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In the beginning, episode 60, 
Connor, we've made 60 episodes. 

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We have Liam Flynn. 
Congratulations to you. 

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How are you? 
I'm good another day. 

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Another day feels like a 
lifetime since I've seen you. 

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Another day running. 
Let's. 

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Well, let's start there. 
Are you running? 

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I'm running. 
You running? 

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Yeah. 
I was down this morning, had a. 

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How you feeling? 
I'm moving along all this 

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strength work I'm doing in the 
gym, you know, getting myself 

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really sorted out, loving 
lifting at the moment. 

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But Oh no, no, no, we're not 
going there. 

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What are you lifting? 
No intention of OK, no intention

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of where you think this is 
going. 

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You're not getting into 100%, 
not going anywhere near that. 

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But. 
Talk us through. 

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Talk us through Courtney 
Atkinson's lifting regime for 

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running right now. 
But with it's just, it's just 

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rehab. 
I've just been really focused in

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the gym, right, and then just 
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bit. 
So just making sure that I can 

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absorb that gym work. 
That means running's being 

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really free at the moment, but 
not doing anything too, too 

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structured getting out there and
running. 

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But what I also am doing is 
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and I'm absolutely enjoying 
that. 

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We did World League. 
What is it this week? 

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I was out on a Monday morning. 
We've got a great crew bit a few

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footy players toy. 
Daku runs the the saltwater swim

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on Wednesday, Yes, down at Tully
Creek and we pretty much do the 

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old school world champs of who 
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and then all bust our way out 
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And you know what? 
Holding your breath and trying 

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to do that is one of the more 
challenging kind of sessions you

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can get to. 
So you you're putting in a bit 

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of swim in a bit of holding your
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after it. 
It's a good morning. 

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What do they call that? 
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of squad swimming sessions I've 
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What do they call that type of 
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underwater for as far as you can
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It's or. 
It's not a certain type of 

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breath. 
Breath. 

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Hold it might be breath hold or 
breath work, I'm sure. 

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Certain swim coaches have got a 
certain, you know. 

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The benefit of that though, 
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I'll swimming next to, Yeah, one
of, I mean, one of our best ever

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Iron Woman, Carla Gilbert was 
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day and she was still telling me
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the surf was reasonable. 
And I'd go under and I'd try and

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come up and then she'd just pop 
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in front of me. 
I'm like. 

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Quick question about your gym 
work and easing off the running.

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I was at the gym this week as 
well and Wade was talking about 

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the importance of deloading 
weeks in that. 

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Can you talk a bit about from 
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Because Wade's was talking 
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his is a gym and a structure and
a programme where it's very much

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designed for people to be 
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can lift, right? 
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And he was talking about that 
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It's not you can't. 
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constant imprisonment. 
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periodization of anything, 
right? 

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Did you be running? 
Swimming? 

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And how much did you focus on 
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would you take a D load week in 
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your peak? 
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do. 
So you literally you, you just 

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like when the coach said. 
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that's why you'd work with a 
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as to when the IT was, I think 
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more so around when I was racing
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And I know that, you know, both 
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boys are doing a lot and girls 
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moment. 
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important part of their the 
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around coming into your races, 
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And how do you attack that if 
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So, you know, do you reduce the 
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How, how close to the race do 
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weights? 
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Well, what I found is at the 
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great to me, it always felt like
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So sometimes so stretch 
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So having lifting for not the 
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itself, but to actually make the
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for me a lot. 
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doing after racing as I'd be 
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not the day after we've done a 
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to get back in the gym pretty 
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weight, just to go through that 
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And it's something I definitely 
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past, maybe, you know, 6-7 years
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lot of these things when we've 
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having a lot more fun. 
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don't need any more of that 
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You know, I'm out here in the 
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bit more free. 
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the reality is as you get older 
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that strength is really the core
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On that's really, I don't think 
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that. 
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in 59 episodes already, but I 
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on the idea of weights and that 
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part of recovery. 
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the cold, hot and cold plunges 
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everything else, but the idea of
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underweight. 
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expertise in in how they'd I 
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But even you think about going 
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players as an example. 
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know, probably the day before 
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do certain lifts to make them 
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a strength element onto the 
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And we could probably it's, it's
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anything else or diets. 
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know, 100 different coaches and 
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different way, but there's 
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around activation of weight and 
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the running, yeah. 
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conversation to get someone in 
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structure like you were talking 
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actually specifically come in 
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and doing you know certain 
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your performance specifically 
for a race environment. 

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OK, that's interesting. 
Let's stay with. 

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This was a bit further down the 
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throw it at the top now because 
anybody who is on Strava and has

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managed to either find 
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you're just a great runner, or 
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yourself a little run segment on
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Now crowns, for those that don't
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comes to say that you are the 
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segment on Strava. 
Courtney Atkinson, I know you 

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have crowns. 
Do you, are you aware of your 

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crown status on Strava still 
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Can I go somewhere with this 
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Well, yeah, I feel like we might
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Oh, we're right. 
So you know who took some crowns

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off me? 
No, I don't. 

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I. 
Did see. 

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What location are you thinking? 
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Sunny Coast? 
So what? 

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I'm seeing 1770 no. 
Sorry, that's it. 

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Not not Sunny Coast, 1770. 
Isa, Agnes Water. 

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Patrick Matt Amara, Yep, his his
his activity was called Crown 

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hunting and it had the sub the 
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because and I literally got how 
did you see this? 

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Well, I got a message from 
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I was saying Liam on I'll find 
the the message he said on the 

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next podcast. 
Can you 2 discuss with Courtney 

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getting the OO Strava email. 
So do you still get the 

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notification? 
Well, when someone takes your 

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crown. 
It's funny, I was running this 

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morning, I was half an hour 
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through and yes, you do, You do.
So the Agnes to 770 Van Park and

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back segment, you lost. 
Oh, you did get it. 

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Oh, oh, you lost your course 
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So Patty took it off you and 
took it off you with some some 

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distance too. 
He knocked you off by almost 3 

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minutes or 3 1/2 minutes. 
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What is the segment the? 
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out and back. 70 Agnes 7070, 
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And back. 
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that. 
Road and and Paddy's run it in 

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three at 353 pace and you 
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410 pace, so he's really gone 
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The chase, it's a 54 minute run.
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have gone out and tried to smack
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So there's not you can run along
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So there's a place like a 
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Central QLD. 
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Paddy Patrick, is we actually go
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So if not really right and 
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summer in in the height of 
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the most excruciating runs you 
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just in this, you know, it's 
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What I what I respect about that
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you see, yeah, Paddy's done his 
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yours in the middle of January. 
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conditions. 
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and anybody that's ever lost a 
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Challenge accepted, by the way. 
What anybody that's ever lost a 

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crown, when you see that that 
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all they've done. 
You know, there's people that do

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go out there and actively try to
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So Paddy's done that 13 K 
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run. 
So it's, it's a full day out 

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there for Buddy. 
He's gone out there. 

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That's a big run. 
It's a big run, right? 

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And Paddy's literally travelling
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Is he just collecting Strava 
crowns? 

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Yeah, no, no, he's calling it 
stealing crowns. 

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So right. 
Just be warned if you have 

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anything else in there, he's 
he's. 

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Heading north or? 
He's been running. 

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I think he's on his way back S 
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Oh, OK. 
We might have to hit him up for 

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a run. 
We get involved for a run. 

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He's an ASICS ambassador. 
He's grateful. 

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Patty, that is where I wanted to
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That's. 
Funny that is funny now if you 

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still. 
Got those? 

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Uh oh. 
Every every so often you see 

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them pop up and then yeah, but 
that was a that's a good I. 

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Mean it's a good some. 
Of them are so uninteresting 

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it's like, I don't know, mermaid
waters bus stop to the the 

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bottle or something. 
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that it's a great run. 
I thought maybe Miami Stairs 

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might have had a local legend 
segment to it that if you the 

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other part, if you're not the 
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you can become the local legend 
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No one's given. 
AI ran those stairs 300 times in

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10 days. 
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So if there's if there is a 
segment, apparently I still 

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don't run them enough. 
Did you get sore? 

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No, surprisingly, no. 
That we talked a bit about the 

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impact of those stairs last week
on my predicted time, Garmin 

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predicted times. 
And I can tell you it's a 

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loophole because I went out 
running and I'm nowhere near the

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predicted times. 
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how my legs held up Calves were 
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Bit of tightness through the hip
flexor. 

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flexor stuff. 
It's funny if you, if anybody's 

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has never done much with a what 
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They just a band, the ones you 
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ankles and whatever. 
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work around with your glutes, 
crab walking or or driving your 

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knees up, it's, it becomes 
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got some deficiency or tightness
and wear because you start to 

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get real wobbly. 
It's my right glute. 

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My right glute is is what is 
weak. 

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If you stand on one leg, are you
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Yes, that's the. 
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Fatigues, but is it also 
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I don't know if it's unstable, 
Oppositely unstable. 

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OK, well you answer this 
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calf is the one that's caused 
problems. 

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Right glute, right glute, left 
calf. 

