1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,800 In the beginning, episode 35, it wasn't as clean as I'd like to 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,560 to have been. How are you mate? 3 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:07,840 I'm. Going to have one too. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,400 It's been a long day. It's been a long day in the 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,880 build up to this. We got running to talk about. 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,720 We got some top. The top running songs have been 7 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,120 identified. A bit of a Strava deep dive's 8 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,440 been done. We'll get to those in a SEC 9 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,680 first. I think we've been doing a 10 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,800 pretty good job of light of dipping our toe into other 11 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,840 sports that we are not experts in, especially me. 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,880 You're an Olympian, you're qualified to talk about some of 13 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,480 this stuff. As you can tell by my hat, I was 14 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:38,320 at the Gold Coast Pro during well, what's going on? 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,880 We both. I know, I know that Liam, 16 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,880 because I was there with you. So thank you. 17 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:44,320 We both were. We were hanging out down there 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,560 in those awesome Red Bull best seats on the point. 19 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,520 Yep, set up that they had down there which were the best seats 20 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,480 on the point which. Were better than the VIP area. 21 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:58,200 So much so that we ended up awkwardly being stuck in the 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,160 back of shot on the broadcast for every surfers, coach and 23 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,800 team that came into the area because it wasn't meant to be 24 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,880 the place for the surfers, coaches and teams to necessarily 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,680 hang out and direct them from it. 26 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,240 Wasn't. And so they told me in the end 27 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,000 that the crew from Red Bull told me that was set up for actually 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,960 like an activation for spectators to come down and like 29 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,200 best seats in the house. Just pull someone out of the 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,720 crowd and go, hey, instead of sitting on the rocks, come up 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,720 here, have a drink, have a bit of food on us. 32 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,560 But what it turned into, because of the way they were surfing, 33 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,160 the point, the surfers were down further than they normally would 34 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,680 be. So from the actual proper 35 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,200 athlete area and coach's area, they couldn't see the surf 36 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,840 properly. Hence, we ended up in the 37 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,000 coach's box. So we say, if you can for people 38 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,360 out there that don't quite understand what we're saying, if 39 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,320 you imagine a tennis tournament and you see the camera cut to 40 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:49,760 the coach's box and you often see Nick Kyrgios and the likes 41 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,360 yelling at their coach's box, The what we were sitting in was 42 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,840 the surfers equivalent of that. So and as these heats finished, 43 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,880 the coaches and the, you know, team of each surfer would walk 44 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,400 out and then the next heat, coaches and team would walk in. 45 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,400 And it just looked like you and I were, I don't know, dagging 46 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,600 over every team that walked in. Like the Brazil. 47 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:14,240 We were part of the Brazilian team for a while. 48 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,320 Girlfriends, boyfriends included and. 49 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:19,720 You and I there the whole time. Anyway, we're hanging out there. 50 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,560 It was awesome and then the VIP section above Bill Pavilion was 51 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,360 good fun too. What I wanted to get through 52 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,240 though, the event itself was moved there because Snapper, the 53 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,720 ex tropical cyclone had wiped away the bank at Snapper and it 54 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,080 wasn't going to hold up to the WSLS needs for the surfing comp. 55 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,920 That event at Burleigh was awesome. 56 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,600 That was so good. That was that was incredible. 57 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,800 It was a. Perfect spot to have the actual 58 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,040 event, but I know you're going to go where. 59 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,880 The surf is which brings to my next question. 60 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,840 Where should it be next year? Berly, you go, so you go. 61 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,640 This is the way I'm phrasing this question. 62 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:02,200 Is athlete over audience or audience over athlete cause for 63 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,400 the spectators, Berly's better I. 64 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,280 Guess the surfers are going to say go back to snapper 100%. 65 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,000 It's a better surf for the event and for spectators. 66 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,560 And the way it turned out and it was even pretty ordinary weather 67 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:15,920 over the weekend, it was still good. 68 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,200 Can you imagine if it was like a Bluebird four or five days they 69 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,960 got as well. That's amazing. 70 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,800 I mean. 10,000 people down there on the final. 71 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,440 Day and Burley's only gonna get like by next year, the train or 72 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,640 the tram or the G link or whatever you want to call it 73 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:31,960 probably goes down to Burley. That place is gonna be, you 74 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,280 know, it'll be two packed. OK. 75 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:39,000 So next year you even if the bank is ready to go back at 76 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,800 Snapper next year, you would still hold the event at Burley 77 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,440 because of what the event site and the atmosphere that it 78 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,840 depends. Depends what hat I've got on 79 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,720 mate. I think for. 80 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,920 Right now you've got your In the Beginning podcast hat on Burley. 81 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,560 So 'cause I spoke to some people from the WSLIP spoke to some 82 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,120 people from Experience Gold Coast and it'll go back to 83 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,520 Snapper next year. But the challenge they face is 84 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,520 how to recreate. I think it's kind of a win win 85 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,560 because they get to go back to the better way, which will be 86 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,280 Snapper. But now they can see what an 87 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,640 event site should look like on the Gold Coast. 88 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,240 So they now have the challenge to recreate that burly heads 89 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:26,160 event site at Snapper. Next question 2032 Olympics 90 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,880 Where should the surfing be held? 91 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,400 Snapper. There you go, backflipped for 92 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,080 the Olympic Games. I'd want to see it in the best 93 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,200 surf. This is so interesting because 94 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,160 my head is the other way. I think the WSL should be back 95 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,720 at snapper next year, but I think for the Olympics it should 96 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,360 be at Burley. Now you say what? 97 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,040 I'm completely the opposite because for the Olympics I want 98 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,480 the best surf, best chance. It's about 100% about the 99 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,480 competition. OK, WSL, yes, it's about the 100 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,600 competition for the surfers. And here we are talking like 101 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,240 Sir, we know what surfers think but but. 102 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,280 But the surf is considered the snapper. 103 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:01,960 The better way, 100%. It's on its day. 104 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,320 It's the best way. Well, however, when you take 105 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:09,240 into year on year the fact that it created that style of event 106 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,720 because the reason there's multiple reasons why you come to 107 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,120 a location when you bring an international event to a 108 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,080 location. And what Burly proved on the 109 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,840 weekend or over the last few weekends is that it is by far a 110 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:23,400 better location to bring people in. 111 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,880 Now here's where I argue a little bit around the type of 112 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,680 people that get down there because hey, heavy surf crew who 113 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,000 love watch surfing are gonna go no matter what. 114 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,560 Now, where you could put, you could put it down at Kingscliff 115 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,000 and they're still gonna rock up. You could put it in Byron, 116 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,960 they're still gonna rock up. Put it at Bloody 1770 with no 117 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,000 surf, they're still gonna rock up. 118 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,120 But however, what you did by moving it to Burley was I think 119 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,360 you brought a new kind of, let's say the locals especially. 120 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,720 I think you got a lot more locals down there that normally 121 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,880 wouldn't go down to snapper, including myself. 