In the beginning, episode 60, Connor, we've made 60 episodes.
We have Liam Flynn. Congratulations to you.
How are you? I'm good another day.
Another day feels like a lifetime since I've seen you.
Another day running. Let's.
Well, let's start there. Are you running?
I'm running. You running?
Yeah. I was down this morning, had a.
How you feeling? I'm moving along all this
strength work I'm doing in the gym, you know, getting myself
really sorted out, loving lifting at the moment.
But Oh no, no, no, we're not going there.
What are you lifting? No intention of OK, no intention
of where you think this is going.
You're not getting into 100%, not going anywhere near that.
But. Talk us through.
Talk us through Courtney Atkinson's lifting regime for
running right now. But with it's just, it's just
rehab. I've just been really focused in
the gym, right, and then just backed off my running a little
bit. So just making sure that I can
absorb that gym work. That means running's being
really free at the moment, but not doing anything too, too
structured getting out there and running.
But what I also am doing is getting out and swimming a lot
and I'm absolutely enjoying that.
We did World League. What is it this week?
I was out on a Monday morning. We've got a great crew bit a few
footy players toy. Daku runs the the saltwater swim
on Wednesday, Yes, down at Tully Creek and we pretty much do the
old school world champs of who can catch a wave in the furthest
and then all bust our way out again.
And you know what? Holding your breath and trying
to do that is one of the more challenging kind of sessions you
can get to. So you you're putting in a bit
of swim in a bit of holding your breath and then a a good coffee
after it. It's a good morning.
What do they call that? Because I remember the few sort
of squad swimming sessions I've done.
What do they call that type of swimming where you swim
underwater for as far as you can and then you come up stroking?
It's or. It's not a certain type of
breath. Breath.
Hold it might be breath hold or breath work, I'm sure.
Certain swim coaches have got a certain, you know.
The benefit of that though, yeah, yeah, anyway.
I'll swimming next to, Yeah, one of, I mean, one of our best ever
Iron Woman, Carla Gilbert was swimming next to us the other
day and she was still telling me up as like I'd go, I'd go under,
the surf was reasonable. And I'd go under and I'd try and
come up and then she'd just pop up, you know, through a few feet
in front of me. I'm like.
Quick question about your gym work and easing off the running.
I was at the gym this week as well and Wade was talking about
the importance of deloading weeks in that.
Can you talk a bit about from your career perspective?
Because Wade's was talking specifically around the gym and
his is a gym and a structure and a programme where it's very much
designed for people to be improving their how much they
can lift, right? And that strength component.
And he was talking about that importance of the week off.
It's not you can't. Your body can't sustain that
constant imprisonment. The same as running, it's
periodization of anything, right?
Did you be running? Swimming?
And how much did you focus on that during like how, how often
would you take a D load week in your training when you're in
your peak? Well, I just got told what to
do. So you literally you, you just
like when the coach said. Yeah, when the coach, I mean,
that's why you'd work with a coach and and work all that out
as to when the IT was, I think the what I can probably speak on
more so around when I was racing and doing weights.
And I know that, you know, both in running and triathlon, the
boys are doing a lot and girls are doing a lot of this at the
moment. Like it's definitely an
important part of their the whole performance is more so
around coming into your races, your A races versus B races.
And how do you attack that if you've been doing gym work?
So, you know, do you reduce the reps?
Do you reduce the weight? Do you reduce both?
How, how close to the race do you continue to do those
weights? And what did you typically?
Well, what I found is at the right weight, it was always
great to me, it always felt like a great stretch.
So sometimes so stretch underweight.
So having lifting for not the purpose of the actual weight
itself, but to actually make the body feel better, that worked
for me a lot. So that was something I remember
doing after racing as I'd be always like, OK by, you know,
not the day after we've done a hard race, but I'd always want
to get back in the gym pretty soon, even if it was less
weight, just to go through that movement to open everything up.
And it's something I definitely feel like I have missed in the
past, maybe, you know, 6-7 years when I've kind of neglected a
lot of these things when we've been out there on the trails
having a lot more fun. And you think, you know what, I
don't need any more of that anymore.
You know, I'm out here in the trails and we're just running a
bit more free. But the reality is, and I think
the reality is as you get older too, I keep circling back to
that strength is really the core element that you need to work.
On that's really, I don't think we've actually ever touched on
that. I mean, we've talked about a lot
in 59 episodes already, but I don't know if we've ever touched
on the idea of weights and that gym environment being used as
part of recovery. I mean, we've talked a lot about
the cold, hot and cold plunges and the Norma techs and
everything else, but the idea of that, those that stretch
underweight. Yeah, I mean, I'm with no
expertise in in how they'd I suppose prescribe that now.
But even you think about going into competition and take footy
players as an example. They'll go into the gym, you
know, probably the day before some of them, maybe the day to
do certain lifts to make them feel good, to go out there with
a strength element onto the field.
You know, everyone's going to attack it differently.
And we could probably it's, it's a little bit like running or
anything else or diets. You could probably bring in, you
know, 100 different coaches and they may attack it a slightly
different way, but there's something definitely in there
around activation of weight and everything else so.
That activation stuff is what it comes back to, particularly for
the running, yeah. It would be an interesting
conversation to get someone in here to talk not about the
structure like you were talking about how to do gym, but
actually specifically come in and talk about how activation
and doing you know certain things may be able to improve
your performance specifically for a race environment.
OK, that's interesting. Let's stay with.
This was a bit further down the run order, but I'm going to
throw it at the top now because anybody who is on Strava and has
managed to either find themselves a maybe you're maybe
you're just a great runner, or maybe you've managed to find
yourself a little run segment on Strava and you've taken a crown.
Now crowns, for those that don't know on Strava are basically it
comes to say that you are the fastest who's ever run a certain
segment on Strava. Courtney Atkinson, I know you
have crowns. Do you, are you aware of your
crown status on Strava still well?
Can I go somewhere with this first?
Well, yeah, I feel like we might end up in the same spot.
Oh, we're right. So you know who took some crowns
off me? No, I don't.
I. Did see.
What location are you thinking? Sunny Coast?
So what?
I'm seeing 1770 no. Sorry, that's it.
Not not Sunny Coast, 1770. Isa, Agnes Water.
Patrick Matt Amara, Yep, his his his activity was called Crown
hunting and it had the sub the caption of Sorry, Courtney,
because and I literally got how did you see this?
Well, I got a message from Patrick McNamara.
I was saying Liam on I'll find the the message he said on the
next podcast. Can you 2 discuss with Courtney
getting the OO Strava email. So do you still get the
notification? Well, when someone takes your
crown. It's funny, I was running this
morning, I was half an hour early and I was just scanning
through and yes, you do, You do. So the Agnes to 770 Van Park and
back segment, you lost. Oh, you did get it.
