In the beginning, episode 35, it wasn't as clean as I'd like to
to have been. How are you mate?
I'm. Going to have one too.
It's been a long day. It's been a long day in the
build up to this. We got running to talk about.
We got some top. The top running songs have been
identified. A bit of a Strava deep dive's
been done. We'll get to those in a SEC
first. I think we've been doing a
pretty good job of light of dipping our toe into other
sports that we are not experts in, especially me.
You're an Olympian, you're qualified to talk about some of
this stuff. As you can tell by my hat, I was
at the Gold Coast Pro during well, what's going on?
We both. I know, I know that Liam,
because I was there with you. So thank you.
We both were. We were hanging out down there
in those awesome Red Bull best seats on the point.
Yep, set up that they had down there which were the best seats
on the point which. Were better than the VIP area.
So much so that we ended up awkwardly being stuck in the
back of shot on the broadcast for every surfers, coach and
team that came into the area because it wasn't meant to be
the place for the surfers, coaches and teams to necessarily
hang out and direct them from it.
Wasn't. And so they told me in the end
that the crew from Red Bull told me that was set up for actually
like an activation for spectators to come down and like
best seats in the house. Just pull someone out of the
crowd and go, hey, instead of sitting on the rocks, come up
here, have a drink, have a bit of food on us.
But what it turned into, because of the way they were surfing,
the point, the surfers were down further than they normally would
be. So from the actual proper
athlete area and coach's area, they couldn't see the surf
properly. Hence, we ended up in the
coach's box. So we say, if you can for people
out there that don't quite understand what we're saying, if
you imagine a tennis tournament and you see the camera cut to
the coach's box and you often see Nick Kyrgios and the likes
yelling at their coach's box, The what we were sitting in was
the surfers equivalent of that. So and as these heats finished,
the coaches and the, you know, team of each surfer would walk
out and then the next heat, coaches and team would walk in.
And it just looked like you and I were, I don't know, dagging
over every team that walked in. Like the Brazil.
We were part of the Brazilian team for a while.
Girlfriends, boyfriends included and.
You and I there the whole time. Anyway, we're hanging out there.
It was awesome and then the VIP section above Bill Pavilion was
good fun too. What I wanted to get through
though, the event itself was moved there because Snapper, the
ex tropical cyclone had wiped away the bank at Snapper and it
wasn't going to hold up to the WSLS needs for the surfing comp.
That event at Burleigh was awesome.
That was so good. That was that was incredible.
It was a. Perfect spot to have the actual
event, but I know you're going to go where.
The surf is which brings to my next question.
Where should it be next year? Berly, you go, so you go.
This is the way I'm phrasing this question.
Is athlete over audience or audience over athlete cause for
the spectators, Berly's better I.
Guess the surfers are going to say go back to snapper 100%.
It's a better surf for the event and for spectators.
And the way it turned out and it was even pretty ordinary weather
over the weekend, it was still good.
Can you imagine if it was like a Bluebird four or five days they
got as well. That's amazing.
I mean. 10,000 people down there on the final.
Day and Burley's only gonna get like by next year, the train or
the tram or the G link or whatever you want to call it
probably goes down to Burley. That place is gonna be, you
know, it'll be two packed. OK.
So next year you even if the bank is ready to go back at
Snapper next year, you would still hold the event at Burley
because of what the event site and the atmosphere that it
depends. Depends what hat I've got on
mate. I think for.
Right now you've got your In the Beginning podcast hat on Burley.
So 'cause I spoke to some people from the WSLIP spoke to some
people from Experience Gold Coast and it'll go back to
Snapper next year. But the challenge they face is
how to recreate. I think it's kind of a win win
because they get to go back to the better way, which will be
Snapper. But now they can see what an
event site should look like on the Gold Coast.
So they now have the challenge to recreate that burly heads
event site at Snapper. Next question 2032 Olympics
Where should the surfing be held?
Snapper. There you go, backflipped for
the Olympic Games. I'd want to see it in the best
surf. This is so interesting because
my head is the other way. I think the WSL should be back
at snapper next year, but I think for the Olympics it should
be at Burley. Now you say what?
I'm completely the opposite because for the Olympics I want
the best surf, best chance. It's about 100% about the
competition. OK, WSL, yes, it's about the
competition for the surfers. And here we are talking like
Sir, we know what surfers think but but.
But the surf is considered the snapper.
The better way, 100%. It's on its day.
It's the best way. Well, however, when you take
into year on year the fact that it created that style of event
because the reason there's multiple reasons why you come to
a location when you bring an international event to a
location. And what Burly proved on the
weekend or over the last few weekends is that it is by far a
better location to bring people in.
Now here's where I argue a little bit around the type of
people that get down there because hey, heavy surf crew who
love watch surfing are gonna go no matter what.
Now, where you could put, you could put it down at Kingscliff
and they're still gonna rock up. You could put it in Byron,
they're still gonna rock up. Put it at Bloody 1770 with no
surf, they're still gonna rock up.
But however, what you did by moving it to Burley was I think
you brought a new kind of, let's say the locals especially.
I think you got a lot more locals down there that normally
wouldn't go down to snapper, including myself.
Here's why I say that. Red Bull obviously heavily
involved in WSL. The skis, like we talked about
how we're up in the athletes. You've got that, You've got that
individual surfers that you sponsored, Yeah.
