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In the beginning podcast episode
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Courtney, a hypothetical if you 
please. 

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Yeah, this one's for you Liam. 
I'm not a golfer, but for you 

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what's tougher, running a sub 
330 marathon or breaking 100 in 

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a round of golf? 
Gutfield says it's harder to run

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a 330 marathon than break 100. 
Really. 

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That's. 
Putting the content Gutfield non

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for the non golfers which I 
reckon majority of runners 

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probably are, don't really go 
hand in hand running in golf. 

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Although speed golf is something
I do wanna try. 

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Golf, yeah, but how hard is it 
to hit a? 

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OK, so the average, average golf
course has a power of 72, which 

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means if you play to each course
to the number of strokes, you'd 

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hit 72. 
So you're averaging, you're 

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hitting 27 / a par, which means 
you're averaging A bogey and a 

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half a hole. 
So if it's a par three, you'll 

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hit a four or A5. 
That's tough. 

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If it's a par 4, you hit a 5 or 
a six, and if it's a par 4, 

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etcetera. 
Like, if you're not a golfer, 

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that's tough. 
Like anyone who's gone and had a

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hack around a golf course, Sure,
that's. 

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Really tough. 
I I'm not both are hard. 

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Both of these, both things can 
be true. 

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Both of these things are 
difficult to achieve. 

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We've talked about before in 
this podcast the the Strava 

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numbers that reflect the average
pace people run at and the 

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average marathon time, and it's 
a lot slower than 330I guess the

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reason I go with running being 
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running is physically more 
taxing than golf for a start. 

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So immediately, OK, here we go. 
So immediately, golf is the 

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easiest sport to participate in 
because some people physically 

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aren't capable. 
Well, there's a lot of people 

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who have never If you haven't 
picked a Golf Club up in your 

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life and you go to the hole and 
try and tee off, I reckon you've

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got about one chance in 10 of 
giving that ball anywhere. 

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I think no, no, no. 
I, I you'll. 

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Get you're giving golf way too 
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Amount of time it takes to 
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swing. 
Not to not to play pro, not to 

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go onto or not to shoot par. 
But to get a golf swing to the 

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point of being able to shoot 
under 100 is far more achievable

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than getting somebody with no 
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let alone run it in sub 330 
pace. 

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Yeah, because that what? 
What? 

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Context here it depends. 
I'm I'm thinking the marathon is

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a lot easier from my perspective
of. 

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Course you think it's easy. 
You could roll out. 

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You could roll out a bit and 
roll some. 

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Trainability too. 
Golf is, I think it's golf's way

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more trainable. 
If you've never run and you've 

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never played golf, I can 
guarantee you're going to run 

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better than you play golf. 
Everyone can run. 

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Not everyone can pick up a stick
and hit a golf ball straight or 

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hit a golf ball at all. 
Yeah, everyone can run for 100 

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metres. 
Yeah, or a. 

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Kilometre blame the Canadians, 
blame the Canadians for this. 

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It's Canadian running and I 
thought what a topic that. 

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Is a good hypothetical, I'm 
sticking with it. 

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I reckon a sub 3:30 is harder 
than a sub hundred round of golf

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because I reckon I've run. 
I've run a sub 330 more recently

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than I've run and then I've 
played actually now that. 

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Yeah, she hit under 100. 
Yeah, Yeah, Come on. 

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That was a confident that was 
that was quick and. 

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Confident, yeah, yeah, come on, 
we should play a game of golf. 

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We we should do this. 
We we keep on talking about 

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catching up outside the podcast 
and then we say we'll talk about

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it on the podcast. 
Have you got any big topics for 

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us this week? 
Liam, what do you got? 

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Look, I mean, I've got to get to
the Mylar because we we won't do

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it now. 
We'll get to it a bit later. 

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But geez, the feedback has come 
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just a Miller announcement. 
Just just just. 

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Jumping in off, you know, fresh 
and just saying I'm going to go 

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and run 160K. 
There's been, there's been 

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plenty of feedback. 
Can I go? 

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You and I need to apologise. 
We have, we have left massive. 

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We we often need to apologise. 
Feedback from feedback from a 

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lot of people about the T100 Oh 
yeah, on the Gold Coast has been

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outstanding. 
From Gold Coast. 

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Yes from from people wanting to 
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race, the T100 itself. 
I've had a lot of great feedback

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and again people, this is the 
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with the T110K event. 
Why didn't we set up a run 

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group? 
Yeah, that's why blame me on 

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this. 
The amount of people who've had 

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hit me up going I'm registered. 
I assumed I'd be able to join 

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the in the beginning team. 
Why don't we have a team? 

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I didn't even know there was a 
team. 

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We can no, but we can do that. 
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seen those messages, yeah, I've 
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It well, get rid of all that 
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got to do. 
I haven't had time in the 

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beginning stuff to the top. 
I'll tell you what, the while 

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we're talking running and on the
Gold Coast, let's could we we 

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have been talking about this on 
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So what's this one? 
This is about the reinvention 

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the new breed of schoolies. 
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Didn't didn't go down too well. 
He let's just let's let the. 

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News. 
Tell the story, Yeah. 

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Well, official events put on for
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drawn varying crowds. 
The first Schoolies Run Club has

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failed to inspire the thousands 
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Just one answered the call this 
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Zach, though, wasn't put off by 
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Still gonna go, gonna do it. 
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You know, looks. 
Like a pretty good runner so. 

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You know, as I said, maybe a 
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Saturdays who knows 7 News 
called Zack's parents who were 

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understandably thrilled their 17
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responsible. 
Maybe, maybe the hype isn't what

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what we believe. 
That is, how do you? 

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That's a flop. 
Enormous flop. 

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Like, let's call it what it is. 
And the fact the news that they 

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are waiting. 
I actually think it's a win for 

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news. 
I think that's from a if I'm a 

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like in radio, when we do these 
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these ideas and look, I'll give 
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recording this, you and I 
tomorrow my radio show is 

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attempting a big event, 
attempting an idea. 

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This is the tin reversing the 
tinny. 

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The boat ramp chance. 
Yes, this is gold, this. 

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It right so context of this, if 
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show 2-3 months ago, one of my 
Co host Spider made a comment 

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that he loves and he used to 
love nothing more than going 

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down with a bag of hot chips and
watching people try and reverse 

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their boats in Yep, at the boat 
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That single sentence in my brain
went Oh my God, we need to host 

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an event where we find the best 
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True spectator sport. 
True spectator sport. 

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OK, so we've been attempting to 
put this thing together. 

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Tomorrow is the day tomorrow we 
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Island boat ramp here in on the 
gold we've. 

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Got guaranteed entries. 
We've got 5 finalists. 

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A finalists. 
Yeah, yeah, we've got 5 

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finalists. 
How did we open a registration? 

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Right. 
Yeah, right. 

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And they have to like submit a 
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You have to, well, you, you 
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So we've got people of varying. 
We've got some people. 

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We've got a super yacht captain 
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$1,000,000 boats around the 
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Yeah. 
But he's on the boat, not in a 

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car. 
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him. 
We've got a 19 year old who is 

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just a whiz at it. 
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been who learnt to do it when he
was 8 and he's now teaching his 

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nine year old daughter to do the
same thing. 

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So we've got all and we've got 
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who've pitched their different 
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We've got so 5 finalists 
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JSW powersports this local the 
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literally sell more sea doos 
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planet. 
Now, Can you imagine that? 

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I see on the Gold Coast, I see 
the spit everywhere. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
They've come on board and so 

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I've never technically launched 
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person trying to organise this, 
I've gone out to the boat ramp a

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couple of weeks ago and sort of 
sketched out a course. 

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Did you give it a go? 
No. 

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Did you reverse the trail? 
No, but then I went and spoke to

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Jeff Mcneven, who's the big boss
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Yeah. 
And he is going to, he's going 

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to meet me there really early 
tomorrow morning to actually 

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check this course because I 
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And he's like, you'll have to 
change that because that won't 

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work. 
And you'll have to change that 

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because that won't work. 
But he's going to meet me there 

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to basically. 
Nothing like that trying to 

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organise. 
To bring it back to this idea of

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the run club at schoolies and 
and what Sana dies, I think that

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was the team that organised it. 
Good on you for trying because 

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you might have had 150 kids turn
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been amazing. 
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perspective, I think it was that
it turned up there with the 

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report. 
If you turn up and there's 150, 

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great, amazing. 
That looks great for TV. 

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That's a good story. 
One person turning up is a 

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better story. 
Just a single person turning up 

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is actually a better story. 
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The worst thing that could have 
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is if 20 people turned up and it
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know, so tomorrow when we have 
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goes smoothly, that's kind of 
the worst thing that can happen.

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The best thing you need to lose 
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Vote is if somebody drives into 
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being fired, you know, you want,
you want things to be a success,

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but when they're a failure, it's
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Yeah, I'm, I would have loved to
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And I'm like watching people at 
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the hot, some hot. 
So we've got a coffee cart, 

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we've got a BBQ going on, and 
you're gonna get to watch 5 

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people all while Spider has a 
megaphone and is just, you know,

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in the same way that left, left 
hand down, right. 

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No, no, no, straight enough 
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Gonna be heckling. 
He's gonna be heckling because 

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we want that boat ramp vibe. 
That's fair enough. 

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And we're gonna have people 
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Do you want me to jump in and do
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Do you, do you want, do you just
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It's funny. 
We've got Kathy, the only female

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finalist who has said the amount
of times she's like, I want to 

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represent the women because the 
amount of times I have men at a 

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boat ramp knock on my window and
say would you like me to back it

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in for you? 
It's like, no, I wouldn't. 

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I'll be fine, thank you anyway. 
She's the favourite. 

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Well done to Zach I I worry for 
poor old Zach about the grief he

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might got from his mates but. 
I'm spewing about that I'm that 

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would I would have liked to have
come down. 

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Boat and champs. 
Yeah, I've seen you in action. 

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Well, look, if it goes well, I 
don't. 

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Think I would have been a 
starter but. 

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Well, if it goes wrong and 
here's the dream, this is an 

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exclusive. 
I'll give you an exclusive if 

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the dream is if it goes well 
next year we have we'd make it 

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bigger and we have the jet ski 
category and the boat category. 

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You're right. 
You start to, you start to grow 

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it. 
No, it's. 

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Kind of like. 
Jet skis are harder because the 

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trailer's smaller. 
Oh, yeah, it's going to be 

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promoting. 
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All right, there's enough of 
them around. 

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We don't, they don't need 
anything more. 

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Hey, but there's that on. 
And then you know what else? 

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Because I've got to head to 
Melbourne for the weekend. 

