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In the beginning, we're back. 
Courtney, where are you? 

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Where are you? 
We're doing this remotely today.

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Where are. 
You it's one of those weeks. 

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I'm I'm in Port Stephens at the 
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yesterday. 
Beautiful part of the world. 

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Hey, you remember when I sent 
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world champion acrobatics plane,
and you chucked up? 

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Hmm. 
Remember that? 

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Remember that? 
Well, I went up with Matt Hall 

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yesterday and the Red Bull 
acrobatics. 

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Fine. 
Yeah. 

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Do you want to talk? 
I did. 

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I. 
Didn't I? 

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Didn't Chuck up. 
But you know what? 

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I also wimped out. 
I only went to six G's so. 

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OK, quick, quick catch up for 
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Matt Hall. 
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Bull playing, racing between 
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you've been to any event on the 
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anywhere in Australia for that 
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making it do all that incredible
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And yeah, what was it probably 
two years ago now, Courtney, you

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extended me an invitation to go 
and have a ride in Matt Ball, in

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Matt Hall's Red Bull plane. 
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get, we'll get the footage. 
I'll get you the footage of what

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happened to me, because Matt did
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It ruined me for the day. 
Like I was gone. 

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I threw up in the plane. 
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I threw up when I got out of the
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I threw up on the drive back to 
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I I just, I was green. 
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did it, but never again. 
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I've sent probably 20 people up 
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briefings and I've managed to 
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And, and the irony of it is I 
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Red Bull. 
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to go and do it. 
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But I survived. 
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with doing some stuff with. 
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I'm on a I'm on a filming trip 
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out towards Lightning Ridge. 
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I flipped over to Mauritius not 
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idea where Mauritius was? 
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idea where Lightning Ridge was 
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I thought Lightning Ridge was 
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looking at a map, it's up. 
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nearly, so I may as well drive 
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Right, so you're, you're out and
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Subaru. 
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have some stuff to talk about 
next week. 

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But let's jump into the biggest 
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And it's not tomorrow's London 
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It's not last weekend's Boston 
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We want to talk a little bit 
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It is Strava. 
Strava and, and what they 

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acquired this this week, I 
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And that's the runner app. 
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there's not a lot of information
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they've just acquired it. 
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going to integrate it or, or how
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But it's funny because the 
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really heard of it until we 
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podcast and you know, we'd turn 
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this thing called the runner app
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They've got a podcast 
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Australia, but is he obviously a
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those who use the AI, is it an 
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So and here they go. 
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by Strava. 
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their runs, what their training 
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for your training needs. 
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that sort. 
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just profit off the fact that 
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around, you know, obviously 
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$80.00 a year for the premium 
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more expensive than a Strava 
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which then makes me think, you 
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great thing for running and, and
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having a coach and having 
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everything's, you know #1 but 
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big benefit to most people. 
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Strava's year and sport data, 
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release is the one that grabs me
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particular returning to running 
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connection, which has then 
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participation with 43% of Strava
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race or event in 2025, which is 
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training plans. 
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immediately goes Strava and 
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adventure race of note and 
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community to be a part of online
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platform, it really puts this on
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the world, there is has been a 
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the Boston Marathon, which is 
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on the the running calendar. 
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saying his surname correctly. 
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the men's race in 2/04/45. 
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Sharon Lake Eddy in 2/17/22, 
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record for Sharon. 
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men's race winner, I'm not sure 
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there's a, there's a real going 
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the race. 
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through the elite in the elite 
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himself up off the deck and then
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I just, I loved it because I was
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for running in general. 
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see that one, Liam. 
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you're not feeling great at the 
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You can relax, you can regroup, 
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and you know even the best look 
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can come back. 
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finishing 11th. 
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And but I wanna talk about as we
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really want to lean into it now 
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storyline heading into this. 
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Yee, we've talked a bit about 
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triathlon. 
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Hayden Wilde, the New Zealand 
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It was one of the moments of the
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I've got some comments that I 
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that he's done that I want to 
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But first up, how do you feel 
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incredible time to, I think he's
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But I mean, are you interested 
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for this story. 
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on the Grapevine as well, 
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forgotten his name, but the 
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against as a junior and they 
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He's racing as he's head kind of
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of guy as well. 
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within that itself. 
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to go out by the sounds of it 
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that's what he's training is 
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towards, I think it's super 
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Look, even if he gets out and 
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crack, everyone's going to, 
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be interested who follow 
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the US and they'd done a couple 
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to get 10K times. 
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So yeah, it's super exciting 
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I just want to share he's done 
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going to read through some 
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heading into this. 
I think he's done this interview

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with the Guardian. 
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source? 
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about the unknown. 
As elite athletes, we're used to

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hurting ourselves and going 
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probably quite looking forward 
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kind of pain. 
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as part of an Iron Man. 
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Iron Man. 
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little bit about the pain 
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redlining during an an Olympic 
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experience in the London Marrow?
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in the Olympic distance, we're 
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You're at that red line, but 
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swim. 
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only running. 
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running for that 10K. 
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breakdown in those single 
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Alex will go and face in a 
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like I mean, in the Iron Man, 
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you're nowhere near the speed of
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different, I suppose, feeling 
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marathon is simply, you know, 
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I heard he's still swimming 5 
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he's going to go into that with 
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runner there. 
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what he probably hasn't even 
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that some of the others will do 
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muscle for just over 2 hours and
how does that breakdown? 

