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Are you lonesome tonight? 
Do you miss me tonight? 

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Are you sorry we drifted apart? 
Does your? 

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Hi, guys. 
Hi. 

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Welcome to significant lovers, 
yes? 

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Welcome back or welcome for the 
first time. 

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Yes, we are your hosts. 
Usually Mel is here, but this 

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week is just me, Kel. 
And me, Caitlin. 

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We're sisters, but usually every
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always had Mel until this one, 
which is so sad and I feel kind 

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of weird about it. 
But Mel and I actually used to 

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do the podcast without you, 
Caitlin, so now I'm experiencing

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it with just you. 
Maybe someday, just you and Mel 

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will. 
Do Oh my gosh wouldn't that be 

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weird? 
It's like a series regular just 

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missing from an episode 
randomly. 

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I know it's crazy, I don't know 
if I'll ever let you guys do it 

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without me but maybe, maybe 
something will happen. 

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No, but we would appreciate all 
your thoughts and prayers cause 

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Mel's mom is sick in the 
hospital right now and I feel 

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bad that we're even doing the 
episode without her but she gave

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us. 
Permission. 

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Commission or told us we should.
We always knew, like now that we

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have three people that this 
could happen someday. 

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So yeah. 
But anyway, oh, we didn't say 

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our little description of. 
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What this show's about? 
Yes. 

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So in case this is your first 
time, this is significant 

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lovers. 
We cover couples from history to

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today and we just talked about 
why they worked or why they 

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didn't, what happened and also 
apply it to ourselves and what 

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we can learn from their 
relationships. 

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This is also our very first 
episode ever where we see each. 

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Other I know it. 
Funny because we're doing it 

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well. 
OK, that's not true. 

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We used to record in person and 
we do record in person 

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occasionally, but this is the 
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over video. 
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doing it via Zoom, kind of. 
Yeah, this is this is a crazy 

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episode. 
Yes, Mel, we miss you. 

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I know she will be missed, but 
fret not, we have a great 

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episode in store for you, but I 
will be missing Mel's 

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commentary. 
Yeah, me too. 

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I'll try to think what Mel would
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OK, so Kate, who are we talking 
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What couple? 
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Well, like I mentioned, we do 
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day and today that is one of the
couples that we're covering. 

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We're covering a couple that is 
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that is Tom Holland and Zendaya.
I know, big couple, big heavy 

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hitter. 
It's nice to be talking about 

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people that are still together, 
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was Eric Clapton. 
I know how you, Boyd and George 

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Harrison and how disappointing 
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I know. 
So it is sweet to have nice love

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stories that you can listen to 
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And I'll be depressed, yeah. 
I wanted us to cover Tom and 

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Zendaya because I started 
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I never really did before. 
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long. 
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How many years? 
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OK, yeah, I, I mean, I didn't 
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I think back in the day I even 
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fake. 
I thought they were PR. 

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Yeah. 
I will be 1 to say that I even 

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did know a lot about their 
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MK Shout out to MK I love you. 
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day one. 
She is love them as a couple and

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she would always send me like 
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tweets that's about them and 
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like, see, you know, because I 
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Was trying to prove. 
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really believe them. 
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this year. 
So you know what, MK? 

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Sorry. 
You can see. 

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Yeah, you told me so. 
Because I was wrong. 

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OK, I did think they were PR. 
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is that they were filmed just on
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invasion of privacy, I know, but
somebody filmed them at Kakua 

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Chocolate Shop in Salem, MA 
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couple months, and it was just 
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I couldn't even believe. 
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description didn't even say it 
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recognize it right away. 
I was like, wait a SEC, I know 

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that place. 
Oh my gosh, I used to work 

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there. 
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like, OK, that's such a random 
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Like, why would they be there if
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And then I saw a picture. 
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now. 
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alcoholic beer line. 
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I think his beer was at a 
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And there's this picture that he
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I'll do it in video but people 
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She's like horizontal to the 
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Like she has her head completely
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laying down on the table with 
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closed mouth smile, putting her 
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It was a tall beer, very tall. 
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narcissistic, but it reminded me
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Like I've done that pose many 
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Yeah, I don't. 
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Here we are. 
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So anyway, I only mentioned all 
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them. 
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Spider Man movies and I know 
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He's in, Yeah. 
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movie, right? 
I've seen the Tobey Maguire ones

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a long time ago, but yeah, I 
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Emma Stone one to prepare for 
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the Tom Holland 1, so I felt 
like I'd be too much of A phony.

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Yeah, I knew that you loved 
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have to cover. 
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If you don't know, I've seen all
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Tom, all in theaters. 
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I was like a child. 
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Andrew ones in theaters. 
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I was there day one when those 
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I'm I can be hipster about that.
And one of my favorite Spiderman

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movies is Spiderman Homecoming, 
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Spiderman, not counting Captain 
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don't really, and I just think 
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Peter Parker. 
Oh, oh, you separate them, Yeah.

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Cuz some cuz people say like oh,
Andrew Garfield's a great, great

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spider man but not a great Peter
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And Toby's a good Peter Parker 
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And then Tom, they say it's a 
good a good spider man and Peter

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Parker. 
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the Black Swan and the white 
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Yeah, I guess. 
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Is that what it she's? 
I don't know. 

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Remember, in Black Swan he's 
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that her belly instructor is 
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Like you're good at being the 
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black. 
Swan yeah. 

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So he, he is good at both, I'd 
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And that was part of the reason 
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Sunday were a bit PR, because 
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had a fling or relationship with
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And so it's like, OK, it's like 
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Tobey McGuire did Tobey McGuire.
Apparently did have like a fling

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or something with Kirsten Dunst 
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Are they just raking in views 
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So maybe kind of like, I don't 
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I don't know. 
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Believe it, I guess we'll find 
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Yeah, in this episode. 
Especially after doing all this 

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research I'm like Oh my God 
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You'll see for yourself. 
I do want to give a shout out to

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at Spider Man in Love on Tumblr 
for their very comprehensive 

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record keeping of all things Tom
Dyer over the years. 

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I wouldn't have been able to do 
this episode without them so 

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very much appreciated. 
They gave me so much info so 

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shout to them. 
There are some really great 

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treasure troves onto the other 
people that put so much work 

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into these timelines and it's 
really just out of their own 

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love. 
I. 

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Know. 
The subject like I don't think 

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people got any money or 
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No, that's kind. 
Of anonymous website. 

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Like people doing it doing love.
Yep. 

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Yeah. 
For the love that person loves 

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Tom Dyer. 
So thankfully. 

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Do we have new patrons? 
To say yes. 

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So we have Teresa, Sydney and 
Emily. 

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Thank you, thank you, thank you 
for subscribing. 

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Thank you. 
Now, I do have Triviax. 

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I prepared this before. 
I guess we'll just see if Kelly 

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can get them. 
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Yeah, 'cause they're very much 
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way. 
So I can't really put it off for

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like another episode. 
So they kind of, we could do 

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that. 
They kind of have to be done for

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today because the first question
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That's when, spoiler alert, Tom 
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supposedly got together. 
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And love must been in the air 
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Flames couple got together, or 
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same year in 2016. 
Do you know which couple I. 

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Feel like you're going to be so 
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Know. 
They got back together, Miley 

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and Liam. 
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding. 

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Wow, nice. 
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guess, was in love because also 
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our past Hall of Flame couples 
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Do you know which couple? 
Tim Burton and Helena Bonham 

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Carter. 
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married. 
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Are you 2 more guesses? 
Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. 

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Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding. 
No way. 

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That was a. 
Long time ago, I know. 

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It's like it's still recent. 
I know. 

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I thought it was much later. 
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that same year, 2016, two people
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separate episodes passed away. 
Do you know who sad Johnny Cash?

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Nope. 
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embarrassing. 
I don't know when he died. 

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I don't remember. 
I couldn't tell you. 

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Elizabeth Taylor. 
No. 

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Oh, shoot. 
Do I only have one more? 

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Guest. 
I guess so. 

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Oh, is it Carrie Fisher and 
Debbie Reynolds? 

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Correct. 
They passed the last second. 

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I got it. 
I know. 

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So that's what was going on in 
2016 when this story we're going

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to cover today happened. 
There's actually a lot of high 

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profile celeb deaths in 2016. 
It was kind of insane when I was

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looking this up. 
Prince died, David Bowie died, 

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Leonard Cohen died, Alan 
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as well. 
And they'll probably all have 

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their own episode in the future.
But yeah, so this was what was 

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going on in 2016. 
Liam and Miley were getting back

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together. 
Brett and Angelina divorced. 

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Debbie Browns and Carrie Fisher 
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It was a big deal with that 
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I remember when Prince and David
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Died, I know. 
People were definitely talking 

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about it a lot. 
Wow, 20. 16 such a year. 

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So let's go back, Kate. 
What 3 words? 

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If you only have 3 words, what 
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Tommens and Daya, yes. 
So I actually really struggled 

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with this because there's so 
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It's hard. 
And all the ones I used were all

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compliments. 
So I was just there was more 

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compliments I could have used. 
But I'm going to say supportive,

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affectionate, and cute. 
Wow, yeah, sounds like a good 

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relationship. 
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together, but at the same time 
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together. 
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Yeah. 
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later. 
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My God, that would suck. 
It's a terrible thing. 

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I hope not, and I hope. 
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Let's hope things are still 
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episode comes out. 
I hope. 

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I don't expect there will be any
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please, please, I know or if 
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way in the future, we didn't 
know I'm sorry okay, okay, let's

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get into it. 
Who? 

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Are they as? 
People. 

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Well, Thomas Stanley Holland was
born on June 1st, 1996 in a town

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called Kingston upon Thames or 
Thames Thames, Kingston upon 

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Thames or just Kingston, which 
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area in England. 
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is a photographer and his father
Dominic is a comedian slash 

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author. 
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with three younger brothers and 
he he's close to all his 

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brothers. 
I feel like they always come up 

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and he's always supporting them 
and doing things with them. 

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Poor brothers. 
Wow. 

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I know. 
What a nice family. 

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I know I don't really know 
anything about them but. 

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It just sounds like. 
It I know they I bet they are. 

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Tom was educated at Don Head, an
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school in Wimbledon. 
When he was seven, he was 

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diagnosed with dyslexia and his 
parents sent him and his 

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brothers to a private school so 
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attention. 
And at age 9, Tom began dancing 

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at a hip hop class in Wimbledon,
where he performed with the 

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school group at the 2006 
Richmond Dance Festival. 

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And I bring this up because this
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changed his life trajectory 
forever, and for the better. 

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Wow, there's a lot of weirdly 
varying reports as to what 

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happened at this festival. 
Oddly enough, some articles say 

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that Tom's dance teacher, Lynn 
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dancing at the festival that she
put him up for an audition for 

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the West Ends Billy Elliott the 
Musical. 

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Apparently because she knew the 
choreographer and that Lynn 

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Page, his choreographer or his 
dance teacher, actually worked 

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with actor Jamie Bell for the 
movie of Billy Elliott, so she 

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has some involvement. 
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the festival, Tom was actually 
spotted by a member of the Royal

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Ballet School and they asked him
to audition. 

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But then also in an interview 
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made it seem like he and his 
family went to see Billy Elliott

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the Musical, which starred in 
2005. 

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And this is 2006. 
And they went to see it for his 

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dad's birthday. 
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like, would it be cool if I 
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And that's how and why he 
auditioned. 

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So I don't know what to believe.
Was he scouted at this dance 

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festival? 
Or did he just on a whim 

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audition for the play? 
Is this what you're talking 

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about? 
Last week when I said sometimes 

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there's like so many versions of
the story and like what is. 

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The truth, you know, this is so 
minor, like about this dance by 

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school, but I don't want to like
pick a side and be wrong. 

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You know, I don't want to come 
and tell you like, oh, this is 

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what bend and then that be 
false. 

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I don't want to give you false 
information. 

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Okay, I don't know what to 
believe. 

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But either way, Tom did get an 
audition for Billy Elliott 

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musical and he went for it and. 
Did he get the role? 

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I'll get to that. 
So Tom's dad later said that at 

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the time, he thought it was 
preposterous his son could be on

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the West End, he wrote in his 
book. 

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Tom's dad Dominic's book 
eclipsed. 

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There was just no. 
His dad's name is Dominic. 

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Yeah, I said that. 
Are you kidding me? 

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Why? 
What? 

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Well, OK, sorry this is going to
be a tangent, but you you know 

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about this. 
I love the podcast. 

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The rest is history. 
So much. 

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And the hosts of the show are 
Tom Holland, not this Tom 

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Holland, another British man 
named Tom Holland. 

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He's like double young Tom 
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And the other host's name is 
Dominic. 

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Oh, interesting. 
That's. 

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Weird that is both Tom and 
Dominic. 

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I love Tom Holland and Caitlin 
bought me his book so if the 

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other Tom Holland is listening, 
I'm your biggest fan, OK? 

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He's joked before about how he 
gets tweeted at. 

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Oh yeah, they think he's Tom. 
I don't. 

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Know why how people would think 
that? 

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Because his picture is clearly 
not actor Tom Holland. 

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But he said every time there's a
new movie, he gets like a wave 

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of new falls. 
So funny. 

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And then they're like, wait, 
when did I follow this random 

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man anyway? 
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wrote that there was just no 
way, no chance. 

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Ballet, tap singing, acting. 
Tom had never done any of those 

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things before. 
He has never been cast in any of

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his school plays. 
So this was very new for him. 

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He just started doing hip hop. 
This is like his first year 

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doing hip hop. 
And all of a sudden they're 

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like, be on the West End, you 
know? 

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That is, kind of. 
I know, and Stephen Daldry, the 

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director of Billy Elliot the 
Musical, said, however, that Tom

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had great potential, was a very 
natural actor and could take 

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direction, and all you needed to
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And thus, with that in mind, for
the next two years, Tom trained 

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in ballet, tap, acrobatics, and 
gymnastics, All of which then 

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helped Tom land the supporting 
role of Michael, the 

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protagonist's best friend, and 
he then made his debut 

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performance on the West End in 
June 2008 at the age of 12. 

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However, after only a few short 
months as Michael, Tom was 

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promoted to take the titular 
role of Billy Elliott, and that 

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was the role he would play for 
the next two years, from 2008 to

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2010. 
So impressive. 

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And although Tom's career was on
the rise, Tom did say that at 

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the time he was quite unpopular 
in school and experienced 

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constant bullying, in part 
because of his role as Billy. 

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But also, I don't know how true 
that is. 

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It might be, but I saw in an 
interview Tom did in 2010 and it

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seems like he and the other kids
in the show did school together,

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so I don't know if he was 
getting bullied by the other 

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kids in the cast or what. 
I doubt it. 

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Yeah. 
He was like I was being bullied 

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while I was playing Billy and 
it's like you were doing school 

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with the other cast mates during
this time, So what's the truth? 

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So he was no longer at his 
private. 

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No, he left his private school 
so because he was like doing 

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West End full time. 
So they had to do like school 

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for like actors, you know, like 
having tutors and stuff. 

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Was there a period of time 
before he landed the role of 

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Billy or something that he was 
still in his school? 

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I. 
Don't know. 

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Maybe, okay, maybe during those 
two years while he was training 

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for it, maybe, maybe, I don't 
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Probably I could see young boys 
making fun of him for doing 

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ballet. 
I don't even know how they would

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know. 
About that, I don't know. 

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These British American kids do 
it too, but feel like the 

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British kids always make fun of 
anybody in their grade who like 

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does something great. 
I know they're, you know. 

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Or is like, famous or something.
Broadway loser. 

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Yeah, or like you're the Prince.
That doesn't point. 

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God no. 
In America, I feel like people 

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are definitely stuck up. 
If you do something cool like we

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had when I was in middle school,
we had an Australian Olympian, 

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like she was trained for the 
Olympics, come to our school and

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yeah, she was pretty and stuff, 
but she came to our school and 

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everyone was obsessed with her. 
Like people were falling around.

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She was walking in a crowd like 
you could not get to her. 

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Interesting. 
I wonder if that is a real 

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cultural difference. 
No. 

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Maybe if she went to a British 
school they'd be like loser. 

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I don't know. 
You think you're so great? 

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Yeah, you think about everyone. 
He has to train for the 

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Olympics. 
Seems like that's that's always 

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the attitude, you know? 
Well anyway, after his time in 

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the West End, Tom went on to 
voice the role of show in the UK

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version of the Studio You of the
Studio Ghibli film Arietti. 

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We call it The Secret Life of 
Arietti, but apparently 

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elsewhere it's just Arietti. 
And he also landed a supporting 

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role in the 2012 disaster movie 
At The Impossible, and then the 

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2013 dystopian film How I Live 
Now, then the 2015 miniseries 

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Wolf Hall, and then the 2015 
loose film adaptation of Moby 

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Dick titled In the Heart of the 
Sea. 

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So he was pretty busy after 
being in the West End. 

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I didn't know there was a Wolf 
Hall miniseries. 

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Yeah, there is. 
I want to watch it. 

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I haven't read the book, though.
I want to. 

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It's on my shelf. 
Cool, but I'm intrigued. 

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Apparently it's good. 
That's why I've heard, anyway. 

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I was aware of the impossible 
when it came out. 