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There's a conference on work. 
Good. 

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Don't get me wrong. 
Yeah, there's a lot more 

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offering on the Gold Coast this 
weekend. 

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The MX. 
You want to get to the 

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motocross. 
I wanted to get a a motocross is

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like, you know, 6K way over here
at Robina Stadium. 

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What? 
What's the sea bus? 

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Sea. 
Sea bus. 

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Sea bus, Yeah. 
Dirty in some of the best riders

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in the world. 
Do you, do you and I'm in 

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Melbourne. 
Do you want to listen? 

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Here's a lesson for and we will 
get back to some. 

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We've got some good running to 
talk about. 

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But here's a lesson for people 
on being not proactive, but 

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being prompt in life when 
opportunities present, if an 

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opportunity presents, they say 
grab it with both hands. 

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I would, I would add on to that,
grab it with both hands quickly.

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Yes, I received a phone call 
slash email, some correspondence

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offering me the opportunity to 
host that motocross event. 

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I was Slack and by the time I 
got back to them, they found 

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someone else. 
I'm disappointedly I'm just all 

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I. 
Wanted I just wanted tickets 

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Well that's. 
The first thing you said to me 

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when I told you about it, oh, 
can you give me some tickets? 

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And look, it's a good lesson for
me because I'm not great with 

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being prompt in getting back to 
people, but it's a great lesson 

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heading into next year that grab
any opportunity with both hands,

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but grab it quickly. 
Yeah, I'm the really, yeah, 

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mate, I'm down there and I'm 
thinking the Gold Coast, like, 

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Sir, it's been good weather's 
been like, except for the 

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storms, the weather's been 
brilliant. 

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And I think I looked at 
Melbourne weather and it was, 

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you know. 
Well, it's Melbourne. 

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It's gonna be like their Max is 
our minimum. 

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Rhoda, let's get back to some 
running, please, Courtney. 

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Yeah, look, we're being, it's 
all about getting called out. 

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Go back to T100. 
Yeah, shout out again. 

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We will. 
I will get that team up. 

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OK, so. 
Can you retroactively join 

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teams? 
You should be able to if you're 

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if you're one of the people. 
That's already. 

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We don't know that. 
We don't know that so. 

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If you are one of the people 
that signed up, we're looking 

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into it and if we find a way to 
make you a part of the in the 

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Beginning run team for this 
event. 

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I'll let you know. 
Yeah, Big. 

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So those people that have 
reached out, massive. 

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Miss on our behalf since we 
we'll be there and we'll be 

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running. 
Secondly, we've been getting 

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called out your story on Hayden 
Wilde last week running saying 

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that he could run 244 kilometres
over the T100 in Qatar. 

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Did I get it wrong? 
Oh mate, so wrong. 

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But I feel bad also because I 
don't know what I, what planet I

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was on last week. 
I kind of was sitting here just 

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nodding my head. 
And you're looking at the 

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official results. 
Yeah. 

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I kind of just nodded my head 
and went yeah, yeah, yeah, 

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whatever. 
Must have been listening to. 

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But. 
It's always good to know you're 

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listening. 
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, Right. 

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The reality is, well, you were 
reading the official results, 

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all right? 
And I hadn't looked into it that

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much. 
And I'm thinking now, like, 

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triathlon courses are 
notoriously short anyway. 

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So I never put it. 
I never put it past, like, let a

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good story roll. 
Sure. 

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I was thinking hey is run it. 
Yeah, you know. 

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It's whatever, 18K it's probably
16 1/2 K or something. 

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Whatever. 
Yeah, OK. 

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He that's the time he did for a 
lap lesson. 

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Everyone else. 
So the 244 is complete bullshit.

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Oh, so he's running a full lap 
short? 

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Yes, he is. 
Literally, we were just talking 

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out of our asses. 
Well. 

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Blame Dubai. 
We need to do our research. 

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We need so that's. 
But then the third thing we're 

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being called out on, we're just 
not given information about 

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running anymore. 
Lee, OH. 

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OK. 
So I've been asked. 

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Right. 
With trail coming on board. 

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Mm Hmm. 
Can we just give and and the 

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what was the the fellow who 
reached out Tippo. 

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Yeah, Tippo wanting to this is 
the fellow who's been running 

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for a bit once. 
We're gonna get onto your mile 

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of stuff and feedback in a 
moment. 

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But before we get there, let's 
just let's just talk trail 

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running for a while, OK? 
And I thought everyone always 

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asks for advice on trail, like 
help us talk about trail 

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running, give us some advice. 
What is it? 

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I'm like, I don't even know 
where to start. 

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Just go and run. 
All right, so here's where I'm 

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going to help everyone is just 
to understand a little bit 

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today. 
So run the run, run outside 

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online. 
So the biggest kind of outdoor 

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magazine, digital magazine in 
the US. 

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Run.outsideonline.com is the 
website. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So they've been online. 

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Oh, it's just the outside mag. 
So it used to be a traditional 

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magazine, now the biggest 
online, and they've done an 

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article which just popped up on 
my to my email saying a complete

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beginner's guide to travel. 
Great. 

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And I thought, you know what? 
Why don't I just go use that? 

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Great. 
And I'm gonna see if I can 

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debunk like, is it good? 
Yep. 

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Is it bad or is it indifferent? 
OK, so I've done a bit of a 

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summary. 
I might actually. 

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I'll run through it. 
So run through it and trail run 

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through it, they've said. 
And then what do I think? 

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So to break it down, they've got
it before you go. 

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Safety essentials, technique, 
tips. 

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Now that's the big one. 
I want to look into running 

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form, which it's an interesting 
one. 

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What to wear trail etiquette and
a bit of mindset out there. 

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OK, so let's start at the top. 
Before you go, pick an easy 

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world mark trail. 
OK, I, I want to stop there. 

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No, people need SEO when they 
write website articles. 

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The whole point of writing a 
website article is you get 

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picked up on Google and it feeds
in information. 

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But come on, just get to the 
information people need to know 

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really quick. 
OK, You're not going to go trail

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running with storming. 
Pretty common sense, right? 

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You don't need to check the 
weather conditions. 

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I mean, granted, if you're in 
the States and you're up at 

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altitude, maybe a difference, 
but here in Australia pretty 

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much you can go. 
We've been running and rang and 

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pretty much in floods. 
Yeah, you're not going to get 

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into too. 
Much so don't, but yeah. 

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And don't. 
I mean, we're going to assume 

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some common sense. 
Don't go in the middle of a 

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stinking hot 40° day during Bush
fire season, you know. 

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Bush fires is a good one. 
There's been some incidents 

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we're. 
Going to hold your hands through

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this but we don't want to have 
to bottle feed you too so the 

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first thing the most simple 
thing I'm going to say if you're

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getting out on. 
Trials take a phone reason being

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taking a phone makes sense and 
it's not going to work in all 

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locations. 
But these days the Apple phone's

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got a pretty good SOS like 
satellite. 

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If you've got a more recent 
phone, it's got a satellite 

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activation on it. 
Most places you're running gonna

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have is gonna have some type of 
reception anyway. 

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Download some form of offline 
maps. 

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Now this is the key 1. 
So you can use Strava if you put

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in a like a root you can 
download offline and if your 

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phone's not working in mobile 
reception, you can still follow 

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that route. 
Fine, fine. 

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Trail forks, Strava offline or 
maps dot me. 

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Great. 3 apps are gonna be your 
friend if you're starting out. 

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Simple as that. 
Beyond that, just use your 

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common sense. 
Take a backpack. 

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The other thing I'd always say 
it doesn't matter. 

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I mean, middle of summer here in
Queensland is probably not going

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to be a big issue. 
Always take a jacket. 

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I love this. 
And A and a weather like a seam 

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sealed jacket. 
So you'll explain why. 

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So you'll see this in majority 
of trail races you'll it'll say 

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take a like a compulsory piece 
of equipment with a rain jacket.

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The reason? 
It seems sealed. 

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But Courtney, I'm going to be 
really hot. 

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I'm running around. 
I'm not going to get cold. 

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Why do I need a jacket? 
If anyone who ever has broken a 

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bone, what happens? 
Shiver. 

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Your body goes into shock #1. 
I've never broken a bone so I 

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don't know the answer. 
I was gonna say even if it's 

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like super hot, it's gonna 
matter. 

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But you just don't know how your
body's gonna react to injury. 

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Number one, OK, Even when you're
in hot, in hot climates, you 

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don't know what the weather's 
gonna do. 

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You don't know how long you're 
gonna be stuck out there if 

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something happened. 
If something goes wrong. 

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Yeah, and we're not probably 
talking and like running 3K from

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bloody Nerang Velodrome here. 
We're talking if you're getting 

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out on some trails out the back 
or you're on holidays and you're

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in the trail. 
You don't know. 

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Exactly. 
You just never know what's gonna

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happen, and having that, and I 
suppose when the weather 

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changes, if you're down South or
whatever else, it's that same 

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sealed jacket can save your 
life. 

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It's as simple as that. 
OK. 

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And. 
It can just make you comfortable

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too, like if the weather changes
and you're not ready for it, a 

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bit of rain, whatever comes in, 
that's probably so phone. 

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Backpack, Backpack jacket. 
Jacket, if you're in state 

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territory or that in the old 
snake bandage, someone or 

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someone's going to call me out. 
Have I ever do I ever run with a

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snake bandage? 
No, no. 

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OK. 
I mean, I like this is I'm 

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trying to think of an acronym 
for your God to try. 

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I've got PBJ like peanut butter 
and Jelly right now. 

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But then you add the snake 
bandage in. 

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So I haven't quite figured out. 
You keep going. 

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Well, that's I mean, and that's 
it. 

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That's as simple as it needs to 
be And and water nutrition, you 

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probably add in there water if 
you know there's that option. 

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I've always said like I don't 
want to carry water in and it's 

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really hot if you're running in 
a place where there's. 

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You know, creeks and streams and
that type of thing. 

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There's always the option now of
taking in that the Philtre. 

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So you can get soft flasks with 
a Philtre. 

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I mean, there's a whole range of
brands, hydro flasks do them. 

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You know, some of the running 
companies do them as well. 

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You can go down to a local kind 
of adventure or trail shop and 

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you'll always be able to get the
philtre. 

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That's what I probably, if I, if
you said what do I actually go 

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into say up in Springbrook and 
I'm going to go and run. 

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I'll have in my backpack a 
phone, a jacket and the philtre.

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The philtre I know. 
Table Order General Phone. 

