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In the beginning, episode 26 
mate. 

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How are you travelling? 
Because I'm knackered. 

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It's funny when you, you know, 
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the cyclone in southeast 
Queensland here. 

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We've just, you know, come out 
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as they're saying now. 
But anxiety. 

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Yeah. 
Is harder than running. 

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Yeah, the fatigue of a week 
filled with anxiety is better 

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than any 6070 K week I've run 
over the last couple of months. 

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If, if, if you're in southeast 
Queensland, you're probably sick

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of Cyclone Alfred. 
And if you're outside of 

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tropical Queensland, you're 
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southeast Queensland. 
Sorry, you're probably not 

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really aware of all of exactly 
how. 

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I wouldn't say devastating 
because it was a huge weather 

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pattern, but we were given so 
much notice by the local 

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government, the council, 
everything. 

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It felt like we were bracing for
this for a week. 

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Well, we were, and tough luck if
you don't want to hear about it 

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because you're about to. 
Yeah, Yeah, But I agree. 

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I mean, one thing for sure is 
you're never going to trust the 

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weather, bro, ever again. 
I mean, they were so certain 

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when it was going to hit, where 
it was going to hit, how it was 

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going to hit, and then it just 
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As in and it started doing 
cycle. 

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It did. 
Circles out there one night and 

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doing U turns. 
Then when it hit, it didn't even

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hit, it didn't cross the coast. 
Well, you know what I found 

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really interesting, more so 
with, I suppose the TV news is 

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in the case. 
Normally when you get, you know,

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devastation cyclones, you see up
north, it happens and then 

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pretty quickly it moves on. 
So then there's Sun and they can

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get helicopters, drones and 
everything else up. 

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You noticed when you're watching
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was going on for nearly four. 
Days. 

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That's an interesting. 
That that was my observation and

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what made me think because it 
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continued to go. 
Yeah, they had nothing to show 

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except Crumban car park and some
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she was getting blown eye on the
beach that was literally there 

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weather for two days. 
It's, it was, it's been a really

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interesting experience for me do
covering it on radio. 

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I've never covered anything like
this before, a weather event 

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like this before on radio and 
podcasting is awesome, but it's 

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not immediate. 
And you and I and I really 

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learnt over the last week the 
value of radio in times like 

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tropical cyclones because it's 
the immediacy, right? 

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And So what we had Did you lose 
power here? 

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No, I was we we were lucky. 
Here go obviously live here on a

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lake. 
Yeah, if you went across the 

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other side of the lake, they 
didn't have power. 

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OK, So Doctor Ben who lives, you
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had power, but he was looking 
across the water to people 

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without power. 
Is that crazy? 

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So we had we lost power for two 
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three days without power. 
Thankfully our next door 

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neighbour had a generator and he
just hooked our fridge up so 

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we're able to keep food cool and
frozen all the rest of it. 

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And we had a little camp stove 
cooker that we were using and 

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whatever, we were fine. 
Yeah, right. 

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But it was the IT was the 
loomingness. 

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It was the the weight, the 
bracing, It was the waiting. 

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It was all that, that, yeah, 
physically exhausts you. 

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And then on Sunday night, there 
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where I live, for Crumbanel and 
Laura proper full blown red. 

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Yep. 
You know, evacuate or. 

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Get on the red. 
Action now and and again. 

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At that point, did you suddenly 
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Oh, yeah, I had, I had as bad a 
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long time that night. 
So because, and I know in my 

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head, I know logically where we 
are if that floods, like if, if,

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if we, if our house gets 
flooded, you're talking Noah's 

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Ark type stuff. 
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Because every, yeah, we're we're
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where we are for us to become 
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It is end of day stuff, but the 
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had been given this warning and 
that my 8 year old 'cause she's 

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old enough to like, you know, 
read so she can read stuff. 

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She got really nervous and then 
I had to kind of walk her 

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outside and go look, that's the 
we'd have to have all the rain 

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to flood all of that. 
And it would have to come up all

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that high and then on the front 
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And explaining it to her helped 
because it calmed me down a bit.

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But it's still, I still went to 
bed that night with just an 

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incredible sense of, well, I 
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a deep sleep here because. 
Just in case. 

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Just in case, yeah. 
So to get back to what we 

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started is it's been fairly 
taxing the last week and then to

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turn up to work on the radio and
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people. 
And, and again, you just every 

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time somebody called through on 
the show, he just got that sense

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of uneasiness and and confusion.
And I actually think the Gold 

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Coasters community has held 
itself together really well 

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throughout all this. 
I think you know the well we 

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were. 
That I think that going back a 

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lot of people are going to 
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and over prepared, but that's 
what allowed it to be I, I think

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quite a good outcome because if 
it went the other way it would 

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have been a disaster and then we
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Prepared and I and I thought 
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I thought that if there are 
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bang on about this was a bit of 
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over a hype that we had, you 
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That's fine. 
Just opt out of all 

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notifications. 
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So next time one of these things
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It'll be a nice surprise for 
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How many people do you reckon 
have radios that have batteries,

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battery operated radios? 
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people in you know, that have 
said literally I got caught out 

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because we did lose power. 
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suddenly realised I can't charge
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battery goes I've that's my 
communication gone if. 

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You wanted to pick up either a 
battery operated radio, a 

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generator, anything like that on
Facebook Marketplace. 

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This should be the week to do it
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people looking to offload the 
ones that they purchased in a 

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panic. 
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The radio was an amazing comfort
over the weekend. 

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It would like. 
We had it on 24/7 listening, 

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getting updates, and it was, 
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what radio offers as opposed to 
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Forms of media. 
I was watching TV because we did

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have power, but I was thinking 
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map that didn't have power 
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you're not getting the same 
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I'm watching SO and. 
Where? 

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Are you getting? 
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and the and the deputy mayors 
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show during this and all their 
advice was pointing saying go to

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this website, you know, to find 
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And the response from a lot of 
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So crazy shout out Bunnings. 
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The first one was, you know, 
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busted my 20 litre drum, water 
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So I thought I'll do the right 
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go over. 
There was still a 20 litre water

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drum left at Bunnings just 
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Waters. 
When I went to get this was like

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literally the day we're 
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ready to stay at home. 
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crazy. 
Everyone's got their toilet 

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paper, their food and everything
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the water drum. 
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all over yesterday, my, my 
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neighbours here, oh don't worry,
Courtney will get his chainsaw 

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out and fix the trees out the 
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Now I haven't used my chainsaw 
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Went to get the chainsaw filled 
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went I got the air philtre out 
of it and it literally crumbled 

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in my hands. 
So it didn't work. 

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Yeah. 
So now I'm thinking, well she's 

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put me in it now. 
Went went over and a few other 

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things were wrong with it. 
Look, I need a new. 

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Chainsaw. 
You need lower the chainsaw. 

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Went over to Bunnings, there's a
chainsaw of all things you would

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think go a water container and a
chainsaw. 

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Everyone's worried about their 
toilet paper, everything else. 

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Now see, I think there's levels 
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another level. 
So you reckon I'm prepping? 

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No, you're no, but you're you're
a capable prepper. 

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So for people, because I again, 
it's a bit like running, you're 

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at the elite level, semi elite 
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I am at the every person level. 
So the every person like me, we 

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just prepped with bottles of 
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That was our level of prepping. 
The idea that we'd get out there

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with a heavy machinery and 
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absolute nonsense. 
Courtney I got big bags, big 

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party bags of chips and I reckon
that's, you know, that's that's 

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how we prep. 
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preps. 
Courtney, We don't go and buy 

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actual useful. 
Things good. 

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Good to know for next. 
Time. 

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So now look, all as I said, All 
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week. 
Yeah, we, we are going to talk a

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bit. 
We'll talk. 

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About the running later, we'll. 
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but all I want to say just tease
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Did you run? 
Yes, OK, I did run now. 

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We'll talk about that later. 
Then great things that happened 

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that were stuck inside and I did
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Survive. 
The F1 Netflix series dropped 

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latest series on Friday. 
The latest series dropped on 

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Friday. 
Do yourself a favour and watch 

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it now. 
No, no spoiler rule Max. 

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Verstappen wins the World 
Championship. 

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Well, you know what happens in 
that case, but I mean to see 

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behind the scenes like this, but
why I want to call it out was 

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props to them. 
They were the originals. 

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So, so many sports. 
Now I've copied and I think it 

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was the 7th. 
I didn't realise how long 

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they've been doing it. 
Seven seasons. 

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They re really that series 
recreated sport for everyone. 

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Sports documentaries so it. 
Doesn't matter whether you're 

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you're running, you're NBA, 
basketball, whatever. 

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Everyone else is a copycat. 
Mm Hmm, that production company 

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who did the original drive to 
survive must be multi multi 

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multi multi millionaires by now 
because I know a lot of the the 

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other sports utilise that 
production company out of the UK

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to then go on and make try to 
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follow suits. 
Some have been done well, some 

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have been done pretty average, 
right? 

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Have you watched? 
Have you watched Full Swing? 

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The G1. 
Didn't watch the G1, I think I 

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tried to watch a couple of once 
I tried to watch the tennis one 

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and didn't get through it. 
Tennis, I couldn't survive. 

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The NBA ones I can. 
Starting five and then there's 

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another one also on it Netflix 
called quarter of gold, which 

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follows the dream or the 
American basketball team the. 

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Running 1, the Sprint was great.
Amazing. 

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So that transformed 'cause I 
think we've maybe touched on 

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that when we're talking about 
cow, cow. 

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I would not have known who was 
in the 200 metre final at the 

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Olympics. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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I mean, it makes sports. 
But let's just remember Drive to

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Survive and F1 being the 
pinnacle of, you know, I suppose

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luxury sport, whatever it is, 
money in sport, that of the 

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original is still here. 
F1 this weekend? 

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No. 
F1 today today. 

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And this weekend, as people 
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I'm going to be in Melbourne. 
You'll be in Melbourne? 

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I would be. 
If you're listening to this on 

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Sunday, Saturday or Sunday. 
You'll be trackside. 

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Be trackside exciting first 
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how would how would a drive to 
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marathoning or trail running? 
Could you do it? 

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I think would. 

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I think it's got to have the end
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really top end competition that 
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But really, it's a storytelling.
Yeah, process. 

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Could you could you do it? 
OK, well let me. 

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Interesting. 
Yeah. 

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No, I might. 
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and and localise it in a way 
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Do you think there's enough 
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something like a Gold Coast 
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slightly more further? 
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competing. 
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surf? 
Could you do a miniaturised 

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version? 
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Drive for Survive. 
You could. 

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I mean, I think the one thing 
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any of them. 
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backtracking my original answer 
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have the circus that goes with 
that sport. 

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So if you think about Sprint, 
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the Sprint is egotistic, 
actually loud, the personality 

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in it. 
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distance runner, I'm not gonna 
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statement, but you know, they're
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withdrawn. 
Why is that? 

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Why do you think that is? 
You've been an Olympian, You 

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know what? 
What sports carry certain egos? 

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Why is it, do you think that the
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there is less bravado? 
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I'll answer your question, but 
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Tour de French riders, there's a
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behind the scenes. 
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really well as well. 
But the riders themself, it's 

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they're not overly. 
Shall we? 

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Are they like the sprinters, 
like the F1? 

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No, no, no. 
I would say more so than middle 

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distance or long distance 
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Sport though, has the circus. 
It's what goes with the sport 

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and what at the moment you take 
some of those small sports, they

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just don't have that circus 
that, you know, the events and 

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then what creates, you know, the
hype around it. 

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That's more than the sport, 
however, you know, why couldn't 

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distance running have that? 
Maybe it's a different type of 

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proposition than like the end 
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And we're talking about, you 
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in the last week, Harry Styles, 
you know, is it the celebrity 

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type runners that create a 
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runners? 
The my my brain has raced off 

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while you were just giving that 
answer. 

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Not that I wasn't listening, but
my brain has raced off in Do you

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remember the Simon Pegg movie 
run Fat Boy? 

