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In the beginning, Episode 30, 
The Dirty 30s, we made it. 

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Courtney, how are you? 
I'm good, I'm good, Liam. 

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We are if you're not following 
along on the the Gold Coast 

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Marathon episodes, they are up 
and rolling. 

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They sure are in the beginning 
runs the Gold Coast Marathon. 

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This is so exciting. 
And timing wise, this coming 

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Wednesday, you'll meet Bronte. 
This is our this is our first 

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time marathon runner. 
And you'll start to get the 

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information about the sessions 
and like there's a lot of 

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there's bombs dropping 
everywhere. 

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Super coach Bonita Willis at the
helm, Bronte first time 

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marathoner on board, me 
attempting a sub three. 

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All that is coming up on the 
Wednesday episode. 

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If you know someone who is 
running the marathon, if you 

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know someone who's thinking 
about running a marathon, if you

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know someone who's just getting 
into running and hasn't jumped 

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on board the podcast, now is the
time. 

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Because these episodes with 
Benita that are coming every 

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Wednesday now for the next 12 
weeks, it's a it's as good an 

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insight as you'll get into first
time marathon running, ambitious

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marathoning running goals with 
the best coach in Australia. 

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And and presented in a different
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presented before. 
And so been through a few 

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coaches. 
Yeah, you are few coaches. 

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But back to our regular 
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Let's get into it. 
Let's get into some now I want 

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to I want to share this story 
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We're going to the AFL world to 
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This is the first of its kind 
and Shorter turn heads now Crows

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forward Darcy Fogarty this 
afternoon having a can of 

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Cooper's Draught tattooed to his
bicep that he'll wear during the

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Crows clash with Geelong on 
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It's part of a promotion for the
SA based brewery and while the 

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AFL and major partner Carlton 
Draught hits town, it's 

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understood the move won't break 
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not a protected sponsor unlike 
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Telstra. 
Fogarty Shorter receive a 

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windfall for the move and 
Cooper's. 

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While they're all a partner of 
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throwback to when Geelong's Gary
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to Cat food brand Whiskers to 
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the club was in heavy debt. 
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far can players go and has he's 
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league's marketing division all.
Right very nice word Mitch 

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Cleary from Channel 7 there with
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seen this by now. 
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on Thursday night against the 
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being played in Adelaide this 
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It's an awesome concept as a, as
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everything to be in Adelaide 
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But Darcy Fogarty getting the 
temporary tattoo. 

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Did you see the tattoo? 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, you could see it. 
Yeah. 

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Oh, yeah. 
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Oh, you can't miss it. 
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getting an. 
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you're not familiar, is he going
has one of the great set of 

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pythons in the AFL. 
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days. 
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cannons on him and the can fills
him out like this is a that is 

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if you were to try and in the 
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valuable piece of real estate, 
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right up there. 
It's right. 

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So do I get it right that he is?
So is Cooper's, Yes, and they're

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actually a competitor of the AF 
LS beer sponsor. 

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That's right. 
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sponsor, beer sponsor of the 
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up there. 
They're not. 

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They're not a protected sponsor.
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to the AFL, they're not 
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Well, I was hoping you could try
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marketing guru. 
I no, I can't because protected.

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OK, So what I'm more interested 
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protected. 
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from my. 
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bit of dealings, the clubs have 
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against competitors of AFL 
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Right. 
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in, in this source. 
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like, you know, like take it out
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It'd be like in rugby league 
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that can be had. 
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is I'd like to know how Toyota 
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nature that someone can't come 
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companies like Kia for example. 
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They just mustn't be able to 
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Presents an interesting I mean 
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audio reference Gary Hawking 
Buddha Hawking those that follow

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the AFL in 99 changed his name 
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I remember this. 
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He did it to raise money for the
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struggling. 
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struggling financially. 
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this to fatten his own wallet. 
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sand or not non line in the sand
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Because you've got beer has its 
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But for the AFL, who has taken a
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under the stewardship of Andrew 
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They have seen themselves, they 
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attitude is we're not just about
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in a broader sense and they have
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year where Ken Hinckley, the 
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the face of Jack Guineven from 
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AFL came out and said that's not
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like, we don't want to see. 
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I love the passion from Ken 
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they just won this incredibly 
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fired up and he was emotional 
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lead up during the week that had
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response. 
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I do with the player getting a 
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arm and I'm really interested to
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they see it. 
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well, it's not. 
It's not the AFL making money or

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not on this. 
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these organisations are always 
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cents start talking. 
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interesting? 
That can change things. 

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The AFL basically own the Crows,
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The AFL basically own the Crows,
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I don't know enough about the 
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clubs on the commercial side, 
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around the tattoo thing. 
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actual tattoo itself. 
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Because tattoos can be removed, 
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pretty decently these days. 
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to tattoo something on you with 
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future going well, I can remove 
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I mean, this is a way around 
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certain things of like we can't 
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Well, I'm going to put it on my 
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Famously, the comparison that's 
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Yep, Supreme, the NBA 
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sleeve tattoo from Supreme the 
brand, but the NBA made him 

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cover it up, right? 
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said no, no, no. 
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I would guess if this became a 
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pretty quick. 
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there's enough money. 
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world and Supreme probably had a
far more zeros after the initial

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number for JL Smith. 
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fogged his way to get this a. 
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is a demo right? 
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Beer. 
Beer. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
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It's pretty Aussie. 
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covering and all that sort of 
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because Bailey Smith is the most
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AFL said he wasn't allowed to 
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headband that he was wearing and
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And so it's it is interesting 
where they pick and choose the 

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cans and the cards. 
The Michael Jordan famous story 

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about when the Dream Team won 
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When was the Dream team 92 or 96
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No, it was Atlanta in 96. 
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was sponsored by Reebok, not 
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they were wearing the full not 
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And there's a great scene in the
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they, they won't see this coming
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And he walked out and had the 
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Reebok logos. 
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And and I was, and to me, that's
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It's an yeah, I mean, that's 
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interesting 1. 
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rules around you can be 
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sport, you can be sponsored by 
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individual sponsor is part of 
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them. 
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piece of equipment. 
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obviously shoes, your Take 
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ASICS, but you can still go and 
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race. 
You can still wear really. 

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performance, you can still use 
your equipment choice, your 

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personal equipment choice, which
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sponsor. 
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everything else. 
They just limit the amount of 

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space those logos can be. 
But you can still compete in a 

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different brand to your team 
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So what? 
Who are you? 

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Who's sponsoring you at your 
Olympics? 

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So for example, we are always 
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Adidas. 
So when we're out opening 

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ceremony, all that gear is 
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was the other one for our formal
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That famous sports brand? 
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But then in the race I'd wear, I
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New Balance. 
Right. 

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Yep. 
What is? 

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What about Sonny's? 
Oakley. 

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I would have been with Oakley at
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Oakley. 
But so sunglasses are OK. 

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Sunglasses are OK, but you know,
if someone's got a pair of 

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Oakleys and you're out running 
at the moment with them on, have

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a look how many logos are on 
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You'll see there's two OS and 
probably maybe even something on

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the lens. 
So you, I think my first 

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Olympics, you could only have 
one O, one side was only branded

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with the O, so. 
What'd you do with the other 

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one? 
No, but we just had custom made 

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sunglasses. 
But it had one O. 

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So when you went to the Games as
part of being an Oakley athlete,

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they have a massive big house 
there and you go in and you make

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your Olympics. 
So you make them in green and 

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gold or whatever the colour is 
and walk away with your Olympic 

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glasses. 
It was actually always unique 

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because always found the one 
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is this disadvantage over other 
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kind of the one headspace thing 
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branded, that's not necessary 
necessary an Olympic sponsor 

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because it's part of your 
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never really want sunglasses, 
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good example. 
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of the kayak as I used to like 
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because they they could go and 
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wearing the wear them at the 
Olympic Games and get their free

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sunnies. 
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Oakley were like we'll take the 
free exposure 100%. 

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It's cost how many millions, 10s
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sponsor of the Olympic Games. 
We're getting this for free. 

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Because everyone's wearing them 
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it gets underneath that rule. 
I love this. 

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We we went where you left there.
Can we just know? 

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Can you just take me? 
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an alleyway here, but can you 
just take me more inside that 

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process about the the Oakley 
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So most brands have a house at 
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So Red Bull have their house 
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at Paris Olympics. 
I know, for example, the Red 

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Bull house had a podcast studio,
right? 

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So you could go, you know, media
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recover it like full recovery 
area just for Red Bull athletes.

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So I think there's about, well, 
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the medal table, they would have
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the Olympics. 
Really. 

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Yep. 
That's amazing. 

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Yeah. 
And so. 

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So that was one house and you 
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assuming you have, yeah, I'm not
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would have been all the foot 
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And when I say house, they 
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And this is happening now 
already for Brisbane. 

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They're going in and going. 
We need a three level space in 

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the middle of the city and we're
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Olympics and we're going to deck
that out and that's our spot. 

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That's happening already. 
That is happening. 

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It has happened already. 
Some brands are getting onto it 

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now, some brands. 
It's already happened because it

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because you've got to think that
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down these spaces. 
What I'm talking about like 7 

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years out. 
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So you might be like, I'm just 
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Brisbane that would work real 
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Like even think your your your 
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Barracks up top of Suncorp. 
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top of Suncorp, because that's 
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Victoria Park, all of that. 
Think a brand goes, we're going 

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to in that time for those, you 
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the Olympics and of the 
Olympics, we're going to take 

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two floors of that, please, and 
that's our house. 

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Wow. 
And we're going to like a 

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company or a, you know, 
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we're going to deck it out and 
it's going to be Oakley Spot, 

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Red Bull Spot, Nike Spot, 
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river. 
I can imagine some of those 

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restaurants would be pretty 
pretty good. 

