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In the beginning, episode 53 and
we are back across the table 

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from one another corner. 
You're back from Bali. 

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Yeah, well, I always liked it so
much better in person, isn't it?

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You're off much? 
How much sleep? 

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Yeah. 
I caught the red eye home last 

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night so I got I walked in the 
door about two hours ago and I 

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reckon I got one hour of dodgy 
Jetstar sleep overnight so. 

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And one hour of Jetstar sleeps 
probably the equivalent of like 

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half an hour of decent. 
Yeah, and and the other three 

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families I was travelling with 
some how we were on Virgin. 

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I don't know what I did but 
anyway. 

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Isn't it funny when you book? 
I was. 

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I think about this in the 
mornings when I'm on the way 

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into the radio show, 'cause I'm 
on the roads, there's very few 

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people around. 
But occasionally I'll see 

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somebody with a suitcase in hand
who's clearly booked the first 

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flight out of the Gold Coast. 
And I think those people hate 

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the past versions of themselves.
Who? 

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The past version of you sees 
that early flight and it's $200 

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cheaper and go yeah, I'll just 
catch that. 

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But the you that has to deal 
with the that flight in the 

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moment, it gets so angry with 
past you for trying to save. 

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Money. 
That's me. 

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Yeah, every week, Liam, 
especially now daylight savings 

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is coming because to get to 
Sydney it is the 6:00 AM flight.

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So yeah, we are on the Red Bulls
today because I need every bit 

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of cafe. 
I get we're both on the Red 

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Bull. 
Today talk about Red Bull and 

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you know, people go no one 
drinks that stuff. 

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Have a listen to our Lions Cam 
Rainer. 

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He must. 
Do you get man of the match 

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against the Suns? 
He was, he would, he would have 

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been in my best two players on 
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When I was watching you, at one 
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set of wing, and then they 
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It looked like a Red Bull and 
everything in it, and you've 

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slugged it down. 
You're a crook. 

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Yeah, I'll beat crook. 
I'll wait. 

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Your throat's still a little 
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Little bit outrage. 
But the concoction was out. 

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It was a Red Bull assault table 
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I'll be trying that anytime 
soon. 

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Yeah, wouldn't recommend that. 
You could have told me when the 

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Rainer cocktail, the Red Bull, a
No dozen assault tablet. 

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Brisbane Lions on on the on the 
good, on the good stuff. 

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Well, big shout out to Cameron 
'cause it's grand final day. 

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It's, if you're listening to 
this on on the Saturday, the day

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it drops in his grand final day 
and the Brisbane Lions are going

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for back to back premierships. 
Yeah, well, I mean in that game 

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it is here he is sick. 
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was an animal. 
That game, that animal was after

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the game against the Gold Coast 
Suns and he was unstoppable. 

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He was unstoppable. 
Him and Josh Dunkley, they 

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bullied the Gold Coast Suns. 
They were just too physical for 

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them. 
I think they win again today and

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here's a here's a statement for 
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If the Brisbane Lions win today,
they have the potential. 

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It'll be, it's their third grand
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If they win today, it's two wins
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the players that are coming to 
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offseason, presuming all trades 
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you, you could be talking about 
this current Brisbane Lions team

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under Chris Fagan as one of the 
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decades. 
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Oscar Allen, 2 bigs that they're
expected to get, there's another

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kid coming in this year's 
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system, the ongoing development 
of their youth, this team could 

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dominate the comp for the next 
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Inside Word camera and a the and
and, all fuelled by the camera 

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and a cocktail of a Red Bull and
Nodos tablet and a salt. 

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Tablet. 
That's, that's, that's yeah. 

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I wonder maybe would he say he 
said salt, didn't he? 

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Salt tablet, Salt tablet and 
Nodos and A and A and a Red 

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Bull. 
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reason in my head I was thinking
pickle juice and I was going so 

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a Red Bull pickle juice and 
that'd. 

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Be pretty good too. 
That'd be a decent. 

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One we could, could, would, 
would Red Bull entertain a Cam 

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rain, Cam rain again, get his 
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There we go. 
You never know. 

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You never know. 
Hey. 

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Yeah. 
From Cam Rainer to Harry Styles.

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Yeah, there's a job do. 
You know who Harry Styles is? 

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I. 
Do know One Direction? 

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All right, I just got kids. 
I always, I always want to check

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before we jump into these. 
If you don't know who Harry 

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Styles is, he is the he's Justin
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He is one of the biggest pop 
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years, part of One Direction. 
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Harry Styles is now a member of 
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club. 
Yep, going Incognito. 

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This is Berlin marathon last 
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Harry Styles, who's 31 now, has 
run a 25913, which was more than

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25 minutes better than his 
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in March. 
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we can say Harry's got the 
running bug because if you run a

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324 marathon and then come back 
for more and you will you tick 

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off Tokyo and now you've ticked 
off Berlin. 

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I think it's probably not too 
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I can see Harry wanting to tick 
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So I think I'll say it. 
We're going to see Harry and. 

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You reckon he'll come down and 
see? 

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I reckon we see Harry and Sydney
now mate. 

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Might take five years. 
Four years. 

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No, no, no. 
You think he's listen up. 

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Sydney Marathon listen up 
message for you. 

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I'm looking down the camera as I
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Elliot Kipchogo last year, 
great, you nailed it. 

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You sold it first year as a 
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Next year, go get Harry Styles. 
Pay him what you need to, 

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because if you want to continue 
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on the hype that you generated 
in your year one as a major, go 

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get Harry Styles. 
Go and get the celebrity. 

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Pay him what he needs, get him 
out here, make it a thing. 

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I don't know if Harry wants to 
be a feature like that, given 

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that he ran this under someone 
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Under someone else's name with a
bandana on and sonny's. 

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But if you. 
Make a feature of it. 

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That is another way to continue 
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of Sydney as a major marathon. 
The fake name that he ran under 

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Ted Sarandos. 
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What's that mean? 
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Sarandos, so he's obviously had 
a bit of fun there. 

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I don't know if there's a 
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I just I the first thing I did. 
Let's get back to proper 

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running. 
Yeah, let's get back to running.

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Yeah, well, that was a. 
Serious running that wasn't 

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giving no, no danger. 
A river. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
I'm just, I typed in who coaches

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him because he ran pretty much. 
He ran a 129 and then 1:30. 

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So yeah, yeah, on the money, 
obviously training properly and 

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doing all that. 
So I can't find who, just like 

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with a quick Google, can't find 
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But from 2018 to 2021, which 
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while for this. 
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scene for a while, but former 
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Executive Peak Performance 
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513. 
What does that work to at a per 

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K base? 
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down here. 513 is moving. 
It's good. 

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This the the story I've found 
about you've. 

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Asked me something. 
All I'm saying is he's got a 

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really good speed base. 
The the story I found about 

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Harry in the run says that 
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David Tebow or David Thibow, 
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that's. 
What I just said. 

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If he didn't say his name, you 
got to give him his name. 

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You couldn't say his name. 
That's why he didn't say. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Look, he's clearly and that is 

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that's not irrelevant of a 
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That's serious. 
Running a 25913 is serious 

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running. 
Harry. 

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Big shout out. 
Welcome to the running 

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community. 
Looks like he's running in alpha

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flies for the the shoe nerds out
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mine ran. 
Oh, OK, here's the story for 

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you. 
Yep. 

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Friend of mine Nick, shout out 
Nick Spanner, part of the 

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Runners in the Dark crew in 
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And I'm going to show you a 
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Did he go for the time? 
Was that the reason he went to 

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Berlin to get the fast? 
I don't know. 

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I don't know if he ran there 
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but he ran there, obviously got 
into Berlin and he's run at 

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2:58. 
So I don't believe that's Nick's

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fastest ever marathon. 
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How's this? 
So everybody knows the 

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photographer's on course. 
You go, you finish your race, 

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and then at the end you get an 
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Here's all the photos of you 
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Now, there was some jokes made 
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And when we saw the Harry Tom, 
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course? 
Nick said no, I'd heard he was 

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running. 
I kept an eye for him. 

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I didn't see him. 
And then Nick's gone and looked 

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through the photos with his bib 
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And he's running with him. 
Have a look at the photo that 

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Nick has from the day. 
That's Nick out in front in the 

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AG one. 
Yeah, I can see him. 

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And then where am I? 
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head down is Harry Styles. 
So there's Nick's got this great

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photo of him probably 5 metres 
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the Berlin Marathon. 
And as I said to Nick, I'm like,

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mate, if you haven't bought that
photo, I'll buy it for you 

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because that is a photo as a 
runner that you should be 

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putting up in your pool room. 
You've given this guy some props

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this morning. 
I love you but. 

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It's a great running story. 
Having this this type of like 

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all people. 
Yes, involved now from Harry. 

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We'll move on. 
It's time to talk finance. 

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We've never talked finance on 
this show before, but we've got 

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2 finance stories, OK, both 
running related. 

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Yes, I I know. 
So I just saw the second note. 

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Firstly, let's let's let's go 
with the first one. 

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We've been quoted in AFR. 
Yes, he's failing financial 

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review. 
For those of you playing along 

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at home in the Beginning podcast
officially quoted in a recent 

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article. 
Yep. 

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Courtney, I can. 
About running influences. 