This has been going on for as long as I've been around the
business. Yeah.
I've never been to Snapper to watch.
I've never been for the simple reason.
Well, yeah, yeah, just. It's not a.
Convenient spot. It's not a convenient spot to
get to further away from me. Burly's easier.
It's only going to get easier, hence why I say I I don't want
barely any busier either as a local, but when we're bringing
in an international event there, that is the place.
But but at an Olympic level, as an Olympian, you want whatever
the arena is, whether it's the wave, the track, the road, you
want it set up so that the athletes can they've got the
best chance to compete. Yeah, and I also know how the
Olympics works. They're gonna try and sell
tickets, so they'll create the grandstand, they'll create it'll
be bigger than WSL in the sense of they'll create the needs to
ticket it to watch it in a way that I I don't think they would
allow surfing to be completely free.
Oh. There you go.
Because of the style I like, this is a bold prediction.
Because of the style of the point, they're gonna sell
tickets to be able to watch it. And I'm not saying you can't go
halfway, you know, say they rented at Burley.
I'm not saying you couldn't go and stand on the beach at Burley
and watch it from afar. Yeah, but I guarantee you.
Actually, I can't guarantee anything.
I'm not in that position to guarantee it, but I was.
I would if it would be in my mind that that whole area would
be ticketed for the Olympics and limited.
This is. So why after then is the place
to do it? Because you're ticketed.
You get there, you don't have to fight the crowds it you just get
there and it's gonna be limited on how you can.
Watch it. And the very notion of that is
so anti surfing that idea that you might restrict it.
Olympics is anti surfing. That, but that's what I mean.
But I think, well, so the Olympics I'm.
Gonna get shot down for saying that, but like, it's the new age
of the Olympics, right? But I mean, they ran an
Olympics. What's I mean, take it to the
extreme Paris the surface went to.
Was in Chopu, in Chopu in Tahiti and another country on the other
side they were. Halfway around the other side of
the world for their Olympic Games and you know, if hey, it's
the best way in the world. It was French and everything
else. But the fact is when you're
talking about Olympic Games and athletes wanting to be part of
the Olympics and around the Olympics, I think I would go,
I've never heard of a a sport that was as far away from the
Olympics as that. I'm just having interesting
because the most recent Olympics, as you say, Chopu now
spectators not ticketing for spectators.
Not a drama there. You either have a boat you can
get into the channel or you can't, right?
They they didn't have that problem.
I'm just having a bit of a quick Google of Surigasaki beach in
Japan is where the surfing was held for the Japan Olympics.
Now I'm not sure what that I've never been there.
I don't really know what the setup would have been like, but
snapper if it isn't, it should be the location for the surfing
for Prison 2032. What I mean by it's that's very
anti surfing is what makes the WSL event and other surfing
events great When you go down there is that you can walk out
and basically stand in shin deep, knee deep water and almost
reach out and touch the surface as they cut catch the way from
behind the rock and all the rest of that.
So the idea that the IOC might come in and go so righto, well,
the beach is closed here. The beach is closed all the way
around to, I don't know, Rainbow.
Unless you've got a ticket, it'll be it'll be a real moment.
We're we're guessing, I'm guessing.
No, no, no. It's a fun I mean.
If you think about when Commonwealth Games was on the
beach, volleyball was down at Kira, I mean, it was you.
You can't just go and watch it. It's a ticketed event into a
grandstand. It's gonna be fun.
This, this is. I enjoy this, but I also like
the take that Olympics performance matters more.
Yep. And the A4.
It should that 2032 should be at snapper.
But from a major event perspective, Bailey's the
location. Bailey was great.
It's good. It's good.
Let's take into some running, mate.
I found this post and I wanna as soon as I saw it and before we
get into it, are you when you're up in the trails, I know you
don't have headphones in sometimes.
Well, sometimes. What do you listen to?
Well, I either listen to a podcast, a long podcast and I'm
happy to run to that, or I listen to just music.
And the way I do it, I get into Spotify, I select a a generally
a song that I like and then I'll just put on the radio.
So you have that that kind of. Like you let the algorithm
decide. Yeah, I'll just let it decide,
find some new songs. Like at the moment I've gone
into, I'm doing a lot of what's it called, Triple J, like
Aversions. Yep, some of them I hate, some
of them I like. But you know what it's it's all
variety and new songs that I probably haven't heard.
So that's where I'm at at the moment.
What about? You cause I've, yeah, well, I'm,
I'm a if I run with my phone, I'll listen to a podcast if I
don't run with my phone and I've just got my watch, I've got,
I've only got 1 playlist preloaded onto my watch, which
is a hip hop playlist. So it's not curated.
It's, well, it's, I think it's Spotify curated it for me when I
uploaded it. Yeah, and now I haven't changed
it, so I probably should. But the idea of man making a
playlist to run to, I don't know if I can be bothered.
Like that's kind of my attitude towards it a bit.
Well, that's why the radio function works so well.
You pick it, you know, at the time, you know, week to week,
different songs. My tickle, you fancy.
And I'm like, oh, that song today, I feel like that.
And then just hit the radio and you'll just get spammed with all
the same songs. And I think I'm contractually
obliged to say don't forget about the Listener app, which is
which is the company I work for. Hey.