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should be fine to get through, 
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It's then how do you face that 
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marathon as I know have been at 
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Australia, they all say the same
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You know, it comes down like a 
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all matters in that last 10K. 
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say in this interview, he's 
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the London course and he's gone 
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pace for that 30 KS. 
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unknown. 
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reasons I'm doing the race, to 
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It's a massive stab in the dark 
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to try this win, lose or draw. 
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growth, hopefully physical 
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love, we're jumping ahead. 
We normally save a bit of shoe 

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chat and gear chat to the end of
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in quickly here before I get to 
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Marathon. 
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through what was on the the feet
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So in the in the men's race, 
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it was running Meta speeds, 
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and the bronze were both wearing
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Sharon Laketi, the winner was 
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Elite 3, so she was wearing 
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Second was wearing on Cloud Boom
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was wearing Nike Alpha Flies. 
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the podium in Boston. 
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event has said keep an eye on 
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the marathon As I've been 
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Balance on a new shoe. 
I've been involved in the little

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with the development and testing
and it makes me feel like I'm in

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the best shoe for the marathon. 
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Alex is wearing on his feet in 
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I'm I cannot wait to see what 
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, everyone's 
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They so many companies are 
dropping them so much faster, 

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these super shoes at the moment 
and they keep coming. 

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It makes me think I just going 
off on a tangent. 

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New shoes at the moment, Jordan.
So night Jordan just did a great

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YouTube clip of the trial of 
Luca. 

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I think, I think the 
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I've got that right, but 
literally he's just got a new 

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shoe and they did a 7 minute. 
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Done a 7 minute video about he's
the bad guy basketball, but the 

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jury kind of can't get over his 
shoes and that his shoes 

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overcome his Vadnais all the 
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brilliant. 
That made me think of running at

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the same time, because at the 
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race on, like you just said, you
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what shoes they're wearing. 
We've often said on the podcast 

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that we don't know necessarily 
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you can all because this, you 
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the names as much unless you're 
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marathoning. 
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you're a beginner or you're in 
the intermediate or like us 

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talking about it, everyone wants
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wearing. 
So the shoe nearly becomes more 

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important than the name 
sometimes in these cases. 

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But when you put the shoe and 
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the magic happens. 
So I'll be really interested to 

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see this New Balance shoe. 
Well, I mean maybe may, you 

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know, we saw Noah Lyles after he
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last year. 
He said he wants a shoe and he 

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doesn't want a track shoe. 
He wants a trainer, a Jordan 

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style. 
He wants a name branded trainer.

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Maybe tomorrow we see Alex Yee 
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New Balance. 
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We'll we'll keep an eye on that,
but let's move on because we 

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Speaking of equipment, Speaking 
of gear, I don't know how to 

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describe this best, but I want 
to share a message with people 

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that we got on the the show page
Claudio. 

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Claudio has messaged the podcast
and said hello, Courtney and 

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Liam. 
My name is Claudio or Claudio. 

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I live in Madrid. 
Shout out to our Spanish 

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listeners, Claudio has said. 
I started listening to the 

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podcast when it appeared in my 
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Australia. 
Thank you to Spotify, thank you 

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to Apple Podcast for pushing out
our podcast to international 

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business when they come to town,
Claudio said. 

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I have listened all the episodes
already and right now I'm 

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tapering for my first marathon 
ever in Madrid through the 

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course. 
Tough course, hopefully goes 

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well. 
Awesome Claudio, this is great 

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news I'm excited to see. 
Please tell us how you go in 

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your marathon. 
But this is what I want to get 

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to. 
Claudio said. 

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I was scrolling through 
Instagram and saw a post from 

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Ivan Rainier or Rana, an old 
school Spanish athlete who 

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competed against our very own 
Courtney Atkinson. 

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Courtney, how do you feel about 
your old style? 

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I'm sure some young fellas would
think this is quite trendy 

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nowadays. 
Courtney, you do the editing on 

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this. 
I insist that right now this 

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photo gets put up of you in your
Dick stickers and a tight bond 

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looking singlet. 
And what I mean, talk us through

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the look and what do you 
remember this race? 

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Do you remember Ivan? 
Tell us about this picture. 

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Oh. 
My I, I saw Ivan actually tagged

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me on this. 
So I saw it myself and I posted 

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it. 
And I don't often post old 

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things that have happened in the
past, but so this was back in 

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2000 and Ivan was pretty much 
around World juniors was, you 

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know, my main competitor, I 
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that time. 
And we we made the we made the 

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jump, I suppose, into the senior
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So this was a World Cup at the 
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years of our of age. 
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looking at is what we're wear, 
what we're wearing, right? 

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So yes, we did race in Dick 
Toks. 

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That's number one #2 though, and
why I was more and more 

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interested in the thing. 
And thanks, Claudio, for saying,

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Courtney, you won the race, so 
don't let Liam embarrass you. 

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So I can't remember this race. 
I do know it was in a place 

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called Ishigaki. 
And I did win a lot in. 

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I had a good run of World Cups 
down in Ishigaki. 

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So tangent, Ishigaki, for those 
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You think Ishigaki's an island 
in Japan? 

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Most people know Okinawa. 
So right down in the South, like

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right in the southern islands of
Japan. 

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Now Ishigaki is right over 
towards TA, Taiwan. 

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It's miles away from Japan, but 
still in Japan. 

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So it's like a tropical island 
that we'd go once a year to go 

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and racing. 
What I mean here though is a 

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pair of speed dealer, Oakley, 
It's just like you, I showed you

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last week. 
What everyone's been telling me 

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is this is exactly what Gen Z 
are wearing right now out there.

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Pretty much 5 panel hats, 5 
panel hats, pair of speed 

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dealers. 
OK, maybe not the Dick stickers,

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but you know, singlets nearly 
shirts out. 

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This is this is vintage. 
But they were like they say hey,

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everything vintage comes back 
round and this is in fashion 

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right now. 
But we'll let I'll put the 

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picture up and we'll let 
everyone decide. 

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Yeah, well, just quickly. 
So what year was this? 

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This would have been 2000 so. 
Yeah. 

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OK. 
So by that metric, what we need 

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to do, what the podcast needs to
do in the beginning, we need to 

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go and check out what you were 
wearing. 

