1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:07,960 Are you lonesome tonight? Do you miss me tonight? 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:16,480 Are you sorry we didn't stand apart? 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,720 Does your? Hello everybody. 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,600 Welcome back to Significant Lovers. 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,120 We are your Co host. We are two cousins. 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,960 My name is Mel. And I'm Kel. 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,240 And yeah, this is a podcast all about relationships, whether 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:38,120 it's in pop culture, modern day or historical couples or 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,320 anything in between. We're talking about, yeah, 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,640 famous couples, their timeline, our thoughts on their 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:51,320 relationships, and how they relate to us as humans in 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,280 general. Yes, any couple is possible. 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,360 There's infinite possibilities, really. 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,600 And so today's episode, we're picking out where we left off 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,640 with Bennifer a couple months ago. 16 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,920 If you haven't listened yet, we've covered Jennifer Lopez and 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,280 Ben Affleck, their original relationship from the early 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:20,200 2000s, like 2001 was it till 2004, their broken engagement, 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,320 you know, everything that happened with that. 20 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:25,720 And then we also covered Ben Affleck and his marriage to 21 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,760 Jennifer Gardner. Yes. 22 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,680 Now we're talking about Ben Affleck with Jennifer Lopez when 23 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,400 they reunited in recent history, and this is still a developing 24 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,880 story. Guys, we are recording this on 25 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,760 September 16th and stuff is coming out day by day. 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,960 So this episode won't come out for a couple weeks. 27 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,400 So it's possible that more might come out after this is recorded. 28 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,720 Hopefully nothing major, but this is everything that has 29 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:01,920 happened since they're reunite, since they reunited, and the day 30 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,040 that we're recording it. Crazy Trilogy. 31 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,240 You could say. Yes, yeah. 32 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,320 When we could cover Jennifer Lopez and her other 33 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,440 relationships in between as well 'cause there's a lot with that, 34 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,120 but it just seems like the time to pick back up with these two 35 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,280 'cause they're giving us a lot to talk about right now. 36 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,960 It's true. We've gotten messages from you 37 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,880 guys saying we need to get on the microphone and talk about 38 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,640 it, so we're doing it. It's time. 39 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,120 And I'm gonna give a little content warning because with 40 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,320 most episodes, I feel like I try to be really nice and 41 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,000 understanding towards the couples, you know, even some 42 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,040 couples that have not been the best. 43 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,880 But I feel so bad saying this with this couple. 44 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:51,320 I had a hard time not being nice but just liking them at all. 45 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,640 So. That might come across in this 46 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:55,880 episode if you're a huge Bennifer shipper. 47 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,080 I'm so sorry, but I'm I just gotta be honest about this 48 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,880 couple. I. 49 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,920 I thought this was gonna be like a trigger warning, but just 50 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:07,680 warning. We might not be that nice. 51 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,120 But yeah, I mean, usually, usually I want to be as 52 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,160 sympathetic as possible to people, even people that do bad 53 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:21,520 things want mostly for modern day people, I feel just bad 54 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,000 because like they could hear it or you know what I mean? 55 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,080 Yeah. And even like historic people, 56 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,200 sometimes you just like get attached to them. 57 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,320 But yeah, I we might be a little biased basically because when I 58 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,280 heard about recent things about Bennifer, I was like, Oh my God, 59 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,720 are you kidding me? Yeah. 60 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,880 So. My take on them is either they 61 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,520 are stupid or they think that we are stupid and we'll get more 62 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,600 into that. But yeah, I find them pretty 63 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,960 annoying. The three words that I would use 64 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,560 to describe them are cringe, forced, and ridiculous. 65 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,160 All of the green negative usually we have like the last 66 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,040 ones negative. I'm sorry, compliment sandwich, 67 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,480 but yeah, my. Take on this couple is I do 68 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,000 think that they're stuck in the early 2000s and that very 69 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,959 traditional approach to celebrity and publicity. 70 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:21,240 And I think that's all they know, maybe because that's the 71 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,400 time period that they came up in. 72 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,120 But it's really annoying because they're always complaining about 73 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,320 the attention, but I think they're very obviously calling 74 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,120 the paparazzi and doing things that they know will get 75 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,560 attention. It's just doing things that are 76 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,480 representative of a bygone era that they started in. 77 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,480 But it annoys me because it's like I said, as if they think 78 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,800 that we're stupid. Like they're both trying to re 79 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,880 energize their careers by resurrecting this relationship 80 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,200 that fueled their stardom 20 years ago. 81 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,240 And I find it honestly kind of sad because even though there 82 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,280 are some positive articles about them and there are some hardcore 83 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:02,680 shippers, it's not a believable story. 84 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,840 Like we see right through them, especially with Ben Affleck's 85 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,480 face all the time and how miserable he looks. 86 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,920 And just like we know too much about their own baggage for them 87 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,120 to, like, sell us this great love story that they think 88 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,600 they're selling, I guess. But where does it begin? 89 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,600 So we're going back to April 2021. 90 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,920 Jennifer Lopez and A Rod have officially announced their 91 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,280 breakup a month after calling off their engagement. 92 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:31,680 Jlo and A Rod had been together for almost 4 years and the two 93 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,080 of them were very, very public about their relationship and 94 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,760 their blended family. A Rod had two daughters, Jlo has 95 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,600 two twins, and they seemed like a pretty happy family together. 96 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,640 I actually thought that her and A Rod like seemed to work 97 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,400 together. They both were from New York. 98 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,120 They both were Latino. They both Who? 99 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,800 Who is a rod for our European listeners who might not know? 100 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,480 Sorry, a Rod is a professional baseball player. 101 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,280 I would say he's actually like one of the last like celebrity 102 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:06,120 baseball players that we've had in recent history. 103 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,880 He's dated a lot of high profile people, but he's most known for 104 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:15,000 playing on the New York Yankees. And yeah, Jlo's famously from 105 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,960 New York. I thought that that seemed cute 106 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,600 together. They both have like their 107 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,360 nicknames are their first initial and then a little bit of 108 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,080 their last name. Like I just thought it made 109 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,880 sense. But sources say that their 110 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,920 breakup have been a long time coming but mostly seem to have 111 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,280 been triggered by cheating rumors. 112 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,160 A little context. A model and personality TV 113 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,040 personality named Madison Lacroix, who was from ATV show 114 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,120 called Southern Belles, went public claiming that a rod had 115 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,680 been pursuing her on Instagram, sliding into her DMS and 116 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,400 offering to fly her out to Miami to be a side chick. 117 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,760 So that's pretty bad. I understand why Jennifer would 118 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,360 break up with Alex. They tried to make it work for a 119 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,800 little bit, but ultimately she broke up with him because she 120 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,320 couldn't trust him, which is understandable. 121 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,480 So then you get with Ben Affleck I. 122 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,360 Know that's what's understandable like OK, I'm 123 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,960 breaking up with someone because I think they might have cheated 124 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,400 on me so I'm going to get with the guy that cheated on me 20 125 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,280 years ago who I know. Also cheated on Sense. 126 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:23,080 Yeah, and I know he also cheated on his wife and mother of his 127 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,000 children with the nanny. Like why would you trust this 128 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,560 guy more? I don't know. 129 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,400 I guess I will say to give her a little benefit of the doubt or 130 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,200 whatever. Sometimes when you are 131 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,280 heartbroken over someone, it can be therapeutic in a way to make 132 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,360 yourself heartbroken over somebody else. 133 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,840 So yeah, maybe that was a distraction. 134 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,200 Yeah. So she's not really wasting any 135 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,920 time. She, soon after that, days 136 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,600 later, is spotted coming and going or Ben Affleck is spotted 137 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,240 coming and going out of it. Jennifer's Bel Air house on 138 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,040 numerous occasions, but there's one instance when he's 139 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,200 photographed and sources are claiming that they're just 140 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,480 friends and that apparently Ben had reached out to Jlo after she 141 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,880 heard about the breakup and just wanted to see that she was OK. 142 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,040 Weird. When is that ever? 143 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,120 Yeah, what the heck? You hear that your ex has gone 144 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,560 through a breakup and you just reach out as a friend. 145 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:28,160 I know you OK. Yeah, obviously it wasn't very 146 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,480 innocent. Then in May, both Jen and Ben 147 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,720 had a week off of work, and they decided to spend it together at 148 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,480 Ben's house in Montana. And a source tells PEOPLE it's 149 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,799 all been quick and intense, but they're happy. 150 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,400 Yeah. Then they're photographed 151 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,680 together in Miami at Jennifer Lopez's gym there. 152 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,800 And then a week later, she's seen leaving his house in LA. 153 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,960 So then she just got divorced. Oh, she's not divorced, but she 154 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,960 just broke up her engagement. OK. 155 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,080 But so that just happened, yes, just happened. 156 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,760 And her and a rod were like living together. 157 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,080 And like I said, their families were like super close, basically 158 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,360 married. They they were cohabitating. 159 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,440 At this time, sources are saying that their relationship is very 160 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,240 serious and that they are discussing their future 161 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,080 together. How could it be serious already 162 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,440 I. Know way too fast and it's not 163 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,760 like you're picking up where you left off because you left off 164 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:30,520 like almost 20 years ago, before you even had kids, before you 165 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,120 had these separate marriages. Like it's kind of like you're 166 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,240 starting from scratch. Yeah. 167 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:38,640 So then in June, the first photos come out of them kissing. 168 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,400 So, you know, we know that they are together and people are 169 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,920 freaking out like, this is a big story in the tabloids. 170 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,280 It's almost reminds me of like a reboot. 171 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,640 Like Oh my God, I never thought that TV show would come back 172 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,120 after all these years. It's. 173 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,160 Cool, but it's almost like a fan fiction in a way, you know? 174 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,200 Yeah, I feel like I'm back in high school. 