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Yeah, he might be taking more. 
Like I don't want to get called 

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out. 
Here, Oh, but I should say I'm 

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completely run fit at the 
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got no injuries in. 
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elevation. 
Didn't legs are good? 

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Surprising it didn't. 
Nothing got activated. 

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Sore from it, like especially 
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DOMS on the quartz. 
I would have thought I was. 

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Quite I I I wasn't racing down 
the stairs. 

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We were going down and I was 
about to diagnose you and then I

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just realised I'm just going to 
be talking, yeah. 

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Yeah, crap. 
Absolute rubbish. 

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Absolute rubbish. 
Sydney Mara. 

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This is big because we've talked
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running is to the peak. 
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You know, when, when isn't or is
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Is it or is it? 
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And or are we at the top of the 
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This probably suggests no. 
Not there yet. 

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So 123,000 runners entered the 
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perc. 
That was a 56% increase on last 

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year. 
That's. 

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Pretty significant. 
I again, we feel like if you are

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in running and you've been in 
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mindset you probably have is 
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It this marathons are becoming 
so popular shoes. 

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Everything that goes with it 
influences podcasts. 

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Everything around running is as 
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and surely we are reaching that 
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I don't know if we are. 
I think it's still got another 

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level to go to. 
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a that's AI mean. 
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the major really has helped them
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Yeah, but that's a that's a big 
one I hurdle. 

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I'm not going to say where. 
Or here we go. 

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interesting. 
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of it, but obviously they ask 
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enter the Sydney Marathon. 
Some of those questions are, you

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know, different minority 
questions. 

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Yep. 
Feedback is by taking those 

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minority questions, those people
get 100% into the race versus 

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those who don't. 
OK, OK. 

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Obviously helps with stats. 
Yeah. 

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But the question is, do they 
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Oh. 
I see what you're saying. 

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So there's no in the in the. 
There's actually no check on to 

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whether or not. 
A direct comparison with 

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something we've talked about 
recently when we saw her on the 

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weekend just gone noose 
triathlon, Clydesdale, weigh in,

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you weigh in. 
You weigh in. 

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You register as a Clydesdale, 
then you weigh in and you're 

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suggesting, look, I know what 
you're saying. 

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Sadly, we live in a world where 
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jumped through, people will jump
through them, for better or 

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worse. 
I'd hate, I, I wouldn't like 

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that there had to be a policing 
policy on something like that 

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there. 
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And it sounds like it sounds 
like there is. 

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But anyway, that's pure pure. 
But to go back to, because we 

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talked about this last year, 12 
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if the Gold Coast Marathon were 
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that it delivered when it sold 
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it's a business you'd invest in.
Running is still a business you 

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should, could, can we'll invest 
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numbers suggest that 50% growth 
year on year in a major, in an 

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enormous marathon. 
It's. 

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I can't wait to see what it is 
next. 

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Year, I don't know where where 
this was, but I mean there was 

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an article or A at least a post 
that people have been sharing 

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around in New York on Wall 
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The sub three hour has now 
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swinging thing for all of the 
Wall Street guys verse. 

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You know, it's actually moved to
performance in endurance sports 

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as an element verse cars, 
planes. 

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Interesting. 
So it's a status thing, a status

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thing to actually, but we but. 
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competitive nature of that, you 
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They want to win. 
They want to win everything. 

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It's actually, so it's not just 
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It's now become like sub three 
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That is so that yeah, and this 
is but, and this kind of goes 

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back, we've touched on this 
quite a bit. 

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The idea that diminishing just 
finished like, you know, the 

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idea that people now finishing 
1/2 marathon's not worthwhile or

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not worthy. 
It still is. 

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I keep telling people I was 
having, I had this conversation 

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with someone on the weekend, 
ended up talking about running 

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and she said I'm not a runner. 
I'm like, oh, OK, don't run. 

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She goes, I said, I said, what 
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She says, oh, well, I run 5 KS. 
I'm like, you're a runner, 

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You're the that mindset. 
That's that mindset of is 

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something I think we continually
try and push, which is that you 

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don't have to run marathons. 
You don't have to run sub three 

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hour marathons. 
You don't have to run half 

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marathons to be a runner, to 
embrace running. 

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Yeah, if you run, I said to this
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a runner. 
If you run 5K, she's like, yeah,

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I'll do it twice a week. 
I'm like, then you're a runner, 

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you're a runner. 
Change that mindset. 

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It doesn't have to be. 
And we're in that noisy phase 

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around running in marathons and 
distance and all the rest of 

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that. 
I wonder how much like someone 

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who's running twice a week 
though 5K, how much noise of the

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marathon they get. 
Well, you know, whether there 

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was a marathon noise or not, 
they'd still consider, well, I'm

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not, I'm not whether it's more I
don't go to a training group and

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I don't I don't competitively 
run. 

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Sure, that probably is more the 
one I don't competitively run. 

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So I'm not a runner. 
OK, so I don't enter races if. 

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So I run. 
I run. 

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I run so if I'd asked her the. 
Question. 

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Do you run? 
Yes. 

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She would say yes, she would. 
Say yes as opposed to are you a 

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runner? 
She says no. 

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Interesting. 
I reckon that might be. 

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Interesting. 
That's a nice That's a funny 

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experiment. 
Where the line say, hey, this 

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one just keep keeping going with
this idea of where running's 

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going and how much it's still 
trending. 

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So this is from Women's Health 
Mag in the United States. 

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And they've obviously seen the 
same thing. 

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It's transformation, you know, 
it's becoming mainstream. 

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Running's becoming mainstream. 
It's no longer niche. 

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The Boston Marathon drew its 
largest field of applicants ever

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again. 
So in line with Sydney Marathon 

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as well. 
This is happening in Germany, 

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all across the world. 
They're questioning why this is 

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happening so much now. 
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endurance sports booms comes 
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something that may be on your 
wrist. 

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So data studies show wearables 
push users to move 

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significantly, significantly 
more than there's the 

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camaraderie, that word 
camaraderie aspect. 

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Run clubs feel bigger than ever.
And races such as high rocks 

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have options that led you let 
you go with a team rather than 

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being solo. 
But what they're questioning is 

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does the data and having access 
to be able to compare not just 

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to yourself, but to others is 
that's what's really driving the

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running, running boom. 
So if you took away Strava, you 

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took away knowing how exactly 
how much your GPS watch is 

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telling you. 
Would running be having its 

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moment like it is? 
No, I think comparison's got a 

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huge part to do with it. 
I think we as a as a people 

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inherently want to compare 
ourselves to others, for better 

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or worse. 
In some environments it's great,

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in some it's detrimental. 
The old adage of what is it? 

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Comparison is the thief of joy. 
I I think it's really prevalent 

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in some people's running. 
I think if you can't just run 

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for yourself and you, it's 
always about comparing yourself 

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to what everyone else is doing, 
it's a problem. 

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But yeah, I think the that data 
and comparison and and 

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competition element and and in 
doing it as a group is a huge 

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reason. 
And, and would it be as big and 

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as as significant and feel like 
as great a moment as we're 

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having now without it? 
No, I don't think it would be as

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big. 
It's driving it. 

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It's absolutely. 
You're part of it, just like the

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outlet, just like hiking. 
I suppose during COVID, hiking 

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and mountain biking were driven.
In COVID, it was by people 

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seeing others doing it. 
Yeah. 

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And then feeling comfortable. 
I think this is now what's 

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resonating and running. 
It's the old, it's the FOMO 

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stuff. 
Yeah, too. 

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It's the fear missing out 
attitude that we saw a while 

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back. 
Just with the I've just had a 

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I've just had a another one of 
my great half baked. 

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Ideas, right? 
We're going to have to give this

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a name. 
It's happening. 

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It's starting where it's when we
start talking, running. 

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My brain goes into a new 
territory. 

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No a name for your half baked. 
Yeah, I know we're going to have

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to come up with the name for the
little bit of a drought. 

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I've had a thought, flames had a
thought would where will it 

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happen? 
I think this is inevitable. 

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I think I might have just 
arrived at the future of 

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marathons capacity. 
We've reached it, right? 

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Most of these marathons we've 
we've gone through it with the 

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Gold Coast Marathon about the 
width of the roads and the what 

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is it? 
Crowd dynamic, crowd fluid 

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dynamics or whatever it was 
about. 

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Essentially roads can only allow
so many participants. 

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I'm going to give you a 
wrestling example. 

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Do you know what they did at 
what's the big wrestling, 

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wrestling summer slam? 
No, what's their? 

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What's the biggest wrestling? 
Event like W World Wrestling. 

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Yeah, what's their big event 
called? 

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What's their that was out in 
Australia just a while ago. 

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The series they run. 
He's talking about entertainment

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wrestling. 
Yeah, WWE. 

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Yeah, main event. 
What's the main event called? 

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Rule WrestleMania is what I'm 
thinking of, sorry. 

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So many Survivor Series. 
WrestleMania is what I'm 

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thinking of. 
Little bit of background. 

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WrestleMania, for those not 
aware, it is the Super Bowl of 

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wrestling. 
It's the big event that they 

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bill to every year. 
It's a major marathon, right? 