122 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,320 Here's why I say that. Red Bull obviously heavily 123 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,600 involved in WSL. The skis, like we talked about 124 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,920 how we're up in the athletes. You've got that, You've got that 125 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,720 individual surfers that you sponsored, Yeah. 126 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:08,760 This has been going on for as long as I've been around the 127 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,560 business. Yeah. 128 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,280 I've never been to Snapper to watch. 129 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:13,360 I've never been for the simple reason. 130 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,800 Well, yeah, yeah, just. It's not a. 131 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Convenient spot. It's not a convenient spot to 132 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,800 get to further away from me. Burly's easier. 133 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,880 It's only going to get easier, hence why I say I I don't want 134 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,880 barely any busier either as a local, but when we're bringing 135 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,080 in an international event there, that is the place. 136 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:38,400 But but at an Olympic level, as an Olympian, you want whatever 137 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,520 the arena is, whether it's the wave, the track, the road, you 138 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,400 want it set up so that the athletes can they've got the 139 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,600 best chance to compete. Yeah, and I also know how the 140 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,000 Olympics works. They're gonna try and sell 141 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,960 tickets, so they'll create the grandstand, they'll create it'll 142 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,680 be bigger than WSL in the sense of they'll create the needs to 143 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:01,600 ticket it to watch it in a way that I I don't think they would 144 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,480 allow surfing to be completely free. 145 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,120 Oh. There you go. 146 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,920 Because of the style I like, this is a bold prediction. 147 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,720 Because of the style of the point, they're gonna sell 148 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,320 tickets to be able to watch it. And I'm not saying you can't go 149 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,600 halfway, you know, say they rented at Burley. 150 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,240 I'm not saying you couldn't go and stand on the beach at Burley 151 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,360 and watch it from afar. Yeah, but I guarantee you. 152 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Actually, I can't guarantee anything. 153 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,400 I'm not in that position to guarantee it, but I was. 154 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,040 I would if it would be in my mind that that whole area would 155 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,160 be ticketed for the Olympics and limited. 156 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,240 This is. So why after then is the place 157 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,080 to do it? Because you're ticketed. 158 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,320 You get there, you don't have to fight the crowds it you just get 159 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,240 there and it's gonna be limited on how you can. 160 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,080 Watch it. And the very notion of that is 161 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,920 so anti surfing that idea that you might restrict it. 162 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,880 Olympics is anti surfing. That, but that's what I mean. 163 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,080 But I think, well, so the Olympics I'm. 164 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,840 Gonna get shot down for saying that, but like, it's the new age 165 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,720 of the Olympics, right? But I mean, they ran an 166 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,280 Olympics. What's I mean, take it to the 167 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,600 extreme Paris the surface went to. 168 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,120 Was in Chopu, in Chopu in Tahiti and another country on the other 169 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,960 side they were. Halfway around the other side of 170 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,760 the world for their Olympic Games and you know, if hey, it's 171 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,800 the best way in the world. It was French and everything 172 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,640 else. But the fact is when you're 173 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,240 talking about Olympic Games and athletes wanting to be part of 174 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,880 the Olympics and around the Olympics, I think I would go, 175 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:39,039 I've never heard of a a sport that was as far away from the 176 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:41,840 Olympics as that. I'm just having interesting 177 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,400 because the most recent Olympics, as you say, Chopu now 178 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,760 spectators not ticketing for spectators. 179 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,520 Not a drama there. You either have a boat you can 180 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,160 get into the channel or you can't, right? 181 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,440 They they didn't have that problem. 182 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,240 I'm just having a bit of a quick Google of Surigasaki beach in 183 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,640 Japan is where the surfing was held for the Japan Olympics. 184 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,800 Now I'm not sure what that I've never been there. 185 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,880 I don't really know what the setup would have been like, but 186 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,080 snapper if it isn't, it should be the location for the surfing 187 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,800 for Prison 2032. What I mean by it's that's very 188 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,800 anti surfing is what makes the WSL event and other surfing 189 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,560 events great When you go down there is that you can walk out 190 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:24,160 and basically stand in shin deep, knee deep water and almost 191 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,640 reach out and touch the surface as they cut catch the way from 192 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,080 behind the rock and all the rest of that. 193 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:36,280 So the idea that the IOC might come in and go so righto, well, 194 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,680 the beach is closed here. The beach is closed all the way 195 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:41,520 around to, I don't know, Rainbow. 196 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:48,560 Unless you've got a ticket, it'll be it'll be a real moment. 197 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,560 We're we're guessing, I'm guessing. 198 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:52,320 No, no, no. It's a fun I mean. 199 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,920 If you think about when Commonwealth Games was on the 200 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,120 beach, volleyball was down at Kira, I mean, it was you. 201 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,600 You can't just go and watch it. It's a ticketed event into a 202 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,760 grandstand. It's gonna be fun. 203 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,040 This, this is. I enjoy this, but I also like 204 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,760 the take that Olympics performance matters more. 205 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,200 Yep. And the A4. 206 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,440 It should that 2032 should be at snapper. 207 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,120 But from a major event perspective, Bailey's the 208 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,320 location. Bailey was great. 209 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,640 It's good. It's good. 210 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:20,920 Let's take into some running, mate. 211 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,880 I found this post and I wanna as soon as I saw it and before we 212 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,800 get into it, are you when you're up in the trails, I know you 213 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,800 don't have headphones in sometimes. 214 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,000 Well, sometimes. What do you listen to? 215 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,680 Well, I either listen to a podcast, a long podcast and I'm 216 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:38,960 happy to run to that, or I listen to just music. 217 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,040 And the way I do it, I get into Spotify, I select a a generally 218 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,920 a song that I like and then I'll just put on the radio. 219 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,080 So you have that that kind of. Like you let the algorithm 220 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,720 decide. Yeah, I'll just let it decide, 221 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,320 find some new songs. Like at the moment I've gone 222 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,640 into, I'm doing a lot of what's it called, Triple J, like 223 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,800 Aversions. Yep, some of them I hate, some 224 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,760 of them I like. But you know what it's it's all 225 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,720 variety and new songs that I probably haven't heard. 226 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:04,960 So that's where I'm at at the moment. 227 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,760 What about? You cause I've, yeah, well, I'm, 228 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:12,680 I'm a if I run with my phone, I'll listen to a podcast if I 229 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:16,360 don't run with my phone and I've just got my watch, I've got, 230 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,520 I've only got 1 playlist preloaded onto my watch, which 231 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,920 is a hip hop playlist. So it's not curated. 232 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,520 It's, well, it's, I think it's Spotify curated it for me when I 233 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,560 uploaded it. Yeah, and now I haven't changed 234 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:31,320 it, so I probably should. But the idea of man making a 235 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,480 playlist to run to, I don't know if I can be bothered. 236 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,720 Like that's kind of my attitude towards it a bit. 237 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,400 Well, that's why the radio function works so well. 238 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,360 You pick it, you know, at the time, you know, week to week, 239 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,040 different songs. My tickle, you fancy. 240 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,080 And I'm like, oh, that song today, I feel like that. 241 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,480 And then just hit the radio and you'll just get spammed with all 242 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,360 the same songs. And I think I'm contractually 243 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,920 obliged to say don't forget about the Listener app, which is 244 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,680 which is the company I work for. Hey. 245 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,560 Please, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna let I'm gonna let you have a bit 246 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:05,280 of a spiel here because I want you to explain to me. 247 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,680 Yeah. Listener app because who is it? 248 00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:10,760 The podcaster. How he how he, how he games 249 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:11,880 Listener. Yep. 250 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,720 Always advertised Listener come to listener come to listener. 