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Last week I shared that I've 
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talk about mental health in the 
workplace and how being a mom of

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twins while running this podcast
really opened my eyes. 

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I shared with you that I hit a 
wall trying to juggle the 

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demands of motherhood, working, 
keeping up with recordings, and 

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maintaining that work life 
balance that I am literally 

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always preaching about. 
And between the responsibilities

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of being a working mom and my 
pack days, my. 

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Focus was just super. 
Scattered my sleep, frankly 

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wasn't really great, and I 
really just felt like I was 

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getting by. 
And that experience led me to 

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discover this concept of mental.
Wealth which I shared. 

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Has completely shifted. 
How I think about workplace 

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Wellness and instead of just 
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reactively mental. 
Wealth is about proactively. 

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Investing in your mental 
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Think of it as building a mental
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draw. 
From when work gets challenging,

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I've been exploring different 
tools and habits that support 

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this mental wealth building and 
I recently discovered something 

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that's become a game changer in 
my daily routine. 

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Magic Mind reached out and sent 
me their mental performance 

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shots and Sleep elixir to try, 
and what caught my attention was

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how they aligned with the five 
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Sleep, diet, exercise, stress 
management, and what they call 

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exogenous compounds. 
Basically the supplemental tools

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that help optimize your mental 
state. 

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So here's what's fascinating. 
They've created this 24 hour 

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approach to mental performance. 
The daytime shot helps with 

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focus and clarity. 
And I've been using this for my 

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morning podcast recordings, and 
I've noticed that I am much 

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sharper and much more present in
my interviews. 

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And then their Sleep Elixir 
helps you wind down and get 

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better rest, which we know is 
crucial for making good 

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decisions, especially in HR. 
And I should mention, I only 

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take vitamins. 
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relies on or frankly even 
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supplements. 
But Magic Mind has actually made

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an impact on me. 
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working with them until I had 
the. 

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Opportunity to truly. 
Test its efficacy and I've done 

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that and plus magic mind is 
vegan friendly so for someone. 

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Like me who keeps. 
Kosher. 

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This was really important, and 
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they're not positioning this as 
some miracle cure. 

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It's one piece of a larger 
mental wealth strategy. 

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The formula includes time 
release caffeine to avoid that 

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dreaded afternoon crash, and 
they've added specific herbs for

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stress reduction, which is 
honestly something we could all 

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use more of in HR Plus it 
doesn't. 

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Replace your regular. 
Caffeine routine, thank 

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goodness. 
So I drink the mental 

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performance shot alongside my 
morning coffee. 

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resilience, your team and your 
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Welcome to the Bringing the 
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podcast. 
I'm Tracy Chernoff, and I've 

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spent my entire professional 
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Each week, we'll explore the 
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and business with the aim to 
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meaningful outcomes. 
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experiences, challenge the 
status quo, and chat with guests

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from various industries about 
our mission to bring the human 

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back to human resources. 
Hi everyone, welcome back to the

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Bringing the human back to human
Resources podcast. 

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Thank you so much for being here
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And what you're listening to 
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we are recording in 2024, which 
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travellers, which is so 
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I will say I'm going to just 
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why does Tracy sound so weird, 
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speaking to you today, and we 
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Anthony Savellas on as a guest. 
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about Anthony and then we're 
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amazing information and content 
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So, without further ado, let me 
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Anthony. 
After successfully navigating 