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I think I watched it over 
someone's shoulder on a bus or 

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something. 
I have a vague memory of 

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watching it muted over someone's
shoulders. 

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However, I was very much aware 
of the movie how I live now. 

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I was obsessed with it at the 
time. 

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At least the trailer. 
I used to watch the shit out of 

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the trailer. 
No joke, you. 

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Remind me what that movie's 
about? 

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Well, it's Sirisha Ronan, George
McKay, Tom Holland, all these 

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big heavy others. 
And so sheer. 

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She's from America and she goes 
to Ireland. 

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Correct me if I'm wrong. 
She goes to Ireland or maybe 

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it's England, don't remember. 
And then while she's there like 

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this like nuclear kind of 
apocalypse or like World War 

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Three starts happening and 
people get sent to work camps 

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and they need to like find their
way back to each other because 

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they're like family, you know, 
So it, it was good. 

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It wasn't like. 
To remember the. 

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Movie's not bad or anything, but
I love the trailer especially 

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for some reason. 
But that was my real 

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introduction to Tom Holland as 
well as Sue Sharona and George 

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McKay, but especially Tom. 
And most people probably 

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wouldn't learn of Tom, though, 
until he landed his next role, 

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his breakout role as the new 
Spider Man for Marvel Studios. 

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Whoa, OK, that's big deal. 
Very Big Tom had reportedly beat

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out 1500 other teenagers for the
role, which actually seems like 

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not that many. 
But some of the other actors he 

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was up against were ASA 
Butterfield, if you know who 

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that is, Charlie Rowe, Dylan 
Manette from 13 Reasons Why that

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would be interesting, and 
Timothy Chalmay. 

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Oh my God, are. 
You kidding? 

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I know Timothy Chalmay 
auditioned for Spider Man 

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apparently. 
I could see. 

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It I could too, but that would a
whole different universe we 

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would be in if Timothy got it. 
So this was 26. 

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This was before calling me by. 
Yeah, this was before calling me

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by a name. 
I mean, did you read that 

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interview? 
I think it was the Rolling Stone

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one with Timothy Chalmay, where 
people think of him as being 

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such a art house, like indie 
movie darling. 

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But he said like, actually, I 
when I got into acting, I wanted

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to be in like Christopher Nolan 
type. 

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Like he wanted to be in like 
manly action movies. 

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It's kind of funny. 
And he he couldn't get into it 

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because he wasn't like buff 
enough. 

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He just didn't have the right 
like body type. 

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So that's how he ended up in 
movies like Call Me by Your Name

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and Beautiful Boy. 
And anyway, it's a tangent, but 

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like, it's just interesting to 
think that I do think of them as

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contemporaries, I think. 
Yeah. 

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Timmy and Tom Holland are 
similar in some ways, but Tom 

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has like more of a 
wholesomeness, at least his 

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persona. 
Definitely. 

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And he does have like obviously 
action movies under his belt. 

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He's not. 
They're not getting really the 

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same parts as one another I 
would say anymore. 

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But Tom Holland isn't like AI, 
don't know, like Glenn Powell. 

454
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,600
No, Tom. 
Definitely wants to get parts 

455
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,120
like Timothy Chow and he kind of
has been going after those. 

456
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:42,280
I mean, I was going to talk 
about this later, but he is 

457
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,720
going to be in Christopher Nolan
Snacks movie, which I think is 

458
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,920
quite big for him anyway. 
Anyway, yeah, so to get the 

459
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,880
role, Tom had to do a screen 
test first with Robert Downey 

460
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,320
Junior and then Chris Evans. 
And according to the casting 

461
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,240
agent, everyone was impressed by
his acting abilities, but also 

462
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,600
his background in gymnastics. 
And it said that he sealed the 

463
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,000
deal by doing a flip and a back 
handspring during his audition. 

464
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:09,560
And it very much also helps that
he looked the part of teenage 

465
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,400
Peter Parker. 
Though Tom was 19 at the time, 

466
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,520
his trademark babyface made him 
appear much younger. 

467
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,640
So he could play a younger Peter
Parker and then could play the 

468
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,120
role for much longer, which is 
what they wanted. 

469
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,680
And he also has brown eyes, a 
nice head of brown hair, a 

470
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,600
square jaw, kind of big ears, 
and small thin lips. 

471
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,840
It sounds like I'm insulting 
him, but I feel like most people

472
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,800
agree that he's attractive. 
I'm just seeing the fact of his 

473
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,560
appearance. 
He does have small, thin lips. 

474
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,120
I'm not going to. 
All British guys. 

475
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,840
Do. 
And there's nothing. 

476
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:44,960
Wrong. 
There's nothing wrong with that,

477
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,920
He. 
Shouldn't get, I'm just. 

478
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:48,880
Stating facts. 
OK, I'm not insulting him. 

479
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,840
He's also been described as 
friendly, silly, charismatic, 

480
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,240
down to earth, energetic, 
bubbly, enthusiastic, caring and

481
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,280
responsible. 
Wow, what a sweet guy I know 

482
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,000
well. 
In June 2015, Tom signed A6 

483
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,040
picture deal with Marvel Studios
to play Spider Man. 

484
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,840
I know. 
I wonder how much for. 

485
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,920
It's intimidating, I know. 
Well, as of 2024, Tom has 

486
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,520
fulfilled that six picture 
contract deal. 

487
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,200
He has been in six movies, I 
think maybe more than that, 

488
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,520
maybe seven. 
Yeah, he's been in all six of 

489
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,640
those movies. 
But he must have signed another 

490
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,920
contract. 
I don't know when because he's 

491
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,080
also rumoured to be in at least 
5 or 6 more. 

492
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,960
What? 
How can there possibly possibly 

493
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,920
be these many, this many? 
That's crazy. 

494
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,200
Yeah, 'cause it's not just 
Spider Man and movies, he's also

495
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,080
in like the Avenger team up 
movies, you know, so he'll be in

496
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,200
those. 
So that counts as like a six 

497
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,720
movies. 
And three of the five or six 

498
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,560
more movies it seems like he's 
slated to be in are Spider Man 

499
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,040
movies that are going to come 
out in the future because they 

500
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,080
did 3 Spider Man movies already,
but it seems like they're doing 

501
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,760
three more. 
So he's going to have a six film

502
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,240
franchise. 
I know it is a lot, but I'm 

503
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,920
excited. 
I didn't like the second one, 

504
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:08,520
but I did like the first. 
The first and 3rd. 

505
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,840
So I'm, I'm happy that he's 
getting more OK. 

506
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,440
Anyway, so in 2016, Tom made his
first foray into the MCU as 

507
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,280
Spider Man in the movie Captain 
America Civil War. 

508
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,960
He also that same year starred 
in the movie The Lost City of Z 

509
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,480
alongside Hall of Flames member 
Robert Pattinson. 

510
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,400
Just shouting him out. 
Wasn't Sienna Miller in that? 

511
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,680
Was she? 
I don't remember if she was Hall

512
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,760
of Flames member also. 
Wait a SEC. 

513
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,280
So before he was in a Spider Man
movie, he was in Captain 

514
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,120
America? 
Yeah. 

515
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,640
How does that? 
Work they like introduced him 

516
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,720
through that to like get people 
excited for his first movie. 

517
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,400
Interesting. 
OK I'm sure. 

518
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,400
Oh I'm sorry if anybody 
listening is a huge spider man 

519
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,640
fan or MCU. 
They did the same. 

520
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,960
Cinematic Universe, you must be 
so annoyed. 

521
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,120
They did this I. 
Know other things OK. 

522
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:03,360
With Black Panther, his first 
movie in the MCU was also Civil 

523
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,680
War and that it was like get 
people excited for the first 

524
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,320
Black Panther movie also. 
So Tom's career was clearly on 

525
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,360
the rise. 
By early 2016, his first lead 

526
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:16,280
movie as Spider Man had been 
officially greenlit and the 

527
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,000
studio began announcing the 
names of the supporting cast who

528
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,040
would star alongside him. 
And one of the first names 

529
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,920
announced, to everyone's 
surprise, was a Disney star 

530
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,800
known as Zendaya. 
Just Zendaya. 

531
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,360
One name that's powerful. 
I know it works. 

532
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,880
Not that many. 
People get to just go by their 

533
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,680
first. 
Name I know Zendaya Marie 

534
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,000
Coleman was born on September 
1st, 1996. 

535
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:46,640
Same years, Tom in Oakland, CA. 
She was born to parents Claire 

536
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,360
and Kazim, both of whom are 
teachers. 

537
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,520
They were married when they had 
her, but as she got older her 

538
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,440
parents separated and eventually
later divorced in 2016. 

539
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,160
Sorry. 
Z See. 

540
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,440
Wow, I don't know, you're close 
like that. 

541
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,600
Yep, and with Nigerian ancestry 
on her father's side and German 

542
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,320
Scottish ancestry on her 
mother's. 

543
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,440
Zendaya is half black. 
In case you didn't know. 

544
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,680
She also has brown eyes, a nice 
smile and usually long curly 

545
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,520
brown hair. 
She's been described by herself 

546
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,440
and others as introverted, shy, 
stylish, quirky, silly, 

547
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,640
thoughtful, kind, self aware, 
resilient and ambitious. 

548
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,920
More, more shy than Tom, Yeah. 
Definitely more shy and her and 

549
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,920
Tom though are both very silly, 
which I think is why they work, 

550
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,160
which I'll get into more. 
But yeah, she she always talks 

551
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,320
in her interviews, but like just
wanting to stay in and just hang

552
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,600
with friends and like not really
go out. 

553
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:51,640
Like, definitely much a homebody
and definitely less prone to 

554
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,000
putting herself out there in a 
way. 

555
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,160
And he seems way more 
extroverted. 

556
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,480
Zendaya was raised with five 
older half siblings from her 

557
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,880
father's previous marriage, 
three sisters and two brothers. 

558
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,080
Zendaya was the only child from 
her parents union, but she's 

559
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,560
close with all of her siblings, 
as well as her nieces and 

560
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,360
nephews. 
And from a young age, Zendaya 

561
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,160
had a passion for acting in 
dance, in part because her 

562
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,640
mother worked during the summers
at the nearby California 

563
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,560
Shakespeare Theatre. 
And so as a kid, Zendaya took up

564
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,520
hip hop and who hula and 
performed in school plays in 

565
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,720
local theater productions. 
Hula. 

566
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,840
Zendaya attended Oakland School 
for the Arts and studied at the 

567
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,560
Cow Shakes Conservatory program 
and at the American Conservatory

568
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,160
Theatre. 
And when Zendaya was in the 7th 

569
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,400
grade, she and her family moved 
to Los Angeles so she could 

570
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,240
pursue her dream of acting. 
Wow. 

571
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,840
Take a drink. 
Feel like that happens a lot. 

572
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,120
Oh yeah. 
Take a drink. 

573
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,440
I'm drinking water. 
I'm actually for once not having

574
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,960
an alcoholic beverage. 
Now what are you drinking? 

575
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,800
I have two drinks going, I have 
a Salter, like a regular Salter.

576
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,080
And one of those Ollie Pop 
things was inspired by Mel. 

577
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,120
Nice, I like those. 
I haven't tried all the flavors 

578
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,800
though. 
So-called healthy soda. 

579
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,280
Yeah, I don't know. 
Yeah. 

580
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,640
Well, at first, Zendaya landed 
mostly modeling and singing 

581
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,880
roles. 
She was in magazine spreads, 

582
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,960
commercials and a music video 
for Kidz Bop, specifically their

583
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,240
cover of Hot and Cold by Katy 
Perry. 

584
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:24,920
Oh. 
My. 

585
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,120
God, it's still on YouTube, so 
if you want to check it out, you

586
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,640
can. 
I should. 

587
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,280
She's so young, it's crazy. 
It wasn't until November of 

588
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,400
2009, Wednesday it was 13 years 
old that she landed her first 

589
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,440
acting role in the Disney 
Channel show Shake It Up. 

590
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,960
She played the character of 
Rocky Blue, the Co lead of the 

591
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,120
show for three seasons from 2010
to 2013. 

592
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,200
Kel, do you remember Shake It 
Up? 

593
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,120
Like was it past your time or 
did you watch some of it? 

594
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,480
It's definitely past my time. 
I don't think I ever. 

595
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,080
Watched it. 
I watched it, but I don't what 

596
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,320
year was it? 
2010 to 2013? 

597
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,520
Yeah, I mean. 2013 I graduated 
high school. 2013. 

598
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,760
I graduated high school so I was
not watching. 

599
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,120
Shake it Up, I think I watched 
at least maybe the first season.

600
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,960
I don't remember the rest of the
show that well, but I heard it. 

601
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,480
Yeah, I do remember Zendaya. 
I remember her, and because you 

602
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,800
are my younger sister, I always 
heard about things. 

603
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,040
Yeah, because of you. 
Jake and. 

604
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,560
Probably vice versa. 
Well, during her time on the 

605
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,680
show, Zendaya also released an 
album under the Disney Label and

606
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,760
Hollywood Records, as well as 
completed as well as competed on

607
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,640
Dancing with the Stars. 
She came in second place. 

608
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,960
Spoiler alert. 
Wow. 

609
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,240
And she also acted in two Disney
Channel Original movies, 

610
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,280
Frenemies and Zapped. 
I've seen both I think. 

611
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,120
That's so interesting. 
I think she did music. 

612
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,000
I know because they always tried
to get, you know, their people 

613
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,600
to sing. 
Her Co star Bella Thorne also 

614
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,640
was like, they also made a 
singer. 

615
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,840
It wasn't really. 
I think Zinda had definitely 

616
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,720
abandoned it. 
I don't think she wanted to be a

617
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,640
singer really. 
She's not putting out music 

618
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,680
today, you know? 
Yeah. 

619
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,400
That'd be so great. 
Would be. 

620
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,920
Was Bella Thorne the main 
character or was she also? 

621
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,160
No, they're Co leads. 
OK, Yeah. 

622
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,320
Well, Sunday was a huge talent 
for Disney. 

623
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,560
And so after Shake It Up ended 
in 2013, the following year 

624
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,600
Sunday was cast as the lead in 
her own show called KC 

625
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,920
Undercover. 
And she would be on that show 

626
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,480
for three seasons from 2015 to 
2018. 

627
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,520
And this was definitely past my 
time. 

628
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,120
I was in high school at this 
time. 

629
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,280
I did not watch KC Undercover. 
I'm so really, I think you did. 

630
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,720
I know nothing about KC 
Undercover. 

631
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,360
I think you did secretly. 
I didn't. 

632
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,800
I swear to God I did not. 
I know nothing, OK. 

633
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,240
OK. 
OK, but Speaking of 2015, in 

634
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,480
February of that year, 19 year 
old Zendaya attended the 87th 

635
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,240
annual Academy Awards and there 
she wore a white silk off the 

636
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,960
shoulder. 
Vivian Westwood. 

637
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,840
Just saying that. 
And she also wore her hair in 

638
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,480
long dreads down her back. 
Now, if you weren't online in 

639
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,880
2015, yeah, then you may not 
know where I'm going with this. 

640
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,520
But if you were, then you know 
that this was pop culture 

641
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,639
history, OK? 
This was this was something. 

642
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,080
This was news, OK. 
The Monday night after the 

643
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:36,320
Oscars, Giuliana Rancic Rankic. 
Giuliana Rankic, who was then an

644
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,480
e-news anchor and a Fashion 
Police Co host, said while on 

645
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,679
Fashion Police that Zendaya 
looked like she smells like 

646
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,400
Patchouli oil and weed. 
And a couple days later, Zendaya

647
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,560
responded to Juliana's statement
with a tweet slash Instagram 

648
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,000
post saying there's already 
harsh criticism of African 

649
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,120
American hair in society without
the help of ignorant people who 

650
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,480
choose to judge others based on 
the curl of their hair. 

651
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,560
My wearing my hair and locks on 
an Oscar red carpet was to 

652
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,640
showcase them in a positive 
light, to remind people of color

653
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,280
that our hair is good enough. 
To me, locks are symbol of 

654
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,800
strength and beauty, almost like
a lions Maine. 

655
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,000
And she went on to say a bit 
more. 

656
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,600
But I'll just read that little 
expert. 

657
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,320
And many people came out in 
support of Zendaya, including 

658
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,240
Whoopi Goldberg, who just 
recently talked about Kerry 

659
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:27,560
Washington, Ava Duvernay, Chloë 
Grace Moretz, Khloe Kardashian 

660
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,440
and many more. 
And although Giuliana's comment 

661
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,600
was horrible and probably not 
great for Zendaya to hear, it's 

662
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,640
sad to say, but it kind of had a
really positive impact for 

663
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,080
Zendaya. 
It kind of launched her into 

664
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,240
stardom. 
Like following the events of the

665
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:46,480
Oscars, Fog released an article 
calling her a style star and 

666
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,520
saying they would keep an eye on
her going forward. 

667
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,000
And she's just kind of like a 
low level Disney star at this 

668
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,320
point. 
Like most people. 

669
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,600
Under the age of 12. 
Don't know who she is and Mattel

670
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,360
actually. 
I mean over the age. 

671
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,840
Yeah, people over the age of 12 
don't know who she is. 

672
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,240
Yeah, I meant to say that. 
And Mattel even made a Barbie 

673
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:11,560
inspired by her Oscar look. 
And she also was put in Taylor 

674
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,920
Swift's Bad Blood music video. 
I don't even think Taylor and 

675
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,520
today even she was on each 
other. 