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No, it was an English movie 
about Simon Pegg's character who

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essentially says I'm going to 
run the London Marathon, right? 

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That's the basic premise of it. 
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off my head going, could you do 
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of Drive to Survive, even about 
a local park run, if you found 

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the right characters and noise 
around it? 

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Or could you potentially create 
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story around? 
Of course you could Something 

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like that. 
I mean, you can make a story out

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of anything. 
I mean, you Have you ever seen 

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Bo Miles? 
I think. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
On on YouTube, yeah. 

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I mean this. 
Is a bloke who picks up rubbish 

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and makes it into a doco. 
Yeah, like, I mean, he, I 

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actually the first time I saw 
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for 40 days or something. 
I mean, you can create a if you 

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can tell a story, you can create
a story out of anything. 

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I just really think those, you 
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big time now of like Netflix and
that type of thing, it's really 

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you've got to have a circus of a
sport. 

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People are interested in the 
glam and the glam, the glitter 

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and. 
Stay with me for a second. 

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Could we, could we put on a 
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AA10K or a 5K or a half marathon
or whatever. 

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And you create that circus by 
going and getting those run 

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influencers who back themselves 
in the noisy ones, going and 

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getting those noisy ones to 
participate. 

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But then also going and getting 
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creating that rivalry between a 
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But then also going and getting 
just some bigger names who might

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not be really elite level 
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But I'm just trying to think 
like, I remember Hamish Blake 

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did this amazing thing. 
Hamish and Andy did this amazing

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thing on their radio show years 
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Katie Holmes ran the New York 
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think Hamish said I could run 
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her time. 
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time. 
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set it up and Hamish tried to go
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time running around Albert Park 
in Melbourne. 

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Did you beat her? 
I think you did, yeah. 

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But that idea of if you went and
got those characters and brought

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them into the running world with
some sort of a DACO celebrity 

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race challenge thing. 
Oh. 

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I I think there's something in 
this that definitely in, you 

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know, you mentioned city to surf
or somewhere a little bit of a, 

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you know, a race. 
But yeah, I'm, I'm not sure. 

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But what I do know, what I do 
know, there is possibility. 

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I mean, more and more people are
coming across running. 

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There has to be some interesting
content out there of what's 

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behind the scenes. 
OK. 

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Yep. 
What about White Lotus? 

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You across this one. 
This is the new season. 

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I've watched the 1st 2. 
I haven't. 

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I haven't watched any of this 
latest season though, but I know

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it's in Thailand. 
It is. 

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It is in Thailand. 
It's a it's a nice spot, but the

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reason I bring it up is they 
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kind of hotel thing and being in
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one's particularly at a Wellness
camp, there's some kind of trend

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out there all like stuff I'm 
seeing around, you know, 

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Wellness being the next big 
tourism status symbol. 

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So not just, you know, that's 
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like that's where the high 
Flyers are going up. 

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You know, I don't know what in 
the past you would have seen as 

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like the goal or what's the 
perfect holiday. 

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Maybe it was ski holidays. 
Maybe it was, you know, going to

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no. 
Fields, yeah. 

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I'd also say boats like yacht 
like being boats, yachts or 

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whatever. 
Wellness. 

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Wellness places being the new 
status. 

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There's quite a few around us 
here on the on southeast in this

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Gold Coast, SE, Queensland, 
Northern Rivers corner. 

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Yeah, I know. 
There's one up in Grumman called

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Eden, not far from where I am in
the. 

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Back of the Valley. 
Yeah, there's a bunch down in 

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Byron obviously as well. 
Look it you know it, it is 

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perfectly on pace with 
everything else we see. 

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Non alcoholic beers, non 
alcoholic spirits, non 

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alcoholic. 
The non alcoholic boom within 

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the beer one and spirits 
industry is bigger than it has 

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ever been. 
The creation of run club. 

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There would be more run clubs 
than have ever existed before in

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history of the world from a a 
products market. 

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I imagine that health and well 
being market is more saturated 

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than it has ever been, so it 
only makes sense that the 

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tourism industry embraces this 
as well. 

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And I high disposable income 
people. 

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We we think obviously run clubs 
are booming and runnings are, 

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you know, and it is, yeah. 
Do you still think just general 

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Wellness people out there just 
wanting to be healthy going and 

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you know, I don't know what 
else, what do you do for your 

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health going and seeing certain?
Professionals. 

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No, no, no. 
I mean, we, we, we just run let.

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Me ask you this question, Cordy.
What else do you think people do

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for their health aside from 
running? 

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Well, I'm, I'm, my mind kind of 
went to 60 minutes. 

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I'm, I mean, you know when you 
see someone on 60 minutes 

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telling them, hey, how they're 
going to live. 

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Yeah, 60 years. 
There's that bloke who's trying 

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to live forever. 
Yeah, maybe that's the guy I'm 

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thinking of. 
Like, you know, they're doing, 

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they're underneath infrared 
beds. 

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And that's when I think Wellness
in that term. 

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Wellness, yeah, that's where my 
mind goes. 

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Like ice bath being probably 
entry point that is. 

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Yes, OK, here we. 
Go. 

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That's pure entry point hot and.
Cold ice hot and cold plunges. 

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Saunas that feels like you're 
you're gateway drug. 

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What's a what's a few places on 
the Gold Coast there's like so. 

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You got rigs recovery? 
Yeah. 

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Is it CP3 or no? 
There's another gym that R3 or 

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something. 
Like that I went to soak, I went

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to soak one day with my wife and
oh man, it's nice to sit in a 

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pool. 
But you can do that as a resort 

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too. 
I mean, like I understand the 

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whole recovery centre thing that
that now is accessible. 

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What is done is it's made it 
accessible to everyone. 

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So you hear about when you're 
talking about starting five and 

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you're seeing all the 
basketballers with their own 

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masseuse, ice bath and 
everything, They're all, yeah, 

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all at their home. 
That's what elite athletes get 

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to do. 
Now everyone gets to have a bit 

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of a slice of that if you want 
to go to one of these centres 

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where I was going. 
So like if you think about ice 

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bath being the entry point 
infrared, then they've got these

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new, you know, saunas that you 
press different colours and 

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buttons and then I'm sure it 
scales up into. 

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Peptide I was going to say the 
next step up would be the IV 

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drip places, the fluid 
replacement places, which I I 

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and I have friends who've gone 
to these places and in my head 

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and I'd like to investigate it 
because I'm genuinely curious 

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about it I'm not don't know if 
I'm keen to ever try one, but 

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I'm. 
Curious an IV. 

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What? 
But the places where you go, 

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essentially a lot of people seem
to go there either because they 

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are athletes or because they're 
hungover and and they've had a 

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Bender of a weekend they need to
replenish themselves. 

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When, when we used to, I used to
write when we were up in Japan 

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racing because obviously in 
summer there it's excruciatingly

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hot. 
The first thing we'd do was 

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literally get off the course, 
get to the medical tent and say 

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dehydrated like I need and get 
the drip because. 

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Put drip in but I. 
Mean it was the best sailing 

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just. 
It's just, it's just water. 

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Yeah. 
See, I don't think that's 

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getting these play all these 
places put into you. 

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Yeah, well, just getting 
hydrated as quick as possible 

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for recovery because you've just
done such hard race. 

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Now that's illegal. 
Now you can't have a drip. 

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Why? 
Why have they made it illegal 

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'cause I remember. 
The bladder I. 

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Remember the Brisbane Lions got 
in trouble for doing this cause 

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at one point the Lions back in 
Simon Black and Michael Lawson, 

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the dominant years and Akron and
everybody they had them sitting 

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on the bench with their IV 
drips. 

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Well, I. 
Mean that's that's full on but 

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it but for recovery it makes 
sense if you're playing in a hot

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conditions and then you want to 
recover for the next day like as

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quick as possible. 
You want like just like you want

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fluids in your body ASAP. 
It's the same same theory. 

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The reason I would suggest I 
don't know the background of 

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this someone probably will know,
but I'm assuming it's got to do 

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with needles. 
So any type of injection, self 

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administered or not has to be 
notified. 

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You you have to know if you're 
in that, you know, at Olympic 

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level sport or in those sports, 
they get drug tested. 

451
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,200
Any from my understanding, I've 
been out of it for a few, you 

452
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,040
know, a few years now. 
But any needle that you inject 

453
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,640
needs to be notified. 
Can we so if if if that's wrong 

454
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,200
someone who's someone will 
someone is still getting drug 

455
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,000
tested. 
Every week stop down a little 

456
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,480
bit on drug testing. 
Yep. 

457
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,800
In your career? 
Yep. 

458
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,360
How was it? 
It was normal. 

459
00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:11,160
What is that experience? 
It was completely normal. 

460
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:16,240
So pretty much since I was 
pretty much since I was a 

461
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:22,160
teenager, yeah. 
We would have to fill in an hour

462
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,240
each day. 
You had to put into a a digital 

463
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,680
system an hour each day where 
drug tester could find you and 

464
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,840
you had to be, you have to be in
that location. 

465
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,720
If you're not in that location 
when they come knocking, it's a 

466
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,640
break. 
It's a strike. 

467
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,000
Three strikes. 
How did you manage that? 

468
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,280
Well, different sports, it's 
easier or harder in different 

469
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,200
sports. 
And look, if you were 

470
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,440
travelling, you could have some 
travel days in there. 

471
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,600
Like if you like legitimate 
purposes, sure, but day to day 

472
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,360
it was more challenging. 
Well, the way I went about it 

473
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:58,280
was I'm gonna be at home after 
dinner 90% of the time. 

474
00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,760
That's when I knew I'd be at 
home. 

475
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,040
If you were a swimmer and you 
know you're going to be at the 

476
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,440
swimming pool every morning at 
from 5:00 to 7:00, it becomes a 

477
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,280
bit easier, right? 
Because you're going to be there

478
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,680
every morning between 5:00 to 
7:00. 

479
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,880
And if you got up and got sick, 
it's a game of chance, right? 

480
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,360
If you remember to change the 
time, you probably could. 

481
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:17,680
If you if you don't, the 
likelihood. 

482
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,960
Of them turning up at. 
That hour is pretty unlucky, but

483
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,640
that's the reason there's three 
strikes now. 

484
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,760
In some periods of times those 
three strikes have been utilised

485
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,600
for probably sinister purposes. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

486
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,640
But may I? 
Did you ever get a strike? 

487
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,920
I no, I don't think I did. 
Never had a strike. 

488
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,000
Never had a strike. 
Yeah, but I do recall. 

489
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,120
So you asked, what was it like? 
Yeah, I would have two people 

490
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:46,200
turn up at my front door, ring 
the doorbell and when you heard 

491
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,480
it at 7:30, you're like, oh, no,
especially when you've had a big

492
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,920
day and you're dehydrated 
because you, they could be here 

493
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,000
with you till 9:00 PM at night 
because you've got to pee. 

494
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,960
So the first thing you do, I'd 
sit at my where you walk in and 

495
00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:02,200
see my kitchen table on the 
white kitchen bench. 

496
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,320
I'd get blood drawn. 
Once that was drawn, the nurse 

497
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,960
was able to leave. 
They'd go home, send it off in, 

498
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,720
you know, it was a little ice 
packed bag. 

499
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,960
It'd go off to the lab and then 
the other guy would wait to see 

500
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,360
me pee. 
And and now how did that work? 

501
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,760
So literally the toilet to your 
left there? 

502
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,000
Yep, I'd have to keep the door 
open. 

503
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,280
I'd turn to the side. 
Yep, let him have a look at the 

504
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,720
old fella. 
You had to. 

505
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:35,560
Hunt, you don't have a choice. 
He needs to see fluid, right? 

506
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,640
Literally. 
Literally leaving the head. 

507
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,280
He needs to see. 
He needs to see the the exit. 

508
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,960
He needs to see 'cause there's 
been obviously in certain 

509
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:47,440
instances people with like bags 
and different, you know, some 

510
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,920
are using someone else's urine 
and all that. 