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We need to go into your archives
and figure out what you're 

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rolling in sort of 2005 because 
that's what's gonna come. 

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That's what's gonna be hot again
next. 

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That's what in the beginning, if
we start doing some merch from 

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the podcast Courtney, it needs 
to be whatever you were racing 

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in in about 2005. 
Alright, I've got some homework 

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then. 
Triathlon definitely are always 

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what would you say? 
Never been shy of lycra, have 

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they? 
And this is this is pre pre full

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lycra days. 
This is where we're wearing 

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Pretty Little. 
I'll tell you what, when you 

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crashed you knew it. 
He had skin coming off 

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everywhere. 
Ohh. 

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Can can I ask then, before we 
move on from this, do you what's

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the worst crash you've ever had?
Like what's the most in terms of

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bark off the legs and the arms? 
What was the worst one you ever 

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had? 
The. 

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Worst one, actually, the worst 
crash I ever had was probably my

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first crash and I remember it 
plain as day coming. 

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And those who are on the Gold 
Coast and right around the Gold 

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Coast will know the first corner
on Springbrook after the water 

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tower. 
And it's literally, it's a 

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sweeping left hander. 
I'd never come down a mountain 

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in my life. 
I reckon I would have been 

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probably 1415 riding in a pair 
of trackies of all things. 

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And I came around that first 
sweeper and just literally laid 

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the bike down straight across 
the gravel, sorry, straight 

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across the bitumen, straight 
across the gravel into the 

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grass. 
And I read that that's how you 

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learn. 
I mean, crashes really. 

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In the end, you learn from it. 
OK, can't go that far next time.

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And, and here you go. 
But I reckon I did another 

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thousand repeats up Springbrook 
over my lifetime and that was 

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the only crash I had on that 
one. 

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All right, quickly before we 
move on to loose ends and I've 

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actually got a first ever 
unboxing to do here on in the in

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the beginning podcast. 
Do we need to fix the store 

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gift? 
Oh. 

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Look, I'm gonna be transparent. 
I did not watch the store gift, 

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but I've seen the aftermath of 
it. 

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I OK, I'm gonna tell a story 
first before we get into this. 

447
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I had a masua back in. 
I had a masua who, I won't say 

448
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,680
his name. 
He came from Melbourne, came 

449
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,720
back up to the Gold Coast and 
every week, this is probably 

450
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,520
through the early days of my 
Olympic campaigns, I'd go up the

451
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,880
surface, get a rub off him. 
Now he coached, he was A and he 

452
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,040
was the coach of the VFL 
boundary umpires. 

453
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,960
So he's pretty handy runner 
himself was a good coach. 

454
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,800
He also used to get those 
boundary umpires ready for the 

455
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,040
store gift. 
Not in the hundreds, but it's a 

456
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,880
similar situation in the mile 
and the 3000. 

457
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,160
Now they used to. 
Now this is where I know it's 

458
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,600
like a bit rotted. 
They used to, some of those 

459
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:13,560
runners would nearly fox or 
sandbag in golfers terms for up 

460
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,800
to two years to make sure their 
handicap was ready for that one 

461
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,480
day and then all the money would
come lying down on them on that 

462
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,080
day. 
It was a it was a scheme, it was

463
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,480
a scam. 
Now, I don't know if it still is

464
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,440
right now, I don't know that 
information, but what can I can 

465
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,920
tell you is where there's money 
and where there's bedding, 

466
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,120
there's always going to be some 
funny business. 

467
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,400
So if and if you're like one of 
those, if you're like Courtney 

468
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,840
and you actually didn't, you're 
not across the what happened at 

469
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,800
stall over the Easter long 
weekend. 

470
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:50,280
I love the the heritage. 
I love the nostalgia of stall. 

471
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,640
I love the fact that it's this 
iconic athletics meet in the 

472
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,120
middle of nowhere. 
The town has nothing else all 

473
00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:00,880
year round except for this 
Easter racing weekend. 

474
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,240
It's cold as charity. 
I just I love it. 

475
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,200
I do love the all the 
storytelling around this event, 

476
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,480
but everything needs to 
progress, everything needs to 

477
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,680
move forward. 
And if we don't adapt, things 

478
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,600
die. 
And I wonder whether what we 

479
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,400
just witnessed this year with 
the race is the sign that the 

480
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,840
stall gift needs to adapt. 
And I'm talking about the fact 

481
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,640
that the most exciting sprinters
that we've had in the history of

482
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,560
Aussie sprinting for who knows, 
maybe ever in the case of Gout 

483
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,200
Gout, but certainly for a very 
long time with Gout Gout and 

484
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,160
Lockheed Kennedy. 
This is a 20 year old and a 17 

485
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,000
year old who are both if running
sub 10, touching the 10 sub ten 

486
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,320
with wind assist. 
Whatever. 

487
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,240
The point is, we're excited 
about them and we know their 

488
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,480
name. 
And neither of them make the 

489
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,680
men's final Shout out to Bree 
Masters near Rizzo. 

490
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,080
Who, or might be the other way 
around, who took out the women's

491
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,880
event off scratch? 
I loved it. 

492
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,160
Again, we've talked about Brie 
and what a star she is of women 

493
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,240
sprinting at the moment. 
To do it off scratch. 

494
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,360
You saw how much it meant to. 
I love that. 

495
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,440
I actually thought it was one of
my favourite sporting moments of

496
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,680
the year so far. 
But for the mainstream to have 

497
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,320
this young man gout gout capture
all our attention. 

498
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,960
We've talked about what a noisy 
athlete he is, some of it his 

499
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,840
own choosing, some of it by our 
choosing. 

500
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,160
For him not to be in the final 
because he had to run off the 

501
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,800
handicap of scratch and he 
didn't make it through. 

