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In the beginning podcast episode
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knocking off some jam on toast. 
You just tells me you got out 

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and for a run this morning. 
No run. 

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No run. 
I was in the, I was in the 

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water, I was down at Tully Creek
and all that rain we got this 

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week. 
Early week. 

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Yeah, I was. 
I was wondering whether it was 

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brown poo or just brown. 
'Cause that was your happy place

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a couple of weeks ago, wasn't? 
It wasn't. 

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It wasn't so happy. 
This morning it was. 

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It was. 
Cold and cold and dirty. 

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Cold and dirty, it's still good 
to. 

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Get out for a swim. 
Let's call this what it is. 

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It is the Jelly Roll Reacts 
podcast. 

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It is the podcast after Jelly 
Roll, the wrap, the wrap up, the

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the biggest moment in the in the
history, the short history of 

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our podcast. 
I'll hear you call it history. 

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The weird, wonderful journey we 
went on to arrive at sitting 

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down and speaking with this 
global star. 

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Ineffectively, his green room. 
In his green room, 2 hours 

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before he goes out, performs his
first ever concert on Australian

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soil to a sold out Brisbane 
crowd. 

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We sit down with him and talk 
running. 

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We've had some time to reflect 
on it. 

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Obviously the podcast is up and 
the feedbacks been fantastic. 

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How have you looked back on it? 
Well, this is fangirling, wasn't

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I? 
That's how I look back on it. 

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No, but it's just surreal 
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blue, right? 
That, I mean, I think that's the

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best thing, you know, that 
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attraction. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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Yeah, you know that. 
Yeah, yeah, you. 

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Put it out there into the 
universe. 

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Vision board stuff. 
Yeah. 

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But I mean, it wasn't like that.
It wasn't quite that. 

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It wasn't quite that. 
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we we organically, we just 
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an interesting subject to us. 
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that out in the world. 
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know, a few things align. 
And then we're getting a call 

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from his team going, hey, we 
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It wasn't like we said we want 
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Get a big superstar on the show.
So let's find a way to talk 

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about one of them in relation to
running so that we can hopefully

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get them on as an interview 
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Yeah, we're open to that. 
We're open to. 

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That. 
But that's not what he said. 

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We're horse. 
We're horse to whatever you want

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to throw at us. 
But this wasn't It definitely 

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wasn't planned. 
And four hours is not a lot of 

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notice either. 
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came across, but we, we got 
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needed to get ourselves 
together, find someone and share

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that to Josh who came on board 
to film for us for the day and 

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get up to the Brisbane 
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90 minutes away at the best of 
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Peak peak M1 Brisbane traffic, 
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Nothing can go. 
Wrong and Courtney did not 

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unclench until we arrived in the
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Entertainment Centre. 
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we were in, we were standing a 
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until they sorted us A room. 
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were too happy. 
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few noses out of joint. 
They wanted out as pretty good. 

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But as a whole experience. 
And again, shout out to Daryl 

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Bailey from Universal to Jelly 
Roll and his whole team for 

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making that happen. 
Incredible experience. 

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And I think, I hope it's not the
only legacy, but Courtney, the 

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legacy that we will leave 
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This podcast, in the Beginning 
We'll Leave Forever, is that we 

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have lit the fire under Jelly 
Rolls AFL fandom in that he is 

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now, with the support of Fox 
Footy and KO, actively being 

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courted by all 18 teams in the 
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That was us. 
It was it was good too when 

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Daryl T tapped us on the 
shoulder when Jelly roll in the 

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middle of his show goes all the 
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Did you tell him to say that? 
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No, no, it's it's it's all been 
it was all pretty sorry. 

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You know that. 
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he, he made a quote. 
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running and is he one of those 
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everyone about running? 
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I know nothing. 
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How good a quote is that? 
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So I know everything because I'm
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And it it's it made that one 
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was like, it's so right. 
If you don't know, just sit 

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back, take it all in, but don't 
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what what's not your expertise, 
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You're going to take music 
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Yeah, if Jelly Roll's going to 
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sing, I'll take Legend or 
perform an incredible live show.

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Listen. 
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Yeah, you're right. 
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I didn't expect him to be, you 
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programmes, but just that you 
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about his running. 
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I mean, he just genuinely seemed
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was running. 
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line in the podcast where he 
says for, for, and I'll put 

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myself in his voice right now. 
He's like, for y'all to have me 

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on your running podcast and to 
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I'm like, that's so cool. 
That's so cool. 

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I love that interaction where 
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the runners were the nerds back 
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You know, everyone wants to, 
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It was very, very. 
If you haven't got your, your 

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tats and your, you know, 
satisfied clothing, you're not a

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runner. 
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You're a runner, whether like 
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you know, in a weight loss 
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you're an elite runner, whether 
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runner, whether you run in the 
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running. 
I will say there's all running 

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from from the perspective of 
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get the opportunity to interview
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always usually pushing 
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something, whether it be a tour,
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whatever it is, then you not, 
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sense of a connection being made
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further communication? 
I got a real sense, and it's not

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to say that Jelly Rolls 
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got a real sense that. 
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Well, he he did. 
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reached out to his team about 
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they'd be open to it. 
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that's the vibe and connection I
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Well, the beauty of it is he's, 
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team, you know, every one of 
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They were super. 
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like a Joe Rogan, Yeah, feel 
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treated us like we, they treated
us like we were, you know, a big

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American podcast. 
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Well, and yeah, that was the 
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I don't know if it gets picked 
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end Jellyroll apologised because
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hour chats now and this is kind 
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talking to us. 
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Could have kept well man, I 
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I wasn't doing much talking. 
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we met there on the the night 
and we said, Oh yeah, we're here

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to talk to Jelly Roll about 
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The reaction from all of them 
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cool. 
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and unique and different this 
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So it was an amazing. 
And look, if you haven't heard 

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it, go back. 
Go listen, we won't, we won't. 

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It's so cool. 
Keep going over everything here.

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But one of the other things I 
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I've copped a bit of Flack for 
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time it's been up, is we have 
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Yep, Jelly Roll just hit us with
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Brooks. 
I run in Brooks. 

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I run in Brooks. 
Shout out. 

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Shout out. 
Look and this is like. 

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That what were they? 
Go Ghosts. 

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Ghosts, 1617. 
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talk about when anybody mentions
shoes on the shoes that are up 

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for you. 
Don't follow brands, don't 

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influencers, don't follow 
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Go and try them all on and find 
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as a person. 
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was, it's not so much 
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like, I'm observing everything. 
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we've gone back and seen, you 
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videos now we're doing. 
He's wearing a Reebok trackie. 

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he's, he's calling it his ears. 
I I wear Brooks, but when I'm on

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the trails or this. 
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And then and then he threw in 
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ASICS. 
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Kayanos. 
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that now. 
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Recommended hawkers for any 
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we always say here, that's been 
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you know, he encompassing just 
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to do, you know, to find what's 
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his his thing. 
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can explain it when I walked 
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up on the show, because that was
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fact that that was that was 
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when I was him or the team said,
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of the house and I'm like front 
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Does that mean like we can go up
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ended up walking out into the 
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strong crowd at the arena. 
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this little pen right in the 
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what, 40 metres back from the 
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Yeah, a little bit further. 
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like, hmm, OK, ohh, that's 
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We're back with the producers 
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And then, as it turned out, his 
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on fire in front of us. 
And that's the scene you can see

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in some of those rules there. 
So front of house, to bring your

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technical term, OK, sorry, the 
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doesn't mean front of stage. 
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where the audio and the lighting
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Oh, so you were you were across 
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I know, I know where front of 
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gigs. 
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it's front of house because he 
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fire. 
Go to the front of the house. 

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It's really simple. 
Liam Yeah, no, what? 

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Technically the that front of 
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texts of the lighting and the 
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But yeah, now we can think of it
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house that's on fire. 
Go to the front of go. 