Please, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna let I'm gonna let you have a bit
of a spiel here because I want you to explain to me.
Yeah. Listener app because who is it?
The podcaster. How he how he, how he games
Listener. Yep.
Always advertised Listener come to listener come to listener.
So. So this is the listen listener
is is like is some IP that the company I work for a Southern
Cross Australia created. They made it, they built this
player and it's essentially I mean, for lack of a better
comparison, it's Spotify, OK, but the difference is that it is
they own the IP of it. It's where they stream all their
radio shows, so you can live stream.
So for people that more and more the radio cars are more adapted,
you know, listening through this sort of stuff now.
So as digital radio grows, this is listener is SE as way of
keeping pace and moving forward and showing.
So you kinda like on demand TV stations yes for radio yeah, but
they've also got podcasts added in there.
Exactly. They've got their suite of
podcasts, all the podcasts they've licenced from overseas.
You've got specific radio. So if you're into country music,
there's a triple M country. If you're into 80s there's all
that sort of hey, it makes sense you got channel 7 channel
channel 7 plus that's exactly what domain perfect.
So anyway, I found this post though it's come from Track
House which has great Instagram account if you love your
running. And what they've done is they
got 500 runners to tell them their favourite songs to run
through, and then they've basically condensed them down to
a top five S 500 runners is a sample size and these are the
top five tracks that people run to from this survey.
So let's start with #5A song I had never heard before.
That is, I like that. So it's by Eagles of Death
Metal, which the band I've heard of, but it's called Miss Alyssa
and apparently it was part of a famous Nike ad in 2014.
Yeah, I I hadn't heard that song.
It says the the comment is you'll feel like you're in a
movie while racing a middle aged mum in a park run.
Maybe enough people have run around Nike and got Nike stuff.
They've heard it. That's over and over.
When you hear the rest of this list.
This would be American, I'm assuming.
Yeah, probably when you hear the rest of this list, I think
there's that that is a this list is a big tick for Nike.
The fact that a song from a Nike ad has managed to cut through.
Because the rest of them, I think people will know coming in
#4 Goldie, I mean, do you find the set of stairs?
Do you play? It How often do you play this?
Survive Eye the Tiger on the show, on the radio station.
Yeah, yeah, I reckon I used to play it more.
I used to play it more when we're in Brisbane now that the
moon, Gold Coast Breakfast, probably not as much, but yeah.
Eye the Tiger by Survivor, 1980, That song's older than me. 1982
that song came out on Good song anyway #3.
You gotta wait for this one to Rev up.
This is the. I did a lot of running to this.
Really. Yeah, yeah, I remember this one.
Florence and the machine dog days are over.
I mean, I've only got the start here, but it it ramps up, this
would be a good build song. You know, like if you're doing
1K reps or something and you want to bring it home.
That's nice. OK, number two more much more
recent song. Come on in.
Let's. Go straight up.
It's a good running straight up can't hold us.
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis. OK, I want that one.
That's good running time and then.
Did this surprise your number one?
Yes, it did, you know. No, because I don't.
OK so I came across the reason I know this.
I wouldn't know any for any other reason.
Then it was a what was the Netflix show with There was this
that all the kids, the kids in the house all had superpowers.
One of them was like an ape ape style X-Men.
This is gonna do my head in now for the rest of the show.
Hold on. It's a Netflix show.
A Netflix show? Kids have superpowers.
Yep. In a house?
Yep. And their dad.
Grazing down Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children.
No, that one too. Anyway, someone will tell us.
Extraordinary, no? We can be heroes.
No, I'm gonna find it in a minute, but that Umbrella
Academy, Umbrella Academy here, we got there, we got there, and
we probably just lost half out. But yeah, how's the rule?
Things, yeah, no, we didn't cause 'cause I guarantee people
were running along going Umbrella Academy, Umbrella
Academy. Yes, so it was in their
soundtracks, OK And they had a good soundtrack for their first
series, so. I've never seen it, but the song
is called Run Boy, Run by Woodkid.
Run Boy, Run This world all is not meant for you.
Run by run. They're trying to catch you.
Run by running. Running is a victory.
Run by running. You realise behind the heels.
I hate it, I hate it. I hate it.
So do I hate it. That's that.
I'd never I, I deliberately. I knew I hadn't heard the song
so I avoided it since I sent you the post.
That's a horrible song to run to.
Well, you get you going. It's got to it's got to be the
but you know why I reckon it's the most popular run boy run.
So if you type in anything to do with running Oh, if you search
running songs, run anything to do with.
That it automatically just resonance?
Run, boy, run. There you go.
That's clever. So I don't think they were
thinking about. No, no.
Well, well, hold on. Maybe there's an opportunity for
us here to come up with a song and make it #1 we just call it
Run Faster. Running, just running.
I'm running. It was a huge part of that
Umbrella Academy. Anyway, there are the, there are
the top five songs to run to according to to track house and
the survey. They've done good.
I like track house. Again, if if you love your
running stuff, underscore, track house Underscore is the account.
And yeah, it's a, it's a really great account just for, for
running pop culture stuff. Yep, let's move on.
Welcome to Wrexham. Have you watched it?
Oh yeah, 100%. They're coming to town.
Well, that that's why I've got it on the show this week.
That's why I'm talking about it. So welcome to Rex.
And if you haven't heard about it on Disney.