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the vibrant fields of fashion 
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cloud engineering, cloud 
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inspiration and others. 
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leadership coach with a focus on
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happiness and empowerment, his 
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of personal and professional 
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Global engagements have seen him
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conferences around the world. 
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complemented by participation in
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Furthering an understanding of 
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empowerment. 
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prioritize their happiness in 
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empowers people to unlock their 
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This is not just his career, 
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the world a more inspired and 
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So, Anthony, welcome to the 
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Thank you so much for being 
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Thank you so much for having me,
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I'm so excited to be here. 
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Oh my gosh, likewise. 
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my face, which I know is a big 
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happiness, even though it's 
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do, why don't you kick us off by
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Because what I read in the bio 
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backgrounds that you possess. 
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the inner happiness, not the 
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somebody an ice cream cone and 
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you know, distraught again. 
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looking back into my career 
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as a fashion designer and I was 
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industry imploded here in Canada
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for broke to feed my family and 
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something very interesting 
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I share that with others so that
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'cause I, I'm, I'm always, I 
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happier at work, other people 
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So when when I started to do 
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where I found that people were 
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and fostered happiness. 
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my own framework, which is what 
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happiness that they can follow 
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happiness not just in their home
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I mean, one of the thoughts that
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knew this background, your 
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dawned on me that you've made a 
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really comes naturally to you, 
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hopefully be able to do one day.
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It's like, yeah, like this is 
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help people tap into the skills 
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way of thinking that can enable 
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I mean, it's, it's pretty cool. 
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about that before. 
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business. 
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that my mother had passed away. 
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reflecting on the learnings that
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want to share the learnings 
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we love the most to to others. 
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hidden underneath was my 
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gratitude. 
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father was very abusive. 
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that was my mother gave me these
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time. 
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telling me like a mantra, 
Anthony, you got to be happy 

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about what it is that you do. 
You got to be grateful for what 

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you have that others do not. 
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the face of adversity. 
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And she didn't really know about
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helped me navigate these chaotic
times through my career changes,

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through tough times when I was 
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navigating corporate culture, as
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these tools, I realized that 
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that I needed to share these 
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a way for them to action it. 
And that's where the Happiness 

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Blueprint just made so much 
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Yeah, thank you for sharing so 
openly what you're, what you 

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experienced as you were growing 
up and also what inspired you to

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really dig deep and figure out 
what you know, emboldens you and

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keeps you going every day. 
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ways that there isn't 
relatability to your story, but 

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I know realistically there 
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is going to feel represented by 

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you sharing your experiences and
hopefully will feel your your, 

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your mom's essence coming 
through and that you have to be 

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positive and you have to, you 
know, keep going and keep keep 

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looking forward and ahead. 
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And when I think about even kind
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corporate culture side of 
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is there can be a lot of chaos 
and chaos is extremely 

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unsettling, like extremely. 
And whether it's in our personal

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lives or in our professional, 
when there is that sense or 

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feeling of being unsettled there
it all it does is breed more 

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unsatisfied or dissatisfaction, 
more toxicity, more concern, 

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more culture issues. 
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my, my mom likes to say, it 
behooves us to make company 

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cultures and corporate cultures 
much more positive and much less

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chaotic, or at least if they are
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really be able to navigate that 
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So I guess with that, when, when
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kind of navigate it a little 
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start with it? 
Like what does the happiness 

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blueprint look like for someone 
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So over time, I have found that 

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there are 6 elements that allow 
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in in what it is that they do. 
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inspiration, mindset, 
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transformation. 
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at goals. 
What are we doing towards 

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building and challenging 
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And when we achieve them, are we
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them so that way we can get 
motivation to create more goals,

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right? 
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we're talking about positive 
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We're talking about embracing 
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the way that we've always done 
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Well, I'm sure you've heard that
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Too many to count. 
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at creating a learning mindset. 
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others by understanding our own 
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and why we're not doubling down 
on it because we can't be good 

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at everything. 
So why not double down on our 

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strengths and leave the rest to,
to others something that they're

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good at or maybe build new 
strengths, right Alliance, we're

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talking about relationships. 
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is a, a huge part of happiness. 
There's been so many studies, 

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latest study from Harvard, It 
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on happiness is that the quality
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You get to work and you're like,
Hey, you'll never guess what 

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happened over the weekend, 
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You have that work bestie where 
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them. 
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become a a personal 
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Why the heck are we going to 
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We just want to show up to just 
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Sure, we want to do our work. 
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same time we want to do it with 
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with. 
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OK, moving on into care. 
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the, the all time buzzword, 
psychological safety, right? 

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matter, to be empathetic with 
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Oh, don't worry about it, Tracy.
There's, there's a brighter side

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to this. 
No, people need to be empathetic

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and, and take into consideration
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And, and this way, it opens up 
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voicing their opinions, but it 
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innovation. 
Because now we can fail and we 

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can fail with with grace, right?
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all about measuring and 
iterating. 

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So we all love to measure things
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feedback. 
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feedback, you should always 
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I? 
What did I do good? 