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But So what? 
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here just from. 
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wouldn't realise this happens 
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Because what happens again to 
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if you're if you're a 
restaurant, what if? 

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If a restaurant might be a bit a
bit far better, but if the 

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Czech's good enough, because we 
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Brisbane, for example, the 
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people who have houses will move
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And all that happens right 
within Olympic Games. 

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It's no different to these 
brands getting in early. 

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You're gonna get a better price 
now than you are when you're 2 

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years out locking in space 
already. 

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So have we sorted the in the 
beginning house in the? 

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Beginning for We are Brisbane 
20. 

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We're an hour away from the. 
Action we're a little actually, 

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it's probably as close as some 
people. 

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We're in the house. 
This is we actually we, I mean, 

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in all seriousness, we should 
start planning our 2032 podcast.

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He's. 
Kidding. 

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It's gonna be busy. 
I like. 

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For me, it's, I think I thought 
this may have happened a bit 

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earlier, you know, straight 
after the Games finished in 

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Paris last year. 
But now the election's just 

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gone, and I think there's some 
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everything I'm seeing. 
I'm hearing, seeing part of, you

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know, things are starting to 
really, you know, ramp up and 

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move. 
And it's exciting times. 

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And the Olympics is awesome. 
It's so awesome. 

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And there's two. 
Sides to this let's just say. 

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Yeah. 
We're sports advocates, that's 

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right. 
So we're all organisms being on 

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the side of sport. 
I do acknowledge there is two 

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sides of. 
Course, but you know what? 

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We're going to talk about. 
This is our podcast, and we 

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don't have to talk about the 
other stuff. 

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OK, cool. 
Anyway, Darcy Fogarty Yep, back,

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back to the if I had biceps that
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them, too. 
So I'm interested, yeah, we is 

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this going to become a bit of a 
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but it's also, you know, like we
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they got it and it's gone crazy.
Is the TAT, is the branded TAT 

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going to become a thing? 
It's so it's that thing, though 

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I reckon now the AFL behind 
closed doors would be going. 

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We need to find a way to close 
this door. 

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Yes, Darcy's opened it. 
We're going to close it. 

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I'm 100% agreeing absolutely 
that is is going to happen. 

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Let's move on. 
What do we got next? 

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What do we got next? 
All right, have a listen. 

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Be honest. 
It starts to get a little bit 

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disrespectful to these athletes 
to think that only in track and 

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film doesn't happen. 
Nobody expects that in any other

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story. 
But in track, Oh yeah, we'll 

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just let anybody who says 
they're fast just come in and, 

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you know, get a chance to prove 
it. 

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Can't go just play in the NBA 
just because you're a street 

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ball legend. 
Doesn't work that way. 

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You want to prove it competing 
NCAA's, you know, and becoming 

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NCAA athlete and then work your 
way in, you know, that's, that's

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that's the process for every 
other sport. 

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And now we're granted some 
trike. 

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That is the process with this 
sport. 

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But we will put those 
extraditions in our programme, 

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right? 
So, yeah, you know, I should 

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speak. 
Come on, bro. 

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We, we, we got some other 
figures, you know, we got some 

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other content theatres who think
that they're quick too. 

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We can match you up against 
them. 

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We're we're all about that. 
Michael Johnson. 

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Like one of the greats. 
Quickly, before we get into what

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he's talking about the weird 
running style, right? 

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Super upright. 
Yeah. 

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But if you look at like if 
you're comparing yes, yes is the

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answer. 
Not it was. 

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It was unique. 
That's it went like. 

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Bolt gout I shouldn't compare 
them to in the same set as right

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now. 
Today after the last week, yeah.

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But, you know, you look at their
body shape and styles, it's also

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unique in the way they drive 
through. 

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I think he was like Michael was 
probably a little bit stockier 

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so it was probably over 
exaggerated. 

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They're very, they're short 
steps too. 

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Yeah, very, you know. 
But unique in the best. 

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You can't do that. 
Anyway, he's here talking about 

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he's obviously behind this 
concept of the Grand Slam track.

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Grand Slam track. 
It's like, I suppose he's 

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American style thing going up 
against Golden League and 

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whatever else in athletics. 
I was a bit confused because it 

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started off saying Conor nearly 
having a dig, that influences 

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shouldn't be able to just jump 
in and have a run against, you 

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know, the best in the world, but
then finished by saying we'll 

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have some of that. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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We'll take your eyeballs. 
Absolutely. 

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Yeah. 
It's, it struck me that I think 

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it's almost a quote out of 
context a little bit, because he

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was. 
Well, it got it got our 

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attention off the front. 
It did, but he was taking a shot

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and he's right. 
It seemingly that it's not real.

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I don't feel like it's happening
a lot across the road, but 

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aboard rather. 
But I show speed. 

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Who's this? 
The young people will know. 

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Some of the old people who 
listen to this might not have a 

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clue who we're talking about. 
He's basically the biggest 

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online personality on the 
Internet. 

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He's a streamer, huge followers 
I. 

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Think he turned up out he we did
you cover that on radio when he 

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cavil cavil. 
But then he also showed up about

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it, Surfers Paradise, Demons, 
AFL Field and it was chalkers. 

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The kids, the kids, it's it's 
it's insane, the following and 

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the fandom that the people that 
follow him have. 

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So did you catch who he? 
Ran against on the track, so. 

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He previously ran against the, 
he had a yeah, he had a, he had 

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a hit out against no Noah Lyles.
And I think they only ran over 

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60 metres or something like that
because I show speed. 

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Part of his persona is that 
he's, he's, he's, well, he's but

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also capable of anything, right?
Yeah. 

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He does backflips and he jumps 
cars and all this sort of stuff.

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And he raised Noah Lyles and 
genuinely believed that he had 

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him. 
Like genuinely believed that he 

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was faster than Noah Lyles. 
That's the level of delusion 

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that he's part of. 
He's been. 

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Doing no, I can't recall. 
Did he blow him away? 

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Noah Lyles is cantering 
alongside. 

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Yeah, like he's playing. 
He's. 

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Don't get me. 
What's wrong? 

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I showed speed dusts me in a 
race and like probably and he's 

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probably faster, significantly 
faster than the average. 

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Human. 
But it's like every sport when 

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you've compared it to the elite 
of the elite, someone who's 

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better than average or. 
Good, still looks looks exactly.

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I've always had this analogy of 
on bikes. 

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I can ride a mountain bike, 
yeah, but I can't really ride a 

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mountain bike. 
Yeah, I can ride a bike. 

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So that that's what he's talking
about there. 

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What I'm with you though, what 
gets interesting is this concept

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of Grand Slam track because 
they've already had the first 

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meet. 
So this Jamaica. 

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Yeah, in Kingston. 
And I, I disappeared down a 

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rabbit hole on this after you 
sent me through ahead of today 

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because I the Grand Slam track, 
the notion of it 4 events not 

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far apart, the best athletes in 
the world competing against 

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challenges. 
I'm like, right, This feels like

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a very, as I say, Americanized 
concept. 

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It feels like it's got a bit of 
the golf and the tennis idea of 

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creating Grand Slam events. 
Yes, crowning winners all ball. 

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But on paper that simple idea 
sounds great. 

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And then it gets confusing. 
It's complicated, right? 

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It is so confusing what this 
thing is, the way it's so 4 

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events, Kingston, Miami, 
Philadelphia and LA, yeah, 

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they're the host cities. 
Then the competitors are made up

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of 48 contracted best athletes 
versus 48 challenges. 

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So in each race and. 
Who are the challenges? 

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Well, they're still elite 
athletes, but they're the kind 

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of the next best four who who 
has signed up to be 

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participants. 
They're not the influencers. 

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These are not where I thought 
they were going. 

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No. 
And then there's it's then he's 

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tried to sort of gamify it by 
having the race groups. 

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So each of these race groups has
two races. 

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It could be short sprints or 
long sprints or short hurdles or

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long hurdles or short distance 
or long distance. 

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And then there's scoring based 
on where you finish over the two

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different racing groups. 
And then the competitor who wins

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the highest points, Soto wins 
the group. 

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And then there's a slam champion
crown per group. 

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And then at the end of the four 
years there's a dominant score. 

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It got so confusing so quickly. 
I love sport, Courtney. 

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I don't understand how this 
works. 

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I've got the website of 
frequently asked questions in 

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front of me because I thought 
I'd better do my homework today 

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when I saw you were all into 
this. 

453
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,000
I got about 3 scrolls down and 
went I'm lost, I'm lost. 

454
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,400
It's so confusing then I. 
Went to watch the video to try 

455
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,720
and explain what it was. 
Yeah. 

456
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,560
And how Long's the video? 
51 seconds. 

457
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,480
Play it. 
You don't have a pop. 

458
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,680
Yeah, press play and I'll and 
I'll Ding when I get confused. 

459
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,720
So this is the Grand Slam track 
for. 

460
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,160
This Guy, a new pro track 
league, is debuting this spring 

461
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,800
and it's the brainchild of four 
time Olympic champ Michael 

462
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,840
Johnson. 
The new Grand Slam of Track will

463
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,680
aim to showcase the sport to 
fans outside of the Olympic 

464
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,400
Games. 
The athletes involved, 48 men 

465
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,880
and 48 women, will compete for a
share of the total prize pool of

466
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,600
$12.6 million. 
Among the big names competing 

467
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,480
are American sprinter Fred 
Curley and Canadian middle 

468
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,400
distance runner Marco A Rope. 
There are four stops on the 

469
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,680
circuit. 
Beginning April 4th in Kingston,

470
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,160
Jamaica, runners will compete in
one of six event groups, short 

471
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,400
and long sprints, short and long
hurdles, and short and long 

472
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,560
distance. 
Athletes competing in each group

473
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,840
will run 2 races at each Grand 
Slam and collect points for 

474
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,840
their results on a sliding 
scale. 

