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Hi guys. 
Before we you start this 

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episode, we have to share that. 
The timing is just crazy. 

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Yeah, we recorded this episode 
on August 29th and we just heard

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the news today, that Queen 
Elizabeth has passed away. 

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Sadly may God Rest her soul 
being Elizabeth. 

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So if you hear us say anything 
and episode about her out living

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Charles, or speaking about her, 
in the present time, Hence, hmm,

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orc calling Prince, Charles 
Prince when he's now King. 

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He's now the king. 
It's crazy. 

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We did not know it at the time 
when we recorded this episode, 

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the timing is crazy. 
So yeah, just a little 

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disclaimer. 
Keep that in mind. 

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And rest in peace to the queen, 
here's the episode long live, 

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the queen Are You Lonesome 
Tonight? 

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Do you miss me tonight? 
Are you sorry? 

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We drifted. 
Hi guys. 

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How are you doing today? 
How are you doing today? 

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How are you doing today? 
Irish I guess. 

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So don't yes today I feel like 
my accent is not correct or not 

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as it should be. 
I wish I had an English accent 

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for you all today. 
Ade you to do the whole episode 

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on an English. 
I thought I didn't know, 

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probably not, but I genuinely 
wish I had an English accent. 

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So bad has ever. 
You ever thought this like what 

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if I just started? 
It was like everybody. 

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I know would think I'm like so 
yeah and judge me. 

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So you can't you know it's not 
in your voice, it is because 

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then even when people do move 
somewhere, and then adopt the 

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accent and people like make fun 
of, yeah, it has to be natural 

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and I think rarely does somebody
totally yeah. 

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Adopt a British accent. 
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Workin. 
But yeah, the reason is today We

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are talking about two members of
the royal family, who what 

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numbers are is that, that would 
be, no, I can't stop. 

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I'm gonna say their names and in
a boat accident, that would be 

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Prince Charles and Camilla 
parker-bowles Scandal, 

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controversial, I know, I know 
it's controversial because if 

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you didn't know if you're like 
eight years old or something, 

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Because Prince Charles was 
married to Princess Diana. 

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Lady Diana, who was beloved by 
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Mmm. 
And then she he cheated on her 

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with Camilla. 
Parker Bowles who's very sad. 

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People don't love Camilo. 
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beloved, and it was tragic, and 
very sad. 

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And then even more tragic day. 
Anodized makes it even worked. 

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Yeah, it's just very sad and so 
people do not like Prince 

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Charles because of this and 
Camilla. 

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And yeah, I feel a little 
nervous about doing this 

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episode. 
Yeah, a perspective that is 

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never depicted, which is what I 
think, makes it so interesting 

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because he didn't just cheat on 
Diana with anybody and 

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everybody. 
Yeah, cheetah with someone. 

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Ooh, in my perception, he 
genuinely really loves. 

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So, I know it's not good, and I 
know Diana really wasn't treated

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very well by Charles, but I 
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Hey, like that's some kind of 
like sweet that he just loved 

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Camilla. 
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And spoiler they're still 
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So it does make you think like 
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Why didn't he just? 
Why wasn't he just with Camilla 

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in the first place? 
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No, it's yeah, it's interesting 
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just he, you know, doesn't. 
It's not really for love. 

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Is yeah. 
We're for lust and there wasn't 

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guys stand. 
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Yeah. 
So I know when we saw Spencer 

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together starring Kristen 
Stewart, I remember in the 

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theater after we were like, I 
think you said we should cover 

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them on our show. 
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And I agreed now we're doing it 
but I've always thought if not 

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us like I just want to See it 
depicted in general, from that 

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perspective. 
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like they do Charles on the 
crown and, and yes, so much 

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media about them. 
But yeah, it's always from a 

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very sympathetic lens on Diana, 
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But yeah, It does seem like two 
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each other and it was just 
terrible circumstances and it 

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seems like Charles that's 
Charles is just as much a victim

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of the royal family as anybody 
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It's true. 
It's true. 

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Have you watched the crown like 
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I know. 
I just saw the crown like before

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when they're young. 
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I haven't watched it and I am 
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Seasons but after doing all my 
research for this, I I watched 

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some of the clips on YouTube of 
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couldn't, I don't know. 
I just couldn't do it. 

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The guy did not look like 
Charles to me. 

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It was really bugging me in some
of the dialogue. 

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I just felt like was so 
unrealistic. 

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Like they were saying things 
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they would know it already. 
Do you know what I mean? 

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Yeah, she'd be like that's like 
my grandmother who Bubba. 

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Bubba the extradition. 
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So I just couldn't do it but I'm
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but I really I really enjoyed 
researching this and I'm glad 

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you encouraged me to do it 
because now, I'm sorry. 

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I must have been a big BF feet 
to research this because I 

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imagine they're so much out 
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while. 
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finished like typing up all my 
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I'm obsessed now and I think I'm
going to be in to Charles and 

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Camilla feel like the rest of my
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Probably, I'm just into them 
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I love it. 
I know it's Candle is but Find 

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them really interesting and I 
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The future king and queen. 
I know, wait, no, she won't be 

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clean. 
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The queen said she would be 
comedian Queen concert, right? 

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Yeah. 
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crazy to this day. 
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Queen because of all this drama.
Just Queen Camilla. 

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Yeah. 
That it has to be Queen consort.

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What does that mean? 
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any of my marriage like yeah, I 
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it was gonna say like 
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It's not like the same plane 
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Yeah that will come up that come
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Well I guess I should get into 
it. 

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This is going to be a long one 
but guys you don't have to 

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listen all at once. 
No, you can take breaks and then

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come back to the episode is like
an audiobook, you know? 

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Explain that to my mom because 
she's like, it's too long, mom, 

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if you're listening, you don't 
have to finish it. 

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You don't have to sit down and 
listen to the whole thing. 

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It's like, yes, dart on your 
commute or and then come back to

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it, Walker's, whatever you're 
doing, maybe you are just lying 

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there, I don't know, but you 
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Yeah, one day, yeah. 
This might be a long one but I 

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hope you like it. 
All right, you ready? 

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Imam mehdi. 
We'll just to start. 

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I use like two books, mostly for
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I used someone internet to, of 
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called Prince Charles. 
The passions and paradoxes of an

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improbable Life by Sally Bedell 
Smith, and I really liked that 

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book. 
Very cool. 

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Very interesting. 
The other book, which I brought 

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with me, is Charles and Camilla 
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a love affair. 
This one was a lot more like 

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gossipy, I love. 
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biography sometimes in this book
I was like okay I don't know if 

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that's because it would be like 
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Some this friend said that a lot
of stuff like that and also like

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there was a story in this book. 
Spoiler, a story about women 

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like throwing bread rolls at 
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I know in the other book 
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that that wasn't true that makes
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Yeah, I question a little bit of
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wrote it actually like worked in
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government. 
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people that knew them and he 
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Camilla a few times. 
So I think he liked did know he 

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was talking about but I think 
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but I tried to you know, be kind
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Yeah I mean you have two 
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Yeah ones more legit. 
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I mean both of them. 
I think they interviewed like 

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hundreds of Oh yeah, I'm sure so
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It's crazy. 
Okay, get into it. 

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So Prince Charles fill it. 
Arthur George was born November 

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14th. 1948 Scorpio like me. 
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Only a few days after your 
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Yeah, I gotta say. 
I know people hate him and find 

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them annoying, but I feel like I
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Charles. 
Oh, they've realized meaning I 

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praise you. 
She was I hope. 

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I hope that the royal family 
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This is not an anti Charles 
episode like don't try to get it

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taken down. 
Don't go after them because I 

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think they are like really 
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Yeah. 
So don't take it down. 

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Please don't contact Spotify or 
whatever. 

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Yeah so born 1948. 
Mother's the Queen. 

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Elizabeth is a baby. 
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Philip, Charles was a very 
sensitive shy child and he said,

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and others have said that his 
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I know. 
And I said, fine, Philip quite 

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attractive over there. 
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And he said his mother. 
Carol said, his mother was not 

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indifferent so much as detached.
Yeah, I'm sure he's busy. 

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He was Was Charles, I found I 
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Like he was really into 
beautiful things even as a child

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and this goes on through his 
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Like he was intrigued by jewelry
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and he would admire his 
great-aunt edwina's hats and 

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called them. 
Lovely and she said, not my 

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seven year olds would say that 
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And his father was afraid of. 
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spoiled. 
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brutal boarding school. 
I called Gordon Stan and the 

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school was intense. 
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cold showers, wear shorts all 
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There's corporal punishment, 
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And that to sleep with the 
windows open all year, it's like

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they're cold all. 
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So snow would even go on their 
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That's crazy. 
I just wanted them to be tough, 

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I guess. 
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He was tormented by the other 
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fun of him a lot. 
That's crazy. 

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Making fun of the game. 
I know somebody someone that was

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his classmate said, few students
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class. 
Charles said people were always 

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moving away from me because they
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up, and he was taunted for his 
big ears and he wrote many 

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letters home about how unhappy 
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I felt so so bad for him reading
his childhood, actually, because

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he was not close at all, to his 
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Yeah, he's so alone at school. 
I don't know if he had like any 

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friends and he would just like 
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Oh, that's really sad. 
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that kids would bully. 
I know the Future King. 

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I know I would have been such a 
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I would've been sucking up to 
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Shame. 
Yeah, apparently kids that would

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suck up to him. 
The other kids would go like or 

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whatever to them. 
So, making sucking up sound, I 

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don't know. 
So it was a whole dynamic like 

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you never afraid to Get close. 
Not surprising. 

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That he wasn't just like fuck 
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Leave me alone. 
Like no, he's very shy, it's 

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cool. 
He's good at reading and writing

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drawing and painting. 
But he struggled in math, which 

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I also really liked know I did 
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Um, just a show, like, how alone
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his parents. 
Apparently, in 1954, his parents

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greeted. 
Owls and his sister and with a 

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handshake. 
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What is no? 
He was close with his sister and

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but his younger brothers were 
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wasn't as close to them. 
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Just good to hear. 
That's good to hear. 

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One of his brothers. 
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Yeah. 
Not a good guy. 

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I was nervous reading this book.
Like who is does he have some 

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kind of connection to that? 
I really think he doesn't. 

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Andrew, that's good to hear. 
I mean, they're just so like 

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distant from each other in 
general. 

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Like yeah, I put the world 
family. 

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You can only lump them together 
and like, associate them. 

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The fact is own parents were 
giving him a handshake. 

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Yeah. 
It's not like they're going to 

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like ride or die for each other.
Yeah. 

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They don't know each other that.
Well, I think him an inner 

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close. 
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like 20 years old. 
Andrews like seven or something.

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Yeah. 
So, you know what I mean? 

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It's just one of those things. 
Like a generational. 

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Yeah. 
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When he He had the Asian flu had
heard of that but I guess that's

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what it's called. 
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and the book made it clear and 
it wasn't the gossipy one. 

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The book made it clear that his 
parents had been inoculated. 

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So there was really no risk of 
them getting infection. 

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They just didn't visit him. 
That's awful. 

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That's so interesting because I 
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crown but they make it seem like
they're like trying to fight 

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against like the coldness or 
what, the royal family or 

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whatever, but it seems like 
they're just like, not doing a 

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good job. 
Because now, I don't know. 

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Yeah, I mean, people got mad at 
Charles for saying this kind of 

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stuff when he was older and said
it wasn't true but I don't know 

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why he would lie about that. 
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do. 
I think he does love his parents

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but he felt very alone. 
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But he's very close to his 
grandma and sorry, there's so 

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much backstory, but I just want 
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you know, I think it's 
important. 

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Um, he's very close to his 
grandmother and she he was very 

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affectionate with her, I guess. 
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that the Queen Mother 
grandmother may have fed his 

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tendency to self-pity and 
whinging as they say in England.

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And yeah, so growing up, he 
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and painting. 
He took up painting watercolors 

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and he still does it to this 
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And they're actually really good
for some UPS. 

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Very cute to me everywhere. 
He goes, apparently he brings 

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paints paint brushes pencil, 
eraser, tissues and Sketchbook 

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with him. 
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When he was a little older at 
age 17, he went Timber Top 

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School in Australia Australia. 
That's fitting that you did the 

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accident, really? 
I don't know which is all about 

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physical challenges and 
Expeditions. 

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Charles loved it. 
He loved it way more than his 

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other school and lots of 
wilderness education stuff and 

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he loved Australia to. 
So shout-out Australians Prince 

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loves you. 
So as a young adult, he seemed 

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much more comfortable with older
people and hung out with a lot 

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of older even In like elderly 
women, oh, I won't really get to

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into I guess. 
But he had like a couple of best

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friends who were like, sixty one
of them was even a tea. 

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Wait a minute. 
How old was he was maybe like 

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20. 
Okay, it's a little odd. 

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I guess, I don't know if I buy 
that. 

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It's true because he was, I 
could get someone to us, but he 

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was really into a lot of things.
Like, he's very into religion. 

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Hmm. 
Bridge reality. 

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Psychology poetry Shakespeare, 
like he's into all these things 

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and he would hang out with these
people that were kind of like 

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mentors / Gru's to have, okay, a
lot of them were do these older 

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women? 
And it was said that he had this

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group of older woman that just 
like love with him. 

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He muscled loved him. 
Thanks God. 

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They must have gotten a kick out
of him. 

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Hang out, isn't it funny? 
I can also see like he had a 

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pretty stuffy upbringing like 
the Royal family doesn't really 

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modernize themselves that 
easily. 

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So must have been really hard to
relate to other 20 year old 

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guys. 
He he is stuffy himself and he 

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doesn't, I mean I was a 
compliment Charles if you're 

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listening and he he is very 
old-fashioned. 

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So he did not relate to people 
his age. 

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So I think he liked hanging out 
with the older ladies. 

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Yeah one of them was Kathleen 
rain who is 81. 

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She was a poet and scholar and 
other was she still alive? 

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Molly Salisbury, who is 65? 
Yeah, circle of older woman who 

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adored, and supported the 
president said, they must have 

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been so obsessed with us. 
Yeah. 

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He said, I've always preferred 
my company my own company or 

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just a one-to-one. 
He's very much like an 

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introvert. 
There's so many movie ideas 

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here. 
Like they could even make a 

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movie. 
Just about the older woman. 

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Prince Charles, The Prince and 
awesome ladies. 

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Oh yeah. 
Charles is like one of the women

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with them and then they die. 
Yes. 

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And then he has to turn it 
Camila. 

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Yes. 
All his friends done. 

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Yeah. 
I actually kind of have it 

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because I do die. 
That's so sad. 

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Um, But yeah, about the 
stuffiness, this is Dorian David

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Kennedy and said, Charles was 
kind of an 18th century Country.

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Gentleman, born 200 years too 
late so he really didn't relate 

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to people's age. 
He went to Trinity College 

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Cambridge. 
Apparently, he was the first 

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heir to the throne and get a 
University degree. 

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Oh wow. 
Yeah, other Royals had dabbled 

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it universities but they never 
finished. 

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I don't know why easily good I 
guess like Duty called or 

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something. 
I feel like Remember the royal 

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family you can't brag on. 
Like, I'm the first member of my

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family to go to college first 
generation ago. 

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Yeah, he was though. 
Yeah, he didn't relate to his 

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classmates and the way they 
dressed and stuff. 

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He dressed in proper corduroy, 
trousers and Tweed. 

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Jackets. 
Charles would not approve. 

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No. 
Oh my God, guys, we live in New 

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York City. 
So you know what? 

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Honestly, he was kind of running
with Edward Cullen. 

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A little bit. 
You know what? 

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That's probably why you love me?
Like, I love you, like classical

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music come from a different 
time. 

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A different time. 
Charles had called himself an 

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incurable romantic, but he 
hadn't had much romantic 

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experience yet at this time. 
He didn't Going to all boys 

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school. 
Yeah, it's yeah, I think he is. 

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I think he was in the okay, 
nothing, right? 

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Everybody is at some point. 
Yeah. 

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Um, in Spring 1969, though, he, 
it's not Camilla. 

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He had his first romance with 
Lucia, Santa Cruz. 

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He was 21. 
She was a daughter of a Chilean 

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ambassador to Britain and was a 
brunette knockout. 

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Um, Said to be the first love of
his life. 

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But she was Roman Catholic and 
unsuitable to marry because the 

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bride had to be Protestant. 
Oh, looking yeah. 

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Then he started doing Royal 
duties, he went on tour World 

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Tour of Australia, Hong Kong, 
New Zealand, Japan. 

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And this has nothing to do with 
anything but like back then. 

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So, this is 1970 when he was 22.
He was already talking about, 

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like the horrifying effects of 
pollution plastic, bottles 

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exhaust, from cars and planes. 
Like, He was already because he 

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had heard about global warming 
stuff. 

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I guess I was already like 
really concerned about it and 

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he's always been a pioneer of 
being like eco-friendly and 

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stuff. 
Wow, I didn't know that no 

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little sustainable care. 
Here is a cousin Ali and he's 

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really into like non-jew Mo's 
and stuff like way before. 

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Probably most people even heard 
of that I don't know that little

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crunchy. 
Yeah, he is actually yeah. 

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So, you know, didn't work out 
with Anna on an associate didn't

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work out with Lucia Santa Cruz. 
Yeah, he's feeling more alone. 

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As he got older, he needed to 
make appointments to see his 

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parents and he craved 
appreciation for from them. 

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He joined the Royal Navy. 
And apparently, his superiors 

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were worried about his inability
to add or generally cope with 

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numbers. 
And I'll totally relate. 

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That's followed him. 
Yeah, really bad at math. 

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Yeah, I completely relate to. 
I think the other day I said, To

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my dad. 
Like what is 20 times? 

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500 but I literally put in the 
Congo. 

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Yeah. 
Hi. 

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I do sometimes struggle adding 
like top digit numbers because 

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I, I think it's a confidence 
thing in a way. 

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Like I said, I think I can do it
fast but then I'm like, wait, 

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no. 
And then I have to slowly do 

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like the whole thing and if I 
don't know if I'm like in a 

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meeting and I had to I like 
sometimes I'll have budget 

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numbers up on the board and one 
My co-workers would be like, oh 

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actually just had to add $4 to 
that even if it's like an eight 

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I cannot do. 
The math in front of people. 99 

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messes me up Nyan. 
Yeah, well it's the synesthesia 

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all the numbers have a 
personality and some of them. 

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Are you hiding going on? 
The numbers are dating. 

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So I can't dating, I can't put 
them together or exit. 

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Yeah, yeah, they don't like each
other. 

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Yeah, yes. 
Some do not like each other. 

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Oh my God. 
Okay. 

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Like Team plus 17, don't even 
get that interact. 

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Can't do that kind of thing. 
Yes, so Yeah, he's very lonely, 

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his friends the Palmer. 
Top concerns even said he was 

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the loneliest human being they 
had ever met. 

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I know not all. 
I can cover him sad but so 

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Edward. 
That is very Edward and Arlene. 

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I'm tired of peacoat. 
Um I also really did this 

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apparently, he was somewhat of a
hoarder and fill his rooms with 

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many objects. 
I have many objects to so yeah 

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then let's go. 
Edward today is yeah, mmm. 

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Also last thing I'm going to say
about him like personality, but 

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probably not the last but just 
he got super into gardening. 

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Is also one of his lifelong 
obsessions. 

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And one thing that he's been 
like roasted and made fun of for

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is like in this documentary. 
He said that he talked to his 

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plans, to help them grow and he 
said they respond, I find. 

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Okay, that's sweet people. 
I made fun of him long but I 

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commend him for saying. 
Yeah, that's cute. 

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You know, I bet he writes the 
sweetest little love letter. 

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It does, you know, it was one of
those old woman that told him to

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talk to his plants. 
So my gosh, I bet you learned a 

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lot from them. 
Yeah. 

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He's okay. 
You need to calm down. 

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So then in 1972 his 
ex-girlfriend Lucia. 

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Invited him out to drinks with 
some people and there, she 

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introduced him to Camilla Rose. 
Rationed. 

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That's quite show. 
Lovely. 

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I know she said something. 
Like, I have the girl for you or

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something. 
I know, I could not do that. 

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Me, neither, if I didn't even 
like the money, I don't get it. 

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She must not like, Charles or 
something, because I don't get 

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that. 
It's crazy. 

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Like the Future King. 
She's like, I didn't work out 

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well, say no, someone else. 
I know, maybe she knew there was

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no chance and she was Catholic. 
Yeah, that's true. 

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She could have converted if she 
really liked. 

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At him. 
Wow, she really was not trying 

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to secure the bag. 
No, she wasn't. 

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You know actually this will come
up a bunch of people weren't 

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trying to disagree on that. 
That's surprising to me. 

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I know it's very admirable. 
You know. 

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Turning down a prince. 
Anyway, Camilla apparently, her 

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friends called her Milla. 
Oh that's cute. 

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Back in the day Camilla she had 
fine features. 

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Light brown. 
Length hair with blond 

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highlights. 
A fetching figure with a large 

456
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,800
bust hovel. 
I read that many times. 

457
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:19,200
She had a husky voice and smoke 
cigarettes. 

458
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,200
Woo, her friend, Lady Annabelle 
Goldsmith said she was intensely

459
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,900
warm maternal laughing creature 
with enormous sex appeal and 

460
00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:30,800
when Camilla walked in the room,
your spirits rise because you 

461
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,300
know, you're going to have a 
laugh. 

462
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:35,200
I like that. 
She seems cool. 

463
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,300
He does. 
She is described as having 

464
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:40,900
expressiveness in her eyes. 
Play of Mischief in her Smile. 

465
00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:45,900
Her low and husky voice minted, 
Marlboros, and Jin, the author 

466
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:49,600
of this book, The Charles. 
And Camilla one said her voice 

467
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,300
is at surprised when you first 
meet her because it's kind of 

468
00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:55,300
deep and you heard her voice. 
And I haven't heard a voice, it 

469
00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:57,900
is, it is kind of deep snow like
that. 

470
00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:01,300
Yeah, that's a nice contrast 
with Charles who seems like he 

471
00:27:01,300 --> 00:27:03,800
has a soft sensitive. 
Yeah. 

472
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,600
Demeanor is very different from 
him in that way. 

473
00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:11,700
She was born, July 17th, In both
her and Charles are actually 

474
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:14,700
delivered by the same doctor. 
Wow, coincidence. 

475
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:20,700
Her father Bruce was a wine 
merchants and her mother, I 

476
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:24,600
think was a stay-at-home mom, 
but I believe also, loved 

477
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,700
gardening. 
And kind of, I had a younger 

478
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:31,000
sister and brother, unlike 
Charles is miserable childhood. 

479
00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:35,000
Camilla Was admired by her 
peers. 

480
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,000
She had boyfriends and was 
confident. 

481
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000
Like I'm sure she had some 
problems, but yeah, but seems 

482
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:47,000
like she's way more like Breezy 
and outgoing than Charles there 

483
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,700
is this story that I've read a 
couple times that they met up at

484
00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:56,100
a polo match and that Camilla 
went up to him and said, my 

485
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:59,400
great-grandmother was Mistress 
of your great-great-grandfather.

486
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,300
I feel we have something in 
common. 

487
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:05,500
Wow, it is true. 
The her great-grandmother was 

488
00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:08,300
Mistress of his great 
grandfather, but apparently is 

489
00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:10,100
not true. 
That that's how they met. 

490
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,600
Mmm! 
I think someone just made that 

491
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,400
up little fan fiction. 
Yeah. 

492
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,400
I feel like sometimes people 
like joke, there, like, she went

493
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,200
up to him and says hot. 
And then, you know, people think

494
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,600
it's real. 
Yeah. 

495
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:25,100
Is reprinted. 
Yeah, often beat that. 

496
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:28,800
I think they did just meet, 
like, out with a group of people

497
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,100
or something, but they did 
encounter each other at Polo 

498
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:33,000
matches, a lot. 
They both really like to pull. 

499
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:35,900
Hello, we got another one on 
Charles Hobbies, he has a lot of

500
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:39,400
hobbies. 
Um, they both loved Polo, the 

501
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,400
outdoors and they had the same 
sense of humor. 

502
00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:46,800
They both loved the goons show 
that came up in the John Lennon 

503
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,000
episode. 
He also loved the goons. 

504
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,700
I've been using it all, hang 
out. 

505
00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:54,100
Yeah. 
They're apparently immediately 

506
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:57,200
attracted to each other, Charles
liked her down to earth 

507
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,800
irreverence and indifference to 
fashion and style. 

508
00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:04,200
I don't know what that means and
for Buddy, the book said, for 

509
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,100
somebody with downbeat 
Tendencies like him, her 

510
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:09,900
personality quote was catnip to 
him. 

511
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,600
Like he's kind of downturn. 
She was just very fun. 

512
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,700
I think. 
Hannah like love at first sight.

513
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,500
So he was 23 inches. 2500 time. 
Yeah. 

514
00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:27,000
Older older woman. 
She did work a little bit. 

515
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,700
She she had some secretarial 
jobs but she wasn't like trying 

516
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:32,700
to build a career. 
Yes, she wasn't like that. 

517
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:35,800
Seriously, Us about it. 
And she shared a flat in 

518
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,600
Belgravia with a friend. 
Apparently, her room was a mess.

519
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,500
Wow. 
So you're a modern woman. 

520
00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:45,800
She's just gotta bring me. 
He's living in the city. 

521
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:50,300
He's living in a palace. 
Wow, that's crazy. 

522
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:54,600
They're all so casual about 
hanging out with the prince, I 

523
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,000
know, I don't know. 
I mean I think she was grew up 

524
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:01,500
wealthy and I don't know. 
Your dad was a wine merchant. 

525
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:02,900
I don't know how rich you get 
from that. 

526
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:10,800
It seems like she was in high up
in a high-class, high clouds 

527
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,400
articles. 
Yeah, Society. 

528
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:16,300
I figured have like a, real hard
time, like being myself around. 

529
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:19,100
I know, like, I feel like I 
would never be able to open up. 

530
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:22,200
I feel like she totally was 
somehow, it was just her 

531
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,200
personality. 
It seems like she's even care, 

532
00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:30,000
but she had been the on and off 
girlfriend of Andrew Parker 

533
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,100
Bowles for a long time. 
I'm I guess when they met was 

534
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:41,200
off but he actually had dated 
and Charles's sister. 

535
00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:45,500
Oh wow, a small circle which is 
just nuts because later Charles 

536
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,200
briefly dated Diana's sister 
what it's like I didn't know 

537
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,200
that. 
Like what's with all these 

538
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,500
people, everyone's just dating 
each other but apparently Andrew

539
00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:59,700
Parker. 
Bowles had a roving eye who 

540
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:02,700
wasn't faithful. 
He is always dropping and 

541
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:06,800
picking Her up as he pleased, 
you know, on and off. 

542
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,900
Yeah. 
And apparently, I don't know if 

543
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:11,500
this is true because I think is 
probably from the gossipy book, 

544
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:14,600
but apparently Andrew, Parker 
Bowles was having an affair with

545
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,600
a married woman. 
Oh, wow, yeah and Hammond. 

546
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,000
Camilla had been on and off for 
seven years. 

547
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,800
So Andrew, I don't know what he 
was doing, but he, maybe he was 

548
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,000
in the Navy or something. 
I don't know. 

549
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,800
But he left for Northern Ireland
and Cyprus and Camille and 

550
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,300
Charles started dating. 
And they were seeing out dancing

551
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:38,100
around, having fun, but then 
Charles had to go to the Royal 

552
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:41,400
Navy for eight months. 
Hmm. 

553
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,500
Before he left, he wrote to his 
uncle. 

554
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:46,400
This is the last time I will see
her for eight months. 

555
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:53,000
He's really sad about that, but 
he hadn't, he hadn't proposed to

556
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,000
her or, you know, you didn't 
lock it down, lock it down. 

557
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,200
But, and like people always say 
that, like, oh, he didn't lock. 

558
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,600
Owner. 
He didn't he didn't ask for her 

559
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,300
hand, he missed his chance but 
they had only been dating for 

560
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:09,300
six months. 
Yeah he didn't know what was 

561
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:10,500
gonna happen. 
Yeah. 