676
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,560
She was on. 
So many magazine covers. 

677
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,360
So this is around the time and 
like the couple years after this

678
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,480
I saw just out myself and say I 
used to not like Zendaya because

679
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,160
I felt like she was really 
overrated and was like way more 

680
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:38,280
famous than she deserved. 
Like she was really in like the 

681
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,360
adults celebrity worlds for some
reason. 

682
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,120
And I just couldn't understand 
it and was like taken very 

683
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,400
seriously and also seen as like 
a style icon and stuff. 

684
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,040
But I feel really bad that that 
comment happened. 

685
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,960
But I did feel like it was just 
because not just because what, 

686
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,880
like, a big reason was because 
of the attention that story got.

687
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,960
And then. 
I don't know. 

688
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,880
Yeah. 
So I would say like, she's, 

689
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,600
she's disproportionately famous.
Like she's. 

690
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,800
I don't get why she's everywhere
because I felt like she was. 

691
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,840
But I have changed my mind 
because now I think she has 

692
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,520
acted sufficiently in a lot of 
more challenging roles besides, 

693
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,120
like, Disney shows. 
And I think she's a good actress

694
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,720
and I think she deserves her 
success. 

695
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:21,040
So I take it back. 
But around this time, I was kind

696
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,920
of mystified. 
Like I don't get why this girl 

697
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,240
is so famous. 
Yeah, I think at least for yeah,

698
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:32,080
like 2015 when she really blew 
up and became like, not really a

699
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,400
household name, but it seems 
like she was only famous because

700
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,360
of what happened, which sucks, 
but it's also like I. 

701
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,440
Mean she was on Disney. 
Channel. 

702
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,320
Yeah, she was on Disney Channel,
but it's like, what else are you

703
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,800
doing besides Disney Channel, 
you know? 

704
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,160
But anyway, I'd also be remiss 
in saying that Sunday's Oscar 

705
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,760
look and the events following it
actually LED to the creation of 

706
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,360
the Crown Act. 
This is a fact. 

707
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,680
And the Crown Act is a law that 
protects people from 

708
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,000
discrimination based on their 
hair texture or style. 

709
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,080
And this law has actually been 
enacted in 22 states. 

710
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,720
And the people who, you know, 
created the CROWN Act and pushed

711
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:10,840
it into legislation, they say 
that their inspiration actually 

712
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,480
came from Sunday's look. 
And then what happened about, 

713
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,680
like, discrimination. 
So she actually paved the way 

714
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,000
for important change. 
So I'm glad. 

715
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,480
It sucks that it happened, but 
you know what? 

716
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,160
It probably needed to happen so 
change could happen. 

717
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,360
Yeah, yeah, probably because she
responded. 

718
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,200
It's yeah. 
I feel like if she didn't it 

719
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,040
probably might have just been 
forgotten comment but she called

720
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,040
it out and was like hey what? 
That's not OK to say about 

721
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,800
somebody. 
What the heck? 

722
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,080
Anyway, about a year later, in 
March 2016, Zendaya was cast as 

723
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,960
the character of Michelle or MJ 
in the film Spider Man 

724
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,120
Homecoming alongside Tom 
Holland. 

725
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,600
It'd be her. 
Her name was Mary Jane. 

726
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,400
No. 
So normally she's called Mary 

727
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,400
Jane, but in this version they 
call her Michelle. 

728
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,680
What? 
I don't know. 

729
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,600
I think they did that because 
they wanted us to not know who 

730
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,880
she was playing. 
So she was listed as playing a 

731
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,520
character named Michelle and 
then to, like, keep it under 

732
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,680
wraps. 
But then at the end of the 

733
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,320
movie, spoiler alert, she goes 
like, oh, people call me MJ. 

734
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,600
So then it was like, oh, my God.
So she is MJ, you know. 

735
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,400
Yeah. 
Interesting. 

736
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,120
And apparently one of the 
reasons she got the role was 

737
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,920
because she wore no makeup 
during her screen tests, which 

738
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,080
carried over into the film. 
In the first film, at least, she

739
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,000
doesn't really appear to wear 
makeup. 

740
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,800
And added her own embellishments
to the character. 

741
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,480
Zendaya is so beautiful, just 
naturally like the fact that she

742
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,200
doesn't even need any makeup. 
Impressive. 

743
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,760
Well, in 2016 for The Hollywood 
Reporter, Tom and Zendaya spoke 

744
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,480
about their first meeting during
a screen test for the movie. 

745
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,720
And I'll let them tell the story
as well as talk about each 

746
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:49,560
other. 
My first meeting was Zendaya. 

747
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,360
Was very embarrassing actually 
for me. 

748
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,800
I don't remember this but he 
says that there was some type of

749
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,800
awkward hug shake thing. 
It's. 

750
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,240
Just one of those moments where 
it just wasn't my smoothest. 

751
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,920
It was kind. 
Of like a oh, hey, woo, you 

752
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,920
know, it was one of those. 
They look so young. 

753
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,520
I'm so young. 
How old are they here? 

754
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,800
So he's about 20 and she's the 
same. 

755
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,320
So I think they're about 20 
each. 

756
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,040
Yeah, 20. 
I don't know why they seem a lot

757
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,360
younger. 
He especially. 

758
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:25,680
Yeah, well, he seemed like 50 in
another story, I think in the 

759
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,840
same article actually, but not 
on video, Zendaya talked about 

760
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,920
how she was worried she wouldn't
get the part because when she 

761
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,280
walked in she realized that she 
was much taller than Tom. 

762
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,960
I don't know if she's also 
wearing heels or what, but in 

763
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,920
real life she is 510 and he is 
5/8. 

764
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,640
And Tom did say that when he was
casting or when he was helping 

765
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:52,800
them cast for, like, his 
partners in Spider Man, all the 

766
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,360
women that he read with were 
taller than him. 

767
00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:00,360
I don't know if it's because 
it's harder to find actresses 

768
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,400
that are shorter. 
I don't know. 

769
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,600
I think that I don't know what 
that makes sense. 

770
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,680
But I think they were, I guess, 
looking for a taller woman. 

771
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,880
I don't know. 
Interesting. 

772
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,880
Yeah. 
And sometimes in the MCU, they 

773
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,960
try to fake the shorter men 
being taller. 

774
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,520
Like Robert Downey Junior wears 
like, heels when he shoots, or 

775
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,720
like he stands with boxes. 
But not with Tom. 

776
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:24,760
They lean into him being short. 
So cute. 

777
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,280
Yeah. 
Reminds me of Tom Cruise. 

778
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,680
And. 
Nicole Kidman because she was 

779
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,960
also taller and was worried that
would be a problem for their 

780
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,560
movie and. 
I know I didn't include this, 

781
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,560
but they were in an interview 
once where the interviewer 

782
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,360
brought up their height 
difference kind of in a positive

783
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,280
way, being like, oh, 
representation, you know, and 

784
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,560
Tom was like, I know. 
And Tom was like, it's not that 

785
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,200
big of a height difference. 
It's only like 2 inches taller 

786
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,040
than me. 
Like it's not that crazy. 

787
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,280
It's like I'm. 
Not people are so weird about 

788
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,600
it. 
I know in like heterosexual 

789
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,840
relationships. 
I don't know why, but also I've 

790
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,680
never been taller than. 
A guy that. 

791
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,920
Would be hard, so I've never I I
guess I just don't know what it.

792
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,440
Is, yeah. 
Yeah, I'm only 5, two so. 

793
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,000
Mm hmm. 
I'm Kate is only 411. 

794
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,280
I know I'm. 411 Do people know 
that? 

795
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,560
Probably not. 
Hey, I'm so shocked. 

796
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,880
Well, anyway, it's 2016 and 
filming begins in May and June 

797
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,160
of that year. 
The cast appears to hang out 

798
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,400
together while not on set. 
Apparently they would all have 

799
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,280
sleepovers together, watch 
movies, go to the aquarium and 

800
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,040
Waffle House and have picnics 
and they would sing and dance 

801
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,720
together and have pool parties. 
And on July 10th, 2016, Tom 

802
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:46,920
posted a picture to Instagram of
Himmens and Daya, as well as 

803
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,480
someone else, but I don't know 
who in a pool together. 

804
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,680
So this must have been at one of
those aforementioned pool 

805
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,760
parties. 
And this is the first photo that

806
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,600
we have of Tommens and Daya 
together. 

807
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,760
Let me see if I know who this 
other person. 

808
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,080
Is I don't know if you'd be able
to tell. 

809
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:06,200
I don't know who this person is.
Yeah, so 2016, it's like a retro

810
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,200
filter on. 
Yeah, there's like a Polaroid 

811
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,520
border. 
I don't know if it was actually 

812
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,200
taking on a Polaroid or if they 
edit it to look like it, but 

813
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,480
they're making funny faces and 
he's doing a peace sign and it's

814
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,040
cute. 
Very summer. 

815
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,600
Yes, and July 23rd, a couple 
weeks later, the Spider Man 

816
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,040
Homecoming cast members attended
the San Diego Comic Con. 

817
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,880
And while there's Zendaya called
Tom the Bomb during one of the 

818
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,600
interviews and for the rest of 
the summer, Tom and Zendaya were

819
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,920
spotted out and about LA and 
Atlanta together alongside Tom's

820
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:41,560
personal assistant, Has and 
Zendaya's friend Deja Has comes 

821
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,560
up a lot because they'll just be
hanging out and his assistant is

822
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,120
just there. 
I've mentioned those. 

823
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,120
Interesting. 
In the George and Patty Boyd 

824
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,960
episode, yeah, just like how 
they would have their man, his 

825
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,280
manager there. 
They just have his assistant 

826
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,160
there sometimes. 
Keeps uncomfortable. 

827
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,600
I don't know. 
Yeah, and hard to understand 

828
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,400
being just a regular. 
Person I know well on October 

829
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,000
29th, Tommens and Daya were 
spotted looking cute and 

830
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,480
comfortable at a restaurant 
together. 

831
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,520
If you want to look at it, it's 
very cute. 

832
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,200
It looks so normal. 
Oh my gosh. 

833
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,880
This restaurant looks just like 
any family restaurant in your 

834
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,160
town. 
Literally the table like a mess 

835
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:28,520
with tin foil and plastic cups 
and Snapple bottle. 

836
00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:33,600
It looks so yeah, they look 
really like regular college kids

837
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,360
or something. 
Literally. 

838
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,320
He's wearing a hoodie. 
I think she's showing him 

839
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,520
something on her phone. 
I think so. 

840
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:42,360
She's smiling, He's trying to 
concentrate. 

841
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,440
You probably can't hear it that 
well. 

842
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,960
Probably like a busy restaurant.
Yeah, so cute. 

843
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,680
They're hanging out sometimes 
with the cast, but sometimes 

844
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,560
just together. 
And November 23rd, Tommens and 

845
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,760
Daya were spotted coming out of 
her apartment building and 

846
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,320
traveling together in the same 
car to Bang Bang Tattoo Studio 

847
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,880
in New York. 
And while there, we later 

848
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,520
learned that Tom got a spider 
tattoo on the bottom of his 

849
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,080
foot, so she was there while he 
got it. 

850
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,960
The bottom of his foot, yeah. 
I know that would tickle. 

851
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,040
That's an unusual place to hurt,
I feel. 

852
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,320
Tickle, that would be easy for 
it to, like, not rub off, but, 

853
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,360
you know, like, fade, too. 
Yeah. 

854
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,960
And end of November, Tom went to
Zendaya's house with her family 

855
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,840
for Thanksgiving. 
That's a big deal. 

856
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,960
I know. 
Well, that's really serious. 

857
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,880
I know he's a Brit, but, like, 
he could just have the day off. 

858
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,280
Yeah. 
Wait. 

859
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,560
Why? 
Oh, OK. 

860
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,600
Yeah, I guess because he didn't 
have anywhere to go. 

861
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,360
For like, it's not a big deal to
him. 

862
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,120
No, but. 
To be with her. 

863
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,400
Family, you know, and for the 
rest of the years, Zendaya and 

864
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,760
Tom appear to hang out a lot 
together, mostly in New York and

865
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,000
in Zendaya's apartment because 
she likes to just hang out in 

866
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,440
her apartment. 
So we just see a lot of him 

867
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,360
coming and going. 
And it's believed that one time 

868
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:59,320
during this time, they saw a 
Dear Evan Hansen together on 

869
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,360
Broadway, according to a cast 
member. 

870
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,400
And Zendaya also around this 
time, began filming The Greatest

871
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,280
Show Man. 
So she spotted out and about 

872
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,440
with that cast alongside Tom. 
So he would be hanging out with 

873
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,960
the Greatest Showman cast even 
though like he wasn't in the 

874
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,960
movie. 
And in 2017 on January 29th, Tom

875
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,120
was stopped to take a picture 
with a fan. 

876
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,560
And Tom apparently said, we 
don't know how credible this is,

877
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,800
but I don't know. 
He apparently said that he was 

878
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:30,240
in New York visiting his 
girlfriend and a few days 

879
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:36,040
earlier to that he had like come
to in New York and he was with 

880
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,440
Zendaya at her cover girl photo 
shoot. 

881
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,400
And why would you just be like 
at your acquaintance or friend's

882
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,720
photo shoot? 
You know, you could do other 

883
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:52,000
things with your time, you know?
True, so he doesn't live in new.

884
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,400
York No, that's kind of tough, I
know. 

885
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,640
He always just, he's just 
sleeping over. 

886
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,040
Yeah, but technically it's kind 
of long distance. 

887
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,400
Yeah, which I'll get to 
actually, because January 31st, 

888
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,560
Tom was photographed leaving 
Zendaya's apartment building 

889
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,160
with his luggage. 
And Tom then tweets A paparazzi 

890
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,680
photo of himself exiting her 
building, as well as a video of 

891
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,680
himself and his assistant has at
the airport. 

892
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,040
And that same day has tweeted a 
thank you to Zendaya for putting

893
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,680
them up, he and Tom for the 
weekend. 

894
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,120
And Tom also then posted another
paparazzi photo of himself 

895
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,320
leaving Zendaya's apartment and 
made it his profile picture on 

896
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,040
Twitter. 
So it seems like while he's in 

897
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,200
New York, he's living at 
Zendaya's apartment, you know? 

898
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,440
He made the paparazzi picture 
his. 

899
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,600
Profile. 
Yeah, sure. 

900
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,120
That's so weird. 
It was a good photo of him. 

901
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,200
I will give him that. 
Man, I always wish I got 

902
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,920
paparazzi pictures, you know, 
when I'm wearing a good outfit. 

903
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,240
I know that has happened to you 
before. 

904
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:55,080
Technically like an Instagram 
person was like cute alpha. 

905
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,400
Paparazzi it was, it was posed. 
But yes, I was on the 

906
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,360
Williamsburg St. style. 
So cool. 

907
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,720
I didn't even live in New York 
at the time. 

908
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:07,760
I was literally just a tourist, 
so I was so honored. 

909
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,880
I don't live in New York anymore
either, but anyway. 

910
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,120
So OK, it seems like they're 
dating. 

911
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,320
There's all these signs, but 
what are they saying at the 

912
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,080
time? 
They're saying nothing. 

913
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:18,920
Have they been asked if they're 
dating? 

914
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,440
No, because they haven't really 
been doing press or anything. 

915
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,320
So they're they haven't really 
been asked about it, at least 

916
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,920
not yet. 
And March 2017 while Tom was in 

917
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,080
LA, Zendaya posted a video to 
Snapchat with the caption your 

918
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,160
sick girlfriend really loves you
and then immediately deleted it.

919
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:42,440
And I for one, when I had 
Snapchat, I would always make 

920
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,160
the mistake of posting things to
my story when I didn't mean to. 

921
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,040
And so maybe maybe this is a 
case of that. 

922
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,200
Seems like I think. 
That this doesn't happen more 

923
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,720
often for celebrities. 
Maybe that's why they don't use 

924
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:56,600
Snapchat that often, I don't 
know. 

925
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,440
Where people don't have access 
to their Snapchat, I don't know.

926
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,640
Must have been for him. 
Oh my, I know. 

927
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:03,640
What? 
Seems like that's cute. 

928
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,200
I know. 
And she deleted it right away. 

929
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,480
Yeah, and a couple days later, 
on March 19th, Tommens and Daya 

930
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,000
were spotted out to dinner 
together in LA, just the two of 

931
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,040
them. 
And then later that month, Tom 

932
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,720
was spotted on the KC Undercover
set all day. 

933
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:22,520
So while this is happening, 
she's still on KC Undercover, at

934
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,040
least for another year. 
And April 2nd, 2017 was when 

935
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,320
Tommens and Daya filmed their 
famous lip sync battle together.

936
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,840
Tom performed Singing in the 
Rain as well as Rihanna's 

937
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:38,160
umbrella and Sindea lip sank to 
24 Karat Magic by Bruno Mars. 

938
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,280
And after the performance, there
was an interesting moment where 

939
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,280
Chrissy Teigen came down from 
ceiling dressed as Spider Man 

940
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,920
and she said she wanted to live 
out like her biggest fantasy. 

941
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,360
You know, like the Spider Man 
kiss. 

