1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:07,560 Are you lonesome tonight? Do you miss me tonight? 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:17,240 Are you sorry we dressed apart? Does your man? 3 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,400 We're back. Hi guys. 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,640 Thanks for joining us again on Significant Lovers. 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,600 This is a really fun episode. We're going back to the 2000s. 6 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,440 But before you begin, I am Mel. And I'm Kel. 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,920 We are two cousins, and. Yup, and we're so happy to be 8 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,760 here. We podcast about true love 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,600 stories for anyone who feels like love comes easiest to 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,800 anyone else. This is not our own word. 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,200 Someone else came up with this. This is the podcast for you. 12 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,480 Because it doesn't. Even for the rich and famous, 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,440 relationships are really hard. They are, it's true. 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,680 And even the one we're talking about today, these beautiful, 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,920 gorgeous young starlets from the early 2000s. 16 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,680 Even they had to deal with hardship and uncertainty. 17 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,280 But yeah, this is our 70th episode. 18 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,720 Wow. Oh my God, I know. 19 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,600 Can't believe we're here. Oh my gosh, it's flown by, I 20 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,240 feel like. I've been. 21 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,360 I don't know why I've been waiting for the 70s. 22 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,680 I knew we were going to make it and I I just felt like that was 23 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,600 going to be when we were like really in the swing of things. 24 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,160 I don't. Know Wow, we covered so many 25 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,760 couples. I know I still remember all the 26 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,520 episodes at this point. Me too. 27 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,120 I mean somebody. Know you might start to. 28 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,000 Forget the other day, though. I was like, huh, I kind of want 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,560 to cover. Don't be offended. 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,040 But I was like, I kind of want to cover the Obamas. 31 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,840 And then I was like, wait a minute, we've already done that. 32 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,640 OK, at least you remembered right after. 33 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,240 No, I remembered right after. But hey, it's a compliment. 34 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,199 That was such a good episode. So anyway, anyway, today's 35 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:15,240 episode is something I'm really excited about, and I do think 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,640 it's going to be a long one. So Mel, if you have to go to the 37 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:20,680 bathroom at some point or something, let me know. 38 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,680 But. But before we get into the 39 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,080 episode, you know, on the podcast we've talked a lot about 40 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:33,280 how mental health can affect relationships and we recently 41 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,040 learned of an organization that is doing a lot of important work 42 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:42,360 to combat OCD in relationships. Yeah, it's called no CD. 43 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,720 And you know, OCD is more than what you see on TV and in the 44 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,560 movies. If you imagine having unwanted 45 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,440 thoughts about your relationship stuck in your head all day, no 46 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,400 matter how hard you try to make them go away, that's 47 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,720 relationship OCD, which I feel like is a less known about type 48 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,400 of OCD, but it comes with unrelenting intrusive images, 49 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,880 thoughts and urges about your partner, a loved one. 50 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,960 And breaking the OCD cycle takes effective treatment. 51 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:15,960 You can go to no CD, so that's NOCD dot com to get evidence 52 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,960 based treatment. And on no CD you can book a call 53 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,680 with a face to face licensed therapist. 54 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,920 And no CD is sponsored by most insurance companies. 55 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:29,680 So yeah, it's a really cool organization that I feel like is 56 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,640 pretty relevant to our show and anybody that's struggling with a 57 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:36,000 breakup. If you know someone, a loved one 58 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,160 that is maybe having issues with relationship OCD, then you 59 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,880 should tell them about no CD. Yeah, we're going back to the 60 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:52,120 early 2000s to talk about Adam Brody and Rachel Bilson, the TV 61 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:57,120 show The OC. And I wanted to set the stage 62 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,880 for this time period. I mean, we've talked about it 63 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,240 before, but I don't know, I just wanted to set the scene. 64 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,920 And so I asked our patrons on Patreon, what's the first piece 65 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,840 of pop culture you think of when you hear early 2000s? 66 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,680 Because this is, you know, where Adam and Rachel, we're living at 67 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,959 the time where their story takes place. 68 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,880 And I want to read some of them and I feel like this is actually 69 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,040 good ideas for our show. Just to hear what people say. 70 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,720 We got a lot of responses, like, holy crap, I think this is the 71 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,560 most I've ever seen from these questions we've done. 72 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,360 But Zoe said Justin and Britney's matching denim. 73 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:38,880 Full denim fits. Sarah said Perez Hilton Sunny 74 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,840 said the toxic music video. Britney Spears, Carrie said. 75 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:47,200 Avril Lavigne, Layla said. Britney Spears, everything, Lo 76 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,280 said. Britney Spears. 77 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,200 Claire said. Britney Spears, Megan said I'm a 78 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,920 slave for you. Britney Spears music video, 79 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,560 Yeah, Britney Spears for sure. Yeah, it's the early 2000s. 80 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,160 Britney, I think this is my friend from real life, Britney 81 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,240 said. iPods and George D Bush getting a shoe thrown at him. 82 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:09,960 Jane said Brangelina. We've covered them. 83 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,440 The simple life, Livestrong bracelets, Britney kissing 84 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,960 Madonna. Yes, Muna Muna had a really nice 85 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,320 description. Said silver and white eyeliner 86 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,400 with a lot of metallic trimming on clothes. 87 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,680 Also neon see through inflatables, true chairs, 88 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,960 phones. I guess those are the see 89 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,000 through neon things. Also bedazzling all our iPods 90 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,600 and phones, Jane said. Also said the Delia's catalog. 91 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,600 Yes, I loved the Delia's. I loved Julius. 92 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,800 Did that still exist? No, I don't think so. 93 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,960 But then again, I stopped going, so I probably contributed 94 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,640 contributed to their demise. Well, maybe you stopped going 95 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,400 because they disappeared. Oh yeah, maybe. 96 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:02,280 Maybe that's why the Lindsay Lohan, Hilary Duff, Aaron Carter 97 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,400 love triangle suggested by Maureen. 98 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,640 But she also said Frankie Muniz the dump. 99 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:11,800 I don't know if I can read all of these. 100 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:12,720 Oh wait, we're almost at the end. 101 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,520 Maggie Licious said the dump him shirt. 102 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,560 The party girl era Brangelina. Reality shows. 103 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,160 Guys, I said one thing. Just kidding. 104 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,160 Low rise jeans. Flats, Any Britney VMA 105 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,600 performance. Side bangs in Myspace. 106 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,480 The pic of Justin and Britney in all denim. 107 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,160 Yes, Britney Victoria said. Genie in a bottle. 108 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,400 A lot. Of responses. 109 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,800 And Yannick, I know this is a lot. 110 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,320 And Yannica said for sure, Britney Spears. 111 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,120 But also speaking from a perspective, from someone living 112 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:50,320 in Germany, the music musician Ben with his song Engel. 113 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,280 I hope I'm saying that right. I still love it so much. 114 00:06:52,280 --> 00:06:55,720 I'll have to look that up. And all the weird shows on MTV, 115 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,080 like Next Date, My Mom Exposed. I love New York. 116 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,880 The simple life, you name it. I watched. 117 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,040 I watched it. Oh. 118 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:04,520 Yeah. Do you remember being at 119 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,320 Grandpa's house and watching MTV in the den? 120 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,640 Yeah, I I think I do. I I used to watch all those 121 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,120 trashy shows like Next And yeah, I'm torrential control. 122 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,680 Yeah, I was just talking about that the other day with my 123 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,960 friend Sarah. Oh. 124 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,160 My Super Sweet 16. Yeah. 125 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,680 Love that sweet. 16 cribs, yeah, yeah. 126 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:39,000 We loved in the 2000s Hilary Duff and Avril Lavigne. 127 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,440 I know. JoJo. 128 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,840 Nobody said the OCS, so maybe I should just pack it up and. 129 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,440 I think of, like, early Degrassi. 130 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,800 Yeah, true. So early 2000s. 131 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,760 I know the next Gen., but yeah, the. 132 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,200 Researching this episode really brought me back. 133 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,320 My friends and I watched The OC in high school. 134 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,520 It's so we were a little too young to watch this show 'cause 135 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:08,680 it was on in 2003 and I was in 3rd grade, but I watched it in 136 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,960 high school on DVD box set. And I'm going to get into the 137 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,480 facts and everything, but I just remembered like I just unlocked 138 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,120 a memory. My friend Maddie and I at lunch 139 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,080 because the cafeteria was so loud. 140 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,160 We everyone talking whatever. We didn't think anybody would 141 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,240 hear us. So we would just at the top of 142 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:32,720 our lungs belt the OC theme song which is like California, 143 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,360 California. And then we would scream the 144 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,880 here we come like at the top of our lungs and my our other 145 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,440 friends would get so embarrassed and be like, what are you doing? 146 00:08:44,680 --> 00:08:48,200 Stop it. We did it all the time. 147 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,800 That's so. Funny, Yeah, California. 148 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,480 So yeah, those. See, it only ran for Four 149 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,760 Seasons. Most people agree that at least 150 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,680 one or two of those seasons were not good at all, and even the 151 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:06,840 creators of the show admit it. But it was still a hugely 152 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,040 influential show. I mean, I feel like there's a 153 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,880 lot of shows like that, like Freaks and Geeks and my 154 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,680 so-called Life. Like they don't run that long, 155 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:20,320 but they still make a big splash in, yeah, pop culture and the 156 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,600 OC. It was notable for a couple 157 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,200 reasons, like first of all that area Orange County was just 158 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,720 called OC before and then after the show people started calling 159 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,480 it the OC. Oh. 160 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,160 Just crazy. I know it was the first show. 161 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,760 Maybe, I don't know. It was the very first but first 162 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,960 show to like really incorporate music specifically like music by 163 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,960 lesser known bands and indie musicians. 164 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,880 And it had the same that, you know, music supervisor. 165 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,400 We've talked about Alex Patsavas who did Grey's Anatomy and 166 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,480 Gossip Girl, Twilight and really made like ATV show a place to 167 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,520 discover music, which was like such a thing I think in the 168 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,960 2000s and twenty 10s. And even still, I think I feel 169 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:08,920 like it kind of started here and also after the OC inspired shows 170 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,200 like Real Housewives of OC, Laguna Beach and then The Hills, 171 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,920 because OC has these characters like Seth Cohen, who's played by 172 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Adam Brody, who's like this hipster nerd guy with them. 173 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,920 It also has like the opposite with these glitzy housewives. 174 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,720 So I don't know. Just like it was an influential 175 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,600 show and I'm excited to be revisiting it to talk about 176 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,880 their the stars that dated Adam Brody and Rachel Bilson. 177 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,120 I'm excited to hear it. I never watched The OC all the 178 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,320 way through, but I've seen enough episodes to get the gist 179 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,480 of it. And like, I know their 180 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,760 characters from the show. I really like Rachel Bilson. 181 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,760 I, you know, kind of had a guilty pleasure for her show. 182 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,160 The Hearted Dixie. I thought it was so cute and 183 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:03,160 she's just adorable. And I, Adam Brody, I fell in 184 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,440 love with his character who is a short lived character but on 185 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,960 Gilmore Girls. And honestly, I'm a little mad 186 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:14,760 at the OC because they took him away from Gilmore Girls and his 187 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,240 character was just probably the best guy in the show. 188 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,680 But. I watched a bunch of clips, 189 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,880 maybe not all of his scenes, but I watched a lot of his scenes on 190 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,000 YouTube to see what he was like on Gilmore Girls, and he did 191 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,840 seem pretty similar to Seth, actually. 192 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,080 Yeah. How did they write him off 193 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,600 though? Spoiler. 194 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,080 That he, like, went to college across the country. 195 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,600 So did him. And what was who was he dating? 