251 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,640 So. So this is the listen listener 252 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:24,000 is is like is some IP that the company I work for a Southern 253 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,040 Cross Australia created. They made it, they built this 254 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,440 player and it's essentially I mean, for lack of a better 255 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,960 comparison, it's Spotify, OK, but the difference is that it is 256 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,320 they own the IP of it. It's where they stream all their 257 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,280 radio shows, so you can live stream. 258 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,320 So for people that more and more the radio cars are more adapted, 259 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,640 you know, listening through this sort of stuff now. 260 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:54,640 So as digital radio grows, this is listener is SE as way of 261 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,600 keeping pace and moving forward and showing. 262 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:02,080 So you kinda like on demand TV stations yes for radio yeah, but 263 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,520 they've also got podcasts added in there. 264 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,560 Exactly. They've got their suite of 265 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:07,000 podcasts, all the podcasts they've licenced from overseas. 266 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,600 You've got specific radio. So if you're into country music, 267 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,000 there's a triple M country. If you're into 80s there's all 268 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,400 that sort of hey, it makes sense you got channel 7 channel 269 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,840 channel 7 plus that's exactly what domain perfect. 270 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,520 So anyway, I found this post though it's come from Track 271 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,680 House which has great Instagram account if you love your 272 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:25,960 running. And what they've done is they 273 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,720 got 500 runners to tell them their favourite songs to run 274 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,680 through, and then they've basically condensed them down to 275 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:35,960 a top five S 500 runners is a sample size and these are the 276 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,360 top five tracks that people run to from this survey. 277 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,680 So let's start with #5A song I had never heard before. 278 00:13:54,320 --> 00:14:02,880 That is, I like that. So it's by Eagles of Death 279 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,480 Metal, which the band I've heard of, but it's called Miss Alyssa 280 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,680 and apparently it was part of a famous Nike ad in 2014. 281 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,560 Yeah, I I hadn't heard that song. 282 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,480 It says the the comment is you'll feel like you're in a 283 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,840 movie while racing a middle aged mum in a park run. 284 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,560 Maybe enough people have run around Nike and got Nike stuff. 285 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,960 They've heard it. That's over and over. 286 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,400 When you hear the rest of this list. 287 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,000 This would be American, I'm assuming. 288 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,040 Yeah, probably when you hear the rest of this list, I think 289 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,480 there's that that is a this list is a big tick for Nike. 290 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,720 The fact that a song from a Nike ad has managed to cut through. 291 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,360 Because the rest of them, I think people will know coming in 292 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:45,200 #4 Goldie, I mean, do you find the set of stairs? 293 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,960 Do you play? It How often do you play this? 294 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,640 Survive Eye the Tiger on the show, on the radio station. 295 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,720 Yeah, yeah, I reckon I used to play it more. 296 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,040 I used to play it more when we're in Brisbane now that the 297 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,080 moon, Gold Coast Breakfast, probably not as much, but yeah. 298 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,600 Eye the Tiger by Survivor, 1980, That song's older than me. 1982 299 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,360 that song came out on Good song anyway #3. 300 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,240 You gotta wait for this one to Rev up. 301 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,160 This is the. I did a lot of running to this. 302 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,080 Really. Yeah, yeah, I remember this one. 303 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,960 Florence and the machine dog days are over. 304 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,640 I mean, I've only got the start here, but it it ramps up, this 305 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,480 would be a good build song. You know, like if you're doing 306 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,560 1K reps or something and you want to bring it home. 307 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,320 That's nice. OK, number two more much more 308 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,080 recent song. Come on in. 309 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,520 Let's. Go straight up. 310 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,560 It's a good running straight up can't hold us. 311 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,880 Macklemore and Ryan Lewis. OK, I want that one. 312 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,480 That's good running time and then. 313 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,280 Did this surprise your number one? 314 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,440 Yes, it did, you know. No, because I don't. 315 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,200 OK so I came across the reason I know this. 316 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,880 I wouldn't know any for any other reason. 317 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:01,520 Then it was a what was the Netflix show with There was this 318 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,680 that all the kids, the kids in the house all had superpowers. 319 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,160 One of them was like an ape ape style X-Men. 320 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,680 This is gonna do my head in now for the rest of the show. 321 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,200 Hold on. It's a Netflix show. 322 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,920 A Netflix show? Kids have superpowers. 323 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,840 Yep. In a house? 324 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,080 Yep. And their dad. 325 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,120 Grazing down Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children. 326 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,600 No, that one too. Anyway, someone will tell us. 327 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,520 Extraordinary, no? We can be heroes. 328 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,000 No, I'm gonna find it in a minute, but that Umbrella 329 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,600 Academy, Umbrella Academy here, we got there, we got there, and 330 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,040 we probably just lost half out. But yeah, how's the rule? 331 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,320 Things, yeah, no, we didn't cause 'cause I guarantee people 332 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,520 were running along going Umbrella Academy, Umbrella 333 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,080 Academy. Yes, so it was in their 334 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,200 soundtracks, OK And they had a good soundtrack for their first 335 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,000 series, so. I've never seen it, but the song 336 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,480 is called Run Boy, Run by Woodkid. 337 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:04,440 Run Boy, Run This world all is not meant for you. 338 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:07,960 Run by run. They're trying to catch you. 339 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,640 Run by running. Running is a victory. 340 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,400 Run by running. You realise behind the heels. 341 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,359 I hate it, I hate it. I hate it. 342 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,920 So do I hate it. That's that. 343 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,080 I'd never I, I deliberately. I knew I hadn't heard the song 344 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,240 so I avoided it since I sent you the post. 345 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,880 That's a horrible song to run to. 346 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,680 Well, you get you going. It's got to it's got to be the 347 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,920 but you know why I reckon it's the most popular run boy run. 348 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:47,200 So if you type in anything to do with running Oh, if you search 349 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,240 running songs, run anything to do with. 350 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,680 That it automatically just resonance? 351 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,720 Run, boy, run. There you go. 352 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,200 That's clever. So I don't think they were 353 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,120 thinking about. No, no. 354 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,600 Well, well, hold on. Maybe there's an opportunity for 355 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,600 us here to come up with a song and make it #1 we just call it 356 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,360 Run Faster. Running, just running. 357 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,040 I'm running. It was a huge part of that 358 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,080 Umbrella Academy. Anyway, there are the, there are 359 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,560 the top five songs to run to according to to track house and 360 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:16,480 the survey. They've done good. 361 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,480 I like track house. Again, if if you love your 362 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,040 running stuff, underscore, track house Underscore is the account. 363 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,240 And yeah, it's a, it's a really great account just for, for 364 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,280 running pop culture stuff. Yep, let's move on. 365 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,240 Welcome to Wrexham. Have you watched it? 366 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,400 Oh yeah, 100%. They're coming to town. 367 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,200 Well, that that's why I've got it on the show this week. 368 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,320 That's why I'm talking about it. So welcome to Rex. 369 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,920 And if you haven't heard about it on Disney. 