In the beginning podcast episode 63 and straight off the top
Courtney, a hypothetical if you please.
Yeah, this one's for you Liam. I'm not a golfer, but for you
what's tougher, running a sub 330 marathon or breaking 100 in
a round of golf? Gutfield says it's harder to run
a 330 marathon than break 100. Really.
That's. Putting the content Gutfield non
for the non golfers which I reckon majority of runners
probably are, don't really go hand in hand running in golf.
Although speed golf is something I do wanna try.
Golf, yeah, but how hard is it to hit a?
OK, so the average, average golf course has a power of 72, which
means if you play to each course to the number of strokes, you'd
hit 72. So you're averaging, you're
hitting 27 / a par, which means you're averaging A bogey and a
half a hole. So if it's a par three, you'll
hit a four or A5. That's tough.
If it's a par 4, you hit a 5 or a six, and if it's a par 4,
etcetera. Like, if you're not a golfer,
that's tough. Like anyone who's gone and had a
hack around a golf course, Sure, that's.
Really tough. I I'm not both are hard.
Both of these, both things can be true.
Both of these things are difficult to achieve.
We've talked about before in this podcast the the Strava
numbers that reflect the average pace people run at and the
average marathon time, and it's a lot slower than 330I guess the
reason I go with running being harder is because I think
running is physically more taxing than golf for a start.
So immediately, OK, here we go. So immediately, golf is the
easiest sport to participate in because some people physically
aren't capable. Well, there's a lot of people
who have never If you haven't picked a Golf Club up in your
life and you go to the hole and try and tee off, I reckon you've
got about one chance in 10 of giving that ball anywhere.
I think no, no, no. I, I you'll.
Get you're giving golf way too much credit the.
Amount of time it takes to improve and correct your golf
swing. Not to not to play pro, not to
go onto or not to shoot par. But to get a golf swing to the
point of being able to shoot under 100 is far more achievable
than getting somebody with no base fitness to run a marathon,
let alone run it in sub 330 pace.
Yeah, because that what? What?
Context here it depends. I'm I'm thinking the marathon is
a lot easier from my perspective of.
Course you think it's easy. You could roll out.
You could roll out a bit and roll some.
Trainability too. Golf is, I think it's golf's way
more trainable. If you've never run and you've
never played golf, I can guarantee you're going to run
better than you play golf. Everyone can run.
Not everyone can pick up a stick and hit a golf ball straight or
hit a golf ball at all. Yeah, everyone can run for 100
metres. Yeah, or a.
Kilometre blame the Canadians, blame the Canadians for this.
It's Canadian running and I thought what a topic that.
Is a good hypothetical, I'm sticking with it.
I reckon a sub 3:30 is harder than a sub hundred round of golf
because I reckon I've run. I've run a sub 330 more recently
than I've run and then I've played actually now that.
Yeah, she hit under 100. Yeah, Yeah, Come on.
That was a confident that was that was quick and.
Confident, yeah, yeah, come on, we should play a game of golf.
We we should do this. We we keep on talking about
catching up outside the podcast and then we say we'll talk about
it on the podcast. Have you got any big topics for
us this week? Liam, what do you got?
Look, I mean, I've got to get to the Mylar because we we won't do
it now. We'll get to it a bit later.
But geez, the feedback has come thick and fast off the back of
just a Miller announcement. Just just just.
Jumping in off, you know, fresh and just saying I'm going to go
and run 160K. There's been, there's been
plenty of feedback. Can I go?
You and I need to apologise. We have, we have left massive.
We we often need to apologise. Feedback from feedback from a
lot of people about the T100 Oh yeah, on the Gold Coast has been
outstanding. From Gold Coast.
Yes from from people wanting to be a part of it right the 10K
race, the T100 itself. I've had a lot of great feedback
and again people, this is the way to start your running 2026
with the T110K event. Why didn't we set up a run
group? Yeah, that's why blame me on
this. The amount of people who've had
hit me up going I'm registered. I assumed I'd be able to join
the in the beginning team. Why don't we have a team?
I didn't even know there was a team.
We can no, but we can do that. Yeah, well, and ever since I've
seen those messages, yeah, I've had it on my 2D list to do.
It well, get rid of all that other Red Bull stuff that you've
got to do. I haven't had time in the
beginning stuff to the top. I'll tell you what, the while
we're talking running and on the Gold Coast, let's could we we
have been talking about this on the radio show.
So what's this one? This is about the reinvention
the new breed of schoolies. Oh yeah, didn't.
Didn't didn't go down too well. He let's just let's let the.
