1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,240 In the beginning, Episode 47, we are back. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,120 Courtney Atkinson, you are back. You've been on a hell of an 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,000 advent. It's been a bit of an adventure 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,760 in between EPS for you and I. Yeah, we've both been on our 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,720 respective adventures. I had, I had a bit of mine 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,800 wasn't really a running adventure, but I still got to, I 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,160 got to run in, in the, in the morning, in the sunrise. 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,360 But I know I was about as far, well, at least in Queensland, 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,760 unless you were going to go up to the Cape. 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,480 I'm, I was about as far away remote as you can get. 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:31,480 So I flew from Brisbane to Mount Isa and then drove another 4 12 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,600 hours north. Yeah, that's geez, that's a long 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,480 way away. So nearly out to the NT border 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,600 and there's a place out there at Lawnhill National Park which is 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,160 like an Oasis in the desert. So I was out there filming some 16 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:47,720 stuff for Tourism QLD. Been about five years since I'd 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,480 gone through there, maybe even a bit longer. 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,920 I never gets old. You can send me out there any 19 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:52,840 day. Not a job. 20 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Before you tell us about your run out there, we have got an 21 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,760 announcement for people straight off the top today. 22 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:05,120 We we very exciting that you and I are headed South for the 23 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,720 Sydney Marathon. Not to run, but we have, we've 24 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,320 got on board with the the legends at AG One and we are 25 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:17,600 gonna be heading down on the Friday to do a a live podcast. 26 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:18,840 How exciting, huh? This. 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,880 Is this is this is the first one of these we've done now? 28 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,480 Where is it? Ice? 29 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,400 Ice so. Now, the way this works is 30 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,000 'cause if there are people listening to this who are 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,080 running Sydney Marathon at the end of the month and wanna come 32 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,920 along, what's happening is on the Friday. 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,960 Obviously the marathon's happening on the Sunday. 34 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:39,560 On the Friday beforehand, AG1 is having a shake out run down at 35 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:44,840 Bondi and then we will be at Bondi Icebergs dining room doing 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:50,520 a live episode of the pod with we got some a nutritionist from 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,720 AG1 who's going to be talking to us a bit about the product, but 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,080 also with the best marathoner in this country, Andy Buchanan, 39 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,600 right my mate? I'll tell you what, that's 40 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:01,240 that's gonna be an exciting morning. 41 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,120 Hey, so you've people. A bit of pressure on us, a 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,160 little bit of pressure, a bit of pressure on you. 43 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,560 Liam, the performer, was coming along as a cider. 44 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,639 Please now we it's gonna be we're gonna be doing a first 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,920 live episode of in the beginning podcast there thanks to AG one. 46 00:02:14,920 --> 00:02:18,280 Now it's not an open invite thing, but there is an 47 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,320 opportunity for listening to the pod to get involved. 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:26,040 Make sure you are following the drink AG 1 AU. 49 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,080 Yep, the Instagram account. Make sure it's the Australian 50 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,600 account. Make sure it's the Australian 51 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,920 account, the AG 1 AU Instagram account because they are going 52 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:38,360 to be opening up some select seats, some select slots for the 53 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,880 the the podcast and the shake out run on Friday morning. 54 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,240 So go on, jump and follow that account, Drink AG 1 AU and 55 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:49,400 details will come out as to how you can get one of those spots 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,720 for the shake out run and for that live episode of In the 57 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,440 Beginning. But if you can't get there and 58 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,600 you don't get a chance to be there for the live podcast, that 59 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,920 will then drop on the Saturday morning. 60 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:01,080 Yep, we'll roll it out so you'll hear what happens. 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,320 Regardless, and and on our little trip down to Sydney, 62 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,040 we're actually we're trying to we're looking into we're looking 63 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,000 to stop talking about but I promises see you. 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,200 I'm not promising anything. You you don't like me teasing 65 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,120 things? No, in case they don't come off. 66 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,560 Whereas I feel like if I tease things, we have to make them. 67 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,240 Happen. It hasn't worked yet. 68 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,720 Although I was having a conversation this morning about 69 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,280 Mike Shelley, yes, and asking and Mike in yeah, and I didn't 70 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,960 realise how he doesn't do podcasts. 71 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,320 'Cause he's, well, he doesn't have to, he's Mark Shelley. 72 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:33,960 Yeah, but he doesn't. I didn't. 73 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,840 A few people said to me he doesn't do podcast. 74 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,880 How did you get him on? I said, well, I did run with him 75 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,360 for 10 years. Probably owed me a thing or two. 76 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,440 But anyway, yeah, beautiful. Thank you to AG One for giving 77 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,160 us the opportunity to come down to me a part of the Sydney 78 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,320 Marathon in its first year as a major. 79 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,880 Yep, it's gonna be a lot of fun. And obviously for all the In the 80 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,320 Beginning family, we'll be able to share that podcast with Andy 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,040 with you on that Saturday, which is August 30, August 30th, which 82 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,480 is my birthday. Oh, double, double whammy. 83 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,920 There you go. Now talk to me about where 84 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,320 you've been. Tell me a bit more about you've 85 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,440 just given us a rough explanation, but what were you? 86 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,560 What did you see? What is this gorge place? 87 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,040 You showed me some incredible photos before. 88 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,440 Well, we'll throw up a photo or two if you're watching on, on 89 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,839 the Spotify video as well. But it's, it's like I said, it's 90 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,560 an Oasis in the desert. It, the big floods 2 years ago 91 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,320 up in the, you know, the territory in the Gulf absolutely 92 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,920 flatten the area. So what was, you know, once a 93 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,200 big gorge obviously just got so much water through there, not 94 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,400 just in the gorge, across the whole landscape. 95 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,360 It it changed it. So it's only the national park's 96 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,080 only just reopened and it's going to be open in stages. 97 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,800 And we were just up there getting some, getting some pics, 98 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,240 getting some video and, and hopefully showing people that, 99 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,760 you know, if you're out travelling that way, it's a long 100 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,120 way. But if you're on a road trip up 101 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,440 on the Savannah Way or anything like that, it's a place you've 102 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,520 got to pull in to check out. And at the same time, I didn't 103 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,080 get to go, but the Mount Oiso Rodeo was on at the same. 104 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,760 Oh, was it really? Yeah, like so. 105 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,200 When you go somewhere like that, you said you went for a run. 106 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,240 What run did you do? Yeah, so like we're we're up 107 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,680 doing, you know, my, I'm actually working up there and be 108 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,520 getting out in the morning at sunrise for photos and video and 109 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,960 all that type of stuff and paddling up the gorge in kayaks 110 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,640 to the, you know, obviously showing the adventure. 111 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,840 It is out there, but I'm always like looking for a window. 112 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,520 So I got out there was like roads are straight out there and 113 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,920 they do it. So literally ran out of where it 114 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,720 was staying and just went half an hour one way and except for 115 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,000 one corner, it was just a dead stray white gravel road. 116 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:41,640 Now you go, but I no cars, no anybody in the middle of 117 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,720 nowhere. You love that you don't get 118 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,800 better than that. You love that you don't get 119 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,400 better than that. And then the next morning I did 120 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,280 jump up before we had to head back and got out before the sun 121 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:54,920 rose and just had a quick and I was up on kind of more the 122 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,160 National Park Road and just had a run along there in the dark 123 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,760 to. Yeah, that was magic, man. 124 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,040 I believe. Look, I always said, you know, 125 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,800 my my getting outdoors, like really outdoors. 126 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,840 Yeah, is what still excites me and it's crazy like all those 127 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:12,960 days I did triathlon for years, my whole life. 128 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,280 I was like, we were so Rd focused. 129 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:18,040 So you know when I was riding bikes it was always Rd focused 130 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,600 bikes. Like we got out in the valleys 131 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,400 and nice places around the cities. 132 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,800 But I never really got off road or went out on these adventures 133 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,360 till I finished triathlon. Yeah. 134 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,640 And mate, the world then just opened up. 135 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,120 So is my OK is if I get any opportunity, I'll always jump 136 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:32,400 out? There. 137 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,280 Do you, do you think that you were always preconditioned and 138 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:38,680 predisposed to to liking the trails? 139 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,800 Or do you think being, as you say, so many years as a 140 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,280 triathlete, restricted to roads and running and that sort of 141 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:46,960 stuff, it made you, you know, it converted you? 142 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,280 Like, I'm so sick of this. Nah, I I reckon 'cause I loved 143 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,240 like cross country as a kid was my favourite, like way better 144 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,960 than running track or any or road or anything I loved. 145 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,120 And even with cross country, like like people around Brisbane 146 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,360 and Queensland who you know around my school time will 147 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,960 remember when a course had like water cross, you know, like 148 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,040 water crossings. There was this course down at 149 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,440 Kedron, people in the area or remember. 150 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,000 So like they always did the state championships for at 151 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,520 Kedron and it's literally grass fields. 