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Are You Lonesome Tonight? 
Do you miss me tonight? 

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Are you sorry? 
We drifted does your mail come 

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back. 
Welcome guys this is significant

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lovers. 
We are your hosts Mel and Kel 

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and For joining us for episode 
3, we're cousins, but we're 

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cousins, like, people should 
know that. 

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Yep, originally from 
Massachusetts, yet now, we live 

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in New York City. 
Yep. 

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That is true. 
We used to have a podcast called

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another, by the Twilight. 
It was watched by light. 

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Yeah, obviously. 
And but if you don't, if you 

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don't like to, I don't think 
that will affect your enjoyment 

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of this new show. 
Which is totally different and 

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it's about couples. 
As you might be able to guess 

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relationships, love, heartbreak,
cheating divorce, Seth 

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sometimes, sadly. 
Yeah, and yeah, we've always 

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really been huge, hopeless 
Romantics, which is why we 

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started this podcast and also 
just fascinated by other 

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people's love lives. 
So, I've been saying it's like a

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true crime podcast. 
But true love is trying to like 

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finish here. 
I love that. 

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Yeah, true love true. 
Love podcasts. 

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So today I guess we're going to 
Goering into it. 

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Got so he's a big one. 
It's a big so we can't waste any

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time. 
I might be long. 

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But today we're not swimming. 
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Only have an hour. 
Yeah, maybe it won't be that 

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long. 
Um, I'm Kelli, I'm Kelly and I'm

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hosting today, I guess you could
say so males in the audience, 

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and it's my turn. 
I'm kind of nervous, so don't 

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hurt me. 
But today, we are doing John 

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Lennon and Yoko Ono. 
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What three words would you use 
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I think last time when you asked
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Yeah, I said intense. 
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I'm gonna stick by that say, 
intense, creative and hippie. 

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Mmm, I probably would have said,
it's just crazy how hippie they 

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could be, though. 
I don't know. 

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There's so many more words I 
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But yeah, I am a huge Beatles 
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I'm kind of nervous. 
It's because what if people 

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listening, you know, there's a 
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What if there's some baby 
boomers listening, who know way 

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more than me, you know, and I 
forget things. 

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Um, but there's so much to say 
about John and Yoko that this 

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could be like ten hours long 
problem. 

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Yeah. 
So just gotta, you know, I feel 

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like someone could have their 
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that. 
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There's a lot to say, so bearing
with me. 

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But yeah, I'm a huge Beatles 
fan. 

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It's Mel knows. 
Li like my second Obsession 

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after Twilight. 
Wow, say yeah, but you're not as

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big of a John fan individually. 
I, I feel bad saying that 

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because spoiler, he was 
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Yeah, imagining it but he's not.
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He's not my favorite. 
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my favorite Beatles couple, but 
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Yeah, it just chose me. 
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like a half a day. 
Do this, maybe someday. 

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We'll do the other ones but 
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Yeah do you I was wondering 
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Beatles fan. 
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you said Golden Slumbers was 
your favorite song. 

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Is that still true? 
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Mmm, I don't know what would you
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Tough question. 
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I think I would say my favorite 
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And I know that's so basic but 
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So beautiful and when you're in 
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it's, you know, it's like the 
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Yeah, let it be. 
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And accept reality. 
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to like, get in the mood. 
That's really emotional. 

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Yeah. 
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And that song I just think it's 
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the secret to peace. 
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I think so. 
Beatles songs should be someone 

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at church. 
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Fortunately that's Paul's long. 
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actually saw on a trash can on 
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The word. 
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I thought so yeah. 
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cover him and said, I'm letting 
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Oh my God, I miss you, I'm with 
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And you along the whole way. 
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I don't know if he would have 
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So you can there's numerous 
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know, look over at this point. 
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scared to meet John Lennon in 
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Yes, he's intimidating to me. 
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Now my perception of them in 
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hippie. 
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up, but I always wondered if 
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facade. 
Like, obviously, they're super 

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rich. 
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So it's like, how and I guess 
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kind of, the counterculture 
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who actually had wealth and 
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thought a little bit bit. 
Might be a facade. 

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Yeah, I mean, you're not the 
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That and we'll get to it but 
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them doing a bed-in for peace 
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I really do anything. 
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Like Is that them just being 
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Did they donate a lot to 
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Um I know that I didn't really 
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I'm sure they did but I don't 
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like during the time John was 
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I'm sure they did. 
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lot. 
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Anyway, I guess we should get in
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I want to learn everything. 
I really don't know much about 

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them though, besides their 
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So there's a lot. 
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by some things. 
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Yeah I really didn't know a lot 
my sources. 

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I used a couple books for this, 
The Beatles, just to prove that 

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like I'm not making this up 
beetles by Stephen Turner The 

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Beatles get back by The Beatles.
That's the movie but they also 

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have like my mom got me a book 
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Oh wow, cool. 
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They all the same title he feels
by Hunter Davies. 

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That's like the best Beatles. 
Look really wants to learn stuff

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about them and then the last 
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Patterson and which Caitlin my 
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Christmas, oh, that's so sweet. 
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That's so sweet. 
I think she even Charlie crazy. 

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I know. 
Okay, so wait, don't look a 

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little bit about their 
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with you ago, Yoko, Ono. 
Just born February 18th 1933 in 

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Tokyo. 
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and a former classical pianist, 
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Musical and her grandfather was 
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a Japanese Samurai can group. 
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means, but something important. 
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work actually and she didn't 
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She had younger brother and she 
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Tokyo. 
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So I think she was kind of rich 
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fight Fire bombings in Japan. 
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and her family had to carry all 
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wheelbarrow. 
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Camp beside gone. 
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But I think he got out of it and
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Scarsdale New York, but she 
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went to Sarah Lawrence College 
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old. 
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New York by her. 
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Yeah. 
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Well, she a grown. 
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How long she stayed in Japan? 
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York when she was 19. 
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ago. 
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But I guess she was like at a 
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So, but anyway, so yeah, she 
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that would have been four years 
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She married a Japanese composer 
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Ichiyama Toshi ichiyanagi! 
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I had I've no idea she was even 
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I know, I didn't know either 
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So she's married to this guy and
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she studied poetry English 
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she wrote songs. 
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lived in Manhattan just started 
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hosting events in the 
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Art was like letting people walk
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and like lighting it on fire. 
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performance art. 
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experimental stuff, but then in 
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divorced, I feel living apart 
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from depression, and then she 
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institution. 
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neither. 
I don't know any of this stuff. 

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I guess you came back. 
Back and then she married 

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Anthony coxe again. 
Yeah, American jazz musician. 

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He did and in 1963, she gave 
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kyoko-chan because I had no 
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She's even had another child. 
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Either, is that daughter still 
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Kind of. 
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So John Lennon was a stepfather.
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know me neither. 
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Anthony's relationships are to 
fall apart, but they stayed 

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together. 
Hope Brand New York, but they 

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stayed together and you'll go 
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Anthony. 
So she could pursue art, okay? 

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So that's probably why we don't 
really know much about her 

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daughter. 
Crazy. 

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So, that's where I leave off of 
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John Lennon. 
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brought up in an orphanage. 
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Julia. 
She wasn't an organ. 

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She's so they're in Liverpool is
people probably know Fred was 

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working on ships as a waiter and
he would go off for like months 

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at a time and no one knew where 
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Oh, I'm sure that has Like some 
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John I would say. 
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during a heavy air raid in 1940 
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Lennon, Winston being Winston, 
Churchill and apparently Fred, 

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his dad was locked up in the 
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Oh my, some reason, and I don't 
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send letters of Julia, but no 
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He did come back to Liverpool 
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for a bit and then he went to 
New Zealand and he kind of 

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deserted them. 
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Yeah. 
So John didn't grow up with his 

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Dad and then his mom Julia. 
Which The Beatles have a song 

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called Julia about her. 
She got remarried. 

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And she wasn't really like I 
think she was young and wasn't 

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really able to raise John like, 
I don't really know what the 

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deal was, but he ended up living
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Mimi and Mimi, basically raised 
him. 

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Okay. 
And for a long time, John didn't

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Even know that his mom was like 
five miles away. 

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He thought his mom was like 
really far away. 

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Oh my God. 
That's really sad. 

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You know, it is sad so he could 
have just seen his mom like 

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regularly, mmm. 
Wow. 

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Yeah. 
So, his Aunt Mimi was like 

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basically his mom and she was 
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seems like to care about raising
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So that's his mom's sister, I 
think so. 

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Yeah, mm-hmm. 
Like people didn't approve of 

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his dad, I don't know. 
I feel like he's kind of a bad 

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situation in a way, but as a 
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already met Paul and George and 
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Moves your music. 
But then he like reconnected 

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with his mom and they would like
hang out all the time. 

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And apparently, she acted like a
teenager kind of. 

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Okay. 
So it was a little upsetting to 

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me me because then he like 
resented her. 

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Yeah, he's acting like the real 
parent but sadly. 

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His Is Mom, Julia was hit by a 
car and died. 

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Oh that's sad like kind of just 
as they were getting 

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reconnected. 
Mmm, that's really sad. 

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And people said that after that 
like his classmates, I don't 

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know if people know this. 
Yeah, that it made him less 

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sensitive to people's feelings 
and more cruel with his humor 

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after that. 
Okay. 

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And that's kind of the vibe I 
get from John Lennon. 

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Like, I know he cares about 
world peace, and I think he does

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have a soft side. 
It does seem like kind of me. 

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Yeah, I'm sure there's like Such
a like psychology behind that 

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like something that he learned. 
Yeah. 

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They're all that pain that like 
he has to be like insensitive to

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other people because he can't 
bear like the burden like other 

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people's suffering. 
Like I think he was a really 

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sarcastic person. 
Mmm. 

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Yeah, but it'd be like 
vulnerable. 

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Yeah, that's the vibe I get, but
correct me if I'm wrong people. 

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And as everyone probably knows, 
he's in the Beatles. 

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Mmm. 
And he married Cynthia, Powell 

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in 1962, which I didn't put 
anything about them, really? 

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That could be another episode. 
I'm gonna think it's 

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interesting, like, yeah, long 
ago. 

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So famous, and he had another 
wife, like, what, what happened,

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but not going to get into it. 
You could do you okon her. 

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There is not much known. 
Yeah, him and Cynthia had a son 

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named? 
Julian. 

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I love that name too. 
It's a good name boy and girl so

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that's where I end with his 
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would Julian he's kind of an 
absent father though, as well, 

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right. 
Yeah. 

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A little bit about. 
Okay. 

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Yup. 
But yeah, this is interesting 

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that his father was absent and 
then he was also an absent 

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father. 
This crazy how that happened? 

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Yeah. 
Like you would think that like 

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you would remember. 
Like I didn't like how it felt 

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not have my father but I don't 
know. 

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I haven't lived that experience.
So I'm sure there's a science 

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behind that too. 
I know. 

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It's like I'm looking at my 
computer screen too much. 

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No way. 
Yeah. 

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Okay. 
All right, people, so John and 

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Yoko. 
Yep, they met I have no idea. 

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They met when John miyoko, they 
met, we were gonna call her 

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podcast the night they meant, 
which is now the name. 

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Did you see? 
I made it the name of our tier 

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on patreon. 
Oh wait, I did not see that. 

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Yeah, so if you guys who grabbed
her Patron, five bucks a month, 

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you get bonus episodes. 
So every other week, you got a 

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new episode. 
So that's called the night, they

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met and damn, in which a lot of 
people didn't really like that 

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name. 
No, I'm gonna go with it. 

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I thought it was good. 
It was fine. 

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But people, with so many people 
got bogged down by the night. 

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It's not about the night that 
you cover more than the night is

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kind of after like the Lord here
on song. 

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Yeah. 
But I also did keep accidentally

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saying the night, we might also 
do whatever writing as well, 

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wasn't meant to be. 
Yeah, they met at an art show. 

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November 6, November. 1966 
apparently John read a newspaper

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article describing a black and 
white movie directed by a 

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Japanese avant-garde artist 
named Yoko Ono. 

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A member of the experimental 
Global artists Collective 

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fluxus, okay? 
The other day in Vermont, I saw 

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somebody wearing a shirt that 
said, John Lennon broke up. 

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Fluxes. 
Hmm, like how did that person? 

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Oh yeah. 
Why did they have a shirt? 

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That's such a of scared. 
The Beatles knowledge that he's 

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selling, no shirt. 
And look. 

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Why do they care to me? 
Right? 

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Oh I gotta make a point. 
Yeah I got it. 

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Yeah. 
Oh yeah I meant to say like one 

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big question. 
I think we're going to try to 

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answer today is did Yoko. 
Ono. 

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So-called break up as people 
always? 

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Yeah. 
They're trying to make a point 

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about the misogyny of that that 
she had her whole Career 

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Success. 
Yeah. 

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And then he came along and he 
broke up a no one. 

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Who cares about that? 
Because everyone thinks that his

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thing was more important. 
Yeah, that makes so much sense. 

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I mean, he was like, probably 
most famous person on the 

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planet. 
I can see why people think that,

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but she did, she didn't put her 
career on hold later on Mmm. 

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Yeah, so the Beetles are invited
to the November 8th. 

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Ah, it's my birthday opening of 
Ono's unfinished. 

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Paintings and objects. 
So but it wasn't really my 

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birthday because they showed up 
a day early My accident. 

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No, I think I'm very busy and 
she was actually mad that they 

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showed up early. 
She was saying to somebody like 

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you can't have people here 
before I'm done because I wasn't

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done setting it up. 
Yeah, I would be annoyed too. 

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Especially like the building 
apparently she had a black 

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sweater and black pants to match
her long. 

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Black hair, parted down the 
middle. 

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So yeah, she was pissed that 
they were there but then she 

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chilled out when she saw John, 
okay? 

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And she said, later about 
meeting, she said he was shaved 

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and he was wearing Uma suit up 
to then. 

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Englishmen had all kind of 
looked weedy to me, that was the

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first sexy one I met. 
Okay. 

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And John was actually seven 
years younger than her? 

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I didn't know that. 
I always thought she was younger

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than him. 
She's older. 

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She's on her second husband 
already. 

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Oh, she was still married at 
this point. 

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Yeah, yep. 
Is he okay? 

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Yeah. 
I didn't know that. 

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You know, they're both married. 
On asked what the event was. 

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She shouldn't own but yeah. 
And apparently, she handed him a

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card, and he opened it. 
And all it said, was breathe. 

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Oh, like that. 
Was a part of the event, I think

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so. 
Okay, so yeah, I can see why I 

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said there could be. 
Yeah, like that is crazy but 

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that night this isn't that 
according to the last days of 

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John Lennon. 
Yeah. 

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And he wrote it kind of like a 
novel even though it is 

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nonfiction but you wrote like he
went home to Cynthia his wife 

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but was thinking of yoga we can 
guess but It. 

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I don't know. 
So that was 1966. 

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I don't have anything about 
well. 

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They did meet again in another 
Art Gallery event, but I don't 

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know anything about 1967. 
I'm assuming they kept in touch,

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but I couldn't find anything 
about 1967. 

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I wonder if the beetles in 
regularly like attended stuff 

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like this, like, they did like, 
like, why would John be showing 

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up, not even knowing what it's 
for, I don't know. 

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Yeah, maybe it was like a 
publicity thing. 

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Or like a, I think I didn't 
write down his name but I think 

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somebody like brought them and 
then I don't know. 

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Okay. 
So they're both still married, 

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mmm, February 1968, The Beatles 
visited rishikesh India. 

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And if you've heard of this but 
they got really into like 

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meditation stuff. 
They visited my hurry, she 

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Mahesh Yogi's ashram and they 
went kind of because their 

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manager Brian Epstein head 
recently died, and their group 

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was like, never really the same 
after that. 

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I will say that I think Brian 
Epstein's death had something to

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do with their eventual breakup. 
Mmm they didn't really have like

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a leader anymore and I think 
Paul kind of took over things 

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and then people resented him for
that. 

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And yeah. 
So how did the manager die? 

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Baby overdose. 
Oh, that's sad. 

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Anyway, yeah, so they went to 
India and throw a bunch of other

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people there to the musician. 
Donovan who I didn't really know

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him until recently but Charlie 
likes him he's kind of like Jake

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Bugg, ish Donovan was there and 
the actress Mia farrow's there. 

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Oh wow her sister Prudence was 
there and that's what this long 

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due Prudence of her. 
Oh and I'm crazy. 

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That is crazy is apparently 
she's like this is something to 

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a child go. 
But Prudence Pharaoh got like 

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Really into the meditation. 
When like not come out, I don't 

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know. 
She was just like secluded from 

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everybody else. 
That's what she was like to into

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it to me. 
So like the song lyrics are 

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like, Dear Prudence. 
Won't you come out to play just 

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crazy? 
Yeah. 

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Let Mia Farrow was there. 
So while they were there, John 

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and Cynthia, his wife were often
separated because of different 

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meditation, routines and Yoko 
would write to John On mmm, and 

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she would write things like, I 
am a cloud watch for me in the 

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sky. 
Apparently, John will get really

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excited about her letters. 
That's odd. 

