F21 in the beginning, Courtney. Another week come around quick.
Another week. These weeks are flying by for me
at the moment. Yeah, well, new job, Yeah, got
so much going on busy. Do you know what I'm missing?
Are you busy or just? Yeah, just I was thinking about
this as I was driving here. My days are full now.
They start early and they seem to finish at the same time as
they did previously. Because I used to work on the
afternoon shift. I would spend all day thinking
about that and I would say no to doing things because I'd have to
go to work sort of in the 1st 12 hours of the day.
Yep, now that my work day is kind of done by 10/10/30, all
these people are asking me to do things and I'm saying yes to
them. And then you've got all day to
do them. And then I've got all day to do
them and then it still gets to 8:00 at night and I'm like, what
happened? And and then I'm getting.
You to do extra stuff. No, no, no, this is an extra
stuff for me. This is my passion, Courtney.
OK, OK, we got we got lost to get through today.
Let's just jump straight in because we've got some feedback
and there's a story that you need to hear in the in the
beginning family needs to hear about as well.
Now Jordan Barter, who he was the one who previously told us
about the race that he and his dad used to do.
Where the horse around the horse?
Tracks run around the horse. Tracks jump on a train, next
horse track, run around the horse track, next track.
Happened in Sydney. Anyway, I know Jordan from
Sydney, but he and his cousin Maddie Jenkins, they've, they're
big fans of the podcast and Jordan has jumped back on and he
wanted to dust and it's a great story.
So just bear with me. This is from Jordan.
He says back when travel was just starting to take off about
12 years ago, my mates and I went all in setting up a bunch
of segments around Malabar headland.
For those of you in Sydney, it's South of Maroubra on the coast
there. This was before they built any
fancy graded footpaths and you'd never see another soul out
there. Now again, to jump off Jordan's
story for a moment, these that Headland has got this beautiful.
Boardwalk duck boards ever since COVID.
Popular as ever. It's an incredible running spot,
that coastal run, beautiful spot.
You end up down at La Perouse, Bear Island there, it's awesome.
You run through the golf courses, it's great.
Anyway, back to Jordan's story. Fast forward five years and
these segments had turned on into a friendly but very serious
competition between us. One day I was out running the
headland when some random bloke absolutely blitzed past me.
I figured he was just showing off because you know, when you
see another runner you naturally crank it up to Olympic level.
He looked familiar, but I didn't think much of it.
Later that night I was just chilling at home when my phone
started buzzing like crazy. I glanced down and the screen
was absolutely flooded with Strava notifications.
Oh. I know where this is going.
Courtney Atkinson stole your segment.
At first, Jordan goes on to say I was in denial.
Who the hell is Courtney Atkinson and why is he ruining
my life? Then it hit me.
Courtney Atkinson, The Olympian, The actual real life
professional endurance machine who's sponsored by Red Bull.
I sat there steering my phone, feeling like a child who had
just had their ice cream stolen by Usain Bolt.
The worst part? The worst part?
There was no getting those segments back.
Ever. We were about each of weekend
warriors going up against the guy who literally made a career
out of being faster than other people.
To this day, none of us ever got those segments back.
I'm pretty sure Courtney still has most of them.
Still probably doesn't even remember.
But we do. Oh, we do.
Oh. Jordan, I'm sorry mate, you know
what, But I consider myself, I'm not Strava sniping, I'm not
purposely going there. That is my local.
When I'm in Sydney, I I try and stay at Coogee.
I run down to Malabar Headland. That's where I do my efforts.
And I feel, yeah, I don't know if they're, I'd actually be
interested to know whether they like the fact that duck boards
are going in after COVID. So they're pretty much now that
the, the trail is no longer a trail, you're literally running
on, you know, springboards around the whole thing.
It's still a beautiful run, but I loved it when it was just pure
trail and you'd like fling around a corner and if you're
going that quick and then there's like something on
someone just pops up in front of you, you're dodging it's.
I love the idea that he thought when you went past him that time
that you were racing him like that's what I love is now he's
he looked, he's looked at you as you were, but as you split the
passing on just mate, don't be that guy.
He's like, I own the segment. Don't be that guy.
I create. I not, I'm not.
I don't just own these segments. I created these segments and
you're just telling them off him.
Yeah, well, I'm sorry Jordan, but I'll be back down this year.
I'm sure someone's probably taken them off me by now.
Oh, I've got no doubt there would be, there would be people
out there. Speaking of segment snopping,
just quickly, fella by the name of Paddy McNamara.
If you're a runner in the Sydney area who's had any injury
issues, you might have visited Paddy.
He's part of the running room physio, which is the same team
that supported Ned Brockman through his various attempts.
Paddy, great runner, great fella, great physio, currently
taking. He's actually an Essex
ambassador as well, but he's taking some time off.
He and his partner are travelling around Australia.
Oh how good. And he is segment sniping.
He is saying that he's one man's mission to steal segments, steal
crowns all around this country. So he's obviously got premium
and he's looking at the heat maps.
Yeah, and he's and he's going out on the trails.
You've been down in Tassie and he's and he's hunting segments.
To go and check it out, see what?
See what he's picking off? Yeah.
I promise he's not doing them on the bike.
He can actually run quite well, this young man.
It's all about Jordan not recognising me as I go past.
That's fine, I'm more than happy not to be recognised, but we've
got to. I want to have a discussion
about a Hedges Ave around a Hedges Ave, for those who don't
know, on the Gold Coast is Millionaires Row.
It is a single lane Rd which is one way.
It has one lane for cars, one lane which is probably, what, a
metre and a half wide for bikes? Run runs between Miami and
Broadbeach. Yep, and then a footpath which
is literally off the road, which I would say is a 60 centimetre
tile wide. Yeah, yeah, in parts it's it's
what a, it's what a for most part.
But I know what you mean. It it gets, it gets pretty.
And so you ought to fit cars, runners and bikes down there.
And this week, there was an Instagram post, I suppose put
out by the Gold Coast Bulletin. But it's an old post that has
caused a bit of commotion down here.
Did you talk about this on the radio?
Yeah, we did. Oh, you did.
Yeah, we did. We asked Tommy Tate.
We asked Tom Tate, the mayor of Gold Coast, about.
So sorry. Tell us.
Well, better tell everyone what we're talking about. 1st So this
so this basically this video of a runner going in One Direction
running in the bike path mm hmm should be said the runner going
in the bike path he. Is in the bike path.
He is in the bike path. Two cyclists going the opposite
way in the bike path. Yep.
And basically this runner makes the decision that he's not going
to move, so he shirt fronts. He basically puts his bumper
bars up, He braces with his forearms, knocks over the first
cyclist, which in turn knocks over the second cyclist.
Run and looks back and keeps on trotting.
Yeah, he's, he's, he's Now this is the debate, right?
Did he just stand his ground or is he purposely put a shoulder
in? Now, what was interesting to me
in this clip, before you tell me what our mayor has said, yeah,
what's interesting in this clip is the way it's been cut.
What do you mean? So it goes for a 5 seconds.
They don't actually show you whether he came off the footpath
onto the road and then this happened.
They cut it as he's already in that space.
Yeah. And and then the worst part of
this whole situation is he doesn't stop to have a look at
the cyclist even after whatever's happened.
You know whether there's aggregate, you know he he keeps
running, which is a problem to. Me.
I agree. But again, they didn't show what
happened after he's quickly ran off the screen.
Did he then decide, you know, so it's all up to interpretation.
But what did a good mayor have to say?
Tommy Tate, the mayor of the Gold Coast, basically didn't
acknowledge the video but said that the intention is for a
wider ocean way to be built in that section of hedges.
They can't. They're not going to go around
the front of the houses, even though it's not private land.
So at the moment, if you don't know the area, the houses that
are on the beach essentially have exclusive beach frontage.
It's public land, but there is nothing between the beach and
their homes. And in sections of the Gold
Coast, the Ocean Way, the walkway, the footpath has been
built in front of the homes on these occasions.