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Backpack jacket, Philtre, PBJF 
the just to that can I add on 

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there because I, I've spent a 
little bit of time in the trails

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by comparison to you. 
I would also say if you're going

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to go into one of those outdoor 
shops to buy some stuff and 

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that's a local shop to you, 
they're also great people to 

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talk to about the trails. 
Like there'll be someone in that

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shop who runs trails. 
So if you're looking, if you 

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again, if you're looking to make
that transition to trails and 

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you're going in to buy a piece 
of equipment so you can do that,

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that right there is your face to
face moment to talk to say, hey,

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is there while you're buying the
Philtre or the poles or whatever

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it is you're getting, say hey, 
is there anyone in here who runs

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trails around here? 
And then, hey, I'm making this 

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transition. 
Is there a, a beginner trial or 

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is there a 10K loop? 
Or is there something that they 

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would recommend? 
So you can not only then you can

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00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,000
maybe have that conversation 
about the map that you're 

449
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,800
downloading on the app you've 
picked, but you can really get 

450
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,720
that. 
And this, it sort of depends on 

451
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,560
the type of personality you've 
got as well. 

452
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,160
I'm someone who. 
Would. 

453
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,880
I would learn and take in a lot 
more of that information you've 

454
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,040
just talked about there face to 
face. 

455
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,440
Let's say I went and had a 
conversation with Anderson at 

456
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,920
Wild Earth here on the Gold 
Coast. 

457
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,320
A lot of that information you've
just told me then like all the 

458
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,720
that suggestions and 
recommendations of geographical 

459
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,280
locations would sink in. 
Better not by looking it up 

460
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,680
online and just reading off my 
phone, but by having someone 

461
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,360
directly talk. 
It to well, they can you can 

462
00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:09,240
also give, I mean, it was only a
few days ago, someone just 

463
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,040
messaged me hiking more so than 
running and just said, hey, 

464
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,120
you're the tourism guy around 
here. 

465
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,040
Like where I'm on the Gold 
Coast, I've got someone coming 

466
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,440
in from the United States. 
Where should I take him hiking? 

467
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,040
And straight away, you know, in 
that, in like that situation, I 

468
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,040
actually jumped on Strava and 
said, look, Twin Falls, you know

469
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,440
the one you take your kids up to
Twin Falls circuit four and a 

470
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,960
half 5K, you get a swim, you get
a waterfall. 

471
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,800
Best place if you're up for a 
more of a day challenge, go 

472
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,080
worry but beware like that's an 
hour and a half me running. 

473
00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:40,240
You're going to be out there 6-7
hours. 

474
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,320
It's. 
A long day out if you're 

475
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,680
walking. 
They ended up doing worry. 

476
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,400
Oh, they did it. 
Yeah. 

477
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,360
Come back amazing. 
Stuffed. 

478
00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:47,240
Yeah, but amazing. 
That's a big day out. 

479
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,840
That's. 
I mean, that's the process. 

480
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,280
Like, if someone asked me 
exactly what I'd do to get the 

481
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,440
Strava, put it offline. 
Here you go. 

482
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,760
With the water thing, it's 
funny, I went for a trail run on

483
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,960
the weekend. 
Just gone with my neighbour and 

484
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:02,920
my neighbour who there's quite a
bit of mountain biking around 

485
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,240
the border trail. 
Yeah. 

486
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,080
So he's got a pretty good 
aerobic base. 

487
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,120
And we went for this run. 
But as we were starting to go 

488
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:10,920
for this run, he walked to my 
house and said, you ready to go?

489
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,160
And I said, yeah, I said, do you
want some water? 

490
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,960
Because he didn't have anything 
with him. 

491
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,720
And he was. 
And I said, and it was hot. 

492
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,280
Yeah. 
And I was like, mate, you're 

493
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,840
you're mad, but I'm taking 
water. 

494
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,960
I'm taking this with me because 
I know how much I sweat. 

495
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,720
But also we might. 
We ended up being out there for 

496
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,200
just shy of two hours and I said
and he I gave him a flask of 

497
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,400
water and he was at halfway out.
He said, oh mate, thank you very

498
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,720
much for this. 
I might, I don't and I get you 

499
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,320
don't take water for the most 
part on for the most part on 

500
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,640
simple trails that in the rang 
or if you've got your philtre, 

501
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:50,600
you don't take water to I'm 
going to add water to your PBJF.

502
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,800
Just take water well. 
That's why I said the the 

503
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,120
philtre. 
If you come, if you come back to

504
00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:58,400
your car with a full flask of 
water and you haven't touched 

505
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,760
it, tip it out great. 
But water is, you know, you talk

506
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,040
about that jacket. 
Just take the water. 

507
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,320
If you can. 
If you can, just take the. 

508
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,480
Water, I mean, because so again,
just on feedback, people are 

509
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,280
interested in all the different 
ways to do it, of course. 

510
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,760
So if you go into Narang at the 
moment and you'll see there's 

511
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,760
guys out there training for 
more, what you do, you're 

512
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,160
looking at doing the the Mylar 
and you'll see there'll be 

513
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,520
Eskies sitting on the trail, 
Yeah, at the head. 

514
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,400
And what they're doing is 
they're doing laps. 

515
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,880
So they're they're purposely 
being able to come back. 

516
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,360
Train they're running. 
Train their nutrition, yeah, get

517
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:35,320
water on when it's hot and all 
of those things. 

518
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,040
We, the guys I'm running with, 
if I go in and ring, we don't 

519
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,280
want to come back. 
We want the adventure going out 

520
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,760
even when there's no water. 
We just decide actually we'll 

521
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,240
take the dehydration, cop it and
come back and then plenty drink,

522
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,440
you know, 5 litres of water and 
whatever else you have and some 

523
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,680
Slurpees and whatever else goes 
down. 

524
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,280
But the other option in summer 
because of Queensland runners 

525
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,960
especially, and even if it's 
down like that time I was down 

526
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,960
in Bright at the end of last 
year and I said it was probably 

527
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,440
the hottest day I've ever run in
my life. 

528
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,840
There's always the option if 
you're going out and back or 

529
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,360
doing a loop and then coming 
back around is you can take if 

530
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,120
you don't want to carry water 
the whole way, you're not 

531
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:16,120
wearing a pack, take it some of 
the way. 

532
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,440
Drop it in the Bush somewhere 
where you know there's a marker.

533
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,920
No one's going to flog it and 
then just pick it up. 

534
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,720
And then always gives you like 
when you're, you know, 3/4 of 

535
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,800
the way for the run, it'll kick 
and you, you, you never look 

536
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,800
forward to it so much. 
Or even better, you know, like 

537
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,080
you throw like sometimes we'll 
throw a Red Bull or something 

538
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,200
tan in the Bush. 
And when you're like really just

539
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,080
stinking and then you're coming 
back and you're thinking 

540
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,480
nothing's better than a bit of. 
Sugar, it's a Christmas Day, 

541
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:45,200
hundreds 3/4 that I think. 
I love what you've given us 

542
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,960
there. 
That phone backpack jacket 

543
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,080
philtre slash water. 
Just the way. 

544
00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:55,280
They and this, if people want to
read the version of this on the 

545
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,400
onlinerun.outsideonline.com is 
the website. 

546
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,600
You can find it or there we'll 
put a link in, put a link in. 

547
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,280
I feel like when people talk 
about that beginning and and 

548
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:09,280
Tippo, it seems to be a little 
bit of mentality, like it's, 

549
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,080
it's, it's not because everybody
knows like if we would all sit 

550
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,560
down honestly and go, well, I 
should take a phone and I should

551
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,640
take some water and I should 
take something if I get cold. 

552
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,400
What is it? 
Can you, can you explain or kind

553
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,840
of encourage people a way to 
kind of get over that mental 

554
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:30,280
hurdle of going away from your 
Flat Rd run, your local run that

555
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,160
you always do, even if it's 
around a park, to going and 

556
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,640
finding that trail? 
Someone to run with #1 like if 

557
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,600
it's always going to be easy, if
you could go in with someone. 

558
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,480
I would almost put that above 
phone and everything else. 

559
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,680
Yeah, if you've got a guide. 
Person better yeah a buddy a 

560
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,200
friend Yep 100% group 100% if 
you can go and find a trail 

561
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,880
group to run with it is the it's
you know it's it's like the 

562
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,040
first time you had a drink you 
did it with your friends you 

563
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,920
didn't do it sitting by yourself
and and some. 

564
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,440
People like and like. 
I think that's really. 

565
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,000
Important that yeah, 100% if you
find someone to do it. 

566
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,880
But if you can't and you still 
want to go out and do it, you 

567
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,640
know, like because I always when
I first got in a two stories. 

568
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,320
So when I first got in, I may 
have told this one before, but 

569
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,680
when I first went over to do 
Coast to Coast and Rich Asher, 

570
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,320
who you know, was the world 
adventure champion for many 

571
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,840
years, kind of, you know, got me
on the course and mentored me 

572
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,600
the first time. 
And I remember we were at Castle

573
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,120
Hill. 
And so we're up on the on the 

574
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,560
range in the middle of New 
Zealand in between like 

575
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,240
Christchurch and where is it 
Greymouth. 

576
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,280
And that morning we got up to go
running. 

577
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,440
I think it was the first leg. 
And we're going to go and look 

578
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,200
at the course. 
And I said to him, what what do 

579
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,080
we take? 
And he said to me everything in 

580
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,400
your Co op compulsory kit 
practise. 

581
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,200
And I was like, you're like, at 
this stage in my career, I 

582
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,440
suppose I was like, you're 
kidding, right? 

583
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,320
They wanna be. 
It was kind of like, but it was 

584
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,720
also like kind of like the 
school teacher saying to me, you

585
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,240
idiot like. 
And I was like, why? 

586
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,440
And that was the answer is like,
because if you fuck, if you get 

587
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,800
caught, you could die or you 
know, you could get yourself 

588
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,840
compulsory. 
Trouble. 

589
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,280
It's compulsory for a reason. 
The reason we have that in the 

590
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,320
race is no different to yourself
going out to train in that. 

591
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,880
Now look, we're in the mountains
in New Zealand where it can snow

592
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,440
and cold and a whole range of 
other things. 

593
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,360
It's probably not as critical 
here in Australia, but you could

594
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:28,760
argue like a snake bandage is a 
pretty simple thing to take with

595
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,840
you that could have a real 
purpose if you did get in 

596
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,600
trouble. 
Saw my first snake since I've 

597
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,280
been running in Queensland, by 
the way, last weekend. 

598
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:38,200
First snake I've seen. 
What was that on the trail? 

599
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,680
Looked like a little brown 
thing. 

600
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,000
Little brown thing, little brown
thing, little whip it. 

601
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,160
This is why. 
This is why if anybody wants to 

602
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,000
try running trails, run heavy. 
So the snakes, here you go. 