175 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,600 Yeah. Everything's right again. 176 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,600 Like, we would be freaking out obviously if Robson got back 177 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,680 together, but how genuine would that really be when people want 178 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:11,480 it so badly, you know? That would be crazy. 179 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,840 Yeah. That's a whole other 180 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,160 conversation. I would be sad for sure. 181 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,400 At this time, a writer for Vogue, Raven Smith, releases an 182 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,760 article titled Why Bennifer Matters, And I think that this 183 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,920 excerpt was kind of interesting, she says. 184 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,000 Much has changed since their original dalliance. 185 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,680 Jlo has twins and Ben's acquired their mass that massive Dragon 186 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:35,960 Tattoo. But as a couple, they nearly 187 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,800 predate the Internet, reminding us of the organic way we 188 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,080 function pre apps. Sorry to be a snap, but this 189 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,600 final brilliant part of the story is love itself. 190 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,680 We're all human and as we rebuild and grow, no matter how 191 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:51,440 hard we try not to allow it, no matter how much we we fall in 192 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,520 love with someone new, we all think of the one that got away. 193 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,360 You've pictured your what if person as if you read this. 194 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,200 I'm sure the business the business can be completely 195 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,320 finished with no loose ends. But we all have a what if 196 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:07,880 someone out there wondering wandering the planet without us. 197 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,320 It's not painful, just passed and we're resigned to it. 198 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,000 But Ben and Jen are a slim hope that the past doesn't have to 199 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,760 lay doormat, that one day, years from now, you and your what if 200 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,760 might be in a circumstance that lets you love again. 201 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:27,360 Whoa, interesting. I mean, what are the odds of 202 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,120 that this couple is like allowing all these people to 203 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:36,160 feel that like kind of fan fiction type of excitement in a 204 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,040 way. I don't know how genuine that 205 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:43,000 is. Yeah, and even though that 206 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,480 sounds romantic, I mean, it happened because other 207 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,880 relationships ended, you know, a divorce. 208 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,200 And it wasn't like just as happy story. 209 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,920 And I feel like that article makes it sound like ohh, like 210 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,320 you could end up with your what if. 211 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,320 But I'm assuming a lot of people are like married and that's why 212 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,680 they are not with their what if. So, you know, it's kind of 213 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:04,920 weird. I know. 214 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,600 And, like, the happy story would maybe be that like, yeah, your 215 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,240 divorce doesn't happen or like, yeah. 216 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,800 Hey, maybe you'll get divorced and then you can end up with 217 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,760 your wife and. Yeah, I know. 218 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,600 That's sad. I also find a little, I mean, 219 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,920 yeah, it doesn't really matter how long you date somebody. 220 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,840 But like Jen, Jennifer Lopez, she she was actually engaged 221 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,720 twice before she was originally a game engaged to Ben Affleck. 222 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,200 She had been married twice before him and she even had a 10 223 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,200 year relationship with her high school sweetheart who she didn't 224 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,400 even end up marrying before Ben Affleck. 225 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,680 So like she had like 3 pretty significant relationships before 226 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:45,720 him that it's like interesting to think like, oh, you know, 227 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,920 from her younger days, like that broken engagement, she had three 228 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,040 full intense relationships before that. 229 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,360 And then like a marriage and a broken engagement after that. 230 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,040 So it's kind of funny to be like, oh, he's the one that got 231 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,600 away. Because that could be several 232 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,680 people. Yeah, exactly. 233 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,800 But I don't know. I also think it's kind of 234 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,640 unrealistic because if a relationship doesn't work out 235 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,720 the first time, it's, I don't know, a risk to think that it 236 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,600 would years later. And it's like weird to I don't 237 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,520 know to for that writer, not no shade to her, but to say, Oh, 238 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,600 it's hope that your what if might work out. 239 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,840 It's like, oh, you mean the guy that cheated on you, like 240 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,800 engaged. I don't know, especially now, 241 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,640 like their lives are more complicated than they were years 242 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,480 before. But this was, I should have 243 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,120 asked this on the Patreon, but it was a question I was thinking 244 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,600 about with this couple is like, at what point does a complicated 245 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,680 history only complicate your present in a way? 246 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:49,000 Like some people you might have a complicated history with and 247 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,520 you that like intensifies your bond, but you wouldn't be with 248 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,560 them otherwise. Like the person that they are 249 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:59,440 right now isn't really up to your standard, but it's just the 250 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,680 history that's driving that connection. 251 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,960 But you're asking at what point does the history make it not 252 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,400 possible to have a relationship? Yeah, like at what point is the 253 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:17,360 history detrimental to the relationship more so than it 254 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:23,320 adds value? I feel like sometimes if there's 255 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,760 something related to your family or your friends or something 256 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,720 that like being with that person would cause issues, you know, 257 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,920 from the like if, if it really is making your present more 258 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,920 difficult by being with somebody, that that's when I 259 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,520 think the past can make it impossible to make it the 260 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,520 future, if that makes any sense. Yeah. 261 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,360 Especially when everybody in your life hates that person. 262 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,680 No, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. 263 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,440 What do you think about that? I mean This is why I didn't ask 264 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,800 Patreon because I feel like there's just too like the 265 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:59,920 patreons on Patreon but I feel like it's too hard to summarize. 266 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:03,800 But maybe when you don't really trust that person anymore, like 267 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,000 you have baggage from things that might have happened. 268 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,960 I totally get that. Like a history, I think, like a 269 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,400 complicated history, I think sometimes might make someone 270 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,040 hold on for too long because they want everything that 271 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,760 they've gone through with that person to be worth something and 272 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:22,560 like. Yeah. 273 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,680 When you overcome things, that can make you stronger, but at 274 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:32,360 some point I think it might create unnecessary hurdles that 275 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,720 you otherwise wouldn't have with someone that you're starting 276 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:40,000 fresh with. There's so much to that. 277 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,360 I know I'm moving pretty fast though. 278 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,160 Jen made their relationship Instagram official in July when 279 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,400 she made a post celebrating her 57th birthday. 280 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,920 And in the photos, like she's showing off her ABS, she's 281 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:57,360 wearing a bikini and the second the 3rd post in she's kissing 282 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,160 Ben which I found like kind of egotistical too. 283 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,920 I don't know. Yeah, like me, me. 284 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,400 Oh, here's the supposed love of my life. 285 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,400 Or. Whatever, me, me. 286 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,240 Like the first couple photos, it's like she wants people to be 287 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,480 like, Oh my God, she's 52 and she has a body like that. 288 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,680 And then, and she knows that's what people are thinking, and 289 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,320 then she knows that people are going to go crazy when they see 290 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,120 that third picture. Oh my gosh, yeah. 291 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,640 And it's like, I don't know if the fame and the publicity is 292 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,600 the reason why you guys broke up originally in the 1st place. 293 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,760 Why are you showing it off that quickly? 294 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,480 Three months is not that. Like you could wait a minute. 295 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,120 Some people don't even like post anything on Instagram for like a 296 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,120 couple of years into their relationship. 297 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,680 Oh well, we've talked about this, talking about this. 298 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,960 I think a few years is too long. A few years is too long, but 299 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,200 it's like a celebrity. It's. 300 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,160 Different celebrity is different, yeah. 301 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,400 Because like, that was a huge problem for them before, so why 302 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,440 wouldn't you like try to be more private? 303 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,920 I'm sorry to be a bitch, but this is what people mean when 304 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,000 they say work on yourself. Like reflect, change. 305 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,000 You know this is kind of changing what you were saying. 306 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,079 You know? If publicity is what ruined 307 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:13,280 their relationship the first time, why would you just dive in 308 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,480 and do the same exact thing again? 309 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,680 Yeah, exactly. And they keep doing it more so. 310 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:23,200 Then for her birthday they celebrated in San Tropez and 311 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,079 there at the club they are very heavy on the CDA and they're 312 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:29,600 seen singing her song. Jenny from the blog. 313 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,720 Yep. I know and he's got like all 314 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,760 alcoholism issues. Doesn't seem mature. 315 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,800 Meanwhile, they're photographed together on a yacht, which is 316 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,800 decorated with framed photos of them from earlier in their 317 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,960 relationship, like. That is insane. 318 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:49,880 Who goes on vacation and brings photos to display? 319 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,200 That's crazy. Like it's not like it's their 320 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,200 permanent yacht. They're like renting it or 321 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,160 something. Like why would you bring photos 322 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:05,000 to like a hotel or something? Are they still in Saint Tropez? 323 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:10,520 Cause I've heard that if you ever see celebrity photos on a 324 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:15,000 trip like that, that means that they were called or like told 325 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,000 about this ahead of time 'cause why? 326 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,640 I don't. Maybe I'm wrong, but I wouldn't 327 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,720 think there's like round the clock paparazzi in Saint Tropez 328 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,520 for American celebrities, you know what I mean? 329 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,240 I don't think yeah exactly IA 100% in stage because then on 330 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,960 the gut there's paparazzi that shoots a photo of them 331 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,480 recreating the iconic Ask grab shot from the Jenny from the 332 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:44,160 Block music video. It's so fake. 333 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,160 Do you think we're stupid? They know that people are going 334 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,160 to be eating that up. Like, Oh my God, look, it's it's 335 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,720 benefit from the past right now, benefit from the block. 336 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,400 Like they know we're going to be doing the side by side photos. 