511
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,720
But that that's, I mean, that's 
as true and as honest as I can 

512
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,280
give it. 
And that would happen. 

513
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,440
I could go six months and no one
would turn up to that door. 

514
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,640
And you can kind of obviously it
was, I always say it was 

515
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,200
targeted in a certain way. 
Like I would be like pre season 

516
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,680
before I'd go overseas. 
Generally I knew I'd get one or 

517
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,080
two knocks. 
Yep, Just making sure that in 

518
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,600
our offseason we weren't 
probably doing anything to. 

519
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,400
And was that, would that have 
been across the board or because

520
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,240
you were one of the better 
athletes at the pointy end, you 

521
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,040
could expect it more 
consistently? 

522
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,760
Yeah, I think in Australia here 
at least, I mean I can't speak 

523
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,440
for around the rest of the 
globe, but in Australia, I do 

524
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,880
believe it was always targeted 
at you're more the top. 

525
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,800
Performers the top. 
Performers who were gonna go, 

526
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,320
and I don't know where, that's 
because of protect, like nearly 

527
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,280
protecting Australia in a way. 
Also probably protecting the 

528
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,200
sport of the sport. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

529
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,480
So making you know, and they're 
making sure and you're testing 

530
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,200
the ones who are actually going 
off to compete overseas because 

531
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,800
that's. 
The reality if if a if a if a 

532
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,360
battler in any sport. 
That's a feeling I don't know. 

533
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:50,840
No, I really don't know, but I. 
Think it's a feeling probably 

534
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,200
shared amongst the common 
public. 

535
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,680
We see it's rules for some. 
We see it's very easy to punish 

536
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,680
harshly someone at the lower 
level of a sport because it's 

537
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,560
not seen as much of A casualty. 
And I don't mean this harshly, I

538
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,160
just mean this in the reality. 
Whereas if the number one in any

539
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,360
sport in the world, the top 
performer get it's done, that is

540
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,160
a tonne, it's that is a black 
mark on the entire sport. 

541
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,040
Yeah, like, I think if you talk 
to someone like if, you know, we

542
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,760
ever got the talk to say Grant 
Hackett or someone like that in 

543
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,160
his eight day, he was getting 
down at Miami pool at that set, 

544
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,800
5:00 to 7:00 AM period. 
MMM. 

545
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,320
Yeah. 
The the the testers would turn 

546
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,760
up to swim pools all the time 
because then they could get also

547
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,000
not they'd get like, you know? 
5 for one yeah, yeah, yeah, you 

548
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,760
know it's. 
Like a, it was like a bargain. 

549
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,000
They didn't, you know, the, the 
agency probably didn't have to 

550
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,480
pay them, you know, triple time.
They were just knocking, 

551
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,160
knocking them out. 
And it's always easier in the 

552
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,720
morning as well, you know, 
around fluids. 

553
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,040
And then the second period you'd
get done with, if you performed 

554
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,920
well at a race generally, at at 
least in triathlon, in that like

555
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,920
kind of World Cup world 
championship style level, the 

556
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,280
top three would generally just 
be automatically sent to the 

557
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,960
room. 
And then they'd maybe take like 

558
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,720
two or three others randomly 
from the next 10 or 20. 

559
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,360
Yeah. 
Was it the same people like did 

560
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:11,480
you get to know the testers? 
100% I, I mean, I should know 

561
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,560
his name, but I recall he came 
down from Mount Tambourine. 

562
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,400
And the reason I remember Mount 
Tambourine was his bag that had 

563
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,200
all of the vials and everything 
in it. 

564
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,560
And the can't really explain how
it was like there were these 

565
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,640
foam containers and everything 
is marked and ticked off. 

566
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,200
So when you open the containers,
there's a seal on it. 

567
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760
You break the seal and there's a
process you go through to make 

568
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,720
sure everything's, you know, in 
the right order. 

569
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,880
When you seal it back up, you 
put your name and you know, it's

570
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,240
all this stuff. 
But he always had red dirt on 

571
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,880
his bag because up at tambourine
you've got that real nutrient 

572
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,600
red dirt. 
And I reckon he must have kept 

573
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,200
the stuff down under his house 
or something and always would 

574
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,640
have red dirt on it. 
And I was like, mate, I 

575
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,920
remember. 
From Tambo and I, and I 

576
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,080
apologise if there's people 
running along listening to this 

577
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,080
going. 
Liam move on. 

578
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,200
There's other things to talk 
about, but I'm fascinated by 

579
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,720
this because this is not 
something I'll ever have to 

580
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,480
experience. 
What's the vibe like between you

581
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,400
both or between the three of 
you? 

582
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,000
Like is that is it a hey, 
Courtney, how are you? 

583
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,400
How you going? 
Yeah, come on in. 

584
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,120
Come on in, guys. 
Well, I mean you. 

585
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,240
I suppose it depends on who you 
are. 

586
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,720
I mean, I was always relatively 
nice, offer a drink and 

587
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,600
whatever, but there's been times
they've sat, I've watched TV for

588
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,560
like a few hours with the drug 
testers next to me, like in as a

589
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,280
family and, you know, my wife 
would sit there too and. 

590
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,080
And you're just watching a show 
or a movie? 

591
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,920
Yeah, more than you. 
You just go on with your with 

592
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,720
your night or whatever you're 
doing, and the reality is once 

593
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,920
they cite you and inform you 
you're being tested, yeah, they 

594
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,080
can't let you out of their 
sight. 

595
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,640
Also, even if you said like. 
I I've just got to go upstairs 

596
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,560
to check. 
No, he, he, he will come walk up

597
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,600
with me to the the wardrobe. 
It's like a tagger in AFL. 

598
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,920
Once he's once they've tagged 
you. 

599
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,120
So if you're at a race and after
the race, you know, and 

600
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,200
triathlon's a unique sport, I 
suppose because you're out there

601
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,920
in the more like cycling where 
you can move around or if you 

602
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,440
want to warm down, which you 
often do after a race, you you 

603
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,080
could run, but you'd have to run
within eyesight of the tester 

604
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,720
watching you. 
And if you run off, I mean, 

605
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,600
effectively that's. 
Guilty, right? 

606
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,560
He's not gonna catch her, is it?
Well, he's not gonna catch her. 

607
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,240
But it's also you're guilty, 
right? 

608
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,440
So you'd warm down just 100 
metre stretch or if you're on a 

609
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,680
bike in, you know, circles or 
whatever it was. 

610
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,000
But yeah, man. 
Well just sit down and watch TV 

611
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,360
with you. 
This. 

612
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,400
Was 15 years. 
I probably went through, I 

613
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,400
reckon 3 different main, main, 
main person in that time and 

614
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,960
yeah, we got to know them. 
And so you, they walk in in one 

615
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,800
one hand, you're like, you just 
want it. 

616
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,240
Yeah, but. 
They're doing their job right, 

617
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,960
right? 
They're doing their job. 

618
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,880
This is so fascinating. 
And I mean, yeah, it's. 

619
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,240
I mean, Lisa would've worked 
through this. 

620
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,400
Lisa would be more than me. 
Lisa. 

621
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,240
Used to joke about the fact that
she can't remember like she got 

622
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,640
over not paying privately when 
she was 14 because that's when 

623
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,560
she made the Olympic team and 
that was the end of it. 

624
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,840
You know, from a testing 
perspective, she was tested so 

625
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,520
regularly ever since so but it, 
no, it's, it's fascinating. 

626
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,760
I don't even know how we got 
here. 

627
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,840
I literally got oh, we're 
talking about Wellness and IV 

628
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,320
and all the rest of it anyway. 
Well. 

629
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,080
Yeah. 
That's, that's, that's, that's 

630
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,000
as honest as I can be about drug
testing. 

631
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,040
It is nothing private about it, 
put it that way. 

632
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,360
Great chat, love that, enjoy it.
Now do I need to defend myself 

633
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,880
to the Brooks lovers out there? 
You do, you do. 

634
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,920
You're getting called out hard 
and I'm coming, I'm coming. 

635
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,360
Well, I'm getting called out 
too, Liam, because I was, I was 

636
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,960
also having a bit of a dig at 
we're not a dig at Brooks. 

637
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,720
We just didn't see this coming. 
But I now understand why Brooks 

638
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:47,360
is the number 3 rated shoe on 
strap, why they're a lovers of 

639
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,040
Brooks, and not just because I 
like the Bran Brooks. 

640
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,480
They we're getting people 
defending Brooks like they're 

641
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,080
going to battle, like they're in
Braveheart and they're running 

642
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,640
off on the field to battle. 
I did not see this coming. 

643
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:03,440
I did not see this level of a 
because I thought people who who

644
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,680
wore Brooks were too old and 
wouldn't be able to work social 

645
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,720
media or listen to podcasts. 
I'm doubling down. 

646
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,080
I was even running, I was down 
at the spit running this morning

647
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,560
and I saw one of the guys with 
like a really high stacked 

648
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,560
Brooks on. 
And yeah, so now it's a little 

649
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,600
bit like, you know, when you buy
a new car and you didn't think 

650
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,680
anyone drives that brand, You've
seen them everywhere. 

651
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,520
I'm seeing Brooks everywhere now
but this high. 

652
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,840
So this hyper and GTS too. 
So this is right. 

653
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,440
We've been talking about the 
ghost a little bit and that's 

654
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,560
what we're being copping a Flack
on because people love their 

655
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,920
ghosts. 
Yes, I actually I'll take that 

656
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,120
back. 
Brooks lovers. 

657
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,800
Brooks lovers love their ghosts.
Yeah, but this hyper and GS 

658
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,800
twos, they're like their race 
shoe yes, and I've had a few so 

659
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,640
not just one more than a like a 
bit of a a few writing about 

660
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,800
this one as being their race 
shoe that they love too. 

661
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,040
So. 
I I look love it if you want. 

662
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,880
I still think they're boring 
shoes. 

663
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,600
Yeah. 
And I'm and I'm staying. 

664
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,080
I'm staying on that. 
I'm with you. 

665
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,840
I don't, I don't think anyone's 
sending. 

666
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,640
I don't think Brooks is going to
be sending us a pair of Brooks 

667
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,720
to try anytime soon, however. 
However, if you think about it, 

668
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,360
that is the best thing they 
could do, Liam. 

669
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,920
Be boring. 
No, send you a pair of shoes to 

670
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,840
try and change your mind. 
I mean, that's the only thing 

671
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,760
that's going to change your. 
Mind you. 

672
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,720
Want to challenge me? 
Send them my way, Brooksy. 

673
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,840
Look, yeah, look, I can't love 
every shoe. 

674
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,640
I can't. 
There's too many shoes. 

675
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,960
There's too many shoes to love. 
There's too many shoes to try. 

676
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,120
There's. 
Too many shoes to try. 

677
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,560
There's too many shoes to love. 
I don't. 

678
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,600
Want Zacconi so and I got I got 
checked on the pronunciation. 

679
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,840
How's it meant to be pronounced?
Sock Unni. 

680
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,920
Sokoni. 
Sok, UH, Sokuni. 

681
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,880
Sokuni. 
Oh, Sokoni. 

682
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,920
I don't know if that's right 
either, but that we did get 

683
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,200
corrected. 
I've always said Saucony. 

684
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,800
I'm just saying Saucony. 
Maybe it's an Aussie slang of 

685
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,040
saying so where's? 
Saucony from If it's from Japan,

686
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,760
I'll start saying Saucony. 
I don't know, I'm going to guess

687
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,720
it's an American. 
Shake again Anyway, people I've 

688
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,200
I've never run in Saucony's 
either, so I can't I. 

689
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,400
Haven't. 
Like I said to you, I raced, I I

690
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,120
had a deal like a race. 
I was paid to race for them for 

691
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,280
a year. 
Brooks. 

692
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,560
He never came coming though. 
Never never got a knock on the 

693
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,360
door from Brooks, but there's a 
few I'm just thinking about the 

694
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,120
one who I have race for. 
So, and this when I say race for

695
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:29,639
like being paid, pretty much 
paid or yeah, pretty much paid. 