502
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,160
I wonder whether stall and the 
people that run it and organise 

503
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,600
it need to step back and go. 
Do we need to make some changes 

504
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,120
here? 
Well, after listening to 

505
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:44,520
everything you just said, I 
would go, well, that would make 

506
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,480
sense. 
But I mean, this is an event 

507
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,440
that's been running for a long 
time and the nature of 

508
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,800
handicapping is, hey, should 
gout gout win? 

509
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,600
We everyone wanted to see the 
race and see the handicap and 

510
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,560
make it work. 
But the reality is the whole 

511
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,480
purpose of handicapping is that 
everyone has an equal chance of 

512
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,320
winning. 
And the reality is what we just 

513
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,360
said. 
There's there's there's other 

514
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:11,320
athletes there who are turning 
up and store gifts just as 

515
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,200
important to them. 
The public want to see one thing

516
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,720
the store gifts been going a 
long time and I'm sure this has 

517
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,000
happened over and over again. 
And how? 

518
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:24,840
My question would be, how can 
you have a perfect system next 

519
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,640
year? 
They could flip it and go too 

520
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,760
far the other way and gout runs 
in by 10 metres. 

521
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,160
Are we going to be happy then 
this? 

522
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,760
That's my question. 
It's a good point. 

523
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,680
It's a good point. 
Anyway. 

524
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,480
Look, hey, it's the first time. 
I think the store gift has 

525
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,640
probably made as much noise 
since. 

526
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,200
Have you seen that clip that 
always does the rounds at this 

527
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,320
time every year where Kathy 
Freeman, I think she's starting 

528
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,480
off like a 56 metre handicap and
she runs down the 400. 

529
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,160
It's an awesome, awesome clip. 
Yeah, I mean, the one thing we 

530
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,200
can all agree on, you know, 
there's we talked about the 

531
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,640
Grand Slam track and different 
ways of running track. 

532
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,160
Like this is a unique 
Australian. 

533
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,440
I mean, there's obviously 
handicaps all around the world, 

534
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,480
but still has a lot of history. 
Everyone knows that TV supports 

535
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,000
it, the public support it. 
And, you know, maybe there's a 

536
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,360
little bit of a hiccup this year
with some of the big stars, but 

537
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,640
it's not going to, you know, 
it's gonna go on, I reckon, for 

538
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,760
years and years. 
And with athletics growing like 

539
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,480
it is, too, it's gonna grow with
it. 

540
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,680
So it's only a good thing. 
Alright, let's let's RIP into 

541
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,280
some loose ends from last week. 
Courtney, get us into it. 

542
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,720
Yeah, so I've got on mate. 
We're getting called hard and 

543
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,000
this has happened a few times. 
I've, I've ignored it up to now,

544
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:42,880
but Zucconi we obviously keep 
saying very strongly, like an 

545
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:48,040
Australian accent. 
Zucconi sock on E. 

546
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:54,040
Is that how you pronounce it? 
Sock on E look sock on. 

547
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,400
EI think we should just stick 
with how we pronounce it and 

548
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,560
everyone, if, you know, like it,
I've called it that for 20 

549
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,440
years. 
Make your brand's name easier to

550
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,240
pronounce if you've got an issue
with it. 

551
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:16,920
But yeah, so so John boy 76, he 
was only just one of many coming

552
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,640
in. 
Thanks mate. 

553
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,480
We, we do appreciate everyone 
writing and the messages and 

554
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,280
everything and we acknowledge, 
yes, we're probably saying it 

555
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,880
wrong, but my mind just goes 
straight to Ciccone every time. 

556
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,560
So but mate, the shoes at the 
moment, like we said last week 

557
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,640
are going can. 
I can, I can I jump in quickly 

558
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,560
with a story about the great 
Mark guy. 

559
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,120
This is the first time MG has 
and may ever. 

560
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,320
It may be the last time MG the 
wild Panther, the Penrith legend

561
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,800
gets mentioned on a running 
podcast. 

562
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,000
I did a radio show with MG for 
four years and the amount of 

563
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,960
times I had to pick him up or 
correct him on the things he was

564
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,920
saying. 
But as he pointed out to me, 

565
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,760
after every time he made up a 
word, stuffed up a word, used 

566
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,320
the wrong word, he said, but did
you know what I mean? 

567
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,200
And I said, yeah, he said, then 
what's the problem? 

568
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,040
And when we say Sorconi, you 
know what we mean. 

569
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:17,120
Too too true Liam, too true. 
Now Jordan Mcgow has written in 

570
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,920
Hey guys, listen to this 
weekend's app as I typed this, 

571
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,560
talking around the pacing at 
Canberra. 

572
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,960
So this is what you brought up, 
Liam, straight up. 

573
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,640
It's unacceptable to be that 
fast. 10 minutes fast and people

574
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,080
have dropped off and failed. 
Their goal is pretty poor, 

575
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:37,240
especially when often these are 
free entries as volunteers. 

576
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,120
Now, I'm not, I don't completely
agree with that because look, 

577
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,120
yes, they're volunteering. 
It's not about the free entry. 

578
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,800
They're actually doing a service
to everyone. 

579
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,640
So let's not jump on our paces. 
We appreciate our paces. 

580
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,600
Just my thoughts. 
It's good to be a little head 

581
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,160
like 30 to 60 seconds buffer, 
but that's far. 

582
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,320
But you know, 10 minutes is far 
too quick and sort of shame they

583
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,560
missed their goals. 
I had a few people ride in like 

584
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,760
this and talk about a few Pacers
who actually said to me as well 

585
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,880
that when they finish, they've 
heard about Pacers slowing up 

586
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,480
like right before the finish 
line. 

587
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,040
No go either. 
If you're gonna run in, run in. 

588
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,600
But Pacers should. 
You know, there's enough 

589
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,280
technology now that Pacers 
should be on, on, on point. 

590
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,000
But you know what? 
I've never paced. 