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And what's happened in the last 
couple of years is it got so big

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and there was so much money to 
be made, they made it a 2 day 

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event. 
Would you Courtney run New York 

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Marathon on day 2? 
Yes. 

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If day one sold out, would you 
sign up to day 2? 

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Yeah, I can't see there being. 
Why wouldn't a major marathon? 

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Do a double day. 
Run it back to back. 

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It's a good question. 
I mean, if they can afford to 

452
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,880
shut the city down for two days,
that's the question. 

453
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,040
I'm I've run London. 
It's a. 

454
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:04,920
It's a. 
It's a. 

455
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,160
If you got to the point like how
many it's. 

456
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,160
Proactive thinking. 
What were the numbers there 

457
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:16,000
around Sydney Marathon 123,000 
runners entered and what's the 

458
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,360
capacity? 
I'm just. 

459
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,920
Going to take a stab at what do 
they have in the marathon last 

460
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,400
year 40. 
Sydney Manager Marathon. 

461
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,640
I'm doing a quick Google here to
find out how many people ran it.

462
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,440
3035 thousand participants, 
right? 

463
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:38,600
So there is, there are on those 
numbers still 88,000 runners 

464
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,200
that want to be there. 
So you say do it. 

465
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,640
You could. 
Fill that race again, yeah. 

466
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:50,920
OK, but this then becomes, and 
this happens to all sports in 

467
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,200
this place. 
You do that, then does the 

468
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,560
demand fall off? 
Because when you can't, it might

469
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,480
work for a year, but when you 
can't have something and when 

470
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,280
you can't get something, you 
want it more. 

471
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,600
Agree. 
So if you miss out, if you keep 

472
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,720
it limited to that one day, it 
makes it so much more special. 

473
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,640
You're in. 
If everyone gets to do it, it 

474
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,400
clears them all out. 
In a year, it's over. 

475
00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:20,920
It will eventually come and go. 
The trend, I mean, it's not 

476
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,400
running is not going to go, but 
it will eventually. 

477
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,960
This trend, this you know, the 
need for everyone to be running 

478
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,280
will slow down. 
I agree. 

479
00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:34,160
If you put in more events, does 
it slow it down quicker? 

480
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,280
You'll just slow it down 
quicker. 

481
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,440
I. 
Or you think, or you think 

482
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,000
you've got to strike while the 
iron's high and. 

483
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:44,240
Just give us, I'm just thinking 
because I, I'm imagining and for

484
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,120
for lack of a better example, 
let's use Sydney. 

485
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,760
Well, no, you know what? 
Let's use the Gold Coast. 

486
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,440
It's our local race. 
Yep, it runs on the Sunday. 

487
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,080
But if I was a runner desperate 
to run the Gold Coast and I'd 

488
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,120
missed out and they said to me, 
we're actually going to run a 

489
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,600
second day, but would you? 
I would still run it. 

490
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,000
I'm imagining that you could 
actually almost develop the 

491
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:15,440
this, the two days, the two 
races into their own. 

492
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,960
They they almost developed their
own unique identity. 

493
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,200
Well, it's a good question 
because I mean, they do run two 

494
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,600
days, but they just run it as 
1/2 and A10. 

495
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,360
And a half and A10 all the. 
Rest people, but if the demand's

496
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:27,120
strong enough just for 
marathoning. 

497
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,080
Yeah, and Gold Coast is probably
not the right example because 

498
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,600
they have all those things the 
day before. 

499
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,120
But Sydney is the right example 
you hit. 

500
00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:38,560
I mean, here's the start, right?
They could easily fill two days 

501
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,360
here. 
Easily fill a second full 

502
00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:44,600
marathon and if you create the 
Saturday race and the Sunday 

503
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,040
race, you know it's a bit like 
Oasis, right? 

504
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,000
As we record this, This weekend 
I'm going to be down in Sydney, 

505
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,640
going to see Oasis. 
Now Oasis is playing two shows 

506
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,320
because the demand is there to 
see Oasis. 

507
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,480
Sure, they're not going to be 
back here same time next year. 

508
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,280
It's a bit different from a 
marathon, but there was enough 

509
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,200
demand to satisfy 2 full shows 
in Sydney. 

510
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,280
There's enough demand to satisfy
2 full marathons in Sydney. 

511
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,960
Run a second one the day before.
It's a great idea anyway. 

512
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,760
Another. 
Another. 

513
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,480
As it I've just had a thought 
some. 

514
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,360
Some of them I'll, I'll shut 
down pretty quick, but this one,

515
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,800
I, I agree with you. 
I mean, there's no reason why 

516
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,920
not, and a lot of people have 
missed out here. 

517
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,200
That's an that's 88,000 people 
or thereabouts that have missed 

518
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,280
out. 
That's an that's a that's a 

519
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,040
that's a grand final MC that's 
an MCG full of people. 

520
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,680
It also. 
Just shows what a success this 

521
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,000
year. 
It's having the major like it 

522
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,640
all, you know? 
Yeah, long term thinking to get 

523
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,520
it there. 
Yeah. 

524
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,360
You know, congratulations to the
Sydney, you know, everyone 

525
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,480
involved in the whole Sydney 
Marathon because, you know, it's

526
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,720
worked and proof's now in the 
pudding. 

527
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,160
It hasn't just worked, it's 
bloody smashed it. 

528
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,240
It's. 
Absolutely smashed it. 

529
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,920
So well done. 
You mentioned him a bit earlier 

530
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,080
on in the show, but can we give 
a shout out to Ty Dalker? 

531
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,720
Yes, for those, this is great. 
This is great. 

532
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,000
So again, if you're new to the 
podcast, welcome. 

533
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,440
And if you haven't caught up 
with our love of the Clydesdale 

534
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,520
category back story, it's 
basically the 100K plus category

535
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,880
of the Noosa Triathlon. 
We love it. 

536
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,720
We think it's fantastic. 
Jelly Roll friend of the show 

537
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,480
has put his hand up and said I'm
a Clydesdale. 

538
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:26,320
He's 100 plus kilo runner. 
The whole conversation you and I

539
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,280
have had about this is that this
is not body shaming, It's not 

540
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,080
negative, it's not shouting from
the rooftops and trying to 

541
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,080
highlight a deficiency of 
people. 

542
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,800
It's celebrating that humans 
come in all shapes and sizes. 

543
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,640
Well, here's the best example. 
Sam Collins, Gold Coast Suns 

544
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:48,400
back defender. 
He heard us chatting about on 

545
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,480
the Jelly roll and that and then
reached out to Noosa try and 

546
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,480
said hey, I'm a Clydesdale, 
change my can I? 

547
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,040
Can I race this one? 
Yeah. 

548
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,080
Oh fantastic. 
And I mean you wouldn't by any 

549
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,720
means so. 
Collins is just a. 

550
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,200
He's a big fella. 
Chisel do big fella. 

551
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,720
I did also see Justin, who we 
Justin waved we had in here. 

552
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:10,520
He I put the video up for those 
who saw it on Instagram over the

553
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,360
weekend. 
But he weighed in at 93 KG and 

554
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:16,120
we said, you know, Boo. 
But the big fella who weighed in

555
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:19,480
behind him was 136. 
Now that's a Clyde style and he.

556
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,880
Was giving him a flog and. 
Now he was. 

557
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,960
Ripping into him, saying 
lightweight, lightweight. 

558
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,960
But this is great and this is 
what we love about it. 

559
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:33,120
It is a celebration that 
athletes come in all shapes and 

560
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:37,000
sizes and again we want 
everybody to get out and amongst

561
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,440
that so. 
Ty's gone and done this. 

562
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,200
He's he's listened to the, he's 
listened to the. 

563
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,920
Core now Ty is the is the race 
director of the barely swim run 

564
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,120
event, which I did last year. 
And it's a it's a fantastic 

565
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,200
event. 
It really is. 

566
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,600
And Ty off the back of listening
to the chats has introduced for 

567
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,840
the first time the over the 
century Club Challenge. 

568
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,840
So it's 100K plus. 
It's a specific group for the 

569
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,600
100K plus athletes, the over the
century club challenge, the 400 

570
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,400
metre ocean swim and the 4K 
beach run. 

571
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,440
It's the same distance as every 
as as the other athletes run. 

572
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,520
Yeah, but it just means you get 
to race in your own category and

573
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,240
an opportunity to, you know, 
celebrate and and and finish. 

574
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,520
See how you compare against 
other big units. 

575
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,840
It's great. 
I love it and I love the name. 

576
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,760
Over the century club. 
We, we that, that's a name we 

577
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,880
haven't come up with. 
That's a good one. 

578
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,760
That's a great name. 
Now that's always on Australia 

579
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,800
Day, isn't it? 
If you're looking at it, yeah, 

580
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,600
it's the same one. 
If you want to get involved in 

581
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,800
belly swim run, I think it is 
the Australia Day weekend in the

582
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,720
Gold Coast and couldn't 
recommend enough. 