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About running influences, the 
amount of cash they're making. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
And they took a quote from us, 

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from you in fact, saying that 
you'd like to see some of that 

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money. 
So they took quotes from our AG 

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one live they. 
Didn't attribute that quote, 

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which I wasn't happy about. 
Yeah, right. 

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They only attributed the quote 
from you in the beginning 

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podcast Courtney Atkinson saying
that he would like to see more 

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money going to they. 
Didn't quote. 

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They didn't quote Andy. 
And then when they used a quote 

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from Andy Buchanan, Australian 
marathon record holder, they 

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didn't cite that. 
That was from our AG One 

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podcast. 
Go and get that journalist. 

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No, the the irony of it was I 
had this article sent to me 

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through a few different people. 
Yeah, None of them had read the 

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art. 
This is now. 

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This is media for you. 
Yeah. 

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And, and journals or, or 
whatever. 

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Yeah. 
No one had actually read it. 

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They didn't send it because we 
were in it. 

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Oh. 
Really. 

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No, so I actually they just saw 
the headline brother in So they 

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all sent me this, people who 
would read. 

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The Australian Review. 
Yeah, the FIN review send it to 

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me, but they, they didn't 
mention we're in it, they didn't

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realise. 
So when I said hey, we're quoted

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in it, 'cause I actually I was, 
I read through the whole thing. 

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Yeah, no idea they did, you 
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irony is I'm heading down to the
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As mentioned in that article 

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Running. 
The influences, yeah, Give them 

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a shout it. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Louis Phillips. 
We'd have to know. 

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I mean, Louis. 
I will. 

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So I'll get some more 
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article, how it became. 
I would love to have a 

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conversation with Louis about 
running. 

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Well, I think he's really 
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I think he's a really. 
Because I didn't realise he'd 

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been on Big Brother. 
I didn't realise that either. 

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Yeah, he was on Big Brother. 
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So he generated an audience off 
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Converted, so that is. 
So there's always a story behind

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the story. 
Yeah, so true, isn't it? 

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So it's not like it's not like 
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then suddenly bang, bang, bang, 
bang, bang. 

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No, there's a story that got you
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like pre or post Big Brother and
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Maybe he is. 
Maybe he discounts any Big 

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Brother influence on his 
audience size. 

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I don't know, but I'm 99% sure 
he was on Big Brother. 

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Well, that's another question. 
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I I love what Louis does for 
running. 

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I think it's great. 
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When he's on the coast one day, 
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person, it's way better. 
Yes, Louis. 

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Well, next time you're on the 
coast. 

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Oh, you're welcome. 
I'll see you next week 'cause I 

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wanna, I wanna ask you this, but
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he came out to Uluru last year. 
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When we're out there running. 
Is Danny Byron with you earlier?

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times we catch up a a fair bit. 
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anyone. 
We'll put the link in if anyone 

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wants to have a look. 
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article makes it out like 
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really like tension. 
There's not. 

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there's not all runners and and 
the other thing Andy's quoted in

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that story and for anybody that 
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in full, Andy's not critical of 
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He his comment about the quote 
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that Andy doesn't think people 
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who's been running for 12 months
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that's got. 
Nothing to do. 

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But he also said he the elites, 
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off what the, you know, run 
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actually do better in showing 
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Big shout out to Andy as well 
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fashion advice from Andy at the 
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Remember what fashion advice he 
he had this T-shirt that he was 

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wearing and it's an ASICS sports
style T shirt and I asked him 

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because I saw it when he was up 
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It looks it was cool. 
It was very cool. 

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Anyway, next finance story. 
Yep. 

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Can you believe it? 
When it rains finance, it pours 

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finance. 
I'm going to take a victory lap 

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on this. 
I have you. 

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Call it. 
Have I, well, have I not been 

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banging on about the fact that 
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acquisition, this is, this is 
massive for running. 

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This is going to become a 
behemoth. 

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We banged on about it. 
I kid you not. 

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I was texting somebody a running
related thing. 

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There's potentially some things 
we might get to do down the 

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track. 
And I, and this person has just 

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entered the running world from 
a, an agency perspective. 

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And I was just sending him a bit
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a bit of the lay of the land 
running wise, his brands, his 

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Insta accounts. 
Here's some things you might 

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that might help you. 
And I said in this email, mate, 

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Strava and Runner, this is the 
sleeping giant of the running 

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world. 
Keep an eye on it. 

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If it ever becomes publicly 
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making a move to an IPO, to an 
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becoming a publicly listed 
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So, so many things. 
Off the back of that you can. 

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You can, I suppose, predict 
it's. 

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So they're basically the, the, 
the lay of the land is right 

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now, they are sounding out funds
or organisations in the US to, 

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to, to handle this IPO for them,
which is where they would go 

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public and allow people to buy 
shares in it. 

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It was last valued in May by a, 
a capital mob at 2.2 billion, 

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Jesus, $2.2 billion. 
So they've recently appointed a 

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chief financial officer, which 
is what will often happen before

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an IPO goes forward. 
So they've now got someone in 

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the big chair financially and 
now we wait to see what happens 

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Now. 
Like I'm, I'm really excited 

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about what this means. 
I saw 2 two things on that one 

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was the dude the dude who 
created runner. 

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I saw a believe what you see on 
social media, I suppose, but he 

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was talking about how he 
literally to get to Strava like 

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that was their goal and to get 
to Strava and to get even just 

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an intro. 
He was just continually emailing

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random. 
He was trying to get the CEO 

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yeah of Strava. 
So he just kept trying different

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emails really until one clicked.
That's clever. 

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It's him talking in the thing. 
Don't know how much truth it is 

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to it. 
The second thing is we know. 

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Yeah, like that's business, 
right? 

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Yeah, They're building it up to 
create something. 

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What has happened every time a 
social media account has had to 

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monetize 'cause once you go 
public, you're then accountable 

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to shareholders. 
And what's the one thing 

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shareholders need? 
Profit, revenue, profit. 

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Yeah, it actually it it's it 
becomes not so much about the 

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product is returning. 
And what is every single app 

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social media style app done to 
create profit? 

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Ads. 
Ads. 

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Not a bad thing. 
Advertising is not a bad thing. 

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It can ruin things and it has 
ruined things, but it's not a 

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bad thing. 
I, for one, we talk about it on,

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you know, hey, if there are any 
advertisers that want to come on

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board, we'll take them. 
I mean, just the other week you,

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you ran me through that list of 
running brands that I hadn't 

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heard of. 
And I'll, and I'll be honest, 

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when you did that, that was 
probably about a month or two 

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ago, you ran me through the 
these list of Europe of running 

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brands and I hadn't heard of 
most of them. 

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When I went down to Sydney, I 
got mocks and people like were 

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like what? 
You've been out of Sydney for 

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too long. 
The fact you haven't heard of 

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all these brands. 
But I think with the running 

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space, I'd love it if I was had 
the ability to be tailored some 

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suggestive advertising because I
think running's because I love 

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running. 
I'm passionate about it and I 

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think I have the ability to 
discern what would be of value 

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to me. 
Can Strava provide that if they 

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start bombarding the platform 
with ads? 

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I don't know, but I'd certainly 
be open to the idea. 

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And I'll and put it this way, 
how much money we got in the 

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joint account, Courtney? 
How much money is there in the 

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in the In the Beginning podcast?
Account I'm not going to 

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mention. 
We're buying Strava, we're 

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buying Strava shares. 
Hey, what did you say about 

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Sydney? 
When I was down there, I got 

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mocked by people for not knowing
about certain running brands. 

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Yeah, let's, let's talk a little
bit about Sydney. 

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Brisbane. 
Not so. 

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Emergency Department. 
How can I help you? 

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I love it here. 
Let's see. 

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Symptoms twitching, delusion. 
I love the sweat. 

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Always sweat, I love this 
humidity all of the time. 

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OK, just relax. 
You've got movers remorse. 

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Did you move from Melbourne to 
escape? 

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5:00 AM. 
Everyone's up running, walking, 

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swimming and it's only winter. 
I hear the sun comes up earlier 

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in summer. 
We've got another one. 

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You should have read the 
handbook before migrating. 

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OK well it clearly states that 
Brisbane is under the rule of 

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the Aztec sun God. 
Turn a tear whereby you must 

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self sacrifice each morning at 
sunrise through exercise to keep

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the sunshining here. 
I'll write this down for you. 

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What happens if I don't? 
The whole place floods here, 

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what do I do? 
You exercise at sunrise like the

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rest of us, or you go back down 
South next? 

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Who was that? 
That was the IOC. 

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It's sorry, some context. 
Yeah, Jimmy, Jimmy Rees, he was 

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being the Brisbane not so 
emergency department call 

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centre. 
Yeah, there it's I love Jimmy 

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Ree's people. 
Some people have their parents 

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who've got younger kids might 
remember him from Hoot and 

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Giggle. 
Yes, he was Jimmy Hoot on that. 

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On the on the money though, 
around. 

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The that's so spot on. 
The idea that you move up here 

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and you go, oh, we love the 
sunshine and then it gets into 

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the summer months. 
I remember the first year I was 

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up here and I only thought about
this after I saw this clip. 

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I have acclimatised. 
I don't sweat nearly as much as 

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I used to in the humidity here. 
I'm I've I've adjusted I I can. 

