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F21 in the beginning, Courtney. 
Another week come around quick. 

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Another week. 
These weeks are flying by for me

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at the moment. 
Yeah, well, new job, Yeah, got 

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so much going on busy. 
Do you know what I'm missing? 

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Are you busy or just? 
Yeah, just I was thinking about 

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this as I was driving here. 
My days are full now. 

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They start early and they seem 
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they did previously. 
Because I used to work on the 

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afternoon shift. 
I would spend all day thinking 

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about that and I would say no to
doing things because I'd have to

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go to work sort of in the 1st 12
hours of the day. 

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Yep, now that my work day is 
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these people are asking me to do
things and I'm saying yes to 

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them. 
And then you've got all day to 

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do them. 
And then I've got all day to do 

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them and then it still gets to 
8:00 at night and I'm like, what

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happened? 
And and then I'm getting. 

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You to do extra stuff. 
No, no, no, this is an extra 

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stuff for me. 
This is my passion, Courtney. 

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OK, OK, we got we got lost to 
get through today. 

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Let's just jump straight in 
because we've got some feedback 

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and there's a story that you 
need to hear in the in the 

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beginning family needs to hear 
about as well. 

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Now Jordan Barter, who he was 
the one who previously told us 

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about the race that he and his 
dad used to do. 

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Where the horse around the 
horse? 

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Tracks run around the horse. 
Tracks jump on a train, next 

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horse track, run around the 
horse track, next track. 

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Happened in Sydney. 
Anyway, I know Jordan from 

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Sydney, but he and his cousin 
Maddie Jenkins, they've, they're

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big fans of the podcast and 
Jordan has jumped back on and he

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wanted to dust and it's a great 
story. 

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So just bear with me. 
This is from Jordan. 

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He says back when travel was 
just starting to take off about 

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12 years ago, my mates and I 
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of segments around Malabar 
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For those of you in Sydney, it's
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there. 
This was before they built any 

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fancy graded footpaths and you'd
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there. 
Now again, to jump off Jordan's 

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story for a moment, these that 
Headland has got this beautiful.

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Boardwalk duck boards ever since
COVID. 

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Popular as ever. 
It's an incredible running spot,

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that coastal run, beautiful 
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You end up down at La Perouse, 
Bear Island there, it's awesome.

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You run through the golf 
courses, it's great. 

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Anyway, back to Jordan's story. 
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these segments had turned on 
into a friendly but very serious

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competition between us. 
One day I was out running the 

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headland when some random bloke 
absolutely blitzed past me. 

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I figured he was just showing 
off because you know, when you 

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see another runner you naturally
crank it up to Olympic level. 

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He looked familiar, but I didn't
think much of it. 

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Later that night I was just 
chilling at home when my phone 

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started buzzing like crazy. 
I glanced down and the screen 

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was absolutely flooded with 
Strava notifications. 

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Oh. 
I know where this is going. 

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Courtney Atkinson stole your 
segment. 

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Courtney Atkinson stole your 
segment. 

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Courtney Atkinson stole your 
segment. 

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At first, Jordan goes on to say 
I was in denial. 

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Who the hell is Courtney 
Atkinson and why is he ruining 

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my life? 
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Courtney Atkinson, The Olympian,
The actual real life 

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professional endurance machine 
who's sponsored by Red Bull. 

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I sat there steering my phone, 
feeling like a child who had 

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just had their ice cream stolen 
by Usain Bolt. 

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The worst part? 
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There was no getting those 
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Ever. 
We were about each of weekend 

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warriors going up against the 
guy who literally made a career 

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out of being faster than other 
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To this day, none of us ever got
those segments back. 

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I'm pretty sure Courtney still 
has most of them. 

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Still probably doesn't even 
remember. 

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But we do. 
Oh, we do. 

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Oh. 
Jordan, I'm sorry mate, you know

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what, But I consider myself, I'm
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purposely going there. 
That is my local. 

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When I'm in Sydney, I I try and 
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I run down to Malabar Headland. 
That's where I do my efforts. 

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And I feel, yeah, I don't know 
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interested to know whether they 
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are going in after COVID. 
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the, the trail is no longer a 
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on, you know, springboards 
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It's still a beautiful run, but 
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trail and you'd like fling 
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going that quick and then 
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someone just pops up in front of
you, you're dodging it's. 

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I love the idea that he thought 
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that you were racing him like 
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he looked, he's looked at you as
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passing on just mate, don't be 
that guy. 

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He's like, I own the segment. 
Don't be that guy. 

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I create. 
I not, I'm not. 

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I don't just own these segments.
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you're just telling them off 
him. 

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Yeah, well, I'm sorry Jordan, 
but I'll be back down this year.

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I'm sure someone's probably 
taken them off me by now. 

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Oh, I've got no doubt there 
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just quickly, fella by the name 
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If you're a runner in the Sydney
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issues, you might have visited 
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He's part of the running room 
physio, which is the same team 

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that supported Ned Brockman 
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Paddy, great runner, great 
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taking. 
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ambassador as well, but he's 
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He and his partner are 
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Oh how good. 
And he is segment sniping. 

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He is saying that he's one man's
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crowns all around this country. 
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and he's looking at the heat 
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Yeah, and he's and he's going 
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You've been down in Tassie and 
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To go and check it out, see 
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See what he's picking off? 
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I promise he's not doing them on
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He can actually run quite well, 
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It's all about Jordan not 
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That's fine, I'm more than happy
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got to. 
I want to have a discussion 

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about a Hedges Ave around a 
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know, on the Gold Coast is 
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It is a single lane Rd which is 
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It has one lane for cars, one 
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metre and a half wide for bikes?
Run runs between Miami and 

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Broadbeach. 
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is literally off the road, which
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tile wide. 
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what a, it's what a for most 
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But I know what you mean. 
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And so you ought to fit cars, 
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And this week, there was an 
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out by the Gold Coast Bulletin. 
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caused a bit of commotion down 
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Did you talk about this on the 
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Yeah, we did. 
Oh, you did. 

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Yeah, we did. 
We asked Tommy Tate. 

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We asked Tom Tate, the mayor of 
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So sorry. 
Tell us. 

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Well, better tell everyone what 
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so this basically this video of 
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running in the bike path mm hmm 
should be said the runner going 

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in the bike path he. 
Is in the bike path. 

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He is in the bike path. 
Two cyclists going the opposite 

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way in the bike path. 
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And basically this runner makes 
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to move, so he shirt fronts. 
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bars up, He braces with his 
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cyclist, which in turn knocks 
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Run and looks back and keeps on 
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Yeah, he's, he's, he's Now this 
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Did he just stand his ground or 
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in? 
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in this clip, before you tell me
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what's interesting in this clip 
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What do you mean? 
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They don't actually show you 
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onto the road and then this 
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They cut it as he's already in 
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Yeah. 
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this whole situation is he 
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the cyclist even after 
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You know whether there's 
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running, which is a problem to. 
Me. 

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I agree. 
But again, they didn't show what

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happened after he's quickly ran 
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Did he then decide, you know, so
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But what did a good mayor have 
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Tommy Tate, the mayor of the 
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acknowledge the video but said 
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wider ocean way to be built in 
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They can't. 
They're not going to go around 

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the front of the houses, even 
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So at the moment, if you don't 
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are on the beach essentially 
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It's public land, but there is 
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their homes. 
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Coast, the Ocean Way, the 
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built in front of the homes on 
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But because this is the high 
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area who carry a lot of 
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and have the power to say we 
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going in front of our houses. 
The footpath ain't going to go 

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there. 
It's going to go around onto 

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hedges. 
So it is not a a true ocean way 

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in the sense in that it is 
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So Tom has basically said that 
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footpath will go. 
Yep. 

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But his reasoning is because if 
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those houses, Mother Nature will
have its way with it. 

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Yeah, right. 
Well, we'll leave that debate 

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out of it. 
Sure. 

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There will be runners on the 
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that response. 
And if they missed, you missed 

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your radio show because I hadn't
heard that. 

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Yeah, but. 
Basically, you'll never be out 

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of the footpath, will never 
allow you to run with the beach 

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on your left the whole way of 
the ghost. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
I mean, I think they just need a

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solution to to fix. 
The congestion. 

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Congestion of the yeah, the 
traffic, but what I was going 

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with this one. 
So, you know, people disagree. 

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You know, it was a writer's 
fault. 

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Run. 
It's just the old scenario of 

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whose fault it is. 
And you know, no one's probably 

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gonna know. 
Like I said, it's a a very 

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chopped up clip, however, and no
one should run off after an 

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accident. 
No, that let's let's make that 

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clear too. 
You should at least go and check

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even if you've done the wrong or
right thing, whatever it is. 

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What got me though is if you've 
watched the clip, there's a, 

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there's a young girl walking 
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and does not even flinch. 
So she's on the footpath. 

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But what I, I, I really watch 
this about 138 times, not 

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watching the accident, watching 
this girl, she's walking and you

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think if there was like 2 
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you fell on the ground, you'd at
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Look, you'd, I would probably 
like, I think put in a little 

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few steps to like nearly try and
catch them. 

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Hell, whatever it is. 
That's just a natural reaction. 

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This. 
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It got me thinking, you know, if
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riding up behind her and had the
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not going to get out of the way,
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This is why it becomes so 
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if I ever found myself on a road
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always be walking towards the 
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You should always be walking 
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traffic so you can see it 
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Yep. 
And move accordingly. 

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Right, And I watched that video 
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the edit, all the rest of it. 
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responsibility. 
That is that runner's 

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responsibility to get out of the
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He's doing the right thing in 
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traffic against the traffic, so 
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But that is a bike lane, right? 
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swerved into a bike lane and 
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car's fault. 
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created on the coast 
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cyclists. 
Not to side with the cycles 

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against the runners here, but 
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cyclist, that runner, and 
whether he braced or 

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aggressively went into he 
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So it was like if it was a the 
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the car and a car, would the car
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take action? 
I would I would expect the car 

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to avoid. 
Yep, the I would expect. 

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The So would you then to expect 
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the one to avoid? 
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action. 
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car, if you're driving the car, 
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You are literally you're a 
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Yeah, right. 
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about those cyclists. 
But at the same time, this, the 

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runner has moved into the 
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cyclists were travelling at a 
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mentioned that pedestrian in the
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discussing the JFK 
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But maybe for a moment, if that 
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he came onto the cyclist's path 
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the back of her, guess what? 
You do, you slow down. 

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Yeah, you slow down to a walk so
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till the cyclists go past. 
It is that is not an acceptable 

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action to take to bump a bar to 
shirt front somebody coming 

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towards you on a on a bar. 
It's just not, it's not cricket.

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It's that is not fair and 
reasonable. 

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But it goes back to many 
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discussed the idea that maybe 
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with running cyclists used to be
Public Enemy number one. 

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This might be just another 
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areas where running is just is 
overcrowded, people who don't 

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run might be Jack of runners. 
Yeah, I probably didn't want to 

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run around down hedges. 
No, last week. 

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No, no. 
But we'll put that in the notes 

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and let us have a look. 
Have a have a look at it and let

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let us know what you think. 
The next one. 

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Have you seen this around these 
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So they're ultra runners and 
they're running for free 

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burritos. 
How how far would you run for a 

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free? 
Oh sorry, a burrito per week? 