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An exchange contact information.
When they met mmm like a couple 

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years ago, right, yeah. 
So I'm guessing this whole time,

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they've been talking. 
Yeah, he told Cynthia he needed 

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space and he moved out of the 
Bungalow. 

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They've been sharing in India. 
That sucks. 

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And how long have they been 
married for? 

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I think they got married and 
okay, they got snowed in 62, so 

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this was 68. 
Okay, mmm, I feel bad for 

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Cynthia, um, on the flight from 
Delhi to London. 

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He confessed his indiscretions 
during their six-year marriage 

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and I don't think it was just, 
you know, go, but I'm not really

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sure. 
Yeah. 

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And I don't even know if he did 
hook up with Yoko, I don't know 

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if you just meant like writing 
the her or I have no idea what 

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indiscretions means. 
But yeah. 

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Apparently, he's cheating on her
and Cynthia, was shocked, and 

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John later said, the Dilemma 
made him feel suicidal. 

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Hmm. 
When I got back to England, he 

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sent Cynthia off to relax with 
friends and grease. 

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It kind of weird. 
Okay, you go, chill out. 

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I know. 
And I don't know about how that 

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works. 
I know he's like, oh, I've been 

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cheating on you. 
Why don't you go to green? 

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Yeah, come on. 
I've been cheating on. 

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You won't even agrees and I just
keep getting. 

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Yeah. 
That literally. 

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This is really what happened 
actually. 

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Um, and Julian stayed with the 
housekeeper. 

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He called Yoko and told her to 
take a taxi. 

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Oh, are you serious? 
Yeah, I'm serious. 

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I know. 
It's not really like the most 

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feel. 
Good relationship. 

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I'm sorry guys. 
But um, and she still married 

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to. 
Yeah, she's still married and 

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has a daughter. 
And apparently, so she took a 

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taxi over and they stayed up all
night making music and then they

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made love that song. 
It's my God. 

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When someday return from Greece,
she found John and Yoko in robe,

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sitting cross-legged on the 
floor facing each other and John

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said, oh hi that's awful. 
He was so he felt suicidal about

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know her and then he enjoys 
music dear. 

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Yeah. 
And then he responds. 

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Oh, hi to me, that doesn't know.
This isn't seem like a guy was 

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was I know over cheating on his 
wife. 

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It's horrible. 
Yes, John's done is not my 

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favorite. 
Sorry but it's true. 

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Cynthia was super upset 
obviously, but they like it 

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comes. 
I'll do a few weeks. 

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Okay. 
Then John sent her on holiday. 

457
00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:15,200
Again, why does she even going 
this time? 

458
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,600
Italy? 
Usually, the guy if you want 

459
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,100
such, he's the one who made 
away. 

460
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:23,900
He doesn't send the wife away, I
guess if someone was like, I 

461
00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:26,700
just paid for it like floods 
Hotel. 

462
00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:28,500
Here's a trip. 
You and your friends do it 

463
00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:29,500
early. 
I guess. 

464
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:32,600
Maybe I would Would ya? 
I know I guess if someone's 

465
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,900
gonna cheat on me they might as 
well pay for me to go on an 

466
00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:41,800
expensive trip. 
But I like and then while she 

467
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,300
was gone, you'll go move into 
the house. 

468
00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:48,000
Oh my God, they've been her 
husband, Tony Cox and daughter 

469
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,800
Kyoko, from that point on 
Johnnie Walker, pretty much 

470
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,300
Inseparable. 
So, is Young and like file for 

471
00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:58,100
divorce and stuff. 
Yes, he has. 

472
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,500
So just some Music things during
this year, there's just some 

473
00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:08,100
like Yoko references and music 
like Happiness is a Warm Gun in 

474
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:10,900
that song. 
He's like Mother Superior jumped

475
00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:15,600
the gun and apparently he used 
to call Lyoko mother. 

476
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:19,300
Oh my God. 
I know that's obviously like 

477
00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:23,700
tied to his weird childhood and 
his mother kind of abandoning 

478
00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:27,500
him. 
I need a fix could be about her 

479
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:32,200
but uh, apparently at the the 
time he was dabbling in heroin 

480
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:38,200
so it's pretty bad. 
Some Julia came out that your to

481
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:41,000
that's about his mother. 
But there's the line, ocean 

482
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,400
child calls to me, which 
references yoga because her name

483
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,500
means motion. 
Child is interesting to the top,

484
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:50,700
like, tying yoga to his mom as 
well. 

485
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,800
Yeah, it seems like, I don't 
know why he didn't feel this 

486
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,500
with Cynthia, but he seemed to 
see Yoko is almost like they're 

487
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,400
figuring. 
No, because she's Yeah, maybe 

488
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,300
that's true. 
Yeah, maybe she seemed like, I 

489
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:09,400
think that John really thought 
you'll go was like, on his level

490
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,100
maybe even higher than his 
level. 

491
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:14,800
Like she was so experimental and
creative. 

492
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,300
Yeah, you're cute. 
He respected her. 

493
00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:20,100
Anyway here did Cynthia. 
Hmm. 

494
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:24,200
Okay so as John and Yoko started
living together and John and 

495
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,000
Cynthia started getting 
divorced. 

496
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,600
Paul wanted to show his support 
for Julian and Cynthia. 

497
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,900
So he drove down to weigh bridge
where they lived bringing a 

498
00:28:33,908 --> 00:28:36,600
single red rose. 
Oh, that's sweet. 

499
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,800
It was at some point in that our
ride, he started coming up with 

500
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,600
the song. 
Hey, Jude originally, hey, 

501
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,200
Julie. 
And then he Jewels? 

502
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,600
No, I love Paul. 
That's so sweet. 

503
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,200
And how old is Julian at this 
point? 

504
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,100
A little boy? 
Yeah, I guess I think that like 

505
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:54,700
he was born when around when 
they got married. 

506
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,800
I think they kind of got married
because She was pregnant that 

507
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,600
kind of. 
Yeah. 

508
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,000
So I guess he would have been 
60. 

509
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,900
That's what I know. 
Consider it, a Paul, John 

510
00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:08,600
believed, Hey, Jude was 
addressed to him, I guess. 

511
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,600
Okay, encouraging him to be a co
co because there's a line you 

512
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,800
were made to go out and get her.
Oh my God, the opposite. 

513
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,200
So your son that you're not even
like paying attention to later 

514
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,600
in. 1987 Julian said Paul and I 
used to hang out quite a bit. 

515
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,300
More than Dad and I did maybe 
Paul was in two kids a bit more.

516
00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:33,000
At the time, we had a great 
friendship going and there seem 

517
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,400
to be far more pictures of me 
and Paul playing together at 

518
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,000
that age, the pictures of me and
Dad. 

519
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,700
Wow, that is crazy. 
That's a sweet appalling Isn't 

520
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:44,700
it? 
I love farming gardening. 

521
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:51,500
Okay this is about to join. 
Also said, this is sad to. 

522
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:55,200
I never really wanted to know 
the truth about how dad was 

523
00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:57,300
there were some negative stuff 
talked about me. 

524
00:29:57,300 --> 00:29:59,900
Like when he said that, I'd come
out of a whisky bottle on a 

525
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:02,900
Saturday night, stuff like that,
that's tough to deal with you 

526
00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:05,400
think, where's the love in that?
It was very psychologically 

527
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,000
damaging for years and damaging 
for years that affected me. 

528
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,700
I used to think, how could he 
say that about his own bloody 

529
00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:13,300
son? 
Son, wait. 

530
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:16,000
So he basically said, like, the 
only reason he was born as 

531
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,900
because, like, they got drunk 
and like had sex, that's never 

532
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:23,400
Bowl. 
I know, that's so sad. 

533
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:29,100
Yeah, that's so like, how can 
you have any, how can you be so 

534
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:31,900
little compassionate for your 
own son? 

535
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:36,000
Like, even if that's true, like 
you would never say such a 

536
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,600
thing. 
I know you would obviously love 

537
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,300
your child so much. 
It's terrible. 

538
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,400
I feel like John had a lot of 
issues. 

539
00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:49,300
Around this time, I think he did
get better but not know, I'm not

540
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:51,600
excusing it but I'm just trying 
to explain. 

541
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,700
Like it's hard to wrap your head
around someone writing and 

542
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:57,400
saying, all this stuff about 
peace and stuff. 

543
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,100
Yeah, exactly sure. 
Yeah. 

544
00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:07,700
So did he ever realize? 
Then that Hey, Jude was about 

545
00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:10,000
his son and said of him, I think
he did. 

546
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,500
Okay. 
Apparently dudes, their most 

547
00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:17,600
successful beautiful song ever. 
So what is you were made to go 

548
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,900
out and get it mean then if I'm 
not sure. 

549
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:24,200
Yeah I mean it could have been 
about Yoko I don't know. 

550
00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:27,000
Hmm. 
Maybe it was about something I 

551
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,000
don't know or maybe it was his 
own thing about Linda or 

552
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,300
something. 
And he just turned on there. 

553
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:34,600
Like I'd have no idea. 
Sometimes I feel like a song is 

554
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,900
like a mosaic of like different 
things put together. 

555
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,700
Yeah. 
Could have been anything. 

556
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:43,300
So around this time, this is 
one. 

557
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:47,200
John broke the Bands. 
Long-held pack forbidding wives 

558
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,600
and girlfriends from recording 
sessions. 

559
00:31:50,900 --> 00:31:54,900
Apparently, George Harrison said
she just moved in that's 

560
00:31:54,900 --> 00:32:00,000
annoying. 
And if you guys watched the get 

561
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,200
back documentary, which came out
this year, you can see, you'll 

562
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,000
go is literally sitting while 
the recording. 

563
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,800
Yeah, the album's Abbey Road and
let it be. 

564
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:14,900
She's just sitting right there. 
Like I couldn't believe I mean 

565
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:17,500
some of Footage has been out 
forever but I just never saw it 

566
00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:19,700
but she's like right next to 
them. 

567
00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:21,700
Yeah, like why would she have to
be there? 

568
00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:24,700
Yeah, and I feel like then the 
others can't really be as 

569
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:27,600
creative because someone that 
they're not as close to is 

570
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,100
there. 
And like yeah I feel this way 

571
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:35,800
about like people when they like
are in relationships really a 

572
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,500
new relationship, sometimes they
feel like they always have to 

573
00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:40,900
invite the other person and I 
just was kind of new. 

574
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,300
Yeah, yeah. 
And luckily like my friends 

575
00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:45,100
really aren't like that but I 
know some people. 

576
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,200
Whoo-hoo, like once they've 
gotten in relationships, like 

577
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:51,400
their Partners. 
Always just then a plus one and 

578
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,700
and sometimes I think it's fine 
but it can really just throw off

579
00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:58,500
the entire Vibe. 
Yeah. 

580
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:02,000
I mean they had been writing 
songs like just them. 

581
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,600
Yeah. 
There's it's like a very 

582
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,900
intimate relationship. 
I've never heard music with 

583
00:33:06,908 --> 00:33:11,200
people but I would assume it 
would be awkward to come up with

584
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,900
things in front of someone. 
You don't know that. 

585
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:16,100
Well yeah, exactly. 
Or maybe you don't even Because 

586
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:18,700
I kind of get the vibe that at 
least George didn't like Yoko. 

587
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,900
Yeah. 
Well, it seems like she's coming

588
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:24,300
in and like, she's making it 
seem like she's a member. 

589
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,600
Yeah, of the songwriting team. 
Yeah, I do think though. 

590
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,200
I mean you would think you'll go
would have a thought like I 

591
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,100
probably shouldn't be here but I
do blame John Moore for this 

592
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:39,800
Dynamic. 
I mean it's him that wasn't 

593
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,500
making a boundary. 
Yeah, exactly should have said 

594
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,200
playing with the dogs, you know.
I'm like, see you later. 

595
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,300
Yeah. 
And like a part of me is like, 

596
00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:51,300
well, there's something kind of 
like sexist and annoying is like

597
00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:54,600
no girls allowed, I know, but I 
understand it when it's such an 

598
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,700
intimate personal. 
Yeah, it's of songwriting. 

599
00:33:56,700 --> 00:34:00,800
And if all the other members 
have up to this point respected 

600
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,900
that, yeah, that is pretty 
shitty of John. 

601
00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:06,600
I know. 
I don't think it's because 

602
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,400
they're women. 
I think it's just like, they 

603
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:12,600
didn't want anyone else there. 
Yeah, exactly. 

604
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,199
Yeah. 
Oh boy. 

605
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:21,000
So They when they were doing The
White Album, there's this song 

606
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:24,300
Revolution 9. 
I think it's like there were 

607
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:27,600
song ever but it's very weird. 
It has John and Yoko like 

608
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,100
screaming and moaning with 
samples and this is the song, 

609
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:36,000
one of the songs but Charles 
Manson thought was a message to 

610
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:42,199
him and like inspired the Manson
Murders, which is pretty crazy. 

611
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,699
And Paul was not happy about 
this song because cuz apparently

612
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:50,600
he'd been making sound collages 
at home since 1966 and he felt 

613
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,100
like now John would seem like an
innovator. 

614
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,500
Yeah, he wasn't happy about it, 
nine times. 

615
00:34:56,500 --> 00:35:02,400
So it's still 1968, June 18th 
Yoko is actually pregnant. 

616
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:06,200
But at this point, the public 
didn't know that John had left 

617
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,500
Cynthia. 
Oh wow, I didn't know that me 

618
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:13,500
neither, so they're not married.
Okay, yeah, I think there's 

619
00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:18,100
still like processing divorce. 
Really John and Yoko attended a 

620
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:21,500
film Premiere in London, wearing
matching outfits. 

621
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,500
And so this was like the first 
time. 

622
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,900
Yeah, solemn. 
She's only 2 months pregnant, 

623
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:27,400
though. 
So don't think people knew yeah.

624
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,200
And there were a lot of angry 
fans yelling racist. 

625
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,100
Slurs that hurt. 
Oh, that's awful. 

626
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:36,200
And the next morning the 
relationship was international 

627
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,900
news. 
Why were they angry? 

628
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:40,600
Just because she was Japanese. 
Or were they were? 

629
00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:43,400
I mean, obviously just seems 
like they're racist. 

630
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,800
Yeah, I think they were mad. 
Because they liked on and 

631
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,300
Cynthia. 
Yeah, felt like she was a home 

632
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:51,700
wrecker. 
And then yeah, it was throwing 

633
00:35:51,700 --> 00:35:55,700
racism and into that's awful. 
And then John found himself in 

634
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:58,700
the biggest Scandal since is 
Jesus comments? 

635
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,800
Which if people don't know, he 
said the Beatles were bigger 

636
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,400
than Jesus. 
Okay. 

637
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,000
I can see that being 
controversial. 

638
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:09,300
Yeah, I don't like that comment.
I don't know. 

639
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:11,100
I do think it is like, so 
provocative. 

640
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:13,000
We have people who are really 
mad about it. 

641
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,800
Like some people like You know, 
super Christian like burned. 

642
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:19,300
Yeah, that's also just super 
arrogant. 

643
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:23,400
I know obviously they were 
incredible, but yeah, to say 

644
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,500
that is just and he's like, 
well, it's just a fact but like 

645
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:31,300
on. 
So John and Yoko needed 

646
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:34,300
somewhere to go, I guess because
like, they're both married still

647
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:37,200
technically and, you know, 
Cynthia still like lived in that

648
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:42,000
house with Julian. 
So apparently, Ringo had a flat 

649
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,200
in London and he had leased it 
to Paul and Then Jimi Hendrix, 

650
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,600
interested. 
Wow. 

651
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,400
But he evicted Hendrix because 
he damaged the walls during an 

652
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,400
acid trip. 
Oh my God. 

653
00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:55,400
Not crazy. 
These people are crazy. 

654
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,000
Yeah, so John Yoko need it. 
So he's pretty strict. 

655
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,300
Yeah. 
I know damage to the property. 

656
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,300
I moved into that apartment. 
Yeah. 

657
00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:12,200
So this is leading to the big 
controversy. 

658
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,700
There is a cumbers. 
Yeah. 

659
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:17,900
No, the biggest controversy was 
just him. 

660
00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:21,600
Oh, okay, together. 
Okay. 

661
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,400
Yeah, it is leaving Cynthia 
ever. 

662
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,200
Oh sorry. 
That was the biggest controversy

663
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,700
but then there's another kind of
busy um in the late morning, 

664
00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:35,300
October 18th, 1968. 
So John was 28 and yoko's. 35. 

665
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:36,800
Mmm. 
And you'll go six months 

666
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,700
pregnant. 
They're in bed half naked 

667
00:37:39,700 --> 00:37:41,400
apparently. 
When there was a knock on the 

668
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,600
door and it was a police 
officer. 

669
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:49,500
And at the time they were 
freaking out because John 

670
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,200
described their life at this 
apartment as a strange cocktail 

671
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,900
of love sex and forgetfulness or
Yoko called it a diet of 

672
00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:01,700
champagne caviar and heroin very
bad. 

673
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,400
Um we at the room or are they 
doing all those drugs together? 

674
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,300
Yeah I think so. 
At the door was detective, a 

675
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:13,400
detective Sergeant, I didn't get
his name but he was the same one

676
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,000
who had busted Mick, Jagger 
Keith. 