562
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,600
Yeah. 
I don't think he thought 

563
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,500
anything was going to happen but
what is their plan to like still

564
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,300
a right to each other? 
And I think you together the 

565
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:23,600
thing is also and I don't know 
if this was an official 

566
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,500
conversation he had with his 
parents or his uncle or 

567
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:31,500
anything, but the thing was that
That Charles was supposed to 

568
00:32:31,508 --> 00:32:36,200
marry a virgin, or at least a 
girl that seemed like a virgin. 

569
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,300
Yeah. 
How can you really tell? 

570
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:40,200
But you can't tell. 
But apparently Camilla was the 

571
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,900
type. 
You could tell because she had a

572
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:46,200
lot of boyfriends. 
Yeah. 

573
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,300
And had been with Andrew Parker,
Bowles. 

574
00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:50,000
I don't know. 
I don't know. 

575
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,900
Yeah. 
Apparently people knew I don't 

576
00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:56,100
know how they knew but they knew
and she wasn't like suitable for

577
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:58,300
him. 
And I don't know, I don't have 

578
00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:01,600
like information on this, if he 
had Official talking or 

579
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:07,400
anything, but I think he didn't 
think it was like, acceptable, 

580
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,700
but I think he was just kind of 
not going to do anything about 

581
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:12,400
it, who's gonna just push it off
and I don't know. 

582
00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:15,600
Yeah, he didn't seem like urgent
to get married at this point. 

583
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,500
So, I mean, he's still quite 
young. 

584
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:18,800
Yeah. 
But it seems like he still wants

585
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,200
to be with her. 
Yeah, so I don't know. 

586
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,700
So he left for the Navy. 
I have this quote from one of 

587
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:29,700
his biographers. 
He delivered and hedged his bets

588
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:34,300
until Milla gave up on him, hmm,
But I think he doesn't feel 

589
00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:37,900
ready yet or I don't know, but 
when he returned or while he was

590
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:41,700
away, actually, she became 
engaged to Andrew Parker Bowles 

591
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,900
know eight months he was away. 
Yeah. 

592
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:47,200
Yeah. 
Anything can happen. 

593
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:49,700
I know. 
Eight months. 

594
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:51,900
I'm guessing. 
She didn't know where she stood.

595
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:56,200
Charles, yeah, maybe she thought
there wasn't a future there. 

596
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,700
Yeah. 
And apparently, because they had

597
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:01,700
her and Andrew had been like on,
For seven years and apparently, 

598
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:04,900
her, father, and Andrews. 
Father exasperated. 

599
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:08,500
The Andrew hasn't proposed yet 
and I'm not positive. 

600
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:10,199
This is true, but apparently 
Andrews. 

601
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,600
Cousin had published an 
engagement announcement. 

602
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,300
Before it had happened. 
Forcing his hand. 

603
00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:19,000
I know, that's crazy. 
Wait, let's go back to the 

604
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,400
Virgin thing for a sec. 
Okay. 

605
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,400
Do you think Charles and Camilla
had had sex? 

606
00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:27,699
Yeah, okay. 
That's kind of his bulging 

607
00:34:27,699 --> 00:34:34,900
original, but it's not. 
The heir to the British throne 

608
00:34:34,900 --> 00:34:38,100
to marry a woman who at least 
appeared to be virginal, Camilla

609
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:41,199
had a history and you didn't 
want to pass that hung about 

610
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:43,600
appeared to be that make sense. 
I don't know. 

611
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:45,500
Hey Alma. 
I'm not saying I'm not making 

612
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,600
rules. 
No, I gotta different time. 

613
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,900
Yeah, we're gonna talk and make 
sense. 

614
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,300
I don't know how like official 
that was. 

615
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,400
I don't know if like you said 
like no you're not. 

616
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,500
It's just so funny the appear to
be it doesn't matter if they've 

617
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:00,100
had sex. 
Yeah. 

618
00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:02,500
I'm outer, just have to be like 
they have read about it. 

619
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:07,200
Yeah, apparently she hadn't been
this great about it. 

620
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,000
Yeah, that's so funny. 
I mean, I didn't like you really

621
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,800
like gave off non-virgin Vibes 
but you genuinely were a virgin 

622
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,000
and be so annoying. 
That would be annoying. 

623
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,500
I better happen sometime. 
So apparently, Charles was 

624
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:23,900
blindsided, that Camilla had 
accepted Andrews proposal and he

625
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:26,200
felt. 
He had no one to return home to.

626
00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:29,800
He was also upset that his 
sister had become engaged and he

627
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,200
felt He's losing his sister. 
Really companion. 

628
00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:34,700
That's tough. 
It's like, he's gotta start 

629
00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:35,800
over. 
I know. 

630
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:38,600
And he was invited to the 
wedding, but he didn't go. 

631
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:40,200
It's a Camilla's wedding. 
Yeah. 

632
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,400
Yeah. 
I want to go. 

633
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,000
I know people were like, 
speculating, why? 

634
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,200
But why would he go? 
That's really weird to invite 

635
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:52,200
him in the animals. 
Yeah, he wrote to a friend. 

636
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,700
I guess I can see. 
I shall have to find a wife, 

637
00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:56,600
pretty rapidly. 
Otherwise, I actually get left 

638
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,700
behind and feel very miserable. 
He also wrote that He would be 

639
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:03,600
left, floundering helplessly on 
a shelf somewhere, having missed

640
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,200
everyone. 
That's so sad. 

641
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,500
I know, I guess how he feels 
though. 

642
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,800
That's really tough. 
I know I really feel for him. 

643
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:19,000
He started playing poorly at 
Polo, I guess I'm getting really

644
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,300
angry. 
Um, this has nothing to do 

645
00:36:22,308 --> 00:36:25,500
anything, but he went to 
Portsmouth New Hampshire and he 

646
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:29,500
was enchanted by the town. 
It's only significant because 

647
00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:31,900
we're from New England, England.
Yeah, from New England. 

648
00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:34,300
He loved it. 
That surprised me because I feel

649
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:36,800
like in England, they have so 
many cute tone. 

650
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,400
I know. 
So, here's doing Naval courses. 

651
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,100
He's in the Navy. 
Come on, Andrew, were married, 

652
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:48,000
July 1973. 
So he tries to move on. 

653
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:50,900
Apparently, he almost had a 
thing with Lady. 

654
00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:54,400
Jane Wellesley daughter of the 
eighth Duke of Wellington, but 

655
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,300
the romance went nowhere. 
He tried to be set up with a 

656
00:36:57,308 --> 00:37:01,300
woman named Amanda. 
Then he was A woman named Laura.

657
00:37:01,300 --> 00:37:03,800
Joe Walker's. 
Seems like he's getting around 

658
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,300
quite a bit. 
Well, now he is because he's 

659
00:37:06,300 --> 00:37:07,800
trying to find a wife. 
Yeah. 

660
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,200
Um, dating a woman named Laura 
Joe Watkins daughter of Admiral 

661
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,800
James Watkins. 
He met her in San Diego and he 

662
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,700
even met her parents. 
He seemed really into her. 

663
00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:21,200
I just thought this was a 
heartbreaking thing. 

664
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,900
He said to large, oh, it was so 
beautiful to hear your father 

665
00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:26,400
call, your mother sweetheart 
people. 

666
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,500
Don't say those endearing things
to each other in front of me. 

667
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,100
That's sweet. 
That's sweet that he even said 

668
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:34,900
that, I know. 
But once again, larger was 

669
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:37,200
Catholic and he couldn't marry a
Catholic. 

670
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,700
So was so, why did they even 
waste his time with this stuff? 

671
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,200
He just, he's just attractive to
the wrong people, I guess. 

672
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,000
I don't know. 
He said on record an interview 

673
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:51,100
that he knew his future wife 
would be marrying into a way of 

674
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:53,600
life into a job. 
He said, she's got to have some 

675
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,200
knowledge of it, some sense of 
it or she wouldn't have a clue 

676
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,700
whether she was going to like 
it. 

677
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,900
Hmm and she's and said that. 
Deciding on a mate for life 

678
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:04,800
would be the last decision in 
which I would want my head to be

679
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,700
ruled entirely by my heart. 
Okay. 

680
00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:12,800
Apparently Laura, Joe came to 
visit in England and said that 

681
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,500
Charles was a fabulous lover. 
Wow. 

682
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:20,500
But I feel like later Diana 
said, he wasn't well, maybe not 

683
00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:22,600
to hurt, you know, couldn't 
satisfy her. 

684
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:25,000
I feel like clearly he is too 
coming alone. 

685
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,900
Yeah. 
Um not everyone's I'm bad 

686
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,800
sheets, obvious. 
Imagine the sheets, but I guess 

687
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,600
Laura, Drew, Drew much attention
in the press or something. 

688
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,900
So, she was sent away, but you 
kept in touch with her over 

689
00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:46,100
letters, then he was back in 
touch with Camilla. 

690
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:51,500
Actually, who is now pregnant. 
Oh, but I think just, I don't 

691
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:54,500
think in touch meaning, romantic
struggling because friends. 

692
00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:56,600
Yeah. 
And Charles actually became the 

693
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,700
Godparent to her son Thomas 
Henry Charles Okay, that'd be 

694
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:03,200
kind of weird if you were in 
Drew. 

695
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,200
I know this my rules. 
Yeah. 

696
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,800
Wait, what the middle name is 
Charles? 

697
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,100
Okay, this is the thing. 
I'm his like first row first 

698
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:14,900
certificate, it was Thomas 
Henry, but then his baptism, it 

699
00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:20,300
was Thomas, Henry, Charles. 
Oh, coach reminds me of about 

700
00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:25,400
Jacob. 
What if it's a boy and BJ Edward

701
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,900
just got a fella wants to name 
her son after the The two guys 

702
00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:33,800
in her love triangle like. 
Yeah, that's odd. 

703
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,900
That's so Bella, Camilla Belle 
of her. 

704
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:43,500
And so BJ, Novak of him to be 
the Godparent. 

705
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:47,100
Yes, everything is connecting 
your ex. 

706
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:50,600
Isn't that odd? 
Your ex-boyfriend. 

707
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:52,100
Yeah. 
Is the Godfather. 

708
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,400
Like, that's so weird and weird.
And he was cool with that. 

709
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,600
I know. 
Doesn't she have a younger 

710
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,100
brother? 
She does. 

711
00:39:58,100 --> 00:39:59,200
Like, he could have been the 
Godfather. 

712
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,000
Yeah, you know. 
I feel like Andrew didn't care. 

713
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:06,100
Yeah, he seemed weird. 
Not that committed to her. 

714
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:09,500
Yeah, so Charles continues with 
his life. 

715
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:11,500
He's fox hunting, and playing 
Polo. 

716
00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:15,300
And also, I should say, there's 
so much to say about him, but he

717
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:19,000
was leading like 30 Charities or
something. 

718
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,300
He's insane. 
Yeah, he's doing some so much 

719
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:24,300
charity work. 
Starting all these projects. 

720
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,600
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

721
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,200
So we stayed friends with that 
girl, large. 

722
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,500
Oh apparently she was actually 
at his wedding to Diana. 

723
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,500
Oh wow. 
Oh, I know, June 1975. 

724
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:37,200
He was on leave from active duty
and he was competing in a polo 

725
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,500
tournament, he loves Bungalows. 
Hello Andrew Parker Bowles was 

726
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:44,200
also competing and photographer 
captured Charles and Camilla 

727
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,100
caught in a moment of 
conversation. 

728
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:49,200
Wow. 
Are they competing against each 

729
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,100
other? 
I believe so yeah. 

730
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:55,000
Oh my God, the drama there. 
That's out of a movie. 

731
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,200
Yeah. 
And there's one thing I don't 

732
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,400
know. 
Sorry. 

733
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:07,000
He ended his career at the Royal
Navy, 1976 he launched a charity

734
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,500
called the prince's trust, which
is supposed to help Young 

735
00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:13,100
Troubled, youths, just 
specifically people of color, 

736
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:15,500
think to help them develop 
talents and learn employable 

737
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:17,700
skills. 
Then it kind of went on to being

738
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:20,300
like helping them launch 
businesses, right? 

739
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:21,500
Okay. 
That's nice. 

740
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:24,100
Yeah, and he kind of became a 
vegetarian. 

741
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:31,500
Wow, 100% freegan is my friend 
Abby's halfway Yeah, in the late

742
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:35,700
1970s, apparently His Image and 
tabloids was a Carefree Bachelor

743
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:39,300
popping in and out of bed with 
girls, good, not, you know, not 

744
00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:41,800
very virgin. 
You know, I don't know how true 

745
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,400
that is. 
I mean, maybe he was popping in 

746
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,400
and out of bed with girls, but I
feel like he was never Carefree.

747
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,000
Yeah, no, it seems like it would
mean, if he's an Edward type, I 

748
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,400
think he is always going to be 
pretty anxious about things. 

749
00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:57,800
I don't know. 
I don't know how many girls 

750
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,000
whose with it, like I only know 
a couple need. 

751
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,100
Like doesn't sound that crazy. 
But maybe there's more, he 

752
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:07,300
wanted his own property to 
practice farming for a start and

753
00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:09,600
part of the dream, was to be 
close to Camilla. 

754
00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:13,100
Apparently, they still cross 
paths out in London. 

755
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:17,800
He can't get her off his mind, 
you can't and he apparently said

756
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,200
he regarded her as his best 
friend. 

757
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:25,400
No 1977. 
Camilla was pregnant with her 

758
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,400
second child, who was daughter. 
Sorry, What? 

759
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,700
I just feel bad for the 
daughter. 

760
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:36,500
I was like upset by that. 
Yeah, couldn't light. 

761
00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:41,100
It works out daughter. 
Born New Year's Day by then, her

762
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:42,700
and Andrews. 
Marriage had apparently 

763
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:45,600
hollowed-out. 
Mmm, he was unfaithful. 

764
00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:48,200
Oh yeah, of course, didn't seem 
that promising. 

765
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:51,000
Yeah, journalist some journalist
didn't write his name. 

766
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,900
Sorry. 
But said that Andrew Parker 

767
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:56,000
Bowles went to confession and 
then started all over again. 

768
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,000
Hmm. 
So he just was always cheating 

769
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,200
and apparently Camilla's friends
at this time she gave up on 

770
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,500
Andrew. 
Yeah I'm at this point. 

771
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:08,900
She's been dealing with this for
forever and then meanwhile this 

772
00:43:08,900 --> 00:43:14,300
Prince I never hear this. 
Prince is still keeping in touch

773
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:20,700
with her being her support 
system, why bother with Andrew 

774
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:26,200
Parker Bowles at the Queen's 
1978 Royal Ascot house party? 

775
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,400
Apparently Charles mood 
completely transformed and 

776
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,600
brightened up. 
In the Parker Bowl, showed up. 

777
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:35,900
He was some time at the end of 
that year, their love affair 

778
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:38,800
rekindled while she was still 
married. 

779
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,400
Oh my God. 
She's still married to Andrew p 

780
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,700
b. 
So this is part two of their 

781
00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:51,500
relationship, second time dance.
Got backed to somebody that 

782
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:54,200
worked in the palace. 
Reluctantly told the queen, her 

783
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,300
son was sleeping with a married 
woman and the queen made no 

784
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:01,500
reply but put out the word. 
That Camilla was not to be 

785
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:04,000
invited to any further Royal 
events. 

786
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,800
Oh my God, and I was reading 
this part of the book. 

787
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:15,100
I had taken a completely legal 
treat and I was thinking a lot 

788
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:16,800
of things, you know, it's very 
much worse. 

789
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,600
At this part I was starting to 
get a little overwhelmed. 

790
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,600
I was like, oh my gosh, what is 
this? 

791
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,400
The prince is with a married 
woman? 

792
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:28,200
Are these bad people? 
Am I reading about bad people? 

793
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,400
Am I obsessing over bad? 
People, I was like getting all 

794
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,800
upset but okay, he and your 
fellow pupils is cheating. 

795
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,600
Yeah, first know it's just like 
our Carly and yeah, it was 

796
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,700
episode. 
Yeah. 

797
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,500
Yes, he started if she can do 
whatever she wants. 

798
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:47,500
Yeah, they're not monogamous and
I do think Camilla did love 

799
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:52,600
Andrew actually and would have 
stuck by his side but like why 

800
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,800
should she not this point at 
this point? 

801
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,400
No, no. 
All is fair all's fair but I 

802
00:44:58,408 --> 00:45:01,900
mean, hey, Charles. 
Okay. 

803
00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:07,000
I know, he's so bad. 
Yeah, sneaking around. 

804
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,400
Oh my God. 
Okay. 

805
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,300
But, I mean, probably was good. 
Sign. 

806
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:13,700
Probably was really exciting. 
Yeah. 

807
00:45:13,700 --> 00:45:16,200
I mean, they really loved each 
other. 

808
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,500
Yeah, apparently Charles was 
happy with it. 

809
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:21,900
As it was, he really didn't 
care. 

810
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,100
Like he would have just 
continued to be Camilla's 

811
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:30,000
paramour or whatever forever 
like he was fine with that. 

812
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,900
The setup but he's getting 
pressure to get married. 

813
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:38,300
Yeah and he's what near 30 here?
Yes. 

814
00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:42,800
Yes. 
And one Prospect to Mary was 

815
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,700
ladies Sarah Spencer daughter of
the 8th. 

816
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,700
Earl Spencer hmm. 
He for Diana sister. 

817
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:53,200
Yes he first met Sarah at a 
party at Windsor Castle. 

818
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:58,800
June 1977 they went to a polo 
match later on then she invited 

819
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,200
him to a shooting. 
Like hunting in November and Al 

820
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,200
Thorpe at the Spencer is State. 
And they're so at. 

821
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,400
This point is 28, he met for the
first time, Diana. 

822
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,000
His her sister who was 16 at the
time. 

823
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,800
Oh, so to Sarah and Charles 
dated a little bit, I'm not sure

824
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,300
for how long and she kept like 
newspaper clippings about it, 

825
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:22,900
but apparently she didn't like 
him. 

826
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:26,200
Okay, I don't fancy him. 
You know, and she's following 

827
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,100
her heart here. 
Yeah, good for you. 

828
00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:32,100
Yeah. 
So then He dreaded turning 30 he

829
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:34,300
seemed really stressed about 
marriage. 

830
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:37,600
He wrote to a friend. 
The media will simply not take 

831
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,200
me seriously until I do get 
married and apparently become 

832
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:45,300
responsible. 
Hmm, he actually proposed to 

833
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:48,400
Amanda, who I mentioned earlier 
the effects together. 

834
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,600
I don't really know her just 
like she was actually his second

835
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:54,500
cousin. 
Apparently. 

836
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:57,800
Yeah. 
That's too close related. 

837
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,200
Fourth, maybe technically you 
Mary your second cousin you. 

838
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,800
Technically can marry your first
cousin, really some flavors? 

839
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,400
You can I think in the with the 
Royals, as it was very common. 

840
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,600
Yeah. 
Very common. 

841
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:13,200
Very common on the cell. 
Yeah. 

842
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,600
It wasn't weird to him. 
He proposed she said no. 

843
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,900
Oh, there it is easy. 
As I thought it would be for 

844
00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:27,800
him. 
Nobody. 

845
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,700
He's been like turned on left 
and right. 

846
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:34,200
What don't they see that? 
I see. 

847
00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:38,200
No, but they stayed friends. 
Apparently she went on to become

848
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,000
social worker, they remain. 
Good, friends. 

849
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,900
I just think he's really good at
having platonic female, I know 

850
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:46,300
friends as well. 
Yes, it's very interesting to 

851
00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:47,400
me. 
Yeah. 

852
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,100
Um, in 1979 his uncle 
mountbatten died and he was 

853
00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:55,500
really close to him and he was 
distraught. 

854
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,000
Apparently, he turned to 
Camilla. 

855
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,100
I got confused because I thought
this was the time when he 

856
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:01,100
reunited with Camille. 
But apparently it was a little 

857
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:02,600
earlier. 
So, this is a part 3 and their 

858
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,500
relationship. 
No, this is still party. 

859
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:05,900
Okay. 
So part 2. 

860
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,700
Yeah, he said that. 
Camilla is my best friend and 

861
00:48:10,700 --> 00:48:13,400
now that mountbatten was dead. 
She was really the closest 

862
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,400
person to him. 
Apparently, Camilla's 

863
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,300
grandmother became concerned 
that she was too close to the 

864
00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:23,100
prince. 
Hmm, understand that, and I 

865
00:48:23,107 --> 00:48:26,700
guess one time she was at her 
grandmother's house and the 

866
00:48:26,707 --> 00:48:28,800
prince was coming over to see 
her. 

867
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,500
And someone asked her, are you 
going to change? 

868
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:36,000
Because she was wearing jeans, I
had like no button and do this. 

869
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,600
There's just a safety pin 
keeping it together. 

870
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:42,800
Kind of see her underwear and 
apparently come on, the said oh 

871
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,300
Charles won't mind about that. 
Wow, so they took that to mean. 

872
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:48,900
He's used to wear something 
really. 

873
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:52,100
He's seen them before Scandal 
has and okay this is one of 

874
00:48:52,107 --> 00:48:53,800
those things. 
I don't know if it's true. 

875
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:56,100
It could be complete. 
They might be completely false 

876
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,900
but I guess a servant or 
something. 

877
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,400
Something you know, right? 
Term. 

878
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,500
I don't know. 
That's what the book said. 

879
00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:05,900
A servant claimed to know that 
Charles and Camilla would do it 

880
00:49:05,900 --> 00:49:10,400
in the garden in the garden. 
Wow! 

881
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,700
Outside. 
They loved gardening. 

882
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,800
Oh my god. 
Wow! 

883
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,500
They're taking risks. 
Yeah, there's some story were 

884
00:49:21,500 --> 00:49:24,300
1/7 to another Zone. 
Like heard was like, don't go 

885
00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:27,000
out there. 
Oh my God. 

886
00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:30,900
I know that's hard though. 
She's probably like yeah who 

887
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:37,900
cares about the safety finish? 
It's going to take money by 31. 

888
00:49:37,900 --> 00:49:41,400
He was facing the fact that 
every woman suitable and 

889
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,000
pedigree age, sophistication 
worldliness, and intelligence 

890
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,400
was either married or long. 
Lost her virginity. 

891
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,400
Yeah. 
And I don't know who said this 

892
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,600
is a quote but they said he was 
forced to Rob the Cradle. 

893
00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:56,300
Hmm, I can see that. 
I was gonna say like, Diana. 

894
00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:59,800
It must have been hard for him 
to relate to her. 

895
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,800
Because like, here's Diana has 
best friend almost his equal as 

896
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,900
someone who Milla. 
Yeah. 

897
00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:07,700
Yeah, someone who's, he's never 
equal with other people, because

898
00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:10,800
you have Prince going to be the 
king someday, and then he has to

899
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,000
get with someone. 
I know, you know who so much 

900
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,200
younger than him. 
It just creates a further power 

901
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,100
imbalance and he's such an old 
soul, you know. 

902
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,500
Mmm, really doesn't relate to 
young people so and you're 

903
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:25,900
completely, right? 
So I'm not going to get too into

904
00:50:25,900 --> 00:50:29,200
Diana because this is an episode
about Charles and Camilla. 

905
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,700
Obviously I'm to talk about her 
but I'm not going to get into 

906
00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:34,900
like detail here. 
Maybe someday we'll do Diane and

907
00:50:34,900 --> 00:50:38,100
Charles, maybe someday. 
I'll do Diana and her other 

908
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:40,800
lovers and I don't know. 
But be fun because she's very 

909
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,900
interesting, but I'm not gonna 
get too into it. 

910
00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:48,500
But when they started dating 
Diana was 19 and he was 32 wow, 

911
00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:56,900
very Alanis Morissette. 
Yes, the bed L Smith book. 

912
00:50:56,900 --> 00:51:00,200
She said that the author said in
her words that the Twelve. 

913
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,100
Your age Gap was unbridgeable. 
They had no intellectual 

914
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:06,000
conversations. 
Few mutual, friends. 

915
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,500
No. 
Common interests. 

916
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,200
I think they did both have a 
vague common interest in the 

917
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,200
countryside, but it seems like 
that was kind of fun. 

918
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,100
Charles thought he could grow to
love Diana. 

919
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,000
I mean, I think he was attracted
to her and I think he, in some 

920
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,800
sense, maybe did love her, but I
think they only I didn't write 

921
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,700
it down because like, I didn't 
really Research them, but I 

922
00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:36,100
think they only had spent like 
13. 

923
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:38,200
How many things I like 13 times 
or something before they got 

924
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,300
engaged or something like that. 
Like that sound. 

925
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,600
Maybe 16. 
I forget. 

926
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,200
But it was not that much, you 
know, and I'm sure like a lot of

927
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,300
those times are supervised 
straight. 

928
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:50,000
I'm not sure. 
But yeah, it was they didn't 

929
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,800
know each other that well, but 
yeah, he thought he could grow 

930
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,300
to love Diana. 
He thought it was the right 

931
00:51:55,300 --> 00:51:58,800
thing to do, and he felt 
pressured and panicked and he 

932
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,400
rushed into the Probably 
because, like, all this time ago

933
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,000
and by and all these other 
relationships weren't working 

934
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,100
out. 
Yeah, and Amanda had said no, 

935
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:11,500
and I don't know, he probably 
just didn't know what to do. 

936
00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:16,900
Not I think I could picture 
myself doing that reading about 

937
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:19,200
a Charles. 
I just came away feeling like he

938
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,900
is so human. 
Yeah. 

939
00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:25,900
Well we all are but like he 
really just had to learn their 

940
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:29,800
business takes immense pressure 
on ya to get married in. 

941
00:52:29,900 --> 00:52:33,500
And he's a trying, he's dating a
lot of people and it's not 

942
00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:35,400
working out. 
So he's probably just thinking I

943
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,100
just have to suppress my 
feelings and just do it. 

944
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,900
I mean, people do this all the 
time. 

945
00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:44,600
I think they marry songs. 
I think it's the right thing or 

946
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,700
like they maybe they date 
someone. 

947
00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:48,700
I mean, I feel like I've done 
that. 

948
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:54,000
I was nothing but like you know 
you just it's hard. 

949
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,300
Sometimes you can't tell in the 
book. 

950
00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:57,600
This is the right thing. 
Yeah. 

951
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,600
Oh, they're really great. 
You know, there's some issues 

952
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,200
but You know, they're awesome. 
Yeah and plus the people on the 

953
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,100
outside are probably saying to 
him like Diana's perfect. 

954
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:09,600
Yeah you'd be insane. 
Not to marry her and the woman 

955
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,700
he loves is married to exactly 
nothing. 

956
00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:14,900
You can really do. 
This is the realistic option for

957
00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:17,000
him. 
And you know you guys know if 

958
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,000
you were his friend you would be
telling him be with Diana view. 

959
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,700
Diane we have said, keep 
pursuing the married woman. 

960
00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:27,900
You wouldn't have said it. 
Okay, if you like forget about 

961
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:33,100
her, To him later on. 
I know when he starts to follow 

962
00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:37,100
his heart. 
It's so sad though because he 

963
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:39,700
said like, he didn't want to 
make the decision only with his 

964
00:53:39,700 --> 00:53:41,200
heart. 
Mmm. 

965
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:43,600
If you did, follow his heart. 
Yeah, he would have been with 

966
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,900
Camilla. 
Mmm. 

967
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,900
But why isn't she getting 
divorced? 

968
00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:50,200
Oh, I guess like, she will, she 
will. 

969
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,600
So he became engaged to Diana, 
February 28th, 1991. 

970
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,700
And then this is when that Fame 
is interview happens where the 

971
00:53:58,700 --> 00:54:01,900
interview ask them if they're 
Love and she says core, so he 

972
00:54:01,900 --> 00:54:05,700
says whatever in love means. 
But then he said, okay, I 

973
00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:07,800
actually watch this like five 
times in a row. 

974
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:11,100
I feel like this is Charles. 
I know it's annoying to some 

975
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:13,400
people, but I feel like I get 
what he's doing here. 

976
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:15,600
It was the wrong time to do it. 
Yeah. 

977
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,800
But he was trying to be like, 
philosophical because he goes 

978
00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:23,500
whatever in love means, whatever
your interpretation. 

979
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:26,600
And then the guy says, like very
happy together, something like 

980
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,000
that. 
And goes, yes, so like he Did 

981
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,100
say yes, but like he was being 
annoying. 

982
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:35,100
I fall asleep takes her. 
So I do think to myself, what 

983
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:37,400
does in love me? 
That's what he meant. 