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1 free burrito per week in a 
year. 

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How far would you run for that? 
So explain to me the rules. 

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If I run, I get a free burrito 
every week. 

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If I hit a certain distance, no.
You, if you are the person who 

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can run the most distance. 
Yeah. 

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On a particular Strava segment. 
OK, if I. 

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Become the local legend. 
You become the local legend for 

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that month. 
Yep, we will give you do. 

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Do you know this company in the 
States? 

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Chipotle. 
Yep. 

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Mm hmm, they will give. 
You. 

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Is that 'cause you didn't think 
you'd pronounce it right? 

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100%, yeah. 
Do you know this? 

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I'm, I'm, I'm learning this each
week, Liam. 

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I know, I know, I know when to 
delegate across the table. 

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As transparent as glass. 
They're caught. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
OK. 

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OK. 
So if yeah, so like you, if you 

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can win this run the most on 
this segment for the month, you 

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get free burrito for the rest of
the year each week. 

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I'm not even starting. 
I'm not even starting this 

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challenge. 
You're not starting this 

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challenge because, and I'll tell
you why, because I'm not a 

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runner who is if, if it gets 
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there's going to be better 
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And if it's a choice between 
winning a free burrito and 

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boring myself to death on the 
same segment for a month and 

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buying my burrito for maybe 15 
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to diversify my running for the 
month, it's a pretty easy choice

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for me. 
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These Strava challenges have 
gone to the next level, so they 

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put ones on. 
It was in all different cities, 

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but this particular showdown 
between two runners in Where Are

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We, Tempe, Tempe, Tempe. 
Colorado. 

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Tempe Tempe. 
They have run more than 700 

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miles each. 
What's that in kilometres? 

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Down a 354 metre section. 
It's over 1000 kilometres. 

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Done up and down a 354 centre. 
What got me was too. 

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It doesn't count both ways. 
What do you mean? 

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So the segment is start to 
finish. 

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So then you gotta go back. 
You gotta go back. 

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This is, and to be clear, this 
is for one burrito 50. 

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Two free burritos. 
For the year. 

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Valued at 719. 
I'm still on the USUS dollars. 

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I'm still not doing it. 
I'm still not doing it. 

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Hell no, I'm still not doing it.
Hell no, this even got like they

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ended up someone flew in and 
live streamed it anyway, but 

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this? 
Is this this comes back to the 

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idea of runners reward. 
We talked a bit about this last 

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week when we went off on the 
tangent of what something more 

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than a medal or a T shirt could 
they OfferUp at the end of the 

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runs. 
Look, I'll be honest, I'd rather

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get 52 free burritos than a 
medal. 

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I would I'd rather if that was 
what was on offer, if we 

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finished the Gold Coast Marathon
this year, I'd be right on 

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board. 
But I'm not, I'm not running 

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1000 for for 52 burritos. 
I'm just no, I'm out. 

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Like again, maybe they don't 
have families, but I'm out on 

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that. 
We talk about jump ahead. 

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Did you have, you know, we're 
talking about last week what you

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get at our end of the race? 
Yeah, right. 

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We're talking about, you know, 
race medals and all of that. 

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Now this is this is good so. 
This is next level. 

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Sally, who has already written 
into the podcast a couple of 

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times, involved with the Goldie 
Marathon. 

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She told us that her PB and the 
10K she ran in Newtons, which is

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the old school shoe that you've 
got in your shoe museum out in 

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the garage. 
Sally went off the back of last 

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week's discussion about Marathon
MERS. 

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Well, I ran into her in them up 
in the forest on. 

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Sunday. 
Oh, right. 

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Yep. 
She and she was listening to us.

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This she left an amazing comment
about she's run the Nagoya 

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Marathon which is in Japan. 
You ever you know much about the

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Nagoya Marathon? 
I've been to Nagoya, don't know 

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much about the marathon. 
Right. 

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Well, she left this. 
I'm bringing this up on my phone

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because I want to get it right. 
So she has run the Nagoya 

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Women's Marathon and she said 
this was the best finishing gift

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she has ever received. 
It was a Tiffany necklace. 

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A Tiffany necklace presented by 
a man in a tuxedo. 

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Just classy, like it and she 
still wears it. 

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And this is the bit I like about
it and this is the if you're a 

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race organiser, this is the key 
part of Sally's comment and I 

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think of the attitude towards 
runners as well. 

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She said she still wears it and 
it's like she's part of a secret

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sisterhood when she spots other 
women wearing 1. 

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So that right there, in a sense 
is what run clubs are all about,

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why people enter marathons and 
why they then wear the shirts 

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and why they still wear the caps
when they run and where why 

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people have noose triathlons 
out. 

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Because it's about, yes, it's 
about letting people know that 

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you've done it, but it's also 
about that camaraderie and 

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feeling like you're a part of a 
club. 

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Yeah. 
And the specialness, to go back 

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to Sally's example of a Tiffany 
necklace. 

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I did a bit of research on the 
Nagoya Marathon because when I 

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heard they would give it was 
Tuxedo Guys. 

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How many do they give? 
When I looked up and there was a

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people wearing tuxedo, I was 
giving out Tiffany necklace. 

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I thought Sally might be drunk, 
but it's it's true. 

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They've given out necklaces. 
They've also obviously got a bit

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more popular because they 
stopped giving out Nexus and 

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started giving out pendants, 
almost like charms that you see 

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on the charm bracelets. 
Still Tiffany Bonjour. 

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So still a really special 
keepsake. 

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They're stuck with the event, 
yeah. 

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This year it's a Baccarat 
tumbler. 

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Now Baccarat is kind of that 
deluxe homewares brand really, 

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really nice. 
So when you say it's when you 

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say a tumbler like a coffee cup,
yeah. 

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But I imagine it's going to be 
and I it's in this beautiful red

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box. 
I imagine it's going to be like 

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your your classic drink water 
out of glass tumbler. 

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A tumbler glass that will have a
Nagoya Marathon branding on it, 

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interestingly. 
How much is it to? 

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I was going to. 
I'm glad you asked ¥17,500. 

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70,176. 
About 180 bucks. 

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Good. 
Value about 180 bucks. 

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That is great. 
That's. 

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For this year now I don't know 
what it was when the year when 

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Sally entered and got herself a 
Tiffany necklace. 

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Yep. 
But still you're getting it's 

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this is, I talked about this 
idea a bit more with David 

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Rhodes, yes, former president of
North Billy Surf Club, who's in 

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charge of Paddle Australia now. 
Yeah, I think he'd want to add 

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in. 
He'd want you to add in also an 

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Olympian. 
Sorry, Yeah, he also, he also 

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went to the Olympics. 
He also went to the Olympics for

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the K2K4 kayaking, Kayaking. 
He battles a boat very well. 

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But we talked about this idea 
of, you know, if you absorb, if 

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race organisers were to absorb 
the cost of this high end race 

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prize souvenir, whatever you 
want to call it, and it doesn't,

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you know, add anything onto the 
race cost, which for most races 

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these days are already 
exorbitantly high. 

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You could do it. 
You could really, you know, make

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a plant a flag that with a 
physical product that people 

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want to use for the next 12 
months, which then advertises 

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your race for free and in 
creates that we're part of a 

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special club mentality. 
Yeah, this is like this is this 

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blew me away because I was 
thinking, is it like a, you 

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know, a special. 
I had so many questions when I 

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ran away from cell on the 
weekend. 

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I was like, well, how many 
people like, is it a special 

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gift for, you know, were you 
invited? 

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What it is? 
But there you go. 

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You they're still doing it. 
So maybe Nagoya should be on the

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should be on the card. 
I will say, if anybody out there

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has, because I tried to, I tried
to Google what some other 

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finisher prizes are for other 
races around the world. 

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The problem is you end up just 
going to the merch shop, like it

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just directs you to the jackets 
or the T-shirts or whatever you 

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can buy. 
But if anyone out there has run 

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a race and got a particularly 
significant or special finisher 

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gift, not that you had to buy, 
but for finishing it, it's what 

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you got presented at the finish 
line worthy. 

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Of a Sir. 
Worth shouting out. 

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I don't want a T shirt. 
I don't want for the most part, 

450
00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:55,240
unless it's a truly special pair
of clothes. 

451
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,400
Item of clothing, yeah, but 
unique, something that now 

452
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,480
whenever you use it or look at 
it, it's go. 

453
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,440
Unless it's a coffee cup from a 
reputable good yeah brand. 

454
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,600
There you go. 
I know what just Chinese 

455
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,040
plastic. 
No thanks. 

456
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,080
Got to be special. 
Yeah, got to be special. 

457
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:12,000
Anyway. 
So shout out Sally, and shout 

458
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,880
out the Nagoya Marathon. 
Yeah. 

459
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,560
Doesn't it appears to have used 
to have been a women's only 

460
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,280
event? 
I don't think it is anymore by 

461
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,160
the looks of it. 
OK. 

462
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,520
You talk, you talked about her 
feeling about a bit of a 

463
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,080
community there. 
And we've been talking about, 

464
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,280
you know, last week we were 
talking about like what, what 

465
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,600
can we do between our community?
Yeah, in the beginning podcast. 

466
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,600
Now I want to shut it down this 
week, but before I do, it's got 

467
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,800
out of hand. 
We had Benny Wilders, my my, my 

468
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,360
running partner and doctor. 
He he he said you should just 

469
00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:44,240
point to your ITB. 
That's not bad, I. 

470
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,440
Don't mind. 
In the beginning, ITBI said to 

471
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,680
him. 
Mate, the one problem with and 

472
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,280
we didn't realise this when we 
just happened to not be able to 

473
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,800
call our show a name. 
So we just decided to call it 

474
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,320
the first name. 
We said yeah, IT BS break. 

475
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,600
I don't want us to break. 
Do ITSI BS break they? 

476
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,680
Get They get injured, they get 
sore, they're always a they're 

477
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,400
always. 
A is. 

478
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,400
Is this the reason you want to 
shut it down or did something 

479
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,440
else happen? 
No, no, no, no. 

480
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:10,600
Something else happened. 
When you wanna, you wanna get to

481
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,240
that? 
No, no, no. 

482
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:11,840
This way. 
Just OK. 

483
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,440
Hang, hang, hang on, hang on, 
hang on. 

484
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,200
Brett Quayle. 
He he he suggested the peace 

485
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,480
symbol we got Ryan Kelso bit of 
the the shackers. 

486
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,080
Yeah, yeah. 
It feel that feels like cultural

487
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,400
appropriation. 
But what for wine? 

488
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,680
Yeah, but. 
Bret's last week about giving 

489
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,360
the finger so this happened to 
me this morning. 

490
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,560
Someone gave me the finger. 5-10
driving out to the forest in my 

491
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,400
car. 
Man on the Parkway out the back 

492
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,440
here and the grey Hilux is 
driving next to me and kind of 

493
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,000
speed up. 
Didn't think too much of it, 

494
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,320
pulled in behind him and then 
suddenly out the window. 

495
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,680
Cop the bird. 
No A. 

496
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,200
Hard bird too, like full. 
Really, Bird? 

497
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,800
First thing I thought was, do I 
know? 

498
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,320
Is he is. 
This guy, this guy and he's 

499
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,560
speed up to initiate, I quickly 
realised. 