370 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,400 Yeah, they're so soccer team. Yeah. 371 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,600 Done a little bit of background. So they are the wait. 372 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,840 Well, let's go from the beginning. 373 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,800 All purchased by the Hollywood stars. 374 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,120 Ryan Reynolds And who's Here we go. 375 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,000 This will be fun. Rob. 376 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,320 Say your surname. Rob Mcelhaney. 377 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,680 You're close, Mcelhenny. Does he say it like that? 378 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,560 Yeah. OK, so they purchased this team 379 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,920 for 2.5 million U.S. dollars and it I just saw yesterday, whether 380 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,520 it's right or wrong, about 400 mil it's worth now. 381 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,040 Yeah. So it's not a bad investment. 382 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,680 It is as a soccer club, football club. 383 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,720 It is. It was formed in 1864 and it's 384 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,160 the oldest club in Wales and the third oldest professional 385 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,720 football team in the world. It's cool. 386 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,200 Cool story, cool. Story and if you haven't watched 387 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,360 the doco, it's easy to go back and it's such a great it's such 388 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:38,400 a well produced sports documentary. 389 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,920 I think sports doco's and we've talked a bit about last dance 390 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,400 and Sprint and all these other ones and Drive to survive there 391 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,240 has they've they've almost become a bit formulaic like as 392 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,320 in they start to Drive to survive started it and now 393 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,120 they've done a G1 and then they did a tennis. 394 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:57,440 One then, well, I'm watching. I'm watching NASCAR at the 395 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,840 moment. Is it similar, exactly the same. 396 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,280 I think Welcome to Wrexham is unique because I've got a story. 397 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,800 It's a different, it's a different format and I and I 398 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,440 really like it. So if you're looking for a bit 399 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,360 of a freshen up on the sports docko, Welcome to Wrexham 400 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,680 recommend it. Well, it's got AI mean there's 401 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,760 two stories in one. So you've got the usual sports 402 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,080 story like you get in Formula One, NASCAR, whatever it is of a 403 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,000 club or a team or a driver striving to get through the 404 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,720 leagues and all every week on eight week, what goes on? 405 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,560 Then you've got this secondary kind of of these Hollywood 406 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,800 owners creating tourism for the town, creating the club and what 407 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,080 they're going through and the struggles and everything else of 408 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,240 actually owning a football team. So it's amazing. 409 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,360 It's a great documentary. And and the other part of that 410 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:45,480 is the news this week that they are now going to come down here 411 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,280 in the in the offseason or pre season or they. 412 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,800 Are so they're going to play Melbourne Victory, Sydney FC and 413 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,440 then Wellington, Wellington Phoenix. 414 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:58,720 I'm Do you watch a league? No, no, I'm not sure who does 415 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,800 the A league. We we don't have, we shouldn't 416 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,680 say that soccer soccer's the biggest, one of the biggest, if 417 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,000 not they big, biggest participation ports still here 418 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,960 in Australia. I know my daughter plays soccer. 419 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,560 I played soccer growing up. I love the sport. 420 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,280 The A league has an identity problem and I don't, we don't 421 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,560 have time to unpack it today. Yeah, I will just quickly say 422 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,600 this. It's not in the the NBL can be 423 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,560 seen as a feeder league. You can launch from the NBL and 424 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,480 go on to greater things. The next Stars generation 425 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,600 programme that I've set up is really, really smart, really 426 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,840 astute. The A League has an identity 427 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,000 problem in that if you're any good, a lot of football, as 428 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,880 young football's coming through, if you're any good, you're off 429 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,920 to an Academy system by the time you're 16, right overseas 430 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,240 somewhere. And then if you become any good 431 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,040 later on in life, you then go or, or you age out of those 432 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,920 elite leagues over in Europe. Yeah. 433 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,920 Now there's so much money in the Middle East and Asia that why 434 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,040 would you come back here and play it's. 435 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:07,480 I just think the A League has a as an identity problem as to 436 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,280 what they represent as a league. They they have the same problem 437 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,760 majority of European based sports, professional sports have 438 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,080 here in Australia. So think of cycling. 439 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,760 Let's bring it back a little bit to insurance. 440 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,480 Yeah, cycling has the same issue. 441 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,680 If you're going to make it in cycling, you're in Europe. 442 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,040 So even as a young, you know, a younger guy, yeah, you come 443 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,000 through the ranks in Australia, but as soon as you're good 444 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,840 enough, you'll be signed to some feeder team, some team in 445 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,200 Europe. You want to race in Europe, you 446 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,520 want to get experience in Europe. 447 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,160 And even triathlon at an Olympic level, that's happened to that 448 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,520 because all the Olympic Games stuff is driven out of Europe. 449 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,240 If you're going to make it, you've got to be in Europe. 450 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,200 And what that does is it when you want your offseason, you're 451 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,520 generally back here in Australia, and I think that's 452 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,000 the same thing. With Peter Benita talked a bit 453 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,880 about this on some of the marathon EPS we've been doing 454 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,040 about the fact that she was basically living over in Europe 455 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,360 for most of her career. Yeah, I mean, and it's, it's a 456 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,800 long haul to think I've got to come back and forth, you know, 457 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,080 if you're in Asia, no stress. Yeah. 458 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,480 And then and then certain comps are in America too, but Europe's 459 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,600 pretty it's. Great news that Rex's been 460 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,560 coming to town, though. Yep. 461 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,080 And would you go? Yeah, absolutely. 462 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,320 Yeah, it was. So we just said we don't watch a 463 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,280 league, No, don't watch soccer. But I want to go to, I want to 464 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,440 go to this too. It's a show. 465 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:21,880 To drag it back to running. Yep. 466 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,240 It's the experience, yeah, it's the event. 467 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,720 It's the notion that if you said to a lot of people, hey go run 468 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,080 21K, it's like no get stuff. Would you buy merch to go just 469 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,120 to feel like you're part of it? Yep. 470 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,080 Yep. But the as as I get older and 471 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:45,160 I'm not that old, but as I get older, I'm starting to, I'm, 472 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,080 I've hit a point in my life where I can see where like if 473 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,760 you're going to do something, just go in on it. 474 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,800 Like if, what's the point in dipping your toe half into 475 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,840 something? And that doesn't mean you know 476 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,200 you have to become an obsessive about everything you do. 477 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,480 But if you're going to go to one of these games, why wouldn't you 478 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,360 pie a bit? Why wouldn't you throw yourself 479 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:07,120 in blind? Like just all in, In for a 480 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:08,400 penny, in for a pound. Yep. 481 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,360 I reckon these are going to be hot tickets so you'd probably 482 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:12,760 want to get in early. If not, that's if they're on 483 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,800 sale. They're probably gone. 484 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,880 Red Bull sponsoring anybody? They get, they do have a few 485 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,880 soccer teams and I think they got Wrexham, yeah. 486 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,720 So I'm. Talking about getting sold and 487 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,600 talking about getting. Let's get back to a bit more 488 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,120 running. Timothy McDonald sent us a 489 00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:31,200 message. Say that to. 490 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,680 You know, we've all we've talked about Strava premium and you're 491 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,920 not having it. Didn't realise this. 492 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,120 He he said suggestion just get Strava premium friends and 493 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:43,240 family plan. You can get four people for 12 494 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,680 month plan for a dollar $1.50 a 150 bucks. 