337 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,360 And it's, it literally does feel like it's like a 90s reboot 338 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:04,760 coming back and like that people are just like hungry for it. 339 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:08,040 But OK, are they like actually together though, and they're 340 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,560 just playing up their celebrity? Maybe, but I don't even know how 341 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,600 you have that conversation like I. 342 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,520 Know I cannot wrap my head around like so-called PR 343 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,160 relationships. Yeah. 344 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,440 Like how that actually goes down. 345 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,600 I mean I I would be willing to bet that they were like actually 346 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,600 hooking up and like together and stuff, but how? 347 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,760 I just don't get how that goes. I feel like that would take away 348 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,680 the romance from it, knowing that everything that you're 349 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,400 doing is also has an ulterior motive and for other people to 350 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,480 see. Yeah, I feel like it would take 351 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:47,200 two really egotistical people to the town with that. 352 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,440 Yeah. And I wrote in my notes, like, I 353 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,840 was like, I find this so egotistical. 354 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,920 Like, even though I love Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart, I 355 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,600 love them as a couple. I would not really buy it if 30 356 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,640 years from now they got back together and we're deliberately 357 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,640 recreating images and moments that they knew was popular. 358 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,560 During the Twilight era, you know, like, I would not find 359 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,920 that genuine. So strange, Oh my. 360 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,000 God, I don't know, like what the like they go to can and they're 361 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,040 like making out on a rooftop or something like, hey, obviously 362 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,880 you know that that's not real. He like climbs up in a tree and 363 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:34,200 then leans down to her. And I hope that I would not fall 364 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,440 for it. If they didn't, I might. 365 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,840 I might be just too excited. And I really, I don't get it 366 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,400 because Ben Affleck supposedly is the one who hated media 367 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,520 attention and couldn't handle it the first time. 368 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,200 So like, why would you be going along with this now? 369 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,120 Just out of desperation? So then in September, they 370 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:57,720 attend the Met Gala together and they pose for picture kissing 371 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,320 through their masks. In October, Throughout that 372 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,760 month, Jennifer is away in Canada filming a Netflix movie 373 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,880 called The Mother, which is a which this time it's apparently 374 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,000 hard on their relationship because they're apart from each 375 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,920 other. And then for Thanksgiving, she 376 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,120 flies back to LA to spend time with Ben and her twins, Max and 377 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:20,200 Emmy. And then he also spends separate 378 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,360 time at home with his own children. 379 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaking of, I have to wonder what Jennifer Garner is thinking 380 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,080 throughout all of this. I know I I read that she was 381 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,360 just like happy for him or not happy for him, but she was over 382 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:38,360 him to the point where like she didn't really care. 383 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:41,240 Almost like she was relieved that like now he's Jennifer 384 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,160 Lopez's problem. But I think honestly, it would 385 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,640 be hard for the kids. Like I'm just imagining if my 386 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,120 parents broke up and then like one of my parents got back with 387 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:54,280 their ex from earlier. I know we talked about this in 388 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,520 the episode with Jennifer Gardner, but like from a kids 389 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,160 perspective, it would almost feel like, well, did you ever 390 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,600 really love my mom or or love my dad? 391 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,400 Because were you thinking about that other person the whole 392 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,120 time? Yeah, I know. 393 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,640 So how old are the kids now? If you had to guess, it's OK if 394 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,240 you don't know the exact age, but. 395 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:19,800 Right now his kids are 18. Like right now as the time we're 396 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,360 recording this, he has an 18 year old, a 15 year old and a 12 397 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:26,080 year old and she has 216 year olds. 398 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,120 So at this time they're like three years younger than that. 399 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,120 So teens are pre preteens. So they're still young, like 400 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,920 still the age where you need your parents around. 401 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,560 So I also have to wonder like that's I don't know if they 402 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,880 would have heard about this, but it's just weird like, oh, why is 403 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,320 dad like out on a yacht in Europe? 404 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,160 Well, you know. Ben Affleck actually did say 405 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,800 something about it when he went on The Howard Stern Show. 406 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,160 He was like, all I care about is my kids and how this effects 407 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,920 their kids. And he's like, I know they're 408 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,560 not immune to it. He's like, I know that, like, 409 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,520 kids at school say things to them and like, talk about how 410 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,120 I'm in the tabloids. That has to be hard for the kids 411 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:10,720 because it's not like they're taking things slow and easing 412 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,760 them into it. Like it's happening very, very 413 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,560 quickly. And I feel particularly bad for 414 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,560 Jennifer Lopez's kids because they had these two other 415 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,320 basically step sisters through her relationship with a Rod, who 416 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,720 they were very close with. They all lived together, they 417 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,880 traveled together and then very quickly now they have three 418 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,880 different basically step siblings. 419 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:36,840 You have to have like a blended family again. 420 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,920 And that's hard. Like I've never gone through 421 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,360 that. But I can't imagine having like 422 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,800 step siblings and then your parents get divorced because 423 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,120 what does that mean for your relationship? 424 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:50,720 And to have to do that like multiple times seems like it 425 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,840 would be kind of. Traumatic. 426 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,400 That seems really hard. The stars and their children, I 427 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,840 know. I also wrote my notes like it 428 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,560 did did remind me. I know I mentioned this before 429 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,640 when we did the Pete and Ariana episode, but it really reminded 430 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,400 me of them again because there's like a new article about them 431 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,160 every single day and every single article mentions the 432 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,600 projects that they're working on or the projects that are coming 433 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,160 out right now. So like there is so much 434 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,280 promotion for all of their stuff at the same time. 435 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,760 Strange. And then in December, Ben goes 436 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,640 on Howard Stern so take a drink and he talks about why him and 437 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,480 Jen broke up the first time. He said. 438 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,320 I would say that media attention was about 50% of what just 439 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,200 destroyed our relationship. The idea that people hate you 440 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,360 and they hate you together and that being together is poison 441 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:47,240 and ugly and toxic and the thing none of us want to be a part of. 442 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,800 And who the fuck would want to have them to dinner and what the 443 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,080 fuck are they doing together? He was like very aware of what 444 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,520 people thought and that that got in the way. 445 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,280 I think they had other problems too. 446 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,360 I guess I was just going to say like, I don't know why that 447 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:06,880 would ruin your relationship, but like, I don't know, why 448 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,720 should they care what other people think? 449 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,000 I mean, what about like gay couples? 450 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,320 You know, they have to deal with that all the time getting shit 451 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,600 from people and people can make it through. 452 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,840 So I mean, I know it's like different to be famous, but it 453 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,080 seems really hard to be famous. But they obviously had other 454 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,960 problems. I but I think what I'm 455 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,400 interpreting by that is like we said, like, like we said, these 456 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,520 are pretty egotistical people, so they care a lot about what 457 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,920 people think, yeah. And. 458 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,840 Yeah. Oh, I just remember from your 459 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,560 episode, like part one, that that was around the time like 460 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,920 their movie Geely Whatever didn't do good and that their 461 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,160 career was kind of taking tanking. 462 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,680 So it was more than their relationship I think. 463 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,760 Yeah, exactly. I think when a relationship is 464 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,280 no longer financially beneficial for them, it starts to sour. 465 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,960 But so then in February 2022, Jlo is on the cover of People 466 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,880 magazine to promote her upcoming movie Marry Me. 467 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,200 And the cover line is Jennifer in love. 468 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,000 And in the article, she explains why her relationship with Ben 469 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,840 now works better, better than it did previously. 470 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,800 And she says, we're older now, we're smarter, we have more 471 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,120 experience. We're at different places in our 472 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:25,120 lives. We have kids now and we have, we 473 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,200 have to be very conscious of those things. 474 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,720 It's a beautiful outcome that this has happened in this way at 475 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,320 this time in our lives where we really can appreciate and 476 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,240 celebrate each other and respect each other. 477 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,640 We always did. But we have even more of an 478 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,720 appreciation because we know that we can take that, that life 479 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,040 can take you in different directions. 480 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,760 So as mentioned, Jennifer is promoting her new movie Marry 481 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,040 Me. So of course, Ben and Jen are 482 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:57,640 posing in front of posters that say Marry Me at this time on the 483 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,200 red carpet. And this is obviously fueling 484 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,560 engagement rumors. And so then, of course, two 485 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,160 months later, guess what? They really do get engaged. 486 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,960 Oh. My. 487 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,800 Goodness. She shared the news in an e-mail 488 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,320 newsletter to her fans. She said. 489 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,480 Well, at my favorite place on earth, in the bubble bath, my 490 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,360 beautiful love got on one knee and proposed. 491 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,720 I was taken totally off guard and just looked in his eyes, 492 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,760 smiling and crying at the same time, trying hard to get my head 493 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,520 around the fact that after 20 years this was happening all 494 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,560 over again. I was quite literally speechless 495 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,040 and he said is that a yes? I said yes, of course. 496 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,800 That's a yes. Like he's a scumbag. 497 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:51,560 I'm sorry. Again, about with the ulterior 498 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,400 motives here, like, I don't find it very romantic that you're 499 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,840 telling us in a newsletter, an e-mail newsletter. 500 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,960 If it really was genuine, why aren't you just like letting, I 501 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,080 don't know, like rumors swirl and then like a Rep confirms or 502 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,840 denies. Like it just seems odd to me. 503 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,400 I I would like if these are different people in different 504 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,640 circumstances. I would think this is really, 505 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,280 really sweet and romantic. I do love people reuniting like 506 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,480 that kind of story, but it just doesn't seem smart. 507 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,360 I was just, when this was happening in real time and I was 508 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:29,320 hearing about it. I was just all throughout. 