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To the front of the house. 
Overall, an unforgettable moment

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for both of us. 
And I'm, I look forward to, I'm 

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really excited because the other
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the podcast is not that we want 
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We don't want to turn this into 
a let's go find a reason to talk

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to musicians, actors, all that 
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That's not what we want to do. 
But there are other people of no

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celebrities that run. 
And I would love to think that 

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we can now use Jelly roll and 
that conversation with a 

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demonstration of the podcast and
how we want to talk to people 

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about that. 
We don't want to bring hot, you 

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know, smuggle you in under the 
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running and then make it all 
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have with every other 
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We don't want to do that. 

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When we get you in to talk about
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want to talk to you about 
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And that's what we did with 
Jelly so. 

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We did. 
We did. 

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Anyway. 
Rolling on from Jelly. 

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Let's keep rolling. 
He apologised about treadmills 

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and I kind of found that a 
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apologise, like interesting, 
wasn't it? 

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Run because he said I, I asked 
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know, do you when you run 
outside, do you get heck like 

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not hassled, I suppose just more
people just go in this Jelly 

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roll, like can I get a photo? 
Does an interrupt your run? 

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And he went on to say, like, 
sometimes I just run on the 

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treadmill in the corner and 
that's what I enjoy. 

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I enjoy the same thing. 
I used to love doing treadmill 

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when I was racing. 
It was this time you can just 

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like you said, just you just 
lock in, you knuckle down, you 

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lock in. 
It's just you and the mat. 

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You fall. 
If you, if you can't keep up, 

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you fall off. 
Like it's a brilliant predictor 

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of how you're going. 
So like I, I, I love the idea of

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the treadmill, but where I'm 
going with this is there's been 

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an announcement that there is 
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championship. 
They're gonna do this over. 

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But then I thought, OK, 
treadmill World Championships. 

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So it's like marathons or 
whatever else? 

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No, no, this is being focused. 
So it's Techno Gym, which is a 

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World Athletics have partnered 
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larger kind of treadmill 
companies around the globe for a

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new run event called Run X. 
It's gonna debate debut in 2026,

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but it's a 5K distance. 
So it's that exact distance we 

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were talking about with Jelly 
Roll, like around, you know, if 

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you're a beginner runner, 5K is 
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Target Park Run, all that type 
of stuff. 

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But for the top guys, there's 
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Think $100,000 prize pool. 
You can get on the treadmill and

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see how quick you can bust out 
5K as an elite as well. 

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What do you reckon? 
I have one major flag. 

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I've just learned about this 
from you, but I already I have 

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one major flag. 
What is it? 

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Are you a member of a gym? 
Pseudo member. 

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Yeah. 
OK, so in my mind you're not 

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right. 
Yes, I'm not. 

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You're not a paid member to Yeah
Fitness First, whatever. 

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I don't think you should be 
allowed to compete because if 

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you're because what's to stop 
Andy Buchanan? 

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Yeah, OK. 
Going in. 

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Just rocking up. 
Just rocking up to this and 

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pumping out an unbeatable time 
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like, well, what was the point 
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You've just allowed the best 
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win something else in a 
different format. 

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I like it, but I think if you 
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treadmill championship, you need
to create the hurdle, which is 

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that you need to be a member of 
a gym. 

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You need to be a gym goer, a gym
rat who uses the treadmill as 

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the way you run. 
Yeah, but so it's. 

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Celebrates. 
A lot of the treadmill, there's 

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elite runners, not all of them, 
but a lot of them do use 

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treadmill as part of their 
training. 

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I mean, it's great for turnover,
it's great for efficiency. 

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It takes a little bit of the, it
can take a little bit of the 

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load off your legs as instead of
running on concrete or a track. 

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So there is advantages of 
running on it and they do run on

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it. 
But I do agree they don't run in

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a gym. 
And my questions are, does it 

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have to be done on a techno gym?
Treadmill #1 Good point #2 

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Treadmills are notoriously. 
Inaccurate. 

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Inaccurate. 
So can, can I get an engineer 

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around to my gym and just, and 
just, you know, like play with 

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the clock a little bit? 
Yeah, play with the engine a 

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little bit. 
Look, so many questions, but I 

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think it's actually like it's 
quite. 

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AI love the idea. 
Do you know what I would? 

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I would rather say and I don't 
know. 

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I don't know what techno gyms 
are really. 

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No, no, Techno Gym is the brand.
The brand of the treadmill. 

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Sorry. 
What I would like to see is a 

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race. 
Rather than a time trial type 

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thing where you hop on a 
treadmill. 

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I would much rather a big room 
with 20 treadmills and it's a 

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race and you can see the 
leaderboard up on the screen. 

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OK. 
I thought it's just showing. 

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I think that's kind of the 
concept. 

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It to me is more interesting and
more entertaining then you 

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jumping on and punching out. 
I'll court court. 

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Here's Courtney's dropped a 16 
for 5K. 

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No, I've got a feeling this 
would be and look, we're just 

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talking out of our body and like
we don't really know. 

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I'm looking at an article, but 
it looks like you get in your 

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gym, there's lined up, you run, 
there's a leaderboard now that's

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make it to the next final, the 
semi, the semi semi and then you

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finally. 
Get so in this way that on Swift

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you can see where you are on the
bike. 

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They did that for a running. 
That would be interesting. 

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I mean, because like if you had 
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a, you know, like Mario Kart 
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where you could see where you 
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That would be a cool way to do. 
It I'm sure this is already 

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exists in the gym world, but so 
we're not gatekeeping, we get 

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called out about gatekeeping 
fitness, so open to all. 

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The underlying policy of this 
podcast is all fitness is good 

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fitness. 
I think we just. 

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We should have just we if we 
haven't demonstrated that in the

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last episode with Jelly Roll. 
Yeah, all fitness is good 

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fitness. 
That doesn't mean I'm not gonna 

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make fun of some fitness. 
I still think it's good. 

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I'm still allowed to laugh at 
it, though. 

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I laughed. 
I've copped grief about giving 

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those the tights the. 
Running. 

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Shorts, the half tights, 
whatever they're called. 

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I've got people saying the only 
reason you're you're bagging 

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them is because you haven't 
tried them. 

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Try them and then you'll fall 
in. 

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There's a. 
Lot of half tight lovers. 

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Half tight lovers, I will make, 
I choose. 

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I reserve the right to make fun 
of all forms of fitness because 

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I love all forms of fitness. 
OK, well while you're doing 

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that, let's move on to our 
favourite high rocks. 

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Great, let's make fun of 
fitness. 

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Yeah, I will do high rocks at 
some point, I can guarantee. 

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Well, maybe this might change 
your mind then, because the but 

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it's the brand that doesn't work
for you. 

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So down at Wollongong World 
Triathlon Championships on the 

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weekend, the news out of there 
is they obviously have their 

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World Triathlon Congress, which 
layers up into the Olympic 

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movement. 
And there's always, we know 

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sports out there wanting to get 
into the Olympic movement. 

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We know ultra running are 
fighting hard for this. 

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We we know. 
Lawn bowls are having a meeting 

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about it this weekend. 
Lawn bowls? 

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My brother's up in Brisbane 
participating in the lawn bowls.

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Oh really? 
BPL sports lobbyists. 

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Everywhere, as soon as the cycle
comes around. 

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So down at the World Triathlon 
Championships at the Congress 

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meeting, World Triathlon have 
approved some new disciplines 

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underneath the World Triathlon 
umbrella. 

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Have you read this? 
Can you guess what 2 disciplines

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they've approved triathlon? 
So this will now fall so the 

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way, and this is a very layman's
term. 

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I've explained it because I 
don't know the technical side of

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it, but to be an Olympic sport, 
you can't be a brand. 