196 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,800 He dated Lane and they just had such a cute relationship. 197 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,280 They broke up. So did they break up? 198 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,920 Yeah, broke up. Like off screen and it was just 199 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,720 so upsetting because they had such a good build up to their 200 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,760 relationship. He literally her mother on the 201 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,360 show was really super Christian and really strict. 202 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,280 So he would perform like Christian music at all their 203 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,680 family functions and. That's sad. 204 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:12,920 Weren't we talking about this in our group message the other day 205 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:19,240 about how TV's so imperfect that way, like the actors, can just 206 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,880 influence the story like if they leave? 207 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,680 Or I know it stinks out become. Pregnant or something? 208 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,800 They need more of like ironclad contracts with actors. 209 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,680 We need to lock them in there. Yeah, I know that will come up 210 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:40,120 later in the episode for sure. And I'm definitely going to talk 211 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,720 a lot about the OCI. Hope that's OK. 212 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,920 But they dated just during though, see, like within the 213 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,480 show, they didn't date after or anything. 214 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:52,760 So I know. So it's really entrenched in 215 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,440 that. But I wanted to do something 216 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,960 kind of weird. We don't usually do this, but I 217 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,880 wanted to play a clip from the show that has Rachel Bilson and 218 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,760 Adam Brody in it as their characters. 219 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,480 Seth Conan, Summer Roberts. I know usually we just have like 220 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,000 interviews of the real people. Obviously they're acting here, 221 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,920 so this isn't who they are, but I just want to show like how 222 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,880 they were and why people loved them. 223 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,800 So this is, again, if you like, If you think you're going to 224 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,000 watch it and that if season one stuff is like a spoiler to you, 225 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,440 then maybe Fast forward a couple minutes. 226 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:29,600 But this takes away in season one after Seth and Summer have 227 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,720 slept together for the first time. 228 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,280 And I don't even think they're like officially boyfriend and 229 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,360 girlfriend or anything. But they that happened and then 230 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,880 they talk about it. And this is the second clip I 231 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,400 sent you, Mel Cohen. Summer. 232 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:50,440 Hey. Hey. 233 00:13:54,040 --> 00:14:01,000 No. The other night when we had sex, 234 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,360 yeah, you weren't the only virgin in the room. 235 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,200 There's someone else in the room. 236 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:14,960 Like, like the only nuts. Me, Chagas, I'm a virgin or I 237 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:21,040 was a virgin? Why didn't you tell me? 238 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:28,360 I don't know what I guess I felt like I had this reputation to 239 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,280 uphold and I figured you'd think less of me or something. 240 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,440 No, are you kidding? Not at all. 241 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:35,840 I'm just. I'm shocked. 242 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,920 God, never in a million years. I think that you of all people, 243 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,880 not the, that is not what's important here. 244 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,160 This was a huge moment in both our lives. 245 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,120 We just blew past it. Really, really quickly. 246 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,720 Hey, not that quickly. Pretty quickly, yes. 247 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,280 And it was a big deal. I think that it should have been 248 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:06,280 special and we rushed it. What if we were to slow it down 249 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:11,760 a little bit? Maybe start from the beginning? 250 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,960 What? Do you mean 251 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,400 you are so? Cheesy Cowan. 252 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,400 Come on, I'm sweeping you off your feet. 253 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:42,440 Come on, the sad part is you kind of are. 254 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,440 That was so cute. I don't know. 255 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,400 How old are they supposed to be? Like, I never get these teen 256 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,800 shows where they're embarrassed about being a virgin. 257 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,200 Like, when would you have lost your Virginia? 258 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,440 I know, 1314. I know this is the age when 259 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,840 you're supposed to be or not the age when you're supposed to. 260 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,600 But I know. I think, OK, I think they're. 261 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,320 Supposed to be juniors, but then a really weird thing happens 262 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,720 where season 2, you think that they would have been ending high 263 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,760 school, but then they don't. And then season 3, they're still 264 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,520 in high school. So then retroactively, you think 265 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,360 that season one maybe they were sophomores? 266 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,720 Oh, they always do that on TV. Which makes no sense, I know. 267 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,520 Like That 70s Show. There's like seven seasons and 268 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,480 there's like a Thanksgiving episode and Christmas every 269 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,920 season, but the show starts with 1976 or something. 270 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,960 So how did this take place over four years? 271 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,160 I hate that CTV. It's just a mess sometimes. 272 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,360 They just can't keep it together. 273 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,160 There's like too many people working on it. 274 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,600 Yeah, it's not perfect. Too much personnel changes. 275 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,160 Yeah, I It's always bugged me with a lot of like CW type of 276 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,960 shows that it almost seems like in the later seasons. 277 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,040 It sometimes seems like the staff writers didn't watch the 278 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,200 earlier episodes or. Something I know, I feel like 279 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,160 they they really should hold themselves to a higher standard. 280 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,359 Like if you set a rule in ATV show, I think you have to stick 281 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,400 to it. Like how they changed Uncle 282 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,319 Jesse's last name in full house. You can't do that. 283 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:22,400 Oh my God. I know you. 284 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:24,680 Established. They have to. 285 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,359 There should be like a book somewhere in the writers room. 286 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,880 Exactly. OK Everybody's family. 287 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,560 Like, yeah, How What's their mom's name? 288 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,080 You know, like we need to remember everybody's details 289 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,400 because it's so annoying how they get it wrong. 290 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,080 This is a good question that we should ask the audience. 291 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:46,240 Like what are TV continuity errors or things that always 292 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,880 bothered you from a TV show? Again, not to go back to that 293 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,600 70s Show, but in the early seasons Donna had a sister and 294 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,560 then later on she's an only child. 295 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,520 Just so I hate when she was. Well, that's an issue on the OC. 296 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,400 On the OC as well, Adam's character Seth, his mom the 297 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,240 dates and mom and dad the dates of like how old they are make 298 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,960 absolutely no sense. Like she she supposedly like 299 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,320 went to school and did all this, but then she has her 40th 300 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,760 birthday. So then it's like, wait a 301 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,240 second, how is she like the mother of an 18 year old? 302 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,480 Like, it's just it just doesn't. Make sense? 303 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,360 That makes no sense that she would have had to be a Teen Mom. 304 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,480 Yeah. Shows always do that. 305 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:28,600 Teen shows always do that. I want their parents to be 306 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,040 really young for some reason. I remember in Hannah Montana, 307 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,160 Billy Ray, his character turned 40 in one episode. 308 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,120 Like what? He's been in his 30s this whole 309 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:41,000 time, raising a teenage pop star. 310 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:46,320 I don't think so, yeah. Yeah, we should ask people that 311 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,920 because it drives me crazy. And I'm sure people will point 312 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,640 out ones that I've never even thought of. 313 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,120 That's Seth and somewhere. But those aren't real people. 314 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:57,280 Who is Rachel Bilson and Adam Brody? 315 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,880 If I had to describe this couple in three words, I chose 316 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,360 California. Have to Jealous? 317 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,480 Oh. And domestic? 318 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:13,360 OK. I put the Dark One in the middle 319 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:17,960 this time. OK, Rachel Bilson. 320 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,400 Rachel Sarah Bilson. As we said, she's known for 321 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:26,120 playing Summer on OC and Heart of Dixie and couple other films 322 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:29,680 and TV projects. She, in case you have no idea 323 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,520 what she looks like, she's a short brunette with brown eyes. 324 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:38,280 She is pretty upbeat, seems silly, She's seemingly forgetful 325 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,680 person. She's into fashion, but she also 326 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,080 seems pretty down to earth to me. 327 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:45,320 I I don't know if that's a correct assessment, but that's 328 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,720 just what I'm getting. She was born August 25th, 1981 329 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,000 in Los Angeles. She is the daughter of Janice 330 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:00,320 Dango, a therapist, and her father, Danny Bilson, a film 331 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,360 writer, director and producer. Oh, Nepo. 332 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,640 Yep, she's in the bit. I mean, he's in the business. 333 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,120 And it's funny, he actually created the 1990 TV show The 334 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:17,840 Flash, which is based on the DC Comics, and he's also written 335 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,040 some comic books, which is so such as a coincidence because 336 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,120 Seth Cohen, her love interest and Adam Brody's character on 337 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:28,200 OC, is a huge comic book nerd. So it's just interesting that 338 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,080 her dad seemingly is a comic book nerd too. 339 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,840 And her dad has also written scripts for video games. 340 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,920 And guess what? What he helped create The Sims. 341 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,400 I knew you were going to say that as soon as you said what? 342 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,640 Oh my God. That's, like, the only video 343 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,000 game we ever. Played that. 344 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,840 That is, besides like Mario Kart but The Sims. 345 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,880 I have been in such a mood to play The Sims lately. 346 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:55,840 Me. Too. 347 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,640 That's such a sign. Well, you know, I never got The 348 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,760 Sims 4, but recently I've been considering it well. 349 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,760 But when is the? God knows I don't even know 350 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,280 timing. Out. 351 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,400 I know. That's the thing. 352 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,200 When I get into The Sims, I don't just play a little. 353 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,400 I have to play all night long. I have to play until I nearly 354 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,360 pee my pants because I'm too lazy to get up. 355 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,760 It takes over your life. I know it's 3:00 AM and I'm 356 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,400 still playing it. I think he only helped with Sims 357 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,080 one, but we played it. You know, we we did it. 358 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,640 That's an early 2000s. Thing. 359 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,280 Yeah. What an influence on our lives. 360 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,280 I know. Thank you, Danny Bilson. 361 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,800 And guess what? His father was a director. 362 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,920 He directed shows like Bewitched and Get Smart. 363 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,360 So get Smart. So she's a third generation? 364 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:51,040 Hollywood professional We should make that a part of our drinking 365 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,320 game. Take a drink every time someone, 366 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,120 yes someone's parents, is in the business. 367 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,240 Yeah, I mean, I feel like, you know, they all still had to work 368 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,400 hard, I think. But, you know, they definitely 369 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,640 had connections, Yeah, that other people don't. 370 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,160 They say the hardest part is getting your foot in the door, 371 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,400 so. Yeah, Yep, they do. 372 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,600 She has an older brother. Her mother is Catholic and her 373 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,800 father's Jewish, so she grew up in a Christmica household just 374 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:27,040 like the OC and Rachel's parents got divorced when she was nine 375 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,560 years old and her dad remarried 7 years later and had two more 376 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,080 daughters with his second wife. So she has two younger sisters 377 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,360 too. For some reason I feel creepy, 378 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:38,960 like if she listened to this I'd feel so creepy being like yeah, 379 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,480 when you got remarried 7 years later. 380 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,360 I know all of this. I just looked at his Wikipedia 381 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:48,040 and saw like when he married the other wife. 382 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:54,600 But I read in a news article that when Rachel was 16, she's 383 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,640 apparently hanging out with the wrong crowd and an unsuitable 384 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,840 boyfriend and she was in a horrific car accident with her 385 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,360 friends and boyfriend. She said I was with my 386 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,160 girlfriend and these two guys driving down the Pacific Coast 387 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,440 Highway. We were going really fast and we 388 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,720 were involved in a head on collision with a truck. 389 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,200 We were in a tiny car and it was pretty bad crash. 