500
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,800
He's not. 
I don't think that was the 

501
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,960
chase. 
So. 

502
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,480
I kept driving up through the 
big roundabout at Kurara and 

503
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,680
he's he's pulled in front of me 
by this stage and I'm just it's 

504
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,600
so early in the morning. 
I was heading out to the Bush. 

505
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,040
I don't anyway. 
And then he's pulled up and this

506
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,480
has now got into like a bit of 
serious, well, semi serious road

507
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,600
rage. 
Oh, really? 

508
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:31,080
Pulled up in front of me, slowed
down and then quickly zoomed off

509
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,840
down Nelson's road and then went
down the window and gave it to 

510
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,280
me again. 
What? 

511
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,120
What was his? 
What? 

512
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,040
Well, that's what I can't work 
out mate. 

513
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,120
Where did you? 
I'm now I'm thinking. 

514
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,000
The only thing I can think of 
though, I don't wanna, I don't 

515
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,200
wanna say hey, I'm always in the
right here is. 

516
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,880
Is he maybe just is he maybe a 
run influencer? 

517
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,800
He's he's either, it's either 
one or two things. 

518
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,800
He either is going hardball at 
us to initiate this finger, 

519
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,120
which has made me realise we 
gotta shut this down. 

520
00:25:58,120 --> 00:25:59,560
Yeah, yeah. 
We can't do that. 

521
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,880
We can't do that we. 
But secondly, I was. 

522
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,680
This got me self conscious 
going. 

523
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,440
What did I actually do wrong? 
Like maybe I was at that time of

524
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,360
morning, you know, when you're 
just a bit daydreaming or 

525
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,160
whatever. 
Did I just like slightly cross 

526
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,720
the roundabout double line in 
front of him? 

527
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,520
I see. 
Was I in the fast lane going, 

528
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,440
you know, the speed limit 
instead of getting to the to the

529
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,920
job site? 
I don't know, I don't know. 

530
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,680
True story this morning, and it 
and it. 

531
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,600
But it I agree that what's. 
Interesting. 

532
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:31,360
With that type of let's say call
it road rage, yeah, or Rd 

533
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:38,720
aggression is I actually still 
don't know what I did for 90% of

534
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,680
people, they're going to sit 
there going what is this I? 

535
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,040
Don't understand what I've done.
If I knew what I did wrong, I 

536
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,360
take accountability I don't. 
The lesson I've got a good 

537
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:48,800
lesson for those of you out 
there that might find yourself 

538
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,440
in this situation. 
You never know what's going on 

539
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,760
in someone elses car. 
Who knows what was going on? 

540
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,800
He might have just had a hard 
time from his wife or his 

541
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,640
girlfriend or someone as he left
the house this morning. 

542
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,360
He's gone in his way. 
Who know you can't begin to 

543
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:04,280
understand what might be going 
on in someone else's life, so 

544
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,480
don't try. 
I agree with you though, I think

545
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,560
we ought to definitely shut down
the flipping the bird, and I 

546
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,600
think for now we let go of 
attempting to come up with an 

547
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,080
ITB running greeting. 
What I would like is just say, 

548
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,240
hey Liam, listen and. 
Great, let's go with that 

549
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,080
instead. 
Courtney, let's go with that. 

550
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,280
I'm listening. 
How you doing? 

551
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,400
Yeah, We'll, we'll, we'll, 
we'll. 

552
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,440
Debit. 
Have a chat. 

553
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,320
Alright. 
Brilliant. 

554
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,560
Yeah, brilliant. 
Have we got any other loose ends

555
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,880
we need to clean up from last 
week? 

556
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:33,920
Well, I I was kind of jumping 
ahead of where I wanted to be. 

557
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,600
So what do you? 
Want to go back to I do have 

558
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,720
something In fact, while while 
you find what you want to go 

559
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:45,560
back to you put up a reel of my 
what do we call it? 

560
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,760
My lungs are a toilet analogy. 
Oh yes, you're very the nasal. 

561
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,880
Strip. 
You're very intuitive. 

562
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,320
The anti nasal strip campaign I 
then went on to compare your 

563
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,800
lungs to a toilet system. 
Yeah I have had some feedback. 

564
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,160
OK. 
There's been a lot of feedback. 

565
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:09,080
But after I shared that a friend
of mine, Farrah, who is a 

566
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,400
doctor, she's a cardiologist. 
Right. 

567
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,280
So a Siri. 
Yep. 

568
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:16,120
She just sent back a melting 
face emoji. 

569
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,200
I laughed and said, is this 
medically accurate, what I've 

570
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,080
said here? 
She said no. 

571
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,920
And she left it for a couple of 
days. 

572
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,680
But she wrote back to me today, 
OK, And I want to share this. 

573
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,920
I want to share this with 
everybody because I don't 

574
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,040
proclaim to be a medical 
professional. 

575
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,640
I was having a bit of fun when I
compared your toilets, your 

576
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,920
lungs to a toilet. 
Yep, and I do want to share 

577
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,680
this. 
I did put a disclaimer on the 

578
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,280
end. 
There is no science backing. 

579
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,880
This and what I will say here, 
even though I'm about to share 

580
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,280
what Farrah has, how Farrah has 
explained it to me. 

581
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,120
If you have any serious medical 
questions, consult your own 

582
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,560
medical professional, right? 
Yes. 

583
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,200
So Farrah, who is a 
cardiologist, has said she said 

584
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,360
let me explain why nose 
breathing can help. 

585
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,560
OK. 
Essentially the lungs are much 

586
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,600
more complex than just being 
sacks of air, which is what I 

587
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,080
was saying that were there are 
millions of Oh no this is the 

588
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,680
word even I can't pronounce. 
There are millions of alveoli or

589
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,120
little air sacs where gas 
exchange happens. 

590
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,040
Oxygenation that's what then 
puts the oxygen into your blood.

591
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,640
I'd imagine you want to keep 
those open for as long as 

592
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,760
possible. 
Breathing is all physics and 

593
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,800
pressure differences. 
Now this is when she talks about

594
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,240
the nose. 
Breathing through the nose helps

595
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:44,120
humidify and philtre the air. 
It slows airflow in which 

596
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,840
increases the time for gas 
exchange to happen in those 

597
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,800
little air sacs. 
It enables increased lung 

598
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,800
capacity by increasing chance of
diaphragmatic breathing which is

599
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,880
your total lung capacity. 
Yes, and apparently your nose 

600
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,160
also produces nitric oxide, 
which helps dilate the blood 

601
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,360
vessels, relax Airways to 
facilitate more effective gas 

602
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,920
exchange. 
So basically, medically 

603
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:13,560
speaking, nasal breathing can do
lots for your running, for your 

604
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,560
breathing, for your aerobic 
capacity. 

605
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:21,000
In the words of any study I've 
ever seen, may be more 

606
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,120
effective. 
May be more effective. 

607
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,520
There is some supporting 
evidence there from an MD that 

608
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,840
said may be more effective. 
To follow up Farah's point with 

609
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,880
some of my non medical thoughts 
as well, I don't see many people

610
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,480
in the Olympics running with 
nasal strips. 

611
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,880
And if they were that good, 
wouldn't Kipchoge be using them?

612
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,520
Yeah, yeah. 
I've seen, I have seen elite 

613
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,880
athletes with nasal strips, 
like, yeah, I see you. 

614
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,240
I know we're kidding. 
I know we're kidding, but So 

615
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,560
maybe we should strip that off 
our page. 

616
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,400
Hey, do you? 
Think no, no, no, leave it. 

617
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,720
Leave it. 
No, no, no, absolutely leave it.

618
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,760
My point, I think the underlying
point of this is if you are a 

619
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,040
runner of my level, there's a 
lot of other things you could do

620
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,000
before you go and invest in 
nasal strips, OK? 

621
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,480
There we go, let's move on. 
Well, the next topic, I, I, 

622
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,040
let's stay on this medical stuff
cause for the moment. 

623
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,800
I, I'm very interested in this 
next topic at my age. 

624
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:29,840
And this information is backed 
by the US Centre for Disease 

625
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,360
Control and Prevention. 
Jesus, where have you been? 

626
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,480
Well, I don't know if that's 
actually anymore. 

627
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,160
I don't. 
I don't know whether we should 

628
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,560
trust them at the moment. 
I will trust them at the moment 

629
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,760
either. 
But have a listen to this one. 

630
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,120
Predict how long you're going to
live. 

631
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,640
The sports you play. 
Yeah, so recently scientists 

632
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,480
discovered that the sports you 
play have a huge connection on 

633
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,440
how long you're going to live. 
Football players must not live 

634
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,640
the longest. 
Yeah, they're not on the list. 

635
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,920
So in 5th place extending 
someone's life 3.4 years is 

636
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,000
actually swimming. 
In fourth place they found 

637
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,720
biking and cycling actually 
extending people's lives 3.8 

638
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,760
years. 
And in 3rd place they found that

639
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,320
soccer actually increases 
someone's life 4.7 years. 

640
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,960
So in 2nd place is badminton. 
And they found that if if you 

641
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,000
play badminton, your life is 
extended by 6.2 years. 

642
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,400
And in first place the sport 
that makes you live the longest 

643
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,120
is actually tennis. 
So in any kind of racket sport, 

644
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,760
so like pickleball, table 
tennis, anything with a with a 

645
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,080
racket you actually live 9.7 
years longer. 

646
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,640
What do you reckon? 
Would you have? 

647
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,480
Would you have guessed racket 
sports? 

648
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:48,920
No way, no way, no way. 
But if anybody did, again, look,

649
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,800
do you have sciency stuff to 
talk about here? 

650
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,680
No, I there's an this. 
So obviously that was Elon Musk 

651
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,400
talking on Rogan, but the the 
information he's presenting has 

652
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,000
come from this article. 
Which is it it? 

653
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,800
It's a study that they've done 
over in the States, like one of 

654
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,400
their main government 
organisations. 

655
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,400
The only thing I'm saying is 
'cause I know that there are 

656
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,560
people who listen to the pod who
who really enjoy when you 

657
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,880
actually take off on your 
scientific rants about stuff. 

658
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,560
I know shout out Alex Rigby, 
high performance manager from 

659
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,360
the Suns, who I saw over the 
weekend, actually down on the 

660
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,240
Iron series, because I'm going 
to take this into a very non 

661
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,120
scientific area. 
Before you do that, you go. 

662
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,920
Since So what I'm saying is this
is like, even when it comes to 

663
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,880
studies, things change, 
whatever, but at the moment this

664
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,560
is a legit study that's come out
and they've they've obviously 

665
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,440
gone to the ends of the earth to
try and work this out. 

666
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,600
And it has the fact that 
badminton, tennis has come up 

667
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,640
the top and even soccer 
surprised me. 

668
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,720
Soccer going into older age, 
like that's a recipe to feel 

669
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,960
like disasters to me. 
But anyway, each to their own. 

670
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,080
We're we're runners here. 
Yeah. 

671
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,120
I would have expected. 
Where do you think running came 

672
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,680
in? 
Oh, I would have had it. 

673
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,000
I, I, if you'd asked me to 
guess, I would have put it in 

674
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,160
the top five. 
But if it's not in the top five,

675
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,560
I don't know. 
It's it's just 10. 