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So Iron Man can't be CrossFit, 
CrossFit, Iron Man, these are 

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brands, right? 
You can't be an Olympic sport, 

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you need to be a sport and that 
has to sit under a governing 

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like a governing body. 
So breakdance. 

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So the story around break 
dancing. 

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This is why anyhow we ended up 
with Ray Gun at the Olympics. 

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I'm. 
Not going to go into that, sure,

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but the way break dancing work, 
they actually sat under I 

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believe the ballroom. 
Ballroom. 

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Association So you can see how 
this works right? 

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Sure, what 2 sports is triathlon
the world governing body of New 

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World triathlon? 
What have they rather will put 

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under them? 
I'm going to assume I'll assume 

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high Roxy is 1. 
Well, all all, all fitness 

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racing. 
It's called fitness racing, so 

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OK, even though they yeah, so 
even though they it's pioneered 

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by the international fitness 
brand High Rocks, it is now 

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known under their platform as 
fitness racing. 

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So the brand is High Rocks. 
The format is fitness racing. 

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So they're taking the style of 
high rocks. 

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It's now fitness racing. 
So that would be interesting to 

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see where that goes, because 
that means, you know, to be in 

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that format, it's going to have 
to be called. 

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Fitness racing. 
Yeah, it's it's effectively the 

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fitness racing. 
If everyone can't quite wrap 

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their brains around it, it's 
like The thing is not an esky. 

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That's a brand. 
It's a cool. 

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It's a cooler. 
Correct, it's not a Breville. 

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It's not a Breville, it's a 
Toasty. 

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Machine we're gonna rule we're. 
On the right, what's the second 

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one? 
And then we'll come back to I 

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wouldn't get it. 
You know what it's, I'm guessing

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it's if it's, if it's got to be 
under that it's got to be 

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involving some sort of the 
elements. 

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Is it like duathlon? 
Close, close. 

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So it's it's the long form of 
swim rum racing, which is. 

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Ohhh yeah big shit out bacon it.
It literally. 

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Bondi Bondi lifeguard pronounce 
this Swedish, originated otilo 

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otilo otilo. 
So the one Bailey races in is 

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the one where he goes across, 
like from island to island to 

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island. 
In Swedes, up in Sweden. 

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Yeah, so a long race. 
You, you paddle, you swim with 

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paddles, pool boys, everything 
goes in the swim. 

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You do it. 
In as long as you run with the 

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equipment as well a. 100%, so 
that has been the other one. 

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So it's under the swim run 
format now. 

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I did a swim run format like 
that under the Brekka Brekka, I 

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think Brekka Brekka brand, Yeah.
Over in Wanica, yeah. 

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With Braden, not Braden Mercer, 
I was about to say. 

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Braden Mercer. 
Braden Mercer, Braden Curry. 

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Curry. 
I'm into athletes. 

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So we went like we swam through 
the Wanica Lake and then ran up 

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the mountain I imagine. 
This to be brought up your 

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alley. 
It was, it was amazing. 

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It's just that it was. 
And they do one in Sydney, Yeah,

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it's very popular in Sydney 
through the Brady's, yeah, 

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through the eastern bait and 
coves. 

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Yep. 
Yeah. 

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So that's the sport, the other 
sport they've brought in island 

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to island racing in in that 
format. 

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So let's see where they both go.
But what do you reckon on this 

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fitness one if? 
One of those was good to get to 

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the Olympics. 
I'd prefer it to be fitness 

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racing, I think. 
Yeah, I think I'd prefer it to 

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be fitness racing. 
That being said, I don't know. 

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See there was a comment because 
modern pentathlon. 

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Remember, they've changed their 
sport to include an obstacle 

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course racing. 
I would rather fitness racing 

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than modern pentathlon with 
obstacle racing I think. 

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I. 
Agree with you there. 

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And I'm, this is I, I, and I 
want to be careful because I 

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know you're a triathlete who's 
a, a Jack of all trades, master 

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of nuts. 
I own it. 

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Those multidisciplined things, 
Meh. 

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I, I, yeah, I'm happy for you to
call me out on that. 

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Yeah, I think triathlon's a bit 
different, but when you ride a 

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horse and you do some shooting 
and you, it's kind of like. 

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No, no, no. 
But you're right, there's a, a 

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unique element of putting it all
together and you're a 

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triathlete, but you're, you're 
not the pinnacle of swimming. 

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00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,720
You're not the pinnacle of 
riding a bike and you're not the

446
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,640
pinnacle of running. 
Yeah, that's true, Liam. 

447
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,720
I'm, I'm, I mean, from day dot 
I've been, yeah, always been 

448
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,120
very conscious of that. 
Whereas it feels like. 

449
00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:48,440
But but modern Pentathlon's the 
same in the sense of why I why I

450
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,880
don't like they're trying to 
modernise it to be, you know, 

451
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,200
with the ties by adding obstacle
horse racing. 

452
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,200
But the one thing I think modern
pentathlon had going for it at 

453
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,400
the Olympics, it was the history
of that event. 

454
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,880
Yes, take the history out of. 
It then what's the point in 

455
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,680
doing so? 
Decathlon. 

456
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,840
I actually prefer to pentathlon 
because decathlon for those that

457
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,200
don't know you're you're always 
in the athletic arena. 

458
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,120
It's kind of like you've been 
dropped into the athletic arena 

459
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,680
and you gotta run, jump, throw. 
It's. 

460
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,320
The triathlon of of of of of the
track of track and triathlon's a

461
00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:22,520
bitumen. 
Whereas pentathlon is fencing, 

462
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,680
shooting, swimming, riding, 
cross country, running. 

463
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,000
It's it's kind of like an 
adventure camp. 

464
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,200
It's kind of like the stuff when
you go out camp in Year 5. 

465
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,640
Yeah, but it's it's it's like 
it's so James Bond. 

466
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,680
Yeah, it's. 
That's a great description. 

467
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,680
It's the it's the training 
ground for James Bond 100%. 

468
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,360
You need to. 
You need to fulfil that is Yeah.

469
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,720
So if you're if you, if you, 
yeah. 

470
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,160
Anyway, you know where I'm going
with. 

471
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,920
It that is the perfect 
description of what the modern 

472
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,280
pentathlon is. 
It is the training ground to 

473
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,120
find the next James Bond. 
If you're casting for James. 

474
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:00,560
Bond. 
Yeah, put him in the mud 

475
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,920
Pentathlon. 
British accent the the the the 

476
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,480
everlasting looks as you are 
good and Olympic. 

477
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,560
And you gotta, you gotta do it 
all in a suit that's excellent 

478
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,000
or like. 
And and you gotta be able to 

479
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,360
wear Lycra come out and did you 
try it's? 

480
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,240
It's pretty standard. 
I I like the fitness racing I 

481
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,200
like and I like the fact that 
World Triathlon is adapting. 

482
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:29,320
I like that it's finding a way 
to broaden the church and and 

483
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,680
include. 
But what do you? 

484
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,720
What? 
What do you so the reason I 

485
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,720
brought it up, what do you think
about it coming under the 

486
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,120
triathlon governance? 
Well. 

487
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,880
Where else is that going to 
live? 

488
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,720
Is that not going to? 
Live so so it makes triathlon a 

489
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,880
world triathlon suddenly start 
to become just like the ultra 

490
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,760
where multi running no we let's 
get back to running so ultra 

491
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:57,040
running is pushing hard to get 
or trail running let's call it 

492
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,880
trail running is. 
To get the Olympics. 

493
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,440
Pushing really hard, you know, 
good. 

494
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,560
They have their lobbyists out 
there as well. 

495
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,680
Good. 
But they'll try and push in. 

496
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,920
I'm assuming under. 
Their own governance. 

497
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,600
No, no, under athletics, under 
track and you know, whatever 

498
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,000
track or. 
Running what is the I double AF?

499
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,640
Yes. 
Yep. 