677
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,500
Richards and Donovan resulting 
how this this detective is just 

678
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,200
like on a mission to arrest 
every musician. 

679
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:29,700
He came in alongside two other 
detective constables and to K9 

680
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:33,800
handlers and a policewoman and 
they found some can of this. 

681
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,200
That's all they could find. 
That's not bottom, they were 

682
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,700
they arrested them squad cars, 
brought them to police station, 

683
00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:45,000
John pleaded guilty and but 
charges against the, okay. 

684
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:47,600
Do our jobs. 
Yeah, but sadly a month later. 

685
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,300
She had a miscarriage. 
Oh, I know that's awful. 

686
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:53,400
I was expecting this to be 
Shawn. 

687
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:56,200
It's not Sean. 
I know it's so sad because I 

688
00:38:56,207 --> 00:38:59,100
feel like you could probably 
attribute that whole experience.

689
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:02,000
Yeah, exactly. 
I mean you can't know for sure? 

690
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,700
Yeah. 
But like the stress of like 

691
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:06,300
being arrested and then like 
being in prison overnight and 

692
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:09,000
everything. 
No, very sad drunk. 

693
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,300
Slept on the floor of her 
hospital room and they named the

694
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:13,800
baby. 
John Ono. 

695
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,000
Lennon. 
The second They're sad. 

696
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:23,900
So then that see month, November
1968, John and Yoko came out 

697
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:26,600
with an album together called 
unfinished music. 

698
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,000
Vol 12 virgins, what the fuck? 
That's what's up. 

699
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,400
There are totally nude on the 
cover and I was like so 

700
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,300
scandalous. 
So it was like sold in a paper 

701
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:41,000
bag. 
Wow stores and at Newark 

702
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,900
Airport, the shipment of albums 
was actually seized and didn't. 

703
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:47,600
Bounced pornographic. 
Wow. 

704
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,900
FBI opened a file and just - no 
way why if we're just being 

705
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:56,700
nude? 
Yeah well because this time like

706
00:39:56,700 --> 00:40:02,200
the 60s FBI was like spying so 
much on anybody that was like 

707
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,600
countercultural. 
Yeah that's true. 

708
00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:08,900
That whole I saw that movie 
seberg that Kristen Stewart's 

709
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:11,600
Jean seberg. 
She was like an actress and she 

710
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,000
was like an advocate for the 
Black Panthers and the FBI. 

711
00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:18,300
Like you know, it was really 
afraid of the Black Panthers and

712
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,400
you know the whole social 
justice movement so they were 

713
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,500
like tapping her phone. 
Yeah, I've been stalking her and

714
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:28,800
yeah. 
So they ended up doing that to 

715
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:34,300
John Lennon to apparently George
Harrison didn't really like 

716
00:40:34,300 --> 00:40:38,600
you'll go at least that's what I
picked up from some research. 

717
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:41,200
I'm sure it was more nuanced 
than just like, I don't like her

718
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:47,800
but he said to her Dylan meaning
Bob, Dylan Dylan and a few 

719
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,900
people said that you got a lousy
name in New York and you give 

720
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:53,800
off a bad Vibe. 
He said that's a hurry. 

721
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,500
Yeah, it is kind of mean, and 
John said, I didn't hit him. 

722
00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:00,300
I don't know why. 
That is pretty mean. 

723
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:04,700
It's one thing to not like your 
friends partner, but don't say 

724
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:08,200
something right to their face. 
Right. 

725
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,300
Crazy. 
You give off a pile of how, um, 

726
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:18,900
kind of modern that sounds I 
know, you know, so, Now, we're 

727
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:22,600
not in 1969. 
I got this from the get back 

728
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,800
documentary. 
This is January 13th. 1969. 

729
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:29,500
Mmm, everyone's everyone's at 
the studio. 

730
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:31,400
Yeah, but Johnny ago haven't 
shown up yet. 

731
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:34,400
They're like really late. 
I think everyone sitting around 

732
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,200
waiting for John Yoko and 
they're talking about meeting 

733
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,900
that they had over the weekend 
and this is all recorded, it's 

734
00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:43,700
all real. 
And Paul said, there's only like

735
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:47,800
two things like two answers. 
One is to fight it and fight her

736
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,900
and try to Get the Beatles back 
to for people without you o go 

737
00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:54,700
and sort of ask Yoko to sit down
and sort of ask you o go to sit 

738
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:56,900
down at the board meetings or 
else. 

739
00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:59,700
The other thing is just to 
realize she's there you know and

740
00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:03,200
he's not going to sort of split 
with her just for our sakes and 

741
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,100
then it's not even so much of an
obstacle as long as we're trying

742
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:09,000
not to surmount it you know 
while we're still trying to get 

743
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:12,400
over it, it's an obstacle but it
isn't really it's not that bad, 

744
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,100
you know, they can stay 
together, you know, it keeps 

745
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:19,700
saying that but it shouldn't be 
We can't operate under these 

746
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:21,900
conditions, boy. 
You know, we're coming out. 

747
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,400
It's like we're striking. 
That's what it is. 

748
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,400
It's like a strike because work 
conditions aren't right, but 

749
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,000
it's not that bad, you know? 
And the director of the movie 

750
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:36,700
Michael and Z Hogg said, but he 
knows that doesn't he? 

751
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:40,700
And Paul said, John knows that 
sure but he's Michael said, does

752
00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:45,300
he talk about it at all? 
And Paul said, no, but he's you 

753
00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:46,800
see. 
We've done a lot of beetles now,

754
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,600
we've had a lot of beetles So I 
think John's thing know, 

755
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:53,500
obviously, if it came to a push 
between Yoko and the Beatles, 

756
00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:58,000
it's Yoko, you know, mmm. 
And then later Paul said, they 

757
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,300
just want to be near each other.
It's his decision that it's none

758
00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:03,500
of our business to start 
interfering with that. 

759
00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:06,000
Even when it comes into our 
business, you still can't really

760
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,100
say much, except look, I don't 
like it, John. 

761
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:11,200
And then he can say, well, screw
you or I like it then. 

762
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,900
Michael said, have you done that
already? 

763
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,800
And Paul said, well, I told him,
I didn't like writing songs with

764
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,700
him and go go. 
Michael said, were you writing 

765
00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:23,000
together much more before she 
came around and Paul said, oh 

766
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,500
yeah, for sure. 
And then Paul said it's going to

767
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:29,700
be such an incredible sort of 
comical thing like in 50 years 

768
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:31,600
time. 
You know, they broke up because 

769
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,700
you'll go sat on a, you know, or
just something like that. 

770
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:38,400
What well, you see, John kept 
bringing this girl on what it's 

771
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,500
not as though. 
There's any sort of 

772
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:41,900
earth-shattering splitting rows 
or anything? 

773
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:46,000
Yeah, we said this was all 
recorded this whole 

774
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,200
conversation. 
That's crazy, you know? 

775
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,100
It's in that documentary. 
Yeah, that's that they actually 

776
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:52,800
said it. 
That's crazy. 

777
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,600
I mean, you know, and it's crazy
that the footage was just like, 

778
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,900
like, locked up for so long. 
This is making me think. 

779
00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:03,500
Yeah, now that Yoko broke broke 
up the band but John broke up 

780
00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:07,100
the band because he didn't care 
about it enough to like make 

781
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:09,800
other people feel more 
comfortable if you watch the 

782
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,000
documentary, it really does seem
like John and care that much. 

783
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,700
Yeah, I know he kept my coming 
in late and he just didn't seem 

784
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:21,800
to be like, Bring as much 
material and Paul knows that to 

785
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,800
obviously he's like, listen, 
it's not that bad. 

786
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,800
Like if but we were to give him 
an ultimatum, he's gonna leave 

787
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:30,500
the band. 
Yeah. 

788
00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:33,700
So so we just have to deal with 
it and he was like, really 

789
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:37,600
nothing they can do. 
And then later that day, the 

790
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,800
tape suddenly turned on. 
This is so weird. 

791
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,400
There was like no video 
component but just audio and I'm

792
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:50,500
not how somebody got this audio 
but It's John Paul talking and 

793
00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:54,900
John said, um, I mean, I'm not 
going to lie, I would sacrifice 

794
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:58,000
you all for her. 
This is how it is, you know. 

795
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,500
And that's all it was though. 
She comes everywhere. 

796
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:02,200
You know. 
And then Paul said. 

797
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,200
So where's George? 
John said fuck knows our 

798
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,200
George's. 
Oh, that's it. 

799
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:13,100
But we're was good. 
Yeah. 

800
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:16,300
They were not getting along 
really and at the same time, as 

801
00:45:16,300 --> 00:45:19,700
all this I think George was But 
you'll go but he also wanted 

802
00:45:19,700 --> 00:45:24,200
more recognition. 
Hmm as a solo artist and there 

803
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,200
were also disputes over like 
management and Paul was actually

804
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,200
suing the rest of them. 
It's like kind of a long story 

805
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:36,900
but they had both chose like 
different managers or something 

806
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:40,800
and Paul didn't agree with the 
ones they were working with. 

807
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,500
Wow. 
He could, like split up his like

808
00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:46,300
to not work with that guy. 
Yeah. 

809
00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:47,600
You didn't. 
Like the only way to do that. 

810
00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:51,600
With BJ like Sue The Beatles. 
Okay, that seems like that could

811
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,200
have a better impact on them 
splitting up, it didn't he did 

812
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:59,100
but it's not as like I don't 
know interesting as like because

813
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:01,200
of a relationship. 
Hmm. 

814
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:03,800
It's very dramatic. 
So there were like a bunch of 

815
00:46:03,808 --> 00:46:07,400
things going on. 
So it's not like totally honest 

816
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,600
to say, it was just Yoko but I 
think it was definitely in 

817
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,600
contribute. 
Yeah, that seems like a huge 

818
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,700
Factor. 
Yeah. 

819
00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:15,600
Like if they were all getting 
along totally. 

820
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,900
Well, I don't know. 
I think Probably the management 

821
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:27,200
thing going to be even happened.
so, Then finally Yoko Ono and 

822
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,100
her husband divorced. 
Wait, they're still together. 

823
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:32,700
Zona, how are you not getting 
together? 

824
00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:35,200
What like, they're still 
technically okay but they were. 

825
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,000
Yeah, they were separated. 
Yeah, it was okay. 

826
00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:42,000
February 2nd 1969 and became 
official. 

827
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,500
What's in some so long? 
That's crazy. 

828
00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:48,700
Maybe he like, wouldn't be 
served or whatever. 

829
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,400
Yeah, he refused. 
I'm no, no. 

830
00:46:52,300 --> 00:46:54,100
I don't think it takes a while. 
Mmm. 

831
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,100
Like a month later. 
John and Yoko. 

832
00:46:58,100 --> 00:46:59,200
Got married. 
Okay. 

833
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,100
They decided to get married 
suddenly. 

834
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,700
This is kind of annoying to me, 
two days after Paul and Linda 

835
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,000
got married. 
That is so annoying. 

836
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,600
Did they go to found Linda's 
wedding? 

837
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,500
They actually did not. 
Oh yeah, I'm fine. 

838
00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:18,100
We're invited though. 
Linda only, they just got 

839
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:22,200
married like a registry. 
Really like a big deal. 

840
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:24,100
Yeah. 
But I do think, what are the 

841
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:25,900
odds? 
They got married and then two 

842
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:29,100
days later they got suddenly 
decided to get married. 

843
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:31,000
Yeah, that's it. 
Obviously copy it. 

844
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,900
Now I know I think they were 
that's so like, I don't know 

845
00:47:36,900 --> 00:47:40,200
narcissistic almost. 
Hmm, I know. 

846
00:47:40,900 --> 00:47:44,400
So, John and Yoko tried to get 
married in France, but they were

847
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,300
turned back at the Southampton 
dog because I didn't bring 

848
00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:50,800
passwords no. 
Um, in the end they flew a 

849
00:47:50,808 --> 00:47:53,700
private plane to I can never say
this right. 

850
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,100
Gibraltar. 
Mmm on March 20th. 

851
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,300
They got married there. 
They're on the ground for less 

852
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:04,500
than half an hour. 
No less than an hour. 

853
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,300
They're on the ground for less 
than an hour. 

854
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:09,400
Then I took off for Amsterdam 
that was the day. 

855
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,200
We got married, big, Flyers? 
Huh celebrity. 

856
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,700
They're like under Fire for the.
Yeah. 

857
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,500
That's when they did their 
famous bed-in for peace. 

858
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,600
Mmm. 
We're basically, they stayed in 

859
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,000
bed from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. 
They shouldn't buy the whole day

860
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,400
and they did it for seven days. 
Oh my God. 

861
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,900
And they just let like 
journalist. 

862
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:35,000
Interview that entire time. 
And that's actually like 

863
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,700
incredibly easy. 
Yeah. 

864
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:41,700
I have like some footage from 
it. 

865
00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:43,600
I don't know what I would want 
to show. 

866
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:48,600
That is like, very performative.
I mean, if you want to like, I 

867
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,000
feel like if people did that 
today, I think people did say 

868
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,800
this though. 
Yeah, I was going to say, I feel

869
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,100
like if you did that today 
people be like, oh, they're just

870
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:57,400
so full. 
Yeah, they are. 

871
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,900
I do think some people did say 
that, I don't think. 

872
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,100
Ink necessarily the whole world 
was just like, it's amazing. 

873
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:08,500
I thought this was funny though.
Wait, I see if I can find it. 

874
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,500
It's a pretty long video but oh 
wait, this might be it. 

875
00:49:19,900 --> 00:49:23,500
It's just been making signs and 
so squeaky the marker. 

876
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:28,900
Wait, but they're walking 
around, they're not even staying

877
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:30,800
in the bed, you're getting ready
for it. 

878
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:37,100
Okay? 
Remember, I don't know what that

879
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:39,600
high-pitched sound is. 
Thought it was your become very 

880
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,600
close. 
I've no like journals even 

881
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,600
bothered to go. 
They did though because John 

882
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,900
Lennon was insanely famous. 
Yeah. 

883
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:54,300
But okay, I thought this is 
really funny. 

884
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,000
Um, this journey was Gloria 
Emerson just like ripped them 

885
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,400
off. 
I'm gonna play this. 

886
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,600
The only reason, if I'm going to
get on the front page, I might 

887
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,200
as well get on the front page 
with the word peace, but you've 

888
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,700
made yourself ridiculous to some
people. 

889
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:14,200
I don't care. 
If you're not good, if it saves 

890
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:19,700
lives, you don't think you owe 
you. 

891
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,800
Ha ha. 
Can't you give up something 

892
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:07,900
else? 
There would be no. 

893
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:08,800
Stop it. 
It doesn't. 

894
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,000
It's not the sacrifice. 
You can't get that into your 

895
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:11,700
head. 
Can he? 

896
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:15,100
You've stated a half a dozen 
times their MV is irrelevant. 

897
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:17,400
I agree. 
It was no sacrifice to get rid 

898
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,400
of the NBA because it was 
embarrassed and kind of a 

899
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,400
perilous. 
Did you make how did I don't 

900
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,100
nobody dies in campaign for 
peace? 

901
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,200
Can you understand that? 
No, I'm very big advertising 

902
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,300
campaign for peace and self. 
Well, you think you ever taught?

903
00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:36,200
Nice, middle-class gestures for 
peace, and intellectual 

904
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:41,100
manifestos written by a lot of 
half-witted intellectuals, and 

905
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:43,400
nobody reads them. 
That's the trouble with the 

906
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,600
peace movement. 
Well, it just seems another 

907
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,600
nether land. 
I mean, I can't think of anyone 

908
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,300
who seems more remote for 
ugliness of what's Happening 

909
00:51:52,300 --> 00:51:54,600
than you, when I do. 
See, you getting up and a 

910
00:51:54,607 --> 00:51:57,100
Tuesday morning and thinking 
that see, what should we do 

911
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:59,900
today and what war is going on, 
that's your imagination, you 

912
00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:01,500
know? 
Really only Zoe carry on. 

913
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:02,600
You make, what did you make it 
feel? 

914
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,400
That's it. 
I'm someone who admired you very

915
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,500
much. 
Well, I'm sorry. 

916
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:08,000
You like the old mop tops? 
Dear. 

917
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,700
And you thought it was, I was 
very satirical and witty and you

918
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:14,400
like Hard Day's Night love, but 
I've grown up, but you obviously

919
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,500
haven't have you. 
Yes. 

920
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:19,200
Well, what have you grown up to 
now, 29? 

921
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:20,700
Yes. 
Yes. 

922
00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:22,700
How was Greece? 
That's beautiful. 

923
00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:26,500
So they sang one of your songs, 
well, if you great song, sure, 

924
00:52:26,500 --> 00:52:28,400
but it's not all you can say 
about that. 

925
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,600
The moratorium was saying that 
in America. 

926
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,400
They're so serious about the 
protest. 

927
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:34,600
Moment just then but they were 
so flipping that they were 

928
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,100
singing a happy-go-lucky song, 
which happens to be one. 