Oh, oh, you lost your course record.
So Patty took it off you and took it off you with some some
distance too. He knocked you off by almost 3
minutes or 3 1/2 minutes. What?
What is the segment the? Segment is a 13 point 713.17 K
out and back. 70 Agnes 7070, Van.
And back. Yeah, that's unforgiving up
that. Road and and Paddy's run it in
three at 353 pace and you previously held the the Crown at
410 pace, so he's really gone out in.
The chase, it's a 54 minute run. Jesus, I definitely wouldn't
have gone out and tried to smack that that I know that path.
So there's not you can run along the beach South of Agnes Waters.
So there's a place like a holidaying a fair bit up in
Central QLD. And the main reason we go there,
Paddy Patrick, is we actually go there.
So if not really right and generally it's in the middle of
summer in in the height of summer, which is probably one of
the most excruciating runs you can do in summer because you're
just in this, you know, it's literally the marshlands as
you're running along central north QLD.
What I what I respect about that run from Paddy is because often
you see, yeah, Paddy's done his at the end of October, you do
yours in the middle of January. So I imagine slightly different
conditions. So, but what I respect what I
and anybody that's ever lost a crown.
Challenge accepted, by the way. What anybody that's ever lost a
crown, when you see that that segment winners come as that's
all they've done. You know, there's people that do
go out there and actively try to just win segments.
So Paddy's done that 13 K segment as part of a 27 1/2 K
run. So it's, it's a full day out
there for Buddy. He's gone out there.
That's a big run. It's a big run, right?
And Paddy's literally travelling Australia at the moment.
Is he just collecting Strava crowns?
Yeah, no, no, he's calling it stealing crowns.
So right. Just be warned if you have
anything else in there, he's he's.
Heading north or? He's been running.
I think he's on his way back S at the moment.
Oh, OK. We might have to hit him up for
a run. We get involved for a run.
He's an ASICS ambassador. He's grateful.
Patty, that is where I wanted to go.
That's. Funny that is funny now if you
still. Got those?
Uh oh. Every every so often you see
them pop up and then yeah, but that was a that's a good I.
Mean it's a good some. Of them are so uninteresting
it's like, I don't know, mermaid waters bus stop to the the
bottle or something. Well, I was a bit disappointed
that it's a great run. I thought maybe Miami Stairs
might have had a local legend segment to it that if you the
other part, if you're not the fastest, if you do it the most,
you can become the local legend and.
No one's given. AI ran those stairs 300 times in
10 days. Yeah.
So if there's if there is a segment, apparently I still
don't run them enough. Did you get sore?
No, surprisingly, no. That we talked a bit about the
impact of those stairs last week on my predicted time, Garmin
predicted times. And I can tell you it's a
loophole because I went out running and I'm nowhere near the
predicted times. But I was really pleased with
how my legs held up Calves were fine.
Bit of tightness through the hip flexor.
I found yes, when I've been in the gym doing a bit of hip
flexor stuff. It's funny if you, if anybody's
has never done much with a what are the bands?
They just a band, the ones you throw around your feet or your
ankles and whatever. If you do a bit of activation
work around with your glutes, crab walking or or driving your
knees up, it's, it becomes pretty clear quickly if you've
got some deficiency or tightness and wear because you start to
get real wobbly. It's my right glute.
My right glute is is what is weak.
If you stand on one leg, are you more you shaken on that one?
Yes, that's the. That is the glute, that is.
Fatigues, but is it also unstable?
I don't know if it's unstable, Oppositely unstable.
OK, well you answer this question because then my left
calf is the one that's caused problems.
Right glute, right glute, left calf.
Yeah, he might be taking more. Like I don't want to get called
out. Here, Oh, but I should say I'm
completely run fit at the moment, like I'm healthy, I've
got no injuries in. To answer your question about
those stairs, 300 sets of stairs, 5000 metres of
elevation. Didn't legs are good?
Surprising it didn't. Nothing got activated.
Sore from it, like especially coming down like a little bit of
DOMS on the quartz. I would have thought I was.
Quite I I I wasn't racing down the stairs.
We were going down and I was about to diagnose you and then I
just realised I'm just going to be talking, yeah.
Yeah, crap. Absolute rubbish.
Sydney Mara.
This is big because we've talked a lot about whether how close to
running is to the peak. Yep.
You know, when, when isn't or is it?
Is it or is it? Yeah.
And or are we at the top of the curve?
This probably suggests no. Not there yet.
So 123,000 runners entered the Sydney Marathon ballot and a 56
perc. That was a 56% increase on last
year. That's.
Pretty significant. I again, we feel like if you are
in running and you've been in running for a while, the the
mindset you probably have is that it can't get any busier.
It this marathons are becoming so popular shoes.
Everything that goes with it influences podcasts.
Everything around running is as busy and noisy as it's ever been
and surely we are reaching that tipping point.
I don't know if we are. I think it's still got another
level to go to. Well, obviously, I mean, that's
a that's AI mean. We did talk about how Sydney,
the major really has helped them as the marathon kick.
Yeah, but that's a that's a big one I hurdle.
I'm not going to say where. Or here we go.
But I heard an interesting stat pop up which was quite
interesting. We won't say exactly which part
of it, but obviously they ask you different questions when you
enter the Sydney Marathon. Some of those questions are, you
know, different minority questions.
Yep. Feedback is by taking those
minority questions, those people get 100% into the race versus
those who don't. OK, OK.
Obviously helps with stats. Yeah.
But the question is, do they ever check that?
Oh. I see what you're saying.
So there's no in the in the. There's actually no check on to
whether or not. A direct comparison with
something we've talked about recently when we saw her on the
weekend just gone noose triathlon, Clydesdale, weigh in,
you weigh in. You weigh in.
You register as a Clydesdale, then you weigh in and you're
suggesting, look, I know what you're saying.
Sadly, we live in a world where if there are loopholes to be
jumped through, people will jump through them, for better or
worse. I'd hate, I, I wouldn't like
that there had to be a policing policy on something like that
there. Really.
And it sounds like it sounds like there is.
But anyway, that's pure pure. But to go back to, because we
talked about this last year, 12 months ago, about the idea that
if the Gold Coast Marathon were a business based on the stats
that it delivered when it sold out in a week most recently,
it's a business you'd invest in. Running is still a business you
should, could, can we'll invest in because these Sydney Marathon
numbers suggest that 50% growth year on year in a major, in an
enormous marathon. It's.
I can't wait to see what it is next.