Yeah, they're so soccer team. Yeah.
Done a little bit of background. So they are the wait.
Well, let's go from the beginning.
All purchased by the Hollywood stars.
Ryan Reynolds And who's Here we go.
This will be fun. Rob.
Say your surname. Rob Mcelhaney.
You're close, Mcelhenny. Does he say it like that?
Yeah. OK, so they purchased this team
for 2.5 million U.S. dollars and it I just saw yesterday, whether
it's right or wrong, about 400 mil it's worth now.
Yeah. So it's not a bad investment.
It is as a soccer club, football club.
It is. It was formed in 1864 and it's
the oldest club in Wales and the third oldest professional
football team in the world. It's cool.
Cool story, cool. Story and if you haven't watched
the doco, it's easy to go back and it's such a great it's such
a well produced sports documentary.
I think sports doco's and we've talked a bit about last dance
and Sprint and all these other ones and Drive to survive there
has they've they've almost become a bit formulaic like as
in they start to Drive to survive started it and now
they've done a G1 and then they did a tennis.
One then, well, I'm watching. I'm watching NASCAR at the
moment. Is it similar, exactly the same.
I think Welcome to Wrexham is unique because I've got a story.
It's a different, it's a different format and I and I
really like it. So if you're looking for a bit
of a freshen up on the sports docko, Welcome to Wrexham
recommend it. Well, it's got AI mean there's
two stories in one. So you've got the usual sports
story like you get in Formula One, NASCAR, whatever it is of a
club or a team or a driver striving to get through the
leagues and all every week on eight week, what goes on?
Then you've got this secondary kind of of these Hollywood
owners creating tourism for the town, creating the club and what
they're going through and the struggles and everything else of
actually owning a football team. So it's amazing.
It's a great documentary. And and the other part of that
is the news this week that they are now going to come down here
in the in the offseason or pre season or they.
Are so they're going to play Melbourne Victory, Sydney FC and
then Wellington, Wellington Phoenix.
I'm Do you watch a league? No, no, I'm not sure who does
the A league. We we don't have, we shouldn't
say that soccer soccer's the biggest, one of the biggest, if
not they big, biggest participation ports still here
in Australia. I know my daughter plays soccer.
I played soccer growing up. I love the sport.
The A league has an identity problem and I don't, we don't
have time to unpack it today. Yeah, I will just quickly say
this. It's not in the the NBL can be
seen as a feeder league. You can launch from the NBL and
go on to greater things. The next Stars generation
programme that I've set up is really, really smart, really
astute. The A League has an identity
problem in that if you're any good, a lot of football, as
young football's coming through, if you're any good, you're off
to an Academy system by the time you're 16, right overseas
somewhere. And then if you become any good
later on in life, you then go or, or you age out of those
elite leagues over in Europe. Yeah.
Now there's so much money in the Middle East and Asia that why
would you come back here and play it's.
I just think the A League has a as an identity problem as to
what they represent as a league. They they have the same problem
majority of European based sports, professional sports have
here in Australia. So think of cycling.
Let's bring it back a little bit to insurance.
Yeah, cycling has the same issue.
If you're going to make it in cycling, you're in Europe.
So even as a young, you know, a younger guy, yeah, you come
through the ranks in Australia, but as soon as you're good
enough, you'll be signed to some feeder team, some team in
Europe. You want to race in Europe, you
want to get experience in Europe.
And even triathlon at an Olympic level, that's happened to that
because all the Olympic Games stuff is driven out of Europe.
If you're going to make it, you've got to be in Europe.
And what that does is it when you want your offseason, you're
generally back here in Australia, and I think that's
the same thing. With Peter Benita talked a bit
about this on some of the marathon EPS we've been doing
about the fact that she was basically living over in Europe
for most of her career. Yeah, I mean, and it's, it's a
long haul to think I've got to come back and forth, you know,
if you're in Asia, no stress. Yeah.
And then and then certain comps are in America too, but Europe's
pretty it's. Great news that Rex's been
coming to town, though. Yep.
And would you go? Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, it was. So we just said we don't watch a
league, No, don't watch soccer. But I want to go to, I want to
go to this too. It's a show.
To drag it back to running. Yep.
It's the experience, yeah, it's the event.
It's the notion that if you said to a lot of people, hey go run
21K, it's like no get stuff. Would you buy merch to go just
to feel like you're part of it? Yep.
But the as as I get older and
I'm not that old, but as I get older, I'm starting to, I'm,
I've hit a point in my life where I can see where like if
you're going to do something, just go in on it.
Like if, what's the point in dipping your toe half into
something? And that doesn't mean you know
you have to become an obsessive about everything you do.
But if you're going to go to one of these games, why wouldn't you
pie a bit? Why wouldn't you throw yourself
in blind? Like just all in, In for a
penny, in for a pound. Yep.
I reckon these are going to be hot tickets so you'd probably
want to get in early. If not, that's if they're on
sale. They're probably gone.
Red Bull sponsoring anybody? They get, they do have a few
soccer teams and I think they got Wrexham, yeah.
So I'm. Talking about getting sold and
talking about getting. Let's get back to a bit more
running. Timothy McDonald sent us a
message. Say that to.
You know, we've all we've talked about Strava premium and you're
not having it. Didn't realise this.