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See how it happens. 
I mean, you've just spent 2 or 

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10 days in bloody Indonesia. 
I didn't adjust. 

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Like, that's a nut. 
That's the next level, right? 

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And then another level. 
Yeah. 

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So you, like, it was 27, I think
the day before we left here. 

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Yeah. 
Get there. 

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Try and have a jog mate. 
Did you jog at all? 

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I spent a lot of time on 
treadmills. 

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Yeah, right. 
Some really nice treadmills. 

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I was in the the hotel fitness 
centres with views and 

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everything else. 
But I was on holiday so like I 

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was sleeping in family time and 
all that. 

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So I got when the day got to 
when I needed to run. 

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It was just sometimes. 
Hot, hot. 

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I just jumped in. 
I'm facing that a little bit at 

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the moment because we've talked 
about this before, but I'm on 

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pro hours because of the radio 
show. 

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But today, for example, it's 
almost it's, you know, the Today

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the forecast is tops of 26. 
I think it's starting to get 

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really warm in the, you know, 
around midday for me running at 

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that is. 
You know, tough of the tan 

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you're gonna get. 
Shut it off, shut it off. 

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Shut it off, shut it off. 
Hey now, we've talked about your

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terrible memory a bit on this 
and the Courtney Atkinson 

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Museum. 
When you pass on and we open it 

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up will be it might be empty in 
some stretches just because you 

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can't remember anything that 
went on. 

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But I think we brought this up 
on a previous episode and I 

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wanted to share this audio 
because the one end of the 

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spectrum from a sports memory 
perspective, we have Courtney 

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Atkinson. 
Which is 0. 

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This is from one from a scale of
1 to 10. 

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From a scale of 1 to 10, let's 
put you into one. 

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You do remember some things. 
And if anybody missed the Noosa 

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series episode that dropped 
earlier in the week, Courtney 

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did remember something. 
Somethings about the Noosa 

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trash. 
Do you know what? 

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For those who have who haven't 
tuned in yet to the Noosa 

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episodes, the next thing when we
get Dan Atkins, Matt Houses 

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coach back in, I'm going to give
him a week of my training diary 

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from when I had one move so 
previously and then see what he 

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thinks of it. 
Well, one, see what he thinks of

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it, but two actually then go 
like I want to know what is 

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different now? 
Mileage, What would he change? 

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Like he, he's not going to give 
us every secret in the book, but

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he's pretty open, right? 
Yeah, no, Dan's been amazing and

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and so I love that exercise. 
So this is a this is a winner 

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00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,240
from 2007, 2000. 
What did you join 2? 

452
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,880
1007 later than. 
That what did you join? 

453
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,600
Didn't you win 2000 and. 
Seven, you interviewed me. 

454
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,480
I've forgotten already. 
No, I was all around 2:10. 

455
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,880
I think so. 2000 and so a 
winners training diary from 2010

456
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,840
versus what a potential winners 
diary of 2025 looks like. 

457
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,400
Yeah, that's really cool. 
Looks. 

458
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,720
So that's going to start. 
The next episode with Dan, 

459
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,000
that's how we'll start. 
All right, there you go again. 

460
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,840
If you're already in the NUSA 
Tri series, jump into it a lot 

461
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,240
of fun. 
So at one end, at the at a one 

462
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,080
on the sports memory spectrum, 
we have Courtney Atkinson. 

463
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,400
I'm putting this bloke on a 10. 
This is the pointy end of the 

464
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,160
sports memory spectrum. 
Sean McVay, if you don't know 

465
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,720
who he is, he's the head coach 
of the LA Rams in the NFL. 

466
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:53,040
And this is him being basically 
asked about plays he's called in

467
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,760
games from years gone by. 
You're unbelievable. 

468
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:02,240
Now we are going to go to this 
is Sean Mcveigh's time in 

469
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,480
Washington. 
So we're bringing it back to 

470
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:10,800
2015 Week 7 bucks at Skins 
second and seven on the Tampa 

471
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,120
Bay, 2458 seconds left in the 
fourth quarter. 

472
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,200
Jamieson Crowder wheel route 
down the right sideline. 

473
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,800
Jamieson Crowder wheel route 
down the right sideline S the 

474
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,440
first down and then how did that
drive end? 

475
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,400
Jordan Reed touchdown in a four 
by one individual ISO slant. 

476
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,760
And what meme was that game? 
You like that? 

477
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:31,920
He's real. 
Good. 

478
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,040
Check out the brain on Sean. 
Amazing. 

479
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,000
So he did that a few times. 
I've just cut it down. 

480
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:43,120
So by comparison, try and 
remember, if you're listening to

481
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:48,080
this, try and remember what you 
had for lunch two weeks ago. 

482
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,320
On any given day, Sean McVay is 
remembering a play that he 

483
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:59,040
called in the fourth quarter of 
a game from maybe 8-9 years ago 

484
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,800
when he wasn't even the head 
coach. 

485
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,680
He was the offensive coordinator
of that team and he can remember

486
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,280
the play, he can remember the 
result of the play, and he can 

487
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,640
remember the meme that the 
resulted from that game. 

488
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,760
Yeah, so that one, I mean, 
obviously there was a meme. 

489
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,320
So it was the play was a big 
play. 

490
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,040
There's 2 plays in there, but he
had prior to that, in that same 

491
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,600
kind of interview, done that 
three times or two times up to 

492
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,680
it. 
So he did 3 for three. 

493
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,400
Different plays. 
LeBron James can do that a bit 

494
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,400
too. 
LeBron James can remember plays 

495
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,360
from like, remember games from 
his career and you know. 

496
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,920
So do you reckon endurance 
sports versus football or like 

497
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,320
football, basketball, team 
sports like that you need a 

498
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,440
different memory? 
Maybe, maybe it's maybe it's got

499
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,120
to do. 
Yeah. 

500
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:46,080
In endurance sports, you need 
the ability to forget. 

501
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,680
You need to turn the memory off.
That's the key, Yeah, actually. 

502
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,240
Don't want to be? 
Thinking in endurance sports, 

503
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,280
you want to forget. 
In those sports you want to 

504
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,960
remember. 
Yeah, there we go. 

505
00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,920
Well, you know, it was 
brilliant. 

506
00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:02,320
And when you sent me that one, I
thought, holy hell, that just 

507
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:08,240
sums me up in a because I like 
really, what do I remember? 

508
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,800
So this is what I've worked out.
I remember when something, you 

509
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,000
know, is more unique, something 
out of the ordinary happens. 

510
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,520
That's got nothing to do with 
the ordinary of what would have 

511
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,680
been in a race. 
So like, I can remember maybe 

512
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,280
like a crash. 
I said, oh, when I lost my 

513
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,280
sunglasses on a roundabout, 
right? 

514
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,720
Like I had plenty of crashes. 
But I remember that one because 

515
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,680
of that reason. 
Just the results just all blend,

516
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,040
all blend. 
Hey, I'm up in Seoul now. 

517
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,760
This is a little, this is a bit 
of a heated debate 8 because 

518
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,200
we've talked about this, I think
we've seen it in LA over in 

519
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,280
America. 
We we obviously have seen it in 

520
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,320
Sydney, you know, Gold Coast, 
pretty big shirtless running 

521
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,200
population. 
I was just encouraging you to go

522
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,960
out shirtless to get a bit of a 
tan, which probably isn't 

523
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,840
Sunsafe should mention. 
Slips up, yeah, slips up. 

524
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,960
But ever in Korea, they're 
around some of the biggest 

525
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,760
parks. 
Running's becoming such a big 

526
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:10,600
boom that the council, I assume,
or the the city are banning and 

527
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,920
putting up guidelines around 
prohibiting 1 shirtless running 

528
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,800
2 clapping and cheering for 
other runners, which we've 

529
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,280
mentioned on the Gold Coast here
running in large groups and 

530
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,800
shouting at pedestrians make. 
Way, Yeah. 

531
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,680
What do you reckon this park so 
runs? 

532
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,120
They've used what? 
Who did the We'll ask Matt about

533
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:39,080
this when we get Matt. 
Hauser and they the Queensland, 

534
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,600
the road and transport, yeah, 
that is. 

535
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,480
Queensland Road and Chapel 
because they're saying here you 

536
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,520
should be running safely in two 
lines because the park's for 

537
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,240
everyone. 
So Australia is, is guilty of 

538
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,120
being a bit of a nanny state on 
a lot of stuff, right? 

539
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:54,800
Our occupation like and like 
health and safety really 

540
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,880
important. 
I'm not disputing that. 

541
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,560
I also think there are certain 
rules that we shouldn't have to 

542
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,960
put in place because common 
sense should just prevail. 

543
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:10,400
I would hate to see rules 
brought in for running around. 

544
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,600
No, no, no. 
But, but, and, and I don't like 

545
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,920
this because because it tells me
a couple of things. 

546
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:23,080
It tells me that the government 
is trying to dictate the way 

547
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,240
people exercise, which I don't 
like. 

548
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,880
But it also tells me that the 
runners themselves have been 

549
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,480
carrying on like twits. 
Like if the fact that they've 

550
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,720
brought in these rules means 
that the runners have been 

551
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,760
behaving in such a way that 
people are complaining now, it's

552
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:43,440
not hard to run and not get in 
people's way and not make like. 