929
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:40,500
I wrote, and I'm glad they sang 
it and when I get there, I'll 

930
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:45,600
sing it with them when I get in 
and that was a message from me 

931
00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:50,200
to America or to anywhere that I
use my songwriting ability to 

932
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,900
write a song that we could all 
sing together and I'm proud that

933
00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:56,800
they sang it at the moratorium. 
I wouldn't have cared if they'd 

934
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,900
signed we can do. 
We shall overcome but it just so

935
00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:01,700
happens. 
They sang that and I'm proud of 

936
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:06,000
it and I'll be glad To go there 
and sing with them - Jolly. 

937
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,900
I will make it jealous. 
You know, we have to make a 

938
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:11,600
jolly. 
I can't afford to be neurotic. 

939
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,900
Maybe we might stop the war but 
enjoy. 

940
00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:16,600
Yes. 
It's because the thing is, when 

941
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,000
you're happy, and when you're 
smiling, you don't want to kill 

942
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,500
somebody, do you? 
You know, it's when you're very 

943
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:25,600
serious, you start to think 
about violence and death and 

944
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,900
killing. 
I mean, have you ever seen a 

945
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:32,200
person a person killing somebody
with a smile on his face? 

946
00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:34,100
And Being happy. 
No. 

947
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:37,600
Killers are unhappy people and 
their violent, because they're 

948
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,100
so unhappy. 
And so damn serious. 

949
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:47,100
Steve Allen be boarded. 
Thank you, goodbye. 

950
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,500
Well, I think that's what you 
wanted, but the last point was a

951
00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:54,700
good point and she didn't want 
to respond to. 

952
00:53:54,700 --> 00:54:06,200
That was a good time to do the 
other part. 

953
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,100
That's kind of cute. 
I do, like, I didn't have many 

954
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:16,300
Clips, but I do think your crew 
seems very sweet. 

955
00:54:16,300 --> 00:54:21,500
Yeah, she seems so Optimistic 
and cute. 

956
00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:23,500
Yeah, but I do agree with the 
reporter. 

957
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:25,600
I mean, like, let me really 
think about this. 

958
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,300
I what would I bet in do? 
I guess it is kind of like an 

959
00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:30,300
advertisement. 
Yeah. 

960
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:35,000
But I would think most people 
are good amount of people are 

961
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:40,200
thinking to themselves. 
Like oh this is stupid. 

962
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:47,200
I feel like you need almost like
more specific advice to make 

963
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,900
change. 
I don't know just saying like 

964
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:50,500
piece. 
Yeah exactly what is that? 

965
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:55,800
So big it's like you can afford 
to just lie in bed all day most 

966
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,300
people. 
Yeah and like but like people 

967
00:54:58,300 --> 00:55:01,600
who have it's like maybe at a 
time like maybe when I was like 

968
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,900
sick or something, I like lie in
bed for like a week long or 

969
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:07,000
something. 
Yeah, it's not making a 

970
00:55:07,300 --> 00:55:08,000
difference. 
Friends. 

971
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,800
Like the only way to really 
protest is so like, actually 

972
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,800
change somehow hurt the 
oppressor? 

973
00:55:13,900 --> 00:55:17,300
Yeah, that is causing it like 
to, I don't know. 

974
00:55:17,300 --> 00:55:20,800
I mean did they Inspire some 
change? 

975
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,700
Maybe, I don't know. 
I mean, it could be just, it's 

976
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:28,300
all so big. 
Like so many small to decisions,

977
00:55:28,300 --> 00:55:30,800
maybe can lead to some people 
deciding. 

978
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,300
Like, I'm going to move it to 
turn or something. 

979
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:36,000
Yeah, I think so. 
Self-important about that's the 

980
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,400
thing. 
It's like they're not aware. 

981
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:43,800
We're of like, this is yeah, 
such a minor thing I do for the 

982
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,700
most part. 
Agree with that reporter also I 

983
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:47,500
love her voice. 
Yeah. 

984
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,200
Heck I want to talk like she's 
so cool to me. 

985
00:55:50,700 --> 00:55:52,800
Like wow. 
I want to be that woman. 

986
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:58,400
She looks like Anna Wintour 
something, she's so chill, she 

987
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,500
seems so smart, but I mean it's,
I can kinda see like, well, if 

988
00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:07,300
you're gonna be like a pop star,
like, I guess it's better to say

989
00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:09,800
that But then just like any 
random thing. 

990
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:11,900
I don't know if you're going to 
have people's attention maybe 

991
00:56:11,900 --> 00:56:15,000
it's better to say that then 
whatever but it does come off a 

992
00:56:15,008 --> 00:56:17,400
little Annoying. 
Yeah. 

993
00:56:19,300 --> 00:56:23,100
So back to the story around this
time. 

994
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:26,100
John changed his name to John 
Ono Lennon. 

995
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:27,700
Hmm. 
He removed his middle name 

996
00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:29,600
Winston. 
He loves Yoko. 

997
00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:30,800
Yeah. 
Oh yeah. 

998
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,600
That's why I said intense 
describe my flick, the obsession

999
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:34,900
intense. 
Yeah. 

1000
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,300
Like they just were together all
the time. 

1001
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:39,200
They are obsessed with each 
other. 

1002
00:56:39,700 --> 00:56:43,900
He said about getting married. 
John said intellectually. 

1003
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:46,400
We didn't believe in getting 
married but one doesn't love. 

1004
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,600
Someone just intellectually for 
two people. 

1005
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,200
Marriage still has the edge over
just living together. 

1006
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,600
Yeah, I agree with that, I like 
that. 

1007
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,900
Yeah, I mean it's so totally 
different to say like my wife or

1008
00:56:57,900 --> 00:57:02,000
my husband. 
Then I don't agree my roommate. 

1009
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,400
So kind of back to the 
discussion about Broke up the 

1010
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,500
Beatles and that's a maybe like 
you could see it more as their 

1011
00:57:12,500 --> 00:57:16,000
relationship. 
Not just yo, Cobra, beautiful. 

1012
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,600
Yeah. 
But so earlier in the Beatles 

1013
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,400
career John had been like a 
major contributor to the group 

1014
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,700
singles. 
Mmm. 

1015
00:57:23,100 --> 00:57:28,300
But around this time he really 
didn't he still wrote songs but 

1016
00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:30,900
Paul's are to just dominate with
like Hello. 

1017
00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:33,200
Goodbye, Magical Mystery Tour, 
Lady Madonna. 

1018
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:38,600
Hey Jude get back, let it be All
those ones were by Paul John's 

1019
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,200
were just I don't know little 
weirder little less popular 

1020
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,400
which whatever. 
But the British comedian Spike 

1021
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,200
Milligan said, and I 67, I knew 
John Lennon quite well. 

1022
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,200
He used to talk a lot about 
comedy. 

1023
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:56,200
He was a goon show, freak it 
all, which was a show at the 

1024
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,400
time. 
It all stopped. 

1025
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,200
When he married Yoko Ono, 
everything stopped, he never 

1026
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,800
asked for me again. 
That sound. 

1027
00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:05,900
Yeah, I hate that too. 
When people just get in early 

1028
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:08,400
Change it. 
They use abandon all of their 

1029
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,700
old friends, and it seems like 
that's what John did. 

1030
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,800
And I don't think that's 
healthy, mmm. 

1031
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:17,800
It's not know. 
I know I hate when that happens 

1032
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:23,600
to it's so sad. 
So guys, if you're listening, 

1033
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,000
try to maintain your friendship 
relationship. 

1034
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,900
That's all I got to say. 
Yeah, that would be my bed in. 

1035
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:32,700
Yeah, Kelly's really good at 
that. 

1036
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,600
Oh well, I love. 
My friends. 

1037
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,700
Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah. 

1038
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,500
And I love you and your friends 
are forever. 

1039
00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:45,500
So yeah. 
And you just you never want to 

1040
00:58:45,500 --> 00:58:49,000
find yourself in a situation 
where like you depend completely

1041
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,100
on one person. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1042
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:54,700
Yeah, that's all I gotta say 
about that. 

1043
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:58,300
Yeah. 
And then in the book, The 

1044
00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:01,500
Beatles by Hunter Davies which 
is kind of like the best Beatles

1045
00:59:01,500 --> 00:59:05,000
book, I'd say he wrote then 
Along Came Yoko at light at 

1046
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,200
last, he meaning? 
I found a kindred spirit if of a

1047
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,600
very unusual kind John was 
immediately sparked into life. 

1048
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,400
He was away on a new plane 
realizing at once that Paul who 

1049
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,700
had been who had until then been
his buddy, his soul mate was as 

1050
00:59:19,700 --> 00:59:22,400
conventional as Cynthia 
together, John and Yoko 

1051
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,800
discovered, new and 
all-consuming aims. 

1052
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,600
The rest of the beetle, didn't 
matter anymore. 

1053
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,200
When Paul came up with an idea 
for say, a live TV show, John 

1054
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:34,800
wasn't really interested. 
Yeah, that does seem very 

1055
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,900
unhealthy everything Everything 
not just his friends, all his 

1056
00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:40,800
passion, his music. 
Yeah. 

1057
00:59:40,900 --> 00:59:42,500
Is like Falling by the wayside. 
It be. 

1058
00:59:42,500 --> 00:59:47,300
So sad to be Cynthia's. 
I know it's sad if she ever find

1059
00:59:47,300 --> 00:59:50,000
love again. 
I think so. 

1060
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:52,900
But I don't know. 
Yeah, different episode. 

1061
00:59:53,300 --> 00:59:57,400
Um, yeah, I love the 
relationship between John and 

1062
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,100
Paul, to, I find it really 
interesting and that makes me 

1063
01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:03,700
sad if that's true that, like, 
at this time, he started to 

1064
01:00:03,707 --> 01:00:09,900
think Paul was A basic course. 
Musically like, oh, I'm so 

1065
01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:15,200
avant-garde and your yeah, all 
your Silly Love Songs but those 

1066
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,900
are the songs that are 
connecting with people. 

1067
01:00:16,900 --> 01:00:22,600
I know. 
So I do think that there are an 

1068
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:27,400
awesome pair like Duo and yeah 
each other so much but I hate 

1069
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,000
like after the Beatles broke up,
I feel like John started, 

1070
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,400
trash-talking Paul's music and 
stuff and that just breaks my 

1071
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,100
heart. 
I like One Direction it is it 

1072
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,500
and you know it's in my notes 
Here by guess. 

1073
01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:45,200
I'll just get to it that. 
Like apparently if anyone's a 1D

1074
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,200
fans I was talking about. 
So Shannon the other day that 

1075
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:54,000
apparently people kind of 
compared Zane's, fiancee Perrie 

1076
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,800
to go go and like that using 
lost interest and I mean they 

1077
01:00:58,808 --> 01:01:00,500
didn't end up even sticking 
together. 

1078
01:01:00,500 --> 01:01:03,400
Yeah like that. 
There's a similar situation that

1079
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,600
is interesting. 
I wonder if that's really the 

1080
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,700
case. 
Shannon say that she thinks 

1081
01:01:07,700 --> 01:01:11,300
Perry contributed to it. 
I think it's similar that it's 

1082
01:01:11,300 --> 01:01:14,600
like, it's not Perry's fault. 
Yes, just the guy. 

1083
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,000
Got more into his personal life.
Yeah, and I don't know. 

1084
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,000
Yeah, let me screw up. 
Yay, I don't know. 

1085
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,100
It is quite misogynistic that 
people and I just said it that 

1086
01:01:24,100 --> 01:01:24,700
way. 
But yeah. 

1087
01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:27,500
Act like it's yoga or act like 
it's Perry. 

1088
01:01:27,500 --> 01:01:34,300
It's the it's the guy who chose 
to prioritize that instead 

1089
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:37,100
completely to the point of 
abandoning everything else. 

1090
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,900
That's interesting. 
I feel like it's become like a 

1091
01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:44,800
Trope. 
Mmm, so the Beatles officially 

1092
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,100
broke. 
Up April, 10th 1970. 

1093
01:01:48,700 --> 01:01:52,600
Hmm. 
I know during the Apollo 13. 

1094
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:59,500
Yeah, I guess so. 
Early 1971, John was reading. 

1095
01:01:59,500 --> 01:02:03,600
Yoko's poetry book grapefruit 
which I haven't read by did see 

1096
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:08,300
in the book store the other day 
and uh, this is 21. 

1097
01:02:08,300 --> 01:02:13,500
Poem is titled tuna fish 
sandwich piece and the words in 

1098
01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:16,500
the poem say imagine. 
Thousand suns in the sky. 

1099
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:19,600
At the same time. 
Imagine clouds dripping and 

1100
01:02:19,607 --> 01:02:21,700
apparently like that same day he
wrote the song. 

1101
01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:26,500
Imagine oh Cubs exotic. 
She inspired it. 

1102
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,800
Yeah they had imagined on the 
mind just seem like there's 

1103
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:36,400
something a little half-baked 
about their art so maybe I just 

1104
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,100
don't get it. 
But that sounds like the fact 

1105
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:42,200
that you think that Paul is 
basically that does feel kind of

1106
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,800
basic. 
I know, I know, I don't know. 

1107
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:50,800
I mean imagine is a great song 
but yeah I do think you need all

1108
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,000
the you know when you look back 
at history or whatever you need 

1109
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,600
every piece. 
Yeah. 

1110
01:02:55,900 --> 01:03:01,100
So I mean rock music was still 
not that old. 

1111
01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:03,500
So maybe it doesn't seem too 
complicated. 

1112
01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:06,300
Just be like imagine. 
Yeah, but you know, you need 

1113
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:07,900
that stepping stone. 
That's true. 

1114
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,800
But yeah, I know I that's, I 
mean, this is why I'm sorry, 

1115
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,800
why? 
John isn't my favorite Well, 

1116
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:21,400
he's my least favorite Beatle 
because I don't like how he 

1117
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,700
would look down on things and I 
do I feel like I'm on a 

1118
01:03:24,700 --> 01:03:26,100
self-important. 
Mmm. 

1119
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:29,100
Yeah. 
And not a lot of self-awareness 

1120
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,300
but imagine is a great song. 
Yeah. 

1121
01:03:31,300 --> 01:03:33,700
A lot of his songs are great. 
No it's a great song but yeah 

1122
01:03:33,700 --> 01:03:35,100
it's like it is at the end of 
the day. 

1123
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:36,300
Simple message. 
Yeah. 

1124
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,300
And so if you're going to be 
criticizing Paul's music, I know

1125
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,200
like look at yourself. 
I mean that's a great song that 

1126
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,400
deep. 
Yeah, you know. 

1127
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,000
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1128
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,300
Everyone's getting along. 
Yeah. 

1129
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:53,700
So revolutionary, you know. 
So August 1971, John Yoko moved 

1130
01:03:53,700 --> 01:03:57,800
to New York and apparently John 
said, you could say I fell in 

1131
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,900
love with New York, on a street 
corner Yoko and I were forever 

1132
01:04:02,900 --> 01:04:05,000
coming going to New York. 
We love it. 

1133
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,200
It's a center of our world. 
America is the Roman Empire in 

1134
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,700
New York is Rome itself. 
New York is at my speed. 

1135
01:04:11,900 --> 01:04:14,000
New Yorkers are like me. 
They don't believe in wasting 

1136
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,000
time. 
Yeah. 

1137
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,200
Is interesting. 
And feel like he has become like

1138
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:22,400
a New York icon. 
Yeah, it's interesting there so 

1139
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,400
hippie to but they're actually 
living in a city. 

1140
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,400
Yeah, yeah. 
No. 

1141
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,500
I mean, Paul was actually the 
farmer guy. 

1142
01:04:29,500 --> 01:04:32,200
That's so interesting in 
Scotland. 

1143
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,100
Yeah. 
And look at animals and stuff 

1144
01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:38,500
and they lived. 
I mean, you can be a hippie in 

1145
01:04:38,508 --> 01:04:41,400
the city. 
Yeah, but yeah, they not this 

1146
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,700
point but they do eventually 
live at the Dakota, which is 

1147
01:04:44,700 --> 01:04:47,400
right on Central Park and that's
like it's really easy. 

1148
01:04:47,500 --> 01:04:53,300
Yeah. 
So they had like doorman, they 

1149
01:04:53,300 --> 01:04:57,000
liked the diverse atmosphere of 
New York and apparently their 

1150
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,700
interracial marriage didn't 
stand out as much as it did in 

1151
01:04:59,700 --> 01:05:01,200
English. 
Yeah, that makes sense. 

1152
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:06,200
Yeah, apparently they said that 
people were a lot more like, 

1153
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:12,100
racist towards them England, but
okay, this is crazy at this 

1154
01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:15,800
time. 1971, they didn't This is 
so bad. 

1155
01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:18,600
You didn't know where yoko's 
daughter was. 

1156
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,400
Are you serious? 
Yeah, wait. 

1157
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,600
Well they knew she was with the 
dad Anthony cock, but they don't

1158
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:24,600
know where they are. 
Yeah. 

1159
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,400
They didn't know where they are.
You looking for? 

1160
01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:29,900
Yeah, they were okay, um, I 
mean, I don't know how hard I'm 

1161
01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:32,700
really tired people. 
But like, apparently Cox 

1162
01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:35,200
disappeared with the 
eight-year-old daughter. 

1163
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:39,400
Kyoko and he won custody of her 
after successfully claiming 

1164
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,100
that. 
Oh no wasn't unfit. 