509 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,760 I was just saying, are you kidding me? 510 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,960 I know. No, because I don't believe that 511 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,960 Ben has probably done the healing that he needs to do from 512 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,920 all the shit that he's put people through before. 513 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,480 And yeah, there's no time that these people worked on 514 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,640 themselves at all. This is actually Jennifer's 515 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:52,600 sixth time getting engaged. 6th time. 6th time like I said, 516 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,280 she's gotten engaged like 2 years earlier. 517 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,400 What the heck is the psychology behind that? 518 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,560 I know what even is engaged to someone that has been engaged to 519 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,160 six times. I know how big of a deal is. 520 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,240 I mean, obviously you're downsizing a little bit. 521 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,760 You're like, now I'm Naked in the tub. 522 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,200 Yeah. But it would be ridiculous in a 523 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,000 way if it was like an over the top engagement. 524 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,760 Yeah, 'cause like, Oh my God, lady, like, how many times can 525 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,760 you do this? But what were you going to say? 526 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,600 Well. Actually, her first engagement 527 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,000 to Ben I think also wasn't that big of a deal. 528 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,560 I think he was like, what? Wasn't it at the house and he 529 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,400 had like roses or something? Oh yeah, you're right, you're 530 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,320 right. Playing her song, which was kind 531 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,840 of weird. Yes, yes, but they barely knew 532 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,360 each other at that point as well. 533 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,680 Yeah, like I think it was when she first met his family. 534 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,160 Yes. Which to me she's kind of 535 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,000 rushed, but it's actually her 7th time being proposed to 536 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,760 because on an episode of Carpool Karaoke she revealed that she 537 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,040 had also rejected a couple proposals in the past. 538 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,320 And just like based off the math of what she said, we can assume 539 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,440 that another person had proposed to her at some point that she 540 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,720 said no to. So I mean that's crazy. 7 times 541 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,400 she's gone through that once in a lifetime experience. 542 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,480 No shit. I know it happens to people a 543 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,960 couple times, but once you get to that time it's like, OK, 544 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:26,960 obviously something is not going right after after the thing of 545 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,120 the yes and the getting married. Like at some point you have to 546 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,160 do something like introspective work and maybe it is like you're 547 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,840 not picking the right people. I wonder. 548 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,160 It's so like Elizabeth Taylor in a way. 549 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,320 I wonder if what she'll do now and if she'll just kind of stop 550 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,680 'cause that's what Elizabeth Taylor did. 551 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,080 Like she had all her husbands and then at some point when she 552 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,760 was older, you know, she just was single the rest of her life. 553 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,240 So I mean, I hate to like be shitting on Jennifer here 'cause 554 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,760 Ben's the problem, but like, that's kind of the point. 555 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,680 It's like if you had gone through this like bad 556 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,320 relationship you just got out of on, why would you go back to 557 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,320 someone who's like a walking red flag like Ben Affleck? 558 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,320 Yeah. I mean, he's he is the red flag, 559 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,400 yes. But yeah, I know. 560 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,520 So I'm not. I'm not saying it's like her 561 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,400 problem completely, but she should know better. 562 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,440 Yeah, yeah, from a mile away, we know it's not going to work. 563 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,520 And don't, don't sit there and tell us about the kids. 564 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,640 It's all about the kids you want. 565 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,280 And you don't give a shit about the kids because otherwise you 566 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,200 would not be in this relationship in the first place. 567 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,800 I would like to like ask the listeners, I'm not sure when 568 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,320 maybe some episode or I don't know if I should say it right 569 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,960 now, but it, you know, it's been something that I've struggled 570 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,400 with. But when do you tell a friend or 571 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,400 something that like you don't think it's a good idea or? 572 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,040 I know, yes. Yeah, it's hard to do. 573 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,000 Yeah, it's really hard. For celebrities, it's probably 574 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,160 even harder because they're probably surrounded by a lot of 575 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,960 yes people. So just three months after 576 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:04,000 getting engaged, they eloped in a surprise wedding in Vegas. 577 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,760 So like, again, didn't you say like we have to be more cautious 578 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,160 for the kids? Like, why isn't that moving so 579 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,440 fast? What is the rush here? 580 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,480 Her kids were present, but his weren't even there because they 581 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,760 just did it spur the moment. And his kids were away at summer 582 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,120 camp, which I feel like would be very upsetting for them. 583 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,240 Be like what you just like did this without even warning us 584 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,960 like you just got married after that a couple. 585 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,120 This is like a couple months into the future. 586 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,240 Jennifer actually goes on Jimmy Kimmel to promote her upcoming 587 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,200 romantic comedy called Shotgun Wedding which. 588 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,400 Is that? Crazy. 589 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:46,400 Like she gets engaged around the promotion of her film Marry Me 590 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,120 Yeah. And she gets married very 591 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,640 quickly around the promotion of her film Shotgun. 592 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,240 Wedding Mel, I did not know that. 593 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,400 That's really weird. Like surreal. 594 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,520 I didn't know that she was like mirroring her movies. 595 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,840 Yes, in her life. That's why I feel like this has 596 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,360 to be staged, because what are the odds that it would line up 597 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,080 with your projects like that? Dick. 598 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,080 That's creepy. I know. 599 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,840 Yeah, 'cause it's like you read these articles where she like, 600 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,520 talks about something having to do with her relationship with 601 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,680 Ben. And then the last paragraph will 602 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,640 be and Jennifer Lopez new movie is coming out and it's like has 603 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,240 a title that like mimics whatever is happening with Ben. 604 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,720 Like it's like too good. It does seem so old fashioned, 605 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,880 almost like 1950s in a way, 'cause I feel like people would 606 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,520 always starring movies that like kind of reflected their life. 607 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,800 That does seem like an old school, really old school way of 608 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,720 being a celebrity if. I mean, maybe it's just a crazy 609 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,000 coincidence, but I would think not. 610 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,120 Yeah, it's too good to be true. And then on the show, she said 611 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,240 that it was Ben's idea for them to elope before their big 612 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,080 wedding day because they were busy planning it, and that she 613 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,720 was experiencing a little bit of PTSD from their first wedding 614 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,679 falling apart. So he said, let's just go to 615 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:15,239 Vegas today and get married to eliminate the pressure of the 616 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,679 anticipation, which kind of seems like a good idea. 617 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:20,120 But like I said, it's kind of shitty that then his kids were 618 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,360 left out of that. Yeah. 619 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,360 Well, so then they did have their big wedding in August, 620 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,760 which again, like even that is a pretty to me. 621 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,480 I still think that's a shotgun wedding. 622 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,000 Like, they got engaged in April, they're getting married in 623 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,560 August, They have a big wedding ceremony and reception on Ben's 624 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:44,360 87 acre island in Savannah, GA. Jennifer wore a custom Ralph 625 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,120 Lauren dress with cap sleeves and open back cut out, a flowing 626 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,280 train and ruffled detail and a very dramatic veil. 627 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,360 And all the guests also were told to wear white. 628 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,640 There were three days of activities and the wedding 629 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,840 concluded with a big romantic fireworks show. 630 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,240 And then the newlyweds jetted off to Italy for their 631 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:07,120 honeymoon. And there are some very high 632 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:12,320 rise photos of them taken by Pop High res photos taken by 633 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,360 paparazzi where they're all dressed up and walking hand in 634 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,920 hand and they look in love and stylish and very cute. 635 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,440 But then there's more grainy, authentic pictures that come out 636 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,920 that appear to show Ben crying and looking very distressed. 637 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,360 And Jennifer seems to be comforting him. 638 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,000 So it's just very different from, like, this, like, big love 639 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,080 story and like, happy ending that they're trying to sell us. 640 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:41,240 And around this time, sources are saying that Ben is having a 641 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:45,560 hard time with the media attention on their relationship. 642 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,760 I don't know why I don't buy that. 643 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,720 I know because it sounds like. Another problem. 644 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,440 Yeah. Jarring though. 645 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,080 Yeah. The contrast between the high 646 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,800 resolution so happy pictures and Oh my gosh. 647 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,280 I know I, I feel like they weren't prepared with how much 648 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,160 people would be on to them. Then in October of that year, 649 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,280 there are reports that Ben and Jen are already butting heads 650 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,840 over Ben's bad habits, including his failure to clean up after 651 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,520 himself and his smoking. Then in December, Jennifer 652 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,320 shared in her fan newsletter that the couple had a big 653 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,120 blended family holiday celebration and that all of 654 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,640 their Christmas decorations were Hummingbird themed in light of 655 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,400 her upcoming single Hummingbird. Oh my goodness, so 656 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:36,880 self-centered, I know. Like it's just like it really is 657 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,880 like so old fashioned to be blending all these career. 658 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:44,040 Yeah. Aspects of your life with your 659 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,800 romantic life and personal life in this way, why should 660 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,120 Christmas. Be about your professional 661 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,800 project. And it's so self-centered for 662 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,640 the kids too. It's like what? 663 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,080 Why do we care what mom's song is? 664 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,320 I know I didn't have a normal Christmas. 665 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,160 Yeah, I was thinking it too, because I was like, it's kind of 666 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,680 ironic that she has this newsletter in a way to like, 667 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,280 connect with her fans and be close to her fans to sell her 668 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,240 products and her movies and her music. 669 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:14,480 But honestly, it's so unrelatable that you even have a 670 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,400 different themed Christmas, the core every single year. 671 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,440 Like most people go into their attic or yeah, they like pull 672 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,720 out the same stuff and like it's nostalgic and it's a tradition. 673 00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:31,520 Like that's so weird to what even is like Hummingbird themed 674 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,160 Christmas decoration. I know. 675 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:41,040 Are there pictures of that? I don't even understand. 676 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,440 I don't think what that would look like. 677 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,520 Oh my gosh, that is so not Christmas at all too, at least 678 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,240 in the northern hemisphere. I know it's confusing the 679 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:53,480 southern hemisphere too, but you know, you wouldn't like see 680 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,080 Hummingbird, at least where we live. 681 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,920 Like you wouldn't see hummingbirds out. 682 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,840 Like that just doesn't make any sense. 