942
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,080
And in the clip I'm going to 
show you, it looks like Sindea 

943
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,400
looks nervous and kind of 
jealous about it. 

944
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,760
But you be the judge. 
Oh my God. 

945
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,520
I just wanted to see see if it's
possible that I live out one of 

946
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,520
my biggest fantasies. 
Oh, you want that super fantasy?

947
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:11,800
Oh, OK. 
I want to watch that again. 

948
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,000
Is Tom there? 
Yeah. 

949
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,840
Tom's there. 
He's the one with like the Bob 

950
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,720
cut and like wearing like almost
a maid's looking outfit for the 

951
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:24,480
Rihanna performance. 
Well, he's like a Bob wig, but 

952
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,880
she like looks nervous about it 
until I'm John Legend comes out.

953
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,440
She looks not happy. 
She does she. 

954
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,920
Turns her head really quickly 
and has like a serious serious 

955
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,760
expression on her. 
I'm watching it again. 

956
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,120
Yes. 
It's so funny seeing her react. 

957
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,480
You know, like, why'd she react 
that way? 

958
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,080
Clearly, she was nervous. 
Chrissy Teigen was trying to 

959
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:47,680
kiss. 
Him. 

960
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,000
No, that's the only actually I 
can think of. 

961
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,360
She's like, wait, what? 
No, what the fuck bitch? 

962
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,360
No, good on whoever caught that.
I don't know if it was you. 

963
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,480
It wasn't me, no, somebody else.
Plenty of people have caught 

964
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,400
that. 
But it was just crazy for me to 

965
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,240
see because I, I hadn't seen 
that before. 

966
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,000
Well, then a month later, on May
5th, during the press tour in 

967
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,000
Brazil, an interviewer asked Tom
if he had found his Liz Allen. 

968
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,200
And for reference, Liz Allen is 
the name of Peter Parker's love 

969
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,920
interest in Spider Man 
Homecoming. 

970
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,560
It's not MJ, It's this other 
girl. 

971
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,480
Name's Liz. 
And Tom responded to the 

972
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,200
question by saying, have I found
my own Liz Allen? 

973
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,360
Yeah, I guess so. 
Kind of. 

974
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,040
I may have. 
Yeah, maybe. 

975
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,720
Sort of. 
What so it seems like lame he. 

976
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:37,720
Might have what maybe they 
haven't like DTRD or something 

977
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:39,720
or he doesn't want to like spill
the beans. 

978
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:43,240
I don't know, because also I was
going to include this, but it 

979
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:46,960
was wicked long. 
Zendaya did an interview with a 

980
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,280
radio show, and she just talked 
about how she really wants to 

981
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:55,200
keep her personal life private, 
as most celebrities do, and not 

982
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,080
really talk about it. 
So maybe he's just kind of doing

983
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,440
the same thing. 
Yeah. 

984
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,680
And a couple days later, May 
14th, Tom and Zendaya spend 

985
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,240
Mother's Day together in 
Oakland, CA, at Zendaya's 

986
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:09,960
grandmother's house. 
Wow. 

987
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,760
I know that's serious. 
That's something serious because

988
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,040
he has his own mother. 
He could fly back to England to 

989
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,560
be with his mom, you know? 
They might do it on a different 

990
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,760
day. 
Maybe, but still, why would you 

991
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,440
go with your potential friend to
her grandmother's house for 

992
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,960
mother's? 
Day just to your Co star and I I

993
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:35,360
feel like PR relationships, if 
they happen or the only times I 

994
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,720
have heard of them happening, 
it's kind of like they just go 

995
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:42,160
to a event with the other person
or maybe they go out to like a 

996
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,080
restaurant or something but I 
don't think you would do things 

997
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,120
like. 
That no. 

998
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,600
And it'd probably be more like 
photographed or something. 

999
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,520
Like they'd post about it if 
they did. 

1000
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:53,480
Yeah. 
I don't know how people know 

1001
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,800
that they did that, but they 
did. 

1002
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:57,680
And some, but it wasn't really 
like that public. 

1003
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,640
June 5th, an article was 
published by Interview magazine 

1004
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,440
in which Zendaya interviewed 
Tom. 

1005
00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:05,280
Most of it isn't that 
interesting. 

1006
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,760
They didn't really reveal much 
except for the short exchange, 

1007
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,760
which I thought was cute. 
Zendaya said we never had this 

1008
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,400
in depth of a conversation when 
we were on set. 

1009
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:16,760
And Tom said ever. 
And she says our conversations 

1010
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,760
are and then she kind of trails 
off and Tom finishes childish. 

1011
00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:22,360
And I thought that was kind of 
cute. 

1012
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,080
It just kind of encapsulates 
them. 

1013
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,120
I feel like they're very silly. 
Mm hmm. 

1014
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:31,160
And June 15th while in London, 
there's a lot of cute photos 

1015
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,080
that are taken of them at the 
Spider Man homecoming photo 

1016
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,280
call, whatever that is, that 
kept coming up. 

1017
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,720
I'm like, what is this photo 
call? 

1018
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,720
It's kind of like a faux red 
carpet event. 

1019
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,040
They're not there for her 
premiere or anything. 

1020
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:48,200
And you can look at the photos I
sent, just some cute photos of 

1021
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,080
them. 
She's very stylish, but she's 

1022
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,520
wearing a really ugly outfit in 
these pictures. 

1023
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,920
I'm just going to say it's like 
a black. 

1024
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,760
It's a yellow and black I think.
It's kind of cute. 

1025
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,480
Shirt with a white belt and then
like a blue Tutu underneath. 

1026
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,680
I don't think it looks nice. 
And white heels. 

1027
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,240
Yeah, I think it's cute. 
It's like quirky. 

1028
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,960
I get it. 
You don't get it 'cause you're 

1029
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,480
not. 
Fine, maybe this was very 2017, 

1030
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,040
I don't know. 
It's like very 80s. 

1031
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,000
He's just wearing a. 20 tens 
doing yeah. 

1032
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,120
He was just wearing a black polo
and jeans, nothing fancy. 

1033
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,120
Yeah, but you should describe 
their. 

1034
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,280
OK, well, he's doing like the 
Will Smith foes where I think 

1035
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,520
Will Smith did it with Jada, 
where he's like has the hands 

1036
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,800
out and it's like, look at her, 
you know, And then he's looking 

1037
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,080
at her a lot and she's smiling 
and he's smiling and they're. 

1038
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:38,280
Oh yeah, they're. 
Just close together. 

1039
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,280
Like when she's just smiling at 
the crowd, he seems to be just 

1040
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,320
watching her. 
Yeah, very cute. 

1041
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,800
Cute. 
As they do these later folk 

1042
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,280
photo calls, their outfits are 
way better. 

1043
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,680
I don't know what like he's 
wearing more of a suit and she's

1044
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,520
wearing more of like a gown type
of thing. 

1045
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,520
So they're doing it very 
casually for this homecoming. 

1046
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,720
I kind of like that outfit. 
It's so like, bold and quirky, 

1047
00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:03,960
like you would never see her in 
something like that today. 

1048
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,320
Yeah. 
People just dress in like 

1049
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,880
neutrals these days. 
Yeah, I guess so. 

1050
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,360
Well, anyway, someday and Tom 
continue hanging out a lot. 

1051
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,920
They attend a screening of 
Spider Man together wearing 

1052
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,400
matching hoodies. 
They're like matching Spider Man

1053
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,480
hoodies. 
It's not like they go to like a 

1054
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,200
premiere or anything. 
They just go to a random theater

1055
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,440
and see it together. 
And Tom also does a spin class 

1056
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,720
with Zendaya's mom. 
Zendaya didn't do it with them, 

1057
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:34,120
she was just there, like 
watching and clapping them on. 

1058
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,200
I wonder why she didn't do it. 
She didn't want to. 

1059
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,000
She doesn't like to do that sort
of thing, I guess. 

1060
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,320
Yeah. 
In July, people.com reported 

1061
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,080
that Tom and Zendaya were 
dating. 

1062
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,560
But a month later, in August, in
a Variety interview, Zendaya 

1063
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,600
denied the rumor. 
She said we are friends. 

1064
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,480
Then the interviewer asked so 
there's no romance, and she 

1065
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,640
responded very firmly. 
Apparently no. 

1066
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,920
He's a great dude. 
He's literally one of my best 

1067
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:01,480
friends. 
What? 

1068
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,000
This past how many months we've 
been had to do press tours 

1069
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,120
together? 
This past how many months we've 

1070
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,480
had to do press tours together? 
There's very few people that 

1071
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,640
understand what that's like at 
20 years old. 

1072
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,480
I don't like that. 
I know. 

1073
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,560
Why would she say that? 
I don't know. 

1074
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:23,080
Her boyfriend, now I'm doubting.
You're very much like while 

1075
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:28,360
they're dating, I just. 
Don't like that? 

1076
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:31,720
Being like, no, we're just 
friends if they actually. 

1077
00:56:31,720 --> 00:56:34,560
They have an agreement, yeah, 
maybe they had a plan, but I 

1078
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,240
would be upset if my boyfriend 
said we're just friends. 

1079
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:42,800
I will tell you in advance 
because we know that they are 

1080
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,160
official and they eventually 
become official or whatever. 

1081
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,920
But it does seem like from what 
Tom and and Dave spoken about 

1082
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,800
during this time, even though 
she's saying like, yeah, we're 

1083
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,600
just friends, they actually were
dating. 

1084
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,160
OK. 
So she's just saying that even 

1085
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,480
though they actually were and on
September 1st, 1st and day is 

1086
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,160
21st birthday. 
Tom posted pics of the two of 

1087
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,680
them together with the caption, 
happy birthday mate, miss you 

1088
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,080
and I'll have a drink for you. 
And she responded, ha ha ha. 

1089
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,400
Thanks. 
Shoddy heart emoji. 

1090
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,000
Shoddy. 
Yeah. 

1091
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,760
And even still, according to 
them, they both continue to fan 

1092
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,640
the rumors. 
They are consistently spot 

1093
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,320
together, mostly one-on-one in 
New York, LA and London by 

1094
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,320
either fans or paparazzi. 
And going through the timeline, 

1095
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,280
it felt as if pretty much every 
day they were together, like 

1096
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,800
constantly. 
Even on like the small side of 

1097
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,200
the spectrum. 
They were released together 

1098
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,640
multiple times a month. 
It was it was constant. 

1099
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,440
Like I said. 
They also spend Thanksgiving 

1100
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:45,640
together again with Zen's family
and this is part of the family 

1101
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,720
and. 
There's really nothing much of. 

1102
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:53,920
Note to say for the rest of 2017
and most of 2018 until May 8th 

1103
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,040
when Tom posted a photo of 
Zendaya at the Met Gala to his 

1104
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,280
Instagram. 
Like his Instagram, not just his

1105
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,400
Instagram story, the Instagram. 
And this is when she was dressed

1106
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,520
as Joan of Arc, and his caption 
for the photo was all. 

1107
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,800
All hail the Queen killing it, 
mate. 

1108
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,240
Mate. 
Yeah, still has to add that. 

1109
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,160
To some casual, you know, like 
who who? 

1110
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,800
Would do that. 
Who would post? 

1111
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,480
I know just their coworkers, 
their Instagram. 

1112
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,240
Yeah, yeah. 
Or just good friends. 

1113
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,680
Yeah, I don't think he was doing
that for his other friends. 

1114
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:29,080
And the next month in June, the 
2nd Spider Man movie, Far From 

1115
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,160
Home began filming. 
And I only really mention it 

1116
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,760
because other than spending a 
lot of time together on set, the

1117
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,560
second movie was when, spoiler 
alert, their characters 

1118
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,080
Michelle, MJ and Peter Parker 
get together. 

1119
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,920
So not only were they dating in 
real life, but their characters 

1120
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,080
were too on screen. 
Wow, what an experience. 

1121
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,000
I know. 
Must have been so exciting. 

1122
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,720
It must have been. 
And for this. 

1123
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,880
One, I'll kind of get into this.
Later, but they would be like 

1124
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,560
all over Europe for this because
it's far from home. 

1125
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,240
It takes, it's like a goodness 
Spider Man takes Europe type 

1126
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:06,120
thing. 
So they're in. 

1127
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:10,320
Italy Romantic, and they're in 
Paris and they're in the 

1128
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,640
Netherlands. 
They're all amazing. 

1129
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,520
Like who gets to have? 
Experiences like that I know. 

1130
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,000
Wow. 
And on September 1st, this is 

1131
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,960
2018, remember? 
Again, for Zendaya's birthday, 

1132
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,960
Tom posted a photo to Instagram 
of him and Zendaya walking on 

1133
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,800
the street. 
Maybe it's a Pat photo, I don't 

1134
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,840
know. 
And they're walking by a statue 

1135
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,040
of Spider Man and his caption is
me, myself and the birthday 

1136
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,520
girl. 
Happy birthday mate. 

1137
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,840
Keep killing it and paving the 
way for the rest of us. 

1138
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,560
Heart emoji. 
Heart emoji. 

1139
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,320
But still that stupid mate I 
know in there. 

1140
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,240
That's. 
Cute, I know. 

1141
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,480
And later that month, Tom's 
family. 

1142
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,000
Including his grandparents came 
to visit him on the set of 

1143
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,760
Spider Man far from home in 
Italy. 

1144
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,480
And Zendaya hung out with them 
while they were there. 

1145
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,480
And they even all went on a 
group trip to an island near 

1146
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,000
Venice and say Zendaya went with
them. 

1147
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,360
Wow. 
And he could. 

1148
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,080
Yeah. 
So like, why just Zendaya? 

1149
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,760
Like I don't think the rest of 
the cast or his other friends 

1150
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:15,480
from the cast went just Zendaya.
And November 9th, 2018, Tom 

1151
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,680
commissioned supposedly a spray 
paint on canvas portraits of 

1152
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,920
Zendaya's dogs. 
So the person who like did them 

1153
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,640
said they were like what people 
see as Zendaya's dogs. 

1154
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,920
And they're like, oh, 
commissioned by a Tom. 

1155
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,040
OK, but those look like 
Zendaya's dogs and also 

1156
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:35,240
commissioned by a Tom. 
Huh? 

1157
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,080
Is it him? 
That's a sweet gift, I know. 

1158
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,960
And. 
Around this time. 

1159
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,600
So filming for Far From Home 
ended. 

1160
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:46,600
Filming started for Zendaya's 
show Euphoria, and Tom was 

1161
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,280
reportedly there on set multiple
times while she filmed. 

1162
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,920
And then in 2018 again, Tom 
spent another Thanksgiving with 

1163
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,600
Zendaya's family. 
So he's there year after year. 

1164
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,080
Yeah. 
He's really seeing the family. 

1165
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,880
Wow. 
That's sweet. 

1166
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,000
And I don't know. 
When this was tweeted. 

1167
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,840
But someone who worked on the 
movie The Devil All the Time 

1168
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:14,360
with Tom Holland, around March 
2019, they said that during one 

1169
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,320
particular shoot day, they heard
Tom say, guess what, you guys? 

1170
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,880
I get to see my girlfriend this 
weekend. 

1171
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,880
And so this happened around 
early 2019 and in 2019. 

1172
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,040
Guess what you guys? 
And that's another movie. 

1173
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,520
With Robert Pattinson, he just 
keeps going up. 

1174
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,160
It's gonna come up again later 
and again in 2019. 

1175
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,640
They're spotted out together a 
lot too many times to list them 

1176
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,800
all, but just be aware that they
are. 

1177
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,520
They also show support for each 
other via Instagram stories 

1178
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,680
mostly where like on their 
story, they'd be like, Tom's 

1179
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,760
gonna be in this movie or, and 
or someday we'll be like Tom's 

1180
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,360
in this or he's doing this and 
Tom will be like someday is 

1181
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,480
doing this. 
So they're also doing that. 

1182
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,240
So let's be aware. 
Very supportive Jinx. 

1183
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,800
May 9th Tom posted a photo of 
himself to Instagram posing with

1184
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,080
Zendaya and their Spiderman cast
mate Jacob at Disney. 

1185
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,640
And in the photo Tom tags 
Zendaya like on his groin. 

1186
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,920
You know when you have to, like,
put tags? 

1187
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,600
Yeah. 
And Zendaya commented. 

1188
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,760
I'm assuming because you don't 
know how to work Instagram. 

1189
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,720
That's the reasoning behind my 
name placement. 

1190
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,320
Laugh emoji. 
Laugh emoji. 

1191
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,440
Laugh emoji. 
And then Tom repositioned the 

1192
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,440
tag and then added it, the 
caption to say thanks, Zendaya, 

1193
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,080
for making me aware of my 
obvious blunder. 

1194
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,040
Laughing emoji. 
What? 

1195
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,600
He should have kept it. 
It wouldn't be. 

1196
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:44,080
Funny. 
Don't be a coward, just own it. 

1197
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,400
I know, that is so funny. 
I wish. 

1198
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:46,960
He. 
I. 

1199
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:48,520
OK. 
Do you think he did it on 

1200
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,400
purpose or actually wasn't it? 
I don't know, maybe he thought 

1201
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,200
it was. 
Funny and like did it on purpose

1202
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,720
but then forgot and then posted 
it anyway. 