Year, I don't know where where this was, but I mean there was
an article or A at least a post that people have been sharing
around in New York on Wall Street.
The sub three hour has now become kind of like the big Dick
swinging thing for all of the Wall Street guys verse.
You know, it's actually moved to performance in endurance sports
as an element verse cars, planes.
Interesting. So it's a status thing, a status
thing to actually, but we but. Because of the, I suppose the
competitive nature of that, you know, personality type.
They want to win. They want to win everything.
It's actually, so it's not just about just running it.
It's now become like sub three hours.
That is so that yeah, and this is but, and this kind of goes
back, we've touched on this quite a bit.
The idea that diminishing just finished like, you know, the
idea that people now finishing 1/2 marathon's not worthwhile or
not worthy. It still is.
I keep telling people I was having, I had this conversation
with someone on the weekend, ended up talking about running
and she said I'm not a runner. I'm like, oh, OK, don't run.
She goes, I said, I said, what do you do for exercise?
She says, oh, well, I run 5 KS. I'm like, you're a runner,
You're the that mindset. That's that mindset of is
something I think we continually try and push, which is that you
don't have to run marathons. You don't have to run sub three
hour marathons. You don't have to run half
marathons to be a runner, to embrace running.
Yeah, if you run, I said to this woman, I'm like, no, no, you're
a runner. If you run 5K, she's like, yeah,
I'll do it twice a week. I'm like, then you're a runner,
you're a runner. Change that mindset.
It doesn't have to be. And we're in that noisy phase
around running in marathons and distance and all the rest of
that. I wonder how much like someone
who's running twice a week though 5K, how much noise of the
marathon they get. Well, you know, whether there
was a marathon noise or not, they'd still consider, well, I'm
not, I'm not whether it's more I don't go to a training group and
I don't I don't competitively run.
Sure, that probably is more the one I don't competitively run.
So I'm not a runner. OK, so I don't enter races if.
So I run. I run.
I run so if I'd asked her the. Question.
Do you run? Yes.
She would say yes, she would. Say yes as opposed to are you a
runner? She says no.
Interesting. I reckon that might be.
Interesting. That's a nice That's a funny
experiment. Where the line say, hey, this
one just keep keeping going with this idea of where running's
going and how much it's still trending.
So this is from Women's Health Mag in the United States.
And they've obviously seen the same thing.
It's transformation, you know, it's becoming mainstream.
Running's becoming mainstream. It's no longer niche.
The Boston Marathon drew its largest field of applicants ever
again. So in line with Sydney Marathon
as well. This is happening in Germany,
all across the world. They're questioning why this is
happening so much now. And they said part of the
endurance sports booms comes down to our obsession with
something that may be on your wrist.
So data studies show wearables push users to move
significantly, significantly more than there's the
camaraderie, that word camaraderie aspect.
Run clubs feel bigger than ever. And races such as high rocks
have options that led you let you go with a team rather than
being solo. But what they're questioning is
does the data and having access to be able to compare not just
to yourself, but to others is that's what's really driving the
running, running boom. So if you took away Strava, you
took away knowing how exactly how much your GPS watch is
telling you. Would running be having its
moment like it is? No, I think comparison's got a
huge part to do with it. I think we as a as a people
inherently want to compare ourselves to others, for better
or worse. In some environments it's great,
in some it's detrimental. The old adage of what is it?
Comparison is the thief of joy. I I think it's really prevalent
in some people's running. I think if you can't just run
for yourself and you, it's always about comparing yourself
to what everyone else is doing, it's a problem.
But yeah, I think the that data and comparison and and
competition element and and in doing it as a group is a huge
reason. And, and would it be as big and
as as significant and feel like as great a moment as we're
having now without it? No, I don't think it would be as
big. It's driving it.
It's absolutely. You're part of it, just like the
outlet, just like hiking. I suppose during COVID, hiking
and mountain biking were driven. In COVID, it was by people
seeing others doing it. Yeah.
And then feeling comfortable. I think this is now what's
resonating and running. It's the old, it's the FOMO
stuff. Yeah, too.
It's the fear missing out attitude that we saw a while
back. Just with the I've just had a
I've just had a another one of my great half baked.
Ideas, right? We're going to have to give this
a name. It's happening.
It's starting where it's when we start talking, running.
My brain goes into a new territory.
No a name for your half baked. Yeah, I know we're going to have
to come up with the name for the little bit of a drought.
I've had a thought, flames had a thought would where will it
happen? I think this is inevitable.
I think I might have just arrived at the future of
marathons capacity. We've reached it, right?
Most of these marathons we've we've gone through it with the
Gold Coast Marathon about the width of the roads and the what
is it? Crowd dynamic, crowd fluid
dynamics or whatever it was about.
Essentially roads can only allow so many participants.
I'm going to give you a wrestling example.
Do you know what they did at what's the big wrestling,
wrestling summer slam? No, what's their?
What's the biggest wrestling? Event like W World Wrestling.
Yeah, what's their big event called?
What's their that was out in Australia just a while ago.
The series they run. He's talking about entertainment
wrestling. Yeah, WWE.
Yeah, main event. What's the main event called?
Rule WrestleMania is what I'm thinking of, sorry.
So many Survivor Series. WrestleMania is what I'm
thinking of. Little bit of background.
WrestleMania, for those not aware, it is the Super Bowl of
wrestling. It's the big event that they
bill to every year. It's a major marathon, right?
And what's happened in the last couple of years is it got so big
and there was so much money to be made, they made it a 2 day
event. Would you Courtney run New York
Marathon on day 2? Yes.
If day one sold out, would you sign up to day 2?
Yeah, I can't see there being. Why wouldn't a major marathon?
Do a double day. Run it back to back.
It's a good question. I mean, if they can afford to
shut the city down for two days, that's the question.
I'm I've run London. It's a.
It's a.
If you got to the point like how many it's.
Proactive thinking. What were the numbers there
around Sydney Marathon 123,000 runners entered and what's the
capacity? I'm just.
Going to take a stab at what do they have in the marathon last
year 40. Sydney Manager Marathon.
I'm doing a quick Google here to find out how many people ran it.
3035 thousand participants, right?
So there is, there are on those numbers still 88,000 runners
that want to be there. So you say do it.
You could. Fill that race again, yeah.
OK, but this then becomes, and this happens to all sports in
this place. You do that, then does the
demand fall off? Because when you can't, it might
work for a year, but when you can't have something and when
you can't get something, you want it more.
Agree. So if you miss out, if you keep
it limited to that one day, it makes it so much more special.
You're in. If everyone gets to do it, it
clears them all out. In a year, it's over.