676
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,679
It's just, yeah, it's in the top
ten, just outside the top five 

677
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:13,040
South in six. 
But that did that was 

678
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,600
interesting to me. 
I would have thought light 

679
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:22,080
jogging moving into older age 
would have had more benefit. 

680
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,040
Than something like. 
Than Ratchet. 

681
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,679
Sports. 
OK, Can I? 

682
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,400
Give me the non science thing 
and then I'll just. 

683
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,400
I'll give you, I'll give you a 
little. 

684
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,239
Bring it, bring it back. 
I'll give you a little non 

685
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,199
science thing right there is a 
it's amazing the things that 

686
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:36,840
stick in your brain over the 
years. 

687
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:43,040
And there was ATV show. 
Now I'm not going to remember 

688
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,320
what it was called, but 
basically they used to conduct 

689
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,920
an experiment. 
It was an ABC thing where they 

690
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,040
would take. 
What can we trust that either? 

691
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,080
Well, no, it was, it was a great
show. 

692
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,199
They would take like 5 year olds
and six year olds and have them 

693
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,760
interact with retirement home 
people. 

694
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,560
And it was it was it was the 
experiment around can they re 

695
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,080
engage and reactivate these 
elderly people by having them 

696
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,560
engage regularly with these 
kids. 

697
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,480
Great show. 
Really fun thing to watch with 

698
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,320
your kids when they're sort of 
that age as well. 

699
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,720
And this is your classic ABC 
feel good type stuff. 

700
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:23,760
But there was a scientific and a
medical element to the show 

701
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:29,000
because they would test these 
elderly people that run through 

702
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,720
them through various tests at 
the beginning to judge how they 

703
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:34,080
were ageing, how, how their 
health. 

704
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,520
Was operating, yeah, at that 
age. 

705
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,720
And it stuck in my brain because
one of the tests that they did, 

706
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:46,400
they said was incredibly telling
for a person's overall health at

707
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,680
that advanced stage is grip 
strength. 

708
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,520
The ability to they would put 
that, that, you know, there 

709
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,040
there's a little machine that 
can test your grip strength. 

710
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,640
Yeah. 
And when I hear you say 

711
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,520
badminton and tennis, both 
sports that require you to a 

712
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,240
there's the movement and there's
the hand eye coordination and 

713
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:09,280
the brain function that required
to play those sports. 

714
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,320
Correct. 
But you're holding something. 

715
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Yeah. 
And there's that, there's the 

716
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,120
necessity to grip something for 
a duration of period, which I 

717
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,080
again, non medical expertise, 
I'm just putting their head in 

718
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,680
my head. 
Logically that says group 

719
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,440
strength equals good health at 
an advanced age. 

720
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:30,520
Playing these sports that 
require you to hold on to 

721
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,880
something probably going to 
help. 

722
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:38,000
I saw again not completely 
scientific evidence but around 

723
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,800
kettlebell walking. 
Dude, what's the farmers? 

724
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,720
Carries farmers carries one of 
the elements of high rocks, one 

725
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:45,680
of the strength, one of the 
strength things for high rocks. 

726
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,120
100% yeah. 
And farmers carries like doing 

727
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,400
that as like a a staple exercise
right throughout your life 

728
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,640
because of that grip strength 
idea is probably one of the 

729
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,800
exercises you should include day
to day, even as you age. 

730
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,000
Yeah, obviously the way it's 
gonna drop, but just continually

731
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,480
being able to do that. 
And then they they were writing 

732
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,760
like how much weight you should 
be able to do at what age to 

733
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,800
continue this process. 
But yes, I reckon regardless of 

734
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,880
science, you're on the right 
track. 

735
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,640
There's enough evidence. 
But what I'm where they're 

736
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,240
connecting the dots with this 
tennis stuff. 

737
00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:19,880
And where it makes sense to me 
now is it's community, because 

738
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,000
you're always playing with 
someone. 

739
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:24,080
I didn't think about that. 
You know, it's a game. 

740
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,160
It's a game. 
It's a game as well as there's a

741
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,160
social aspect. 
There's a social aspect to going

742
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,320
to the club, yes. 
Until we have third spaces, 

743
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,880
yeah. 
Yeah. 

744
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,120
So it's all that. 
So it's it's like this nature of

745
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,000
your your group mentality. 
You're playing the game. 

746
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,640
It is hand eye coordination. 
So it it it provides so much 

747
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,520
more than just the fitness 
aspect. 

748
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,600
And it's got the fitness aspect 
that you gotta run around the 

749
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,880
court and be mobile and agile 
and all of that. 

750
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,680
Yeah, but it adds in all those 
extra things, so that's what 

751
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,840
they're citing and why I. 
Wonder. 

752
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,800
I wonder if the data around 
running for this sort of thing 

753
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,320
will improve. 
As more people. 

754
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,840
Do it well, but as as Park Run 
and these run clubs prevail, 

755
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,960
like as as these as that social 
aspect of running continues to 

756
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,280
grow and build, whereas 
previously it was thought of as 

757
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,200
a solo enterprise. 
Yeah, Now, like badminton and 

758
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,600
tennis, there's this club 
atmosphere around the running 

759
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,360
side of it. 
I wonder if that sees a climb 

760
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,080
into the top five if they did 
this test 10 years, 20 years 

761
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,360
down the track. 
See, I've got this idea. 

762
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,560
The way I think about it, this 
is me personally is I'm like, I 

763
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,920
know there's an endpoint running
for competition in the sense of 

764
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,720
for yourself, for myself, like 
an endpoint in that you will 

765
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:42,480
eventually age out to be you. 
You're going to decline quicker 

766
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,040
as you age. 
And I'm trying to make the most 

767
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,720
of the fact I've got a few more.
You know, I've got years left to

768
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:51,560
be able to go out there and 
really give it to myself and and

769
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,080
get something out of it. 
But then I actually go to the 

770
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,560
next step. 
Well, if I can't get those 

771
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,800
things that I've talked about, 
what I like getting out of 

772
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,880
running, you know, they're still
racing the young fellas trying 

773
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,160
to improve time. 
You know, I don't think I'll 

774
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,000
ever stop jogging because I love
it for my head in the bushel. 

775
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,520
That's great. 
But I do think there's a 

776
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,560
deflection point there where 
then I would go back to surfing 

777
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:19,000
a lot more or I would go to to 
to tennis, like and go and 

778
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,160
participate in a pure 
participate participation sport.

779
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,280
At the moment, I'm still driven 
by performance competition, you 

780
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,800
know, yes, I love it and enjoy 
it, but that's still what really

781
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,080
drives me. 
I would pivot so I understand 

782
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,120
where they're going with this to
be more in a team sport more, 

783
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,200
you know, around something that 
I, I don't have to compare 

784
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,560
myself to my old life in and all
those things. 

785
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,520
That's really interesting. 
Yeah, that's fascinating. 

786
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,440
I. 
Don't know where that tipping 

787
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,400
point is. 
Hopefully not too soon, but no. 

788
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,640
I hope not too soon, otherwise 
we're gonna have to change this 

789
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,880
podcast. 
That's true. 

790
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,880
That's true. 
I feel like Courtney just 

791
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,760
announced the end of the podcast
in advance. 

792
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,480
Yeah, I I get you. 
I get you. 

793
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,160
Well, I hope the competitive 
fire burns bright because I like

794
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,240
seeing you run fast and like 
talking about. 

795
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:09,560
That it's not anytime soon 
anyway. 

796
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,320
And on to something a little bit
more lighthearted. 

797
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,160
I've listened to this one. 
What happened to your feet? 

798
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,480
What do you mean these are my 40
sevens? 

799
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,360
Oh, they're 40 sevens. 
Can I see them? 

800
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,080
Yeah. 
He's off for a lot of support, 

801
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,000
right? 
Wow, come on. 

802
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,360
Just. 
Just are you in a? 

803
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,920
Fraternity, are you insane? 
Are you? 

804
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,640
In a fraternity, you could have.
Hit somebody. 

805
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,240
What was that? 
I'm asking you a question. 

806
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:31,640
You know, fraternity. 
No. 

807
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:33,560
Are you Steve Jobs? 
What? 

808
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,880
Hold on a second, are you the 
billionaire owner of Apple 

809
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,280
Computers? 
No. 

810
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,640
Oh OK, well in that case you got
no right to wear New Balance 

811
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,480
sneakers. 
Ever. 

812
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,200
So this is. 
Crazy, stupid love. 

813
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,160
Yeah, great film. 
You're you're, you're on to it. 

814
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,880
But yeah, the, the the question 
is how does a Co worker act when

815
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,520
someone wears New Balance? 
But let's just say any new 

816
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,520
street brand into the workplace.
Does it depend on the workplace?

817
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,120
I think. 
Do you can you can. 

818
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,600
The solicitors and lawyers are 
rocking in and. 

819
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,840
No, no, no, no Friday, no, no, 
no. 

820
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,680
I don't think solicitors and 
lawyers are the right people. 

821
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,560
I think there is a very narrow 
window where you can get away 

822
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,720
with wearing that style of shoe.
Then you balance the Salomon 

823
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,440
trail shoes as you as you casual
wear and I think that window of 

824
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,960
opportunity exists between 18 to
28 for females. 

825
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,280
That's no. 
What do you wear in what? 

826
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,040
What are you going into the 
office wearing? 

827
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,320
Going in in a pair, I think 
they're Nike dunks. 

828
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,440
Oh, so you're differentiating 
between I'm talking about those 

829
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,800
like like a nostalgic? 
Yeah, yeah. 

830
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,720
I'm talking about those crazy 
new ballots St style things that

831
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,840
look like they're a high tech 
runner but is in fact just a 

832
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,720
fashion. 
You can see, you can see my face

833
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:55,080
'cause you're calling me out of.
Your life. 

834
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,960
I well, actually, you do wear 
them. 

835
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,880
I wear them everywhere. 
You wore them to a meeting the 

836
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,560
other day that we had that we 
can't talk about. 

837
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,240
I just remembered. 
No, I remembered looking at them

838
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:07,320
at the time. 
No, that was a serious meeting. 

839
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,440
It was a serious meeting and I 
question why you're wearing 

840
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,200
those shirt. 
No, I. 

841
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,520
Just. 
I I can't pull them off. 

842
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,160
You can't pull them off. 
I think it's just me. 

843
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,040
I'm projecting, but I can't pull
them off. 

844
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,440
OK, no, OK, no. 
Hey, Speaking of which, just 

845
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,160
quickly, this wasn't on the run 
sheet, but have you seen Nike's 

846
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,040
latest campaign around the Air 
Jordans? 

847
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,080
No. 
I think give it and I might be 

848
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,480
wrong on the dates here, but I 
think they're celebrating the 

849
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,560
20. 
No, it must be longer than that.

850
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:40,360
Whenever the Nike Air Jordan was
first released, which might have

851
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,040
been 30 years ago, 40 years ago,
I watched all those. 

852
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,960
Jordan documentaries, but I'll 
never remember the. 

853
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,520
Anyway and. 
Did you watch the? 

854
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,600
The last dance yes, absolutely 
and air the the the fictional 

855
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,040
like the fictional movie was 
amazing so good, but the story 

856
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,920
around the first pair of shoes, 
which was the NBA had 

857
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,760
regulations around colours and 
the how much proportion of your 

858
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,080
shoes had to be white. 
Nike introduced this, the Jordan

859
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,400
Air Jordan shoe, which had too 
much red on it. 