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What can I work on and do better
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concentrating on where your 
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others, it doesn't mean that 
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doing bad. 
It just means that your focus is

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somewhere else. 
So now you can see where are my 

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gaps. 
So if I'm not building 

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relationships at work, maybe 
alliance is something that I 

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need to look into. 
Or if I'm using negative phrases

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like, you know, oh, well, if so 
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I'm sure you've heard that a few
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Yeah. 
So taking out that negative 

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mindset can now bring us space 
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So once you start noticing the 
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taking action or creating action
steps to improve, to bring more 

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happiness and bring more you 
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fulfilled that you're actually 
doing good and you want to show 

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up to work and Mondays are no 
longer mundane. 

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Yeah, yeah, this is a great 
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I first of all, I love that 
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at this and you kind of talked 
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you've noticed a gap in your own
experience at work that that can

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help you. 
Obviously, you know, you meaning

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generally that can help someone 
that can help one, to basically 

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figure out where they need to 
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energy and attention. 
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I guess words that start stood 
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care. 
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the biggest thing that I put 
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you know, sense of needing to 
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the workplace, especially 
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relationships that help someone 
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Difficult situations. 
It helps them navigate their 

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careers, it helps them grow, it 
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whatever it might be. 
And I think one of the things 

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that continues to be a thread 
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this emphasis on building really
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Because someone could have a lot
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workplace, they might not all be
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So I always like to say trusting
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have empty ones. 
So I love that Alliance is one 

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of those key monikers and care, 
you know, you said it, it's a 

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buzzword or a buzz phrase, 
psychological safety. 

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It's true. 
But I love, love, love that you 

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brought it back to innovation 
because and that feeling of 

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being able to make mistakes 
because this, this, I feel like 

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this is probably going to be my 
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talking about it a lot. 
I know you heard it here first. 

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I, I, I recently did a 
presentation for a women's 

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networking group and I talked 
about how building a culture of 

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innovation inspires and fosters 
deeper employee engagement and 

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drives business results without 
you even having to think about 

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it. 
Because at the end of the day, 

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and it's very, very much on the 
nose with what you've said and 

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what you've shared from your 
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people feel safe enough to make 
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where progress happens. 
That's where innovation pulls 

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through. 
And you know, it's funny because

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I often, I don't know if, if you
feel this way, you probably 

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think about this way more than I
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I sometimes I'm like if someone 
asked me for an example on from 

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when I failed at something, it 
would be kind of hard for me to 

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find something. 
Not because I've never failed, 

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because obviously everyone fails
at something, but because I 

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because I've never like really 
spent a ton of time thinking 

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about my failures. 
And when I really like confront 

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that within myself, I'm like, I 
kind of feel like that's because

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I don't allow myself to fail, 
but actually failing is a really

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important part of success, 
right? 

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Actually, I know it's. 
If you don't mind, Tracy, I want

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to take this moment to focus on 
that just for one second. 

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Now, there's an exercise that I 
love to do with others and that 

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is to write out a failure 
resume. 

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So going through all of your, 
your jobs, your past history and

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writing down the failures that 
you had in those jobs. 

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And when you start sharing those
as a team, you see how 

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ridiculous it is because 
everyone has failed, right? 

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So when you do that, even with 
yourself, then you can start to 

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see the positive side. 
You can start to see, what did I

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learn from that? 
Oh my God, that's how I got to 

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this area. 
That's how I got to this place. 

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Hmm, I'm gonna have to do this. 
I, I, I'm gonna write my failure

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resume and maybe by the time 
this is out, I'll be able to 

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post it on Instagram or 
something like here. 

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All the times I failed, you 
know, it's, it's so important 

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like let's be like even more on 
the nose about this. 

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Like the one of the things that 
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like failure or like fear of 
failure is that people have an 

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incredible sense of of self, 
right. 

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Like this is I've just shared 
that I I almost don't allow 

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myself to go there because of my
pride. 

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That's basically what I've just 
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So if I right, yeah, ego. 
So if we all like take a, a part

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our, you know, bring inflate our
egos just a little bit, we 

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actually will probably manage to
drive our careers forward even 

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faster. 
You know, there's, there's so 

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much in that. 
Like when I think about the 

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beauty that comes with finding 
through these alliances, through

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these trusted relationships, an 
opportunity to hear feedback to,

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to make changes to our, you 
know, the way that we work or 

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the way that we act or the way 
that we do things. 