152 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,960 It's not much of A cross country course except you had to go 153 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,240 through Kedron Brook a few times and there'd always be water. 154 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,480 So you had about 3 water crossings and everyone would be 155 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,320 like my you know, most people like shoes are wear that was 156 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,760 it's an annoyance, but you I was always like, let's hope it's up 157 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,120 to your ways. Yeah, I I wanted more. 158 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,520 So yes, the answer to the question is I always wanted more 159 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,920 adventure. I probably was always suited to 160 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,160 being more off road but my bread and butter was on Rd. 161 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,400 Can you just quickly talking about river crossing, water 162 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,400 crossings, Yeah. How do you because there'll be 163 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,600 try runners listening to it. How do you how do you tackle 164 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,120 them? But like as in like from a 165 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,560 safety perspective or from like because. 166 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,400 Or like when when you know not to go. 167 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,520 Through Let's say you are going up to. 168 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,080 You're out running a trail for the very first time and suddenly 169 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,600 you happen upon a water crossing. 170 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Yep, you've got no idea how deep it is, but like, and I'm not 171 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,360 expecting you to be an Outback survivalist here, but what? 172 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,800 How would you approach? It's a it's a good guess most of 173 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,840 the time, yeah. And I mean, like, you know, you 174 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,280 know, generally, although remember that story I was 175 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,080 telling you about in Nerang that day? 176 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,240 I took the group out and me and Lindsay Laurie jumped in and I 177 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,280 lost my footing 'cause I couldn't see the bottom and I 178 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,880 got swept down and grabbed and hold and that was in the ring. 179 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,240 I mean, like it's just up there. It's in three foot of water. 180 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,000 You know, it's not like it's a big Outback crossing or 181 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,600 something. But the other one that on the 182 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,600 Gold Coast at least, which is the one that I often go, oh, you 183 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,360 know, like when there's been a bit of rain right down the 184 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,720 bottom of the Twin. So not Twin Falls itself, but 185 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,920 down the bottom of the Wari circuit, there's a crossing 186 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,400 there that when there's a fair bit of water flowing and it's 187 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,680 got some big boulders, it's rocky, but there's like quite 188 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:00,800 deep holes in between. And if you lost your footing 189 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,560 there on a good day, he would give you a good sweep and, you 190 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:06,360 know, knock your head. So that's one we kind of 191 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,320 probably go, oh, you know, yeah, yeah. 192 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,520 But generally, mate, you just pop your finger in and hope. 193 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,760 I did have. I was drive so funny. 194 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,400 I was driving out when I was driving out of Mount Isa on the 195 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,280 weekend up to Lawnhill. We went on. 196 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,520 There's probably, you know, a good 160K of just dirt roads and 197 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,640 heading out to a place. It's a, I don't know, it's like 198 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,840 a World Heritage site with fossil dinosaur fossils called 199 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,560 Riversley. On the way out there. 200 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,240 There's a couple of crossings which are spring fed. 201 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,440 So there's always water in them. And I don't know whether they 202 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,040 get worse or better or how it works with the spring fed water 203 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,520 or where the rain water gets in there. 204 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,280 But they always do seem to be at like different heights. 205 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:51,080 So we drove through in a four wheel drive on the weekend. 206 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,600 I got to the first one went through, you know, no stress. 207 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,520 The second one we went through, I'm like no stress went just 208 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,640 started. And then about halfway across I 209 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,000 was like, oh, this is this is this is actually. 210 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,280 So I'm in a high like a, what was it AD Max Isuzu? 211 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,960 Yeah. And I'm like, I don't know the 212 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,960 clearance on this. But anyway, we're halfway 213 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,560 through now. Let's just keep going. 214 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:16,120 And that's pretty much how I treat running. 215 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,240 Yeah, nice. Yeah, Well, I'm excited because 216 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,000 you lover of adventure, Man of the trails and. 217 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,320 You had an. Adventure last week get to tell 218 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,880 you about a trail run that you haven't done yet. 219 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,280 No, well, not all. Have you done that? 220 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,920 Well, you the end of it. I have. 221 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,560 Oh yeah, yes. Well, OK, so I talked about this 222 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:44,040 on on last week's episode, the Gidjam Gul Gangi Walk. 223 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:50,000 So this is a newly officially opened three night 4 day hike. 224 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,640 Are you sure that was pronounced right The. 225 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,000 Gidgham Gulgangi Walk, Yeah, the Gidgham Gulgangi Walk. 226 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,280 So it's been opened up by the NSW National Parks or the state 227 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:06,160 parks as a as a four day hike. You pay to go and hike and 228 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,880 there's the campgrounds along the way. 229 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,800 You obviously hike in your, your, everything you need and 230 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,640 you take it all with you. But I went down there as I 231 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:20,360 mentioned on last week, except I met down there with Rosie and we 232 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:25,280 the goal was do it in a day. It's 42 KSI think it's about 233 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,800 1800 elevation or thereabouts. Yep, sounds about right. 234 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:35,560 And so you start out of Yukai, it's from from the Gold Coast. 235 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:37,520 Took us about an hour and a half to get down there. 236 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,320 It's a good mountain bike trails out of Yukai now. 237 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:44,240 OK, and so we parked and the the best, the one of my favourite 238 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,760 parts was literally we pulled up there because Rosie picked me up 239 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,160 at 4:30 to get down there. We were planning for a 6:00 240 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,280 start after we'd stopped off and had a coffee and everything. 241 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,880 We ended up getting hitting the trail by at about 6:30 in the 242 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,000 morning. But literally as we got there 243 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,560 there was a father and son about to start as well. 244 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,000 Like they they lived at the other end of the trail and their 245 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,640 their mum, their wife had dropped them off there and they 246 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,200 were having a photo in front of the sign to start the same thing 247 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,360 with. Ted's on back. 248 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,240 Yeah, they were going to camp. No, no, no, they were. 249 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,880 They were planning on. They were planning, I think, he 250 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,760 said. The young fellow whose name was 251 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,720 Patrick and dad's name was Andrew. 252 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,720 The sun was is preparing for. I can't remember what it is, but 253 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,760 it's like a 30 day hike. Oh yeah, like 700 KS or. 254 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,320 Something so they were proper hike. 255 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,360 But they were planning on hiking, I think they said a 256 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,040 little bit of running, but mostly it's kind of back. 257 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,080 In the day. But yeah, same thing a day. 258 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,440 So it was it. Dave and I were so excited 259 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,560 because we're like, because we were both. 260 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,680 I in particular was really nervous. 261 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,320 I have not run 42K's since last year's Gold Coast Marathon. 262 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:55,800 I certainly haven't run. I haven't run 42K's on the trail 263 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,840 since I did UTA 50. Three years ago, yeah, very 264 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,240 different. 40 it's 1K to the road. 265 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,320 Yeah, yeah. So I was nervous. 266 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:07,120 I didn't know how difficult this track was gonna be as I the 267 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,880 night before I was out there, I pulled the Salomon pack out from 268 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,960 Kanani and I was throwing everything in. 269 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,560 I even packed your, I've still got your emergency pack with the 270 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:17,680 gloves, Northern foil blanket. So that's any day. 271 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,800 So that's why you would you would not believe how much gear 272 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,760 will I lose? I'm actually chasing up Lindsay 273 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,880 Laurie being listening. He's still got all my all my all 274 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,680 I went. No, I the truth is sorry, I'll 275 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:32,640 cut you. No go. 276 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,640 But I went out to get my first aid kits to go on this trip on 277 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,360 the weekend and I didn't. Know it, and I was. 278 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,160 Like I haven't got my because I gave him all of the the sweep 279 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,960 runners from OH from race the Sun Red Bull races. 280 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,960 So I anyway, it was going to bed that night and getting up, I was 281 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,840 quite, I was actually a bit nervous and we got in the car 282 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,880 with Dave and we were both kind of, there was a little bit of 283 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,600 nervousness as we were talking about it. 284 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,480 But so to see this father and son, they're about to start the 285 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,080 whole thing as well. We're like awesome, Yeah, that's 286 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,280 great. Immediately, any sense of nerves 287 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,200 or dangerous. Like we're gonna go quicker 288 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,560 than. These guys, well, they and they 289 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:09,280 can pick us up and they started beforehand. 290 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,960 Did they have a lunch box? I don't know if they have lunch 291 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,800 box but they started before before us and we caught them up 292 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,400 after about 10K or so. But the first 10K really nice 293 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,680 and and probably the first 8K rather really nice and runnable. 294 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,120 Rainforest. Mostly single track, yeah. 295 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,280 Yeah, nicely. It's a lot of kind of you're 296 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,320 kind of running, if I felt like you ran mostly around almost the 297 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,120 rim of the range, sort of. It's Mount Jerusalem and the 298 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,720 Nightcap National. Park Beautiful. 299 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,840 So for a lot of that first ten, probably 20K, you're actually 300 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,720 you got mount warning to your right and amazing, you're 301 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,280 running right on that ridgeline and you're looking at oh, we've 302 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,080 got some incredible so. You have to run up to the Ridge. 