860
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,080
And the executives at Nike said 
because they were facing a ban 

861
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,680
if he turned that in the shoes. 
And Nike basically turned that 

862
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,520
into a commercial and said let's
just pay the fine. 

863
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,280
He'll play in the shoes which 
break the NBA's restrictions and

864
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,400
will pay the fine. 
And it was the greatest, might 

865
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,080
have been the greatest piece of 
advertising. 

866
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,360
Some good old guerrilla 
marketing. 

867
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:31,920
Exactly. 
Yep. 

868
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,720
Now what they're doing at the 
moment, there's a new, a 

869
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:38,440
relatively new CEO in place for 
a Nike I, I believe and what he 

870
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,440
we just. 
Spoke about this. 

871
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,200
How's your memory? 
Yeah, we spoke about this last 

872
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,400
week the. 
Fines. 

873
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,000
No, not the fines, but there's 
about this new CEO and sorry the

874
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,800
direction, but. 
What he's doing is this 

875
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:55,120
direction that he's taken. 
Yep, is instituting fines on 

876
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,000
premise at Nike to anybody 
caught wearing Air Jordans. 

877
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,640
It's a stunt. 
It's a yeah, it's a stunt. 

878
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,240
But he's basically and now so 
much so that the famous statue 

879
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:10,400
of Michael Jordan in the Air 
Jordan post, they have attached 

880
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,320
like a blackout box blocking the
shoes from so on all the 

881
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,680
marketing products and 
everything. 

882
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,520
Air Jordans are all It's a great
piece of marketing. 

883
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:20,600
I'm gonna have to go and check 
it. 

884
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,600
Out I've I've I've. 
Missed that one. 

885
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,080
All right, I, I, you know, we're
talking about third spaces at 

886
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,680
the end of last week and having 
this other spot to go. 

887
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:37,920
This came to me from James so 
Geelem on IGJEA Double LUM. 

888
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,080
I'm gonna play it. 
And now we're gonna have to 

889
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,400
translate it a bit after, but 
it's still worth worth having to

890
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,040
play. 
OK, until I learned about this 

891
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,240
ASIC store near Tokyo station. 
It's a unique store where we can

892
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,240
wear running shoes before buying
them or even try to colour the 

893
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:52,280
society comfort zone. 
There's not all guys. 

894
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,560
You can also rent everything 
else you need, from T-shirts to 

895
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,120
pants, even tights. 
With the rental you get access 

896
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:57,840
to this. 
OK. 

897
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,440
I'm just rental. 
It's a rental. 

898
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,080
I'm going to, I'm going to 
translate because I've watched 

899
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,280
the Reel a few times. 
It is a rental shoe and running 

900
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:12,200
ASIC store in Tokyo, so just 
near Tokyo station you you've 

901
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,720
gone to work, you've, you know, 
rocked up as a tourist or 

902
00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:17,600
whatever. 
You can go into this ASICS run 

903
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,560
store and literally go in pick 
out what you want to wear get 

904
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,520
your shoes, get your socks, get 
your run shirt, get your things 

905
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,760
what as a singlet go off on your
runs, sweat it out sweat it out 

906
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,600
to your heart's content. 
Come back the showers. 

907
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,040
It's like a club room and then 
at the end just drop all that 

908
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,240
dirty stuff in the pile and on 
you go. 

909
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,800
First reaction. 
What do you reckon? 

910
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,520
First reaction when you started 
explaining this, why, why would 

911
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,560
anybody want to rent clothes or 
shoes to run in? 

912
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,200
What that was? 
That's my first reaction. 

913
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,880
And then as you got to the end 
and said the idea of just being 

914
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:05,280
able to leave it and leave, 
yeah, you get change. 

915
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,160
You have your shower and instead
of shoving your clothes and 

916
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,440
shoes into a bag and taking it 
with you, leave. 

917
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,360
You worked in the centre of 
Tokyo. 

918
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:19,160
Would you use this service? 
If I was in Tokyo, yes, because 

919
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:26,320
of the premium of space. 
So in Tokyo it's very different 

920
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,200
to here in Australia and space 
is at a premium. 

921
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,880
So you're probably not going to 
have room for your washing 

922
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,200
machine and a dryer in your 
home. 

923
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,840
What's more, if you can have a 
third space in which basically 

924
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,000
or you can reduce the need for 
certain cupboard space for if 

925
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,440
shoes and athletic wear another 
safe spacing exercise. 

926
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,960
So in Tokyo, yes, here, no, I 
wouldn't do that. 

927
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,400
You know, I wouldn't do that. 
I didn't I don't I don't know if

928
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,200
we're that culture. 
I don't know if we're a, a, a 

929
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,720
cloth lending culture, a cloth 
borrow. 

930
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:11,160
Would you borrow clothes? 
I no, no, but I also hadn't 

931
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,320
thought that. 
Much in. 

932
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,960
Depth about it. 
I just I just saw it and I 

933
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,640
thought this is a really great. 
I like not really really good 

934
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,560
idea. 
Nice idea. 

935
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,280
The fact you just and if you 
wanted to try some massive shoes

936
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,200
bang, because that's what we're 
talking about. 

937
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,920
You know, like in the end 
they're going to try and sell 

938
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,160
something to you. 
By the way, this has just made 

939
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,640
me think of something I'm going 
to do at some point in the 

940
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,120
coming weeks. 
I found myself at a supermarket 

941
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,520
the other day just having some 
lunch and I looked across and 

942
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:41,440
there was a footlocker and, and 
I was just watching, I was 

943
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,120
eating my lunch and I was just 
watching the woman talking to a 

944
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,360
bloke who walked in there, 
middle aged bloke. 

945
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,840
And I was like, I wonder what 
that, and I was standing in 

946
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,200
front of the running the run 
shoe section and I'm like, I 

947
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,040
wonder what that conversation 
is. 

948
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,840
So what I'm going to do at some 
point in the next couple of 

949
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,600
weeks is I'm going to go into, I
won't say the name of the store,

950
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,760
the type of store. 
I'm going to go into a shoe 

951
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,520
store and I'm going to say go 
undercover. 

952
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,720
I'm I'm going to do like a 
mystery shop. 

953
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:09,080
I'm going to say, I'm new to 
running. 

954
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,800
What would you recommend? 
And I'm, I want to walk through 

955
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:18,440
the experience from the start of
how I end up with the shoes they

956
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,640
recommend. 
Now I'm not going to buy the 

957
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,440
shoes, but I want to see where 
if I tell them I'm a beginner 

958
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,320
runner who maybe I've just 
stopped playing footy and I'm 

959
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,560
running a bit, mostly on roads, 
what what they end up 

960
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,000
recommending for me because I'd 
be fascinated to know. 

961
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:36,280
Okay, so stand by you. 
You might have just given the 

962
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,240
idea away though. 
But. 

963
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,760
I'll look, I'll do it with a 
couple of different places. 

964
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,960
In fact, I might do it with a 
couple of different and see if I

965
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,000
get different results from 
different shops just. 

966
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,400
Don't go into rebel sport at PAC
Fair. 

967
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,560
And he could run into Michael 
Shelley, OK. 

968
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,440
And he's probably gonna 
completely. 

969
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,280
Yeah, he'll he'll save Ruby. 
Well, he's also gonna ruin the 

970
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,240
idea because he I'm assuming he 
can probably he'll give you 

971
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:00,960
pretty good. 
Advice. 

972
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,200
He'll just go. 
Nobody serve him. 

973
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,880
I let you gotta. 
Let's talk about our run weeks. 

974
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,440
What's been going on with you? 
Oh, what have I? 

975
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,040
What have I been up to? 
Well, I talked about going out 

976
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,800
to the forest this morning and 
getting heckled on the way out 

977
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:22,840
there in the car. 
Yes, actually, I've, I've my KS 

978
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:23,680
are back up. 
I'm running. 

979
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,240
Well, everything's going all 
right. 

980
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:28,960
It's been hot as hell. 
What I do want to talk about is 

981
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,120
what in my mind I went through 
yesterday at our Tuesday fart, 

982
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,160
like at the Spit. 
So every every week I've talked 

983
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,400
about a run at the Spit, we do 
some type of fart. 

984
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:38,960
Like it can be anywhere from 20 
minutes something. 

985
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,560
We had a small group that I was 
kind of being the ringleader of 

986
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,600
to a degree. 
But we kind of all make up the 

987
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,320
sessions. 
Gold Coast Run Co have come back

988
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,440
and their late squad's coming 
back down and meeting us at the 

989
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,600
same time now, which is 
brilliant, right 'cause we've 

990
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,280
got we've got a group to run 
with. 

991
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,480
It takes a little bit of the 
decision making out of our heads

992
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,680
as well. 
We just get there and do what 

993
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,960
Jacko says. 
Yesterday I haven't done, 

994
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,360
obviously been away, so I 
haven't done a lot of hard work.

995
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,680
When I got there, there was a 
couple of guys, Giordo and a 

996
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,440
young fella from TSS who who is 
obviously one of the quicker 

997
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,800
cross country runners. 
I had a decision to make. 

998
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:19,720
When I'm doing this fart lick, 
do I go my own pace and kind of,

999
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:22,080
I know I'm going to fall off the
back of these guys and end up 

1000
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,200
running by myself and then on 
the way home, so we go out and 

1001
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,880
back, Yeah, on the way home 
they're going to catch me and 

1002
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,920
then maybe I can try and keep up
or whatever, right? 

1003
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,920
I'm trying to build through 
build at the moment and get this

1004
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,880
speed back. 
Or do I dig in and just go with 

1005
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,120
them initially, get the speed 
knowing that I'll eventually 

1006
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,800
drop off, right? 
What do you think I did? 

1007
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,600
Knowing you, you weren't with 
them, I went with. 

1008
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,400
Them. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1009
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,240
The reason I tell the story? 
Yeah, I went with them and I 

1010
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:53,440
blew. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1011
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:57,040
I didn't like the whole idea was
to run out 12 minutes and and 

1012
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,480
you had to make it back. 
Yeah, Jacko wasn't so defined 

1013
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,960
like you got to do extra if you 
make it back. 

1014
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,520
He probably should have. 
I didn't make it back. 

1015
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,800
He didn't make it back either. 
But what happened was I've run 

1016
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,640
out with him and I'm feeling 
pretty comfy and that that's all

1017
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,440
happened. 
But in my head, there's that 

1018
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,040
decision of making, you know, if
you're gonna just follow every 

1019
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,440
bit of science to the letter. 
I shouldn't have done that. 

1020
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,080
I should have run my own pace. 
Yep. 

1021
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,800
Got the most out of the session 
in that. 

1022
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,680
Way. 
So why did you buck the science?

1023
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,000
One, because I love competition,
I want to run with people, 

1024
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,080
right? 
I wanted to run with if they 

1025
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,080
don't want to run with them. 
The second reason though, and 

1026
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,680
this is the the key reason why I
did it, was I'm focused on 

1027
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,000
trying to get myself a bit 
quicker at the moment over 

1028
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,840
shorter distances. 
And I figured having the pacing,

1029
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,560
getting out over over that 
first, even if it was just for 

1030
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,320
10 to 15 minutes at the quicker 
leg speed and having help to do 

1031
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,960
that, I was going to get more 
benefit out of it at this stage 

1032
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,040
in my prep than I would do in 
the whole session. 

