Adolescent, which was a big hit 
for them. 

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And that was in my Twitter bio 
for years back when I had 

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Twitter, that was my little bio.
It just said fluorescent 

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adolescent. 
God about that, yeah. 

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Before Alexa, he dated Johanna 
Bennett, the front woman of a 

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band. 
I'm sorry I didn't write what 

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band, but. 
She. 

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Later went on to marry one of 
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which is just funny. 
Just seems like a small world. 

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Yeah, it's like similar bands. 
I don't know. 

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I know he. 
I'm sure he dated other girls 

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too, but I I'm not sure who. 
OK, but the lady of the hour. 

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Alexa Chung, So she's apparently
the same height as Alex. 

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They're both about 5/8, so it's 
kind of like. 

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For some reason I thought she 
was taller. 

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Me too. 
A model. 

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I know. 
I thought she was going to be 

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like 6 feet tall, but I guess 
she has. 

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Very long legs. 
She does very, very long legs, 

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very thin arms and legs. 
Yeah, she's a model. 

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Or she was. 
Still is. 

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I think she still is. 
Alexa, from my observation, 

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seems like a very creative, fun,
witty, down to earth person. 

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Even though she, you know, works
with all these extremely high 

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fashion brands, she still seems 
pretty humble. 

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And, I don't know, pretty normal
too. 

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I don't think she's very 
pretentious about it, she said. 

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When she was younger, she was a 
tomboy. 

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I feel like a lot of models say 
that, but I kind of do believe 

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it. 
For her. 

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She's into a lot of things, 
photography, fashion, and she 

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has said that she spends her 
life pretending she's in a band.

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I love that. 
Yes, and she was born November 

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5th, 1983, another Scorpio. 
Her mother is English, her 

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father is 3/4 Chinese. 
So that's where the Chung last 

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name comes from. 
I was a graphic designer. 

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She grew up in Privet, 
Hampshire, England, and she's 

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the youngest of four kids. 
I I thought she was going to be 

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more like Cara Delevingne. 
I thought she was going to be 

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kind of a almost nobility type 
of person. 

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Yeah, but she isn't. 
But I still think that they 

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probably were sort of well to do
because she did have a pony 

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named Pippi, so. 
Oh yeah, she's rich. 

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She became a model at age 16 
when take a drink. 

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She was spotted by a modeling 
scout at. 

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Oh my God, was it at a mall? 
No, it was actually at Reading 

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Festival, but I'm guessing 
maybe. 

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These modeling scouts, like I 
know, coming to you. 

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Guys I know. 
It's crazy. 

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They're like seeking people out.
Yeah. 

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You'd imagine, like, everyone 
sending their headshots in. 

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Why it's like almost creepy that
they're just like, going up to 

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people. 
I know there have been times 

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when when I was in New York, 
like, I would see some girl or 

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even guy that looked really tall
and thin and beautiful. 

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And I would wonder to myself, 
are they a model? 

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So I wonder if scouts, when they
see somebody like that, they're 

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just like, oh, OK, I'm going to 
go, yeah. 

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I don't know that's. 
So funny. 

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What a compliment that. 
Is. 

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I know. 
So she became a model, age 16. 

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And when she was in her late 
teens as a model, she started 

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dating the fashion photographer 
David Titlow, who was 20 years 

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her senior. 
Oh wow, she's kind of crazy. 

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In 2006, she became a presenter 
for the T4 show Pop World and 

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then Co hosted the music and 
comedy program on BBC called The

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Wall. 
And she kind of pretty early on,

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like in her early 20s, retired 
from modeling, but she kind of 

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kept doing it. 
But she was able to do these 

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presenter jobs and I don't think
she liked modeling that much. 

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So Alexa, if you've never seen, 
I feel like I was just going to 

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activate the speaker. 
We don't even have an Alexa, 

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but. 
I know probably if someone's 

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listening to this live like or 
on speaker in their house, it 

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might have triggered it. 
She apparently gets kind of 

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annoyed. 
I mean, she wasn't rude about 

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it, but she gets asked a lot 
about the speaker and how it 

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feels having. 
I think it's terrible. 

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I think it's terrible that 
Amazon. 

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They should have never given. 
The speaker. 

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A real person's name and that 
name. 

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Now nobody can address. 
If they have a friend named 

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Alexa and they have an Alexa in 
their house, they cannot address

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that person. 
I know it's terrible. 

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They should have never. 
I think Alexa is a beautiful 

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name too. 
It just I it stinks what they 

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did with that. 
They should have just, I don't 

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know, they could have used some 
kind of noun or made-up word or 

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medieval name or something that 
nobody uses anymore, like they 

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could have done anything. 
It's. 

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So crazy. 
But yeah, Alexa, I was going to 

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say, if you guys don't know, has
very tall, long legs, messy Bob 

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hair. 
She often has had and known for 

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her style. 
She's a fashion girl. 

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She's done so many, so many 
collaborations with fashion 

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labels. 
And then later in the story, she

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has her own fashion line. 
But she somehow became very 

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affiliated with that world. 
And it's kind of funny because 

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she also was ATV presenter and 
she kind of talked about her, 

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how all the fashion people don't
seem to really pay attention to 

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that, or they don't really know 
what she's doing with that. 

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But that's kind of like her, or 
at least was her day job. 

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Because yeah, you don't get paid
to go to parties and look. 

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Cute, you know? 
I knew she was a model, but 

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like, I thought of her as, like,
being funny too. 

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Like she seemed like she was 
like a personality. 

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She is, she is funny. 
And I I was watching some videos

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of her to prepare for this and 
it actually did crack me up a 

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couple of times. 
So she's very charming. 

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In 2008, just about her, you 
know, a girl status. 

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She was asked by the Guardian 
how many events she gets invited

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to a night and she said there's 
three tonight and it's a wide 

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range ones like an art gallery 
thing, once a Mulberry party and

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the other ones a friends 
birthday, a party party. 

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But you know what, recently, 
recently I've been staying in 

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because I'm working so much I 
can't do my job properly and be 

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hungover. 
So I'm sorry. 

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And then she said. 
I don't want to be famous for 

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going out. 
That would be so exhausting. 

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I'd have to go to three things 
in one night. 

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That's crazy. 
My social calendar is not that. 

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No, but we've talked about this 
like when we did our Lindsay 

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Lohan episode. 
Like, Oh yeah. 

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Celebrities do just have an 
endless amount of opportunities 

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to party and go out, so it makes
sense why they get addicted to 

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it. 
Yeah, totally. 

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Oh, my gosh. 
And if you're you're kind of 

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nervous, if you're getting 
invited to things every single 

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night, you're probably drinking 
every single night, maybe doing 

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drugs every single night. 
Like, that's a lot. 

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So crazy. 
But she did have this TV job 

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during the day, so she couldn't 
be that crazy. 2008, Well, this 

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is actually going kind of beyond
the timelines. 

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Maybe I shouldn't share this, 
but she did become the host of 

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the Morning Show morning music 
show for Channel 4 called 

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Freshly Squeezed, and also the 
face of Rimmel, London. 

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Some kind of like London's A 
Girl. 

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And before dating Alex, she 
apparently briefly dated Albert 

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Hammond Junior from The Strokes,
which I read a book called Meet 

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Me in the Bathroom, which is all
about rock music in so specific 

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rock music in New York City from
2001 to 2011. 

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And Hilbraham and Junior, I just
remember in that book seemed 

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like kind of bad news, like on 
drugs and fighting people and 

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stuff. 
So Alexa and she also dated 

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British actor Douglas Booth, 
possibly Jared Leto, The Horrors

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frontman Ferris Badman and lead 
singer Ian Watkins. 

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So she has a thing for lead 
singers and she will talk about 

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this later in the story. 
But I feel like this is a good 

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time to talk about this because 
I asked you guys on our Patreon 

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for the poll. 
I said would you say you have 

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romantic type And so far we. 
I'm going to refresh the page 

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because sometimes more come in 
so far. 