It will eventually come and go. The trend, I mean, it's not
running is not going to go, but it will eventually.
This trend, this you know, the need for everyone to be running
will slow down. I agree.
If you put in more events, does it slow it down quicker?
You'll just slow it down quicker.
I. Or you think, or you think
you've got to strike while the iron's high and.
Just give us, I'm just thinking because I, I'm imagining and for
for lack of a better example, let's use Sydney.
Well, no, you know what? Let's use the Gold Coast.
It's our local race. Yep, it runs on the Sunday.
But if I was a runner desperate to run the Gold Coast and I'd
missed out and they said to me, we're actually going to run a
second day, but would you? I would still run it.
I'm imagining that you could actually almost develop the
this, the two days, the two races into their own.
They they almost developed their own unique identity.
Well, it's a good question because I mean, they do run two
days, but they just run it as 1/2 and A10.
And a half and A10 all the. Rest people, but if the demand's
strong enough just for marathoning.
Yeah, and Gold Coast is probably not the right example because
they have all those things the day before.
But Sydney is the right example you hit.
I mean, here's the start, right? They could easily fill two days
here. Easily fill a second full
marathon and if you create the Saturday race and the Sunday
race, you know it's a bit like Oasis, right?
As we record this, This weekend I'm going to be down in Sydney,
going to see Oasis. Now Oasis is playing two shows
because the demand is there to see Oasis.
Sure, they're not going to be back here same time next year.
It's a bit different from a marathon, but there was enough
demand to satisfy 2 full shows in Sydney.
There's enough demand to satisfy 2 full marathons in Sydney.
Run a second one the day before. It's a great idea anyway.
Another. Another.
As it I've just had a thought some.
Some of them I'll, I'll shut down pretty quick, but this one,
I, I agree with you. I mean, there's no reason why
not, and a lot of people have missed out here.
That's an that's 88,000 people or thereabouts that have missed
out. That's an that's a that's a
that's a grand final MC that's an MCG full of people.
It also. Just shows what a success this
year. It's having the major like it
all, you know? Yeah, long term thinking to get
it there. Yeah.
You know, congratulations to the Sydney, you know, everyone
involved in the whole Sydney Marathon because, you know, it's
worked and proof's now in the pudding.
It hasn't just worked, it's bloody smashed it.
It's. Absolutely smashed it.
So well done. You mentioned him a bit earlier
on in the show, but can we give a shout out to Ty Dalker?
Yes, for those, this is great. This is great.
So again, if you're new to the podcast, welcome.
And if you haven't caught up with our love of the Clydesdale
category back story, it's basically the 100K plus category
of the Noosa Triathlon. We love it.
We think it's fantastic. Jelly Roll friend of the show
has put his hand up and said I'm a Clydesdale.
He's 100 plus kilo runner. The whole conversation you and I
have had about this is that this is not body shaming, It's not
negative, it's not shouting from the rooftops and trying to
highlight a deficiency of people.
It's celebrating that humans come in all shapes and sizes.
Well, here's the best example. Sam Collins, Gold Coast Suns
back defender. He heard us chatting about on
the Jelly roll and that and then reached out to Noosa try and
said hey, I'm a Clydesdale, change my can I?
Can I race this one? Yeah.
Oh fantastic. And I mean you wouldn't by any
means so. Collins is just a.
He's a big fella. Chisel do big fella.
I did also see Justin, who we Justin waved we had in here.
He I put the video up for those who saw it on Instagram over the
weekend. But he weighed in at 93 KG and
we said, you know, Boo. But the big fella who weighed in
behind him was 136. Now that's a Clyde style and he.
Was giving him a flog and. Now he was.
Ripping into him, saying lightweight, lightweight.
But this is great and this is what we love about it.
It is a celebration that athletes come in all shapes and
sizes and again we want everybody to get out and amongst
that so. Ty's gone and done this.
He's he's listened to the, he's listened to the.
Core now Ty is the is the race director of the barely swim run
event, which I did last year. And it's a it's a fantastic
event. It really is.
And Ty off the back of listening to the chats has introduced for
the first time the over the century Club Challenge.
So it's 100K plus. It's a specific group for the
100K plus athletes, the over the century club challenge, the 400
metre ocean swim and the 4K beach run.
It's the same distance as every as as the other athletes run.
Yeah, but it just means you get to race in your own category and
an opportunity to, you know, celebrate and and and finish.
See how you compare against other big units.
It's great. I love it and I love the name.
Over the century club. We, we that, that's a name we
haven't come up with. That's a good one.
That's a great name. Now that's always on Australia
Day, isn't it? If you're looking at it, yeah,
it's the same one. If you want to get involved in
belly swim run, I think it is the Australia Day weekend in the
Gold Coast and couldn't recommend enough.
I raced it last year and as someone who struggles in the
ocean, the fact that I then got to run past all those good
swimmers who don't run as well on the way afterwards was a lot
of fun. So yeah, go and get involved in
that Barely Swim Run event organised by Ty Dark, a friend
of the show. The quickly.
We should touch on Noosa because it's now one week behind us.
Friend of the show Matt Hauser. Yeah, just keeps adding to the
CV. Yep, we had him in Chad and to
him I'd already pencilled him in.
You. You did.
You locked it. Should have just printed it.
You should have just printed. It he didn't get me like he in
the end, he still came in nice and easy and won it.
But it was the fellow behind him, Reed.
He was moving really well. The difference was, it's
interesting when you look at running styles and you had Matt.
Matt's just so strong and he ended up running.
I think he still ended up running 20 seconds quicker than
second place, but if you looked at the cadence of second
compared to Matt you would swear he was catching him.
Really. Yeah, he was just.
Churning over it looked like he was running so much quicker.
But you know, that's where obviously efficiency are running
and it can be so deceiving, especially on the side on, you
know, when the camera is on a bike on the side on angle.
And Matt's just like his cadence is just a little bit slower.
He's obviously like just getting across the ground that much
stronger and and more efficient. And yeah, in the end he just, he
got his guns out. It was actually the new
celebration too. The belt.
I hadn't seen the belt before. He did.
He wrapped the belt around got. To be his world, Chance Belt's
got got some holsters in it. Give us a talk to us about Noosa
because I didn't get to go this year unfortunately, but I want
to know more specifically about how you went in the Legends race
on the Saturday. We missed you.
I know we missed. You, It's always such a good
crowd. Now, who did I race with?
I had, I had Reedy. No.
Yes, Bondi pod. Yeah, Bondi rescue Reedy, Andrew
Reed I had doing my swim. Yeah, and who ran for?
You and then I had Emma Carney, so she's still the record holder
of the Noosa Triathlon women's race.