He he said suggestion just get Strava premium friends and
family plan. You can get four people for 12
month plan for a dollar $1.50 a 150 bucks.
I had no idea this was even an offering.
Either did I. Strava do a premium friends and
family plan. Probably should have done a spot
check on this but I'll miss you. Like Tim, I trust you.
And that makes me think now, Liam, like why wouldn't you just
go in with four mates and split? The costs, So what?
And you're paying 40 bucks a year.
Oh on 50 bucks? Subscribers on a family plan pay
$140.00 a year plus applicable taxes.
Da da da da da. So it says only a family plan,
not family and friends. I mean, they're not gonna know
who your friends are, are they? Updated subscription prices.
Subscribers on a family plan for Australia pay $170 a year.
Now what that involves I'm not sure, but that's interesting.
I didn't I didn't know there was a family plan for a start.
But if that covers 4 of you, Yep, then yeah, that's.
Really hot, hot tip on that one from from Tim.
I maintain I'm I'm doubling down on that Strava prediction I made
about usability for non premium users by the end of the year.
I think it's going to accelerate.
I think by September, by the time we hit peak running season,
it's going to be tough to use Strava unless you're on premium.
I mean, I'm thinking of a birthday present for you, Liam,
already. And I've got it.
And it's like it's a give me, but I'm not.
You're gonna put me on. But I'm also thinking, yeah,
yeah, yeah. To make it real cheap.
I was gonna buy you one, but now I know this.
Yeah. Nice.
Hey, good mate. Ryan Kelso.
Ryan the king of Armada? Yep.
Sending in, just keeping on the Strava stuff here at the moment.
And the boys, imagine if Strava had an occupation section.
So instead of competing, competing against you know when
you do your segments or you're looking, it'll break it down by
age, sex and all of that. Give you idea occupation in
there. So you got to stack up against
your fellow colleagues. We did a run this morning with
another local run club in town, all chasing the crown on a
little 1.2 K segment. Currently a local builder in
town has it and there were another 2 this morning chasing
him down. It was absolutely hilarious.
The banner between the fastest builders in town.
This is good. This is good.
I don't know if it's I don't know if the job specific thing.
I don't know that hasn't clicked too much in my brain.
But what it Ryan's just sparked another idea that I think Strava
and I don't know again, I don't have premium.
You might already be able to do this, but I think if you're the,
if you've got the crown for a section, you should be able to
record a little Bose video. You should be able to you
should. You should be able to record.
Or a GIF where you just got your finger off that one.
You're #1 how? Could would that be, if you
could just add that little level of playability interactivity
with the Strava like it would be, wouldn't that motivate you a
little bit more if you there was a video on a segment out in the
Lorraine trails of somebody you probably know going come at me,
Courtney. Well, come at me.
Depends, mate. That could all really piss some
people off as well. Can you imagine those Annoying.
Yeah, that's good. Yeah.
For those for those who were. Competitive.
Yeah, I get it. Could be a bit of fun.
Yeah, and if you're not competitive, guess what, You're
probably not challenging for the crowns on Strava.
Well, here's a question. What can you off putting you on
the spot? Yeah.
Is it one thing Strava doesn't do that you'd like to see it to
do when you're running, when you finish your run?
I don't want to talk about premium and all of that, but
like, what? What else would we?
Want to know does Strava? And again this might be
available on premium, I don't know.
Can you change the voice? Because I think at the moment
you can only have male or female.
What? Voice.
Well, when you run, if you don't run off your phone, watch
rather. Yeah, the Strava will give you
announcements on as you're running.
Really. Yeah, you must.
That must be a turn on switch. Yeah, I well, I've never heard.
It I'd love the well, I'd love the Strava's voice to be updated
a little bit, just a little bit more conversational.
I'll give you a Siri options a few different versions.
I mean, this is, this goes to show where my injury's at at the
moment and the fact that I haven't been using Strava a lot.
What is it? Is there anything that it
doesn't do that you'd like it to use?
Like as a as someone who's performing at a higher level?
You can do this because I do run with my.
I do use like, for example, actually this morning I just
used, I didn't run long enough to warrant putting a watch on.
So I just held my phone and use my phone.
And I know you can do this. You can turn your Apple screen
so it doesn't turn off. But I'd like to function in
Strava. And again, they may be there and
I haven't looked into it enough, but so that when I'm on Strava,
my phone screen doesn't turn off.
So if I'm looking at like I want to run for a minute, yeah, it
doesn't switch off to a blank screen and I've got to
reactivate it again. Yeah, it's good, I think.
Strava, That's a. Function I, I genuinely think
Strava, the next 6 to 12 months will be almost unrecognisable
from what it is now. I just think the acquisition of
Runner and and however many other things that are going on
in the background of Strava at the moment.
I I think we are in a phase. We're about to see a real
evolution of what is a relatively straightforward basic
app. When you think about it, it
records data. What is for is brilliant.
Yeah, and it. Motivates people, it keeps you
accountable. There's so many good things
about it yeah I'm I'm with you. I just hope it doesn't go too
so. Here's a thought.
Would it go recommended runners? Would it start recommending
people for you to follow or would it do that?
No, it does that OK. There we go, see it.
Does that. I knew that.
No. Oh shit I do.
Should I say this in the back end?
I know because so there's. I just got recommended Lindsay
Laurie. Oh, did you?