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OK, 70% of you said yes, you do 
have a type and 30% of you said 

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no. 
And our listener, Kate said, I 

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hope you don't mind I'm sharing 
this. 

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I don't have as much a physical 
type as a personality type. 

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I do find as well I can be 
pretty attracted to many 

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different personalities, but it 
comes down to more 

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comparability. 
I think that's a narrow, 

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narrower set of people than just
my type. 

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I think. 
I think the same for Alexa 

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actually. 
She loves guys and bands and 

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lead singers specifically, but I
think that they don't all look. 

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I mean, a lot of them are like 
thin, lanky white guys, but but 

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they don't all look exactly the 
same. 

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But Maggie Licious also 
commented and said, yeah, ugly 

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and mean to me. 
Sad face? 

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Sad. 
I hope that's a type that you, 

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you know, eventually lose 
interest in. 

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Yeah, sometimes just recognizing
it is the first step. 

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Exactly. 
What do you think about all of 

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that, Mel? 
Well, yeah, I mean, my type used

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to be, I guess, emotionally 
unavailable. 

455
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,120
I've definitely grown out of 
that. 

456
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,960
I would say, yeah. 
My type used to be like very 

457
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:03,480
stoic and yeah, unemotional and 
kind of cold, but. 

458
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,080
So. 
Now I don't. 

459
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,440
I know Now. 
I don't think I I've I don't 

460
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,000
think I have a type. 
Nice, I think. 

461
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:13,560
I don't know. 
I think that there is something 

462
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,240
kind of embarrassing about 
having a type, but I think it's 

463
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,640
kind of helpful too. 
I think so as well. 

464
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,720
I mean, for a long time I wished
I had one so I could more easily

465
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,000
identify attraction right away. 
Because dating just felt so 

466
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,800
daunting. 
Having to go on a couple dates 

467
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,560
with someone to determine if I 
liked them because I just didn't

468
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,680
have like any initial feelings 
one way or the other. 

469
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,560
But I definitely have things 
that are not my type, like I 

470
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,440
definitely have automatic non 
attraction. 

471
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,320
Me too. 
If that's a word for like 

472
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,280
distaste for some, but. 
I mean, we're both in 

473
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,720
relationships now. 
So I guess it's we're all 

474
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,560
talking about the past here, But
yeah, I mean. 

475
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,520
Forgot I've been. 
Mean I've been. 

476
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,360
I've been in the trenches like I
definitely have thought long 

477
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,040
about. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

478
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,360
I definitely have always liked 
artsy type of guys. 

479
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:16,760
And I have dated several guys 
with glasses, but it wasn't on 

480
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,400
purpose. 
It wasn't on purpose. 

481
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,840
I feel like a lot of you guys 
have had like light brown hair. 

482
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,840
Not all, but some. 
The thing is. 

483
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,240
I have been attracted to some 
people that weren't that type, 

484
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,920
but it just didn't work out with
them. 

485
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,920
Yeah, so, but honestly that type
is probably also the type that 

486
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,600
is attracted to you. 
Yeah, you know what? 

487
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,920
OK, I feel kind of weird. 
I hope no one's listening that 

488
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,280
knows me, but I have noticed 
that even my current boyfriend 

489
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,400
or like my ex boyfriend's, like,
I feel like some of the ex 

490
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,280
girlfriends look a little 
similar to me. 

491
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:03,320
Like we're all kind of in a 
similar world, so whatever. 

492
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,800
But I think both Alex and Alexa 
have a type and she, you know, 

493
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,400
he also seems to like models, so
it's not just her. 

494
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,200
But let's get into it. 
But before we get into the 

495
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,600
episode, you know, on the 
podcast we've talked a lot about

496
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,800
how mental health can affect 
relationships and we recently 

497
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,560
learned of an organization that 
is doing a lot of important work

498
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,880
to combat OCD in relationships. 
Yeah, it's called no CD. 

499
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,240
And you know, OCD is more than 
what you see on TV and in the 

500
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,080
movies. 
If you imagine having unwanted 

501
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,960
thoughts about your relationship
stuck in your head all day, no 

502
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,920
matter how hard you try to make 
them go away, that's 

503
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,240
relationship OCD, which I feel 
like is a less known about type 

504
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,920
of OCD, but it comes with 
unrelenting intrusive images, 

505
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,400
thoughts and urges about your 
partner, a loved one. 

506
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,480
And breaking the OCD cycle takes
effective treatment. 

507
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:07,480
You can go to no CD, so that's 
NOCD dot com to get evidence 

508
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,480
based treatment. 
And on no CD you can book a call

509
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,160
with a face to face licensed 
therapist. 

510
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,440
And no CD is sponsored by most 
insurance companies. 

511
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,200
So yeah, it's a really cool 
organization that I feel like is

512
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,120
pretty relevant to our show and 
anybody that's struggling with a

513
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,480
breakup. 
If you know someone, a loved one

514
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,680
that is maybe having issues with
relationship OCD, then you 

515
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:38,400
should tell them about no CD. 
The couple today, how did they 

516
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,480
meet? 
How did they meet? 

517
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:45,760
They first met at T in the Park,
which is a Scottish music 

518
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,440
festival. 
Oh my gosh, this was July 2007. 

519
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,440
Alexa was 23, Alex 21. 
So they're pretty young. 

520
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,080
Yeah, I mean, that's one of your
adjectives. 

521
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,960
Yeah, well, yeah, It's funny, 
like when I was younger, I 

522
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,640
thought that they were older, 
obviously. 

523
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,920
Yeah. 
But now, now that I look at the 

524
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,600
story, you know, it sadly kind 
of makes sense. 

525
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,920
Why? 
Spoiler they didn't end up 

526
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,160
together. 
Are you serious? 

527
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,640
Mel. 
I had a feeling you actually did

528
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,880
spoil it because you said you 
said earlier in episode this is 

529
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,960
past the timeline. 
Oh, yes, yes, yes, according to 

530
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,960
Digital Spy. 
Now, I don't know if this was at

531
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,040
the festival, I think it was, 
but I don't really get it. 

532
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,120
But it says Alex met Alexa at a 
backstage karaoke party that the

533
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,200
group held on Friday night to 
celebrate guitarist Jamie 

534
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,920
Cooke's birthday. 
Alex and Alexa were all over 

535
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,960
each other backstage. 
He was pulling out all the stops

536
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,440
to impress her. 
She was lapping it up and 

537
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,080
giggling at his jokes. 
Alex whisked her off to a quiet 

538
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,160
corner on a bench and cuddled 
her as he taught her some 

539
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,960
chords. 
So. 

540
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,880
We know this is for sure. 
When they met, they weren't. 

541
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,600
This is not like when the world 
found out about them dating. 

542
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,160
Yeah, you know what? 
I don't know. 

543
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,480
This might be just when the 
world found out, but. 

544
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,080
Yeah, this is. 
And and that's just according to

545
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,600
a source, so who knows, but. 
Because they just sound like 

546
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,720
they're already cozy. 
But I guess sometimes when 

547
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,640
you're at an event like that, it
doesn't take too long. 

548
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,080
Yeah, yeah, it does sound a 
little bit cliche, like, oh, 

549
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,240
he's going to go teach her how 
to play guitar. 

550
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,320
And it says after a while they 
disappeared off to his tour bus 

551
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,880
with the promise of a more of 
more lessons on his acoustic 

552
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,960
guitar with some peace and 
quiet. 

553
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,080
She's only too happy to accept 
the offer and they walked off 

554
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,040
into the night together. 
So Classic went off to the tour 

555
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:55,160
bus type of meeting. 
A couple months later it seems 

556
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,440
like they are still together. 
There's a Daily Mail article 

557
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:06,320
titled When Alex Met Alexa. 
So in theme it is Arctic Monkey 

558
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,200
singer hand in hand with Channel
4 star. 

559
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,240
And then also in October, 
apparently Arctic Monkeys was 

560
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,080
accepting Best Band in the World
award at the Q Awards. 