News. Tell the story, Yeah.
Well, official events put on for schoolies on the Gold Coast have
drawn varying crowds. The first Schoolies Run Club has
failed to inspire the thousands of party people.
Just one answered the call this morning.
Zach, though, wasn't put off by the lack of running partners.
Still gonna go, gonna do it. Yeah, amazing.
You know, looks. Like a pretty good runner so.
You know, as I said, maybe a future run club leader for
Saturdays who knows 7 News called Zack's parents who were
understandably thrilled their 17 year old is being so
responsible. Maybe, maybe the hype isn't what
what we believe. That is, how do you?
That's a flop. Enormous flop.
Like, let's call it what it is. And the fact the news that they
are waiting. I actually think it's a win for
news. I think that's from a if I'm a
like in radio, when we do these things, when we come up with
these ideas and look, I'll give you some context day of
recording this, you and I tomorrow my radio show is
attempting a big event, attempting an idea.
This is the tin reversing the tinny.
The boat ramp chance. Yes, this is gold, this.
It right so context of this, if you don't listen to the radio
show 2-3 months ago, one of my Co host Spider made a comment
that he loves and he used to love nothing more than going
down with a bag of hot chips and watching people try and reverse
their boats in Yep, at the boat ramp.
That single sentence in my brain went Oh my God, we need to host
an event where we find the best boat ramp launcher.
True spectator sport. True spectator sport.
OK, so we've been attempting to put this thing together.
Tomorrow is the day tomorrow we are going to be at a boat Jabiru
Island boat ramp here in on the gold we've.
Got guaranteed entries. We've got 5 finalists.
A finalists. Yeah, yeah, we've got 5
finalists. How did we open a registration?
Right. Yeah, right.
And they have to like submit a video.
You have to, well, you, you pitch it right, you go, you.
So we've got people of varying. We've got some people.
We've got a super yacht captain who's been driving multi
$1,000,000 boats around the Caribbean for years.
Yeah. But he's on the boat, not in a
car. Well this is what we said to
him. We've got a 19 year old who is
just a whiz at it. We've got another fella who's
been who learnt to do it when he was 8 and he's now teaching his
nine year old daughter to do the same thing.
So we've got all and we've got all these different people
who've pitched their different stories.
We've got so 5 finalists tomorrow at the boat ramp.
JSW powersports this local the mob that here on the Gold Coast
literally sell more sea doos than any other place on the
planet. Now, Can you imagine that?
I see on the Gold Coast, I see the spit everywhere.
Yeah, exactly. They've come on board and so
I've never technically launched a boat in my life, but as the
person trying to organise this, I've gone out to the boat ramp a
couple of weeks ago and sort of sketched out a course.
Did you give it a go? No.
Did you reverse the trail? No, but then I went and spoke to
Jeff Mcneven, who's the big boss of JSW.
Yeah. And he is going to, he's going
to meet me there really early tomorrow morning to actually
check this course because I talked him through it.
And he's like, you'll have to change that because that won't
work. And you'll have to change that
because that won't work. But he's going to meet me there
to basically. Nothing like that trying to
organise. To bring it back to this idea of
the run club at schoolies and and what Sana dies, I think that
was the team that organised it. Good on you for trying because
you might have had 150 kids turn up to that and it would have
been amazing. But from Channel 9's
perspective, I think it was that it turned up there with the
report. If you turn up and there's 150,
great, amazing. That looks great for TV.
That's a good story. One person turning up is a
better story. Just a single person turning up
is actually a better story. 100%.
The worst thing that could have happened there for that run club
is if 20 people turned up and it was kind of just about, you
know, so tomorrow when we have this event, if it just kind of
goes smoothly, that's kind of the worst thing that can happen.
The best thing you need to lose a.
Vote is if somebody drives into the water, the ocean, everyone
being fired, you know, you want, you want things to be a success,
but when they're a failure, it's also, it's almost better.
Yeah, I'm, I would have loved to have come.
And I'm like watching people at boat ramps is, you know, grab
the hot, some hot. So we've got a coffee cart,
we've got a BBQ going on, and you're gonna get to watch 5
people all while Spider has a megaphone and is just, you know,
in the same way that left, left hand down, right.
No, no, no, straight enough straight.
Gonna be heckling. He's gonna be heckling because
we want that boat ramp vibe. That's fair enough.
And we're gonna have people there going.
Do you want me to jump in and do it for you?
Do you, do you want, do you just want to let me do it?
It's funny. We've got Kathy, the only female
finalist who has said the amount of times she's like, I want to
represent the women because the amount of times I have men at a
boat ramp knock on my window and say would you like me to back it
in for you? It's like, no, I wouldn't.