583
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,720
I raced it last year and as 
someone who struggles in the 

584
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,400
ocean, the fact that I then got 
to run past all those good 

585
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,480
swimmers who don't run as well 
on the way afterwards was a lot 

586
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,840
of fun. 
So yeah, go and get involved in 

587
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,160
that Barely Swim Run event 
organised by Ty Dark, a friend 

588
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,800
of the show. 
The quickly. 

589
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,120
We should touch on Noosa because
it's now one week behind us. 

590
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,840
Friend of the show Matt Hauser. 
Yeah, just keeps adding to the 

591
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,120
CV. 
Yep, we had him in Chad and to 

592
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,080
him I'd already pencilled him 
in. 

593
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,480
You. 
You did. 

594
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,840
You locked it. 
Should have just printed it. 

595
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,640
You should have just printed. 
It he didn't get me like he in 

596
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,360
the end, he still came in nice 
and easy and won it. 

597
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,240
But it was the fellow behind 
him, Reed. 

598
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,000
He was moving really well. 
The difference was, it's 

599
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,080
interesting when you look at 
running styles and you had Matt.

600
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,200
Matt's just so strong and he 
ended up running. 

601
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,320
I think he still ended up 
running 20 seconds quicker than 

602
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,600
second place, but if you looked 
at the cadence of second 

603
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,880
compared to Matt you would swear
he was catching him. 

604
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,320
Really. 
Yeah, he was just. 

605
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,280
Churning over it looked like he 
was running so much quicker. 

606
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,640
But you know, that's where 
obviously efficiency are running

607
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,680
and it can be so deceiving, 
especially on the side on, you 

608
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,200
know, when the camera is on a 
bike on the side on angle. 

609
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,200
And Matt's just like his cadence
is just a little bit slower. 

610
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,400
He's obviously like just getting
across the ground that much 

611
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,760
stronger and and more efficient.
And yeah, in the end he just, he

612
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,200
got his guns out. 
It was actually the new 

613
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,160
celebration too. 
The belt. 

614
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,320
I hadn't seen the belt before. 
He did. 

615
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,760
He wrapped the belt around got. 
To be his world, Chance Belt's 

616
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,600
got got some holsters in it. 
Give us a talk to us about Noosa

617
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,120
because I didn't get to go this 
year unfortunately, but I want 

618
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,680
to know more specifically about 
how you went in the Legends race

619
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,080
on the Saturday. 
We missed you. 

620
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,480
I know we missed. 
You, It's always such a good 

621
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,880
crowd. 
Now, who did I race with? 

622
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,680
I had, I had Reedy. 
No. 

623
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,600
Yes, Bondi pod. 
Yeah, Bondi rescue Reedy, Andrew

624
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,800
Reed I had doing my swim. 
Yeah, and who ran for? 

625
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,720
You and then I had Emma Carney, 
so she's still the record holder

626
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,560
of the Noosa Triathlon women's 
race. 

627
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,200
Of the women's race. 
Yeah, I think she well. 

628
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,080
And what did? 
You take a stab, it must be 3020

629
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,760
something, 30 years. 
She's held the record. 

630
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,880
I'm. 
Assuming you won. 

631
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,560
No, absolutely not. 
Do you know why they put me on 

632
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,920
the bike? 
Oh, OK. 

633
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,960
I think they had this 
expectation that I was a good 

634
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,160
rider. 
So those who have listened in 

635
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,640
long enough now understand that 
I haven't ridden on the road in 

636
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,800
a long time. 
I ride my bike. 

637
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,160
I ride motorbikes. 
Yeah, mountain bikes. 

638
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,760
Every bike I ride has dual 
suspension on it. 

639
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,240
I got my six year vintage Joy. 
What is it a giant TCR or 

640
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,760
something? 
The last row bike I was ever 

641
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,200
given weighs a feather too, by 
the way. 

642
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,560
And I put some new tyres on it. 
OK, because the rubber on the 

643
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,840
old ones was just, it's 
literally glue, new tyres, new 

644
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,320
chain. 
And I went out for the Garth 

645
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,640
Proud 30K ride on the Thursday 
morning. 

646
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,040
It was great. 
Yeah, so amazing. 

647
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,080
Got out with a few crew. 
We rode up to the top of the 

648
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,760
hill and back. 
So that's, yeah, it was an hour 

649
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,160
or whatever out there. 
My bike felt like a shopping 

650
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,560
trolley. 
Oh. 

651
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,160
Really. 
So anyone out there right? 

652
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,200
Now. 
When you, you know, when you 

653
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,240
you're watching a triathlon or 
watching someone on a bike 

654
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,720
clipped in for the first time, I
feel your pain. 

655
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,640
I feel your pain. 
I wouldn't have thought. 

656
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Yeah. 
But you know, like last time I 

657
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,360
got on road bike, it was like, 
you know, they they just jumping

658
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,080
back on the. 
Yeah. 

659
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,160
I mean, you're back on the 
horse. 

660
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,080
It's all the same. 
Yeah. 

661
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,960
I can tell you after six years, 
No, it isn't. 

662
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,640
OK. 
It was skatey, but I did that 

663
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,080
skatey, skatey, Skatey is the 
best to describe anyway, you 

664
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,800
know, you know who ended up 
giving me a good wind block was 

665
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,160
our big Clydesdale, Sam Collins.
Oh, yeah. 

666
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,120
He was in one of the competing 
teams, pushed hard. 

667
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,000
Hey, I came up on the back of 
him at one stage and just went, 

668
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,000
oh, here we go. 
Like, well, I did see that Sam's

669
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,400
teammate took Miller, his team 
took it out. 

670
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,360
Sons beat and he was racing 
against now. 

671
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,560
Oh I forgot, I don't know who 
the 2nd place was but he was a 

672
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,720
Young Lions fella. 
Ty Gallup, tall fella. 

673
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,000
No, the Tour for he, I think he 
rode. 

674
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,080
It's another another young guy 
there. 

675
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,880
I saw that Ty was up there, was 
the premiership player this year

676
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,520
with the Lions, but I didn't see
the other member. 

677
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,400
Hey. 
Here's one for you. 

678
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,360
Took it just going left field 
here. 

679
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:03,040
If you played AFL in the comp 
would you think you'd know every

680
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,760
player? 
Oh, and I. 

681
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,280
No, because there are some 
players on list that have never 

682
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,960
seen the light of day. 
And I don't mean that in a nasty

683
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,800
way. 
I just mean that reality is some

684
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,440
players, if you haven't made 
your debut and perhaps you've 

685
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,320
been added through the rookie 
rookie draught or the pre season

686
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,920
supplementary period, you might 
not be across. 

687
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,719
Well look, put it that way, if 
you're a brand new player in the

688
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,960
comp or even if more to the 
point, it's probably the other 

689
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,679
end of the scale. 
Let's use Jared Witts as an 

690
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,199
example. 
Jared Witts, Gold Coast Sons 

691
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,000
ruckman, been in the competition
long time. 

692
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,960
I would not expect him to be 
across every player that's just 

693
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,440
been added in the most racing 
draught. 

694
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,440
Yeah, see that is the case. 
I was also running with Brad 

695
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,760
Hill this morning. 
Since they killed her. 

696
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,320
Yep. 
Former hobby. 

697
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,800
Yeah, Bobby Hill's cousin. 
Cousin. 

698
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,320
Yeah. 
Family's high. 

699
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,160
Former Docker can run, by the 
way. 

700
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:04,920
Good run, actually. 
Excellent runner. 

701
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,000
Talking about runners. 
He can run. 

702
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,960
Yeah. 
Where are we running with him at

703
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,640
Pizzi? 
No, we were down at the Spit 

704
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,240
this ground with Gold Coast Run 
Car, and he's up here on 

705
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,240
holidays at the moment. 
So he dropped in and had a bit 

706
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,200
of a yes, chatting away. 
I think you wouldn't even know. 

707
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,040
And he was a not a run on foot 
of the group. 

708
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,560
Yeah, he's cruising. 
But I asked the same question to

709
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,600
him because it's surprising. 
I just would have thought there 

710
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,120
ain't that many teams in the 
league and you're playing a team

711
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,920
of, you know, what is it, 50? 
18 on the field at a time with 

712
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,080
four on the bench. 
There you go. 

713
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,920
Thank you. 
Our commentator across. 

714
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,400
There's not that many guys 
you've got already, you know, if

715
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,440
they bring in, you know, 10 to 
12 new fellas each year. 

716
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:48,920
Yep, well, there's 40 players on
the list. 

717
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,880
OK, so. 
There's 40 players saying the 

718
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,320
ones. 
That drop in and out are the 

719
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,120
ones that they may not be 
across, I would have just 

720
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,480
thought. 720. 
If you're on the field, you 

721
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,080
should know the other points. 
There's almost 700, there's 

722
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,920
probably at any one time 700 AFL
listed players. 

723
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,040
Now to your point. 
Is that is that the right stat? 

724
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,880
Well, there's eighteen teams and
there's 40. 

725
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,240
There's a maximum of 40 spots on
the list, so I'm. 

726
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,280
Going to check your you're right
seven spots. 

727
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,960
That's a lot of bloody play. 
There's a. 