495 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:49,280 I had no idea this was even an offering. 496 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,080 Either did I. Strava do a premium friends and 497 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,840 family plan. Probably should have done a spot 498 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,000 check on this but I'll miss you. Like Tim, I trust you. 499 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,640 And that makes me think now, Liam, like why wouldn't you just 500 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,640 go in with four mates and split? The costs, So what? 501 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,880 And you're paying 40 bucks a year. 502 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,000 Oh on 50 bucks? Subscribers on a family plan pay 503 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,800 $140.00 a year plus applicable taxes. 504 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,960 Da da da da da. So it says only a family plan, 505 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,120 not family and friends. I mean, they're not gonna know 506 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:24,200 who your friends are, are they? Updated subscription prices. 507 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:30,040 Subscribers on a family plan for Australia pay $170 a year. 508 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,800 Now what that involves I'm not sure, but that's interesting. 509 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,480 I didn't I didn't know there was a family plan for a start. 510 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,560 But if that covers 4 of you, Yep, then yeah, that's. 511 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,320 Really hot, hot tip on that one from from Tim. 512 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,000 I maintain I'm I'm doubling down on that Strava prediction I made 513 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,840 about usability for non premium users by the end of the year. 514 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,200 I think it's going to accelerate. 515 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,520 I think by September, by the time we hit peak running season, 516 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,280 it's going to be tough to use Strava unless you're on premium. 517 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,000 I mean, I'm thinking of a birthday present for you, Liam, 518 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,000 already. And I've got it. 519 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,720 And it's like it's a give me, but I'm not. 520 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,000 You're gonna put me on. But I'm also thinking, yeah, 521 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,360 yeah, yeah. To make it real cheap. 522 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,720 I was gonna buy you one, but now I know this. 523 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:19,720 Yeah. Nice. 524 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,760 Hey, good mate. Ryan Kelso. 525 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,440 Ryan the king of Armada? Yep. 526 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,440 Sending in, just keeping on the Strava stuff here at the moment. 527 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,800 And the boys, imagine if Strava had an occupation section. 528 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,440 So instead of competing, competing against you know when 529 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,200 you do your segments or you're looking, it'll break it down by 530 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,320 age, sex and all of that. Give you idea occupation in 531 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,560 there. So you got to stack up against 532 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,120 your fellow colleagues. We did a run this morning with 533 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:48,920 another local run club in town, all chasing the crown on a 534 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,320 little 1.2 K segment. Currently a local builder in 535 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,360 town has it and there were another 2 this morning chasing 536 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:56,880 him down. It was absolutely hilarious. 537 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,280 The banner between the fastest builders in town. 538 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,360 This is good. This is good. 539 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:06,160 I don't know if it's I don't know if the job specific thing. 540 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,160 I don't know that hasn't clicked too much in my brain. 541 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,080 But what it Ryan's just sparked another idea that I think Strava 542 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,840 and I don't know again, I don't have premium. 543 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,680 You might already be able to do this, but I think if you're the, 544 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,000 if you've got the crown for a section, you should be able to 545 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,400 record a little Bose video. You should be able to you 546 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,600 should. You should be able to record. 547 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,800 Or a GIF where you just got your finger off that one. 548 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,440 You're #1 how? Could would that be, if you 549 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,040 could just add that little level of playability interactivity 550 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,520 with the Strava like it would be, wouldn't that motivate you a 551 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,960 little bit more if you there was a video on a segment out in the 552 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:50,480 Lorraine trails of somebody you probably know going come at me, 553 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,040 Courtney. Well, come at me. 554 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,360 Depends, mate. That could all really piss some 555 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:57,760 people off as well. Can you imagine those Annoying. 556 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,200 Yeah, that's good. Yeah. 557 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,840 For those for those who were. Competitive. 558 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,200 Yeah, I get it. Could be a bit of fun. 559 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,040 Yeah, and if you're not competitive, guess what, You're 560 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,160 probably not challenging for the crowns on Strava. 561 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,640 Well, here's a question. What can you off putting you on 562 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,320 the spot? Yeah. 563 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,720 Is it one thing Strava doesn't do that you'd like to see it to 564 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,160 do when you're running, when you finish your run? 565 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,720 I don't want to talk about premium and all of that, but 566 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,720 like, what? What else would we? 567 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,800 Want to know does Strava? And again this might be 568 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,040 available on premium, I don't know. 569 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,480 Can you change the voice? Because I think at the moment 570 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,360 you can only have male or female. 571 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,320 What? Voice. 572 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,480 Well, when you run, if you don't run off your phone, watch 573 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,200 rather. Yeah, the Strava will give you 574 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,040 announcements on as you're running. 575 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,600 Really. Yeah, you must. 576 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,600 That must be a turn on switch. Yeah, I well, I've never heard. 577 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,800 It I'd love the well, I'd love the Strava's voice to be updated 578 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,880 a little bit, just a little bit more conversational. 579 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,560 I'll give you a Siri options a few different versions. 580 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,600 I mean, this is, this goes to show where my injury's at at the 581 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,320 moment and the fact that I haven't been using Strava a lot. 582 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,560 What is it? Is there anything that it 583 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,280 doesn't do that you'd like it to use? 584 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,360 Like as a as someone who's performing at a higher level? 585 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,480 You can do this because I do run with my. 586 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,840 I do use like, for example, actually this morning I just 587 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,760 used, I didn't run long enough to warrant putting a watch on. 588 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,360 So I just held my phone and use my phone. 589 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,320 And I know you can do this. You can turn your Apple screen 590 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,120 so it doesn't turn off. But I'd like to function in 591 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,160 Strava. And again, they may be there and 592 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,240 I haven't looked into it enough, but so that when I'm on Strava, 593 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,040 my phone screen doesn't turn off. 594 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,440 So if I'm looking at like I want to run for a minute, yeah, it 595 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,840 doesn't switch off to a blank screen and I've got to 596 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,800 reactivate it again. Yeah, it's good, I think. 597 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,800 Strava, That's a. Function I, I genuinely think 598 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:48,400 Strava, the next 6 to 12 months will be almost unrecognisable 599 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,000 from what it is now. I just think the acquisition of 600 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:56,160 Runner and and however many other things that are going on 601 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,840 in the background of Strava at the moment. 602 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,040 I I think we are in a phase. We're about to see a real 603 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,480 evolution of what is a relatively straightforward basic 604 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,320 app. When you think about it, it 605 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,440 records data. What is for is brilliant. 606 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,200 Yeah, and it. Motivates people, it keeps you 607 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,920 accountable. There's so many good things 608 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,680 about it yeah I'm I'm with you. I just hope it doesn't go too 609 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:22,640 so. Here's a thought. 610 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,200 Would it go recommended runners? Would it start recommending 611 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,760 people for you to follow or would it do that? 612 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,480 No, it does that OK. There we go, see it. 613 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,240 Does that. I knew that. 614 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,000 No. Oh shit I do. 615 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,960 Should I say this in the back end? 616 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,720 I know because so there's. I just got recommended Lindsay 617 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,600 Laurie. Oh, did you? 618 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,240 Yeah, you're mate. Linds Lindsay is actually gonna 619 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,440 do the sweeping for us at Red Bull Racer Son this year. 620 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,920 Oh. Nice, I'll give him a follow. 