1165
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:47,900
Mother do her to her drug use. 
And He her ex-husband changed 

1166
01:05:47,900 --> 01:05:53,100
kilgore's name to Ruth Holman 
and he subsequently raised her 

1167
01:05:53,100 --> 01:05:57,000
in an organization known as 
Church of the Living World or 

1168
01:05:57,100 --> 01:06:00,400
the walk that doesn't look at 
called. 

1169
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:04,600
Yeah. 
And she didn't see her again 

1170
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,300
until 1998. 
Oh my God. 

1171
01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:10,900
I know that's really sad. 
That's Matt. 

1172
01:06:10,900 --> 01:06:14,200
That's like 20 years, right? 
She was a fully grown adult. 

1173
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,300
Yeah. 
She saw her daughter. 

1174
01:06:15,500 --> 01:06:19,500
I know from 8 years old. 
Oh my God, this story is just 

1175
01:06:19,500 --> 01:06:24,200
insane, that's crazy. 
You know, why would he do that? 

1176
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,000
The dad just like, because you 
got caught up in this church 

1177
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:33,400
guess so I don't know. 
He's, I mean until you get to 

1178
01:06:33,408 --> 01:06:36,300
that point, I am kind of like, 
oh yeah, well sounds like it's 

1179
01:06:36,300 --> 01:06:38,300
good that he got custody like 
sounds like she didn't mean 

1180
01:06:38,300 --> 01:06:42,100
she's doing drugs like yeah they
were in the walk. 

1181
01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:45,300
Yeah. 
Okay it's like more going on. 

1182
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:46,400
On there. 
Yeah. 

1183
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:47,900
Which we turn a light on. 
Yeah. 

1184
01:06:51,500 --> 01:06:54,400
Wait, let me get water. 
Hello break. 

1185
01:07:34,300 --> 01:07:39,200
You're gonna make the flight 
back to the story. 

1186
01:07:39,300 --> 01:07:42,300
Isn't this crazy so far? 
Yeah, this is crazy. 

1187
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,500
Okay, even the craziest part. 
So just to sum up like they're 

1188
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:50,800
both married, they get together,
they got arrested. 

1189
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:53,700
Stay. 
Did they sleep in bed for a 

1190
01:07:53,700 --> 01:07:58,000
whole week? 
They yeah, her daughter goes 

1191
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,900
missing. 
It's fucked up. 

1192
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:07,800
Cheers. 
Okay and it just keeps going. 

1193
01:08:07,900 --> 01:08:09,700
Are you ready? 
Yeah, I'm ready. 

1194
01:08:09,700 --> 01:08:15,600
Okay, so John's there in New 
York pajamas struggling to get a

1195
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:20,399
visa to stay in the US and FBI 
was stocking them. 

1196
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,899
Their phones were tapped. 
I wrote whole story. 

1197
01:08:23,899 --> 01:08:27,600
Oh I guess I just meant, there's
a whole story to it but I'm not 

1198
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,000
going to get in. 
What do you think? 

1199
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,700
What is the FBI? 
Like think they're connected to?

1200
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:37,700
I think that at this time the 
FBI just didn't like anyone 

1201
01:08:37,700 --> 01:08:43,800
inspiring, you know, like visual
or feminist Uprising that like a

1202
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,399
violation of like the first 
amendment. 

1203
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,399
That's why I was so fucked up. 
Yeah look into it. 

1204
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:52,100
It's crazy. 
It's awful. 

1205
01:08:52,100 --> 01:08:58,100
Um yeah so 1971 this is when 
their song happy Xmas Wars over 

1206
01:08:58,100 --> 01:08:59,800
came out. 
Mmm. 

1207
01:08:59,899 --> 01:09:03,500
Oh also like the Vietnam War. 
More like they didn't like 

1208
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,800
anybody inspiring, you know 
anti-war. 

1209
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,600
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1210
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:16,399
But like that's so anti-American
to be against anti-war way. 

1211
01:09:16,500 --> 01:09:22,000
It was Maybe still is. 
I'm gonna um, what is this? 

1212
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,500
Okay, - I need to interview 
around 11:00. 

1213
01:09:24,500 --> 01:09:26,300
All right, let's just, let's see
what this is. 

1214
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:32,000
Who would like to ask a question
of young firsthand, I saw. 

1215
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,100
Was that young lady right there?
Would you wait until the boom 

1216
01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:39,600
gets to eat, but would you mind 
standing well, I absolutely Like

1217
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,300
what? 
Like, in general, I'm going to 

1218
01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:46,500
like, like a lot of times people
say, in, about demonstrations 

1219
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:48,899
and all and like, how, like 
everybody should rush out and go

1220
01:09:48,899 --> 01:09:51,000
to demonstrations and 
everything, and it's going to 

1221
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,300
help, but I don't know if it 
really helps and I want to know,

1222
01:09:53,300 --> 01:09:56,400
like what I can do. 
Like me just personally like to 

1223
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:00,100
help people in like get better 
and like help the peace thing 

1224
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:03,000
and how how people in general 
Health, you know how I can do 

1225
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,300
it. 
It was urgent that. 

1226
01:10:05,300 --> 01:10:10,200
Did I think you know, we can all
do it but if we can't solve our 

1227
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,900
own personal problems, we Of a 
silver, big problem. 

1228
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,700
All we have to do is convince 
one person and that's all you 

1229
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:20,400
have to do. 
And if everybody convinced one 

1230
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,500
person, the whole world is going
to be convinced, you see, it's 

1231
01:10:23,500 --> 01:10:25,600
that simple. 
People tend to think that 

1232
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,400
somebody will say them whether 
it's a president or a you know, 

1233
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,200
whoever your hero might be 
somebody's going to come out the

1234
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,100
blue to save you. 
And there's only people can save

1235
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:37,600
us, only us all deciding to do 
something about anything, 

1236
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,400
whatever it is, just even making
that decision. 

1237
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,800
I want to do something is a star
The person that you're really 

1238
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,700
responsible to people around, 
you like your parents, which is 

1239
01:10:47,700 --> 01:10:51,300
the biggest, you know, problem. 
I thought it was don't live at 

1240
01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:54,900
home and your yes, but I mean 
you don't have to live with them

1241
01:10:54,900 --> 01:10:57,600
but in other words, people 
around you, you know, if you can

1242
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,900
start to convince people around 
you and if we all took care of 

1243
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,200
our friends around us, then the 
whole world would find, you 

1244
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,100
know, just want to show how they
do. 

1245
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:10,100
Ya know I think you'll go so 
sweet. 

1246
01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:13,300
It seems sweet, you know. 
It's a really sweet idea. 

1247
01:11:13,300 --> 01:11:16,500
I know you know just a little at
a time and then the whole rules 

1248
01:11:16,500 --> 01:11:21,000
of be a good player. 
Yeah I know she warms my heart. 

1249
01:11:21,300 --> 01:11:27,300
She's so beautiful too. 
So February 1973 things started 

1250
01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:31,600
to go downhill for them. 
Oh, their apartment was robbed. 

1251
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,900
They had no security in their 
Bohemian, Loft and John Social 

1252
01:11:35,900 --> 01:11:38,000
Circle in the village was not 
what it once. 

1253
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:43,400
Was, he felt taken advantage of 
Used by the yippies. 

1254
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:48,700
Oh God as he called them and the
night Nixon won the election. 

1255
01:11:48,700 --> 01:11:50,800
John Lennon. 
Just lost it. 

1256
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:56,800
Yeah, he got super drunk and 
high on cocaine and pills that 

1257
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:02,800
night and they went to a party 
and to everyone's shock in front

1258
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,100
of everybody, he took another 
woman into another room, but 

1259
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:10,000
when I feel go and they just 
started like hooking up and 

1260
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,300
about this Yoko said. 
She didn't come on to him at 

1261
01:12:13,300 --> 01:12:15,100
all. 
He just pulled her up and went 

1262
01:12:15,100 --> 01:12:16,800
in the next room and they were 
groping. 

1263
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,800
And all that and we were all 
quiet and someone tried to cover

1264
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,900
the noise. 
I playing a Bob, Dylan record. 

1265
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,900
Oh my God, my jaw is hanging 
open right now. 

1266
01:12:26,900 --> 01:12:31,100
I had no idea here. 
I am thinking he's like this 

1267
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:36,200
incredibly devoted guys in her 
know and that at least, okay. 

1268
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:40,600
Like, you know, he's abandoning 
his entire life to be with her 

1269
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,200
but at least he Loves her. 
Then he does this. 

1270
01:12:44,700 --> 01:12:47,900
That is so shitty. 
So annoying that it's like oh 

1271
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:52,100
because Nixon got elected yeah 
like control yours. 

1272
01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:55,200
No. 
Cause you did not need to do 

1273
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,400
that. 
And that's so not going with 

1274
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,400
what they just said like starts 
with you, you know, like just be

1275
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,200
good to everyone around. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1276
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,700
I'll raise yeah. 
Like oh, it's a form of protest.

1277
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,800
I'm gonna cheat on my wife like 
Just show it to Nixon. 

1278
01:13:13,900 --> 01:13:16,200
That's my point. 
You'll go. 

1279
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,300
It sounds like that was 
upsetting for her it was it was 

1280
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,900
so yeah people are playing Bob 
Dylan to cover up. 

1281
01:13:21,900 --> 01:13:25,400
The noise Yoko said we did it 
anyway. 

1282
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,400
I know right? 
I don't know what they're doing 

1283
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,200
is they're having sex or what 
the hell is going on? 

1284
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,900
We heard it anyway, and 
everybody had their coats in the

1285
01:13:31,900 --> 01:13:34,200
Next Room where John and this 
girl are making out. 

1286
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,900
Oh my God. 
So I guess there's no but still 

1287
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,600
so nobody can go home. 
Yoko said it was very 

1288
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,700
embarrassing. 
That's terrible. 

1289
01:13:42,300 --> 01:13:46,200
The fact that he would put her 
in that situation, he really 

1290
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,800
obviously doesn't respect her 
that much, it's insane. 

1291
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,100
It's insane, dude. 
And then we're gonna go get your

1292
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:55,000
coat. 
I don't want a party John. 

1293
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,800
This is the cheating on his 
wife. 

1294
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,000
I wonder who that woman is. 
I don't know. 

1295
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,200
I didn't really look into it but
it wasn't written. 

1296
01:14:04,300 --> 01:14:09,200
Yeah, the next day, John was 
remorseful Yoko, said, you need 

1297
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,700
to figure out how she felt. 
But because remember they got 

1298
01:14:13,700 --> 01:14:17,300
their apartment got robbed. 
Yeah, they got a call about an 

1299
01:14:17,300 --> 01:14:20,800
apartment that was open in the 
Dakota on Central Park and even 

1300
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,700
though this was like a weird 
time for them, they decided to 

1301
01:14:22,700 --> 01:14:25,800
go see it anyway and they liked 
that they had guards and 

1302
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,200
security. 
So they decided to move in. 

1303
01:14:29,300 --> 01:14:31,200
So about the incident at the 
party. 

1304
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,500
I'll go said that situation 
really woke me up. 

1305
01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:37,600
I thought, okay, we were so much
in love with each other and 

1306
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,400
that's why we sacrifice 
everything. 

1307
01:14:39,700 --> 01:14:43,200
My daughter, everything it Worth
it if we were totally in love 

1308
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,700
with each other, but if he wants
to make it with another girl or 

1309
01:14:45,700 --> 01:14:49,400
something, what am I doing? 
So Yoko decided they needed time

1310
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,200
apart and she said, I started to
notice that he became a little 

1311
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,300
restless so I thought it's 
better to give him a rest in me 

1312
01:14:56,300 --> 01:15:01,700
and rest. 
So she suggested that John goes 

1313
01:15:01,700 --> 01:15:05,700
to LA It's kind of funny. 
What's up with the people? 

1314
01:15:05,700 --> 01:15:11,900
Like I don't know, sending 
people, she suggested John goes 

1315
01:15:11,900 --> 01:15:14,200
to LA, and apparently, he lit 
up. 

1316
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:18,000
And she knew that John wasn't 
good on his own. 

1317
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:22,800
Mmm, this is the crazy part. 
So she set him up with her 

1318
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:29,000
assistant Mae ping to be a 20 
21, 22 year-old chinese-american

1319
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:33,400
woman from Spanish Harlem Yoko 
said May paying was very 

1320
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,400
intelligent Didn't attractive 
woman and extremely efficient. 

1321
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:40,700
I thought they'd be okay. 
So she set up John and may to be

1322
01:15:40,700 --> 01:15:44,600
romantically involved together. 
That is so odd. 

1323
01:15:47,900 --> 01:15:53,200
And and she was just fine with 
that like oh he's in. 

1324
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:57,300
She did it for you know if you 
love someone set them free. 

1325
01:15:57,300 --> 01:15:58,600
Yeah. 
For him to come back. 

1326
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,600
Yeah I believe so well because 
it worked right? 

1327
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:08,800
It's just nuts. 
I mean who doesn't like I know 

1328
01:16:09,100 --> 01:16:13,200
what if I got her pregnant? 
There's no there Mary? 

1329
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:18,700
I know. 
So summer in 1973 John and may 

1330
01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:24,500
flew to La, is he doing this 
town is crazy and they were 

1331
01:16:24,508 --> 01:16:27,200
there for a year and a half. 
Okay. 

1332
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,600
That's a long time, you know and
John referred to this time of 

1333
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:37,200
his life as his lost weekend 
which I thought literally 

1334
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,400
because I had heard of it I 
thought was literally a lot. 

1335
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,300
Yeah so did Charlie my boyfriend
who's like a huge Beetle Maniac?

1336
01:16:43,300 --> 01:16:45,400
He also thought it was literally
Weekend? 

1337
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,900
No, it's a year and a half. 
Yeah. 

1338
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:54,000
A year and a half of depression 
debauchery, but also creativity 

1339
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,300
productivity and fun described 
it. 

1340
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:08,400
If you chose the word weekend to
like really minimize that time 

1341
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:09,600
period. 
Because it's weird how like 

1342
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,500
that's not remembered in 
history. 

1343
01:17:11,500 --> 01:17:18,300
I know so crazy. 
So, for the first time, John 

1344
01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:22,100
Lennon was not defined as a 
Beatle nor the husband of Yoko 

1345
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:23,600
Ono. 
Hmm. 

1346
01:17:23,900 --> 01:17:27,300
I mean, I still think it's 
fucked up but I guess I can kind

1347
01:17:27,300 --> 01:17:30,800
of see this time being important
for him to like, figure out who 

1348
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:31,300
he is. 
Or what? 

1349
01:17:31,300 --> 01:17:32,700
Yeah. 
But why does it need to be with 

1350
01:17:32,700 --> 01:17:36,500
another woman? 
Like, I know, I know crazy. 

1351
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:42,100
So during this time he finished 
three solo albums and produced 

1352
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:46,200
two others for friends, And he 
became friends with Elton John 

1353
01:17:46,500 --> 01:17:51,100
mmm and he also fell into a 
group called The Hollywood 

1354
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:55,500
vampires, which was a drinking 
Club Last Man Standing kind of 

1355
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:58,300
thing. 
And in the club was Bernie 

1356
01:17:58,300 --> 01:18:03,800
taupin out in Spartan writing 
partner Islands, writing 

1357
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:08,700
partner, Keith Moon of the who 
Ringo was in it. 

1358
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:14,300
Nobody I know, and Micky dolenz 
of the monkeys so they're just A

1359
01:18:14,308 --> 01:18:18,100
drinking Club was owed. 
They literally were just 

1360
01:18:18,100 --> 01:18:19,600
drinking yet. 
Because what they did you guys 

1361
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:24,600
drink okay? 
Again, it's like if this time he

1362
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:31,600
was getting sober something and 
you know Changing, maybe he did,

1363
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,900
but it's just sounds like he's 
yeah, up to debauchery. 

1364
01:18:34,900 --> 01:18:37,600
I wonder if they wrote to each 
other and see it in contacts 

1365
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,300
during exam. 
Okay, they did. 

1366
01:18:39,700 --> 01:18:43,700
So, I was about to say that, 
that may paying found the phone 

1367
01:18:43,700 --> 01:18:48,500
calls from Yoko, becoming 
increasingly controlling MMA 

1368
01:18:48,500 --> 01:18:52,000
said first, they were directives
to keep our relationship quiet, 

1369
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,200
which is fine with me, then 
crisis mode, kicked into would 

1370
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,600
call in with instructions of 
what to say that she had thrown 

1371
01:18:58,600 --> 01:18:59,700
out. 
John she'd call. 

1372
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:03,700
Every day to remind us of what 
to say, one drama after another 

1373
01:19:03,900 --> 01:19:07,100
what to say to reporters. 
I guess so. 

1374
01:19:08,700 --> 01:19:12,200
I mean I do think that she's a 
right to be controlling, its her

1375
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,000
husband. 
Yeah. 

1376
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,700
And she, yes, a doctor 
situation. 

1377
01:19:14,700 --> 01:19:17,900
I know it's an odd situation. 
Yeah, it's crazy. 