Of the women's race. Yeah, I think she well.
And what did? You take a stab, it must be 3020
something, 30 years. She's held the record.
I'm. Assuming you won.
No, absolutely not. Do you know why they put me on
the bike? Oh, OK.
I think they had this expectation that I was a good
rider. So those who have listened in
long enough now understand that I haven't ridden on the road in
a long time. I ride my bike.
I ride motorbikes. Yeah, mountain bikes.
Every bike I ride has dual suspension on it.
I got my six year vintage Joy. What is it a giant TCR or
something? The last row bike I was ever
given weighs a feather too, by the way.
And I put some new tyres on it. OK, because the rubber on the
old ones was just, it's literally glue, new tyres, new
chain. And I went out for the Garth
Proud 30K ride on the Thursday morning.
It was great. Yeah, so amazing.
Got out with a few crew. We rode up to the top of the
hill and back. So that's, yeah, it was an hour
or whatever out there. My bike felt like a shopping
trolley. Oh.
Really. So anyone out there right?
Now. When you, you know, when you
you're watching a triathlon or watching someone on a bike
clipped in for the first time, I feel your pain.
I feel your pain. I wouldn't have thought.
Yeah. But you know, like last time I
got on road bike, it was like, you know, they they just jumping
back on the. Yeah.
I mean, you're back on the horse.
It's all the same. Yeah.
I can tell you after six years, No, it isn't.
OK. It was skatey, but I did that
skatey, skatey, Skatey is the best to describe anyway, you
know, you know who ended up giving me a good wind block was
our big Clydesdale, Sam Collins. Oh, yeah.
He was in one of the competing teams, pushed hard.
Hey, I came up on the back of him at one stage and just went,
oh, here we go. Like, well, I did see that Sam's
teammate took Miller, his team took it out.
Sons beat and he was racing against now.
Oh I forgot, I don't know who the 2nd place was but he was a
Young Lions fella. Ty Gallup, tall fella.
No, the Tour for he, I think he rode.
It's another another young guy there.
I saw that Ty was up there, was the premiership player this year
with the Lions, but I didn't see the other member.
Hey. Here's one for you.
Took it just going left field here.
If you played AFL in the comp would you think you'd know every
player? Oh, and I.
No, because there are some players on list that have never
seen the light of day. And I don't mean that in a nasty
way. I just mean that reality is some
players, if you haven't made your debut and perhaps you've
been added through the rookie rookie draught or the pre season
supplementary period, you might not be across.
Well look, put it that way, if you're a brand new player in the
comp or even if more to the point, it's probably the other
end of the scale. Let's use Jared Witts as an
example. Jared Witts, Gold Coast Sons
ruckman, been in the competition long time.
I would not expect him to be across every player that's just
been added in the most racing draught.
Yeah, see that is the case. I was also running with Brad
Hill this morning. Since they killed her.
Yep. Former hobby.
Yeah, Bobby Hill's cousin. Cousin.
Yeah. Family's high.
Former Docker can run, by the way.
Good run, actually. Excellent runner.
Talking about runners. He can run.
Yeah. Where are we running with him at
Pizzi? No, we were down at the Spit
this ground with Gold Coast Run Car, and he's up here on
holidays at the moment. So he dropped in and had a bit
of a yes, chatting away. I think you wouldn't even know.
And he was a not a run on foot of the group.
Yeah, he's cruising. But I asked the same question to
him because it's surprising. I just would have thought there
ain't that many teams in the league and you're playing a team
of, you know, what is it, 50? 18 on the field at a time with
four on the bench. There you go.
Thank you. Our commentator across.
There's not that many guys you've got already, you know, if
they bring in, you know, 10 to 12 new fellas each year.
Yep, well, there's 40 players on the list.
OK, so. There's 40 players saying the
ones. That drop in and out are the
ones that they may not be across, I would have just
thought. 720. If you're on the field, you
should know the other points. There's almost 700, there's
probably at any one time 700 AFL listed players.
Now to your point. Is that is that the right stat?
Well, there's eighteen teams and there's 40.
There's a maximum of 40 spots on the list, so I'm.
Going to check your you're right seven spots.
That's a lot of bloody play. There's a.
Lot of players. I apologise, I apologise Whitsey
and everyone. Yeah, it's not as simple.
Now, if you go up against, I would have thought that Whitsey
and those fellas, for the most part, when they go to take on an
opposition, they'll be familiar with at least 20 of the players
on their team. But if someone's making their
like Ben Jepsen, for example, young Ben Jepsen, who's, you
know, come through the system the hard way, got his chance,
made his debut, I don't think Ben would have expected people
in the opposition to know who he was when he made his I'm.
Blown away this 700. Just when you say that, that's a
lot of players. Yes, a lot of players.
There's a lot of opportunity. Yeah, or, but that's why I think
the average AFL career is, you know, maybe 70 games or
something. But I can.
See why? I can see why if you're a young
fella playing, you know, you're a young fella, you're good at
riding. You're let's just say you're
riding a bike. Yeah, there's there currently
there's a, there's AI, don't know his name, but there's a, a
guy obviously playing AFL at a really high junior level.
Also I think believe he's the world BMX champion and a few
other things. Oh, wow.
He, I mean, I can see why you make a decision one way or the
other, right? The opportunity in AFL, yeah,
massive, especially when you've got that many.
Well, on the average, the I think the average AFL salary
these days, and again I'm not looking this up, I think it's in
excess of 300 grand a year. That's the average, though.
Average not not the first. Year is no, no, no, no, no, no
300 just quickly on Noosa. I'm glad to hear it.
I'm glad to hear it was another fantastic year, another success.
This did come across. I've been said this a couple of
times by different people, that there was a bit of a Barney at
the finish line, right? An old fella and a young fella.
And if you haven't seen the rear we might try and add it.
But basically this old fella appears to come across the line.
It looks as though the young fella's waiting for him.
And as the old fella clearly knackered at the end of the
Olympic distance triathlon, the young fella approaches him.
And the old fella gives him a really decent shove and sort of
gets up into his grill and with a bit of argy bargy and I don't
know, and there's all this chat about, you know, what's happened
and all the rest of it. But, you know, it's the first of
that sort of thing I've ever seen at the finish line of a
triathlon. Especially the age difference.
Yeah, it was. I don't know clearly.
I mean if it was if. It was 2 elites in the race
coming in and you know, 1's. Having words about tactics.
And like drafting or having a go at each other?
No, I think I can understand. These were like 3 hour athletes.
And and one. One's gone up and given the
other one a decent, the old. What?