561
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:24,600
And apparently Alex left the 
other lads to meet Alexa at the 

562
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,880
Met bar, and a source said no 
sooner had they bought a round 

563
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,120
of vodkas, meaning him, him and 
Alexa, they were snogging in the

564
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,400
dance floor right in the middle 
of the club. 

565
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,160
She seemed totally smitten by 
him and was laughing at his 

566
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,320
jokes and stroking his hair. 
They looked, they looked like 

567
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,360
they really care for each other.
Oh. 

568
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,280
Yeah, so they're bopping around 
London. 

569
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,680
They go into shows, bars 
together, nightlife, you know, 

570
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,400
being young. 
And then not too long after that

571
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,880
they, I mean. 
So they met in the summer 2007. 

572
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,960
Now it's 2008. 
It's pretty official because 

573
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:09,679
she's in his music video for his
other band, The Last Shadow 

574
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:11,880
Puppets. 
The song's called My Mistakes 

575
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,360
Are Made for You and it's very 
mysterious. 

576
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,600
It's like a night shot retro 70s
film vibe. 

577
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,000
And in the video it's him and 
Alexa. 

578
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,280
It looks like they're in a car 
crash and it looks like she's 

579
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,760
dead and he leaves the car and 
is playing guitar with Miles 

580
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,239
Kane and the gazebo. 
And then it appears that she 

581
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,400
also walks away from the 
accident and is alive and she 

582
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,000
just walks into the darkness of 
the woods. 

583
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,320
Yes. 
I don't know what that's 

584
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,000
supposed to mean. 
I don't know if we should read 

585
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,320
into it. 
Probably not. 

586
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,480
But I feel like that's pretty 
serious to, you know, only be 

587
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,360
together for, you know, less 
than a year and you're already 

588
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,520
like being in my music video, 
you know, And she's, she's right

589
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,800
there, front and center. 
It's not like she's just in the 

590
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,840
background or something. 
This is a random thought I just 

591
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,360
put in. 
I don't know why I put it here 

592
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,920
in the timeline, but I guess 
because she's in this music 

593
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,520
video. 
When I was younger, I was 

594
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,520
interested in Alexa Chung, but I
was also kind of annoyed by her 

595
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,680
because I used. 
I used to be kind of annoyed by 

596
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,120
a lot of people who were models 
slash DJ slash fashion designers

597
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,200
slash photographer, you know 
what I mean? 

598
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,520
I don't know why. 
I know exactly what you mean. 

599
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,840
I felt like, what's your job 
like? 

600
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,400
What the heck? 
Yeah, it. 

601
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,840
Seems like they have an easy 
life. 

602
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,760
And like, a lot of it, I mean, a
lot of it comes from privilege, 

603
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,040
too. 
Like, yeah, like you said, she 

604
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,840
probably was well to do. 
She had a pony. 

605
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,600
And also she just happened to be
born beautiful. 

606
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,480
It's like easy to kind of be a 
hater because you're like, yeah,

607
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,080
God, you're not working your 
retail job like in the summers 

608
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,200
paying your student debt like. 
I was. 

609
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,680
It was it was so weird. 
Like I I was interested in her. 

610
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,920
But I was somewhat A hater too, 
for that reason. 

611
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,560
I think I was just jealous 
because, yeah, honestly, I want 

612
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,080
that. 
Like I want to just be involved 

613
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,240
in a ton of different creative 
projects. 

614
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,000
Yeah, I mean it's good to be 
like self aware of that. 

615
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,160
It's natural to be jealous. 
I guess so. 

616
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:19,080
OK. 
Then February 2008, first of 

617
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:26,080
all, 2008, what a time. 
What a twilight February. 2008 

618
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,840
The letter OK, this is when the 
letter happened people. 

619
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:36,640
And apparently, according to my 
research, the letter is real. 

620
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:43,160
OK, but how did who wrote it? 
OK, so Alexa actually talked to 

621
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:48,840
the Guardian and said there was 
a really upsetting tabloid story

622
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,440
when Alex had written me a 
Valentine's card and I had 

623
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,640
accidentally left it in a bar 
and someone sold it to the Sun 

624
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,640
and they printed it and they 
changed it so it didn't look 

625
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,080
like a Valentine card and they 
just said it was a love letter. 

626
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,120
They slated him for being really
soppy. 

627
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,320
And then she said look, it's my 
boyfriend and it's Alex, of 

628
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,280
course it's going to be written 
like a story. 

629
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,080
And the Guardian asked was he 
peeved and she said he was 

630
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,120
really cool with it and he said 
I'm not upset that everyone saw 

631
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,720
it because that's the truth and 
I couldn't give a shit. 

632
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,240
And then he went on and said. 
But at least you have a copy of 

633
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:26,200
it now, I mean. 
Hey, I mean it is super 

634
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,360
personal, but it's better to be 
exposed for writing something 

635
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,840
sweet to your girlfriend then 
something terrible and nasty. 

636
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,720
I know, like there are worse 
things than being revealed to be

637
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:43,280
like a softy and a romantic and.
It looks really sweet. 

638
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,480
I mean, yeah, some people think 
it's cheesy, but the weird thing

639
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,640
is you can't. 
At least I couldn't. 

640
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,800
I couldn't find anywhere a 
picture of the original. 

641
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,160
I think maybe the sun just typed
it up and then some girl wrote 

642
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,240
it in cursive and put it on 
Tumblr. 

643
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,680
I think that's how that 
happened. 

644
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,600
Some people do wonder, or they 
did wonder back in the day. 

645
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,240
Did Alexa leave it behind on 
purpose? 

646
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:17,360
Oh, yeah, maybe. 
Yo, why would you, huh. 

647
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,640
Like. 
How could you leave it? 

648
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,520
Yeah, honestly, it makes her 
look bad that, like, I know I 

649
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,480
would write you a really 
romantic down. 

650
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,760
Take hard and you forget about 
it. 

651
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,720
Leave it at the bar. 
That's pretty bad. 

652
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,680
It was a really sweet, well 
written card and to just leave 

653
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,400
it there, I can't believe that. 
But she drunk maybe. 

654
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,920
Had to be, yeah. 
That's honestly, like, 

655
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:49,480
regrettable on her fire, I know.
Yeah, accidents happen, but. 

656
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,640
I would be heartbroken if I 
wrote someone like AI know sweet

657
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,520
letter and they just like lost. 
It. 

658
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,200
I know I can. 
I can just picture him being 

659
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,840
like, oh, where's your card? 
Oh, oh. 

660
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,120
Shit. 
And I feel like I would try to 

661
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,920
go back and get it. 
I don't know. 

662
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,160
I just like that's especially 
like. 

663
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,600
Say they ended up together. 
Obviously they didn't, but like,

664
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,640
that's a relic from the early 
stages of dating. 

665
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,440
I know, So special. 
And it's Alex Turner. 

666
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,600
I know, gosh, sorry. 
But at least hey, someone did 

667
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,320
her a favor like you saw some 
other. 

668
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,880
It's like OK now I can look back
and I can see what it what he 

669
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,200
wrote. 
Now it's memorialized forever 

670
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,360
online on this podcast that 
worked out. 

671
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,040
Yeah. 
And then also February 2008, 

672
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,640
there were the Enemy Shock Waves
awards and I guess they have 

673
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,240
fashion categories. 
And Alexa won best Dressed and 

674
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,360
Alex was actually in that 
category too. 

675
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,880
He was also in the best dressed 
category, but she won. 

676
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,520
And there was a news story that 
after that enemy awards, Alexa 

677
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,120
puked on Alex. 
The. 

678
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,280
Story said Alex and Alexa were 
having a cheeky snog by the 

679
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,520
lifts shortly before he was due 
to go on stage. 

680
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,080
Was all getting pretty heated. 
Hang on, this is like, what? 

681
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,560
Why would they be getting heated
when all of a sudden Alexa began

682
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,880
to heave and was suddenly 
violently sick? 