603
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,760
Yeah, Yeah. 
So that that was keep going. 

604
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,600
That was so that was the first 
around like that's at the most 

605
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,520
elite level, the best in the 
world. 

606
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,200
They still do it. 
We took everything that you 

607
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,160
would have you. 
Not for the race, but for a 

608
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,480
Recon. 
Exactly, so you're going to UTA 

609
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,480
and you're going out to run the 
course yourself and it's you're 

610
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,720
going to go out and down into 
the valley, take everything. 

611
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,680
Well, that's coming from the 
advice of of that that stand the

612
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,960
best of all. 
The second story I've had is I 

613
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,560
also like people have seen me 
over the years, go out and do 

614
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,640
you know, quite remote 
adventures on my own. 

615
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,160
So like places like I've gone 
and run up Mount Zeal complete 

616
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,640
in middle and NT, literally a 
car at the base, no 

617
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,840
communication and gone out on my
own. 

618
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,560
You. 
Did that race Recon run earlier 

619
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,400
this year in what was it 
Madagascar or Mauritius? 

620
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,960
Where were. 
You, yeah, Mauritius up in the 

621
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:44,960
game park like now sometimes I 
go like Mauritius for example. 

622
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,720
Yeah, didn't take anything. 
And you got in trouble. 

623
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,160
And I got in trouble. 
So at that point I'm going, you 

624
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,800
want to take more the other 
places like I have taken in when

625
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,560
I've sometimes gone on some of 
the runs at a meeting remote and

626
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,040
I've never been there before. 
I always go in with the mindset 

627
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,240
of the worst, the most worst 
possible could happen. 

628
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,400
I want a SAT like some type of 
SAT device on me. 

629
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,920
I want everything I can have. 
I want my food, I want 

630
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,920
everything because I have no 
idea what's going to happen. 

631
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,080
I've always come out of those 
runs going. 

632
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,800
I took way that I was way over 
prepared. 

633
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,680
It felt like going for a run in 
my backyard. 

634
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,040
Like I've never, ever gone 
running anywhere and thought 

635
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,840
come outgoing. 
Jesus, I was under prepared for 

636
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,800
that. 
Yeah, but like I said, you'd 

637
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,480
better come out like that than 
be stuck in the middle of a 

638
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,040
trail somewhere and, you know, 
have rolled your ankle and can't

639
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,200
move and then stuck there 
overnight and that and not have 

640
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,680
it. 
That I think is probably that 

641
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,720
simple example of rolled your 
ankle. 

642
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,840
Again, if you are transitioning 
to the trails, that's a real 

643
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,840
possibility. 
Like that's just, that's 

644
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,400
probably the most likely of any 
incidents or accidents. 

645
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,320
That run or your ankle you can 
just an injury crops up and you 

646
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,760
can't run. 
If you're not familiar with the 

647
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,320
footing, that's the other part 
of this isn't That's why this an

648
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,400
old adage for a reason. 
Better to be safe than sorry. 

649
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,200
Yeah. 
So we've we've probably skewed 

650
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,160
more to people training for like
more longer distances that might

651
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,920
go out on courses that, you 
know, before the races and that 

652
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,600
type of thing. 
But you know, it's all worth 

653
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,840
considering. 
So then going on to running 

654
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,120
forms. 
So we'll we'll move through so 

655
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,800
we can talk about your Mylar 
running forms. 

656
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,280
So this article is interesting 
because they said shorten your 

657
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,280
stride short run with a shorter 
stride than road running high. 

658
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,480
Cadence. 
No, no. 

659
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,840
You say no. 
I'm calling bullshit. 

660
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,680
Absolute. 
I'm not sure either who said 

661
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,920
this in this article, but 
they're. 

662
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,280
Why? 
Why not? 

663
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,320
Run how you run, OK, when you 
should. 

664
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,680
The only thing that I've ever 
had someone say to me on the 

665
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,120
trail like, yes, you're going to
need, if you're on a technical 

666
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,040
trail, you may shorten up your 
stride because you're using your

667
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,120
agility to step on a rock or 
step on a stride. 

668
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,240
You might have to chop and 
change your stride. 

669
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,720
So that's different to shorten 
your stride. 

670
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,160
But don't go into the Bush and 
just suddenly go, I'm going to 

671
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,360
run with the shortest stride up 
a hill. 

672
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,440
Like for no reason. 
The only good advice, well, the 

673
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,280
best advice I've been given 
around like stride or thinking 

674
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,840
about cadence in trail, though, 
and Mike Shelley was the one who

675
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,680
used to always say it to me 
going up the hill is don't, oh, 

676
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,400
don't get to a hill and then 
suddenly think you've got to 

677
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,760
like muscle your way up at an 
overstride. 

678
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,640
So our goal was always when we 
got to a hill to hold the same 

679
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,960
cadence, we'd be running on the 
flat. 

680
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,000
So naturally, if you're running 
up a quite a steep hill that 

681
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,480
feels like you're shortening up 
your stride a lot, but you're 

682
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,520
not actually doing anything. 
It's, it's not the purpose of 

683
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,840
thinking about stride length. 
We're purely thinking about 

684
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,520
actually our cadence at that 
point. 

685
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,440
So that's, that's the 
differential. 

686
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,880
So that'd be that tip around 
that. 

687
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,480
The other one which was 
interesting in this article that

688
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,840
I was like, wow, that's weird to
tuck your chin. 

689
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,720
When you're running. 
Yeah, please don't. 

690
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,400
I, I, This is why I was going to
reading through this article 

691
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,040
going just hey, each to their 
own on what you're practising, 

692
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,800
each to your own on how you run 
and what you do. 

693
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:07,200
But I would if you're running on
the trail, and this is, this is 

694
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,040
probably especially downhill 
more so, but as if you're on 

695
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,200
flat trail or even running 
uphill, the same thing. 

696
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,040
You actually want to be looking 
out. 

697
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,880
You want to be scanning the 
train. 

698
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,800
And the quicker you're going, 
the more you actually want to 

699
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,160
have your eyes up looking down 
the trail. 

700
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,120
You don't want to have your eyes
staring at your feet. 

701
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,640
It's no different to riding a 
bike. 

702
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,200
If you're looking down at your 
feet, that's when you're going 

703
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,000
to be the least stable you can 
possibly be. 

704
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,840
You want to be scanning above 
and using like proprioception of

705
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,960
your feet to know where you're 
landing. 

706
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,480
Does that make sense? 
Yeah, yeah. 

707
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,280
Do you know, and I know people, 
I was going to say, I know 

708
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,440
people enjoy these cross sports 
references. 

709
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,280
I don't know if they'd enjoy 
them at all, but I like giving 

710
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,360
them Ricky Ponting this week, 
early this week. 

711
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,800
People might have seen it. 
A really interesting comparison 

712
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,000
that you talk about where your 
field of vision is while 

713
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,320
running. 
Ricky Ponting had a fascinating 

714
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,880
analysis about how he used to 
prepare to bat or the why he 

715
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,280
batted the way he did. 
He would imagine an A4 sheet of 

716
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:07,520
paper on the pitch in a certain 
zone and he basically knew he's 

717
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,880
like, if the bowler was good 
enough to land the ball on that,

718
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,840
a four piece of paper zone that 
I have to leave, like that's 

719
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,480
that's a no hit zone for me. 
That's the area I can't hit at, 

720
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,840
right. 
He's like, if it was short of 

721
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,639
that, I'm pulling If it was full
and and it and then if they 

722
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:27,679
landed it short of that 
inevitable and he pulled it and 

723
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:29,880
never believe me, what they'd do
is they'd over pitch the next 

724
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,159
one and he'd get on his front 
foot. 

725
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,159
That's basically, and then you 
see videos of him batting and 

726
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:36,840
you see this, look, you see 
this. 

727
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,560
He said I would glance down at 
that zone and then I'd look up 

728
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,719
to the bowler. 
And so that idea of you talking 

729
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,159
about there of like, like 
looking to the spot that you're 

730
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:49,800
moving to, not where you are, 
but looking ahead of what's 

731
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,639
coming, yeah, is the parallel. 
Yeah, 100, well, 100%. 

732
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:56,600
I mean, every sport has its cue 
and the quicker you're moving, 

733
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,000
the further up your eyes will be
looking, scanning ahead. 

734
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,120
There's times, I mean, some 
people are going to go off. 

735
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,080
Yeah, got to call you out on it 
a little bit. 

736
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Hey 100% if it's through a rocky
terrain. 

737
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,320
How you got to? 
Run 100% at rocky terrain. 

738
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,440
Sometimes I'm looking right at 
my feet going. 

739
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,240
I'm on that rock or not. 
Or no, Courtney, but you said to

740
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,120
always look ahead. 
I can see you looking your feet.

741
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,960
If it's if it's rocky enough, I 
can guarantee you're looking 

742
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,360
down, but you're using that 
proprioception more than 

743
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,720
actually looking at your feet. 
You need to know what's coming. 

744
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:29,400
I like that. 
What else with is there in here 

745
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,240
that I was just like, come on, 
come on, come on, come on. 

746
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,080
I I did like that in their trail
etiquette. 

747
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,480
They had one earbud out. 
Good. 

748
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,760
One earbud we we stick by that. 
Greet other trail users. 

749
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,600
All the usual stuff around that.
The only other one that was 

750
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,120
weird in there was around 
running form. 

751
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,920
What did they say? 
The exact term was stay dynamic 

752
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,560
through your mid back. 
Someone said to you stay dynamic

753
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:03,240
through your mid back. 
Stay dynamic through your mid 

754
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:05,440
back. 
Well, I'm assuming my mid back 

755
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,960
is beneath my shoulder blades 
but above the base of my spine. 

756
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,800
Relax arms, gentle torso 
rotation, gentle torso. 

757
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,960
But again. 
Run how you run. 

758
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:22,400
Run how you run. 
I don't so they can, so 

759
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,520
hopefully. 
If you get in. 

760
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,480
All I'm going to say is I've 
ticked off my box now to say 

761
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,760
we've talked trail running. 
We I think we've more than 

762
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,200
talked trail running. 
And there's not a lot to 

763
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,240
running. 
That is the point. 

764
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:37,240
But the conclusion of all this 
is, you asked about running. 

765
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:39,880
It ain't that difficult. 
And when you've got to start to 

766
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,920
talk it all out, you're going to
start to make shit up because 

767
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,840
there isn't a lot to running. 
It's common sense. 

768
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,800
If anyone's ever got any direct 
questions, shoot them. 

769
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,360
Through, if you've got specific 
specificity, is what is 

770
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,320
important. 
Andy Gordon and I had this 

771
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,280
conversation. 
Running's hard, but it ain't 

772
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,080
that hard. 
Like you, you Running is hard. 