390 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,200 They had to cut us out and I was in a coma for a few days. 391 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,200 The yeah, the crash ended that relationship, which is a good 392 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,560 thing. Oh my God, that is. 393 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,560 Awful. I couldn't believe she's. 394 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,760 Lucky that she's here. I know. 395 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,160 Seriously, that's amazing. She's and I've that. 396 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,240 Yeah I've read that because of her injury and the coma that she 397 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:44,640 has kind of memory problems which would explain a lot 398 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:50,040 because OK, in the present day, in the recent present time, she 399 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,600 and her Co star from the OC, Melinda Clark, they created a OC 400 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,680 rewatch podcast called Welcome to the OC Bitches. 401 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,440 And I listen to it and Rachel doesn't remember anything from 402 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,640 the OC like pretty much nothing. Like every time they talk about 403 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,000 an episode she she it's kind of, I feel bad like she had this car 404 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,440 accident. Like it seems like it's a real 405 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,480 problem but it's a little frustrating as a listener 406 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,920 because you want to hear about you know behind the scenes 407 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,200 stories and she just doesn't remember anything. 408 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,480 Oh my. Gosh. 409 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:24,960 I like that. I know that. 410 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,160 Would be kind of sad to like forget such. 411 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,560 I know huge. Chunks of your life, especially 412 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,840 when you're in your young 20s. Yeah, I wish that she mentioned 413 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,360 it on the podcast because I didn't know that when I was 414 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:41,440 listening to the podcast I was a little bit like, jeez, does she 415 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,320 just not care? Like, why doesn't she remember 416 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,480 anything but? Yeah, that would explain. 417 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,880 It's probably because of that. Yeah, that must be so weird. 418 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,320 Does she remember like the feelings? 419 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,160 She, I mean, she does remember some things and it seems like 420 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,280 she remem OK, this is me just this is me speculating and 421 00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:00,760 analyzing. But she seems to remember a lot 422 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,680 of things with Adam Brody, so I feel like it's just the 423 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,560 emotional thing she remembers. And then it seems like the work 424 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,160 she doesn't remember that well. Which makes sense. 425 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,360 I mean, honestly, I can't. I don't remember things from 426 00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:20,800 like my retail job 10 years ago. That's true. 427 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,840 That's significant. But if I couldn't take you back 428 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,320 to like, a day when I had a certain task or something and I 429 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,560 had to do it like, yeah, when we were an actor, in a way, it's 430 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,400 kind of just your job. And TV, especially these network 431 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,280 TV shows of the early 2000s, they had so many episodes. 432 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,240 They were working every day for most of the year. 433 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,280 Like, I can understand why you wouldn't remember specific days, 434 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,960 because they could all just blur together. 435 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,080 Yeah, exactly. During high school, she did 436 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,040 theater. Rami Malek actually went to her 437 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,640 school and acted with her, and they were friends. 438 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,600 Oh, wow. And it's kind of funny because 439 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,000 in the present she, she's talked about this, She apparently 440 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,440 posted an old picture of her, Rami Malek, on Instagram, and he 441 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,880 asked her to take it down. What's Why I don't? 442 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,040 I think he just didn't like how he looked or something. 443 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,320 Wait, I OK. I feel like I would never do 444 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,960 that. Like people have attacked me and 445 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:17,920 hid. I know this. 446 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,200 Before. I would still never say can you 447 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,760 please remove this because if someone did that to me I would 448 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,120 like be mortified. I don't know. 449 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,000 I know I would like cry I. Would feel so bad because it's 450 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,920 like I'm posting it because I'm so proud of the fact that I know 451 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,200 you. And you want me to remove? 452 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,800 It I know that's kind of vain of him. 453 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,040 I know, I'm sure the. Picture is still online I kind 454 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:41,720 of want. To look it up. 455 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,080 Yeah, I bet it. That's funny. 456 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,760 So she told people that. Yeah, I don't know why that's. 457 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:49,840 So funny. Yeah, it's. 458 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,560 Hey, she's. Like, kind of a big mouth she 459 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,600 does. Oh, I guess he. 460 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,040 Was a little because like also. On He's a little chubby. 461 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:03,680 He's chubby. Yeah, but hey, come on. 462 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,520 Do you think I didn't even look at the picture? 463 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,480 Do you think it's OK? Or do you think like she should 464 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,200 have known better? No, I mean, he's chubby and in 465 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,520 like a cute way. It's just he's younger. 466 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,920 He looks honestly. Yeah, I mean. 467 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,400 Different. Maybe he didn't want people to 468 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,720 know that he used to be a little chubby. 469 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,920 Maybe. Who cares? 470 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,600 Like, come on. I know for the OC she attended 471 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,680 Community College in San Diego while pursuing acting, but she 472 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,400 only did a semester. Take a drink. 473 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,200 Take a drink. She appeared in several 474 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,960 commercials and had one episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and 475 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,360 was on the show 8 Simple Rules for Dating My Teenage Daughter. 476 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,840 So just a couple little things. And then she learned the role of 477 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:53,200 the bitchy popular high school girl Summer Roberts on The OC, 478 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,160 which first aired in 2003. Her character was initially just 479 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,600 supposed to be a supporting role. 480 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,800 I think in the first episode she only has like 2 lines or 481 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,880 something. But then she became a series 482 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,280 regular as her romance with Seth Cohen, played by Adam Brody, 483 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:14,160 became a significant plot. OK, who's Adam Brody? 484 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:21,080 Oh guys, he has always been one of my celebrity crushes so much. 485 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:25,360 I hope my boyfriend isn't listening to this, huh? 486 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,480 Adam. Jared Brody is his full name. 487 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,960 He's on the OC, but he's also been in things like Mr. and Mrs. 488 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,600 Smith in the land of women. Mel, I feel like we need to 489 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,440 watch that someday. Yeah, I think you have seen it. 490 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,640 It's I have, but it was. I was like in middle school or 491 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,040 something or high school. It was like a wicked long time 492 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,480 ago. Kristen Stewart and Meg Ryan, 493 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,320 that's and Adam Brody. It's like perfect for us. 494 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,640 It's crazy. Jennifer's Body. 495 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,120 He was also recently in promising young woman and he's 496 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,080 on the show. Fleshman is in trouble, which 497 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,240 I've heard is good. And so, yeah, you guys might 498 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,360 have seen him around. He's also been in several bands 499 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,360 and writes screenplays and songs in his free time. 500 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,680 Adam is a very smart, aleck wise guy type of guy and he 501 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,400 definitely brought a lot of that to Seth. 502 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,000 He's a fast talker and he's very quick to make a joke and sort of 503 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,320 unlike Seth though, at least when he was young, I'm not sure 504 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,400 if he's like this still, but he was very confident and self 505 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,640 assured in his early 20s, Yeah. And I think today he seems a 506 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,080 little more subdued and kind of embarrassed about his past self. 507 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,040 But yeah, he seems very confident. 508 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,440 I mean, he's such a good. Looking guy I can see why he I 509 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,960 know then. Yeah, but he's he's really not 510 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,240 this like meek, shy, nervous guy, you would think because of 511 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:55,320 Seth Cohen. And he seems like A, at least at 512 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,320 this time period, he seemed really cool, like almost too 513 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,440 cool, like intimidating, you know, like he knows all the 514 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,160 obscure bands and movies and he's really confident and makes 515 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,800 jokes. And I don't know, that's that's 516 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,760 Adam Brody. He was born December 15th, 1979 517 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,920 in San Diego, CA. His mother, Valerie, was a 518 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,600 graphic artist and his dad, Mark Allen Brody, was an attorney. 519 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,120 And he has two younger brothers, Sean and Matthew. 520 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,080 Mel has a brother Sean, his family's Jewish, which is like 521 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,400 Seth Cohen and Rachel have to wish. 522 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,120 And he had a bar mitzvah, apparently, but against his 523 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,080 will. And in school, I guess Adam 524 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,120 received poor grades and was just really into surfing. 525 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,960 Surfing was like his life. And it's funny, I listened to an 526 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,800 episode on Pod Crushed. This was like a month or two 527 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:58,360 ago, Penn Badgley's podcast, and he had Adam Brody on and it was 528 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,920 kind of crazy because they were like, I feel like we're the same 529 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:07,360 person because Penn Badgley was on Gossip Girl and that's 530 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,600 created by the same people that created The OC. 531 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,520 And both Seth and Penn's character, OK, all the names are 532 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,920 confusing me. The character Seth Cohen and the 533 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,160 character Dan Humphrey, they are kind of similar. 534 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,880 They're like bookish, shy, nerdy, whatever. 535 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,320 And they were just like, it's crazy to be talking to you. 536 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,080 Like, I feel like we're the same person. 537 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,000 They said they're both versions of Josh Schwartz, the, like, the 538 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,520 TV creator. And OK, then it gets crazier 539 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,200 because Dan OK, the names are confusing me. 540 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:49,440 Penn Badgley's dated. You guys get what I'm saying? 541 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,720 Penn Badgley dated. Blair Waldorf, well, character 542 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,040 Blair, played by Leighton Meester, who's now married to 543 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,960 Adam Brody. Yes, dated. 544 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,320 And she was like the bitchy girl. 545 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,560 She was the bitchy girl, which is kind of like Rachel's 546 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,800 character. Yeah. 547 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,600 He like the alternate universe. He basically married the 548 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,760 alternate universe girl of his own show. 549 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,120 Yeah, literally The New York version, The New York version of 550 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,160 his show, OK, that was, like, hard to get out. 551 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,960 Yeah. But on that podcast Adam was 552 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,720 talking about, for whatever reason, he went to kind of a bad 553 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,440 high school or bad middle school and that there were a lot, 554 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,840 there's a lot of violence and fighting. 555 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,040 And that one of his friends actually died in high school. 556 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,240 I think he went overdosed and just sounds like he was in kind 557 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:48,080 of a like skins euphoria type of like kind of scary situations. 558 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,280 It sounded like he was kind of scared and there was a lot of 559 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,880 people being beaten up and I don't, I don't know why, but 560 00:32:53,880 --> 00:33:00,400 that was like what he described as his youth but also having fun 561 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,720 surfing. And I don't know, it just seems 562 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,800 like he wasn't like taking school that seriously or 563 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,360 anything, just like Rachel he, he attended Community College. 564 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,560 He did it for one year and then he dropped out at age 19 and he 565 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,560 moved to Hollywood to become an actor. 566 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,080 And in Hollywood he worked as a Blockbuster video clerk. 567 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,320 He had a couple small roles and then he had a reoccurring role 568 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,720 in Gilmore Girls, as we said. And then in 2003, he was cast in 569 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,120 his breakout role as Seth Cohen on The OC. 570 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,960 And there's been a lot of talk about how when he auditioned he 571 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,760 came in and he was a post audition for Seth, but he read 572 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,240 for Ryan, the other male lead. And then he like ad libbed his 573 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,800 lines and was obnoxious and disrespectful to the writing. 574 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,120 And Josh Schwartz, the creator was like pissed and didn't like 575 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,120 him and thought he was arrogant. But then the casting director 576 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,000 for some reason really liked him and brought him back and this 577 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,680 time he actually read his lines and then the creators like Josh 578 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,080 and Stephanie Savage thought he was amazing and cast him. 579 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,960 So right from the beginning he was like a little bit of a know 580 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,320 it all and smart Alec. And from the beginning too, he 581 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,679 was skeptical about being on a high school show 'cause he was 582 00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:20,920 already in his early 20s. But he thought the script was 583 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,880 good, so he signed on to the OC and that's where he met Rachel 584 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,480 Bilson. But yeah. 585 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,360 Apparently, they already knew each other. 