683
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,240
After filming her show all day, 
it appears she'd developed a 

684
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:26,920
severe bout of food poisoning. 
Alex was a knight in shining 

685
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,360
armor, though he insisted on 
accompanying her to the toilets 

686
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,080
and holding her hair back as she
hurled in the loo. 

687
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,840
And that's sweet. 
Yeah, I I did at first think it 

688
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,680
was because I read about it a 
couple places. 

689
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,200
I thought at first is from being
drunk, but OK, maybe it was food

690
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,880
poisoning. 
That's worse, honestly. 

691
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,160
I know food poisoning is the 
worst. 

692
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,400
That can come out either end 
that stuff I. 

693
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,960
Know. 
I feel like stuff like that 

694
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,960
happens eventually to every 
couple though. 

695
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,960
Every That's what I really like 
about my boyfriend now. 

696
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:05,240
It's like we're now at a stage 
where like we both get stomach 

697
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:08,320
aches around each other and it's
like it's just comfortable. 

698
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:13,160
No, that's awesome. 
You need that. 

699
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:18,680
I do need. 
Lord knows I get stomach aches a

700
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,800
lot, but guess what? 
So does he match made enough? 

701
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:28,560
That's perfect, I know. 
OK, so back on the timeline 

702
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,000
2009, they're still together. 
Arctic Monkeys release their 

703
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:39,120
third album called Humbug, and 
this album has my favorite song 

704
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,120
of there is Cornerstone. 
Love it, but I'm not going to 

705
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,880
talk about that song, but I am 
going to look at one song 

706
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,880
lyrics. 
You could look at a couple of 

707
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,080
them, probably, But just for the
sake of time, I'm just going to 

708
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,080
do this one because, you know, 
Alex writes the lyrics so you 

709
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,280
can assume some of them are 
inspired by Alexa Chung. 

710
00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:01,240
And there's this song called The
Fire and the Thud, and there's 

711
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:04,560
some cute lyrics. 
It says, The day after you stole

712
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,360
my heart. 
Everything I touched told me it 

713
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,560
would be better shared with you,
with you. 

714
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,760
And now you're hiding in my 
soup. 

715
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,520
And this book reveals your face.
And there's a splashing in my 

716
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,040
eyelids as this concentration 
continually breaks. 

717
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,960
I did request the mark you cast 
didn't heal as fast. 

718
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,440
I hear your voice in silences. 
So is that about Alexa? 

719
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:34,040
Maybe, probably. 
But then also in 2009, Alexa 

720
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,840
reveals that she's moving to New
York City. 

721
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,680
Oh no, to host. 
It's on with Alexa Chung on MTV.

722
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:47,120
And I actually used to watch 
this show randomly at lunchtime 

723
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,400
in the summertime. 
Back in the day, it only ran for

724
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:50,960
two. 
Seasons. 

725
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,280
This is how I know we're 
actually. 

726
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:57,760
Yeah, it's on with Alexa Chung, 
and Alex agreed to move with her

727
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,160
to New York. 
Yeah, yeah. 

728
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,040
And I'm not sure if it's true, 
but an Enemy magazine article 

729
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,760
claimed it caused tension with 
the band, but they didn't break 

730
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,000
up or anything. 
So I don't know how serious that

731
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,800
was. 
But you know, now that she has 

732
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,160
this American show, people are 
over here learning who she is. 

733
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,240
People magazine had an article 
about her. 

734
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,680
They said her boyfriend is in a 
band. 

735
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,640
While her love life is a hot 
topic back home, Chung admits 

736
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,480
her relationship with Alex 
Turner, lead singer, British 

737
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,320
rock band Arctic Monkeys is a 
lot more low key than people 

738
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,160
think. 
It's not like we're always 

739
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,800
breaking up and getting back 
together or cheating on each 

740
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,280
other, she says. 
We're quite boring really. 

741
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:50,760
I mean, I wouldn't assume that 
they were cheating on each other

742
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,000
like she kind of put that 
thought. 

743
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,440
There, I know, right? 
Always. 

744
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,600
Always. 
I don't know. 

745
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:06,080
And so now they're living in New
York together. 

746
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:11,600
And I think Alex seemed to enjoy
it just based on pictures and 

747
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,600
times. 
He talked about it and 

748
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,280
everything, and she's doing her 
show. 

749
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,240
And she talked about their life 
together again in an article 

750
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,240
about A Day in the Life of Alexa
Chung. 

751
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:24,040
And she mentioned Alex. 
She said if we're out, I'm 

752
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,160
always the party pooper. 
I like to be in by 10. 

753
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:31,360
I like to be in bed by 10:00 PM.
Sometimes I take my computer, 

754
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,640
which isn't very sexy, is it? 
I'm obsessed with Facebook. 

755
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,920
Alex and I like to chill out to 
a record and we fall asleep with

756
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,880
our arms around each other. 
He's really little and so am I. 

757
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,120
So no one gets a dead arm. 
Sometimes we wake up in the same

758
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,200
position. 
It's the best thing ever. 

759
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:52,320
It's very cute, very cute. 
There's really not a lot known 

760
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,160
about what's going on with them.
This is in 2010, but then June 

761
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,640
2010, there's this article in 
the Mirror British tabloid that 

762
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,360
said that they had a row at 
Glastonbury Festival. 

763
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,640
But who knows if that's really 
true. 

764
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:15,960
I don't know 2011 March 2011 
Alex releases an EP for the 

765
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,080
movie Submarine. 
It's a soundtrack that he wrote 

766
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,800
for this movie, which is a movie
that I really like. 

767
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,480
It's really cute. 
It's just like a coming of age 

768
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,400
British teenager breaks being 
wallflower type of movie. 

769
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:33,120
And the soundtrack is so sweet 
and soft. 

770
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,640
It's like this little acoustic 
album and it's actually my top 

771
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,000
played songs of all time. 
It's still the soundtrack 

772
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,560
because. 
Yeah, because it's just, you 

773
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,280
know, like on rainy days, I 
don't know. 

774
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,920
I like to listen to kind of soft
music. 

775
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,680
But but this record is really 
good because it's not 

776
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,160
depressing. 
It's like it's great for rainy 

777
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,840
days, but it doesn't get you too
down. 

778
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,240
Like I don't know, Bunny there 
or. 

779
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,440
It's. 
Really good, yeah. 

780
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,680
Even if you haven't seen the 
movie, the submarine soundtrack,

781
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,240
it's really good. 
And Arctic Monkeys, they've 

782
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:11,360
never had any music like this. 
And Alex has never released 

783
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,880
music like this ever again. 
I mean, they have some more slow

784
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,920
acoustic songs, but nothing 
really like this. 

785
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,680
And you know, he's with Alexa 
during this time, so you have to

786
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,880
wonder if it could be inspired 
by her or feelings from her. 

787
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,800
And I'm just going to read some 
lyrics from one song stuck on 

788
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,320
the puzzle. 
It's called It's Cute. 

789
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,720
It says that something in your 
magnetism hadn't just made him 

790
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:43,080
drop whoever his hand it was 
that he was holding. 

791
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,600
I've been searching from the 
bottom to the top for such a 

792
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,200
sight as the one I caught when I
saw your fingers dimming the 

793
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,160
lights, like you're used to 
being told that you're trouble. 

794
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,560
And I spent all night stuck on 
the puzzle and I don't know why.

795
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,600
I can just picture like sichung.
I don't know. 

796
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,080
I can picture him thinking of 
her like dimming the lights and 

797
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:09,080
being sneaky and I don't know, 
so I thought that was cute. 

798
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:15,080
But Alex was interviewed by 
Vanity Fair May 2011, and in a 

799
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,400
very carefree way, he mentioned 
his girlfriend Alexa and moving 

800
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,640
to New York for her job. 
And I don't think I put any 

801
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,840
quotes from that, but it just 
seems like he felt very 

802
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,000
comfortable to mention her and 
wasn't guarded about it or 

803
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,040
anything. 
And then I read a quote from 

804
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,560
Alexa about Alex, and I actually
couldn't figure out when this 

805
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,120
was from, So I just put it in 
this place in the timeline. 