500
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,360
Correct, because that makes 
sense, right? 

501
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:19,600
It's a it's a pure running 
running event. 

502
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,160
Sure, but would they be better 
off actually trying to push in 

503
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,120
under the triathlon of the new 
age of multi sport and. 

504
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,520
Well, no, because I wouldn't 
classify it as a multi sport. 

505
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,440
That's true. 
And I think if, if, if triathlon

506
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,360
goes world triathlon goes that 
way and starts to embrace those 

507
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:36,680
other multi discipline formats, 
maybe they need to actually 

508
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,360
adjust the name of the governing
body so it's not World Triathlon

509
00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,520
Federation, but it's multi sport
federation or whatever, 

510
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,560
something like that. 
Yeah. 

511
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,880
So yeah. 
Oh, look, I, I, if they've got 

512
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,440
to find their way into the world
under that banner, I'm happy. 

513
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,080
I'm fine with it. 
I'm fine with it. 

514
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,520
I look. 
Forward to seeing, I mean, the 

515
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,440
biggest challenge, and I've seen
a few people write this, the 

516
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,320
biggest challenge they have is 
consistency of a sport. 

517
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,680
So to, to be able to go forward 
in, in that environment of, you 

518
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,000
know, Olympic Games, you need to
have consistency across events 

519
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,440
in your sport. 
The challenge high rocks have 

520
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,440
still had. 
I see nothing, but I see nothing

521
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,440
but reels of people cheating on 
the burpees. 

522
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,240
Well, not only cheating, but 
it's like the when the events in

523
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,680
Philadelphia compared to when 
it's in Germany and they're 

524
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,800
trying to compare times, but you
can't compare times, but they 

525
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,040
do. 
That's the whole purpose of it. 

526
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,920
You qualify to the World 
Championships on your times no 

527
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,160
matter where you are, so it's 
not as. 

528
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,440
Time based? 
Surely no. 

529
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,200
Maybe they just got to go to 
place based. 

530
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,640
It I think it should be anyway. 
Yeah. 

531
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,240
Look, good luck to you. 
Yep. 

532
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,160
Good luck to you. 
Hey, good news. 

533
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,920
Strava walked away from the 
Garmin legal challenge. 

534
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,960
Did they walk away or were they 
was there, was there perhaps a 

535
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,800
an out of court type situation 
where an agreement was made use?

536
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,200
Read or heard? 
No, I haven't. 

537
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,000
I'm speculating. 
I always look at these 

538
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,960
situations ago. 
Strava went in deep enough, 

539
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,960
pushed their chips in the middle
such that they haven't just 

540
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,840
changed their mind. 
They haven't gone the the odds 

541
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,720
are against us. 
They will. 

542
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,400
They will. 
They're big enough and ugly 

543
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,680
enough now to they've got their 
hands dirty on this. 

544
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,080
Something must have. 
It must be some sort of 

545
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,520
agreement behind the scenes such
that Garmin is agreeing to some 

546
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,440
requests. 
Yep. 

547
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,280
Yeah, a compromise has been 
reached would be my prediction. 

548
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,760
Anyway, I I saw you down at 
Super Cars. 

549
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,080
I was down at the GC 500 last 
weekend. 

550
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,960
Fantastic. 
Good crashes. 

551
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,040
That chicane, for those that 
didn't watch it, there is 

552
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,240
essentially A rocker section, a 
chicane section where the cars 

553
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,240
just all decided, the drivers 
all decided, yeah, we're just 

554
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,760
going to drive over this. 
But with the price being paid of

555
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:56,160
the car does kind of like a a 
like your your dad dancing at 

556
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,760
the corner. 
Like a side to side type 

557
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,960
movement where it gets airborne 
on either side. 

558
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,440
I couldn't believe that they 
were consistently navigating at 

559
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,360
the speeds they were. 
Brody Castecki was the one that 

560
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:09,120
came off worse when he just 
couldn't catch the car. 

561
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,640
Will Brown did it. 
Will Brown did it, but Castecki 

562
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,080
was the one that hit the 
barricades and injured. 4 

563
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,560
photographers I I've heard that 
some metal. 4 photographers were

564
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,600
injured, One his arm got 
punctured by a piece of metal or

565
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,920
something like that I think. 
But we were laughing because 

566
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,920
they got injured despite the 
safety that was in place in the 

567
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,320
form of the tyres and the wall 
and the barricades and 

568
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,160
everything else. 
It used to be hay bales. 

569
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,680
And not a not an indie. 
Apparently it used to be hay 

570
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,280
bales back in the day. 
They used to guard these courses

571
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,880
with hay bales. 
On the Gold Coast. 

572
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,920
Apparently this is what someone 
tells me. 

573
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,400
I reckon that's like, you know, 
they used to say everyone on the

574
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,200
Gold Coast just wore white shoes
and white slacks are I think 

575
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,720
this is. 
But it was, do you know what was

576
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,960
fun was I met through the 
supercar stuff. 

577
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,600
I went and did something with 
Total Tools here in Burleigh and

578
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,800
Anton de Pasquale one of the 
drivers came down and great 

579
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,520
fella never met him before. 
At a great chat from Melbourne, 

580
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,800
chatting away and I mentioned 
that I did a bit of running on 

581
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,080
the coast here or I had run on 
occasions with Will Davison and 

582
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,760
Tim Slade and Anton said are you
1 of Adzi's athletes? 

583
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,000
Like instantly just knew Adzi 
Gordon where which is the 

584
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,520
running group that I met these 
guys through. 

585
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,200
And then we had a conversation 
about just what a weapon like 

586
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,880
Tim Slade is as an athlete. 
Just one of the, you know, and 

587
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,960
obviously all those Viet 
Supergard drivers have to have 

588
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,680
have to be fit to endure what 
they do. 

589
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,680
But I wonder if have I got a 
race on this weekend or will 

590
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,760
some of them be? 
Up at Noosa they no no race this

591
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,400
weekend. 
No race this weekend. 

592
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,080
I think you're fine Will. 
Will Davison is at Noosa this 

593
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:53,640
weekend. 
Yep. 

594
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,080
So if you see the great man 
running around with his wife 

595
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,920
Rick say g'day. 
But he's had a shocker of it. 

596
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,400
He had a shocker of a weekend at
the GC 5 for the best not to 

597
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,720
talk about. 
It but no. 

598
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,040
Well, good, good, good, good. 
So I think it may have been two 

599
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:12,680
years ago I walked out of the 
Red Bull pits and saw Will and 

600
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,920
I'd only just seen him. 
I think it running on the 

601
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,760
Saturday. 
I had a great old chat and then 

602
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,040
I ran into him and I just 
contacted him on the shoulder 

603
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,360
thing and he just gave me the 
OR. 

604
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,320
Like, not the day. 
It wasn't the day no, and like 

605
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,720
it's it's funny, like it doesn't
matter who, how well you know 

606
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,280
someone it he didn't have a day 
and he just said and then he. 

607
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,640
Just said it's not the time. 
It's not the time. 

608
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,120
But, you know, at that time, I 
felt like one of those, you 

609
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,160
know, like, literally just a 
fan, like. 

610
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,000
Oh, can you sign my shirt 
please? 

611
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,800
Oh. 
Yeah, but no we'll. 

612
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,760
Stand down. 
So sand down, sand Down's in two

613
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,000
weekends time. 
They've got two weeks off, so 

614
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,720
I'm presuming we'll's gonna be 
up at Noosa. 

615
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,000
But here's a question for you on
that front, because we've talked

616
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,080
a bit about different sports and
formats and all the rest of it. 

617
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,120
The V Eights have got a new 
final series for the first time 

618
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,840
ever. 
I love it. 

619
00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,760
You love it. 
I love. 

620
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,840
It So for those that don't know,
I. 