586 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,639 Is that a drink? It's not, but we could make it 587 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,960 1. How did they know each other? 588 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,120 They already knew. Each other. 589 00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,960 So my sister Shannon got this book for Christmas calls. 590 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,120 Welcome to the OC, The Oral History. 591 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,440 And I skimmed through it and just took pictures of everything 592 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,840 that I thought was relevant. And so I got this from this 593 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,840 book. Rachel said I knew Brody before 594 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,200 because he had casually dated one of my friends. 595 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,240 Casually. I think I thought he was cute 596 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:04,040 and funny, but he was dating my friend and he was around, and I 597 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,720 don't know if I thought much beyond that. 598 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,000 I was dating someone when we started the show, so it wasn't 599 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,040 immediately. Oh, I like this guy that grew 600 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,320 into itself. But I always thought he was cool 601 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,680 and funny. I just thought he was a little 602 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,160 bit of a Dick at times. But that's just his sense of 603 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,160 humor before I really knew him. And then I realized that that 604 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,240 was just his charm. Yeah, that is interesting. 605 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,680 I mean she, she emphasizes. Like casually? 606 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,120 Yeah, I I take her at her word. I mean, I have some friends who 607 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,360 have dated people and it's like they don't even really remember 608 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,800 them and it's no big deal, but depends depends on how much it 609 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,840 meant to the friend. Yeah, I know. 610 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,360 I'm so curious now. I you never know. 611 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,840 The friend might have been like it's mine, or the friend might 612 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,720 have been like, what the fuck? I want to have went on two dates 613 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:52,280 with a guy. This might sound terrible and I 614 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,480 didn't really feel a connection, but I was like kind of could 615 00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,320 picture him with my friend and so I like, rejected him. 616 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,440 But I said, you know what? I actually think he'd be a great 617 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,720 match for one of my best friends. 618 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,560 And I set them up and they went on a couple of dates, didn't go 619 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,560 anywhere but like it was like. Why would that be bad? 620 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,840 That. That's awesome. 621 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,560 I is it. I think that's what you should 622 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,960 do. Yeah, I know exactly. 623 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,600 I was like, you know, you're a really great guy. 624 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,880 I think, like, honestly, I could picture you dating one of my 625 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,720 good friends. You seem to have fun. 626 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,720 I think some people, I think some people might take that 627 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:27,640 offensive like they're like, no, I want to date you. 628 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,960 You must really not like me if you're trying to set me up, but 629 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,520 it should be a compliment if you think someone's good enough to 630 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,120 date your friend. Yeah, no, I feel like I've read 631 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,440 that, I don't know, advice in magazines before or something 632 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,920 where they're like, set them up with your friend. 633 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,800 Like maybe that was the deal with. 634 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,720 I mean, obviously they would have gotten the chance to get to 635 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:53,200 know each other really well, playing love interest on the TV 636 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,680 show. And if your friend just, you 637 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,600 know, went on a couple dates with him a couple like couple 638 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,960 years ago, he really cares, especially if they're totally 639 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,800 moved on. But yeah, maybe the friend was 640 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,200 like, go for it. Hopefully, yeah. 641 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,360 And so she was talking about how he was kind of a Dick. 642 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,920 But that's just a sense of humor. 643 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,280 And apparently before they really knew each other, because 644 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,560 on, you know, at the beginning of the show, she she was a minor 645 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,360 character, she only had a couple lines, Adam joked to her on on 646 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,840 the set. Well, you're lower on the totem 647 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,120 pole than me. Oh my God. 648 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,480 And I know which like, technically, yeah, that is true. 649 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,520 But people usually don't say stuff like that. 650 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,480 Yeah. So that's just an example of his 651 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,440 sense of humor. And it's kind of weird. 652 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,200 There's actually, it's it was like a known thing that Adam had 653 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,480 this joking asshole way about him, but it was just a joke. 654 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,400 And as a promotion for the show, they did like this segment on 655 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,600 MTV about The OC and there's this segment that's just about 656 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,480 Adam Brody and how he's a Dick and I'm going to play a clip. 657 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,880 Glamorous and just a regular jeans and AT shirt kind of get 658 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,040 out. I think he's about ready to 659 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,160 leave, yeah. I'll call you Girl Slayer, all 660 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,440 right. Good times. 661 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,200 Once Adam arrives to work on his scooter, he gets a shave, some 662 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,440 makeup and then deals with wardrobe problems. 663 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,400 I like it, but it's a little, it's a little pokey in the neck 664 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,480 and I don't know if that if we can do something with that. 665 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,320 Hey, I got you your. Child. 666 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,360 Oh awesome. Thanks a lot. 667 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,680 I ordered a grand. The man knows what he wants, and 668 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,240 apparently he doesn't like being interrupted while he's trying to 669 00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:39,720 get it. Yeah dude, if like you didn't 670 00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:41,240 have a boyfriend. Or even if you did and you 671 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,200 didn't want. To tell him, I told. 672 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,480 You that I don't think. Can I talk to you? 673 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,800 Can I? Recheck your marks over here. 674 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,800 Please dude, check this Toby. Well, it can't all be fun and 675 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,200 games. He had to take a break to 676 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,000 rehearse a scene with Rachel Bilson. 677 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,000 You are extorting the county, exposing the company to Huge No. 678 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,640 Is that how you're going to do it? 679 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,680 No, that's fine. I just no, no, no, it's good. 680 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,080 It's good. It's It's getting there. 681 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,920 I just didn't know. OK, great. 682 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,040 Now I know. Let's do it again. 683 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,280 OK, you were extorting the county, exposing the company. 684 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,920 There's just this thing you're doing with your eye and it's 685 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,520 it's just, it's fine, but it's just it looks a little lazy. 686 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,320 Come on, America's watching. Get in the game. 687 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,040 All right, let's go again. You were extorting the county, 688 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,080 exposing the company. I'm good, thanks. 689 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,360 But every day must come to an end and Adam does it with style. 690 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,600 It says it's not a cow, that's a chicken. 691 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,920 Anyways, I hope I didn't bore you guys too much. 692 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,120 I hope you had a good time. I hope it wasn't too anti 693 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,480 climactic. And thanks for checking us out. 694 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,280 I feel like I knew a lot of guys like him in high school who were 695 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,560 just a ham and always, yeah, yeah, a lot of those things were 696 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,800 visual. But the Chai latte, he threw it 697 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,960 away. He pushed this man in a pool. 698 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,000 He's like, it starts. He's in a bathtub getting his 699 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,840 nails buffed by someone. Yeah, someone gives him a latte 700 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,520 and he throws it across the parking lot. 701 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,120 It's obviously a joke, but it seems like it there was some 702 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,560 truth to it that he actually did joke around like that. 703 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,280 And then they had the idea to, I don't know, make a skit about 704 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,920 it. And it's OK. 705 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,680 It's interesting because there was this part in that video 706 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,520 where there's this girl. She was on the OC. 707 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,840 She played a girl named Anna. The actress's name is Samira. 708 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,280 He says, like if you don't have, if you didn't have a boyfriend, 709 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,080 we could blah blah blah. And she says, I told you that's 710 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,920 not a good idea. It's good because that's going 711 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,040 to come up later. Actually. 712 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:42,000 There's like a real thing with that here, that it's in this 713 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,600 little I know. Wait, who is that girl that he's 714 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,480 like talking to? So she she was on the OC as kind 715 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,480 of a minor role or like a reoccurring star. 716 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,320 She played Anna and Seth. Cohen was in kind of a love 717 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,960 triangle with her and Rachel's character. 718 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,120 Oh my God. And so in this little bit, she 719 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,480 is a boyfriend, but like, he's still trying to get with her. 720 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,840 OK. Wow. 721 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:12,200 OK, and she did in real life. And I guess I'll just say it 722 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,760 now, but it'll come up later that that Rachel was actually 723 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,240 jealous of her, I guess. So. 724 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,640 There was like stuff going on. And at that point in this clip, 725 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,240 were Rachel and Seth dating? I don't think so. 726 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:32,240 I'm sorry, not Seth. Adam Yeah, I know. 727 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,680 Yeah, yeah, we can call them entertained, Rachel. 728 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,880 Slash summer, Adam, Slash said. Yeah, so I just thought that was 729 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,680 funny about meeting Rachel Bilson. 730 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,600 Adam said she was super funny, super loose. 731 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,760 Obviously we got along very well, so just very comfortable. 732 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,880 I think the dynamic was fun. I knew her only a little before. 733 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,840 My first strong memory of her is shooting an early episode, 734 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,280 sitting next to each other and talking for a while. 735 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,440 And she showed me her iPod and explained to me what it was and 736 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,200 how to work it. Yeah, they didn't date right 737 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,920 away and she said she was dating somebody else initially. 738 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,920 I don't know what happened to that relationship. 739 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,720 I guess it just ended naturally. And Adam said very early on, 740 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:17,440 maybe two or three weeks after the show premiered, I remember 741 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,680 someone grabbing me and hooking up with me. 742 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,640 And right after, she said, welcome to Hollywood. 743 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,880 That could seem gross, but I remember it being very innocent 744 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,320 and joyful and to never have been repeated. 745 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,040 That was the only time I've heard that she was older than 746 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,560 me. So sounds like he was like 747 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,800 having fun. And the ladies want him. 748 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,480 Yeah, the ladies want him. They really do. 749 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,960 And interestingly he so he was in a band at this time and Jonah 750 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,520 Hill played keyboards in it briefly. 751 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,360 And I know so random. And Adam said that because of 752 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,840 the show they actually attracted people and could like sell out 753 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,800 shows because people wanted to see Seth Cohen in a band. 754 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:05,840 And Rachel has said just about the OC and doing with him. 755 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,760 She said I had to attribute all my confidence as an actor and 756 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,600 doing scenes and everything else to Brody. 757 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,640 He really taught me how to do it and it was the best lesson. 758 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,200 Working with him was a gift because of how much confidence 759 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,760 he gave me. Just believing and doing what 760 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,600 you want to do and really going for it. 761 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,560 And it was always fun doing a scene with him. 762 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,240 So that's her like today saying that. 763 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,280 But she has said that many times that like she owes everything to 764 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,400 him for her acting, which is a lot. 765 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,240 But then when did when did they start dating? 766 00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:36,600 Like when did the feelings start? 767 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,320 Rachel said. I remember she she has shared a 768 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:48,560 lot about this, she shared a lot in that book and she has shared 769 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,400 a lot on the podcast, she said. I remember after shooting the 770 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,600 scene where I kiss him, which by the way is season one, episode 771 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,720 6, for anybody wondering, The scene where I kissed him, I 772 00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:01,320 remember thinking, do I like Adam? 773 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,840 And I remember thinking after work because I feel like it was 774 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,560 the last scene I shot that day being like, wait, do I like 775 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,560 Adam? That's when those wheels started 776 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,360 turning. Oh, we've all had those moments 777 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,240 when we're like, wait a minute, do I like this person? 