1378
01:19:18,100 --> 01:19:20,800
Apparently. 
John and Yoko were in contact 

1379
01:19:20,900 --> 01:19:22,300
every day. 
Okay. 

1380
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,900
My phone multiple times a day. 
This is stupid. 

1381
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,300
I don't know why you didn't 
Buzz. 

1382
01:19:27,300 --> 01:19:29,600
So crazy. 
He just with me. 

1383
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:35,400
Me and poor may. 
I know why did she go along with

1384
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:36,600
it? 
Your situation. 

1385
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,400
I don't she's so young to know, 
Harrison. 

1386
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,300
She's 22. 
Mm-hmm. 

1387
01:19:43,300 --> 01:19:47,400
So I guess after a while you'll 
go, I mean, this is her idea but

1388
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,300
after a while she was started 
to, you know, not be happy with 

1389
01:19:50,300 --> 01:19:53,700
it anymore and she went to Paul 
McCartney. 

1390
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,300
Wow. 
And asked if you do her favor. 

1391
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:01,500
So Paul went to LA and told John
Yokota Back as long as he made 

1392
01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:05,600
an effort to court her. 
Mmm that's so sweet of Paul. 

1393
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:10,500
Again that to I have a quote 
from Paul he said no one ever no

1394
01:20:10,500 --> 01:20:14,600
one ever goes on about the time 
to John Hurt me when he called 

1395
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,400
my music, music people keep 
saying I hurt him but where I 

1396
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,300
think because of those doing 
things but where's the examples?

1397
01:20:21,300 --> 01:20:24,000
When did I do it? 
Nobody knows how much I helped. 

1398
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,900
John me and Linda went to 
California and talked him out of

1399
01:20:26,900 --> 01:20:29,600
his so called Lost weekend when 
he was full of drugs. 

1400
01:20:29,700 --> 01:20:32,600
You told him to go back to Yoko 
and not long after he did. 

1401
01:20:32,700 --> 01:20:36,100
I went all the way to LA to see 
that bastard, he never gave me 

1402
01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:39,500
an inch, but he gave, but he 
took so many yards and feet. 

1403
01:20:39,500 --> 01:20:45,400
Yeah, Paul also said, I have 
some juicy stuff I could tell 

1404
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,900
about John but I wouldn't not 
one yolk was alive or Cynthia. 

1405
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,400
Oh my God, John would Donald 
grab for the action? 

1406
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,100
See, the first thing in his 
head. 

1407
01:20:54,100 --> 01:20:58,700
We admired him for that. 
That's yeah. 

1408
01:20:58,700 --> 01:21:02,300
John really does seem to strike 
me as such a hypocrite like 

1409
01:21:02,300 --> 01:21:04,600
these things that he accuses 
people have. 

1410
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:09,000
It's like you're one to talk and
I love how Paul said, so-called 

1411
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:13,900
weekend year and a half. 
It is called the last year and a

1412
01:21:13,900 --> 01:21:18,700
half. 
I know it's like it is phony of 

1413
01:21:18,700 --> 01:21:22,800
him to say that. 
Yeah, he won't be honest. 

1414
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:29,600
You know, what he's doing with 
his life and Like really his 

1415
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,700
love for Yoko. 
Seems like a facade. 

1416
01:21:31,700 --> 01:21:35,000
Now that Paul has even go there 
and convince him to get back 

1417
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,300
with her. 
I know. 

1418
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,400
So John went back to New York 
but he was still with me. 

1419
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:43,500
Oh my God, he was staying with 
me. 

1420
01:21:43,700 --> 01:21:46,300
Oh my God. 
I know and John felt like he was

1421
01:21:46,300 --> 01:21:49,300
publicly out of favor at the 
moment and then the other 

1422
01:21:49,300 --> 01:21:52,900
Beatles had more solo hits. 
Paul had had three number-one 

1423
01:21:52,900 --> 01:21:56,500
hits in the US by then I guess 
all the Beatles. 

1424
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,900
At the Plaza Hotel, to sign 
papers to end their lawsuit. 

1425
01:22:00,500 --> 01:22:04,600
Um, but John, didn't show up and
he said, I didn't sign it, 

1426
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,100
because my astrologer told me it
wasn't the right date. 

1427
01:22:07,100 --> 01:22:11,600
Oh my God, the group was 
annoyed, and George invited him 

1428
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,300
to a charity show. 
Oh my God. 

1429
01:22:14,300 --> 01:22:17,700
That's so annoying. 
George is having a tough time at

1430
01:22:17,700 --> 01:22:19,900
that time, too? 
Because I really think this 

1431
01:22:19,900 --> 01:22:22,500
could be a good episode. 
His wife Patti had left him for 

1432
01:22:22,500 --> 01:22:24,300
his best friend. 
Eric Clapton. 

1433
01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:28,600
Oh my God. 
I don't even know who's best 

1434
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:39,000
friends with a group best friend
and so George, I really loved. 

1435
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:43,200
Eric Clapton like I almost feel 
like the way John feels about 

1436
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,400
yoga like, oh, there she is. 
Such an artist whatever. 

1437
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:49,700
Yeah, George felt. 
All right, that's terrible. 

1438
01:22:49,700 --> 01:22:53,800
You know, so Paul met up with 
John and made of smooth things 

1439
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,600
over, I guess. 
I don't know what that means but

1440
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,900
John and may then took Julian, 
who is now 11 to Florida and 

1441
01:23:00,900 --> 01:23:03,200
went to Disney World? 
Okay. 

1442
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:05,700
I don't know why I put that in 
there, but I think I thought was

1443
01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:07,300
interesting. 
Like I can't really picture 

1444
01:23:07,300 --> 01:23:09,800
someone that I know. 
I'm gonna guess. 

1445
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,200
It's sweet that he's doing 
something for Julian. 

1446
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,200
Yeah. 
So John start hanging out, David

1447
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,100
Bowie. 
At this time. 

1448
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:20,900
Fun fact, there's always 
producer. 

1449
01:23:20,900 --> 01:23:24,200
Tony Visconti later, married Mae
ping. 

1450
01:23:24,500 --> 01:23:28,900
Oh my God. 
I know everyone's okay, it's 

1451
01:23:28,900 --> 01:23:33,900
that, Invisible String? 
Yeah, without Yoko setting up. 

1452
01:23:33,900 --> 01:23:39,200
Yeah. 
May and John John and David 

1453
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,500
Bowie. 
Dave always produced, are ya, 

1454
01:23:42,500 --> 01:23:44,600
Mae ping. 
They would have never found each

1455
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,300
other. 
So it always almonds have. 

1456
01:23:46,300 --> 01:23:48,800
He's all meant to be. 
That's very nice. 

1457
01:23:48,900 --> 01:23:53,200
Yeah. 
Um, but okay, I guess seems 

1458
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,800
seems shady it seem like there's
maybe over Laughs or something 

1459
01:23:58,300 --> 01:24:03,000
because sometime in 1975 Yoko, 
became pregnant and Johnny Joker

1460
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,400
back together, okay? 
So I don't really know like how 

1461
01:24:06,700 --> 01:24:08,600
I'm sure some people out there. 
No, I'm sorry. 

1462
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,900
I don't have the information but
I don't know like what happened 

1463
01:24:10,900 --> 01:24:15,600
with him. 
Yeah, maybe she met Tony and but

1464
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,100
seems worthy this arrangement 
with may like it was never 

1465
01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:20,000
supposed to be long term. 
No. 

1466
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:25,100
Yeah, it seems like it was an 
arrangement and he overdid it. 

1467
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:27,900
Yeah. 
It's how I Receive it like it's 

1468
01:24:27,900 --> 01:24:29,700
like the TV show the ultimatum. 
I don't know. 

1469
01:24:29,700 --> 01:24:32,800
You haven't seen it but it's 
like they practice dating other 

1470
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,700
people in order to decide if 
they really want to be together 

1471
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,200
it seems like that's what Yoko 
was trying to set up. 

1472
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:40,800
Yeah. 
I think so but it wasn't really 

1473
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:41,800
working. 
No. 

1474
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,600
But now they're back together. 
Yoko's 42 at the time and since 

1475
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,700
she has had miscarriages in the 
past she was on bed, rest 

1476
01:24:50,700 --> 01:24:55,300
Malthus time and John took care 
of her like, push her around in 

1477
01:24:55,300 --> 01:24:59,000
a wheelchair and stuff. 
So, It's cute, he showed Yogo 

1478
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,900
his Los Angeles, diary that 
chronicled all the highs and 

1479
01:25:01,900 --> 01:25:05,100
lows during their separation, 
that was interesting, and then 

1480
01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:06,700
he burned it in the kitchen 
sink. 

1481
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:11,100
Okay. 
Very young creative. 

1482
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:13,700
Yeah, I mean, are you guys like 
that? 

1483
01:25:13,700 --> 01:25:16,000
Yeah, I'm mad. 
He did all that, but I think 

1484
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:20,700
that is a nice symbolic gesture.
Yeah, I think it's in the past 

1485
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,100
and shows transparency 
obviously. 

1486
01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:26,200
Yeah, your see everything, 
that's true. 

1487
01:25:26,700 --> 01:25:33,000
So then October 9th 1975 their 
son, Sean Taro, Lennon was born.

1488
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:36,200
Sean. 
And he's like a musician today. 

1489
01:25:36,700 --> 01:25:45,800
Beautiful, beautiful. 1977 both 
John and Yoko announced that 

1490
01:25:45,808 --> 01:25:49,100
they will be putting their 
careers on, hold to concentrate 

1491
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:51,600
on raising their son. 
Sean, that's sweet. 

1492
01:25:53,300 --> 01:25:58,200
So, they did, and then so I 
don't really have much 

1493
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:03,400
information, but then a couple 
years later, November 1980, they

1494
01:26:03,500 --> 01:26:06,600
John Yoko released an album 
together called Double Fantasy 

1495
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,700
and okay. 
Now we're like getting to the 

1496
01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:12,800
end here. 
I know I'm getting like really 

1497
01:26:13,100 --> 01:26:16,100
like scared and sad. 
It's scary. 

1498
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:23,400
So December 8th. 1980, John have
busy day him and Yoko had a 

1499
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:27,800
photoshoot interview, and they 
were working on their song 

1500
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:32,000
walking on thin ice. 
So, this is actually the day. 

1501
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,700
I don't know if you've seen it 
before but Johnny, okay. 

1502
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:37,300
We took their really famous 
Rolling Stone cover which is 

1503
01:26:37,900 --> 01:26:41,300
Yoko is lying there with clothes
on and he was like yeah. 

1504
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,900
That's the same day. 
He's not crazy with the day he 

1505
01:26:44,900 --> 01:26:47,000
died. 
Is my you serious? 

1506
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,600
Yes. 
Yeah. 

1507
01:26:48,700 --> 01:26:51,500
It's the same doesn't day. 
They shot that that's crazy. 

1508
01:26:51,500 --> 01:26:54,600
I know it's so weird. 
Not like, I know you were asked 

1509
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,800
me the other day about, like 
things that are, you know, seem 

1510
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:00,300
like things are connected the 
universe. 

1511
01:27:00,300 --> 01:27:01,600
There's a lot of things on this 
day. 

1512
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:05,500
That is very weird. 
Yeah, they shot the iconic 

1513
01:27:05,500 --> 01:27:09,100
Rolling Stone cover and you 
leave of its was a photographer.

1514
01:27:09,100 --> 01:27:11,500
She's very famous. 
It wasn't even printed yet that 

1515
01:27:11,700 --> 01:27:14,900
no thing cover. 
Um and apparently, John loved 

1516
01:27:14,900 --> 01:27:16,700
it. 
Like when they were taking it 

1517
01:27:16,700 --> 01:27:18,900
and said, this is it, this is 
our relationship. 

1518
01:27:18,900 --> 01:27:23,100
He loved the picture, then that 
same day, he was interviewed for

1519
01:27:23,100 --> 01:27:28,500
archeo radio, and the guy that 
interviewed him, Dave schoelen, 

1520
01:27:28,500 --> 01:27:31,000
well, Yoko is there to. 
Maybe she was interviewed to, 

1521
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,800
I'm not sure, but he said the 
eye contact between John yolk. 

1522
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,800
Was amazing. 
No words, had to be spoken. 

1523
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,200
They would just look at each 
other with intense connection. 

1524
01:27:39,900 --> 01:27:44,100
So during the interview, John 
reflected on how he'd recently, 

1525
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:47,400
turned 40 and was becoming 
middle-aged. 

1526
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:51,500
And he said, I hope I die before
you go, because if you go died, 

1527
01:27:51,500 --> 01:27:53,700
I wouldn't know how to survive. 
I couldn't carry on. 

1528
01:27:53,700 --> 01:27:58,700
That's so crazy that he said 
that, I know, the day he died, 

1529
01:27:58,700 --> 01:28:05,200
he said that it's not like oh my
gosh and he said, I always 

1530
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,900
considered my work one piece, 
whether it be with the Beatles, 

1531
01:28:07,900 --> 01:28:11,700
David Bowie, I'm John Yoko Ono. 
And I consider that my work 

1532
01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:14,200
won't be finished until I'm dead
and buried and I hope that's a 

1533
01:28:14,208 --> 01:28:17,600
long long time. 
Oh my God I know that's really 

1534
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,000
does make me think. 
Like sometimes things are just 

1535
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:24,100
so weird how they connect. 
And like I really truly think 

1536
01:28:24,100 --> 01:28:27,300
that like in real life like 
there's foreshadowing all the 

1537
01:28:27,300 --> 01:28:33,500
time and I know weird to not 
think that there's like 

1538
01:28:33,500 --> 01:28:36,400
something Greater going on. 
It's like, Joe. 

1539
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,500
It's like noon. 
A weird way. 

1540
01:28:39,500 --> 01:28:43,500
I know, like, what are the odds 
that day you'd say, like, I hope

1541
01:28:43,500 --> 01:28:45,500
I die before you go go. 
Yeah. 

1542
01:28:45,500 --> 01:28:51,100
See so after the interview, they
stepped outside and John was 

1543
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:54,000
looking at photographs from a 
shoot, with a photographer named

1544
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:59,500
Paul gorosh and that's when a 
fan Mark Chapman walked up and 

1545
01:28:59,500 --> 01:29:02,100
see Fish, Lee asked him to sign 
a record. 

1546
01:29:02,900 --> 01:29:07,000
And he wrote John Lennon 1980 on
the record and the photographer 

1547
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,000
actually took a picture. 
Oh my God. 

1548
01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:13,900
And it shows John with the fan, 
Mark Chapman and I guess John 

1549
01:29:13,900 --> 01:29:14,900
sighs out. 
Okay. 

1550
01:29:15,500 --> 01:29:19,400
And the fan Mark time I just 
like walked away and John turned

1551
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,800
back to Gorge with like a 
puzzled look and then I think 

1552
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,400
they'd gotten car and left so 
that same fan, Mark Chapman. 

1553
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:30,400
He stayed outside all day, 
outside the building, John and 

1554
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,500
Yoko, went to the studio to work
on their song. 

1555
01:29:32,700 --> 01:29:37,600
And then they stopped at home to
see Shawn before dinner at 10:45

1556
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:41,000
p.m. they stepped out of the car
outside of the Dakota. 

1557
01:29:41,500 --> 01:29:45,400
And that's when that fan, Mark, 
Chapman shot him five times. 

1558
01:29:45,500 --> 01:29:49,900
Oh my God, and apparently down 
the street at 135 Central Park 

1559
01:29:49,900 --> 01:29:54,300
West James, Taylor heard the 
gunshots and he leaned his head 

1560
01:29:54,300 --> 01:29:56,600
out of his window and said, I'm 
pretty sure that came from the 

1561
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,300
Dakota. 
Oh, my goodness. 

1562
01:29:59,500 --> 01:30:02,300
Interesting. 
Mel's been into him lately. 

1563
01:30:03,700 --> 01:30:07,800
So they were constantly like two
cops, really close by and they 

1564
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,500
just pulled up in their patrol 
car and put John in the car. 

1565
01:30:11,500 --> 01:30:16,200
And the officers asked if he was
John Lennon and he nodded his 

1566
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,900
chest was soaked in blood. 
You just taken to Roosevelt 

1567
01:30:19,900 --> 01:30:25,300
Hospital and Yoko is in the car.
Just stunned and silent and he 

1568
01:30:25,300 --> 01:30:28,800
arrived alive in the hospital 
but he died there. 

1569
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,400
And Yoko is swamp sobbing in the
arm of a police officer. 

1570
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,500
Oh my God. 
I have literally chills right 

1571
01:30:36,500 --> 01:30:38,700
now. 
I know it's crazy. 

1572
01:30:38,700 --> 01:30:42,200
And what are the odds to that? 
Like that fan had been 

1573
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:45,900
photographed? 
I know to so weird like that 

1574
01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:51,000
they could have the evidence. 
Yeah, I regretfully like I 

1575
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,900
actually don't know a lot about 
John Lennon's murder and like 

1576
01:30:54,900 --> 01:30:59,000
why the fan? 
I'll tell you I have information

1577
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:02,100
about it but apparently when 
they the doctors were working on

1578
01:31:02,100 --> 01:31:04,900
John, And they were playing like
Beatles music over the sound 

1579
01:31:04,900 --> 01:31:10,600
system, like All My Loving o 
sweet when John was declared 

1580
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:14,000
dead. 
Jaune, Tom, when John was 

1581
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,100
declared dead Yoko, said he 
can't be dead. 