But because this is the high Flyers who own the homes in this
area who carry a lot of influence, hold a lot of sway
and have the power to say we don't really want a footpath
going in front of our houses. The footpath ain't going to go
there. It's going to go around onto
hedges. So it is not a a true ocean way
in the sense in that it is diverted back onto the road.
So Tom has basically said that that is where the OSH, the
footpath will go. Yep.
But his reasoning is because if they put it on the beach side of
those houses, Mother Nature will have its way with it.
Yeah, right. Well, we'll leave that debate
out of it. Sure.
There will be runners on the Gold Coast really interested in
that response. And if they missed, you missed
your radio show because I hadn't heard that.
Yeah, but. Basically, you'll never be out
of the footpath, will never allow you to run with the beach
on your left the whole way of the ghost.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they just need a
solution to to fix. The congestion.
Congestion of the yeah, the traffic, but what I was going
with this one. So, you know, people disagree.
You know, it was a writer's fault.
Run. It's just the old scenario of
whose fault it is. And you know, no one's probably
gonna know. Like I said, it's a a very
chopped up clip, however, and no one should run off after an
accident. No, that let's let's make that
clear too. You should at least go and check
even if you've done the wrong or right thing, whatever it is.
What got me though is if you've watched the clip, there's a,
there's a young girl walking about 5 metres behind all this
and does not even flinch. So she's on the footpath.
But what I, I, I really watch this about 138 times, not
watching the accident, watching this girl, she's walking and you
think if there was like 2 cyclists 5 metres in front of
you fell on the ground, you'd at least turn your head.
Look, you'd, I would probably like, I think put in a little
few steps to like nearly try and catch them.
Hell, whatever it is. That's just a natural reaction.
This. The young girl did not even
move. She just kept walking.
It got me thinking, you know, if she's in the lane and someone's
riding up behind her and had the the same situation, it's like
not going to get out of the way, you know?
This is why it becomes so dangerous.
So I have an enduring memory and I don't remember how or why and
I think it must have been my dad, but explaining to me that
if I ever found myself on a road without a shoulder that I should
always be walking towards the traffic.
You should always be walking essentially head on to the
traffic so you can see it coming.
Yep. And move accordingly.
Right, And I watched that video and going back to who's to blame
the edit, all the rest of it. That's the pedestrians
responsibility. That is that runner's
responsibility to get out of the way of the bike lane.
He's doing the right thing in that he's running into the
traffic against the traffic, so he can see it coming.
But that is a bike lane, right? In the same way that if a car
swerved into a bike lane and caused the accident, it's the
car's fault. There are very few spaces
created on the coast specifically designed for
cyclists. Not to side with the cycles
against the runners here, but I'd be filthy if I was that
cyclist, that runner, and whether he braced or
aggressively went into he shouldn't have been there.
So it was like if it was a the runner, yeah, or a Walker and
the car and a car, would the car be required at least worth to
take action? I would I would expect the car
to avoid. Yep, the I would expect.
The So would you then to expect the quicker machine bike to be
the one to avoid? Well, the difference be to take
action. The difference being that the
car, if you're driving the car, you have a protective shell.
You are literally you're a weapon.
Yeah, right. And you could argue the same
about those cyclists. But at the same time, this, the
runner has moved into the cyclist space.
Yes. It's not as though those
cyclists were travelling at a speed that he couldn't avoid
them. And guess what?
If you're running, and for a moment, because maybe you
mentioned that pedestrian in the video, feels like we're
discussing the JFK assassination.
But maybe for a moment, if that girl in the video is the reason
he came onto the cyclist's path because he didn't want to run up
the back of her, guess what? You do, you slow down.
Yeah, you slow down to a walk so you can get around her or wait
till the cyclists go past. It is that is not an acceptable
action to take to bump a bar to shirt front somebody coming
towards you on a on a bar. It's just not, it's not cricket.
It's that is not fair and reasonable.
But it goes back to many episodes ago, you and I
discussed the idea that maybe we'd reached a tipping point
with running cyclists used to be Public Enemy number one.
This might be just another example of how around certain
areas where running is just is overcrowded, people who don't
run might be Jack of runners. Yeah, I probably didn't want to
run around down hedges. No, last week.
No, no. But we'll put that in the notes
and let us have a look. Have a have a look at it and let
let us know what you think. The next one.
Have you seen this around these runners?
So they're ultra runners and they're running for free
burritos. How how far would you run for a
free? Oh sorry, a burrito per week?
1 free burrito per week in a year.
How far would you run for that? So explain to me the rules.
If I run, I get a free burrito every week.
If I hit a certain distance, no. You, if you are the person who
can run the most distance. Yeah.
On a particular Strava segment. OK, if I.
Become the local legend. You become the local legend for
that month. Yep, we will give you do.
Do you know this company in the States?
Chipotle. Yep.
Mm hmm, they will give. You.
Is that 'cause you didn't think you'd pronounce it right?
100%, yeah. Do you know this?
I'm, I'm, I'm learning this each week, Liam.
I know, I know, I know when to delegate across the table.
As transparent as glass. They're caught.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
So if yeah, so like you, if you
can win this run the most on this segment for the month, you
get free burrito for the rest of the year each week.
I'm not even starting. I'm not even starting this
challenge. You're not starting this
challenge because, and I'll tell you why, because I'm not a
runner who is if, if it gets down to pure athletic ability,
there's going to be better runners than me.
And if it's a choice between winning a free burrito and
boring myself to death on the same segment for a month and
buying my burrito for maybe 15 bucks at Zambrero's and getting
to diversify my running for the month, it's a pretty easy choice
for me. Well.
These Strava challenges have gone to the next level, so they
put ones on. It was in all different cities,
but this particular showdown between two runners in Where Are
We, Tempe, Tempe, Tempe. Colorado.
Tempe Tempe. They have run more than 700
miles each. What's that in kilometres?
Down a 354 metre section. It's over 1000 kilometres.
Done up and down a 354 centre. What got me was too.
It doesn't count both ways. What do you mean?
So the segment is start to finish.
So then you gotta go back. You gotta go back.
This is, and to be clear, this is for one burrito 50.
Two free burritos. For the year.
Valued at 719. I'm still on the USUS dollars.
I'm still not doing it. I'm still not doing it.
Hell no, I'm still not doing it. Hell no, this even got like they
ended up someone flew in and live streamed it anyway, but
this? Is this this comes back to the
idea of runners reward. We talked a bit about this last
week when we went off on the tangent of what something more
than a medal or a T shirt could they OfferUp at the end of the
runs. Look, I'll be honest, I'd rather
get 52 free burritos than a medal.
I would I'd rather if that was what was on offer, if we
finished the Gold Coast Marathon this year, I'd be right on
board. But I'm not, I'm not running
1000 for for 52 burritos. I'm just no, I'm out.
Like again, maybe they don't have families, but I'm out on
that. We talk about jump ahead.
Did you have, you know, we're talking about last week what you
get at our end of the race? Yeah, right.
We're talking about, you know, race medals and all of that.
Now this is this is good so. This is next level.
Sally, who has already written into the podcast a couple of
times, involved with the Goldie Marathon.
She told us that her PB and the 10K she ran in Newtons, which is
the old school shoe that you've got in your shoe museum out in
the garage. Sally went off the back of last
week's discussion about Marathon MERS.
Well, I ran into her in them up in the forest on.
Sunday. Oh, right.
Yep. She and she was listening to us.
This she left an amazing comment about she's run the Nagoya
Marathon which is in Japan. You ever you know much about the
Nagoya Marathon? I've been to Nagoya, don't know
much about the marathon. Right.
Well, she left this. I'm bringing this up on my phone
because I want to get it right. So she has run the Nagoya
Women's Marathon and she said this was the best finishing gift
she has ever received. It was a Tiffany necklace.
A Tiffany necklace presented by a man in a tuxedo.
Just classy, like it and she still wears it.
And this is the bit I like about it and this is the if you're a
race organiser, this is the key part of Sally's comment and I
think of the attitude towards runners as well.
She said she still wears it and it's like she's part of a secret
sisterhood when she spots other women wearing 1.