303 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:57,680 So, and this is the thing, 10K through 20 Ki bonked, I bumped, 304 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,600 I got proper. I remember the feeling. 305 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,640 It's a, it's a for me, when my body goes through this, it's a 306 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,720 really, it's a cold sweat that sort of hits. 307 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,920 A bit of a shake and. Yeah, yeah, it's a little bit of 308 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,320 a shake. It's a real cold sweat. 309 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,840 It's a little bit of tingle and just power, power hiking like it 310 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,880 was just hands on knees and just leaning forward and just and 311 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,960 there's a lot of stairs. It bears for anybody out there 312 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,920 who's done UTA 50, a lot of similarities because there was 313 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,520 some just sections where you are just grinding upstairs. 314 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,880 Some good training around. It would it would be if you are 315 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,160 a, a Gold Coast or a New South Wales based northern NSW based 316 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,080 runner who's planning on doing UTA 50, go and run this track. 317 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:41,080 Perfect training and then so I at about 20 Ki was proper 318 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,080 cooked. Dave is running Rosie's running 319 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,360 UTI Kosciusko 100. So he was really experimenting 320 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,840 with his nutrition. So he brought a lot of stuff. 321 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,840 So he was kind of feeding me and was it fit? 322 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,360 Brought me back to he's running, really. 323 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,320 Well, has he been over and overseas with the kayaking 324 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,240 recently? Not with Battle Australia 325 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,120 anymore, but he is. He's running really well. 326 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:09,800 And then after 20 KS, we found we hit the fire trail and I got 327 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,360 my a bit more flat running, bit more downhill and I and I came 328 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,920 back to life as well. So but incredible running. 329 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,000 A lot of you saw some you kind of a lot of running a bit like 330 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,720 Springbrook. There was a lot of these switch 331 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,880 back sections as well, bit similar to Springbrook. 332 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,320 I felt like I was in there at times. 333 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,560 And then you did break out into some more open fire trail type 334 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,360 running as well, like you're getting up in Nerang. 335 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,960 So it it had. Parks had done a great job down 336 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,520 there. They've done an amazing thank 337 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,120 you. We were talking about that very 338 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,000 thing that the the slabs. Dave couldn't get over the fact 339 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,520 that he's like, how the hell has anyone got these massive slam 340 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,120 stone slabs in here? Like they it's an amazing feat 341 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,680 to actually carve out that track. 342 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:54,480 Great track, amazing experience. We did stuff up though and for 343 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,840 anybody that hasn't seen the real, I threw it up on the In 344 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:01,120 the Beginning podcast Instagram. When we got to Minion Falls, 345 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,960 which is the finish line of this trail, we were at 32 K and we'd 346 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,079 only done about 1200 elevation. We're like, how on earth did we 347 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:13,920 miss 10K? And we went back and had a look 348 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:20,319 at the map and day three of the hike you essentially cut in and 349 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:23,160 do kind of like a hairpin loop. Oh, they're throwing a little 350 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,240 bit of a extra legged dog legged. 351 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,880 Yeah, bit of a bit of A and and we just missed it. 352 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:31,480 We were on a fire trail and we just ran past the turn and so as 353 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,320 but so we get there, we're at Minion Falls and we've done 32 354 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,840 and I'm kind of thinking I'm I'm. 355 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:40,200 Bush had enough. And Dave is like, well, it says 356 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,400 it's 8.8 down to the bottom of Minion Falls and back. 357 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,160 Let's just do that and tack it on and get to 4. 358 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,080 And that that is the part I have done. 359 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,760 And that isn't an easy climb out. 360 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,200 It's that was brutal. And I want to have a guy and I 361 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,320 probably don't listen to the podcast, but I want to have a go 362 00:17:55,360 --> 00:18:00,600 at the old ducks who would as we started the rundown Minion Falls 363 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,760 to get to the bottom, we went past this group of old ducks who 364 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,560 had their walking sticks and clearly a bit of a hiking group. 365 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,120 And one of them, and this is the state I was in. 366 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,160 One of them said, don't worry, there's a coffee shop at the 367 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,760 bottom. I believed her Connie. 368 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,760 There I was a good three seconds of my brain where where I 369 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,680 honestly, my brain went, Oh, coffee shop. 370 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,560 That's amazing. That'll be so. 371 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,160 Oh my God, we're in the middle of nowhere. 372 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,000 Of course there's not going to be a coffee shop I believe there 373 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,280 that shows how cooked that was. But for anybody out there that 374 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,360 loves trail running, if you're if you're not a if you can't do 375 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:41,760 40 KS in a day. Well, we know you now do 30. 376 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,280 Camp it, you can do 30 if you cut the little section off just 377 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,880 incredible job. Mount Jerusalem National Park, 378 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,520 the nightcap National Park. I think it's wean wean state 379 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,240 conservation in the area as well. 380 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,320 You would love it. And and for for those 381 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,320 interested, for those playing along at home, it took us about 382 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,200 6 1/2 hours to do that 42. So Courtney, you'd probably 383 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,120 punch it out at about 5:00. So you reckon go out and back? 384 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,000 So, and this is your brain right 'cause Dave, Rosie said the same 385 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,840 thing at the end. He's like, so you reckon you go 386 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,120 out and back in a day. I'm like why? 387 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:15,840 Why are we talking about this? I can't concentrate. 388 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,520 There's some good. Point to point runs the other 389 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,400 one up in the the Scenic Rim Trail. 390 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,920 I reckon's another great 1 so. Well, there was the the Guzzler 391 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,400 was on not long ago, wasn't it? That was up in the Scenic Rim. 392 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,520 In the scenic room, Guzzle, I think. 393 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,000 Guzzle in Brisbane, Guzzling out the back of Brisbane. 394 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,920 I could be wrong. I lose track on everywhere. 395 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,680 We're not here when at least this I'm gonna get hate here 396 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,080 from the Brisbane Heights. All go but. 397 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,160 When I hear about a trail race out the back of Brisbane I just 398 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,160 like my MO. I just put the the old 399 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,040 headphones on and not listen because the terrain out the back 400 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,480 there is just always up and down fire roads and you're like, oh 401 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,200 geez. I mean, there's some single 402 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,600 tracks in there here and there. But like, I've never, if someone 403 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,200 knows if someone wants to tell me where I I haven't had a great 404 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,120 experience running out the out on the West side of Brisbane. 405 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:08,240 Yeah, you go out, go out to the scenic rim, of course, sure. 406 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,960 But actually, Brisbane trails themselves. 407 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,800 Yeah, but in short, incredible day out on the track. 408 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,280 I went with the Salomon Ultra Guides. 409 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,600 Oh, you did? Yeah, sure. 410 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,760 You're good. Great. 411 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:24,400 Perfect. Good choice. 412 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,960 Perfect. Choice for me for where my 413 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,960 running's at for that many hours on my feet and that sort of how. 414 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,440 Did they go on? Because you would've went over a 415 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,840 bit of slick rock here and there. 416 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,880 Yeah, a little. Bit there was a bit of wet, 417 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,440 there was a bit of did. The grip go all right. 418 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,080 Yeah, the grip was good. I that was, but we're talking 419 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,440 about river crossings and that sort of stuff. 420 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,160 We didn't have any water crossings as it were, but mud 421 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,400 running, That's the one thing I did have on on Rosie through 422 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,640 that thing. He was dance and Rosie's a 423 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,600 bigger fella. I was straight through. 424 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,680 I'm just like, you know how people kind of come to those 425 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,640 money, money to keep sodden sections and people try to dance 426 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,720 around the edges and I'm just like, we'll just run through the 427 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,800 middle. Generally, if you're going to 428 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,720 cop the first one, there's going to be more. 429 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,080 So just deal with it. Yeah. 430 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,520 Get in there. Yeah, just in there. 431 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,600 Just just go through it so. Get in there. 432 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,600 Get in there that. Trial I would highly recommend. 433 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,360 So you're on a high? You're on a high, Yeah. 434 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,240 Good. Running How? 435 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,640 How far did did you run other? Do any other running? 436 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,880 So I look that. Well, that wasn't. 437 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,880 Enough that made it 50 for the week, but since then and I and I 438 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,960 basically because in my head I did that on a Wednesday and I 439 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:31,000 thought I'll I'll can throw another run in and that really 440 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,080 I'll break get through 60 plus KS this week. 441 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,720 In the end I opted to rest because quite sore through the 442 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,720 quads and the hamstrings. After that run, I went and had a 443 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,400 massage actually at Riggs Recovery in Palm Beach after the 444 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,080 fact. And there was a little bit of 445 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,880 miscommunication between Hallie, who was doing the massage. 446 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,120 I was telling her about this trail and she thought I'd done 447 00:21:55,120 --> 00:22:00,040 it on the weekend before. And so she was going quite hard. 448 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,720 And then about 45 minutes in, I was telling her she was asking a 449 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,040 question about the trail and I and I said, Oh yeah, Wednesday 450 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,560 she said, wait, you went on Wednesday? 