591
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,520
I'm assuming you've never paced,
Liam. 

592
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,160
So we're just talking through 
stuff we don't know. 

593
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,480
Let's jump straight into Wade 
from the Sunny Coast here. 

594
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,920
Wade's sent us a message saying 
playing catch up on the potty 

595
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,840
while painting the house. 
You were talking about how 

596
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,640
Powerade uses high fructose corn
syrup versus Gatorade, but 

597
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,320
Powerade uses succross in a 
strategies. 

598
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,400
I feel like we're heading down a
science tunnel here. 

599
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,800
Courtney, I hope you're paying 
attention. 

600
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,360
So Powerade uses high fructose 
corn syrup versus Gatorade, but 

601
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,280
Powerade it uses sucrose. 
In Australia, high fructose corn

602
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,000
syrup is usually used in the 
USA. 

603
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,800
This is because we grow a lot 
more sugar cane versus USA who 

604
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,720
grow a lot of corn. 
Another example is we make more 

605
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,520
rum made from sugar cane versus 
the USA who make bourbon made 

606
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,400
from corn. 
PS Worked for Coke for 24 years 

607
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,760
and was born in Bundy so I grew 
up on a full sugar diet. 

608
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,800
Keep up the good work fella. 
Shout out Wade. 

609
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,520
That's a good This is good 
insight from Wade. 

610
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,320
Thank you. 
Wade, does that make sense to 

611
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,760
you? 
It does make sense and I'm going

612
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,720
to put my hand up that I 
obviously when I went to look at

613
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,920
those or someone actually think 
wrote it, just send it in to us 

614
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,640
and I was just relaying the 
information. 

615
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,400
But that's what you get for just
looking online. 

616
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,240
You should go and pick up the 
the bottle or the cans and look 

617
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,440
for yourself. 
Obviously different ingredients 

618
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,320
in different countries, but yes,
thanks Wade for sending that one

619
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,160
in and and setting us straight. 
Now, we've talked about the 

620
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,880
robot half marathon in the past.
I don't want to spend too much 

621
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,680
time on it, Liam, but just 
touching on it, that happened 

622
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,120
over in, where was it China, 
they had the race half marathon,

623
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,040
the robot champion, 2 hours 40. 
He's not. 

624
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,000
They're not beating us just yet.
So there you go, we'll put the 

625
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,720
reel up and show everyone what 
happened. 

626
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,640
But I'm glad to see they. 
Lift your game, robots, you got 

627
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,880
a long way to go. 
That they do now mate. 

628
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,400
I want to hear what's going on 
with you. 

629
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,320
What's how's your running week 
been? 

630
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,800
So quick catch up and if you're 
playing along with the Wednesday

631
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,160
EPS where we're preparing for 
Gold Coast Marathon, lace up 

632
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,960
running with Benita Willis at 
the helm. 

633
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:30,320
At the moment I feel like I'm 
wasting Benita's time because we

634
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,720
are two weeks into this marathon
prep and I'm not running because

635
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,840
I've gone down with a Soleus 
strain after week 1. 

636
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,360
Basically the long and the short
of it is I didn't recover well 

637
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:53,200
from Konani and I've tried to 
jump back into a week of, of, of

638
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,480
kilometres that my calves 
weren't ready for and I'm paying

639
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,880
the price now. 
So I am, I'm sort of playing, 

640
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,720
I'm literally playing it day by 
day at the moment. 

641
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,480
I'm talking to Benita regularly,
I'm talking to my physio. 

642
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,800
I'm trying to. 
And look, the reality is, and 

643
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,199
I'll talk more about this on 
next Wednesdays because I'm 

644
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,080
sitting down with Benita and 
Bronte again. 

645
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,800
But the reality is I am having 
to re probably reassess the 

646
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:30,560
marathon goal because I could 
persist and naively train for 

647
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,600
this, but I just don't think I'm
already, I'm down to A10 week 

648
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,840
prep instead of a 12 week prep 
and I'm recovering from an 

649
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,840
injury and I'm not up to like 
100% running capacity. 

650
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,600
And it's just going to be 
probably beyond me. 

651
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,320
That being said, I'm not making 
any decisions. 

652
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,400
I'm going to wait for Benita to 
instruct me on this. 

653
00:34:53,400 --> 00:35:00,440
But yeah, it's, it's been really
frustrating and disappointing 

654
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,960
because, I mean, I've start, I'm
on a bloody running podcast and 

655
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,520
I can't, I can't get myself 
running right at the moment. 

656
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:16,240
It's, it really is frustrating 
and I just, I just want to be 

657
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:18,200
running. 
I really want to be invested 

658
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,360
and, and, and into this training
programme as much as I can and I

659
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,920
can't at the moment because my 
calf doesn't want to play ball. 

660
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,760
All that being said, if you run,
you're going to get injured and 

661
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,680
if you're not doing the strength
work, you're going to get 

662
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,480
injured. 
And if you're not recovering 

663
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,320
properly, you're going to get 
injured. 

664
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,920
And all these are lessons that 
people out there are probably 

665
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,920
banging their head against their
their phone or their radio. 

666
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,760
What however, they're listening 
to this because they're going 

667
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,800
through similar stuff or they've
been through similar stuff. 

668
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,400
So essentially, right now, my 
running is day to day. 

669
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,240
It is limited. 
And I'm hoping that I'll, I'll 

670
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:59,920
be able to give people an idea 
of what my new marathon goal is 

671
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,280
soon. 
But for now I'm I'm a day to day

672
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,720
case. 
I, I wouldn't, it sounds, yeah. 

673
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:10,240
I mean, I can tell you 
motivations right down, but I, I

674
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:13,760
was out before you. 
So there's, I think the main 

675
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:21,040
thing is we will, we will 
continue to move forward because

676
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,480
there will be people, there will
be other runners in the same 

677
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,200
situation and there will be 
other runners who will face the 

678
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,000
same situation as they get 
closer to the marathon. 