I'll be fine, thank you anyway. She's the favourite.
Well done to Zach I I worry for poor old Zach about the grief he
might got from his mates but. I'm spewing about that I'm that
would I would have liked to have come down.
Boat and champs. Yeah, I've seen you in action.
Well, look, if it goes well, I don't.
Think I would have been a starter but.
Well, if it goes wrong and here's the dream, this is an
exclusive. I'll give you an exclusive if
the dream is if it goes well next year we have we'd make it
bigger and we have the jet ski category and the boat category.
You're right. You start to, you start to grow
it. No, it's.
Kind of like. Jet skis are harder because the
trailer's smaller. Oh, yeah, it's going to be
promoting. Yeah.
All right, there's enough of them around.
We don't, they don't need anything more.
Hey, but there's that on. And then you know what else?
Because I've got to head to Melbourne for the weekend.
There's a conference on work. Good.
Don't get me wrong. Yeah, there's a lot more
offering on the Gold Coast this weekend.
The MX. You want to get to the
motocross. I wanted to get a a motocross is
like, you know, 6K way over here at Robina Stadium.
What? What's the sea bus?
Sea. Sea bus.
Sea bus, Yeah. Dirty in some of the best riders
in the world. Do you, do you and I'm in
Melbourne. Do you want to listen?
Here's a lesson for and we will get back to some.
We've got some good running to talk about.
But here's a lesson for people on being not proactive, but
being prompt in life when opportunities present, if an
opportunity presents, they say grab it with both hands.
I would, I would add on to that, grab it with both hands quickly.
Yes, I received a phone call slash email, some correspondence
offering me the opportunity to host that motocross event.
I was Slack and by the time I got back to them, they found
someone else. I'm disappointedly I'm just all
I. Wanted I just wanted tickets
Well that's. The first thing you said to me
when I told you about it, oh, can you give me some tickets?
And look, it's a good lesson for me because I'm not great with
being prompt in getting back to people, but it's a great lesson
heading into next year that grab any opportunity with both hands,
but grab it quickly. Yeah, I'm the really, yeah,
mate, I'm down there and I'm thinking the Gold Coast, like,
Sir, it's been good weather's been like, except for the
storms, the weather's been brilliant.
And I think I looked at Melbourne weather and it was,
you know. Well, it's Melbourne.
It's gonna be like their Max is our minimum.
Rhoda, let's get back to some running, please, Courtney.
Yeah, look, we're being, it's all about getting called out.
Go back to T100. Yeah, shout out again.
We will. I will get that team up.
OK, so. Can you retroactively join
teams? You should be able to if you're
if you're one of the people. That's already.
We don't know that. We don't know that so.
If you are one of the people that signed up, we're looking
into it and if we find a way to make you a part of the in the
Beginning run team for this event.
I'll let you know. Yeah, Big.
So those people that have reached out, massive.
Miss on our behalf since we we'll be there and we'll be
running. Secondly, we've been getting
called out your story on Hayden Wilde last week running saying
that he could run 244 kilometres over the T100 in Qatar.
Did I get it wrong? Oh mate, so wrong.
But I feel bad also because I don't know what I, what planet I
was on last week. I kind of was sitting here just
nodding my head. And you're looking at the
official results. Yeah.
I kind of just nodded my head and went yeah, yeah, yeah,
whatever. Must have been listening to.
But. It's always good to know you're
listening. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, Right.
The reality is, well, you were reading the official results,
all right? And I hadn't looked into it that
much. And I'm thinking now, like,
triathlon courses are notoriously short anyway.
So I never put it. I never put it past, like, let a
good story roll. Sure.
I was thinking hey is run it. Yeah, you know.
It's whatever, 18K it's probably 16 1/2 K or something.
Whatever. Yeah, OK.
He that's the time he did for a lap lesson.
Everyone else. So the 244 is complete bullshit.
Oh, so he's running a full lap short?
Yes, he is. Literally, we were just talking
out of our asses. Well.
Blame Dubai. We need to do our research.
We need so that's. But then the third thing we're
being called out on, we're just not given information about
running anymore. Lee, OH.
OK. So I've been asked.
Right. With trail coming on board.
Mm Hmm. Can we just give and and the
what was the the fellow who reached out Tippo.
Yeah, Tippo wanting to this is the fellow who's been running
for a bit once. We're gonna get onto your mile
of stuff and feedback in a moment.
But before we get there, let's just let's just talk trail
running for a while, OK? And I thought everyone always
asks for advice on trail, like help us talk about trail
running, give us some advice. What is it?