683 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,040 Oh, she has like jewelry That's Hummingbird stuff. 684 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,720 I think the tree is decorated with hummingbirds. 685 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,200 Oh my goodness, we actually do have, funny enough, a 686 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,320 Hummingbird ornament my family. So I guess I take it back. 687 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,320 Yeah. I just remembered. 688 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,360 Just the fact that she's telling us like it's a case. 689 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,720 You just have some things for yourself and your family. 690 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,040 And then you probably remember this. 691 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,840 It's February 2023 now and there is an awkward moment at the 692 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:35,040 Grammys when Trevor Noah, who's the host, is talking and they 693 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,360 didn't seem to know that the camera was on them. 694 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,240 And Ben whispers something in her ear. 695 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,320 And then she seemingly reprimands him and she actually 696 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,840 hits him in the chest and rolls her eyes like she looks 697 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,120 genuinely angry. That's not flirty. 698 00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:50,440 And then he seems to angrily pout. 699 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:55,440 And then he like, addresses tie. And then Jen turns and she 700 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,760 notices the that the cameras are on her and her eyes look so big 701 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,640 like they get like horrified. And then she completely code 702 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,000 switches and pretends to laugh at whatever Trevor just said. 703 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,960 But it's the kind of laugher. No, you know, she didn't hear 704 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,080 what Trevor said. She's just laughing because she 705 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,680 heard other people laughing. And she's like, oh shit, I have 706 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,080 to act normal now. And Ben still has this like 707 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,680 grumpy distance stare on his face at this point. 708 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,680 And I don't know if this is real, but the Daily Mail hires a 709 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,640 lip reader to interpret what they said to each other. 710 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,400 And allegedly she said look more friendly, look motivated. 711 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:41,040 And he said, he said, I might. So some people assume that maybe 712 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,360 he was drinking again and that she was maybe scolding him for 713 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,440 that because we do know that his alcohol issues. 714 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,040 He later said to The Hollywood Reporter, I saw Trevor Noah and 715 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,960 I was like, oh God, they were framing us in the shop, but I 716 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,760 didn't know that they were rolling. 717 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,000 And I leaned into her and I was like, as soon as they start 718 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,080 rolling, I'm going to slide away from you and leave you sitting 719 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,520 next to Trevor. She goes, you better fucking not 720 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,640 leave. That's a husband and wife thing. 721 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:11,240 So maybe it's like. Just like regular banter but I 722 00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:14,160 don't know it just look. The code switching I think is 723 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:19,840 what makes it look super funny and like they were caught in the 724 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,440 ACT because like her eyes just look so horrified when she sees 725 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,000 that they're on camera. In a way I do feel a little 726 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,320 sympathy for them in that moment because like that does suck, but 727 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,080 you can't just like be a little annoyed at your partner at some 728 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:40,600 event and you have to, you feel like you need to be smiling and 729 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,120 happy and everything. Yeah, totally. 730 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,000 And I feel bad for Ben in that regard because he said that the 731 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,760 fact that people assumed that he was drinking again made him feel 732 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,880 guilty forever, even being open about his alcohol issues. 733 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,520 Like he was like, you try to be open about things to like lessen 734 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,400 the stigma, but then then your whole life people are going to 735 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,200 be wondering if you're relapsing. 736 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,680 That is tough. So I feel bad for him with that, 737 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,000 but it is a funny clip. And then in February, also for 738 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,280 Valentine's Day, the couple got matching commitment tattoos, 739 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,400 which are crossed arrows, kind of like an Infinity sign. 740 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:26,520 And it says BB and J you. Sure about that. 741 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:30,640 All right. I know, we know how that goes. 742 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,320 Every time, I think, I'm pretty sure every time we've mentioned 743 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,320 tattoos, like with a couple, it hasn't gone well. 744 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,400 Yeah, but I'm sure there have been couples we covered that 745 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,360 have tattoos and it's fine and we just didn't mention it. 746 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,080 But it's happened a few times on this podcast. 747 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,040 OK, so the in that same interview Ben talks about the 748 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,440 media attention more and he says she as in Jennifer, she thinks 749 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,760 that because of the experiences that I've had I've become very 750 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,320 guarded. And she's right. 751 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,760 I view these things as landmines where if you say 1 wrong thing 752 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,200 your career might be over. So she tells me today, relax, be 753 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,880 yourself, have fun. You're actually a fun guy who is 754 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,560 real and genuine, and you just seem so serious. 755 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,920 Do I seem serious? But as in many things, she's 756 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,000 really right and she loves me. She's looking out for me. 757 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,280 She's trying to help me. So it's like, maybe I ought to 758 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,520 fucking listen to her. Then says it is kind of 759 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,800 interesting that he does seem to have such a issue with press, 760 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,240 but she presses him to be more open because I think that's just 761 00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:39,680 not a relatable issue that a lot of people have. 762 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:44,600 It's being guarded about people in general is very different 763 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,200 about being guarded about media attention. 764 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,760 But yeah. And then in May, paparazzi catch 765 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,480 footage of Jen and Ben getting into a car. 766 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,160 And once again, he looks visibly grumpy, very grumpy. 767 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,560 And when he opens the door for Jennifer to get in, he angrily 768 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,560 closes it shut, like, he kind of slams it in her face. 769 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,360 But you can maybe assume that he's upset that paparazzi is 770 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,160 there in general. She's probably calling them. 771 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:17,120 Exactly, and maybe I'm ignorant but I feel like why aren't you 772 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,160 just at your house in Montana if you really hate paparazzi that 773 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,760 much? Like why are you in places where 774 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,080 paparazzi would be? Right. 775 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,320 I mean, ever since throwback to an episode a while ago, but 776 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,520 Samantha Ronson said Lindsay Lohan called paparazzi. 777 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,600 So people do it, yes. So it's a thing. 778 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,920 And Jlo just seems like the type that would. 779 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,120 Yeah. But honestly, like, he had that 780 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,720 relationship, too, with Anna de Armas or whatever. 781 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,160 And he was also photographed with her a lot. 782 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,440 But like, if you watch the videos, they're walking super 783 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,320 slow, like on walks, like in their neighborhood in a way that 784 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,080 I'm like, someone probably called the paparazzi in that 785 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,400 situation, Yeah. I know I don't. 786 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,760 I don't know if I buy that he actually hates the paparazzi. 787 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,240 Yeah. Or like OK maybe he does, but he 788 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,520 still is willing to do it for his career if that makes sense. 789 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,480 Yeah, like maybe his team is calling the paparazzi. 790 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:25,520 Yeah, I think. He I think he is consenting to 791 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:31,800 it or like knows about it. Maybe he doesn't technically 792 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,040 like the experience, but he wants the benefits of it. 793 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,840 So yeah, kind of like how a lot of us have to do things we don't 794 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,240 want to do for work. True. 795 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,680 But we would argue, like, I think that's kind of optional. 796 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,080 Like, I think you must have a lot of money by now. 797 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,200 Like you could pull it back a little if you wanted to, but it 798 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,480 seems like he doesn't. Yeah, I just like, what are the 799 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,440 odds to like, I know paparazzi are probably, they're probably 800 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:03,720 always in some locations like or close by and maybe the airport 801 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:07,720 or outside like a Hollywood studio or something. 802 00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:11,120 But what are the odds that they would always be like know where 803 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:16,280 you are every single day I. Find it so weird? 804 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,760 Have you ever seen paparazzi in New York? 805 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,200 I don't think so, no. I I know you saw it in Italy, 806 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,000 right? But yeah, I never, I mean, I 807 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,520 didn't live in like downtown Manhattan, but I never saw them 808 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,280 in New York either. It's just, it's weird. 809 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,600 I wonder if anyone listening if you live in LA, like do you ever 810 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,400 see them like camped out somewhere? 811 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,080 Just curious how it works. Maybe they're just really good 812 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,120 at hiding, but I feel like if you've ever even tried to, like 813 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,120 there's some celebrities where I've had tabs on them all the 814 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,200 time. Obviously Rob and Kristen in my 815 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,880 younger days, I knew where they were at most times. 816 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,280 Not like they were exactly like I knew the state that they were 817 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,720 in most days because I just was a huge fan and I wouldn't be 818 00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:05,480 able to tell you like if they were going to a coffee shop or 819 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,440 they're like regular day-to-day whereabouts. 820 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,160 Like that would be so hard to figure out. 821 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,120 We have tried purposefully to like see celebrities before and 822 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,360 didn't like it's hard, you can just happen across them, but 823 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,200 it's really hard to actually like wait around somewhere and 824 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,840 see somebody so. So what I don't get paparazzi 825 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,880 would be like, in the right place at the right time. 826 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,000 Like someone has to be tipping them off. 827 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,160 Yeah, unless they're just waiting outside their house, 828 00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:37,040 which is creepy, but yeah. But yeah, the ones where they're 829 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,880 just like, yeah, going to a coffee shop, like, how did they 830 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,560 know? Yeah. 831 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,920 Yeah, and then in this video, like they're getting into a 832 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,280 parked car somewhere. So I mean, maybe someone saw 833 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,840 them at like a restaurant or something, but it just seems 834 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,600 odd. So that same month, Ben and Jen 835 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,600 attended the premiere of her film Mother. 836 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,720 And on the red carpet, Ben, first of all, he looks terrible. 837 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:06,320 I hate to say that but his face is very red and his skin is 838 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,680 puffy and his eyes look very sunken in like he just doesn't. 839 00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:14,120 Oh no. He looks very tired and they're 840 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,920 posing and Jen kisses him like she's doing kind of the fake 841 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,800 laugh, like she's really like playing up the pictures. 842 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,480 And then he whispers something in her ear and then she kisses 843 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,320 him again. And then he puts his face in her 844 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,920 face and he seems to be saying something very intensely in a 845 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,760 pretty angry manner. He doesn't look like chill at 846 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,640 all. The Daily Mail hired a lip 847 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,280 reader who apparently said that they are merely talking about 848 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,880 where they're going to stand and like, take pictures. 