451 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:13,200 I said, yeah. She goes, Oh my gosh, I'm so 452 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,400 sorry. I thought this tightness and 453 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,760 soreness was like a week old. That's why I've been pushing so 454 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,240 hard. It's 48 hours old and I'm like, 455 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,920 no, it's OK, but still be good for you. 456 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,560 But that's great. And then the other thing that is 457 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,800 still, despite the fact I'm not running Racing News to try this 458 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,680 year, I'm still trying to build to that sub 40 minute 10K. 459 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:39,080 And the session I'm essentially prioritising is a speed session. 460 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,120 Because remember when we talked about this, I said how long do 461 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:42,520 you think it would take me to get back? 462 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,840 Your question was it depends how long you get up to speed or it 463 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,240 takes you to build speed. Yes. 464 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,400 I think the answer to that is it takes me a long time. 465 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:58,240 So I have been working on a 400 set, 20 minute warm up into 12 466 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,920 by 1 hundreds. OK, so it's 12 by 400. 467 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,400 Sorry. OK, 12 by 4. 468 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,960 Did you hear my OK? With like I the way you 469 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,960 responded meant I must have said something wrong. 470 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,960 I did not. 12 ones, 12 fours with a minute recovery in 471 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,240 between or minute walking essentially and then 5 minutes 472 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,360 cool down. OK, that's the set. 473 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:21,920 I've been doing Mondays right for the last I reckon 3-4 weeks. 474 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,040 I. Reckon because in the end, like 475 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,400 yes, the four hundreds, there's a purpose to them with the full 476 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,120 rest. But I my gut tells me still I'd 477 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,920 prefer to see you doing and I think it was, I think it was out 478 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,160 of Deke's book. It was a Pacohesi style session, 479 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,880 which was now I'm going to forget it, but I think it was 84 480 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,680 hundreds with a 200 float. But the float is actually quite 481 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,640 you. You keep it on now is that now, 482 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,800 have you? Seen four hundreds. 483 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,280 So if you said 86 hundreds, what's that in in? 484 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,760 Come on, I want to get this right 8. 604.8 cuts, yeah, OK, 485 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,800 so. The theory behind this session 486 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:07,080 is you run on it, you do it on a track, yeah, 402 hundred float. 487 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,760 And the float is, you know, you're still keeping your pace 488 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,840 through it, like you're rolling through what time you do for 489 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,080 that. 4.8 will be about equivalent of what you should be 490 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,960 aiming for your 5K. So it's a fart leg session that 491 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,040 you're overpace, underpace, overpace, underpace. 492 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,600 But it we always said it was a guide as to what then you'd be 493 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,720 able to run a time trial in for. 5K because you're. 494 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,080 Not allowing, you're not allowing yourself to have that 495 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,560 full recovery between the four hundreds because then you know, 496 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,680 like you can go offsprinting again to another 400, another 497 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,920 400. This way it's like putting you 498 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,240 into a bit more of a, you know, a race situation where you've 499 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,920 got to, you've got to recover under a bit of duress. 500 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:57,360 OK, so at the moment my I'm doing like yesterday, I I kind 501 00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,840 of bothered by Rep 11 and Rep 12. 502 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,760 I think I've was cooked and for sure and I've been aiming for 503 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,640 340 pace to try and keep it under 340 pace and which I've 504 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,760 been doing. But you're saying that the 505 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,080 better set, or you think potentially the more beneficial 506 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:19,400 set is instead of going 12 fours with A1 minute walk, I'm doing 8 507 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,360 fours with A200 metre? Float. 508 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,600 Yep, and the 200 metre float will stop you over pacing 509 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,520 yourself 'cause it'll start to dictate the pace you can go. 510 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,520 And you try and do that all even. 511 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,600 Yeah like the session itself will actually. 512 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:40,760 What's the word I'm looking for? Like no no it will actually stop 513 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,560 you going out and going too hard because when you take 4 rest 514 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,360 you'll run out again fast. I have. 515 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:48,360 Been doing that. But when you then you go to run 516 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:52,320 5K, you've got no resil, you've got no speed, you know, speed 517 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,880 based resiliency in that you've just been running, you know, 518 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,280 you're doing more. Easier way to say it is you're 519 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,600 doing more lactic work running the four hundreds versus doing 520 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,080 that fart like 400 session with the 200 float. 521 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,080 You're actually probably preparing your body to run the 522 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,560 5K time troll better, which then eventually will layer up to the 523 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,080 10K. There's a number of different 524 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,480 ways you can do four other people like, you know, our 525 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,840 Chris, the the Christmas session. 526 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,160 Most people would go out and do like 24, four hundreds with the 527 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,040 rest. Yeah. 528 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,920 But you're running them not like the speed, you're running them 529 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,560 to hold like a. Pace, consistent pace, yeah. 530 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,040 So OK, so I'll OK. So, well, I'm gonna do mix it 531 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,600 up, do. 11 week, do one week do the 12 fours, then try this. 532 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,200 But look, that's a guide because if you start to get like if you 533 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,840 start to get more resilient and your speed base gets better, 534 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,560 that 4.8 K worth of track session each week, you you'll 535 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,280 progress you. I want to see progression. 536 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:51,000 And so that's what I'm looking for. 537 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,320 Here's and here's what I'll say I. 538 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,560 Wouldn't be necessarily happy with progression and you saying 539 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,440 Oh well now I'm just running 4 hundreds quicker with dead rest. 540 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,680 That's not going to equate. Directly, this is great because 541 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:10,000 when I first did, when I did the tried the first one of these 12 542 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:15,280 by 4 hundreds, I think I got 6 1/2 like I was done like I 543 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,520 hadn't done speed work since maybe before Kunani. 544 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,320 So I couldn't get through and I I'm like, OK, this is going to 545 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,760 take some time next week it was 8 1/2 and then as I said 546 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,800 yesterday, I got through sort of 11. 547 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:34,600 Yeah. But I think now with the pivot 548 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,960 to what you're talking about, I'll I'll try this 8 fours with 549 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,480 the two float. Yeah, yeah. 550 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,480 I mean, if you would have said to me the four hundreds, I would 551 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,920 like, oh, you know, like I sent you up Kanani. 552 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,080 Well, jumping into four hundreds with rest, like, like full rest, 553 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,720 unless you're really, really take it, you know, being 554 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,320 conscious of what you're doing. Yeah. 555 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,200 Like, to me, that's also a recipe of twinging. 556 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,280 Yeah. So with. 557 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,840 Their foot just to I want some more clue. 558 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,040 This is a great. I love this and if anybody out 559 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,040 there is. Call trying, trying, calling 560 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:05,880 bullshit. No, no, no. 561 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,720 No, no, no. I was gonna say if anybody out 562 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,000 there is trying for something similar in terms of trying to 563 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,200 improve their 10K. I'm not claiming this one, but 564 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,400 if you read Deke's book, this was a weekly. 565 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,720 OK. A weekly session, even for the 566 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,840 marathon that he was doing. Couple of questions, firstly if 567 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:29,120 I'm wanting to run I want to run sub 40 minutes for 10K. 568 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,640 What time should I be running those fours in? 569 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,120 What pace? Sorry should I be running those 570 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,400 fours in? I do I want to be aiming for 571 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,880 3:50. I'm not going to ask you to do 572 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,080 the maths, but should I be trying to run them 355 or 350? 573 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,840 The four hundreds, yes, well, you're faster. 574 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,800 We're aiming for 5K pace. But I don't know what my 5K 575 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,000 pays. I guess my 5K pays to run if I 576 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,040 want to run the sub 40. I don't know you. 577 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,760 Need to be running quicker than what you want to run. 10K in for 578 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,400 the 400. So I probably need to be running 579 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,360 19 minutes for a 5K. Yeah, OK. 580 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,680 I just said yeah, and I wasn't really listening, OK. 581 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,360 So if I want to run a sub 4010, I need to run a sub 19 five. 582 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,440 I need. I need I need time. 583 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,240 I can't You put me on the spot on this one. 584 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,280 I I'm not gonna start making calls on 40 minute times and 585 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,360 runners. That's what pace you. 586 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,960 I know I don't know and I know the times I'm talking about in 587 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,920 your brain are slow as but next question is no, no. 588 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,000 No, no, slow as, but next question. 589 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,240 I just don't know, like off the top of my head. 590 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,640 It's not a pace I've ever thought of. 591 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,480 It's 'cause they're slow. Next question. 592 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,840 At the moment all I'm doing is is kind of slow 5 minute plus 593 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:46,360 pay per K, sort of longer runs, sort of 11 to 15 K runs and that 594 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,800 one session a week. Should I be? 595 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,600 Do you think I need to throw it into a tempo run in there? 596 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,240 I think you're going to need more than the one session. 597 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,760 OK, yeah, but a good guy, like I always say balance, there's no 598 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,000 right or wrong answer here, but a good balanced week is to have 599 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,600 the long run, the varieties, some type of, you know, tempo, 600 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,320 like kind of thresholdy type tempo run however you want to do 601 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,280 it. And then some type of more, you 602 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,920 know when I say speed, again, not coming back to like doing 603 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,320 flat out 400, but some type of like speedy orientated fart lick 604 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,600 or whatever you want to. Do I'm I'm I am back to that 605 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,160 little search, little part of my running brain that's scared of 606 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,360 speed again, like I'm but. Even like another way to look at 607 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,920 it this you obviously like those four hundreds or doing something 608 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,000 like that. Well, you know, mix it up with 609 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,880 going and finding like a slight gradient hill, you know, even a 610 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,520 hill that's just, you know, 3 to 5%. 