So that right there, in a sense is what run clubs are all about,
why people enter marathons and why they then wear the shirts
and why they still wear the caps when they run and where why
people have noose triathlons out.
Because it's about, yes, it's about letting people know that
you've done it, but it's also about that camaraderie and
feeling like you're a part of a club.
Yeah. And the specialness, to go back
to Sally's example of a Tiffany necklace.
I did a bit of research on the Nagoya Marathon because when I
heard they would give it was Tuxedo Guys.
How many do they give? When I looked up and there was a
people wearing tuxedo, I was giving out Tiffany necklace.
I thought Sally might be drunk, but it's it's true.
They've given out necklaces. They've also obviously got a bit
more popular because they stopped giving out Nexus and
started giving out pendants, almost like charms that you see
on the charm bracelets. Still Tiffany Bonjour.
So still a really special keepsake.
They're stuck with the event, yeah.
This year it's a Baccarat tumbler.
Now Baccarat is kind of that deluxe homewares brand really,
really nice. So when you say it's when you
say a tumbler like a coffee cup, yeah.
But I imagine it's going to be and I it's in this beautiful red
box. I imagine it's going to be like
your your classic drink water out of glass tumbler.
A tumbler glass that will have a Nagoya Marathon branding on it,
interestingly. How much is it to?
I was going to. I'm glad you asked ¥17,500.
70,176. About 180 bucks.
Good. Value about 180 bucks.
That is great. That's.
For this year now I don't know what it was when the year when
Sally entered and got herself a Tiffany necklace.
Yep. But still you're getting it's
this is, I talked about this idea a bit more with David
Rhodes, yes, former president of North Billy Surf Club, who's in
charge of Paddle Australia now. Yeah, I think he'd want to add
in. He'd want you to add in also an
Olympian. Sorry, Yeah, he also, he also
went to the Olympics. He also went to the Olympics for
the K2K4 kayaking, Kayaking. He battles a boat very well.
But we talked about this idea of, you know, if you absorb, if
race organisers were to absorb the cost of this high end race
prize souvenir, whatever you want to call it, and it doesn't,
you know, add anything onto the race cost, which for most races
these days are already exorbitantly high.
You could do it. You could really, you know, make
a plant a flag that with a physical product that people
want to use for the next 12 months, which then advertises
your race for free and in creates that we're part of a
special club mentality. Yeah, this is like this is this
blew me away because I was thinking, is it like a, you
know, a special. I had so many questions when I
ran away from cell on the weekend.
I was like, well, how many people like, is it a special
gift for, you know, were you invited?
What it is? But there you go.
You they're still doing it. So maybe Nagoya should be on the
should be on the card. I will say, if anybody out there
has, because I tried to, I tried to Google what some other
finisher prizes are for other races around the world.
The problem is you end up just going to the merch shop, like it
just directs you to the jackets or the T-shirts or whatever you
can buy. But if anyone out there has run
a race and got a particularly significant or special finisher
gift, not that you had to buy, but for finishing it, it's what
you got presented at the finish line worthy.
Of a Sir. Worth shouting out.
I don't want a T shirt. I don't want for the most part,
unless it's a truly special pair of clothes.
Item of clothing, yeah, but unique, something that now
whenever you use it or look at it, it's go.
Unless it's a coffee cup from a reputable good yeah brand.
There you go. I know what just Chinese
plastic. No thanks.
Got to be special. Yeah, got to be special.
Anyway. So shout out Sally, and shout
out the Nagoya Marathon. Yeah.
Doesn't it appears to have used to have been a women's only
event? I don't think it is anymore by
the looks of it. OK.
You talk, you talked about her feeling about a bit of a
community there. And we've been talking about,
you know, last week we were talking about like what, what
can we do between our community? Yeah, in the beginning podcast.
Now I want to shut it down this week, but before I do, it's got
out of hand. We had Benny Wilders, my my, my
running partner and doctor. He he he said you should just
point to your ITB. That's not bad, I.
Don't mind. In the beginning, ITBI said to
him. Mate, the one problem with and
we didn't realise this when we just happened to not be able to
call our show a name. So we just decided to call it
the first name. We said yeah, IT BS break.
I don't want us to break. Do ITSI BS break they?
Get They get injured, they get sore, they're always a they're
always. A is.
Is this the reason you want to shut it down or did something
else happen? No, no, no, no.
Something else happened. When you wanna, you wanna get to
that? No, no, no.
This way. Just OK.
Hang, hang, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Brett Quayle. He he he suggested the peace
symbol we got Ryan Kelso bit of the the shackers.
Yeah, yeah. It feel that feels like cultural
appropriation. But what for wine?
Yeah, but. Bret's last week about giving
the finger so this happened to me this morning.
Someone gave me the finger. 5-10 driving out to the forest in my
car. Man on the Parkway out the back
here and the grey Hilux is driving next to me and kind of
speed up. Didn't think too much of it,
pulled in behind him and then suddenly out the window.
Cop the bird. No A.
Hard bird too, like full. Really, Bird?
First thing I thought was, do I know?
Is he is. This guy, this guy and he's
speed up to initiate, I quickly realised.
He's not. I don't think that was the
chase. So.
I kept driving up through the big roundabout at Kurara and
he's he's pulled in front of me by this stage and I'm just it's
so early in the morning. I was heading out to the Bush.
I don't anyway. And then he's pulled up and this
has now got into like a bit of serious, well, semi serious road
rage. Oh, really?
Pulled up in front of me, slowed down and then quickly zoomed off
down Nelson's road and then went down the window and gave it to
me again. What?
What was his? What?
Well, that's what I can't work out mate.
Where did you? I'm now I'm thinking.
The only thing I can think of though, I don't wanna, I don't
wanna say hey, I'm always in the right here is.
Is he maybe just is he maybe a run influencer?
He's he's either, it's either one or two things.
He either is going hardball at us to initiate this finger,
which has made me realise we gotta shut this down.
Yeah, yeah. We can't do that.
We can't do that we. But secondly, I was.
This got me self conscious going.
What did I actually do wrong? Like maybe I was at that time of
morning, you know, when you're just a bit daydreaming or
whatever. Did I just like slightly cross
the roundabout double line in front of him?
I see. Was I in the fast lane going,
you know, the speed limit instead of getting to the to the
job site? I don't know, I don't know.
True story this morning, and it and it.
But it I agree that what's. Interesting.
With that type of let's say call it road rage, yeah, or Rd
aggression is I actually still don't know what I did for 90% of
people, they're going to sit there going what is this I?
Don't understand what I've done. If I knew what I did wrong, I
take accountability I don't. The lesson I've got a good
lesson for those of you out there that might find yourself
in this situation. You never know what's going on
in someone elses car. Who knows what was going on?
He might have just had a hard time from his wife or his
girlfriend or someone as he left the house this morning.
He's gone in his way. Who know you can't begin to
understand what might be going on in someone else's life, so
don't try. I agree with you though, I think
we ought to definitely shut down the flipping the bird, and I
think for now we let go of attempting to come up with an
ITB running greeting. What I would like is just say,
hey Liam, listen and. Great, let's go with that
instead. Courtney, let's go with that.
I'm listening. How you doing?
Yeah, We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll.
Debit. Have a chat.
Alright. Brilliant.
Yeah, brilliant. Have we got any other loose ends
we need to clean up from last week?
Well, I I was kind of jumping ahead of where I wanted to be.
So what do you? Want to go back to I do have
something In fact, while while you find what you want to go
back to you put up a reel of my what do we call it?
My lungs are a toilet analogy. Oh yes, you're very the nasal.
Strip. You're very intuitive.
The anti nasal strip campaign I then went on to compare your
lungs to a toilet system. Yeah I have had some feedback.
OK. There's been a lot of feedback.
But after I shared that a friend of mine, Farrah, who is a
doctor, she's a cardiologist. Right.
So a Siri. Yep.
She just sent back a melting face emoji.
I laughed and said, is this medically accurate, what I've
said here? She said no.
And she left it for a couple of days.
But she wrote back to me today, OK, And I want to share this.