696
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,760
First one ever was Reebok. 
Cool. 

697
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,159
So Brad Bevan, I was managed by 
the same, yeah, the Croc. 

698
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,120
In the early days I was managed 
by the same company who managed 

699
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,120
the Croc. 
So I got on. 

700
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:44,040
I got a little bit of a handball
on that one as a junior. 

701
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,120
Not really in running shoes 
these days much, are they? 

702
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,480
Not really, they sort. 
Of pivoted towards CrossFit in a

703
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,679
very big. 
One, but I think really early 

704
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,239
days you had Nike and Reebok 
with a big two. 

705
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,880
That's it, yeah. 
Absolutely so. 

706
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,960
And Reebok. 
The Reeboks I had originally. 

707
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,680
All I can remember with my early
shoes, and this is going back to

708
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,120
my more teenage days, they 
always were like a fluro orange 

709
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,440
or fluro pink. 
So you never could just say I 

710
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,800
just want black or I just want 
white. 

711
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,040
That will always fluro. 
So that was Reebok. 

712
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,320
I think the next mob I went into
was Zulconi. 

713
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,280
Then I ran in Nike for a a long,
long time and I wasn't paid by 

714
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,000
Nike. 
I'll be completely upfront, but 

715
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,960
I was getting given Nike and I 
that's probably why when I talk 

716
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,560
about now about shoes, I I do 
have this like they supported me

717
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,080
for a long time through a period
where I wasn't being necessarily

718
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,840
being paid by shoes, but I'm 
wearing Nikes and still to this 

719
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,440
day, a lot of the different 
brands, like if I was to go off 

720
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,880
and run a, you know, grab a 
shoe, if it wasn't a Solomon, 

721
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,680
yeah, next pick at this stage, I
would probably go and grab a 

722
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,200
Nike. 
I've just jumped onto Reebok's 

723
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,800
running shoe page. 
Yeah. 

724
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,320
And it's very interesting 
because they don't really look 

725
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,000
like they're competing much in 
the running shoe market, but 

726
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,400
they do have this thing called a
Floatzig, which seemingly it 

727
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,720
almost looks like a the on style
of shoe that's. 

728
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,440
Kind of is a running shoe 
because they've got, I mean, 

729
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,960
they've got a lot of vintage. 
Yeah. 

730
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,720
I was looking at a vintage pair 
of Reebok. 

731
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:13,680
The other day that's. 
I'm going to turn it from a 

732
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,320
distance. 
Yeah. 

733
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,000
Oh, OK. 
Yeah. 

734
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,560
So it's that kind of waffle 
sole. 

735
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:22,840
Yeah, it kind of it kind of like
the way it would the sole would 

736
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,720
split with with actually. 
Models almost like a vertebrae 

737
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:30,000
on a back on the spine is the 
way it would peel off the road. 

738
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,960
But yeah, I don't know. 
How that would go these days. 

739
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,720
But yeah, so then Reebok, Nike 
and then I went through a long 

740
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:37,880
period, obviously the New 
Balance Japan, that was the the 

741
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,680
main thing and then Solomon. 
So I have run in a fair well a 

742
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:43,760
reasonable range of. 
Shoes. 

743
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,760
You've run into heap of shoes. 
And of course, what were the 

744
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,960
things with the weird? 
Oh, Newton in there. 

745
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,600
Newton. 
I didn't even think of that. 

746
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,760
That was when Newton first came 
to Australia. 

747
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,840
So that was off off the back of 
New Balance. 

748
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,080
Like I didn't even remember that
the. 

749
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,320
Courtney Shoe Museum's going to 
open one of these days. 

750
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,720
I can't wait to explore the. 
But yeah, so Brooks. 

751
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,400
Yeah, OK. 
Hey, love you, Brooks. 

752
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,920
I'm happy to have a 
conversation. 

753
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,960
If you're hey, if you're a 
Brooks runner and you see me run

754
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,080
past, you can flip me the bird. 
That's fine. 

755
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,120
That's OK. 
That's OK. 

756
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,240
I'm on board with it. 
New York Marathon? 

757
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,720
OH this is wild. 
So they got 200,000 applicants, 

758
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:23,680
which means only two to 3% of 
the people who wanted to run 

759
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:29,160
actually got accepted. 
Are you across the running 

760
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,240
standards? 
Are you across the quality 

761
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:31,840
times? 
No. 

762
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,600
Give, give. 
I've gotta give us a lay down. 

763
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,200
So I've got a mate, Ben who is 
qualified. 

764
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,480
He's in, he's going, he'll be 
racing there this year. 

765
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,360
He. 
Lucky guy or well get tell me 

766
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,120
how it. 
Works well. 

767
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:52,240
He's he's in the 45 to 49 age 
group and he ran a 251 at Gold 

768
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:55,600
Coast last year. 
His qualifying time for his age 

769
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,120
group for New York was a 310 for
the 45 to 40 nines. 

770
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,440
He's well and truly qualified. 
He's he's in there comfortably. 

771
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,880
So these when you so let me 
understand when you apply, yes, 

772
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,360
your time matters. 
You submit a qualifying time. 

773
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,880
And then do they have like a bit
of a random draw? 

774
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,440
Yeah, and then it's it's a case 
of so I think, and this is 

775
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,440
probably the case with Boston as
well and these other marathons 

776
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,800
where it's hard to get in, they 
do take, they want it to be the 

777
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,800
best. 
You know, it's not a meritocr. 

778
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,320
Oh, sorry. 
It's not a everybody gets a 

779
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,600
turn, not participation medals. 
It's a meritocracy. 

780
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,160
You're there on merit. 
So I'm just, I'm actually, Ben's

781
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,520
told me the qualifying time for 
his age group was a 310. 

782
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,280
It's actually faster than that. 
It's a 305 for the 45 to 49 age 

783
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,120
group. 
It's a solid. 

784
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,040
That's a qualifying marathon on 
you'd be. 

785
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,600
Would you be in that one? 
Are you 4044? 

786
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,920
No. 
I'd be in that one. 

787
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,080
So you'd be in that one. 
For my age group in 40 to 44 my 

788
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:57,320
qualifying time is a 258 so and 
then the fastest. 

789
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,200
Well, you're on track. 
You need to you need to bring a 

790
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,240
few 2 minutes. 
Down the fastest 18 to 34 is the

791
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:07,040
fastest qualifying age bracket, 
and that is a 253. 

792
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,160
So essentially if you want to be
in New York and you're under the

793
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,520
age of 50, you need you need to 
be running a three sub three 

794
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,560
hour marathon. 
And I'm going to say with all of

795
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,160
those three times you just gave 
me, you need to be a marathoner.

796
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,520
Yeah, in the in the sense of 
you're all in on running a time.

797
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,160
Now you can get there. 
You can get there via a 

798
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,560
fundraising manner. 
So there is other ways into it, 

799
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,240
but if you want to enter and win
a spot on merit, it's time 

800
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:34,120
based. 
Now just to I. 

801
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,120
Haven't done my homework on this
but I'm sure if you continue to 

802
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,600
enter year after year after year
you. 

803
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,040
Probably increase your chances 
yeah, just quickly the other 

804
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,120
I'll just give you some of the 
the women's times as well 

805
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,480
because they are slightly 
different to the men's. 45 to 49

806
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:53,400
is a 338, OK, so it's a 
significant adjustment 40 to 44 

807
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:59,960
is a 3/26 marathon, 35 to 39 is 
a 3/15 marathon and 18 to 34 for

808
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:02,800
women is a 3/13 marathon. 
So. 

809
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,320
If you're a solid marathon 
runner for as a female you can 

810
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,080
you your chances are a lot high.
Interestingly enough, if you're 

811
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:16,080
at 80 plus male, your qualifying
time is you're going to run a 

812
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,040
sub five hour marathon. 
You're going to run a 455 what 

813
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,760
at the age of over 80. 
And if you're over 80 as a 

814
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,560
female, you got to break 635. 
So you're going to run under 6 

815
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,680
1/2 hours. 
Oh, there you go. 

816
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,200
New York. 
Have you got Asper? 

817
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,640
Have you run? 
You said you run a what? 

818
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:30,640
Major, do you? 
Run. 

819
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,160
You run London? 
I've run London, that's it. 

820
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,920
And I don't think I've actually 
ever run Sydney. 

821
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,320
Look, I'm a I'm a box checker 
runner. 

822
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,160
I'd love to run all the majors. 
I'd love to tick them all off 

823
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:45,400
inch. 
Does that drive you for the 

824
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,600
time? 
Is that like part of when you're

825
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,160
thinking, oh, I've got a goal 
time? 

826
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,800
I haven't thought about breaking
3 hours because I want to 

827
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:56,680
qualify for these other 
marathons. 

828
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,640
Sub three hours in my head is 
very much a mark that I just 

829
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,760
want to get under that mark. 
It's just a mark. 

830
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,160
Interestingly though, and I I'm 
annoyed at myself that it's I've

831
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,120
just remembered this. 
I saw a, a, an Instagram post 

832
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,000
during the week with a, an 
experienced trainer, an athlete 

833
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,240
talking about the idea of the, 
the value and the importance of 

834
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:23,840
a marathon being diminished by 
this running boom. 

835
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,400
And the idea that you see all 
these people signing up for 

836
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,320
multiple events throughout a 12 
month calendar window. 

837
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,920
They sign up for, you know, they
might run three different 

838
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,760
marathons, they might run five 
other events and their, their 

839
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,640
year becomes listed. 
And the his take on this was 

840
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:48,000
that if you are setting yourself
the target to run a marathon, 

841
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:53,320
part of it is about the pursuit 
of that event and the pursuit of

842
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,680
that singular moment. 
That one thing that you are 

843
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,480
training for and that you are 
identifying and you are spending

844
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,400
your six months leading up to. 
And you talked about the elites 

845
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,000
and that's they might race twice
a year. 

846
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,560
And the idea that because of 
popularity and running boom and 

847
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,760
all the rest of that, it's 
diminishing the achievement of a

848
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,000
marathon because everyone can 
kind of just not everyone, but a

849
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,720
lot of people just go out there 
and get through it. 

850
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,160
And does that make it any worth 
less? 

851
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,080
While we've we've talked about 
this, do you run a marathon or 

852
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:32,480
do you just make a marathon? 
Yeah, that's that's I do think 

853
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,200
there's two sides to this 
because there's there's a lot of

854
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,160
runners in that in not just 
marathons, in all of the runs 

855
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,040
that are in there for the 
completely different reason to 

856
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,280
try and run a time. 
Sure, You know, their goal is to

857
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,080
make a marathon. 
And there's nothing like I've 

858
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,000
got nothing wrong. 
I've got nothing wrong with that

859
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,640
at all to be applauded. 
But I do hear you, though, 

860
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,080
around because I saw this in 
triathlon. 

861
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,080
I'd. 
I'd been around long enough in 

862
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:08,000
triathlons to see this happen 
with Iron Man, because Iron Man,

863
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,960
when I began was this pinnacle 
of like, if you could race an 

864
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,960
Iron Man. 
Yeah, that was like there was a 

865
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,840
there was a train. 
You started at spring distance, 

866
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,200
you went to Olympic distance, 
you might crack 1/2 and then you

867
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,080
go to Iron Man. 
Now you just find people. 

868
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,360
Just go. 
I'm just ticking a night, man. 

869
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,280
I'm gonna do an Iron Man. 
I'm. 

870
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,000
Just ticking an Iron Man, you 
walk into the off. 

871
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,280
You work in an office block in 
Sydney, Melbourne. 

872
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,840
Wherever you walk into the 
office you used to walk in and 

873
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,960
go. 
I did an Iron Man the the whole 

874
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,080
I guarantee of half the office 
would turn around now. 

875
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,560
I did an Iron Man. 
Wow, half of the finance 

876
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,600
department over there didn't 
Iron Man this year. 

877
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,320
So what's the new Iron Man then?
What's the? 