679
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,080
So everything that you'll be 
talking about with Benita, we're

680
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,840
still going to be learning along
the way. 

681
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,200
And for those who are listening,
you know, in the next few 

682
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,600
episodes on the Wednesdays with 
Benita, we're still going to go 

683
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,840
through, we still want to 
extract all that information for

684
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,720
everyone out of Benita as well. 
So we want to make sure that 

685
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,360
we're going to go through 
different scenarios. 

686
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,800
We're going to go through 
tapers, we're going to go 

687
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,440
through nutrition. 
We're still going to have plenty

688
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,240
of information for you. 
But I think it is key that, you 

689
00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:00,240
know, everyone at some point in 
that marathon is gonna have to 

690
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:03,000
go through some, you know, gonna
go through a little niggle or go

691
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,760
through something that's gonna 
face them. 

692
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,640
And motivation, mate, is the 
hardest thing to get around. 

693
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,880
So, you know, it's not lost 
views. 

694
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,440
Get back. 
You've done plenty of running 

695
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,360
and we're gonna keep going. 
Absolutely. 

696
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,640
And in fact, next this next, the
episode that's gonna drop on 

697
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,000
Wednesday, we've had a lot of 
people ask about strength 

698
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,440
training specifically. 
And you can bet your ass that 

699
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,760
that's going to be a big part of
my conversation with Benita 

700
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,960
about strength training and 
cross training as part of a 

701
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,320
marathon programme. 
When you might be limited on 

702
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,280
running, A, because of injury or
B, because of time or B, you 

703
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,600
know, because of weather, for 
whatever reason, you might be 

704
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,120
limited on your running. 
There are, you know, things you 

705
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,880
can still be doing, and we'll be
hitting those with Bonita on 

706
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,760
Wednesdays at a. 100 percent, 
100% today. 

707
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,480
I'll tell a bit of a running 
story and when we talk about 

708
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,720
races and we said each week 
we're going to try and catch up 

709
00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:01,320
on some local races. 
This is one that goes back. 

710
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,480
It's a bit of a vintage race, 
but I was out at the Stockton 

711
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,240
Sand Dunes today. 
I don't know if you know 

712
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:08,680
Stockton Sand Dunes, it's kind 
of down in Newcastle once you're

713
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,440
up on the top of them. 
I was on a quad bike doing doing

714
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,400
a some filming up there and 
crazy enough I got to the same 

715
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,720
spot where we started the tour 
and it's where I did A10 

716
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:23,600
kilometre soft sand race. 
Or this would be going back well

717
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,320
before Covad, but it was a 10K 
soft sand race called Red Bull 

718
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,080
June Dusters in the Stockton 
Sand dunes. 

719
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,520
And what I remember about it. 
So like when you talk about 

720
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,800
unique races and what you go 
through, think of those who've 

721
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,720
seen Dakar Rally and the 
motorbikes and the cars in the 

722
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,480
sand dunes at Dhaka. 
In this run race, they'd put 

723
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,640
these high flags at the top of 
each June and you literally ran 

724
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,360
off up the sand. 
And then you have to make a 

725
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,400
decision when you got to the 
sand June, do you go straight up

726
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,800
the guts in the soft sand up the
steep face, or do you run around

727
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,720
and kind of use the angles of 
the ridgeline a little bit 

728
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:07,320
better to get to that, to those 
through those flags. 

729
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,360
When you got to those flags, it 
was only then you saw the next 

730
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,400
part of the course because 
obviously there's big valleys 

731
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,040
between the sand dunes. 
So then you went to the next set

732
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,440
of flags, did the same thing, 
the next set of flags and the 

733
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,680
next set of flags. 
It was probably one of the 

734
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,440
hardest run races I did. 
And talking about shoes, it's 

735
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,000
the only time I've ever worn 
those Vibrams, those, what are 

736
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,640
they called, barefoot running 
shoes and they didn't go too bad

737
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,200
and I didn't burn my feet. 
So everything may go, but that's

738
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,200
where I am at the moment. 
So not much running news, but I 

739
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,080
sitting down around the 
Newcastle area at the moment 

740
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,760
doing some stuff. 
That race sounds horrible that I

741
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,200
have 0 interest in doing that 
race. 

742
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,800
No, no thank you. 
Feel free to not invite me ever 

743
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,480
to Red Bull Sand dune Busters or
the hell on earth as that race 

744
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,560
sounds like it was called 
Righto. 

745
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,840
Let's keep rattling through. 
We'll we've talked a little bit 

746
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,960
about the shoes everybody's 
going to be running in in the 

747
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,400
marathons last weekend in Boston
and tomorrow in London. 

748
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,200
So we might move on from a bit 
of gear chat today on this app. 

749
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,080
But more listener questions. 
We love all this. 

750
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,480
Keep sending them in. 
And also, can we just say? 

751
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,640
As the subscribers to this 
channel continue to fly, keep it

752
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,920
going, keep sharing the love, 
keep subscribing, keep 

753
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,840
commenting. 
It's what drives the podcast 

754
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,160
into people's feeds. 
It allows us to get more 

755
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,960
audience, it allows us to 
continue to grow. 

756
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,560
So if you haven't already 
subscribed, please do. 

757
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,400
If you've got friends that are 
running, share it with them and 

758
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,360
tell them to get involved and 
flick us any questions they've 

759
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,480
got. 
These questions come through 

760
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,680
anonymously and we more than 
happy to keep you Anonymous if 

761
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,680
you would like. 
Anonymous has says firstly, 

762
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,200
awesome podcast. 
Thanks so much :) emoji. 

763
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,480
I've got a moral dilemma type 
situation when I ran a Mila at 

764
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,520
around a hunter and a Mila, If 
you're not familiar with the 

765
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,680
lingo, A Mila means 160 
kilometre race, 100 mile race. 