1203
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,840
You know, like oh, would it be 
funny if I did this and showed 

1204
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,160
somebody and then, I don't know,
forgot? 

1205
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:12,080
In 2021, someone tweeted that 
apparently during 2019, a friend

1206
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,400
of theirs, again, this is all 
supposedly. 

1207
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,880
We don't know if this is real. 
A friend of theirs who was a 

1208
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:22,480
songwriter was commissioned to 
write a song by Tom for 

1209
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,320
Zendaya's birthday. 
That's sweet. 

1210
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,880
I know he likes to Commission 
before. 

1211
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,560
We don't know how one-of-a-kind 
gift yeah, real this is, but if 

1212
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,920
it's true, that would. 
Be very cute and sorry. 

1213
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,480
When is her birthday? 
September 1st. 

1214
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,080
It's coming up actually, 
because. 

1215
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,840
Again, Tom made an insta post 
for Zendaya's birthday with a 

1216
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,160
photo of the two of them and the
caption is the birthday girl. 

1217
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,680
Hope you're having an amazing 
day. 

1218
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,960
And then Zendaya commented on 
his post saying thanks. 

1219
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:52,720
Weirdo fist bump emoji, Blue 
heart, 2 cats I know well. 

1220
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,560
Actually. 
I think things are kind of going

1221
01:03:55,600 --> 01:04:00,040
wrong for them because I didn't 
mention this, but from 20 June 

1222
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:04,840
2019 onward, there was actually 
no sightings of Tom and Zendaya 

1223
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,600
together, which is noticeable 
because years previously, like I

1224
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,440
said, they were always together,
like every single day. 

1225
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,440
So this is from June to. 
September. 

1226
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:20,040
They haven't been seen. 
And in November 2019, a waitress

1227
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,440
actually recorded herself 
talking to Zendaya's 

1228
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,280
grandmother. 
I don't know how we know this is

1229
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,000
the grandmother. 
Like, Oh my gosh, it's so shady.

1230
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,920
I know. 
I don't know how you would 

1231
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,000
recognize. 
Zendaya's grandmother, I 

1232
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,800
certainly wouldn't. 
But the grandmother, if we can 

1233
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:39,120
believe that is her, is heard 
saying that Zendaya is dating 

1234
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:43,880
her Euphoria Cat Co star Jacob 
Allordy and that she had been 

1235
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,840
with Tom for a long time, but 
not anymore. 

1236
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,440
No way. 
But OK, this is just we're 

1237
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,080
taking the word of some 
waitress. 

1238
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,040
Yeah, well, it seems. 
Legit because from then on 

1239
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,760
Zendaya was spotted out and 
about with Jacob and in February

1240
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,960
2020 they were spotted kissing 
on the streets of New York City.

1241
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,600
So she was dating Jacob. 
Did she dump Tom for him? 

1242
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,440
I don't know. 
I don't know. 

1243
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,160
We'll, we'll. 
Get into that, but happened. 

1244
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,080
I don't know what happened, but 
it seems like during the summer 

1245
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:21,360
of 2019, I don't know, something
happened and maybe they broke up

1246
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,120
and then she started seeing 
Jacob. 

1247
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,680
Wow. 
Did Jacob date somebody else 

1248
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,440
from the show? 
Euphoria maybe I don't. 

1249
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,320
Watch Euphoria. 
So I'm not really up up in the 

1250
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,080
what's going on? 
I don't either, but I thought he

1251
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,400
dated somebody. 
Else as well. 

1252
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,800
Or maybe I just somehow knew 
about him and Zendaya. 

1253
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,480
I don't know. 
Maybe I was aware Zendaya and. 

1254
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,600
Jacob dated, but I didn't know 
what the timeline was and I 

1255
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,120
didn't know that it seemed like 
her and Tom were already 

1256
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,760
together before then. 
I thought they were kind of 

1257
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,080
after that type of thing. 
I guess not. 

1258
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,560
Man, that's interesting. 
I thought that. 

1259
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,560
This whole relationship was just
going to be like, cute, cute, 

1260
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:07,000
cute, cute, cute, cute. 
So it's, I mean, it's actually 

1261
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,200
kind of relatable and refreshing
to hear that there was some kind

1262
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,280
of a break of some kind. 
Yeah. 

1263
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:13,560
Well, it did seem like they 
were. 

1264
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,080
Still in talks because around 
this time it's dramatic. 

1265
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,120
Tom was shooting the movie 
Uncharted and one of his Co 

1266
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,920
stars Tati Gabrielle, who's 
actually also friends with 

1267
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,760
Zendaya. 
She said in an interview about 

1268
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,920
that time while they were 
shooting that Tom and Zendaya 

1269
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,640
were still in communication, at 
least through text. 

1270
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,760
What she said exactly was Tom 
was texting her while filming, 

1271
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,880
so there was some communication 
so dramatic, but they. 

1272
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,880
Weren't seeing one another it 
seemed like at. 

1273
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,640
Least. 
And in August 2020, Zendaya 

1274
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,680
liked one of Tom's insta posts 
for the first time since January

1275
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,240
2020. 
OK, you didn't mention that. 

1276
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:53,400
That's very. 
Talented. 

1277
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,680
I know, isn't it? 
So if you. 

1278
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,040
She stopped liking Wait, wait, 
you said 2020? 

1279
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,200
Yeah. 
So now I'm in 20. 20 So it was 

1280
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,720
November. 20/19 with the 
waitress thing, Yeah, but then 

1281
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:07,440
February 21/20/20 was when she 
was kissing Jacob. 

1282
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:09,840
OK. 
And then when did? 

1283
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,760
She like his post August so 
between. 

1284
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,960
January and August, she wasn't 
liking his photos. 

1285
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:20,920
She was trying to get distance. 
This is crazy and. 

1286
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,080
Actually. 
It's over there, I know. 

1287
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:24,480
And Tom? 
Actually. 

1288
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:29,520
Stopped liking her photos in 
April 2020, but then after she 

1289
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,360
liked his photo he started 
liking her photos. 

1290
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,520
Oh my gosh, it's so relatable. 
It's crazy and I didn't mention 

1291
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,400
this. 
Before, but fans also noticed 

1292
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:45,360
that the last time Zendaya liked
any of Tom's siblings posts were

1293
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:50,000
June and July of 2019, so people
think that may have been when 

1294
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,040
they maybe broke up. 
Oh my God. 

1295
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,480
Especially since that was the 
last time they were. 

1296
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,480
Spotted together. 
Was June and July so it makes 

1297
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,600
sense. 
It's crazy that something as 

1298
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,040
frivolous. 
Seeming as liking pictures can 

1299
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,920
tell you so much. 
You really can't. 

1300
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,000
It really can. 
It really can't 'cause if you do

1301
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,000
break up with someone. 
You're like, I'm not gonna 

1302
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,560
interact with them at all. 
I'm not gonna like their photos.

1303
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,600
But then when you start kind of 
reconciling, you're like, that's

1304
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,840
a, that's a move. 
That's a big move. 

1305
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,520
Yes, that is a move, yeah. 
And it doesn't necessarily. 

1306
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,240
Mean. 
Always like, oh, I'm still 

1307
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:24,040
interested in that. 
We're getting back together. 

1308
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,760
It just means maybe like we're 
cool now, whatever. 

1309
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,560
Well then. 
In October, so about two months 

1310
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:34,200
after they started liking each 
other's posts again, the filming

1311
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,279
began for the third Spider Man 
film. 

1312
01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:39,960
So now they're back on set. 
And in November, so a month into

1313
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,960
filming, then Day and Tom were 
spotted for the first time 

1314
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,120
together in over a year. 
That's great. 

1315
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,399
I mean, maybe they have. 
Seen each other, but that's 

1316
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:52,560
really intense to go a whole 
year without seeing I know 

1317
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:55,080
possibly the love. 
Of your life. 

1318
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,120
This time, though, they. 
Weren't one-on-one. 

1319
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,240
They were with a group, which is
probably a way of easing into 

1320
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,200
it. 
But again, this is like, I would

1321
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,000
kind of hate that I know, but. 
This is the first time. 

1322
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,520
That they're like really 
reconnecting. 

1323
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,760
I wouldn't want to reconnect 
with someone in front of other. 

1324
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,720
People, you know, people would 
probably be talking about it. 

1325
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,240
They'd be like in. 
A corner like Oh my God look at 

1326
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,560
heck, I would feel like I can't 
react. 

1327
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,960
Authentically, you know, I know.
What did you whisper? 

1328
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,319
I whispered like Oh my God, look
at. 

1329
01:09:21,319 --> 01:09:25,319
Tom and Santeo, like, yeah, 
yeah, like, look at them. 

1330
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:27,319
I don't know. 
Yeah, people would be awkward, 

1331
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:28,200
too. 
I feel like. 

1332
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,040
I don't know. 
But also later that month, the 

1333
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,840
end of November, Tom spent 
Thanksgiving again with the day 

1334
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,439
and her family, so things seem 
good. 

1335
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,680
So he didn't spend Thanksgiving 
with them in 2019. 

1336
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,640
No, Tom, because they were on 
the. 

1337
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,720
Oh, now that it's the. 
Pandemic he does, yes. 

1338
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:51,920
And. 
That's even more important 

1339
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:58,120
because it's the pandemic yes so
things still went pretty good 

1340
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,560
they seem better are they back 
to dating I don't know are they 

1341
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:07,040
just friends Well in 2021 
February 15th, Tom called 

1342
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:11,080
Zendaya one of his best friends 
in an interview nice and a 

1343
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,720
couple days later for. 
Backstage. 

1344
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,720
Magazine Tom has asked if he has
any acting mentors and Tom says 

1345
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,880
yes, and first says that is 
Robert Downey Junior. 

1346
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,600
But then he said the second 
person would probably be 

1347
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,200
Zendaya. 
When we started shooting the 

1348
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,080
first Spider Man film, she and I
became best mates. 

1349
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,600
She was so helpful in the 
process of my life changing 

1350
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,360
because not only are you making 
big films and you're traveling 

1351
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,120
the world, but everyone starts 
to know who you are and you have

1352
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,200
to behave differently. 
You have a responsibility to 

1353
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,640
kind of uphold this idea of 
being a role model to young 

1354
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,280
kids, and arguably she's the 
best at that. 

1355
01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:44,240
You can't really find anything 
against Zendaya. 

1356
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,880
She's kind of like the perfect 
person. 

1357
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,800
It was so wonderful to have 
someone unlike her in my corner 

1358
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,800
to help me grow through the that
process. 

1359
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,720
And yes, I've made mistakes. 
I went through her phase when I 

1360
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,880
had where I hated taking 
pictures with people and I was 

1361
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,760
like, no, no, no, leave me 
alone. 

1362
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,640
She really taught me she was 
like, that would probably stress

1363
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,240
you out more than saying yes and
being nice about it. 

1364
01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:07,560
She was so right and made that 
whole process so much nicer. 

1365
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,040
Wow, that's sweet. 
I know you don't hear. 

1366
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:11,840
That a lot. 
Well, a couple days. 

1367
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,840
After that, Tom. 
Was doing a lot of press during 

1368
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,160
this time. 
I don't know if it was for the 

1369
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,960
devil all the time or what, but 
he was asked by an interview if 

1370
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:23,320
Zendaya was back by his side. 
And by the way, the interviewer 

1371
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,520
said it and made it seem like, 
oh, you're back to shooting 

1372
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,480
Spider man and Zendaya's there 
too type of thing, you know? 

1373
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,440
But Tom took it in a whole other
way and he responded by saying 

1374
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:35,800
absolutely. 
And I will add right away that 

1375
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,240
Zendaya is just a friend, 
nothing more. 

1376
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:41,280
We have a bomb that goes back 
several years and we make each 

1377
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,640
other laugh on set. 
It's nice to have friends like 

1378
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,800
her without any ambiguity. 
The answer to a question I 

1379
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:48,440
never. 
Know. 

1380
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,320
He was just ready for it though.
Like. 

1381
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:54,760
No, we're not. 
Dating. 

1382
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,520
We're just friends. 
Had to get that in there. 

1383
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,320
OK. 
It also seems like Thomas doing 

1384
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,720
press for the movie Cherry. 
I forgot about that. 

1385
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,040
But anyway. 
So he continued doing press for 

1386
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:07,520
it, and he was asked if his 
heart had ever been broken. 

1387
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,440
I know we don't know each other 
well, but I want to get just a 

1388
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:14,920
little personal because this is 
such an amazing love story and 

1389
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,440
it's so heartbreaking on so many
levels. 

1390
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:21,640
And clearly he joins the Army to
cope with loss and heartbreak. 

1391
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,880
What is the most impulsive thing
you've ever done to cope with 

1392
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:26,760
heartbreak? 
Or has your heart ever been 

1393
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,200
broken? 
Tom Holland, Yes. 

1394
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,880
My heart is very. 
Very well and truly been broken.

1395
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:41,320
Sort of broke it myself. 
Yeah. 

1396
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,040
I'm. 
Not sure if I'm going to talk 

1397
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,400
about the impulses. 
Of what? 

1398
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,920
I'm not going to talk about 
that, but I will say that I have

1399
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,320
been heartbroken and it was my 
fault. 

1400
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:58,160
I guess kind of it's his fault. 
I guess so seems what does this 

1401
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,120
mean? 
I don't know. 

1402
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,760
Oh my goodness, I know so. 
Did he end the relationship? 

1403
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,640
Previously, like why? 
Why did he end it? 

1404
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,560
I don't know. 
I'm assuming it's about Sunday. 

1405
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,400
It has. 
To hope it's not about like 

1406
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,960
someone from high school. 
I don't know. 

1407
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,360
He was really cagey talking 
about it if it was someone from 

1408
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:20,760
high school. 
I think he would have been more 

1409
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,240
open about it. 
You're right, You're right. 

1410
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:24,520
Like I don't want to talk about 
it. 

1411
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,800
That break up from Stephanie. 
In like 10th grade really hurt 

1412
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:29,840
me. 
Yeah. 

1413
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,640
I wonder, did he end it? 
And then she. 

1414
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,000
Got with Jacob Blarty and he was
like fuck yeah What? 

1415
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,920
Maybe. 
Maybe that was very real of him 

1416
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,120
though, even if he didn't open 
up. 

1417
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,920
That much he did a little bit, 
and I appreciate that. 

1418
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:48,080
Very vulnerable. 
Yeah, well, over the next couple

1419
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,800
months, Tom did. 
More press interviews and he 

1420
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,800
referenced Zendaya lot and he 
also calls her one of his best 

1421
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,800
friends. 
And then June 1st, 2021, Zendaya

1422
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,240
posted a photo of Tom to her 
Instagram story and captioned it

1423
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:07,160
with Pretty glad you were born. 
Happy birthday at Tom Holland. 

1424
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:14,560
Still, there's a distance, an 
air of casualness, but that's 

1425
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,040
sweet. 
Well, later that month, Tom was 

1426
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,240
spotted. 
On the Euphoria set multiple 

1427
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,440
times. 
I don't know how he would be 

1428
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:24,640
there though if like Jacob was 
there, I don't know. 

1429
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,640
Yeah, crazy that would be, I 
feel. 

1430
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,920
Like that would feel very 
competitive or I know, or maybe 

1431
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:36,520
they're chill, but also Jacob 
Mallardy is known for being 

1432
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:41,720
quite a hunk, so it's just a 
fact, so. 

1433
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,400
That would be tough I. 
Know he's this wicked tall dude.

1434
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,880
Too. 
Oh yeah, he's well, actually, I 

1435
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,760
didn't know. 
His height, but I assumed he was

1436
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,520
tall. 
He seemed tall in the. 

1437
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,520
Priscilla. 
He's 6. 5 OH. 

1438
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,360
My God, he's 65, so he's like. 
Almost a fit foot dollar. 

1439
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,720
I don't think, Tom. 
Is that insecure? 

1440
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,200
About his height, but I think 
seeing Zendaya with a wicked 

1441
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,840
tall dude could make him feel 
kind of insecure just because 

1442
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:12,280
of, you know, stereotypes. 
Yeah, you know, like. 

1443
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:13,920
Yeah, and they're supposed to 
be. 

1444
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,600
Like, so strong and even though 
it's not really necessary for 

1445
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:22,880
our modern lives, but, like, 
whoever could best fend off a 

1446
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:28,440
bear is the most attractive guy.
So that's the stereotype. 

1447
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,120
It's not. 
If anybody's listening, like. 

1448
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,440
And you don't, you're not like 
Jacob Lordy's. 

1449
01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:36,560
But that's OK. 
Everyone knows. 

1450
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,960
I mean, Timothy, tell me is 
tall, actually, but it's more my

1451
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:41,720
type. 
Yeah. 

1452
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,200
How tall is he? 
Like 6. 

1453
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,840
Foot He is actually tall, but he
looks like. 

1454
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,960
He'd be short. 
I think he's hunching a lot 

1455
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,000
though. 
I don't know, I think sometimes 

1456
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,360
he hunches to make himself look 
shorter. 

1457
01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:57,520
He's just thin. 
Has a very young looking face. 

1458
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,680
Anyway, why did I bring up Tim 
and Dijon me again? 

1459
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,800
You just put that out. 
I would like to talk about him. 

1460
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,640
Someday you could do him and 
Lily Rose. 