475
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,400
The racer that earns the most 
points by the end of the final 

476
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,440
slam will be crowned Racer of 
the Year. 

477
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,320
Catch all events live on CBC 
Sports and. 

478
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,960
Points and sliding scales and. 
Race groups. 

479
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:12,520
Long sprints. 
And they don't have the best in 

480
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,720
the world. 
And this is the key point 

481
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,120
because after you sent this 
through, I went on now I think 

482
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:22,000
it's called Beyond the Record. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

483
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,840
Beyond the Records, which is now
allows podcasts. 

484
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,320
And I found the episode where he
talks about this and why he said

485
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,520
no. 
And he basically said, because 

486
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,640
he looked at it and said, I 
don't see how you're making 

487
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,560
money out of this. 
You're talking about a $12.6 

488
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,840
million prize pool. 
Which first is only 100,000, so 

489
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,960
that splits out to a lot. 
Less. 

490
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,160
Yeah, it sounds like a lot more 
it. 

491
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,320
Sounds like a lot more 
impressive than it. 

492
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,160
Is but also the points he and 
his Co host on these podcasts 

493
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,320
were talking about was where's 
the TV deal? 

494
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,080
Where can people watch this? 
And he's talking about the size 

495
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,200
of the fields where they're 
having these mates like Kingston

496
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,400
and all the rest of that. 
He's like to make money, you're 

497
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,320
going to have to charge an 
exorbitant amount of money to 

498
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,120
people to enter these things. 
And as, and I've, I've seen some

499
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:10,320
clips from Kingston, the first 
mate, there's no one in the 

500
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,560
stands. 
No, there's no one in the end, 

501
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,440
so. 
It's made for TV, but I just. 

502
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,400
But so Noah Lyles said no 
because he said the business 

503
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,640
model, in my opinion doesn't 
work. 

504
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,880
And I don't see how you make 
money from this and how in kind 

505
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,880
I make money from this. 
And he is all about the 

506
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,120
business. 
Noah Lyles is all about making 

507
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:36,040
money and making track, a money 
making industry and league like 

508
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,920
the NBA is the NFL. 
He's the guy who came out after 

509
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,520
the Olympics said I want my own 
shoe, not a track spike. 

510
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,080
I want a shoe. 
He still doesn't have a shoe. 

511
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,520
But yeah, this this Grand Slam 
track whilst I I get, I can see 

512
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,360
how Michael Johnson is thinking,
let's create a big thing that's 

513
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:58,880
not the Diamond League. 
I don't know how it's going to 

514
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,280
long term well. 
Let's give it a year and see. 

515
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,000
But yeah, it's when it comes to 
sport and running. 

516
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,240
Running's a pretty simple. 
Like for all sports, running 

517
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,240
should be the most simple thing.
Literally put a pair of shoes 

518
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,400
on, pick a distance and you 
erase someone. 

519
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,000
Well, let's compare it to the 
Maori plant mate that just 

520
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,280
happened down in Melbourne 
recently the other week. 

521
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,280
For anybody that didn't see it 
in Australia, it was the big 

522
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,800
mate down in Melbourne. 
I thought they did that really 

523
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:27,840
well. 
And was sold out. 

524
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,880
I thought they did that really, 
really well. 

525
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:36,480
Now they they put Gout Gout's 
race as the final event of the 

526
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,120
entire meet. 
Smart move. 

527
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:42,840
It's where all the buzz is. 
Melbourne's a great city to host

528
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,560
this thing. 
They didn't need to go and build

529
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,160
a new stadium or anything like 
that. 

530
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,920
They branded it. 
Well, there was excitement 

531
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,840
generated. 
Sold out event, boom. 

532
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,640
And you had hit the other thing.
I'll say Bruce Mccavaney 

533
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,480
commentating. 
Yeah, Bruce Mcavany 

534
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,600
accommodating Gout's race and 
Locky Kennedy. 

535
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,240
Question for you. 
Here we go without gout there in

536
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,920
that final race. 
Does that Murray Plant meet 

537
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:10,960
outside of the hardcore 
athletics fans? 

538
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,800
Get a look at No. 
We were sitting at dinner in 

539
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,280
Tasmania, multiple people at the
table, not me. 

540
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,840
I was being not being rude. 
Multiple people at the table had

541
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,560
their phones waiting for gout to
race. 

542
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,960
Like, I just wonder. 
I mean that as much as we we 

543
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,000
want to protect him, he's also 
driving this, this athletics 

544
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,040
boom. 
Absolutely, whether he likes it 

545
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,840
or not, because there's a lot. 
Cam Myers, We've got a lot of 

546
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,160
great athletes, so many great 
athletes, but the one who's 

547
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,760
drawing the public eyeballs no 
doubt is Scout. 

548
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,160
Yeah. 
It because it's he's unique, 

549
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,520
he's new, he's competing in 
events that we traditionally 

550
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,440
aren't strong in. 
He's already garnering and the 

551
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,720
market. 
Blue Blue Ribbon event. 

552
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,640
But the marketability of him is 
also evident by the fact that 

553
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,560
Noah Laws has had him on his 
podcast. 

554
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,240
He is making noise in the 
biggest market for. 

555
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,120
Athletes and calling him out, 
that was impressive. 

556
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,800
So yeah. 
Anyway, good luck to Michael 

557
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,840
Johnson if you need an official 
podcast for the Grand Slam track

558
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,040
in the beginning. 
Definitely available. 

559
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,280
Back to distance running, Liam. 
Choose jogging. 

560
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,760
Choose overpriced trainers. 
Choose choking on energy gels 

561
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,760
that taste like fucking cat 
piss. 

562
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,200
Choose bright trainers, run club
pyramid schemes, useless 

563
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,960
electrolytes, mid splits and 
shit sunglasses. 

564
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,040
Choose wearing carbon plated 
trainers to overtake middle aged

565
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,080
mums. 
Choose only having one 

566
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,080
personality trait. 
Choose giving up therapy to run 

567
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,240
up some hills. 
Choose explaining what AVO 2 Max

568
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,120
is to a family member at a 
funeral. 

569
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,200
Choose telling your work 
colleagues they have to run slow

570
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,880
to run fast. 
Choose being so painfully 

571
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,560
average despite pouring your 
whole life into this. 

572
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,440
Choose carb loading for a three 
mile easy run. 

573
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,080
Choose paying for an AI training
app and then never using it. 

574
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,000
Choose transitioning from 
nightclubs and narcotics to 

575
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,600
running up mountains. 
Choose posting this all on your 

576
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,520
Instagram story even though 
nobody gives a fuck. 

577
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,120
Choose Running. 
I love these. 

578
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,440
I love these. 
They're so perfect. 

579
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,320
From Gerald Demolsky. 
Demolsky. 

580
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,560
They're so perfect. 
They're, they're just, it's so 

581
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,200
true. 
It's so true. 

582
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,560
In a good way, though. 
In true in a good way. 

583
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,160
Great way, yeah, in a great way.
I listen to that and I which. 

584
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,960
One resonated. 
Telling your Co workers you 

585
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,160
gotta run slow to run. 
I am so guilty of that. 

586
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,680
I don't know about making it my 
whole personality. 

587
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,240
Sometimes I do feel like I'm I 
talk too much about running, but

588
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,880
I that's it's great. 
It's great. 

589
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,640
The. 
The narcotics one, probably not 

590
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,320
narcotics, but clubbing. 
You know, like people out 

591
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,320
clubbing one day like their 
party is and then suddenly like 

592
00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,120
turn into the most healthy green
runners getting up at 5:00 AM. 

593
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,200
That switch is amazing. 
That's the one I like out of it.

594
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,960
Almost. 
It's the new midlife crisis, to 

595
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,920
some extent. 
Yeah, but it's happening when 

596
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,120
you're 25. 
Yeah, it's a. 

597
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,640
Quarter life crisis, right? 
The stereotype used to be 

598
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,600
getting the sports car and and 
sleeping with your receptionist.

599
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,040
That's the old school 
stereotype. 

600
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,560
The new school stereotype is 
buying a pair of carbon plates 

601
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,680
and joining a run clock. 
Do you know who's very jealous 

602
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,160
of all this at the moment? 
Triathlon. 

603
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,680
Really. 
Well, that used to be the 

604
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,920
midlife. 
That was the midlife crisis, and

605
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,480
now there's a younger. 
Midwife yeah, yeah, running's 

606
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,840
come. 
The more people want to send 

607
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,080
that stuff in, the better. 
Now we I we've been sent this is

608
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,120
new ground for in the beginning 
podcast because. 

609
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,480
And we love the comments, 
comments on Spotify, people who 

610
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,280
listen there, the comments on 
the Instagram page, people who 

611
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,880
send stuff there. 
Love it all and keep doing it, 

612
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,800
but for the first time in the 
beginning, podcast has been sent

613
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,120
an audio message. 
Yes, without being prompted, 

614
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,840
which is amazing. 
So feel free to feel free in the

615
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,160
future. 
Yeah, so let's hit it. 

616
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,960
Boys Benny, I've literally just 
finished the London Landmarks 

617
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,080
Half marathon. 
Oh well. 

618
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,480
What they told us would be 1/2 
marathon, 20.54 kilometres. 

619
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,600
The watch came back at the race,
says that it's a half marathon. 

620
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,160
Want to get your opinions 
fellas? 