1582
01:31:16,100 --> 01:31:18,700
He was just alive. 
Apparently, she collapsed and 

1583
01:31:18,700 --> 01:31:21,000
then banged her head repeatedly 
on the floor. 

1584
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:25,300
That's awful. 
It's so sad. 

1585
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:30,300
I guess on TV ABC was 
broadcasting. 

1586
01:31:30,300 --> 01:31:33,300
The final minutes of a matchup 
between In the New England, 

1587
01:31:33,300 --> 01:31:35,900
Patriots, Miami Dolphins. 
I'm just kind of right now but I

1588
01:31:35,907 --> 01:31:38,600
just thought it interesting and 
there's a less than a minute to 

1589
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,500
go on the clock but they 
interrupted the game to announce

1590
01:31:41,500 --> 01:31:44,900
an unspeakable tragedy confirm 
To Us by ABC news in New York 

1591
01:31:44,900 --> 01:31:47,400
City, John Lennon outside of his
apartment. 

1592
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,800
Building on the west side of New
York City, the most famous, 

1593
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:53,600
perhaps of all the Beatles shot 
twice in the back, rest to rush 

1594
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,100
to Roosevelt Hospital Dead on 
Arrival. 

1595
01:31:56,100 --> 01:31:58,900
Oh my God, I can't imagine what 
it was like to be watching that.

1596
01:31:58,900 --> 01:32:01,800
I know time. 
That would be insane. 

1597
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,900
And it's just Don't care. 
Like the end of the game was 

1598
01:32:03,900 --> 01:32:05,600
playing. 
They're just like yeah, it 

1599
01:32:05,608 --> 01:32:07,300
doesn't matter. 
Yeah. 

1600
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,700
So apparently like Mark Chapman 
after he shot. 

1601
01:32:12,700 --> 01:32:14,900
He even give him attention. 
But, you know, it is. 

1602
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:16,900
You wonder like, why did he do 
that? 

1603
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,000
Um, I know about The Catcher in 
the Rye. 

1604
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:23,100
Yeah. 
The cops asked? 

1605
01:32:23,100 --> 01:32:26,400
Do you realize what you just did
and he said yeah, I just killed 

1606
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:28,300
myself. 
I am John Lennon. 

1607
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,200
Very creepy that is so creepy. 
I know. 

1608
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:37,400
So, apparently he was angry that
John would we kind of said 

1609
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,200
earlier that? 
He would like preach love and 

1610
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,300
peace. 
Yeah and millions of dollars. 

1611
01:32:42,500 --> 01:32:45,900
Chapman said, he told us to 
imagine no possessions and there

1612
01:32:45,900 --> 01:32:49,300
he was with millions of dollars 
and Yachts and farms and Country

1613
01:32:49,300 --> 01:32:52,800
Estates laughing at people, like
me who had believed in the lies 

1614
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,500
and bought the records and built
a big part of their lives around

1615
01:32:55,500 --> 01:32:58,400
the music. 
He also recalled having listened

1616
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,800
to Lennon solo music in the 
weeks before the murder. 

1617
01:33:02,700 --> 01:33:05,700
And he said, I would listen to 
this music and I would get angry

1618
01:33:05,700 --> 01:33:09,900
at him for saying, in the song 
God that he didn't believe in 

1619
01:33:09,900 --> 01:33:13,200
God, that he just believed in 
him and you, Go and he didn't 

1620
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:15,600
believe in the beetles that this
was another thing. 

1621
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,700
That angered me, even though 
this Becker had been done at 

1622
01:33:17,700 --> 01:33:20,500
least 10 years previously, I 
just wanted to scream out loud 

1623
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:23,700
who does he think he is saying 
these things about God and 

1624
01:33:23,700 --> 01:33:26,300
having in the Beatles saying 
that he doesn't believe in Jesus

1625
01:33:26,300 --> 01:33:28,900
and things like that. 
That point my mind was going 

1626
01:33:28,900 --> 01:33:30,800
through a total Blackness of 
anger and rage. 

1627
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,200
So I brought the Lenin book home
into this Catcher in the Rye 

1628
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,700
milieu where my mindset is 
Holden Caulfield and anti 

1629
01:33:37,700 --> 01:33:40,100
phoniness. 
Because yeah, if you guys 

1630
01:33:40,100 --> 01:33:43,200
haven't read Catcher in the Rye 
like Holden is. 

1631
01:33:44,500 --> 01:33:47,500
So disturbed by phoniness in the
world. 

1632
01:33:47,500 --> 01:33:49,500
He hates phonies. 
Yeah. 

1633
01:33:49,500 --> 01:33:53,100
Like - and I always thought 
like, oh, I mean, it's weird, 

1634
01:33:53,100 --> 01:33:56,400
like JD Salinger how much I must
suck that. 

1635
01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:00,700
Like, I know, accidentally 
inspired this. 

1636
01:34:00,700 --> 01:34:02,900
You know what I mean? 
Yeah, I'm tingling Beatles, like

1637
01:34:02,900 --> 01:34:08,000
The White Album unintentionally.
Inspiring Charles Manson to 

1638
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:09,800
murder. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1639
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,600
I mean but honestly, as soon as 
I do, wonder if people would 

1640
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:16,500
have found a way anyway. 
Give that's just an excuse but 

1641
01:34:16,500 --> 01:34:19,900
also I think of like Qatar in 
the right. 

1642
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:23,500
I've been so long since I read 
that but isn't the phoniness 

1643
01:34:23,500 --> 01:34:27,800
kind of like like a Holden's 
entire personality. 

1644
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,800
Just A coping mechanism to deal 
with the fact that like he's 

1645
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,500
like in deep grief over the loss
of his brother. 

1646
01:34:33,500 --> 01:34:36,000
Yeah. 
Yeah I mean it's like total 

1647
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:40,600
misreading. 
I think it's like just insane 

1648
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:41,600
that that's the message you 
would. 

1649
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:46,000
Yeah exactly kill people. 
Yeah, not at all. 

1650
01:34:46,100 --> 01:34:48,500
Oh what was the point of the 
book every day? 

1651
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,900
Yeah, this guy sounds like an 
idiot and crazy. 

1652
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:56,100
Yeah, he was obviously insane. 
So what so did he just ask for 

1653
01:34:56,100 --> 01:34:58,700
an autograph to like, add like 
more? 

1654
01:34:58,700 --> 01:35:02,000
I don't know. 
I mean, maybe he thought, maybe 

1655
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,700
he's said this. 
Like, I'm sorry, I don't have 

1656
01:35:03,700 --> 01:35:05,300
the information, but maybe he 
thought. 

1657
01:35:05,300 --> 01:35:10,500
Like he wanted to change his 
mind or something or like he was

1658
01:35:10,500 --> 01:35:14,400
a huge fan. 
But yeah, also wanted to Tell me

1659
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:18,800
like it's just bizarre. 
That's so sad and I feel like my

1660
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:22,600
heart is broken for yoga. 
I think of like I don't know 

1661
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,200
when you ever have a nightmare 
something and something terrible

1662
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:28,600
happens and you like get a 
do-over by waking up and like 

1663
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:34,900
she like, I know, instant their 
entire life and change, it's so 

1664
01:35:34,900 --> 01:35:37,200
sad. 
I mean, she was an artist and 

1665
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:41,700
musician to and stuff, but like 
I feel like John was her life in

1666
01:35:41,700 --> 01:35:45,000
a big way, like So much of her 
life was John. 

1667
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:49,500
Yeah, it's just insane and they 
have their little boy like and 

1668
01:35:49,500 --> 01:35:54,200
he was so young, right? 
Yeah, he was apparently he woke 

1669
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,300
up to reporters outside his 
home. 

1670
01:35:56,700 --> 01:36:01,300
He knew something had happened 
and Ringo called his ex-wife. 

1671
01:36:01,300 --> 01:36:05,500
Cynthia to tell her what 
happened, oh my God, apparently 

1672
01:36:05,500 --> 01:36:08,400
Mark Chapman had planned for 
months months to do it. 

1673
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:12,700
Like it was really premeditated 
and he also had planned to kill 

1674
01:36:12,700 --> 01:36:14,900
Paul. 
Me Johnny, Carson. 

1675
01:36:14,900 --> 01:36:17,400
Those are the Taylor. 
Jackie Kennedy, girl, Reagan and

1676
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,700
a few others. 
Oh my God. 

1677
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:22,600
How does he thinks gonna do all?
I know, I guess. 

1678
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:24,500
Like we do one big pot. 
You idiot. 

1679
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:30,400
You're just not giving advice 
but like how did he think 

1680
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,900
shooting him in front of people?
He was gonna be able to then do 

1681
01:36:33,900 --> 01:36:36,200
a bunch of other celebrity. 
Yeah, that's crazy. 

1682
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,000
It's just insane. 
They do say that because like, 

1683
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,800
you know, how he said I killed 
myself, did you say a lot of 

1684
01:36:41,808 --> 01:36:44,900
people that do stuff like this? 
If they are like suicidal. 

1685
01:36:44,900 --> 01:36:45,900
Mmm. 
Yeah. 

1686
01:36:45,900 --> 01:36:48,300
Because obviously, you don't 
really care what happens to you 

1687
01:36:48,300 --> 01:36:52,700
after that, it's fucked up, 
weird thing to how I said, James

1688
01:36:52,700 --> 01:36:56,100
Taylor like heard it and she 
apparently, the day before this 

1689
01:36:56,100 --> 01:37:00,100
happened, Mark Chapman accosted 
James Taylor on the 72nd, Street

1690
01:37:00,100 --> 01:37:04,900
subway station, that's so we I 
know Taylor said the guy had 

1691
01:37:04,900 --> 01:37:07,600
sort of pin me to the wall. 
Almost glistening with manacle 

1692
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,700
sweat, and talking, some freak, 
speak about who's going to do 

1693
01:37:10,700 --> 01:37:13,100
and his stuff with how John was 
in. 

1694
01:37:13,300 --> 01:37:15,800
Didn't I was going to get in 
touch with John Lennon. 

1695
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:22,100
That is crazy. 
You know, I know I mean we live 

1696
01:37:22,100 --> 01:37:25,600
in New York City and I never see
celebrities so rarely, so 

1697
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:30,100
someone, yeah. 
Sorry, wrong, you saw Shailene 

1698
01:37:30,100 --> 01:37:34,700
Woodley, but that's crazy. 
You know that like days apart? 

1699
01:37:34,700 --> 01:37:36,600
I think he was just like hanging
out. 

1700
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:38,900
Mmm. 
Like doing nothing. 

1701
01:37:38,900 --> 01:37:40,900
Just on the street. 
Waiting to see people. 

1702
01:37:40,900 --> 01:37:48,000
Yeah, that makes sense. 
So yeah, it you know that's how 

1703
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:50,800
John Nichols wasn't intended. 
It's very sad. 

1704
01:37:51,700 --> 01:37:56,400
Since then mean you don't, 
you'll go still makes music. 

1705
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:59,000
She still does a lot of things. 
I actually don't know anything 

1706
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,900
about like her love life. 
I didn't look into it. 

1707
01:38:01,900 --> 01:38:04,900
I should have but well like we 
said, we have tunnel vision. 

1708
01:38:04,900 --> 01:38:07,200
Yeah. 
It's couples just about them. 

1709
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:12,900
You know, we're not doing their 
whole all the relationships, but

1710
01:38:13,300 --> 01:38:17,100
She's she still has like the 
same philosophy of seem piece 

1711
01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:19,500
thing. 
She's on Twitter now. 

1712
01:38:19,500 --> 01:38:23,000
And in this year, June 18th, I 
just found this random tweet, 

1713
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,100
but I thought it was just kind 
of like Charming that she's like

1714
01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:29,600
this name because she tweeted 
change will happen. 

1715
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,900
Don't try to use World changer, 
head World. 

1716
01:38:31,900 --> 01:38:34,800
Peace will instantly ran over us
as we change our heads, and it 

1717
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,500
will be done. 
You don't even have to lift our 

1718
01:38:36,500 --> 01:38:38,200
fingers. 
We just use our wits, which is 

1719
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:41,200
all we had. 
She's so sweet. 

1720
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:46,000
She is. 
And she she's done a lot of like

1721
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,400
philanthropic work sheet from of
topic work. 

1722
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:53,400
She funded the strawberry Field 
section in Central Park. 

1723
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:56,300
Oh wow. 
She founded the Imagine peace 

1724
01:38:56,300 --> 01:39:00,400
Tower and Iceland which guess 
I'm going to see because I'm 

1725
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,600
fine, I'm going to Iceland Zoom.
Yeah, it's like this these beams

1726
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:06,700
of light that shines in the air 
but it's actually run on 

1727
01:39:06,700 --> 01:39:09,800
geothermal power. 
So it's like eco-friendly and it

1728
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,500
has Pete. 
Imagine piece written in like 

1729
01:39:12,700 --> 01:39:16,200
everything. 
She's donated to many Charities,

1730
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:19,300
like disaster relief in Japan 
and the Philippines. 

1731
01:39:19,300 --> 01:39:23,400
And every other year, fifty 
thousand dollar, grant for 

1732
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:29,300
peace, she co-founded the group 
Artists Against fracking and yet

1733
01:39:29,300 --> 01:39:32,200
she continues to make music of 
yoga. 

1734
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,300
Oh no. 
Paul McCartney said. 

1735
01:39:34,300 --> 01:39:37,900
I thought she was a cold woman. 
I think that's wrong. 

1736
01:39:37,900 --> 01:39:40,600
She's just the opposite. 
I think she's just more 

1737
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,000
determined the most people to be
herself. 

1738
01:39:44,700 --> 01:39:48,400
That's really sweet. 
It seems like they are in 

1739
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:49,900
contact with each other. 
If I'm not me. 

1740
01:39:49,900 --> 01:39:51,200
Yeah. 
I think they are. 

1741
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,900
They are they did have like a 
TIF I mean I don't know I feel 

1742
01:39:54,900 --> 01:39:59,000
bad that I just had this very 
nice thing and then because two 

1743
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:04,000
years after that oh no. 
Oh publicly compared John Lennon

1744
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,800
to Wolfgang? 
Amadeus Mozart. 

1745
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:10,800
And then she said Paul McCartney
was more like his last talented 

1746
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:12,900
Bible. 
Antonio salieri. 

1747
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:17,700
And this infuriated Paul 
McCartney's wife Linda yeah 

1748
01:40:17,700 --> 01:40:20,400
who's dying from France breast 
cancer all the time and when 

1749
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:23,900
Linda died McCartney did not 
invite. 

1750
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:29,400
Yo go to the memorial service. 
Yeah I mean it's fine. 

1751
01:40:29,900 --> 01:40:34,100
It's sad it's always a little 
drama but I do think that I 

1752
01:40:34,100 --> 01:40:39,100
think that Yoko and Ringo and 
Paul are like on good terms and 

1753
01:40:39,100 --> 01:40:41,000
they do talk and stuff. 
Yeah. 

1754
01:40:41,900 --> 01:40:45,100
And I know Paul's tried to have 
like a relationship with her and

1755
01:40:45,100 --> 01:40:48,300
there's like this whole story 
about how she at first said, 

1756
01:40:48,300 --> 01:40:52,100
like I don't because he 
contacted her and said like I 

1757
01:40:52,100 --> 01:40:54,800
would think John would want us 
to still be in each other's 

1758
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,600
lives. 
Yeah she said something like I 

1759
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,400
don't want your pity like you 
shouldn't call me just because 

1760
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,900
you feel like you should and 
then he's was like you're right.

1761
01:41:04,300 --> 01:41:08,300
Um but I would like to be in 
your life and so I think they 

1762
01:41:08,300 --> 01:41:11,400
are. 
It sounds like Paul he's like oh

1763
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:14,600
Is going out of his way to do 
things for John's. 

1764
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:19,800
Even still like know I love and 
he really cares about not just 

1765
01:41:20,100 --> 01:41:23,200
dumb but like the people that 
like mad to John. 

1766
01:41:23,300 --> 01:41:27,100
Hmm like his kids yeah. 
Like even like I've seen a cover

1767
01:41:27,100 --> 01:41:30,900
of like I'm seeing beautiful 
boys and getting all choked up. 

1768
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:37,100
Also I have to say I guess Yoko 
had kind of a difficult 

1769
01:41:37,100 --> 01:41:42,300
relationship with Julian. 
Mmm, John's son with Cynthia but

1770
01:41:42,300 --> 01:41:45,500
their relationship has improved 
over the years. 

1771
01:41:45,500 --> 01:41:47,800
I guess. 
Jillian was like disappointed 

1772
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:51,700
about her. 
Oh, her handling of Lenin's of 

1773
01:41:51,700 --> 01:41:56,900
State because apparently he was 
left out of his father's will. 

1774
01:41:56,900 --> 01:41:58,500
That's awful. 
You know, and I don't know how 

1775
01:41:58,500 --> 01:42:00,500
that happened. 
Yeah, it's not have one or 

1776
01:42:00,508 --> 01:42:01,800
something. 
I don't know how that happened, 

1777
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,900
but he battled Yogo in court for
years. 