806
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,200
But I don't know if this 
actually happened here, but to 

807
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,440
Vogue, she said about Alex. 
He's the sort of person who 

808
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,080
reads the dictionary at night. 
I'm like, dude, you're 25, let's

809
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,200
go to the pub. 
I thought she goes to bed at. 

810
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,240
I know, right? 
In bed by 1030, though. 

811
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,600
I know. 
And she doesn't. 

812
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,400
She bring her laptop to the pub.
Too. 

813
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,240
No. 
She brings her laptop to bed. 

814
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,960
Oh, I thought. 
OK, that's better. 

815
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,840
But there's no way she goes. 
She went to bed at 10 I. 

816
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,200
No, I don't have to be, she said
in bed by 10:30. 

817
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,400
I know that means you have to be
home by like at least 945 like. 

818
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,960
And if she's going to all these 
events, I just think there's no 

819
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,360
way. 
No. 

820
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,960
Girl. 
No, no, no. 

821
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,080
I thought it was funny, too. 
Where she in that day? 

822
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,160
In the life. 
She said. 

823
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,920
I get up really early. 9:00 AM 
Yeah. 

824
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,960
I mean, I get it. 
I don't get up that early 

825
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,160
because I work remotely, but 
that's not early. 

826
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,800
That's so funny. 
Yeah, I go really early, 9:00 AM

827
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,080
any later than nine. 
I do feel like, Oh my God, 

828
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,320
sometimes you need to sleep in 
later, but like later, I'm like,

829
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,000
I slept. 
In I know. 

830
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,720
These days, I mean that's late. 
That's so. 

831
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:00,040
Funny. 
So June 2011, Alex was 

832
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,960
interviewed by the Taipei Times,
apparently random interviewed by

833
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,760
the Taipei Times. 
And he talked about music but 

834
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,360
also about Alexa and was asked, 
do you think that the 

835
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,600
relationship magnifies, 
magnifies attention that the 

836
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,640
band guest gets? 
And he said, I suppose it does, 

837
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,120
yeah. 
And then they said following 

838
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,400
your girlfriend to New York for 
her work is quite new man for a 

839
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,440
Sheffield lad. 
I get that means but I guess 

840
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,880
just saying that's a big deal. 
And he said I was glad she asked

841
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,040
me to go with her. 
And then the interviewer said, 

842
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,560
but moving to the US for someone
is pretty special, rather really

843
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,960
rather lovely. 
And he said I didn't think of it

844
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,480
like that. 
I thought the pleasure is all 

845
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,720
mine. 
And then he said the first time 

846
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:49,320
I went to New York it was really
exciting and I thought given 

847
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,200
half the chance it would be nice
to live there. 

848
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,560
The same with London. 
So if you get something to give 

849
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,720
you the IMP impetus, that's 
great. 

850
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,320
Yeah. 
I mean, that makes sense. 

851
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,480
Yeah. 
I mean, I have a friend that 

852
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,920
just moved to San Francisco 
because her boyfriend was moving

853
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,280
there and they, like, weren't 
dating super long, but she was 

854
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,120
like, I was ready for a change. 
So it was nice to have, like, a 

855
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,400
reason to move there. 
Cool. 

856
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,120
But yeah, it's like sometimes 
it's nice to have that thing. 

857
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,680
That is the reason to do it. 
But also, he was a musician. 

858
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,200
Like, it makes sense for him to 
go to New York. 

859
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,040
It's not like he's moving to. 
I don't know. 

860
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:31,600
Like Fort Lauderdale. 
I know, Yeah, he's. 

861
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,720
Dallas, TX. 
He seemed uncomfortable with 

862
00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:36,240
him, implying like that was 
really nice of you. 

863
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,440
Yeah. 
Does he still live in New York 

864
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,560
or is he back in England now, 
you know? 

865
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,520
I think he's back in England, 
but I also think he then lived 

866
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,600
in LA. 
For a bit, yeah. 

867
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,000
I mean, I feel like I kind of 
assume that anyone who's famous 

868
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,080
spends a lot of time in New York
and LA. 

869
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,160
Yeah, it's true. 
It's true, there's more music 

870
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,840
Arctic Monkeys. 
So that last thing was just a 

871
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,720
solo project. 
But then Arctic Monkeys this is 

872
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,440
2011. 
They released the album Suck It 

873
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:11,680
and See. 
Your love is light custodied 

874
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:20,120
leather headlock. 
You kiss it cold, put creases in

875
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:35,600
the room, and those are the 
girls that just post snakes. 

876
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,360
Which sounds really vulgar, but 
apparently it's a British saying

877
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,480
that just means like just try 
something and see if it works or

878
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,840
like, give it a try. 
So OK, I'm sure there's like a 

879
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,280
double entendre, but suck It and
See. 

880
00:51:51,680 --> 00:52:00,520
And yeah, the the title track 
Suck It and See It is pretty 

881
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,680
romantic and Arctic Monkeys at 
this time hadn't been known for 

882
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,560
having very romantic songs, I 
would say. 

883
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,040
So I do think it could be 
inspired by Alexa, as well as a 

884
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,200
couple other songs like She's 
Thunderstorms. 

885
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,960
But I'm just going to read a 
couple lyrics for any fans 

886
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,680
listening, He writes. 
Your Love is like a studded 

887
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,560
leather headlock. 
Your kiss. 

888
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,560
It could put creases in the 
rain. 

889
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,680
You're rarer than a can of 
dandelion and boredock, which is

890
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,840
a old fashioned British drink. 
I didn't know that you're rarer 

891
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,720
than a can of dandelion and 
burdock and the other. 

892
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:40,520
Those other girls are just post 
mixed lemonade. 

893
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,080
Suck it and see. 
You never know. 

894
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,840
Sit next to me before I go. 
Be cruel to me because I'm a 

895
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,920
fool for you. 
And then he also says I poured 

896
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,280
my aching heart into a pop song.
I couldn't get the hang of 

897
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,760
poetry. 
That's not a skirt girl. 

898
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,400
That's a son off shotgun. 
And I can only hope you've got 

899
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,080
it aimed at me. 
Blue Moon girls from Once Upon A

900
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,120
Shangri-La. 
How often I wonder where you 

901
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,600
are. 
You have that face that just 

902
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,040
says baby, I was made to break 
your heart. 

903
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,000
Oh. 
And maybe she did, because then 

904
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,800
in early July, it's reported 
that after four years together, 

905
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:25,520
Alex and Alexa have broken up. 
Is there any? 

906
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,480
Do you have any sense of what 
happened? 

907
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:33,480
Or, well, you know, there's all 
these, yeah, there's all these 

908
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,280
talks from sources, 1 Insider 
told The Mirror. 

909
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,080
Things haven't been going well 
and they haven't seemed like a 

910
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:45,720
couple for the past few weeks at
Glastonbury Festival, like it 

911
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:48,480
always comes out in the 
festivals, they barely said a 

912
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,400
word to each other. 
Alexa was out seeing bands with 

913
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,360
all her buddies like Pixie 
Geldof and Fifi Brown while Alex

914
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,480
was on his tour bus chilling 
with his band. 

915
00:53:57,720 --> 00:54:00,080
They really wanted to give it a 
go and hold it together and 

916
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,680
seemed to be getting back on 
track when things got bad again.

917
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,640
And they both decided enough was
enough. 

918
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,120
And then a spokesman for the 
couple said it's completely 

919
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,160
amicable. 
But yes, it's true, they have 

920
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,720
split. 
Alexa has moved all her stuff 

921
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:17,240
out and is concentrating on 
getting her American TV career 

922
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:22,200
back on track because, Oh yeah, 
it's almost Alexa Chung was 

923
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,400
canceled after two seasons. 
The source also went on to say 

924
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,280
Alex has gigs in America next 
month but none of them are on 

925
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,080
the East Coast. 
Then he's planning UK tour. 

926
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,760
They are very busy and have 
grown apart, but they want to 

927
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,760
keep the news quiet. 
Should add that to the drinking 

928
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,560
game, people being too busy. 
I know I hate. 