611 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,880 So not too much and do some reps yeah, do your reps up there and 612 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,920 jog back down. And it's just changing the 613 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,480 variety of what you're adding to it. 614 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,280 But the strength element of running up the hill a bit faster 615 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,200 as well Will. I know I've got the hill near 616 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,600 me. I know exactly the one I need to 617 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,160 be running and it's yeah, there's a, there's a good I need 618 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,240 to throw it in. I'm scared of hills though now 619 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,080 and after like just the idea of running out them and not. 620 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Even a hill of 2 to 3% is a lot different to run I. 621 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,120 Think I'm mentally fragile at the moment. 622 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,120 I think my. I think running wise I'm 623 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,200 mentally fragile. So you went to the track to do 624 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,760 400? No, I didn't know. 625 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,160 See, when I go and do these four hundreds, I'm not doing them at 626 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,360 the track. I'm literally heading out from 627 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,080 Kurumba and. Just doing along the path. 628 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,320 And doing along the path, so you're just. 629 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,320 Going off the watch. Just going off the watch. 630 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,680 That's, well, that's more far landing than track work. 631 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,720 So I that's that's where my running is at. 632 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,680 Yep, currently. Well, that sounds good. 633 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,520 Everything's moving forward. Hey, city to surf. 634 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,200 Yeah, let's talk about it. Last weekend, far out the 635 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,800 weather looked, looked. Horrible. 636 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,280 I'm glad I wasn't there. It looked horrible. 637 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,640 Glad I wasn't there. It looked like it stunk. 638 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,280 I'm so I've, you know, it's, I don't think it made it 639 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,440 necessarily. So Isaac Hayne took it out in 640 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,360 the men's race and. Really 40? 641 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,240 30. Three, he gave Sam Clifford who 642 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,040 10K. No slouch, yeah. 643 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,280 Broke the 10K record, Australian record. 644 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,960 He's given him a given him a bunch up, hasn't he? 645 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,440 He's almost a minute. It was, what was it in the end? 646 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,120 That's a 51 second gap, yeah, right between Isaac and Sam. 647 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,240 So it's interesting, So the kind of field they get at city to 648 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,520 surf here, you haven't got any of their main kind of Melbourne, 649 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,440 what you'd call big hitters out of Melbourne, track club or 650 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,080 anything. Is it a NSW field? 651 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,200 I don't know where all these Tom Decanto, definitely out of 652 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,320 Sydney. I don't, I'm not. 653 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,600 I'm not so familiar with all these. 654 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,360 I bet Bronte Oates as well taking taking out the woman's 655 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,680 race at a good time too 4551. I'll tell you why she would have 656 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,280 given a lot of the men a bit of a scare. 657 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,280 That's fast, isn't? It that's proper quick 4551. 658 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:51,240 So she also took out the So remember the Red Bull flying 659 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,200 Sprint I was talking. About I wanted to hear about 660 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,720 this. Yeah, so it was interesting 661 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,680 'cause we were interested to see where if the leaders just took 662 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,280 it out or whether someone kind of came out of the woodwork for 663 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:05,880 the K Now, Bronte did win, so I'm just looking at the results 664 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,280 of that one. Colombo was 1.04, yeah, 665 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,480 kilometre split and she's gone there through there with a time 666 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,600 of 323. So she was 7 seconds ahead of 667 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,760 Ruby. Smear, Ruby Smear who I think 668 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,640 won the 10K at Gold Coast, right? 669 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,720 Where did she end up? Ruby came third over the overall 670 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,600 women's race. So in the women's race is pretty 671 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,120 much the leaders have have come out on top. 672 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,520 But in the men's, Isaac didn't take it out. 673 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,880 Yeah. Cam Merrick has obviously given 674 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,480 this this K section. He must have wanted his trip to 675 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:45,720 Japan because he's given it a touch up in a 252 split A. 250. 676 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,840 Two verse Isaac going through in a 257 verse, the group behind 677 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,320 him going through in just over 3 minute pace. 678 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,680 How do you spell his surname? Merrick, MRME. 679 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,920 Double RICKKM. Merrick. 680 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,200 I'm looking him up because I'm curious to know where he came, 681 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,159 what his overall finish was. If he's taken out the oh, he's 682 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,960 still run a sharp time. He's run a 4633. 683 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,560 But everybody has been in the front group. 684 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,880 No to do that, but or. Maybe he ran out there with the 685 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,040 front. Group because look 'cause I that 686 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,320 look, that's a. Great time. 687 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,040 And you to be able to still win the split, you're gonna have to 688 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,080 be a bloody good runner. Yeah, but he's he's he. 689 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,960 This is what we what it was put on for, for someone if they 690 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,960 really wanted to hold back a little bit and and get that's 691 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,520 incredible and get the chocolates. 692 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,199 That's cool. Yeah, that's so Cam. 693 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,800 Cam Merrick taking out for Men and Bronte Oates. 694 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,639 Yeah, take it out so. As long as long as they have 695 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,280 obviously gone to the website and you know, done all the TNCS 696 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,480 and everything else you need to do with putting on any type of 697 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,880 competition. They're off to Japan. 698 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,120 They're off to Japan to go up and now just run up a 400 metre 699 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,160 ski slope. That's just you could go up 700 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,440 there and do some of your training as well. 701 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:00,800 I'm off to Japan at the end of the year. 702 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,080 I'll talk about that as we get there. 703 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:08,640 Now, the Sydney to surf the thing I hypothesised and 704 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,240 wondered about what what would we see from an activation 705 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:15,640 standpoint? What would we see as far as with 706 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,240 the Sydney Marathon becoming a major this year and the running 707 00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:19,840 boom? And I feel like this is the 708 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,920 first edition of the race where right in the heart of this 709 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,320 running boom. I didn't see a lot of new stuff, 710 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,720 but I still did see some. What'd you say? 711 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,600 The Adidas activation down at Bondi at the finish line. 712 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,520 The Rebel Sport activation down at Bondi. 713 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,000 They're all partners of the event. 714 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,760 Partners of the event, I feel like that finish line area has 715 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,640 grown, has built, has become more of a precinct because in 716 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,560 years gone by, when I've run it, you kind of just finish and 717 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,480 there'd be some tents maybe set up. 718 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,880 It had a bit more of a they've. Always had the corporate areas 719 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,760 so so like good, good example would be so Doctor Ben, he had a 720 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,240 run. Oh, I'll give you a story of 721 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,920 what a backpacker like someone who can run but starts at the 722 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,880 back of the packs, what their experiences like. 723 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:13,400 So he said he ran and he's end up finishing the 50s, but can't 724 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,800 remember the exact time, 50s, he said he was up on the footpath. 725 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,680 I said, oh, did you go through the Red Bull 1K? 726 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,200 He said yeah, I did, but I went behind the activation because I 727 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,280 couldn't. He had to run through a section, 728 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,560 so he. Started, he got there early, 729 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,560 started at the front but at the front of one of the back 730 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,160 sections, he said. When they let us go, they let us 731 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,840 go 100 metres into the back of another section and it was just 732 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,560 chock a block the whole way. So I still had a good run. 733 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:42,640 But Ramsay Health, he's mob and you guys like that's like they 734 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,520 have a big activation, barbecue and drinks and everything else 735 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,520 at the end of it. So I think it's those corporate 736 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,880 type organisations that really make the most of it first 737 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,320 activations as such. Yep, I like it. 738 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,240 Yep, I like it. Look, I think the timing of it 739 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,920 is interesting as well, with now Sydney Marathon less than a 740 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,880 month away. You think brands had to make a 741 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,800 choice? Do we put our dollars in here or 742 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,280 put our dollars in? I do and I think with Sydney 743 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,120 being a major for the first time this year, I think I think we 744 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,080 saw most of them make the decision that the major is where 745 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,560 we will be. Yeah, I. 746 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,520 Executing as it. Were the way I still look at it 747 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,520 is Sydney just surf is the people's run. 748 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:25,520 So the runners you like yes you'll get people at the 749 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,960 marathon but marathon runners are runner runners. 750 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,200 I still think there's a lot of people who go in your city runs 751 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,640 and not just city to surf bridge of Brisbane and all that who 752 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,640 aren't runners like they don't even consider themselves 753 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,160 runners. We're just going out for the day 754 00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:39,760 and you see those back markers in the field they're just 755 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,440 walking they're having a day out in Sydney and it's those I I 756 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,920 suppose the brands have maybe chosen to go for the the runner 757 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,960 runners yes. I always, I sometimes question 758 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,920 that because depending on what product you got, it might 759 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,440 actually make more sense to be talking to the masses. 