621
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,520
Got a PB for for 20.54 
kilometres of an hour and 26 

622
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,480
minutes. 
Do do we count that as a half 

623
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,120
marathon PB or does it just not 
count? 

624
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,560
Now? 
I attribute this feeling to 

625
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,160
being offered 1,000,000 bucks 
and then being given $0.50 

626
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,760
instead. 
Happy with my effort but 

627
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,800
absolutely shattered. 
Yeah. 

628
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,480
What's your thoughts fellas? 
Anyway Liam, actually your, your

629
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,240
running techniques that you were
sharing mate. 

630
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,080
Some of them were quite handy 
along the way as well. 

631
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,520
So kudos to you fellas. 
Love the podcast, listen to it 

632
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,280
every week. 
You boys got me through it I 

633
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,120
reckon. 
Take care, fellas. 

634
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,960
Big shout out to Ben Tennant. 
Listen, yeah, of course you're 

635
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,120
shouting him out. 
He's given. 

636
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,800
He's given you the big kudos. 
All right, there's lots to get 

637
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,440
to firstly 1010 and massive 
shout out. 

638
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,440
Thank you for sending that audio
message in and Ben has now 

639
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,040
opened the gate as far as I'm 
concerned. 

640
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,440
You want to send in audio 
messages, questions, thoughts, 

641
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,360
feedback? 
We're open to it We. 

642
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,080
Will vet though if you're happy.
Yeah, we'll check them if you're

643
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,840
happy for us to use them on the 
podcast. 

644
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,760
All audio messages now welcome. 
Now let's get back to Ben. 

645
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,040
The big dilemma here. 
Just have you ever run the 

646
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,480
London Half the Landmarks Half 
Marathon? 

647
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,440
No, I. 
New one to me, I've never done 

648
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,040
it, but what an epic track what 
an epic track. 

649
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,600
Over this half marathon you get 
to run past and take in Big Ben,

650
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,600
the London Eye, Nelson's Column,
Saint Paul's Cathedral, the 

651
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,880
Gherkin, the Bank of it, like 
it's the Tower of London. 

652
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,960
It's. 
Literally, you're the red bus, 

653
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,960
yes? 
You're the you're the tour bus, 

654
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,480
and you're running it the whole 
way. 

655
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,880
What an epic track. 
Love it. 

656
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,360
Landmark. 
Well done to the erase 

657
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,400
organisers you've got. 
You've come up with a half 

658
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,680
marathon that's got a great 
gimmick. 

659
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,360
London Landmarks half marathon. 
Amazing idea. 

660
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,640
And the big question is, is, is 
a short course? 

661
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,120
What can Ben claim? 
His result? 

662
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,920
You tell me. 
He can claim his result. 

663
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,520
I don't think you can claim a 
time. 

664
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,040
Sorry, Ben. 
So he hasn't run. 

665
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,320
That's not he hasn't run a. 
That's not his marathon. 

666
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,280
Half marathon. 
Time. 

667
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,320
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 
I don't think you can. 

668
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,400
I don't think it's any different
to when I was running triathlons

669
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,480
coming in a 2028 high 29 low. 
Could go and telling everyone 

670
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,560
you really ran that, but no, 
just cheating yourself. 

671
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,800
Oh Ben, Benny. 
Oh, Ben. 

672
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,760
I blame it on the race though, 
Ben. 

673
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,520
I agree. 
I mean, if they're going to 

674
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:31,040
advertise 21.1, yeah, 2.1 half 
marathon, half marathon, they 

675
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,199
should make it a half marathon. 
This is crazy. 

676
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:35,560
As far as, and we're thinking, 
I'm thinking about these on the 

677
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,480
fly here, as far as crimes that 
a race organiser can commit, 

678
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,480
where does getting the distance 
wrong? 

679
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,239
Well, is it worse if it's long 
or whether it's short? 

680
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,000
There you go. 
It's worse if it's short. 

681
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,800
Really. 
Oh yeah, If you're short 

682
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,120
changing people on that, if 
you're for the average runner, 

683
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,760
being short is worse because 
you're short changing someone 

684
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,440
like Ben on the achievement of 
the distance. 

685
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,200
Yeah. 
Because you it's not a half 

686
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,400
marathon. 
I mean, what so if like short 

687
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,560
changing them on the distance, 
if that's a crime, what are some

688
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,240
other crimes race organisers 
commit? 

689
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,240
You've you've raced at the 
pointy end. 

690
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,480
I will say disorganised aid 
station. 

691
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:21,880
Too few, too few. 
Too few an aid station. 

692
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,360
No, no, too few toilet blocks. 
Or too few toilet blocks. 

693
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,320
See, I've never had that drama. 
Number one. 

694
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,480
Well, at the start line or along
the course. 

695
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,280
No, it well could be both, but 
I'm thinking more start line. 

696
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,800
Yeah, but it feels like that's a
weird anomaly with events. 

697
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,240
I don't think you can ever have 
enough. 

698
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:41,840
Like, I think if you had, even 
if you had a toilet for every 

699
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,360
competitor in the race, somehow 
they'd still be busy with a new 

700
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,360
one. 
It's just this weird quirk that 

701
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,760
exists. 
What else do races? 

702
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:54,040
Can they stuff up? 
Course measurements are the big 

703
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:54,400
one. 
Really. 

704
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,400
Course. 
Measurements are the big. 

705
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,720
One, I don't know. 
I'm just trying to think, what 

706
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:57,440
shall I get? 
Corners. 

707
00:35:57,720 --> 00:35:59,120
Yeah. 
Too many corners in a race. 

708
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,120
But you know that. 
You know that. 

709
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,120
The London Landmarks Half 
Marathon is full of them. 

710
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:07,000
Like I'm just looking at the 
course map on the computer in 

711
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,600
front of me. 
This thing is a you are doing a 

712
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,720
lot of sharp. 
Angle to road running, There's 

713
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,360
probably not too much you can 
get wrong. 

714
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,640
There's probably not too much 
other than the distance you can 

715
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,560
go wrong, right? 
So that is the major crime. 

716
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,480
But it has made me think, and 
I'm sure someone else was 

717
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,280
thinking this, when we're 
talking about under distances, 

718
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,120
what's your take on running a 
race or a marathon? 

719
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:34,200
It can be any distance and 
taking your Strava half marathon

720
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,000
time, taking your watch's time 
instead of taking the race's 

721
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,120
time. 
Oh, whichever one's faster. 

722
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,240
Yeah, so. 
Can you claim so the you believe

723
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:52,000
the course is long because your 
GPS tells you it's long and you 

724
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,760
say I ran the Gold Coast 
Marathon in three hours. 

725
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,640
Yeah, I broke 3 hours. 
Or your time across the line was

726
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,400
actually 3 hours. 
So this is and 10 seconds. 

727
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,720
So this is a hypothetical. 
Yeah, this is hypothetical for 

728
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,520
12 weeks time. 
Yeah, I crossed the line. 

729
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,000
It's three hours and 10 seconds,
but when you upload to Strava, 

730
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,440
your watch tells you you've got 
a PB in the marathon and you've 

731
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:26,080
run 2 hours 5947. 
There's only one answer. 

732
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,480
Liam here. 
I can't claim it. 

733
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,680
You can't claim it, damn it. 
But those who live in the world 

734
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,040
are digital, 100% claim it. 
I mean, this is one of the 

735
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,040
biggest accusations out there of
running. 

736
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,440
But if you're in A, especially 
if you're in a like a certified 

737
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,160
race, yeah, where the course 
should be, right? 

738
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,240
Yeah, it's a bit different of 
this year, you know. 

739
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,840
If you're doing a run off your 
own, yeah, but. 

740
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,520
Because we do know GPS is a 
better same with that's what we 

741
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,480
still want to be able to do is 
get a little bit better 

742
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,080
understanding for people of in 
this Road to Gold Coast series 

743
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,080
or in the beginning runs Gold 
Coast is understanding the 

744
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,840
course and how what goes into 
it, how you measure it. 

745
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,000
Yes we do. 
We do need to get a bit. 

746
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,200
Actually a friend of mine is IF.
You have a course. 

747
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,600
Sorry, jump in. 
If you have a course where there

748
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,920
is a heap of corners and you're 
apexing everything with Agps, 

749
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,280
that's where some of these 
problems come into effect. 

750
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,240
A friend of mine who just 
explained to everybody what 

751
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:28,200
apexing the corners is. 
Like from car racing. 

752
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,640
So what you're going around a 
90° corner. 

753
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,040
Instead of running it a metre 
out like that, measure it a 

754
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,880
metre out from the gutter the 
whole way. 

755
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,080
You literally cut in the 
shortest path possible and take 

756
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,440
it as a straight line. 
OK, so you cut across the the 

757
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,480
apex or the point of the corner 
to take the shortest route. 

758
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,440
What you effectively are doing 
is running shorter than the 

759
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,720
courses being measured every 
time that happens. 

760
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,760
As if. 
As if I didn't have enough to 

761
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,240
worry about about the marathon 
in 12. 

762
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:58,000
Weeks time. 
The good news with Gold Coast is

763
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,320
there isn't a lot of those style
of corners, OK? 

764
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:04,240
Look going back to Ben though. 
Back to Ben. 

765
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,240
Big shout out. 
Love that he's done that. 

766
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,240
Love the yes, I love that you're
using my running cues as a way 

767
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:13,040
to get through it. 
Wonder. 

768
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,240
Which one? 
Which one are you guessing? 

769
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:15,760
Lean forward. 
Lean forward. 

770
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:21,080
For for everyday bodies like me 
and people at my level, The Lean

771
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:26,040
Forward hack late in the race is
a absolute goldmine. 