621
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,160
Don't love it for Brock and that
at the moment because you know 

622
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,560
they're in box seed and they can
lose a lot, but I love it. 

623
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,000
It's a spectacle, I know, and 
off the back of Bathurst. 

624
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,720
Yeah, which was. 
An amazing. 

625
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,880
Race Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
V8 Supercars, for those that 

626
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,360
don't know, has always typically
been a first past the post. 

627
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,160
As in once you win enough points
like the F1 is, you are crowned 

628
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,760
the drivers champion. 
This year they've introduced a 

629
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,480
finals format, so play. 
Playoffs. 

630
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,160
Kind of. 
It's a playoff, so there were 

631
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,000
only 10 drivers. 
All the drivers keep racing all 

632
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,440
the races but Gold Coast there 
was only 10 drivers left in the 

633
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,840
hunt for the championship. 
At Sandown it's down to 7, so I 

634
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,760
think it was Anton De Pasquale, 
Brody Kasakini. 

635
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,920
And one more it's, I mean, it's 
NASCAR. 

636
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,680
Is that what NASCAR does? 
Is it OK? 

637
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,880
I wasn't across NASCAR? 
OK. 

638
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,960
And you like it, Love it. 
I mean, I love it as a spectator

639
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,360
because it it it, it adds to 
the, I mean, that's why there's 

640
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,760
crash. 
That's why the crashes are, you 

641
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,640
know, everyone's on the line 
because you have to push all 

642
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,680
your days over. 
So it's not just waiting it out 

643
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,240
to the end of the series to do 
that. 

644
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,200
Like I said, though, for the 
actual athletes, I think it's oh

645
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,400
wow, it's like super 1 
stressful, but 2 when you've 

646
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,040
like if you're Brock who's gone 
the whole year and is sitting, 

647
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,520
you know, with a few of the guys
up in box seed and literally 

648
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,280
crash out. 
Well, if he ends up losing the 

649
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,240
championship to someone like 
Chaz Mostert, who's hitting form

650
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,880
at the right time of the year, 
but who's never won a Super Cars

651
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,800
Drivers Championship. 
And well, I mean, if you bring 

652
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,200
it back to the running and the 
triathlon element of it, it's, 

653
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,680
oh, triathlon actually isn't 
like that. 

654
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,040
Now they run. 
It through a series. 

655
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,160
As well. 
But it's, it's so I suppose it's

656
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,320
that debate around is a single 
world championship or 

657
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,440
championship each year better 
than rewarding the person who's 

658
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,600
the most consistent for the 
year? 

659
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,760
It's it's the old age question 
and there's no, there's no 

660
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,920
answer. 
There's no right answer. 

661
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,840
Everything went that way, too. 
Yeah, with the players. 

662
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,280
And now they're going back. 
They're going back. 

663
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,200
It's in the eye of the beholder.
Ultimately, I come from the 

664
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,520
attitude of all of these sports 
have been created for 

665
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,480
entertainment purposes, so I 
think you got to put the fan, 

666
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,120
the spectator in front of mind. 
Which means the playoffs. 

667
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,120
That's my belief anyway. 
Hey, so you're at Supercars. 

668
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,800
What else has been happening? 
Busy right Friday to today is 

669
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,120
being. 
I need to, I need to wrap up my 

670
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,760
Ned's uncomfortable challenge. 
I talked about this last week 

671
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,920
and I, I jumped in with Ned's 
uncomfortable challenge. 10 day 

672
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,120
block doing something 
uncomfortable every day. 

673
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,880
I decided on stairs and I went 
with the Miami stairs, the 

674
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,520
famous rainbow stairs here on 
the Gold Coast. 

675
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,720
I was going to do the number of 
stairs, sets of stairs based on 

676
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,560
the Max forecast temperature for
the day. 

677
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,320
I'm laughing because I know what
happened 2 days ago. 

678
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:49,920
Yeah, we got, we got hit with 
the 38° day, so it was fine. 

679
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,880
Look, life got in the way. 
Like as we know with our Friday 

680
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,360
with the Jelly roll thing that 
happened, Matt Hauser was in 

681
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,640
there as well. 
My wife went away for work. 

682
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,000
I and I've got two kids. 
Life gets in the way. 

683
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,400
So I actually, I, I went into 
debt on the stairs front. 

684
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,120
So I missed, I fell seven sets 
short last Friday and then I 

685
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,320
couldn't run on the Saturday or 
the Sunday because I had my kids

686
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,000
all day and I couldn't just say 
that someone take them for an 

687
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,440
hour. 
I was really busy. 

688
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,920
So basically Monday, Tuesday and
then Wednesday of this week just

689
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,760
gone. 
I've been repaying my stair 

690
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,800
debt. 
So I've been, I've been grinding

691
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,520
out. 
I went 5052 and 49 to finish to 

692
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,960
get through the deficit that I 
went into of owing sets of 

693
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,520
stairs for Ned's uncomfortable. 
It's meant to be uncomfortable. 

694
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,160
Yeah. 
The actual because I know so how

695
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,680
many steps you would have 
counted the steps? 

696
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,040
How many steps? 
I haven't counted the steps you 

697
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:45,800
haven't. 
Counted. 

698
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,440
So I've, I've been looking at 
the elevations. 

699
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,360
So you've done 40. 
What was your Max? 

700
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,760
The biggest day I had was 52 and
you didn't count the steps at 

701
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,920
all. 
Once I didn't tell you what the 

702
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,840
elevation I got up in 52. 
What is it? 

703
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,160
Just over 835 metres of 
elevation. 

704
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,120
It's solid 52. 
So over the course of the the 

705
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,000
challenge, over the 10 days, 
I've done over 5000 metres of 

706
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,239
elevation Nintendos. 
But this is the interesting part

707
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,880
from a running perspective for 
everybody out there, because if 

708
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,800
you've got a garment and even 
Strava Premium does this, it 

709
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,520
will talk to you about your 
predicted time as you train. 

710
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,760
And this, we all love this when 
when your watch starts telling 

711
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:25,800
you you're improving or you're 
declining the stairs. 

712
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,600
And I have literally all I've 
done. 

713
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,760
I haven't done a single flat run
in the last kind of two weeks. 

714
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,199
Are you running these stairs or 
walking? 

715
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,639
I'm running, I'm touch every 
stair and I'm running them right

716
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:37,960
and I'm getting slow. 
Like I think my average when I 

717
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,719
did the 52 day, my average pace 
was about 12:30 per K because 

718
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,239
I'm going up and down and up and
down. 

719
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,840
But my this is fascinating 
because my predicted, my race 

720
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,600
predicted the Garmin will do for
you for 5-10, half and marathon.

721
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,960
The predicted time has all come 
down. 

722
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,640
Yeah, the the algorithm must 
really like elevation the. 

723
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,720
Algorithm loves elevation. 
My predicted time for my 

724
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:06,640
marathon right now is 3/13, 
which is 8 minutes faster than 

725
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,520
I've ever run a marathon. 
What about your 5K my? 

726
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,680
5K time is 1759. 
Courtney, I've run under 19 

727
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,440
minutes once in my life. 
So you're calling I'm I'm 

728
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,760
calling crap on it. 
I'm going to try this week. 

729
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,440
I'm going to go out and do a I 
might try and get out the park 

730
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,960
run or something, but I'm going 
to see where my actual 5 KS at 

731
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,920
'cause I think the algorithm, I 
think I found a a bug in the 

732
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,520
algorithm, which is that if you 
run upstairs enough, it will 

733
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,680
think. 
It it, it starts spinning. 

734
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,360
It's cold. 
It starts. 

735
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,280
Going whoa this person must be 
getting fitter or something. 

736
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,360
No one programmed me for this. 
It's saying I can do a 384510K. 

737
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,200
I've never run under 40 minutes 
for a 10K and I'm not sure 

738
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,440
whether. 
You may 300 sets. 