984
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,700
Yeah. 
People how people act like in 

985
00:54:39,700 --> 00:54:43,800
love is like, you can measure it
or something with like you take 

986
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,700
a thermometer and it says up 
you're at the point where in 

987
00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:50,000
love or something like it is. 
So abstract, is it, is it just a

988
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,300
feeling because feelings pass? 
Yeah. 

989
00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:57,600
You know what I mean? 
Is it, is it like just being, 

990
00:54:57,900 --> 00:54:59,700
like, really caring about 
someone really strong? 

991
00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:02,100
Like, what is it? 
I know. 

992
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,700
Yeah, and it does mean something
different to everybody, but 

993
00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:08,800
yeah, probably wasn't in love 
with her when I'm really not. 

994
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:15,000
But yeah, I really don't think 
he meant it callously or like 

995
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,900
bad timing. 
Yeah, he shouldn't, that was not

996
00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:23,400
the time to be like, oh my God, 
someone said that I liked about 

997
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,000
me. 
Yeah, I would be very insecure 

998
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,700
about for Dino. 
I do feel bad / 2. 

999
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,100
Apparently, he was upset though 
that people always misquoted it 

1000
00:55:32,100 --> 00:55:35,600
and said, whatever. 
Of means, he's like, no in love.

1001
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,600
Yeah, in in. 
That's what I was pondering. 

1002
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,400
Um, but yeah. 
Diana. 

1003
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,700
You're right. 
Like seemed perfect. 

1004
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,200
She was 40 enthusiastic 
sensitive open. 

1005
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,500
And from the Spencer's, which is
one of England's, oldest 

1006
00:55:51,500 --> 00:55:55,000
families, but some of us friends
did worry actually that they had

1007
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,900
nothing in common, besides 
liking the countryside and 

1008
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,800
worried that Diana had fall in 
love with the idea. 

1009
00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:07,000
The idea not Him as a person. 
Yeah, which I was wondering 

1010
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,600
because later on it seems like 
Diana hates everything about 

1011
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:11,900
him. 
And maybe it's just because of 

1012
00:56:11,900 --> 00:56:14,300
the whole Camilla thing which is
totally understandable, but I 

1013
00:56:14,308 --> 00:56:17,000
was wondering, why did Diana 
even want to marry him? 

1014
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,700
Yeah, it just because he was 
young and was excited to be a 

1015
00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:23,500
princess, but did she love him? 
We'll have to cover it. 

1016
00:56:23,500 --> 00:56:25,800
Yeah. 
Only, if her own sister like, 

1017
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,400
wasn't even really feeling it 
she--'cause. 

1018
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,200
She seems to just like roll her 
eyes at everything. 

1019
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,900
He does later on like all Is 
interested like, oh my God, 

1020
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:38,300
you're so annoying. 
So, I just don't know. 

1021
00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:41,300
Did she actually loved him? 
I wonder. 

1022
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:45,400
Yeah, I mean, maybe. 
I assumed she didn't like, 

1023
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,900
that's why she was so 
heartbroken. 

1024
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,600
But maybe she just didn't like 
to be disrespected, obviously, 

1025
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,500
which I don't blame her. 
Yeah, she probably did. 

1026
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,900
And, apparently Camilla 
encouraged Charles to marry her 

1027
00:56:55,900 --> 00:56:59,000
and wanted them to be happy. 
And Camilla said she would use 

1028
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,700
this as an opportunity to make 
her marriage work to, oh, that's

1029
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:03,700
mature. 
Forever. 

1030
00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:07,200
So this is kind of part 2, of 
Charles and Camilla. 

1031
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,100
This is a play. 
I know there's three acts. 

1032
00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:13,400
I would say. 
Yeah, Charles and Diana had a 

1033
00:57:13,408 --> 00:57:16,900
new estate and it was 15 minutes
away from Camilla. 

1034
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,300
Oh, so even though Charles and 
Camilla, I had agreed to, like, 

1035
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:24,000
not be romantic anymore. 
They never stopped being 

1036
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,100
friends. 
And that's the dream died. 

1037
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:27,100
And I'm crazy. 
Yeah. 

1038
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:30,400
That yeah, yeah. 
I don't think we've talked about

1039
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,200
this before, but like, I don't 
think you can really get over 

1040
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,300
someone when you're Still 
hanging out with them. 

1041
00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:36,000
I agree. 
You know, I agree. 

1042
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,800
And yeah, the thing is like I 
say I was watching some video 

1043
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,900
the other day, why it's smoked 
so important. 

1044
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:44,300
Like, if you're going to get 
married, you're looking for 

1045
00:57:44,300 --> 00:57:48,100
partnership that the face of 
that is friendship for 

1046
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:49,800
everything else because 
everything else is going to 

1047
00:57:49,808 --> 00:57:52,500
fade, but friendship is the only
thing that will last when you're

1048
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:53,600
older. 
Yeah. 

1049
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:56,500
And it doesn't seem like he had 
friendship with Diana. 

1050
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,200
Yeah. 
So how dangerous is that is that

1051
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,000
you have someone who you're 
still physically attracted to 

1052
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,400
that, you have a strong 
friendship. 

1053
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:06,500
Always going to override just 
the physical track. 

1054
00:58:06,500 --> 00:58:10,300
Yeah, that's a good point. 
I don't even know if you had was

1055
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:12,700
physically attracted to Diana. 
I'm guessing she's beautiful 

1056
00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:18,700
and, but I'm guessing he was. 
Yeah, he was and, but Camilla's 

1057
00:58:18,700 --> 00:58:20,700
definitely going to fill a void.
That Diana can never. 

1058
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:22,600
It didn't have a friendship. 
That's true. 

1059
00:58:22,700 --> 00:58:24,100
They didn't really know each 
other that. 

1060
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:27,800
Well like they didn't know each 
other deeply but he was, he was 

1061
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,100
worried. 
What? 

1062
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:32,900
Diana was getting into but he 
felt worried that he would let 

1063
00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:34,800
One down. 
If you didn't marry her. 

1064
00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:36,900
Yeah. 
I mean people were like freaking

1065
00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:40,000
out, they love doing and I like,
he couldn't back out. 

1066
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,400
Now, you know, Apparently after 
their, I feel like you've seen a

1067
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:48,600
lie after their engagement Diana
overheard, Charles murmuring to 

1068
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,100
Camilla on the phone and she 
asked Charles, if he still loved

1069
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:56,400
Camilla and he said she's one of
my most intimate friends, but 

1070
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,100
that their intimacy had ended, 
but it wasn't really a clear 

1071
00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:01,100
answer. 
Not what you want to hear. 

1072
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:05,100
No, it's a yes or no question. 
He's sometimes he's a cannot 

1073
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:08,000
help, but tell the truth. 
It's like you just got it. 

1074
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,700
Yeah, right. 
Think. 

1075
00:59:09,700 --> 00:59:15,600
Sometimes he can't after this 
was bad after him and I and I 

1076
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,800
became engaged, he then went on 
a six-month tour around the 

1077
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,800
world for, like, Royal duties 
where it, he does alone. 

1078
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,700
Yeah, loan. 
So like they had just become 

1079
00:59:24,700 --> 00:59:27,700
engaged, but then he left for 
six months, things, barely know 

1080
00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:30,600
each other. 
You're not good, no more any 

1081
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,200
better than you got back. 
I know. 

1082
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,800
This is really bad. 
Set up and while he was away. 

1083
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:40,000
Apparently Diana and Camilla had
lunch together who's that? 

1084
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,700
That up. 
Camilla did and Diana became 

1085
00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:45,800
very suspicious of their past 
relationship. 

1086
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,300
Yeah I bet a lot was revealed 
during that lunch. 

1087
00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:54,500
Yeah, some trousers back and no 
wedding plans going on and I 

1088
00:59:54,508 --> 00:59:58,400
guess the Charles some reason 
got all his friends gifts for 

1089
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,700
the wedding. 
Actually, it's other way around,

1090
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:04,100
but I guess when you're a prince
you that I And he got a gold 

1091
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:08,000
bracelet for Camilla, and this 
was kind of, like in the Spencer

1092
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,100
movie, they did like their own 
version of this, you know? 

1093
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,700
Yeah, he got a gold bracelet for
Camila and had the letters. 

1094
01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:19,100
GF engraved engraved in it which
stood for Girl, Friday his 

1095
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:24,300
nickname for her girl, Friday. 
Yeah, girl, Friday and Diana 

1096
01:00:24,300 --> 01:00:27,400
found the bracelet and assumed 
the initial stood for Gladys and

1097
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,800
Fred from the Goon show which 
Charles and Camilla loved and to

1098
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,200
die. 
And I represented the There's a 

1099
01:00:33,207 --> 01:00:36,600
couple. 
I was just think girls, I know I

1100
01:00:36,607 --> 01:00:40,000
told you to but wait, so why 
does he call her girl, Friday? 

1101
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,100
I don't know. 
That's weird. 

1102
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:42,700
This is nickname for her. 
I guess. 

1103
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,600
He insisted on giving Camilla 
the bracelet in person and him 

1104
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,500
and Dinah had a whole fight 
about it. 

1105
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,700
And I guess after the wedding 
rehearsal, Diana broke down. 

1106
01:00:52,700 --> 01:00:55,800
Sobbing. 
Her eyes out over it, not a good

1107
01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:02,100
start the wedding rehearsal. 
It's okay. 

1108
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:05,800
Then this Is, I think purely 
gossip and I really hope it's 

1109
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,900
not true. 
I don't think so lined item 

1110
01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:11,100
mind. 
I know it's like kind of there 

1111
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:14,000
were rumors that Charles and 
Camilla slept together, the 

1112
01:01:14,008 --> 01:01:16,500
night after the wedding 
rehearsal. 

1113
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,700
That's quite the Scandal. 
I Andrew Parker, Bowles denied 

1114
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:21,200
it. 
How does he know? 

1115
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,100
I don't know. 
I believed it. 

1116
01:01:25,300 --> 01:01:27,000
I don't know. 
It was like some Diana heard 

1117
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:27,800
this from. 
Yeah. 

1118
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,600
Okay. 
So those are rumors circulating 

1119
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:30,300
at the time. 
Yeah. 

1120
01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:35,600
I'm at the And I believe it. 
Now, I don't know, I got her 

1121
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,200
know how Andrew Parker Bowles 
know. 

1122
01:01:38,300 --> 01:01:41,000
He's, he's trying to save face 
and he's kind of been very, very

1123
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,200
easy to be cheated on. 
He did, Charlie did send Diana 

1124
01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:47,600
letter like I didn't do any 
research on day and I'm really 

1125
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,900
but like this just came up in 
the books is reading. 

1126
01:01:49,900 --> 01:01:53,400
He sent her a letter the day 
before the wedding saying I'm so

1127
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,000
proud of you and when you come 
up I'll be there at the altar 

1128
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,600
for you tomorrow. 
Just look him in the eye and 

1129
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,600
knock them dead. 
Wow, wait, who said that? 

1130
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,500
Charles To Diana Diana. 
Oh, that's sweet. 

1131
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,100
Yeah, it's sweet. 
So, it's confusing. 

1132
01:02:08,300 --> 01:02:10,200
I think he really did want to 
love Diana. 

1133
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:16,000
He meets genuinely had like not 
feelings for her but yeah. 

1134
01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:19,700
Didn't have any ill will towards
her and felt bad for her. 

1135
01:02:19,700 --> 01:02:23,600
I think he did and then I guess 
the night before the wedding 

1136
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:29,200
this is in the Sally. 
Bedell book apparently Charles 

1137
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,800
was in a contemplative mood 
looking out the window at the 

1138
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,500
fireworks. 
I don't know how he got a loan, 

1139
01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:37,300
like, I've known, you would 
think he would be with all these

1140
01:02:37,300 --> 01:02:38,600
people. 
But apparently, he's alone, he 

1141
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,200
started crying and his friend, 
Steven Barry. 

1142
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,800
I don't know who that is. 
Asked him what was wrong and 

1143
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,300
Charles said, is it possible to 
love two women at the same time?

1144
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:53,300
The kalevala was so true, very 
Twilight. 

1145
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,500
I wonder if Charles is seen her 
but I don't know. 

1146
01:02:57,500 --> 01:03:00,900
I feel like that might bring up 
a lot of, you know, he might 

1147
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:04,500
relate, I thought you legs. 
If Only when I'm sure someone 

1148
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,900
realizes small podcast have 
that's royal family. 

1149
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:11,200
Oh yeah, I think well. 
I think we're like the queen 

1150
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,800
bust. 
Ya, nice. 

1151
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,100
Probably right. 
Camila has come Melody. 

1152
01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:20,400
Yeah. 
Okay, so during Charles and 

1153
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,400
Diana's wedding, this is so bad.
Apparently, Diana was so fixated

1154
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,600
on Camilla, who's there? 
Yeah, but as she walked up the 

1155
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,700
aisle, she looked everywhere 
until she found her during the 

1156
01:03:30,700 --> 01:03:31,700
wedding. 
Yeah. 

1157
01:03:32,500 --> 01:03:38,600
Ah, That's bad. 
I know I feel bad for her so she

1158
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:43,200
found her Nemesis it said so now
Charles and Diana are married 

1159
01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:45,200
and I was telling you that the 
other day I was watching their 

1160
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,700
wedding video and I felt so 
overwhelmed. 

1161
01:03:48,900 --> 01:03:51,500
I like almost started crying. 
It was just so. 

1162
01:03:51,900 --> 01:03:54,000
Oh my gosh. 
Wouldn't like they come out and 

1163
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,900
they go on this carriage and 
this whole crowd of people. 

1164
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,100
I'll cheer. 
That's my technique though. 

1165
01:03:59,500 --> 01:04:01,700
Crowds crowds Kelly's the same 
way. 

1166
01:04:01,700 --> 01:04:02,900
Yeah. 
Crowds of people. 

1167
01:04:03,700 --> 01:04:06,500
We'll get me emotional. 
Unlike anything else especially 

1168
01:04:06,500 --> 01:04:08,300
Applause. 
Yes, Applause. 

1169
01:04:08,300 --> 01:04:11,800
Like makes me instantly cry. 
I was so overwhelmed. 

1170
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,200
It was beautiful honestly, and I
was happy for them. 

1171
01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:22,100
Yeah, I'm getting overwhelmed. 
Okay, so they're married. 

1172
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:26,000
Now, we spent time together, 
obviously went on a honeymoon, 

1173
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:28,800
but Charles still needed his 
alone. 

1174
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,100
Time to paint read and write 
letters and it bothered Diana. 

1175
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,800
A long time is amazing. 
I know. 

1176
01:04:35,900 --> 01:04:37,900
Diana. 
Apparently found pictures of 

1177
01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:42,100
Camilla in his diary, as well as
cufflinks with entwines. 

1178
01:04:42,100 --> 01:04:45,200
He's so she kind of freaked out 
about that. 

1179
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,800
Yeah. 
And yeah, Charles as time went 

1180
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,800
on, went to think that Diana had
no Hobbies or inner resources. 

1181
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:58,500
So I feel like I'm gonna say 
more about this but I really 

1182
01:04:58,500 --> 01:05:01,100
feel like they just didn't go 
together. 

1183
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:02,900
Yeah, they just were not 
compatible. 

1184
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:05,100
Out of but they didn't have a 
strong Foundation. 

1185
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:06,200
Yeah. 
Start. 

1186
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:07,800
Like they needed that 
friendship? 

1187
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,800
Yeah. 
To begin their relationship 

1188
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,100
because obviously I think Diana 
did have hobbies. 

1189
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:17,600
Like I think she's remembered as
being a very interesting person 

1190
01:05:17,900 --> 01:05:20,000
but he just can't see it. 
Because they just weren't 

1191
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:24,700
aligned. 
Hmm and as time went on Diana, 

1192
01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:28,100
became much more popular than 
Charles with the public as 

1193
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:32,800
probably everybody knows she 
became pregnant and when she 

1194
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,700
Three months, pregnant. 
Apparently, she discovered love 

1195
01:05:35,700 --> 01:05:38,700
letters between Charles and 
Camilla in his desk drawer. 

1196
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:41,000
I think they were old but I'm 
not sure. 

1197
01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:52,600
She's very upset. 
I think, right outside. 

1198
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:57,700
I'm just gonna Actually, I might
go to bathroom right now. 

1199
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,400
Okay, I'm just gonna leave it 
going though. 

1200
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:07,100
Skirt kind of a classic screwed 
mine. 

1201
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,500
We have with us here a little 
tin. 

1202
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:15,600
Yes, I got an antique store has 
Charles and Diana on it. 

1203
01:06:15,900 --> 01:06:18,500
What does it say? 
The Marriage of the Prince of 

1204
01:06:18,500 --> 01:06:23,300
Wales and Lady Diana, Spencer 
29, July 1981. 

1205
01:06:23,300 --> 01:06:26,800
People were so excited about 
that wedding and it seems like 

1206
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:31,000
it's like the pressure not only 
for him to get married. 

1207
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,700
It's kind of a business 
opportunity. 

1208
01:06:35,500 --> 01:06:39,200
I would imagine there's a lot of
Draw that there with the 

1209
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,600
wedding, even though it's 
expensive to throw it, but 

1210
01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:43,600
there's like little things like 
that. 

1211
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,700
Like that people can buy 
merchandise about the happy 

1212
01:06:46,700 --> 01:06:51,400
couple and people get really 
into nationalism celebrate the 

1213
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,700
wedding. 
So I feel like, yeah, this is 

1214
01:06:53,700 --> 01:06:58,000
Beckett development. 
Yeah, hmm, people need that, 

1215
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,800
mmm, doesn't seem very 
specially. 

1216
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,600
I don't know what else was going
on, like, in the world at that 

1217
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,500
point. 
What time, 81 81. 

1218
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,700
I don't know because it's always
something going on. 

1219
01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:17,300
Yeah, back to the story. 
Diana was three months pregnant 

1220
01:07:17,300 --> 01:07:20,400
when she discovered love letters
between Charles and Camilla and 

1221
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,600
his desk drawer that's upsetting
and apparently she fell down the

1222
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,900
stairs on purpose, which is 
crazy. 

1223
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:30,800
I don't know if that's true. 
I don't know. 

1224
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,700
That doesn't sound. 
It's been recounted a couple 

1225
01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:35,900
times but the baby was okay, 
luckily and so is shirt. 

1226
01:07:35,900 --> 01:07:40,000
So is she Charles that? 
Had violent mood swings and 

1227
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,400
self-pity, which he also has 
been accused of having 

1228
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,700
self-pity. 
So, I don't know. 

1229
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,200
I do think Diana had a lot of 
mental health issues. 

1230
01:07:50,900 --> 01:07:55,400
And I don't think Charles knew 
how to deal with that in the 

1231
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,100
battle Smith book. 
I hope I'm saying her last name,

1232
01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:01,100
right. 
Um she said that Diana resisted 

1233
01:08:01,100 --> 01:08:04,100
treatment for mental health 
which she saw as a way to 

1234
01:08:04,100 --> 01:08:07,600
control her but I am confused 
about that because I also 

1235
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,800
thought I've read before that, 
like nobody really helped her 

1236
01:08:11,900 --> 01:08:13,900
get help. 
So I don't know what the truth 

1237
01:08:13,900 --> 01:08:15,800
is with that. 
But yeah, were they trying to 

1238
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,399
help her? 
I don't completely know. 

1239
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,300
I guess. 
Charles tried to appease her and

1240
01:08:22,300 --> 01:08:26,500
please her for a while, but I 
think it started to where it him

1241
01:08:27,500 --> 01:08:30,500
and started fighting a lot. 
Like they had fights about 

1242
01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:33,899
things, like her being late to 
the Festival of remembrance to 

1243
01:08:33,899 --> 01:08:35,800
commemorate the British board 
dead. 

1244
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,500
They want a big fight about 
that, I guess like Just things 

1245
01:08:38,500 --> 01:08:41,000
like that. 
And like this is how I think 

1246
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,200
first of all, I think that they 
didn't have much in common and 

1247
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,700
we're a great match but also 
think that they kind of suffer 

1248
01:08:46,700 --> 01:08:48,800
from the same things. 
Yeah. 

1249
01:08:48,899 --> 01:08:53,800
And I think they both struggled 
with the loneliness and the 

1250
01:08:53,808 --> 01:08:56,600
criticism in the embarrassment 
of everything. 

1251
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:00,100
And I think if frustrated 
Charles that he felt like she 

1252
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:01,899
couldn't just deal with it like 
he did. 

1253
01:09:01,899 --> 01:09:04,700
But of course he had like, his 
whole life to learn how to deal 

1254
01:09:04,700 --> 01:09:06,300
with it. 
Yeah, you do it? 

1255
01:09:06,899 --> 01:09:09,700
Yeah, I think. 
I think because they both were 

1256
01:09:09,700 --> 01:09:13,300
kind of needy people in a way 
they, you know, they couldn't 

1257
01:09:13,300 --> 01:09:15,800
help each other. 
Ya know, they both had something

1258
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,399
lacking. 
Yeah, yeah, actually Princess 

1259
01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:22,800
Margaret probably said, they 
were two very needy people, so I

1260
01:09:22,808 --> 01:09:27,300
don't know, but she was okay and
gave birth to William. 

1261
01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:32,200
June. 21st 1982, I'm sure you 
guys know, Prince, William and 

1262
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:36,600
William's. 
Yes, there was continued 

1263
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,399
suspicions about Camila. 
No, she's always like in the 

1264
01:09:39,899 --> 01:09:41,300
game. 
Yeah. 

1265
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,800
Oh, wait, apparently Diana 
called Camilla, the Rottweiler 

1266
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:50,200
while Camilla called Diana. 
That ridiculous creature. 

1267
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:55,000
Oh, so things are heating up. 
What kind of really pass when 

1268
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,900
they just got lunch together? 
No, we are. 

1269
01:09:58,500 --> 01:10:02,000
I have this quote, so I called, 
okay. 

1270
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:07,300
This is from The Daily Express. 
Said that psychologists might 

1271
01:10:07,300 --> 01:10:10,000
say that for a man. 
I don't know why I put this 

1272
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,800
quote here, because I feel like 
should have been way later. 

1273
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,100
But psychologists might say that
for a man who had precious 

1274
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:16,900
little mothering during his 
formative years. 

1275
01:10:16,900 --> 01:10:18,900
Camilla wood. 
And other sick. 

1276
01:10:18,900 --> 01:10:21,700
Circumstances be Charles's ideal
partner. 

1277
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,100
So, I don't know. 
I guess he just saw her is kind 

1278
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:25,900
of a mother. 
I was thinking that, too. 

1279
01:10:25,900 --> 01:10:27,900
I mean, she's a little bit older
than him. 

1280
01:10:27,900 --> 01:10:28,800
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1281
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,200
Someone who hasn't had any 
mothering his childhood. 

1282
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,300
And how's that void? 
He shouldn't be with someone 

1283
01:10:34,300 --> 01:10:35,400
younger than him. 
Yeah, I know. 

1284
01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:38,800
I don't think heat that's what 
he really wanted. 

1285
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:43,800
So a year after their marriage 
saying it was getting all the 

1286
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:48,300
attention in the Press but and 
they were fighting but Charles 

1287
01:10:48,300 --> 01:10:51,600
and Diana wanted to have be 
Hands-On parents and they seemed

1288
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,200
happy parenting William 
together. 

1289
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:57,300
Actually but they did have 
increasingly more fights when 

1290
01:10:57,300 --> 01:11:00,200
they weren't with William. 
And apparently, Diana would say 

1291
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,200
things like you'll never be 
king. 

1292
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,600
And you look ridiculous and all 
those metals. 

1293
01:11:05,500 --> 01:11:08,200
Hmm. 
And his cousin said that after 

1294
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:12,900
one argument, he was kneeling to
pray before bed and Diana was 

1295
01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:15,000
hitting him over the head and 
kept fighting while he's 

1296
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,700
praying. 
It doesn't sound healthy. 

1297
01:11:18,700 --> 01:11:23,200
I mean, I know he probably upset
her because he could be like 

1298
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:26,900
distant. 
And probably said weird things, 

1299
01:11:26,900 --> 01:11:30,000
like whatever in love means and 
and the whole Camilla thing, 

1300
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,200
like I don't think he's totally 
innocent like I can see why he 

1301
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:39,500
maybe would Upset her, but I do 
think she could be mean back to 

1302
01:11:39,500 --> 01:11:43,100
him. 
Yeah, you know, I believe it and

1303
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:47,400
I adore Diana just like 
everybody else, but I just think

1304
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,400
when two people are not imagine 
they're not meant to be 

1305
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,300
together, there's neither of 
them are right or wrong. 

1306
01:11:52,300 --> 01:11:56,500
It's just never gonna work out. 
It's sad. 

1307
01:11:57,700 --> 01:12:00,200
Yeah, Diana didn't want him to 
see any of his friends or in the

1308
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:04,600
same circle is Camila anymore. 
Apparently, she able also I 

1309
01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:08,100
didn't want him to have his dog 
from that time. 

1310
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:11,400
Harvey and Harvey was banished 
live with an advisor. 

1311
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,400
Okay, that's I'm not, that's not
fair. 

1312
01:12:14,900 --> 01:12:20,400
I yeah I don't don't like that. 
He got another dog but when he 

1313
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,600
should not be keeping in touch, 
I commit I know he shouldn't he 

1314
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,800
should not. 
He did get another dog. 

1315
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,500
What Dianna don't like that dog 
either. 

1316
01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:30,600
Okay. 
Charles and Diana did like rock 

1317
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,300
music though and like they kind 
of bonded because he would throw

1318
01:12:33,300 --> 01:12:37,800
these like concerts Benefit his 
charity, the prince's trust, 

1319
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,800
like the money would go towards 
it, so I think she liked that 

1320
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:45,900
and, um, 1983 Thanos pregnant 
again. 

1321
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:49,300
Charles wanted it to be a girl. 
And apparently Danna knew it was

1322
01:12:49,300 --> 01:12:51,800
a boy from an ultrasound, but 
kept that from her husband, 

1323
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,900
until she gave birth. 
Oh, wow. 

1324
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,200
And I know that people speculate
the Harry's, not really his 

1325
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,900
child. 
You have anything on that. 

1326
01:12:58,900 --> 01:13:03,000
I don't have anything on me. 
I mean it's just rumors so but 

1327
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,700
don't need entertain it. 
Read that I think there were 

1328
01:13:06,700 --> 01:13:09,700
redheads in his family. 
Yeah, I don't think it's crazy 

1329
01:13:09,700 --> 01:13:11,600
for a redhead to be. 
Yeah. 

1330
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,100
Because it was something about 
like he says I'm like oh has 

1331
01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:18,700
Ginger hair but like there were 
people in his family with yeah 

1332
01:13:18,700 --> 01:13:22,600
and hair so I don't know. 
I don't think it's like that 

1333
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,700
absurd. 
Yeah, I think I don't know. 

1334
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,500
I I didn't read anything about 
that. 

1335
01:13:28,500 --> 01:13:33,100
Didn't come up, Charles Charles,
yes print in town. 

1336
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,700
So Prince Henry Hey, Charles 
Albert. 

1337
01:13:35,700 --> 01:13:39,500
David Bornstein a fifteenth 
nineteen for Prince Harry. 

1338
01:13:40,100 --> 01:13:44,000
I guess after Harry Osborn, that
was kind of like the end of 

1339
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,900
Charles and Diana's marriage 
sexually know how people know 

1340
01:13:47,900 --> 01:13:50,700
that. 
But I feel like there's so much 

1341
01:13:50,700 --> 01:13:53,500
known about the Royals. 
It's like another level. 

1342
01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:55,600
Yeah. 
Compared to theirs will 

1343
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,100
celebrities. 
Yeah, it's just crazy. 

1344
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,300
Charles moved into his own 
bedroom, I guess. 

1345
01:14:01,300 --> 01:14:03,200
And he brought his old teddy 
bear. 

1346
01:14:05,500 --> 01:14:11,000
I don't know, let's see. 
Um he obses t'set prime 

1347
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,700
minister, Margaret Thatcher 
because he said something about,

1348
01:14:14,900 --> 01:14:17,600
he wanted to force his way 
through parliamentary red tape 

1349
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,400
and save the city from being 
split in two halves and Have 

1350
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,600
Nots. 
And apparently prime minister 

1351
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,400
therapist. 
That true told him I run this 

1352
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,500
country, not you sir. 
Yeah. 