772
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,960
Yeah, and and I I don't imagine 
on that London landmarks half 

773
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,240
marathon he would have been 
doing too much hills where you 

774
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:34,320
the my other tip was swing the 
arms. 

775
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:36,360
Think about your arms. 
Oh, no problem. 

776
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,520
I'm just thinking on there they 
might go under a few 

777
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,400
underpasses. 
Yeah, maybe Pop maybe 'cause 

778
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,000
he's kind of similar to Brisbane
where you're just going under 

779
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,200
the that brekkie Creek. 
One, Yep 'cause my other running

780
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,400
tip cue that I had was focus on 
your arm so you stop thinking 

781
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,920
about your hats or your legs. 
But I reckon it's the lean 

782
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,920
forward hinge at the hips, 
little bit of lean. 

783
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,960
Forward how good? 
Free speed. 

784
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,560
You're making a difference. 
Liam, there we go. 

785
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,640
You're making. 
A difference 1/2 marathon, Well,

786
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,560
we can't call him a half 
marathon or he didn't run far 

787
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,240
enough. 
Thanks for listening, Benny. 

788
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:04,600
We love that you're getting 
involved. 

789
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,040
We got some more loose ends from
last week though, Courtney. 

790
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:10,720
We do, and this one's mine 
because I brought up the old 

791
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:16,320
Gatorade versus parade battle. 
So Luke Towel got back to us 

792
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,480
boys love the pod, have gone 
back to the eat, gone back to 

793
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,840
the beginning of in the 
beginning and in the middle of 

794
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,040
the land. 
Listening all the way through 

795
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,160
Gatorade over Powerade is a no 
brainer. 

796
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,640
It's fun. 
Nerdy fact is it has about twice

797
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,920
as much sodium as Powerade. 
Sodium salt, right? 

798
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,320
Yeah. 
So this is a good thing. 

799
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,640
Generally, if you're out running
and you're sweating, forget the 

800
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,800
two for forget the two for one 
survey deals. 

801
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:48,120
Cole and Woollies regularly have
them for $2.00 a bottle, which 

802
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,880
is true. 
I do jump all over those 

803
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,200
specials when I see them. 
Do you know Cole's just deleted 

804
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,320
Maximus? 
Oh, no, off the shelf because 

805
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,320
that was the same. 
So I'm relying on two, I'm 

806
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,840
relying on 2 for one. 
But what I got got me interested

807
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,840
because like we have talked a 
bit about this gay raid versus 

808
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,280
parade type thing. 
Another one, oh, sorry, I've 

809
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,360
forgotten who, who actually sent
this to me. 

810
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,920
But it was about how sweet. 
Did he just say that? 

811
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,840
I'm losing my brain. 
Did he just say something about 

812
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,000
sweetness? 
Now he's just talking about 

813
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,960
sodium. 
So someone else sent me someone 

814
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,200
else sent me that they prefer 
Gatorade, that they think 

815
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,880
Powerade always tastes 
sweetener. 

816
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,480
Now there is a reason for that. 
So even though they got the same

817
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,600
amount of sugars in them, 
Gatorade, the sugar comes from 

818
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,920
sucrose and dextrose. 
With Powerade, it's purely high 

819
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,760
fructose corn syrup. 
So really, really it's a 

820
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,160
sweeter. 
So even though it's the same 

821
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,400
amount of sugar, you're going to
get a sweeter taste out of the 

822
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,520
Powerade because it's using the 
high fructose corn syrup. 

823
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,920
I'm not going to get into which 
one of them is better as a 

824
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,480
sugar, but that is the reason 
why you might find. 

825
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,880
No. 
Taste different? 

826
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,120
It's a bit different now. 
OK. 

827
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:08,040
I'm I'm not sure on the sodium 
as much I mean Gatorade has a 

828
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,680
bit more but maybe I'm getting 
the wrong information on this 

829
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,640
Potassium. 
Other interesting one is 

830
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Powerade includes some vitamin 
BS. 

831
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,760
What are they good for? 
Metabolism. 

832
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:30,040
Is it general general making 
helping functions in the body 

833
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,880
work better? 
I've got to be honest, vitamins 

834
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,920
are a real blind spot in my 
knowledge. 

835
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:42,480
Like, I know vitamin C comes 
from oranges, and I know vitamin

836
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,360
D comes from the sun, and that's
about it. 

837
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,800
Well, if you if the old Andy's 
right, and Benita told us this 

838
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,360
not long ago, if you're eating, 
getting all the right food in, 

839
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,320
eating pretty healthy, probably 
shouldn't be too much need to go

840
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,560
over the top of vitamins. 
But anyway, on the sweetness, 

841
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,000
that's maybe why there is some 
people, yeah, some people having

842
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:03,960
a. 
Real preference difference. 

843
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,360
Nice one. 
We got some feedback from 

844
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,200
Christian. 
Now this is, I don't know, he's 

845
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,360
harking back to what are we up 
episode 30 today? 

846
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,400
This is going all the way back 
to episode 21. 

847
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,640
Shout out Christian, this is 
great. 

848
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,520
This is I didn't realise we were
going so global court and we got

849
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,320
a fella running in London 
listening to the podcast and we 

850
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,320
got Christian all the way from 
Canada who is listening back to 

851
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,520
episode 21 today. 
And this is where we talked 

852
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,960
about the you brought the idea 
of which sports gave the longest

853
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,960
lifespan expectancy or increased
your ability to have a lifespan 

854
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,600
a racket sports, which was rapid
racket sports. 

855
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,520
Now, Christian said. 
I haven't read the CDC study on 

856
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,480
life prolongation myself, but 
I'd be interested to look into 

857
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,520
whether factors such as 
socioeconomic status were taken 

858
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,840
into account. 
Brackets. 

859
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,560
By and large, racquet sports 
require people to join high end 

860
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,920
clubs where memberships are MO 
more costly and tend to belong 

861
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,160
to people from wealthier 
backgrounds. 

862
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,600
In healthcare circles, we 
generally learnt that higher 

863
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,760
socioeconomic status equals 
longer life expectancy. 

864
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,720
That is a very good point. 
Yeah, that is a very good point.

865
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:13,920
Seems like some common sense. 
I mean and this is the problem. 

866
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,760
So if. 
You go, if you go racket sports,

867
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,400
I mean, it's not super 
expensive, but it's right. 

868
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,320
You really probably can't like 
where we are. 

869
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:27,000
Let's say our circumstances 
here, if we wanted to go and 

870
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,640
play tennis, it is going to cost
us some money. 

871
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,480
Yeah, it's not a free sport. 
It's not a free sport. 

872
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,720
No, it's not like going and 
having a run around a park or 

873
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:35,720
it's not like going having a 
kick of the so it. 

874
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:39,080
Is interesting that if you 
somehow put a skew on that as 

875
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,600
into the cost and the 
availability of a certain sport 

876
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,360
versus the cost and availability
of like even if you took 

877
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,800
running, because that's what we 
talk about. 

878
00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:51,400
I wonder if weighted that 
actually has a you know, there's

879
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,880
yes, racquet sports have the 
overall life expectancy, but I 

880
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,920
find out what sport would be 
weighted to be the best outcome 

881
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,360
for all. 
You know what? 

882
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,760
And this is what I'll say to 
Christian. 

883
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,960
Anybody else that feels like 
asking these sort of questions? 

884
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,520
If you're smarter than we are, 
it's tough for us to answer 

885
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,880
these questions, right? 
Because, I mean, we can 

886
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,840
hypothesise, but as I've learnt 
when I tried to compare your 

887
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,960
lungs to a toilet, people call 
you out when you say stupid 

888
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,000
stuff. 
Generally doctors. 

889
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,960
Yeah. 
Hey, can we talk some running? 

890
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,720
Yeah. 
Personally, what are you up to? 

891
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:28,400
I had my first run back from 
Kunani. 

892
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,160
Yes. 
Had a full week off, full seven 

893
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,240
days. 
It's sore. 

894
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,880
Really sore. 
Doms were there. 

895
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,880
Doms were there. 
And then I mowed the lawn and I 

896
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,000
thought I'd to to really pull it
back. 

897
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,920
I thought I had ruined our in 
the beginning runs the Gold 

898
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,280
Coast Marathon. 
Series. 

899
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,480
Well, I'd already done that 
because. 

900
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:55,760
You stuffed it by getting 
injured and then so heavy was 

901
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,200
the head for me that wears the 
crown. 

902
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,360
All responsibility on me. 
I mowed the lawn and I woke up 

903
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,720
the next day and I thought I'd 
torn my hamstring just because 

904
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:10,400
of the doms through my quads 
from Kunani and the process of 

905
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,840
mowing the lawn and leaning over
and I was pulling out all the 

906
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,680
doing this crap by hand. 
I thought I'd torn my hamstring 

907
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,920
and I was, I was as nervous as 
I've been. 

908
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,800
I was so concerned about what 
I'd done. 

909
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:28,800
And then I was like, I might 
have stuffed the whole series 

910
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,360
here. 
So I went out, I got a massage, 

911
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,200
I went out for a run and it 
seems OK. 

912
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,320
And I'll let you in on a secret.
Well, I was just as nervous 

913
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,680
because I thought, Oh no, I'm 
the one who put him in this 

914
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:49,520
race, got him to go down there. 
You know, our focus, our focus 

915
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,760
for Liam is the Gold Coast 
Marathon, and here I am. 

916
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,040
It's going to be my fault that 
I've derailed it in the 

917
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,240
beginning. 
No, I think we're I think we're 

918
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:01,400
OK. 
I've gone for that run and it 

919
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:06,360
was a third did now felt OK. 
There was some hamstring 

920
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,480
awareness, but it's pulled up 
really well. 