621 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,160 Handy, handy, no. But going back to that around 622 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:55,080 the back end of it, so you'll see different things pop up on 623 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,080 what do you call it? Like on the logo where you see 624 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,920 your icon, you'll see some people have different kind of 625 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,600 coloured little arrows, some have two arrows, some have some 626 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,560 kind of funky star. So that all means something 627 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,960 within the back end to certain people, right? 628 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,960 So if you're an elite athlete, like if you're a professional, 629 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,320 like a true professional runner, you can ride into Strava and go, 630 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,320 hey, I'm got a bit of kudos on myself. 631 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,640 I'm pretty good and this is my ranking, you know, can I get 632 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,560 some? Get a free pro account and then 633 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,960 they give you the little 2O have. 634 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,480 You got one. I don't know what I'm running. 635 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,400 The reason I'm telling the story is before I got into anything 636 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,960 like that, we were doing some stuff with Strava through 637 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,600 businesses and I got this funky little star, which was I'm not a 638 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,920 pro runner, but you're like, I suppose a runner of note. 639 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,600 So the more influence Y type or people they work with and and 640 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,600 force it out. They've got this little, I 641 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,320 suppose it's like an official icon to say this is actually 642 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,760 that real person. So imagine if you went into 643 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,680 Jelly Roll and searched him. He'll have this funky little 644 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,360 star. So not an arrow. 645 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,160 And that's just to say, hey, this is. 646 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,000 This is actually, yeah. It's kind of like he's got. 647 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,080 He's got a verified tick. He's a. 648 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,880 Verified tick. Yeah, you've got. 649 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,360 What have I got? You've got, well, you've got the 650 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,720 two arrows, the, what are they called, chevrons. 651 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,720 I think I think that. The double arrow still. 652 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,920 Counting me as a pro. You've got more Strava followers 653 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,560 in Jelly Roll, just FY. Oh, do I? 654 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,600 Yeah, you've got just Strava 15,000. 655 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,520 Jelly Roll's only at 12 1/2 so. You reckon you come on the road, 656 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,320 Hold on, hold on, hold on. So hold on. 657 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,480 Are you sure that's not his club? 658 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,360 No. No, no, that's Jelly Roll, which 659 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,400 goes to show he hasn't necessarily converted that many 660 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,480 people over from his. But how many Instagram followers 661 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:38,760 you got? Oh. 662 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,560 God, I don't know, 18 or something probably similar. 663 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,440 Right, Jelly Roll's got 4.3 million. 664 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,720 Yeah, so he's got me. I gotcha. 665 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:51,000 But with with the these arrows in that for if no one's ever 666 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,280 thought about it. And you know what? 667 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,240 It's completely irrelevant too. But if you have premium, I'm 668 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,680 pretty sure it might give you 1 arrow pro runners, 2 arrows and 669 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,240 then the star are like literally hey this person's real, we 670 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,000 verified. Them. 671 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,000 Yeah, Nice. We got some loose ends. 672 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,440 Oh, you know, have we actually even got in the run sheet about 673 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,720 her running 'cause we have. Why don't you get onto your 674 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:17,800 running? And you wanna get into our 675 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,240 running now I. Wanna get into your? 676 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,560 Running. Let's get into some running then 677 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,920 I would like to. Well, I think, I mean, I hope 678 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,360 you're ready for this. I think we need to cancel the 679 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,200 podcast. Why? 680 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,040 It's gotten out of hand. All right, This has all gotten a 681 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,400 bit out of hand. OK, I, I spoke to you about this 682 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,200 the other day. I, I've now got people following 683 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,000 me on Strava and I'm not running and my running's not that 684 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,920 interesting. So the podcast that's strike 685 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:53,600 one. OK, Strike 2 is I got an email 686 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,720 from the Gold Coast Marathon the other day asking if I'd like to 687 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:05,200 participate in a photo shoot for runners for the Gold Coast 688 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,440 Marathon. That's strike two. 689 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,120 Did you say yes? Yeah, I did. 690 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,880 Oh, good. But I have you got your phone 691 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,760 handy. Yeah, I do. 692 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,400 All right, I'm going to send you a photo. 693 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:22,120 And this, this is strike three. This is for me, this is a sign 694 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,360 that this whole running business and this podcast, it's gotten 695 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,400 out of hand. It's gotten silly. 696 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:37,920 I've sent you a photo. Is that have you got two people 697 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,760 working on you? That is me at the physio the 698 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,400 other day with two people. Special treatment. 699 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,960 I joked about it on the Wednesday Gold Coast Marathon, 700 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,840 it with Benita and Bronte that I felt like a pro athlete having a 701 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,960 physio, my physio and my coach discussing me as an athlete on 702 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,360 email. I turned up for my physio 703 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,680 appointment the other day and Liam Ryan from Gold Coast Physio 704 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,120 in Burley was working on the problematic calf. 705 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,040 And all of a sudden the other calf started getting about 706 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,600 what's going on here. And Brits walked in and I 707 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,000 thought she was having a bit of a laugh, like I thought she was, 708 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,480 you know. And then she stayed there. 709 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:21,960 And so for 10 minutes at the physio during the week the other 710 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:28,640 day I had two highly qualified experts working on my crappy, 711 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,120 can't run under 3 hours 20 in a marathon legs. 712 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,280 And I thought this is embarrassing, this has gotten 713 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,080 out of hand. And then Trent, the masseuse 714 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,760 there took a photo of it. I I think we would have wrapped 715 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,600 this up. We'll put that photo up. 716 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,280 They're rolling out the red carpet for you mate, That's all 717 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,720 I hear. Do they charge a double? 718 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:48,160 I didn't. You didn't check. 719 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,080 The laugh, laugh, the last laugh might be on you. 720 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,320 Genuinely, Trent, Britt, Leo. Just just just just rewind back 721 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,640 to the photo. Shoot, yeah. 722 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,920 What? This is good? 723 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,560 This is good Gold Coast Marathon? 724 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,400 What is it like a calendar? Is it like men and women at the 725 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,200 Gold Coast Marathon? Or I got an email from I'll find 726 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:15,880 it, it's from Dylan and Dylan is in charge of marketing and some 727 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,280 other things. But I'm just trying to find his 728 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,760 email. But there's a fella I'm a. 729 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,760 Little bit upset. I'm I'm a little bit upset. 730 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,120 What that you didn't get the email? 731 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:28,520 Well, obviously. Well, you're not running mate. 732 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,920 All right, I'm. Not running so I still. 733 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,000 Think you're running? The photographer's name is and 734 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,040 I'll look him up, I think. Now it hasn't happened yet, so 735 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,840 there's every chance now that I've talked about it, I'll get 736 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,200 the arse. But Paul Harris is his name and 737 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,800 he does these. Dylan sent me a link to the 738 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:50,000 style that he does these kind of marathon profile photos. 739 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,080 When you said when you said style and profile like it's not 740 00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:57,800 like one of those nude it's. Not like the old black and 741 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,880 white. Nude. 742 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:01,160 Did you ever appear in one of those? 743 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,640 You ever been photo nude? Not that I can think, honestly. 