766
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,080
So Anonymous has run a Mila and 
this person has said at around 

767
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,400
120 kilometres in, there was 
another runner with a pacer. 

768
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,720
We got to a section where you 
had to go through a very 

769
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:19,080
technical section of Bush. 
It was only around 1 kilometre, 

770
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,640
yet due to the tree roots, 
rocks, etc, it was almost 

771
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,960
walking only. 
So really slowing down through a

772
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,680
technical section of this 100 
mile race. 

773
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,040
Anyhoo, a person was waiting for
the other runner with their 

774
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,320
pacer and took them through a 
shortcut saying you don't have 

775
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,440
to worry about that section, 
it's only short. 

776
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:44,080
So my question for the podcast 
and listeners, do you just run 

777
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,920
your own race or do you dib a 
dobber anonymous has said that 

778
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,600
they did, by the way, knowing 
that they did the 464 kilometres

779
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,680
and context here was that they 
were at the back of the pack. 

780
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,960
So essentially, to summarise, 
someone they were running in 

781
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,080
this 100 mile with has has cut 
some of the section to make it 

782
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,600
easier for themselves. 
Courtney thoughts. 

783
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,640
Well, my first thought is you 
never cut the course. 

784
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,920
That's cheating. 
This is as simple as that. 

785
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,360
I don't have too much to say on 
it. 

786
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,240
It's as simple as that. 
Now, the dobbing element of it 

787
00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:24,200
is the interesting part. 
So oh man, I don't even know. 

788
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,240
I'm going to have to sit on the 
fence on this one. 

789
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,320
I I just say you don't cut a 
course like you're really only 

790
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,080
cheating yourself in that case. 
Now, if the course is backed up 

791
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:38,960
and this is 100 and what did she
it wasn't a mile or 120 K rate 

792
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,840
or it was 100 mile. 
I mean, you couldn't be moving 

793
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,600
that quick at the same time. 
So if for someone to get off 

794
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,400
course knowingly and just miss a
section that's just not on mate,

795
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,120
not on. 
I'm I'm, I'm with you, 

796
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,920
anonymous. 
Totally agree. 

797
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:59,280
My footy, we had a footy coach 
way back in the day who used to 

798
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,400
when we do running sessions, 
used to, you know, he'd love 

799
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,200
shouting out, you know, you're 
only cheating yourselves as 

800
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,280
though when we were doing 
running sessions, if you were 

801
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,160
pulling up short or, you know, 
basically trying to instil some 

802
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,880
level of responsibility on us as
individuals about what we were 

803
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,080
running and, and and it it 
annoyingly, it's always stuck 

804
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,640
with me that, you know, we take 
the piss a little bit, but 

805
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,520
you're only cheating yourself. 
And the reality is that person 

806
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,880
who's cut the corner on the 100 
mile lives with that. 

807
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,280
Now they know that they cut a 
kilometre off the course. 

808
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,760
They're the ones when they put 
their head down at the end of 

809
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,880
the night, they know they cut 
the course. 

810
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,920
So as far as anonymous needing 
to DOB, I wouldn't waste your 

811
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,960
time. 
I wouldn't waste your time. 

812
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,880
Your thoughts, right? 
You didn't enter that race to 

813
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,480
beat that person. 
You entered the race because you

814
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,000
wanted to see if you could 
complete 100 mile race, which 

815
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,400
you have. 
If anything, that somebody on 

816
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,760
your level of running needed to 
cut the course and cheat to get 

817
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,160
through it. 
I mean if you want to be not 

818
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,360
petty about it, but it should 
give you extra an extra boost 

819
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,560
that they weren't capable of 
what you were. 

820
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,560
Good, well said Liam. 
Mate, I love that that last bit 

821
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,040
of it, you know, look after 
yourself, look after yourself 

822
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,200
now. 
Lincoln Jones wrote in to us 

823
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,000
gents. 
Love the podcast. 

824
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:24,160
In one of the episodes I heard 
Courtney mention triple top 

825
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,440
mountain race on Mount Roland in
Tasmania. 

826
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,240
Yeah, so this is the one I was 
talking about that I would one 

827
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:34,120
of the few left races I want to 
do in Australia or haven't got 

828
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,480
to yet. 
You got three mountains, super 

829
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:43,200
technical and finishes with A5 
Ki think you drop 1000 metres in

830
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,560
5K to finish it. 
So you thought your legs hurt 

831
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,120
after Kanani? 
This is, and it's a technical 

832
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,040
descent as well. 
So yeah, pretty much. 

833
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,480
He said. 
I ran this last year and it is 

834
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,840
by far the hardest, most 
technical mountain race you will

835
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,200
do in Australia. 
He's going OK 4K you descend 

836
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,760
over 1000 metres, so even worse 
Cliff, a Cliff face at some 

837
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,200
points. 
To give you an idea, it's 

838
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,120
roughly 19 K. 
The guy who did it last year won

839
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,880
in just over 2 hours, so 19 K to
it. 

840
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,760
Yeah. 
So she's tough. 

841
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:22,680
Since Liam is the mountain 
runner now, I reckon you guys 

842
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:27,160
need to make your way back down 
to Tassie and give give what is 

843
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,040
it, triple top a crack at the 
end of the year. 

844
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,760
What's your thoughts, Liam? 
Lincoln, if you're listening, 

845
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,760
you've just heard what Kanani's 
done to my calves. 

846
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,080
So no, I don't think I need to 
find something that's even more 

847
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,560
taxing on my legs just right 
now. 

848
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,720
Unless I get my my legs and 
calves bulletproof with a better

849
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:51,360
strength training programme, in 
which case, why not? 

850
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,280
I'd like, hey, I'm all for 
trying stuff. 