What are we talking 60 year old? Yeah, he looks like he's
probably 60, and the young fellow looks like he's under 20.
Yeah. So Louis.
Yeah, it. Was unless it's a father of son,
there was a you know, the the rivalry is hot.
But how's this story? I did want to share, and I think
the woman's name is Lynn Bellum. Or Bellum.
This is heartbreaking. She turned up at a triathlon
transition on race morning and someone's nicked their wheel, so
she's got to a bike. In transition, that's about as
low as she can go. And somebody has taken her front
wheel from her bike. I really hope that was a mistake
and someone unmistakenly, I really hope someone said, hey,
go, my bike is here, this is the bike.
And if you want to borrow the wheel for the team event or
something, go grab it. I'm not racing or something.
That's what I hope. But what it sounds like is
someone's had a flat in the transition and they've wanted to
really race and they've gone over and grabbed it.
Oh no, I really. Hope that's not the case.
I mean, what? What other purpose would you be
to nick a front? Wheel, I don't know, it's a very
and I guess to that point, it's a very, yeah, It's such a
strange thing to pinch when you've got all these other bikes
around. As well.
Why? Why that, you know, I don't know
if there's a resale market for old triathlon bike wheels, but
yeah, my, I, I was gutted. For well, it's happening before,
like obviously she's rocked up at a bike, so it's not like
someone at the end of the race has just decided I, I want a
spare wheel and walked out with it.
Well, no, it sounds like she's got in there before the swim.
That's what I mean, like transition there that morning.
So that was morning, Yeah, that morning before she's even begun
her race. So I, and again, I like I've
always, I've been in the I've been in the attitude and the
environment of I, I don't often race and I know it's the wrong
thing to do, but I don't race my new triathlon with a pump and
spares. I'm like, my attitude is, is if
I get a puncture or I get a flat, I'm not meant to finish
the race this year. I'm not going to bother pulling
over and repairing it. But I'm, I just, I saw that and
I was gutted for it, but it's just A and the poor thing, like
she would have been prepped and ready and excited to race this
new triathlon. I don't know if she's done it
before, but you don't even get to start your race because I'm
big head that's taking your wheel.
I mean in what's the bike lot? Have you got the picture?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it an?
Older bike, it's your bike, so it's like a, you know, that'd be
a good 10 year. It's not that bike on the second
hand market is this old Sevillo P3.
It's gonna go for 2 1/2 grand if you're lucky.
If you're lucky. OK, so there's bikes in there
worth 2025. Like, hey, if you're gonna nick
a wheel, Nick, a decent one. Yeah.
Nick. Hey, talking about bikes.
So just in the quick stack, because you got me thinking then
I was wondering what type of bike it is.
Even if we sit on average the bikes in there, like an average
bike in there was $3000. Yep, and I actually would go.
I saw your story, I think this would be.
Low balling. I saw your story because.
I I4 wheel know there's bikes in there that are 20 with with a
disc and the right front wheel on are 25 grand bikes in there
on the on the top end of the scale on the bottom end of the
scale there would be if I put my bike in there or they're older
bikes, they're going to be 2002 and a half $1000 bikes in there.
If we call it at 300 grand. Have a guess how much money's
worth in that transition? 8000 compared 8000 bikes in
there. Well, you do the maths quickly.
Three times out. So 2240 thousand dollars. 24 I
went to mil. What dollars?
Jeez, my maths is terrible. 2.4 million.
I know 24. That can't be right. 8000 * 3
thousand $24 million worth of bikes sitting in there.
I wasn't wrong. Yeah, you're not wrong if.
You're a thief and you want to make some coin now?
They have good security there. $24 million worth of bikes in
there. Wow.
And that's cons. I know.
I'm thinking that's really conservative.
Yeah, because. I think the clientele that news
had get there well, 3000 first timers.
So we're going to say their bikes have, you know, maybe on
the lower end, but I'm sure some of them have laid out bikes like
it's not hard to spend 4 1/2 five grand on a bike these days.
No, if you put put decent set of wheels on there, he's suddenly
up around 7-8 and then you know all of those others who have
been doing it for years and probably stocked up a little bit
of Kitty. And then and then $2.4 million
worth of carbon fibre shoes running around too.
Yeah, that's 300 bucks a pop 8000 people running around in in
$300 shoes. That's a lot of carbon.
You know what you know, you know how 6 each year do the the
Noosa. What was their Noosa shoe?
This. You shouldn't.
I Oh. The triathlon shoe, Yeah, they
normally have the. Noosa ASICS?
I wonder how many they sell. I would love to know the stat.
I've bought a pair of those before.
We'd never get the stat, but I'd love to know the stat of what?
The stat of what they actually. Sell how many of those model
they? Sell thing.
Anyway, Noosa and over, you don't like it?
No, that's 2016. OK, overall, Noosa looked like
another tremendous success. We should give a big shout out
while we're here to James Tobin from Sunrise.
Yeah, who had you on for a cross?
Yeah, we did a. Little bit about the Potter and
Jelly Roll and and Noosa and Noosa, of course.
Yeah, of course. But it's good to see JT, yeah.
One of the great, one of the great men.
Now he did. One, because obviously his
lovely wife is the one who. Farrah is the one who debunked
my Your lungs are a toilet theory.
But then I'm also. I always thought you claimed to
have introduced them. No?
Oh. No ready.
Introduce them all right, same run.
Oh well, I was throwing you under the bus.
I'm going, Williams told me. Always.
That he is no no no, same run club.
I thought he might have really owed your favour.
No, no, no, same run club. But that run club of ours in
Sydney is true evidence of dating being the new run club
which I need to talk about. Do you want to see which?
I said to Jade. I said we could just have a
conversation on that because it sounds like it is a run club
that has created a whole range. Of relationships.
Yeah, it really has. Well we used to joke that there
were only two ways to get into the run club. 1 was to run a
qualifying time around the golf course in Sydney, 2 laps about 8
KS you had to run sub 415 pace and the other one was to sleep
with an existing member. Thankfully those rules came into
effect after I joined because I wasn't confident of making the
time and my wife wouldn't have been happy.
As a way to get into the run club.
Run club dating. I have AI have a mind blowing
development. I've been with my wife for a
long time. I was with Alana before Tinder
arrived. I've never been on Tinder, but
Courtney, I can tell you and the in the beginning family right
now that you're getting on Tinder.
I am being I am being used wait for it as Tinder bait.
Annie, who's one of the producers at the radio station
on CFM, not on Triple M go came up to me the other morning and
said you are. Do you know how much I'm talking
about you on Tinder? I was like, what are you talking
about? Apparently Annie's obviously
looking for obviously a part of her philtre settings.