878
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,520
New marathon the new marathon 
became this this idea of how far

879
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,240
can you run 100K trail run or 
100 and then the mile the miler,

880
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:04,440
sorry, 160 K the longer you 
could go it nearly like was that

881
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,000
was more merit and I've we've 
talked about this I've 

882
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,800
challenged before around so. 
What happens next? 

883
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,440
Because we can't just keep going
further. 

884
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,400
High rocks? 
I don't know, I don't know. 

885
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,280
I think it probably. 
Is no, but I think it is. 

886
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,920
It's like what? 
And again, I've got, there's 

887
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,400
nothing wrong with this. 
I mean, we sit here, talk, find,

888
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,680
trying to find things to talk 
about each week. 

889
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:34,640
You've got to find something if 
you're driven to do running or 

890
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,360
if you're driven to do events by
like wanting to be able to talk 

891
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,960
about what you're doing. 
You'll find something new you 

892
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,640
need. 
To find something new or need to

893
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,560
find up the ante each time, 
right? 

894
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,160
If you're not driven by time. 
And then what you'll, I reckon 

895
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,800
you find is where you find those
like whether it's the 10K, 

896
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,240
whether it's a, a certain 
triathlon, whether it's a, you 

897
00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:58,000
know, time trial on a, on a push
bike and someone's just trying 

898
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,600
to improve. 
Their goal is trying to improve 

899
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,240
first. 
My goal is trying to do as much 

900
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:05,440
as I possibly can experience. 
But what it's worth, I also want

901
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:10,120
to do an Iron Man just to take 
it off so I can see it with the 

902
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,280
finance guys. 
What, what, what, what I mean, 

903
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,480
what side of the fence are we 
talking about? 

904
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,720
Anyone listening? 
Like what side of the fence do 

905
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:19,240
you you sit on? 
Do you? 

906
00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:23,760
Are you driven to do what you're
doing by trying to improve your 

907
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,760
time? 
Or are you driven by? 

908
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,400
I'm a. 
Foot in both camps. 

909
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,240
More events, Longer events. 
I'm a foot in both camps because

910
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,160
I like, I'm really looking 
forward to this twelve week 

911
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,040
block challenge of, of getting 
myself and having a crack at a 

912
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,440
sub through a marathon. 
I've done a marathon. 

913
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,920
I know what it's like to finish 
one. 

914
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,840
I know what it's like to 
struggle through one. 

915
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,040
Yeah, because I have, but I 
always and so I still want to go

916
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,440
back because I want to challenge
myself time wise. 

917
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,720
But then, for example, when we 
go down to Konani for the 

918
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:59,560
Salomon Golden Trail race, I'm 
not trying to win this thing. 

919
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,160
I'm I've never done it before. 
I am running that for the 

920
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,720
experience. 
That's a new experience. 

921
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:05,200
I'm running that for the 
experience. 

922
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,000
Same thing when I take on an 
Iron Man and I will and I'd like

923
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,280
to do in the next couple of 
years. 

924
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,200
I'm not racing it for a time, 
although I will train with a 

925
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,560
time in mind. 
I'm racing that for the 

926
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,920
experience and if there becomes 
an opportunity to race it in a 

927
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,880
destination I'd like. 
To do that as well and. 

928
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,520
That's an added bonus. 
So I'm very much a pushing 

929
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:32,080
myself for PB at all times, but 
saying yes to experiences as 

930
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,920
well, yeah. 
Well, I'm, I'm firmly about 

931
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,200
experiences. 
Yeah. 

932
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,840
And interestingly, the distance 
doesn't really affect me at all 

933
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,240
in the sense of if the 
experience was right and it took

934
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,480
and it was a multi day event, 
yeah, I'd be all in. 

935
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,680
If the experience was right and 
it's a like a unique 5K event, 

936
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,320
I'm I, I would want to do it. 
So for me it's, well, at this 

937
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,520
stage at least. 
Yeah, it's all about like, 

938
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,120
what's new and. 
And that's because you've spent 

939
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:08,960
20 years plus chasing PBS and 
trying to be and time focused 

940
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,200
and. 
Time and I'm I'm not I'm I'm 

941
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:15,320
sitting here going I don't think
that's the right way to be I've 

942
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,000
reached a point where that is 
that for me yeah, but I still 

943
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,480
firmly sit on the idea of like 
I'd want to be improving times 

944
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,160
race yeah I want to race I would
want to race if I had you know 

945
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,880
if I was 100% could just eat 
sleep and and run. 

946
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,240
That was one of our great 
tangents by the way, we really 

947
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:33,840
raced off away on. 
Some stuff and we probably 

948
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,600
needed it today. 
We're a bit light on after the 

949
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,880
what's been going on this week. 
Yeah, it's but yeah, it's. 

950
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,960
But yeah, we've done well not to
be talking about cyclones and 

951
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,360
weather patterns and tropical 
lows. 

952
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,720
Yeah, well, what about your run?
Like we're talking about 

953
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:48,960
cyclones and running, yeah. 
Let's talk about run weeks. 

954
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,760
Did you run? 
I ran once. 

955
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Once. 
Sorry, a lie. 

956
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,920
I ran. 
I ran twice. 

957
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,720
I think for last week. 
If you're talking about total 

958
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:01,600
kilometres run, I think I ran 
about 2425 KS. 

959
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,400
So I think I got a couple of 
runs in before the weather 

960
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,080
really turned and it became what
it was. 

961
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:15,160
I did 112K run on the Saturday 
which was one of the heavy days.

962
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,360
OK, Saturday. 
Sunday. 

963
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,720
Yep. 
I ran. 

964
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:25,120
I ran 2 KS to meet Whippet and 
we ran a 4K at 4K back. 

965
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,080
We ran 4 KS into the teeth of 
the wind along the Ocean way and

966
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,120
we ran 4 KS back. 
The 4K is into the teeth of the 

967
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,760
wind. 
We were running 5 minute pace. 

968
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,360
The 4K is running back with the 
wind as a tailwind without 

969
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,800
changing our effort at all. 
Was 430 pace, so 30 seconds. 

970
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,760
32nd win per K. 
She was amazing. 

971
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,280
Should have went for APB but. 
That's what my brother in law 

972
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,800
and I was saying were like 
today's the day go start at 

973
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,680
Berlinga and run down to Krumman
and get yourself a a sub 18 

974
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,360
minute 5. 
Ki saw, I saw Jordo who's part 

975
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,640
of Gold Coast Run Co, but he 
also does the Journeyman podcast

976
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,320
with Tim Vincent and that on 
they went out to try and do a 

977
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,800
1K. 
Oh, they did. 

978
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,840
PB and they go. 
It was in his PEI, think he ran 

979
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,640
245 back with the wind. 
That's not his PB though, so he 

980
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,040
can run quicker. 
But they were having a bit of 

981
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,040
fun with the idea of, you know, 
going. 

982
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,800
Did you see anyone else running 
at that? 

983
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,120
Lots, really. 
Lots. 

984
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:26,880
I was, and the irony was, you 
know, I'd been on radio 

985
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,440
encouraging people not to go out
and do stuff. 

986
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,800
That was my next question. 
And then? 

987
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,840
Very much was I'm going to go 
out and do stuff, but it was 

988
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,600
funny because we turned around 
as we as we turned around to go 

989
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,920
home, we got to a point on the 
ocean way and both of us kind of

990
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,880
went that tree wasn't there on 
the way out. 

991
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,640
One of the trees had come down 
across the ocean way as we were 

992
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,240
running. 
So there's probably reason 

993
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:52,520
enough not to be out in the. 
Bed but I I thought about that 

994
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,360
around the idea. 
When you're running. 

995
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:55,880
Yeah, around, did you? 
Get out in the bed. 

996
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,400
I did get out in the bed, but I 
thought about this idea of like,

997
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,680
should I be going out and 
running? 

998
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,200
Like I'm comfortable to run in 
some pretty heavy stuff like the

999
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,760
rain and the wind doesn't bother
me. 

1000
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,480
Trees bother me, sure. 
Probably don't want one of them 

1001
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,320
falling on you, but I was in 
that dilemma of like should I do

1002
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,360
the right thing and stay at 
home? 

1003
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,120
But I really want to run first 
day. 

1004
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,920
So it would have been Friday, I 
think. 

1005
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,160
Well, the first day there was 
like the winds and the rain was 

1006
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,040
told to stay inside. 
I got on my treadmill, I was 

1007
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,880
doing some K reps on this on the
treadmill and then it started to

1008
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,960
go haywire. 
Like the elevation was like 

1009
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,560
going up to 25 and then down. 
And I think what was happening 

1010
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,480
was this. 
My sweat was getting in behind 

1011
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:42,440
the control panel anyway, right?
Me just being silly, ripped it 

1012
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,000
up to try and look at what was 
going on. 

1013
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,880
And of course, yeah, ripped all 
the cables out. 

1014
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:46,600
Sure. 
Of course you have. 

1015
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,320
First aid, no tremble for the 
rest of the rest of the week. 

1016
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,160
So then I got OK, perfect. 
I can't get out yet. 

1017
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,720
Running. 
I'm gonna get on. 

1018
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,520
I'm gonna get my bike out and 
get on the ergo. 

1019
00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:00,520
So I did 2 days of really good 
strength ergo work on the bike. 

1020
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,280
Haven't ridden a bike like I 
said for the mountain bike, 

1021
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,520
haven't ridden on an ergo for 
God knows, can't even remember. 

1022
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:11,240
Yeah, I've I've done myself. 
I don't feel real handy running 

1023
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:13,200
at the moment. 
What do you what have you done? 

1024
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:19,080
I've aggravated my hip flexors. 
Let's say that I don't. 

1025
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,560
Think there's anything majorly 
wrong? 

1026
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,960
But Oh no. 
Another good piece of It's not 

1027
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,320
advice, but it's like what I 
just did. 

1028
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,640
That is so silly. 
It's like we always say. 

1029
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:30,880
Don't. 
Why is it silly? 

1030
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,120
Well. 
Don't do anything new or what 

1031
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,120
your body's not used to. 
Right. 

1032
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,560
Start slow. 
I went back and I thought, you 

1033
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,120
know, I was used to just like we
talk about training Diaries and 

1034
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,720
all that. 
I've got like certain ergo 

1035
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:46,480
sessions that I'm used to doing.
So the first day I was doing 

1036
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,440
some 3 minute reps just to to 
break it up in small chain ring,

1037
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,520
but in a decent enough gear and 
I thought well that will warm me

1038
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:54,640
up. 
I'm not going too hard. 

1039
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,560
The next day I got in there to 
do it. 

1040
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,760
I did descending gears in like a
strength effort workout where I 

1041
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:06,480
went 10 minutes in big chain 
ring Top Gear and then 9 minutes

1042
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:09,680
in the second gear down. 
So a little bit harder, 8 

1043
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,520
minutes in the next gear down 
till I'm literally in, you know,

1044
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:17,240
5313 or whatever just grinding. 
OK. 

1045
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,920
I didn't pull up great from it. 
Right. 

1046
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,200
No. 
And then just to top that off 

1047
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,440
the next day, so the, the we 
don't have the wind hit like the

1048
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,840
cyclone hit or went close enough
to the coast and crossed over 

1049
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,040
Morden Bay or whatever, Then the
next night was the night where 

1050
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:36,360
the, you know, we're getting the
flood. 

1051
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,320
Watch Yeah, the Flood. 
Watch and the the wind really 

1052
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,800
came in strong and that no, this
was this was Saturday night. 

1053
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,360
The wind was coming in really 
strong. 

1054
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,400
So Sunday morning I went to the 
window out the back here and it 

1055
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,560
was blowing a Gale. 
And I thought, yeah, probably 

1056
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,920
not the time to run. 
But Doctor Ben and my brother 

1057
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,200
said, no, we're going. 
I did run along the beach. 

1058
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,400
I was out there for two hours. 
The best spot, running down to 

1059
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,600
the beach, all the corridors, 
you know, where the wind funnels

1060
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,600
through the through the streets 
was a nightmare. 