1353
01:14:27,500 --> 01:14:31,600
Um and he opposed the 
conservative government policies

1354
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,100
but the royal family isn't 
supposed to get involved in. 

1355
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:37,500
Politics. 
So wait, what did he say? 

1356
01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:39,800
Sorry, just a good piece of 
these. 

1357
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,800
Are you want to save the city 
from being split in two halves 

1358
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,600
and have not always, that's 
good. 

1359
01:14:45,300 --> 01:14:48,300
I'm sorry, it's okay. 
I just made me sound like I was 

1360
01:14:48,300 --> 01:14:50,500
like, I don't know. 
I mean, some people might agree 

1361
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:54,200
with you, he wasn't supposed to 
be saying, things like that, but

1362
01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:55,700
I don't know. 
I guess the royal family is 

1363
01:14:55,708 --> 01:14:58,600
supposed to always stay like 
neutral, like they don't get 

1364
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,800
involved and put make sense. 
Yeah. 

1365
01:15:00,900 --> 01:15:02,900
No. 
But he had a, he had a good, his

1366
01:15:02,900 --> 01:15:04,100
heart was in the right. 
Yes. 

1367
01:15:04,100 --> 01:15:07,900
Yeah. 
So, I guess by 1986 after five 

1368
01:15:07,900 --> 01:15:11,400
years of marriage and lots of 
misery, apparently, Marl. 

1369
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:16,200
Marl, apparently, Charles had 
given up Charles, truly 

1370
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,900
believed, he had turned himself 
inside and out for Diana, but he

1371
01:15:19,907 --> 01:15:23,000
couldn't do it anymore Up For 
Debate. 

1372
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:25,400
If you did turn himself inside 
and out, I don't know. 

1373
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,000
I think they're just 
incompatible. 

1374
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,700
Make your like heart, love 
someone that you just do not 

1375
01:15:30,700 --> 01:15:32,200
love. 
I know. 

1376
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,800
I understand that. 
Yeah, he can't. 

1377
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,200
Himself to feel what he doesn't 
feel. 

1378
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:41,900
Yeah, it's sad. 
So, this is when I would say, 

1379
01:15:41,900 --> 01:15:44,300
act 3, started Camilo. 
Okay? 

1380
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:50,000
In 1986. 
She was 39 and he was 37. 

1381
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,000
So at this point, while he's 
been married, they haven't been 

1382
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,400
sleeping together, right? 
They were but not since Harry 

1383
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:02,600
was born, I guess. 
Okay no I mean him and oh no I'm

1384
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:06,200
Camilla have not now okay. 
And there's conflicting things 

1385
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,300
about whether they eat or even 
like talking or I don't think 

1386
01:16:10,300 --> 01:16:13,700
they were in touch as much as 
they used to be. 

1387
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:18,900
Hmm he's just on his mind. 
Yeah and I think they still see 

1388
01:16:18,900 --> 01:16:22,000
them sometimes the 
parker-bowles, both Charles and 

1389
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,200
Camilla enjoyed hunting 
gardening and painting and 

1390
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,000
apparently he felt no. 
Else understood him like Camilla

1391
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:32,700
did and later on, when, like the
news of all this came out 

1392
01:16:32,700 --> 01:16:35,800
prince, the prince was adamant 
that he's only with Camilla 

1393
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,900
after his marriage had broken 
down and his friends said that 

1394
01:16:39,900 --> 01:16:44,600
he had virtually no contact with
Camilla, from 1981 to 1986, but 

1395
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,300
as I just said, others say that 
they were in touch. 

1396
01:16:47,300 --> 01:16:49,800
So hmm. 
Who knows? 

1397
01:16:49,900 --> 01:16:52,100
When asked about it in 1995 Dan 
Diana? 

1398
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:54,400
Said, she did know about Charles
and Camilla zafer. 

1399
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,600
She said, yes I did. 
Did. 

1400
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,200
Yes. 
I was but it wasn't in a 

1401
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,400
position to do anything about 
it. 

1402
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:04,300
Yeah. 
Oh I said read page 239 but I 

1403
01:17:04,300 --> 01:17:07,300
didn't say why, let's see what 
it says. 

1404
01:17:07,300 --> 01:17:15,200
Let's find out. 
Oh my God. 

1405
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:21,500
Okay, so here's adamant that at 
the start of the marriage, at 

1406
01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:26,100
least he turned to Camilla, 
simply for Solace, not for sex. 

1407
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,300
Camilla was a have that he could
not break an obsession. 

1408
01:17:29,300 --> 01:17:33,000
He did not want to conquer said 
Stephen, Barry. 

1409
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:34,500
Oh yeah. 
He came up earlier, Barry claim 

1410
01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:37,100
that even in the immediate 
aftermath of his marriage 

1411
01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:40,700
Charles would telephone Camilla 
from his office most days? 

1412
01:17:40,700 --> 01:17:43,000
It was impossible. 
If it was impossible to call, he

1413
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,300
would write a letter which would
be smuggled out without the 

1414
01:17:45,300 --> 01:17:48,300
princess's knowledge. 
It was extraordinary The Prince 

1415
01:17:48,300 --> 01:17:50,600
and we had to be in constant 
contact with Camilla, or you 

1416
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,300
could not function properly. 
If he went without his daily 

1417
01:17:53,300 --> 01:17:58,100
phone call, who become tetchy an
ill-tempered, Hmm, although 

1418
01:17:58,100 --> 01:18:01,200
Diana maintained that once she 
clearly overheard, Charles on 

1419
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:05,000
his telephone, in the bathroom 
telling, Camilla, what's mine is

1420
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,600
in the bathroom telling Camilla,
whatever happens. 

1421
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,300
I will always love you, the 
princes, friends protest. 

1422
01:18:10,300 --> 01:18:13,000
That Steven berries account of 
child's behavior is greatly 

1423
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,200
exaggerated, they point out too,
that the form of ballet is 

1424
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:20,500
conveniently dead so that his 
testimony cannot be tested so I 

1425
01:18:20,500 --> 01:18:23,400
don't know. 
It's probably true, it's just 

1426
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,600
probably see. 
I'm not resisted any more. 

1427
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,300
Yeah. 
So Camilla and her husband at 

1428
01:18:28,300 --> 01:18:30,700
this time we're like there's 
still go out and socialize the 

1429
01:18:30,700 --> 01:18:32,700
other but otherwise they went 
their separate ways. 

1430
01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:34,400
They yeah. 
They weren't like living 

1431
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:39,100
together anymore. 
People wonder why not Diana, why

1432
01:18:39,100 --> 01:18:43,000
I like she's beautiful. 
Why isn't he in to her? 

1433
01:18:43,100 --> 01:18:44,600
Okay I have another thing to 
read. 

1434
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:50,000
Answer that question. 
Um obviously stuff like this is 

1435
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,500
so subjective, you know like 
some people are really into 

1436
01:18:52,500 --> 01:18:56,300
somebody in some whole lot of 
people look good on paper but 

1437
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,600
Not a match. 
So, okay, this is also in the 

1438
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,800
point of view Giles brand with, 
okay, so his words, not mine, 

1439
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,000
Charles had another problem too 
Diana was beautiful. 

1440
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,100
Her beauty was a delight for us 
and a gift of picture editors, 

1441
01:19:11,100 --> 01:19:15,200
but a challenge for Charles and 
to an extent for Diana, also the

1442
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,300
eminent Irish Irish 
psychiatrist. 

1443
01:19:17,300 --> 01:19:20,500
Professor Anthony, Claire told 
me, you can be too beautiful. 

1444
01:19:20,500 --> 01:19:23,000
Extremes are difficult for human
beings to cope with great. 

1445
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,300
Physical. 
Beauty does not lead to 

1446
01:19:24,300 --> 01:19:26,200
happiness. 
Maryland, my Maryland. 

1447
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,100
Monroe wasn't very happy. 
Princess Diana wasn't very 

1448
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:33,100
happy, Bubba, Bubba. 
There are exceptions to every 

1449
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:36,100
rule, but as a generalization 
success successful couples tend 

1450
01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:39,100
to be of a comparable age 
educational ability and 

1451
01:19:39,100 --> 01:19:42,200
attractiveness on a scale of 
Beauty, from 1 to 10, a 

1452
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,700
contented couple might expect to
be within a point or two of one 

1453
01:19:45,700 --> 01:19:47,200
another. 
If you look at the photographs 

1454
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,800
you can see that when they were 
young princess Elizabeth was 

1455
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,600
beautiful truly. 
So in principle it was handsome 

1456
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,300
astonishingly so yeah with 
Charles and Diana it was 

1457
01:19:55,300 --> 01:19:57,600
different on a scale of He 
hovered on A5. 

1458
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,900
Well on a good day, at least in 
the eyes of the average 

1459
01:19:59,900 --> 01:20:02,300
Beholder. 
She be between 8 and 10. 

1460
01:20:02,300 --> 01:20:05,400
Oh my God. 
Charles is made painfully aware 

1461
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,200
of this particular element in 
their mismatch. 

1462
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:12,400
For example, on a walk on a tour
together in Australia in 1985 

1463
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,500
they went on a repeated walk 
about and when Charles climbed 

1464
01:20:15,500 --> 01:20:18,200
out of the official car he would
hear the crowds giving off 

1465
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,900
involuntary groan of 
disappointment as if they're on 

1466
01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:25,600
the side if they were on the 
side that he rather than Diana 

1467
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,300
was set to Work he listened to 
the crowds and heard the 

1468
01:20:28,300 --> 01:20:31,200
disappointment. 
Oh no, she's on the wrong side. 

1469
01:20:31,500 --> 01:20:34,200
He lived the newspapers and 
stuff, photographs of Diana and 

1470
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,800
her dazzling smile, and 
contrasted them with the 

1471
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,900
cartoons of himself that never 
believe featured. 

1472
01:20:38,900 --> 01:20:43,000
His protruding ears Diana was 
treated as an iconic Beauty, a 

1473
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,600
dream Prince has come true. 
He was regarded, he felt at best

1474
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,900
as bit of a letdown at worst as 
a figure of fun. 

1475
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,100
He was disconcerted her and 
undermined by the fat uterus 

1476
01:20:53,100 --> 01:20:56,200
remarks and it's insult. 
Rude comments, shouted out. 

1477
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,300
Esther's made plastic masks. 
We have about wounding Lee, 

1478
01:20:59,300 --> 01:21:02,700
unnecessary things written in 
the papers about me excetera 

1479
01:21:02,700 --> 01:21:04,000
with Camilla. 
Of course, none of these 

1480
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,400
problems will apply. 
Camilla is attractive and her 

1481
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,700
grooming, and her wardrobe, 
especially since her engagement 

1482
01:21:09,700 --> 01:21:12,600
had been faultless, but her 
looks don't Dazzle blah, blah 

1483
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:16,900
blah. 
But yeah, I think it would be 

1484
01:21:16,900 --> 01:21:20,200
kind of rough to be with someone
where people are always saying, 

1485
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:25,400
why is she with him with his big
ears? 

1486
01:21:26,300 --> 01:21:28,000
At 5:00. 
I wouldn't say it's a five. 

1487
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,300
I wouldn't say that either. 
Actually, that's quite me. 

1488
01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:35,000
I know normal-looking. 
I would say, I think he was 

1489
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,400
attractive attractive, I'm not, 
I think he's way more attractive

1490
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,300
than the guy in the crown. 
Sorry. 

1491
01:21:40,500 --> 01:21:42,400
I think he's more attractive 
than William. 

1492
01:21:42,500 --> 01:21:47,200
Hmm, well, not young William. 
Now I think he's fun. 

1493
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,800
That's just this guy's opinion. 
Yeah, but I think if their 

1494
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,700
marriage was already Rocky and 
then all I don't know why. 

1495
01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:59,900
Charles was reading the 
newspapers But already Rocky, 

1496
01:21:59,900 --> 01:22:02,400
you're fighting all the time. 
Then everybody's saying like 

1497
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,900
she's so beautiful. 
We don't like you. 

1498
01:22:04,900 --> 01:22:07,100
Like yeah. 
I feel like in a way and it's 

1499
01:22:07,100 --> 01:22:10,200
wrong but he would resent Diana 
for that. 

1500
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,700
I think he did. 
Like I think if he loved her to 

1501
01:22:12,700 --> 01:22:14,700
start, it would be like you're 
right. 

1502
01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:16,400
She is way more. 
Beautiful. 

1503
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,200
I don't know what she's doing 
with me. 

1504
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,500
Yeah, but then if people are 
using that against you all the 

1505
01:22:21,500 --> 01:22:24,800
time to make you feel worse 
about yourself, you would just 

1506
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:26,200
want nothing to do with that 
other person. 

1507
01:22:26,300 --> 01:22:29,300
Person. 
I think he really did start to 

1508
01:22:29,300 --> 01:22:33,700
resent her and he was trying to 
do all these Charities and stuff

1509
01:22:33,700 --> 01:22:37,300
and people just did not care. 
I care more about like her 

1510
01:22:37,300 --> 01:22:39,200
outfits. 
What a weird complex that 

1511
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,900
Charles must have and he's 
literally prints and people do 

1512
01:22:42,900 --> 01:22:47,700
not like him. 
That's like really literally 

1513
01:22:47,700 --> 01:22:50,300
royalty. 
People don't care. 

1514
01:22:50,300 --> 01:22:54,400
That's sign. 
I know, and it's not even like a

1515
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,800
terrible person. 
It's just think he's like a 

1516
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,700
loser. 
Really don't think he's a 

1517
01:22:59,700 --> 01:23:03,800
terrible person. 
But yeah, he was back to the 

1518
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:05,100
store. 
He was having an affair with 

1519
01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:08,100
Camille at this point. 
Yeah, Charles would make stealth

1520
01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:12,300
visits to Camilla. 
He had one of his most devoted 

1521
01:23:12,300 --> 01:23:14,300
retainers someone at work for 
him. 

1522
01:23:14,300 --> 01:23:17,100
Make the 15-minute drive to 
Middle like house, where Camilla

1523
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:19,700
lived and deliver notes packages
and flowers. 

1524
01:23:19,700 --> 01:23:23,600
Pick by Charles from the garden.
Most of the time Charles and 

1525
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,400
Camilla would spend time at the 
home of friends because I was 

1526
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:30,000
like a safe place to be and this
comes up later and the Camilla 

1527
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,400
gate tampon phone call. 
Which we will get to. 

1528
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:39,400
Yeah, so apparently Diana was 
shattered when she heard of 

1529
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:43,200
their friends complicity in. 
Charles's and Camilla's Affair. 

1530
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:46,300
Yeah, I guess a lot of people 
just like, went along with it 

1531
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,100
but sin to have made Diana, a 
tougher person. 

1532
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,000
Yeah, Diana did have her own 
Affairs at this time too. 

1533
01:23:53,300 --> 01:23:55,500
But I think, you know, the 
question is, like who started 

1534
01:23:55,500 --> 01:23:57,900
it? 
I think it probably was Charles.

1535
01:23:57,900 --> 01:23:59,200
Sounds like it was him. 
Yeah. 

1536
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,700
So she was totally and in my 
Okay, to be with other people. 

1537
01:24:04,100 --> 01:24:06,000
I agree. 
What's the other person cheats? 

1538
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,400
Guys you can do whatever you 
want. 

1539
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,300
Yeah, yeah, I feel like we've 
established that, you know this 

1540
01:24:10,300 --> 01:24:13,800
pod guy out. 
I mean if they're not stopping 

1541
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:15,100
it you might as well have some 
fun. 

1542
01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:17,700
Yeah. 
The Press started paying 

1543
01:24:17,700 --> 01:24:20,600
attention to how much time 
Charles and Diana spent apart 

1544
01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:25,000
mmm being like oh he's here 
shears there. 

1545
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,600
They haven't been seen together 
in months or something. 

1546
01:24:27,900 --> 01:24:31,800
They went to a wet a wedding and
apparently Diana was on the 

1547
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,700
Dance Floor. 
Floor dancing with somebody else

1548
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,600
and Charles and Camilla just 
like slipped out of the party 

1549
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,000
and left. 
Oh my God. 

1550
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,000
And seems like no one really was
trying to care. 

1551
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,900
Like they weren't keeping up 
appearances anymore as well. 

1552
01:24:43,900 --> 01:24:46,500
And he was quoted to a friend 
saying I just want to be with 

1553
01:24:46,500 --> 01:24:50,000
her meaning Camila all the time.
And another friend said he 

1554
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,300
fantasizes about escaping to 
Italy with Camilla and living in

1555
01:24:53,300 --> 01:24:59,600
Exile but it was just a dream. 
Hmm, But by Autumn, 1988 Affair 

1556
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,100
was starting to leak beyond 
their closest Circle. 

1557
01:25:03,100 --> 01:25:06,600
Like I think the Press was 
catching her Camilla on pictures

1558
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,500
and they didn't know who she 
was, but they were saying, like,

1559
01:25:10,100 --> 01:25:12,400
his female Confidant or 
whatever. 

1560
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,500
Yeah. 
As those tabloids do they come 

1561
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:19,300
up with, like, little nicknames 
for people. 

1562
01:25:19,300 --> 01:25:22,300
Exactly his gal, pal, yeah. 
He's got, yeah, just Charles and

1563
01:25:22,300 --> 01:25:25,100
his gal pal, but he was still 
lonely. 

1564
01:25:25,100 --> 01:25:28,800
I guess, like he didn't see 
Camilla all the time and she 

1565
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,200
made him happy with the 
happiness was dampened by their 

1566
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,900
marital. 
Options. 

1567
01:25:33,700 --> 01:25:36,900
And he felt that Diana continue 
to drain him emotionally and 

1568
01:25:36,900 --> 01:25:42,900
upstage him publicly. 
But apparently 1989, Diane 

1569
01:25:42,900 --> 01:25:44,600
approach. 
Camilla at a birthday party and 

1570
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,700
ask her to leave, whose 
birthday, oh, leave Charles 

1571
01:25:47,700 --> 01:25:50,100
alone. 
I'm not sure. 

1572
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,000
Just like a friend or something.
Charles always kept Camilla out 

1573
01:25:54,000 --> 01:26:00,900
of Harry and Williams site. 
And then in 1989, this is when a

1574
01:26:00,900 --> 01:26:05,500
sleepy, Relation between Charles
and Camilla was recorded that 

1575
01:26:05,500 --> 01:26:07,500
occurred around midnight on 
Sunday. 

1576
01:26:07,500 --> 01:26:12,800
December 17th 1989, the tape 
became public four years later 

1577
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:18,100
for ever known is Camilla gate, 
but I'm going to return to it 

1578
01:26:18,100 --> 01:26:20,900
when it comes out that makes 
sense. 

1579
01:26:20,900 --> 01:26:24,600
I'm gonna get too into it yet 
but it's crazy. 

1580
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,100
It seems like people still don't
know how it was taped or who 

1581
01:26:28,100 --> 01:26:30,800
recorded it. 
Wait, that is very weird because

1582
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,700
it's a phone call it is A phone 
call. 

1583
01:26:32,700 --> 01:26:34,600
I know there's like this whole 
page in here. 

1584
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:38,100
It's like a footnote but takes 
up the entire page and really 

1585
01:26:38,100 --> 01:26:41,900
small writing about how there's 
all this stuff about like was it

1586
01:26:41,900 --> 01:26:43,800
the government or they spying on
the royal family? 

1587
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,200
And they said, no, it wasn't us.
And they were saying it was a 

1588
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:51,100
private individual that somehow 
tapped their phones and like, 

1589
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:54,900
could it have been either of 
them, Camilla or you don't lie, 

1590
01:26:54,900 --> 01:26:56,000
not know. 
Okay. 

1591
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,700
It like ruins don't lie. 
I have to look at the yeah. 

1592
01:26:58,700 --> 01:27:01,900
Two people in question. 
No, I really don't think so. 

1593
01:27:01,900 --> 01:27:03,200
Also. 
Starts like, in the middle. 

1594
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,500
It's like weird. 
I don't think someone was trying

1595
01:27:05,500 --> 01:27:07,600
to spy on them, to take down the
royal family. 

1596
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,600
Wow. 
I know, all they got some good 

1597
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,300
juice. 
They're really did, and I feel 

1598
01:27:13,300 --> 01:27:19,000
kind of bad sharing it because I
know, Charles hated how invasive

1599
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,000
the Press was and stuff, but I'm
going to read the transcript, I 

1600
01:27:22,008 --> 01:27:25,800
mean, it's all good. 
Yes, don't hate us. 

1601
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:30,100
Don't know how those again. 
Don't can't do that anymore with

1602
01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:36,600
your head. 
Kelly's actually a citizen of 

1603
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,200
Ireland. 
Wait, no. 

1604
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,400
You don't have control over. 
Yeah, that's true. 

1605
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,800
Northern Ireland to do. 
We're gonna give back to the 

1606
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:47,100
call when it comes out. 
But on June 28 1990 Charles is 

1607
01:27:47,100 --> 01:27:49,000
playing Polo. 
In there was an accident, I 

1608
01:27:49,008 --> 01:27:51,600
guess he fell off the horse and 
then another horse fell on top 

1609
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,000
of him and kicked him and he 
fractured his upper arm. 

1610
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,800
Oh, yeah. 
Camila race to the hospital to 

1611
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:00,700
his bedside on a good look. 
But Diana. 

1612
01:28:00,700 --> 01:28:05,700
Didn't come till the next day. 
I know and apparently Dinah said

1613
01:28:05,700 --> 01:28:07,700
something like, do you think you
might have learned your lesson 

1614
01:28:07,700 --> 01:28:10,300
about Polo now? 
Like I don't know, she didn't 

1615
01:28:10,300 --> 01:28:12,000
feel that bad for him. 
Hmm. 

1616
01:28:12,100 --> 01:28:15,000
Camilla visited him while he 
healed and she would come with 

1617
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,800
other people and like, even her 
husband for covers really not 

1618
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,000
hiding it. 
Well, she brought other people 

1619
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:22,300
do it. 
She's bald. 

1620
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:26,100
And she would smoke on ashtrays 
that Charles provided for her, 

1621
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,200
which was sweet because Charles 
actually hated smoking and had 

1622
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:33,400
like a ban on it in the palace. 
But He let her smoke. 

1623
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,400
That's real. 
Yeah. 

1624
01:28:36,300 --> 01:28:39,200
And she smoked like a back and 
say, wow, that's like she's got 

1625
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:53,900
that hot boys understandable and
she taped a series of interviews

1626
01:28:53,900 --> 01:28:57,200
where she talked about it. 
They hadn't come out yet though.

1627
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,600
I don't think and according to 
friends, Charles are acting 

1628
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:04,200
strangely like If we are 
probably the dinner table and he

1629
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,900
would change the conversation 
whenever Diana was mentioned, 

1630
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,100
the Duchess of Devonshire just a
random quote saying that. 

1631
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:13,600
Charles said he had no friends 
among his family apart from 

1632
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,600
Queen Mother his grandmother. 
Hmm. 

1633
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,600
I'm sure she's getting up there 
in age. 

1634
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:24,000
She was this family lives so 
long crazy. 

1635
01:29:24,300 --> 01:29:26,400
Oh my gosh I just like Google 
pie. 

1636
01:29:26,500 --> 01:29:30,100
What does the queen eat? 
Because it's crazy. 

1637
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,400
Their longevity is quite nice. 
I see, I mean even both of his 

1638
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:37,900
parents who are not too closely 
related, they are related to 

1639
01:29:37,900 --> 01:29:41,900
each other though but they both 
lived very long as Dad. 

1640
01:29:41,900 --> 01:29:46,500
I don't want it. 
Like 199 is what like 96 and 

1641
01:29:46,500 --> 01:29:49,300
she's going on strong. 
She'd covid she bounced back 

1642
01:29:49,300 --> 01:29:55,500
right after that incredibly I 
know yeah it's not 1992 prince. 

1643
01:29:55,500 --> 01:29:59,800
Andrew and Sarah Ferguson. 
Fergie divorced in the same 

1644
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,100
year, Princess Anne and her 
husband mark UPS divorced. 

1645
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:04,900
Oh my God. 
Something's in the air. 

1646
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,800
Hmm. 
And it was a very upsetting year

1647
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:12,100
for the queen and turns out both
and and Market been unfaithful 

1648
01:30:12,100 --> 01:30:14,200
and princess. 
And apparently had been cheating

1649
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:20,900
with Andrew Parker, Bowles. 
Wow, small, where I know all 

1650
01:30:20,900 --> 01:30:23,700
their old ones. 
Just swapping Partners. 

1651
01:30:23,700 --> 01:30:26,800
I guess, Andrews really like 
Andrew Parker Bowles. 

1652
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:31,000
I know doesn't give a fuck. 
He just, he doesn't. 

1653
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,300
Apparently he There was even a 
part in one of the books was 

1654
01:30:34,300 --> 01:30:36,500
like he didn't think much about 
the prince. 

1655
01:30:36,500 --> 01:30:40,400
He was kind of just like honored
to be hanging around with that 

1656
01:30:40,700 --> 01:30:43,800
honestly. 
I think he was kind of shitty 

1657
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,300
guy but yeah he's chill. 
At the same time. 

1658
01:30:46,500 --> 01:30:49,500
The queen is very very upset. 
Yeah about this. 

1659
01:30:49,500 --> 01:30:52,600
Then the same year the Sunday 
Times published the first 

1660
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:59,000
installment of Diana her true 
story where she Really Prince 

1661
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,400
Charles and I'm terrible light. 
And the whole royal family. 

1662
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:03,400
Is that the interviewer she's 
like, well, there was three of 

1663
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,600
us I think so. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1664
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:12,800
And there were copies delivered 
to the palace and I guess when 

1665
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,800
Diane has spotted the copy, she 
rejected you retreated to her 

1666
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,800
room and Charles was reading it 
while he was eating breakfast 

1667
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:22,100
and was apparently silent. 
And there was an interior 

1668
01:31:22,100 --> 01:31:24,900
designer. 
There Robert chyme, we said it 

1669
01:31:24,900 --> 01:31:27,900
was horrific, oh my God within 
minutes. 

1670
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,500
Through the designer left, 
apparently, Diana was running 

1671
01:31:30,500 --> 01:31:33,500
downstairs out, the car crying, 
and then Charles went out to the

1672
01:31:33,500 --> 01:31:38,400
Garden to pace around. 
Okay, I know that's like not fun

1673
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:42,200
and like really bad but like oh 
drama I don't know. 

1674
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,900
It was it was a lot of drama you
know. 

1675
01:31:44,900 --> 01:31:51,000
Because yeah be heated about um 
apparently was a devastating, an

1676
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,700
unprecedented blow to the entire
Royal Family. 

1677
01:31:53,700 --> 01:31:57,800
Yes I mean come on. 
They'll like think of like how 

1678
01:31:58,100 --> 01:32:02,000
The high standards that like 
Elizabeth needed to have then 

1679
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,500
like all of her kids are just 
getting diviners. 

1680
01:32:04,500 --> 01:32:09,000
They're cheating very upsetting.
Yeah, I mean I would be pissed. 

1681
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:14,200
Rose Queen to me, she never says
anything about how she feels. 

1682
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,200
Mmm, she keeps everything to 
herself. 

1683
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:17,900
Yeah. 
She just suffers in silence. 

1684
01:32:17,900 --> 01:32:20,000
You know, that's and she thinks 
that's the way it should be. 

1685
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:21,300
And that's how she was forced to
be. 

1686
01:32:21,300 --> 01:32:23,200
Yeah. 
You just need to be stable, you 

1687
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:27,400
know, and then for this 
generation to be like just like 

1688
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,700
all over the Yeah, press doing 
worse now. 

1689
01:32:30,700 --> 01:32:33,600
I mean, maybe it's the same but 
like making Mark old stuff but 

1690
01:32:34,100 --> 01:32:39,500
yeah, I the queen was not happy.
And I first Diana lied about 

1691
01:32:39,500 --> 01:32:40,900
rotisserie in the book, she 
tried to say. 

1692
01:32:40,900 --> 01:32:43,600
It wasn't true, but it was and 
the Queen and Prince Philip 

1693
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,700
summon, Charles, and Diana. 
And looks at them down, tried to

1694
01:32:46,700 --> 01:32:48,600
stay basically, like, can you 
work this out? 