553
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:48,320
So here's here's a question for 
you What do you call or say to 

554
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,800
someone if you're running around
Burley Hill or through flays? 

555
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,080
You like your new flays? 
Look. 

556
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,920
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
The path's only wide enough for 

557
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,880
two people. 
You've got 2 walkers in front of

558
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,960
you. 
What's your? 

559
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,760
Call so OK, I love this. 
These runners know this. 

560
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,600
I love this. 
So they they they said shouting 

561
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,960
make way no who The Who says? 
Yeah, I know. 

562
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,880
I mean, aside from a royal being
announced into a room. 

563
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,040
So what I do, because I don't 
like interrupting people, what I

564
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,440
will do if I'm coming up from 
behind them or even if they're 

565
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,520
approaching me from the opposite
way, I deliberately start 

566
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,520
scuffing my feet. 
Yep, to make noise. 

567
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,200
I. 
Think that's a good? 

568
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,160
Move so I scuff my feet to make 
noise, allowing them to hear it 

569
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,040
without me being intrusive. 
Giving them a chance, Giving 

570
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,160
them a chance. 
Give them a chance. 

571
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,040
I give them first right of give 
way right by scuffing my feet so

572
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,800
that they can hear me. 
OK, so they don't give way. 

573
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,000
And if they don't give way still
too abreast that's I'm coming 

574
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,560
from behind or they're coming 
from front, I will slow. 

575
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,000
I don't hold my pace. 
I slow and say sorry guys. 

576
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,000
Very much in that. 
Very sorry guys. 

577
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,680
You're a sorry guys. 
Yeah, type guy. 

578
00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,960
Yep. 
I say sorry guys. 

579
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,960
And then when they move I said 
thank you with a wave. 

580
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,640
Curtis, you are about the back. 
And then roll on. 

581
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,000
It's nice. 
And I'll get very, I'll get very

582
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,640
skinny. 
I'll turn side on like I'm 

583
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,280
trying to go through a, you 
know. 

584
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
A little maze. 

585
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,520
Yeah. 
Get through one of the, what are

586
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,720
you, burly gates? 
Yeah, Well, see, I'm just trying

587
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,040
to think. 
I do the scuffle. 

588
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,720
I definitely, yeah, I, I, I try 
and mate, especially in the 

589
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,760
trails, but again, on the road 
as well. 

590
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,040
But there's a bad habit because 
when you've grown up track 

591
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:35,920
running in athletics, you call 
track, you just say the word 

592
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,960
track. 
So like you're on a running, OK,

593
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,840
you've done, you're on the 
track, you're doing a session, 

594
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,960
you've just finished a hard 400 
and you're killed. 

595
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,360
You know, you've got a group of 
three or four. 

596
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,320
If you run that 400, you're 
keeled over. 

597
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,440
Yeah, taking in big breaths. 
And then the 100 metre sprinters

598
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,480
are coming down. 
Yeah, the straight track. 

599
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,400
Oh, that's what people shout at 
you? 

600
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,120
Yeah, like. 4 You know, like 
you're playing golf. 

601
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,480
Why the hell yell out for? 
I did not know this was a thing 

602
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,600
so. 
You're running track, so if 

603
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,640
you're running. 
So when I'm a lot of the groups 

604
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:13,040
I'm running with the habit of 
calling track, they do that 

605
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,560
running around Burley Headland, 
right? 

606
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,080
And which and which is when? 
Worse than Mike way when? 

607
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,480
You when you talk about common 
sense. 

608
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,160
It's like track that means 
nothing. 

609
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,000
You'd look at them and go, what 
are you if you're an idiot? 

610
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,200
If I was walking on Burley Hill 
or any and someone yelled track,

611
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,120
I would, I would be so confused.
I'd be like what? 

612
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,280
What do you want me to do? 
Like where track means nothing? 

613
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,440
No, it's a good lesson actually.
If you hear anybody shout track,

614
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,440
they mean get out the way. 
If you're a person who's 

615
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,000
shouting track, stop. 
Stop. 

616
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,160
Unless you're on anything else, 
unless you're on the track. 

617
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,120
Unless you're on the track. 
Yeah, yeah, you've just brought 

618
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,400
up a really. 
Interesting thing if you listen,

619
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,560
what do you call? 
Let us know. 

620
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,720
I'm do I call out to get to get 
around? 

621
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,640
Do you know what? 
You know what? 

622
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,040
I'm looking. 
I'm trying to figure out what 

623
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,000
the origin of why Golfer Shout 4
is. 

624
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,920
Yeah, because. 
It's the same thing, right? 

625
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,560
And then I mean, because in 
cricket 6, you know what's 

626
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,920
happening, you're going to get 
6. 

627
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,040
The term four, Yeah. 
What is it as a warning may have

628
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,840
roots in old Scottish where it 
meant look out ahead or was 

629
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,800
associated with the phrase clear
the way. 

630
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,640
There you go. 
So it might be a Scottish word 

631
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,640
because that's where golf 
started. 

632
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,080
Track. 
Don't shout track. 

633
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,880
Don't. 
It's again, we we've talked a 

634
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,280
little bit about this on the 
Gold Coast because of what 

635
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,080
happened along Hedges Ave with 
the runner and the bike cyclist 

636
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,840
and all the rest of that. 
Well, he just called Charge. 

637
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,000
Yeah, we didn't call anything. 
He was just a Dick about it. 

638
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,800
If you're running, it is 
beholden on you to make 

639
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,640
adjustments. 
Now if you find yourselves on a 

640
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,800
tight track, make as many 
adjustments as you can or find 

641
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,200
somewhere else to run like 
there's there's. 

642
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,720
You're not devoid of places to 
run If you insist on running in 

643
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,800
high population high density 
areas, it is. 

644
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,800
I think the responsibility lies 
with you to make adjustments. 

645
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,040
It's not and and if we get to a 
point where Burleigh Hill or 

646
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,400
Bondi, because I know there's a 
running group in Bondi that's 

647
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,560
causing all sorts of issues, if 
we get to a point where these 

648
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,160
local councils are putting up 
signs because of the runners, we

649
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,200
only have ourselves to blame. 
Yep, I'm still trying to think 

650
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,280
what else? 
Do you call? 

651
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,080
I'm stumped as to what I would 
call because all I've got in my 

652
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,160
mind is. 
Track the cycling type call. 

653
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,880
Would it be like a runner back 
sort of thing? 

654
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,920
Because if you are on the bike 
the the cycle calls you her car 

655
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,880
back. 
To someone runner back. 

656
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,920
Coming through. 
What about this one? 

657
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,240
If you if you're running in a 
group and you're not calling out

658
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,400
and someone's someone's walking 
towards you and you're going to 

659
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,360
warn the people behind you and 
you call Walker. 

660
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,200
Yep. 
Yeah, great. 

661
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,360
So where for example, Azi 
Gordon's group at the Spit? 

662
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,920
But is that putting the Walker 
down? 

663
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,800
Like, hey, we're runners. 
No, Walker, I think there's a 

664
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,720
difference. 
I think there's different calls.

665
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,080
If you're communicating to your 
running group as opposed to 

666
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,080
communicating to the people in 
front of you, really you 

667
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,920
shouldn't have to communicate. 
If people are coming towards 

668
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,880
you, as in you shouldn't have to
be telling them, hey, I'm coming

669
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,360
through. 
They should be looking where 

670
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,400
they're going. 
I think if you're approaching 

671
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,480
someone from behind, you should 
be calling and giving them a 

672
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,400
heads up that you're coming 
through. 

673
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,120
But if, if, if people, if you're
at the front of your running 

674
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,640
crew and there's something 
coming towards you. 

675
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,960
Eddie Gordon's example in the up
at the spit on the trailer, bike

676
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,200
up, runner up, walkers up and 
the people at the front call 

677
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,920
that for the people at the back.
So everybody knows to move to 

678
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,200
the left hand side and running, 
running jargon. 

679
00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:00,040
It's running up, runner up, bike
up, whatever, up, unicycle up. 

680
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,920
Why add the up? 
Meaning it's coming ahead. 

681
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,320
Oh, because. 
And then conversely, the runners

682
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,480
at the back when a bike is 
coming through, we'll call that.

683
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,400
Runner back. 
Bike back, runner back, whatever

684
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,679
it is. 
OK, Yeah, it's. 

685
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,639
Cool. 
Let us know anyone. 

686
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,920
Yeah, if you, if you guys have 
actually, yeah, if you have a 

687
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,040
specific etiquette within your 
running group or where you run 

688
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,520
to let people know because I 
reckon the scuff is universal. 

689
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,040
Everybody employs the scuff so 
they don't have to shout out. 

690
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,840
Oh yeah, in the in the truck. 
So you get real heavy feet. 

691
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:36,480
In the on bitumen or concrete, 
it's it's for my own like I want

692
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,000
to get past like quicker yes in 
the trail I'm doing it for a 

693
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,880
completely different reason. 
I don't want to No, no, I don't 

694
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,040
want to scare the shit out of 
someone. 

695
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,320
Oh. 
'Cause you. 

696
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:48,480
Oh. 
Yeah, you scare like you. 

697
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,719
Oh, you've I've had some 
beauties. 