I want to share this with everybody because I don't
proclaim to be a medical professional.
I was having a bit of fun when I compared your toilets, your
lungs to a toilet. Yep, and I do want to share
this. I did put a disclaimer on the
end. There is no science backing.
This and what I will say here, even though I'm about to share
what Farrah has, how Farrah has explained it to me.
If you have any serious medical questions, consult your own
medical professional, right? Yes.
So Farrah, who is a cardiologist, has said she said
let me explain why nose breathing can help.
OK. Essentially the lungs are much
more complex than just being sacks of air, which is what I
was saying that were there are millions of Oh no this is the
word even I can't pronounce. There are millions of alveoli or
little air sacs where gas exchange happens.
Oxygenation that's what then puts the oxygen into your blood.
I'd imagine you want to keep those open for as long as
possible. Breathing is all physics and
pressure differences. Now this is when she talks about
the nose. Breathing through the nose helps
humidify and philtre the air. It slows airflow in which
increases the time for gas exchange to happen in those
little air sacs. It enables increased lung
capacity by increasing chance of diaphragmatic breathing which is
your total lung capacity. Yes, and apparently your nose
also produces nitric oxide, which helps dilate the blood
vessels, relax Airways to facilitate more effective gas
exchange. So basically, medically
speaking, nasal breathing can do lots for your running, for your
breathing, for your aerobic capacity.
In the words of any study I've ever seen, may be more
effective. May be more effective.
There is some supporting evidence there from an MD that
said may be more effective. To follow up Farah's point with
some of my non medical thoughts as well, I don't see many people
in the Olympics running with nasal strips.
And if they were that good, wouldn't Kipchoge be using them?
Yeah, yeah. I've seen, I have seen elite
athletes with nasal strips, like, yeah, I see you.
I know we're kidding. I know we're kidding, but So
maybe we should strip that off our page.
Hey, do you? Think no, no, no, leave it.
Leave it. No, no, no, absolutely leave it.
My point, I think the underlying point of this is if you are a
runner of my level, there's a lot of other things you could do
before you go and invest in nasal strips, OK?
There we go, let's move on. Well, the next topic, I, I,
let's stay on this medical stuff cause for the moment.
I, I'm very interested in this next topic at my age.
And this information is backed by the US Centre for Disease
Control and Prevention. Jesus, where have you been?
Well, I don't know if that's actually anymore.
I don't. I don't know whether we should
trust them at the moment. I will trust them at the moment
either. But have a listen to this one.
Predict how long you're going to live.
The sports you play. Yeah, so recently scientists
discovered that the sports you play have a huge connection on
how long you're going to live. Football players must not live
the longest. Yeah, they're not on the list.
So in 5th place extending someone's life 3.4 years is
actually swimming. In fourth place they found
biking and cycling actually extending people's lives 3.8
years. And in 3rd place they found that
soccer actually increases someone's life 4.7 years.
So in 2nd place is badminton. And they found that if if you
play badminton, your life is extended by 6.2 years.
And in first place the sport that makes you live the longest
is actually tennis. So in any kind of racket sport,
so like pickleball, table tennis, anything with a with a
racket you actually live 9.7 years longer.
What do you reckon? Would you have?
Would you have guessed racket sports?
No way, no way, no way. But if anybody did, again, look,
do you have sciency stuff to talk about here?
No, I there's an this. So obviously that was Elon Musk
talking on Rogan, but the the information he's presenting has
come from this article. Which is it it?
It's a study that they've done over in the States, like one of
their main government organisations.
The only thing I'm saying is 'cause I know that there are
people who listen to the pod who who really enjoy when you
actually take off on your scientific rants about stuff.
I know shout out Alex Rigby, high performance manager from
the Suns, who I saw over the weekend, actually down on the
Iron series, because I'm going to take this into a very non
scientific area. Before you do that, you go.
Since So what I'm saying is this is like, even when it comes to
studies, things change, whatever, but at the moment this
is a legit study that's come out and they've they've obviously
gone to the ends of the earth to try and work this out.
And it has the fact that badminton, tennis has come up
the top and even soccer surprised me.
Soccer going into older age, like that's a recipe to feel
like disasters to me. But anyway, each to their own.
We're we're runners here. Yeah.
I would have expected. Where do you think running came
in? Oh, I would have had it.
I, I, if you'd asked me to guess, I would have put it in
the top five. But if it's not in the top five,
I don't know. It's it's just 10.
It's just, yeah, it's in the top ten, just outside the top five
South in six. But that did that was
interesting to me. I would have thought light
jogging moving into older age would have had more benefit.
Than something like. Than Ratchet.
Sports. OK, Can I?
Give me the non science thing and then I'll just.
I'll give you, I'll give you a little.
Bring it, bring it back. I'll give you a little non
science thing right there is a it's amazing the things that
stick in your brain over the years.
And there was ATV show. Now I'm not going to remember
what it was called, but basically they used to conduct
an experiment. It was an ABC thing where they
would take. What can we trust that either?
Well, no, it was, it was a great show.
They would take like 5 year olds and six year olds and have them
interact with retirement home people.
And it was it was it was the experiment around can they re
engage and reactivate these elderly people by having them
engage regularly with these kids.
Great show. Really fun thing to watch with
your kids when they're sort of that age as well.
And this is your classic ABC feel good type stuff.
But there was a scientific and a medical element to the show
because they would test these elderly people that run through
them through various tests at the beginning to judge how they
were ageing, how, how their health.
Was operating, yeah, at that age.
And it stuck in my brain because one of the tests that they did,
they said was incredibly telling for a person's overall health at
that advanced stage is grip strength.
The ability to they would put that, that, you know, there
there's a little machine that can test your grip strength.
Yeah. And when I hear you say
badminton and tennis, both sports that require you to a
there's the movement and there's the hand eye coordination and
the brain function that required to play those sports.
Correct. But you're holding something.
Yeah. And there's that, there's the
necessity to grip something for a duration of period, which I
again, non medical expertise, I'm just putting their head in
my head. Logically that says group
strength equals good health at an advanced age.
Playing these sports that require you to hold on to
something probably going to help.
I saw again not completely scientific evidence but around
kettlebell walking. Dude, what's the farmers?
Carries farmers carries one of the elements of high rocks, one
of the strength, one of the strength things for high rocks.
100% yeah. And farmers carries like doing
that as like a a staple exercise right throughout your life
because of that grip strength idea is probably one of the
exercises you should include day to day, even as you age.
Yeah, obviously the way it's gonna drop, but just continually
being able to do that. And then they they were writing
like how much weight you should be able to do at what age to
continue this process. But yes, I reckon regardless of
science, you're on the right track.
There's enough evidence. But what I'm where they're
connecting the dots with this tennis stuff.
And where it makes sense to me now is it's community, because
you're always playing with someone.
I didn't think about that. You know, it's a game.
It's a game. It's a game as well as there's a
social aspect. There's a social aspect to going
to the club, yes. Until we have third spaces,
yeah. Yeah.
So it's all that. So it's it's like this nature of
your your group mentality. You're playing the game.
It is hand eye coordination. So it it it provides so much
more than just the fitness aspect.
And it's got the fitness aspect that you gotta run around the
court and be mobile and agile and all of that.
Yeah, but it adds in all those extra things, so that's what
they're citing and why I. Wonder.
I wonder if the data around running for this sort of thing
will improve. As more people.
Do it well, but as as Park Run and these run clubs prevail,
like as as these as that social aspect of running continues to
grow and build, whereas previously it was thought of as
a solo enterprise. Yeah, Now, like badminton and
tennis, there's this club atmosphere around the running
side of it. I wonder if that sees a climb
into the top five if they did this test 10 years, 20 years
down the track. See, I've got this idea.
The way I think about it, this is me personally is I'm like, I
know there's an endpoint running for competition in the sense of
for yourself, for myself, like an endpoint in that you will
eventually age out to be you. You're going to decline quicker
as you age. And I'm trying to make the most
of the fact I've got a few more. You know, I've got years left to
be able to go out there and really give it to myself and and
get something out of it. But then I actually go to the
next step. Well, if I can't get those
things that I've talked about, what I like getting out of
running, you know, they're still racing the young fellas trying
to improve time. You know, I don't think I'll
ever stop jogging because I love it for my head in the bushel.