773
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,840
You can make running hard by the
way you train and by the 

774
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,920
challenges you set yourself and 
by the frequency and the speed 

775
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,800
and everything else. 
Running is hard, but it ain't 

776
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,480
that. 
Hard Yep. 

777
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:10,960
No. 
Just get out and. 

778
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,320
Run. 
Well, let's get onto your mylar 

779
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,320
because it's more important. 
Break it into two. 

780
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,000
OK, we'll get to the coaching 
side and some of the feedback 

781
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,280
for secondary before we get to 
can I start, can I please start 

782
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,240
with this, Courtney? 
Because since I introduced this,

783
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:27,440
this I've had received, there's 
plenty of feedback. 

784
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,320
We're going to get to some of 
it. 

785
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,000
There's questions, there's 
comments and all the rest of 

786
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,200
that. 
But I want to start with an 

787
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,280
audio message from a friend of 
the show Ready. 

788
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,920
Some of you might be familiar 
with Ready from Bondi Rescue, 

789
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,800
but I know from AG1 he's a 
friend of the show. 

790
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,760
I love Ready, but this is the 
voicemail Ready left after the 

791
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,960
announcement last week. 
Hi lads, second time caller, 

792
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,960
long time listener. 
I'm just listening to the latest

793
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:57,160
step and geez, Lane's confident 
in me saying to Courtney this 

794
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,080
time next year I'm going to be a
milah. 

795
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,840
I think you Liam and you know 
we're mates and I love you a lot

796
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,640
but mate you are crazy to think 
that you can just say you're 

797
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,600
going to be a milah and think 
you're going to get through it. 

798
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Do you know how many souls that 
race takes 7500 metres of 

799
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,800
elevation? 
There are more stairs in that 

800
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,560
thing than than five times 
centre point tower like and then

801
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,680
you've got to run 160 K like 
mate, to say you're going to be 

802
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,880
a milah is a stretch. 
I would, I'd be checking 

803
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,960
yourself mate, because you know 
there's there could be a DNF on 

804
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,560
the cards for you. 
He put it a lot nicer than I 

805
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,240
tried to give it to your last 
one actually no, a lot more 

806
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:44,920
harsh. 
I gave it to you in a nice way 

807
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,880
of like you need help. 
Here's what I'm going to tell 

808
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,360
ready and all the other data's 
out there ready. 

809
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,080
I'm going to I'm turning that 
message into a ringtone. 

810
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,240
I'm turning that I am creating a
playlist with that message as 

811
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:01,920
the loop between each song that 
is going to be the Segway 

812
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,440
between each song for my Uta 
Milo playlist. 

813
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:10,040
That is exactly thank you, 
ready, thank you because I want 

814
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,040
all that. 
I want all that pressure. 

815
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,000
I want all that expectation of 
failure. 

816
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,800
And then when I finish, like I 
might write, you know how you 

817
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,600
see rugby league players write, 
you know, fair things that 

818
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,640
matter to them on their wrists 
or simple instructions. 

819
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,160
My wrist might just say F ready 
like that might. 

820
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,080
That's all. 
You're going to get me through 

821
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,680
ready. 
You are going to be the reason I

822
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,960
finished this race. 
You want some? 

823
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,160
You want some more motivation? 
Yeah. 

824
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,560
Let's go. 
Rosie Davies, right in listener 

825
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,880
from the beginning. 
Exciting stuff. 

826
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,000
She's a trail runner, yes. 
Rosie loves the fact you've 

827
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,480
signed up for what she calls the
hardest trail mile. 

828
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,320
Oh. 
Straight into it, didn't realise

829
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:46,920
it was the. 
Hardest. 

830
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,800
Yeah, I'm sure you will have 
many people in mine for help, to

831
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,680
offer your help. 
Yes, there's been a few come in,

832
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,360
but I don't think you've 
actually thought about it 

833
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,240
anymore, have you? 
No, she she's actually 

834
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:01,600
recommending. 
I haven't heard that. 

835
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,840
Romaro Lopez. 
Panina. 

836
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,320
Oh. 
I'm going to need your help with

837
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,800
the pronunciation. 
I'm going I've got to find the 

838
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,440
page. 
To help you through the next few

839
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,000
months, not only training the 
body but the mind. 

840
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,760
Sounds like a bit of mind guru 
as well. 

841
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,640
That is, yeah. 
Well, I said you needed help. 

842
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,040
You did say I needed help. 
You said it real quick too, so. 

843
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,800
He's done some stuff, but he's 
like she now. 

844
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,480
I love this, Rosie. 
Thank you. 

845
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,280
Courtney's right. 
Having a coach have having 

846
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,880
coaching support is a great 
idea. 

847
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,000
Not because you need to get 
through the race, but because it

848
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,680
helps you enjoy the whole 
process, the training, and the 

849
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,040
big day itself. 
Having someone on your side. 

850
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,360
She's going to leave it there. 
They sound like she want to give

851
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,960
plenty more. 
RIP you a bit more. 

852
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,720
Ramiro Lopez. 
I'm just looking at Ramiro 

853
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:53,400
Lopez. 
Pena, I think, was the runner 

854
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,760
there. 
Was a few others keep going. 

855
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:03,920
Which who did I have gonna fit 
running a mile? 

856
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,800
Well question what is OK, here's
here's one. 

857
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,440
Have you got it? 
No, I just found, I can't find 

858
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,600
that much about Ramiro, but it 
says he was the NSW 

859
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,680
representative for the ultra 
running for NSW, Yeah, for the 

860
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,320
ultra running state reps this 
year. 

861
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,840
So. 
Yeah, yeah, I've got apologies. 

862
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,720
There was a few other 
recommendations as well which I 

863
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,600
have missed. 
I'm taking all. 

864
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,600
I'm taking all these 
recommendations on by the way. 

865
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,480
Yeah, we've, we've got them all 
coming in. 

866
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,760
Melanie Barker shed Liam, when 
when are you going to fit? 

867
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,400
When are you going to be fit to 
run a mile or is not the 

868
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,840
question. 
When are you going to be fit to 

869
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,080
run the mile? 
Is not the question. 

870
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,200
What is your why? 
You kind of explained this, 

871
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,040
right? 
I think I explained it a little 

872
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,240
bit last week. 
If this is the first episode, I 

873
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:56,360
I basically the why is because I
want to see where my breaking 

874
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,680
point is. 
And and and you get and Ed and 

875
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,800
you mate. 
And my best mate's going through

876
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,920
the same challenge. 
So I have to bring it back to 

877
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,800
that trail conversation we just 
had about Ed. 

878
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,560
Is Ed's a really important guy, 
Not in my life just as a mate, 

879
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,240
but in my in my running life as 
well because he was not a 

880
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:16,800
runner. 
We played football together. 

881
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,120
I sort of turned into a bit of a
runner in Sydney when I found a 

882
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,760
couple of groups. 
I then dragged Ed into that 

883
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:28,640
world with me and now he is in 
that world like he's done UTA 

884
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,480
100. 
He's actually, you know, he's 

885
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,360
gone deeper into it than I have.
After we did UTA 50 together a 

886
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,720
couple of times. 
We did Red Bull Defiance a 

887
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:41,040
couple of times. 
He's run, he actually, and I 

888
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,920
know this is frowned upon. 
He might have run Sydney 

889
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,640
Marathon under my name one year 
because I couldn't get there. 

890
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:52,720
But we we, we are very much as 
we go through our lives, we've 

891
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:56,040
got kids that are the same age. 
Taking on these challenges 

892
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,800
together is a is a big part of 
my why to your question. 

893
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,720
Yeah. 
So Mel said respect the race 

894
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:06,120
mate, respect yourself enough 
that it's as hard as F course. 

895
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,680
And I will, I would think, OK. 
I let me say so I think, I think

896
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,040
most people have this idea you 
aren't respecting. 

897
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,160
How clarify something? 
You're all OK? 

898
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:25,800
I am a naturally fairly 
outgoing, big talking human 

899
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,440
being. 
All right, this is I work in 

900
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,280
radio. 
My job is to talk sometimes some

901
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,280
bullshit, right? 
For the most part though, my 

902
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:41,720
general attitude to life is a 
happy, excitable, fun outtake on

903
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:44,840
life. 
That does not mean I am being 

904
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:51,560
frivolous or, you know, overly 
relaxed about the prospect of 

905
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,560
the Mila. 
Like I could have come on here 

906
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,840
last week and continuing moving 
forward and being and talked 

907
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,080
about this racing in fearful 
tones with trepidation. 

908
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:03,520
But you know what? 
That would make Courtney a very 

909
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,600
boring podcast. 
It would because we I reckon, I 

910
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,520
mean, I reckon we got majority. 
This is probably the most 

911
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,680
messages just on one topic. 
It's probably since the early 

912
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,480
days of what the fuck episodes, 
but yeah OK, so just keeping it 

913
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,200
I'll finish off with Mel here 
yeah so because then I'll get 

914
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,520
onto these 50K races. 
We've had help and we've got 

915
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,120
some races by the way, I. 
Found a problem, Sorry, keep 

916
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,280
going. 
Set yourself up to succeed. 

917
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,560
It's not a case of just finding 
a 50K race and ticking that box.

918
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,880
Sure, people train bloody hard 
to do those races. 

919
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,400
It's not something to be taken 
lightly. 

920
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,920
I'm all for giving it a crack, 
but do it the right way. 

921
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,320
Look after yourself. 
Thank you, Mel. 

922
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,960
I again, I appreciate that and 
I'm not being sarcastic or 

923
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,400
short. 
I genuinely, I was overwhelmed 

924
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,280
by the responses we've got back 
about me jumping into this race.

925
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,080
Yep, I'm not being frivolous. 
I understand the seriousness of 

926
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,600
it and I am. 
Trust me, I'm going to prepare 

927
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,480
the you know this Courtney, I am
spent. 

928
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,800
I've spent more time in the gym 
in the last month than I have in

929
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:10,320
probably the last four years. 
Getting these I'm like hair 

930
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,600
layering the foundation, laying 
the foundation and layering 

931
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,680
these. 
Keegan now Lovey's hand or farm 

932
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,200
boy Tazzy must be Tazzy fellow. 
Hey Keegan and Congrats. 

933
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,920
He just came back from the 
Queenstown Marathon. 

934
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,720
Great. 
Rent 3 hours 3 minutes. 

935
00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:29,240
Oh, that's a tough course. 
He's a he's AI. 

936
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:31,160
Reckon you can just say I'm in 
the sub 3 club. 