929
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,160
It. 
It stinks. 

930
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,920
But you know what? 
Like I feel like if it was meant

931
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,400
to be, you'd still be able to 
make it. 

932
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,200
Work. 
Yes, I've always felt that way. 

933
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,760
I've always felt like when 
someone tells you they're too 

934
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,960
busy to date or something, I 
mean, I don't want to hurt 

935
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:02,600
feelings if you've heard that 
before, but I feel like people 

936
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,680
can always make time, You know 
what I mean? 

937
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,480
Yeah, for the ones that matter 
most. 

938
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:13,200
And if someone can't or won't, 
then you're better off without 

939
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,800
them. 
And you know. 

940
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:19,080
But I think it's just at the end
of the day, in those situations 

941
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,520
it's not a match because some 
people might need more from a 

942
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,280
relationship than other people 
are able to give. 

943
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,840
Like some people might might be 
really busy but they're OK not 

944
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,920
speaking every day or they're OK
like. 

945
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,640
But I feel like that's a very 
stable person. 

946
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,240
And like if they're used to like
talking 24/7 and seeing each 

947
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:42,280
other every day, then it's 
probably too hard to maintain 

948
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,360
that connection. 
Yeah, it's just interesting 

949
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,480
though, because, you know, 
they've been together for years.

950
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,560
They've had pretty much the same
job this whole time. 

951
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,680
You know, why could they do it 
in the beginning and why can't 

952
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,600
they do it anymore? 
You know, maybe they just got 

953
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,160
tired and. 
Yeah, that's true. 

954
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,240
I mean, those like what? 
They started dating 23 and 21. 

955
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:08,960
Yeah, those years. 
Like people drastically change 

956
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,360
in that time. 
They do, they do. 

957
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,840
And I'm going to talk about that
in a minute, But Alex reportedly

958
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,120
moved on very quickly after 
this. 

959
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,440
Like, I would say maybe maybe I 
I should have gotten the actual 

960
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,760
time stamps, guys. 
So I'm sorry, but maybe within 

961
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,840
like a month or two, I don't 
know, was dating this girl, 

962
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:34,160
Ariel Vandenberg. 
She's also ATV host and model, 

963
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,560
which is weird. 
Oh. 

964
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,320
That hasn't hurt. 
Like in a perfect world, your ex

965
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,840
would take a while to move on as
well. 

966
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,280
So that way, by the time you 
accept that, you're no longer 

967
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,720
together, like you don't care if
they're with somebody else. 

968
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,320
Yes, in their perfect world, but
that doesn't always happen. 

969
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,560
No, because for him, people who 
who do that, he probably wasn't 

970
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,640
really over it because he needed
to replace her. 

971
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:09,000
Alexa was linked to a lot of 
guys in like the following year 

972
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,640
and they were, I think, all 
musicians. 

973
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,320
Once again returns to have a 
fling with Albert Hammond Junior

974
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,680
from The Strokes, which is 
crazy. 

975
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,200
I just got to say it's crazy 
that she had this fling with a 

976
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,320
guy from The Strokes, because 
Alex has said that Arctic 

977
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,240
Monkeys was inspired to become a
band because of The Strokes, and

978
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,920
they even have a song where he 
says in the opening lines he 

979
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,560
says. 
I just wanted to be one of The 

980
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,960
Strokes. 
So just crazy that she would 

981
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,760
rebound from this with one of 
the guys from the Strokes. 

982
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,560
That's legendary. 
That's so. 

983
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,280
Funny. 
Also the musician Theo 

984
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,440
Hutchcraft and Rob Aykroyd, 
who's a guitarist from Florence 

985
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,840
and Machine. 
And OK, that's it. 

986
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,120
That's it for now. 
That's it for now. 

987
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,160
There's going to be more. 
But in the October issue that 

988
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,640
your harp is bizarre, she 
actually talked about all these 

989
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,360
lead singers and musicians. 
She's drawn to you and she said 

990
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,520
it's the groupie vibe that I'm 
attracted to. 

991
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,800
They had these amazing love 
affairs and both the men and 

992
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,440
women made amazing by them. 
The girls in the 60s were never 

993
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,120
overshadowed by the men they 
dated. 

994
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,840
You can talk about Jane 
Shrimpton without having to 

995
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,440
mention Bailey or Terence Stamp 
first. 

996
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,440
I fell out of love with the 60s 
for a while, I think because I 

997
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,640
was so identified with it. 
It's like Sienna Miller when she

998
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,080
did Boho then suddenly stopped 
because she was like, fuck, what

999
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,520
else can I do? 
Because I've done it. 

1000
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,360
Everyone copied my sodden coat 
for a while too. 

1001
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,040
It was my Harrods kids vintage 
one. 

1002
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,400
Every girl suddenly had one and 
I was like, I got really bored 

1003
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,320
of smock dresses and loafers for
a while. 

1004
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,680
But I feel like I'm ready to 
fall in love over. 

1005
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,280
I'm ready to fall in love all 
over again. 

1006
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:55,240
So that was about fashion, but I
just included it because I, you 

1007
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,400
know, I feel like she was ready 
to change after this 

1008
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,760
relationship. 
And I also think her and Alex 

1009
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,840
were kind of into this like 60s 
thing. 

1010
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,640
So she's kind of saying she's 
ready to change. 

1011
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,000
And then she actually, in 2013 
she released a book called it 

1012
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:17,000
Meaning It Girl. 
And I remember we sold this book

1013
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,040
at Urban Outfitters when I 
worked there, and I used to look

1014
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,480
at it when I had nothing to do. 
It's not exactly a memoir. 

1015
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,480
It's more of a fashion book with
lots of pictures, kind of like a

1016
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,520
scrapbook. 
But there's some writing in 

1017
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,520
there, too. 
And there's a chapter in the 

1018
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,640
book called Heartbreak, which 
many people assume is about Alex

1019
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,240
Turner. 
And I'm just going to read a 

1020
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,640
paragraph from it. 
It says the problem with 

1021
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,760
Heartbreak is that nobody can 
help you when you're 

1022
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,280
heartbroken. 
Nobody. 

1023
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,600
And nothing. 
Not the films you watch alone, 

1024
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,000
desperately searching for a 
character who feels the way you 

1025
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,640
do, not the glasses or bottles 
of whiskey you keep by your bed.

1026
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,640
And certainly not Instagram. 
Wait, I'm gonna pause. 

1027
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,440
I I've never kept whiskey by my 
bed. 

1028
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:04,520
Have you? 
No, I think I have had wine by 

1029
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,920
my bed just coincidentally, but 
like, I didn't keep it there on 

1030
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,840
purpose. 
I just think it's one of the 

1031
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,920
ways she says that, like as if 
everybody does that, like, oh. 

1032
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:19,040
Yeah, wait. 
Not the whiskey you keep handy 

1033
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,840
by your bill. 
Yeah, Alexa girl, check it on 

1034
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,800
that. 
And then she goes on to say, and

1035
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,560
certainly not Instagram. 
Instagram will not mend your 

1036
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,920
broken heart despite your best 
efforts to post pictures of 

1037
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,640
yourself looking happy. 
Every time you post a picture of

1038
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:40,760
yourself to Instagram looking 
fake happy, a fairy dies fact. 

1039
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,080
Also, scrolling through photos 
of girls your ex may or may not 

1040
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:48,480
be shagging won't help you. 
You need to you need to remind 

1041
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,600
yourself that the right filter 
can be dramatically, can be 

1042
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,680
fantastically flattering, and 
she probably doesn't even look 

1043
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,640
that good in real life. 
Which I'm also going to pause 

1044
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,840
again, because it's crazy that 
she literally was a model. 

1045
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,320
And she is. 
Self-conscious about that. 

1046
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,840
And he's even comparing herself 
to other girls and saying, like,

1047
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,720
oh, she has filters on, you 
know, she doesn't look better. 

1048
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,200
It's crazy. 
That, I mean that just goes to 

1049
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,360
show that even comparing 
yourself, it's useless. 