1461
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,600
Depp maybe. 
Maybe Kylie Jenner, although I 

1462
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:12,760
don't know how much. 
Information. 

1463
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,560
There is there. 
They're cited like once every 

1464
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,480
six months. 
They're a little too much right 

1465
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:19,720
now. 
I do like them, I think they're 

1466
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,880
cute, but I don't know if 
anybody needs an episode with 

1467
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,520
them because I feel like we're 
seeing enough. 

1468
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,720
Yeah, maybe if they break up, 
you know, if. 

1469
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:28,360
I guess we'll see. 
Maybe. 

1470
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,280
Lily Rose Depp. 
I used to think that was a fake 

1471
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:31,320
relation. 
Me too. 

1472
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,280
So I'm not dying. 
To come. 

1473
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,240
Now, but I don't really care 
about Lily. 

1474
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,880
I mean, I saw her Nosferatu. 
And I thought she was good, but 

1475
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:45,640
yeah. 
Well, anyway, July 2nd, 2021, 

1476
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,520
Tomdiah, people probably know 
where I'm going with this. 

1477
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:52,120
You're probably freaking out 
because Tommens and Daya were 

1478
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:58,960
photographed and filmed kissing 
in his car, thus confirming that

1479
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,880
they were dating. 
And according to the paparazzo 

1480
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,080
who filmed and took photos of 
this, they apparently kissed at 

1481
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,760
every stoplight for at least 
three miles. 

1482
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:08,960
That's crazy. 
I know. 

1483
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,600
And you can see footage of. 
This. 

1484
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:16,160
Oh my goodness, he's like. 
Grabbing her face or just 

1485
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:17,840
touching her face, I. 
Guess grabbing a little. 

1486
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,800
Dramatic, really keen under her 
chin. 

1487
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:26,920
Tom and Z kissing finally. 
Oh my. 

1488
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,880
Gosh. 
Wait, so they're in traffic? 

1489
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,240
Yeah, it's funny. 
He like touches up his. 

1490
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,520
Hair. 
OK, then they're like bobbing 

1491
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,160
their heads to music. 
Yeah, that's exciting. 

1492
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,640
Yeah. 
So the world stood. 

1493
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:45,800
Still, because they were 
confirmed Tom and Zendaya dating

1494
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:51,240
together, it's official kissing.
Yes, wow. 

1495
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:53,920
And then throughout. 
The rest of the summer. 

1496
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,560
They were spotted on multiple 
dates together, mostly in 

1497
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,160
California, and then September 
1st again. 

1498
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:04,360
Huge date for the Tom Dyer fans.
For Zendaya's birthday, Tom 

1499
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:08,880
posted a photo of the two of 
them in iconic infamous picture 

1500
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,880
with the caption My MJ have the 
happiest of birthdays. 

1501
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:18,040
Give me a call when you're up 
XXX and you can see the photo #9

1502
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,560
they're just bearing it all now.
I know. 

1503
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:21,840
They're together. 
Oh. 

1504
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,240
My gosh. 
So cute. 

1505
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:29,800
Her head is resting on his 
shoulder as she's taking the 

1506
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:34,040
picture from behind. 
Oh, it's a film picture. 

1507
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:35,640
Yeah. 
How come you had to show me this

1508
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,080
on Tumblr? 
Did he, like, delete it? 

1509
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:41,520
No, I just sometimes. 
It's hard to share Instagram. 

1510
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,760
Thanks. 
So I just want Tumblr. 

1511
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,600
I don't know, that would be so 
sad. 

1512
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,520
It is cool, it's exciting to 
see. 

1513
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:54,800
Them together because and 
especially kissing. 

1514
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,280
I'm sorry if it makes me sound 
like a perv, but because 

1515
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:04,280
something about them does seem 
so like clean and professional 

1516
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,360
and reserved, even though they 
can be silly. 

1517
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,560
Yeah, such. 
It's like seeing a teacher 

1518
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,760
outside of school, you know, 
it's like, whoa, it's just weird

1519
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:13,560
to see them actually kissing. 
I know. 

1520
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,880
So it's like, Oh my God, 
they're. 

1521
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:19,280
Actually together, Oh my God. 
And then exciting. 

1522
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:25,080
And they commented on the post 
saying calling now cute. 

1523
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,880
People don't communicate over. 
Social media as much. 

1524
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,080
I mean, that was pretty late 
actually. 

1525
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,400
When was that? 
2020? 

1526
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:37,560
That was 2021. 
I would say at that point people

1527
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,120
actually did not. 
Do it no more, but definitely a 

1528
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,080
lot. 
In like 2010 you would write on 

1529
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,920
each other's walls. 
And tweet at each other. 

1530
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,800
Yeah, you like share private? 
Information publicly for some 

1531
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,840
reason you'd like TV would 
always be like so and. 

1532
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,520
So call me. 
I don't know. 

1533
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,880
Yeah, call me. 
Why don't you just? 

1534
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,120
Call I guess I didn't answer the
phone but like I guess just wait

1535
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,680
out of. 
Message Why are you like, so 

1536
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,040
desperate? 
I remember that came up a lot. 

1537
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:10,040
In the Harry and Louie episode, 
because this was the early 2000 

1538
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:14,440
tens and they would, yeah, they 
would do stuff like that for 

1539
01:20:14,440 --> 01:20:16,320
everybody to see. 
Yeah, literally. 

1540
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:18,720
Really was the. 
Wild West of the IT. 

1541
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,640
Was I think we still are 
somewhat in the Wild West. 

1542
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:22,760
I don't know what's gonna 
happen. 

1543
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,560
I don't know. 
It's gonna be like, damn. 

1544
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:26,720
What do you mean just no 
Internet? 

1545
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:27,560
No. 
Internet. 

1546
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:28,520
I don't know. 
I know. 

1547
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,480
Maybe. 
Well, speaking. 

1548
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:34,600
Of Dune. 
October 18th, Tom posted a photo

1549
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,520
to his Instagram of Zendaya at 
the Dune Part 1 premiere and he 

1550
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,200
captioned it. 
Dune hard eyes emoji. 

1551
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,080
Because Zendaya's in Dune, yeah.
But also though, yeah, because 

1552
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,400
the photo. 
Was just of her. 

1553
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,360
It's not like it was like the 
poster or anything. 

1554
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,360
So yeah, because she's in it. 
I didn't mention it, but she's 

1555
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:52,280
in it. 
Oh my gosh. 

1556
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,200
It all ties together because his
rival. 

1557
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:58,360
Timmy plays her. 
I know who's actually easy A. 

1558
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:02,480
Couple days later for Dune Press
Sunday and Timmy are made to 

1559
01:21:02,480 --> 01:21:04,000
answer questions about one 
another. 

1560
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,640
And one of the questions is who 
is the other's biggest celebrity

1561
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,400
crush? 
And Timmy says easy, Tom Holland

1562
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,280
cute. 
And she's like, yeah, I'm sorry 

1563
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:15,920
to keep talking. 
About what? 

1564
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,280
But do you remember? 
I feel like there was a time 

1565
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,640
where it almost seemed like they
were trying to the press was 

1566
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,680
trying to make it seem like 
there was something going on 

1567
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:28,200
between Zendaya and oh for sure 
there was. 

1568
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,880
There was like there were 
pictures of them on the 

1569
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,320
sidewalk. 
With like coffees or something. 

1570
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,360
I think it was around. 
It was very brief. 

1571
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:37,640
Because. 
She had just been with like. 

1572
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,680
Jacob and no one. 
And I think people were 

1573
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,160
obviously like they saw the 
kissing stuff and they had to 

1574
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:47,360
have thought she with with Tom, 
but maybe this was while she was

1575
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,480
filming Dune before that. 
So people thought, oh, maybe 

1576
01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:53,000
she's not with Jacob. 
She's not with Tom before she's 

1577
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,320
with Timmy. 
Maybe. 

1578
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,560
But it seems like obviously that
one nowhere. 

1579
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:58,680
I don't think they were 
together. 

1580
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:03,200
So yeah, weird. 
I I wonder, I know if Timothy 

1581
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,960
Shamley has had a couple PR 
things. 

1582
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:09,680
I could believe it. 
I still love him but it. 

1583
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,120
Was kind of sketchy. 
Well, anyway, November 11th. 

1584
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,240
Tom posted a photo of Zendaya 
from the CFDA awards to his 

1585
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:18,960
Instagram. 
Always to his Instagram, never 

1586
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,040
even to his stories. 
I don't know if he just doesn't 

1587
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,720
know how to use stories or what,
but he he posed with the 

1588
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:28,480
caption. 
Nah, stop it heart eyes emoji. 

1589
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,440
An incredible achievement for 
the most incredible person. 

1590
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,520
Congrats at Zendaya and luxury 
law. 

1591
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:36,600
You guys deserve every bit of 
this. 

1592
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:39,480
Well, she won an award I think 
that deserves. 

1593
01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:42,240
To be a permanent poet, I guess.
So, yeah. 

1594
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,800
It's just funny that he's like. 
No, stop it. 

1595
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,440
I don't know. 
It's cute. 

1596
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,160
It is cute throughout that 
month, Tom. 

1597
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,880
Was on the. 
Euphoria set a lot, so he keeps 

1598
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,240
visiting her. 
And that same month again, 

1599
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,120
November, Tom was interviewed by
the magazine Total Film. 

1600
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,600
And he said in the article, I'm 
very happy. 

1601
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:05,720
I'm very happy and in love. 
I know dropped. 

1602
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,960
The L word my. 
Gosh, no, that's really cute. 

1603
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:11,440
Yeah, very. 
Open. 

1604
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,000
I feel like that. 
Wasn't even necessary. 

1605
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,480
To say people I feel like think 
they're very private. 

1606
01:23:17,480 --> 01:23:19,600
Tom and Zendaya doing research 
for them. 

1607
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,720
They are not. 
They are very public. 

1608
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,720
If anything, I feel like they're
always talking about each other.

1609
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:26,680
Seems like it. 
Yeah, even like. 

1610
01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:30,160
Oh, who's your role model in 
acting? 

1611
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,160
He didn't have to say. 
I know. 

1612
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,760
Yeah. 
And I think. 

1613
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:35,960
By any means I know. 
And I was kind of nervous. 

1614
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,320
Because I said there was that 
earlier. 

1615
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,840
Interview where Sunday was like,
I keep things private, but maybe

1616
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,360
it's because she's with Tom and 
she's just so happy. 

1617
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,040
She just wants to talk about him
or something. 

1618
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,200
But she does not follow that 
anymore, especially in the later

1619
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,400
years. 
Like she is not private about it

1620
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,680
at all, being with Tom, which is
great. 

1621
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,200
I appreciate that as a normal 
person. 

1622
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,000
Like I want all the deets. 
Tell me about how much you love 

1623
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,240
your partner. 
I don't know. 

1624
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:03,880
I'd rather you do that than be 
very coy and cagey and I don't 

1625
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,480
know, you know? 
And they're both in showbiz. 

1626
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:08,840
Yeah, I feel. 
Like I, I could understand if 

1627
01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:13,240
your spouse or your partner 
isn't famous, like I would 

1628
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,600
almost feel kind of weird or 
feel bad for them. 

1629
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,600
Like, sorry, I talk about you 
and like all these people know 

1630
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:22,440
you and, you know, it's kind of 
weird, but they're both in the 

1631
01:24:22,440 --> 01:24:23,880
same industry. 
Like I think they would. 

1632
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,560
They get it, you know? 
Yeah, Well, Tom kind of talks 

1633
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,880
about privacy. 
In the GQ magazine, that is 

1634
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,520
around the same time, he's asked
about his relationship and he 

1635
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:37,440
says one of the downsides of our
fame is that privacy isn't 

1636
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:40,160
really in our control anymore. 
In a moment that you think is 

1637
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,920
between two people that love 
each other very much is now a 

1638
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:44,880
moment that is shared with the 
entire world. 

1639
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,880
I've always been really adamant 
to keep my private life private.

1640
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,120
I don't think really anyway, 
because he shares so much my 

1641
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:54,160
life with the world anyway. 
We sort of felt robbed of our 

1642
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,120
privacy. 
And the interviewer, Oliver 

1643
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,360
Franklin Wallace asked. 
You weren't ready to talk about 

1644
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:00,920
it. 
And, and, and Tom responded. 

1645
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,000
I don't think it's about not 
being ready. 

1646
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,920
It's just that we don't want to.
It's not a conversation that I 

1647
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,120
can have without her. 
You know, I respect her too much

1648
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,320
to say this isn't my story. 
It's our story and we'll talk 

1649
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,360
about it when we were ready to 
talk about it together. 

1650
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,280
And then the interviewer, I 
guess, reached out to Zendaya 

1651
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,200
and he asked her a similar 
question and she said it was 

1652
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,160
quite strange and weird and 
confusing and invasive, you 

1653
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,960
know, talking about the Pat 
video of them kissing being 

1654
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,560
leaked. 
And she said the equal sentiment

1655
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,240
we both share is that when you 
really love and care about 

1656
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,880
somebody, some moments or things
you wish were your own. 

1657
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,040
I think loving someone is a 
sacred thing and a special thing

1658
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,600
and something that you want to 
deal with and go through and 

1659
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,800
experience and enjoy amongst the
two people that love each other.

1660
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,760
So I get what they're saying, 
but they're also being very 

1661
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,160
like, we love each other, like 
shouting around the rooftops, 

1662
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,800
you know, like, they're both 
saying so much while also saying

1663
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:55,760
so much about wanting to be 
private. 

1664
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,240
I almost thought you were going 
to say I mean this. 

1665
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,400
Would be ridiculous, but the 
interviewer reached out to 

1666
01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:04,400
Zendaya and said Tom's. 
I didn't feel comfortable 

1667
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,720
talking about it without 
discussing it with you first, so

1668
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,080
I'm just going to check with 
you. 

1669
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:09,680
Well, I think that was part of 
it. 

1670
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:14,600
Yeah, because he was like, I 
won't talk about it without her 

1671
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,320
consent or whatever. 
So he's like, OK, I'll just 

1672
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,040
reach out to Zendaya and see 
what she has to say. 

1673
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:24,720
Well anyway, so they do a Spider
Man No Way Home photo call again

1674
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,440
in London on December 5th. 
And they pose together on the 

1675
01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:29,400
red carpet and they look very 
cute. 

1676
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,880
And they also do an interview at
this photo call and we get to 

1677
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,880
hear them say both nice things 
about each other and their 

1678
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:42,600
relationship. 
There she. 

1679
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:47,080
Is looking beautiful. 
As ever. 

1680
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,240
Yeah, absolutely. 
Is that really his voice? 

1681
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,280
Yeah, I guess. 
He has a raspy voice that. 

1682
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:55,080
Day or something? 
It sounds so raspy. 

1683
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,800
He also sounds like a cockney 
chimney. 

1684
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,400
Sweep or something, that accent.
But he does. 

1685
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,800
Have AI feel like he does sound 
like he's a cold. 

1686
01:27:04,480 --> 01:27:05,960
I feel like he didn't sound like
that before. 

1687
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:15,920
OK, OK, very wise. 
She's like. 

1688
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,960
An owl. 
The wise owl. 

1689
01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:21,240
Yeah, I guess. 
You know, Listen, I have an old.

1690
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:26,040
Soul always have people call me 
grandma and I will take that the

1691
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,120
biggest way is just 
companionship, you know like. 

1692
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,400
Two friends coming together, 
like experiencing this world, 

1693
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,640
going through the same problems 
at the same times. 

1694
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,720
Having a shoulder to cry on has 
been a huge thing for the pair 

1695
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,240
of us. 
And with Jacob as well, you 

1696
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:43,000
know, we really are a family 
and, you know, becoming famous 

1697
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,560
at the age of 19. 
But this is a different kind of 

1698
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,080
fame. 
You know, there's there's not a 

1699
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,520
corner of the world that 
Spiderman hasn't touched. 

1700
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:51,560
So, you know, it's a lot to take
in. 

1701
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,280
So it's really nice for me to 
have, you know, a family to 

1702
01:27:55,280 --> 01:28:00,240
share that with. 
Most special parts of all of 

1703
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,600
this is the fact that I got to 
meet Tom Mullins. 

1704
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:09,240
So I'm incredibly forever 
grateful to spider man for for 

1705
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:13,080
that. 
And he's obviously very talented

1706
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,880
and a lovely person. 
And I couldn't imagine anyone 

1707
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:20,080
else being our spider Man 
because he deserves it, but he's

1708
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:24,400
also really great at it. 
So no, I I mean, being able to 

1709
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,080
share this, to grow up beside 
each other has been an awesome 

1710
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,400
nice. 
Yeah, very cute. 

1711
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:32,960
Yes, they were being 
photographed. 

1712
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:38,520
By so many people. 
I never understand how actors, I

1713
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,760
guess it's part of the job, but 
I mean, even singer, I don't 

1714
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,000
know how they're so good at just
posing. 

1715
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,280
I'm a horrible poser. 
I could. 

1716
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:47,920
Never do that. 
This is the. 

1717
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,800
Straight thing yeah, it must be 
blinding too with all the 

1718
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,120
flashes I. 
Don't know how they do it, no. 

1719
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:58,200
Very sweet though, again. 
She didn't have to say that, but

1720
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,880
she said one of the best things 
about the whole experience was 

1721
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:03,200
meeting Tom. 
I know. 