849 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,440 So maybe there's not much to it. Maybe just being in that setting 850 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,760 like stresses him out. But it definitely, especially in 851 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,320 photographs, like it looks like he's yelling at her, but maybe 852 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,520 that's just how he naturally is. I don't know. 853 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,680 Kind of scary. I know. 854 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,800 So then in June, they bought a $61 million home in a gated 855 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,360 community in Beverly Hills. So at least they're like in a 856 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,960 gated community at this point. Then in September. 857 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,920 So skipping ahead, Ben is photographed seemingly engaging 858 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,720 in an intimate embrace with his ex-wife, Jennifer Gardner and a 859 00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:23,080 car. The two of them are smiling with 860 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,280 him resting his head on Jennifer's shoulder. 861 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,000 Interesting. Then the next day, sources say 862 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,160 that, well, first of all, the next day, at this point, Ben and 863 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,000 Jennifer Lopez, they actually haven't been photographed 864 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,040 together in over a month, but then they're photographed the 865 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,040 day after this or the day after that, so. 866 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,280 What are the odds? I know exactly and so a source 867 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,280 close to the couple say that Jlo is absolutely furious and feels 868 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,480 like she's been blindsided by these pictures. 869 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,600 Bens been insisting they were completely innocent and that Jlo 870 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,320 he does believe him, but he's also been unrepentant. 871 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,680 He keeps saying that Jennifer, as in Jennifer Gardner, is like 872 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,720 a sister at this point, and if Jlo's going to get jealous and 873 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:12,280 throw tantrums over a harmless cuddle, then the problem is on 874 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,840 her. Oh, that's a tricky situation, I 875 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,480 know. On both sides. 876 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,400 Ben, be for real. Your ex-wife is never going to 877 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,920 be like your sister, especially she. 878 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,520 Has kids together. I know I do. 879 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,520 I mean, we don't know these people, but I would believe that 880 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,880 Jennifer Gardner is truly over him. 881 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,480 And it wasn't romantic. And they both share kids 882 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,440 together. You got to have some kind of 883 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:42,160 familial bond, I bet. I bet it was just a cozy family 884 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,360 thing, but I can get Jlo's perspective. 885 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,400 I I would be pretty upset too. I think so, yeah. 886 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,520 That's a tough one. Yeah, I wouldn't love it. 887 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,920 But then, like, a week and a half later, Ben and Jennifer, as 888 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,480 in Jennifer Lopez, are photographed having a seemingly 889 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,080 tense conversation in their car. And like, maybe they're just 890 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,840 talking about something else, like some shared thing that 891 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,360 they're both stressed out about, you know, like some work drama 892 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,600 or something. But they do just both look so 893 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,920 serious, like they look angry. Interesting. 894 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,120 Do you think because we've been talking about like, oh, it seems 895 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:28,000 like they want attention. Do you think they want attention 896 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,280 for drama too? Or do you think this is purely 897 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,080 just a coincidence, like they got caught by paparazzi? 898 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:40,360 That's a good question. I think maybe I, I think they 899 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,000 might like, like the roller coaster aspect that their 900 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,440 original love story had the highs and the lows. 901 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,200 So maybe they do want people to think that, you know, like, once 902 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,280 you're engaged and married, what are the storylines now, you 903 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,680 know? That's true. 904 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,040 I don't know. It's tough. 905 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,520 It's tough because sometimes it feels like it's intentional and 906 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,600 then other times not. Yeah, because like, obviously 907 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,880 paparazzi is here and we're like, Oh yeah, obviously they 908 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,400 called the paparazzi. But like in these photos, are 909 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,920 they calling the paparazzi? There must be somewhere they're 910 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,240 not. Yeah, I don't know. 911 00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:16,440 We don't know. I mean, maybe they did call the 912 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,960 paparazzi and they got in a fight by the time maybe she. 913 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,920 Called them and he was like, what the fuck? 914 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,920 Yeah, She was like, no, wait, let's stay in the car for a bit 915 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,720 because there might be photographers. 916 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,280 That's true. And he's like, are you serious? 917 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,160 And then they start getting into all their problems with each 918 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,240 other. Honestly, I. 919 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,280 That, that is what happened. So yeah. 920 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,520 Then in November, Jenna's interviewed by Vogue and about 921 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,400 her relationship with Ben. She says I feel even more 922 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,360 relaxed and comfortable, which makes me feel even more 923 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,720 beautiful than I have ever felt with someone else. 924 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,840 Every part of me, my body, my choice, my voice, even my 925 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,240 mistakes. Like I don't know I'm. 926 00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:03,360 Sorry, that's so self-centered. I can't imagine saying something 927 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,760 like that. Yeah, I don't just I feel 928 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,880 beautiful, like me, me, me because of my relationship. 929 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,800 It's just weird. I know I could say like, oh, 930 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,600 someone else, like they help me, you know, feel beautiful or 931 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,960 something. But also it's like saying I feel 932 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,960 more relaxed. Like, OK, we've seen so many 933 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,960 photos now that don't look very relaxed. 934 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,640 So in December of last year, ahead of the promotion of her 935 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,200 new documentary film titled This Is Me Now, Jennifer gave an 936 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,320 interview to Variety. And she revealed that her and 937 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,200 Ben still both have PTSD, but the media frenzy that they had 938 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,320 experienced years ago. And she says, but we're older 939 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,400 now, we're wiser. We also know what's what. 940 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,400 We also know what's important, what's really important in life. 941 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,680 And it's not so much what other people think. 942 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,520 It's about being true to who you are. 943 00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:57,840 I don't know. I just feel like if you really 944 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,360 had PTSD like you wouldn't be together in the first place. 945 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:06,920 It's a lot of fuss but I feel like you need the attention more 946 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,080 than ever. No offense but you're in your 947 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,800 50s and I hate ageism in Hollywood too. 948 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:17,320 But like I I feel like they are desperate for attention at this 949 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,760 point so I'm not really buying it. 950 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,960 No IA 100% agree. I think that, like I said with 951 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,000 the whole reboot, like a reboot is often an actor to revive 952 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,880 their career. And I think that's what they're 953 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,840 doing here. They're like, OK, like we really 954 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:41,280 don't want to be like, you know, on the on the outs in Hollywood. 955 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,840 We don't want people to forget about us. 956 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,920 So we're going to force them to remember this time when they 957 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,640 loved us. Yeah, yeah, 'cause I, I, I just 958 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,960 don't think people were like obsessed with Jennifer Lopez in 959 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,160 recent years. And, and that's hard and kind of 960 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,680 sad to witness happen. And I think it happens to 961 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,040 everybody that's a celebrity. But I don't think she was like 962 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,320 on, you know, the people's top choice for cover of magazine or 963 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,880 like who people are following. I mean, it was more like the 964 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,600 younger people, you know, like Bella Hadid and Selena Gomez and 965 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,280 all these people. And I don't think people were 966 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,320 that crazy about them recently. So I just don't really buy it. 967 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,880 No, they were definitely growing tired of her. 968 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,360 And I think unfortunately with this relationship, she didn't 969 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,800 realize that people were going to get sick of her more, a lot 970 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,160 of people. Yeah. 971 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:35,080 So then in this current year, 2024, in January, Jen is on the 972 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,920 red carpet and ET asks her about, you know, why are people 973 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,200 so worried about Ben's face all the time? 974 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,480 You know, she looks so angry. And she goes, Ben is fine. 975 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,600 You do not need to worry about Ben. 976 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,600 And she laughs. And, you know, I think her 977 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,560 response is kind of cute, but is it believable? 978 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,800 Like, does he really just have a resting grumpy face? 979 00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:01,520 I don't know. And so then in February, Ben is 980 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,960 featured heavily in her documentary This Is Me Now. 981 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,360 And he says about getting back together. 982 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,920 He says, listen, one of the things I don't want is a 983 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,080 relationship on social media. We're just two people with 984 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,080 different kinds of approaches trying to learn to compromise, 985 00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:21,120 which is interesting because, like, they are heavily on social 986 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,720 media. And then Jennifer says, I don't 987 00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:26,920 think Ben is very comfortable with me doing all of this, but 988 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,160 he loves me. He knows I'm an artist and he's 989 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,480 going to support me in every way he can because he knows you 990 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,800 can't stop me from making the music I made. 991 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,000 He doesn't want to stop me, but that doesn't mean he's 992 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,920 comfortable being my muse, which is, I don't know, like, I don't 993 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,320 even think Jlo writes her own song and. 994 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,040 Yeah, Drew. It's not like he is the 995 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,520 inspiration behind, like behind the songs, like he's in the 996 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,120 documentary, he's in the paparazzi photos, in the 997 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,760 Instagram post, in the newsletter. 998 00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,280 Like it's more than just like the songs are inspired by him. 999 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,800 Yeah. It's the the public image is 1000 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:08,200 curated around the relationship. I almost think that like Ben 1001 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:12,360 probably reached out because he could like after current a rod 1002 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,760 broke up. Yes. 1003 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,360 Like he just hit her up, took almost like a win in a way and 1004 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,040 like didn't think through like what that relationship actually 1005 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,800 meant. Probably not. 1006 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,120 So then in May, Jen attends the Met Gala solo. 1007 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:30,880 And this makes people think that maybe they are breaking up. 1008 00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:33,920 Fans also noticed that they haven't been photographed 1009 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:38,160 together in over a month, and there are more and more tabloid 1010 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,200 stories coming out. Page 6 alleges that an insider 1011 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,400 says if there was a way to divorce on the grounds of 1012 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,600 temporary insanity, he. As in Ben Wood, he feels like 1013 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,640 the last two years that were just a fever dream and he's come 1014 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,480 to his senses now and understands that there is no. 1015 00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:00,000 Way this is going to work. Temporary insanity. 1016 00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:03,440 Yep, so saying he had temporary insanity. 