1050
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:22,560
It's violence against yourself. 
It is, it is. 

1051
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,160
And she also goes on to write in
one part. 

1052
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,640
I am a self confessed groupie. 
I have never dated a man who is 

1053
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:36,080
not lead singer. 
And then she says, boys say they

1054
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,520
don't mind how you get your hair
done, but then they leave you 

1055
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,240
for someone with really great 
standard girl hair and the next 

1056
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,680
thing you know, you're alone 
with a masculine crop cut crying

1057
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:51,760
into your granola. 
I will say that's one thing when

1058
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,280
it comes to like, beauty 
standards. 

1059
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,080
Sorry, I'm like coughing, boys 
will say. 

1060
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,600
They will say stuff like that, 
of like, because for me, like 

1061
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:02,840
boys will say, oh, I don't care 
when you wear makeup or I don't 

1062
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,520
care when you get your eyebrows 
done or, you know, do this, do 

1063
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,560
that. 
But like, actually, 

1064
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,960
subconsciously you do like when 
you notice. 

1065
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,080
I hate to say this, I don't want
to, like, reinforce beauty 

1066
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:21,920
standards, but like just guys 
aren't aware of what goes into, 

1067
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,400
that's true, the appearance that
they're attracted to. 

1068
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,840
And so, like, when they say all 
that stuff, it's like they they 

1069
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,400
think they want someone who's 
just like completely all 

1070
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,160
natural. 
Like they don't put any effort 

1071
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:37,560
into it, but they don't realize 
what it means. 

1072
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,040
I would agree. 
I would agree with that. 

1073
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,960
And it's too bad she felt that 
way because OK, I like Alex 

1074
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,520
Turner. 
I had a crush on him but I don't

1075
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,680
think he looked the best at the 
end of their relationship to be 

1076
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,040
honest. 
No, I'm looking at him right 

1077
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:55,720
now. 
He's. 

1078
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,440
But at the end of their 
relationship is kind of when he 

1079
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,560
has a little makeover. 
I mean after their relationship.

1080
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,360
Oh. 
So it's frustrating that she 

1081
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,520
feels that way because, I don't 
know, I don't think the long 

1082
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:10,840
hair suited him. 
But that's just me. 

1083
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,880
Yes. 
She was interviewed by the 

1084
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:18,280
Guardian, by the journalist 
Hadley Freeman about this book 

1085
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,520
and asked about the heartbreak 
section. 

1086
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:25,480
And Freeman asked who caused the
heartbreak and she said it was 

1087
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,720
various people. 
There was one big thing and then

1088
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,720
there were various ill advised 
flings. 

1089
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,760
I had to get over him. 
So yeah, oh that's funny, she 

1090
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,800
acknowledges Ill advised. 
Because even I was like, girl, 

1091
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,360
what were you doing with Albert 
Hammond junior Get away from 

1092
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,840
him. 
And then the journalist Freeman 

1093
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,720
says. 
I tell her my theory about 

1094
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,160
heartbreak, that it takes half 
the amount of time you were with

1095
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,400
someone to get over them. 
She nods a little sadly. 

1096
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,600
And she says, yeah, I agree with
that. 

1097
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,080
But is this gross to talk about?
I feel like he wouldn't talk 

1098
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,080
about it. 
I don't know how relevant it is 

1099
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,520
now, whereas if you asked me at 
the time how you doing, no one 

1100
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,040
asked me. 
I don't know whether to be open 

1101
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,160
and vulnerable about open and 
vulnerable about it and say I 

1102
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,440
had a shit time or to be quiet. 
What do you think? 

1103
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,720
And then Freeman says it's up to
you. 

1104
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,840
I say, but I guess it might be 
healthy for your younger fans to

1105
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,680
know that your life is not 
always perfect, despite what 

1106
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,680
photos suggests. 
She laughs at the suggestion 

1107
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,920
that her life might be perfect, 
and she says, but I don't want 

1108
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,800
to imply he broke my heart. 
I was grieving for the loss of 

1109
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,240
for the loss of something. 
And she says I know how the 

1110
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,400
media does that whole poor her 
thing. 

1111
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,280
Like they did it with Jennifer 
Aniston. 

1112
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,000
Not that I'm compared to. 
Thinking. 

1113
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,520
No way. 
Not that I'm comparing myself to

1114
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,760
her, of course, but do you see 
what I mean? 

1115
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:49,000
And then Hadley Freeman writes. 
Yet typically, Chung can't help 

1116
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,800
herself and carries on. 
And she says I'm grateful for 

1117
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,440
the experience of that shit time
and for being on my own. 

1118
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,720
I'd never really been on my own.
I'd always gone from one 

1119
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,200
relationship to the next, so I 
had to learn all this stupid 

1120
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,360
stuff. 
Like how do you work my how do I

1121
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,040
work my fucking TV? 
And now there isn't a dude to 

1122
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,440
tell me how to put up the 
blinds. 

1123
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,040
But it's good to learn how to 
work your way around a drill. 

1124
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,000
She called. 
She and Al, as she calls him, 

1125
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,640
are still friends. 
Oh yeah, he's my best friend, 

1126
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,240
she says quietly, and she's 
currently single. 

1127
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,880
And she says, she says proudly 
and feels much calmer for it. 

1128
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,240
For how long? 
I ask. 

1129
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,680
About a month, she replies, and 
looks a little confused when I 

1130
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:30,120
laugh. 
So yeah, life. 

1131
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,520
Life went on. 
She dated other guys. 

1132
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:40,440
Alexander Skarsgard actually, 
and Matt Hits, and he dated that

1133
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,200
girl, Arielle Vandenberg for a 
while. 

1134
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,520
And then Louise Verneux. 
They both had a lot of 

1135
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,240
professional success. 
After this she launched her own 

1136
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:53,440
fashion label and she had a 
Netflix show called Next in 

1137
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:58,360
Fashion with Tan France and he's
released bunch more albums with 

1138
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,480
Arctic Monkeys and The Last 
Shadow Puppets. 

1139
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,240
In September 2013, Arctic 
Monkeys released their AM album,

1140
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,920
which is very iconic. 
I feel like it was super, super 

1141
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:13,600
popular in the US has songs like
Do I Want to know Are You Mine? 

1142
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,040
Why'd You Only Call Me When 
You're High? 

1143
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,480
But you know, I would like to 
look into these songs and wonder

1144
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,400
if they're about her. 
They're a lot. 

1145
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,000
They're really like sexy songs, 
like very different vibe than 

1146
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,400
the other albums. 
But he had been dating somebody 

1147
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,800
else, so. 
Yeah. 

1148
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,160
I don't know. 
I don't think he can say that 

1149
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,920
it's about her or anything so 
sadly. 

1150
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,080
We've talked about this like 
music you can only interpret so 

1151
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,320
much, like even songs that are, 
like, widely believed to be 

1152
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,360
about. 
Someone, yeah, yeah, yeah, you 

1153
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,320
can't know. 
And I will say like, during 

1154
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,400
starting in 2012, which would 
be, I guess like a year, they 

1155
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,480
broke up in 2011. 
OK, they broke up like summer 

1156
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,880
2011, at least publicly 2012, 
but maybe it started 2011, I 

1157
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,440
don't know. 
But I would say that's when Alex

1158
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,360
changed. 
Like he had a new persona. 

1159
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:12,680
He used to be. 
He seemed like so shy, quiet. 

1160
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:17,560
And then with this AM album, 
suddenly he's wearing like a 

1161
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:22,680
leather jacket, this greaser 
hairdo, sunglasses, even at 

1162
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:28,040
night, and he just seems like so
much more confident and sexier 

1163
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,920
and even more intimidating. 
And it is just interesting. 

1164
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,200
It's like post breakup. 
He suddenly is totally 

1165
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,240
different. 
Breakup will do that. 

1166
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:38,800
It will. 
It will. 

1167
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,400
Quite the time to reinvent 
yourself. 

1168
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,560
It is. 
So you know what? 