1695
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,100
Like, stop fighting whatever, 
said, no. 

1696
01:32:51,700 --> 01:32:53,700
Um, I don't know. 
They said, but Philip was 

1697
01:32:53,700 --> 01:32:56,400
apparently, really angry? 
And like, raging and Charles was

1698
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,500
mute. 
And And like their kids in 

1699
01:32:59,500 --> 01:33:03,100
trouble. 
I know, reporters caught up to 

1700
01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:06,300
Camilla when she was out of polo
match with her husband and they 

1701
01:33:06,300 --> 01:33:10,000
asked her about it and she said,
I'm certainly not going to bury 

1702
01:33:10,300 --> 01:33:13,300
myself away because of what the 
papers say, she said, absolutely

1703
01:33:13,300 --> 01:33:14,400
not. 
Why should I? 

1704
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:19,400
But she actually was like really
rattled, mmm. 

1705
01:33:19,500 --> 01:33:23,000
He fled to whale to save the 
friend and then she went to 

1706
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:27,200
Venice with her sister and the 
press found her, and they said 

1707
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:32,700
she looks tired. 
Pale Charles try to distract 

1708
01:33:32,700 --> 01:33:35,400
himself by playing Polo and 
launching his Institute of 

1709
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:39,400
architecture around this time. 
Charles was advocating for a 

1710
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:43,100
leaner image for the monarchy 
reducing the number of royal 

1711
01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:47,100
families eligible for the Civil 
list Alliance in a memo, he 

1712
01:33:47,100 --> 01:33:49,000
wrote, he wondered. 
If Britain's believe that there 

1713
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,700
are too many members with money 
spent on them. 

1714
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,400
Hmm, just kind of respectable. 
I mean, they are. 

1715
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:58,800
I mean, the reason why the queen
is so Stressed about this kind 

1716
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:00,500
of stuff is. 
A lot of people are trying to 

1717
01:34:00,500 --> 01:34:02,700
just get rid of the monarchy. 
Like that makes sense. 

1718
01:34:02,700 --> 01:34:06,000
They need to seem like they're 
good people, at least. 

1719
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,600
Yeah. 
And they're causing drama that. 

1720
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,000
Yeah. 
It was people a reason to say 

1721
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,900
like yeah, why do, why are we 
even supporting these people? 

1722
01:34:13,900 --> 01:34:16,600
You know, I do think for 
Charles, it's very easy for you 

1723
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,800
to be like there's too many 
Royal members were making money 

1724
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,100
when you're like the heir to the
throne. 

1725
01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:25,900
Yeah you know like I know kind 
of fuck you if I'm your cousin 

1726
01:34:25,900 --> 01:34:29,000
I'm gonna be pretty mad at you. 
No. 

1727
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,100
But I didn't think he has a 
point. 

1728
01:34:31,100 --> 01:34:34,300
Yeah, I don't know how many 
people they did have on the 

1729
01:34:34,300 --> 01:34:38,400
Civil list but I don't know. 
It's not fair, it's not fair, 

1730
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:39,800
the taxpayers money. 
Yeah. 

1731
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:44,900
Going to people who were just 
born into this and the main 

1732
01:34:44,900 --> 01:34:48,200
people do do a lot. 
Like, basically every day, they 

1733
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:52,700
are opening things I museums or 
they're helping Charities are 

1734
01:34:52,708 --> 01:34:54,200
there. 
Yeah, they do do a lot, they're 

1735
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,300
doing all these things, but I 
think some of the people in the 

1736
01:34:57,300 --> 01:34:59,000
outskirts me. 
We aren't doing as much. 

1737
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:02,100
Yeah, I'm wrong but now I really
don't think there are. 

1738
01:35:02,500 --> 01:35:04,100
I'm sure he did piss people off 
though. 

1739
01:35:04,100 --> 01:35:08,600
The he said that the Windsor 
Castle actually had a fire and 

1740
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:11,000
to pay for the repairs, they 
open some of it up for the 

1741
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:15,700
public for tours rather than use
public money, which was like 

1742
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:19,900
very new at the time and I went 
to Windsor Castle had a good 

1743
01:35:19,900 --> 01:35:23,500
time so thank you guys for doing
that. 

1744
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,000
But yeah, it's interesting at 
this like time in history like 

1745
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:32,100
the early It seems like they're 
starting to feel the pressure to

1746
01:35:32,100 --> 01:35:35,600
spend less money. 
You know, they have to be a 

1747
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:38,600
little thriftier about things 
like they can't just get money 

1748
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:39,700
for everything anymore. 
Yeah. 

1749
01:35:39,700 --> 01:35:42,700
So and I do have all these 
businesses that they're doing 

1750
01:35:42,700 --> 01:35:44,600
and stuff. 
So I don't know. 

1751
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:47,500
Like the queen opens, our gift 
shop and which I also bought 

1752
01:35:47,500 --> 01:35:55,000
something there, you're welcome.
Camilla was asked about Charles 

1753
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:58,300
and Diana by reporter. 
And she said, if Something has 

1754
01:35:58,300 --> 01:36:00,300
gone wrong. 
I'm very sorry for them, but I 

1755
01:36:00,300 --> 01:36:02,500
know nothing more than the 
average person on the street. 

1756
01:36:02,500 --> 01:36:04,400
I only know what? 
I see on television. 

1757
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,400
Hmm, obviously not true. 
I don't think so. 

1758
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,400
I guess she's just trying to 
protect yourself but obviously, 

1759
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:11,400
it's not true. 
Yeah. 

1760
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,100
She sounds media trainer. 
Yeah. 

1761
01:36:14,100 --> 01:36:17,000
She does. 
There's really not many 

1762
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,200
interviews at all with Camilla. 
Like you can't find much about 

1763
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:25,000
her, it's crazy. 
So then after this whole, you 

1764
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:29,300
know, debacle with the Diane 
interview thing Jenny 17th 1993.

1765
01:36:29,500 --> 01:36:33,200
The Camilla gate tape came out, 
okay, I'm excited to hear the 

1766
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:37,400
entire transcript was printed in
the Sunday Mirror. 

1767
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:39,600
It's spooky. 
No one knows who exactly 

1768
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,200
recorded it. 
So, I remember a couple of years

1769
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:45,700
ago. 
I listened to it somehow. 

1770
01:36:45,700 --> 01:36:47,000
I found it on YouTube or 
something. 

1771
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:48,400
You did too, right? 
Yeah. 

1772
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:51,500
But I could not find it. 
So it's time around. 

1773
01:36:51,500 --> 01:36:54,200
I was looking everywhere. 
Wow, should have downloaded it. 

1774
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,600
I don't know if like because of 
the Crown's. 

1775
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:57,700
Somehow, the royal family was 
like. 

1776
01:36:57,900 --> 01:37:01,600
Like, we gotta get that 
internationally, easy to find on

1777
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:04,100
you too. 
That's so searching like crazy. 

1778
01:37:04,100 --> 01:37:09,900
I did find a really small 
snippet, I guess I'll play it 

1779
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:13,800
just so you can hear like their 
voices but and if I do find it 

1780
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:19,100
like maybe I'll put it in but I 
couldn't find it okay Sunday 

1781
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:33,900
night without you 
All the way all the time. 

1782
01:37:34,700 --> 01:37:37,800
All right. 
I mean wouldn't you do anything 

1783
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:41,100
that have this from Rob and 
Kristen or something? 

1784
01:37:41,300 --> 01:37:46,100
My God, I would die. 
Oh yeah, I am, I don't want 

1785
01:37:46,100 --> 01:37:49,300
something so tough there. 
I know this turbine. 

1786
01:37:49,900 --> 01:37:54,700
Okay. 
So this is at midnight and it 

1787
01:37:54,708 --> 01:37:56,500
seems like Charles is really 
sleepy. 

1788
01:37:56,500 --> 01:38:00,700
So the author of the book Giles 
is guessing that he's lying in 

1789
01:38:00,700 --> 01:38:05,600
bed while Camilo still up. 
Yeah, that makes sense. 

1790
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,600
That makes sense. 
Okay, so and you know, you're in

1791
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:13,200
a Bish, Ins at that as well. 
Or quite low, okay. 

1792
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:17,600
Charles says, how am I going to 
like should I say? 

1793
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:21,500
Charles a goose that are just go
back and can't do it man. 

1794
01:38:21,700 --> 01:38:28,200
Okay, I'll try. 
I'm, his voice is like, I can't 

1795
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:30,700
do that, so that I don't have 
the secret as well, you know, 

1796
01:38:30,700 --> 01:38:34,400
knock it off. 
So Charles says he thought he 

1797
01:38:34,407 --> 01:38:37,800
might have gone a bit far, come 
on, says, oh well. 

1798
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,700
Anyway, you know that's the sort
of thing one has to be aware of 

1799
01:38:41,700 --> 01:38:44,500
and sort of feel one's way along
with if you know what I mean. 

1800
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:47,700
Camilla says, hmm. 
You're awfully good at feeling 

1801
01:38:47,700 --> 01:38:49,400
your way. 
Long Charles. 

1802
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,500
Oh stop. 
I want to feel my way. 

1803
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:55,900
A along, you all over you, an 
up-and-down, you, and in and 

1804
01:38:55,900 --> 01:39:01,000
out, come on. 
Oh, Charles particularly in and 

1805
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,800
out, oh my God, Camilla. 
Oh, that's just what I need at 

1806
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:09,600
the moment. 
Is it Camilla inode revive me? 

1807
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,300
I can't bear Sunday night 
without you. 

1808
01:39:11,300 --> 01:39:13,100
This is the part we just heard 
Charles. 

1809
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:15,600
Oh God. 
It's like that program. 

1810
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,700
Start of the week. 
I can't start the week without 

1811
01:39:17,700 --> 01:39:20,300
you Charles. 
I fill up your tank. 

1812
01:39:20,700 --> 01:39:23,000
Oh my God. 
Yes, you do. 

1813
01:39:23,700 --> 01:39:25,900
Then you can coat then. 
I'm all right. 

1814
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:28,100
What about me? 
The trouble is I need you 

1815
01:39:28,100 --> 01:39:30,000
several times a week all the 
time. 

1816
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:31,900
Camilla. 
Mmm. 

1817
01:39:31,900 --> 01:39:34,400
So do II need. 
You all the week all the time? 

1818
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:39,300
Charles, oh God, I'll just live 
inside your trousers or 

1819
01:39:39,300 --> 01:39:40,700
something. 
It would be much easier. 

1820
01:39:40,700 --> 01:39:43,600
Oh my God. 
Camilla, what are you going to 

1821
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,100
turn into a pair of knickers for
their laughing? 

1822
01:39:46,700 --> 01:39:50,400
Oh, you're going to come back as
a pair of knickers Charles or 

1823
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:54,900
God forbid at It's just my look,
you laughs coming up. 

1824
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:58,600
You are a complete idiot. 
Oh, what a wonderful idea. 

1825
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,100
My luck to be tucked down the 
lavatory and going on and on 

1826
01:40:02,100 --> 01:40:04,600
forever, swirling around on top,
never going down. 

1827
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:10,500
Oh my god. 
Oh darling, until the next one 

1828
01:40:10,500 --> 01:40:13,600
comes through or perhaps you 
could just come back. 

1829
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:16,900
It's a box what? 
Sort of box a box of Tampax you 

1830
01:40:16,900 --> 01:40:19,000
could just keep going? 
That's true. 

1831
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:21,500
Repeating yourself. 
Oh Don. 

1832
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:25,000
I just want you now, you do. 
Mmm. 

1833
01:40:25,300 --> 01:40:29,700
So do I threw up desperately 
desperately desperately? 

1834
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:31,900
Oh, I thought of you so much. 
It gonna be. 

1835
01:40:32,300 --> 01:40:35,100
Did you simply mean? 
We couldn't be there together 

1836
01:40:35,700 --> 01:40:38,200
desperate? 
If you could be here, I longed 

1837
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,500
to ask Nancy. 
Sometimes why don't you? 

1838
01:40:40,900 --> 01:40:43,800
I daren't because I think she's 
in love with you. 

1839
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:49,200
Mmm she'd do anything, you asked
Charles she'd tell all sorts of 

1840
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:52,100
people Camilla. 
No she wouldn't because Be much 

1841
01:40:52,100 --> 01:40:53,600
too frightened of what you might
say to her. 

1842
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,000
I think you've got, I'm afraid, 
it's a terrible thing to say, 

1843
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,700
but I think, you know, the sort 
of people feel very strongly 

1844
01:40:58,700 --> 01:41:00,300
about you. 
You've got such a great hold 

1845
01:41:00,300 --> 01:41:04,900
over her really enjoy, I think, 
as usual, your understand under 

1846
01:41:04,900 --> 01:41:07,900
estimating yourself, but she 
might be terribly jealous or 

1847
01:41:07,900 --> 01:41:11,000
something, Camilla. 
Oh huh. 

1848
01:41:12,700 --> 01:41:15,500
Now that is a point. 
I wonder she might be I suppose 

1849
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,100
Turtles. 
You never know. 

1850
01:41:17,100 --> 01:41:20,100
Do you Camilla know the little 
green-eyed monster might be 

1851
01:41:20,100 --> 01:41:22,600
lurking inside her? 
No, but I mean, the thing is, 

1852
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,800
you're so good when people are 
so flattered to be taken into 

1853
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:26,800
your confidence. 
But I don't know they'd betray. 

1854
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:32,200
You, you know, real friends. 
Really, I don't gone to sleep. 

1855
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,200
No, I'm here. 
Darling. 

1856
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:35,600
Listen. 
I talked to David tonight, 

1857
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:39,200
again, it might not be any good.
Oh no, I'll tell you why. 

1858
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,400
He's got these children. 
One of those Crawley girls and 

1859
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:44,500
their Nanny staying, he's going.
I'm going to bring him again 

1860
01:41:44,500 --> 01:41:46,000
tomorrow. 
He's going to try to put them 

1861
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,900
off till Friday, but I thought 
as an alternative, perhaps I 

1862
01:41:48,900 --> 01:41:51,200
might bring up Charlie. 
Wait, who are these people? 

1863
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:54,800
They're trying So I think this 
is them trying to find a place 

1864
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:58,600
to go. 
Oh to do it I guess I don't know

1865
01:41:58,900 --> 01:42:02,100
because remember they apparently
go to their friends houses or 

1866
01:42:02,100 --> 01:42:06,600
yeah, it's so she's saying it's 
not going to work out with him 

1867
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:08,800
because he's got these children 
that are gonna be there. 

1868
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:14,500
Um, and Carla says, oh my God, I
don't, I don't know if you just 

1869
01:42:14,500 --> 01:42:17,800
means, then we can spend the 
night there and hang out or just

1870
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:21,500
literally means have sex because
she says and then we could and 

1871
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,700
And see if we could do it there.
And I was back on Thursday. 

1872
01:42:25,500 --> 01:42:28,200
Charles, it's quite a lot 
further away, Camilla. 

1873
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,500
Oh, is it? 
Charles won't I think coming 

1874
01:42:30,500 --> 01:42:33,900
from Newmarket coming from 
Newmarket to me, at that time of

1875
01:42:33,900 --> 01:42:36,200
night, you're probably do it in 
two and three quarters takes me.

1876
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,400
Three, Charles to what to him, 
but would know. 

1877
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:42,600
If more to go to boa to go 
forward with the same as me 

1878
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:45,300
really wow. 
Planning ahead Logistics of it 

1879
01:42:45,300 --> 01:42:49,000
is not outside too. 
I mean to say you'd suggest 

1880
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,900
going to vote today. 
No, not at all which Charlie And

1881
01:42:52,300 --> 01:42:54,100
what Charlie did you think I was
talking about? 

1882
01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:55,900
I had no, because I thought you 
meant. 

1883
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,000
I've got lots. 
Somebody else. 

1884
01:42:58,100 --> 01:43:00,800
I've got lots of friends called 
Charlie the other one patties. 

1885
01:43:00,900 --> 01:43:03,500
Oh there. 
Oh, that's further away. 

1886
01:43:03,500 --> 01:43:05,200
They're not, they've gone. 
I don't know. 

1887
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:06,500
It's just, you know, just a 
thought. 

1888
01:43:06,500 --> 01:43:07,900
If I had felt through the other 
place. 

1889
01:43:08,300 --> 01:43:09,800
Oh, right. 
Yeah, they go on. 

1890
01:43:10,100 --> 01:43:11,900
What do you do? 
Go on the M25. 

1891
01:43:11,900 --> 01:43:16,900
This is some, they like I'd want
a religious experience. 

1892
01:43:16,900 --> 01:43:20,500
That's kind of cool to read. 
Do they get back into, like, the

1893
01:43:20,500 --> 01:43:21,700
sexting of it? 
Ooh. 

1894
01:43:22,300 --> 01:43:26,300
Okay. 
So talking about some species 

1895
01:43:26,300 --> 01:43:30,100
working on and she says, can I 
have a copy of the one you've 

1896
01:43:30,100 --> 01:43:32,100
just done? 
Yes, Camilla. 

1897
01:43:32,500 --> 01:43:36,600
Can I, um, I'd like it, okay, 
I'll organize it darling. 

1898
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,200
But I, oh God. 
What am I going to speak to you?

1899
01:43:39,700 --> 01:43:42,100
I can't bear it. 
Um, Wednesday night. 

1900
01:43:42,100 --> 01:43:44,900
Oh, certainly runs night. 
I'll be all alone, Wednesday. 

1901
01:43:44,900 --> 01:43:48,400
You know the evening or Tuesday.
Well, you're rushing around 

1902
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,200
doing things. 
I'll be, you know, alone until 

1903
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:51,900
it reappears in early Wednesday.
Winning. 

1904
01:43:51,900 --> 01:43:54,100
I'll be, I mean he'll be leaving
8:30. 

1905
01:43:54,500 --> 01:43:56,400
Think that means Andrew Parker 
Bowles. 

1906
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,000
He won't be there. 
He won't be here. 

1907
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,900
Thursday, pray God. 
Um, that ambulance strike. 

1908
01:44:00,900 --> 01:44:03,200
It's a terrible thing to say 
this I suppose it won't have 

1909
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:06,600
come to an end by Thursday. 
I know there's some strike going

1910
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:08,100
on. 
It's so funny they're going on 

1911
01:44:08,100 --> 01:44:10,200
trying to figure out how they're
going to see each other and when

1912
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:13,100
they're going to talk again it 
would be so wonderful have just 

1913
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:16,900
one night to set on our way. 
Wouldn't it Charles wouldn't it 

1914
01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:19,600
to wish you a happy Christmas? 
Camilla happy. 

1915
01:44:19,900 --> 01:44:21,400
Oh, don't let's think about 
Christmas. 

1916
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:24,200
I I can't bear it going to sleep
because I think there's a long 

1917
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:25,800
pause. 
I think you'd better. 

1918
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,200
Don't you darling? 
Yes, darling. 

1919
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:30,700
I think you've exhausted 
Yourself by all that hard work. 

1920
01:44:30,700 --> 01:44:32,100
You must go to sleep now. 
Darling. 

1921
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,000
Yes. 
Darling Camila says, will you 

1922
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:36,900
bring me when you wake up? 
Yes, it will. 

1923
01:44:37,500 --> 01:44:39,600
Before have those Grandpa Jim 
children around. 

1924
01:44:39,700 --> 01:44:40,900
It's Tom's birthday. 
Tomorrow. 

1925
01:44:41,300 --> 01:44:43,400
You all right. 
I'm all right. 

1926
01:44:43,500 --> 01:44:46,200
Come on says can I talk to you? 
I hope before those rampaging 

1927
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,200
children. 
What time do they come in? 

1928
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:52,000
Usually Tom wakes up at never 
wakes up at all, but Birthday 

1929
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:53,400
tomorrow. 
So they're like planning one 

1930
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:56,500
around Tokyo phone next. 
Melissa is, yeah, if you can 

1931
01:44:56,500 --> 01:44:58,900
love you darling night, darling.
I love you. 

1932
01:44:59,300 --> 01:45:01,500
I love you too. 
I don't want to say goodbye that

1933
01:45:01,500 --> 01:45:04,300
was Charles. 
Well done for doing that. 

1934
01:45:04,300 --> 01:45:05,900
You're clever old thing and off 
we go. 

1935
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:07,900
Good brain, lurking in there, 
isn't it? 

1936
01:45:07,900 --> 01:45:09,500
Oh darling. 
I think you ought to give the 

1937
01:45:09,500 --> 01:45:12,000
brain to rest now night night 
night, darling. 

1938
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:13,500
God bless. 
I do love you. 

1939
01:45:13,500 --> 01:45:15,200
And I'm so proud of you. 
That's Camilla. 

1940
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:18,000
Charles, oh, I'm so proud of you
don't be silly. 

1941
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,600
I've never achieved anything. 
Charles says, you have, come on.

1942
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:22,300
No, you haven't. 
Charles. 

1943
01:45:22,300 --> 01:45:23,800
My greatest achievement is to 
love me. 

1944
01:45:24,100 --> 01:45:26,300
Oh my God. 
Dialing easier than falling off 

1945
01:45:26,300 --> 01:45:28,200
chair. 
Charles, you suffer all those 

1946
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:31,100
indignities and tortures and 
calamities, Camilla. 

1947
01:45:31,100 --> 01:45:33,600
Oh darling, don't be silly. 
I'd suffer anything for you. 

1948
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,600
That's the vesa strength of Love
night night night. 

1949
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:38,800
Darling sounds as though you're 
dragging an enormous piece of 

1950
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,500
string behind with hundreds of 
10 pots and cans attached to. 

1951
01:45:41,500 --> 01:45:43,700
It must be a telephone night 
night. 

1952
01:45:43,700 --> 01:45:47,400
Before the battery goes, blows a
kiss night, keeps going 

1953
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,700
actually. 
Oh my God, there's a whole page 

1954
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:52,700
of love. 
Dude, I don't want to say 

1955
01:45:52,700 --> 01:45:55,300
goodbye. 
Neither do I, but I must get 

1956
01:45:55,300 --> 01:45:57,900
some sleep. 
Bye-bye, darling, I love you. 

1957
01:45:58,100 --> 01:45:59,400
Bye. 
Hopefully, talk to you in the 

1958
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:01,100
morning, please. 
Bye. 

1959
01:46:01,100 --> 01:46:04,200
I love you. 
Night night night. 

1960
01:46:04,300 --> 01:46:07,000
Love you forever night. 
Goodbye. 

1961
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,700
My darling night night, night 
night. 

1962
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:11,400
Oh my God. 
Bye-bye. 

1963
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:19,100
Going by going gone night, press
the button, going to press the 

1964
01:46:19,100 --> 01:46:21,100
tit. 
All right, darling. 

1965
01:46:21,100 --> 01:46:25,800
I wish you Pressing mine God. 
I wish it was harder and harder.

1966
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:30,900
Oh my god. 
Oh, darling, night-night, I love

1967
01:46:30,900 --> 01:46:32,200
you. 
Love you. 

1968
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:35,800
Press the tip. 
Does Camilla adore you night 

1969
01:46:36,100 --> 01:46:39,100
night night club wasn't kiss 
night. 

1970
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,100
Good night, my darling. 
I love you. 

1971
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:46,800
Oh my God, they're in love. 
I mean, that's love whatever 

1972
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:50,500
love is that's love. 
But I mean, real easy. 

1973
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:55,900
Hot, I'll be honest. 
I mean be caring this day when 

1974
01:46:55,900 --> 01:46:57,600
you feel something that's 
strongly. 

1975
01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,200
I know, they can't even say 
goodbye. 

1976
01:46:59,300 --> 01:47:01,000
How are you? 
Yeah, I mean, how's it going to 

1977
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:04,300
walk away from them? 
I mean, that sounds like it's 

1978
01:47:04,300 --> 01:47:07,800
like a drug almost. 
I'm sorry, but it's so cute. 

1979
01:47:08,100 --> 01:47:17,300
There's like teenagers. 
It's sad but like never seen a 

1980
01:47:17,308 --> 01:47:21,100
Loveless marriage. 
Feels that way for Camilla, I 

1981
01:47:21,100 --> 01:47:26,400
can't believe that also the 
comment about like your be your 

1982
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,100
greatest achievement is loving 
me. 

1983
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:31,100
Sounds arrogant. 
It kind of is, but I feel like 

1984
01:47:31,100 --> 01:47:35,300
he's trying to put himself down 
by that being like, I'm so 

1985
01:47:35,300 --> 01:47:39,100
unlovable achievement is. 
Yeah, he doesn't have a way with

1986
01:47:39,100 --> 01:47:44,000
words, but honestly, that's 
handbags comments, Carl. 

1987
01:47:45,300 --> 01:47:47,500
He's a little bit of a 
sex-starved. 

1988
01:47:47,500 --> 01:47:50,100
Yeah. 
He is give me really good and 

1989
01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:53,800
it's like Modern Age. 
Give me a box. 

1990
01:47:53,900 --> 01:47:57,000
Yeah, just keep going. 
Oh my God. 

1991
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:02,300
He probably like Getting a good 
head. 

1992
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:07,300
Well looks shy to say, well my I
just realized my mom's listen. 

1993
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,100
I don't know what that means. 
No. 

1994
01:48:10,100 --> 01:48:15,900
I mean we just heard you did 
Charles. 

1995
01:48:16,100 --> 01:48:19,500
Wow. 
Yeah I think it's just so cute. 

1996
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:20,900
They take forever as I could 
buy. 

1997
01:48:20,900 --> 01:48:21,900
Like that. 
Is it? 

1998
01:48:21,900 --> 01:48:25,800
That is adorable. 
Those people who have that bone 

1999
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:33,600
must have been like oh my God. 
So just like, I was so boring. 

2000
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:38,600
Yeah, Lou speak at this event. 
Yes, like, yeah. 

2001
01:48:38,700 --> 01:48:41,000
But that is such a violation of 
privacy. 

2002
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:45,400
That is tough. 
I know, I am so sorry real if 

2003
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:49,300
you have this, but I do feel bad
and really after they were 

2004
01:48:49,300 --> 01:48:52,700
really freaked out and like, 
probably didn't have calls like 

2005
01:48:52,700 --> 01:48:55,000
that. 
Yeah, I don't think they did. 

2006
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:59,200
I mean, they probably shouldn't 
be but I know the other book I 

2007
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:02,400
read the Sally. 
A metalsmith book said, the 

2008
01:49:02,407 --> 01:49:05,700
terrible irony for Charles had 
spoken and written endlessly on 

2009
01:49:05,700 --> 01:49:08,700
a behalf of his Myriad causes 
the words that would stick. 

2010
01:49:08,700 --> 01:49:11,600
In the Public's mind would be 
his wish to live inside, 

2011
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:19,200
Camilla's trousers as a tampin, 
that's Elizabeth, must be so 

2012
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:23,200
mad. 
She was. 

2013
01:49:23,700 --> 01:49:26,600
Yeah, I mean she doesn't show 
much emotion, but I'm pretty 

2014
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:30,400
sure she was like, that's it. 
Yeah. 

2015
01:49:30,500 --> 01:49:34,400
Like are you? 
Yeah, this was huge though. 

2016
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,100
Like yours me five entire Night 
Live cartoons? 

2017
01:49:37,100 --> 01:49:41,300
Mean, we were too young to 
remember but how embarrassing? 

2018
01:49:41,300 --> 01:49:42,300
Like, how we weren't even like 
it. 

2019
01:49:42,300 --> 01:49:46,500
But there's just like, if like a
group of 10 people overheard 

2020
01:49:46,500 --> 01:49:50,700
that conversation though. 
I know, I know people, they know

2021
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:53,200
that even survived. 
That is crazy. 

2022
01:49:53,300 --> 01:49:56,900
I love I'm gonna treasure this. 
I'm gonna just pull this book 

2023
01:49:56,900 --> 01:50:00,600
out whenever I need a good mood 
and just read that. 

2024
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:05,600
Yeah. 
Yeah, it was a lot of it, but 

2025
01:50:05,900 --> 01:50:10,600
Charles approval rating went way
down how you do those polls. 

2026
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:12,900
Oh yeah. 
Istanbul approval, rating was 

2027
01:50:12,900 --> 01:50:17,800
now too low for percent before 
he married Diana. 70 percent of 

2028
01:50:17,808 --> 01:50:20,900
people said he was the most 
likable person in the room only.