1722
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,880
And like, she's thankful. 
For this franchise because she 

1723
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,120
got to meet him. 
Yeah, amazing, cute, I know. 

1724
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,080
Well, for the remainder of the 
year, Sunday and Tom continued 

1725
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,840
to do press for Spiderman No Way
Home, which is the third one, in

1726
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,080
case you guys don't know. 
And there's a lot of cute 

1727
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:19,920
moments throughout their 
interviews that I recommend you 

1728
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,480
all check out if you're 
interested. 

1729
01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:23,920
I especially recommend the 
SiriusXM interview. 

1730
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,040
I would have had it here, but 
there's a lot of visual to it 

1731
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,840
and not really audio. 
So it's really translate well to

1732
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,080
a podcast. 
Yeah. 

1733
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,320
I also feel like I've added so 
many clips so far, so you 

1734
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,400
shouldn't add more. 
If I did Add all the cute 

1735
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,320
things, this episode would be 
like 10 hours long, so I need to

1736
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,720
resist. 
But Speaking of cute clips, I 

1737
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:46,280
have another one. 
OK, December 13th at the No Way 

1738
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,640
Home premiere, Tom was asked 
about Zendaya and this was his 

1739
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,680
response. 
So this is number 11. 

1740
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,080
How incredible is it to be 
sharing this? 

1741
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:58,640
Craziness with your Co star. 
With. 

1742
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,480
Zendaya. 
I mean, amazing. 

1743
01:30:00,480 --> 01:30:01,560
I know. 
She just rocked. 

1744
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,200
Up now and I'm trying to see if 
I can see her. 

1745
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,720
I haven't seen her yet, but 
she's one of the most incredible

1746
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,400
people I've ever met and and and
I love it a bit. 

1747
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:09,960
So to be here tonight is 
amazing. 

1748
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,920
I'm delighted to share it with 
her and my cast and my family. 

1749
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:17,640
So I honestly can't wait. 
Yeah, so just cute lover. 

1750
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:21,720
To bits and then a few days 
later on December 15th an 

1751
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,200
interview with Tom and Zendaya 
was released and this was in 

1752
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,800
France that they did the 
interview and one of the 

1753
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:30,760
questions they were asked was 
what did you steal from set and 

1754
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,600
Tom's answer was very cute and 
this is only like a few seconds 

1755
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:37,000
so this is number 12 steal from 
set you haul that's. 

1756
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,360
Good. 
That's it. 

1757
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,200
It's like 4 seconds. 
Yeah, that's why he says quick 

1758
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,480
that. 
Same day, Zendaya posted two 

1759
01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:49,000
photos to Instagram, one of him 
dressed as spider man on set Tom

1760
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,840
and one of Tom dressed as spider
man as a kid and the caption of 

1761
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,960
her post was my Spider Man. 
I'm so proud of you. 

1762
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,400
Some things never change and 
that's a good thing. 

1763
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,640
Heart emoji and then my. 
Spider Man, Yeah. 

1764
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:04,480
And. 
Then Christmas 2020. 

1765
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:07,040
One Tom spent it with Zendaya's 
family. 

1766
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,880
Wow, it's been years at this 
point. 

1767
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,880
I. 
Know and early 20. 22 Thomas and

1768
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,360
they were spotted out together a
lot as usual. 

1769
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:21,160
They were out in LA, New York, 
Rome, Boston, they were seen at 

1770
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,440
Broadway plays, basketball 
games, various eateries and 

1771
01:31:24,440 --> 01:31:25,720
restaurants. 
They were everywhere. 

1772
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,520
And on June 1st for Tom's 
birthdays. 

1773
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,880
And Daya posted a photo of the 
two of them to Instagram with 

1774
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,760
the caption happiest of 
birthdays. 

1775
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:35,200
The one who makes me the 
happiest heart emoji. 

1776
01:31:35,480 --> 01:31:39,440
And then Tom commented 3 heart 
emojis back and you can see the 

1777
01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:45,720
post that's #13 wow, that looks 
like a professional. 

1778
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,480
Couples phone. 
I know it's black and white and 

1779
01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:50,560
he's hugging. 
Her from behind, it's kind of a 

1780
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:54,760
close up and she's looking to 
the side with her head pressed 

1781
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:58,000
against his and he's looking at 
beautiful friends. 

1782
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,040
They're very happy and smiling. 
They're in focus, but the 

1783
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,880
background. 
Is yeah out of focus so it's 

1784
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,560
very you know professional 
looking or maybe just a 

1785
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,360
photographer friend took it I 
don't know yeah that's pretty 

1786
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,120
legit yeah and this forget why 
they still. 

1787
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,200
They still kind of. 
Talk about each other in a very 

1788
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,800
casual way, though I don't know 
why they're so uncomfortable. 

1789
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,960
What do you mean? 
Even saying like lover to bits 

1790
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:21,560
like that sounds kind of casual 
to me. 

1791
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,880
Yeah, I don't know, but. 
They are together. 

1792
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,880
Maybe that's just their way. 
Maybe that's also British thing,

1793
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,040
I don't know. 
But this post that she made for 

1794
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:34,920
him for his birthday was, is 
actually the 20th most liked 

1795
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:38,080
Instagram post to date of all 
time of all time. 

1796
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,640
If you don't count all the 
football related ones, it's the 

1797
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:45,120
sixth most. 
OK, I say that because actually 

1798
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,640
if you go in Wikipedia, they 
list all the top posts and then 

1799
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,880
they have another list that's 
without all the best, the 

1800
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:54,920
football related ones. 
So Wikipedia media did that and 

1801
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:59,120
I included it. 
Football, American football or 

1802
01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:02,600
like non American football. 
I see. 

1803
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:04,640
Yeah. 
And then in July, Zendaya was 

1804
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,040
spotted on the Crowded room set 
multiple times. 

1805
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:08,880
That's the miniseries that Tom 
was in. 

1806
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,640
And then the following months, 
Tom visited her in Budapest and 

1807
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,920
Jordan on the set of Dune Part 
2. 

1808
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:21,440
And then November 2022, La 
Roche, Zendaya and Tom Stylist 

1809
01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:24,560
was on the Drew Barrymore Show 
and he said that Sunday and Tom 

1810
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:27,880
had been secretly in love 
forever and that he was happy 

1811
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:29,760
they were finally public with 
their love. 

1812
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:33,520
And then December. 14th Tom and 
Zedea. 

1813
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:36,480
Went together to visit her old 
school, the Oakland School of 

1814
01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:38,200
the Arts. 
That's so to speak. 

1815
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:42,320
I love that showing. 
Your significant other, your 

1816
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,480
past, where you grew up. 
Yeah, all those little things. 

1817
01:33:45,480 --> 01:33:48,200
Very cute. 
What's important to you? 

1818
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:53,080
Well, then they. 
Spend a lot of the early 2023 

1819
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,960
vacationing. 
They went on a month long trip 

1820
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,040
to the Caribbean. 
They went to the Turks and 

1821
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:03,200
Caicos, Saint Vincent, St. 
Lucia, Antigua and Barbuda and 

1822
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:06,400
the Grenadines. 
They were all over the Caribbean

1823
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:10,000
together. 
Yeah, a whole month lucky. 

1824
01:34:11,440 --> 01:34:14,200
And they made lots of. 
Posts about this featuring each 

1825
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,360
other on their instagrams and 
then they also spent a couple 

1826
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,800
days in France and Monaco 
afterwards. 

1827
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,320
Wow, they are just totally open 
now. 

1828
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,360
I know. 
And then they went on. 

1829
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:27,880
Another vacation together in 
April to Mumbai, India. 

1830
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,640
And then in between these trips,
they were also spotted together 

1831
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:32,760
nearly every day, mostly in 
London. 

1832
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,840
So they're, they're together, 
they're very much nearly every 

1833
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:39,000
day. 
Yep, and then they travel. 

1834
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,920
To Las Vegas. 
Together, spend time there, go 

1835
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,760
to a bunch of concerts and then 
they also go to Venice and they 

1836
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:49,000
spend time there as well. 
So this part of the year, 

1837
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,640
they're just traveling. 
I don't think they're working. 

1838
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:52,960
They're just they're just 
traveling. 

1839
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,040
Oh my gosh. 
And. 

1840
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:58,920
Then June 4th. 2023 While 
answering Buzzfeed's 30 

1841
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:03,680
questions, Tom is asked about 
his rizz game or charisma game. 

1842
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:07,120
Is rizz still a thing? 
I don't know and you can see the

1843
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:10,040
clip. 
I have no rizz whatsoever. 

1844
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:13,000
I have limited rizz. 
My brother Paddy has ultimate 

1845
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:14,040
rizz. 
I don't know. 

1846
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,880
I need you to fall in love with 
me, really, for it to work. 

1847
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:20,440
So long game, probably making a 
movie with each other. 

1848
01:35:20,440 --> 01:35:22,360
It definitely helps when the 
characters you're playing are 

1849
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:23,480
falling in love with one 
another. 

1850
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:24,960
You can sort of blur the lines a
little bit. 

1851
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:26,840
That's kind of where my rizz is 
AT. 

1852
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,840
And I'm, you know, I'm locked 
up, so I'm happy and in love, so

1853
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:33,600
I've got no need for rizz. 
That's so cute. 

1854
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,440
Don't you think? 
Oh my. 

1855
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:40,520
Gosh, adorable. 
Adorable. 

1856
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:44,200
No, I'm knocked. 
Up really in love. 

1857
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,720
I should just. 
Start saying that to people like

1858
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,240
locked. 
Up I'm in love. 

1859
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,080
So I'm just like, oh, I have a 
boyfriend. 

1860
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,240
I'm. 
In love, like someone tries to 

1861
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:56,600
talk. 
To me or whatever I'm like. 

1862
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:00,760
I'm in love, so I'm I'm taking. 
Dare you OK. 

1863
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,040
Next time. 
Next time the opportunity 

1864
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,720
presents. 
Itself instead of saying I have 

1865
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,440
a boyfriend, I'm in love. 
It could be so. 

1866
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:13,160
Funny if someone use that when. 
They aren't even dating that 

1867
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:14,720
person, just like they're 
crushed. 

1868
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:16,640
I'm unavailable. 
I'm in love. 

1869
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:17,000
Yeah. 
And. 

1870
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:19,320
They're like, oh, you're married
or something. 

1871
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,840
No, you're engaged. 
No, you have a boyfriend or 

1872
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:24,680
something. 
No, I just love someone from 

1873
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:27,080
afar, but I'm really committed 
to that person. 

1874
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:30,760
Well, a couple days later, he 
did an interview for UNILAD and 

1875
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:34,000
he was asked about his carpentry
skills because he does carpentry

1876
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,800
on the side. 
He says like if he wasn't an 

1877
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:41,360
actor, he would be a Carpenter. 
And he says that in the 

1878
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:45,840
interview that early on in his 
relationship with Zendaya, he he

1879
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:49,000
fixed a door for her with his 
carpentry skills. 

1880
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,120
Nice and very attractive. 
Yeah. 

1881
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:52,400
And he said. 
That was like, he was like. 

1882
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:55,040
Trying to be really cool about 
it, like I'm going to fix that 

1883
01:36:55,040 --> 01:37:00,560
door for you, you know, I do 
think Carpenter is the most. 

1884
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:04,600
Attractive male career. 
I think a lot of people agree on

1885
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:05,680
that. 
Maybe they would. 

1886
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:08,120
Furniture maker. 
Wooden. 

1887
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:13,320
Furniture maker. 
Metal furniture worker Maker. 

1888
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,320
Yeah, No, not the brutal. 
No. 

1889
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:17,240
That's what I was thinking 
about. 

1890
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,240
Nope. 
Well another thing with like 

1891
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:22,560
helping out or going to 
Zendaya's hometown. 

1892
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:28,760
Zendaya and Tom in on On August 
26th they participated in an All

1893
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:32,960
Stars basketball game for 
charity in Oakland, CA Nice. 

1894
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,880
And then September 1st, Tom 
posted a photo of Zendaya to his

1895
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,840
Instagram for her birthday with 
the caption My birthday girl 

1896
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:45,360
heart emoji or heart eyes emoji.
Rather sweet. 

1897
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:49,880
And then 2020. 4. 
Which is just this past year. 

1898
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,480
In January, Tom said in an 
interview that he and Zendaya 

1899
01:37:53,480 --> 01:37:56,760
will occasionally rewatch the 
first Spider Man movie of 

1900
01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:01,600
theirs, Spider Man Homecoming, 
to reminisce and look back on 

1901
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:03,960
like, where they started 
together. 

1902
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:06,600
Just the first one though, I 
guess, because that's the first.

1903
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:10,440
One you know. 
That's when they together, Yeah,

1904
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,480
that melts my heart. 
But they just put it. 

1905
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,440
On yeah, when I was doing 
research and I got. 

1906
01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:22,040
To that part I was like maybe I 
should rewatch Spreading so I 

1907
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:25,040
put it on cuz I was like let me 
reminisce with them. 

1908
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:27,320
That's so sweet. 
Yeah, I own it. 

1909
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,240
On DVD so I can. 
A lot of people say they've 

1910
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:31,920
never want to. 
Rewatch their movies or 

1911
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,200
something. 
So that's kind of, I know it is 

1912
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:35,160
cute. 
You should enjoy. 

1913
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,680
It I know. 
And then we're almost. 

1914
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,080
Done with clips. 
I only have two more in 

1915
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,080
February. 
Zendaya does a lot of press for 

1916
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:46,680
Dune 2 and she gets a very cute 
answer regarding Tom even when 

1917
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:49,280
the question has like nothing to
do with him for the most part. 

1918
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:52,200
So it's like if you want to be 
private, just don't bring him 

1919
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:56,240
up, you know? 
So you can see the first one, 

1920
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,960
which I believe is 15 Yorkshire 
T as in there. 

1921
01:38:59,960 --> 01:39:04,240
What about you? 
Yeah, my boyfriend, I would just

1922
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,800
take him with me. 
That's right. 

1923
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:08,440
That's the best. 
Answer. 

1924
01:39:08,440 --> 01:39:11,640
Yeah, I love that. 
So the question was for. 

1925
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:14,080
Some reason they were all being 
asked this, like what would you 

1926
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:18,400
take from the United Kingdom or 
the UK and take back with you? 

1927
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:20,200
I don't know why that was the 
question. 

1928
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,480
And her answer is my boyfriend, 
obviously, like I wish I could 

1929
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:28,160
take him with me. 
That's I know Timmy's responses.

1930
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:29,280
Oh, that's right. 
Oh. 

1931
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:32,720
Here. 
What jealous? 

1932
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:36,160
Is he jealous? 
That'd be crazy. 

1933
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,040
That'd. 
Be cool, it could have been him.

1934
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:41,760
Imagine if he got spider man. 
If he was spider man. 

1935
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:44,440
Well anyway. 
Anyway, Zendaya is interviewed 

1936
01:39:44,440 --> 01:39:48,240
again and she mentions Tom even 
though she doesn't need to, so 

1937
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:53,440
you can watch that. 
It's #16 She's asked who on the 

1938
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:59,320
cast of Dune has the most rizz. 
Me. 

1939
01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:03,240
I love, I don't know, Rizz is 
short for charisma, right? 

1940
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:04,600
Everybody's kind of got their 
own. 

1941
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,480
I think someone who has 
beautiful charisma. 

1942
01:40:07,480 --> 01:40:10,840
Not on the Dune cast, but I 
personally works for me, it's 

1943
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:15,080
Mr. Sean Holland. 
So yeah. 

1944
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:17,400
What? 
She just mentioned her boyfriend

1945
01:40:17,440 --> 01:40:19,760
out of the. 
Yeah, she's asked who on the 

1946
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:21,440
Dune cast. 
Has the most rizz. 

1947
01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:24,600
And she says my boyfriend, Tom 
Holland, even though she's not 

1948
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:30,200
in the Dune cast, she's found a 
way to talk about him. 

1949
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:33,080
Yeah. 
What the heck? 

1950
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:35,480
Crazy I know. 
Like you don't need to bring him

1951
01:40:35,480 --> 01:40:36,880
up. 
If you don't want to, I don't 

1952
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,520
know if you want to be private. 
It would almost be annoying if I

1953
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:41,200
didn't think he was so cute. 
But I do. 

1954
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,600
Yeah. 
It is very cute, that's why. 

1955
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:47,040
That's one of the words from but
if it was like Chrissy Teigen. 

1956
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:50,040
And John Legend, he would be 
like answer. 

1957
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:54,640
The damn question. 
Stop bringing your marriage into

1958
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:58,000
this. 
Yeah, well then May 7th, Tom 

1959
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,880
posted to his Instagram two 
photos of Zendaya at the Met 

1960
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:04,640
Gala with the caption of three 
heart eye emojis. 

1961
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:08,200
So he he's always posting his 
girl on his Instagram. 

1962
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:12,000
That's really sweet. 
And then keep saying that. 

1963
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,400
Yeah. 
And then throughout June and 

1964
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:14,320
July. 
As and they. 

1965
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:18,480
Attended multiple performances 
of Tom's Romeo and Juliet play 

1966
01:41:18,480 --> 01:41:23,720
on the West End and I've heard 
that it wasn't that good so she 

1967
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:26,280
must really love him. 
If she went to multiple 

1968
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:30,920
performances of It Sucks, Why 
wasn't it that good 'cause it 

1969
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:32,720
was. 
Very experimental. 