1169
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,000
They're not together anymore, 
but to the shock and delight of 

1170
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,840
Alex and Alexa shippers 
worldwide, they were spotted 

1171
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:54,280
together in New York in June 
2014, three years after their 

1172
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,160
split. 
They were photographed during 

1173
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,920
the daytime, standing on the 
sidewalk talking and smoking 

1174
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:03,120
cigarettes together. 
And there were rumors flying 

1175
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,480
around that they were getting 
back together, and some people 

1176
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,720
even say they saw them at 
Heathrow Airport. 

1177
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,840
But I don't think it was true. 
And he was actually dating a 

1178
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,760
model named Taylor Badgley at 
the time. 

1179
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,840
So I don't know. 
I think that I don't even know 

1180
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,479
if they really were at the 
airport together. 

1181
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,920
And I think maybe they were just
catching up. 

1182
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,800
Yeah, that happens. 
Yeah. 

1183
01:08:25,319 --> 01:08:26,720
And. 
The odds that people spotted 

1184
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:27,439
them at that. 
Time. 

1185
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,720
There's a bunch of pictures. 
And she was 30 when that 

1186
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,720
happened and he was 28. 
So, you know, I'm a bit older, 

1187
01:08:36,359 --> 01:08:37,760
OK? 
And I have just like a weird 

1188
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,520
Side Story to tell about his 
girlfriend at the time. 

1189
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:46,520
In 2014 he was dating this 
model, Taylor Badgley, and 

1190
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,479
apparently they got tattoos of 
each other's names. 

1191
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:55,840
But then they broke up in 2018 
and she changed her tattoo of 

1192
01:08:55,840 --> 01:09:00,520
his name to be a gravestone that
says RIP Alex. 

1193
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,479
Oh, that's tacky. 
Isn't that crazy? 

1194
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,880
That is crazy. 
That's honestly worse, though. 

1195
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,120
I think that is worse because 
that's like a bigger tattoo now.

1196
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:13,880
I know. 
I think there's a lot of other 

1197
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,720
things like you could just like,
fill it, like have a solid thing

1198
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,600
around it. 
I know like just get hurt around

1199
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:21,359
it. 
Fill it in. 

1200
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:23,560
It's a short. 
It's only. 4 letters I know, 

1201
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,960
unless it was a really big tag. 
It was kind, it was just on the 

1202
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,520
arm, but the letters were pretty
spread out. 

1203
01:09:29,319 --> 01:09:30,439
Oh. 
No, you got to. 

1204
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:34,040
You got to do that. 
Yeah. close spacing for. 

1205
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,479
I don't. 
Know what he did with his guys? 

1206
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,640
Be careful about getting be 
really tattoo careful. 

1207
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,880
We've talked about like. 
A common name. 

1208
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,760
And you know somebody else with 
that name and you could like, 

1209
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,080
play it off like that's who it 
was. 

1210
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,880
But like, what if that suck to 
be dating someone and they have 

1211
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,800
a tattoo of their ex's name on 
them? 

1212
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,880
That would be horrible. 
God I. 

1213
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,000
Would be don't. 
Set your yeah, don't set your 

1214
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:08,200
future significant other up for 
that type of jealousy. 

1215
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:12,760
Wait till you're married. 
A couple years, yes. 

1216
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:20,560
So then there's there's one more
instance in this story in 2017. 

1217
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,320
So this is 6 years after their 
breakup. 

1218
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,720
Apparently. 
There's a story that Alexa was 

1219
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:30,920
at Paris Fashion Week at the 
Shay Away Hotel when apparently 

1220
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,720
Alex's song from Arty Monkey's 
fluorescent adolescent was 

1221
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,520
playing. 
And I guess she went up and 

1222
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,680
requested that the DJ change it.
And he did. 

1223
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:47,360
Oh, I mean, hey, it's only a 
couple minutes go to the 

1224
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:51,360
bathroom. 
It's kind of worse that's. 

1225
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,000
But you know when you're a few 
drinks and. 

1226
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,840
Can't stand and listen to this 
right now. 

1227
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,680
Yeah. 
Today, Alex. 

1228
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,640
Oh, I mentioned her earlier. 
Alex is dating French musician 

1229
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,880
Louise Renu. 
Happy for you guys. 

1230
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,600
And Alexa is actually apparently
I didn't know about this as 

1231
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:15,080
dating Tom Sturridge. 
Who's Robert Pattinson's friend?

1232
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,440
I was thinking about him earlier
because you mentioned Sienna 

1233
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:22,560
Miller. 
Yes, Who he has a baby with. 

1234
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,760
Yes. 
So she definitely knows Robert 

1235
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,440
Pattinson. 
She must. 

1236
01:11:28,480 --> 01:11:30,640
Is that how is that what you 
said? 

1237
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,120
Robert Pattinson will come up? 
Yep. 

1238
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,720
Yep. 
And Tom Sturge is an actor. 

1239
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:42,000
I feel like he's maybe dabbled 
in music, but he's not a lead 

1240
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,920
singer. 
He's not, you know, in a touring

1241
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:46,800
band. 
Super famous. 

1242
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,000
No, he's not. 
He's not. 

1243
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:52,200
So that's a little different 
from her. 

1244
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:56,720
And yeah, I wish them the. 
Best I wish them the best. 

1245
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,520
I actually saw. 
I've never seen this before. 

1246
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,840
I'm sure people have done this, 
but I saw somebody photoshopped 

1247
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:10,040
a picture of Alex and Alexa what
they look like now together and 

1248
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,400
captioned it how Alex and Alexa 
would look if they were together

1249
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,760
now and made me feel so sad. 
Yeah. 

1250
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:20,760
Oh, someone should do that for 
Robin, Kristen. 

1251
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,200
It made me. 
Feel really sad. 

1252
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,880
But you know what? 
We always have these memories. 

1253
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:39,080
Odd they get back together. 
Not nothing, but I would say 8%.

1254
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,000
That's a good guess. 
That's maybe I'll just be 

1255
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,480
optimistic and I'll say 10% to 
be different, but. 

1256
01:12:45,480 --> 01:12:47,400
I like we've said 5 for some 
people. 

1257
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,200
I for some reason don't think 
it's that low because neither of

1258
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,280
them are married. 
No, they're not. 

1259
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,640
Either of them have kids like 
it's. 

1260
01:12:54,640 --> 01:13:01,160
Yeah, but it has been a while, 
so it's it's sometimes hard to 

1261
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,000
open the door again. 
Yeah. 

1262
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:08,280
So that much time passes. 
We don't really know each other 

1263
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,640
anymore. 
Yeah, it ended. 

1264
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,720
It ended for a reason. 
It did. 

1265
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:19,200
And it seems like they're OK, 
hopefully. 

1266
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:24,360
But yeah, that is Alex Turner 
and Alexa Chung. 

1267
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,440
That was so fun. 
Thanks. 

1268
01:13:28,440 --> 01:13:30,520
Mel. 
I like learning about these 

1269
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,680
couples. 
I know absolutely nothing about 

1270
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:33,840
SO. 
Yeah, me too. 

1271
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,440
It keeps. 
It keeps me on my toes, 'cause I

1272
01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:40,560
don't know how it will end. 
And I'm, I forget. 

1273
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,560
I don't even know if you've told
me, probably. 

1274
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,160
I did, I did. 
But I think this will spark your

1275
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:49,000
memory next week. 
I said that we we feel loud next

1276
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:56,040
week on Patreon bonus episode. 
This will be about two 

1277
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,840
directors. 
Oh, I know. 

1278
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,240
And that could be a couple of 
couples. 

1279
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,920
It could be there's there's 
actually a few couples that fit 

1280
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,680
that description, but you'll 
just have to find out. 

1281
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,200
All right. 
Well, all right. 

1282
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,040
Thank you guys for listening. 
We love you. 

1283
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:17,920
And we'll get back together next
week. 

1284
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:33,840
Is your heart filled with pain? 
Shall I come back again? 

1285
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:40,200
Tell me dear, how are you 
lonesome?