1778
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:10,200
Oh my God, I'm in 1996 for an 
unspecified amount which the 

1779
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:14,100
media reported was believed to 
be in the area of 20 million 

1780
01:42:14,100 --> 01:42:18,000
pounds, which Julian has denied.
So I don't know. 

1781
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:24,700
And he also said, Julian said, 
dad gave up music for a couple 

1782
01:42:24,700 --> 01:42:27,300
of years to be with Sean. 
Why couldn't he do that with me?

1783
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:30,900
Yeah, I'd imagine. 
That is so heartbreaking. 

1784
01:42:30,900 --> 01:42:34,100
It's sad. 
I mean there's a lot that goes 

1785
01:42:34,100 --> 01:42:36,600
into it though. 
I Obviously, John was younger 

1786
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:38,700
when he had Julian. 
I'm not giving making that an 

1787
01:42:38,700 --> 01:42:40,700
excuse me. 
Like usually people. 

1788
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:42,900
Yeah. 
And he was still in the beetle. 

1789
01:42:42,900 --> 01:42:46,100
Yeah. 
Exactly probably wasn't gonna do

1790
01:42:46,100 --> 01:42:49,600
that. 
It is really sad but obviously 

1791
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:53,400
he found probably a maturity 
later on had nothing to do with 

1792
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:57,400
Julian but that's heartbreaking 
and it's kind of not a good look

1793
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,300
on Yoko. 
That like, why is she even 

1794
01:42:59,300 --> 01:43:02,000
battling with Julie? 
I know like I feel like if I was

1795
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,900
in her situation and be like 
this is John son. 

1796
01:43:04,900 --> 01:43:10,600
I Him to be taken care of. 
And I would hope that John would

1797
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:15,200
have wanted Julian to have no 
some money as well. 

1798
01:43:15,300 --> 01:43:16,700
I don't know what her argument 
would. 

1799
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,300
Ya look into it? 
Maybe she felt like some of it 

1800
01:43:19,300 --> 01:43:22,300
was hers or something because 
she did albums with him like I 

1801
01:43:22,308 --> 01:43:27,900
do. 
As of a couple of years ago, I 

1802
01:43:27,900 --> 01:43:30,100
don't know if she's still does, 
but maybe she does. 

1803
01:43:30,100 --> 01:43:33,100
She still lived or lives in 
Dakota? 

1804
01:43:33,300 --> 01:43:38,400
Oh, where he was shot outside. 
I had no idea but she said 

1805
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:41,000
something like that was our 
home. 

1806
01:43:41,300 --> 01:43:45,000
Only John like she didn't want 
to leave it today. 

1807
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,700
It said that she's withdrawn 
from public life but she does 

1808
01:43:48,700 --> 01:43:51,700
still make someone parents. 
Yeah, I think I've seen her. 

1809
01:43:52,100 --> 01:43:53,900
She makes like dance music 
today. 

1810
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:57,000
Oh, She must be really old 
though. 

1811
01:43:57,100 --> 01:43:59,400
Yeah, she's 89. 
Wow. 

1812
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,800
And, um, her son. 
Sean makes music today. 

1813
01:44:03,300 --> 01:44:05,300
He's on a song with Lana Del 
Rey. 

1814
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,500
He looks a lot like, John that 
he does, and it's usually it's 

1815
01:44:09,500 --> 01:44:12,300
just like him too. 
Yeah, I know makes me sad. 

1816
01:44:12,300 --> 01:44:16,600
She's 89. 
You know, like how much time 

1817
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,700
looks really good for her age, 
she does she does. 

1818
01:44:20,300 --> 01:44:26,600
So that's basically what I have.
That's ano KO Z. 

1819
01:44:26,700 --> 01:44:30,800
I feel like I learned so much me
to it's correct. 

1820
01:44:31,300 --> 01:44:34,300
It's so dramatic. 
Yeah, it's crazy. 

1821
01:44:34,300 --> 01:44:38,500
It's so sad. 
Do you think if he was alive 

1822
01:44:38,500 --> 01:44:43,400
today, they'd still be together?
I, I do kind, I mean, I don't 

1823
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,400
know it's tough to say but the 
journey would have been like if 

1824
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,100
they would have just been 
together this whole entire time 

1825
01:44:48,100 --> 01:44:52,100
with absolutely no more drama or
whatever, but I don't know, I 

1826
01:44:52,100 --> 01:44:54,200
can't really picture them both 
being like a live in the 

1827
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:56,100
Together in a way. 
I agree. 

1828
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:58,300
I mean, it's an unfair question 
for sure. 

1829
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:00,700
It's probably a little 
offensive. 

1830
01:45:02,700 --> 01:45:06,900
Sorry. 
But I do think they really seem 

1831
01:45:06,900 --> 01:45:09,400
like, I think they really did 
deeply loved each other. 

1832
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:15,900
I don't know what the weekend 
was last weekend. 

1833
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:20,800
I don't know. 
I I mean they were in contact 

1834
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:22,000
the whole time. 
Yes. 

1835
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,800
I don't I don't think John ever 
Stopped Loving Her. 

1836
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:27,300
Hmm. 
But it seemed like he had 

1837
01:45:27,300 --> 01:45:29,600
issues. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1838
01:45:29,700 --> 01:45:33,200
Very, very intense love for each
other. 

1839
01:45:35,300 --> 01:45:37,600
That's true. 
Do you think they were a love at

1840
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,700
first sight upon meeting in that
art gallery. 

1841
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,400
I kind of think they were. 
Yeah, they were. 

1842
01:45:43,700 --> 01:45:46,600
Wow, your site. 
When you think about it, too. 

1843
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:51,100
It's like I mean this is why 
life I think is so magical like 

1844
01:45:51,100 --> 01:45:53,900
this. 
You know, was that their manager

1845
01:45:53,900 --> 01:45:56,700
just arranged for them to go? 
Yes. 

1846
01:45:56,700 --> 01:45:57,800
A little event. 
Yeah. 

1847
01:45:57,800 --> 01:45:59,600
They didn't even know why they 
were going. 

1848
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:01,400
Yeah. 
It's like that's like fate. 

1849
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,700
You know, it's like something 
just brings you somewhere where 

1850
01:46:03,700 --> 01:46:06,400
you're supposed to be at the 
exact right time for a memo. 

1851
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:10,100
The person that you're going to 
fall in love with, it's crazy. 

1852
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:14,300
It's interesting. 
Now when you listen to music you

1853
01:46:14,300 --> 01:46:15,900
can think about all this. 
Yeah. 

1854
01:46:17,500 --> 01:46:23,100
Give you some perspective. 
Resin piece John mmm wasn't 

1855
01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:28,000
three hours. 
One hour 52 right right I'm shy.

1856
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:31,200
No just flew through. 
Oh my god. 

1857
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:34,800
Well when I record an episode 
and not the next one with the 

1858
01:46:34,808 --> 01:46:35,600
one after that. 
Yeah. 

1859
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,500
Can I say what it is? 
I think that will still be three

1860
01:46:38,500 --> 01:46:42,400
hours, I'm excited. 
I hope not. 

1861
01:46:42,500 --> 01:46:48,100
But so we have a fun one 
planned, for our next episode. 

1862
01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:51,100
30. 
And Kelly is also in the 

1863
01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:53,000
driver's seat for that. 
Yep. 

1864
01:46:53,100 --> 01:46:56,200
Do you want it? 
Give a tease of what that one 

1865
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:58,700
will be. 
Oh gosh, I didn't I didn't think

1866
01:46:58,700 --> 01:47:02,600
of anything. 
Um, this is a relationship from 

1867
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:09,700
the 90s, And not a lot is known 
about it. 

1868
01:47:11,100 --> 01:47:14,300
But everyone knows a song about 
it. 

1869
01:47:15,300 --> 01:47:18,100
That might be different way too 
much a little obvious. 

1870
01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:21,000
Okay, so I say, no, let's keep 
that. 

1871
01:47:21,900 --> 01:47:24,600
I'm sure there's a few people 
who don't get it. 

1872
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:29,200
Yeah, probably. 
Yeah, I'm excited on peeps. 

1873
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,700
Listening. 
Huh. 

1874
01:47:31,700 --> 01:47:34,400
Wow. 
My first episode lot 

1875
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:37,000
information. 
Yeah but it was so much fun. 

1876
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:43,000
I know I didn't know so much and
I didn't know any of that 

1877
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:48,200
teaching stuff. 
No, I just crazy Diamond. 

1878
01:47:48,700 --> 01:47:52,700
I still haven't been to the 
Central Park, like the Imagine 

1879
01:47:52,700 --> 01:47:53,800
thing. 
Oh yeah. 

1880
01:47:53,900 --> 01:47:57,200
I've been there once before. 
Is that near the Dakota think 

1881
01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:59,500
it's okay. 
Mystics. 

1882
01:47:59,500 --> 01:48:02,700
I've like been in that area but 
yeah, I'm do it. 

1883
01:48:02,700 --> 01:48:06,500
I was also thinking as well 
until I go back to it, but the 

1884
01:48:06,500 --> 01:48:09,500
idea of yoga still living in the
building, all those years that 

1885
01:48:09,500 --> 01:48:12,100
must have been really traumatic.
Actually, just still walk 

1886
01:48:12,100 --> 01:48:15,100
outside. 
I know where he died. 

1887
01:48:15,100 --> 01:48:16,700
Yeah. 
Well I guess he didn't die there

1888
01:48:16,700 --> 01:48:20,300
where he was shot. 
Mmm, that'd be really scary. 

1889
01:48:22,500 --> 01:48:26,800
I don't know how she got through
that and maybe I guess, like, 

1890
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:30,700
just continuing to live there, 
like, desensitize is her to it 

1891
01:48:30,900 --> 01:48:33,700
rather than like, if she were to
leave and come back. 

1892
01:48:33,700 --> 01:48:37,500
Yeah, true maybe. 
Hmm. 

1893
01:48:37,500 --> 01:48:40,400
I remember because I studied 
abroad in London, my friend 

1894
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:45,300
Lisa. 
And I went to their apartment in

1895
01:48:45,308 --> 01:48:49,700
London and we stood outside of 
it and played happy Xmas War's 

1896
01:48:49,700 --> 01:48:54,300
over outloud interested. 
And we went to Liverpool to, 

1897
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,200
hey, Lisa. 
If you're listening, it's funny 

1898
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:00,400
because I feel like I'm such a 
bigger Beatles fan now than I 

1899
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:02,900
was when I went to Liverpool. 
Yeah. 

1900
01:49:02,900 --> 01:49:04,900
Like I didn't even know anything
when I went there. 

1901
01:49:04,900 --> 01:49:07,200
Yeah. 
I feel like you have become such

1902
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:08,900
a bigger fan, the past few 
years. 

1903
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:12,200
I have, I wanted to like I 
remember being like, Oh, I wanna

1904
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:14,200
get some books but I don't want 
to learn more. 

1905
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:17,700
And then I like finally did. 
Yeah, Charlie's would get into 

1906
01:49:17,700 --> 01:49:20,900
them so that helps I don't love 
that Christmas song. 

1907
01:49:20,900 --> 01:49:24,600
Happy Xmas. 
Oh really Yeah, you know, I 

1908
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:36,900
prefer it actually to Simply. 
Oh Paul's it makes me think of 

1909
01:49:36,900 --> 01:49:45,400
like the shoe department being a
man, know how creative you have 

1910
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:46,700
to be to come up with a new 
grid. 

1911
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,700
Oh, I know catches on, I wish 
you'd Sean, my brother and I 

1912
01:49:49,700 --> 01:49:51,500
were actually saying this the 
other day, if you write a 

1913
01:49:51,500 --> 01:49:57,100
Christmas You are set for life 
like it will play every single 

1914
01:49:57,100 --> 01:49:59,400
year. 
It's not that easy. 

1915
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,900
No, because a lot of the hits 
have been around forever. 

1916
01:50:02,900 --> 01:50:04,600
Yeah. 
New ones people make. 

1917
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:08,600
They just don't stick know, I 
would say the most recent one to

1918
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:13,400
stick was is Kelly Clarkson's 
one that's like I don't even 

1919
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,200
know if I know that. 
Okay. 

1920
01:50:15,300 --> 01:50:18,700
I can't think of Melody or the 
lyrics right now but I know she 

1921
01:50:18,700 --> 01:50:21,700
has it. 
It's like a done Anna. 

1922
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:25,500
I don't know the song. 
You know what I mean? 

1923
01:50:25,700 --> 01:50:30,000
Yeah Dad I don't know if I know 
it. 

1924
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:32,500
I think if you heard it you 
ain't no. 

1925
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:36,200
I always want Coldplay's 
Christmas lights to be bigger. 

1926
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:39,500
All I know it's too late. 
I mean it's not going to be like

1927
01:50:39,500 --> 01:50:43,600
popular now but I mean like it's
not going to become a classic 

1928
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,500
nass. 
Yeah could be but I just wish it

1929
01:50:47,500 --> 01:50:49,400
was bigger. 
I feel like that's a really good

1930
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,200
song. 
It's I love but it doesn't 

1931
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:54,000
really get played. 
Much fana. 

1932
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,200
Tell me, isn't that Ariana 
Grande so I don't know. 

1933
01:50:57,300 --> 01:50:58,700
I wouldn't say that. 
That's it. 

1934
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:04,300
I don't know that one. 
It's like Justin Bieber has a 

1935
01:51:04,300 --> 01:51:06,300
Christmas but again, I don't 
know. 

1936
01:51:06,300 --> 01:51:09,400
But I do think that Kelly 
Clarkson was like Dad and I 

1937
01:51:09,407 --> 01:51:14,900
know. 
Oh wait you he's like you're 

1938
01:51:14,900 --> 01:51:20,400
here to die. 
Yeah. 

1939
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:21,900
Yeah. 
Okay. 

1940
01:51:21,900 --> 01:51:26,600
I think I know what. 
Yeah, oh yeah. 

1941
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:29,800
Such Bibles Paul and John their 
Christmas song. 

1942
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:32,900
Yeah. 
I wonder what it feels like to 

1943
01:51:32,900 --> 01:51:35,300
be George and Ringo. 
It's, you know, you're never on 

1944
01:51:35,300 --> 01:51:40,600
that lovely. 
I think Ringo was pretty chill 

1945
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:41,900
with it. 
I love ring. 

1946
01:51:41,900 --> 01:51:44,300
I didn't really talk about him 
much in this episode but he's 

1947
01:51:44,300 --> 01:51:48,400
just so funny. 
But I think George It was a 

1948
01:51:48,407 --> 01:51:51,600
little disgruntled by it. 
Mmm, little bit. 

1949
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:55,200
So upon John's death to the 
Beatles. 

1950
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:58,100
Have any type of like coming 
together. 

1951
01:51:58,100 --> 01:52:00,700
I'm assuming all three of them 
went to the funeral and 

1952
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:04,000
everything, I'm not sure to be 
honest. 

1953
01:52:05,300 --> 01:52:08,200
Oh, but there is that famous 
footage of Paul reacting? 

1954
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:12,800
I'm saying is a drag, the yeah. 
But if you so like, if you guys 

1955
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:16,500
don't know, there's like all 
this controversy because it was 

1956
01:52:16,500 --> 01:52:20,900
quoted the All said, it was a 
drag than John was murdered. 

1957
01:52:21,300 --> 01:52:24,600
But if you actually watch the 
video, you can tell he's like 

1958
01:52:25,100 --> 01:52:26,900
annoyed and like, being 
sarcastic. 

1959
01:52:26,900 --> 01:52:27,800
Kind of. 
Yeah. 

1960
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:30,100
Exactly. 
And when people just find out 

1961
01:52:30,100 --> 01:52:32,100
news like that, like they're in 
shock. 

1962
01:52:32,100 --> 01:52:35,500
So he's just kind of being like,
yeah, what do you think? 

1963
01:52:35,500 --> 01:52:39,600
Like it's drag like yeah, I'm 
not sure. 

1964
01:52:40,500 --> 01:52:42,500
I'm not I'm not total expert 
yet. 

1965
01:52:42,500 --> 01:52:49,000
I'm not not there yet. 
Yeah, but I'm on my way, I would

1966
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:52,800
like to get a degree and beetles
knowledge. 

1967
01:52:55,100 --> 01:52:59,200
Random facts. 
Well, there's like a workout 

1968
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:03,100
like museums. 
Oh yeah, oh yeah. 

1969
01:53:03,700 --> 01:53:07,900
Oh yeah, that year that month 
blah blah blah blah. 

1970
01:53:07,900 --> 01:53:12,100
Yeah no. 
I don't know why I find it. 

1971
01:53:12,108 --> 01:53:14,500
So interesting. 
Well, thank you guys for 

1972
01:53:14,500 --> 01:53:17,700
listening. 
It was a wild ride. 

1973
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:21,400
Thank you so much. 
Thank you God, for leading that 

1974
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,700
episode. 
That was a big one that took so 

1975
01:53:23,700 --> 01:53:28,800
much research. 
So love you guys love. 

1976
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:36,900
You catch us next time. 
Bye, your heart.