1970
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:36,200
I watched so many reviews about 
it even before I was doing this 

1971
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,800
episode. 
For some reason I I don't even 

1972
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:43,320
care for Broadway or the West 
End, but I watch YouTube videos 

1973
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:48,320
about it. 
Jamie, Jamie Lloyd I think is 

1974
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,720
the guy who did it and he has a 
very weird way. 

1975
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,560
Not weird, just a different way 
of doing plays. 

1976
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:56,480
And sometimes it works and 
sometimes it doesn't, where it's

1977
01:41:56,480 --> 01:42:00,840
very stripped down. 
The characters were like Gray. 

1978
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,440
The set is very Gray. 
There's like no set, Pretty much

1979
01:42:03,440 --> 01:42:06,320
none. 
And sometimes they do it via 

1980
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:09,480
like filming. 
Like instead of watching the 

1981
01:42:09,480 --> 01:42:13,560
play happen on stage, you'll 
watch it like on a screen. 

1982
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:17,120
And sometimes it'll be live 
where like somebody's performing

1983
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:20,040
on the roof and you're just 
watching like a recording of it.

1984
01:42:20,440 --> 01:42:22,600
I don't know. 
It didn't work apparently for 

1985
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:26,200
the Romeo and Juliet play. 
Sometimes it works for other 

1986
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:30,040
ones, but so if you don't care 
about Broadway and West End. 

1987
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:31,360
Why are you watching videos 
about? 

1988
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:33,520
That's interesting, really. 
You do. 

1989
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:36,280
Care a bit. 
Is it Jamie Heath? 

1990
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:37,040
No. 
Jamie Lloyd. 

1991
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:38,560
I was right. 
You must care. 

1992
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,360
You do care. 
I like to be in the know. 

1993
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:47,120
I unironically watch a lot of 
stuff about things that I don't 

1994
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,440
really care about. 
I don't think that's true. 

1995
01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:52,120
I think you do care. 
About it I just I just like to 

1996
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:54,040
be in the know I I. 
Mean, I don't know. 

1997
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:58,040
Anyway, OK, in October, Tom 
launched his alcohol free beer 

1998
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:02,840
brand called B Row, and one of 
the brews he says is named after

1999
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:06,720
his and Zendaya's dog. 
Noon and Noon was originally 

2000
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:09,000
Zendaya's dog. 
Previously, like it was always 

2001
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:12,000
known as Zendaya's dog, but now 
it seems like he considers the 

2002
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:14,520
dog his too. 
Oh wait. 

2003
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,720
Noon NOO. 
N yes, noon. 

2004
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:19,240
It's a cute dog name, yeah. 
What made him? 

2005
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:21,400
Want to have a non alcoholic 
beer? 

2006
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:23,720
He was just stopping. 
I don't think like he. 

2007
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:28,120
Really had like an addiction or 
anything but I think he wanted 

2008
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:31,240
to curtail his drinking and stop
drinking and he realized that 

2009
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:35,680
there really wasn't any non 
alcoholic beers so he thought 

2010
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:39,680
that there was a market for it 
so he got into that his there 

2011
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:41,400
definitely are non alcoholic 
beers but. 

2012
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:42,520
Maybe he just thought they 
weren't good. 

2013
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:44,760
Yeah, maybe so. 
Maybe as it's better, I don't 

2014
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,000
know. 
Also, Zendaya doesn't drink. 

2015
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,560
I didn't mention that before. 
So maybe that also kind of 

2016
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:53,920
influenced him also. 
So and then they were going to 

2017
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:58,440
be photographed at the Bureau 
event, the official launch 

2018
01:43:58,440 --> 01:44:00,560
event, and you can see pictures 
of that. 

2019
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:04,600
So that is 17. 
It's kind of a random venture of

2020
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:09,560
his Bureau. 
He's just staring straight 

2021
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,200
ahead. 
He almost looks like daring the 

2022
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:13,040
headlights. 
And she looks very cool. 

2023
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:17,000
I know he's not. 
Posed in the vest way, but they 

2024
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:18,200
look cute. 
It's cute. 

2025
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:19,480
Yeah. 
Wow, this is. 

2026
01:44:19,480 --> 01:44:22,840
Quite a setup they have, I know 
glasses. 

2027
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:25,840
Behind them and. 
Wooden shelves and this is 

2028
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:27,720
Bureau. 
He must have a lot of money, I 

2029
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:29,920
think so definitely he must get 
millions. 

2030
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:31,320
From being Spider man. 
Wow. 

2031
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:35,160
Yeah. 
And probably we'll get more in 

2032
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:38,080
the future movies he's going to 
be in because like Robert Downey

2033
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,800
Junior when he did Avengers End 
Game, I think he got like 

2034
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:46,560
75,000,000. 
And I think if Tom keeps 

2035
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:49,560
churning out these Spider Man 
movies, he will probably get 

2036
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:51,600
paid around the same amount I 
assume. 

2037
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,360
That's crazy. 
I know, that's all I have to 

2038
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:54,880
say. 
About that, yeah. 

2039
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:56,040
And she? 
Has a successful. 

2040
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,200
Career too, so. 
They're both ranking in that 

2041
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,120
money. 
And then throughout November, 

2042
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:03,080
Tom and Zendaya were in 
Massachusetts while Zendaya 

2043
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:07,360
filmed her new movie with Robert
Pattinson called the Drama. 

2044
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,880
I don't think, Tom. 
Was working at that point in. 

2045
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,720
Time besides maybe on Bureau so 
he lived with Zendaya during 

2046
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:17,760
this time in Massachusetts. 
This must be when they went to 

2047
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:19,560
Salem as I. 
Mentioned at the beginning, I 

2048
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:21,280
think it was. 
I think it was the. 

2049
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:23,440
Episode. 
It's so cute they did a little 

2050
01:45:23,440 --> 01:45:26,520
day. 
Yeah, it's crazy to think about,

2051
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,000
I know I I do recommend. 
If anybody visits. 

2052
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:31,960
Massachusetts. 
You should go to Salem. 

2053
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:34,800
It's very cool. 
I would love to live there. 

2054
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,840
I know you did. 
Live there, Kelly, so I know 

2055
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,160
sometimes I really do miss. 
Living there, I feel very 

2056
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:44,280
nostalgic about it, but I had to
leave for some reason. 

2057
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:48,080
For some reason. 
Well, anyway, on November. 27th,

2058
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:51,040
still in Massachusetts. 
Tom and Zendaya both got 

2059
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:55,720
matching tattoos on the sides of
their rib cage, and Tom got AZ 

2060
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:58,960
and Zendaya got AT. 
Oh my gosh, yeah. 

2061
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:01,480
That's permanent. 
I know. 

2062
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:03,440
But that's serious. 
Wow. 

2063
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:05,920
We'll know what's even they're. 
Really in love. 

2064
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,400
Or serious. 
What? 

2065
01:46:08,440 --> 01:46:10,240
Well, a couple months. 
Later in. 

2066
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:15,640
January of 2025, Zendaya was at 
the Golden Globes, and she 

2067
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:20,520
debuted a Jessica McCormick 
diamond engagement ring on her 

2068
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:25,200
left finger. 
So they're finally, finally. 

2069
01:46:26,480 --> 01:46:30,720
Oh my goodness, after like 9 
years. 

2070
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,680
Knowing one another and being 
together and then having that 

2071
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:36,680
break and then getting back 
together. 

2072
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:40,760
They are now engaged and it's 
confirmed. 

2073
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:44,560
So it's not just like, oh, she 
had that ring on that finger and

2074
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,040
oh, it's not, it's not an 
engagement ring. 

2075
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:48,960
It's a, it's a promise ring or 
something. 

2076
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:52,200
Or I'm just wearing a ring, you 
know, because of a few days 

2077
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:57,000
later, Tom's dad, Dominic wrote 
on his blog regarding the 

2078
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:59,920
engagement rumor and I'm going 
to read a short excerpt from it.

2079
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:03,280
The engagement has now been 
confirmed and why I'm writing 

2080
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,040
about it here, but without 
adding anything new and juicy. 

2081
01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:09,360
Tom, as you know by now, was 
very incredibly well prepared. 

2082
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,080
He had purchased a ring. 
He has spoken with her father 

2083
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:14,240
and gained permission to propose
to his daughter. 

2084
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,920
Tom had everything planned out, 
when, where, how, what to say, 

2085
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:20,440
what to wear. 
For most blokes, the stress of 

2086
01:47:20,440 --> 01:47:23,320
purchasing an engagement ring is
being able to afford it. 

2087
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:26,440
I suspect that this was the 
least of Tom's worries, more 

2088
01:47:26,440 --> 01:47:29,520
concerned with the stone, its 
size and clarity, its housing. 

2089
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,160
Which jeweler? 
I do fret that their combined 

2090
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:35,120
stardom will amplify their 
spotlight and the and the 

2091
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,280
commensurate demands on them. 
And yet they continually 

2092
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:40,920
confound me by handling 
everything with a plum. 

2093
01:47:41,480 --> 01:47:45,080
And even though show business is
a messy place for relationships,

2094
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:48,720
and particularly so for famous 
couples as they crash and burn 

2095
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:52,160
in public and are too numerous 
to mention, and yet somehow, 

2096
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:55,000
right at the same time, I'm 
completely confident they will 

2097
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:59,000
make a successful union. 
It's kind of. 

2098
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:02,400
Touching that his dad wrote 
that, I know that was nice to 

2099
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:03,120
hear. 
I know. 

2100
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:04,600
And he asked. 
For her. 

2101
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:08,640
Permission from her dad. 
Like, it's so sweet. 

2102
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:12,280
He doesn't need to do that. 
But Oh my God, I don't know. 

2103
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:15,680
It's adorable. 
They do seem very. 

2104
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:19,480
Much like just good people to be
wholesome, I would say. 

2105
01:48:19,480 --> 01:48:22,440
So they don't seem crazy at all.
They don't seem like partiers. 

2106
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:25,560
It's interesting, yeah. 
And that's pretty much as. 

2107
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:31,560
Far as we know as of right now, 
they were both cast. 

2108
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:35,520
In. 
Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey 

2109
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,640
movie, and so they're building 
that. 

2110
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,800
They'll also be doing Spider Man
4, so they'll be filming 

2111
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:46,000
together a bunch probably soon. 
But that's pretty much it. 

2112
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:50,640
Last we knew they got engaged. 
That's amazing and it's really. 

2113
01:48:51,480 --> 01:48:54,480
Lucky that in a way we waited to
cover them until now. 

2114
01:48:54,480 --> 01:48:56,560
I know we could have done them 
in the past, but. 

2115
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:58,200
Now we know that they're. 
Engaged. 

2116
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:02,360
And I feel like that really 
changes even how you see them. 

2117
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:04,880
Like I don't know, I guess they 
have been pretty open about 

2118
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:09,520
their relationship lately, but 
like it you could maybe still 

2119
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:11,360
argue like is it PR? 
Exactly. 

2120
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:14,400
I feel like by this point, no, 
you can't say that for real. 

2121
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,920
It's been so long. 
I know it's been like. 

2122
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:21,600
Six years almost. 10, I mean 
nine years. 

2123
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:24,120
Sorry, it's been 9 years, almost
10. 

2124
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,360
Crazy. 
It's exciting to see them get. 

2125
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:29,320
Engaged. 
I mean a lot of. 

2126
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:32,400
These couples that remind me of 
them, like Robert Pattinson, 

2127
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:36,440
Kristen Stewart and Emma Stone 
and Andrew Garfield, I mean, 

2128
01:49:36,440 --> 01:49:41,000
there's a lot of other similar 
couples, but who were who played

2129
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,280
romantic interests in these big 
franchises. 

2130
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,920
They didn't make it that far, so
they always like. 

2131
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:48,800
Crash and burn before it 
happens. 

2132
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:51,880
So it's nice to see them finally
like crossing the finish line, 

2133
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,840
so to say. 
I know. 

2134
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:58,280
Knock on wood. 
I do wish them all the best. 

2135
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:00,840
Me too. 
Odds that they're gonna stay 

2136
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,240
together. 
I hope. 

2137
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,320
Oh my God, that would. 
Be really sad. 

2138
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:09,520
It would be so bad. 
I'll say 80%. 

2139
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:11,880
I'm gonna say OK, I'm gonna say 
90. 

2140
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:16,120
Percent 'cause there's still 10%
it might not work out and that 

2141
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:18,600
will if they don't work out, 
that'll be that 10%. 

2142
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:22,120
But I'm hopeful. 
They do seem like they. 

2143
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:26,360
Go really well together and 
yeah, still love each other and 

2144
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,920
are just like each other's best 
friend. 

2145
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,120
And I've mentioned and I forgot 
to. 

2146
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:38,000
Mention this, but Tom especially
in like 20/24/2023, so many 

2147
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:40,480
times in interviews, it kept 
coming up how he wants to be a 

2148
01:50:40,480 --> 01:50:44,160
husband and he wants to be a dad
and he kind of wants to be like 

2149
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:48,240
a stay at home dad a little bit 
and just like raise kids and 

2150
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:51,440
maybe get into his carpentry and
work on his other ventures and 

2151
01:50:51,440 --> 01:50:54,160
things. 
So I can imagine that if they do

2152
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:57,160
get married, I mean, he does 
have a lot of MCU movies to come

2153
01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,200
out, but I think I could see 
him. 

2154
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,320
And her. 
Well, maybe him just stepping 

2155
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:05,040
away from the spotlight for a 
little bit and then she can act.

2156
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:06,880
I don't know. 
We'll see. 

2157
01:51:07,440 --> 01:51:08,960
Kate, thanks. 
For doing all this. 

2158
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,240
Research. 
That's crazy. 

2159
01:51:11,480 --> 01:51:15,240
I always appreciate it when you 
and Mel, I appreciate it. 

2160
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:16,360
Thanks. 
For showing up. 

2161
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:19,720
And like seeing this podcast 
with me and it's crazy that you 

2162
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:22,280
took all the time. 
Thanks for doing the podcast 

2163
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:23,440
with me. 
Too. 

2164
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:26,840
Thanks for listening. 
I'm really, really sad that Mel 

2165
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:27,680
was. 
Here today. 

2166
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:31,680
It feels wrong, I know. 
I wonder what her take on? 

2167
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:35,040
All this would have been I feel 
ashamed. 

2168
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:36,440
Don't. 
Feel ashamed. 

2169
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:38,800
I don't know, it just feels 
wrong to do. 

2170
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:42,040
It without her, although we did 
it without you for years so. 

2171
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:46,640
But that was that was. 
Just the way it was. 

2172
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:48,480
Yeah. 
Wow. 

2173
01:51:48,480 --> 01:51:49,920
Zom. 
Zom. 

2174
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:57,280
Zom. 
Zom or Tom Dahlia? 

2175
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:02,800
That's what Tom say, yeah. 
Zom yeah, it's a wrap. 

2176
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:07,240
We did it finally did em. 
Heavy hitter. 

2177
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:11,680
OK, so next we have another. 
Couple that will be on Patreon. 

2178
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,000
Kate, do you wanna tease who it 
is? 

2179
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:17,520
Yes, I. 
Am doing very different from 

2180
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:21,200
this one. 
I am doing a very famous couple 

2181
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:25,120
from the 1930s. 
Nice. 

2182
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:27,120
Yeah, that's all you're gonna. 
That's all I'm gonna say. 

2183
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:29,000
I feel like that's obvious 
enough, but I don't. 

2184
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:32,680
Know I don't think so we'll see 
we'll. 

2185
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:35,840
See. 
Okay, yeah, well, I'm pumped. 

2186
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,400
Me too, as I always am. 
But. 

2187
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:40,000
I'm. 
Excited and you guys. 

2188
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:41,960
Should be too and that. 
Will be on Patreon. 

2189
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:44,520
It will be and we'll have 
another public episode the week 

2190
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:48,120
after that. 
We always have two a month. 4 

2191
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:51,680
total. 
The 2 to public and to Patreon, 

2192
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:53,480
yeah. 
Well, thank you. 

2193
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:55,320
Yep, and. 
You're listening also if you 

2194
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:58,160
don't. 
Know we are on Instagram at 

2195
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:00,360
significant lovers. 
A lot of the times we post the 

2196
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:03,760
pictures and the clips that we 
talk about in the episodes to 

2197
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:07,400
our Instagram. 
So if you're yes, if you're here

2198
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:09,440
listening to this episode and 
you're like, I want to see those

2199
01:53:09,440 --> 01:53:11,320
pictures that you guys are 
talking about. 

2200
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:14,160
Well, it will be on our 
Instagram when this episode 

2201
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:16,400
comes out. 
So check on over there. 

2202
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:18,960
The pictures aren't always out 
the day episode. 

2203
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:21,040
But around that in the following
weeks. 

2204
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:24,640
So check that. 
Out, yes, All right, well, we 

2205
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:28,400
love you guys, but we will get 
back together next. 

2206
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:32,720
Week. 
Is your heart filled? 

2207
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:44,480
With pain shall I come back 
again? 

2208
01:53:44,480 --> 01:53:45,760
Tell me dear.