728
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Lot of players. 
I apologise, I apologise Whitsey

729
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,520
and everyone. 
Yeah, it's not as simple. 

730
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,520
Now, if you go up against, I 
would have thought that Whitsey 

731
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,400
and those fellas, for the most 
part, when they go to take on an

732
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,600
opposition, they'll be familiar 
with at least 20 of the players 

733
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,040
on their team. 
But if someone's making their 

734
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,480
like Ben Jepsen, for example, 
young Ben Jepsen, who's, you 

735
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,600
know, come through the system 
the hard way, got his chance, 

736
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,560
made his debut, I don't think 
Ben would have expected people 

737
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,000
in the opposition to know who he
was when he made his I'm. 

738
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,560
Blown away this 700. 
Just when you say that, that's a

739
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,440
lot of players. 
Yes, a lot of players. 

740
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,720
There's a lot of opportunity. 
Yeah, or, but that's why I think

741
00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:00,920
the average AFL career is, you 
know, maybe 70 games or 

742
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,720
something. 
But I can. 

743
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,480
See why? 
I can see why if you're a young 

744
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,760
fella playing, you know, you're 
a young fella, you're good at 

745
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,680
riding. 
You're let's just say you're 

746
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,880
riding a bike. 
Yeah, there's there currently 

747
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,320
there's a, there's AI, don't 
know his name, but there's a, a 

748
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,040
guy obviously playing AFL at a 
really high junior level. 

749
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,840
Also I think believe he's the 
world BMX champion and a few 

750
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,880
other things. 
Oh, wow. 

751
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,480
He, I mean, I can see why you 
make a decision one way or the 

752
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,080
other, right? 
The opportunity in AFL, yeah, 

753
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,120
massive, especially when you've 
got that many. 

754
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:33,160
Well, on the average, the I 
think the average AFL salary 

755
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,760
these days, and again I'm not 
looking this up, I think it's in

756
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,120
excess of 300 grand a year. 
That's the average, though. 

757
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,200
Average not not the first. 
Year is no, no, no, no, no, no 

758
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,280
300 just quickly on Noosa. 
I'm glad to hear it. 

759
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:49,480
I'm glad to hear it was another 
fantastic year, another success.

760
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,480
This did come across. 
I've been said this a couple of 

761
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,960
times by different people, that 
there was a bit of a Barney at 

762
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,680
the finish line, right? 
An old fella and a young fella. 

763
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,360
And if you haven't seen the rear
we might try and add it. 

764
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,640
But basically this old fella 
appears to come across the line.

765
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,000
It looks as though the young 
fella's waiting for him. 

766
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,600
And as the old fella clearly 
knackered at the end of the 

767
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,200
Olympic distance triathlon, the 
young fella approaches him. 

768
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,520
And the old fella gives him a 
really decent shove and sort of 

769
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,080
gets up into his grill and with 
a bit of argy bargy and I don't 

770
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,720
know, and there's all this chat 
about, you know, what's happened

771
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:28,880
and all the rest of it. 
But, you know, it's the first of

772
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,640
that sort of thing I've ever 
seen at the finish line of a 

773
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,520
triathlon. 
Especially the age difference. 

774
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,040
Yeah, it was. 
I don't know clearly. 

775
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,880
I mean if it was if. 
It was 2 elites in the race 

776
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,160
coming in and you know, 1's. 
Having words about tactics. 

777
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,360
And like drafting or having a go
at each other? 

778
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,960
No, I think I can understand. 
These were like 3 hour athletes.

779
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:48,520
And and one. 
One's gone up and given the 

780
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,600
other one a decent, the old. 
What? 

781
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,880
What are we talking 60 year old?
Yeah, he looks like he's 

782
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,000
probably 60, and the young 
fellow looks like he's under 20.

783
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,720
Yeah. 
So Louis. 

784
00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:57,400
Yeah, it. 
Was unless it's a father of son,

785
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,200
there was a you know, the the 
rivalry is hot. 

786
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,880
But how's this story? 
I did want to share, and I think

787
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,560
the woman's name is Lynn Bellum.
Or Bellum. 

788
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,400
This is heartbreaking. 
She turned up at a triathlon 

789
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,280
transition on race morning and 
someone's nicked their wheel, so

790
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,080
she's got to a bike. 
In transition, that's about as 

791
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,080
low as she can go. 
And somebody has taken her front

792
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,240
wheel from her bike. 
I really hope that was a mistake

793
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:32,320
and someone unmistakenly, I 
really hope someone said, hey, 

794
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,640
go, my bike is here, this is the
bike. 

795
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,320
And if you want to borrow the 
wheel for the team event or 

796
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,800
something, go grab it. 
I'm not racing or something. 

797
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,440
That's what I hope. 
But what it sounds like is 

798
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,920
someone's had a flat in the 
transition and they've wanted to

799
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,760
really race and they've gone 
over and grabbed it. 

800
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,160
Oh no, I really. 
Hope that's not the case. 

801
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,120
I mean, what? 
What other purpose would you be 

802
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,200
to nick a front? 
Wheel, I don't know, it's a very

803
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,080
and I guess to that point, it's 
a very, yeah, It's such a 

804
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,680
strange thing to pinch when 
you've got all these other bikes

805
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,080
around. 
As well. 

806
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,800
Why? 
Why that, you know, I don't know

807
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,160
if there's a resale market for 
old triathlon bike wheels, but 

808
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,520
yeah, my, I, I was gutted. 
For well, it's happening before,

809
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,000
like obviously she's rocked up 
at a bike, so it's not like 

810
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,840
someone at the end of the race 
has just decided I, I want a 

811
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,400
spare wheel and walked out with 
it. 

812
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,320
Well, no, it sounds like she's 
got in there before the swim. 

813
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,400
That's what I mean, like 
transition there that morning. 

814
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,000
So that was morning, Yeah, that 
morning before she's even begun 

815
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,880
her race. 
So I, and again, I like I've 

816
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,320
always, I've been in the I've 
been in the attitude and the 

817
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,880
environment of I, I don't often 
race and I know it's the wrong 

818
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,640
thing to do, but I don't race my
new triathlon with a pump and 

819
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,120
spares. 
I'm like, my attitude is, is if 

820
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,440
I get a puncture or I get a 
flat, I'm not meant to finish 

821
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,880
the race this year. 
I'm not going to bother pulling 

822
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,240
over and repairing it. 
But I'm, I just, I saw that and 

823
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:56,120
I was gutted for it, but it's 
just A and the poor thing, like 

824
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,440
she would have been prepped and 
ready and excited to race this 

825
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,840
new triathlon. 
I don't know if she's done it 

826
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,600
before, but you don't even get 
to start your race because I'm 

827
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,240
big head that's taking your 
wheel. 

828
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,480
I mean in what's the bike lot? 
Have you got the picture? 

829
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Is it an? 

830
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,480
Older bike, it's your bike, so 
it's like a, you know, that'd be

831
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,160
a good 10 year. 
It's not that bike on the second

832
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,440
hand market is this old Sevillo 
P3. 

833
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,440
It's gonna go for 2 1/2 grand if
you're lucky. 

834
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,320
If you're lucky. 
OK, so there's bikes in there 

835
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,240
worth 2025. 
Like, hey, if you're gonna nick 

836
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:30,520
a wheel, Nick, a decent one. 
Yeah. 

837
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,280
Nick. 
Hey, talking about bikes. 

838
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,320
So just in the quick stack, 
because you got me thinking then

839
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,920
I was wondering what type of 
bike it is. 

840
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,720
Even if we sit on average the 
bikes in there, like an average 

841
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:46,280
bike in there was $3000. 
Yep, and I actually would go. 

842
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,240
I saw your story, I think this 
would be. 

843
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:50,280
Low balling. 
I saw your story because. 

844
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,880
I I4 wheel know there's bikes in
there that are 20 with with a 

845
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,480
disc and the right front wheel 
on are 25 grand bikes in there 

846
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,480
on the on the top end of the 
scale on the bottom end of the 

847
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,640
scale there would be if I put my
bike in there or they're older 

848
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,800
bikes, they're going to be 2002 
and a half $1000 bikes in there.

849
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:10,400
If we call it at 300 grand. 
Have a guess how much money's 

850
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,520
worth in that transition? 
8000 compared 8000 bikes in 

851
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,960
there. 
Well, you do the maths quickly. 

852
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,400
Three times out. 
So 2240 thousand dollars. 24 I 

853
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,440
went to mil. 
What dollars? 

854
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,320
Jeez, my maths is terrible. 2.4 
million. 

855
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,680
I know 24. 
That can't be right. 8000 * 3 

856
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,960
thousand $24 million worth of 
bikes sitting in there. 

857
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:38,400
I wasn't wrong. 
Yeah, you're not wrong if. 

858
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,520
You're a thief and you want to 
make some coin now? 

859
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,720
They have good security there. 
$24 million worth of bikes in 

860
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,240
there. 
Wow. 

861
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,000
And that's cons. 
I know. 

862
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,200
I'm thinking that's really 
conservative. 

863
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,440
Yeah, because. 
I think the clientele that news 

864
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,600
had get there well, 3000 first 
timers. 