Yeah, you're mate. Linds Lindsay is actually gonna
do the sweeping for us at Red Bull Racer Son this year.
Oh. Nice, I'll give him a follow.
Handy, handy, no. But going back to that around
the back end of it, so you'll see different things pop up on
what do you call it? Like on the logo where you see
your icon, you'll see some people have different kind of
coloured little arrows, some have two arrows, some have some
kind of funky star. So that all means something
within the back end to certain people, right?
So if you're an elite athlete, like if you're a professional,
like a true professional runner, you can ride into Strava and go,
hey, I'm got a bit of kudos on myself.
I'm pretty good and this is my ranking, you know, can I get
some? Get a free pro account and then
they give you the little 2O have.
You got one. I don't know what I'm running.
The reason I'm telling the story is before I got into anything
like that, we were doing some stuff with Strava through
businesses and I got this funky little star, which was I'm not a
pro runner, but you're like, I suppose a runner of note.
So the more influence Y type or people they work with and and
force it out. They've got this little, I
suppose it's like an official icon to say this is actually
that real person. So imagine if you went into
Jelly Roll and searched him. He'll have this funky little
star. So not an arrow.
And that's just to say, hey, this is.
This is actually, yeah. It's kind of like he's got.
He's got a verified tick. He's a.
Verified tick. Yeah, you've got.
What have I got? You've got, well, you've got the
two arrows, the, what are they called, chevrons.
I think I think that. The double arrow still.
Counting me as a pro. You've got more Strava followers
in Jelly Roll, just FY. Oh, do I?
Yeah, you've got just Strava 15,000.
Jelly Roll's only at 12 1/2 so. You reckon you come on the road,
Hold on, hold on, hold on. So hold on.
Are you sure that's not his club?
No. No, no, that's Jelly Roll, which
goes to show he hasn't necessarily converted that many
people over from his. But how many Instagram followers
you got? Oh.
God, I don't know, 18 or something probably similar.
Right, Jelly Roll's got 4.3 million.
Yeah, so he's got me. I gotcha.
But with with the these arrows in that for if no one's ever
thought about it. And you know what?
It's completely irrelevant too. But if you have premium, I'm
pretty sure it might give you 1 arrow pro runners, 2 arrows and
then the star are like literally hey this person's real, we
verified. Them.
Yeah, Nice. We got some loose ends.
Oh, you know, have we actually even got in the run sheet about
her running 'cause we have. Why don't you get onto your
running? And you wanna get into our
running now I. Wanna get into your?
Running. Let's get into some running then
I would like to. Well, I think, I mean, I hope
you're ready for this. I think we need to cancel the
podcast. Why?
It's gotten out of hand. All right, This has all gotten a
bit out of hand. OK, I, I spoke to you about this
the other day. I, I've now got people following
me on Strava and I'm not running and my running's not that
interesting. So the podcast that's strike
one. OK, Strike 2 is I got an email
from the Gold Coast Marathon the other day asking if I'd like to
participate in a photo shoot for runners for the Gold Coast
Marathon. That's strike two.
Did you say yes? Yeah, I did.
Oh, good. But I have you got your phone
handy. Yeah, I do.
All right, I'm going to send you a photo.
And this, this is strike three. This is for me, this is a sign
that this whole running business and this podcast, it's gotten
out of hand. It's gotten silly.
I've sent you a photo. Is that have you got two people
working on you? That is me at the physio the
other day with two people. Special treatment.
I joked about it on the Wednesday Gold Coast Marathon,
it with Benita and Bronte that I felt like a pro athlete having a
physio, my physio and my coach discussing me as an athlete on
email. I turned up for my physio
appointment the other day and Liam Ryan from Gold Coast Physio
in Burley was working on the problematic calf.
And all of a sudden the other calf started getting about
what's going on here. And Brits walked in and I
thought she was having a bit of a laugh, like I thought she was,
you know. And then she stayed there.
And so for 10 minutes at the physio during the week the other
day I had two highly qualified experts working on my crappy,
can't run under 3 hours 20 in a marathon legs.
And I thought this is embarrassing, this has gotten
out of hand. And then Trent, the masseuse
there took a photo of it. I I think we would have wrapped
this up. We'll put that photo up.
They're rolling out the red carpet for you mate, That's all
I hear. Do they charge a double?
I didn't. You didn't check.
The laugh, laugh, the last laugh might be on you.
Genuinely, Trent, Britt, Leo. Just just just just rewind back
to the photo. Shoot, yeah.
What? This is good?
This is good Gold Coast Marathon?
What is it like a calendar? Is it like men and women at the
Gold Coast Marathon? Or I got an email from I'll find
it, it's from Dylan and Dylan is in charge of marketing and some
other things. But I'm just trying to find his
email. But there's a fella I'm a.
Little bit upset. I'm I'm a little bit upset.
What that you didn't get the email?
Well, obviously. Well, you're not running mate.
All right, I'm. Not running so I still.
Think you're running? The photographer's name is and
I'll look him up, I think. Now it hasn't happened yet, so
there's every chance now that I've talked about it, I'll get
the arse. But Paul Harris is his name and
he does these. Dylan sent me a link to the
style that he does these kind of marathon profile photos.
When you said when you said style and profile like it's not
like one of those nude it's. Not like the old black and
white. Nude.