937
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,240
I would give it to you. 
Yeah, I would give it to you. 

938
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,160
Hey, so I've found a bit of a 
problem with my mylar and I know

939
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,360
I've just fired up about not 
being frivolous or overly 

940
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,280
relaxed about all this. 
In order to actually take to the

941
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,480
start line of the mylar, you 
need to have completed a 50K 

942
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,880
plus race within two year 
window. 

943
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:54,960
Yeah. 
But that's what we're going to 

944
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,400
help you with here now, 
listeners have chimed in. 

945
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,560
Yeah, I've had a bit of a deep 
dive. 

946
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,120
Noose is the one that makes 
sense. 

947
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:09,320
Here's the drama. 
So Noosa, the Noosa 50 that says

948
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,080
Noosa Ultra Trail. 
Yeah, the Noosa Ultra Trail 50 

949
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:20,000
is, I'm just finding the dates 
of it, but I'm pretty sure it is

950
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,680
the weekend after which you have
to have submitted your your, 

951
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,680
your 50K raise. 
Yeah. 

952
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,800
So this, this is where don't 
don't fret, don't fret. 

953
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:38,000
So we've got a few options here.
One is Tarawera in New Zealand. 

954
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,200
OK, great. 50K through the 
through the Redwood forest. 

955
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,840
An expensive solution to my. 
Problem. 

956
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:49,720
So that came in from Keegan. 
Thank you Keegan, but an 

957
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:51,240
expensive solution. 
Is my problem. 

958
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,160
This one? 
I like the sound more because 

959
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,080
he's local down there. 
Obviously on the recent episode 

960
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,120
50, the gone nuts on the 
northwest coast of Tassie is a 

961
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,600
102 kilometre run. 
I'm not doing that. 

962
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,200
No, no, listen, you can do it in
a relay. 

963
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,600
He's wondering whether if you 
get the 50K out done in a relay,

964
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,960
whether it counts. 
He reckons it's a great, great 

965
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,040
race down there. 
Me and my maid to plan and doing

966
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:15,880
that I could. 
Look into it. 

967
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,320
That's the end of Feb down in 
Tassie. 

968
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,720
Here's what I think my 
solution's going to be. 

969
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,000
A very polite, well worded, 
convincing email. 

970
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,200
No, don't just. 
I'm gonna, I'm gonna stop. 

971
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,560
I'm gonna stop you there, Liam. 
Why I don't pick? 

972
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,640
So the 15th of. 
March of hard now more hard 

973
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,520
feedback. 
OK, 15th of March is the cut off

974
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,040
to to have your 50 kilometre 
race submitted to UTA. 

975
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:50,200
You can also attempt to resubmit
if there's any issues by the 

976
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,320
30th of March. 
Now Noosa Ultra is on the 21st 

977
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,600
of March. 
Okay, so it would sit in that 

978
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,920
kind of grey area window. 
Okay, I'll let you go with the 

979
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,360
grey for the moment. 
Okay, what else you got for me? 

980
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,400
No, I'm just calling, yeah. 
It was interesting though, 

981
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,600
because I was talking to Wade 
Lees at Momentum Gym, the gym 

982
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,600
where I'm training at the 
moment. 

983
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,040
I was talking him about this 
very dilemma and I said do you 

984
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,080
think I'd be I should because 
there's a 50K race, not a lot of

985
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:21,680
it's about 900 metres and then 
there's an 80K race. 

986
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,160
Do you think I should enter the 
88 and use it as a training 

987
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,200
exercise and why? 
I just was like, do the 50. 

988
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,440
Don't put wear and tear on your 
body unnecessarily. 

989
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,960
If you're that close to your 
event, don't go on. 

990
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,080
Or if you're doing it in March, 
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for 

991
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,680
sure. 
But if you were training up for 

992
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,680
something more in summer, it 
might be good to get over 

993
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,800
607080. 
Oh, over the summer months I'll 

994
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,920
get. 
This What's this one the 80K 

995
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,800
Bondi to manly ultra. 
Oh, that's that's at the end of 

996
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,200
the that's. 
At the end of the year. 

997
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,160
That one's. 
I missed that. 

998
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,720
I missed that. 
No, Why? 

999
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:58,880
I was going to say we can't, you
can't write in for an email 

1000
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,080
exception. 
I thought you were going down 

1001
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,400
the exception. 
We're being we're also being 

1002
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,840
called out. 
You can't, we can't call out 

1003
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,400
influences. 
Yeah. 

1004
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,320
And then expect to get like 
leeway ourselves. 

1005
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,440
That's true because we had to 
then just influence. 

1006
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,440
That's true. 
That's true. 

1007
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,960
And I do not want to be true. 
I don't want to be. 

1008
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,360
I don't want to be in that 
bucket, Liam. 

1009
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:18,880
That's. 
True. 

1010
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,800
That's true. 
Have I, have I been, have I 

1011
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,680
copped some hate about 
influencing behaviour? 

1012
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,160
Yeah. 
Have I really? 

1013
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,040
Yeah, I haven't seen those ones.
I've copped some strays about 

1014
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,920
influencing. 
Fair enough. 

1015
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,400
I. 
Don't know, we can't pull out 

1016
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,000
just because you've now got 
runners listening to you. 

1017
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,520
You can't pull out the the the 
influencing. 

1018
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,920
Don't you know who I am? 
Damn it, It's the only reason I 

1019
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,880
started. 
This We'll find you a 50. 

1020
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,040
There's a few around. 
There's a few. 

1021
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,000
Around I'm going to sign up to 
new Noosa Ultra anyway because 

1022
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,480
it is a race I want to do. 
I've done the 24K run and I just

1023
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,400
figure it's a nice one to plug 
into my calendar. 

1024
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,160
And also interestingly, and this
is the other challenge that I 

1025
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,920
have with my life, I now have to
start cross referencing it with 

1026
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,640
the AFL calling calendar. 
And so that weekend of Noosa 

1027
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,160
Ultra there is a the Suns have 
got to buy and the lines are 

1028
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,360
playing away. 
So I will have the weekend. 

1029
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,640
Off from it's free and so we 
unless you get called to Sydney.

1030
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,160
I might do get to call to 
Sydney, but yeah, if I said to 

1031
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,360
them I'm up to nurse at around 
50 kilometres, they'd probably 

1032
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:26,280
say you're an idiot anyway. 
Hey, in short, can I just just 

1033
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,760
are you done with my Mila or do 
you have more? 

1034
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:29,880
I I'm. 
Definitely, you're done. 

1035
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,120
With your Mila, can I just say a
couple of things because, but 

1036
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:37,520
look, I'm going to continue to 
talk about this event, this 

1037
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,600
training in this vein because 
that's just how I approach 

1038
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,680
running. 
I'll it's sometimes I might seem

1039
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,360
glib. 
Trust me, I understand the 

1040
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,720
severity of it, but I'm 
continue, I'm going to continue 

1041
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,800
to talk about it. 
Which we want, we don't want to 

1042
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,480
change. 
I will say very quickly, I am 

1043
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,320
planning. 
I will plan some for those 

1044
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,320
people that have hit me up 
asking about it. 

1045
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,880
My brother in law summed it up 
beautifully when he just said to

1046
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,360
me, he's like, how the hell do 
you train for 100 Mile Rise? 

1047
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,080
That I'm going to unpack over 
this. 

1048
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,680
Like I'm going to come with some
with some episodes and some 

1049
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,080
information as I go about this. 
Learning nutrition, training 

1050
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,600
equipment, all that sort of 
stuff. 

1051
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,920
I know. 
I've got, I won't say it now, 

1052
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,120
OK, but I've got the guy for 
you. 

1053
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,560
Great Brit, our favourite 
physio. 

1054
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,360
Yes. 
Sent me the man go. 

1055
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,640
Local. 
No, Yeah. 

1056
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:30,160
Can you guess who? 
You might be able to guess who 

1057
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,440
local. 
No, no, no, no, no. 

1058
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:35,480
To help train. 
Yeah. 

1059
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,800
Anyway, OK, it's TBCTBC. 
OK, Well, I want to throw you. 

1060
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,600
I don't want to throw you in 
case you don't want to go down 

1061
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,240
that road. 
But I think, I think I've got 

1062
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:46,040
the solution for you. 
I think you'll like it. 

1063
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,760
Yeah. 
And then we can then help share 

1064
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,640
some of that info because I 
think in the end, that's where 

1065
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,960
it's going to come best from as 
a coach. 

1066
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,000
For what it's worth, I found 
some great training stairs 

1067
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,880
through the weekend. 
I found a really nice little 

1068
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,720
section just running up over 
Burleigh Head. 

1069
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:04,920
And then if you go up the back 
around the sort of head back up,

1070
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,760
there's a great little set of 
stairs that lead you. 

1071
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,040
It would then take you back down
the boardwalk into kind of Flaze

1072
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,760
area there, but. 
Oh, you mean that like it cuts 

1073
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,120
through so instead of running up
the. 

1074
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,320
Instead of running up the road 
hill, there's a there's other. 

1075
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,280
They're good stairs. 
Yeah, that's the recovery stairs

1076
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,160
to come down. 
So if you're, if you're doing 

1077
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,120
like a lot of the groups will do
hill reps there. 

1078
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,000
Yeah, up to the water tower are.
They recovery stairs, are they? 

1079
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:29,720
Well, you you cut down through 
there. 

1080
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:32,680
So instead of going, needing is 
a perfect place because you. 

1081
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,240
Would almost do it the other way
and run the stairs and recover 

1082
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:36,840
on the road. 
Well, that's an option if you 

1083
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,360
wanted to work the stairs, but 
if you run up like say do the 

1084
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,280
800 metre stretch up and then 
you can keep running up towards 

1085
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,560
the water tower so you don't 
have to do a full, you know. 

1086
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,000
Equal rest which? 
Cut down through the steps and 

1087
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,280
it halves your rest. 
There you go. 

1088
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,520
I ran that the other day. 
Good spot. 

1089
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:52,760
It was a great spot. 
It's a good spot. 

1090
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,320
We talk about big runs in 
Australia like City to Surf 

1091
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,160
90,000 runners a few weekends 
ago. 

1092
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:07,240
The Dubai run 307,000 runners in
one race. 

1093
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,560
Over 300,000 runners in one 
race. 

1094
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,440
So the links there all on one 
Rd. 

1095
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,920
This was how far was the event? 
Crazy. 

1096
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,680
How far was the race? 
No idea. 

1097
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,920
You know, I don't go that far 
into the research, especially 

1098
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:33,040
this week. 305,000 people in the
Dubai run. 

1099
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,520
Yeah, 300. 
Oh yeah, I'm just saying. 