2029
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:28,000
How long is it ago for my God? 
Yeah. 4% or not? 

2030
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:31,000
They're loyal, must be the old 
lady. 

2031
01:50:31,100 --> 01:50:36,100
Yeah. 
Yeah, this is this is bad. 

2032
01:50:36,100 --> 01:50:39,800
Camilla had to stay in hiding 
after this and she felt like she

2033
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:41,100
couldn't even call Charles 
because she was afraid. 

2034
01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:45,400
Her phone was tapped and you see
in the conversation how much 

2035
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:49,100
Camilla encourages him? 
She says so many times like, oh,

2036
01:50:49,100 --> 01:50:52,400
a big old Broner, you're proud 
of you. 

2037
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:55,300
Yeah. 
She and she says, like, all his 

2038
01:50:55,300 --> 01:50:58,100
friends admire him and stuff 
like, she's just complimenting 

2039
01:50:58,100 --> 01:51:01,100
him left and right think he 
needed a lot of. 

2040
01:51:01,100 --> 01:51:03,000
Of assurance. 
Yeah, you know, it's just what 

2041
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:07,100
he needs. 
I have this quote from some 

2042
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:10,000
again. 
It's like an immediate family 

2043
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:12,400
member. 
Who I don't, is it true? 

2044
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:14,200
I don't know. 
But an immediate family member 

2045
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:17,100
apparently. 
Once told the author of Giles 

2046
01:51:17,100 --> 01:51:19,800
that Charles has always needed a
comforter. 

2047
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,300
What he gets from, Camilla is 
what he used to get from his 

2048
01:51:22,300 --> 01:51:24,900
nurse. 
He never got that from Diana. 

2049
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:27,100
Yeah. 
Maybe think Love Languages. 

2050
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:30,700
Mmm. 
That's that's super important 

2051
01:51:30,700 --> 01:51:33,300
for your Language. 
I just can't stop thinking about

2052
01:51:33,300 --> 01:51:36,900
the fact that him and I and only
went on 13 days and then he goes

2053
01:51:36,900 --> 01:51:39,700
away for six months. 
That's basically reciting your 

2054
01:51:39,700 --> 01:51:42,100
back. 
I know skinning, I know, it's 

2055
01:51:42,100 --> 01:51:45,300
crazy. 
It just, it was not, didn't have

2056
01:51:45,300 --> 01:51:49,900
a good start. 
They and know it's sad, it's 

2057
01:51:49,900 --> 01:51:52,300
tough because you can't really 
say too, like, oh, they 

2058
01:51:52,300 --> 01:51:55,300
shouldn't have been together 
because now, you know, this, 

2059
01:51:55,500 --> 01:51:58,900
Harry and William, and they have
kids and like, it's, it's exempt

2060
01:51:58,900 --> 01:52:00,900
to be a guess. 
Yeah, exactly. 

2061
01:52:01,100 --> 01:52:03,500
It is still so sad. 
Yeah. 

2062
01:52:03,500 --> 01:52:06,800
So you know people really hated 
Charles and Camilla and a lot of

2063
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:10,800
people still do because of this 
and Paparazzi is feet, following

2064
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:12,900
them everywhere. 
And then there's that story 

2065
01:52:12,900 --> 01:52:16,100
about women throwing rolls at 
Camilla, at a supermarket. 

2066
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:18,100
Yeah, which apparently wasn't 
true. 

2067
01:52:18,100 --> 01:52:20,600
But it was believable because 
that's how much people hated 

2068
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:23,400
her. 
But, Charles went to the US and 

2069
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:27,300
he spoke at the College of 
William and Mary and The 

2070
01:52:27,300 --> 01:52:29,900
audience greeted him. 
A cheers whistles & Applause and

2071
01:52:29,900 --> 01:52:34,000
standing in Innovation because 
apparently physically touched in

2072
01:52:34,008 --> 01:52:35,500
the Daily. 
Mail said he hadn't seen me. 

2073
01:52:35,500 --> 01:52:37,700
Welcome like that in England for
a long time. 

2074
01:52:37,700 --> 01:52:39,700
Wow. 
Because I'm married in July. 

2075
01:52:39,700 --> 01:52:49,000
Yeah, you dirty guy drama. 
He often felt like I think he 

2076
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,600
felt more liked in places like 
America and Australia for 

2077
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:54,600
whatever reason. 
Yeah. 

2078
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:58,700
And I feel like that's true here
to like, Now like with the 

2079
01:52:58,700 --> 01:53:01,900
younger Royals, I feel like I 
read things about people in 

2080
01:53:01,900 --> 01:53:05,800
England, not liking them or 
whatever and literally really 

2081
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:09,300
like judgmental and Megan Marcos
teams over there and like over 

2082
01:53:09,300 --> 01:53:15,400
here, it's like people like her 
and yeah Charles and Diana we're

2083
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:17,500
now basically living Separate 
Lives. 

2084
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:21,100
They basically had been whole 
time is still married and then 

2085
01:53:21,100 --> 01:53:25,300
there was this broadcast of a TV
documentary called Charles 

2086
01:53:25,300 --> 01:53:28,900
private man, the public role. 
Two and a half hours long and he

2087
01:53:28,900 --> 01:53:31,100
had been filming this. 
He let this director. 

2088
01:53:31,100 --> 01:53:33,700
Jonathan demme will be follow 
him around for a year and a half

2089
01:53:33,700 --> 01:53:38,300
to improve his reputation. 
And he hadn't been sure how to 

2090
01:53:38,300 --> 01:53:41,000
approach the infidelity in the 
documentary. 

2091
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:45,500
So he decided to just be honest.
So I'm going to play a clip. 

2092
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:49,700
Oh, good to see Charles's very 
Posh voice. 

2093
01:53:52,800 --> 01:54:00,800
I know what I can say is that 
there is no truth in in in so 

2094
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:10,200
much of this speculation and 
this is Taco Bell's is a great 

2095
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:13,500
friend of mine and I have a 
large number of friends and 

2096
01:54:13,500 --> 01:54:17,500
terribly lucky to have so many 
friends who I think are 

2097
01:54:17,500 --> 01:54:21,700
wonderful and make the whole 
difference to my life which had 

2098
01:54:21,700 --> 01:54:26,600
become intolerable otherwise and
she has been a friend for very 

2099
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:31,700
long time and Along with a lot 
of other friends and will 

2100
01:54:31,700 --> 01:54:33,800
continue to be a friend for very
long time. 

2101
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:40,400
And I think also, most people 
probably would realize that when

2102
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:44,700
marriage is breakdown awful and 
miserable as that. 

2103
01:54:44,700 --> 01:54:48,500
He's that so often, you know, 
that it is your friends who are 

2104
01:54:48,500 --> 01:54:53,500
the most important and helpful 
and understanding and 

2105
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:56,300
encouraging. 
Otherwise, you would go Stark 

2106
01:54:56,300 --> 01:54:58,200
raving. 
Mad. 

2107
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:03,900
And that's what friends are for.
Understandably, when your 

2108
01:55:03,900 --> 01:55:08,000
marriage collapsed you form 
close friendships, you 

2109
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:13,300
re-establish close, friendships 
of whatever character that 

2110
01:55:13,300 --> 01:55:16,200
friendship is. 
Where are you? 

2111
01:55:17,500 --> 01:55:22,300
Did you try to be faithful and 
honorable to your wife when you 

2112
01:55:22,300 --> 01:55:26,500
took on the vow of marriage is 
absolutely. 

2113
01:55:28,100 --> 01:55:35,200
And you were, yes. 
Until it became irretrievably 

2114
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:38,300
broken down. 
A space. 

2115
01:55:38,300 --> 01:55:44,100
Having tried. 
You've been very open about all 

2116
01:55:44,100 --> 01:55:49,500
of this and what you've, what 
you've said do you now hope that

2117
01:55:49,500 --> 01:55:54,100
this issue and expect this issue
to go away wood? 

2118
01:55:54,100 --> 01:55:56,000
Is that what you hope will now 
happen? 

2119
01:55:56,900 --> 01:56:00,600
Whatever those to be dead from 
everybody's point of view? 

2120
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:02,900
I mean, I do think many other 
people have to go through this 

2121
01:56:02,900 --> 01:56:07,200
constant tension. 
Not just me, but others, you 

2122
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:08,800
know, when their marriage is 
breakdown. 

2123
01:56:09,300 --> 01:56:14,000
I mean, as I've said before, it 
is A deeply regrettable thing to

2124
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:19,400
happen but it does happen. 
And unfortunately in this case 

2125
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:23,400
it has happened and it's the 
last possible thing that I ever 

2126
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:25,900
wanted to happen. 
I'm not a total idiot. 

2127
01:56:25,900 --> 01:56:32,100
I do unaware of all these 
problems that is those is this 

2128
01:56:32,100 --> 01:56:35,200
business of predicting, what 
everybody would say it's not 

2129
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:38,700
something that I went into 
marriage, you know, with the 

2130
01:56:38,700 --> 01:56:43,000
intention of this happening. 
Or in any way in a cynical frame

2131
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,700
of mind. 
I mean, I I'm honest on the 

2132
01:56:45,700 --> 01:56:54,700
whole not as cynical person. 
And, you know, I have I sighs 

2133
01:56:54,700 --> 01:56:57,600
self-righteousness is about have
on the whole tried. 

2134
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:02,700
I think to, to get it right 
constantly people scrutinizing. 

2135
01:57:02,700 --> 01:57:05,500
I mean, it, it, I have always 
tried to get it right. 

2136
01:57:05,500 --> 01:57:08,200
Try to do the right thing by 
everybody. 

2137
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:13,800
So you can imagine, it's not, 
it's not a very happy or 

2138
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,200
encouraging thing when this sort
of business happened. 

2139
01:57:17,700 --> 01:57:23,300
So on, It would be nice if you 
know if he could be over and 

2140
01:57:23,300 --> 01:57:25,200
done with, I mean it has 
happened. 

2141
01:57:25,500 --> 01:57:28,200
That is that is that 
regrettably? 

2142
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:37,600
Oh, I love when he was like, I 
mean, I'm not totally like 

2143
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:44,900
admitting that he's somewhat but
I mean, he has a point like it's

2144
01:57:44,900 --> 01:57:49,000
not really at the end of the 
day, a unique situation. 

2145
01:57:49,300 --> 01:57:52,900
So many people. 
There are just just do not work 

2146
01:57:52,900 --> 01:57:57,400
out, and divorce is so normal. 
But for yeah, him he's held to 

2147
01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:59,700
such a different standard from 
anybody else. 

2148
01:57:59,900 --> 01:58:02,200
He's only Human is what he's 
trying to say. 

2149
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:04,900
If they were just like random 
people living out in the 

2150
01:58:04,907 --> 01:58:09,500
countryside would be like hmm 
Nobody Till It's helped us such 

2151
01:58:09,500 --> 01:58:12,800
a different standard. 
Yeah I do think it's sad when he

2152
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:14,700
says like I tried to get it 
right? 

2153
01:58:14,700 --> 01:58:16,200
Yeah I got to do the right 
thing. 

2154
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:18,500
I feel like that's where he went
wrong. 

2155
01:58:18,500 --> 01:58:23,500
I know, obviously it's nice to 
try to do right to other people 

2156
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:27,200
and right by the people, but you
really can't live your life. 

2157
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:32,700
Trying to please people that way
because it does later on just 

2158
01:58:32,700 --> 01:58:36,500
lead to so many more problems 
like, it would have hurt Diana 

2159
01:58:36,500 --> 01:58:40,000
to break up with her before the 
wedding or something. 

2160
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:42,800
But I think it would have hurt 
much less than. 

2161
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:43,800
Yeah. 
All this, you know? 

2162
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:46,200
Yeah, I mean you had to leave, 
lead your life with 

2163
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:48,200
authenticity. 
Hmm. 

2164
01:58:49,500 --> 01:58:52,300
Try to get it right. 
Jaw do the right thing and I do 

2165
01:58:52,300 --> 01:58:54,700
think it really does make him 
sad that the marriage didn't 

2166
01:58:54,700 --> 01:58:58,200
work out like, where he's like 
it's an incredible thing. 

2167
01:58:58,500 --> 01:59:02,800
Yeah, I didn't want this like 
yeah, I do believe him. 

2168
01:59:02,900 --> 01:59:05,100
I genuinely believe him and 
trust him. 

2169
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:08,100
I believed him, too. 
I really do think he was like a 

2170
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:10,800
romantic and he is very 
religious to. 

2171
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:13,700
I don't think he ever wanted to 
get divorced. 

2172
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:16,200
I don't know. 
I do think at the end of the day

2173
01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:19,900
is just very bad match and he 
probably should have known a 

2174
01:59:19,907 --> 01:59:21,400
little better because he's 
older. 

2175
01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:25,600
But She's getting pressured by 
people, you know. 

2176
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:27,500
Yeah. 
And it's not something that none

2177
01:59:27,500 --> 01:59:31,300
of us can understand. 
Yeah, apparently, 14 million 

2178
01:59:31,300 --> 01:59:34,700
people watched this confession 
and did not go. 

2179
01:59:34,700 --> 01:59:38,900
Well yeah, honesty did not earn 
him points of the public at all 

2180
01:59:39,700 --> 01:59:43,900
earned him points with me. 
Honestly, why did he admit it on

2181
01:59:43,900 --> 01:59:45,800
TV? 
Apparently Camilla had wanted 

2182
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:50,000
him to avoid discussing their 
Affair but he was determined to 

2183
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:51,600
connect. 
Correct. 

2184
01:59:51,700 --> 01:59:55,600
The misconception that 
Unfaithful from the start Takin 

2185
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:57,300
trips. 
And yes, people, probably 

2186
01:59:57,300 --> 01:59:59,900
everybody was saying he was 
treating the whole time, then 

2187
02:00:00,300 --> 02:00:05,900
1995, January, 10th, Camilla and
Andrew announced their divorce, 

2188
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:10,800
finally hmmm and fun fact. 
I sold their house to the 

2189
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:13,400
drummer of Pink Floyd. 
Oh wow, I don't know. 

2190
02:00:13,700 --> 02:00:18,600
I know Camilla moved five miles 
away to a picturesque English 

2191
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:22,700
Village lacock and but boss 
probably. 

2192
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:26,100
Friends. 
But a Stone House on 27 acres 

2193
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:30,800
and Charles took to took charge 
of refurbishing her garden and 

2194
02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:34,600
he had a security system 
installed and he also made his 

2195
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:40,600
staff available to her, okay. 
So then in like an act of random

2196
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:42,900
guessing your something Dan and 
sat down for her. 

2197
02:00:42,900 --> 02:00:48,300
For our interview, for our 
interview TV interview, I think 

2198
02:00:48,300 --> 02:00:50,000
this is actually the 
interviewer. 

2199
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:52,700
She says, there were three of us
in the yeah, that sounds great. 

2200
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:57,400
And it came out on Charles 
birthday God. 

2201
02:00:57,400 --> 02:01:01,900
Sobbing, I know, 47th birthday, 
November 14th. 15 million people

2202
02:01:01,900 --> 02:01:03,900
watched this so million more 
than Charles is. 

2203
02:01:03,900 --> 02:01:09,600
Wow, yeah, she said, the thing 
about the marriage been crowded 

2204
02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:13,200
and she also expressed doubts 
about Charles being able to rain

2205
02:01:13,700 --> 02:01:16,000
and this was the last straw for 
the queen. 

2206
02:01:16,200 --> 02:01:20,600
Mmm, she swiftly sent letters to
Diana and Charles and requested 

2207
02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:22,500
that they divorce as soon as 
possible. 

2208
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:26,200
Why haven't they already living?
Like just not allowed to think 

2209
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:29,400
they weren't allowed to, and I 
think I do think Charles was 

2210
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:32,300
always kind of afraid to make 
decisions without his mom 

2211
02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:36,200
leaving, but I think he thought 
he would couldn't or some. 

2212
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:39,300
Yeah, I wonder if he ever would 
have. 

2213
02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:44,600
If his mother didn't tell him to
do apparently, his that's funny.

2214
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:48,800
Because I just can't do it. 
This is completely against 

2215
02:01:48,800 --> 02:01:51,100
everything I believe but you 
need to divide. 

2216
02:01:51,100 --> 02:01:52,700
Yeah. 
Because a she was like also 

2217
02:01:52,900 --> 02:01:56,300
Religious and didn't want them 
to get divorced. 

2218
02:01:56,300 --> 02:02:00,900
But yeah, apparently her letters
were polite but firm and to 

2219
02:02:00,900 --> 02:02:03,800
Diana she signed it with love 
from Mama. 

2220
02:02:03,800 --> 02:02:06,700
Oh wow, it's custody. 
It is sweet. 

2221
02:02:06,900 --> 02:02:08,700
She always surprises you that 
Queen Elizabeth. 

2222
02:02:09,100 --> 02:02:12,600
He's like a bad lady. 
Even like I don't think she's 

2223
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:16,700
badly to even hear me. 
And Megan are like, you know, we

2224
02:02:16,700 --> 02:02:19,100
love the queen. 
We're not bashing the queen, 

2225
02:02:19,300 --> 02:02:22,900
she's not bad. 
I think she is just very There's

2226
02:02:22,900 --> 02:02:28,600
about role as Queen and it's 
maybe not the most like 

2227
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:30,500
approachable person. 
Yeah, comfy. 

2228
02:02:30,500 --> 02:02:32,900
But I don't think she's a mean, 
person that coldness has been 

2229
02:02:32,900 --> 02:02:36,200
like indoctrinated into her 
since like she was a child. 

2230
02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:39,900
Can't blame her for that. 
Yeah, it's all connected. 

2231
02:02:40,100 --> 02:02:43,300
So the terms of Charles and 
Diana's settlement was announced

2232
02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:48,000
July 12. 1996 now. 
Charles and Camilla were both 

2233
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:52,300
divorced, but neither were free 
because like everybody hated 

2234
02:02:52,300 --> 02:02:54,600
them. 
And they for, you know, they 

2235
02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:57,200
needed approval of the people 
and Charles couldn't just start 

2236
02:02:57,200 --> 02:03:00,700
like dating Camilla because 
everybody hated her and Charles 

2237
02:03:00,700 --> 02:03:04,700
issued a statement saying, he 
had no intention to remarry and 

2238
02:03:04,700 --> 02:03:07,400
I think he probably meant it. 
I think he probably thought that

2239
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:11,900
wasn't really an option for him.
Yeah, Camilla's basically on 

2240
02:03:11,900 --> 02:03:14,900
house arrest since then his 
interview, she had to use 

2241
02:03:14,900 --> 02:03:19,700
backdoors sneak around and 
Charles hid under a blanket in 

2242
02:03:19,700 --> 02:03:21,900
the back seat of a car when he 
visited her. 

2243
02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:25,200
Wow. 
Wow, you know, and love British 

2244
02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:28,500
tabloids were really intense 
about Charles and Camilla, like 

2245
02:03:28,500 --> 02:03:31,700
they would have a capital letter
titles like bed of sin. 

2246
02:03:31,700 --> 02:03:41,300
Wow. 
They hated the loose but he 

2247
02:03:41,300 --> 02:03:45,400
didn't and this is when 
operation PB begin. 

2248
02:03:45,900 --> 02:03:49,900
What does that same operation? 
Parker-bowles, apparently, they 

2249
02:03:49,900 --> 02:03:52,300
called her mrs. 
P be like around. 

2250
02:03:53,500 --> 02:03:55,500
Palace. 
Oh Alice. 

2251
02:03:55,500 --> 02:03:56,800
Yeah. 
Mrs. P b. 

2252
02:03:56,900 --> 02:03:58,300
So they're trying to get rid of 
her. 

2253
02:03:58,900 --> 02:04:02,300
No. 
Actually this is someone that I 

2254
02:04:02,300 --> 02:04:06,000
think Charles hired or something
named Mike Boland and he became 

2255
02:04:06,300 --> 02:04:08,900
mrs. 
P bees private secretary and 

2256
02:04:08,900 --> 02:04:12,400
executed a long-term campaign to
improve her Public Image. 

2257
02:04:12,500 --> 02:04:16,300
Wow, operation PB. 
Which is that entail? 

2258
02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:20,000
Well, get into it. 
Well, generate a Chinese 7. 

2259
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:24,000
There was a televised debate 
about the monarchy And just 

2260
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:28,000
between people, I don't know 
about like, should we have more 

2261
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:30,000
Nikki ever? 
And I guess when her name was 

2262
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:35,900
mentioned the audience booed 
Pork that is low. 

2263
02:04:35,900 --> 02:04:40,100
So, for operation PB, it was a 
long slow process. 

2264
02:04:40,100 --> 02:04:43,500
There are strategic about having
her at some things, and not 

2265
02:04:43,500 --> 02:04:46,300
others. 
Her mother had died of 

2266
02:04:46,300 --> 02:04:49,000
osteoporosis, I guess. 
So, she started getting really 

2267
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:52,400
involved with the osteoporosis 
society and her and her sister 

2268
02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:55,400
held an event for them July 
1997. 

2269
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:58,200
So that was like, a good moment 
for her, you know, it went well 

2270
02:04:58,700 --> 02:05:02,200
and then July 18th, they sell 
Charles and Camilla celebrated, 

2271
02:05:02,200 --> 02:05:05,400
her birthday. 
So this is like, you know, the 

2272
02:05:05,500 --> 02:05:07,600
debate or people boot her was 
January. 

2273
02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:11,400
Now this is July, they had a 
party and they're openly like 

2274
02:05:11,800 --> 02:05:13,600
intimate. 
I don't know what that means. 

2275
02:05:13,600 --> 02:05:14,500
Like, I don't know if they're 
okay. 

2276
02:05:14,700 --> 02:05:16,600
I don't think they're kissing or
anything, but I think they were 

2277
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:20,200
just like together at this party
and like it went, okay? 

2278
02:05:20,500 --> 02:05:23,800
Diana was following operation 
pebes progress. 

2279
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:26,200
I don't know if she knew it was 
official thing or if she was 

2280
02:05:26,200 --> 02:05:30,900
just like keeping her eye on 
Camilla, but her and Charles 

2281
02:05:30,900 --> 02:05:33,100
relationship was actually like a
little better when they saw. 

2282
02:05:33,200 --> 02:05:35,700
So each other. 
Yeah, now that they were 

2283
02:05:35,700 --> 02:05:38,800
divorced, but she still showed 
some Mischief apparently at a 

2284
02:05:38,808 --> 02:05:42,800
party charity cocktail event in 
New York City. 

2285
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:46,900
She wore a gold link bracelet 
that had interlocking sees and 

2286
02:05:46,900 --> 02:05:49,700
she pointed to the class and 
said to people, this is for 

2287
02:05:49,700 --> 02:05:53,200
Charles and that is for Camilla 
and everybody laughed. 

2288
02:05:55,100 --> 02:05:57,900
Yeah. 
Camilla was still not invited to

2289
02:05:57,900 --> 02:05:59,600
Royal events even though I 
guess. 

2290
02:05:59,600 --> 02:06:02,500
Technically she was like his 
girlfriend but yeah, I was 

2291
02:06:02,500 --> 02:06:04,600
invited to things. 
But she did have a little 

2292
02:06:04,600 --> 02:06:08,500
Success New Yorker published an 
affectionate portrait of her 

2293
02:06:08,500 --> 02:06:13,100
describing her self-deprecating 
humor and how she'd answer the 

2294
02:06:13,100 --> 02:06:17,700
phone Rottweiler here for 
Diana's nickname about her. 

2295
02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:20,500
The author Patty. 
Oh the author of The Articles 

2296
02:06:20,500 --> 02:06:24,500
said I think about about Charles
and Camilla said you know after 

2297
02:06:24,500 --> 02:06:27,200
all these years they're just 
happy to breathe the same air. 

2298
02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:31,900
Hmm which is sweet. 
That is sweet because I was 

2299
02:06:31,900 --> 02:06:35,800
nervous that maybe Part of the 
appeal for them, was that it was

2300
02:06:35,800 --> 02:06:40,100
an affair and that that would 
die down - they were free to be 

2301
02:06:40,100 --> 02:06:42,900
with each other. 
I was worried about that too 

2302
02:06:43,600 --> 02:06:45,400
doesn't seem like it. 
Luckily, I think that's not the 

2303
02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:46,400
case. 
Mmm. 

2304
02:06:47,700 --> 02:06:49,100
Okay. 
And then I got a pivot from all 

2305
02:06:49,100 --> 02:06:54,600
the fun and everything because 
Then it takes term for tragedy, 

2306
02:06:55,100 --> 02:06:59,900
latest of the sign of the cross.
Yeah, August 31st, 1997. 

2307
02:07:01,100 --> 02:07:05,500
Diana was in a limousine with 
her current boyfriend. 

2308
02:07:05,500 --> 02:07:11,900
Dodi fade, right? 
Um, and it crashed, it instantly

2309
02:07:11,900 --> 02:07:15,600
killed Dodie and the driver. 
And then she was taken to the 

2310
02:07:15,608 --> 02:07:20,900
hospital and passed away. 
She was only 36 years old. 

2311
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:24,000
So sad. 
And it's actually crazy because 

2312
02:07:25,100 --> 02:07:29,300
in we're not recording exactly. 
But in two days it's the 25th 

2313
02:07:29,700 --> 02:07:31,600
year anniversary I guess of her 
death. 

2314
02:07:32,100 --> 02:07:35,900
Wow. 
So it's very sad. 

2315
02:07:35,900 --> 02:07:37,600
I know and it's completely 
shocking. 

2316
02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:41,700
I mean we I was only like two 
and a half or something. 

2317
02:07:41,700 --> 02:07:45,100
So I didn't remember it but the 
time but Charles is said to have

2318
02:07:45,100 --> 02:07:48,600
been distraught and he let his 
sons. 

2319
02:07:48,700 --> 02:07:52,000
I think he heard the news but 
then he let his sons sleep. 

2320
02:07:52,900 --> 02:07:56,600
You had the television removed 
from their sitting room and when

2321
02:07:56,600 --> 02:08:00,300
they woke up at 7:15 a.m. he 
told them what had happened. 

2322
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:02,800
Doug must have been truly 
Brandel. 

2323
02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:07,100
It's so sad. 
It's, he flew to Paris to bring 

2324
02:08:07,100 --> 02:08:10,400
Diana's body back and on the 
Queen's order to be treated as 

2325
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:14,500
royal family and they held a 
Royal Funeral for her. 

2326
02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:18,400
And he did worry that, the Press
would blame him for her death. 

2327
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:23,000
Well, people do think that they 
killed her like, Charles, People

2328
02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:25,000
just think that, like, the royal
family, like, the queen 

2329
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:27,200
included. 
Oh, yeah, I really don't. 

2330
02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:29,800
I don't think so either. 
I mean, come on. 

2331
02:08:29,800 --> 02:08:33,200
Like, you know, I mean, this is 
what I'm gonna move on. 

2332
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:37,200
Yeah, I don't think so. 
I think it was just a terrible 

2333
02:08:37,200 --> 02:08:42,000
accident. 
And they mean, the Press I think

2334
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:43,800
killed her. 
Yeah, I can't lie. 

2335
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:47,400
Apparently Charles Charles, 
apparently, William and Harry. 

2336
02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:50,800
When they were little, literally
thought they killed her 

2337
02:08:51,200 --> 02:08:54,600
depressed like beat her to death
or something, but they were like

2338
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:57,300
being chased and trying to 
escape Paparazzi and stuff. 

2339
02:08:57,300 --> 02:09:00,100
So it's not really dangerous 
situation. 

2340
02:09:00,100 --> 02:09:06,800
Yeah, it's really sad and I do I
feel bad like and even going 

2341
02:09:06,800 --> 02:09:09,300
ahead like, yeah, Charles and 
Camilla are still together. 

2342
02:09:09,500 --> 02:09:15,800
Is today and part of you and I 
bet Charles and Camilla kind of 

2343
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:17,600
feel this way. 
Like feel a little bad that 

2344
02:09:17,600 --> 02:09:19,100
Diana died. 
You know. 

2345
02:09:19,100 --> 02:09:20,400
Yeah. 
That they got to have. 

2346
02:09:20,400 --> 02:09:22,200
They're like happy ending. 
You know. 

2347
02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:23,900
It's like a weird thing. 
Yeah. 