698
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,320
Just where? 
I try to do everything I can, 

699
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,440
but, you know, especially when 
there's like a little bit of a 

700
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,720
group, you know, maybe two or 
three people travelling at a bit

701
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:03,360
slower speed, talking together 
and you're still trying to scuff

702
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,200
and that nothing. 
Or if they've got. 

703
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,480
Headphones in headphones there's
nothing you can do and then like

704
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,680
suddenly you're there. 
It's happened to me too. 

705
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,520
Vice versa. 
Like I've had my headphones on a

706
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,880
bot and a rider. 
Yep, right. 

707
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,560
Up on me, but that's on you, 
that's on me. 

708
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,960
If you've got headphones in and 
you get scared by somebody 

709
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,600
because you can't hear them, 
that's on you. 100% I like 

710
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,120
that's a good running chat. 100%
that's I like that one. 

711
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,960
OK, this this one's from Lucas. 
Now I actually have no idea what

712
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,960
this is, but I'm going to play 
it. 

713
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,760
Hi guys, love the potty. 
I have finally caught up on all 

714
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,720
the episodes since I started 
listening. 

715
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,240
Talking about race events, I 
just ran the City to Bay on the 

716
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:48,040
weekend and it probably wasn't 
the best run event considering 

717
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,640
how big it is in Adelaide. 
The finish zone was in a 

718
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,080
different spot because of Rd 
works and stuff but my main 

719
00:35:55,080 --> 00:36:00,280
gripe with it was no net time. 
Basically the. 

720
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,400
Time that was published on the 
website was the time from when 

721
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,240
the gun went off to when you 
crossed the finish line, which 

722
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:10,320
meant some people were missing 
out on pay base because it took 

723
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,840
them 5-6 minutes to get across 
the finish line. 

724
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,200
Just wondering what you boys 
think about that. 

725
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,200
No net times at a massive 
running event with probably 

726
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,000
10,000 people. 
That's really interesting. 

727
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,440
Full disclosure, and you won't 
know this. 

728
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,160
That's my cousin. 
How you doing, Lucas? 

729
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,040
That is, yeah, that's my cousin 
who is a fan of the pod. 

730
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,480
I'm Did you pay him to? 
No. 

731
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,920
I didn't. 
I didn't. 

732
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,840
I hadn't even seen that did. 
You take that out of our Kitty. 

733
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,840
So we're getting messages. 
Yeah, we're down. 

734
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,520
No, I, I hadn't actually seen 
the the comment. 

735
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:49,320
I'm just jumped on city debate 
and I'm having a look and he's 

736
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,760
right. 
There's only the start. 

737
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,200
So there's not an adjusted. 
Time, there's no adjusted time 

738
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,640
and I don't know whether you got
one of those individually, but 

739
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,520
like Izzy, Bat Doyle ran this, 
she would have been off the 

740
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,680
front. 
So it probably doesn't matter 

741
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,040
for Izzy, but I'm looking 
through and well. 

742
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,960
It makes sense if you've got 
10,000 people there. 

743
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,360
Like going off Gold Coast stats,
what do they say? 

744
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,880
We get A? 
They get 1000 on memory A. 1000 

745
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,840
people over the line a minute. 
A minute, you could be 10 

746
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,680
minutes. 
Yeah, be both here. 

747
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,840
You better. 
You gotta do better there. 

748
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,160
It's a big run that surprises me
because that's the city of the 

749
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,720
Bay is where I broke 90 for the 
half a couple of years ago. 

750
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:29,320
And I feel like I had a. 
You might have had You might 

751
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,440
have been quicker than you 
thought. 

752
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Oh, maybe. 
Or did you did? 

753
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,240
You did you even better. 
You just straw the time. 

754
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,840
No, no, no. 
I got an. 

755
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,680
I got the official time. 
That's really interesting. 

756
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,760
OK. 
Yeah, baby. 

757
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,560
Come on. 
See you, babe. 

758
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,520
You're a big race. 
You gotta do better. 

759
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,960
Than icon bullshit on that one 
Lucas. 

760
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,480
That's a definitely. 
Hey, let's can we move on to 

761
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:57,120
injuries so people might 
remember during our Gold Coast 

762
00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:01,080
in the beginning runs of the 
Gold Coast Marathon series, we 

763
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,040
had a special episode where we 
sat down with a couple of 

764
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,880
physios from Southern Cross 
University. 

765
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:13,920
Yes, I forget the woman's name, 
but Gabe was one of the physios 

766
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,160
who jumped in with us. 
Mel. 

767
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,360
Mel, thank you. 
We had Gabe and Mel who were 

768
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,560
great and we talked a lot about 
injury prevention, recovery, all

769
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,320
that sort of stuff. 
Now Gabe has reached out 

770
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,160
because. 
Well, one of our questions too 

771
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,520
was how can people get involved 
in the studies to help you 

772
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,800
figure out for us how to improve
our calves and. 

773
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,880
Achilles, that's right. 
That's right. 

774
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,520
Now Gabe has reached out because
he's doing a study and he wanted

775
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,640
to put it out there. 
If anybody out there is is 

776
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,240
experiencing any of this stuff, 
we can provide the link, he 

777
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:51,520
said. 
Just in case you forgot, allied 

778
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,480
health professionals, strength 
and conditioning coaches and 

779
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,440
running coaches working with 
athletes with Achilles 

780
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,400
tendinopathy participate and 
represent your profession and 

781
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,920
country in this global survey. 
So if there's anybody out there 

782
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,880
that. 
You'll be a meta meta meta data 

783
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:06,800
study. 
Yeah. 

784
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,280
And so if there's anybody out 
there that is currently 

785
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,600
experiencing some Achilles 
stuff, give us, give us all a 

786
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,360
hand here. 
We'll put a link, we'll put the 

787
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,040
link down and you can sign up 
and, and be a part of a a study 

788
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,280
and make you feel, it'll make 
you feel like a real runner if 

789
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,440
you're participating in a 
medical study on possible 

790
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,520
injuries. 
Yeah, yeah. 

791
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:30,040
Yeah, makes everyone feel good. 
Hey look that my school's 

792
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,160
comment from when I was away and
we were online together. 

793
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,360
That's why not if you missed. 
Has it been all positive? 

794
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,920
I haven't really been across. 
The most part, I think it has 

795
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,280
the if if you if you from to 
take you back to the last 

796
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,360
episode, you we were talking 
about the idea of running in 

797
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,800
schools and you were we joked 
about the idea of Courtney 

798
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,720
bringing in the hard line 
running coaching as in start 

799
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:00,000
running, get running, don't. 
Compulsory running, Compulsory 

800
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,120
running, Compulsory exercise. 
Compulsory exercise. 

801
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,160
They're not just. 
Running and, and, and not 

802
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,920
allowing kids an easy out from 
running, basically, not because 

803
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,200
not to bully, but because it's 
good for them, right? 

804
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,480
It's like encouraging your kids 
to eat their veggies. 

805
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:16,080
It's good for them. 
You do it because it's the right

806
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,640
thing for them to do. 
Being a bit harder, bit of a 

807
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,240
harder taskmaster with kids at 
schools might be what they need.

808
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,440
We were joking about this. 
This just wasn't Courtney 

809
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,680
something, but we've had a lot 
of people reach out about it. 

810
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,280
Just a couple of comments to 
share with you, Courtney Nick 

811
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,800
Stone with regard to the last 
episode with kids at school and 

812
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,600
cross country. 
I think it's more than just 

813
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,640
running kids at school and 
sorry, he said. 

814
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,920
I think it's more than just 
running. 

815
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,240
Kids at school are not learning 
how to be uncomfortable, whether

816
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:48,440
it's through hard exercise such 
as running or being able to be 

817
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,040
bored, brackets without a 
screening, cars and buses, 

818
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,160
etcetera. 
We are letting kids only ever 

819
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,000
feel comfortable so when things 
go wrong they can't handle it. 

820
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,200
I found Park Run has really 
helped my kids tolerance with a 

821
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,680
lot of other things in life. 
Keep up the great work. 

822
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,640
That's from Nick Stone. 
Interesting, interesting. 

823
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,960
But we know Park Run does, you 
know, it's, it's great for 

824
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,880
adults. 
But this is, I wonder why Park 

825
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,000
Run haven't got involved in 
schools. 

826
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,920
I wonder why the Park Run 
organisation with all the good 

827
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,480
they do for health and exercise?
I guess volunteer run. 

828
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,520
You think about the individual 
park runs, they're volunteer 

829
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,760
run. 
Yeah, they are. 

830
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,280
But I mean, just because it's 
such a well oiled organisation 

831
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,480
that has such a good, has such 
goodwill now with that name to 

832
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,720
take that in, to take some type 
of system like that into a 

833
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:43,840
school system that can be 
replicated across the country. 

834
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:46,480
Just wonder why this hasn't been
implemented. 

835
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,080
I don't know. 
I love the idea that Nick has 

836
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,480
taken his kids and made and not 
made them, but got them involved

837
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,680
with Park Run and the fact that 
he's found that it's helped 

838
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,280
their tolerance with a lot of 
other things in their life. 

839
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,720
It could be anything, right? 
It doesn't have to be run like 

840
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:04,880
we. 
Don't have to get stuck on 

841
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,200
running. 
But we, you know, we're running 

842
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,960
podcasts. 
Yeah, but kids, kids run. 