739
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,880
Of you may surprise. 
Yourself. 

740
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,520
Well, I'm going. 
To find out this week but yeah, 

741
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,000
in short, if you just want on 
screen improvement, go run 

742
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,120
stairs the the. 
Uncomfortable the Wellness of 

743
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,080
that for me. 
Mate it's just the 50 

744
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,560
repetitions. 
It's a lot of head noise trying 

745
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,840
to count. 
And actually it got especially 

746
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,480
when people started walking up 
and down. 

747
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,960
I was at times because of the 
stairs, I would inconvenience 

748
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,360
the same person four times. 
Oh yeah. 

749
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,520
Up, down, up, down. 
Locals, the normal walking 

750
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,920
locals down there at Miami. 
Yeah, Runners. 

751
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,040
Especially with what's happening
with the groups and everyone 

752
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,240
going not huge fans, not a huge 
fan. 

753
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,400
But anyway, that's where I'm at.
Running wise, I do have. 

754
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,640
I won't say what it is yet I do 
have another. 

755
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,560
Announcement, but we're just 
we're gonna get to. 

756
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,000
It We've got too much going on. 
There's been a lot going on, 

757
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,520
There's been a lot going on. 
You're looking at my green 

758
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,240
jumper. 
Over here, let's talk about it's

759
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,400
show and tell time. 
Courtney Atkinson show and tell 

760
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,680
Place. 
The only reason it's show and 

761
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,760
tell is because it was sitting 
on the couch as you come in 

762
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,480
here. 
But it is a, it's, I suppose 

763
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000
it's kind of like a baggy green 
jacket, right? 

764
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:55,680
It's my London 2012 jacket now 
see every single name inside. 

765
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:57,880
So this is I, I noticed this 
now. 

766
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,120
If you didn't, if people don't 
remember, there was the Dan 

767
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,520
Atkins episode we talked about, 
he Dan spoke about the new 

768
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,920
tradition they have in triathlon
Australia, the presentation of 

769
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,480
the race suit and how each 
athlete knows the number they 

770
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,280
are of with Australian triathlon
and they know that number and 

771
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,040
they race under that number and 
all the rest of that. 

772
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,720
And I laughed at you because 
you've got no idea what number 

773
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:25,960
triathlon triathlete you were 
for Australia. 

774
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,440
And we talked about how you 
know, for someone that's that is

775
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,560
their thing. 
And you just completely vacated 

776
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,440
your brain. 
And then I think you had a 

777
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,120
function coming up that you got 
invited to and you got invited 

778
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,960
to wear your blazer. 
Yes. 

779
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,960
So this is this is the story. 
This is what it is. 

780
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,760
This is the. 
Story. 

781
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,760
So this is the Blazer I grabbed 
out, but every single in in the 

782
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,080
blazer, every single name from 
every single Olympics. 

783
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,360
Another look. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go for it. 

784
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,600
Every single name of every 
Olympian is sown and is written 

785
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,720
in to. 
But this was your 2012 was your 

786
00:37:57,720 --> 00:37:59,880
first Olympics second, second 
Olympics second. 

787
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,080
So you didn't get one for. 
I did this is just a really nice

788
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,840
place. 
I had a choice of these. 

789
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,080
The other one was more like a 
business suit, but OK, I'm 

790
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,440
getting off track here because 
the reason I want to tell the 

791
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:16,240
story isn't to bloody, you know,
brag about the blazer. 

792
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,080
It's have you, if you're 
listening, have you had this 

793
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,680
predicament where you got to go 
to a function but you're just 

794
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,880
not sure how dressed up or what 
you got to wear is and you're 

795
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,440
and you're at home and you're 
asking people. 

796
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,280
Every function I go. 
Exactly. 

797
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,320
So what happens when you get an 
invite, the first invite for 

798
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,840
this function, so I think it 
was, it was an Olympic lady 

799
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,600
dysfunction up at Queensland 
House. 

800
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,280
So literally think of all we 
talked about the lobbyists, 

801
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,240
bureaucrats, politicians. 
It was literally a rumour that, 

802
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,960
but the first invitation was 
business attire and tie. 

803
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,240
And I'm like, OK, easy, right? 
You could grab out the suit, put

804
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:55,080
the tie on, walk up. 
The next invitation that comes 

805
00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:01,840
through the week of the function
was Olympians attending are not 

806
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,920
requested, it said invited to 
wear their Olympic blazer or an 

807
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,800
Olympic blazer. 
Now what do you do in that 

808
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,400
situation, Liam? 
Because the chances were, I 

809
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,360
wasn't sure one How many 
Olympians were invited 2. 

810
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,120
How many would wear their 
Blazers? 

811
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,400
How many actually read invites, 
which is a highly on the cards 

812
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:26,320
are not many and three do I turn
up as the only fella in the room

813
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,240
in a green Olympic blazer and 
look like an absolute tool. 

814
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,280
What do you what would? 
You do me. 

815
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,560
I'd wear the blazer. 
I would wear the blood. 

816
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,080
I'd wear the hell out of the 
blazer. 

817
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,440
Even Yeah, talking boys. 
Ashamedly. 

818
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,160
So what did I do? 
You would not have worn the 

819
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,000
blazer. 
No, I rang Kenny Wallace, who's 

820
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,920
who's currently at one of our 
chief. 

821
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,720
Yeah. 
What is he, Deputy chief 

822
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:53,200
dimensions for the Olympic 
Committee. 

823
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,840
Obviously he's wearing his 
blazer. 

824
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,720
Well, no, I said to Kenny, are 
you going tonight? 

825
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:00,800
He said, no, I'm like, Oh my, 
you're no help to me at all. 

826
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,600
This is you. 
You're useless. 

827
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,880
Would you wear the blazer? 
He said, oh, wait. 

828
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,680
Wear it and take your chances 
and well, I would say 3. 

829
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,120
So this is tonight. 
No, no. 

830
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,600
This was this. 
This was. 

831
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,000
It's been OK. 
I can tell you the outcome. 

832
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:14,680
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah. 

833
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,400
No. 
Did you wear it? 

834
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,960
I wore it. 
Good on you and. 

835
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,160
It was good, good. 
I reckon 3/4 of The Olympian 

836
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,640
city. 
There was probably, maybe you 

837
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,320
know, 15 of us in the room, 
right? 

838
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,880
3/4 were wearing them, all 
different ones but the green 

839
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,920
looked great. 
Oh mate, I I don't know why this

840
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,480
was even a hesitate. 
Oh, look, I totally, I 

841
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,760
understand the logic. 
I totally understand the logic. 

842
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,200
But again, we just talked about 
how I view sport and and how 

843
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,760
they should structure their 
final series. 

844
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,600
And I put it through the fans 
lens lens because that's all I 

845
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,320
am from this perspective as 
well. 

846
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,760
Again, to put a fans lens on it,
mate, you have. 

847
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,320
And despite the numerous names 
on the inside of the lining, 

848
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,400
there's a lot of names and that 
group only gets bigger as more 

849
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,240
sports get introduced. 
Yeah, exactly. 

850
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,280
You are part of an exclusive 
group. 

851
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:08,200
Such a small percentage that for
everyday Australians that will 

852
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,720
never experience that level, 
like the the notion of attending

853
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:15,400
an Olympic Games, whether it's 
the dreams of achieving ultimate

854
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,080
glory or just going into the 
village and going into that 

855
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,720
mystical food hall, you are part
of an exclusive group that you 

856
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:25,840
can't buy your way into. 
I agree, but the point is we, it

857
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,160
doesn't matter what what you 
are, what you've done. 

858
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,760
We also go through that 
function, that function, let's 

859
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,680
say scaredness of oh. 
Yeah. 

860
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,720
What are people going to turn up
wearing? 