921
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,400
OK, good news. 
I'm going to keep looking after 

922
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:12,960
it. 
I'm less. 

923
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,040
Stressed. 
Today, be less stressed, be less

924
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,520
stressed. 
So I think, and look, I'm 

925
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,760
talking with Coach Benita and 
you'll hear it on this 

926
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,360
Wednesday's podcast, The 
Converse, and she actually 

927
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:29,800
adjusts this first week of 
training because of this injury.

928
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,000
And this is what we want to do 
with this series is it's live. 

929
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,400
When Benita comes in and chats 
to yourself and Bronte, she is 

930
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,560
giving a live like prescription 
of what you should be doing, 

931
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,480
training, adjusting, giving the 
reasoning behind it. 

932
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,880
You're getting, you're getting 
to eavesdrop on a master coach 

933
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,920
at work before we go to your 
week and I know you still can't 

934
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,240
run, but quick celebrity shout 
out. 

935
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,920
We've gone to London, we've gone
to Canada. 

936
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,640
Quick celebrity shout out to 
David Michael Luttrell, AKA 

937
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,000
Lutzi of Nova, who replied to 
one of our stories the other 

938
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,000
week, sent me a message saying I
think it's when you were giving 

939
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,960
your starting line advice. 
As in, if you've gone, if you 

940
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,360
feel like you've gone out too 
fast, you definitely have. 

941
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,320
If you feel like you're going 
out at the right place, you're 

942
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,280
still too fast. 
If you feel like, jeez, this 

943
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,240
place is slow, probably right, 
you're bet the right pace. 

944
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,280
Nazi sent me a message and said 
I'm not sure I've ever told you 

945
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,440
this, but as a nudgy kid a few 
years older than Courtney, we 

946
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,840
used to get to GPS cross country
meets early just to watch the 

947
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,920
little blonde haired kid from 
Southport school a couple of 100

948
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,160
metres ahead of the pack. 
Did you, did you know, like so 

949
00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:42,760
you went to school with all 
lots? 

950
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,000
It was a different school, but 
you're competing across country.

951
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,240
Yeah. 
Did you? 

952
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,480
Were you aware of how good you 
were at the school cross country

953
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:56,680
meets? 
I suppose yes and no. 

954
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,920
I mean, I can recall the thing 
was I got to when I was the 

955
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,960
young, like when I was in the 
younger grades. 

956
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:07,120
OK, here's the story. 
So the school I went to, we do, 

957
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,480
we did compulsory cadets. 
So we were effectively reserve 

958
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,640
army. 
So every week on one day, on a 

959
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,600
Friday, we'd be dressed. 
Army boots go to school, Army 

960
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,600
we'd have to go to Army camp. 
I hated army camp. 

961
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,600
I was AI was, you know, I'm an 
elite athlete, I'm a runner. 

962
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:28,200
The last place I wanted to be 
was up in the Bush on Army camp.

963
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:34,200
So I can recall when I was in, I
think it was in grade maybe 9, 

964
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:37,000
so 4 years before being a 
senior. 

965
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,640
So about. 14 Yeah. 
And I got a call up and I was 

966
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,080
actually on Army camp and they, 
I got the call up to go and 

967
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:49,440
replace someone from the senior 
team running at whatever it was,

968
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,040
maybe the GPS or the OR the 
regional run mate. 

969
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,560
And I thought I was the bomb 
mate. 

970
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,640
I got to walk out. 
I got driven out. 

971
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,160
I got a yeah, someone came, 
picked me up from the Army camp 

972
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,360
kit, go home, get the running 
gear and I'm off to running. 

973
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,240
And that was probably, you know,
it's those little things that 

974
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:09,760
drive you to want to be 
professional and do all that. 

975
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,360
Yeah. 
But it's those times like that I

976
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,440
might have realised, hey, I'm, 
I'm. 

977
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,120
You're going all right. 
Well, not only going all right, 

978
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,800
but this is actually getting me 
out of doing. 

979
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,960
The better I can do it this, the
less of this stuff I have to do.

980
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,480
There's a life of privilege here
100. 

981
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,760
Percent, but on Lutzi. 
So Lutzi, for those who don't 

982
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,560
know, he's Nova Radio. 
Preki Radio Nova in Brisbane. 

983
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,800
And he's been at that what, 35 
years or something. 

984
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,360
So I met Latzi not through like 
he was older than me at Nudgee 

985
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,760
College in a competitor school, 
but I met him for the first time

986
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,960
when I just left school, going 
out to race triathlon. 

987
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,080
And we were on TV. 
So we used to do that's like you

988
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,560
go out to the Gold Coast Suns 
and see dimmer and that for 

989
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,480
press conferences. 
He came to one of my press 

990
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,880
conferences that we were going 
to race in Brisbane in the 

991
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,960
triathlon the next day. 
Now he in the radio those days 

992
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:04,400
he literally had the the the big
box mic thing and everything. 

993
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,280
He interviewed me. 
As a young boy. 

994
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,720
And that was when I first came 
across last year now where, you 

995
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:11,760
know, a lot of friends. 
Yeah. 

996
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,480
Lutzi's a fixture around he 
there. 

997
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:20,160
There is a man who you talk 
about the die hard athletics 

998
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,040
fans. 
He loves athletics. 

999
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,880
He has a proper passion for the 
sport of athletics. 

1000
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,240
And we should have his pottery 
shout so he himself and someone 

1001
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,240
from the Curie Mail do you know?
They do. 

1002
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,720
I don't want to call it road to 
Brisbane. 

1003
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,040
They do in an Olympic well. 
Oh, towards the game. 

1004
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,560
Towards the game. 
That's what the podcast is 

1005
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,200
called. 
Towards the Games podcast. 

1006
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,240
It's all about passion for 
Brisbane, Brisbane. 

1007
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,480
Number one, that man has. 
And passion for Olympics. 

1008
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,720
Yeah, they're and they're 
talking about the Olympics and 

1009
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:48,080
everything else. 
We probably should go and learn 

1010
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,600
a few things often. 
No, it's a it's a it's a good 

1011
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,960
pod like for you know, everybody
has these throw your hands up. 

1012
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,880
What was me catastrophe moments 
about the Brisbane Olympic 

1013
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,840
Games? 
But theirs is a long term 

1014
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:01,680
consistent view. 
So if you are genuinely 

1015
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,920
interested about the Brisbane 
Olympics and how the city as a 

1016
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,440
whole is going to move towards 
it, it's probably a good podcast

1017
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,080
to lose that without the 
hysteria, yeah. 

1018
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,000
Yeah, yeah, that. 
You're getting from a lot of 

1019
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,640
places that just dip in and out 
of it. 

1020
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,440
And talking about small worlds 
on stories. 

1021
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,560
I'll sit in at Malou, at the pub
at Moolaba. 

1022
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,200
So the surf club, Moolaba surf 
club. 

1023
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,560
And I was having a beer with 
Latzi, then your old colleague 

1024
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,040
Dubbo. 
We're literally talking about 

1025
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,200
this Brisbane, this Brisbane 
Olympic thing that he's doing in

1026
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,840
podcasts. 
This is before we started a 

1027
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:33,520
podcast. 
Yeah. 

1028
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,320
Dubbo comes over, That comes 
over. 

1029
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,120
Hey, fellas, you know, all the 
competitor radio guys in one 

1030
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,440
thing. 
And, you know, it's a small 

1031
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,800
world, isn't it, here in the 
Southeast? 

1032
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,760
It's very small world and and to
that point, radio. 

1033
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,840
Yes, it's competition, but 
there's good people at every 

1034
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,600
station. 
Yep, there's decent people. 

1035
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,600
You know, it's not that serious.
We're not saving the world. 

1036
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,000
What can do you have? 
I mean, I give you these run 

1037
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,320
updates now. 
Do you have what are your 

1038
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,000
updates for me? 
What can you tell us on the 

1039
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,880
injury? 
There's not much going on mate. 

1040
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,960
I'm still resting. 
Good news is I feel I feel good.

1041
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,640
Like like like all the docs and 
and the professionals were 

1042
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,920
telling me I'd probably get 
about two or three weeks into 

1043
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,320
this and think you're ready to 
go. 

1044
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,680
But being obviously a a bone 
reaction, you just got to wait 

1045
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,960
it out. 
So I'm swimming. 

1046
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,080
Yep, no tumble. 
How is that interestingly so I 

1047
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,240
don't, I mean, it's the one 
thing out of everything in 

1048
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:25,600
triathlon that I don't do a lot 
of anymore. 

1049
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,160
Like probably haven't swam in a 
year, right. 

1050
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,320
But funny enough, I jump in the 
lake and, you know, turn the 

1051
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,560
arms over and it just feels like
yesterday. 

1052
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,240
Yeah, probably if I tried to go 
a bit harder, it might be the 

1053
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,040
old VO2. 
Might, might get a hit, the old 

1054
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,360
arms might get hit. 
But it's been pretty good. 

1055
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,800
And then we've got to just, 
we're just going to let it rest 

1056
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,040
a little bit more and then I'll 
get into some light riding. 

1057
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,760
So just on the ergo and then 
into some strength stuff. 

1058
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,200
And hopefully, hey, look, The 
thing is when whenever you get 

1059
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,720
injured like this, and this is 
probably the longest, actually, 

1060
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:58,840
this will be the longest I've 
haven't run. 

1061
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,240
There you go. 
Ever. 

1062
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,840
Ever since I was, this will be 
the longest time I've gone 

1063
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:12,880
without running since I was 13. 
What are you now, 44? 

1064
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,160
Jeez. 
So put, yeah. 

1065
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,600
Wow. 
And it's not, it's not a 

1066
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,680
problem. 
Like I'm actually fine with it. 