That's great. But I do think there's a
deflection point there where then I would go back to surfing
a lot more or I would go to to to tennis, like and go and
participate in a pure participate participation sport.
At the moment, I'm still driven by performance competition, you
know, yes, I love it and enjoy it, but that's still what really
drives me. I would pivot so I understand
where they're going with this to be more in a team sport more,
you know, around something that I, I don't have to compare
myself to my old life in and all those things.
That's really interesting. Yeah, that's fascinating.
I. Don't know where that tipping
point is. Hopefully not too soon, but no.
I hope not too soon, otherwise we're gonna have to change this
podcast. That's true.
I feel like Courtney just
announced the end of the podcast in advance.
Yeah, I I get you. I get you.
Well, I hope the competitive fire burns bright because I like
seeing you run fast and like talking about.
That it's not anytime soon anyway.
And on to something a little bit more lighthearted.
I've listened to this one. What happened to your feet?
What do you mean these are my 40 sevens?
Oh, they're 40 sevens. Can I see them?
Yeah. He's off for a lot of support,
right? Wow, come on.
Just. Just are you in a?
Fraternity, are you insane? Are you?
In a fraternity, you could have. Hit somebody.
What was that? I'm asking you a question.
You know, fraternity. No.
Are you Steve Jobs? What?
Hold on a second, are you the billionaire owner of Apple
Computers? No.
Oh OK, well in that case you got no right to wear New Balance
sneakers. Ever.
So this is. Crazy, stupid love.
Yeah, great film. You're you're, you're on to it.
But yeah, the, the the question is how does a Co worker act when
someone wears New Balance? But let's just say any new
street brand into the workplace. Does it depend on the workplace?
I think. Do you can you can.
The solicitors and lawyers are rocking in and.
No, no, no, no Friday, no, no, no.
I don't think solicitors and lawyers are the right people.
I think there is a very narrow window where you can get away
with wearing that style of shoe. Then you balance the Salomon
trail shoes as you as you casual wear and I think that window of
opportunity exists between 18 to 28 for females.
That's no. What do you wear in what?
What are you going into the office wearing?
Going in in a pair, I think they're Nike dunks.
Oh, so you're differentiating between I'm talking about those
like like a nostalgic? Yeah, yeah.
I'm talking about those crazy new ballots St style things that
look like they're a high tech runner but is in fact just a
fashion. You can see, you can see my face
'cause you're calling me out of. Your life.
I well, actually, you do wear them.
I wear them everywhere. You wore them to a meeting the
other day that we had that we can't talk about.
I just remembered. No, I remembered looking at them
at the time. No, that was a serious meeting.
It was a serious meeting and I question why you're wearing
those shirt. No, I.
Just. I I can't pull them off.
You can't pull them off. I think it's just me.
I'm projecting, but I can't pull them off.
OK, no, OK, no. Hey, Speaking of which, just
quickly, this wasn't on the run sheet, but have you seen Nike's
latest campaign around the Air Jordans?
No. I think give it and I might be
wrong on the dates here, but I think they're celebrating the
20. No, it must be longer than that.
Whenever the Nike Air Jordan was first released, which might have
been 30 years ago, 40 years ago, I watched all those.
Jordan documentaries, but I'll never remember the.
Anyway and. Did you watch the?
The last dance yes, absolutely and air the the the fictional
like the fictional movie was amazing so good, but the story
around the first pair of shoes, which was the NBA had
regulations around colours and the how much proportion of your
shoes had to be white. Nike introduced this, the Jordan
Air Jordan shoe, which had too much red on it.
And the executives at Nike said because they were facing a ban
if he turned that in the shoes. And Nike basically turned that
into a commercial and said let's just pay the fine.
He'll play in the shoes which break the NBA's restrictions and
will pay the fine. And it was the greatest, might
have been the greatest piece of advertising.
Some good old guerrilla marketing.
Exactly. Yep.
Now what they're doing at the moment, there's a new, a
relatively new CEO in place for a Nike I, I believe and what he
we just. Spoke about this.
How's your memory? Yeah, we spoke about this last
week the. Fines.
No, not the fines, but there's about this new CEO and sorry the
direction, but. What he's doing is this
direction that he's taken. Yep, is instituting fines on
premise at Nike to anybody caught wearing Air Jordans.
It's a stunt. It's a yeah, it's a stunt.
But he's basically and now so much so that the famous statue
of Michael Jordan in the Air Jordan post, they have attached
like a blackout box blocking the shoes from so on all the
marketing products and everything.
Air Jordans are all It's a great piece of marketing.
I'm gonna have to go and check it.
Out I've I've I've. Missed that one.
All right, I, I, you know, we're talking about third spaces at
the end of last week and having this other spot to go.
This came to me from James so Geelem on IGJEA Double LUM.
I'm gonna play it. And now we're gonna have to
translate it a bit after, but it's still worth worth having to
play. OK, until I learned about this
ASIC store near Tokyo station. It's a unique store where we can
wear running shoes before buying them or even try to colour the
society comfort zone. There's not all guys.
You can also rent everything else you need, from T-shirts to
pants, even tights. With the rental you get access
to this. OK.
I'm just rental. It's a rental.
I'm going to, I'm going to translate because I've watched
the Reel a few times. It is a rental shoe and running
ASIC store in Tokyo, so just near Tokyo station you you've
gone to work, you've, you know, rocked up as a tourist or
whatever. You can go into this ASICS run
store and literally go in pick out what you want to wear get
your shoes, get your socks, get your run shirt, get your things
what as a singlet go off on your runs, sweat it out sweat it out
to your heart's content. Come back the showers.
It's like a club room and then at the end just drop all that
dirty stuff in the pile and on you go.
First reaction. What do you reckon?
First reaction when you started explaining this, why, why would
anybody want to rent clothes or shoes to run in?
What that was? That's my first reaction.
And then as you got to the end and said the idea of just being
able to leave it and leave, yeah, you get change.
You have your shower and instead of shoving your clothes and
shoes into a bag and taking it with you, leave.
You worked in the centre of Tokyo.
Would you use this service? If I was in Tokyo, yes, because
of the premium of space. So in Tokyo it's very different
to here in Australia and space is at a premium.
So you're probably not going to have room for your washing
machine and a dryer in your home.
What's more, if you can have a third space in which basically
or you can reduce the need for certain cupboard space for if
shoes and athletic wear another safe spacing exercise.
So in Tokyo, yes, here, no, I wouldn't do that.
You know, I wouldn't do that. I didn't I don't I don't know if
we're that culture. I don't know if we're a, a, a
cloth lending culture, a cloth borrow.
Would you borrow clothes? I no, no, but I also hadn't
thought that. Much in.
Depth about it. I just I just saw it and I
thought this is a really great. I like not really really good
idea. Nice idea.
The fact you just and if you wanted to try some massive shoes
bang, because that's what we're talking about.
You know, like in the end they're going to try and sell
something to you. By the way, this has just made
me think of something I'm going to do at some point in the
coming weeks. I found myself at a supermarket
the other day just having some lunch and I looked across and
there was a footlocker and, and I was just watching, I was
eating my lunch and I was just watching the woman talking to a
bloke who walked in there, middle aged bloke.
And I was like, I wonder what that, and I was standing in
front of the running the run shoe section and I'm like, I
wonder what that conversation is.
So what I'm going to do at some point in the next couple of
weeks is I'm going to go into, I won't say the name of the store,
the type of store. I'm going to go into a shoe
store and I'm going to say go undercover.
I'm I'm going to do like a mystery shop.
I'm going to say, I'm new to running.
What would you recommend? And I'm, I want to walk through
the experience from the start of how I end up with the shoes they
recommend. Now I'm not going to buy the
shoes, but I want to see where if I tell them I'm a beginner
runner who maybe I've just stopped playing footy and I'm
running a bit, mostly on roads, what what they end up
recommending for me because I'd be fascinated to know.