865
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,880
So we're going to say their 
bikes have, you know, maybe on 

866
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,000
the lower end, but I'm sure some
of them have laid out bikes like

867
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,960
it's not hard to spend 4 1/2 
five grand on a bike these days.

868
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,160
No, if you put put decent set of
wheels on there, he's suddenly 

869
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,880
up around 7-8 and then you know 
all of those others who have 

870
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,880
been doing it for years and 
probably stocked up a little bit

871
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,760
of Kitty. 
And then and then $2.4 million 

872
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,560
worth of carbon fibre shoes 
running around too. 

873
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,960
Yeah, that's 300 bucks a pop 
8000 people running around in in

874
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,560
$300 shoes. 
That's a lot of carbon. 

875
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,880
You know what you know, you know
how 6 each year do the the 

876
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,960
Noosa. 
What was their Noosa shoe? 

877
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,920
This. 
You shouldn't. 

878
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,680
I Oh. 
The triathlon shoe, Yeah, they 

879
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,960
normally have the. 
Noosa ASICS? 

880
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,760
I wonder how many they sell. 
I would love to know the stat. 

881
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,000
I've bought a pair of those 
before. 

882
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,920
We'd never get the stat, but I'd
love to know the stat of what? 

883
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,640
The stat of what they actually. 
Sell how many of those model 

884
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,440
they? 
Sell thing. 

885
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,080
Anyway, Noosa and over, you 
don't like it? 

886
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,360
No, that's 2016. 
OK, overall, Noosa looked like 

887
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,440
another tremendous success. 
We should give a big shout out 

888
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,960
while we're here to James Tobin 
from Sunrise. 

889
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,520
Yeah, who had you on for a 
cross? 

890
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,400
Yeah, we did a. 
Little bit about the Potter and 

891
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,080
Jelly Roll and and Noosa and 
Noosa, of course. 

892
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,240
Yeah, of course. 
But it's good to see JT, yeah. 

893
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,640
One of the great, one of the 
great men. 

894
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:25,920
Now he did. 
One, because obviously his 

895
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,280
lovely wife is the one who. 
Farrah is the one who debunked 

896
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,280
my Your lungs are a toilet 
theory. 

897
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,840
But then I'm also. 
I always thought you claimed to 

898
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,680
have introduced them. 
No? 

899
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:38,520
Oh. 
No ready. 

900
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,800
Introduce them all right, same 
run. 

901
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,560
Oh well, I was throwing you 
under the bus. 

902
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,160
I'm going, Williams told me. 
Always. 

903
00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:48,240
That he is no no no, same run 
club. 

904
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:49,800
I thought he might have really 
owed your favour. 

905
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,440
No, no, no, same run club. 
But that run club of ours in 

906
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,400
Sydney is true evidence of 
dating being the new run club 

907
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,800
which I need to talk about. 
Do you want to see which? 

908
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,040
I said to Jade. 
I said we could just have a 

909
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,440
conversation on that because it 
sounds like it is a run club 

910
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,000
that has created a whole range. 
Of relationships. 

911
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,720
Yeah, it really has. 
Well we used to joke that there 

912
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:15,040
were only two ways to get into 
the run club. 1 was to run a 

913
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,040
qualifying time around the golf 
course in Sydney, 2 laps about 8

914
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,320
KS you had to run sub 415 pace 
and the other one was to sleep 

915
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:28,720
with an existing member. 
Thankfully those rules came into

916
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:31,600
effect after I joined because I 
wasn't confident of making the 

917
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,280
time and my wife wouldn't have 
been happy. 

918
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,520
As a way to get into the run 
club. 

919
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,680
Run club dating. 
I have AI have a mind blowing 

920
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,560
development. 
I've been with my wife for a 

921
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,000
long time. 
I was with Alana before Tinder 

922
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,880
arrived. 
I've never been on Tinder, but 

923
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,760
Courtney, I can tell you and the
in the beginning family right 

924
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,200
now that you're getting on 
Tinder. 

925
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,920
I am being I am being used wait 
for it as Tinder bait. 

926
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,640
Annie, who's one of the 
producers at the radio station 

927
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:11,360
on CFM, not on Triple M go came 
up to me the other morning and 

928
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,400
said you are. 
Do you know how much I'm talking

929
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,920
about you on Tinder? 
I was like, what are you talking

930
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,240
about? 
Apparently Annie's obviously 

931
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,360
looking for obviously a part of 
her philtre settings. 

932
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,640
Whatever you do on Tinder is 
attracting a lot of runners. 

933
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:34,680
And when she starts to chat back
and forthing and she says she 

934
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:40,000
works in radio, she's told me 
she's had six different people 

935
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,880
say, oh, do you know that guy 
Liam? 

936
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,160
I listened to his podcast. 
Really. 

937
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,120
Listen to his. 
I listen to his running. 

938
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:56,240
Podcast forget Jelly roll once 
you're talking about randoms on 

939
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:58,560
Tinder. 
We know. 

940
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,320
So we are now this podcast. 
No, no, no, not we, no no you 

941
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,720
podcast. 
This podcast is now in the 

942
00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:10,200
Tinder universe. 
I do not want to be associated 

943
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:13,080
with the healing. 
It is hard, the radio guy. 

944
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,680
Courtney, we are. 
We are in the Tinder podcast. 

945
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,280
No, because they're not. 
They're not bringing me up as 

946
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,960
the radio host. 
I'm being brought up as the 

947
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,920
running podcast host and great, 
getting great feedback. 

948
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,960
Yeah, getting great reviews. 
So I've actually organised it. 

949
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,520
So if anybody out there is 
listening to this and if you've 

950
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:40,640
matched with Annie, she's great 
and I'm happy to come along as a

951
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,960
third wheel on your first day. 
For a run. 

952
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,280
Yeah, for Annie, or if you want 
to go for it or Annie doesn't 

953
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,760
run, she's not interested. 
In running, no, she doesn't run.

954
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,560
So how's the Philtre getting 
runners? 

955
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,560
Well, she, I don't know, maybe 
she's just. 

956
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,160
I can say like. 
Yeah, she, she works in 

957
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,440
Broadbeach. 
A lot of runners around 

958
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,520
Broadbeach, you know, I don't 
know. 

959
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,000
But yeah, I, I I loved it. 
I thought we really made it. 

960
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,440
Nothing. 
Nothing is, well, everything is 

961
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,960
surprising me in the last two 
weeks, Liam, like. 

962
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,520
It's like didn't expect to be 
from Matt Howser sitting down 

963
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,960
with us to Jelly Roll. 
And now we are in the Tinder 

964
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,080
universe, Courtney. 
Yep, what's what? 

965
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,080
What's next week gonna hold? 
I quickly can I jump back to 

966
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,440
actual proper running for a 
moment? 

967
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,880
Elliot Kipchoge's latest 
adventure, have you seen? 

968
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,720
I saw a little bit of this but I
didn't quite understand. 

969
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:29,320
He wants to run in every 
continent. 

970
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,720
Yes. 
So Elliot is obviously, he's 

971
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,800
clearly tipped over that elite 
threshold not no, that's not 

972
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,680
fair. 
He's but he's clearly not a 

973
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,360
threat at the pointy end of the 
best races in the world anymore.

974
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,120
We saw that in Sydney. 
We saw that over the weekend, 

975
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,320
but now he is the thrill of 
adventure and, and, and 

976
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,000
continuing to run these 
marathons. 

977
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,080
I think it's a place he wants 
to. 

978
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,440
So he's running New York, which 
means now he has the seven star 

979
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,040
award, I believe, which means 
he's run every major marathon. 

980
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,680
So Tokyo, Boston, London, 
Sydney, Berlin, Chicago, New 

981
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,400
York. 
So he's run the seven, but now 

982
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:17,160
he wants to run in Antarctic, he
wants to run a marathon in every

983
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,440
continent. 
Oh wow. 

984
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:23,040
I mean, it's a big one if you 
you're in those races or around 

985
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,000
those places. 
How do you reckon Eli Kipchugo 

986
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,960
would go? 
In an Antarctic marathon, he'd 

987
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,440
just throw his clothes on and 
go. 

988
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,880
I'm tipping the guy can run 
anywhere. 

989
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:36,640
You know what I love about that 
story is it's so nice to see. 

990
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,400
I reckon he must just love 
running. 

991
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,960
You know, I talk often about 
longevity often comes from the 

992
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,080
love of doing stuff like he's 
obviously the, you know, being 

993
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,600
the greatest in the world and 
everything else. 

994
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,480
But he, you know, the love of 
running he talks about and 

995
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,560
that's what he still wants to 
do. 

996
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,840
And the fact he hasn't just gone
out and like had to retire, like

997
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,160
hard, put a hard line in the 
sand and go, I'm retired, you 

998
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,080
know, I'm done. 
He's comfortable just going off 

999
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,800
and, and you know, and going off
and you know, even running 

1000
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,440
around you talked about in 
Sydney when he's running around 

1001
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,840
and still waving at the crowd 
when he's running in 5th, 4th or

1002
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,040
whatever it was. 
He is an amazing fella. 