1017 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,680 I think so, yeah. My gosh. 1018 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,280 Fans also notice that on Instagram, Jennifer appears to 1019 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:15,360 like an infographic post that says you cannot build a healthy 1020 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,320 relationship with someone who dot, dot, dot. 1021 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,560 And then there's like all these slides and they say someone who 1022 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,200 lacks integrity and emotional safety. 1023 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,920 Someone who doesn't respect your time. 1024 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,840 Someone who doesn't think it's important to call or text back 1025 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,000 in a reasonable time frame. Someone who lacks effective 1026 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,280 communication skills equals silent treatment, withdraws or 1027 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,840 refuse to communicate unless it's on their own terms. 1028 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,640 Someone who doesn't know who they are or what they want. 1029 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,360 She's on the breakup infographic stage. 1030 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,160 That's true. I mean, it's telling that that 1031 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,320 is what her her discover page looks like. 1032 00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,200 Yeah. True. 1033 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,520 I mean, maybe you could say like, OK, if someone's in a 1034 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,560 healthy relationship now, maybe they would like a post like that 1035 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,640 because it reminds them of something from their past. 1036 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,480 I would maybe like a post like that because we cover all these 1037 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,600 couples all the time. So I always think about these 1038 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,200 things, but I think it's kind of telling. 1039 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,720 Yeah, so interesting, I know. Sources tell People magazine 1040 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,560 that they are living separate lives at this point, adding to 1041 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,080 the breakup rumors. At the end of the month, 1042 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,600 Jennifer cancels her summer tour, stating personal reasons 1043 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,320 and a desire to spend more time with family. 1044 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,800 However, it's being reported that the tour was already not 1045 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:44,480 selling well, in addition to her album being a total dud, only 1046 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:49,520 peeking at 38th on the chart. So people start speculating 1047 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,880 online that perhaps the divorce rumors are just now meant to 1048 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,440 distract from the embarrassment of the professional flop. 1049 00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,000 Oh man. Maybe, but I wrote in my notes. 1050 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,280 It's interesting if this is now when they're breaking up because 1051 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,120 they had broken up also when they had their movie flop 1052 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,880 together. True. 1053 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,680 It's like that's when they cannot go on anymore, OK? 1054 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,240 It's like they. Can't get through it. 1055 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,160 No, they really can't. And again, maybe it's like the 1056 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,800 break up is a way to like, OK, don't don't pay attention to my 1057 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,920 tour not selling well, like. Or like it didn't sell well 1058 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:32,800 because of exactly exactly it does give me second hand 1059 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,120 embarrassment. Or like, I know I do kind of 1060 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,400 hate, even though I'm not even a fan of Jlo's. 1061 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,440 I do hate to hear about like a tour not selling or you know, 1062 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,240 I'm totally flopping. It does give me. 1063 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,920 Well, especially in this stage when concert tickets are so hard 1064 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,640 to buy. Yeah. 1065 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,520 It upsets me so. Then later in June, it's 1066 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,120 reported that Ben has moved his things out of their shared 1067 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,560 mansion together. And a source says Ben continues 1068 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,720 to live at the Brentwood rental. He's been there for about two 1069 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,400 months now. He seems OK. 1070 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,440 He's been at the office every day and seems focused on work. 1071 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,480 He's also spending time with his kids. 1072 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,800 Meanwhile, he is photographed by paparazzi without his wedding 1073 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,000 ring while Jennifer is vacationing with friends in 1074 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,640 Italy without him. It's happening. 1075 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,040 I know. Then in July, the couple 1076 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,640 celebrated their the anniversary of their Vegas marriage. 1077 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,240 They celebrated that apart, so they didn't want to celebrate 1078 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,480 it. She was in the Hamptons with 1079 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,400 friends, where she spent most of the summer, and he was in LA. 1080 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,560 And during that trip to the Hamptons, Violet Affleck, Ben's 1081 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,080 oldest child, actually came and spent time one-on-one with 1082 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,880 Jennifer. I don't think it was, like, 1083 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,440 during their anniversary, but at some point that summer. 1084 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,680 And sources close to Jlo are claiming that it's hurtful that 1085 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,520 Ben, during this time, is no longer putting in any effort to 1086 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:04,240 maintain a relationship with her kids, Max and Emmy, And like, 1087 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,880 that he's just completely abandoned them. 1088 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,240 But I was also thinking about this. 1089 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,680 And, like, her kids are 16 at this point. 1090 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,240 She's been with Ben for less than two years. 1091 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,240 Like, yeah. Does he really have an 1092 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,080 obligation, I guess, to like be putting in, putting in an effort 1093 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,840 and like hanging out with them one-on-one or like without? 1094 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,520 Kind of weird. Yeah. 1095 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,720 They have a dad still too. Yeah. 1096 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,320 Yeah. I feel like that make me 1097 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,160 uncomfortable. Yeah, exactly. 1098 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,560 Honestly, yeah, if your parent was like on the rocks with 1099 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,240 someone, I wouldn't want to then spend time with that person. 1100 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,200 Yeah, I think he's maybe just for the best. 1101 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,800 If not, like, yeah, he seems really grumpy and troubled, too. 1102 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,000 Yeah, I wouldn't want to hang out with him if I was a 1103 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,600 teenager. Like you just want to hang out 1104 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,160 with your real dad. You know, yeah, exactly. 1105 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,840 I don't know how much of A parental. 1106 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,480 Yeah, exactly. This isn't going to last. 1107 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,800 We all know it. Exactly. 1108 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,120 I'm actually on Ben's side about this, and I am too. 1109 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,080 Oh. What I was going to say is like, 1110 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,760 I feel like getting upset about that is like, and you haven't 1111 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,080 even spent time with my kids. Like that's just using your own 1112 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:14,960 kids to like make the person still. 1113 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,680 I know your life. Is this really the problem you 1114 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:19,880 should be talking about right now? 1115 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,040 I'm sure there's others. Like the fact that you are on 1116 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,080 opposite coasts on your anniversary. 1117 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,680 Like, what about that? I hate to say this too, but I 1118 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,400 almost wonder if like she's hanging out with his kids to 1119 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,000 like still be close to him. Like to still be like oh, what's 1120 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,920 your dad doing? Or I don't know, maybe drag this 1121 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,480 out in a way maybe. He really doesn't want to see 1122 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,880 her right now and this is like her only way of making it 1123 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,200 publicly seem like they're still together. 1124 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,880 Yes, that's so true. Meanwhile, the couple lists 1125 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:56,080 their home for sale, while Ben purchased his his own $20 1126 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,520 million Beverly Hills home without her. 1127 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,480 So they're breaking up. Yeah, they are done. 1128 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,680 Pretty. Oh my gosh, the sign. 1129 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,480 Why? Why would he hang out with her 1130 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:06,920 kids? I know. 1131 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,280 He's like just a random guy basically. 1132 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,960 Exactly. They really haven't even been 1133 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,200 together that long. Like that's maybe if he's been a 1134 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,320 stepfather, stepfather for like 10 years in their lives from a 1135 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,080 formative age, but he's only known them when they've been 1136 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:26,360 teenagers. The Daily Mail also reports that 1137 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,360 Jennifer's mother and sisters are pushing her to file for 1138 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,240 divorce and to stop wasting any time on Ben. 1139 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,600 The source says Jennifer currently feels like Ben does 1140 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,560 not deserve her, and her sisters agree. 1141 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,360 They want Jennifer to be happy, of course, but they feel that 1142 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,520 her sister is getting so caught up in what is supposed to be 1143 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,120 that she isn't seeing it for what it is. 1144 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,600 They want her to file for divorce 1st and get on with her 1145 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,840 life, focus on her kids in her career. 1146 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,400 Wow. But sources are telling Page Six 1147 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,960 that Jennifer is still hoping to make things work with Ben, but 1148 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,280 that he is completely checked out and is fine with the 1149 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,680 marriage ending. What was the point? 1150 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,320 I know. Me loving you, you loving him. 1151 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,560 It frustrates me because we all saw this coming. 1152 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,840 I know. We all did. 1153 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,560 You didn't even have to know much about them to see this 1154 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:21,520 coming. So then, in August, on the exact 1155 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:26,120 two year anniversary of their Georgia wedding, Jennifer files 1156 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,120 for divorce. The exact anniversary. 1157 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,800 Like, come on, you do love the theatrics at that point. 1158 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,840 I know because we also, if you go back to our episode on 1159 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,120 Jennifer Gardner on the on their Vegas wedding, when they got 1160 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,160 their marriage certificate, he said that him and Jennifer 1161 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:48,120 Gardner had broken up like on that exact day like six years 1162 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,080 prior. So they do love to use these 1163 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:56,320 like anniversaries. Exactly 2 years, Yes, clean. 1164 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,120 So odd. Planned. 1165 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,400 I know exactly the contract expired. 1166 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,600 I don't know, but in her filing she listed the date of 1167 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:11,480 separation as April 26th, 2024. So it had been months before. 1168 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,440 So when we she attended the Met Gala solo. 1169 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,240 Like maybe they really were broken up at that. .0 Wow. 1170 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,360 However, there are a few times where they were photographed 1171 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,480 together since then by paparazzi with the kids. 1172 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,480 So it does seem like they were maybe still trying to give the 1173 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,000 appearance of being together. And for some reason, weirdly, 1174 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:35,000 this couple did not have a prenup, which makes the divorce 1175 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,240 a little tricky. You would think they would have 1176 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:38,760 like. Especially since this is not 1177 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,680 their first rodeo. It's like not their. 1178 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,160 This is love. This time this is real. 1179 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:46,200 So. Weird. 1180 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,680 Maybe that was temporary insanity. 1181 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,680 I know, sorry I'm being harsh. Normally I don't like prenup, 1182 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,800 like I think it's so not romantic at all. 1183 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,200 But these are definitely people that you would think would do 1184 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,400 that. So surprising. 1185 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,880 Maybe they knew it wasn't going to last that long and so they 1186 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,280 were like, let's not have a prenup to make it seem 1187 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:12,040 believable. Were they that aware? 