Did you ever appear in one of those?
You ever been photo nude? Not that I can think, honestly.
We wouldn't get away with all that stuff these days, would
you? Oh no.
No, no, I don't mean it in that sense.
I mean in the idea. Of fire, firemen's, firemen, and
firewoman's. So this is.
Calendar that you're appearing kind of like it's the calendar
of. Gold Coast, I reckon it was in
2000. They had the black and white
Olympic edition, the photography magazine, where it was like
Lauren Jackson was in it, Tatiana Gregorieva was in it.
I reckon I wasn't. Clem was in it.
They're all big names, OK, So they don't come down to the B
grade sports. Paul as a photographer and go
check him out. Paul Harris, photographer.com.
It's some cool stuff, but he's got these.
He's got a a series called In the Long Run, OK, and it's
specifically about runners. And so if you look through it,
Benita's in there, Rob D Costello's in there, Steve
Moneghetti's in there. They're.
Quite cool, yeah? And Dylan, I got the email from
the Golden Marathon saying, hey, would you be interested?
Ando's in there. Yeah, Ando from Wild Earth.
Shout out Ando. Yeah, so like, they're really
cool photos and I was looking through them and I was like,
hold on, what am I doing? They're gonna make you look
good. Well, it looks I hope so.
But now anyway. So my point is, I think this has
been fun, but I think it's probably time we've wrap this up
because this is getting silly now.
I I don't need to be having photo shoots or having multiple
professionals. So did the double car from Are
you running? That's more.
I'm running. I ran 6 as of today day of
recording. I ran 6 1/2 KS yesterday on the
treadmill. Oh.
Treadmill. Yeah, well, because the
Bonita's, the training programme she set for me as I build start
to rebuild volume in is it's a treadmill or it's not a
treadmill run, but it's a run into some more endurance stuff
on some more cross training. I've complained on here before
about stationary bike riding, mate.
The elliptical, that sucks more. Yeah, Yeah, that's horrible.
Oh, so you you're not, you're not treadmilling, you're
elliptical. No, no, no.
I treadmilled into elliptical. OK, so I ran.
I was allowed to run for 35 minutes on the treadmill into 30
to 40 minutes cross training bike or elliptical.
And I'm like, I've never been on an elliptical before.
That's horrible. That's a weird feeling.
I didn't like that at all. Yeah, I'd much rather.
So today I went back to the bike.
I've never done elliptical so. Done.
Very weird. I couldn't actually.
I like. Treadmill.
I actually love treadmill. Yeah, the same reason.
The same reason I like doing the stationary bike stuff when it's
about just getting the work done.
Yeah, I hate just sitting there for the sake of it.
I'd much rather be outside. But the treadmill, you can get
some really good sessions done on that.
So I did 6 KS at 510 pace with a bit of a warm up and then a slow
down obviously. But yeah, and calf feels fine.
Calf feels good. The double massage from from
Britt and Liam worked the treat. It was funny though, they
started getting competitive. Like as soon as Britt started
working on my right calf, Liam started pushing harder on my
left guard and I was like, what are you doing?
So very competitive in the physio world but.
You're doing strength work. Strength work.
So the strength training is at the gym on days at the moment.
I'm not running back to back days.
OK. It's days off in between, but
the strength training, the heavy stuff at the gym is on the Smith
machine. For those that don't know, it's
kind of the automated thing that you see people doing squats and
all that sort of stuff. Squat, but it's not free
weights. I am doing a forward lunge front
like pushing up on that Smith machine with the back leg and
then I'm doing some kind of plyometric.
Is it plyometric holds the pushing hard basically I'm
locking that Smith machine into place so that I can push against
it as hard as I want. It won't move to kind of tensing
that muscle isometric isometric that might be the word isometric
holds and then on basically every day at home is car phrases
single knee, straight leg, bent knee just that that that that.
Isn't it, they'll just jump on those names, isn't it, because
we might have got them wrong as well?
Isn't it funny? Like all the terminology, like
in every industry's got it. But all the terminology that,
you know, the people in the know, Yeah.
You just, you're, you're taking on that information just as this
is what I do. Yeah.
Like I can't really explain it. And I think it's interesting
because like if you, you know, we talk to a physio or someone
else, like I love it when they when the information comes in
our terms. Yeah.
It's like, So what is it? Oh, you know, when you it's
just, it's a stationary hold. Yeah.
I don't really care what what the name of it is.
I just need to know how to do it.
It may be why I'm doing it. Often I like to know why to a
degree, but some people might just.
Want to do it? Well, I'm the opposite.
I'm just like, well, just tell me what I need to do.
I don't need to understand it. So basically the running is
slowly coming back. Although I tell you what, after
six, after 35 minutes of running on the treadmill, I kind of
went, oh boy, a marathon seems really hard right now.
It seemed tough. It is a long way for 35 minutes.
How's your injury going? How's your return to running?
All going well, I mean, very mine.
Up to 9 weeks now. He said nine weeks.
No, but I'm running. You're running.
I ran this morning. What'd you run?
I ran for 15 minutes and I did one minute jog, but I was
actually moving and pretty OK one minute and then 30 seconds
walk for 15 minutes, right? The first two days ago I started
with 30 seconds jog, 30 seconds walk and that was awful.