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It's in those moments where it 
might not, we might not realize 

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it, but there's some semblance 
of failure. 

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And that's OK. 
That's not inherently a bad 

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thing. 
It just means that through that 

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feedback, we haven't this 
opportunity to make huge changes

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or differences in the ways that 
we work. 

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And, and I, I often think about 
like playing sports in high 

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school, for example, or just 
like growing up and I'm, I was a

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catcher in softball pretty much 
my whole life. 

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And I, whenever I think about 
failure, I know, fun fact, 

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right? 
Whenever I think think about 

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failure, I actually like I it's 
hard, as I've shared, it's hard 

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for me to figure out or find 
something from a professional 

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experience, but my mind always 
goes to my batting average. 

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And my sophomore year of high 
school, it was miserable, 

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Miserable I. 
Mean Tracy, you also have to 

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look at it as when you accept 
the things that you know you 

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failed at or you know you you 
didn't do so well at, that 

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actually allows you to show up 
more authentically. 

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True. 
When you can do that, when 

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everyone on your team can do 
that, it becomes so beautiful 

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because now everyone's just 
showing up as they are. 

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No one's hiding. 
Anything. 

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Totally. 
Where were you when I was on a 

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sophomore in high school? 
It took me, it took me a whole 

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season to realize nobody 
actually cares what you're like.

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Just do, you know, just just do 
what you're just apply your 

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skills and don't worry about 
what everyone thinks and just do

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it. 
And you know, like, I don't 

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know, it's funny because as like
I've been reflecting on like 

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growing up a lot recently and 
it's like you grow up and you 

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think that everyone is watching 
you and judging you and thinking

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about all the every single thing
that you're doing. 

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But actually you are your own 
worst critic and failure is 

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totally OK. 
Exactly. 

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Am I off base with that? 
Am I right? 

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Yeah. 
No, no, you're absolutely right.

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And well, I mean, we also have 
to look at it as you know, if if

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you didn't fail, then you 
wouldn't learn and you wouldn't 

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grow. 
Totally and. 

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When you don't grow, you die. 
Yeah, that's true. 

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Like every other plant or living
thing. 

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Exactly, Exactly. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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It's a really. 
Good point. 

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Cares about what you know, what 
award you won that day, or or 

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even if you did win an award and
everyone's clapping for you that

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one day, the next day no one 
cares. 

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That's right, nobody cares. 
I don't know if you watched 

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Schitt's Creek when I mean it 
actually is a Canadian show 

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right? 
So you probably didn't. 

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I'm in my like 3rd or 4th 
rewatch at this point and this 

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phrase of like nobody cares 
takes me back. 

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This is very nuanced. 
Takes me back to the episode of 

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where David Rose is getting his 
license because he let it expire

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and he's so freaked out and 
Alexis is sitting in the 

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passenger seat and she's like 
David, nobody cares. 

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And he's like, what do you mean 
everybody cares? 

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And she's like David nobody 
cares. 

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And it pans to the you know, he 
kicks her out of the car and it 

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pans to the scene where he's on 
the road test and the the 

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driving instructor in the 
passenger seat is a DJ and would

456
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much rather be doing that 
because he was on his phone the 

457
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whole time. 
And David passed his Rd. test 

458
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and he realized nobody actually 
cares. 

459
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And so like, I realized this is 
like a little bit facetious, but

460
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it's something that like, as we 
grow and as we like swallow our 

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pride, we find more humility. 
We learn from one another. 

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We, you know, practice some 
additional empathy in the 

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workplace. 
Like, you know, this is where 

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these are the learning moments 
where we realize, like everyone 

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is very concerned with 
themselves and all we can do is 

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our best and support those 
around us to do their best. 

467
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You know, that's another shit's 
key Greek reference for us. 

468
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,000
So another thing I wanted to 
point out, Tracy, is that the 

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Happiness Blueprint doesn't just
work at work. 

470
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It actually works at home too, 
like in. 

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Your oh I love. 
That, yeah. 