861
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:38,600
Because you never want to be the
worst dressed, but you also 

862
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,480
never want to be completely, you
know that, you know, there's 

863
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,480
always that one. 
This is this is generally 

864
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,480
marketing, but there's always 
the one guy. 

865
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,440
You know, everyone in especially
in my world, in my normal world,

866
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,040
we all broke up in, you know, a 
small smart casual business 

867
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,280
attire these days. 
But there's always the one guy 

868
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,160
who'll come up and he's got his 
vest in the pocket square, Yeah,

869
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,320
and everything on. 
And I do look at it and go come 

870
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,640
on mate. 
Yeah, but lifes too. 

871
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,760
Lifes too short to worry. 
Lifes too short to dress like 

872
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,440
shit. 
I, I, I, I'm. 

873
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,640
I think you should wear that 
more often. 

874
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,120
I'd I'd wear that to get coffee,
Frank. 

875
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,800
Oh, you're just you're. 
Welcome. 

876
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,960
You're welcome to borrow it you.
See a bloke in an Olympic green 

877
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,320
jacket wandering through coals 
at some point over the weekend. 

878
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,080
It's me having stolen Courtney's
Olympic jacket. 

879
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,640
Fair, fair. 
OK, today if you're listening 

880
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,760
this on the Saturday we release 
this, it is news weekend, so. 

881
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,480
Fitness Christmas. 
We're all there. 

882
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,720
I'm not Except Liam. 
Keep your eye out for Courtney 

883
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:42,560
Atkinson on Weekend Sunrise. 
Oh really? 

884
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,160
This is news to me. 
Now, James Tobin, what's of 

885
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,960
Weekend Sunrise wants to talk to
you. 

886
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,080
He wanted to talk to both of us.
He called me and said any chance

887
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,720
you and Courtney are around for 
a little interview on Sunday 

888
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:54,480
morning? 
He does some hard hours. 

889
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,320
He's I love James Tobin, one of 
the greats, but it's it's 

890
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,320
fitness crew Christmas Noosa 
triathlon weekend on this 

891
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,560
weekend. 
I need to give this shout out 

892
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,560
directly to the Clydesdale crew 
courtesy of our man Jelly Roll. 

893
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,960
Yes, he's in the crew. 
He's a Clydesdale. 

894
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,640
He's a part of the Clydesdale 
crew. 

895
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,880
Yep, big share. 
The Clydesdales getting around 

896
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,680
this weekend and the Athenas we 
love. 

897
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,960
You as well and everyone anyone 
racing. 

898
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,600
Good luck. 
Anyone involved in the weekend? 

899
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,800
How excited are you for what? 
Have you got any official roles 

900
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,200
and responsibilities this 
weekend? 

901
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,680
Actually, I've got got a bit of 
a story. 

902
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,240
So yeah, I do have some official
roles. 

903
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:29,520
I mean, not too official, but. 
That's a three time winner. 

904
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,000
Yeah, yeah, I've, hey, it's 
functions, you know, kissing 

905
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,080
babies, those types of. 
Things. 

906
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,760
Exactly. 
Hey, hey. 

907
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,760
Got to do what you got to do. 
No, I've actually got to shoot 

908
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,400
back to the Gold Co. 
I've got to go up. 

909
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,400
I've got a few things to do. 
Then I'll shoot back to the Gold

910
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,840
Coast for another function, 
which is, you know, beautiful in

911
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,560
southeast Queensland. 
Traffic on a Friday. 

912
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,880
Yeah, really fun. 
But what I've got to do on 

913
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,200
Saturday, I've got the call. 
So I think I told the story on 

914
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,680
here about Richie Port. 
I was going to ride a road bike,

915
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,000
but I didn't elaborate. 
Realistically, mine wasn't in 

916
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,960
shape to even ride because I 
haven't ridden a road bike for 

917
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,280
six years. 
And someone had organised me 

918
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,160
last year to ride a road bike in
Garth Proud who who's passed and

919
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,280
and invented, You know, he's the
founder of Noosa in his morning 

920
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,800
ride, like he's the Garth Proud 
Memorial Ride. 

921
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,840
And I'm like, yeah, of course 
I'll do it, but I don't have a 

922
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,480
bike. 
So someone lent me a bike. 

923
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,920
But then Richie flattered, so 
they took the wheel off my bike.

924
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
And I went and had a coffee. 

925
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,800
Yeah, brilliant. 
Got the call again this year and

926
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:28,800
I said OK, I'm. 
I'm. 

927
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,160
I'm doing it. 
So you're right. 

928
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,640
I'm riding so terrific. 
The things I had to do. 

929
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,840
Had to order 2 new tyres for my 
bike. 

930
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,840
I used Dan's knowledge. 
I've ordered, I've ordered 30s. 

931
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,760
Good. 
My frame probably didn't fit. 

932
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,240
What do you say? 
30 sixes. 

933
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:43,000
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 30 sixes. 
Really. 

934
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,280
What? 
3230 sixes? 

935
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,480
Yes, I got 30s. 
Yeah. 

936
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,760
New chain. 
Yep so all the things that I 

937
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,520
thought after six years sitting 
there and only being really used

938
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,000
on a wind trainer every so often
what would break. 

939
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,720
Yep and I'm gonna go out there 
and ride. 

940
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:59,840
But we don't get told Remember 
the the Legends race, relay 

941
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:00,280
race? 
Yeah. 

942
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,360
That we do each year. 
We we don't get told until 

943
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,800
pretty much the last minute. 
What leg you gonna do Yeah yeah,

944
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,920
yeah. 
So it's. 

945
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,080
So you're racing in it though? 
I am racing terrific. 

946
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,320
It's Russian roulette. 
Sam Collins late, late addition,

947
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,800
he's gonna jump in or Sue's team
he's in took. 

948
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,280
Took's in there. 
Took's coming for a race, I feel

949
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,360
the Gold Coast sun boys and then
we'll see who usual. 

950
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,840
Suspects will be there as well. 
You'll have you'll have Jeff 

951
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,400
Shipper, you'll have Suzie 
O'Neill. 

952
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,120
Yep, Kyle will be up there 
again, I imagine. 

953
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,080
Kenny. 
There's a good, consistent crew.

954
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:31,840
That's true. 
I'll look honestly. 

955
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaking of James Tobin again. 
Well, if he's up there. 

956
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,560
No, he's not going to make it up
there in time for that, but he 

957
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,760
and I were reminiscing because 
he and I know have gone in the 

958
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,640
last couple of years and JT and 
I laughed that we'll always have

959
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,720
that moment when we started out 
the run league. 

960
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,560
We're both running for our 
respective teams and he and I 

961
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,680
and Beth McKenzie, who's a 
legend of trail running here in 

962
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,560
Australia, former professional 
Highland with the three of us 

963
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,280
started out running together and
James and I made the mistake of 

964
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,680
trying to keep pace with Beth 
McKenzie and 400 metres in, he 

965
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,480
and I both looked at each other 
and said this is way too fast. 

966
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,480
And we both the Lactaid. 
Lactaid instantly have an 

967
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,280
incredible weekend to everybody 
who's up there, whether it be 

968
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,720
for the first time or for the 
50th time. 

969
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,880
Enjoy what is just one of the 
greatest weekends on the 

970
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,760
Australian Fitness I. 
Felt the stats they released the

971
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:27,320
stats. 3000 first timers so 
good, 3000 so good. 

972
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,840
And then and then I suppose it's
those 3000 that because we've 

973
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,640
got some really good feedback 
about Dan chatting, you know, 

974
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:36,960
like he's from from the elite 
side right down to, you know, 

975
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,720
the beginner side. 
It's the first time as I was 

976
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,160
even when I was having a swim 
this morning out down in Telly 

977
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,880
Creek with the mob and a few 
people said we've been listening

978
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,240
to the podcast, we're heading to
the news. 

