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Hey guys, this is Mel. 
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you reading the episode. 
Cal, Who are we talking about 

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today? 
Today we are talking about a 

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kind of forgotten relationship 
from the 1990s. 

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It is Joaquin Phoenix and Liv 
Tyler dated in the 90s, and 

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there's not a lot of information
about them. 

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You know how that is, Those 
couples from, I don't know, the 

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80s, nineties, It's hard to find
information about them, but made

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it fun. 
It was like a treasure hunt 

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through whatever websites I 
could find. 

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Or I really found a book called 
He's Still Here, The Biography 

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of Joaquin Phoenix by Martin 
Howden, which I did not expect 

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to exist. 
I didn't, Yeah. 

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I didn't think he was famous 
enough. 

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I mean, obviously he's a award 
Oscar award-winning actor, 

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right? 
He is an Oscar. 

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Yeah, he's. 
Been nominated 4 times and won 

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once. 
Oh yeah, OK, he's a big star, 

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but I still don't feel like he 
has the type of mystery that 

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even really necessarily warrants
a biography. 

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Or maybe he think he's a. 
Really mysterious guy. 

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But I think usually people don't
write biographies about people 

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that are so young. 
And I found it on this website 

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where you could like rent books 
online. 

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And this guy also wrote a book 
about Robert Benson. 

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That's so funny. 
Is it? 

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Is it just like the Rob Zest 
book? 

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Kind of. 
It's not that teen kind of 

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angle, but I think that the guy 
just gathered, he does what we 

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do, like he just gathered all 
the information that he could, 

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yeah. 
He didn't interview a book. 

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Anybody. 
Yeah, I don't. 

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Think he, like, interviewed? 
Yeah. 

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But yeah, so this is kind of a 
forgotten relationship I over. 

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I did it when I did Elvis and 
Marie Antoinette back-to-back 

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and I needed something smaller 
but and so then I was actually 

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reading those articles that are 
like couples you forgot dated in

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the 90s and I came across them 
and I just think that they are 

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such beautiful people. 
I've always been kind of 

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interested in Joaquin Phoenix 
and Liv Tyler from afar, and I 

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just thought it would be fun to 
learn more about them. 

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Liv and Joaquin, OK, as I said, 
there isn't a ton about them 

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because it's that weird time 
period where there aren't a lot 

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of biographies written about 
them, but it's not like the 

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1940s. 
But also it's not the social 

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media era. 
So there's like a little less. 

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But I think that they're both 
interesting people. 

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They have very unusual, 
sometimes tragic childhoods, and

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I think they're interesting 
people. 

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And she's 2 inches taller than 
him. 

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We love a height difference. 
Yes, 3 words I would used to 

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describe them as a couple. 
I was struggling to come up with

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this but sometimes it doesn't 
come that naturally. 

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But I say I would say they as a 
couple are quiet, OK, young, 

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very young. 
Love and romantic slash 

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chivalrous. 
That's sweet. 

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Who are they? 
I think that it's kind of the 

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most interesting part of the 
episode is going to be just like

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who they are as people. 
But I'll start with Liv. 

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I just think Liv Tyler is so 
beautiful. 

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Her large blue eyes, her large 
lips, her pale skin, her dark 

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hair. 
She has the most soothing, soft 

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voice I've ever heard. 
She sounds like an Angel. 

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Seriously. 
I wrote this like several times 

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when we know it's like she's 
just an Angel to me. 

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And she also seems so sweet and 
normal and just down to earth. 

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And I just. 
I really like her. 

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What do you expect That given 
who? 

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She's an EPO baby, right? 
Yeah, she is. 

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She is, but she's also an 
actress. 

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She started out as a model, but 
she's also known for playing the

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Elf, Arwen and Lord of the Rings
movies. 

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But she's been in other movies 
like Empire Records, Jersey 

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Girl, Armageddon, and she hasn't
been doing as much acting these 

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days, but I guess she's on the 
show The Leftovers. 

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She is a rock'n'roll child 
because her father is Steven 

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Tyler, the lead singer of 
Aerosmith. 

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More on that in a bit. 
She was born July 1st, 1977. 

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Cancer. 
If that means anything to 

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anyone. 
Her name is Liv, Not Olivia, 

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just Liv. 
Her mother named her after the 

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Norwegian actress Liv Allman 
after seeing her on a TV Guide. 

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Oh, I thought that was 
interesting. 

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And Liv's mom is kind of famous,
too. 

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Her mom is BB Buell, who is a 
former model rock singer and 

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Playboy playmate, and she's been
described as like a legendary 

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groupie for many famous 
musicians. 

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And she was part of the 
inspiration for Penny Lane and 

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almost famous oh. 
That's huge. 

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It's huge. 
And that's her mom. 

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And yeah, her dad is Steven 
Tyler BB and Stevens. 

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Steven, I know, I feel weird 
saying first name basis. 

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Phoebe and Steven Tyler's 
relationship was very brief, 

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though I think they're only 
together for a couple months. 

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And then she left Steven Tyler 
when she was three months 

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pregnant and went back to her 
previous boyfriend, the rock 

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star Todd Rundgren who live grew
up believing was her biological 

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father. 
What? 

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All right, I will have to stop 
the episode right there. 

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