1033
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,000
And how do you when was that 
session 2 days? 

1034
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:58,600
Ago yesterday morning. 
Do you feel like in hindsight 

1035
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,760
now that's that's all good? 
In theory, yes. 

1036
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,920
In hindsight, looking back on 
the session, do you feel like it

1037
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,520
actually benefited you? 
Yes. 

1038
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:05,400
OK, I. 
Didn't cook. 

1039
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,080
I mean, I didn't cook myself. 
I was pretty knackered yesterday

1040
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,800
to be honest. 
Anyway, I like it. 

1041
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,320
The next thing, one more thing, 
I want to give a massive shout 

1042
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:20,240
out to country people. 
Jeez. 

1043
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,240
I know that's that's wide range.
Jeez, a big, that's a big 

1044
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:25,680
blanket. 
But he specifically I want to 

1045
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,240
shout out to the Rafa's Coffee 
at Beau Desert. 

1046
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,240
Hi. 
So I was out on a trip 

1047
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:32,560
yesterday. 
I've been doing a little bit of 

1048
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,240
scouting for a few things out in
the back of the hinterland and 

1049
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,960
around looking at a a few 
different run things for Red 

1050
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,680
Bull. 
At the moment I pulled into the 

1051
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,480
Beaudesert I starved and I 
hadn't had lunch. 

1052
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,760
Pulled in through the coffee 
shop, the drive through at 

1053
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,840
Beaudesert. 
The difference between the 

1054
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:53,840
service I get at Southport 
across from TSS and and and what

1055
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,600
I got at Beaudesert from the 
young ladies in there is chalk 

1056
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,200
and cheese. 
I felt like getting out of the 

1057
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,680
car and having a good old 
chinwag with them and. 

1058
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,800
Amazing. 
It's it doesn't surprise me. 

1059
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,720
Amazing. 
It doesn't surprise me. 

1060
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:09,840
So shout out to it. 
OK, It's a shout through. 

1061
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,680
Well, it's I mean, you could 
compare it to the attitude you 

1062
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,280
meet in your fellow runners on 
the trails as opposed to on the 

1063
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,480
on the flats. 
You bump into people on the 

1064
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,000
trails for the most part. 
Small, big wave. 

1065
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,560
Well, you. 
Don't consider participating 

1066
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,600
that far out, but Jesus, it was 
it. 

1067
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,760
It left an impression on me. 
And yeah. 

1068
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:27,640
I'm gonna. 
All right. 

1069
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:28,680
Shout out to country. 
Yeah. 

1070
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,320
What? 
About you what? 

1071
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,080
What are you? 
What are you doing this with me 

1072
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,200
mate? 
Have you ever had a DEXA scan? 

1073
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,600
No. 
Do you know what 1 is? 

1074
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,640
I do know what 1 is. 
For those that don't know, 

1075
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,000
playing along at home, a DEXA 
scan basically measures how fat 

1076
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,880
you are. 
It's much more complex than 

1077
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,320
that, so. 
So basically, can I just ask, 

1078
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,600
Yeah, Were you fat? 
According to I had a DEXA scan 

1079
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,480
and according to my BMI which. 
Body mass index has since. 

1080
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,520
Proven to be not the most 
accurate form of measuring 

1081
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,600
somebody's weight. 
I'm overweight. 

1082
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:04,840
Really. 
According to my how much BMII am

1083
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,160
overweight? 
OK, I don't know. 

1084
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,680
I don't know, but BMII don't 
understand it anyway. 

1085
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:16,480
But what do you at a guess? 
What do you think my body fat 

1086
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,920
percentage is the reason why you
think no, no, no. 

1087
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,440
So this this is language I 
understand. 

1088
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,120
OK, why you think though? 
The reason I'm doing this? 

1089
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,840
I've signed up to an 8 week 
challenge with a bunch of the 

1090
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,880
boys from down South who train 
in the Crumb and Ally. 

1091
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,120
A lot of them are surfers. 
It's run by Johnny Gannon who's 

1092
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,960
a personal trainer. 
Used to train Taj Burrow on the 

1093
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,600
WSL for years. 
Has a great reputation. 

1094
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,600
I've never met John, but I've 
signed up to his challenge along

1095
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,560
with all these other guys and 
part of it, the start of it is 

1096
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,240
you go and get this DEXA scan so
that you have a point of 

1097
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:54,520
comparison by the end of the 
eight week challenge. 

1098
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,640
Now he has strength and 
conditioning programmes tied in 

1099
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,760
with the. 
But also the big thing for me is

1100
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,520
the nutrition sort of things. 
It's about being really 

1101
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,480
conscious about what you're 
eating and how you and. 

1102
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,200
Does he give you this pro 
There's. 

1103
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,280
A there's a nutrition element to
it as well, some advice and some

1104
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,480
calorie counting things elements
to it. 

1105
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,840
So it's all provided, which is 
great. 

1106
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,800
But again, you get the DEXA scan
at the start and and when when's

1107
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,800
the oh sorry 8 weeks 8 weeks. 
So just before Kunani. 

1108
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:23,880
Yep. 
So I I. 

1109
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:28,360
So we should say the Solomon 
Golden Trail Kanani runs. 

1110
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,880
Salomon Golden Trail, Kunani. 
That's. 

1111
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,800
What we're going to run. 
I will be at my hopefully I'll 

1112
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,240
be cherry ride. 
You're gonna be. 

1113
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:39,440
That's when this eight week 
challenge hill climbing. 

1114
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,520
Whipped. 
That's right. 

1115
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,640
What would you think? 
My body fat percentage is corny.

1116
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:46,880
I won't take offence. 
I'm. 

1117
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:52,640
Gonna say 15 ish. 
That's that's too kind. 

1118
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,080
I'm an 18. 
If I said if I said ish. 

1119
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,160
So I'm at 18% now. 
I saw that number and had no 

1120
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,160
idea what it meant. 
Yep. 

1121
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,200
I've since gone on to look it 
up. 

1122
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:08,480
That puts me in basically they 
say 18 to 24 is about the 

1123
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,080
healthy range for somebody of my
age. 

1124
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,720
OK. 
Right, so, so why do you say 

1125
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:15,920
then? 
No, I'm just saying that's my 

1126
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,680
starting point. 
Well, no, because that's what 

1127
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,240
the BMI says. 
Oh, OK. 

1128
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:23,000
Because of my weight, I'm 172 
centimetres tall and I weigh 80 

1129
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,360
kilos. 
Now that's heavy for that height

1130
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,240
according to the BMI, right. 
But I'm a stocky little thing. 

1131
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,840
I've got there's a lot of a lot 
of muscle, a lot of muscle mass.

1132
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,600
In these weights. 
But yeah, no, it's just 

1133
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,040
interesting is so now I have an 
understanding of apparently I've

1134
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,720
got a very fat head, though my 
head is. 

1135
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,640
What is in holding fat or just? 
I don't know, big head. 

1136
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,600
My head has 20% body fat. 
I don't know. 

1137
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,520
This report has a whole heap of 
numbers on it, but maybe you can

1138
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,160
decipher a formula. 
No, no, I don't know that. 

1139
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,880
But I mean, as far as just body 
fat in general, guys, I mean, I,

1140
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,360
I lived through the era of. 
Callipers. 

1141
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,680
Oh yeah. 
Skin fault. 

1142
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,640
Skin faults. 
Every every. 

1143
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,400
You know, multiple times a year 
with heading to the Queensland 

1144
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,080
Academy, a sport or AO, 
Australian Institute, a sport, 

1145
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,680
whatever it was at the time, and
we'd have our skin folds taken. 

1146
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,800
I mean, that was just as normal 
as getting a drug test. 

1147
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,880
Now, not to take you into 
cancellable territory. 

1148
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,280
No, on this topic I'm happy to 
speak. 

1149
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:29,360
But callipers in that skin fold 
is almost like it's considered 

1150
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,120
nearly taboo. 
Ancient history, it's taboo, 

1151
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,600
it's frowned upon. 
It's almost, it would almost be 

1152
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,880
in some places, considered 
bullying in the elite 

1153
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,440
performance workplace. 
Well, in some. 

1154
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,320
In some, that's what I mean. 
Behind the scenes I I can give 

1155
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,680
you some good advice that it's 
still happening. 

1156
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,640
Still happening. 
Because it may. 

1157
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,160
Because it works. 
Right. 

1158
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,720
Why is it good? 
Well, I mean, it's, it's if you 

1159
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,800
want to know what your body fat 
is, yeah, stick the callipers on

1160
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,360
there at number of different 
points and then you are able to 

1161
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:03,760
map that out over time. 
It's a great knowledge of like 

1162
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,800
you, you can take your body 
weight and how that's increasing

1163
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,680
or just increasing or 
decreasing. 

1164
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,520
But if you're increasing your 
muscles, your muscle mass and 

1165
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,960
your body fat's going down, 
that's not all necessarily a bad

1166
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,280
thing, right. 
So you're getting more data 

1167
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,160
points that way, the callipers 
itself. 

1168
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,800
And look, there may be digital 
versions or whatever else these 

1169
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,280
days. 
I mean, I haven't had done to me

1170
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:26,400
specifically, but I was always 
as a performer. 

1171
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,920
Yeah, I was more. 
It was just another data point 

1172
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,440
that I wanted to improve. 
I wanted to be as light. 

1173
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,320
I wanted to be as light but as 
healthy as I could to go and 

1174
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,160
race. 
And if that meant getting tested

1175
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,960
and getting my, my, you know 
what my my skin folds were at 

1176
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,400
that time, I'd never flinch. 
Why would I? 

1177
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,240
Why would you flinch at getting 
your skin folds taken if the 

1178
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,560
goal was to be in better 
condition to go and form 

1179
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,360
perform? 
So what do you how does it go 

1180
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,680
down with you when you hear that
it's? 

1181
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,680
Oh it's BS. 
Absolute BS. 

1182
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,600
I'm not surprised that that's 
your response. 

1183
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:12,840
We've what? 
I there there's like if there's 

1184
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,880
no law, if there's no 
performance reason to do it, so 

1185
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,080
be it. 
But if part of performing better

1186
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:27,360
in whatever sport we're talking 
about is if having the correct 

1187
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:32,280
weight and a healthy weight is 
the goal, why wouldn't you use 

1188
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,520
every tool at your disposal to 
do that? 

1189
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,560
Mic drop? 
Boom. 

1190
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,800
I agree, I agree and I've never 
been an elite athlete anyway. 

1191
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,120
In eight weeks time I look 
forward to being able to tell 

1192
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:49,000
you and everybody else what my 
new 5% is. 5%. 

1193
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,520
I won't get that low. 
What do you reckon? 

1194
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,280
You, you, you won't get that low
well. 

1195
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,840
Tell me what? 
Will I drop that's the kind of 

1196
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,320
percentage 5 to 6% or even lower
is like for for like some of the

1197
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,280
males racing. 
Well, I'm not going to get to 

1198
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,160
that. 
You're not. 