778 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,040 Yeah, it's it's hard. Once those wheels start turning, 779 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,000 it is hard to turn around. Oh, and it was very hard to turn 780 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,440 around. Sometimes impossible. 781 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,680 Yeah. Almost impossible to stop. 782 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,000 Yeah, everybody. Everybody. 783 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,880 OK, maybe not everybody, but lots of people had crushes on 784 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,440 Adam Brody. Even the woman who played his 785 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,640 mom, Kelly Rowan, the actress, said that she was crushing on 786 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:49,200 him while rewatching the show. And he told GQ back then, girls 787 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,680 always want a hug and I'm not a very huggy person. 788 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,880 I'll be standing at the Grove, which is a mall in LA, and there 789 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,600 will be an assembly line of girls who all want an embrace 790 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,480 like I'm Santa. And Rachel mentioned a story 791 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,160 about Nikki Hilton wanting to meet him at a club. 792 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,000 So people were really attracted to him. 793 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,480 And it's just funny because on the show they act like he's this 794 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,040 loser. So. 795 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,120 Nobody likes, but everybody fell for him. 796 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,080 TV shows always. Do that because they'll never 797 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,560 cast like an actual loser for those parts. 798 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,440 Apparently their feelings for each other slowly grew while 799 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,000 filming season one, but especially so she said that she 800 00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:34,040 started thinking about it episode 6. 801 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,480 And then she also said, especially after filming the 802 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,640 infamous Tijuana episode, which is episode 7, and she said it's 803 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,840 this weird thing, you have to kiss somebody and then you're 804 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,840 like, wait a minute, does this mean something? 805 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,560 So I don't really know, like what things happened after this. 806 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,080 I mean, they were all hanging out a lot. 807 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,760 I'm guessing going out. And I'm guessing they just, you 808 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,240 know, they got together, they kissed, I don't know, I don't 809 00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:03,520 know what happened, But they started dating and everybody on 810 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,040 the set knew and seemed to think they were really cute. 811 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,640 Adam has told a story before about how he bought Rachel. 812 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,840 Now I don't really know this is in the timeline, but he bought 813 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,800 Rachel a Pitbull named Penny for her birthday and Rachel actually 814 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,120 cried because I guess she was overwhelmed and just wasn't 815 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,680 really expecting it and the dog was. 816 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,480 Way too big of a gift to get somebody I. 817 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,000 Know and I think the dog was really more for Adam but they 818 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,800 they kept Penny though so. That's a big gift. 819 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:42,400 I know on the The OC welcome to the OC Bitches Podcast, Josh 820 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,400 Schwartz, who is the OC creator by the way, he he was the, you 821 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,520 know, writer create creator of this show when he was only 26 822 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,120 years old. Oh. 823 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,320 My God, it's. Kind of crazy because they were 824 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,520 like in their early 20s. Yeah, they're too. 825 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,560 He was only like a couple years older. 826 00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,720 Yeah. Yeah. 827 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,840 And people have said that this kind of because he was so young, 828 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,920 it was a great thing because he was able to like relate young 829 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,600 people so well. But also it was kind of bad 830 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,840 because he wanted to be like friends with the stars. 831 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,680 And then he would never, he would never talk to them as the 832 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,160 boss. And so then they became kind of 833 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:25,080 disrespectful in a way. And I feel like it led to kind 834 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:30,320 of a chaotic setting, not too crazy, but we'll get to that 835 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,960 that later. But Josh Schwartz has said that 836 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,760 Adam and Rachel are very much like an old married couple. 837 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,640 And she agreed. And they talked about how Adam 838 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,360 and Rachel would be getting the newspaper and they would go see 839 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,600 matinees and getting bagels. And I don't know, they just 840 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:49,000 seemed like they really quickly clicked and were having a simple 841 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,960 life together. But they still, they still went 842 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,480 out. Like I saw paparazzi videos of 843 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,800 them leaving a club with some other people and people on the 844 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,680 street were yelling oh shit, the OC and they still went out. 845 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,080 But she has said that she's described the relationship many 846 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,640 times as domesticated and how she's thankful that during this 847 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,040 time of being really famous she's with Adam because it 848 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,040 helped her stay grounded and she didn't get pulled into a lot of 849 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,400 the drugs and partying going on at the time in LA. 850 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,080 And I almost feel like I don't know if this is intentional, but 851 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,560 her saying that is kind of a dig at Mischa Barton, her costar, 852 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,760 because she hung out a lot with Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan 853 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,160 and all those people and everybody knew it. 854 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,480 And so it's interesting that Rachel has many times said, 855 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,640 yeah, I didn't party and stuff like that, like I was just with 856 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,760 Adam, so. Yeah, I mean, that would kind of 857 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,240 bother me if I was Mischa Barton. 858 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:45,920 It's like, oh, I was in a relationship. 859 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:52,000 So yeah, I don't know. I know they have a weird 860 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,240 relationship for sure. Her and Misha. 861 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,360 As the show went on, everybody became really tired. 862 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,440 The seasons were super long and the network was really pushing 863 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,200 them. Fox ordered 27 episodes for 864 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,800 season. Oh my God, that would never 865 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,760 happen nowadays. I know 27 shows are like never 866 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,400 and they were like 10 episodes. I know. 867 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,400 And they were 16 to 18 hour days and they burned through the plot 868 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,320 really fast. Like so much happened since 869 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:28,480 season one that later on, because they already did so 870 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,920 much, it started to get a little bit ridiculous. 871 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:36,000 You know, with the breaking up back and forth and then 872 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,360 introducing all these random sorry characters. 873 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,840 And you know, it just it's hard to get a little bit soap opera 874 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,720 esque because there were so many. 875 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,040 What else can you do? Yeah, and Rachel has talked 876 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,080 about this really crazy schedule. 877 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,440 And she said I was 21 years old and had no real 878 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,480 responsibilities, so it was fine. 879 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:55,880 You work all year long, essentially. 880 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,160 But at that age, and my boyfriend was on the show, it 881 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,000 was way easier for me because a lot of my life was there. 882 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,640 Looking back at it, it's absolutely it's absolute 883 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,360 insanity. I could never do that now. 884 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,360 And on The OC, Adam's character Seth. 885 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,440 As I mentioned a little bit before, he had a love triangle 886 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,680 with Rachel's character Summer and then this girl Anna, who is 887 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:23,040 this quirky alternative type who really Seth had a lot more in 888 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,040 common with Anna probably, And in season one, Rachel's 889 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,680 character treats him horribly and talks down to him and acts 890 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,600 like he's a loser that should be honored to be in her presence. 891 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:39,800 But still, he loves Rachel's character Summer, so he's in 892 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,440 this love triangle. And Rachel has talked about how 893 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,960 she had some jealousy towards the girl who played Anna who's 894 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,320 named Samira Armstrong. And Rachel said in the OC oral 895 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:54,040 history book, I knew SOB Samira before the show. 896 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,560 We were always friendly, but I think because of the storyline 897 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,120 and created this weird underlying competitiveness and I 898 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,120 feel like she had a crush on Brody. 899 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,560 She had a boyfriend at the time, but it did feel like sometimes 900 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,680 life imitates art. We were always friends and 901 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,520 friendly, but there was always this weird undertone and 902 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,080 weirdly, Samira agreed. She said there was definitely 903 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,720 that. Not Not necessarily a romantic 904 00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:21,080 triangle going on, but it was a triangle for sure. 905 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,680 Like, oh, there's my friend with my other friend. 906 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,840 They're dating in what? In my third wheel? 907 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,800 But they were the cutest couple. They were so freaking cute. 908 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:35,320 Wow, I admire Rachel's honesty. I know I'm open, but yeah, I get 909 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,760 that she is really long hour days. 910 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,160 I feel like fact and fiction would kind of blur. 911 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,560 And if you're trying to be in your character's mindset and get 912 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:50,360 into the role, like there would, you know, be some tension that 913 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,480 would develop from just competitiveness over like, 914 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,480 honestly, I feel like if I was on ATV show when I was in a love 915 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:02,000 triangle in the show, I would want my character to be the one 916 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,800 that the person, yeah, true. Because otherwise you would feel 917 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,960 like, well, what's wrong with my character? 918 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,840 Like you kind of are your character in a way. 919 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,200 Yeah, yeah. Why don't they pick? 920 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:21,400 Mine, I know, I something that Adam Brody said. 921 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,360 I don't think I included in my notes recently, but he was 922 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:30,520 saying I I think it was maybe in the book, I don't know that you 923 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,960 do get typecast. And of course there are some 924 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,960 actors that can completely transform. 925 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,520 But a lot of times people he was. 926 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,000 This might sound bad because some people play bad people, but 927 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,960 he was saying that some people do get cast because they kind of 928 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,120 are like their characters. And he thinks that he does get 929 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:54,160 cast as people, that he kind of is like, and so I I can get what 930 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,160 you're saying. Like, I think, especially on a 931 00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,280 show and they're all young people, Yeah, I think I would 932 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,240 feel like I want, yeah, I want to win this love triangle, you 933 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,960 know? If your character ends up with 934 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,280 the guy, you kind of get more screen time. 935 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,880 Probably Anyway so. True, yeah. 936 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,160 Anna actually got written off the show eventually. 937 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,040 So. Yep. 938 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,880 It's in a way it might come down to like. 939 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,440 Am I giving a better performance? 940 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:24,440 Yeah, I'm And you want the viewers to love it? 941 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,520 Yeah. Summer 2005 was between seasons 942 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,760 two and three, so seasons one and two were really successful. 943 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,400 And Season 2 was the one that had Olivia Wilde on it. 944 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:44,320 So between the two seasons, you know, Rachel and Mischa were, 945 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,400 even though that there's been reports that they didn't get 946 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,600 along that well. They have been seen out and 947 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,200 about hanging out and they went to see Adam's band perform. 948 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,720 And it's interesting because Mischa Barton that summer filmed 949 00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:02,480 a movie with Hayden Christensen called Decameron, which I find 950 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,160 interesting because of things that happen in the future in 951 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,400 summer. That summer, Rachel and Adam 952 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,200 were seen out and about together with their Pitbull Penny, the 953 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,040 one that Adam got and made Rachel cry. 954 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,800 But they were also separate a lot. 955 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,480 She was filming the last kiss of the Zach Braff and he was 956 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,760 filming in the land of women with Case Do and Meg Ryan. 957 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,280 And so then they come back for Season 3. 958 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,640 And so in the beginning of the show, everybody was super into 959 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,920 it. Everybody in the cast, crew, the 960 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,440 even like the camera guys were reading the scripts, like the 961 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,640 lighting people. Everybody was into it and like 962 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,720 quoting lines and stuff, but because they had burned through 963 00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:43,600 so much plot and because there was so much pressure from the 964 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,000 network and there were too many episodes, like I said, it was 965 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,520 kind of becoming like a soap opera. 