Okay, so stand by you. You might have just given the
idea away though. But.
I'll look, I'll do it with a couple of different places.
In fact, I might do it with a couple of different and see if I
get different results from different shops just.
Don't go into rebel sport at PAC Fair.
And he could run into Michael Shelley, OK.
And he's probably gonna completely.
Yeah, he'll he'll save Ruby. Well, he's also gonna ruin the
idea because he I'm assuming he can probably he'll give you
pretty good. Advice.
He'll just go. Nobody serve him.
I let you gotta. Let's talk about our run weeks.
What's been going on with you? Oh, what have I?
What have I been up to? Well, I talked about going out
to the forest this morning and getting heckled on the way out
there in the car. Yes, actually, I've, I've my KS
are back up. I'm running.
Well, everything's going all right.
It's been hot as hell. What I do want to talk about is
what in my mind I went through yesterday at our Tuesday fart,
like at the Spit. So every every week I've talked
about a run at the Spit, we do some type of fart.
Like it can be anywhere from 20 minutes something.
We had a small group that I was kind of being the ringleader of
to a degree. But we kind of all make up the
sessions. Gold Coast Run Co have come back
and their late squad's coming back down and meeting us at the
same time now, which is brilliant, right 'cause we've
got we've got a group to run with.
It takes a little bit of the decision making out of our heads
as well. We just get there and do what
Jacko says. Yesterday I haven't done,
obviously been away, so I haven't done a lot of hard work.
When I got there, there was a couple of guys, Giordo and a
young fella from TSS who who is obviously one of the quicker
cross country runners. I had a decision to make.
When I'm doing this fart lick, do I go my own pace and kind of,
I know I'm going to fall off the back of these guys and end up
running by myself and then on the way home, so we go out and
back, Yeah, on the way home they're going to catch me and
then maybe I can try and keep up or whatever, right?
I'm trying to build through build at the moment and get this
speed back. Or do I dig in and just go with
them initially, get the speed knowing that I'll eventually
drop off, right? What do you think I did?
Knowing you, you weren't with them, I went with.
Them. Yeah, yeah.
The reason I tell the story? Yeah, I went with them and I
blew. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't like the whole idea was to run out 12 minutes and and
you had to make it back. Yeah, Jacko wasn't so defined
like you got to do extra if you make it back.
He probably should have. I didn't make it back.
He didn't make it back either. But what happened was I've run
out with him and I'm feeling pretty comfy and that that's all
happened. But in my head, there's that
decision of making, you know, if you're gonna just follow every
bit of science to the letter. I shouldn't have done that.
I should have run my own pace. Yep.
Got the most out of the session in that.
Way. So why did you buck the science?
One, because I love competition, I want to run with people,
right? I wanted to run with if they
don't want to run with them. The second reason though, and
this is the the key reason why I did it, was I'm focused on
trying to get myself a bit quicker at the moment over
shorter distances. And I figured having the pacing,
getting out over over that first, even if it was just for
10 to 15 minutes at the quicker leg speed and having help to do
that, I was going to get more benefit out of it at this stage
in my prep than I would do in the whole session.
And how do you when was that session 2 days?
Ago yesterday morning. Do you feel like in hindsight
now that's that's all good? In theory, yes.
In hindsight, looking back on the session, do you feel like it
actually benefited you? Yes.
OK, I. Didn't cook.
I mean, I didn't cook myself. I was pretty knackered yesterday
to be honest. Anyway, I like it.
The next thing, one more thing, I want to give a massive shout
out to country people. Jeez.
I know that's that's wide range. Jeez, a big, that's a big
blanket. But he specifically I want to
shout out to the Rafa's Coffee at Beau Desert.
Hi. So I was out on a trip
yesterday. I've been doing a little bit of
scouting for a few things out in the back of the hinterland and
around looking at a a few different run things for Red
Bull. At the moment I pulled into the
Beaudesert I starved and I hadn't had lunch.
Pulled in through the coffee shop, the drive through at
Beaudesert. The difference between the
service I get at Southport across from TSS and and and what
I got at Beaudesert from the young ladies in there is chalk
and cheese. I felt like getting out of the
car and having a good old chinwag with them and.
Amazing. It's it doesn't surprise me.
Amazing. It doesn't surprise me.
So shout out to it. OK, It's a shout through.
Well, it's I mean, you could compare it to the attitude you
meet in your fellow runners on the trails as opposed to on the
on the flats. You bump into people on the
trails for the most part. Small, big wave.
Well, you. Don't consider participating
that far out, but Jesus, it was it.
It left an impression on me. And yeah.
I'm gonna. All right.
Shout out to country. Yeah.
What? About you what?
What are you? What are you doing this with me
mate? Have you ever had a DEXA scan?
No. Do you know what 1 is?
I do know what 1 is. For those that don't know,
playing along at home, a DEXA scan basically measures how fat
you are. It's much more complex than
that, so. So basically, can I just ask,
Yeah, Were you fat? According to I had a DEXA scan
and according to my BMI which. Body mass index has since.
Proven to be not the most accurate form of measuring
somebody's weight. I'm overweight.
Really. According to my how much BMII am
overweight? OK, I don't know.
I don't know, but BMII don't understand it anyway.
But what do you at a guess? What do you think my body fat
percentage is the reason why you think no, no, no.
So this this is language I understand.
OK, why you think though? The reason I'm doing this?
I've signed up to an 8 week challenge with a bunch of the
boys from down South who train in the Crumb and Ally.
A lot of them are surfers. It's run by Johnny Gannon who's
a personal trainer. Used to train Taj Burrow on the
WSL for years. Has a great reputation.
I've never met John, but I've signed up to his challenge along
with all these other guys and part of it, the start of it is
you go and get this DEXA scan so that you have a point of
comparison by the end of the eight week challenge.
Now he has strength and conditioning programmes tied in
with the. But also the big thing for me is
the nutrition sort of things. It's about being really
conscious about what you're eating and how you and.
Does he give you this pro There's.
A there's a nutrition element to it as well, some advice and some
calorie counting things elements to it.
So it's all provided, which is great.
But again, you get the DEXA scan at the start and and when when's
the oh sorry 8 weeks 8 weeks. So just before Kunani.
Yep. So I I.
So we should say the Solomon Golden Trail Kanani runs.
Salomon Golden Trail, Kunani. That's.
What we're going to run. I will be at my hopefully I'll
be cherry ride. You're gonna be.
That's when this eight week challenge hill climbing.
Whipped. That's right.
What would you think? My body fat percentage is corny.
I won't take offence. I'm.
Gonna say 15 ish. That's that's too kind.
I'm an 18. If I said if I said ish.
So I'm at 18% now. I saw that number and had no
idea what it meant. Yep.
I've since gone on to look it up.
That puts me in basically they say 18 to 24 is about the
healthy range for somebody of my age.
OK. Right, so, so why do you say
then? No, I'm just saying that's my
starting point. Well, no, because that's what
the BMI says. Oh, OK.
Because of my weight, I'm 172 centimetres tall and I weigh 80
kilos. Now that's heavy for that height
according to the BMI, right. But I'm a stocky little thing.
I've got there's a lot of a lot of muscle, a lot of muscle mass.
In these weights. But yeah, no, it's just
interesting is so now I have an understanding of apparently I've
got a very fat head, though my head is.
What is in holding fat or just? I don't know, big head.
My head has 20% body fat. I don't know.
This report has a whole heap of numbers on it, but maybe you can
decipher a formula. No, no, I don't know that.
But I mean, as far as just body fat in general, guys, I mean, I,
I lived through the era of. Callipers.
Oh yeah. Skin fault.
Skin faults. Every every.
You know, multiple times a year with heading to the Queensland
Academy, a sport or AO, Australian Institute, a sport,
whatever it was at the time, and we'd have our skin folds taken.
I mean, that was just as normal as getting a drug test.
Now, not to take you into cancellable territory.
No, on this topic I'm happy to speak.