760 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,640 Not yet, because if you go to every marathon and you keep 761 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,920 going to the main runs or the track mates. 762 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,880 Eventually you're. You're talking to the same 763 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,560 people the whole time. Sydney, Sydney to surf. 764 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,480 I've got this and this is gut feeling is that the, let's say, 765 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,480 half the law of the back half of that field, They're not the 766 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,320 runners you'll get exposed to at those marathons. 767 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,840 Different, different audience. Completely agree. 768 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,160 Yeah, completely agree. And that's. 769 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,680 An opportunity that's an opportunity that's missed by 770 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,360 some. Hey, just because this will roll 771 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,120 off the back of this really nicely. 772 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,320 I want to show you I am impressed and I'm and this is 773 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,720 great to see. We've talked about how similar 774 00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:44,080 running has got in activation and the everything else give the 775 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,120 big call out to Columbia here. So, you know, the outdoor brand 776 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:54,000 been around for years and years. This is what we're starting to 777 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,400 see brands turn. And I don't know this has got to 778 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,240 do with the US, but I think. Nature is like this. 779 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:08,280 It's actually like this. So we'll put the video up with 780 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,800 the proper sound, but what you're seeing is like snakes 781 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,320 fighting people outdoors, the grim Reaper chasing runners. 782 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,080 Oh, that's. The guy? 783 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,760 Aaron Ralston. That's what Columbia engineers 784 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,560 everything you need for everything nature can throw at 785 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,560 you. Pretty proper outdoors, hey? 786 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,560 That is, for whatever. Good on your Columbia. 787 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,160 For whatever that is an engineered, for whatever that is 788 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,480 an excellent, excellent, that's great. 789 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,400 I'm hoping, I'm hoping this is the start of something. 790 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,640 I am hoping this is the start of something that we see just a bit 791 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:46,960 more diversity. Stylistically, no, it is not. 792 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:50,320 Not that diversity, not that diversity, but it is. 793 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,680 This is just they've gone. They've just gone against the 794 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,360 grain and gone. This is what we represent. 795 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,560 We're an outdoor brand. We're tough and we're going to 796 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,640 show it that way. That's cool. 797 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,920 That's really cool. I like it. 798 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,440 Bloody oath. I like it. 799 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,440 I'm hoping some of the other brands start going this way 800 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:10,840 because I if I see one more low shutter speed runner or, you 801 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:18,480 know, sitting in the urban environment, it's been it. 802 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,560 This has got a little bit of comedy to it. 803 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,520 It's a it's real. It's got, you know, the 804 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,080 backflipping bloody skis. Again, this is great. 805 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,640 That's good on your Columbia. Well done, Columbia. 806 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,680 I like it. Talking about people doing 807 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,200 different things. Killian, Johnny, I know you're a 808 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,360 fan. Arguably a fan. 809 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,960 One of the greatest endurance athletes in the history of the 810 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,880 world. Just just anything that's hard 811 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,040 and takes a long time to do. He does better than almost 812 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,800 anybody. I wanted to get your thoughts on 813 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,760 what he's kicking off next month. 814 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,800 Have you seen his North American, his first North 815 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,360 American adventure that he's taking off? 816 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:57,320 No, Kilian Jornay next month in September will launch States of 817 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,880 Elevation, his first major North American project. 818 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,640 The goal is to summit every 14,000 foot peak. 819 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:11,560 That's 4000 metres roughly in in in metric in the continental US, 820 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,720 travelling only by foot or bike. OK, so he's going to start at 821 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:19,400 long peaks in Colorado and finishing on Mount Rainier in 822 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,400 Washington. The route will span Alpine 823 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,880 ridges, forest and desert terrain. 824 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,000 Yeah, it follows your previous long distance traversed in the 825 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,920 Pyrenees and Alps, combining endurance, navigation and 826 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,840 exploration over weeks of continuous movement. 827 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,840 So he's basically spending however long this takes. 828 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:42,640 I don't know how many summits there are over that, that 14,000 829 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,800 foot. I think I'm just trying. 830 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,240 To think of the skier Cody, let me see if I can pick him up. 831 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,920 Cody. Cody Townsend does something 832 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,400 similar. Been skiing. 833 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,040 What's he got? What's he got? 834 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,760 What's he got? The 50 plus what's what what 835 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:03,480 what height were you talking? About in 14,000 feet. 836 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,880 So he does the 50 plus and he's been going around skiing down 837 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,480 all these mountains, but he did it over time and obviously 838 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,960 driving to them. OK, so continental, OK, here we 839 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,040 go. These are all located. 840 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,480 This is interesting, and this is where you've got to double check 841 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,840 things. There are 94 mountains in the 842 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,400 United States that exceed 14,000 feet in elevation. 843 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,320 According to Wikipedia. These are all located in the 844 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,840 state of Colorado, OR. Oh, OK, so they're all all the 845 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:30,840 same thing. Yeah. 846 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,440 So Cody, I'm just looking up Cody. 847 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,640 He was doing 40. He was doing the 50 classic ski 848 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,640 descents. OK, a bit different. 849 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,000 A bit different. Here we go. 850 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,320 OK, so you've got, there are a lot in Alaska. 851 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,000 I didn't think there'd be so many in Alaska, but it looks 852 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,680 like Colorado basically has. How is he going to be doing 853 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,760 here? I wonder if Meg, this is 854 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,240 incredible. I didn't think if you take out 855 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:04,160 the ones that are in Alaska, he's going to be climbing 856 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,600 somewhere in the vicinity of 70 mountains. 857 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,000 Yeah. All with elevation above 4000 858 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,760 metres and he's only going by feet or by bike. 859 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,000 So presumably by he's going to climb over them on his feet and 860 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,720 then he's going to ride in between them on his bike. 861 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,120 Or go up and come back down to his bike, I suppose. 862 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,880 He loves an adventure, doesn't he? 863 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,920 He's done some amazing stuff, I mean. 864 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,360 We now live in a world where this is someone's job. 865 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,520 Yeah, see, we now I'm going to get like, this is one of those 866 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,440 things that people are going to probably tear me down for. 867 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:45,720 He has the right to go out. The thing is, you know where I'm 868 00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:46,960 going. I know exactly where you're 869 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,080 going with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 870 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,240 He went off and he went to, I think it was, did he go back to 871 00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:55,200 Hard Rock or Western states? Western states. 872 00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:57,200 We talked about him the other day like he went back after all 873 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,320 those years he wanted and still places third. 874 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,240 I the guy is the best endurance athlete in the world in the 875 00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:08,360 sense in that outdoor space. He can go and do whatever he 876 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,480 wants. He can come back and race and 877 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,120 he's still he's still great too. You know what he can do whatever 878 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,840 he wants. And if he he the beauty of what 879 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,160 I you know, you said earlier on I was a big fan. 880 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,680 Why I'm such a fan is he's got both sides of it. 881 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,560 He's not just a racer. He then goes off and he's his, 882 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,160 you know, Mountaineer adventurer, but then he can come 883 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,000 back and be the best of the runners as well. 884 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,920 Yep, Yep. Yeah, anyway, he's a star and 885 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,960 there's something worth falling if you love your real ultra 886 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,280 endurance stuff, If you love your child stuff, something 887 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,080 worth falling. Killian Jornay States of 888 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,360 Elevation is what the project Calls kicks off next month. 889 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,680 Yeah. Now a little bit of let's go for 890 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,040 a little bit of fun. Let's go. 891 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,680 We're going. We're going to bring back first. 892 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,000 It's going to be on you, OK. And then I'll let you have a go 893 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,320 at me. Mirada, here we go. 894 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,640 Does anybody actually know what Hyrox is short for? 895 00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:02,560 Because I've just found out and don't get me wrong, like I don't 896 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,360 want to do a high rocks. They look really hard. 897 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,000 Hats off to you if you've done one right, but this makes you 898 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:12,520 want to do 1 even less. It's High Rocks is short for 899 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,520 Hybrid Rock Star Oh. No. 900 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,040 I've got the ick. Literally any video of high 901 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,600 rocks I see from now on I'm just going to cringe Jack. 902 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,240 Oh no, you have been called out, Liam. 903 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,280 Hybrid Rockstar? Is that what it really? 904 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,000 Stands for Australia's first water sommelier. 905 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,000 It also said High Rock rockers don't. 906 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:39,680 Sorry. What? 907 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,440 What was that? This came from a comment who you 908 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,360 don't know. The name is Australia's first 909 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,240 water some. I love when you try a word you 910 00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:50,000 what is it some? Yeah, it's like a like a French. 911 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:50,760 Is it somebody? Yeah. 912 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,440 Is somebody who tells you through that walks you through 913 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,440 the wine this at a restaurant. Oh right. 