744 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,400 We wouldn't get away with all that stuff these days, would 745 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:10,680 you? Oh no. 746 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,120 No, no, I don't mean it in that sense. 747 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,600 I mean in the idea. Of fire, firemen's, firemen, and 748 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,240 firewoman's. So this is. 749 00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:20,120 Calendar that you're appearing kind of like it's the calendar 750 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,760 of. Gold Coast, I reckon it was in 751 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,040 2000. They had the black and white 752 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,000 Olympic edition, the photography magazine, where it was like 753 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,320 Lauren Jackson was in it, Tatiana Gregorieva was in it. 754 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,160 I reckon I wasn't. Clem was in it. 755 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,120 They're all big names, OK, So they don't come down to the B 756 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,200 grade sports. Paul as a photographer and go 757 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,080 check him out. Paul Harris, photographer.com. 758 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,160 It's some cool stuff, but he's got these. 759 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,960 He's got a a series called In the Long Run, OK, and it's 760 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,880 specifically about runners. And so if you look through it, 761 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,760 Benita's in there, Rob D Costello's in there, Steve 762 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:54,800 Moneghetti's in there. They're. 763 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,640 Quite cool, yeah? And Dylan, I got the email from 764 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,160 the Golden Marathon saying, hey, would you be interested? 765 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,360 Ando's in there. Yeah, Ando from Wild Earth. 766 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,400 Shout out Ando. Yeah, so like, they're really 767 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,520 cool photos and I was looking through them and I was like, 768 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,560 hold on, what am I doing? They're gonna make you look 769 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,320 good. Well, it looks I hope so. 770 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,000 But now anyway. So my point is, I think this has 771 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:20,680 been fun, but I think it's probably time we've wrap this up 772 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,760 because this is getting silly now. 773 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,440 I I don't need to be having photo shoots or having multiple 774 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,760 professionals. So did the double car from Are 775 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,880 you running? That's more. 776 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,120 I'm running. I ran 6 as of today day of 777 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,720 recording. I ran 6 1/2 KS yesterday on the 778 00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:35,920 treadmill. Oh. 779 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,720 Treadmill. Yeah, well, because the 780 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,080 Bonita's, the training programme she set for me as I build start 781 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,840 to rebuild volume in is it's a treadmill or it's not a 782 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,120 treadmill run, but it's a run into some more endurance stuff 783 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,760 on some more cross training. I've complained on here before 784 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,600 about stationary bike riding, mate. 785 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,400 The elliptical, that sucks more. Yeah, Yeah, that's horrible. 786 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,840 Oh, so you you're not, you're not treadmilling, you're 787 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,800 elliptical. No, no, no. 788 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,200 I treadmilled into elliptical. OK, so I ran. 789 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:13,480 I was allowed to run for 35 minutes on the treadmill into 30 790 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,920 to 40 minutes cross training bike or elliptical. 791 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,360 And I'm like, I've never been on an elliptical before. 792 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:20,280 That's horrible. That's a weird feeling. 793 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,240 I didn't like that at all. Yeah, I'd much rather. 794 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:23,440 So today I went back to the bike. 795 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,640 I've never done elliptical so. Done. 796 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,840 Very weird. I couldn't actually. 797 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,120 I like. Treadmill. 798 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,440 I actually love treadmill. Yeah, the same reason. 799 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,240 The same reason I like doing the stationary bike stuff when it's 800 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:36,640 about just getting the work done. 801 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,360 Yeah, I hate just sitting there for the sake of it. 802 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,360 I'd much rather be outside. But the treadmill, you can get 803 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,880 some really good sessions done on that. 804 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,520 So I did 6 KS at 510 pace with a bit of a warm up and then a slow 805 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,800 down obviously. But yeah, and calf feels fine. 806 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,360 Calf feels good. The double massage from from 807 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,600 Britt and Liam worked the treat. It was funny though, they 808 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,640 started getting competitive. Like as soon as Britt started 809 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,880 working on my right calf, Liam started pushing harder on my 810 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,160 left guard and I was like, what are you doing? 811 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,680 So very competitive in the physio world but. 812 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:04,920 You're doing strength work. Strength work. 813 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:10,320 So the strength training is at the gym on days at the moment. 814 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,600 I'm not running back to back days. 815 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,720 OK. It's days off in between, but 816 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:17,360 the strength training, the heavy stuff at the gym is on the Smith 817 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,720 machine. For those that don't know, it's 818 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:22,000 kind of the automated thing that you see people doing squats and 819 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,720 all that sort of stuff. Squat, but it's not free 820 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:27,880 weights. I am doing a forward lunge front 821 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:33,360 like pushing up on that Smith machine with the back leg and 822 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,080 then I'm doing some kind of plyometric. 823 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,040 Is it plyometric holds the pushing hard basically I'm 824 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,120 locking that Smith machine into place so that I can push against 825 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,520 it as hard as I want. It won't move to kind of tensing 826 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,160 that muscle isometric isometric that might be the word isometric 827 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:55,960 holds and then on basically every day at home is car phrases 828 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,200 single knee, straight leg, bent knee just that that that that. 829 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,680 Isn't it, they'll just jump on those names, isn't it, because 830 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,880 we might have got them wrong as well? 831 00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:09,160 Isn't it funny? Like all the terminology, like 832 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,840 in every industry's got it. But all the terminology that, 833 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,280 you know, the people in the know, Yeah. 834 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,720 You just, you're, you're taking on that information just as this 835 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:18,760 is what I do. Yeah. 836 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,440 Like I can't really explain it. And I think it's interesting 837 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,560 because like if you, you know, we talk to a physio or someone 838 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,240 else, like I love it when they when the information comes in 839 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,000 our terms. Yeah. 840 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,320 It's like, So what is it? Oh, you know, when you it's 841 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,240 just, it's a stationary hold. Yeah. 842 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,520 I don't really care what what the name of it is. 843 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,320 I just need to know how to do it. 844 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,880 It may be why I'm doing it. Often I like to know why to a 845 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,600 degree, but some people might just. 846 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,720 Want to do it? Well, I'm the opposite. 847 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:44,200 I'm just like, well, just tell me what I need to do. 848 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,320 I don't need to understand it. So basically the running is 849 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,600 slowly coming back. Although I tell you what, after 850 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,880 six, after 35 minutes of running on the treadmill, I kind of 851 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,560 went, oh boy, a marathon seems really hard right now. 852 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,240 It seemed tough. It is a long way for 35 minutes. 853 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,920 How's your injury going? How's your return to running? 854 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,040 All going well, I mean, very mine. 855 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,720 Up to 9 weeks now. He said nine weeks. 856 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:08,480 No, but I'm running. You're running. 857 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,760 I ran this morning. What'd you run? 858 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,480 I ran for 15 minutes and I did one minute jog, but I was 859 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,400 actually moving and pretty OK one minute and then 30 seconds 860 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:25,280 walk for 15 minutes, right? The first two days ago I started 861 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,920 with 30 seconds jog, 30 seconds walk and that was awful. 862 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,080 My knee in all, all things my knees because I haven't done a 863 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,280 lot of like I haven't done much weight bearing stuff and I've 864 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,040 done a bit of activation stuff to get me ready to do this. 865 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,560 Yeah, but my knees, well, it was my it was awful. 