2348
02:09:23,900 --> 02:09:26,700
Cuz I think she would have had 
such a great life. 

2349
02:09:27,700 --> 02:09:30,500
If had she not had died like I 
am optimistic. 

2350
02:09:30,500 --> 02:09:31,700
She would have found someone 
else. 

2351
02:09:31,700 --> 02:09:33,900
Yeah. 
Had a good, mmm. 

2352
02:09:34,900 --> 02:09:38,500
Love Story. 
Been a great mom like like had a

2353
02:09:38,500 --> 02:09:42,900
lot of success and it is really 
tragic. 

2354
02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:46,900
It is so true. 
Heard that story ended only like

2355
02:09:47,400 --> 02:09:50,400
at that point in her life. 
There's so much unfinished. 

2356
02:09:51,300 --> 02:09:55,500
It's horrible. 
It's so sad. 

2357
02:09:55,500 --> 02:09:58,500
She was so young. 
I love your mouth. 

2358
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:02,500
I love you cow. 
I know, I'm just scared to die. 

2359
02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:06,100
Oh, I can't believe in me, even 
I'm gonna die. 

2360
02:10:06,100 --> 02:10:08,700
Sometimes I want to make a 
collage of like, just everyone, 

2361
02:10:09,400 --> 02:10:12,800
I care about, who's died. 
Just from, just to look at me. 

2362
02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:15,600
Like, that's really sweet. 
I can do it, too. 

2363
02:10:15,700 --> 02:10:20,700
You know what I mean? 
Yeah, yeah. 

2364
02:10:20,700 --> 02:10:25,400
That's really even someone as 
young and cool, and loved and 

2365
02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:26,900
fresh and just everything is 
Diana. 

2366
02:10:26,900 --> 02:10:31,400
Like she I know I know we're 
gonna to, you know, I know. 

2367
02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:36,600
So guys live every day? 
No it's kind of hard to live 

2368
02:10:36,600 --> 02:10:43,600
like I hope she had a good day 
in Paris, you know? 

2369
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:46,900
Yeah she was. 
I mean I'm guessing she's with 

2370
02:10:46,900 --> 02:10:50,100
Dodie. 
I think it was a new love type 

2371
02:10:50,100 --> 02:10:51,800
of thing. 
I hope she had a good day. 

2372
02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:57,400
Yeah so tragic and I do really 
feel bad for Charles having a 

2373
02:10:57,500 --> 02:11:02,600
That news to his boy know, and 
he did really love his boys. 

2374
02:11:02,600 --> 02:11:05,300
I mean, I think that what's he 
like as a father, I didn't put 

2375
02:11:05,300 --> 02:11:08,100
too much about because there's 
just so much information. 

2376
02:11:09,100 --> 02:11:12,700
I didn't put too much about them
in here, but I do think he's a 

2377
02:11:12,700 --> 02:11:14,700
good dad. 
And I do think that after 

2378
02:11:14,700 --> 02:11:17,200
Diana's death. 
I feel like the three of them. 

2379
02:11:17,300 --> 02:11:19,000
You know, we're really close. 
Yeah. 

2380
02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:23,100
They are things like today. 
Him and William are like best 

2381
02:11:23,100 --> 02:11:24,000
friend. 
Doing all. 

2382
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:26,300
The guys will stop. 
Yeah. 

2383
02:11:27,500 --> 02:11:29,600
Seems like he's a strange. 
I'm Harry. 

2384
02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:33,800
I would say, I don't know, I 
don't know the details that have

2385
02:11:33,800 --> 02:11:38,300
to read read a book about it. 
But after this, though, after 

2386
02:11:38,300 --> 02:11:42,800
this happened it was like, okay,
operation PB is going to take a 

2387
02:11:42,808 --> 02:11:47,100
lot longer than we thought. 
Like we can't have Charles out 

2388
02:11:47,100 --> 02:11:49,400
and about like, oh no, I'm so 
bad. 

2389
02:11:49,400 --> 02:11:52,400
I'm having fun with Camilla. 
So they kind of had they took a 

2390
02:11:52,400 --> 02:11:57,800
few steps back after this. 
A year after Diana's death, he 

2391
02:11:58,100 --> 02:12:02,300
made the first of his first of 
half dozen. 

2392
02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:04,700
Okay. 
So I guess six weight first. 

2393
02:12:04,700 --> 02:12:12,200
Yeah, I'm like cows. 
Got to the Eastern Orthodox 

2394
02:12:12,300 --> 02:12:16,900
Monastery. 
Monastic Enclave on Mount Athos.

2395
02:12:16,900 --> 02:12:20,300
There's like a monastery and 
he's basically just going to 

2396
02:12:20,300 --> 02:12:24,700
focus on his spirituality and he
lived Monastery lifestyle, 

2397
02:12:24,700 --> 02:12:28,700
practicing each With prayer, 
sharing meals with the monks and

2398
02:12:28,900 --> 02:12:32,300
having service at night. 
We pray for hours and it was a 

2399
02:12:32,308 --> 02:12:34,000
place. 
You could be as old fashioned as

2400
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:35,900
he liked. 
That's sweet. 

2401
02:12:35,900 --> 02:12:38,100
I bet he was like trying to work
through all this. 

2402
02:12:38,100 --> 02:12:41,800
Yeah, he's doing the work. 
He's doing the work, finally. 

2403
02:12:42,900 --> 02:12:45,300
Yes, he's doing the work as they
say. 

2404
02:12:45,300 --> 02:12:48,800
Yeah, he did bring us out of 
like phone, though, to 

2405
02:12:48,800 --> 02:12:52,700
communicate with Camilla. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

2406
02:12:55,600 --> 02:13:01,200
Or else he gets proposed to her 
all those years. 

2407
02:13:02,700 --> 02:13:09,400
So yeah. 
So he had to be cautious about 

2408
02:13:09,400 --> 02:13:13,000
resuming public life with her. 
Hmm, one of his top officials 

2409
02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:18,200
said, apparently, this is kind 
of gossipy but said she wears 

2410
02:13:18,200 --> 02:13:22,800
the pants and he would tell you 
that but see that's what he 

2411
02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:24,600
should have been saying about 
Diana. 

2412
02:13:24,700 --> 02:13:28,600
So that show So he really does 
just love Camilla. 

2413
02:13:28,600 --> 02:13:32,700
Yeah. 
And the guy, it was Marc Bolan 

2414
02:13:32,700 --> 02:13:37,100
the like PR person was doing 
operation PB said that Camilla 

2415
02:13:37,100 --> 02:13:39,700
was more attuned to the real 
world and most people around the

2416
02:13:39,700 --> 02:13:43,700
prince, but that Camilla was 
kind of in an enigma the 

2417
02:13:43,700 --> 02:13:45,800
preferred to cultivate some 
mystery. 

2418
02:13:46,500 --> 02:13:50,100
She had no need to explain 
herself or beg for approval. 

2419
02:13:50,400 --> 02:13:53,800
I do think she's an enigma, I 
still can't ya out and there's 

2420
02:13:53,800 --> 02:13:57,000
like you go on YouTube. 
There's not much about Camilla. 

2421
02:13:57,600 --> 02:14:00,800
There's like one recent 
interview weird her but like 

2422
02:14:00,800 --> 02:14:03,800
osteoporosis because we're 
sleeping on it like to shave 

2423
02:14:03,800 --> 02:14:06,100
off. 
Oh no, she just like, does that 

2424
02:14:06,100 --> 02:14:07,800
charity because we're mom. 
Yeah. 

2425
02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:10,900
Now there's one other where 
she's talking about, I think she

2426
02:14:10,907 --> 02:14:13,700
did some cause for like sexual 
assault or something that's 

2427
02:14:13,700 --> 02:14:15,600
good. 
She's just very chill. 

2428
02:14:15,600 --> 02:14:18,900
And like my ears, he's like, not
really getting attention and she

2429
02:14:18,900 --> 02:14:21,500
doesn't. 
Yeah, but I think that still 

2430
02:14:21,500 --> 02:14:24,300
even to this day, they're like 
in their 70s. 

2431
02:14:24,300 --> 02:14:28,100
Yeah, they are. 
Fraid to Governor to come out 

2432
02:14:28,100 --> 02:14:30,500
and like, have her talk because 
people will hate her. 

2433
02:14:30,600 --> 02:14:34,600
Oh yeah, that makes sense. 
Um, she still out this time, 

2434
02:14:34,700 --> 02:14:40,400
this is 998, smoked a pack and a
half a day and but spilled the 

2435
02:14:40,400 --> 02:14:44,300
ash trees of her antique table, 
she still hadn't been introduced

2436
02:14:44,300 --> 02:14:49,500
to William and Harry, but 
apparently 19 months after 

2437
02:14:49,500 --> 02:14:51,800
Diana's death. 
I think William came into the 

2438
02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:54,600
drawing-room at York house and 
saw her there. 

2439
02:14:56,200 --> 02:14:58,400
I don't really know anything 
more about that William and 

2440
02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:00,500
Harry hadn't been interested in 
meeting Camilla. 

2441
02:15:01,200 --> 02:15:04,500
It's painful. 
But one day Charles is a first 

2442
02:15:04,500 --> 02:15:07,700
step. 
He invited Camille has kids over

2443
02:15:08,300 --> 02:15:12,300
her two kids and they hung out 
with William and Harry and they 

2444
02:15:12,300 --> 02:15:13,300
had fun. 
I guess. 

2445
02:15:13,400 --> 02:15:15,600
Oh wow. 
So two months later. 

2446
02:15:15,600 --> 02:15:19,100
William said he was ready to 
meet Camilla and Camilla was so 

2447
02:15:19,100 --> 02:15:21,100
nervous. 
I guess she was like shaking. 

2448
02:15:21,100 --> 02:15:23,000
Wow. 
And I don't know if it was just 

2449
02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:24,800
her and William or I don't know 
if Charles is there. 

2450
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:30,200
I But it was only half hour, but
they had small talk over tea and

2451
02:15:30,200 --> 02:15:33,800
soft drinks. 
I guess it went well, the after 

2452
02:15:33,800 --> 02:15:36,600
Camilla left, she gasped and 
said, I really need a gin and 

2453
02:15:36,600 --> 02:15:40,700
tonic that does sound stressed. 
Yeah, but she met William two 

2454
02:15:40,700 --> 02:15:44,400
more times, the following month 
and then Harry soon after. 

2455
02:15:45,400 --> 02:15:48,400
And did they really? 
I don't even think of it like 

2456
02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:50,900
this, with their blended. 
Family like Harry. 

2457
02:15:50,900 --> 02:15:54,800
And these are, I'm have 
step-siblings. 

2458
02:15:55,000 --> 02:15:58,600
Yeah, I know, I didn't really 
know anything about them. 

2459
02:15:58,600 --> 02:15:59,500
I'm yeah. 
So sorry. 

2460
02:15:59,500 --> 02:16:00,400
I forget. 
Come on. 

2461
02:16:00,400 --> 02:16:03,900
His daughter's wedding. 
I know her son is Tom, but like 

2462
02:16:04,500 --> 02:16:06,700
I was looking at pictures and 
you can like, see Tom and some 

2463
02:16:06,700 --> 02:16:09,000
pictures so I'm like, oh, that's
interesting. 

2464
02:16:09,100 --> 02:16:12,900
Yeah. 
Um, a Buckingham Palace Source 

2465
02:16:12,900 --> 02:16:17,500
said this is 98 that the queen 
has not and will not formally 

2466
02:16:17,500 --> 02:16:19,600
meet with Camilla. 
She will not even appear at the 

2467
02:16:19,608 --> 02:16:24,400
same social function. 
Wow, they're wasting time at 

2468
02:16:24,400 --> 02:16:29,400
Charles. 50th birthday party. 
Camilla was nearby, but always 

2469
02:16:29,400 --> 02:16:33,299
out of frame. 
This was her first appearance at

2470
02:16:33,299 --> 02:16:37,000
like an official Royal public 
engagement though, but they 

2471
02:16:37,000 --> 02:16:39,799
avoided talking to each other 
all evening in the queen and 

2472
02:16:39,799 --> 02:16:43,400
Prince Philip were not there 
because of I think so. 

2473
02:16:43,500 --> 02:16:47,799
Wow, it's so dramatic. 
Like the links, they go to, I 

2474
02:16:47,807 --> 02:16:51,200
know it and like just to know 
that they do even if they do end

2475
02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:57,400
up together like just, let's go.
Stop this, you know, January 

2476
02:16:57,400 --> 02:17:00,700
28th, 1999 Thursday. 
I don't know. 

2477
02:17:00,700 --> 02:17:03,100
I have that deal. 
They made their first public 

2478
02:17:03,100 --> 02:17:05,500
appearance as a couple. 
It only lasted 20 seconds. 

2479
02:17:05,799 --> 02:17:09,000
They're leaving the Ritz hotel 
for her sister's birthday. 

2480
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:10,799
I guess, people knew they were 
going to be there. 

2481
02:17:10,799 --> 02:17:13,500
So we're all these there, like, 
200 photographers waiting 

2482
02:17:13,500 --> 02:17:16,799
outside, they just walked 
outside the hotel. 

2483
02:17:16,799 --> 02:17:20,400
He smiled and she bowed her head
slightly, he lightly touched her

2484
02:17:20,400 --> 02:17:22,900
arm before she climbed into the 
car and he walked around to the 

2485
02:17:22,900 --> 02:17:24,799
other side. 
So very subtle. 

2486
02:17:25,000 --> 02:17:27,299
Mmm. 
Yeah, but that was like their 

2487
02:17:27,299 --> 02:17:30,200
first appearance, family. 
Joan Rivers had befriended. 

2488
02:17:30,200 --> 02:17:34,200
Camilla. 
Wow, I know, I can see it and 

2489
02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:37,299
rivers said I got what she was 
about, which is full of fun, 

2490
02:17:37,299 --> 02:17:40,400
wicked sense of humor. 
And this is in a very good way. 

2491
02:17:40,400 --> 02:17:43,500
Rough Around the Edges. 
He's got to be so formal. 

2492
02:17:43,500 --> 02:17:45,400
I just love that. 
There's someone who could be 

2493
02:17:45,400 --> 02:17:48,400
Rowdy with him and silly with 
him and normal with him, that's 

2494
02:17:48,400 --> 02:17:52,799
sweet. 
Yeah, I know by May 2000. 

2495
02:17:52,799 --> 02:17:56,500
Now 44 percent of public said, 
Ed Charles, and Camilla soup 

2496
02:17:56,500 --> 02:18:00,500
should wed. 
So still more than half, people 

2497
02:18:00,500 --> 02:18:02,700
say they shouldn't but it's 
getting up. 

2498
02:18:02,700 --> 02:18:06,000
It's getting up there. 
Operation, PV they planned her 

2499
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:10,700
first face-to-face encounter 
with the queen since the 80s. 

2500
02:18:10,700 --> 02:18:15,500
Wow, this is 2000. 
Now, I can't believe they had 

2501
02:18:15,500 --> 02:18:19,799
not interact. 
I know it was not a barbecue for

2502
02:18:19,799 --> 02:18:23,000
Charles's cousin Constantine. 
60th birthdays. 

2503
02:18:23,000 --> 02:18:24,700
It's like kind of those day. 
Yeah. 

2504
02:18:24,700 --> 02:18:27,299
The Queen smiled and Camilla 
curtsied. 

2505
02:18:27,400 --> 02:18:30,299
Okay, that's it. 
That's really not. 

2506
02:18:30,299 --> 02:18:36,400
I know breaking the ice there, 
BBC called Camilla His companion

2507
02:18:36,799 --> 02:18:39,200
and she continued to be excluded
from occasions. 

2508
02:18:39,299 --> 02:18:42,000
We all know what's going on. 
There's actually this Tick Tock 

2509
02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:45,000
audio right now. 
That's like everybody knows. 

2510
02:18:45,500 --> 02:18:48,299
Everybody knows that he fucks 
you and my God. 

2511
02:18:48,299 --> 02:18:51,600
People do it like about siblings
in the folders commercial? 

2512
02:18:51,600 --> 02:18:54,700
Oh yeah, it was like, people 
that you think are yes. 

2513
02:18:54,900 --> 02:19:01,799
Yeah, this is like trying to 
pretend it's not happening, I 

2514
02:19:01,807 --> 02:19:05,500
don't know. 
But there's even this funeral of

2515
02:19:05,500 --> 02:19:08,600
his longtime Mentor, Derek Hill 
because you hit it like he had 

2516
02:19:08,600 --> 02:19:10,000
all these older friend. 
Yeah. 

2517
02:19:10,299 --> 02:19:14,000
Even at the funeral at the 
church Camilla was five fused 

2518
02:19:14,000 --> 02:19:17,700
behind Charles so awkward, you 
know? 

2519
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:20,299
It's sad like they can't be 
together. 

2520
02:19:20,700 --> 02:19:24,799
June 26, 2001 was their first 
kiss, not really obvious. 

2521
02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:28,600
But it was at an osteoporosis to
society event. 

2522
02:19:28,600 --> 02:19:30,600
Camila was hosting a benefit for
them. 

2523
02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:33,799
Charles arrived walked out of 
his limousine and mouth. 

2524
02:19:33,799 --> 02:19:36,000
Hello. 
You and kissed her on the cheek.

2525
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:39,400
So it's we make s'mores my 
heart. 

2526
02:19:40,799 --> 02:19:44,000
She was asked about her future 
with Charles, by Marc Bolan The 

2527
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:48,200
Guiding operation PB and she 
said, she had no idea about the 

2528
02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:51,000
future, he pushed further. 
And she said that many friends 

2529
02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:53,800
around her were unhappily, 
married or single and lonely. 

2530
02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:56,800
She said, then there's me Me, I 
can't really complain and don't 

2531
02:19:56,800 --> 02:19:58,200
and probably happier than all of
them. 

2532
02:19:58,200 --> 02:20:01,800
However, complicated it may be 
so they're happy, I guess. 

2533
02:20:01,800 --> 02:20:05,400
Yeah. 
Now 50 percent of British people

2534
02:20:05,400 --> 02:20:08,100
by 2002 that proved earlier 
getting married. 

2535
02:20:08,100 --> 02:20:10,400
Yeah. 
And later that year, the Church 

2536
02:20:10,400 --> 02:20:14,000
of England voted to allow 
divorced couples to remarry in 

2537
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:16,600
the church. 
Oh, deal. 

2538
02:20:17,200 --> 02:20:20,400
It's very confusing to me. 
I always thought the church 

2539
02:20:20,400 --> 02:20:23,500
England was okay with divorce. 
Yeah, that that's the reason why

2540
02:20:23,500 --> 02:20:26,200
they broke him out. 
So, Catholicism. 

2541
02:20:26,500 --> 02:20:28,600
I don't know. 
I guess I'm just ignorant and 

2542
02:20:28,600 --> 02:20:31,400
don't know. 
Yeah, this detail you guys 

2543
02:20:31,400 --> 02:20:34,400
wanted the freedom to do this. 
Yeah, I guess it's very like 

2544
02:20:34,400 --> 02:20:36,200
apparently. 
It's still? 

2545
02:20:36,200 --> 02:20:40,700
No, no, yeah. 
Just be confusing. 

2546
02:20:41,000 --> 02:20:43,400
Um, okay, this is a turning 
point, though. 

2547
02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:46,600
Charles and Camilla were invited
to the wedding of Charles is 

2548
02:20:46,600 --> 02:20:50,100
God's son. 
Edward band Cuts, mm, he's 

2549
02:20:50,100 --> 02:20:53,200
friends with the van Cuts them, 
family the parents. 

2550
02:20:53,300 --> 02:20:56,300
Yeah. 
And Only a couple days before. 

2551
02:20:56,300 --> 02:21:00,400
The ceremony Camilla's status 
was demoted and choose move to 

2552
02:21:00,400 --> 02:21:03,700
the back of the church to avoid 
offending the queen. 

2553
02:21:03,900 --> 02:21:06,300
Wow. 
And Camilla was so embarrassed 

2554
02:21:06,300 --> 02:21:09,300
that she said she couldn't 
attend and Charles side with her

2555
02:21:09,300 --> 02:21:11,900
and he didn't go either. 
And then at this point it was 

2556
02:21:11,900 --> 02:21:17,000
like, okay she's my, you know, 
partner like she's my love my 

2557
02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:18,800
life, like she can't be treated 
this way. 

2558
02:21:18,800 --> 02:21:21,000
Yeah. 
Like go to the back of the 

2559
02:21:21,000 --> 02:21:23,300
church. 
Like so he started talking to 

2560
02:21:23,300 --> 02:21:24,800
his roulades about how he could 
marry. 

2561
02:21:24,900 --> 02:21:28,300
Camilla and one issue was the 
church wedding. 

2562
02:21:28,300 --> 02:21:31,500
Apparently, he wanted a real 
religious ceremony but the 

2563
02:21:31,500 --> 02:21:35,000
Archbishop of Canterbury where I
lived it out because it would 

2564
02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:37,400
offend, many Anglican. 
I don't know. 

2565
02:21:37,400 --> 02:21:41,000
I want me to defend many 
Anglican priest and parishioners

2566
02:21:41,100 --> 02:21:44,100
and there was also the issue of 
what Camilla's title would be 

2567
02:21:44,100 --> 02:21:47,900
with people and accept her as a 
princess because that was soon 

2568
02:21:47,900 --> 02:21:50,500
as title. 
Yeah, or someday Queen. 

2569
02:21:51,500 --> 02:21:55,700
I just have two random note 
about 2005 that This is one 

2570
02:21:55,700 --> 02:21:58,800
Harry lashed out at Paparazzi 
and more his Nazi costume. 

2571
02:21:58,800 --> 02:22:01,400
Oh yeah, that was bad. 
But that's why he did it. 

2572
02:22:01,400 --> 02:22:04,600
No. 
In the same year, he lashed out 

2573
02:22:04,600 --> 02:22:07,900
of Paparazzi and then the same 
year, he went to a party dressed

2574
02:22:07,900 --> 02:22:11,100
as a man, has a Halloween party 
actually wasn't Halloween. 

2575
02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:13,800
Oh, even worse. 
I mean, it's bad either way. 

2576
02:22:13,800 --> 02:22:15,400
But why did he do this even 
worse? 

2577
02:22:15,700 --> 02:22:17,800
It was a party. 
That was themed. 

2578
02:22:18,700 --> 02:22:20,000
I wish I had the other book with
me. 

2579
02:22:20,400 --> 02:22:24,800
The theme was called something 
like Natives and colonizers or 

2580
02:22:25,400 --> 02:22:28,900
That's a terrible beauty, it 
wasn't colonizers, it was like 

2581
02:22:28,900 --> 02:22:31,800
native, I don't think that was 
the word, but it was like, you 

2582
02:22:31,800 --> 02:22:35,400
get the gist, it's a very 
controversial feel very 

2583
02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:39,700
comfortable and then he dressed 
as a Nazi but still not. 

2584
02:22:39,700 --> 02:22:43,500
See, I know good dresses. 
I mean, it's still 

2585
02:22:43,500 --> 02:22:46,100
controversial. 
I'm not saying I support this 

2586
02:22:46,100 --> 02:22:49,900
theme but it could have been 
like, a pilgrim or something to 

2587
02:22:49,900 --> 02:22:54,300
party dressed as a knot and then
get like a red Solo cup and then

2588
02:22:54,300 --> 02:22:59,100
be like, Like drinking and 
playing beer pong and having 

2589
02:22:59,100 --> 02:23:01,500
fun, when your little dress 
isn't on. 

2590
02:23:01,500 --> 02:23:04,300
See ya Harry, that's for ya. 
Houses. 

2591
02:23:04,300 --> 02:23:08,700
Keynotes house is very upset and
he's upset with William because 

2592
02:23:08,700 --> 02:23:11,300
apparently, William knew he was 
gonna go as a not seeing, like 

2593
02:23:11,300 --> 02:23:14,400
didn't stop him. 
So yeah, how does was Harry when

2594
02:23:14,400 --> 02:23:17,900
he did that. 
I mean, it was stupid, was he 

2595
02:23:17,900 --> 02:23:20,000
born? 
Oh no. 

2596
02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:22,300
Don't I don't know what. 
He's, what's 889. 

2597
02:23:22,300 --> 02:23:24,700
Yeah, he was like a teenager or 
are like 20. 

2598
02:23:24,800 --> 02:23:27,600
Something but that has nothing 
to do with anything but I just 

2599
02:23:27,600 --> 02:23:29,300
put it in. 
Look, there's another Charles 

2600
02:23:29,300 --> 02:23:31,200
was like that. 
It was yeah, really stupid. 

2601
02:23:31,300 --> 02:23:36,100
Poor Queen. 
Cheers still living through. 

2602
02:23:36,100 --> 02:23:40,600
All this drum. 
I know Harry had the whole like 

2603
02:23:40,600 --> 02:23:42,300
naked and big. 
Yes stuff. 

2604
02:23:42,300 --> 02:23:47,900
Yeah. 
I'm people forgave Harry for 

2605
02:23:47,900 --> 02:23:49,200
that. 
I will say, yeah. 

2606
02:23:49,200 --> 02:23:53,300
They can't forget his dad. 
I know honestly, what Harry did 

2607
02:23:53,300 --> 02:23:56,800
was kind of Don't worry some 
ways? 

2608
02:23:56,800 --> 02:23:58,600
Just kidding. 
I mean, it was bad there. 

2609
02:23:58,608 --> 02:24:02,800
It's sometimes one day, it was 
just one day and it was stupid. 

2610
02:24:02,800 --> 02:24:05,500
It was a bad theme. 
And I do hate when people go to 

2611
02:24:05,500 --> 02:24:06,800
parties and don't follow the 
theme. 

2612
02:24:06,800 --> 02:24:10,400
That's true, but you should not 
have weird judgment. 

2613
02:24:10,400 --> 02:24:14,500
Maybe he thought like, oh, you 
know, people dresses, the devil 

2614
02:24:14,500 --> 02:24:17,700
people dresses, villains. 
I'm gonna be a villain. 

2615
02:24:17,700 --> 02:24:22,400
Yeah. 
But some fans not but yeah, no, 

2616
02:24:22,500 --> 02:24:26,000
I don't know, in to generate 
Knows that. 

2617
02:24:26,400 --> 02:24:28,500
Yeah. 
However, let's leave biggest 

2618
02:24:28,500 --> 02:24:29,500
mistake. 
Yeah. 

2619
02:24:29,900 --> 02:24:31,600
These mistake. 
Yeah. 

2620
02:24:31,600 --> 02:24:36,300
So then February 10th, 2005. 
The evening standard announced 

2621
02:24:36,300 --> 02:24:38,400
Charles and Camilla has 
engagement. 

2622
02:24:38,700 --> 02:24:41,100
Because I remember in London, 
they used to hand out the 

2623
02:24:41,400 --> 02:24:44,000
standard and the evening 
standard on the street. 

2624
02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:46,200
They were like these free 
newspapers was so cool. 

2625
02:24:46,700 --> 02:24:48,900
They have are just walking on 
the street and I just would hand

2626
02:24:48,900 --> 02:24:52,700
his newspaper and you read it. 
So it's cool to imagine you're 

2627
02:24:52,700 --> 02:24:56,400
just in London and then you get 
handed this A paper and says 

2628
02:24:56,400 --> 02:24:58,600
they're engaged and what was the
2005? 

2629
02:24:58,600 --> 02:24:59,900
You 2005? 
Wow. 

2630
02:24:59,900 --> 02:25:04,400
I can't believe it's taken that.
I know it's supposed to be 

2631
02:25:04,400 --> 02:25:08,100
announced on Valentine's Day, 
but apparently it was the actor 

2632
02:25:08,100 --> 02:25:11,000
something. 
Yeah, I guess Camilla would have

2633
02:25:11,000 --> 02:25:13,000
the right to be called Princess 
of Wales. 

2634
02:25:13,000 --> 02:25:17,400
But out of respect for Diana she
and Charles agreed to, instead 

2635
02:25:17,400 --> 02:25:20,900
be known as Duchess of Cornwall.
And that is what she's known as 

2636
02:25:20,900 --> 02:25:25,200
today and when he became 
quicking she would be This 

2637
02:25:25,200 --> 02:25:27,700
concert titled never used 
before. 