914 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,880 So if they're a water summer. So they're a connoisseur of 915 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:57,880 water. Yep. 916 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,480 Anyway, keep going swimming. That's what it's, he said. 917 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:01,880 Don't do. Yeah, her or him. 918 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,120 Don't do it. Maddie also chimed in, jumping 919 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,920 on the Hydrox because it's the new play toy. 920 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,600 All the shirts off and the pretty girls, Liam. 921 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:11,840 They got yeah, I'm not in the shirt. 922 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,320 I can't do my shirt off. I'm not in shirt off shape. 923 00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:17,200 Yeah, I'm not insured. I just wanted to like, we're 924 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,960 going to wrap that wrap this up now, but just to put the nail in 925 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,720 the coffin for you, I'm. Not doing horrors. 926 00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:25,560 You're not doing now. I feel attacked. 927 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,760 So Jen. Oh, here we go. 928 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,680 This to me. Shout out Jen. 929 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,200 It was a post on it's called. I haven't. 930 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,080 I hadn't heard of this, but it's called Trust Fund TNS. 931 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,120 Yes. So what's the Urban Dictionary 932 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,560 of a Trust fund? TNS? 933 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:48,800 OK, so noun pair of Solomon sneakers, also known as the Ford 934 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,280 Ranger sneakers. Expensive worn by the inner city 935 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,120 wankers that have never gone off road in their life. 936 00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:02,520 A trendy A trendy shoe worn by the March latte drinkers, Strava 937 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,960 stress trail runners and private school kids that went to arts 938 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:06,960 college. Well, I didn't go to arts 939 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,920 college then the final nail in the coffin for me was see also 940 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:18,160 Fitzroy steel caps or Shubaroos. So not only was I getting 941 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,480 attacked on Solomon am IA walking billboard for. 942 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:26,160 That is you all over. Am IA walking billboard for the 943 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,760 inner city wanker that's never gone off road in their life. 944 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,840 No, that's not what you are. That's not really. 945 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,560 That's good. That's what I'm genuine about to 946 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,320 use it in a sentence. So they've been needed to buy a 947 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,560 new pair of Airpods. So he put on his trust fund, 948 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,920 TNS, and went hiking to Mount Westfield. 949 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,400 That's not you. That's not you. 950 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,800 That was the Subaru. Well, it was. 951 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,760 Funny, I was. I was giving it to you, so I 952 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,280 thought I'd get something bad. That's good. 953 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,480 That's good. And these have you. 954 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,600 Now the other thing you put on the run sheet, which I do want 955 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,480 to run through, is what your shoe says about, Yeah. 956 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,640 We've done this before, but this is a new one I saw. 957 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,040 This is a good one from Bolt in Ben on Instagram. 958 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,520 Let's just go through. We don't need to go through all 959 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,680 the shoes, but let's certainly go through the highlights. 960 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,800 The old man shoes. I refer to them the Brooks. 961 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,320 If you run in Brooks, this is what bolt in Ben says you you 962 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,120 are as a runner. You don't care what the shoe 963 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,400 looks like. You want arch support, toe box 964 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,880 real estate and a shoe that feels like a weighted blanket. 965 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,080 Your pace is consistent. So is your Spotify playlist. 966 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,920 It's all Coldplay. Oh, that is perfect. 967 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,280 Yes. So that is how I think of Brooks 968 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:30,520 run. Hey. 969 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,720 I like the toe box real estate, I'll tell you that. 970 00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:34,880 Yeah. ASICS Which and this. 971 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,480 I'll consider myself an ASICS runner. 972 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,600 Yep, because it's the shoe I'm mostly running ASIC. 973 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,520 You still call it jogging, but you're also weirdly fast and 974 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,080 injury free, so not me. You probably own compression 975 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,640 size casualties. We've identified that, Yep. 976 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,360 That's good. Yep, our old friend Brondy 977 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,840 Langbrooke, who runs in Soccernies. 978 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,560 You're that quiet runner who absolutely demolishes people on 979 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,200 hills. You don't talk about shoes, you 980 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,080 just float past people and say nice pace. 981 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,880 Which is pretty much what it was. 982 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,760 Why did you buy them? Well, they look nice because 983 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,720 they look nice. Some of the new rubber I'm 984 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:09,160 hearing in the Zucconi, whatever, I don't know what's to 985 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,040 come or whether it's come out, but they're really given that a. 986 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,600 Big talk. OK, I like Puma too. 987 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,560 If you're if you run in Puma, this is what Bolton Benz says. 988 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,600 You run a you should say but you you choose them for the colour. 989 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,720 Then accidentally became that guy in your gym who doesn't run 990 00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:25,120 but somehow wins. High rocks. 991 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,560 Your long run is 4.5 kilometres and it ends with sleds, right? 992 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,720 If well if you go down that route mate, you'll see yourself 993 00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:34,280 in these. OK, I want to keep going on. 994 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,320 These are good and Hawker. For those of you that are 995 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,480 running in hawkers right now, your personality is 40% shoe 996 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,680 cushion. You started running to manage 997 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,720 stress. Now you're 2 weeks away from 998 00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:49,600 buying trail poles and a van. That's so good. 999 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,880 Is there more? The yeah, yeah, we're. 1000 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,560 On please do. Yeah, we got to do on. 1001 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,960 This is on you're not sure if you're a runner or an interior 1002 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,480 designer, but the shoes look aesthetic in your doorway. 1003 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,760 Bonus points if your jogs end at a cafe called Something and Sons 1004 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,600 Nike. A lot of Nike runners out there. 1005 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,840 Nike runners. You say it's just the most 1006 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,800 comfortable, but let's be real, you saw Kipchoge wear them 1007 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,080 blacked out at checkout. You don't run races, you run ads 1008 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,920 for Nike. That is, that is true. 1009 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,400 That is my brother. You don't. 1010 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,040 No, he does run races, but he also runs out for Nike. 1011 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,800 That's, that's that new Romero there. 1012 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,880 Yeah. Yeah, it's a good looking shoe. 1013 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,200 Quick, I should do Adidas because I run in these Boston 1014 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,040 twelves and that's what the picture of the shoe is. 1015 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,120 Having a trial of these two, so Adidas. 1016 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,160 In the club you're all about performance and proving it. 1017 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,520 You wear Boston twelves to park, run and call it race pace 1018 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,920 practise. You've definitely DM someone 1019 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,440 about their cadence. On the elite side, that's good. 1020 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,400 Gee, we might do. But Mizuno, I don't even know. 1021 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,120 It's a sharp heel. There's no New Balance in there. 1022 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,640 New Balance didn't get a shout. Come on, New Balance. 1023 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,840 You got to lift your game. It's a good one. 1024 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,840 What was I? I had something. 1025 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,040 You. We just mentioned it there and 1026 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,840 it's disappeared from my brain. About shoes. 1027 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,200 It was going to annoy me now About shoes. 1028 00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:11,120 Nah, it's gone away. I had something to talk to you 1029 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,720 about. This one runners runners world 1030 00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:17,800 mag I saw this on insta put a post up saying sign they didn't. 1031 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,920 I don't think they showed you the article. 1032 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,000 They just said scientists prove shoe rotation lowers injury 1033 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,560 risk. That's interesting. 1034 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,040 Well makes sense. Give the rubber time to rest and 1035 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,000 change it up a bit. Sure. 1036 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,840 Is your collection holding you back? 1037 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,680 I mean, their job is to sell shoes. 1038 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,640 That's a good point. That's a good point. 1039 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,920 I was think it. It's a little bit like, of 1040 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,040 course, I'm going to keep telling you that if I want to. 1041 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,680 Sell your shoes. I'm trying to incentivise your 1042 00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:45,040 body of shoes. We've got some listeners jumping 1043 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,360 in and we again, if anybody's out there and you've got 1044 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,240 questions, throw them in. Now that we don't have any races 1045 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:54,920 that we're preparing for, we can always got time to to jump into 1046 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,400 your questions. Bailey Hibbett has hit us up. 1047 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,520 Say hey boys, loving the pod. You know running is at its peak 1048 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,400 when the bots of infiltrated Strava giving you kudos. 1049 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,600 So this is an interesting one. Sexy. 1050 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,640 Sophie is is the. User. 1051 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,120 It looks like when you click into that wrong website. 1052 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,680 Now we've all been, we've all been gotten the random friend 1053 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,160 request or the notification on a social media platform and you 1054 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,560 know, you've opened it up and you've gone. 1055 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,920 This is clearly a bot. This is clearly a fake account 1056 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,000 someone's using to scam my information. 1057 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,720 Well this is 0 followers, 0 following. 1058 00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:36,080 So you read that? So yeah, so Bailey, who has been 1059 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,400 followed by a profile called Sexy Sophia. 1060 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,840 And then it says in confidence, I want to share with men a site 1061 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,760 where many women are looking for sex and relationships. 1062 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,160 And then a link. This is this is who Bailey now 1063 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,480 has following him. And as he points out, you know, 1064 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,840 you know, runnings at a peak when the scammers have said, oh, 1065 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,520 we should go to Strava to start. Wonder if any of my followers 1066 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,880 have have? Geez, while Liam guy's looking 1067 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,400 down, he's saying and Josh McNabb wrote in. 1068 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,560 Love the pod guys always my go to on long runs. 1069 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,640 I feel your pain Liam. That Strava story you told about 1070 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,800 getting robbed? He's been robbed by he was 1071 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,800 robbed by listening to the podcast. 