843
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:14,320
I mean schoolyard play, right? 
This idea of learning how to be 

844
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,680
uncomfortable is a really 
interesting notion from Nick 

845
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,400
here. 
And oh, look, I'll take you 

846
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:30,320
inside for a moment because I 
think that, yeah, it's quickly 

847
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,640
jumping ahead to my run week. 
This week I busted out the Nike 

848
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,280
Alpha flies that I haven't used 
because I basically had wore 

849
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,000
them. 
Yeah, wore them. 

850
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,800
I'll jump ahead here. 
I wore them because they're 

851
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,440
still sitting there. 
I've had them for almost a year 

852
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,480
now. 
I've had probably had them for 

853
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,040
over a year now. 
And they were sitting there and 

854
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,800
I joked that I didn't feel 
worthy of wearing them. 

855
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,560
The truth is I didn't really 
have a need to wear them. 

856
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:56,080
I wasn't going out, but I 
thought what like, what are they

857
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,120
doing? 
They're going to drop a new 

858
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,680
model. 
Just just take them for a bloody

859
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,680
run and I put them on and I 
thought to myself, let's go and 

860
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,320
see what you can do for a 10K, 
right? 

861
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,440
OK, you didn't injure yourself. 
No, I didn't injure myself good,

862
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,400
but I got 2 KS into this thing 
and I did a warm up and I was 

863
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,200
probably and I'm like this is 
hard. 

864
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:15,960
Like I was running for the first
two KS of this. 

865
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,720
I was three 55350 bucks and I 
was running like this is hard. 

866
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,880
And then after two KS, I walked 
for two minutes and then I 

867
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,840
turned it into basically an 
interval kind of efforts. 

868
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,720
So I did another two KS and then
and I thought in my head, I'm 

869
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:33,240
thinking this is I'm going, I'm 
going. 

870
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000
I've bailed on this session 
because it got hard. 

871
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,360
Now I didn't plan it. 
There's a whole bunch of 

872
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,080
organisational things. 
It wasn't great training, but I 

873
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,680
quit because it started to get 
really hard. 

874
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,640
Could I have just gripped my 
teeth, bit down on the mouth 

875
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,320
guard and and pushed through and
seen where things end up, even 

876
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,280
if it wasn't the result I was 
looking for? 

877
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,360
And it's that notion of what 
Nick's talking a little bit 

878
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,960
about here, about kids and 
showing them that it's you're 

879
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,120
not always going to win. 
Yep. 

880
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,360
Sometimes it's a goal of the 
session though, because you've 

881
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,760
also got to know when and and 
and I suppose that's what with 

882
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,680
with younger kids. 
Yeah. 

883
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,240
You haven't got the maturity or 
or the experience to understand 

884
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:20,480
and know when it's too hard and 
when it's not. 

885
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,520
You know, you'll learn that over
time and not just running in in 

886
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,160
life, right. 
So I think that's where the kids

887
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,200
side come in. 
You may be actually like, this 

888
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,880
is too hard. 
I've got to be smarter than 

889
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,360
this. 
Yeah, but now you've bloody 

890
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,880
broken the egg open. 
What? 

891
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,360
I mean your first K in them. 
Oh, they're amazing. 

892
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,280
They're amazing. 
And was that first K like? 

893
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,960
That's under 4 minute, K yeah, 
under 40 minute. 

894
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,520
Yeah, yeah, yeah, K pay. 
Yeah, yeah. 

895
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,840
No, they're amazing. 
Were you like, Gee, this is 

896
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:55,080
well, I put these on and. 
I am, yeah. 

897
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:57,840
I remember the last time I felt 
like that running them. 

898
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,040
Do you know what it felt like? 
The Chinese shoe? 

899
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,840
Yeah, right. 
Like in a sense that I loved 

900
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,480
running that lot of response, a 
lot of getting a lot back, 

901
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,960
energy return, bounce. 
And they felt the same thing. 

902
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,560
Yeah. 
And I was. 

903
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,120
And although I felt far more 
self conscious running in the 

904
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,960
Nike Alpha Flies than I did in 
the Chinese shoe, 'cause they 

905
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,400
just. 
They're the bright green ones 

906
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,760
with the big sort of burnt 
orange coloured sole and they 

907
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,240
stand out. 
Sorry you were more self 

908
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:27,800
conscious than. 
Hell before, Yeah, yeah. 

909
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,520
That's interesting. 
Yeah, yeah, because I feel like 

910
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,600
that's a much more recognisable 
shoe and I felt the weight of 

911
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,000
expectation running in those 
shoes, self expectation. 

912
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,920
But great. 
Love them and I'm really excited

913
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,440
to run more and train more in 
them. 

914
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,920
Yep. 
And the other takeaway, and I 

915
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,440
remember Benita talking a little
bit about this, about the fact 

916
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,680
that the Super trainers in those
super shoes, whilst they are 

917
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,880
more taxing potentially, they're
also their ability to recover 

918
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,920
quicker from hard sessions. 
I think if I'd run that session 

919
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:02,400
in another pair of shoes, I'd be
a lot, I'd be more sore today 

920
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,160
than I am. 
So I'm, yeah, great shoe, a lot 

921
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,440
of fun, really exciting to run 
in. 

922
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,720
Keep an eye out for me and my 
bright green Alpha flies and. 

923
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,440
Tough it out. 
Round chickens and I've got to 

924
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,640
harden up. 
Hey, quickly, just going back to

925
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,440
the school thing for a minute 
because we did get another 

926
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,840
message from James Andrew about 
the school stuff and he is a 

927
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,920
high school PE teacher on the 
Gold Coast. 

928
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,480
Courtney, he said, I can't agree
more. 

929
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,720
He said you can come and use 
your hard ass approach on his 

930
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:31,640
sports, excellent students 
whenever you want. 

931
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,160
He's given some information 
about where they train and what 

932
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,720
time. 
So you have got an open 

933
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:40,240
invitation there to go and take 
a hard ass approach with some of

934
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:42,920
the sports excellent students. 
Threw the invite back because we

935
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,200
actually run very similar to 
where we won't mention where it 

936
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,280
is with the kids but on the same
day at the same spot we actually

937
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,080
run half an hour. 
Late. 

938
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,440
There you go. 
So you never know it all could 

939
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:54,760
it all could meet up. 
I love that that. 

940
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,160
'D be fantastic. 
I've got one here. 

941
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,280
I just want to give a while. 
We're on listeners. 

942
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,360
Ben Tennant sent us a video and 
it was windy. 

943
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,120
Now the reason it was windy, so 
I'm not going to play the audio 

944
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,960
was he was out sweeping the 
Ultra X England course. 

945
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:18,120
So I'm tip I'm I'm assuming this
is a fell run in the peak. 

946
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,720
Yeah, it would be in the Peak 
District. 

947
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,280
So what? 
A fell. 

948
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,120
A fell. 
Run. 

949
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,040
What's a fell run? 
Oh geez, I'm going to get called

950
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,760
out big time on this. 
So in pretty much running over 

951
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,800
the the hills in the countryside
in the muddy Weddy regions of 

952
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,360
OK, like I think around Leeds 
some I don't know enough 

953
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,440
information. 
All I know is one day I want to 

954
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,000
go and run and experience it. 
OK, So think of like cross 

955
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,480
country trail running, but it's 
just over the fells, from my 

956
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,040
understanding is over the hills,
right? 

957
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,800
OK. 
He was wearing a pair of 

958
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,960
Solomons. 
They held up well. 

959
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,920
He talked about he was in 
waterproof pants. 

960
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,120
Oh yeah. 
It must have been shitty and 

961
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,640
cold, but he was doing it. 
Cleaning up the course, pulling 

962
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,640
down the flags and everything 
else while listening to yourself

963
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,280
called the Suns versus Brisbane.
Oh, no way. 

964
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:10,400
Yes. 
No way is he an Aussie or is he 

965
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,400
just interested in a F? 
Li have well sure, he's an 

966
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,560
Aussie. 
He has to be in too many to be. 

967
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,280
Listening to the Sun's Lions 
call, you'd have to be 

968
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,640
Australian. 
You're just influencing. 

969
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,440
No, I don't some overseas. 
Although I did have a good good 

970
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,600
call. 
I've just done a quick Google. 

971
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,800
What was his name? 
Ben Tennant. 

972
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,720
Ben Shout out Ben. 
Thank you mate. 

973
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:35,640
I'd never thought. 
I love my job but I never 

974
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,720
thought my I would have a 
crossover point in my career 

975
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,800
where a bloke sweeping an ultra 
would be listening to me call 

976
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,760
fully that is. 
That's incredible. 

977
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,920
I've done a quick Google. 
Fell running, also sometimes 

978
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,720
known as hill running, is the 
sport of running and racing off 

979
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:54,400
road up over upland country 
where the grading climb is a 

980
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,800
significant component of the 
difficulty. 

981
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,840
So your spot on Courtney? 
The name arises from the origins

982
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,440
of the English sport on the 
fells of northern Britain, 

983
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,080
especially those in the Lake 
District. 

984
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,880
Oh, there you go. 
Absolutely smashed it. 