966 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,320 And the quality went downhill. And the mood on set on season 967 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,280 three was not great. And Adam Brody was clearly not 968 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,440 enjoying playing a high schooler in season three because again, 969 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,560 they should have been in college by now, but then they just kept 970 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,520 them in high school. So the kids really lacked 971 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,280 enthusiasm. And they they, I think they all 972 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,560 were kind of Divas. Ben McKenzie, who played Ryan. 973 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,560 Anna Brody, Rachel Bilson, Mischa Barton. 974 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,520 I feel like all of them were not acting the best. 975 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:21,960 And Tate Donovan, he played Jimmy Cooper, one of the dads on 976 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,160 the show, and he also dated Jennifer Aniston. 977 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:29,320 Fun fact, he directed a few episodes and he talked about how 978 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,600 the kids didn't even read the scenes. 979 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,480 Like, they had no idea what their lines were and they would 980 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,880 say stuff. Like, yeah, they'd say stuff 981 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,800 like, this is bullshit, man. Like, why am I even saying this? 982 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,280 It's so stupid. And Adam's disengagement and 983 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,440 lack of trying was really palpable. 984 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,800 And it actually inspired the writers to write in the plot 985 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,600 line that Seth got into smoking weed. 986 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,600 Because Josh Warts said how do we explain his lethargy on 987 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,600 screen? Because he was just like, not 988 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,280 talking the way he used to. He was not acting the way he 989 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,240 used to. That's so interesting. 990 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,520 I know that's kind of people do say that. 991 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,640 I know and people say that Rachel always had a good 992 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,120 attitude, but she did once tell Tate Donovan when he was 993 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,960 directing, she said. I don't read lines. 994 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,080 I smoke pot. It's annoying. 995 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,560 It's like, it's like that's the show that made you famous. 996 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,440 And like everything is temporary. 997 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,280 I don't. I don't know. 998 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,120 I get getting sick of any job and maybe you feel stuck and 999 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,920 you're like, I don't give a fuck, but like, yeah, an actor 1000 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,560 is such a luxurious job. Well, an actor at that level to 1001 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,120 be on TV, probably making a good amount of money. 1002 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,400 Mm hmm. So many people would kill. 1003 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,160 Us. I know. 1004 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:41,600 Position. Yeah. 1005 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,120 It was upsetting to me, especially, you know, Adam Brody 1006 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,280 was always like a somebody crush of mine. 1007 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,280 And reading about this and I was like, oh, I also kind of 1008 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,960 annoyed. It's really admirable when 1009 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,640 actors still give it their all even when they're not. 1010 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,520 As into the subject matter, guys, I, you know, I hate to say 1011 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:07,160 this, You know, I hate to say it, but you know what I'm going 1012 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,800 to say? Yeah, yeah, I don't know if 1013 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,000 Robert Pattinson. Yeah, I don't know if he was 1014 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,040 super into Twilight. Once we get to Breaking Dawn. 1015 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,080 But you better believe that he gave his all in that 1016 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,360 performance. I don't think he did. 1017 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,960 I don't think he phoned it in at all. 1018 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,720 He still gave 100% and did such a great job. 1019 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,840 You know when he's Edward is crying about Bella, like I know. 1020 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:37,920 I think that is a true testament of a great actor and a great 1021 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,320 professional, yes. And someone with great character 1022 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,800 and it all connects, you know, I think that people that really 1023 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,560 give their all to even like stupid TV movies, like that can 1024 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,160 lead to something. Yeah, exactly. 1025 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,000 You don't ever know someone's going to see that. 1026 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,560 And like, people will talk about how great of how great your work 1027 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,240 ethic is or whatever. Like, yeah. 1028 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,880 And I think that the actors on The OC, they were mad because 1029 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,360 they were getting offered scripts for movies and stuff and 1030 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,840 they had to turn it down because of The OC, which I can kind of 1031 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,320 get. But I almost feel like if they 1032 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,720 had put in a little more, maybe they would have gotten offers 1033 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,960 after the OC ended. Exactly. 1034 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,800 Sorry. Yeah, so true. 1035 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,440 Because also, it's like if you think the show sucks, it's not 1036 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,240 going to be any better if you're not putting in effort. 1037 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,480 Yeah, I mean look at that guy on Riverdale this year. 1038 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,200 He's been he's been like in talks or being nominated for 1039 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,200 stuff the movie made December. Like people said that about that 1040 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,960 show, that it was kind of a joke and then you know he did a great 1041 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,840 job. So, I mean, Adam Brody has, he's 1042 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,200 had a career, but it just sounded like they they got a 1043 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:49,600 little arrogant. Yeah. 1044 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,920 About it. And he he made it really clear 1045 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,200 he didn't like the show anymore. He actually said that he let his 1046 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,080 scripts pile up outside his dressing room to show that he 1047 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,000 hadn't read them. That's really. 1048 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:09,800 That's kind of unattractive. I know, I know, And Rachel said 1049 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,400 about this. Here's the thing about Brody, 1050 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,560 even half his effort is still genius, which is frustrating 1051 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,200 because you're like, dude, you can just phone it in and still 1052 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,440 be you, Which is admirable in a way. 1053 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,600 But there were definitely times it was like, dude, suck it up. 1054 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,960 It was hard thing for me because I'm one side it's my boyfriend, 1055 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,040 on the other side it's my Co star. 1056 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:33,160 So how do you balance that? And about the show, Adam said 1057 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,520 people really liked Seth and Summer together, which is great. 1058 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,480 So then the break, they break up for a year, Break them up for 1059 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,520 two years, really. Ross and Rachel it. 1060 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,200 And instead I felt like we were in this sitcom where every 1061 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,640 episode we break up in the beginning over some 1062 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,200 misunderstanding. And then it'd be a comedic thing 1063 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,040 of me trying to get her back. And then I would by the end, 1064 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,840 which was enjoyable. And like I said, I wasn't dying 1065 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,880 to do the melodrama. I was happy to do the light 1066 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,800 stakes comedy, but it felt like in terms of stretching A 1067 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,000 dramatic storyline out to make people care not just from the 1068 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,080 beginning of the episode to the end, but to make them really 1069 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,240 invested in that long haul, it sapped some of the power from 1070 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,160 potentially doing that. So yeah, I don't know, he was 1071 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,240 just unhappy with it. So we've talked about this 1072 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,280 before. This is a hard couple to 1073 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,560 actually find stuff of during the time. 1074 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,720 Like there were no. I went back and did the archives 1075 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,680 of. Time stamps and could not find 1076 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,920 many actual online articles, but I did find one from February 1077 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:36,320 2006 on Fox that just had like random goings on about 1078 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,520 celebrities and it said Adam Brody and Rachel Bilson of the 1079 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,720 OC. This is February 2006, dined 1080 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,280 together on Saturday night, looking a bit glum at the Great 1081 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,200 Eatery Luke's in West Hollywood. They were the youngest people in 1082 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,200 the restaurant and seemed like they wanted to be anywhere else 1083 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,840 in the world, April 2006, Rachel told Teen People. 1084 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,600 We always have a lot to talk about and we tell each other 1085 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,560 everything. I feel like I have everything 1086 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,360 now. The dog, the house, the job, and 1087 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,760 him. I can't ask for anything more. 1088 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,160 So OK, this article said they looked unhappy, but you know 1089 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,040 that can happen anytime to anyone. 1090 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,560 And then she tells teen people that she has everything, so 1091 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:20,240 seems like it's going well. September 2006, Rachel began 1092 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,800 filming the movie Jumper, which also stars Hayden Christensen, 1093 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,640 the actor who's knowing known for playing Anakin Skywalker in 1094 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,280 Star Wars and he's her love interest in the movie. 1095 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,680 OK, so keep that in mind. So she's filming that the rest 1096 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:39,640 of Fall 2006 and early into winter 2006 and then December 1097 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,720 5th 2006. This would be like just about 1098 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,960 when she stops filming this movie, it was reported that 1099 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:52,400 Rachel and Adam had broken up. Oh no, but they still had more 1100 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,560 to film The OC. Oh, they're really going to 1101 01:01:55,560 --> 01:02:01,840 phone it in now? And in January 2007, OK, so this 1102 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,960 is like a month later, it was announced that the OC had been 1103 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,200 canceled. OK, that's a relief if you're 1104 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,720 one of them. Yeah, I know The last episode 1105 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,800 ever would air February 22nd, 2007. 1106 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,360 The season was cut short. Wow. 1107 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,280 It's an odd coincidence that they broke up right before. 1108 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,560 Yeah, maybe there was writing on the wall. 1109 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,560 Yeah, but success, I know. I was wondering. 1110 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,520 See their. Relationship develop beyond the 1111 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,920 show. I know there's a lot to think 1112 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,920 about here. Maybe they knew it was ending 1113 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,000 anyway. And, you know, kind of like how 1114 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,720 high schools couples or even college couples, like 1115 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,480 graduation's coming up soon. And they kind of know that, 1116 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,400 like, OK, I don't think we're going to get married. 1117 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,800 So like let's you. Know. 1118 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:52,160 Start a new chapter, Yeah. Yeah, OK, so apparently they had 1119 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:56,600 already filmed a lot of season 4, which was last season, but 1120 01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,480 they still had to do the spoiler skip head. 1121 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,760 They still had to do the wedding after they broke. 1122 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,400 Up. Oh my gosh, that's like awesome 1123 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,320 girls. The same exact thing have been 1124 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:10,640 done. Gossip Girl. 1125 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,200 Is this fake? Like what is going on? 1126 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,920 Would. Kill me if I went through a 1127 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,680 breakup with I know, and then I had to film a pretend wedding 1128 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,720 with them. I know. 1129 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:24,720 I'd be. Throwing up. 1130 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,280 That is crazy. Me too. 1131 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,200 It's so strange. Do you have a sense? 1132 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,400 Do you have a? Sense Who broke up with who? 1133 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:33,920 Or does it seem like it was mutual? 1134 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:41,720 OK, so I so it's known that shortly, or maybe not that 1135 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,840 shortly, but sometime after they broke up, Rachel started dating 1136 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,120 her Co star from that movie Hayden Christensen and she dates 1137 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,320 him for like 10 years and they have a kid together. 1138 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,320 So it's a serious relationship. And it's funny, a lot of 1139 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,960 articles say that they met in 2007 or 2008 on the set Jumper. 1140 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,480 But no, it was filmed in 2006 and it's a known thing that she 1141 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,040 filmed it during the OC. It was 2006, so I felt like some 1142 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,120 little like sleuth, like, you guys are wrong. 1143 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,040 I know it was 2006. And so it's just interesting, 1144 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,440 you know, like she was still with Adam, supposedly while she 1145 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,800 filmed that movie. Did she leave Adam for him? 1146 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,800 Or, you know, I kind of also get the sense that Adam was kind of 1147 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,680 done with the whole OC and maybe he was kind of just ready to, 1148 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,320 like, move on. So I'm not really sure who 1149 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,040 ended. It, yeah. 1150 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,880 Could it be she left Adam for him, or he was a shoulder to cry 1151 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,280 on after Yeah, broke up with her? 1152 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,480 Or maybe it was just mutual and they're both like, yeah, it's 1153 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:39,440 over. Maybe. 