472
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So when you think about things 
like inspiration, well, how do 

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you get inspired? 
I mean, when you set a goal for 

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yourself, you know, whatever the
case may be here, you know, 

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January 1st coming up, chances 
are somebody's going to want to 

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lose weight. 
I want to lose 10 lbs. 

477
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,160
And you get inspired, you get 
sparked, you're like, yeah, I'm 

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going to do this. 
Now, a lot of times people fall 

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off, and that's OK. 
But with a lot of our goals that

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are very important to us, it 
drives us, right? 

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So, you know, using the 
Happiness Blueprint in a 

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personal capacity can really 
bring forth a lot of happiness. 

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I love that. 
And you know what, it's 

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probably, I mean, I'm going out 
on a limb here and you can 

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00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,040
totally correct me if you think 
I'm wrong, but it's probably 

486
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more important in some ways to 
get this, you know, down to a 

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science in some ways personally 
before thinking about the 

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professional. 
Because otherwise it's probably 

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a little bit inauthentic, right?
If we're, you know, focusing on 

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all of these things like 
building trusting relationships,

491
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,680
finding inspiration, practicing 
empathy, if we're not going to 

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do those things at home and or 
for ourselves or with the right.

493
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,800
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, I love that. 

494
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I love something that can be 
applied full circle 360 without 

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regard to whether you're at home
or at work. 

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00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,360
And some cases home is work. 
Like for most of us, or at least

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00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,200
you and I, I think home is work.
And you know, it's, it's nice to

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00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,080
know that, you know, people can 
kind of take this as blueprint. 

499
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,280
I was thinking of another word, 
but actually blueprint is the 

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00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,840
perfect word, which is why it is
called the happiness blueprint. 

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00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,400
And they can take it in and 
apply it to their lives. 

502
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,240
So I'm curious, I know we, we 
are just about a time here, but 

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I'm curious how you have learned
from your own blueprint. 

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00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,920
Like have you found throughout 
your life or throughout your 

505
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,560
experience as a professional 
where you kind of had to fill 

506
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,920
some gaps or you you noticed 
that you were kind of moving 

507
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:19,480
away from one of those mantras? 
Yeah, So people always ask me, 

508
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,160
they're like, Anthony, how many 
times do you go through the 

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00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,560
happiness blueprint and rate 
yourself? 

510
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,600
And for me, I rate myself once 
1/4. 

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00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,200
So I look at, you know, what am 
I doing with regards to like 

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00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,320
feedback? 
I don't solicit feedback enough,

513
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,760
right? 
Ever since I started my 

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00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,680
business, I, I focused less on 
inspiration. 

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00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,920
And there came a point where I'm
like, why do I feel so black? 

516
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,120
It's because I had no goals. 
I had nothing to motivate me, 

517
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,160
right? 
Where I really shine was 

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00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,600
relationships. 
And I've always shine in that 

519
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,200
element because relationships 
mean so much to me, right? 

520
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,560
But yeah, I, I do it every 
quarter just to check on myself,

521
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,680
to see how I'm doing, where I 
can work on what are the gaps 

522
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:21,600
and, you know, to, to, to make 
me a happier person. 

523
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,360
Because if I'm happier, then I 
show up happier. 

524
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,080
I show up happier for my family.
I show up happier for my 

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00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,360
friends. 
Even when I'm up on stage, I 

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00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,760
show up happier. 
Yeah, that's amazing. 

527
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,520
So, so yeah, it's, it's, it's 
something that I love to do 

528
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,560
regularly. 
And you know, now that I've 

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00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:52,320
understood how it branches off 
on a personal level, I've also 

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00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,800
launched a program for leaders. 
So that way they can do it too, 

531
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:02,440
because naturally the if you're 
a leader in a, in a company and 

532
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,040
you have, you know, you support 
however many teams you support, 

533
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,680
they're looking at you to be the
model. 

534
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:16,160
What can I get away with? 
And if you're not showing up as 

535
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,680
you, as your most happiest self,
as your most engaged and 

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00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,720
fulfilled self, then chances are
your team won't be doing the 

537
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,880
same thing. 
Totally. 

538
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,920
It's really so true. 
There's a there is a lot of 

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00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,320
observation that happens when a 
team is observing their, you 

540
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,800
know, is looking at their leader
there, you know, you kind of are

541
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,520
in a fishbowl and they're have, 
it's like, sorry, not sorry. 