1067
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,320
The one thing is, and doing this
podcast like we do it too is 

1068
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,760
starting to realise how quickly 
six weeks goes flies by. 

1069
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,880
Yeah. 
So like, I'm pretty much halfway

1070
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,280
through the rest anyway. 
Flies by a few. 

1071
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,640
Holidays over Easter and before 
I know it, I'll be back back 

1072
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,600
running. 
That's one thing that freaked me

1073
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,000
out a little bit the other day 
and it's amazing. 

1074
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,080
The time resting goes by quick, 
right? 

1075
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:53,640
Yeah, this week post Kanani I, 
the one we, I had a week off and

1076
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,080
I went and went for my run 
yesterday, that first run, but I

1077
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,520
was like, holy hell, like, has 
that been a week already? 

1078
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,440
I feel like like Kanani was 2 
days ago and I'm already back 

1079
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,440
running. 
And then I thought about 12 

1080
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,920
weeks leading into Gold Coast, 
I'm like, oh, that's going to go

1081
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,320
so quickly. 
He's going to go very quickly. 

1082
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,000
So make sure you're following 
along on the Wednesday episode. 

1083
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:15,960
Yeah. 
Just just focus on those. 

1084
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,000
Long runs now. 
Focus on the long runs. 

1085
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,760
We've we love, I mean, shout out
to Ben who broke new ground on 

1086
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,760
the podcast this week by sending
us an audio message. 

1087
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,800
And again, if you want to send 
audio messages in, we are now 

1088
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,440
taking them. 
This feels I love that we're 

1089
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,920
doing this audio messages so you
can send those through to the 

1090
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,320
Instagram. 
It's the best way to do it. 

1091
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:42,200
Armadale is is is fast becoming 
out the number what the capital 

1092
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:48,000
of in the beginning podcast as 
far as events go and Ryan Kelso 

1093
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,200
is probably at least on the 
board of the in the beginning 

1094
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:55,600
listener committee. 
Yeah, I think once once we go 

1095
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,880
public, he will definitely need 
to get a seat. 

1096
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,400
Yeah. 
But Ryan, for those you might 

1097
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,320
have followed on along previous 
episodes, big supporter of the 

1098
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,280
podcast regularly messages in 
engages in a really great way. 

1099
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,520
And he set up the Armadale 
Running Festival. 

1100
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,800
He's created this event. 
We talked about it on the last 

1101
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:18,000
episode, 14th and 15th of March.
It's an epic looking Instagram 

1102
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,000
page. 
He's done a great job and he is 

1103
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,200
trying to build the running 
community in Armadale, which is 

1104
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,880
great. 
And he's created this festival 

1105
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,560
for next year now. 
I said last week when you told 

1106
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,160
me about this that we should go 
down there next year. 

1107
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:35,320
Yeah, and I was. 
Like and you were lukewarm at 

1108
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,440
best. 
Well I was like just settle 

1109
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,760
before we start throwing out. 
You were. 

1110
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,200
You were. 
Throwing out things that we 

1111
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,280
can't you were lukewarm at. 
Best. 

1112
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,880
Commit to I was lukewarm. 
And Ryan has heard this, 

1113
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:51,000
Courtney and Ryan has responded 
right. 

1114
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,200
And he said, boys, that shout 
out was fire. 

1115
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,760
I can see we have Liam on the 
hook, but I know Courtney needs 

1116
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,600
a little more. 
So be prepared for the best 

1117
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,080
plug. 
Been thinking about this all 

1118
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,640
day. 
It's like an engagement and I 

1119
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,760
know I only get one shot, so 
brace yourselves. 

1120
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,520
I love this rhyme. 
This is excellent over the next 

1121
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,880
few messages because it's quite 
a message. 

1122
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,960
You're going to feel excitement 
like never before. 

1123
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,280
You're going to wish this thing 
was two weeks away, not 11 

1124
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,400
months. 
And I can already see Courtney 

1125
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,560
packing those rank recovery 
slides to take on the streets of

1126
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,240
Armadale. 
Here's the pitch. 

1127
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,520
So prepare yourself in the 
beginning, family, because this 

1128
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,600
is Ryan Kelso's pitch to us to 
get us involved with the 

1129
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,160
Armadale Running Festival next 
year. 

1130
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,920
We've got a weekend lined up in 
Armadale that's all about 

1131
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,360
community good times running and
making it something the whole 

1132
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,200
family can enjoy. 
And we'd love to have you guys 

1133
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,400
involved. 
Friday afternoon we're kicking 

1134
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,920
things off with a fun little 
community shakeout run from the 

1135
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,720
brewery and back. 
Just a cruisy 1 to get the legs 

1136
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,240
moving on the weekend started. 
Now Courtney, I will say at any 

1137
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,080
point during this pitch, jump in
with how you're feeling. 

1138
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,520
Brewery. 
OK, it's a good start. 

1139
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,960
Friday night we'll be at the 
Welders Dog Brewery for sign on 

1140
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:02,240
and it'll be a bit of a party. 
There'll be live music, fresh 

1141
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,960
pizza and we're planning a boat 
race competition. 

1142
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,400
OK, so a bit of drinking too. 
We'll make teams and either do a

1143
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,000
lap of the block where you run 
through a brewery, Scull a beer 

1144
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,840
and pass a baton or 100 metre 
race down the closed off road. 

1145
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,600
Council's given us the green 
light to shut it down for a 

1146
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,600
couple of hours. 
Either way, it's going to be a 

1147
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:19,800
laugh. 
That's. 

1148
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,640
Friday sounds like great prep 
for a marathon. 

1149
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,080
Saturday is the big Community 
Day picture of proper Country 

1150
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,640
market set up with a running 
festival happening alongside it.

1151
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,440
We're talking food stores, local
business stores, coffee vans, 

1152
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,160
drink stands, ice cream truck, 
everything we can pack in. 

1153
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,160
We'll also have a kid zone with 
a jumping castle, face painting,

1154
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,440
play areas and picnic spots so 
families can settle in and enjoy

1155
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,880
the day on the big grassy area 
around the park. 

1156
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:48,520
Saturday's events are a free 1K 
run for kids under 8A3, KA 5K 

1157
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:49,760
and A10K. 
You're. 

1158
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:50,720
Right. 
So that's Saturday. 

1159
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:51,200
OK. 
Right. 

1160
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,440
OK, Family Day. 
Then on Sunday it's half 

1161
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,480
marathon day, same community 
vibes, all the stores and 

1162
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,360
attractions still going. 
A few extra things you to get 

1163
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,640
you thinking. 
The crew from Cat Machinery are 

1164
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:08,320
on board and are keen. 
Oh cat, Cat now. 

1165
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,600
Yeah, Cat. 
Category. 

1166
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,320
Ryan Courtneys Eyes of litter am
I? 

1167
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,360
You've got me. 
We're going listen to this. 

1168
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,040
We're going to run a Clydesdale 
class and park a big cat machine

1169
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,360
at the event for the kids to 
check out and take photos with. 

1170
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,640
That is gold. 
The cat Clydesdales. 

1171
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,560
That is gold. 
There you go, this is the big 

1172
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,000
boy. 
That's the hundred KG plus 

1173
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,360
thing. 
I might have to get eating. 

1174
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,480
He continues. 
There's still more. 

1175
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,320
We're getting local schools to 
decorate big real estate signs 

1176
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,720
and align the courses with them.
Just another way to show off how

1177
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,800
awesome this town is. 
He's spoken to the school 

1178
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,160
principals and they're keen to 
get school groups involved in 

1179
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,480
the kids run. 
They'll be running in their 

1180
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,080
school sports uniforms and we'll
have ribbons for them too. 

1181
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,440
The whole thing is family 
focused, so once your bag's 

1182
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,000
packed, start packing the 
families too. 

1183
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,960
And now for the final sale. 
Prepare yourself. 

1184
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,800
Holy, I haven't read this yet. 
Have you read all this? 

1185
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,320
Oh no, I'd like to keep this is 
Oh no, I haven't read it. 

1186
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,960
I didn't know about this next 
bit. 

1187
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,320
OK. 
The boys at The Welders Dog are 

1188
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:14,200
keen to do a special batch of In
the Beginning podcast beer for 

1189
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,520
the event. 
Jeez. 

1190
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,160
You guys can design the branding
and have a bit of fun with it, 

1191
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,720
but they are super keen and can 
do whatever you want. 

1192
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,240
We can then use it for the 
Friday night beer races and you 

1193
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,240
boys can be team captains for 
another little rivalry game. 

1194
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,920
Accommodation question mark 
sorted. 

1195
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,640
Got a mate who runs a motel and 
he's happy to put you and the 

1196
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:40,240
families up. 
And finally, if you both run the

1197
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:44,240
half and one of you beats the 
other, whoever wins, I'll get an

1198
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:50,520
ITB 21.1 Winner's Name champion 
tattoo on my ass. 

1199
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,760
Let's make it happen. 
This is. 

1200
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,520
I don't know about the tattoo. 
I don't. 

1201
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,040
Know about the tattoo, but the. 
Beer can is a hell of a 

1202
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,720
character dangle. 
No, I'm going to show you. 

1203
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,480
What do you reckon about that on
a beer can? 

1204
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,760
Oh I know I should be showing 
that yet. 

1205
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,520
Been working on a little 
something And when did? 

1206
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,240
You draw that up. 
And maybe This is why I was 

1207
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,600
doing it. 
This is a little new logo I've 

1208
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,480
sent Liam because I think we 
kind of started this podcast 

1209
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,480
where we just like, let's just 
do it and we didn't really plan 

1210
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,200
on it too much. 
OK, but it's got to the stage. 