1199
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,720
What do you think I can get to 
in an 8 week period? 

1200
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,840
I have. 
I'm disciplined if I'm 

1201
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:07,520
disciplined. 
I would. 

1202
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,680
I'd only be guessing. 
I have no idea, but I would I 

1203
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:15,600
think down towards 10%. 
Geez, without having any science

1204
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,320
on this, just this is just me 
and you talking without anyone 

1205
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,920
else listening, I would go, you 
know, like. 

1206
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,680
Hey, 10%, wow. 
But maybe that's not a cheat I. 

1207
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,920
I might win the challenge with 
that because there's it's a 

1208
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,320
proper competition. 
But I've got no, no, it's too 

1209
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,040
late. 
No background knowledge of how 

1210
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,760
quickly you can lose that boy. 
Said it. 

1211
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,720
Tell you what, no matter how 
fast I can lose it, I can put it

1212
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,000
on quicker. 
That's probably the case for 

1213
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,040
everybody. 
Yeah, that is true. 

1214
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,760
That is true. 
How are we travelling for time? 

1215
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,520
We still got some time to talk 
about because there's some 

1216
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,520
listening. 
Questions that are coming. 

1217
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,320
We've got a lot going on. 
I did want to say someone sent 

1218
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:51,120
me in we're talking about 
tattoos last week and stickers. 

1219
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:58,280
They, I can't say the source 
didn't want to be named, but he 

1220
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:05,840
they, they did send in a guy who
is flaunting on Instagram A42 

1221
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:11,040
tattoo. 
Background. 

1222
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,160
This is the idea of overseas, 
internationally, that people are

1223
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,760
wearing the 26 point, whatever 
it is, tattoos to show that 

1224
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,960
they've run a marathon. 
I thought it would never catch 

1225
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:21,960
on here. 
I didn't think we were that. 

1226
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,680
Tight and I said it wouldn't, 
Courtney said. 

1227
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,400
It wouldn't. 
The fact. 

1228
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,960
Looks like Courtney's right. 
That's a. 

1229
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,320
Data plot of one but. 
That's. 

1230
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,400
Annoying. 
I'm telling you mate, it's 

1231
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:32,560
coming. 
It's better. 

1232
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,160
Good luck to that bloke, but we 
do have. 

1233
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,240
I'd love to meet you and ask you
what are you thinking? 

1234
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,480
We'll we'll get some of the 
other stuff in next week. 

1235
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,400
But yeah, let's get to the 
questions. 

1236
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:47,800
We got some questions. 
Now where's this first question?

1237
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,320
Because it was a good one. 
This one's for you. 

1238
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:50,920
Oh, go for it. 
I. 

1239
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,400
I don't want to answer this one.
I think this is right up your 

1240
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:54,720
alley. 
So John, what's sending? 

1241
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,600
Any cheat codes or tips for 
young dads with kids under 12 

1242
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,760
months old to get some KS in? 
You're closer to that. 

1243
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,040
I am closer my my youngest is 4,
my oldest is 8, yours a bit 

1244
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:11,520
older than that. 
My first advice, John, would be 

1245
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,920
assuming you've got a kid under 
12 months old. 

1246
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,280
I'm assuming that you're with 
your partner. 

1247
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:23,600
I would the first thing I would 
say is find out when works for 

1248
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:28,000
her for you to disappear, right?
It's you could throw them in a 

1249
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,080
pram. 
You could, but if that's not how

1250
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:36,560
you're used to running, you 
could adapt or and, and, and 

1251
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,880
start running with a pram. 
But if you can carve some time 

1252
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:44,120
out to create that. 
And I don't know how far you 

1253
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,360
run, but like if you can carve 
yourself out a 45 minute window 

1254
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,920
of opportunity to run as with a 
with a under 12 month. 

1255
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,160
And whether that be at night or 
in the morning or in the middle 

1256
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:56,520
of the day. 
I don't know where you live and 

1257
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,640
what the conditions you're 
training with, but if you can 

1258
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:05,200
carve out 45 minutes in your 
day, well, I think you can. 

1259
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,240
The point is, you can carve out 
45 minutes in your day at least 

1260
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,080
three times a week. 
I would have thought if that's 

1261
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,800
what you're used to running, 
despite having this 12 month 

1262
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:19,280
old, what it will mean is making
some sacrifices elsewhere in 

1263
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:25,720
your day so that maybe from 6:00
PM onwards you are on the clock 

1264
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,720
so that your wife can get a 
decent night's sleep or that 

1265
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,520
she's not doing the whatever. 
Cheat. 

1266
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:32,680
I don't think there's a cheat 
code. 

1267
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,680
I think it's just being very 
clear and saying to your wife or

1268
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,160
or your mum and dad, if you've 
got family support around, 

1269
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,280
that's what your friends and 
family are for is and be honest 

1270
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,760
about it, is that running 
matters. 

1271
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,360
To me. 
Running helps me with aim of 

1272
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,200
fitness, but as Courtney's it's 
mental health stuff. 

1273
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,480
It's what I need to do. 
Be upfront with that. 

1274
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:59,280
Can you help me carve out 345 
minute windows each week so I 

1275
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,400
can go get my running done? 
That's that's what I would 

1276
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,680
suggest. 
Lean on friends. 

1277
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,000
I think often, and I don't want 
to make this parenting advice 

1278
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,640
because everybody's kid is their
own. 

1279
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,920
I'm not going to tell you how to
raise your own kids, that's up 

1280
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,880
to you. 
But I think for blokes in 

1281
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,800
particular, we can be reluctant 
because it's our wives or the 

1282
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,600
woman that's gone through the 
process of carrying the kid and 

1283
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,360
off and then giving birth and 
then the physical recovery and 

1284
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:31,360
then also for the 1st 12 months 
when the kid still needs mum to 

1285
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,200
breastfeed. 
And we are useless to an extent 

1286
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,640
we can be like we can feel 
useless at times. 

1287
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,960
But there's nothing wrong with 
leaning on your support network 

1288
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,160
around you, your friend. 
When they offer help, it's not a

1289
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,840
token offer. 
When your family offers help, 

1290
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,640
it's not a token offer. 
Say yes. 

1291
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,760
Sometimes you can feel a bit 
emasculating to say I need help.

1292
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:55,080
Say yes and if it's and it's not
selfish or wrong to accept the 

1293
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,080
help so that you can go for a 
run. 

1294
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,240
Solid advice mate, there you go.
I'm going to, you know. 

1295
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,600
I'm going to do some counselling
after this. 

1296
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,040
Have you ever run with one of 
those? 

1297
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,360
Yeah, right. 
Did you have it with your kids? 

1298
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,120
It. 
Just doesn't if. 

1299
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,440
It's for the same reason I've 
why I'm not a huge fan of 

1300
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:19,720
running on the treadmill in that
it it just, it created an I 

1301
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,200
couldn't find my cadence running
with those things. 

1302
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,160
And again, when it came back to 
it, I'm like, well, how badly do

1303
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:30,560
I want to go for a run right now
if I've got this hour where I'm 

1304
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,240
on dad duty? 
Yeah. 

1305
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,080
Why don't I just go play with 
the kid? 

1306
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,960
Why don't I go play with my son,
play with my daughter, and then 

1307
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,560
I'll find the window to run. 
And and do it properly. 

1308
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,400
Another time. 
Why Rob? 

1309
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,080
Peter to pay Paul. 
Yeah, you know. 

1310
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:43,920
OK, that makes it. 
That makes a bit of sense. 

1311
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,480
Always wondered. 
Never, never never tried them. 

1312
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:47,640
You've never tried them? 
No. 

1313
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:52,240
OK. 
Spatney Spartani, Spartani 

1314
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,640
Spartani. 
I don't know. 

1315
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,120
Yeah. 
Anyway, he's he's sent through a

1316
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,720
question on Instagram said hey 
lads, great podcast, great chat.

1317
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:04,040
Few questions for the potty. 
Do you stretch before runs? 

1318
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,200
I used to, but I haven't for six
months now and haven't seen any 

1319
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,280
injuries from not stretching go.
Right. 

1320
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,800
Do I stretch before a run? 
No. 

1321
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,720
Do I activate before a run? 
Yes, difference. 

1322
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,640
Explain it. 
Difference is actually going 

1323
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,600
through some range of motion 
stuff, so it's not a static 

1324
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,840
stretch. 
So you could call it stretching,

1325
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,160
I suppose, activation, but it's 
like an actual mobility stretch.

1326
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,640
So yesterday morning and look, 
sometimes I've got a lot of time

1327
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,560
and I might roll out here a 
little bit at home. 

1328
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,840
That's very, very rare 'cause I 
run early. 

1329
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,040
But if I get down to the park, 
if I go to like a few minutes 

1330
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,960
before we run. 
Yesterday I was just simply 

1331
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:46,480
doing some squats, you know, 
bounding out the left, get 

1332
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,960
through some single leg, just 
lost lunges. 

1333
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,960
Lunges. 
I mean, single leg lunges is 

1334
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,800
always, you know, the best one 
for me. 

1335
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,760
If you're really limited on 
time, at least just go through 

1336
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,960
something. 
And then the final one that I 

1337
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,520
always like is some type of 
glute, just some trying to 

1338
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,040
activate your glutes a little 
bit. 

1339
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,480
The good one for those is the. 
The bridge just, well, just 

1340
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,520
laying on your. 
Background and lifting up also. 

1341
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,920
The other one is that if you're 
standing and you'd kind of do a 

1342
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,000
sideways step, yeah, and then 
squat down. 

1343
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:21,120
Or even if you, I mean a really 
easy one is just to have a band 

1344
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,400
like one, like a gym band in the
car and do a couple of like, you

1345
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,360
know, crab walks. 
That's a good crab. 

1346
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,440
Walks are really easy. 
Spartney and do anybody else 

1347
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,440
who's wondering about stretching
activating for runs, How much do

1348
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,440
the one of those bands cost you?
From Kmart, probably 6. 

1349
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,480
Bucks, go and get one of those 
bands, throw it in the back of 

1350
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,040
the car. 
Yeah, you'll forget about it, 

1351
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,840
and then you'll find yourself 
somewhere better to go for 

1352
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,440
running. 
Yeah, In fact, buy 21 in the 

1353
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,840
back of the car, one in your, 
one at home. 

1354
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,120
So any activation, but probably 
just as we're talking through 

1355
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,800
the the crab ones, probably 
really simple and easy, few 

1356
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,760
lunges and go and run, jog into 
it. 

1357
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,920
What's the comfiest run socks 
you recommend? 

1358
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,480
Rd slash try. 
Oh, this is a really, really 

1359
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,080
simple answer. 
So the comfiest? 

1360
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,480
If they're comfy enough, that's 
fine with me. 

1361
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,000
What I look for in a sock is 
longevity. 

1362
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,680
I don't want my heels in. 
I don't want the heels and the 

1363
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,479
socks. 
Like after, you know, two or 

1364
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,760
three months suddenly starting 
going thin and then be at risk 

1365
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,720
of being out on a run and then 
breaking. 

1366
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,560
Do you have a brand that you use
or that you've so? 

1367
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:29,680
Yeah, so Swift Wick, Swift Wick,
I swear by Swiftwick sock. 