Whatever you do on Tinder is attracting a lot of runners.
And when she starts to chat back and forthing and she says she
works in radio, she's told me she's had six different people
say, oh, do you know that guy Liam?
I listened to his podcast. Really.
Listen to his. I listen to his running.
Podcast forget Jelly roll once you're talking about randoms on
Tinder. We know.
So we are now this podcast. No, no, no, not we, no no you
podcast. This podcast is now in the
Tinder universe. I do not want to be associated
with the healing. It is hard, the radio guy.
Courtney, we are. We are in the Tinder podcast.
No, because they're not. They're not bringing me up as
the radio host. I'm being brought up as the
running podcast host and great, getting great feedback.
Yeah, getting great reviews. So I've actually organised it.
So if anybody out there is listening to this and if you've
matched with Annie, she's great and I'm happy to come along as a
third wheel on your first day. For a run.
Yeah, for Annie, or if you want to go for it or Annie doesn't
run, she's not interested. In running, no, she doesn't run.
So how's the Philtre getting runners?
Well, she, I don't know, maybe she's just.
I can say like. Yeah, she, she works in
Broadbeach. A lot of runners around
Broadbeach, you know, I don't know.
But yeah, I, I I loved it. I thought we really made it.
Nothing. Nothing is, well, everything is
surprising me in the last two weeks, Liam, like.
It's like didn't expect to be from Matt Howser sitting down
with us to Jelly Roll. And now we are in the Tinder
universe, Courtney. Yep, what's what?
What's next week gonna hold? I quickly can I jump back to
actual proper running for a moment?
Elliot Kipchoge's latest adventure, have you seen?
I saw a little bit of this but I didn't quite understand.
He wants to run in every continent.
Yes. So Elliot is obviously, he's
clearly tipped over that elite threshold not no, that's not
fair. He's but he's clearly not a
threat at the pointy end of the best races in the world anymore.
We saw that in Sydney. We saw that over the weekend,
but now he is the thrill of adventure and, and, and
continuing to run these marathons.
I think it's a place he wants to.
So he's running New York, which means now he has the seven star
award, I believe, which means he's run every major marathon.
So Tokyo, Boston, London, Sydney, Berlin, Chicago, New
York. So he's run the seven, but now
he wants to run in Antarctic, he wants to run a marathon in every
continent. Oh wow.
I mean, it's a big one if you you're in those races or around
those places. How do you reckon Eli Kipchugo
would go? In an Antarctic marathon, he'd
just throw his clothes on and go.
I'm tipping the guy can run anywhere.
You know what I love about that story is it's so nice to see.
I reckon he must just love running.
You know, I talk often about longevity often comes from the
love of doing stuff like he's obviously the, you know, being
the greatest in the world and everything else.
But he, you know, the love of running he talks about and
that's what he still wants to do.
And the fact he hasn't just gone out and like had to retire, like
hard, put a hard line in the sand and go, I'm retired, you
know, I'm done. He's comfortable just going off
and, and you know, and going off and you know, even running
around you talked about in Sydney when he's running around
and still waving at the crowd when he's running in 5th, 4th or
whatever it was. He is an amazing fella.
He. Just wants to spread the message
he talks about. He's like, I want to continue to
spread the joy of running around the world and the fact that as
that's an interesting because when you retired that it's an
interesting. I never retired.
OK, interesting. So Ellie Kipchoge in a lot of
sports, in football, obviously it's a different set up.
You, you, these athletes retire. They say I'm retiring from
football, or I'm retiring from tennis, or I'm retiring from
swimming. Why did you Why did you never
retire or feel the need to? Well, the question is I I
actually asked more. The other question is why do why
do people feel the need to say I'm retiring?
That would be the question I'd actually throw back like this
thing of I'm retire, like I'm retiring.
I mean, yes, you're stopping doing what you may have done for
that period of time, but the hard line of I'm retiring even
you're not, you're going to go on and do.
Well, I guess you're going to go and do other things.
I guess the retirement infers this is the end of this being my
profession. From a footballing perspective,
you retire when you're when you choose or the club chooses to.
No long no. Clubs will no longer pay you.
No, I get it. I mean, I get it, you're
retiring, but to me, to me, retirement infers like I'm going
off on my super and then moving, moving to Harvey Bay and I'm
done. Yeah, literally like I I am
done. I am that like to me, retirement
is why I I'm fine with. Hey, I'm I'm no longer going to
run marathons. Yeah, that's all good.
The the reason this came up on the weekend because there was a
few, there was a couple of triathletes who retired and.
Aaron Royal. Aaron Royal and Braden Curry
also retired from Iron Man. OK, see, now that makes more
sense. It's I've got the issue I've got
is the word retirement. I'm no longer going to raise
Iron Man 100%, but you know, retirement.
I want to see people the and the reason I'm not I'm not being
there's no like vindictiveness in this.
It's like I want to see. I think you should have a love
for the sport and be comfortable to go off then and do other
things because often where the retirement element comes into
it, it's like then, OK, now it's that, then what's next?
I see what you're saying. I just like athletes who have
done a sport long enough and there's a love there.
And this is where we're talking about.
Yeah, running. So the Oxford Dictionary defines
retirement as the action or fact of leaving one's job and ceasing
to work. So I guess from the pers that
lens if. Pat Rafter wants to retire.
Yeah, I mean, he's coined No Stress.
Sorry, have you? You know what Pat's doing?
Adele. Whatever you want to call these
bloody I. Did see that.
I did see that. Yeah, Pat's going to.
He's representing Australia at the at the Paddle Cup in Doha.
He's he's going. We should we?
I'd love to talk to Patty about that.
But yeah, Pat's back on the court.
He's unretired. He's unretired.
He's unretired to to go back to running and keep Joe Gay.
This is he's not the fastest marathon runner in the world
anymore, but he's still the go. And this love of running, this
continued passion and chase and pursuit of running adventure and
spreading that message is why he it'll it'll be difficult to
surpass him as the GOAT, even if someone ends up running faster
because I think someone someone's already beaten his
time. It'll be tough to beat this
man's love of the act of. Running.
So here's a question came out this morning as well.
Does Sydney Marathon have the same effect when you don't have
him and Safan there? Who replaces him?
Yeah. I don't think you can feel.
I don't think it's a like for like.
I think it's. I think you'll need to fill that
hole with more than one thing. You won't be able to.
You can't, you just can't. You can't replace the shoes of
you can't feel the shoes of Elia Kipchuga with one single person.
Now that's where the task is on the City Marathon organisers to
find other ways to generate noise and excitement and
everything else that comes with it.