985
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,960
Now I've watched watched plenty 
of YouTube clips and videos on 

986
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,520
this type of thing. 
And when I raced back when I was

987
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,400
like, I suppose around London 
Olympics and that when I was 

988
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,800
racing the Brownlee brothers, 
yeah, yeah. 

989
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:16,920
I mean, that's what they grew up
doing. 

990
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:18,520
Yeah. 
That's how they that's how they 

991
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,640
that's, they run that that was 
their easy. 

992
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,840
Like it's interesting because we
talked about this a little bit 

993
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,160
about Aussies. 
You know, we on the Gold Coast, 

994
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,760
it's hot, it's hard, you know, 
get out in summer and train. 

995
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,520
On the flip side, now there's a 
question, is it, is it hard to 

996
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,960
get out where it's hot and 
steamy and humid or, or to get 

997
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,840
out and train? 
Or is it actually harder when 

998
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,280
you're living in a place like 
like Leeds or, you know, 

999
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,000
somewhere up in the Northern 
Lakes districts where pretty 

1000
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,800
much every day is going to be 
freezing cold, windy, rain? 

1001
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,680
You got to ride your bike. 
Well, there's a does that. 

1002
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,240
Toughen you up more than the 
heat. 

1003
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,760
Well, there's a hypothetical. 
It's an answer. 

1004
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,760
You can never. 
It's that whole thing of like 

1005
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,920
they won. 
So you could probably argue, but

1006
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,360
would they have won by more if 
they'd grown up in the heat? 

1007
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,960
It's that the idea of one of 
those unanswerable 

1008
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,320
hypotheticals, Although I think 
there was some weird experiment 

1009
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,360
whether someone might have tried
it back in the day of like if 

1010
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,000
you took identical twins, 
separated them at birth. 

1011
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,200
This is a hypothetical. 
I'm not going to do it and put 

1012
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,800
one in with a an impoverished 
family, put one in with a well 

1013
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,400
to do family. 
Do they grow up to achieve 

1014
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,760
similar things or divergent 
nature, neutral, that sort of 

1015
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:29,520
stuff? 
Environment. 

1016
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,960
If you took is involved, how 
much of an environment or is it 

1017
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,360
just if discipline is 
disciplined and if you took the 

1018
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,720
Brownlee brothers and raised 
them here on the Gold Coast, 

1019
00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:39,000
they. 
Still would have been bloody 

1020
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:39,800
good. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1021
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,400
But then as you were just 
talking about all that, then the

1022
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,840
Brownlee brothers doing that 
fell running, Andy Buchanan 

1023
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,680
talks about Falls Creek and 
Bendigo and all that sort of 

1024
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,200
running. 
And then you look at I'm going 

1025
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,680
to forget his name. 
Who's the UTAUT MB weapon? 

1026
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,240
Tom Evans? 
No, the Killian Jenna who grew 

1027
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:05,040
up cross country skiing and 
climbing mountains. 

1028
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,680
You know, so there is something 
if you needed any more evidence 

1029
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,960
that he'lls pay the bills. 
Yeah, it's right there. 

1030
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:23,360
I know you want to get to a new 
event that is coming, but can I 

1031
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,560
just quickly I actually. 
Don't really, but I'm going to 

1032
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,120
bring it. 
Up. 

1033
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,600
OK, quickly. 
I want to. 

1034
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:33,400
I had a moment. 
I was at Riggs Recovery in 

1035
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,960
Karamen. 
I started going there a little 

1036
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,520
bit trying to use it a bit more.
I had a massage a couple of 

1037
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:43,920
weeks back and the person M at I
had a massage at Riggs said do 

1038
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,080
you do much sauna? 
And I was and I said no, I 

1039
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,440
don't. 
She's like, I think you would 

1040
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,720
benefit from it anyway. 
So I'm trying to embrace sauna a

1041
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:52,240
little bit more at the moment. 
I don't know. 

1042
00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:56,280
She just said she was. 
But you did your first thing is 

1043
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:56,920
like. 
Why? 

1044
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,440
Why? 
Yeah, I don't know. 

1045
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,240
Anyway, I'm trying to do a 
little bit more sauna at the 

1046
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:03,480
moment and I was in the sauna 
just the other day at Riggs and 

1047
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,720
got chatting with this guy who I
don't. 

1048
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:08,200
Know where this is going? 
No. 

1049
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,880
No, no, no, no, no, no. 
He told me that. 

1050
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,880
He, I said we were just having 
chat, he's moved up from 

1051
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,960
Melbourne and he was talking 
about the fact that he used to 

1052
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,080
run ultras and race Iron Man and
all that stuff. 

1053
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,920
And I went and I hadn't said 
anything about my athletic stuff

1054
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,880
or this or anything. 
He just started telling me I'm 

1055
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,320
like, oh, this is going to be an
interesting conversation because

1056
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,640
I said to him, I was considering
that 100 Miller at UTA next 

1057
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:35,160
year. 
And he said when he's done 100K 

1058
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,640
race, I want to get your 
thoughts on his training regime.

1059
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,800
This is what he told me. 
He said the longest run he did 

1060
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:46,160
ahead of his 100K run was 19 
kilometres. 

1061
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,240
That was the longest run he went
for. 

1062
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:54,400
It must this on the short side. 
Very very short side. 

1063
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,960
What? 
He said he was doing and this is

1064
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,840
his technique. 
He was going in down and and 

1065
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:06,200
sauntering himself to the point 
of dehydration and then 

1066
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,760
training. 
He was taking himself to the 

1067
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,720
point of feeling like maybe he'd
put 60 to 70 KS in and then 

1068
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:15,280
training. 
Each to their own, but that 

1069
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,440
sounds bloody dangerous. 
I don't. 

1070
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,160
I didn't. 
We do not advocate that, no at 

1071
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,520
all. 
I he told me that and I just 

1072
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,880
kind of nodded and smiled and 
went wow. 

1073
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,640
So there's, I mean there's 
different measures. 

1074
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,440
I mean the whole, not to that 
extreme, but before the Tokyo 

1075
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,080
World Champs has been on in the 
whole Australian team are up in 

1076
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:40,160
Cairns training to try and heat 
acclimatise now before a real 

1077
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,040
hot Olympics or a major 
championship. 

1078
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,960
You'll get guys there's there's 
heat chambers in Canberra at the

1079
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,320
AIS, There's probably some 
around the Gold Coast as well, 

1080
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,840
somewhere where you know the 
treadmills are set up. 

1081
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,200
You can change all the 
environmental factors and do 

1082
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,760
your training in there to 
acclimatise, but it's done for 

1083
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,040
specific reasons in. 
Controlled. 

1084
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,880
In controlled environment. 
Purpose but. 

1085
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,360
Yeah, you know, and maybe there 
might be something behind once 

1086
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,560
every so often putting yourself 
in that uncomfortable position, 

1087
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:08,280
but. 
But as you. 

1088
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,600
As a training method, I yeah, 
Like, we're not, we're not 

1089
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,280
advocating that at all. 
Absolutely not. 

1090
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,840
Very interesting. 
I didn't, I didn't think you 

1091
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,800
were going to go there with 
that. 

1092
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:20,120
I don't know where you were 
going with it. 

1093
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,920
You started as we were. 
I promise next time I'm telling 

1094
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,880
you about me and a man in a 
sauna, I'll give you a heads up 

1095
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,240
next time. 
Well, not too far. 

1096
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:33,960
Dissimilar if I said to you the 
name Rhondelust. 

1097
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,160
Rhondelust Rhondelust Fitness 
Festival. 

1098
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,080
What? 
What, what? 

1099
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,680
What do you think? 
What comes to mind? 

1100
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:45,440
What comes to mind? 
What it it feels Wonderlust is a

1101
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,160
What comes to mind with 
Wonderlust is it feels gay and 

1102
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,040
lesbian. 
Mardi Gras, that's what, that's 

1103
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,640
what. 
Because I'm pretty sure there's 

1104
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,160
an event called Wunderlust. 
Yeah, right. 

1105
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,520
I didn't think you'll go on 
there either. 

1106
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,240
So. 
You asked me what came to mind. 

1107
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:01,920
Two out of two. 
You asked me what came to mind. 

1108
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,760
That's what came to mind, yeah. 
What is Runderlust? 

1109
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,680
That's a good question, Liam. 
It's 57 days away. 

1110
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,160
It is Australia's first fitness 
festival like no other. 

1111
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:18,240
Run as far as you can, as far as
you like on A1 kilometre loop 

1112
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,400
over 4 hours. 
You can do that solo or with 

1113
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,400
your crew. 
Take on epic fitness challenges 

1114
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,160
and vibe to live music, DJ sets 
or with a good party under the 

1115
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,160
stars that celebrate fitness 
comedian good vibes. 

1116
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,000
This is up in Noosa. 
I've heard about this. 

1117
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,000
Yeah. 
So it's from the mob that. 

1118
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,280
Isn't this up in Noosa? 
It is in Noosa. 

1119
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,800
Yeah. 
This is from the mob that do 

1120
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,120
like, I don't know what they 
call it, luxury escapes, but for

1121
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,400
fitness people, gotcha, You 
know, like, you know, they take 

1122
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:51,000
a few influences away. 
Yeah, I think Andrew, you know 

1123
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:57,840
he's a Sydney, but paps, paps, 
Yep, that that style of training

1124
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:00,720
and they take people, people pay
to go away. 