1154 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,400 Find new people. I know I'm so curious about 1155 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,680 mutual breakups because I personally have never 1156 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,800 experienced 1. I guess that's what I should get 1157 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,320 in the audience, but. Can. 1158 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,800 A breakup ever truly be mutual? I know I don't get. 1159 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:53,880 It. I don't know. 1160 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,080 I think I could. See maybe if you just had like a 1161 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,320 huge fight and you just both are so mad at each other for some 1162 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,320 reason. Yeah, and you both are like, OK, 1163 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,320 this is it, But if you had a fight, you might think that the 1164 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,800 other one is more responsible for the fight. 1165 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,520 I don't know. Right, right. 1166 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,360 I know. Yeah. 1167 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:12,880 We should ask people this at some point. 1168 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,880 Yeah, I don't think. Isn't there a song about the 1169 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,000 script when a heart breaks and never breaks even or something? 1170 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:20,200 Is that what that means? Oh yeah. 1171 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,640 I don't think. I think in any break, don't 1172 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:27,760 break even. In any breakup, there's always 1173 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,120 somebody who is a little bit more upset. 1174 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,000 What am I supposed to do when the best part of me was always 1175 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,560 you? What am I supposed to say when 1176 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,320 I'm I'm all choked up and you're OK? 1177 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,560 Oh, that's that's the 2000. Falling to pee? 1178 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,360 That might be the 2010 might be like. 1179 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,320 Yeah, it might be 2010 or something falling to pee. 1180 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,960 What is up with the? Script I know. 1181 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,400 Where have they been? I don't know. 1182 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,320 Well, a lot of people speculated. 1183 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,760 A lot of people thought that Seth and Summer, their 1184 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:07,000 characters chemistry, was off in season four, and a source close 1185 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,440 to the pair told people at the time it was a typical romance 1186 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,840 and they just grew apart. They've been on and off for a 1187 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:18,720 while now. Oh, oh, about the wedding scene, 1188 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,640 Rachel said. We had broken up and it's the 1189 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,880 end of the show. So many things coming to an end. 1190 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,120 At the same time. It was really bizarre. 1191 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,480 When you're that age, you think you're going to be with that 1192 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,840 person forever. And I remember feeling like I 1193 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,880 don't want to wear something that I would ever wear for my 1194 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,080 own wedding. That feels weird because we just 1195 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,320 broke up. I was like, give me a dress I 1196 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,640 would never want to wear. So they did. 1197 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,000 And I guess she kind of. When she's walking down the 1198 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,600 aisle, she sticks out her tongue at. 1199 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,560 Oh yeah, but. I guess that was something that. 1200 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,400 That's really cute it. Is, but I guess it's something 1201 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,960 that she just kind of added in and they kept it in. 1202 01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:01,640 I know it seems flirty and I think it was flirty, but also 1203 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,040 her being maybe a little uncomfortable and like not, no, 1204 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,200 no, not unable to take it seriously, you know. 1205 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,360 Yeah. And she said, I remember on one 1206 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,000 of the last days of filming the show just feeling so sad and 1207 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,640 being close to Adam, sitting on his lap and going through all 1208 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,600 these emotions, which is interesting because they weren't 1209 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,320 together anymore, but apparently she was still sitting on his 1210 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,800 lap. Probably that like in between 1211 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,000 when people break up, but they're still hanging out all 1212 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,640 the time. That's tough. 1213 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,800 I feel like I'd be losing it if I was her. 1214 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,560 Also, I don't know, if she had like another job lined up, I'd 1215 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,400 be kind of, I'd be freaked out, you know, like, what is my life 1216 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:37,760 now? I. 1217 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,720 Know Not only are you going through breakup at a significant 1218 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,240 career change, too. After the breakup, there was a 1219 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,800 TMZ article. Sorry, kind of trashy, I know, 1220 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,920 but it said the O CS Adam Brody, who recently split from Rachel 1221 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,880 Bilson, was spotted with Kirsten Dunst. 1222 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,240 Interesting. And Melinda Clark, who played 1223 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,920 Julie Cooper on the show, said about Adam. 1224 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,760 Rachel, Adam and Rachel said they were the couple that 1225 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,320 everyone everything revolved around outside the show. 1226 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,240 They just seemed to fit and they were adorable together at the 1227 01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,080 end. There were a few eye rolls here 1228 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,840 and there in Season 4, but they were really sweet. 1229 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,840 I think there was a real nice connection. 1230 01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:18,560 Oh, these are the other two stars. 1231 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,240 There's real nice connection with Ben and Misha in the 1232 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,560 beginning, and maybe not so much at the end. 1233 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:30,240 OK everyone, just feeling everything left and right. 1234 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,279 I love. That what the heck? 1235 01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:36,080 Yeah. So she started dating Hayden 1236 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,720 Christensen. And interestingly, after they 1237 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:45,240 had broken up, Adam still worked on a project with Rachel's dad. 1238 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:50,359 They Co wrote a comic book miniseries called The Red 1239 01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:52,240 Menace. Red Menace? 1240 01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:55,439 No. I wonder if they had been 1241 01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:01,319 talking about that previously. Probably seems like he is close 1242 01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:04,439 to her parents, though, for that to happen. 1243 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,240 That's been serious. Yeah. 1244 01:09:06,399 --> 01:09:11,080 So time passed, You know, she dated Hayden, seemingly off and 1245 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,680 on, for 10 years, and they had a daughter together. 1246 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,000 And then Adam married Leighton Meester, who played Blair on 1247 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,439 Gossip Girl and they have two kids. 1248 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,920 And then this welcome to the OC Bitches podcast happened in 2021 1249 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:28,800 and I've already shared a lot of things that Rachel said on it. 1250 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:34,000 But so it's a rewatch show with Rachel and Melinda Clark and 1251 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,279 throughout the show that they're watching each episode and 1252 01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:40,680 talking about it. And obviously her ex-boyfriend 1253 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,640 is in every single episode that they're watching. 1254 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,399 And she does make a lot of references to the fact that she 1255 01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:47,279 dated him. I mean, I remember when I was 1256 01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:50,960 listening to it, I wanted more. Like I was always dying for her 1257 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,600 to say more. But she would acknowledge it a 1258 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,200 lot about how it was kind of awkward. 1259 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:59,040 And on the podcast she talked about how she saw Anna remember 1260 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,480 that love triangle character go in. 1261 01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:07,680 So I guess the actress, actor Samira went in to go kiss Seth 1262 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:15,080 the names and she said I see Samira like slip tongue and I'm 1263 01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,640 watching it and she slipped the tongue and I get transported 1264 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,080 back to 18 years ago and I get a little jealous and I'm like, 1265 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,280 what are you doing slipping tongue in the mouth? 1266 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:28,280 There's no tongue in television. So that's funny. 1267 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:33,880 And then so on the podcast, they have guests pretty much every 1268 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:37,800 episode of who are people from The OC, whether they were actors 1269 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,280 or directors or writers or costume people. 1270 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,880 Like they have people from the show on on the podcast. 1271 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,600 And, you know, the whole time the show, as the episodes go by, 1272 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,600 you're wondering, are they going to have Adam Brody on the show? 1273 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,480 I mean, he's the star, Like, come on. 1274 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,480 But you know, there's that weird thing because that's her ex. 1275 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,920 And a while it goes by, he's not on the show. 1276 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:06,560 But then he finally was on the show. 1277 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:12,160 The Adam Brody episode. They did A2 parter and Yep and 1278 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,160 people who. Shipped them at one point in 1279 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:15,320 time. Must have been going. 1280 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,040 Crazy. Yeah. 1281 01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:23,200 I mean, I was going crazy like I I I wasn't even watching it like 1282 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,360 while it was live. But it's just crazy to see them 1283 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:30,000 talking to each other and I hope they're not listening. 1284 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,600 It was a little awkward at times. 1285 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,240 Was it? I was going to say they must be 1286 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,720 so moved on that it's no big deal. 1287 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,320 OK, so first of all, she talked to People magazine. 1288 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,920 She did like a video interview and she talked about how she 1289 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,920 asked Adam. And I do really appreciate how 1290 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,320 open she's been. I really appreciate that because 1291 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,560 she was really honest. She said that she was nervous 1292 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,080 and she didn't think he would do it and that she texted him and 1293 01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:00,080 said I guess she had a another dog from the OC days named 1294 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,720 Thurman and she texted him like Thurman died. 1295 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:05,880 You have to come on the show. Oh my. 1296 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:11,080 God, what a guilt trip. You know, I know. 1297 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,520 But he said yes. Yeah, probably because she guilt 1298 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,440 tripped him. And she said that they talked 1299 01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:19,680 about having him on to watch the episode where they lost their 1300 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,440 virginity together. The one, the clip that I showed 1301 01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:24,520 you guys at the beginning, but then they decided it was too 1302 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,400 awkward. So they didn't do that. 1303 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,840 And he came on for a later episode. 1304 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:34,880 And so I just, I wrote down a bunch of little quotes from it 1305 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,480 of things that she said or he said, well one at one point she 1306 01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:41,280 said I was never better than when I was acting with you. 1307 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,160 And Adam goes, oh that's so sweet. 1308 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,720 And she taught, told this story about how. 1309 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:53,640 So there was this plot line where Adam's character, Seth and 1310 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,200 I think Ryan, the other character, we're going to Las 1311 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,600 Vegas. But Rachel was not in this 1312 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,160 episode. Her character had nothing to do 1313 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,840 with it. She wasn't supposed to be there, 1314 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:07,280 but she told the showrunner Josh, she said Josh Brody is not 1315 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:12,200 going to Vegas without me. So she made him write her into 1316 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:16,600 the script and and she said, like, I had to be everywhere 1317 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,240 because I had to be everywhere you were because I was this 1318 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,680 young girlfriend with a very successful, famous, crush worthy 1319 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,520 boyfriend. And he just kind of, like, 1320 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:28,040 chuckled along, like it felt a little nervous, a little awkward 1321 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:29,520 to me. Well, especially if they're both 1322 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,880 new people at this point. Like if I was lean, yeah, it'd 1323 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,880 be kind of, I don't know, she's probably really secure, but. 1324 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,880 Well, here's the thing. She I'm pretty sure. 1325 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:41,600 Rachel, I hope you're not listening. 1326 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,240 I'm pretty sure she was single. Her and Hayden were no longer 1327 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,160 together. She was dating Bill Hader 1328 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,760 briefly, but I don't. I mean, she could have been 1329 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,880 seeing someone that we don't know about, but didn't. 1330 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,400 She give an interview saying that the Bill Hader breakup was 1331 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,960 like the worst breakup ever. Yeah, I think so. 1332 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,560 She was like gutted by that. It was very brief as well. 1333 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:02,720 I know. So I could. 1334 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:06,440 Maybe she was, you know, feeling nostalgic for Adam Brody, but it 1335 01:14:06,440 --> 01:14:11,320 isn't appropriate because he's married and he says that he 1336 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,440 doesn't. OK, it's like kind of sad 1337 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,520 because she's talking so much about this Vegas thing and he 1338 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,440 says he doesn't remember anything about it. 1339 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:23,400 And she goes, she says like, oh, yeah, I also don't remember 1340 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,240 anything. And she says we make a great 1341 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,440 pair. We should just rehash. 1342 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,560 But then I think she gets cut off. 1343 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,320 What are you doing? Yeah, let's. 1344 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:40,600 Wind it back, Rachel. And then she randomly tells a 1345 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,000 story about how the creator, Josh Schwartz, was trying to get 1346 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,760 Adam a stripper in Vegas. She was like, remember when Josh 1347 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,120 was trying to get you a stripper? 