My knee in all, all things my knees because I haven't done a
lot of like I haven't done much weight bearing stuff and I've
done a bit of activation stuff to get me ready to do this.
Yeah, but my knees, well, it was my it was awful.
Today felt like a new person. So like it, the muscles, just
everything. I mean, I would do also do some
single leg squats and a few things to kind of like my knees
are hurting. I better get them sorted pretty
quick, but what I was doing when I was running like 15 minutes
running seems nothing cry but that 30 seconds break only felt
started to feel like I was actually getting, you know, the
heart rate up a little bit and that and I think I got excited.
Oh. What pace do you reckon?
I went for 15 minutes doing walk jogs.
So you're running for a minute at a time.
A minute, minute on, 30 seconds, 30 seconds off.
Well, I mean, I hope I I would have guessed before you told me
you got excited that you were running at about 4:30 pace.
I mean, but for the whole thing, including the walks, what do you
mean 430? You're not gonna get through
walking. Hold four 30s doing 1 minutes
and then 30 seconds. No, in my head you're running
those 1 minutes at 4:30. I don't know.
I just saw her at the end of 15 minutes.
I'd averaged five 20s and I'm like, oops.
That's way too fast, yeah. Yeah, that, that's what I
thought. Way too fast.
Yeah. I thought you'd be like running
the runs at 4:30 and then walking the walks at like 12
minutes, I felt. Not like that on Monday, but I
don't know what happened today, but I've got to, I've got to
settle down. That's.
Way too fast even I know that. But you know what, I'll, I'll
say I won't get in to go back through everything that's
happened in, in what we're doing, but I'm only going to be
running every second day for the foreseeable future with cross
training. We're going to get really
conservative on the the progression on that.
However, I just want to reiterate with everyone because
I did this with my calves in my recent kind of last year as
well. Walk jogging for those when
you're coming back and you think it's a cop out.
I would never do it doesn't even even if I just had a month off
because I went on a, a boat for a month and I couldn't run on a
holiday, I'd come back and I would start with walk running.
I sorry, walk jogging. I back in when I'd get injured
or have niggles or whatever. Back in triathlon days.
I would never, ever go through this phase.
Only if you were like super injured, but I think anyone
coming back from a time off or even if you just haven't been
running a lot or if. You're about to start or.
Starting this is as far as I'm concerned, it's the only way and
I've learnt this in the last few years.
Why? Why is it?
Why is it such a good way to return to running, get into
running, return to running from an injury or a layoff?
Multiple, multiple reasons. Well, the key one is by doing
the the walk between it, you're just giving yourself that little
bit of rest. So you're playing on the
conservative side. But also what it also allows you
to do is say this morning, the minute by minute, it gives you a
real clear indication of when you're getting tired or when
you're starting to overdo it or that muscles getting tired or
your knees or whatever else it is when you're just running.
Like the other way I could do it is go, let's just run 10 minutes
this morning and do it continuous.
The problem with that is your form falls apart.
If you haven't been running and you're not used to it and my
knees are starting to hurt, your form's going to start to fall
apart. You're probably going to run
less. But by the end of that, you
probably may be doing more detrimental, like it's more
detrimental to you actually getting back because your hips
drop. Everything goes, you're getting
tight when you just take that little bit of a walk between
everything as a you just perk up again and you can go and go and
go. And then you know, and I know
once we get into this further and further, once I start
building that out, that that walk jog, like even when I get
back to running normally, if I was to even be able to go out
and run 90 minutes, I reckon I'll still throw in a minute
walk every 20 minutes or so. Wow, that idea of I had.
And that's just my that's just me learning on coming back from
a few of these things over the year.
I will in my long runs still put a bit of a walk in the initial
phases when I get back, even running up to like 607090
minutes. That's really interesting
because I mean, we've heard bananas preached it and I've
heard so many people talk about walk running and you talk about
taking people's terminology like physios, isometric, plyometric
stuff. I have, I have when I've talked
to people in the office who said who, I've said, oh, why don't
you come for a run? They're like, Oh no, I can't
run. I couldn't run 5K when I'm like,
don't have to like start. I've told people to start with a
walk run only because in my mind the only rationale was because
it's easier. Yeah, but I haven't thought
about. Well, it allows you to maintain
proper running form. Yeah, and, and it seems like a
cop out, like you just want to get back to running.
Like I would always load up and progress.
So I might go 10 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next day,
have a day off, 20 minutes, thirty minutes, have a day off.
But I would always do it in I've got to run.
And this this in the last few years is coming back from a few
things. This walk jog or walk run idea
is a game changer for me. Absolutely game changer.
There might be a lot of people out there have gone about that
anyway, but I'm sure there's a few like me who in the past are
just gone, always putting, you know, always doing the maximum,
trying to go well, I want to run more.
I want to run more. Here's a comparison for the
musicians listening. OK, it's a lot learning scales
before playing the full song. Yep, like playing it.
That's why I guess when you've when I used to learn piano,
you'd sit down and go, awesome, I want to learn that song.
You'd teach go. No, you're going to learn
scales. Oh, well, I have to learn scales
so you can play a song. Yep.
But can't you just teach me the song?
No, I've got to teach the scales first.
Yeah. Yeah.
There you go. Brilliant, you know.
What I reckon that is a good time to wrap up because we're
both running, everything's good. We're back.
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