1072 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,400 Oh no, on the exact topic, I was hunting AKOM on Strava that I'd 1073 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,600 been eyeing off for a while now. My run got back thinking he's 1074 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,320 got the crown, uploaded it and it was corrupted. 1075 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,160 You put the jinx on him. Oh, stitch up. 1076 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,640 That's, that's unlucky. I'm just saying. 1077 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,120 What else? More about Liam while you're 1078 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,720 finding out more about Liam here. 1079 00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:39,200 JDH Rodian Hi. Jan's been listening to the 1080 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,600 episode 45 with Liam. Struggles to run early in the 1081 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,200 morning after your radio. New role in the right morning 1082 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,080 radio. I have the same issue. 1083 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,600 It's always been an early runner, but moved to Cairns a 1084 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,200 year ago. My job has me working until 1085 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,240 midnight or later. I've had to become a late 1086 00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:55,760 morning runner. Oh, Jesus. 1087 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,280 In Cairns that's not going to be good. 1088 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,720 Yeah. Challenges even. 1089 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,680 Even when I've got the time and get to bed early, I find I can't 1090 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,640 bring myself to run anymore early. 1091 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,680 Today's run. Then he went out and he did a 1092 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,640 nine K easy pace run with A1K effort to get a new Strava 1093 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,600 crown. A lot of Strava. 1094 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,160 Not a Strava HUD us out there? PS Love the pod. 1095 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,640 I'm just, I'm just, I don't think I've got any bots 1096 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,720 following me on. Yeah, I don't think I've got. 1097 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,840 Ryan Deegan Oh mate, everyone's loving got given you plenty with 1098 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,960 what? Oh, just just just feedback, 1099 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,520 just. Supporting me because I'm I get 1100 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,480 injured. This is for Liam and his Nike 1101 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,120 Vapour flies now. I was at my daughter's regional 1102 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,800 athletics carnival the other day and as parents, we won't. 1103 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,600 We won't. We want to think my kids better. 1104 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,000 Yes, all that. But there was a dad there and he 1105 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,480 was wearing vapour flies, just wearing them like joggers. 1106 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,600 And every time I saw him I thought he wanted to race. 1107 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,160 All I could think about is the day. 1108 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,360 All I could think about during the day was Liam thinks he's not 1109 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,040 worthy of wearing his and he's a dad wearing them around an 1110 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,600 athletics carnival like joggers. Yeah, see, I don't. 1111 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,000 I never want to become that guy. Ollie Harvey hit us up, Ollie 1112 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,600 says. I got the sockney the he Ollie 1113 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,520 hit us up before the marathon and he was running in the 1114 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,720 sockney Endorphins but but he messaged us just the other week 1115 00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:23,560 saying gents. Just went for my first run since 1116 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,440 GC Mara and I'm being dead serious when I say 10 kilometres 1117 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,400 felt harder than the marathon a week ago. 1118 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,240 In fairness I've been drinking wine in Victoria all week but 1119 00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:34,040 did generally want to know if there's anything to the post 1120 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,440 Mara running it being hard? Thought it might be a good 1121 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,040 question for anybody in the same boat. 1122 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,040 We've kind of hit on this a little bit, I think. 1123 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,920 Yeah, I mean, it gets hard. Essentially, yes. 1124 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,080 What? So I was out running up at the 1125 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,760 Spit Trails this morning doing some 2 minute efforts with a, 1126 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,120 with a one minute float and with the Gold Coast Runco group. 1127 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,080 And it's interesting because there's a lot of them who've 1128 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,600 come back from the marathon. Some are tired, some haven't got 1129 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,880 over it, some might have, you know, went a bit early. 1130 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,720 The ones who rested had who didn't overcook themselves at 1131 00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:08,120 the marathon, had a good build and then have rested properly 1132 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,360 and come back. They found when they first come 1133 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,280 back, there was a little bit of and my brother was one of these 1134 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,520 two. They've come back. 1135 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,920 They found like it was a little bit hard, a little bit hard. 1136 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,080 But then they've gone through that super compensation because 1137 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,560 they've given themselves enough rest and they're on a new level. 1138 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,320 And when I talk about a new level, like when like that's 1139 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,600 what periodize, you know, we talked a lot in the early 1140 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,800 episodes about periodizing your training and you're like going 1141 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,640 from, you know, strength to strength to strength. 1142 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,280 And that's when you get it right. 1143 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,880 That's that's what happens. That's how your body work. 1144 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,120 You do there's. Nothing. 1145 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,720 You rest about any of this, isn't it you? 1146 00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:43,240 Can still feel shit while it's starting to like you know you're 1147 00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:45,520 recovering, you're recovering and recovering, but when it 1148 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,920 happens, the magic happens. Can I give a shout out to this? 1149 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,080 Guy's doing it in his own way. Local Gold Coast fella Koopi 1150 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,200 Koopi tala. Have you come across Koopi? 1151 00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:01,040 I met bit of background when Ned Brockman went on his milk run 1152 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,000 when he first launched his milk and he started driving the van 1153 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,600 with and doing runs in sort of cap cities. 1154 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,680 He came through Newcastle and up to all the way up to the Goldie. 1155 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,320 I went up and and did Ned's run out of Burley and just running 1156 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,480 along. I met started running with this 1157 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,640 fellow called Koopi having a chat and at the time, at the 1158 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:28,520 time I think he had he was on a streak of about he'd almost run 1159 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,800 a year consecutively. He'd he'd. 1160 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,800 Just every day. He'd run, I think he was nearing 1161 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,200 one year running every day. He'd gotten into running because 1162 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,960 he was a bit flat, the mental health stuff that a lot of 1163 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,960 people have got into it for. So he was, he was approaching a 1164 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:52,840 year of consecutive running. Currently he is at 904 days 1165 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:59,240 running every day. The last 428 days have been 10K 1166 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:05,480 plus and as of yesterday and our day of recording, he just 1167 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,520 finished 42 marathons back to back with. 1168 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,560 All back to back. 42 marathons back to back just. 1169 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,400 Going out every day. Every day did a marathon every 1170 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,080 day for the last 42 days. What's he doing for a job? 1171 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,880 So I think he's a, I think he's a, he's still, he works for, 1172 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,760 he's working, he's back. Because when I first met him, he 1173 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,560 and his family were about to embark on a, a kind of a travel 1174 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,320 around Australia thing. They'd rented out the house and 1175 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:35,240 they were just packing up the car and travelling and he they 1176 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,760 were about to have another baby. And so that's why they've come 1177 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,320 back to the Gold Coast. Apologies, I don't actually know 1178 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,320 what he does for a job, but he is still working. 1179 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,800 He's doing it. So he's getting he's getting 1180 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,040 out. He's been doing his marathons 1181 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,640 mostly at night after he gets home. 1182 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,880 Wow, that's that's dedication. But yeah, shout out to he's a 1183 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,000 he's a ripping fella. He's always got a big smile on 1184 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,600 his face and he just completed this awesome challenge. 1185 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,400 So yeah, big shout out to Cooper. 42 marathons back to 1186 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,360 back. Nice work. 1187 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,120 Now before we go again, we just want to remind everybody, I 1188 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,280 don't if you've for whatever reason, if you've managed to get 1189 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,040 here without hearing the start of the podcast, Sydney Major 1190 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,200 marathon, the TMS Sydney marathon, we are going down to 1191 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,280 Sydney for the marathon. We are going to be there on the 1192 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:22,640 Friday before the race thanks to AG1-GO and follow the Instagram 1193 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,440 account, drink AG 1 AU. 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Think just to talk about AG one 1205 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,640 for a moment. I use it now. 1206 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,320 I really, I have, you know, made it. 1207 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,480 It's just part of my morning routine now and I really like 1208 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,600 it. But I remember when like Rich 1209 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,120 Roll and Joe Rogan were advertising it. 1210 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,400 And I remember this is before I started using her and I because 1211 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,240 podcasting was such a a new frontier then and the brands 1212 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,440 that seemed to embrace advertising on podcasts early 1213 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:31,000 were kind of not Renegades, but sort of pioneers in a sense that 1214 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,520 kind of went they they seem to be searching for their niche 1215 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,560 audience to find it's a. Kiwi company though, right it. 1216 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,400 Is yeah, it's a New Zealand company so yeah, it's a 1217 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,800 fascinating business and and I think when you see athletes like 1218 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,760 Andy and Mick Fanning's involved now as well, you know, clearly 1219 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,560 it's a product that that they get behind and and it must be 1220 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,360 working so yeah well, we're. Looking forward to that one, 1221 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:52,960 yeah. It's gonna be fun. 1222 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,960 We're gonna be down there. Subscribe, like, comment, share 1223 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,120 it with your friends. We want to continue embracing 1224 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,000 the running boom and maybe we'll start bringing a bit of 1225 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,840 diversity of our own to our our reals. 1226 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,520 Courtney, our Columbia, the outdoor mom. 1227 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,480 We'll see you next week. See you next week.