1100
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,960
So some videos of it, it's and 
and all. 

1101
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:40,960
You know what's even nicer, and 
I think this is something we 

1102
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,800
probably miss a little bit here 
in Australia, Do you know who do

1103
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,360
it really well? 
Red Bull used to do Wings for 

1104
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,080
Life, World run, the charity run
and then everyone in the race, 

1105
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,200
if you ended, part of the 
donation was you'd get a shirt, 

1106
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,880
the same coloured shirt, so 
everyone would wear it. 

1107
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,240
It's blue, but I'm just looking 
at the video of this, every 

1108
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,040
single person's in a blue, like 
a, a sky blue shirt. 

1109
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:01,800
It looks amazing. 
I. 

1110
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:07,680
Always marvel at NBA games 
because NBA stadiums do it so 

1111
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:12,040
incredibly well during finals. 
Oklahoma City Thunder, who won 

1112
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:17,560
the NBA championship this year 
at their home games, there is a 

1113
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,200
T-shirt waiting on every seat. 
So if you are if you are in the 

1114
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,920
crowd for that final and it's 
And that's the just to. 

1115
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,480
The unwritten rule. 
Work it into the ticket. 

1116
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,360
Price put the T shirt on put the
like and so when the camera so 

1117
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,800
it looks unbelievable I'm. 
Telling college like the college

1118
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,240
stadiums for NFL. 
Good on. 

1119
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:39,640
And, and I, and I, what I think,
and again, it comes back to a, 

1120
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,000
you know, it's kind of the 
reason you and I love doing this

1121
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,240
podcast and talking about the 
things we do is because sport 

1122
00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:48,880
has that unique ability to, for 
everyone to put whatever shit 

1123
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,920
they have elsewhere in their 
life aside for the duration of 

1124
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,840
whatever the sport is, whether 
it's a game of football, soccer,

1125
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,000
a run, whatever it is, 
everything else goes away. 

1126
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,040
And it's all just about that 
moment, that thing, that team. 

1127
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,040
And so the idea of putting on a 
T shirt for a game of basketball

1128
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,120
isn't a big ask. 
It doesn't offend anything in my

1129
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,960
life because I want to get 
behind this and I want to be a 

1130
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,120
part of something bigger. 
And looking at this video of 

1131
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,200
this Dubai run, that's another 
thing where you go, I tell you 

1132
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,720
what races around the world if 
you want to, if you're at that 

1133
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:26,920
point, where the next question 
you're asking yourself is how do

1134
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,160
we make this look visually even 
better? 

1135
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,040
A single uniform like that sure 
as hell makes it look. 

1136
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,120
I'm just hoping this is an AI 
because it like this. 

1137
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:41,080
Oh you questioning? 
I'm looking at it now, cynic. 

1138
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,080
Look at the, IT does look a bit 
too. 

1139
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,800
Perfect. 
Yeah, there's like Sky I'm. 

1140
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,080
It does look a bit. 
Too Anyway, like hey, we're 

1141
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,640
getting called out every week 
anyway on stuff to us out if 

1142
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,640
this is wrong, it looks pretty. 
Well, the Dubai run, it's a 

1143
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:55,520
legit. 
It's a legit. 

1144
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,880
Run OK Dubai Fitness Challenge 
inviting runners of all ages and

1145
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,000
abilities to take over the 
Sheikh Zayed Rd. 

1146
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,840
It's a mass. 
It was free. 

1147
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,040
Ah. 
It was free mass participation 

1148
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,800
event. 
Well, you obviously got a free 

1149
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,640
T-shirt it. 
Transformed the city into one 

1150
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,360
giant running track with 
participants passing landmarks 

1151
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,640
such as the Museum of the 
Future, Emirates Tower to buy 

1152
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,520
opera and the Burj Khalifa. 
Options included the 10 

1153
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,520
kilometre route for more 
experienced runners as well as a

1154
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,240
flat family friendly 5K route. 
So there you go, that's how you,

1155
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:27,000
I mean, we know that there are 
another. 

1156
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,640
Here's another cross board 
example for you. 

1157
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,200
AFLW Grand Final. 
The biggest ever attendance to a

1158
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,280
women's football game happened 
at Adelaide Oval. 

1159
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,760
I can't remember the year off 
the top of my head. 

1160
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,040
Adelaide Crows were in the 
final. 

1161
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,960
They had 50,000 plus people 
there. 

1162
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:43,720
Yep it was free. 
The gates were open the day of 

1163
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:46,880
recording, the day people will 
be hearing this, the AFLW grand 

1164
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,200
final between North Melbourne 
and Brisbane Lions, which will 

1165
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,680
be, from a purely football 
spectacle, a much better game 

1166
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,240
than that one was in Adelaide. 
12 1/2 thousand people at a 

1167
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:58,600
ticketed Icon Stadium. 
Now it's sold out. 

1168
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,360
It is sold. 
Out No. 

1169
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,800
No. 
No, it's in Melbourne, the game 

1170
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,720
is in, it's sold out, which is 
great and it's a testament to 

1171
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:09,720
where that league has got to. 
But ticketed 12 1/2 thousand 

1172
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,560
versus. 
Free 50,000. 

1173
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,680
So explain that to me. 
It's in Melbourne, yeah. 

1174
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,960
Wouldn't they hold it a bigger 
stadium because they fearful 

1175
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,520
they wouldn't feel it? 
OK, because if you you couldn't 

1176
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,640
take it to the MCG because what 
would it look like if the 

1177
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:28,520
biggest game of the season for 
this league was played to 1/2 

1178
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,920
empty, 3/4 empty stadium so. 
Guarantee a sell out. 

1179
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,200
Guarantee a sell out, guarantee 
a great visual perspective and 

1180
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,480
that's what the Dubai Run has 
done by making this incredible 

1181
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:38,960
free event. 
Look, Dubai is not short of 

1182
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,480
cash. 
It's not like they need. 

1183
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,240
It looks like they've given 
everyone a free T-shirt as well,

1184
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,720
and they've. 
Given everyone a free T shirt, 

1185
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,160
it does look great though. 
That looks very. 

1186
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,960
Cool. 
Hey, across to talking about 

1187
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,040
running and just how things are 
the flop of the Schoolies run 

1188
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,360
club. 
Yes, going over to Philadelphia.

1189
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,560
How this was in the? 
States right, they're dropping 

1190
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:05,800
the charges or reducing the 
charges of inmates who commit to

1191
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,120
running. 
What are they running? 

1192
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,080
1/2 marathon. 
Half marathon. 

1193
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,800
Build up to 1/2 marathon within 
the obviously within the gaol. 

1194
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:21,360
Now let's provide context. 
Teenagers, yes, so not adults, 

1195
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:28,280
they are already enrolled in a 
programme called Mylap, which is

1196
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:33,560
a diversion programme that gives
young people an opportunity to 

1197
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,760
move forward. 
There's obviously it's not just 

1198
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,760
the running, there will be other
elements to this and it's also 

1199
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,880
specific offences. 
So the the. 

1200
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,520
There's a lot of. 
There's a lot of yeah, exactly. 

1201
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,560
So it's said such as vandalism 
and auto theft. 

1202
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,000
So look, hey, we're on the Gold 
Coast. 

1203
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,720
We're on the Gold Coast. 
Youth crime is a problem here as

1204
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:58,920
it is. 
We're seeing it in Melbourne. 

1205
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:06,960
Melbourne's shocking right now. 
Any I, I am all for solutions. 

1206
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:14,040
Yep, no matter how left of 
field, that give particularly 

1207
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,480
young people, particularly young
people, the opportunity to turn 

1208
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,160
their life around from where it 
might be heading. 

1209
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,720
Well, in the right way when 
running or sport in general, 

1210
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,200
like good training structure it 
that helps with that discipline.

1211
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,040
Then ongoing, whether it's 
sticks is another thing, but at 

1212
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,600
least it's teaching. 
It's the same with kids sport 

1213
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,200
and why I think, you know, even 
kids sport at really elite high 

1214
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,520
level. 
Sometimes those kids, you know, 

1215
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,440
you might argue well, they spent
way too much time of their youth

1216
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,760
doing, you know, trying to get 
to a point and never maybe get 

1217
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,280
there. 
But those lessons, you know, 

1218
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,800
those lessons in the structures 
you learn doing that they, they 

1219
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,920
work in every other, you know, 
former life, whether you go into

1220
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,840
a job or whether you know day to
day or family, whatever. 

1221
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:03,200
Well, the the data of the this 
story says that the District 

1222
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,800
Attorney attorney's office of 
Philadelphia says the programme 

1223
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,080
is keeping teens out of the 
criminal justice system. 

1224
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,440
So if it's if there's signs that
it's working, if there's green 

1225
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,320
shoots, well, when you keep 
trying it and look, if, if the 

1226
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,040
local government here wanted to 
try it, I'd get behind it, but 

1227
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,400
happily. 
Jump on board a programme like 

1228
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,280
that because, yeah, people do 
deserve second chances. 

1229
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:30,840
Yeah, we, you mentioned who was 
the male mate who just came back

1230
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,800
from farm boy, Tassie Kagan. 
Kagan, who just ran the 

1231
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,480
Queenstown Marathon. 
Yes. 

1232
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,840
Did you see? 
Because we love a bit of brand 

1233
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,440
activation. 
Yeah, pre marathon. 

1234
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:42,880
Well, I saw it because you sent 
it to me. 

1235
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,280
What did you think of this for 
those that haven't seen it? 

1236
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:50,480
New Balance, who I think that 
they are, they do activations 

1237
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,240
really well. 
I think New Balance are a 

1238
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,920
strong, clever brand. 
They activated the Queensland 

1239
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,840
Marathon with toasties, so they 
had. 

1240
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,680
Branded Toasties. 
Branded New Balance toasties. 

1241
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,520
I love this. 
So they had a set up you could 

1242
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,560
buy the Rebel, the elite. 
They had three different types 

1243
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,880
of toasties that you could go 
and buy and it was packaged. 

1244
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,120
Oh, you. 
Had to buy them, they weren't 

1245
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,120
given. 
Oh no, sorry, they were giving 

1246
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,920
away that they were giving away.
But what a great way to get 

1247
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,680
people literally consuming your 
brand. 

1248
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,240
Yeah, before a marathon, I 
thought this was a great bit of 

1249
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:22,680
branding. 
I. 

1250
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,920
Like my take on it is, yeah, 
it's a it's a good one. 

1251
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,360
It's that's where we're at at 
the moment. 

1252
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,680
You have to do something so left
to feel for us. 

1253
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:38,240
Or when I say ask for the 
consumer to go, oh, well, I 

1254
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,440
noticed that brand. 
And The funny thing is it's got 

1255
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,400
nothing to do with running. 
You're just adding value. 