1348 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,880 And he says no, I don't remember that. 1349 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,720 And he's like, yeah, he's trying to get a stripper. 1350 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,800 And I was like, no. And he acts like he doesn't 1351 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,360 remember him. And then she says, didn't you 1352 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,640 give me this advice about going on a talk show? 1353 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:07,880 And he goes, oh, I don't think so. 1354 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,000 And then she says this, like, bit of advice, she recalls. 1355 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:15,080 He said, And he's like, Oh yeah, maybe I did say that, Oh my God, 1356 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,880 it was a little sad. Like, I feel like she, even 1357 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,040 though I had said earlier she doesn't remember a lot of 1358 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,080 things, she did remember a lot of things about him and he kind 1359 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,480 of acted like he didn't remember. 1360 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,200 That that is heartbreaking. I was thinking about that the 1361 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:33,400 other day and just remembering past relationship, where I feel 1362 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:37,760 like in hindsight, something that makes me realize it wasn't 1363 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,680 meant to be is I would remember all these moments and like, 1364 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:45,680 recall them to him and he had no recollection of them. 1365 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,200 Like, wow, these moments that were like, so significant in my 1366 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:54,320 memory of like a story that I had built up in my head or kind 1367 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:55,680 of nothing. Yeah. 1368 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:02,720 I that is empathizing. And it's really, I mean, 1369 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,400 obviously it's ATV show, but it's really different from The 1370 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:10,040 OC because one big plot line about The OC is that Seth has 1371 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:15,440 always remembered this poem that Summer recited in like 6th grade 1372 01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:18,280 and that that's when he fell in love with her because her hand 1373 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,320 shook while she's recited the poem. 1374 01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,040 And it's like, I wish I was a mermaid. 1375 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,520 And it's like this whole thing that like Seth always remembered 1376 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,560 everything about Summer and so that's sad that Adam Brody 1377 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,720 doesn't remember anything. Well, not, not, not nothing. 1378 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,560 But so, are we going to watch a clip from this episode? 1379 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,280 They actually put it behind like a paywall. 1380 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,400 It used to not be, but I don't know why. 1381 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,960 They hey, you know, we get it. Yeah, we get it. 1382 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:44,560 We get it. We do it too. 1383 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,040 I understand. They make it kind of hard, 1384 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,600 though. It's like some weird network 1385 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,200 thing. You have to sign up for like one 1386 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,920 of those podcast networks. But I did. 1387 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,160 I mean, it wasn't like he was totally closed off. 1388 01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:01,160 I did think that they were both joking around and like making 1389 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,040 faces and both being, I don't know, maybe just like a little 1390 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,480 reminiscent, somewhat flirty. And they were talking about 1391 01:17:07,480 --> 01:17:09,720 guest stars like, oh, who was your favorite guest *? 1392 01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:14,360 And she brought up Olivia Wilde out of nowhere and said, I 1393 01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,320 remember you had a crush on Olivia Wilde and I was so mad, 1394 01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,600 but I had a crush on her too, so I understand. 1395 01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:26,600 I feel like I think one awkward thing is they're talking about 1396 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,440 the TV show, but their relationship is coming up. 1397 01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:32,200 I feel like if I was Lee and Meester, I'd feel more 1398 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,280 comfortable. Like, let's keep it to the show, 1399 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,640 you know? I know it's hard not to talk 1400 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:42,440 about the relationship, but. Yeah, I hope that they talked on 1401 01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:45,440 the phone or something a little bit before this, because I was 1402 01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:49,560 thinking to myself, Oh my God, imagine if my first reunion with 1403 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,680 an ex was on a podcast. Recorded for people to listen 1404 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,760 to. Recorded. 1405 01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,400 Yeah. I mean, obviously I would be 1406 01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,120 like, well, first of all, I would be like, Oh my gosh, well, 1407 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,200 sorry about how I behaved back. Or I don't know, like, I don't 1408 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,240 know, like let's like rehash the whole end of our relationship. 1409 01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,240 What happened? I don't. 1410 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,480 I hope that they talked otherwise because that would be 1411 01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:15,760 really intense. Yeah. 1412 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,480 Oh my gosh. Do that for entertainment. 1413 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,720 But this other part where she said, did I turn you on to 1414 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:27,240 Springsteen? He goes, I I remember you were 1415 01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,440 so into Springsteen. I'm still kind of air. 1416 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:34,120 And he said that. I remember your dad liked him. 1417 01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:37,760 And then Adam said, I like some songs, you know, but in general, 1418 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,720 it's too earnest for me. Well, I don't know. 1419 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,600 I like some earnest stuff. I'm just not a Springsteen head. 1420 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:47,880 And then Rachel just goes. Was Springsteen in the episode 1421 01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:49,200 or something that they're talking about? 1422 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,680 I don't know. And for Melinda Clark, I feel 1423 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,480 like she kept having a segue away from these Random. 1424 01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,160 Thought somebody else was there. Yeah, she was so. 1425 01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,000 She would be. She would keep bringing it back 1426 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,520 to the episode. She's like, all right, back to 1427 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,480 the episode. Yeah, I know what. 1428 01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:07,880 Did you guys think of this scene? 1429 01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,600 If you're Rachel Bilson, you're like, newly single. 1430 01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,760 You're talking to your, like, hot, attractive ex like on the 1431 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,120 podcast. Like, I feel, like, way too 1432 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,840 excited to be like, let's reconnect. 1433 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:23,280 I would, yeah. But he also he acknowledged that 1434 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,160 he wasn't as appreciative as he should have been. 1435 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,080 And well, let me I'm skipping ahead. 1436 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,440 But he said he's embarrassed by a lot of the things he did back 1437 01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:37,720 then and that it was gross that he let it be known how much he 1438 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,760 disliked the script. And he said I definitely treated 1439 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,160 the word disrespectfully at that point and that it wasn't cool. 1440 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,600 So at least at least he acknowledges that now. 1441 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,080 Yeah. And then she she did keep 1442 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:49,640 mentioning things like he was on watch. 1443 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,520 What happens live with is it Andy Cohen? 1444 01:19:52,920 --> 01:20:00,240 And she said, Didn't they ask you about kissing me, Rachel? 1445 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,560 Why are you asking that? What did he say? 1446 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,520 Well, I think it what happened on the show was they asked like 1447 01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:10,840 who did you like kissing more, Rachel Bilson or Olivia Wilde? 1448 01:20:11,440 --> 01:20:15,360 And I think he did say Rachel Bilson because I was dating her. 1449 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:21,440 She had to say, obviously. Yeah, if I was like, yeah, I 1450 01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:24,120 don't. I don't feel comfortable with 1451 01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,560 this. I know, yeah. 1452 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,640 So those those are the highlights I thought from his 1453 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,120 episode and I listened to. I was genuinely into this 1454 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,000 podcast. It it's not on anymore because 1455 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,920 they finished their rewatch, but on the last episode when they 1456 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,520 watched the end of the show, Melinda Clark, her Co host, 1457 01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:43,920 said. I felt like I was watching 1458 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,640 Rachel and Adam, she said on their wedding day, which is kind 1459 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,360 of a weird thing to say, but I know. 1460 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:55,800 And apparently Rachel, when she watched the Seth summer wedding, 1461 01:20:56,200 --> 01:21:01,120 she texted Josh Schwartz and said, oh life and said that it 1462 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:10,720 was bringing up so much again. Yeah, so today, you know, they 1463 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,400 are not together. He's with like Meester as we 1464 01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:17,480 said, and she she definitely still has. 1465 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,240 I don't know what he thinks. I mean, he's married, so he, I 1466 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,960 think needs to keep his cards close and that's a good thing. 1467 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,120 But she definitely still talks about him a lot. 1468 01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,480 Even 10 months ago she did this video for Entertainment Weekly 1469 01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:32,040 where she went through all her roles in her career and she 1470 01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:36,160 talked about how she felt like she was able to, in The OC, go 1471 01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:40,760 from guest star to starring role because she made Josh Schwartz 1472 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,160 laugh and was in Josh Schwartz's good graces. 1473 01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,080 But she also said also chemistry is everything. 1474 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,760 And I think the scenes they were writing for Seth and Summer 1475 01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,320 really helped. So I don't know, I just feel 1476 01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,400 like little comments like that, like, oh, we had great 1477 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,560 chemistry, like she just has to mention that. 1478 01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,160 So I don't know. I suspect there might be a 1479 01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,440 little bit lingering feelings on her side, but. 1480 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,280 Yeah, I mean, but at this. Point I was looking too wild to 1481 01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:08,480 it. 13 years later? Oh yeah, 14? 1482 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,520 Yeah. So I'm sure there's lingering 1483 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:16,000 feelings the way those years of your life, like, will always 1484 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,840 have such a special place in your heart. 1485 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,520 But, like, you grow so much in that time, too. 1486 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,440 That's like you can never really go back and be that person and 1487 01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:26,560 be with that person the way you were at that point. 1488 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,360 So doesn't. Totally mean anything. 1489 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:31,840 It doesn't. It doesn't. 1490 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:33,720 It's just fun for us to be a reason. 1491 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:38,280 But I do wish him the best. I think Adam is more 1492 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,320 professional today. She's. 1493 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,040 Adorable. She's so gorgeous. 1494 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:46,880 I love how I know she is. I feel like she's like, I hate 1495 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:50,240 to say this, like she's like an OK actress I've never been, 1496 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,120 like, wowed by. I feel like she'll probably 1497 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,760 never win like an Oscar. Maybe same to him as well. 1498 01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:57,880 I mean, definitely same. I know. 1499 01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,120 Yeah, I would be shocked. I'd be shocked. 1500 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,960 I mean, I really, I do like them both. 1501 01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,320 Even though Adam, he did seem a bit dickish. 1502 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,440 But I do have a soft spot for both of them. 1503 01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,120 But I agree. I was reading a lot of comments 1504 01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,440 and a lot of people's thoughts and stuff online, and a lot of 1505 01:23:16,440 --> 01:23:20,320 people agree that they're not, like, the best actors. 1506 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,440 I think they're good, but it's. He kind of plays himself. 1507 01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:24,440 Yeah, it's weird. They're so arrogant about being 1508 01:23:24,440 --> 01:23:26,760 on the show because it's like, I feel like that show is like what 1509 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:32,400 their skill set is best for. You know, and you kind of talked 1510 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,360 this, talked about this in the Glee episode. 1511 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,200 But the writers really brought in a lot of their own 1512 01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,960 personalities to the characters. Like a lot of things that they 1513 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,800 liked, they made the characters, like. 1514 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,240 So I mean, I was thinking about this like sometimes people, I 1515 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,160 think are acting. They're totally being a 1516 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:50,880 different person. And then sometimes people are 1517 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,160 just kind of acting like different emotions. 1518 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:57,720 Yeah, you know what I mean. And I like I get that sense from 1519 01:23:58,200 --> 01:23:59,800 this show. But also, I'm not an actor. 1520 01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:06,280 So yeah, I shouldn't talk. But but yeah, that's basically 1521 01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:10,560 Adam Brody and Rachel Bilson. Oh, thank you, Kel, for leading 1522 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,200 us through that. That was so fun. 1523 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,360 Thanks, Thanks for listening who thought this was going to be 1524 01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,280 way. Longer, but it did skip. 1525 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,240 It wasn't that long. Who are we talking about next 1526 01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,440 week? I know. 1527 01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:26,480 Next week? Oh yeah, Mel knows. 1528 01:24:27,480 --> 01:24:33,480 Next week we are revisiting somebody, somebody that we have 1529 01:24:33,480 --> 01:24:36,880 talked about before, a music legend. 1530 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,160 And it's another relationship in this person's life. 1531 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,720 Mm hmm. I guess that's all I'll say. 1532 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,120 And if you have a guess, tell us. 1533 01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:52,520 And we always ask people to guess on our Instagram on 1534 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,800 Tuesdays, pretty much. So yeah. 1535 01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:58,720 And thank you. Guys for listening. 1536 01:24:58,720 --> 01:24:59,680 Yep. Thank you. 1537 01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:01,960 And we'll get back together next week. 1538 01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:22,160 Is your heart filled with pain? Shall I come back again? 1539 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:24,000 10 meeting.