542
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,440
But if you didn't know that when
signing up for the job, you know

543
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,120
it now. 
Everyone's watching every like 

544
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,840
just like we said before, nobody
cares. 

545
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,880
Actually, when you become a 
leader, everybody cares and you 

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00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:02,920
kind of have to model all of the
things that you want to see that

547
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,960
you need to see that you want 
your team to care about. 

548
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,159
All of you know, that's that's 
kind of the stencil for 

549
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,120
everything is that person in 
that role. 

550
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,520
So that's a great point and I 
love to hear that you're helping

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00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,520
leaders specifically. 
I think leadership training and 

552
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:25,199
coaching in general tends to be 
not always like a first, a first

553
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,199
thing for companies sometimes to
look at, you know? 

554
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,639
Yeah, exactly. 
So maybe sometimes we gotta 

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00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:35,280
start at the leadership level, 
you know, and then let it all 

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00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,280
trickle down. 
But Anthony, thank you so much 

557
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,480
for bringing some happiness and 
joy to the podcast this week. 

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00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,760
I totally knew this was going to
be an amazing conversation, as I

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00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,280
really believe it was. 
And I'd love for you to have a 

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00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,840
moment here to share with the 
listeners where they can connect

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00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,320
with you, get more information 
on the Happiness Blueprint for 

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00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,520
themselves, or even work with 
you potentially. 

563
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,000
And everything will be in the 
show notes too. 

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00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,880
Yes. 
So for those of you who don't 

565
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,880
know, I live on LinkedIn, so you
can always reach me on LinkedIn.

566
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,400
I'm always looking at my DMS if 
you want to connect with me. 

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00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,800
If you have any questions about 
inner happiness and how to 

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00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,400
foster more of it, feel free to 
reach out. 

569
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,640
You can also reach me on 
Instagram at Smiling Bow Tie or 

570
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,640
you can go old school and reach 
out to me on my website at 

571
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,400
smilingbowtie.com. 
And there you can also find 

572
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,280
information on the Happiness 
Blueprint, how you can define 

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00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,960
your happiness blueprint. 
I have a link there where you 

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00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,800
can download a a Canva template 
and you can evaluate yourself. 

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00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,880
And this way you can find your 
gaps so that you can take 

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00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,640
action. 
I love that. 

577
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,760
Yeah, and you can also find my 
coaching there as well for if 

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00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,280
you're a a leader in tech tech 
specifically just because I 

579
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,360
worked in the tech industry for 
20 years. 

580
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,600
So I understand the challenges 
that tech leaders have. 

581
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,320
I have a coaching program for 
you. 

582
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:17,200
So if you're looking to foster 
more engagement and fulfillment 

583
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,720
in your role, I know a lot of 
leaders don't get enough 

584
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:27,280
training and attention that they
need in order to best find what 

585
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,280
is their leadership style. 
I'm here for you. 

586
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,600
I got you, I got your back. 
There you go. 

587
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,880
There you go. 
Yes. 

588
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,640
And for those of you who are 
looking for a more 

589
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:45,640
organizational approach, I also 
come in, do workshops, I also do

590
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,640
keynotes and it can start off as
a keynote, go into a workshop, 

591
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,840
maybe some coaching afterwards. 
It's I look at it as a holistic 

592
00:36:55,160 --> 00:37:00,640
view of how we want to foster 
more engagement in our 

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00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,680
workplace. 
It doesn't just stop at keynote 

594
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,040
speaking. 
It doesn't just stop at 

595
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,280
coaching, but it's it's like a 
whole gamut of different things 

596
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,760
that can be for different 
organizations. 

597
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,680
Amazing, amazing stuff. 
I think what you're doing is 

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00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,520
fabulous and I'm excited to 
continue to see all the amazing 

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00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,520
things that you do. 
And as I mentioned, all of those

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00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,040
links and everywhere for the 
listeners to connect with you 

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00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,200
will be in the show notes. 
Anthony, thank you so much for 

602
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,000
joining the podcast. 
I really appreciate it. 

603
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,640
Thank you, Tracy. 
I appreciate you. 

604
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,400
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