1061
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Once we got on the beach, it 

1062
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,120
was. 
It's fine it. 

1063
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,960
Was actually quite fine, you 
know, and at that stage the 

1064
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,240
danger had kind of. 
Yeah. 

1065
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:15,720
And the other thing, the other 
thing that I, the reason I did 

1066
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:19,120
go for kind of one other run 
during it all was and the thing 

1067
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,880
that I, I think I did 6 1/2 K or
something like that. 

1068
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,280
I I couldn't help, I couldn't 
stop looking up at the power 

1069
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,480
lines. 
Yeah. 

1070
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,320
And I said, what are you doing? 
Like really, what are you doing?

1071
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,760
What are you doing? 
And so since then off the back 

1072
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,320
of the weekend on the Monday 
just gone, I had a really, 

1073
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:42,440
really nice 15K run, which I 
throw in kind of some 2K efforts

1074
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,120
trying to run at that required 
sub three hour marathon pace 

1075
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,480
just to just to change the run 
up and stop it being a Monday 

1076
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,520
and five minute K pace run sort 
of thing. 

1077
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,760
But would you like because I've 
started a list, Courtney OK, 

1078
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,400
I've started a list in this 
mind, do not eat before running 

1079
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,000
list, right? 
These are things that you should

1080
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,480
not. 
Eat these are things that and 

1081
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,720
this is me, OK, This is I'm not 
telling anybody what to eat or 

1082
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:11,400
drink or consume during after. 
Learn by experience. 

1083
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,200
Before running this is my. 
I'm going to update this as I go

1084
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,880
as I add things to it. 
OK, this is my do not eat before

1085
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,920
running list and there's only 
three things on at the moment, 

1086
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,280
but I'm going to continue to 
add, first of all, just me, 

1087
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,560
Macca's sausage name with 
muffins. 

1088
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:31,160
There's a spice in that, in the 
sausage. 

1089
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,960
You go sausage and egg. 
Oh yeah, what do you go? 

1090
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,040
Oh bacon and oh. 
Get. 

1091
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,680
Out I don't want. 
Well, maybe I've learnt from 

1092
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,560
experienced sausage. 
Yeah. 

1093
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,600
Oh, you're the BAE. 
I can't remember the last time I

1094
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,080
had a bacon. 
Bacon and egg for. 

1095
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,600
Sure, jump in the comments 
people. 

1096
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:46,920
Bacon, egg be sausage. 
And egg. 

1097
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,760
No, no cheer, You think every 
day. 

1098
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,680
Oh wow OK no I'm a sausage and 
egg guy. 

1099
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,680
I had one before I run a while 
back and I can have a distinct 

1100
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,720
memory of the IT repeating on me
about 3 KS into this. 

1101
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:02,760
I can understand that that's. 
Some I do not. 

1102
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,080
Probably sausage in general. 
There you go. 

1103
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,760
If you had a like, you know you 
fried up a. 

1104
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,880
You know, even though the 
Nippers BBQ. 

1105
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,320
Yep, Yep, sure. 
The next thing on the list is 

1106
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,680
the. 
This is from the night before. 

1107
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,600
OK so this like stays in the gut
for 2012 hours or something? 

1108
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,160
The Zambrero burrito? 
Really. 

1109
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,640
Yeah, no, I can handle. 
Burritos. 

1110
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:27,880
It's on my list. 
See, And this is the thing. 

1111
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,080
This is why it's my. 
Did you get like, it was a spicy

1112
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,240
pork? 
You got to get more, you know, 

1113
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:33,520
we need more information like 
just, OK. 

1114
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:39,280
I got I got a chicken burrito. 
Yep, with all the a few tremont 

1115
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,560
not jalapenos. 
So none of there was none of 

1116
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,880
that spice stuff in there. 
I do go the Chipotle sauce, but 

1117
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,000
that's it. 
And Nah, it's off. 

1118
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,640
It's off the off the menu. 
They were big like I'm I'm fine 

1119
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,440
with burritos, but they're 
always, they're a solid. 

1120
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,080
Pair. 
Like if you actually because 

1121
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,880
this is like the not the small 
one like a regular. 

1122
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,840
Size A regular size. 
Yeah, it's, but it's on. 

1123
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,440
Line. 
You get it from Taco Bell, where

1124
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,280
G by G or wherever, they're all 
like it's got A. 

1125
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,880
There's a lot in it, good 
weight. 

1126
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,680
So that's on my list. 
And the latest item that's added

1127
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,280
OK as a result of this most 
recent run is the Humble Apple. 

1128
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,200
An apple. 
OK, Yeah. 

1129
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,800
Just a It's an apple acidic. 
It's the. 

1130
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,720
Fibre. 
It's the fibre combined with 

1131
00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:26,400
water. 
It's a it's, it's a runner's 

1132
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,960
colonic for me. 
I wouldn't have. 

1133
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,840
I wouldn't have put the other 
two. 

1134
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,480
I understand then the apple. 
No race race is like if I if I 

1135
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,640
combine, it's like remember, 
remember at high school when 

1136
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,680
your chemistry teacher do that 
thing where they made the the 

1137
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,520
flask like bubble over like a 
volcano? 

1138
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:51,400
Yeah, you take water apple and 
me running around, it's a recipe

1139
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,240
for a poo jogger incident. 
So apples are on my list. 

1140
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,320
They're out. 
Can't eat them before runs. 

1141
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,520
Bananas still there. 
Bananas are fine. 

1142
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,360
The overnight oats everything 
aren't that great. 

1143
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,760
But I've those three things are 
officially on my do not eat 

1144
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,640
before running list. 
Yeah, there you go. 

1145
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,400
Well, there you go. 
I'm just trying to as you go, 

1146
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,240
you're. 
Trying to think of stuff. 

1147
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,880
I'm trying to think what 
wouldn't I eat before I'm I 

1148
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,920
thought my guts is pretty good 
on most things I do. 

1149
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,800
When you mentioned the burrito, 
that's where I went with this. 

1150
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,880
Like the the hotter, like 
something that you feel like a 

1151
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,640
pesto. 
Oh yeah. 

1152
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,640
Like if I had something like if 
I had a pesto pasta and then 

1153
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,520
went to try to run, I would feel
that come up. 

1154
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,280
So it's not the food itself. 
I'd feel it's whatever the spice

1155
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,200
or whatever the. 
Yeah, you know the acidity 

1156
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,080
level. 
Whatever the extra ingredient is

1157
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,200
there, that's strong. 
See, I'm also not a coffee 

1158
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,800
drinker before running. 
Oh really? 

1159
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,640
Yeah, that's coffee races 
through me too. 

1160
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:47,040
And now everyone like I'm gonna,
I'm gonna put 95% of people out 

1161
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,960
there are gonna go you, Liam, 
It's the magic pill. 

1162
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,440
Really. 
If you need to go to the toilet 

1163
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,640
before you go, running a 
consistent morning coffee does 

1164
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,160
the job. 
But how long? 

1165
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,240
Like I need a time frame. 
Well, I need I'm like the bomb 

1166
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:04,720
here. 
I don't want a week's later. 

1167
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,920
I want I want information. 
Straight information. 

1168
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,440
Well, that's a question we can 
ask, but I'm I'm talking that 

1169
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,480
coffee goes in within 20 
minutes. 20 minutes. 

1170
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:21,040
Even quicker, but I think. 
You needed the coffee when the 

1171
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,480
testers used to turn up at your 
door. 

1172
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,760
You shouldn't have been drinking
coffee. 

1173
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,360
Well, I don't need to give them 
a stool sample mate. 

1174
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,360
We're not talking about. 
I don't think they'd really be 

1175
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,600
appreciating in this. 
Can you imagine get that back 

1176
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,080
to? 
Them it would have happened for 

1177
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,960
sure. 
Can you imagine, you know when 

1178
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:42,160
you're when you're really busted
and you're you know where? 

1179
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,560
I'm going with this. 
Hey, let's. 

1180
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,760
Not like the drug to just sit 
there on it. 

1181
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,200
Anyway, that was my that's my 
week. 

1182
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,480
That's my list of things I can't
eat before running. 

1183
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:57,280
So you're you're, you're 
running. 

1184
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:58,800
So your hip. 
I'm a bit concerned about your 

1185
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,520
hip flexors though. 
I'm. 

1186
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,280
I'm a little bit concerned 
because what I was down at the 

1187
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,600
spit talk about the spit running
this morning. 

1188
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,400
We did some fart like usual 
Tuesday fart like down there and

1189
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,680
there were some trees. 
We went to do what was 

1190
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,840
obsession, 30 minutes of one 
minute on one minute float or 

1191
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,000
jog or whatever, trees down over
the path, all over the place. 

1192
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,280
We're dodging, which is fine. 
And then suddenly there was a 

1193
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,560
road or like it said, Rd closed,
but we're actually on the trail.

1194
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,640
Yeah, We went straight past the 
sign and then realised about 400

1195
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,040
metres later there was like a, a
lake, yeah, of water there. 

1196
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,560
So we just ran back and forth. 
But yeah, I wasn't, I was not 

1197
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,200
comfortable. 
Like I'm not injured, but I 

1198
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,920
wasn't comfortable at all. 
And I'm just hoping it even 

1199
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,760
before we're sitting here. 
And I was like, oh, nearly 

1200
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,200
cramped in the in the hamstring.
OK. 

1201
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:49,280
But it's just so, like we said, 
I did something at an intensity 

1202
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,920
that I'm not used to and haven't
done for a long time. 

1203
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,720
Of course the response was gonna
be you're gonna get sore, you're

1204
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,000
gonna hurt yourself, whatever it
is. 

1205
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,200
Yeah, yeah. 
Now it's on the run sheet. 

1206
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,880
But I can't believe you're 
bringing this back because I 

1207
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,240
thought we'd we'd killed this 
off. 

1208
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,840
We had killed it off, but the 
WTF mentions I I some came 

1209
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,880
across my emails. 
Some people were saying came 

1210
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,160
across my email. 
I said well let's run through 

1211
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:16,760
them quick. 
The first one is this is from 

1212
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,600
Teeton Valley in the US. 
It's literally a ski jump race. 

1213
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,120
So it's a time ski jump race. 
They're being pulled by horses. 

1214
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,920
Ski jaw. 
It's what it's called. 

1215
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,320
Is it called ski Ski jaw? 
The Teeton Valley Ski jaw 

1216
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,760
you're. 
Telling me you're not a fan of 

1217
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,600
this but I I I like. 
This one? 

1218
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,160
Oh, you do like this? 
No, no, I like this one. 

1219
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,760
I love this one we'll talk about
and he is getting like the 

1220
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,520
horses on it and he's getting 
flung over those jumps like no 

1221
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,480
tomorrow. 
We'll share them on the 

1222
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,640
Instagram Stories, but that, 
yeah, that one always. 

1223
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,840
But you can see they've got a 
it's kind of like water skiing 

1224
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,440
in a sense. 
You know how and if you if you 

1225
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,800
have a slalom water ski, you've 
got to go round the poles as you

1226
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,080
in slam skiing. 
But what you notice if you watch

1227
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,600
this video is he's actually 
collecting rings along the way. 

1228
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,480
It's almost a cross between 
slalom skiing and Mario. 

1229
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:03,280
There's. 
Something. 

1230
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,920
Yeah, there's a lot going on, as
you did. 

1231
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,680
You see Benny Hennett's. 
Oh yeah, with with his kids 

1232
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,360
playing in the storm waters. 
Literally on a 4 by 4. 

1233
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,720
Yeah, so they're getting pulled.
This, this reminded me of that. 

1234
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:14,920
He's getting pulled and he's 
full. 

1235
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,360
I'd love to do this. 
I'd love to have a crack at it. 

1236
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,280
I'm on board. 
The second one, now this gets 

1237
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,480
into these world records that 
I'm like what is going on? 