But callipers in that skin fold is almost like it's considered
nearly taboo. Ancient history, it's taboo,
it's frowned upon. It's almost, it would almost be
in some places, considered bullying in the elite
performance workplace. Well, in some.
In some, that's what I mean. Behind the scenes I I can give
you some good advice that it's still happening.
Still happening. Because it may.
Because it works. Right.
Why is it good? Well, I mean, it's, it's if you
want to know what your body fat is, yeah, stick the callipers on
there at number of different points and then you are able to
map that out over time. It's a great knowledge of like
you, you can take your body weight and how that's increasing
or just increasing or decreasing.
But if you're increasing your muscles, your muscle mass and
your body fat's going down, that's not all necessarily a bad
thing, right. So you're getting more data
points that way, the callipers itself.
And look, there may be digital versions or whatever else these
days. I mean, I haven't had done to me
specifically, but I was always as a performer.
Yeah, I was more. It was just another data point
that I wanted to improve. I wanted to be as light.
I wanted to be as light but as healthy as I could to go and
race. And if that meant getting tested
and getting my, my, you know what my my skin folds were at
that time, I'd never flinch. Why would I?
Why would you flinch at getting your skin folds taken if the
goal was to be in better condition to go and form
perform? So what do you how does it go
down with you when you hear that it's?
Oh it's BS. Absolute BS.
I'm not surprised that that's your response.
We've what? I there there's like if there's
no law, if there's no performance reason to do it, so
be it. But if part of performing better
in whatever sport we're talking about is if having the correct
weight and a healthy weight is the goal, why wouldn't you use
every tool at your disposal to do that?
Mic drop? Boom.
I agree, I agree and I've never been an elite athlete anyway.
In eight weeks time I look forward to being able to tell
you and everybody else what my new 5% is. 5%.
I won't get that low. What do you reckon?
You, you, you won't get that low well.
Tell me what? Will I drop that's the kind of
percentage 5 to 6% or even lower is like for for like some of the
males racing. Well, I'm not going to get to
that. You're not.
What do you think I can get to in an 8 week period?
I have. I'm disciplined if I'm
disciplined. I would.
I'd only be guessing. I have no idea, but I would I
think down towards 10%. Geez, without having any science
on this, just this is just me and you talking without anyone
else listening, I would go, you know, like.
Hey, 10%, wow. But maybe that's not a cheat I.
I might win the challenge with that because there's it's a
proper competition. But I've got no, no, it's too
late. No background knowledge of how
quickly you can lose that boy. Said it.
Tell you what, no matter how fast I can lose it, I can put it
on quicker. That's probably the case for
everybody. Yeah, that is true.
That is true. How are we travelling for time?
We still got some time to talk about because there's some
listening. Questions that are coming.
We've got a lot going on. I did want to say someone sent
me in we're talking about tattoos last week and stickers.
They, I can't say the source didn't want to be named, but he
they, they did send in a guy who is flaunting on Instagram A42
tattoo. Background.
This is the idea of overseas, internationally, that people are
wearing the 26 point, whatever it is, tattoos to show that
they've run a marathon. I thought it would never catch
on here. I didn't think we were that.
Tight and I said it wouldn't, Courtney said.
It wouldn't. The fact.
Looks like Courtney's right. That's a.
Data plot of one but. That's.
Annoying. I'm telling you mate, it's
coming. It's better.
Good luck to that bloke, but we do have.
I'd love to meet you and ask you what are you thinking?
We'll we'll get some of the other stuff in next week.
But yeah, let's get to the questions.
We got some questions. Now where's this first question?
Because it was a good one. This one's for you.
Oh, go for it. I.
I don't want to answer this one. I think this is right up your
alley. So John, what's sending?
Any cheat codes or tips for young dads with kids under 12
months old to get some KS in? You're closer to that.
I am closer my my youngest is 4, my oldest is 8, yours a bit
older than that. My first advice, John, would be
assuming you've got a kid under 12 months old.
I'm assuming that you're with your partner.
I would the first thing I would say is find out when works for
her for you to disappear, right? It's you could throw them in a
pram. You could, but if that's not how
you're used to running, you could adapt or and, and, and
start running with a pram. But if you can carve some time
out to create that. And I don't know how far you
run, but like if you can carve yourself out a 45 minute window
of opportunity to run as with a with a under 12 month.
And whether that be at night or in the morning or in the middle
of the day. I don't know where you live and
what the conditions you're training with, but if you can
carve out 45 minutes in your day, well, I think you can.
The point is, you can carve out 45 minutes in your day at least
three times a week. I would have thought if that's
what you're used to running, despite having this 12 month
old, what it will mean is making some sacrifices elsewhere in
your day so that maybe from 6:00 PM onwards you are on the clock
so that your wife can get a decent night's sleep or that
she's not doing the whatever. Cheat.
I don't think there's a cheat code.
I think it's just being very clear and saying to your wife or
or your mum and dad, if you've got family support around,
that's what your friends and family are for is and be honest
about it, is that running matters.
To me. Running helps me with aim of
fitness, but as Courtney's it's mental health stuff.
It's what I need to do. Be upfront with that.
Can you help me carve out 345 minute windows each week so I
can go get my running done? That's that's what I would
suggest. Lean on friends.
I think often, and I don't want to make this parenting advice
because everybody's kid is their own.
I'm not going to tell you how to raise your own kids, that's up
to you. But I think for blokes in
particular, we can be reluctant because it's our wives or the
woman that's gone through the process of carrying the kid and
off and then giving birth and then the physical recovery and
then also for the 1st 12 months when the kid still needs mum to
breastfeed. And we are useless to an extent
we can be like we can feel useless at times.
But there's nothing wrong with leaning on your support network
around you, your friend. When they offer help, it's not a
token offer. When your family offers help,
it's not a token offer. Say yes.
Sometimes you can feel a bit emasculating to say I need help.
Say yes and if it's and it's not selfish or wrong to accept the
help so that you can go for a run.
Solid advice mate, there you go. I'm going to, you know.
I'm going to do some counselling after this.
Have you ever run with one of those?
Yeah, right. Did you have it with your kids?
It. Just doesn't if.
It's for the same reason I've why I'm not a huge fan of
running on the treadmill in that it it just, it created an I
couldn't find my cadence running with those things.
And again, when it came back to it, I'm like, well, how badly do
I want to go for a run right now if I've got this hour where I'm
on dad duty? Yeah.
Why don't I just go play with the kid?
Why don't I go play with my son, play with my daughter, and then
I'll find the window to run. And and do it properly.
Another time. Why Rob?
Peter to pay Paul. Yeah, you know.
OK, that makes it. That makes a bit of sense.
Always wondered. Never, never never tried them.
You've never tried them? No.
OK. Spatney Spartani, Spartani
Spartani. I don't know.
Yeah. Anyway, he's he's sent through a
question on Instagram said hey lads, great podcast, great chat.
Few questions for the potty. Do you stretch before runs?
I used to, but I haven't for six months now and haven't seen any
injuries from not stretching go. Right.
Do I stretch before a run? No.
Do I activate before a run? Yes, difference.
Explain it. Difference is actually going
through some range of motion stuff, so it's not a static
stretch. So you could call it stretching,
I suppose, activation, but it's like an actual mobility stretch.
So yesterday morning and look, sometimes I've got a lot of time
and I might roll out here a little bit at home.
That's very, very rare 'cause I run early.
But if I get down to the park, if I go to like a few minutes
before we run. Yesterday I was just simply
doing some squats, you know, bounding out the left, get
through some single leg, just lost lunges.
Lunges. I mean, single leg lunges is
always, you know, the best one for me.
If you're really limited on time, at least just go through
something. And then the final one that I
always like is some type of glute, just some trying to
activate your glutes a little bit.
The good one for those is the. The bridge just, well, just
laying on your. Background and lifting up also.
The other one is that if you're standing and you'd kind of do a
sideways step, yeah, and then squat down.
Or even if you, I mean a really easy one is just to have a band
like one, like a gym band in the car and do a couple of like, you
know, crab walks. That's a good crab.
