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you reading the episode. Cal, Who are we talking about
today? Today we are talking about a
kind of forgotten relationship from the 1990s.
It is Joaquin Phoenix and Liv Tyler dated in the 90s, and
there's not a lot of information about them.
You know how that is, Those couples from, I don't know, the
80s, nineties, It's hard to find information about them, but made
it fun. It was like a treasure hunt
through whatever websites I could find.
Or I really found a book called He's Still Here, The Biography
of Joaquin Phoenix by Martin Howden, which I did not expect
to exist. I didn't, Yeah.
I didn't think he was famous enough.
I mean, obviously he's a award Oscar award-winning actor,
right? He is an Oscar.
Yeah, he's. Been nominated 4 times and won
once. Oh yeah, OK, he's a big star,
but I still don't feel like he has the type of mystery that
even really necessarily warrants a biography.
Or maybe he think he's a. Really mysterious guy.
But I think usually people don't write biographies about people
that are so young. And I found it on this website
where you could like rent books online.
And this guy also wrote a book about Robert Benson.
That's so funny. Is it?
Is it just like the Rob Zest book?
Kind of. It's not that teen kind of
angle, but I think that the guy just gathered, he does what we
do, like he just gathered all the information that he could,
yeah. He didn't interview a book.
Anybody. Yeah, I don't.
Think he, like, interviewed? Yeah.
But yeah, so this is kind of a forgotten relationship I over.
I did it when I did Elvis and Marie Antoinette back-to-back
and I needed something smaller but and so then I was actually
reading those articles that are like couples you forgot dated in
the 90s and I came across them and I just think that they are
such beautiful people. I've always been kind of
interested in Joaquin Phoenix and Liv Tyler from afar, and I
just thought it would be fun to learn more about them.
Liv and Joaquin, OK, as I said, there isn't a ton about them
because it's that weird time period where there aren't a lot
of biographies written about them, but it's not like the
1940s. But also it's not the social
media era. So there's like a little less.
But I think that they're both interesting people.
They have very unusual, sometimes tragic childhoods, and
I think they're interesting people.
And she's 2 inches taller than him.
We love a height difference. Yes, 3 words I would used to
describe them as a couple. I was struggling to come up with
this but sometimes it doesn't come that naturally.
But I say I would say they as a couple are quiet, OK, young,
very young. Love and romantic slash
chivalrous. That's sweet.
Who are they? I think that it's kind of the
most interesting part of the episode is going to be just like
who they are as people. But I'll start with Liv.
I just think Liv Tyler is so beautiful.
Her large blue eyes, her large lips, her pale skin, her dark
hair. She has the most soothing, soft
voice I've ever heard. She sounds like an Angel.
Seriously. I wrote this like several times
when we know it's like she's just an Angel to me.
And she also seems so sweet and normal and just down to earth.
And I just. I really like her.
What do you expect That given who?
She's an EPO baby, right? Yeah, she is.
She is, but she's also an actress.
She started out as a model, but she's also known for playing the
Elf, Arwen and Lord of the Rings movies.
But she's been in other movies like Empire Records, Jersey
Girl, Armageddon, and she hasn't been doing as much acting these
days, but I guess she's on the show The Leftovers.
She is a rock'n'roll child because her father is Steven
Tyler, the lead singer of Aerosmith.
More on that in a bit. She was born July 1st, 1977.
Cancer. If that means anything to
anyone. Her name is Liv, Not Olivia,
just Liv. Her mother named her after the
Norwegian actress Liv Allman after seeing her on a TV Guide.
Oh, I thought that was interesting.
And Liv's mom is kind of famous, too.
Her mom is BB Buell, who is a former model rock singer and
Playboy playmate, and she's been described as like a legendary
groupie for many famous musicians.
And she was part of the inspiration for Penny Lane and
almost famous oh. That's huge.
It's huge. And that's her mom.
And yeah, her dad is Steven Tyler BB and Stevens.
Steven, I know, I feel weird saying first name basis.
Phoebe and Steven Tyler's relationship was very brief,
though I think they're only together for a couple months.
And then she left Steven Tyler when she was three months
pregnant and went back to her previous boyfriend, the rock
star Todd Rundgren who live grew up believing was her biological
father. What?
All right, I will have to stop the episode right there.
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