866 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:48,120 Today felt like a new person. So like it, the muscles, just 867 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,040 everything. I mean, I would do also do some 868 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,520 single leg squats and a few things to kind of like my knees 869 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,080 are hurting. I better get them sorted pretty 870 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,240 quick, but what I was doing when I was running like 15 minutes 871 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,960 running seems nothing cry but that 30 seconds break only felt 872 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,960 started to feel like I was actually getting, you know, the 873 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,360 heart rate up a little bit and that and I think I got excited. 874 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,240 Oh. What pace do you reckon? 875 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,280 I went for 15 minutes doing walk jogs. 876 00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:15,000 So you're running for a minute at a time. 877 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,760 A minute, minute on, 30 seconds, 30 seconds off. 878 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,120 Well, I mean, I hope I I would have guessed before you told me 879 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,640 you got excited that you were running at about 4:30 pace. 880 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,360 I mean, but for the whole thing, including the walks, what do you 881 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,800 mean 430? You're not gonna get through 882 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,960 walking. Hold four 30s doing 1 minutes 883 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,560 and then 30 seconds. No, in my head you're running 884 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,760 those 1 minutes at 4:30. I don't know. 885 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,200 I just saw her at the end of 15 minutes. 886 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,280 I'd averaged five 20s and I'm like, oops. 887 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:47,400 That's way too fast, yeah. Yeah, that, that's what I 888 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,560 thought. Way too fast. 889 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,960 Yeah. I thought you'd be like running 890 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,000 the runs at 4:30 and then walking the walks at like 12 891 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,600 minutes, I felt. Not like that on Monday, but I 892 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,000 don't know what happened today, but I've got to, I've got to 893 00:43:59,000 --> 00:43:59,600 settle down. That's. 894 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,600 Way too fast even I know that. But you know what, I'll, I'll 895 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,920 say I won't get in to go back through everything that's 896 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,680 happened in, in what we're doing, but I'm only going to be 897 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,240 running every second day for the foreseeable future with cross 898 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:11,360 training. We're going to get really 899 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,080 conservative on the the progression on that. 900 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,840 However, I just want to reiterate with everyone because 901 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,480 I did this with my calves in my recent kind of last year as 902 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,000 well. Walk jogging for those when 903 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,240 you're coming back and you think it's a cop out. 904 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,120 I would never do it doesn't even even if I just had a month off 905 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,760 because I went on a, a boat for a month and I couldn't run on a 906 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,280 holiday, I'd come back and I would start with walk running. 907 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,440 I sorry, walk jogging. I back in when I'd get injured 908 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,600 or have niggles or whatever. Back in triathlon days. 909 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,360 I would never, ever go through this phase. 910 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,840 Only if you were like super injured, but I think anyone 911 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,040 coming back from a time off or even if you just haven't been 912 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,000 running a lot or if. You're about to start or. 913 00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:01,080 Starting this is as far as I'm concerned, it's the only way and 914 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,400 I've learnt this in the last few years. 915 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,680 Why? Why is it? 916 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,320 Why is it such a good way to return to running, get into 917 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,760 running, return to running from an injury or a layoff? 918 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,600 Multiple, multiple reasons. Well, the key one is by doing 919 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,120 the the walk between it, you're just giving yourself that little 920 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,240 bit of rest. So you're playing on the 921 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,800 conservative side. But also what it also allows you 922 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,560 to do is say this morning, the minute by minute, it gives you a 923 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,840 real clear indication of when you're getting tired or when 924 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,760 you're starting to overdo it or that muscles getting tired or 925 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,160 your knees or whatever else it is when you're just running. 926 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,040 Like the other way I could do it is go, let's just run 10 minutes 927 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,440 this morning and do it continuous. 928 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,680 The problem with that is your form falls apart. 929 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,360 If you haven't been running and you're not used to it and my 930 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,920 knees are starting to hurt, your form's going to start to fall 931 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,520 apart. You're probably going to run 932 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,440 less. But by the end of that, you 933 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,440 probably may be doing more detrimental, like it's more 934 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,880 detrimental to you actually getting back because your hips 935 00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,040 drop. Everything goes, you're getting 936 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,760 tight when you just take that little bit of a walk between 937 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,680 everything as a you just perk up again and you can go and go and 938 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,080 go. And then you know, and I know 939 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,840 once we get into this further and further, once I start 940 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,080 building that out, that that walk jog, like even when I get 941 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,360 back to running normally, if I was to even be able to go out 942 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,600 and run 90 minutes, I reckon I'll still throw in a minute 943 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:26,680 walk every 20 minutes or so. Wow, that idea of I had. 944 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,240 And that's just my that's just me learning on coming back from 945 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:31,480 a few of these things over the year. 946 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,720 I will in my long runs still put a bit of a walk in the initial 947 00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:39,440 phases when I get back, even running up to like 607090 948 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,800 minutes. That's really interesting 949 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,200 because I mean, we've heard bananas preached it and I've 950 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,400 heard so many people talk about walk running and you talk about 951 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,520 taking people's terminology like physios, isometric, plyometric 952 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,600 stuff. I have, I have when I've talked 953 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,160 to people in the office who said who, I've said, oh, why don't 954 00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,800 you come for a run? They're like, Oh no, I can't 955 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,200 run. I couldn't run 5K when I'm like, 956 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,800 don't have to like start. I've told people to start with a 957 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,680 walk run only because in my mind the only rationale was because 958 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,080 it's easier. Yeah, but I haven't thought 959 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,760 about. Well, it allows you to maintain 960 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,200 proper running form. Yeah, and, and it seems like a 961 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,320 cop out, like you just want to get back to running. 962 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,960 Like I would always load up and progress. 963 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,240 So I might go 10 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next day, 964 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:26,920 have a day off, 20 minutes, thirty minutes, have a day off. 965 00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:30,160 But I would always do it in I've got to run. 966 00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:33,800 And this this in the last few years is coming back from a few 967 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,600 things. This walk jog or walk run idea 968 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,160 is a game changer for me. Absolutely game changer. 969 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,200 There might be a lot of people out there have gone about that 970 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,120 anyway, but I'm sure there's a few like me who in the past are 971 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,960 just gone, always putting, you know, always doing the maximum, 972 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,280 trying to go well, I want to run more. 973 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,160 I want to run more. Here's a comparison for the 974 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,360 musicians listening. OK, it's a lot learning scales 975 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,640 before playing the full song. Yep, like playing it. 976 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,000 That's why I guess when you've when I used to learn piano, 977 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,160 you'd sit down and go, awesome, I want to learn that song. 978 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,280 You'd teach go. No, you're going to learn 979 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,240 scales. Oh, well, I have to learn scales 980 00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:08,640 so you can play a song. Yep. 981 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,920 But can't you just teach me the song? 982 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,120 No, I've got to teach the scales first. 983 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:11,680 Yeah. Yeah. 984 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,040 There you go. Brilliant, you know. 985 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,880 What I reckon that is a good time to wrap up because we're 986 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,960 both running, everything's good. We're back. 987 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,200 We're running for everybody out there as well. 988 00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:25,720 The the followers, the listeners continue to climb for the 989 00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:27,680 podcast. 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