1256
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,680
You're just adding value. 
You're just adding value to a 

1257
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,720
consumer and putting your it's 
like, what's the toast you got 

1258
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:49,840
to do with buying a pair of 
shoes? 

1259
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,600
This is pure branding now, 
honestly, like, you know, at 

1260
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,920
this point in in this, at this 
point, running has become so 

1261
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:02,080
saturated with brands. 
That's where we're at, running 

1262
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,560
brands doing non running 
activations just so they can get

1263
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,360
noticed in a space do. 
You think that's a good thing? 

1264
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,600
Do you think it's a bad thing? 
Do you think it's just the way 

1265
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,280
it is? 
I just think it's the way it is.

1266
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,720
I think it's a smart move. 
Like we're not talking about any

1267
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,560
of the other brands who probably
were doing some type of Expo or 

1268
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,960
trial or tube trial. 
At least we've we're talking 

1269
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,800
about a New Balances brand. 
Yeah, because I do toasties. 

1270
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,640
I think at this, I think at this
point it, it's getting to that. 

1271
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,520
Like that was like that other 
activation I forgot. 

1272
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,120
And look, this is, I can't even 
remember the brand, but the 

1273
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,720
drip, it was some type of 
hydration. 

1274
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,360
And at the London Marathon. 
They had the petrol valves, 

1275
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:48,120
hydration station. 
Hydration station, Yeah, I can't

1276
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,280
remember who now say. 
If Gatorade did that, I would 

1277
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,720
remember it like a a like an 
already known brand. 

1278
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,160
Yeah, like a. 
Pure sport, Pure sport, Who did 

1279
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,960
it? 
So if it was a brand that we 

1280
01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:03,280
already have to, you know, like 
a established brand is probably 

1281
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,160
where I'm going. 
If an established brand did 

1282
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:06,760
that, I would have remembered 
that forever. 

1283
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,200
OK, still a great thing because 
at the time we probably were 

1284
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,960
talking about pure sport, but 
it's like you've got to be so 

1285
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,720
far out of the box now to get 
actual real momentum. 

1286
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,480
Yeah, it's, you know, as you 
say, running is saturated and 

1287
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:21,640
people got to find ways to get 
noticed. 

1288
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,480
Do you remember 40 years ago? 
Cool Runnings? 

1289
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,080
Kidding me, it's 40. 
I can't believe 40 years. 

1290
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,480
Old shut up. 
That's not 40 years old. 

1291
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,880
Nearly 40 years old, that is. 
Cool Runnings, one of the 

1292
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,720
greatest family movies of all 
time. 

1293
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,360
Nah, you're way off. 
It's 3032 years old. 

1294
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,520
Was it came out in 1993? 
OK, no you don't. 

1295
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:42,720
Just bonus that up. 
That would. 

1296
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,880
That made me feel terribly, 
terribly old just then, because 

1297
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:50,560
I remember that movie so 
distinctly international 

1298
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,000
bobsled. 
Kiss the egg. 

1299
01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:00,080
Well, maybe they did, because 
international bobsled Olympic 

1300
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,360
competition, they Jamaica just 
won their first gold medal. 

1301
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,640
Did they really bobsled? 
It's true. 

1302
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,560
It's it's, it's become true. 
Are you serious? 

1303
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,360
I am dead serious. 
The Jamaican bobsled team has 

1304
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,800
captured it's first ever gold 
medal. 

1305
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,400
At what event the at? 
They're like, it must be like a 

1306
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:25,720
world, like a, like a World Cup.
Nearly 40 years after ranking. 

1307
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,760
Yeah, see, they're bonusing the 
story as well last weekend by 

1308
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,880
capturing his first year of the 
gold medal at an international 

1309
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:36,240
bobsled competition. 
The team need out Canada to win 

1310
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,920
gold of the International 
Bobsang Skills and Federation's 

1311
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,480
North American Cup in Whistler. 
Wow. 

1312
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,360
Now, see, if you told me that 
was like the Caribbean Bobsang 

1313
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,120
Championships, I would have been
less impressed. 

1314
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,640
But if that's North America, 
you're beating proper Winter 

1315
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,240
Olympic countries. 
Holy hell. 

1316
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,080
And of course, this was born out
of sprinting. 

1317
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:56,720
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
There you go. 

1318
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,880
I talk. 
About how about I draw? 

1319
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,600
How about I draw a line down the
middle of your head so it looks 

1320
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,160
like a butt? 
Another one of my favourite 

1321
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,960
quotes from that movie. 
Oh you're good, you're good. 

1322
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,960
I am just jumping back to that 
rebel thing because I'm on a 

1323
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:10,760
rant here. 
Yes. 

1324
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,040
What do you reckon of this one? 
Salomon have joined forces with 

1325
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,840
Beyond the Valley Festival. 
I saw this, I got the email. 

1326
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,800
For a run club. 
Yes, and you can. 

1327
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,160
I could because I've purchased 
something from Salomon recently.

1328
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,480
I'm eligible to enter the draw 
to win myself a ticket, shoes a 

1329
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:31,120
ticket, a whole VIP experience. 
So I'm all, I'm all for it. 

1330
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,760
I love it, but I'm also a 
sceptic. 

1331
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:39,280
In me is kind of also going 
schoolies. 

1332
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,840
We tried to run club, Yep. 
Beyond the valley now they've 

1333
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,280
had at different festivals, 
fitness, Yep. 

1334
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,040
Things like the yoga and that 
style of thing. 

1335
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:53,760
Are you going to a proper proper
festival and then worried about 

1336
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,560
running in the morning? 
OK. 

1337
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:02,720
And are you going to turn up in 
a pair of your A ACSS or XT 

1338
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,960
Fours? 
I I think what? 

1339
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:05,840
You're wearing. 
Right. 

1340
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,360
I think you would, I think you 
would turn up in Salomons 

1341
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,840
because they're a very cool 
style issue and I think the kids

1342
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,200
appreciate. 
That's what I'm asking, are they

1343
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,200
turning up in the running shoes 
or are they still wearing their 

1344
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,280
XT their sport style shoes from 
the night? 

1345
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,280
No, I think they wear the sport 
style shoes. 

1346
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,920
It's a look I get. 
I get what you're saying. 

1347
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:27,640
Can fitness culture, running 
culture It's. 

1348
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,120
Happened in like when the 
running is the the. 

1349
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,320
When running's been out front, 
yes. 

1350
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,880
Now you're attempting to bring 
running at least alongside with 

1351
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,800
the party atmosphere of a 
festival. 

1352
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,080
Much harder to do. 
Much, much harder to do. 

1353
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:47,800
Is it even achievable at all? 
That Wonderlust festival we 

1354
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,600
talked about actually went ahead
few. 

1355
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,680
Weekends ago. 
Next time we went up there and 

1356
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,360
dropped the 258 marathon. 
Well, that's the only reason I 

1357
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:55,760
saw it the. 
Only reason I saw it too. 

1358
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,920
Yeah, but that's a running 
festival first. 

1359
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,520
That was that had running 
fitness out in front. 

1360
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,520
Yeah, all the other stuff behind
it. 

1361
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,840
So look, I'll be really 
interested to see if Salomon how

1362
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:12,160
how they go because if any brand
is capable of doing it, I would 

1363
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,480
say they are because of the 
coolness factor. 

1364
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,320
We talked about this with Pete. 
For those that missed the 

1365
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,480
earlier episode in the year with
Pete from Salomon, it's a very 

1366
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,560
cool brand. 
It's probably the brand that 

1367
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,160
most attaches itself to that 
festival vibe. 

1368
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,560
So if anyone's going to be able 
to make that transition, I would

1369
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,880
think Salomon would be one of 
the brands that could achieve 

1370
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:35,040
it. 
Do people want to bring the 

1371
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,360
fitness part of their life and 
the health part of their life to

1372
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,160
the festival environment? 
I'd have to see it to be 

1373
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,040
convinced. 
Yeah, if you're. 

1374
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,720
Starting something from scratch?
Much more achievable if you're 

1375
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,840
trying to turn the boat on 
something a lot harder. 

1376
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,680
Yeah, I reckon it's one of those
ones too. 

1377
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:53,920
You'd have to be there to see 
it. 

1378
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,000
Like I don't think you'll be 
able to believe the videos. 

1379
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,920
No, this is you. 
This is the Dubai run again. 

1380
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,960
You're sceptical of AI? 
You think it'll be AI, don't 

1381
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,600
you? 
No, I just think you can, you 

1382
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,520
can, you can take, you can take 
a camera. 

1383
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,000
Highlighting I say this to and 
this is what I'll say to 

1384
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,560
everybody. 
It's a good note as I begin to 

1385
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,160
document my journey towards the 
Mylar. 

1386
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,640
Highlights are called highlights
for a reason. 

1387
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:19,240
It's the best bits, right? 
So unless somebody is is posting

1388
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:23,560
videos of themselves on the 
floor, dying, throwing up, 

1389
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,640
having a horrible time, just 
take everything with a grain of 

1390
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,680
salt. 
Yeah, and vertical video leaves 

1391
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,640
a lot out too. 
You know when you cut if there's

1392
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,840
only so much you can fit in that
vertical screen? 

1393
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,040
All right, hey, quickly before 
we finish up, I do want to, 

1394
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,399
well, we always say we should do
this at the top and we always 

1395
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:42,240
forget. 
Subscribe, subscribe, subscribe,

1396
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,319
subscribe. 
The more you subscribe, the more

1397
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:46,840
we can do great stuff. 
Share this with your friends, 

1398
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,479
people that are thinking about 
running, especially if you've 

1399
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,399
got someone in your life that is
thinking about trail running or 

1400
01:08:52,399 --> 01:08:54,840
wants to get into trail running 
or you want to take somebody 

1401
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,600
trail running with you. 
Send them this episode, drag 

1402
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,319
them along. 
Can we give a big shout out to 

1403
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:05,000
our friends at the Gold Coast 
Marathon who took out the 

1404
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,359
Brisbane Convention and 
Exhibition Centre Queensland 

1405
01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:09,399
Sport Event of the Year award? 
Oh. 

1406
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,680
Wow, congratulations. 
Earlier this week, recognising 

1407
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,399
it as just the bloody best event
that it is. 

1408
01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:17,920
Which is why we said this Team 
100 is going to run like 

1409
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,680
clockwork on the Goldie and we 
will get on to that team and try

1410
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,479
and work that out. 
Put that at the top of your To 

1411
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,080
Do List. 
Now I'm on it. 

1412
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,000
All right, we'll see you next 
week.