1238
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,040
So the world record for making a
peanut butter sandwich is a 

1239
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:33,600
fella young guy doing it, but 
it's a piss take of someone lady

1240
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,360
beating him. 
So he's literally doing 

1241
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,960
Obviously there must be rules to
making the quickest sandwich you

1242
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,040
can make by buttering it and 
doing all that. 

1243
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,040
She's got the peanut butter in 
her mouth, drops it off a 

1244
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:47,560
sandwich. 
Wax it together. 

1245
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:56,600
I mean, but this this Ryan Kelso
shared this I that makes you I 

1246
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:01,080
sick. 
But I'm like, what do you need 

1247
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,680
to what needs to be going on in 
your life to go? 

1248
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,600
I am going to make a world 
record out of this making a 

1249
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,400
peanut butter sandwich. 
I'm going to jump ahead too, 

1250
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,880
because when you talk about why 
the hell world records are being

1251
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,760
made, Yeah, we've got the world 
marathon record in a wind 

1252
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,680
turbine. 
Now you and I disagree on this 

1253
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,920
because you actually like this. 
I think this is so dumb. 

1254
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:30,400
I think this is so dumb, right? 
I think in a marathon around the

1255
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:35,640
observation deck of a wind 
turbine, right, the time's, the 

1256
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:40,160
time's not that impressive. 
It's 4 hours and 21 minutes and 

1257
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,720
you like you could do that on 
the ground. 

1258
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,120
Yeah, but you weren't impressed 
by Nike putting up their runners

1259
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,840
in the London Eye. 
What's the difference? 

1260
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,640
That's a promo video. 
That's something cool. 

1261
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,280
That's a marketing. 
This is boring. 

1262
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,400
I am not that much of A. 
This is just a typical case of 

1263
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,680
making up. 
Crap, I do have a question. 

1264
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:58,680
For the sake of doing it, did 
he? 

1265
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,240
Did this person go? 
Was it the whole way around? 

1266
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:02,720
One way? 
I I. 

1267
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:04,960
Didn't go that much in depth, I 
just. 

1268
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,040
Saw because what I would say is 
if he is not, if he's changed 

1269
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,000
direction, that's cheating. 
If you're committing to running 

1270
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,840
it in a winter OK, and you're 
going around one way, fine do. 

1271
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,320
You do you reckon they like if 
it's smooth and it'd be shaken? 

1272
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,720
Easy as all hell. 
Yeah, so Michael Richards shared

1273
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,960
that one. 
But off the back I'd seen 

1274
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,080
earlier in the week when we 
weren't ever going to bring 

1275
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,680
these up again. 
Yeah, a guy was doing a world 

1276
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,800
record marathon around a bloody 
roundabout. 

1277
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,400
I know we're giving, we're 
giving fuel to the fire here, 

1278
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,680
but they this, this should be 
outlawed. 

1279
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,760
I'm going to set the world 
record for a marathon in a phone

1280
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,320
box. 
Choking up and choking up and 

1281
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:47,680
down and. 
It's never been done before. 

1282
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,800
You know what I mean? 
Off the back of you know, you 

1283
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,880
see on the shows the work 
treadmills. 

1284
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,880
Yeah. 
Marathon in a Zoom meeting. 

1285
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,800
World record. 
Do you have to be in a zoom 

1286
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,760
meeting the whole time? 
Got to be in a meeting the whole

1287
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,880
time, so you can't really be. 
That's a long meeting for me. 

1288
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,160
We're. 
Just we're just, we're talking 

1289
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,400
absolute crap at the moment, but
the one, the one that is good is

1290
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,400
good is a sport and it's called 
Taser ball. 

1291
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,880
How's this playing soccer with 
an oversized ball? 

1292
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,840
It kind of reminds me more of a 
video game, but they've got 

1293
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,840
Taser, they've got proper Tasers
on them. 

1294
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,680
They're tasering each other as 
they're tasing soccer, no? 

1295
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:28,720
You ever been electrocute? 
I've. 

1296
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,800
Had I've had like a, you know, a
little ZAP, like a little ZAP, 

1297
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,080
but I wouldn't say I've been 
electrocuted where I've. 

1298
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,040
Biggest job I've ever had was 
when I touched an electric fence

1299
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,040
but OK. 
Yeah. 

1300
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,840
I mean similar to that I've 
been, you know, is that. 

1301
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,360
But no this this looks. 
I don't ever want to get 

1302
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:47,720
tasered, Liam. 
This looks terrifying but also 

1303
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:52,040
really good fun. 
I I don't I would want the Taser

1304
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,720
lowered like I wouldn't want the
bots. 

1305
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,960
You talk about anxiety, anxiety 
going into sport. 

1306
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,680
Can you imagine walking out to 
play a sport like whatever sport

1307
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,640
it is and knowing everyone, 
including yourself, has got a 

1308
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,080
Taser on you and you're going to
get. 

1309
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,720
Have you seen there's another 
video similar to this where it's

1310
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:13,360
people playing soccer, futsal, 
indoor soccer, and they're all 

1311
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,000
wearing a almost an ankle 
bracelet type thing around their

1312
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,000
thighs. 
So it's like a a strap around 

1313
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,320
their thigh which is connected 
to a electric shock. 

1314
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,040
And there's people just sitting 
on a bench on the sidelines 

1315
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,840
zapping people at random. 
It's one of the funniest movie. 

1316
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,240
It's one of the funniest clips 
on YouTube. 

1317
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,960
OK. 
So now you now you've actually 

1318
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,520
brought this whole segment to a 
point, right? 

1319
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,560
What? 
Then would be interesting we're 

1320
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,520
talking about world records or 
whatever in running, yeah, 

1321
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,160
everyone with a zapping dog 
collar on or something. 

1322
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,920
Running and the crowd have 
control. 

1323
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:53,120
No, a, a track race, a track 
race with zappable, no. 

1324
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,640
And the the crowd can control. 
So if you're winning by too far,

1325
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:02,520
they just start giving giving 
you a crack so you can't run as 

1326
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:07,160
quick and leaving the the and 
evening it out with electricity.

1327
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,680
Do you know what my idea was 
just then? 

1328
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:13,480
My idea was that it was you have
everyone has the collars on and 

1329
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,160
the ZAP kicks in after a certain
time. 

1330
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,680
So it's like. 
God, so it's the time thing you 

1331
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,720
want to do a PB? 
If you want to run a PB, 

1332
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,120
otherwise you're going to get 
zapped. 

1333
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,560
I anyone can do it that that can
be self self managed. 

1334
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,560
But you know what? 
I've realised what we're doing, 

1335
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,640
you and I, right now. 
We've got nothing to talk about.

1336
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,160
We. 
Are designing Squid Games. 

1337
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:41,120
We are designing Squid Games, so
let's move on before we keep 

1338
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,480
designing other TV shows that 
already exist. 

1339
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,320
So talk. 
About Ryan Kelso sent one of 

1340
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,000
them and he also asked us we'd 
he'd love to hear from both of 

1341
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,720
us about our top three spills. 
Now I don't have 3, but I'm 

1342
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,120
going to just what's your top 
have you? 

1343
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,040
Can you recall falling running? 
Because a lot of people would 

1344
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,160
have went through this at some 
point. 

1345
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,200
Can you what's your worst fall 
I've had, I've had haven't had a

1346
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,360
lot of really intense falls. 
I've had a couple of trips here 

1347
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,120
and there running trails just, 
you know, classic clipping of 

1348
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,400
the toe sort of stuff down onto 
your hands. 

1349
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,240
Grazers there 1 memorable one 
that does come to mind though. 

1350
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,520
I was running around Palm Beach 
near my joint not that long ago 

1351
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:20,760
after rain hit and 
absentmindedly I've just, it was

1352
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:26,480
like like a bike rider taking a 
corner and I've just I've 

1353
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,600
planted my left foot as I'm 
trying to take a left turn, but 

1354
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,600
I've planted it straight onto a 
slicks bit of the footpath. 

1355
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:39,160
Full down, skin off knee, shin, 
thigh, shoulder. 

1356
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:40,840
It was. 
It was a speedy. 

1357
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,960
Slide. 
No, no. 

1358
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,080
And it but it was that real up 
and down. 

1359
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,560
There's nothing worse running 
urban. 

1360
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,960
When you you do something, trip 
over the gutter or even worse, 

1361
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,240
you, you know, you're 
jaywalking, running across 

1362
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,080
jaywalking and then something 
happens when it rains. 

1363
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,760
I don't like my suburb obviously
down Mermaid Way and they've got

1364
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:04,880
all the old tiled driveways. 
Oh yeah, You run from people who

1365
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,640
are listening will definitely be
across this one and you're 

1366
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,120
running and you're literally 
trying to pick up the pace or 

1367
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,960
whatever. 
You're on the good concrete and 

1368
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,320
then you go to that next 
surface. 

1369
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,080
It's like ice, the ice skate for
three metres and then you're 

1370
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,000
back on the next surface and 
then the next surface and then. 

1371
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,640
But even the painted lines on 
roads when it's wet, like I 

1372
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,800
avoid them because I find them 
slickers maybe. 

1373
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,040
What's your biggest film? 
I mean, you probably had some 

1374
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,279
decent ones off a bike, didn't 
you? 

1375
01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:29,880
Oh. 
Yeah, but let's keep it to 

1376
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:34,520
running. 
Running probably my probably the

1377
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,880
worst, the one that's hurt the 
worst running was that one when 

1378
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:42,560
we began the podcast and we, I 
was injured already and then I 

1379
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,600
tripped on a rock going down the
little chute in the ring and it 

1380
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,680
was just such a small little 
like caught the tow and just the

1381
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,560
way they, well, when I say a 
shoot, it was a single track 

1382
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,080
that went downhill and it just 
had roots and rocks. 

1383
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:00,640
And I just literally, you know, 
you know, you see those cartoons

1384
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,080
or you see those where someone 
falls and then they just, you 

1385
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,080
just keep going down. 
It was like that. 

1386
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:07,200
It's like I was just ragged 
across the rocks. 

1387
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,319
I'm just trying to think of some
other ones where I've had some, 

1388
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,600
I mean, just fallen on rocks and
trail running in general. 

1389
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,439
I've had spills. 
But yeah, that would, that's the

1390
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,520
one I can remember that really. 
Why do you want us to bring up 

1391
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,040
with times we've hurt ourselves,
Ryan? 

1392
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,160
I don't like that. 
That's all right, right. 

1393
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:25,439
Sammy way, friend of the show, 
he's sent us through a message. 

1394
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,240
You said, you know, I really 
enjoyed the last step, gents. 

1395
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,560
By the way, to everybody who 
sent the messages in about 

1396
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,600
bingeing the the EPS keep on 
sending them through. 

1397
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,600
I'm loving hearing about these 
people that have discovered the 

1398
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,200
show jump back to the start and 
listening all the way through. 

1399
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,439
It's great to hear. 
Sammy says enjoy the last EP 

1400
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:41,200
gents. 
Keep it going. 

1401
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,000
Particularly like the branded 
shoe chat. 

1402
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,240
Really funny and on point. 
He's updated his running goal so

1403
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,720
Sam sent in his running goals. 
Previously he said I wanted to 

1404
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,479
get to 4 minute case for 10K 
working on a sustainable heart 

1405
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,880
rate. 
But seven weeks into that his 

1406
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,280
knee has started to play up and 
he's gone and got some medical 

1407
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:58,920
advice. 
He's now gone and seen a few 

1408
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,720
different professionals 
including a surgeon and got 

1409
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:01,720
scans. 
Prognosis. 

1410
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,640
Great to hear. 
Yeah, he's handling it the right

1411
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:04,520
way. 
Prognosis. 

1412
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,080
Both sides of his knee have 
lateral meniscus tears. 

1413
01:10:07,480 --> 01:10:10,720
Chronic degeneration likely from
user playing footy causing him 

1414
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,040
pain, but it's not bad enough to
warrant surgery. 