1368
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,200
Now I have recently got some 
Solomon socks because I've just 

1369
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,880
started doing socks. 
So this is a little bit of a, 

1370
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:40,040
well, this is a little bit of a,
a plug, a little bit of a plug 

1371
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,439
for the Solomon stuff. 
So I'll race in those socks. 

1372
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,800
They're super lightweight. 
Yeah, a really nice cotton sock.

1373
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,279
That's what I'll race in, but 
for training and for over and 

1374
01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:53,840
over use against, we have a look
at Swiftwick Socks. 

1375
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,319
Swiftwick OK, I haven't heard 
about them I. 

1376
01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:59,319
Got into them, I used to ride 
for when I was back in tries. 

1377
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,880
So if you're into triathlons or 
cycling that everyone will know 

1378
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,120
the brand Envy now, Yep, it's 
like quite popular. 

1379
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,240
But back going back probably 10 
or 15 years ago was a little bit

1380
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,439
more niche and it was bloody 
expensive. 

1381
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,439
And I was lucky enough to get my
hands on a few freebies over my 

1382
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,240
time. 
And how I got into the Swiftwick

1383
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,200
socks was they were doing 
collabs with Swiftwick. 

1384
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,399
Wore them then and then forever 
since I've just gone and I'll 

1385
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:26,920
just buy 7 at a time. 
Yeah, last question from 

1386
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:31,160
Spartani. 
Best race supplement for half 

1387
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,040
marathon race day. 
That's jeez. 

1388
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,760
I mean, he seems like it's a 
throwaway question. 

1389
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:37,479
That's a big one. 
That's. 

1390
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:39,520
That's a big question. 
There. 

1391
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,000
Depends what you're talking 
about within the race or which 

1392
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,920
is probably too longer 
discussion and everyone's going 

1393
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,760
to be different in there. 
Well, here's it. 

1394
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,160
I I'm gonna we'll start with 
you. 

1395
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:55,200
Liam, what would you do right 
now if you in the morning before

1396
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,560
1/2 marathon, what do you eat? 
What do you drink? 

1397
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,280
Before 1/2 marathon, Yeah, 
'cause there's no. 

1398
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,720
Right or wrong, I think the 
biggest thing is, don't you, you

1399
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,280
don't try anything new. 
No, exactly don't. 

1400
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,120
Yeah. 
That's number one rule. 

1401
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,480
Don't try anything new. 
And then the second rule of this

1402
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:12,920
is you, you wanna get, Oh well, 
I would always say you wanna get

1403
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:13,960
some carbs in. 
Yeah. 

1404
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:18,760
So that that's key, but you want
to do that in a way that you are

1405
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,080
comfortable and have tried that 
and and and you. 

1406
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,840
Like it. 
So I would have said, and I 

1407
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,640
reckon I've done this Noosa 
triathlons, half marathons, 

1408
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,120
marathons previously. 
I reckon I've gone with piece of

1409
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,800
toast, peanut butter, chopped up
banana, honey on top. 

1410
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,880
That would be my breakfast, 
right? 

1411
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,840
It's all natural, but. 
I reckon I'm going to be 

1412
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,200
changing it because because of 
the the new show break working, 

1413
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,800
breaking hours and having to get
up and leave the house by 4:00 

1414
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,360
AM, I'm preparing my breakfast 
the night before. 

1415
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,400
So I take it in with me now and 
my breakfast for the last four 

1416
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:57,280
weeks has been the same thing. 
It is half a cup of oats, half a

1417
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:03,760
cup of almond milk, a scoop of 
protein powder, a teaspoon, a 

1418
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:10,160
tablespoon of yoghurt, some 
walnuts, some chia seeds and 

1419
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,400
some Maple syrup and I stick 
that in a an old salsa jar 

1420
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,960
fridge overnight. 
Next morning, I dice up a banana

1421
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:25,080
on top that I have found is the 
most it consistently through the

1422
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,000
day. 
I'm it's just settled. 

1423
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:33,600
There's a sense of calm in my 
stomach and I found that I if I 

1424
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,920
go for runs with it now, like I 
might get hungry if I go for a 

1425
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,240
run, if I eat that in four hours
later I go for a run, I'm 

1426
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:40,880
hungry. 
Or three hours later I go for a 

1427
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,960
run, I might be hungry. 
But it's very settled. 

1428
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,720
There's no, geez, where's the 
nearest toilet? 

1429
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:51,440
There's just a very neutral 
breakfast for my stomach. 

1430
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,640
And I reckon if I was to, if I 
had a half marathon on this 

1431
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,240
weekend, I would still hit that 
as my breakfast. 

1432
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,920
And then I would have the goose 
that I'm used to running. 

1433
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:06,360
I'd have a couple of gels or the
Cliff energy blocks, which I 

1434
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,600
like if I'm doing runs as well. 
So that I'd probably go with the

1435
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:14,040
the gels or the the supplements 
in race that I'm used to and 

1436
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,400
have become used to over the 
last however many years. 

1437
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,440
And that would be my breakfast 
of choice. 

1438
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,240
They must be paying you the big 
bucks at the radio station, 

1439
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:22,440
mate. 
That's there's some of those 

1440
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:26,360
ingredients in your breakfast. 
Nah, it's cheap, solid walnuts. 

1441
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,720
Oh yeah. 
But you buy a big bag, go to 

1442
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,000
Costco, you buy, you get a, you 
get a truckload of walnuts. 

1443
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,840
For that sounded like an 
expensive breakfast. 

1444
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,440
To me, no, no, no mate cost per 
cost per use. 

1445
01:12:36,440 --> 01:12:38,560
You gotta amortise the cost over
the life of these things. 

1446
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:39,760
Cost me. 
Trust me it's fine. 

1447
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,240
Cheaper than going to buddy the 
servos all. 

1448
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,840
The way yes, it is cheaper than 
much cheaper though yes, I'm, 

1449
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,520
I'm definitely getting ripped 
off trying to be convenient 

1450
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:51,480
there yeah, myself, I'll go on 
the race day, yes. 

1451
01:12:51,480 --> 01:12:54,720
So generally when I race I'm 
travelling, I can't think of the

1452
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,280
last time I've raced at home. 
So I'm always with in a hotel or

1453
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,200
in a different state, country, 
whatever it is. 

1454
01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:04,400
And I've always relied on some, 
like a few hours before the 

1455
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,040
event, maybe even up to three 
hours if it's not getting up too

1456
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,440
early is, you know, the old 
porridge you can just pour. 

1457
01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:11,680
It off yeah, the instant, but 
it's. 

1458
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,120
It's all in one. 
So you just buy it at the servo?

1459
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,520
A servo at the supermarket? 
Yeah. 

1460
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,520
All in one. 
That with a banana 'cause I can 

1461
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,480
pretty much find that anywhere. 
Guarantee. 

1462
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,720
And a Red Bull at that time, 
Yeah, I like the Red Bull in the

1463
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:25,760
morning. 
Yeah. 

1464
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:30,640
Get, just get a bit of glucose 
in and start my caffeine build. 

1465
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,800
And then later on, before I'll 
have a hot coffee as well in 

1466
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,120
that period. 
And then just before the race, 

1467
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,440
say 20 minutes before then, I'll
look to put in some type of 

1468
01:13:39,440 --> 01:13:42,920
carbohydrate again. 
And that's, you know, it's 

1469
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,360
dependent on what we're doing 
racing. 

1470
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,120
Like have you had to get a bus 
to a trail race or here on the 

1471
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,480
start line for a marathon? 
It would probably be a gel. 

1472
01:13:50,440 --> 01:13:53,080
Yeah. 
It's very dependent on what what

1473
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:57,840
the circumstances are around a 
race, but in general it's I want

1474
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,880
something that I'm used to which
and consistently do it the same 

1475
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,160
thing, get the carbs in and then
I'm using caffeine. 

1476
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,400
Caffeine. 
Yeah, I love that. 

1477
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:11,840
And now even just nice thing to 
you say that then I reckon I'm 

1478
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:16,600
out of fuelling on race days. 
Like, I'm not saying that what 

1479
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,040
it works for you will work for 
me, but I reckon I err on the 

1480
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:26,200
side of underfuelling out of 
concern that am I going to need 

1481
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:30,560
to stop 10 minutes in, Yeah, 
because of overfuelling. 

1482
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:35,240
The thing here is we could get 
three different very qualified 

1483
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,520
dietitians in and you're going 
to get a different answer or a 

1484
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,880
slightly, you know, different 
answer of what they, yeah 

1485
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:43,640
prefer. 
And they should try and 

1486
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,560
individualise it to you anyway 
of what food you like and what 

1487
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,720
you normally eat and how much 
you can consume, all that. 

1488
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,040
But, you know, we'll get into 
this in, in later in the year 

1489
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,880
with some specialist. 
But you know, even then you got 

1490
01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:00,120
to work it out for yourself to A
to a degree because it's always 

1491
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,640
going to be a different answer. 
I tell you what we get, we sit 

1492
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,160
down before these things and we 
think what are we going to talk 

1493
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:07,560
about? 
And then we get to the end and 

1494
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,680
we look on the run sheet. 
We've left things there that we 

1495
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,360
haven't had a chance to get to. 
Have you got anything you want 

1496
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,000
to get to because we're. 
Let's finish on this. 

1497
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,320
Finish. 
Give us something to finish on. 

1498
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,040
Finish strong. 
You sent me this? 

1499
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,080
Oh, I saw it myself. 
Scott Cadbury sent it in. 

1500
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:25,160
This is a piece of gear. 
It is a Hawker speed loafer. 

1501
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:25,960
Yeah. 
Poker. 

1502
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,280
Poker. 
Yeah, whichever. 

1503
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:37,560
Would you pay $476.48 for a 
loafer? 

1504
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,480
Absolutely not. 
It looks like a boat shoe it but

1505
01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:45,920
it's got a some type of. 
It looks like I'll tell you who 

1506
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,280
I reckon wears those shoes. 
James Packer. 

1507
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:56,720
James Packer, Rupert Murdoch. 
It looks like a very expensive 

1508
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,840
boat shoe. 
And we said, well, you know, we 

1509
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:03,240
took my shoes earlier about the 
New Balance in that type of shoe

1510
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:07,160
in the and Solomon in the 
working into work. 

1511
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:12,400
Who would roll this into work? 
And now that I've said that, I'm

1512
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,400
half expecting to see one of 
those 18 to 28 year old girls 

1513
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,480
that I spoke of earlier than 
thing who can get away with 

1514
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:18,920
wearing it. 
They. 

1515
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,280
'D want to get it on half price.
That is ridiculous. 

1516
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,080
I don't 170. 
See too many shoes that are like

1517
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,120
a production run shoes. 
So like not a one off type 

1518
01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:34,320
specialist collection Nike or 
whatever for 400 and 76176 

1519
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,400
dollars. 
That I keep an eye out for those

1520
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,320
on the red carpet. 
That'll be somewhere those will 

1521
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,080
turn up. 
Someone will wear those on a red

1522
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:42,400
carpet. 
Somewhere, some singer. 

1523
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:43,680
There you go. 
There you are. 

1524
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,440
Alright, very nice work. 
We'll be back next week. 

1525
01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:48,360
Lots more to get stuck in, dude.
Courtney, we'll see you then. 

1526
01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:49,200
Yep, see you then.