Hopefully Hassan is back running again, defending her title next
year. You would think she would be
maybe defending. If it's a title up for the
defence, you'd defend it maybe. Or maybe she ticks it off.
Maybe it depends on the money. Maybe it depends on what cash is
on offer, but they need to find other ways to fill the gap that
will be left by I. Think they Joker.
I think if they could bring her back out again, that would be a
big motion. Huge and and they should they
should chase her heart and they should pay her what she's worth.
Yeah, because she deserves it. And maybe then introduce a
second day of marathoning like some great minds of thought you.
Never know Liam they made. Recently, but yeah, big shout
out to Lib Kochoko. I love the fact that he's he's
continuing to run and I'd hey, if you need some people to come
and support run with you in Antarctica.
I know a couple of blokes on a podcast that's getting big on
Tinder. Just quickly on on Elliott
because I saw this. Did you see Diplo?
Yep, I sent it to you. Yeah, sorry, you did send it to
me. Diplo and Elliott, Yep.
Best mates. Yep.
In the running world. Must have seen us talking to
Jelly and thought this would be a good idea.
So Diplo again, if people don't know Diplo is he's a DJ.
Yeah, and he's been bringing in some massive numbers for his run
club. What he's got now on Instagram
alone, I think he's Diplo's run clubs at 117,000.
People, yeah, but forget. I mean, online's one thing, but
it's actually in real life. Well, yeah, he's doing.
He's doing these runs. I mean that anything in real
life is way. Way more.
Important.
It's all, it's all right to put it out there on socials.
And, you know, I do this, I do that.
But the reality is if you, yeah, if, if you can do it in real
life and that's what you're, you're going out there to do,
it's going to be way, way more effective.
And he's doing that. Same with Travis Barker.
Give him a shout. Blink One O 2 drummer.
He's, he's doing the same thing. He's out there actually bringing
people in real life together and, and you know, making them
part of his journey around running as well.
So. So Diplo's run club, the 5K run
and rave that he's been hosting, he's done Philly, Seattle, San
Fran, LA, New York was a sellout, San Diego, Miami,
Phoenix. So this is this is another
example of that next evolution of running that we talked about.
We've seen other people try versions of this to varying
degrees of success, but when somebody like Diplo is prepared
to put himself out in front the centre of something like that.
Who in Australia, Who in out of? It doesn't have to be a new
musician. Who would you want to go to?
Who's run club, run club in Australia?
There's a good question. Anyone listening as well have a
think. Let us know subscribe if you
haven't subscribed yet while Liam's thinking.
It's a tough, it's a tough, it's tough sledding when it, if
you're relying on the power of an individual like that is a,
it's a big, it's a big test of your celebrity.
If you as an individual are asking people to come out and
run with you. We've seen Ned try and Ned off
the back of his mouth of his back running Australia.
His Neds milk run thing was huge.
Neds runs were massive. What about But there was no
party after Neds run. It was kind of anything in the
morning, then disappear into the.
Day I'm not putting anyone into an event at the moment, just
saying who would you want? You know, if you could have a
run club with anyone, because I mean, I mean you, you talked
about the Hello Sport boys and the success of their run.
Club. They've had another little trot,
the Goers Run Club in North Sydney.
They went out of Manly the other day.
Yep. So you know, you don't have to
be in the industry, I suppose for running you.
Have you got someone? He might.
If Buddy Franklin started a run club here on the Goldie, I'd run
with Buddy. I'd love to.
This is an interesting dynamic comparison with you and I and we
saw it in play with Jelly Roll. Because I don't know if like I
would be. For me as having never been a
professional athlete, the opportunity to run alongside
professionals, athletes is excites me.
That opportunity to see them doing what they do, which is why
I always consider it a privilege when you and I run together.
Not that we've done that much lately.
So the idea of footballers, tennis players, swimmers,
whatever they might be, like that legends race at Noosa for
me, I have no right to be there and yet I've got to be in a team
with Beth McKenzie and Kai Hearst and Richie Poor and like
I've got to be in a race with these legends of.
Sport. Well, even on the weekend I was
riding in a in a Congo line with Kai Hearst, Sam Collins, Will
Davis and the driver and I was drafting off the ball.
So those those athletes, for me, that's what I love.
So it's probably more a case of like as an example, if Alex
Rigby ever said to me, hey mate, always got a run session, do you
want to come out and do a do a pre season run session with the
Suns? That for me would be Oh yes,
please let's go. I'd love to experience.
This we can organise that you don't need Ally.
He's a high performance manager, you know, but that that for me.
So individuals who are celebrity wise, I don't know, that's a
tough one. Do you have someone in mind that
you would go out and oh, having said that old mate from the
Offspring? Yep, Who runs his?
Look, if Travis Barker, all these guys came out.
Yeah, I don't know. I have no idea why this just
came to mind. Oh, here we go.
No idea. Do you know who just came to
mind? The Vice President of the United
States. JD you'd run with JD Vance?
What? Why that came to my mind, just
saying, does he run? I don't know.
I'm not not Australian either. I have not Australian either.
Hey, talking about real random, yes.
What do you mean? I'm going to go off on the
tangent. This is good.
When you get a message from someone you haven't heard in for
about 15 years, you see a name and you go they're still in your
contacts. Yep.
And then you think, damn, why are they contact?
You know, there's never been any contact in 15 years.
It might have been a business associate.
It might have been, you know, at the time, the right circle, the
right friend. But what comes to mind when you
get a message after 15 years? Of that's what they're asking.
Well, that no, but you don't know what that Oh.
You don't know what they're asking, you just.
See a name? Oh, it's just happened to me.
It's just happened to you. Who it is.
I'm going to call it who it is, but it's just happened to me on
air. It wasn't Jelly Roll.
It wasn't as good as yours. Can we play this game?
You don't have to say their
name. No.
So the questions are, are they reaching out because they've
just thought of you randomly and they want to check how you are?
Your dog, all he is just he's coming in the studio and he's
having a scratch on my back. OK, so the options are they're
they're randomly reaching out because they want to know how
you are, It's a mistake or they want something.
Yeah, mine normally goes to the third.
My my guess is they want something, but I would also say
that we are we've now moved into a time where I feel like people
check in more than they used to because the mental health
conversation in our world is has grown and improved and matured.
Maybe, maybe I think seeing you somewhere and it's rejogged a
memory. That's right, I haven't.
Spoken. I think they want something.
Yeah. Can you check?
You don't have to say what they want.
This is someone who Courtney reckons hasn't heard from for 15
years. They want something.
Can you come to this for me? Excellent.
And this is going. To be nice, excellent,
excellent, very good. All right and on that note, we
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