Walks are really easy. Spartney and do anybody else
who's wondering about stretching activating for runs, How much do
the one of those bands cost you? From Kmart, probably 6.
Bucks, go and get one of those bands, throw it in the back of
the car. Yeah, you'll forget about it,
and then you'll find yourself somewhere better to go for
running. Yeah, In fact, buy 21 in the
back of the car, one in your, one at home.
So any activation, but probably just as we're talking through
the the crab ones, probably really simple and easy, few
lunges and go and run, jog into it.
What's the comfiest run socks you recommend?
Rd slash try. Oh, this is a really, really
simple answer. So the comfiest?
If they're comfy enough, that's fine with me.
What I look for in a sock is longevity.
I don't want my heels in. I don't want the heels and the
socks. Like after, you know, two or
three months suddenly starting going thin and then be at risk
of being out on a run and then breaking.
Do you have a brand that you use or that you've so?
Yeah, so Swift Wick, Swift Wick, I swear by Swiftwick sock.
Now I have recently got some Solomon socks because I've just
started doing socks. So this is a little bit of a,
well, this is a little bit of a, a plug, a little bit of a plug
for the Solomon stuff. So I'll race in those socks.
They're super lightweight. Yeah, a really nice cotton sock.
That's what I'll race in, but for training and for over and
over use against, we have a look at Swiftwick Socks.
Swiftwick OK, I haven't heard about them I.
Got into them, I used to ride for when I was back in tries.
So if you're into triathlons or cycling that everyone will know
the brand Envy now, Yep, it's like quite popular.
But back going back probably 10 or 15 years ago was a little bit
more niche and it was bloody expensive.
And I was lucky enough to get my hands on a few freebies over my
time. And how I got into the Swiftwick
socks was they were doing collabs with Swiftwick.
Wore them then and then forever since I've just gone and I'll
just buy 7 at a time. Yeah, last question from
Spartani. Best race supplement for half
marathon race day. That's jeez.
I mean, he seems like it's a throwaway question.
That's a big one. That's.
That's a big question. There.
Depends what you're talking about within the race or which
is probably too longer discussion and everyone's going
to be different in there. Well, here's it.
I I'm gonna we'll start with you.
Liam, what would you do right now if you in the morning before
1/2 marathon, what do you eat? What do you drink?
Before 1/2 marathon, Yeah, 'cause there's no.
Right or wrong, I think the biggest thing is, don't you, you
don't try anything new. No, exactly don't.
Yeah. That's number one rule.
Don't try anything new. And then the second rule of this
is you, you wanna get, Oh well, I would always say you wanna get
some carbs in. Yeah.
So that that's key, but you want to do that in a way that you are
comfortable and have tried that and and and you.
Like it. So I would have said, and I
reckon I've done this Noosa triathlons, half marathons,
marathons previously. I reckon I've gone with piece of
toast, peanut butter, chopped up banana, honey on top.
That would be my breakfast, right?
It's all natural, but. I reckon I'm going to be
changing it because because of the the new show break working,
breaking hours and having to get up and leave the house by 4:00
AM, I'm preparing my breakfast the night before.
So I take it in with me now and my breakfast for the last four
weeks has been the same thing. It is half a cup of oats, half a
cup of almond milk, a scoop of protein powder, a teaspoon, a
tablespoon of yoghurt, some walnuts, some chia seeds and
some Maple syrup and I stick that in a an old salsa jar
fridge overnight. Next morning, I dice up a banana
on top that I have found is the most it consistently through the
day. I'm it's just settled.
There's a sense of calm in my stomach and I found that I if I
go for runs with it now, like I might get hungry if I go for a
run, if I eat that in four hours later I go for a run, I'm
hungry. Or three hours later I go for a
run, I might be hungry. But it's very settled.
There's no, geez, where's the nearest toilet?
There's just a very neutral breakfast for my stomach.
And I reckon if I was to, if I had a half marathon on this
weekend, I would still hit that as my breakfast.
And then I would have the goose that I'm used to running.
I'd have a couple of gels or the Cliff energy blocks, which I
like if I'm doing runs as well. So that I'd probably go with the
the gels or the the supplements in race that I'm used to and
have become used to over the last however many years.
And that would be my breakfast of choice.
They must be paying you the big bucks at the radio station,
mate. That's there's some of those
ingredients in your breakfast. Nah, it's cheap, solid walnuts.
Oh yeah. But you buy a big bag, go to
Costco, you buy, you get a, you get a truckload of walnuts.
For that sounded like an expensive breakfast.
To me, no, no, no mate cost per cost per use.
You gotta amortise the cost over the life of these things.
Cost me. Trust me it's fine.
Cheaper than going to buddy the servos all.
The way yes, it is cheaper than much cheaper though yes, I'm,
I'm definitely getting ripped off trying to be convenient
there yeah, myself, I'll go on the race day, yes.
So generally when I race I'm travelling, I can't think of the
last time I've raced at home. So I'm always with in a hotel or
in a different state, country, whatever it is.
And I've always relied on some, like a few hours before the
event, maybe even up to three hours if it's not getting up too
early is, you know, the old porridge you can just pour.
It off yeah, the instant, but it's.
It's all in one. So you just buy it at the servo?
A servo at the supermarket? Yeah.
All in one. That with a banana 'cause I can
pretty much find that anywhere. Guarantee.
And a Red Bull at that time, Yeah, I like the Red Bull in the
morning. Yeah.
Get, just get a bit of glucose in and start my caffeine build.
And then later on, before I'll have a hot coffee as well in
that period. And then just before the race,
say 20 minutes before then, I'll look to put in some type of
carbohydrate again. And that's, you know, it's
dependent on what we're doing racing.
Like have you had to get a bus to a trail race or here on the
start line for a marathon? It would probably be a gel.
Yeah. It's very dependent on what what
the circumstances are around a race, but in general it's I want
something that I'm used to which and consistently do it the same
thing, get the carbs in and then I'm using caffeine.
Caffeine. Yeah, I love that.
And now even just nice thing to you say that then I reckon I'm
out of fuelling on race days. Like, I'm not saying that what
it works for you will work for me, but I reckon I err on the
side of underfuelling out of concern that am I going to need
to stop 10 minutes in, Yeah, because of overfuelling.
The thing here is we could get three different very qualified
dietitians in and you're going to get a different answer or a
slightly, you know, different answer of what they, yeah
prefer. And they should try and
individualise it to you anyway of what food you like and what
you normally eat and how much you can consume, all that.
But, you know, we'll get into this in, in later in the year
with some specialist. But you know, even then you got
to work it out for yourself to A to a degree because it's always
going to be a different answer. I tell you what we get, we sit
down before these things and we think what are we going to talk
about? And then we get to the end and
we look on the run sheet. We've left things there that we
haven't had a chance to get to. Have you got anything you want
to get to because we're. Let's finish on this.
Finish. Give us something to finish on.
Finish strong. You sent me this?
Oh, I saw it myself. Scott Cadbury sent it in.
This is a piece of gear. It is a Hawker speed loafer.
Yeah. Poker.
Yeah, whichever.
Would you pay $476.48 for a loafer?
Absolutely not. It looks like a boat shoe it but
it's got a some type of. It looks like I'll tell you who
I reckon wears those shoes. James Packer.
James Packer, Rupert Murdoch. It looks like a very expensive
boat shoe. And we said, well, you know, we
took my shoes earlier about the New Balance in that type of shoe
in the and Solomon in the working into work.
Who would roll this into work? And now that I've said that, I'm
half expecting to see one of those 18 to 28 year old girls
that I spoke of earlier than thing who can get away with
wearing it. They.
'D want to get it on half price. That is ridiculous.
I don't 170. See too many shoes that are like
a production run shoes. So like not a one off type
specialist collection Nike or whatever for 400 and 76176
dollars. That I keep an eye out for those
on the red carpet. That'll be somewhere those will
turn up. Someone will wear those on a red
carpet. Somewhere, some singer.
There you go. There you are.
Alright, very nice work. We'll be back next week.
Lots more to get stuck in, dude. Courtney, we'll see you then.
Yep, see you then.