1003
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,360
He. 
Just wants to spread the message

1004
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,320
he talks about. 
He's like, I want to continue to

1005
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,120
spread the joy of running around
the world and the fact that as 

1006
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,640
that's an interesting because 
when you retired that it's an 

1007
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:26,760
interesting. 
I never retired. 

1008
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,000
OK, interesting. 
So Ellie Kipchoge in a lot of 

1009
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,200
sports, in football, obviously 
it's a different set up. 

1010
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,920
You, you, these athletes retire.
They say I'm retiring from 

1011
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,040
football, or I'm retiring from 
tennis, or I'm retiring from 

1012
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,480
swimming. 
Why did you Why did you never 

1013
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,120
retire or feel the need to? 
Well, the question is I I 

1014
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:50,000
actually asked more. 
The other question is why do why

1015
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,520
do people feel the need to say 
I'm retiring? 

1016
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,160
That would be the question I'd 
actually throw back like this 

1017
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,680
thing of I'm retire, like I'm 
retiring. 

1018
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,240
I mean, yes, you're stopping 
doing what you may have done for

1019
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:10,600
that period of time, but the 
hard line of I'm retiring even 

1020
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,280
you're not, you're going to go 
on and do. 

1021
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,520
Well, I guess you're going to go
and do other things. 

1022
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,640
I guess the retirement infers 
this is the end of this being my

1023
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,560
profession. 
From a footballing perspective, 

1024
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,320
you retire when you're when you 
choose or the club chooses to. 

1025
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,400
No long no. 
Clubs will no longer pay you. 

1026
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,320
No, I get it. 
I mean, I get it, you're 

1027
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:38,240
retiring, but to me, to me, 
retirement infers like I'm going

1028
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:42,160
off on my super and then moving,
moving to Harvey Bay and I'm 

1029
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,000
done. 
Yeah, literally like I I am 

1030
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,680
done. 
I am that like to me, retirement

1031
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:53,440
is why I I'm fine with. 
Hey, I'm I'm no longer going to 

1032
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,840
run marathons. 
Yeah, that's all good. 

1033
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,320
The the reason this came up on 
the weekend because there was a 

1034
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,600
few, there was a couple of 
triathletes who retired and. 

1035
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,720
Aaron Royal. 
Aaron Royal and Braden Curry 

1036
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:09,280
also retired from Iron Man. 
OK, see, now that makes more 

1037
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,440
sense. 
It's I've got the issue I've got

1038
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,760
is the word retirement. 
I'm no longer going to raise 

1039
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,080
Iron Man 100%, but you know, 
retirement. 

1040
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,120
I want to see people the and the
reason I'm not I'm not being 

1041
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,280
there's no like vindictiveness 
in this. 

1042
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,600
It's like I want to see. 
I think you should have a love 

1043
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,360
for the sport and be comfortable
to go off then and do other 

1044
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,880
things because often where the 
retirement element comes into 

1045
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,640
it, it's like then, OK, now it's
that, then what's next? 

1046
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:46,040
I see what you're saying. 
I just like athletes who have 

1047
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,880
done a sport long enough and 
there's a love there. 

1048
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,200
And this is where we're talking 
about. 

1049
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:55,240
Yeah, running. 
So the Oxford Dictionary defines

1050
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:58,480
retirement as the action or fact
of leaving one's job and ceasing

1051
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,520
to work. 
So I guess from the pers that 

1052
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,160
lens if. 
Pat Rafter wants to retire. 

1053
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,600
Yeah, I mean, he's coined No 
Stress. 

1054
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,920
Sorry, have you? 
You know what Pat's doing? 

1055
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,960
Adele. 
Whatever you want to call these 

1056
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,600
bloody I. 
Did see that. 

1057
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,240
I did see that. 
Yeah, Pat's going to. 

1058
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,960
He's representing Australia at 
the at the Paddle Cup in Doha. 

1059
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,920
He's he's going. 
We should we? 

1060
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,440
I'd love to talk to Patty about 
that. 

1061
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:24,680
But yeah, Pat's back on the 
court. 

1062
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:26,280
He's unretired. 
He's unretired. 

1063
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,680
He's unretired to to go back to 
running and keep Joe Gay. 

1064
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,480
This is he's not the fastest 
marathon runner in the world 

1065
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:39,520
anymore, but he's still the go. 
And this love of running, this 

1066
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,880
continued passion and chase and 
pursuit of running adventure and

1067
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:48,840
spreading that message is why he
it'll it'll be difficult to 

1068
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,480
surpass him as the GOAT, even if
someone ends up running faster 

1069
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,160
because I think someone 
someone's already beaten his 

1070
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,000
time. 
It'll be tough to beat this 

1071
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,640
man's love of the act of. 
Running. 

1072
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,800
So here's a question came out 
this morning as well. 

1073
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,120
Does Sydney Marathon have the 
same effect when you don't have 

1074
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,520
him and Safan there? 
Who replaces him? 

1075
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,000
Yeah. 
I don't think you can feel. 

1076
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,320
I don't think it's a like for 
like. 

1077
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,040
I think it's. 
I think you'll need to fill that

1078
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,080
hole with more than one thing. 
You won't be able to. 

1079
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,880
You can't, you just can't. 
You can't replace the shoes of 

1080
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,160
you can't feel the shoes of Elia
Kipchuga with one single person.

1081
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,600
Now that's where the task is on 
the City Marathon organisers to 

1082
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,080
find other ways to generate 
noise and excitement and 

1083
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,120
everything else that comes with 
it. 

1084
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,080
Hopefully Hassan is back running
again, defending her title next 

1085
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,200
year. 
You would think she would be 

1086
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,040
maybe defending. 
If it's a title up for the 

1087
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,760
defence, you'd defend it maybe. 
Or maybe she ticks it off. 

1088
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,080
Maybe it depends on the money. 
Maybe it depends on what cash is

1089
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,480
on offer, but they need to find 
other ways to fill the gap that 

1090
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,840
will be left by I. 
Think they Joker. 

1091
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,240
I think if they could bring her 
back out again, that would be a 

1092
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:57,880
big motion. 
Huge and and they should they 

1093
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,760
should chase her heart and they 
should pay her what she's worth.

1094
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,280
Yeah, because she deserves it. 
And maybe then introduce a 

1095
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,080
second day of marathoning like 
some great minds of thought you.

1096
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,840
Never know Liam they made. 
Recently, but yeah, big shout 

1097
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,760
out to Lib Kochoko. 
I love the fact that he's he's 

1098
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,440
continuing to run and I'd hey, 
if you need some people to come 

1099
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,640
and support run with you in 
Antarctica. 

1100
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,360
I know a couple of blokes on a 
podcast that's getting big on 

1101
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,000
Tinder. 
Just quickly on on Elliott 

1102
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,840
because I saw this. 
Did you see Diplo? 

1103
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,680
Yep, I sent it to you. 
Yeah, sorry, you did send it to 

1104
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,280
me. 
Diplo and Elliott, Yep. 

1105
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,520
Best mates. 
Yep. 

1106
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,320
In the running world. 
Must have seen us talking to 

1107
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,480
Jelly and thought this would be 
a good idea. 

1108
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:42,800
So Diplo again, if people don't 
know Diplo is he's a DJ. 

1109
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,800
Yeah, and he's been bringing in 
some massive numbers for his run

1110
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,000
club. 
What he's got now on Instagram 

1111
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,440
alone, I think he's Diplo's run 
clubs at 117,000. 

1112
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,680
People, yeah, but forget. 
I mean, online's one thing, but 

1113
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,280
it's actually in real life. 
Well, yeah, he's doing. 

1114
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,960
He's doing these runs. 
I mean that anything in real 

1115
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,240
life is way. 
Way more. 

1116
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:04,200
Way more. 
Important. 

1117
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,240
It's all, it's all right to put 
it out there on socials. 

1118
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:07,720
And, you know, I do this, I do 
that. 

1119
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,520
But the reality is if you, yeah,
if, if you can do it in real 

1120
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,680
life and that's what you're, 
you're going out there to do, 

1121
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:17,760
it's going to be way, way more 
effective. 

1122
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,280
And he's doing that. 
Same with Travis Barker. 

1123
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,960
Give him a shout. 
Blink One O 2 drummer. 

1124
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,240
He's, he's doing the same thing.
He's out there actually bringing

1125
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:29,200
people in real life together 
and, and you know, making them 

1126
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,280
part of his journey around 
running as well. 

1127
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,600
So. 
So Diplo's run club, the 5K run 

1128
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,320
and rave that he's been hosting,
he's done Philly, Seattle, San 

1129
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,600
Fran, LA, New York was a 
sellout, San Diego, Miami, 

1130
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,240
Phoenix. 
So this is this is another 

1131
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:46,840
example of that next evolution 
of running that we talked about.

1132
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,040
We've seen other people try 
versions of this to varying 

1133
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,800
degrees of success, but when 
somebody like Diplo is prepared 

1134
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,000
to put himself out in front the 
centre of something like that. 

1135
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,720
Who in Australia, Who in out of?
It doesn't have to be a new 

1136
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,680
musician. 
Who would you want to go to? 