851
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,480
And if it's a race that Courtney
you've got on your radar, let's 

852
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,920
go do it. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

853
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,240
Well mate, I've I've got an 
entry that I've had for three or

854
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:05,400
two or three years now and the 
kind organisers down there keep 

855
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,440
rolling it over for me so I can 
get down there and, and I will 

856
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,080
one year, I still promise it's 
one race that I want to do in 

857
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,080
Australia that I haven't yet. 
So I will see you down there at 

858
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,080
some stage. 
Lincoln. 

859
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,440
So thanks for that. 
Kate Jones. 

860
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,520
Hold on, hold on, I. 
Can't finish yet? 

861
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,720
Hold on because we have to do we
have to make history for the 

862
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:29,920
podcast today, Courtney, because
for the first time we are going 

863
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,080
to be doing an unboxing. 
Now this, I know this was a 

864
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:40,000
trend about six years ago, but 
we are bringing it back and we 

865
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,840
have a package to open courtesy 
of. 

866
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,560
I would go as far as to put him 
if he's not on the, if he's not 

867
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,320
the number one, he's certainly 
on the leaderboard, on the 

868
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:55,480
Strava leaderboard of #1 fans of
this podcast, Ryan Kelso, this 

869
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,000
is the organiser of the Armadale
Running Festival, which he's 

870
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,040
trying to recruit us to be 
ambassadors for, for next year. 

871
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,280
And he has sent us a package. 
OK, I'm going to do this in a 

872
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,640
very Wheel of Fortune style. 
Ryan has sent us some drink 

873
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,080
bottles and. 
With my name on it. 

874
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:14,920
Beautiful. 
What's on the back? 

875
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:17,240
With more than just your name on
it, Courtney. 

876
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,320
Now This is why I'm going to do 
it. 

877
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,200
Wheel of Fortune style. 
I am going to, and we'll have to

878
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,400
turn this into all videos so 
people can see what we're 

879
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,360
talking about. 
But as I spin this, I want you 

880
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,280
to describe what you're looking 
at, OK? 

881
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,840
Because as I rotate it for the 
camera. 

882
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,400
Oh, I think someones been, I 
think Ryan's been playing on AI.

883
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,240
Hey, look at that. 
That is Matt. 

884
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:42,440
That is gold. 
That is gold. 

885
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,440
Ryan has taken what looks to be 
a steel shot of the podcast, 

886
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,840
chucked it into one of those AI 
animator things. 

887
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:57,160
It has spat out logo of the two 
of us in the beginning podcast. 

888
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,680
He's whacked it on a couple of 
Yeti bottles that he's 

889
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,160
personalised for us. 
Firstly, thank you Ryan. 

890
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,600
This is ridiculously, this is 
never in our wildest dreams. 

891
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,800
Did we think this podcast would 
lead to us getting personalised 

892
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,280
drink bottles. 
But can we just talk about the 

893
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:18,520
logo for a second? 
Courtney, you look like a 

894
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,760
lumberjack. 
You, it's giving you the 

895
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,440
thickest, richest. 
I don't know if anybody out 

896
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,280
there is old enough to remember 
Home Improvement, the the Tim 

897
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:36,360
Allen sitcom from the 90s. 
You look like Al Boland, Tim 

898
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,840
Allen's assistant from that 
show. 

899
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:43,920
Your beard is that thick and 
dark and you look like you're 

900
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,480
hosting a hardware podcast more 
than a running podcast. 

901
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,440
But I, on the other hand, look 
worse. 

902
00:48:51,720 --> 00:49:01,200
I I look like a I I look like a 
middle aged unemployed man who 

903
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,280
has a very quickly receding 
hairline. 

904
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,600
Ohh mate it's it's gold. 
I love, I love this. 

905
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:14,040
Thanks Ryan mate, that is a lot 
of works gone into. 

906
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,040
That these are amazing, Ryan. 
Seriously, thank you. 

907
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,520
Mate, mate, thank you, thank 
you. 

908
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,560
And you are, you are. 
I agree with Liam, you 

909
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,640
definitely, you've been there 
from the beginning, mate. 

910
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,840
And we, we appreciate everyone's
support and you've been there 

911
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,120
right from the beginning. 
So thank you. 

912
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,720
Now we're gonna let me do this 
one, Courtney, please, because 

913
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,960
Katie Jones has sent this into 
the show. 

914
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,400
And and I think this 
beautifully. 

915
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,400
You'll never understand what 
this is like. 

916
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,560
This is very much the every 
person runners mentality. 

917
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,680
I want them to remember this 
because most of them will never 

918
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,520
win the race. 
But all of us are capable of 

919
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,160
this. 
This is Kate Jones to share 

920
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,040
this. 
It's come through from 

921
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,320
Instagram. 
Nellie Oheha has shared this on 

922
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,360
Instagram and the saying is if 
you're a runner, keep this in 

923
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,720
mind. 
Win the event and they'll forget

924
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:05,680
you by next year. 
Shit your pants and they'll 

925
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,520
remember you forever. 
Be memorable that is. 

926
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,480
I couldn't agree more. 
And the perfect example. 

927
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,520
I don't know if Paula Radcliffe 
won the London Marathon, but I 

928
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,480
remember that she shit herself 
during it. 

929
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,520
Yeah. 
Make sure you're ready to go for

930
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,920
Wednesday. 
Thanks for staying patient with 

931
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,800
us through this one. 
Our remote episodes are always a

932
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,360
bit tricky for us. 
A few little technical gremlins.

933
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,040
We appreciate your persistence 
and again, share the love. 

934
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,440
This thing is building, it's 
growing. 

935
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,120
People are sending us stuff now.
Subscribers are going through 

936
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,520
the roof. 
The numbers are climbing. 

937
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,560
We'll see you. 
And we'll see you on Wednesday 

938
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for the Marathon specific app.