1125
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:02,960
Do yo go all that stuff. 
That's my understanding. 

1126
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:09,320
So this is their event. 
OK, Came across my desk a little

1127
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,560
while ago. 
I'm just. 

1128
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,040
I've just jumped on the website.
Just be aware Red Bull's partner

1129
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:20,120
this. 
How did you see that it's? 

1130
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,760
Runthelast.com dot AU Meet our 
partners LSKD Active Escapes, Dr

1131
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,880
Hydrate, RACV News Resort, Red 
Bull. 

1132
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,600
Well, great. 
I'm not gonna change what I was 

1133
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,480
saying. 
I know I wasn't gonna I wasn't 

1134
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,120
gonna edition. 
I wasn't gonna edition. 

1135
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,760
I'm I'll just say it's an it's 
an interesting one. 

1136
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,800
But no, what got me was I've had
a few people send their in like 

1137
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,320
this. 
Their what do you call the sell 

1138
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:48,360
the sales video like common 
experiences and it looks like 

1139
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,880
I'm like that looks amazing, but
this has never been on. 

1140
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:57,360
So the content's just been cut 
together to get you like, you 

1141
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,480
know what I mean? 
You know what I mean? 

1142
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,320
So there's a highlight reel 
highlight when it's never 

1143
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:04,960
happened. 
No. 

1144
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,720
Wow, that, I mean look great 
marketing, well done. 

1145
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:09,840
Are you interested? 
Well done. 

1146
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:17,040
I'm having a look at it right 
now, it the highlight reel, the 

1147
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,320
cuts of it, it looks fun. 
It looks really fun. 

1148
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,720
Run the Last is Australia's 
first fitness festival like no 

1149
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,840
other. 
Run as far as you can on a 1K 

1150
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,040
track over 4 hours solo hang. 
On, hang on, hang on. 

1151
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,120
I'm going to backtrack what I 
said then because I'm just 

1152
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,280
reading the thing. 
Welcome to run the last Fitness 

1153
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,800
Festival 2. 
So it has happened, so maybe 

1154
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,120
they have done it before. 
And Abby Holmes, who I know 

1155
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:43,080
through footy, not personally 
but I know through the AFL 

1156
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,000
scene, she's involved with it. 
So I'm going to take that back. 

1157
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,560
So it's a fitness I. 
Don't know enough about? 

1158
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,600
Oh yeah. 
This is this appears to be an 

1159
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:54,240
extension on the sort of the AG 
one night of the PBS, the LSKD 

1160
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,280
chase the five. 
It appears to be an extension on

1161
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,760
that where you're running a bit 
further, but then you're 

1162
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,160
remaining in the area. 
Oh look, I'll be fascinated to 

1163
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,080
see how it goes because I wonder
if. 

1164
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,240
How much is a ticket? 
How much would you pay? 

1165
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,600
There's a question. 
Oh, here we go. 

1166
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,040
So it's limited to 1500 
athletes. 

1167
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,960
That's solo run 7070 bucks. 
Oh, no, no. 

1168
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,160
Oh yeah. 
And pairs run is 120. 

1169
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,040
Yeah, but then you must pay for 
each because then it's the 

1170
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,280
hybrid. 
The the hybrid SIM is 70 bucks, 

1171
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,400
the dash 60 so you must pay per 
and the. 

1172
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,200
Hybrid SIM is a high Rock, You 
can just. 

1173
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,520
Be a VIP for 300 and that must 
just get you OK the full whack 

1174
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,640
300 bucks, it's cheap right? 
So here's here's what I would 

1175
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,440
say 70 bucks, I'm there. 
I'm doing that for 70 bucks. 70 

1176
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,080
bucks is a really accessible 
price to participate in 

1177
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,400
something like this and 30 bucks
is a get along and and hang out 

1178
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,480
ticket. 
Really well priced, well done. 

1179
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,160
Run the lust you've you've 
trying to create something new, 

1180
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,640
trying to create some hype about
it and you've made it affordable

1181
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,040
and accessible. 
I don't know how much does Hyrox

1182
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:08,080
cost to enter because $70.00 for
what appears to be run the last 

1183
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,240
version of a Hyrox race. 
They're calling it the hybrid 

1184
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,280
SIM, but it's it's essentially 
81K runs with a bunch of 

1185
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,000
activities in between it. 
I just did a quick Google, 

1186
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:23,080
expect to pay over 100 to 200 
U.S. dollars around 150 to 300 

1187
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,480
AUD. 
So you're paying half that to do

1188
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,640
a run the last version of High 
Rocks. 

1189
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,760
Well done. 
Run the last. 

1190
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,240
While you go. 
When's it on I? 

1191
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,800
Don't know. 
It's on the 22nd of November up 

1192
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:35,560
in Newson. 
Should we? 

1193
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,720
Should we go up? 
Oh, your Red Bull's a partner? 

1194
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,880
Yeah, Yeah. 
You go there, OK. 

1195
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,600
Well, I I would prefer to do the
cut here. 

1196
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,040
Oh, yeah. 
Is that the same way? 

1197
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,720
I don't know. 
It's in. 

1198
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,880
I think it's in November as 
well. 50K. 

1199
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,280
Yeah, they take it. 
And do that. 

1200
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,880
Too they cut down each lap, 
start with 200 or so, cut down a

1201
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,880
person or few each. 
One point 5K. 

1202
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,840
Yes, I love the cut. 
They even give you a toilet. 

1203
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:05,120
Stop at 10 Ki here. 
Oh, that's so I can do that 

1204
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,400
because that's the weekend 
before Noosa and I'm not going 

1205
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,800
to be doing this year this year.
So I can definitely go and do 

1206
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,600
that. 
Should we do the cut this year? 

1207
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,280
I would like to do the cut. 
Let's do the cut. 

1208
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,000
We'll reach out to Steve. 
Is it Steve? 

1209
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:17,960
Steve. 
Yeah. 

1210
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,640
You can't remember, can you? 
Yeah, but I would no, we'd pay 

1211
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:22,680
to do the. 
Cut. 

1212
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:23,920
We'll reach out to Steve. 
No. 

1213
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,600
Yeah, we'll reach. 
Out to Steve, we support local 

1214
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,880
events. 
Then we would I will pay to go 

1215
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,440
along and participate. 
I quickly if you're following 

1216
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,880
the footy today, Brisbane to win
Norm Smith battle Will Ashcroft,

1217
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,400
he'll go back to back. 
Two years in a row. 

1218
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,400
I think these guys starting to 
play great footy at the right 

1219
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,320
time again, if the Lions get on 
top and this becomes a free 

1220
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,840
flowing end to end game. 
Will Ashcroft's ad Lib style of 

1221
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:55,440
football is set for September. 
He showed the last year and I 

1222
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,760
think he just attracts the eye 
when he's playing great football

1223
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:03,040
I think and then suddenly this 
is a 23 year old kid with two 

1224
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,320
Norm Smiths and two premiership 
medallions and he goes to 

1225
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:06,760
another stratosphere. 
There you go. 

1226
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,520
You heard it from the from the 
X, from the X Triple M 

1227
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,200
commentator. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1228
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,160
Hey, it's good to be back. 
It's going to be back. 

1229
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,160
It's always better that way. 
And if you haven't, listen Dan 

1230
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,520
Atkins coming up and like I 
said, I'm going to start 

1231
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:21,920
comparing some training 
sessions. 

1232
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,160
So for those who are interested 
in training, yeah, have some 

1233
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,080
info now quickly. 
Before we do go, I've got one 

1234
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,080
more thing. 
I need you. 

1235
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,080
I need you to make it. 
I need you to put your name to 

1236
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,200
something. 
Courtney Atkinson. 

1237
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,040
OK, what are we doing? 
Because I've just made an 

1238
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,400
investment and I need to know 
that I'm not, I haven't. 

1239
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,080
I'm not already dated by the 
cool kids. 

1240
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,560
OK, so clothing. 
Yes, it's clothing based 

1241
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,440
salomons. 
Yes, I've invested in a pair of 

1242
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:50,560
the Ace AG, SS, ACS, ACS. 
The Comfy St. 

1243
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,600
Because the XT6 is my fat, my 
fat feet don't fit into them. 

1244
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,640
Are your inmate where them into 
the office. 

1245
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,800
They haven't. 
They're not uncool yet. 

1246
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,160
No. 
OK. 

1247
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:03,920
They're going like. 
Hotcakes, they're not dated. 

1248
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,160
I don't want to be. 
I don't want people to make fun 

1249
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,080
of me for having. 
Not dated. 

1250
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,960
There's it's still, it's still 
surprising me how many people 

1251
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,000
are wearing around Solomon. 
I haven't worn them. 

1252
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,880
Yet to the shoes. 
OK, wait them in the office 

1253
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,920
mate. 
Every 25 year old you walk past 

1254
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,120
it is going to go at least. 
As long as the 25 year olds 

1255
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,640
think I'm cool. 
When you get a head nod, you'll 

1256
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:23,800
know. 
What's going on? 

1257
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,040
Righto There you go, enjoy your 
weekend and we will see you 

1258
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:28,480
next. 
Week. 

1259
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:29,240
See you next week.