2638
02:25:27,900 --> 02:25:33,000
Hmm, but very recently, I guess 
the queen decided should be 

2639
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:35,000
Queen console. 
Yeah, it seems like camel has 

2640
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:38,800
really grown on the family. 
She has something she has so 

2641
02:25:39,200 --> 02:25:41,400
they had their wedding plan. 
But apparently Pope, John Paul, 

2642
02:25:41,400 --> 02:25:45,900
the second died. 
I remember them April 2nd and 

2643
02:25:46,300 --> 02:25:49,400
the funeral meant. 
He had to postpone meant Charles

2644
02:25:49,400 --> 02:25:52,500
had to postpone the wedding and 
I don't really know why I like 

2645
02:25:52,500 --> 02:25:54,600
he had to a funeral. 
I do. 

2646
02:25:54,800 --> 02:25:56,800
Not quite get it, but that's 
okay. 

2647
02:25:56,800 --> 02:25:58,800
I guess it's just like a big 
public figure. 

2648
02:25:58,800 --> 02:26:01,900
Yeah, that's really. 
He's a prince Pope. 

2649
02:26:01,900 --> 02:26:05,300
Yeah, probably knew each other 
and yeah, I can now. 

2650
02:26:05,900 --> 02:26:09,800
So they finally got married or 
is Camilla said, just two old 

2651
02:26:09,800 --> 02:26:13,200
people getting hitched. 
It's a small ceremony in front 

2652
02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:17,600
of Twenty Eight family members 
in an unpretentious Ask got room

2653
02:26:17,700 --> 02:26:21,000
at guildhall which I did Google 
what that was and it's like a 

2654
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:24,300
town hall in Windsor basically. 
So they didn't have like a big. 

2655
02:26:24,300 --> 02:26:26,500
Yeah. 
When did the queen go? 

2656
02:26:26,500 --> 02:26:28,600
The queen did go. 
Yeah did William and Harry. 

2657
02:26:28,600 --> 02:26:32,400
Yeah, there were there may be 
upset because it's like watching

2658
02:26:32,400 --> 02:26:36,600
some footage of it like when 
they walked out on YouTube and 

2659
02:26:36,600 --> 02:26:39,100
everybody in the comments was 
like oh this wedding is 

2660
02:26:39,108 --> 02:26:41,400
horrible. 
Like compare it disappointing 

2661
02:26:41,400 --> 02:26:44,200
that to Diana. 
It's like there's only 200 

2662
02:26:44,200 --> 02:26:45,900
people there. 
No one cares. 

2663
02:26:46,100 --> 02:26:48,400
Yeah. 
It doesn't honor respect though.

2664
02:26:48,500 --> 02:26:50,800
Yeah. 
Like don't they just laughable? 

2665
02:26:50,800 --> 02:26:53,700
If they had a huge lavish 
wedding and they're like late 

2666
02:26:53,700 --> 02:26:56,900
50s and it's a A second 
marriage, even regular people 

2667
02:26:56,900 --> 02:26:58,500
usually don't do that. 
Yay. 

2668
02:26:58,500 --> 02:27:02,100
Now, your second marriage is 
usually a little quieter Loki. 

2669
02:27:02,300 --> 02:27:06,100
Yeah, so I, it was bugging me. 
That everyone was like saying, 

2670
02:27:06,200 --> 02:27:09,400
said something about Camilla 
that. 

2671
02:27:09,900 --> 02:27:11,800
Oh, cuz she also wasn't wearing 
a tiara. 

2672
02:27:11,800 --> 02:27:14,000
She had like this weird hat 
thing. 

2673
02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:16,400
But, you know, if it did have a 
big wedding. 

2674
02:27:16,400 --> 02:27:18,600
Yeah, it would have gotten way 
more. 

2675
02:27:18,800 --> 02:27:22,500
Yeah, they feel like this taste.
Yeah. 

2676
02:27:22,700 --> 02:27:28,400
Nobody wants to see this. 
So there's a lose-lose situation

2677
02:27:28,400 --> 02:27:31,000
but I think they had a great 
wedding great day. 

2678
02:27:31,000 --> 02:27:34,200
I think they're just happy, they
left arm and arm. 

2679
02:27:34,200 --> 02:27:36,300
Camilla gave her first Royal 
wave. 

2680
02:27:36,300 --> 02:27:39,800
Then they took a limousine to 
Windsor Castle and they'd had a 

2681
02:27:39,800 --> 02:27:43,400
chapel service with 800 guests. 
So that was pretty big. 

2682
02:27:44,700 --> 02:27:48,800
Yeah, 800. 
I feel like for us all a lot. 

2683
02:27:48,800 --> 02:27:50,900
You have like 150. 
It's like, oh, that's a big 

2684
02:27:50,900 --> 02:27:52,100
wedding. 
Yeah, I'm doing. 

2685
02:27:52,600 --> 02:27:55,000
They didn't end up. 
You're having like the Church 

2686
02:27:55,000 --> 02:27:59,700
wedding is like a town hall. 
Then a chapel thing the battle 

2687
02:27:59,700 --> 02:28:01,800
Smith book said following his 
divorce. 

2688
02:28:02,100 --> 02:28:05,500
And perhaps does he perhaps 
deserved credit for resisting? 

2689
02:28:05,500 --> 02:28:09,600
The tendency of so many men of 
his generation to date a much 

2690
02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:11,700
younger woman. 
Instead, he stood by the woman 

2691
02:28:11,700 --> 02:28:14,400
who had captured his heart as 
young man, whom he adored 

2692
02:28:14,500 --> 02:28:17,100
wrinkles in all for what she was
inside. 

2693
02:28:17,600 --> 02:28:22,400
I think that sums it up me, too.
I mean, it's hard to hate them 

2694
02:28:22,400 --> 02:28:24,600
when they really just love each 
other. 

2695
02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:30,000
Day one, and still. 
Apparently, the queen said at 

2696
02:28:30,000 --> 02:28:32,600
the wedding, I'm very proud and 
wish them. 

2697
02:28:32,600 --> 02:28:35,300
Well, my son is home and dry 
with the woman. 

2698
02:28:35,300 --> 02:28:38,900
He loves is very sweet. 
That's sweet that she finally 

2699
02:28:38,900 --> 02:28:42,300
accept. 
I know if they didn't just say 

2700
02:28:42,300 --> 02:28:45,200
that she had to be a virgin, I 
was really go. 

2701
02:28:45,200 --> 02:28:49,200
I know if we receive them so 
much embarrassment. 

2702
02:28:49,200 --> 02:28:53,600
Yeah, I know. 
So yeah, any in 2007, the queen 

2703
02:28:53,600 --> 02:28:56,600
gave Camilla her. 
Special hand-painted, brooch of 

2704
02:28:56,600 --> 02:29:01,200
The Sovereign. 
Oh, that's a gesture. 

2705
02:29:01,200 --> 02:29:03,100
It seems like she has accepted 
her. 

2706
02:29:03,300 --> 02:29:09,300
I'm just random note that 
Charles because he, I mean, I 

2707
02:29:09,308 --> 02:29:12,000
think it's cool, he's been 
called kind of like an activist 

2708
02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:13,500
King. 
He just gets. 

2709
02:29:13,500 --> 02:29:18,100
So he starts all these Charities
and events and things, and I 

2710
02:29:18,100 --> 02:29:22,100
just think it's funny. 
He literally launched a trust 

2711
02:29:22,100 --> 02:29:24,600
for the endangered red squirrel 
in 2009. 

2712
02:29:24,700 --> 02:29:28,900
Oh, oh, that's really sweet. 
That just shows you the kind of 

2713
02:29:28,900 --> 02:29:32,300
guy he is, um, and he has 
reached the uncomfortable 

2714
02:29:32,300 --> 02:29:35,200
Milestone of the longest. 
Wait to take the throne. 

2715
02:29:35,200 --> 02:29:39,200
Yeah, seriously. 
Yeah, it's crazy. 

2716
02:29:39,300 --> 02:29:42,400
He might never know. 
It makes me sad. 

2717
02:29:42,400 --> 02:29:46,200
I mean I don't American 
obviously of no stadiums like I 

2718
02:29:46,208 --> 02:29:47,600
can't say that I have a very 
short. 

2719
02:29:47,600 --> 02:29:51,100
Yeah. 
But I do want him to be get get 

2720
02:29:51,100 --> 02:29:53,000
to be king. 
I just I feel like he's been 

2721
02:29:53,000 --> 02:29:55,900
preparing for so long and It's 
frustrating. 

2722
02:29:56,000 --> 02:29:59,800
Probably within the next five 
years, you know, Brad, yeah. 

2723
02:29:59,900 --> 02:30:03,600
Wow, I'll be excited cuz I'm 
invested now, I know, but I'm 

2724
02:30:03,600 --> 02:30:10,700
into it now without to Die. 
The queen respected Camilla's 

2725
02:30:10,700 --> 02:30:15,000
willingness in middle age to 
take on busy royal schedule, 

2726
02:30:16,300 --> 02:30:19,000
despite Camilla's reputation 
apparently for being 

2727
02:30:19,000 --> 02:30:21,300
monumentally lazy in the nicest 
way. 

2728
02:30:21,300 --> 02:30:24,600
Possible. 
According to mark, bolland, 

2729
02:30:24,800 --> 02:30:27,300
Yeah. 
Operation PB guy and she had her

2730
02:30:27,300 --> 02:30:32,000
first on record interview in 
2013 and she said the thing I 

2731
02:30:32,008 --> 02:30:34,800
don't know if that's even true, 
but she's them. 

2732
02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:38,100
The thing is, he's moving, 
Charles not going to stop at 

2733
02:30:38,100 --> 02:30:40,200
this age. 
He never ever stops working. 

2734
02:30:40,200 --> 02:30:42,100
He's exhausting. 
I'm hopping up and down and 

2735
02:30:42,100 --> 02:30:43,900
saying, darling. 
Do you think we could have a bit

2736
02:30:43,900 --> 02:30:46,100
of, you know, peace and quiet 
and enjoy yourselves? 

2737
02:30:46,100 --> 02:30:47,400
Be always, have to finish 
something. 

2738
02:30:47,400 --> 02:30:49,500
He's so in the zone. 
Hmm. 

2739
02:30:50,100 --> 02:30:55,900
And today, so in 2015, only 35, 
Five percent of public. 

2740
02:30:55,900 --> 02:30:59,000
The public approved of canola, 
becoming Queen. 

2741
02:30:59,000 --> 02:31:03,000
Yeah, but today, apparently 73%.
Yeah, who cares. 

2742
02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:07,800
Yes honestly, yeah. 
And now, yeah, as I said, as we 

2743
02:31:07,800 --> 02:31:10,900
said the queen now said, she'll 
be Queen consort when Charles, 

2744
02:31:10,900 --> 02:31:15,200
becoming and Charles and Camilla
are still together to this day. 

2745
02:31:15,500 --> 02:31:20,100
Literally 50, exactly your since
they first met. 

2746
02:31:20,200 --> 02:31:23,800
Wow. 
I mean, that's impressive and 

2747
02:31:23,800 --> 02:31:28,300
the end, Well, I have, I realize
you never gave us the three 

2748
02:31:28,300 --> 02:31:32,400
words. 
Just we forget about that, I 

2749
02:31:32,400 --> 02:31:36,000
know. 
So in love. 

2750
02:31:37,800 --> 02:31:44,300
So in we have to remember to do 
that, I know I know that's this 

2751
02:31:44,300 --> 02:31:46,800
is the first couple we've done. 
That is still together. 

2752
02:31:46,800 --> 02:31:48,900
That's so true. 
So I guess. 

2753
02:31:48,900 --> 02:31:50,600
Yeah. 
With our percentage for if we 

2754
02:31:50,600 --> 02:31:53,300
think they're going to stay 
together, I think is 100% 102. 

2755
02:31:53,300 --> 02:31:56,500
We're going to get divorced, 
even if their marriage became 

2756
02:31:56,900 --> 02:32:00,000
irretrievably broken down, as 
Charles said they did. 

2757
02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:03,300
So you wouldn't believe that 
after all that, I couldn't go 

2758
02:32:03,300 --> 02:32:06,900
through that. 
I know they like then after all 

2759
02:32:06,900 --> 02:32:09,400
of that they can't be together. 
I don't think so. 

2760
02:32:09,600 --> 02:32:12,200
They still seem really cute. 
I have like some video clips. 

2761
02:32:12,300 --> 02:32:14,500
I don't know if I'll post them 
on her Instagram or something. 

2762
02:32:14,700 --> 02:32:18,000
By the way, where significant 
lovers on Instagram. 

2763
02:32:18,100 --> 02:32:21,300
I don't boss yet. 
We post very cute black and 

2764
02:32:21,300 --> 02:32:25,200
white pictures of everybody and 
videos and stuff. 

2765
02:32:25,200 --> 02:32:28,400
But there's just something comes
of them like recently you know 

2766
02:32:28,400 --> 02:32:31,300
they're in their 70s and they're
still so cute. 

2767
02:32:31,300 --> 02:32:34,200
Like there's one of them, they 
went to Canada. 

2768
02:32:34,700 --> 02:32:37,700
And there were these throat, 
singers performing for them and 

2769
02:32:37,700 --> 02:32:40,200
they just start like giggling 
and it seems like they can't 

2770
02:32:40,200 --> 02:32:42,000
stop. 
And they're trying to stop, 

2771
02:32:42,600 --> 02:32:46,700
there is one of them. 
I think they're in Ireland. 

2772
02:32:46,700 --> 02:32:48,800
And they go to a pub or 
something. 

2773
02:32:48,800 --> 02:32:50,700
It's like some big official 
event, like, people are taking 

2774
02:32:50,700 --> 02:32:54,200
pictures and they have a pint of
Guinness, which apparently 

2775
02:32:54,200 --> 02:32:58,000
Charles doesn't like beer, but 
they have Guinness, and he takes

2776
02:32:58,000 --> 02:33:01,700
a drink, and then there's foam 
on his nose and she like points 

2777
02:33:01,700 --> 02:33:04,800
out to him and they're laughing.
And like I know they see, Cute. 

2778
02:33:04,800 --> 02:33:06,400
That's what they can laugh 
together. 

2779
02:33:06,400 --> 02:33:09,700
That really, that is a secret to
a good relationship. 

2780
02:33:09,700 --> 02:33:11,500
Hmm. 
Yep. 

2781
02:33:11,500 --> 02:33:15,800
Being playful laughter. 
They went to the. 

2782
02:33:16,600 --> 02:33:18,300
I just don't know. 
I was watching all these clips. 

2783
02:33:18,300 --> 02:33:23,000
They went to the premiere of no 
time to die that James Bond. 

2784
02:33:23,000 --> 02:33:25,600
Yeah it was like think I loves 
you guys. 

2785
02:33:25,600 --> 02:33:28,900
Yeah, and it was so weird for me
to see Charles and Camilla 

2786
02:33:28,900 --> 02:33:33,900
talking to Billy Island. 
Wait one like mmmm. 

2787
02:33:34,300 --> 02:33:37,500
That's so funny likewise, like, 
it's ugly. 

2788
02:33:37,500 --> 02:33:38,600
I was yeah. 
What? 

2789
02:33:38,600 --> 02:33:40,700
Wow? 
Like, just two very different 

2790
02:33:40,700 --> 02:33:43,500
world, I know. 
Yeah, I think they seem cute 

2791
02:33:43,500 --> 02:33:50,000
together and there's still I 
should I should pay do sue me. 

2792
02:33:50,000 --> 02:33:52,100
I ship it. 
I think they were meant to be 

2793
02:33:52,100 --> 02:33:56,500
together, and I think that does 
not take away from the fact that

2794
02:33:56,500 --> 02:33:59,500
Diana was a wonderful woman and 
was treated. 

2795
02:33:59,500 --> 02:34:04,200
Unfairly. 
Yeah, and deserved better, but 

2796
02:34:04,400 --> 02:34:11,200
Charles he was never gonna be 
the husband that Diana deserved.

2797
02:34:11,700 --> 02:34:13,600
I'm like, really obsessed with 
them now. 

2798
02:34:13,600 --> 02:34:15,400
No i-i'll. 
Uh, guys. 

2799
02:34:15,400 --> 02:34:19,500
Maybe I want to meet them. 
I wanted to spy on. 

2800
02:34:19,500 --> 02:34:22,800
Do you think they're in their 
own names on Spotify? 

2801
02:34:22,800 --> 02:34:25,900
I mean, it kind of obsessed with
image and when people yeah, you 

2802
02:34:25,900 --> 02:34:31,600
know operation PB it worked on 
us, we will help you out. 

2803
02:34:31,800 --> 02:34:34,300
Yeah honestly. 
What if we like literally I 

2804
02:34:34,308 --> 02:34:37,100
think the narrative right now, 
it doesn't podcasts. 

2805
02:34:37,100 --> 02:34:39,800
All right? 
We could seriously, could we 

2806
02:34:39,800 --> 02:34:42,600
could and like suddenly people 
start shipping them and yeah. 

2807
02:34:42,800 --> 02:34:46,100
After all this time, people 
didn't know, they're lovable 

2808
02:34:46,100 --> 02:34:49,500
couple, they are. 
Yeah, it's kind of weird that 

2809
02:34:49,500 --> 02:34:52,100
like no one's taking that angle.
I'm sure some people have. 

2810
02:34:52,100 --> 02:34:54,800
But a couple of people on 
YouTube comments that are like, 

2811
02:34:54,800 --> 02:34:56,900
I've grown fond of Charles and 
Camilla. 

2812
02:34:56,900 --> 02:35:00,300
Yeah thumbs up. 
Let's popularize it. 

2813
02:35:00,300 --> 02:35:06,800
Yeah guys, 50 years of love I 
mean, and Counting a lot of 

2814
02:35:06,800 --> 02:35:09,300
people can't do that. 
But I do Wonder, like what their

2815
02:35:09,300 --> 02:35:11,700
relationship have been the same 
if they didn't have the same 

2816
02:35:11,700 --> 02:35:14,300
trials and tribulations that 
they needed in order to get to 

2817
02:35:14,308 --> 02:35:18,500
that point like that did that 
help them kind of you can never 

2818
02:35:18,500 --> 02:35:23,700
know the answer, those kind of 
questions, but maybe I don't 

2819
02:35:23,700 --> 02:35:25,900
know. 
Like, maybe they became the 

2820
02:35:25,900 --> 02:35:27,200
people. 
They are now because of 

2821
02:35:27,200 --> 02:35:29,200
everything they want their. 
Yeah, exactly. 

2822
02:35:29,200 --> 02:35:32,600
It's like, I don't know, Charles
is very uncertain about things 

2823
02:35:32,600 --> 02:35:37,300
and stuff and he only did things
Things, this mom said to lot of 

2824
02:35:37,308 --> 02:35:39,500
people had to, but if you 
remember, like the whole the 

2825
02:35:39,500 --> 02:35:42,500
wedding thing when she got 
pushed the back, he was finally 

2826
02:35:42,500 --> 02:35:46,000
ready to make a decision himself
and be like, okay, like yeah, 

2827
02:35:46,500 --> 02:35:47,500
this is not gonna happen 
anymore. 

2828
02:35:47,500 --> 02:35:50,200
Like, I need to marry her, you 
know, proud of him. 

2829
02:35:50,400 --> 02:35:53,100
I really, this is kind of why I 
don't believe that like, the 

2830
02:35:53,100 --> 02:35:59,200
royal family was like, really 
like had - like intentions 

2831
02:35:59,200 --> 02:36:01,500
against Diana, like, towards the
end or anything like that. 

2832
02:36:01,500 --> 02:36:04,200
Because like just the way that 
like the queen does show, 

2833
02:36:04,400 --> 02:36:08,100
Maturity, to be able to like 
change her opinion on Camila, 

2834
02:36:08,100 --> 02:36:10,600
after all that time, like, she 
hated Camilla. 

2835
02:36:10,700 --> 02:36:12,800
But I don't even know if she did
hate Camilla. 

2836
02:36:12,800 --> 02:36:19,700
I think she just really wants to
keep the monarchy intact. 

2837
02:36:19,700 --> 02:36:22,500
He feels like cautious. 
It's a literally 

2838
02:36:22,500 --> 02:36:25,600
thousand-year-old and isn't a 
thousand years. 

2839
02:36:25,600 --> 02:36:28,500
Like, you don't want to be 
responsible for ending it. 

2840
02:36:28,800 --> 02:36:34,100
I think she felt like she can't 
be associating with somebody. 

2841
02:36:34,300 --> 02:36:38,500
See that the public doesn't like
or that you know, doesn't want 

2842
02:36:38,500 --> 02:36:41,900
the royal family to seem like 
they're immoral or something. 

2843
02:36:41,900 --> 02:36:43,600
So huge pressure. 
Yeah. 

2844
02:36:43,600 --> 02:36:47,200
Well, they don't think the queen
like literally hated her or 

2845
02:36:47,200 --> 02:36:50,900
meant anything by it. 
She just felt like it wasn't 

2846
02:36:50,900 --> 02:36:55,000
okay to be in the same room was,
that's understand only when it 

2847
02:36:55,000 --> 02:36:58,000
sounds really harsh. 
But I don't think she's like an 

2848
02:36:58,000 --> 02:37:02,000
evil person or I wonder if the 
Monarch ever will collapse. 

2849
02:37:02,300 --> 02:37:05,500
Probably who's it? 
Going to be It's kind of like 

2850
02:37:05,500 --> 02:37:11,700
you don't wanna be the one left.
Look, my friend writer, he was 

2851
02:37:11,700 --> 02:37:16,000
in a I probably was it was it 
was in a fraternity in college 

2852
02:37:16,000 --> 02:37:18,600
that was like not super popular 
and it started dwindling 

2853
02:37:18,600 --> 02:37:23,200
dwindling and when the 
fraternity finally collapse it 

2854
02:37:23,200 --> 02:37:24,900
was like him and one other 
person. 

2855
02:37:24,900 --> 02:37:31,500
I'm sorry I've been all these 
alumni were like Let It Die that

2856
02:37:31,500 --> 02:37:35,100
isn't sending. 
Yeah, I do You think I don't 

2857
02:37:35,100 --> 02:37:37,600
know if you ask me to pass, you 
probably would have said like oh

2858
02:37:37,600 --> 02:37:39,600
it shouldn't exist but I 
shouldn't get into this. 

2859
02:37:39,800 --> 02:37:42,900
I have I have nothing to do with
this but I do think it is kind 

2860
02:37:42,900 --> 02:37:46,400
of cool to have this tradition 
and I do think maybe you could 

2861
02:37:46,400 --> 02:37:50,400
spend less money on them but 
like just this lineage they 

2862
02:37:50,400 --> 02:37:54,100
don't get involved in things. 
It's like a stability, you know.

2863
02:37:54,200 --> 02:37:56,300
No, I like it. 
I don't think they should get 

2864
02:37:56,300 --> 02:37:59,900
rid of fit but that's just me. 
You don't need as many members. 

2865
02:38:01,500 --> 02:38:04,100
I don't think that like Andrew 
prince, Andrew. 

2866
02:38:04,400 --> 02:38:08,300
I think you should just not even
be like I'd be pissed if my tax 

2867
02:38:08,300 --> 02:38:10,800
money was going to him is it 
still? 

2868
02:38:10,800 --> 02:38:13,900
I don't still feeling on it. 
I want to say that guy's I don't

2869
02:38:13,900 --> 02:38:15,700
really know but I feel we could 
Google. 

2870
02:38:16,000 --> 02:38:18,500
I thought that they had cut him 
off. 

2871
02:38:18,600 --> 02:38:22,600
I think they'd at least revoked 
something stuff. 

2872
02:38:22,600 --> 02:38:24,800
Yeah, Bobby pissed. 
I bet you something his 

2873
02:38:24,800 --> 02:38:27,700
daughters like I know Beatrice 
and whatever. 

2874
02:38:27,700 --> 02:38:29,700
Yes. 
Do they really need to be? 

2875
02:38:30,100 --> 02:38:32,600
I know benefiting from the 
monarchy anymore. 

2876
02:38:32,600 --> 02:38:35,800
I'm sure they'd be influencers. 
I'm sure they would get money 

2877
02:38:35,800 --> 02:38:37,000
somehow. 
Anyway. 

2878
02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:38,100
Yeah. 
Just the know. 

2879
02:38:38,100 --> 02:38:40,600
Just the association with it. 
Yeah, they would have 

2880
02:38:40,600 --> 02:38:43,300
connections. 
I could hook them up with a job.

2881
02:38:43,400 --> 02:38:46,500
Yeah, I'm sure they still get 
like an inheritance or whatever.

2882
02:38:46,500 --> 02:38:50,600
Hmm, I don't know, but Kelly, 
great job with that episode. 

2883
02:38:50,700 --> 02:38:53,500
That was really good, very 
entertaining, a long. 

2884
02:38:53,900 --> 02:38:55,000
How long is it? 
Let me guess. 

2885
02:38:55,000 --> 02:38:55,700
Right? 
What? 

2886
02:38:56,300 --> 02:39:03,100
Two hours and 17 minutes longer 
to 49? 

2887
02:39:03,300 --> 02:39:06,500
Wow, I guess you're to end it 
there. 

2888
02:39:07,300 --> 02:39:12,200
But guys, we if you want to 
contact us here at significant 

2889
02:39:12,200 --> 02:39:16,200
lovers at gmail.com, I realized 
recently we never say like how 

2890
02:39:16,200 --> 02:39:18,700
to contact us? 
Yes, Instagram, significant 

2891
02:39:18,700 --> 02:39:21,000
lovers. 
Yeah, and you know, I thought 

2892
02:39:21,000 --> 02:39:24,400
would be fun even though like we
keep our episodes, a secret 

2893
02:39:24,400 --> 02:39:27,300
until it comes out. 
Yeah, cuz any couples you really

2894
02:39:27,300 --> 02:39:29,700
want us to cover, it would be 
fun if you have a sentence like 

2895
02:39:29,700 --> 02:39:32,800
voice recordings and then maybe 
when we do cover, it will play 

2896
02:39:32,800 --> 02:39:33,900
that. 
That's not true. 

2897
02:39:34,200 --> 02:39:36,200
He's a cool. 
You want guys? 

2898
02:39:36,400 --> 02:39:41,600
Yeah, it's a doozy. 
This is really fun. 

2899
02:39:41,600 --> 02:39:44,400
Yeah, and if you're if you like 
listening to the podcast, we 

2900
02:39:44,400 --> 02:39:47,700
have bonus episodes on our 
patrons. 

2901
02:39:47,700 --> 02:39:53,200
And so far we've covered Dave 
Coulier and Alanis Morissette. 

2902
02:39:53,300 --> 02:40:00,900
Gigi Hadid, I'm not about to 
just go on about different Bond 

2903
02:40:00,900 --> 02:40:04,100
model, querida, love bean and 
Ashley buns. 

2904
02:40:05,000 --> 02:40:08,800
And I should do digihoney. 
I know God, I'm over here. 

2905
02:40:10,200 --> 02:40:14,300
Some people and I John Mulaney 
and anna-marie tendler and all 

2906
02:40:14,300 --> 02:40:16,800
that drama. 
So another love triangle. 

2907
02:40:16,800 --> 02:40:20,700
Yep, to have another bonus 
episode next week and God give 

2908
02:40:20,700 --> 02:40:27,400
us a teaser about that. 
So this week was a 50-year 

2909
02:40:27,400 --> 02:40:36,800
romance next week, is a much 
shorter, fling Between a two, 

2910
02:40:36,800 --> 02:40:43,400
very popular music, stars are 
in, be rapper and constant R, 

2911
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and they're kind of, did they 
date type of problem? 

2912
02:40:49,000 --> 02:40:50,600
I will see. 
I always worried. 

2913
02:40:50,600 --> 02:40:53,100
These are two obvious. 
I know, but I feel like know 

2914
02:40:53,100 --> 02:40:54,500
people are like, I don't know 
what it is. 

2915
02:40:55,700 --> 02:40:58,900
People have contacted me. 
So yeah, wow. 

2916
02:40:58,900 --> 02:41:00,400
Do you think that sounds too 
awful? 

2917
02:41:00,400 --> 02:41:05,700
Because I know who, yes, but I'm
Little, thank you guys so much 

2918
02:41:05,700 --> 02:41:08,100
for listening. 
We love you. 

2919
02:41:08,100 --> 02:41:10,300
Love you. 
We hope you have a great rest of

2920
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your day. 
Your home.