1188 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:16,800 That seems like insane to me. I know, especially since this is 1189 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,840 literally her 4th or 5th marriage at this point, a 1190 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,880 source, AJ Lo source tells People magazine. 1191 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,600 The truth is there was a great deal of love, but also 1192 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,200 unfortunately, what became clear was that what were Ben's erratic 1193 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,240 mood swings that he couldn't hide from the press as much as 1194 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,320 he tried to. You could see the erratic 1195 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,000 behavior of the giant mood swings. 1196 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,040 He would go from incredibly happy and warm, the best light 1197 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,920 illuminated from him, to the deepest, darkest behavior. 1198 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,160 I think I was signaling. I think he was signaling a 1199 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,200 message to the press, but yet participating. 1200 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,640 I don't know what that means per SE, but kind of blaming it on 1201 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:57,120 him, which like, yeah, we do know that he seems to be Moody. 1202 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,840 It's kind of what you're saying, like sending signals but 1203 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,480 participating. Like he was participating in the 1204 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:08,880 whole media paparazzi charade thing but was just like in a bad 1205 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,360 mood throughout it all. Exactly. 1206 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:16,680 And like, in a way that is belittling her like, but you 1207 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:21,400 agreed to be a part of this. So on the bright side, it does 1208 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,000 seem like Jennifer Lopez is now friends with Jennifer Gardner. 1209 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:30,000 Like she's photographed leaving her house with and son Samuel. 1210 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,240 I guess I don't know why Jennifer Lopez is still 1211 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,040 maintained. I mean, it's not for me to say. 1212 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,080 I, I would think it would be super painful to have a step 1213 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:43,840 parent and then your step parent and your parent breaks up. 1214 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,440 It's like, is that person not a part of my life anymore? 1215 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,720 But what I'm saying is I don't know why Jennifer Lopez seems to 1216 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:55,520 be continuing this type of role with Ben's kids, but like, she 1217 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,360 didn't seemingly do that with a Rod's kids. 1218 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,480 Interesting. Who she had been with for longer 1219 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,240 a month. That is kind of strange. 1220 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,640 It seems, again, like maybe there's ulterior motives there 1221 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,440 because she gets photographed with Ben's kids and it does make 1222 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,680 people think like, oh, maybe they are still together. 1223 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,680 Yeah, What's going on? Yeah, it is nice that the two, 1224 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,439 Jennifer, seem to have a friendship. 1225 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:27,319 And then in August it's reported that Ben is being linked to Kick 1226 01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:31,479 Kennedy, who is the 36 year old daughter of Robert Kennedy 1227 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,359 Junior who was recently running for president. 1228 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,120 Apparently, the two had been spotted together in LA and the 1229 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,399 sources are saying that they are getting to know each other and 1230 01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:43,680 that they have been hanging out since June. 1231 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,800 But apparently, according to the Daily Mail, Ben and Kick 1232 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:51,160 actually had a brief fling years ago, before he and Jlo even 1233 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,279 reunited in 2021. My gosh. 1234 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:59,479 The source claims that they met because Ben is from Boston and 1235 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,720 when you live in Boston, the Kennedy family is royalty. 1236 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,000 When he started hanging out with Kik, he legit thought that he 1237 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,720 had landed into the Kennedy family, but she was too young 1238 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,800 and not ready for anything serious. 1239 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,800 Oh my gosh. Who knows if that's true, but 1240 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,040 again, that sounds pretty opportunistic. 1241 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,640 Does seem like he does care about how his personal life 1242 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,520 effects his image. Interesting. 1243 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,120 Of no, I guess Kick Kennedy does look a lot like Jennifer 1244 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,359 Gardner, his ex-wife. Just a little. 1245 01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:37,600 Bit yeah, must I do still think he like a part of him from our 1246 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,760 episode on Jennifer Gardner does see not I don't want to project 1247 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,560 my own feelings like as her being the one that got away, but 1248 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,359 that he probably does feel like he really fumble with her. 1249 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,680 Yeah, it seemed like it. And then in September, a photo 1250 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,960 is leaked of Jennifer holding Matt Damon's hand at the 1251 01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,400 premiere after party for her new movie, Unstable. 1252 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,560 I didn't know that. Yeah, not in like a romantic 1253 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,720 way, but it almost looks like she's confiding in him and that 1254 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,080 he's offering support. But sources say that he refused 1255 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,120 to talk about Ben with Jennifer. But who knows? 1256 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,600 Then she also attended the TIFF Film Festival and she's wearing 1257 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:20,800 a very revealing dress that shows off her bare rib cage and 1258 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,840 it appears as though her tattoo that she had gotten with Ben is 1259 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,080 now already removed. Wow. 1260 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,200 Because that's where it was like under like on her rib cage. 1261 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:34,480 But then September 14th, literally 2 days ago from the 1262 01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:37,640 time that we're recording this, Ben and Jen were spotted 1263 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,160 together, photographed together having brunch at the Beverly 1264 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,680 Hills Hotel with both all of their kids besides his oldest 1265 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:45,840 daughter. He's in college. 1266 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:47,520 Yeah, no, I'm serious. Why? 1267 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,400 According to sources, Ben and Jen were sitting at separate 1268 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,920 tables from the kids and were reportedly kissing and holding 1269 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:55,960 hands. Are you kidding me? 1270 01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:00,040 No, this, this is like fresh. This is like this is ridiculous. 1271 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,960 Yes, yes. So this is still going on. 1272 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,800 Why? Apparently like sources claim 1273 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,920 that they only got together for the kids sake so that the kids 1274 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,560 could have lunch together. But I feel. 1275 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:16,600 Like. You care. 1276 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,920 Yeah. See, I like, I think his child 1277 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:26,600 Finn is really close with her daughter Emmy, but they're 15. 1278 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,800 I think her kids are 16. They can hang out without the 1279 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,760 parents there. True. 1280 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,720 They don't need to be there. They don't need to be kissing. 1281 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:36,800 No, no, no, they definitely don't. 1282 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,160 And also, if you're hanging out for the kids, why are you 1283 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,120 sitting at a separate table for? My kids. 1284 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,120 It's not like they're they're gasping at the grunch. 1285 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,520 Anyway, like just have them run around somewhere. 1286 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,240 Exactly. No less at the Beverly Hills 1287 01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,200 Hotel, which, if there is anywhere where paparazzi might 1288 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,800 camp out, it is there. So true. 1289 01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,840 So apparently sources say that they are not getting back 1290 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:06,360 together and they just were there to discuss finances and 1291 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,880 have the kids like meet up. But again, the kids could meet 1292 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,920 up without them and I feel like it honestly would be more 1293 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,120 confusing for the kids the situation. 1294 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,480 What crazy lives they live, I know. 1295 01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:21,760 Truly. And I wrote like it's just funny 1296 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,560 how they keep saying stuff about the kids, the kids, but it does 1297 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,640 just seem so self motivated. It does. 1298 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,000 And that's it so far. I am feeling. 1299 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:36,360 More stuff could come out before this episode comes out, but 1300 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,880 yeah, that's that's Ben and Jennifer. 1301 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,720 For you, that was really fun, even though more stuff might 1302 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:49,240 come out, like I just don't buy it or it's it's a bad idea, but 1303 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,160 we might. We'll probably have a updates 1304 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,560 episode in the future. I can't believe that they were 1305 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,840 just seen together again. I know. 1306 01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:00,320 Seriously. I don't know, Like it's like who 1307 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,320 they think they're fooling. Like we do know that you did 1308 01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,720 file for divorce. Maybe they're just getting back 1309 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,680 together again, I mean. I know, I don't know, I don't 1310 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,960 want to be ageist, but it's like at your big age, like you guys 1311 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,400 should be a little mature, like you should have some 1312 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,640 self-control and be cautious and think about things. 1313 01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,520 It does seem like they just act on their every whim. 1314 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,240 It, it seems very like teenager, like early 20s or something to 1315 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,160 feel like you just have to run off with this guy that you have 1316 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,720 crazy feelings for, even though he has so many red flags. 1317 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,080 Like I think when you're older you don't do stuff like that 1318 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,400 because you're like, you know what, I'm good. 1319 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,400 Like I don't need to. I've had a lot of experiences 1320 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,320 already, like, yeah, I can find some. 1321 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,720 And she's Jlo like she could find somebody else. 1322 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,280 So it's just weird. It's just so selfish. 1323 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:54,280 Like I just honestly, like I said, I feel like especially for 1324 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,800 her kids, it's so traumatic that like your mom keeps having you 1325 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:03,680 adjust to these new family dynamics and and then like using 1326 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,520 you in them being like, Oh, the kids. 1327 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,320 It's I want to for like, how many times can you go through 1328 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,200 like a family divorce like that over and over again? 1329 01:14:11,480 --> 01:14:16,720 I know it is selfish so. But that's Benifer. 1330 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,880 Odds to get back together. Too high. 1331 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:25,400 So high really I, I would say like 70% maybe. 1332 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,960 I know, me too. I don't mean, I don't think 1333 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,920 it'll be forever, but I I could see them saying like we're 1334 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,120 giving it another go. Yeah, in her newsletter. 1335 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,640 Yeah, but then like a month later being broken up. 1336 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:40,360 Yeah. We'll see. 1337 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,200 We'll see. We'll see. 1338 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,680 I don't know who she dates from here, but I'm I'm I don't think 1339 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,800 that I don't think either of them will waste any time. 1340 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,880 I don't think what what about Kate Kennedy? 1341 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,720 I know exactly. Or I don't know. 1342 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:59,720 She actually, she was like, videoed by paparazzi walking on 1343 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,120 the street and they asked her about Ben Affleck and she just 1344 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,800 said no comment. So that's kind of telling in 1345 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,960 itself. No comment. 1346 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:13,120 But yeah, next episode we are also covering a couple from 1347 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,640 modern day. This one of the people in this 1348 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,600 episode actually was mentioned by name earlier in this episode 1349 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,800 at one point. It's a couple that had a short 1350 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,760 lived relationship. But also there have been some 1351 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,880 speculation about there being ulterior motives with this. 1352 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:37,040 Relationship. All right, I can't wait. 1353 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,400 Thank you, Mel. And thank you for listening it. 1354 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:46,040 Was so fun and thank you everybody else for listening. 1355 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,120 And we'll get back together next week. 1356 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:56,320 Is your heart filled with pain? Shall I come? 1357 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:08,320 Back again. Tell me, dear, are you alone?