1415
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:19,520
But this actually puts him in a 
predicament because yeah, puts 

1416
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,320
him in a predicament. 
Sorry, that running 

1417
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,880
aggressively, being on hill 
stairs or a pace would then 

1418
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,680
require anti inflammatories. 
So he's only. 

1419
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,200
So basically he's got knees that
are hurting if he's doing too 

1420
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,000
much running. 
He's only 39 and he wanted to 

1421
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,120
ask but he feels like it's a 
pretty off way to run. 

1422
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,200
If you're having to take anti 
inflammatories every time you 

1423
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,760
want to go for a run, you'd like
to hear our points of view on it

1424
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,040
and Courtney if you are willing 
to share a few video. 

1425
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,000
Taking any pain meds for long 
periods of time when you were 

1426
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,520
obviously running 
professionally, or even 

1427
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:48,480
afterwards. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1428
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:51,280
So I already got back to Sam 
directly because this one like 

1429
01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:55,280
pain. 
So the first answer of direct to

1430
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,800
me was have I ever had long term
pain meds? 

1431
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,160
No, no, you've never. 
Had to take anything to 

1432
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,880
maintain. 
They each to their own on how 

1433
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,120
they manage things. 
And I have known people who, you

1434
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,840
know, in, in not major pain 
medication, like just Nurofen or

1435
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,440
something and they'd pop in 
Nurofen like it's, you know, 

1436
01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:17,680
that's how they continue to be 
able to manage in sport For me, 

1437
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,080
no, I've never been able to do 
that because if it was that long

1438
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,040
to be able to manage it for me, 
in that case, there's a bigger 

1439
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:27,080
problem. 
Look, this sounds like it is a 

1440
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,440
larger problem. 
So my advice that I should write

1441
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:35,360
back to Sam was simple, like at 
some point, you know, and it's 

1442
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,760
not for me to tell him what to 
do or not to do either, but 

1443
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:38,800
he's. 
Gone and see medical. 

1444
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,000
Professional 100% but if it was 
me in this same situation, I 

1445
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,000
want to still be able to run. 
So I'd manage it by doing the 

1446
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,480
running I can do. 
And there might be a case that I

1447
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:51,720
just. 
You'll have to avoid hills. 

1448
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,880
Yeah. 
You'll you may have to. 

1449
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,320
You know, for me, running is 
enough of a, you know, helps me 

1450
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,480
enough and I still want to be 
able to do it that and look, 

1451
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,920
there may come a time when you 
can't run and that would be then

1452
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,640
a different decision. 
But at least for the moment, I'd

1453
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,360
run what I can run without the 
pain. 

1454
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,680
Avoid the runs that will 
aggravate. 

1455
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,280
I would avoid the runs that 
can't because long term pain 

1456
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,280
management. 
Just a run doesn't sound for, 

1457
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:21,520
you know, for me, I wouldn't be 
inclined to want to be doing 

1458
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,800
that. 
But it's not a good situation, 

1459
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,320
right? 
No, no, it's, it's, it's 

1460
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:28,160
interesting. 
I know. 

1461
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,440
Obviously I know. 
What do you reckon? 

1462
01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:31,120
What? 
Would you, would you be 

1463
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:32,960
interesting? 
I had an interesting moment 

1464
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:37,120
probably 2 1/2 years ago, not 
long after I moved up the Gold 

1465
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:43,480
Coast, where I was getting quite
acute pain on the inside lower 

1466
01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:47,760
section of my left knee. 
And I went and saw Kyle Weiss at

1467
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,640
the Gold Coast physio. 
And I ended up then going and 

1468
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,720
seeing Liam at the other clinic 
as well. 

1469
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:59,120
And basically Kyle was saying 
that the IT had to do with my 

1470
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,520
leg strength and, and, and not 
having enough strength and it 

1471
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,680
was causing, that's what was 
causing the pulling and the 

1472
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,760
aching on the knee. 
Now there was a period for about

1473
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:13,280
6 months there where it was 
really painful to run that that 

1474
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:17,360
thing would warm up and 
eventually I would stop noticing

1475
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,440
it during a run. 
But then there were times where 

1476
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:22,080
it wouldn't warm up and I would 
feel the entire run. 

1477
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,560
And I was in a similar situation
to Sam where I started taking 

1478
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,080
some anti inflammatories and 
putting some. 

1479
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,040
What's the gel called? 
Oh, there's. 

1480
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,240
A one of the anti inflammatory 
gels on it, I was because it was

1481
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:40,560
really bothering me. 
And I think interestingly, I 

1482
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,200
injured my calf not long 
afterwards. 

1483
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,320
And you know, I don't know the 
bio mechanics at all, but maybe 

1484
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,280
they were related, I don't know.
But as a result of injuring my 

1485
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,040
calf, it basically forced me to 
deload. 

1486
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,760
I had to stop running and then I
had to focus on strength 

1487
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:57,960
training around that sort of 
stuff. 

1488
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,840
And since that injury, I've 
prioritised my strength training

1489
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,520
around my legs as much as I 
possibly can. 

1490
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,320
I'm not as diligent as I should 
be, but I'm much more diligent 

1491
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:12,520
than I have ever been. 
That knee injury, I can still 

1492
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,800
occasionally feel. 
I can occasionally feel. 

1493
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,440
It's not, I wouldn't say it's an
injury where it's I ever go ow, 

1494
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,920
but it's awareness. 
I have awareness of that spot on

1495
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:25,480
my knee. 
Even as I sit here right now, I 

1496
01:14:25,480 --> 01:14:28,240
can kind of twist it a bit and 
go, Yep, that's where there's 

1497
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,600
awareness there. 
But that injury since then, 

1498
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,480
since that de loading period and
strengthening focus has never 

1499
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:35,600
been a problem. 
Yeah. 

1500
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:40,360
I mean, if, if, if it's a 
strength based issue or 

1501
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,360
something that's fixable. 
I mean, in Sam's case here, it's

1502
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,480
actually the doctors have told 
him it's, it's, it's chronic and

1503
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:50,040
you know, it's, it's an injury 
that isn't going to heal by 

1504
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,480
doing stuff. 
So that's a different situation.

1505
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:55,400
And like like I said, if it was 
me, I just want to be able to do

1506
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,680
what I can do to keep running. 
So then getting sorry you asked 

1507
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,320
me the question, what would I do
if I was in Sam's position? 

1508
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,160
Hard to say. 
Hypothetically, I'd like to 

1509
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,520
think I'd keep running because I
love running, but I probably 

1510
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,720
wouldn't. 
I'd probably go and try and find

1511
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,840
another cardio based exercise 
that I could do that isn't 

1512
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,440
causing me causing the pain. 
I don't know what I know. 

1513
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,080
It's not the, it's not the 
answers you want to hear when 

1514
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,880
you love running, is it? 
No, or I'd go and get really 

1515
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:26,840
good at golf. 
Like take a cart and get really 

1516
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,280
good at golf. 
Although twisting of your knees 

1517
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,440
probably not great for golf. 
We've asked this before, what 

1518
01:15:30,440 --> 01:15:33,520
What is your? 
What's your next like? 

1519
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,840
What's your out sport like? 
Obviously at the moment running 

1520
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,960
is the main thing you do. 
Take running away What? 

1521
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,240
What's the sport? 
You you participate your golf. 

1522
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,840
When the season's right for me, 
I plan on getting very good at 

1523
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:52,560
golfer as best as I I plan on 
exploring what my ceiling is as 

1524
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,560
a golfer. 
Right, might have to come. 

1525
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,320
And I mean, I'm, I'm not a big 
fan of golf, but if you're 

1526
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,080
playing golf, yeah, yeah, see, I
think golf with mates. 

1527
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,920
Oh yeah, it's probably a bit of 
a different scenario. 

1528
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,320
Yeah, I probably don't have the 
required etiquette to play with 

1529
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:07,720
people other than my mates, 
really. 

1530
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,960
But yeah, golf's great fun. 
I was devastated. 

1531
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,400
I was meant to play in the WPGA,
the Women's Australian 

1532
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,440
Championship pro and before 
sanctuary cod, before cycling. 

1533
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:18,400
Alfred turned up and ruined it 
for everybody. 

1534
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,280
Yeah, love golf. 
Great sport. 

1535
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,400
The one that, well, the sport I 
don't do now that I would go 

1536
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,960
back is surfing. 
That's the other one I I looked 

1537
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,400
at. 
What did you OK? 

1538
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,320
If people haven't seen the 
swells that came through before 

1539
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,680
Alfred hit, I think you're down 
to watch any of it. 

1540
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,840
No, I mean I saw the clips of. 
Course, yeah, I mean, it's going

1541
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,080
down and watching that live. 
Akira was, that was, that's 

1542
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,080
where. 
I love the idea of being able to

1543
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,080
surf that. 
I don't know if I've got the the

1544
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,320
ticket for it, though. 
To ever jump out in those 

1545
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,880
conditions, no matter how 
confident I was, yeah, that was 

1546
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,080
terrifying. 
That's where I'd go back. 

1547
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,680
That's the one thing that. 
I would go back to doing that. 

1548
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,200
I did as a kid, I suppose. 
But then at the same time I 

1549
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:00,600
wouldn't be able to leave the 
bike stuff. 

1550
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,760
Yeah, so like, but the sport 
that I don't get. 

1551
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,120
Time. 
To do, I suppose, is what I'm 

1552
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,040
saying. 
And if running was completely 

1553
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,400
taken out, gone, it would be. 
You'd be back. 

1554
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:10,320
I'd be back surfing. 
Yeah. 

1555
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:11,600
Yeah. 
Alright, Alright. 

1556
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,120
Well, hey, look. 
You might have thought we didn't

1557
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,840
have much to talk about that. 
As always, we get to this .01 

1558
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,000
thing. 
By the way, we did have a 

1559
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,880
suggestion come through and 
apologies for not having your 

1560
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,560
name on hand. 
Someone suggested that we start 

1561
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,160
a running group which goes for 
the duration of each episode. 

1562
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,080
OK in in what way? 
Like in that like that's. 

1563
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:29,440
Kind of you. 
You run for the. 

1564
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:31,640
Oh, you run. 
For the and and we balance, 

1565
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,160
yeah. 
Now my only issue there is like 

1566
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,320
that's not a running. 
Group you kind of unless you do 

1567
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,160
it on Strava only. 
I was like, you wouldn't want to

1568
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,200
run alongside someone and listen
at the same time, but you could 

1569
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:44,240
do a Strava run group where it's
like in the beginning we can 

1570
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,880
look at, yeah, creating a Strava
run group. 

1571
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,280
How long? 
'S today gone for for about. 

1572
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,160
An hour 15? 
Yes, you're doing an hour. 15 

1573
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:53,200
run. 
Yep. 

1574
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,520
Well everyone enjoy your runs. 
We've been out. 

1575
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,760
Running now now that now that, 
you know, that's bugging off 

1576
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,880
yeah, for those in the 
Southeast, hopefully if 

1577
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,040
everyone's like not too bad, you
know, some people would have 

1578
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,360
definitely got affected. 
So now we're thinking of you. 

1579
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,000
Before we finish up today, we 
are on the countdown to. 

1580
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:12,800
Salomon Golden Trail series 
Konani race. 

1581
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,480
We are we are on the countdown 
to this. 

1582
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:17,440
We got what 2 episodes left 
before we run this yes. 

1583
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,920
So make sure you you stick 
around and share and share this 

1584
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,520
with friends because we're 
counting down to this first trip

1585
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,120
away for the podcast. 
We're gonna be going down, 

1586
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,720
running the race and then doing 
a podcast with the first extra 

1587
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,840
episode. 
So we make sure you're you're 

1588
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,600
sharing. 
The love you get your friends 

1589
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,120
and family involved, if they 
love their trail series, we're 

1590
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,800
gonna be commenting on that. 
And we've got some other stuff 

1591
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,200
on the way. 
I might have some goodies 

1592
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,240
turning up from someone for us 
to try soon too. 

1593
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,080
Love presents. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1594
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:47,400
Alright, we'll see you next. 
Week. 

1595
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:48,160
See you next week.