1211
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,920
Where I thought we actually need
to have something. 

1212
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,320
That, that, that, that logo 
which will keep quiet. 

1213
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:37,680
I think you might have to blur 
the camera on a beer can would 

1214
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,640
look unbelievable. 
It's definitely I'm still on the

1215
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,280
hook at the moment. 
So that's definitely, that's a 

1216
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,920
good pitch isn't it Ryan? 
Anyone in business out? 

1217
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:53,400
There, Ryan, standby. 
Standby. 

1218
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,000
You reckon we could? 
I'm in. 

1219
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,760
We said we're not really in 
heavy machinery. 

1220
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:04,680
I am in like I'm, I'm in. 
And what the what I will say is 

1221
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,240
I think we've got enough lead 
time. 

1222
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,000
We've got almost a year. 
I think we could make this 

1223
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,000
happen. 
I mean, look, we're in the 

1224
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,360
middle of doing in the beginning
runs the Gold Coast Marathon. 

1225
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,680
In the beginning, let's. 
See if we can't find a partner 

1226
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,720
for In the Beginning Runs 
Armadale Running Festival. 

1227
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,680
Right Ryan, that is a pitch and 
1/2. 

1228
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,280
It's great pitch, Ryan, if 
you're on. 

1229
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,520
I I hard to excite me, but you 
got me on the. 

1230
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,000
The beer can. 
The beer can. 

1231
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,920
If, if, if you're on Shark Tank,
Ryan, I'm still in, right? 

1232
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:42,320
We've got a gear to talk about 
this. 

1233
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,920
One, I've got a concept in gear.
Jeez. 

1234
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,760
So going back, we mentioned 
triathlon earlier on. 

1235
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:56,080
Being a little bit envious of 
running at the moment, can you 

1236
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,480
explain what a triathlete 
weighs? 

1237
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,440
Try athlete wears a suit. 
Try a suit. 

1238
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,240
You'll need goggles and a swim 
cap during the swim. 

1239
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,000
Then in transition onto the 
bike, you'll put your bike shoes

1240
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,880
on. 
Socks for your amateurs like me.

1241
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,840
You put a helmet on, but you. 
Wear the one thing that may, 

1242
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:12,640
Yeah. 
You're in a suit, you're gonna 

1243
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:13,600
swim right the whole way 
through. 

1244
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,880
Can you imagine a suit for 
running? 

1245
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,120
So we wear, so we go out on it. 
This is probably more trail 

1246
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,480
running I'm talking about here 
now. 

1247
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,320
So you, when we go out trail 
running like you did on the 

1248
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,680
weekend, you had the Salomon 
vest on. 

1249
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:27,800
Just kidded. 
Yep. 

1250
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,600
You had a few bottles in there 
too. 

1251
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:30,720
Yep. 
Weigh you down. 

1252
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:32,680
What else did you have to wear? 
You had. 

1253
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,960
To I've still got your mandatory
gear stuff that you had. 

1254
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,400
Your space blanket? 
Yes. 

1255
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,240
Snake bandage? 
A fair bit of gear. 

1256
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:42,920
You've got a cart up, quite a 
bit of kit. 

1257
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,240
What about if you could just put
that into your race? 

1258
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:50,480
Suit Nah, don't like it first 
first reaction don't like it No,

1259
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,200
no. 
I'll tell you why you. 

1260
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,120
Don't want to run in Lycra? 
No, I'll tell you why. 

1261
01:03:55,120 --> 01:04:03,240
Because I, that gives my brain a
sense of claustrophobia, the 

1262
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,640
fact that everything's enclosed 
and I couldn't take any of it 

1263
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:11,040
off if I couldn't separate 
myself from the weight of it 

1264
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,240
all. 
My brain, that's what my brain 

1265
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,240
is doing right now. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1266
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,800
I'm getting a little bit 
claustrophobic, you know? 

1267
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,760
That you know the you know the 
Solomon, the shorts because 

1268
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,080
they've got the pockets, both 
sides amazing, they're amazing 

1269
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,120
and they hold well. 
Like this is just on this. 

1270
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,640
This is taking it to the next 
level of imagine having a whole 

1271
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:28,720
suit. 
Right. 

1272
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,600
Can I ask a question? 
This is the I, this is I'm doing

1273
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,760
this a lot this year in all my 
walks of life. 

1274
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,000
I'm doing it at home with staff 
and I'm doing it at work with 

1275
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,280
stuff. 
And I'm going to do it with you 

1276
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,640
right now, Courtney, for the 
first time. 

1277
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,200
Why? 
Why do this? 

1278
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:51,480
Why create this? 
Is it necessary it for an? 

1279
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:56,440
Elite it could be lighter not 
carrying a vest. 

1280
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,880
Let's answer your question is I 
hate it too. 

1281
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,960
I got out of that. 
I don't want to wear Lycra. 

1282
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,560
I don't want to. 
Wear lycra. 

1283
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,640
So Can you imagine what I'm 
thinking? 

1284
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:13,240
Anyone listening just think it's
like a Lycra Tri suit with arms 

1285
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,000
and it's got pockets, pockets. 
It's got pockets built in 

1286
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,800
everywhere. 
That was what in my head where I

1287
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,600
was thinking. 
Can we quickly talk about your 

1288
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:21,840
lycra days? 
Yeah. 

1289
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,640
How? 
What was it like that That was 

1290
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,520
your uniform? 
Just Lycra? 

1291
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,720
I've never really thought about 
it, but the one thing that 

1292
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,040
happens is when someone goes, 
are you concerned about, you 

1293
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,120
know, like in normal everyday 
life, if you had your shirt off 

1294
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:41,720
or, you know, wearing a pair of,
yeah, just underpants or 

1295
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,680
whatever, like wearing your 
underpants around. 

1296
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,960
I'm like, oh, I spent 20 years 
of my life on on international 

1297
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,120
TV running around. 
In Lyra and Lyra, what did you 

1298
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,480
wear underneath? 
Nothing. 

1299
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,320
Did you go, you freeball? 
Oh. 

1300
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,200
Of course, really. 
But we had a little pad. 

1301
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,600
Like a Did everybody free ball? 
Not everyone. 

1302
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,800
So there was a suit that came 
out called. 

1303
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,800
It was a brand called. 
It was a French brand called 0D.

1304
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,760
OK. 
Or zerod 0D or zerod and they 

1305
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,520
brought out this new material 
that was like it was instead of 

1306
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,920
lycra. 
It was like a paper thin wafer 

1307
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:17,480
style material and that left 
nothing to the imagination. 

1308
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,560
Really. 
So guys were wearing Dickies 

1309
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,880
underneath those suits because 
it was ridiculously thin. 

1310
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,040
Yeah. 
And I wore one of those suits 

1311
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,680
in. 
I'm just trying to think what 

1312
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,200
games actually going back now. 
Here's one. 

1313
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,560
Here's a bit of Undercover. 
Stuff. 

1314
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,800
Here we go. 
If you've lasted this far into 

1315
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,800
the episode, here's something 
you won't hear about at the 

1316
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:41,400
Olympics every day. 
So when we wore our race suits 

1317
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,160
at the Olympics, they had to be 
added as. 

1318
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:50,280
They weren't added as they were 
white branded to normal suits 

1319
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,640
we'd wear and plastered with 
added us on. 

1320
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,080
Added us. 
Didn't make the suits for us. 

1321
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,120
Because their suit. 
Because they didn't make suits 

1322
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,720
or. 
No, they made suits. 

1323
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,480
I wore an added suit in one 
Olympics, but in the other 

1324
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,560
Olympics we chose another brand 
to wear and just labelled them 

1325
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:10,400
added us. 
So when you saw that 

1326
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:11,840
performance? 
And was that OK? 

1327
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:17,120
Yes, because it was a piece of 
technical equipment, but because

1328
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,920
it was technical equipment of a 
uniforms. 

1329
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,480
And this is where it gets a bit.
Tricky. 

1330
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,560
Because it's uniform, right? 
It's got Australia on it, it's 

1331
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:29,280
got the national emblem on it. 
It had to still be spot of the 

1332
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,240
sponsored kit of the Australian 
team, so it was labelled as the 

1333
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,920
Australian sponsor. 
However, it was not. 

1334
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,560
It wasn't actually Boss wasn't 
that brand. 

1335
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,200
No, that's interesting. 
There's a little behind the 

1336
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,040
scenes peek. 
I speaking behind the scenes 

1337
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,040
peek. 
I don't understand how you 

1338
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,440
confidently run around in those 
things. 

1339
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,240
Free balling. 
I choose not to wear like or as 

1340
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,600
much as I can. 
I can't. 

1341
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,400
That's why I like me out of 
yeah, Baggies. 

1342
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:58,240
You have had a little little 
accident on in TV any of the 

1343
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,240
coverage. 
I'm just thinking because Sam 

1344
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,240
Lawler, the Richmond young fella
in his first game, opening game 

1345
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,280
of the season, celebrating a 
goal and I saw that yeah, yeah, 

1346
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,920
little Sammy jumped out and said
out of the 80,000 plus and 

1347
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,600
turned up at the. 
MC So what wasn't he wearing? 

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Dax I don't know. 
We're going down. 

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We're we're going DVD I think. 
It's time. 

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Yeah. 
Hey, that's all that's wrapped 

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up for today, episode 30. 
We're loving the support. 

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The podcast keeps growing. 
The in the beginning runs, the 

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Gold Coast Marathon series. 
We're having a lot of fun with 

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it. 
Something new. 

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The best way you can continue to
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Keep telling people, share the 

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If you want to get involved, we 
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I keep forgetting that bit. 
Go subscribe. 

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We'll see you next week. 
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