979
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,400
Thanks if anybody's. 
If anybody's racing it for the 

980
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,280
first time this weekend and 
you're listening to this, tell 

981
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,120
us, give us a race review. 
Tell us how it went. 

982
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,080
Tell us what was great. 
Tell us what sucked. 

983
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,120
Talk to us about Struggle St 
Tell us how the surf club we 

984
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,280
want. 
I want warts and all. 

985
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,440
I'm not going to be there this 
year. 

986
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,160
So I'm devastated. 
But I had to drop my wife's bike

987
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,680
in because she's lending it to a
friend who's racing this year. 

988
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,880
And yeah, I said to the guys of 
the crime and Cycles hasn't been

989
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,800
used in 12 months, $196 for a 
full service needed new bar 

990
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,520
tape, all the rest. 
I said money well spent because 

991
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,400
this thing was not on. 
An old bike, you know, you just 

992
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,800
mechanics, you'll get through 
90% of it, yeah, really quick. 

993
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,640
And then there'll be something. 
There'll be something that's a 

994
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,200
problem. 
There'll be something a rusted 

995
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,600
out bolt, and you'll spend 3 
freaking hours trying to work 

996
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,760
out how to remove it. 
I look, I do. 

997
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,960
There's so much more we wanted 
to get to. 

998
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,720
The Jelly roll has put a has 
thrown our world into chaos. 

999
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,520
We will resume normal programme 
to some extent as we move 

1000
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,920
forward in the coming weeks. 
I want to just give a little 

1001
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,320
tease into next week though, 
because there's something I want

1002
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,440
to share with you, Courtney, in 
the in the beginning family 

1003
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,920
running, we talked about the 
boom. 

1004
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,600
We're seeing these events. 
We you've talked about how your 

1005
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,760
favourite thing is to run 
overseas. 

1006
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,600
When you go into new places to 
run around to discover it. 

1007
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,000
There's a brand new thing called
travel Runner. 

1008
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,800
In fact, Staffa, let's talk 
about it now. 

1009
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,440
We've got time. 
We'll finish off with this 

1010
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,320
travelrunner.com. 
This is a newly launched 

1011
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,440
website, your go to source for 
running friendly accommodations,

1012
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,640
a community created by and for 
travel runners. 

1013
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:33,440
So this is essentially it's it's
a travel company, it's flight 

1014
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,440
centre for runners. 
Experience your perfect getaway 

1015
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,200
in three easy steps. 
Discover your ideal stays so you

1016
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,640
can explore reviewed hostels and
hotels by travel runners. 

1017
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,000
You book and then you can run. 
Enjoy. 

1018
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,920
So it's basically finding you 
accommodation based on running 

1019
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,480
routes running. 
OK, so if you're travelling for 

1020
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,720
work. 
That's a great idea, but or even

1021
00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:58,400
for holidays. 
So like in the same way people 

1022
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:03,120
use Strava heat maps. 
Imagine if you had you went to 

1023
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,600
book a trip somewhere knowing 
you wanted to run there 

1024
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,480
anywhere. 
Well, if you're looking to run, 

1025
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,800
here is where you want to stay. 
Yeah, right. 

1026
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,640
I just think it's a really 
interesting service and it's 

1027
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,200
that next evolution of the 
running boom. 

1028
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,680
Yeah, I suppose then it's like, 
you know, Click to click, click 

1029
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,320
in the hotel you want, it goes 
to booking.com or whatever and. 

1030
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,560
Yeah, I haven't used it. 
Probably get a big Commission on

1031
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,360
the side of it. 
That's a that's a business idea.

1032
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,040
But but then it has the perfect 
London Marathon hotel. 

1033
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,960
Where to stay for the Boston 
Marathon Hotel? 

1034
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,400
Where I thought you were going. 
Great idea. 

1035
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:31,200
I love it. 
Yeah. 

1036
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,160
I mean it's something that if 
you go into a city, you 

1037
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,280
definitely look at all all 
regional places. 

1038
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,360
But I thought you were going 
because I have seen a lot more 

1039
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:43,160
of businesses now doing the 
whole, let's say it's a run 

1040
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,320
tour. 
So you you go away on a tour, 

1041
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,000
but instead of being a wine 
tasting tour, it is literally 

1042
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,680
you're on a running tour. 
So you go to a region, say 

1043
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,520
you're going to visit Spain and 
there's a host and you're on the

1044
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,280
tour just like it's like the 
Kentucky for runners. 

1045
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,000
Yeah, yeah. 
Gotcha. 

1046
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,680
Actually, you mentioned you 
mentioned that. 

1047
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:07,040
There's a few businesses there. 
There's like, I'm sure there's 

1048
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,760
plenty out there, but I'm seeing
this pop up more and more across

1049
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:11,960
socials trying to get you to go 
and. 

1050
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,760
Join your conversation about 
marathons, wineries, running. 

1051
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,720
Oh, we got some feedback on 
that, didn't we? 

1052
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,000
Manned W on Spotify said I 
agree. 

1053
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,120
Running in a wine region is a 
thumbs down. 

1054
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,440
I did Barossa marathon a couple 
of years back. 

1055
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,840
Most boring marathon today. 
Yeah, pretty honest feedback. 

1056
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,320
No, there was a few who wrote in
and go. 

1057
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,520
We agree. 
Like, you know, wine regions 

1058
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,000
don't, which is crazy to me 
because there's so much dirt. 

1059
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,320
There is so much, there's so 
much do it, No, do it. 

1060
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,680
Like there's so many like paths.
This was I I mentioned him 

1061
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,720
earlier in the in the pod, but I
should give him a shout out. 

1062
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:51,120
Scott Gibson 2110 on Spotify. 
The only people that bag out 

1063
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,160
half tights are guys that 
haven't run in them. 

1064
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,320
Once you try it, you won't go 
back. 0 chafe. 

1065
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,680
Great for holding gels and 
doesn't restrict your stride at 

1066
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,640
all like you're wearing nothing 
at all. 

1067
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,320
I think that's the problem for 
me, Scott. 

1068
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,880
I think it's too close to. 
Well, hey, one more, one more. 

1069
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,960
Because I don't we'll, we'll 
move on and we forget these. 

1070
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,040
But now I don't know who what 
his name is, but connection AC 

1071
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,040
was something. 
And he said I'm a New Mexican 

1072
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,360
follower and listener. 10 years 
ago I came to the Gold Coast to 

1073
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,440
train and learn from Dan. 
So he must have trained under 

1074
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,480
Dan Evans. 
And then he said, I remember 

1075
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,160
swimming in a place from the 
start and I used to swim to 

1076
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,560
Courtney's place. 
I can't believe I lived there or

1077
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,760
he lived there. 
Obviously old fellow grew up 

1078
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,400
watching me race on TV and 
that's we got. 

1079
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,440
Amazing. 
Obviously, obviously, Dan used 

1080
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,720
to say to the boys, swim to 
Courtney, swing to Courtneys. 

1081
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,160
House. 
If you think Dan said, I mean 

1082
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,680
not Dan Matt. 
Matt said the same thing, right?

1083
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,120
Your house is the turning boy. 
It's. 

1084
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,040
My turning boy and I wonder we 
used to get woken up at 4:30 in 

1085
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,720
the morning from the the dog. 
Barking brilliant. 

1086
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:55,200
All right, on that note, we're 
going to finish up a little bit 

1087
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,480
of a shorter 1 today than 
normal. 

1088
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,120
I know. 
I hope you're enjoying it on 

1089
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,840
your long run Sunday or your 
regular run Saturday. 

1090
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,720
Again for those of you on news. 
So first time, 10th time enjoy 

1091
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:07,480
Fitness Christmas, it is the 
best weekend of the year. 

1092
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,560
Enjoy and we will see you next. 
Week. 

1093
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,200
And if you see me up at News, so
come and say G'day.