1137
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,920
Who's run club, run club in 
Australia? 

1138
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,280
There's a good question. 
Anyone listening as well have a 

1139
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,480
think. 
Let us know subscribe if you 

1140
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,360
haven't subscribed yet while 
Liam's thinking. 

1141
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:17,520
It's a tough, it's a tough, it's
tough sledding when it, if 

1142
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,720
you're relying on the power of 
an individual like that is a, 

1143
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,680
it's a big, it's a big test of 
your celebrity. 

1144
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,960
If you as an individual are 
asking people to come out and 

1145
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,000
run with you. 
We've seen Ned try and Ned off 

1146
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,400
the back of his mouth of his 
back running Australia. 

1147
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,000
His Neds milk run thing was 
huge. 

1148
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,760
Neds runs were massive. 
What about But there was no 

1149
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,720
party after Neds run. 
It was kind of anything in the 

1150
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:43,800
morning, then disappear into 
the. 

1151
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,080
Day I'm not putting anyone into 
an event at the moment, just 

1152
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,040
saying who would you want? 
You know, if you could have a 

1153
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:52,680
run club with anyone, because I 
mean, I mean you, you talked 

1154
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,560
about the Hello Sport boys and 
the success of their run. 

1155
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,080
Club. 
They've had another little trot,

1156
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,800
the Goers Run Club in North 
Sydney. 

1157
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,280
They went out of Manly the other
day. 

1158
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,320
Yep. 
So you know, you don't have to 

1159
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:08,000
be in the industry, I suppose 
for running you. 

1160
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,120
Have you got someone? 
He might. 

1161
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:18,560
If Buddy Franklin started a run 
club here on the Goldie, I'd run

1162
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:19,480
with Buddy. 
I'd love to. 

1163
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,160
This is an interesting dynamic 
comparison with you and I and we

1164
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:31,360
saw it in play with Jelly Roll. 
Because I don't know if like I 

1165
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,080
would be. 
For me as having never been a 

1166
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,040
professional athlete, the 
opportunity to run alongside 

1167
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,000
professionals, athletes is 
excites me. 

1168
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,040
That opportunity to see them 
doing what they do, which is why

1169
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,200
I always consider it a privilege
when you and I run together. 

1170
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,360
Not that we've done that much 
lately. 

1171
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:54,800
So the idea of footballers, 
tennis players, swimmers, 

1172
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,680
whatever they might be, like 
that legends race at Noosa for 

1173
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:03,320
me, I have no right to be there 
and yet I've got to be in a team

1174
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:08,400
with Beth McKenzie and Kai 
Hearst and Richie Poor and like 

1175
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,560
I've got to be in a race with 
these legends of. 

1176
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,280
Sport. 
Well, even on the weekend I was 

1177
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:18,840
riding in a in a Congo line with
Kai Hearst, Sam Collins, Will 

1178
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,080
Davis and the driver and I was 
drafting off the ball. 

1179
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,000
So those those athletes, for me,
that's what I love. 

1180
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:32,000
So it's probably more a case of 
like as an example, if Alex 

1181
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:37,760
Rigby ever said to me, hey mate,
always got a run session, do you

1182
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,160
want to come out and do a do a 
pre season run session with the 

1183
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,240
Suns? 
That for me would be Oh yes, 

1184
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,880
please let's go. 
I'd love to experience. 

1185
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,240
This we can organise that you 
don't need Ally. 

1186
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,600
He's a high performance manager,
you know, but that that for me. 

1187
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,800
So individuals who are celebrity
wise, I don't know, that's a 

1188
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,680
tough one. 
Do you have someone in mind that

1189
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,360
you would go out and oh, having 
said that old mate from the 

1190
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,680
Offspring? 
Yep, Who runs his? 

1191
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,640
Look, if Travis Barker, all 
these guys came out. 

1192
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:13,560
Yeah, I don't know. 
I have no idea why this just 

1193
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,680
came to mind. 
Oh, here we go. 

1194
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,760
No idea. 
Do you know who just came to 

1195
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,840
mind? 
The Vice President of the United

1196
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,560
States. 
JD you'd run with JD Vance? 

1197
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,800
What? 
Why that came to my mind, just 

1198
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,120
saying, does he run? 
I don't know. 

1199
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,120
I'm not not Australian either. 
I have not Australian either. 

1200
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,840
Hey, talking about real random, 
yes. 

1201
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:35,960
What do you mean? 
I'm going to go off on the 

1202
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:36,840
tangent. 
This is good. 

1203
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,920
When you get a message from 
someone you haven't heard in for

1204
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:48,120
about 15 years, you see a name 
and you go they're still in your

1205
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:48,960
contacts. 
Yep. 

1206
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:54,320
And then you think, damn, why 
are they contact? 

1207
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,920
You know, there's never been any
contact in 15 years. 

1208
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,560
It might have been a business 
associate. 

1209
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,560
It might have been, you know, at
the time, the right circle, the 

1210
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,600
right friend. 
But what comes to mind when you 

1211
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,480
get a message after 15 years? 
Of that's what they're asking. 

1212
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,400
Well, that no, but you don't 
know what that Oh. 

1213
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:09,720
You don't know what they're 
asking, you just. 

1214
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,920
See a name? 
Oh, it's just happened to me. 

1215
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,000
It's just happened to you. 
Who it is. 

1216
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,800
I'm going to call it who it is, 
but it's just happened to me on 

1217
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,280
air. 
It wasn't Jelly Roll. 

1218
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,400
It wasn't as good as yours. 
Can we play this game? 

1219
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,240
Can we play this game? 
You don't have to say their 

1220
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:22,880
name. 
No. 

1221
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,680
So the questions are, are they 
reaching out because they've 

1222
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,480
just thought of you randomly and
they want to check how you are? 

1223
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,240
Your dog, all he is just he's 
coming in the studio and he's 

1224
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,760
having a scratch on my back. 
OK, so the options are they're 

1225
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,000
they're randomly reaching out 
because they want to know how 

1226
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:46,240
you are, It's a mistake or they 
want something. 

1227
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,760
Yeah, mine normally goes to the 
third. 

1228
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:55,400
My my guess is they want 
something, but I would also say 

1229
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,600
that we are we've now moved into
a time where I feel like people 

1230
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,000
check in more than they used to 
because the mental health 

1231
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,320
conversation in our world is has
grown and improved and matured. 

1232
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,360
Maybe, maybe I think seeing you 
somewhere and it's rejogged a 

1233
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,280
memory. 
That's right, I haven't. 

1234
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:11,480
Spoken. 
I think they want something. 

1235
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:12,880
Yeah. 
Can you check? 

1236
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,520
You don't have to say what they 
want. 

1237
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,920
This is someone who Courtney 
reckons hasn't heard from for 15

1238
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,920
years. 
They want something. 

1239
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:28,080
Can you come to this for me? 
Excellent. 

1240
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:29,800
And this is going. 
To be nice, excellent, 

1241
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,120
excellent, very good. 
All right and on that note, we 

1242
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,480
might disappear. 
Enjoy the weekend. 

1243
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,320
Hey, we should we always forget 
to do it at the top. 

1244
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,440
Subscribe, yes, subscribe, 
subscribe, subscribe like and 

1245
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,120
subscribe share the love this 
church that we are building. 

1246
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,400
It's not a church, it's it's a 
run club. 

1247
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,480
It's growing. 
We're having a lot of fun with 

1248
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,280
it. 
There's more stuff coming. 

1249
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:53,880
There's lots of things that we 
want to do. 

1250
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,120
We've got ideas bubbling around 
away in the background, but 

1251
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,680
we've had an amazing 1st 12 
months of this podcast and we 

1252
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,320
want to have an amazing 2nd 12 
months and beyond. 

1253
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,800
If people have got things they 
want us to talk about, thoughts,

1254
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,000
questions, ideas, send them in, 
send them in. 

1255
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,240
We want to make sure that this 
continues to, you know, reflect 

1256
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,040
the stuff that you guys want to 
be hearing from us. 

1257
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,200
And please subscribe and and 
share it with your running 

1258
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,840
friends and and we'll keep keep 
going we. 

1259
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,720
Will get back to you by the way 
as well. 

1260
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,280
It maybe, it maybe take us takes
us a little bit longer than when

1261
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,440
we first started this because 
we're getting a couple more 

1262
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:28,520
messages through. 
And. 

1263
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,040
That's the thing we were told 
the other day, I got a minute, 

1264
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,680
that's where this comes from. 
I got a message saying obviously

1265
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,720
we're getting, you know, it's 
going well, it's going good, but

1266
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,360
obviously people are listening 
to us and not subscribing. 

1267
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:43,360
Right. 
That's the call. 

1268
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,840
If you're listening our 
listeners subscribe. 

1269
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,520
Our subscriber numbers don't 
reflect the amount of listens 

1270
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,520
we're getting. 
Subscribe, please. 

1271
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,960
Yeah, people. 
And you get fed our yeah, you'll

1272
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,560
get spammed with us every week. 
Exactly. 

1273
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:55,840
We'll see you next week. 
See you next week.