I'm like, I don't even know where to start.
Just go and run. All right, so here's where I'm
going to help everyone is just to understand a little bit
today. So run the run, run outside
online. So the biggest kind of outdoor
magazine, digital magazine in the US.
Run.outsideonline.com is the website.
Yeah, yeah. So they've been online.
Oh, it's just the outside mag. So it used to be a traditional
magazine, now the biggest online, and they've done an
article which just popped up on my to my email saying a complete
beginner's guide to travel. Great.
And I thought, you know what? Why don't I just go use that?
Great. And I'm gonna see if I can
debunk like, is it good? Yep.
Is it bad or is it indifferent? OK, so I've done a bit of a
summary. I might actually.
I'll run through it. So run through it and trail run
through it, they've said. And then what do I think?
So to break it down, they've got it before you go.
Safety essentials, technique, tips.
Now that's the big one. I want to look into running
form, which it's an interesting one.
What to wear trail etiquette and a bit of mindset out there.
OK, so let's start at the top. Before you go, pick an easy
world mark trail. OK, I, I want to stop there.
No, people need SEO when they write website articles.
The whole point of writing a website article is you get
picked up on Google and it feeds in information.
But come on, just get to the information people need to know
really quick. OK, You're not going to go trail
running with storming. Pretty common sense, right?
You don't need to check the weather conditions.
I mean, granted, if you're in the States and you're up at
altitude, maybe a difference, but here in Australia pretty
much you can go. We've been running and rang and
pretty much in floods. Yeah, you're not going to get
into too. Much so don't, but yeah.
And don't. I mean, we're going to assume
some common sense. Don't go in the middle of a
stinking hot 40° day during Bush fire season, you know.
Bush fires is a good one. There's been some incidents
we're. Going to hold your hands through
this but we don't want to have to bottle feed you too so the
first thing the most simple thing I'm going to say if you're
getting out on. Trials take a phone reason being
taking a phone makes sense and it's not going to work in all
locations. But these days the Apple phone's
got a pretty good SOS like satellite.
If you've got a more recent phone, it's got a satellite
activation on it. Most places you're running gonna
have is gonna have some type of reception anyway.
Download some form of offline maps.
Now this is the key 1. So you can use Strava if you put
in a like a root you can download offline and if your
phone's not working in mobile reception, you can still follow
that route. Fine, fine.
Trail forks, Strava offline or maps dot me.
Great. 3 apps are gonna be your friend if you're starting out.
Simple as that. Beyond that, just use your
common sense. Take a backpack.
The other thing I'd always say it doesn't matter.
I mean, middle of summer here in Queensland is probably not going
to be a big issue. Always take a jacket.
I love this. And A and a weather like a seam
sealed jacket. So you'll explain why.
So you'll see this in majority of trail races you'll it'll say
take a like a compulsory piece of equipment with a rain jacket.
The reason? It seems sealed.
But Courtney, I'm going to be really hot.
I'm running around. I'm not going to get cold.
Why do I need a jacket? If anyone who ever has broken a
bone, what happens? Shiver.
Your body goes into shock #1. I've never broken a bone so I
don't know the answer. I was gonna say even if it's
like super hot, it's gonna matter.
But you just don't know how your body's gonna react to injury.
Number one, OK, Even when you're in hot, in hot climates, you
don't know what the weather's gonna do.
You don't know how long you're gonna be stuck out there if
something happened. If something goes wrong.
Yeah, and we're not probably talking and like running 3K from
bloody Nerang Velodrome here. We're talking if you're getting
out on some trails out the back or you're on holidays and you're
in the trail. You don't know.
Exactly. You just never know what's gonna
happen, and having that, and I suppose when the weather
changes, if you're down South or whatever else, it's that same
sealed jacket can save your life.
It's as simple as that. OK.
And. It can just make you comfortable
too, like if the weather changes and you're not ready for it, a
bit of rain, whatever comes in, that's probably so phone.
Backpack, Backpack jacket. Jacket, if you're in state
territory or that in the old snake bandage, someone or
someone's going to call me out. Have I ever do I ever run with a
snake bandage? No, no.
OK. I mean, I like this is I'm
trying to think of an acronym for your God to try.
I've got PBJ like peanut butter and Jelly right now.
But then you add the snake bandage in.
So I haven't quite figured out. You keep going.
Well, that's I mean, and that's it.
That's as simple as it needs to be And and water nutrition, you
probably add in there water if you know there's that option.
I've always said like I don't want to carry water in and it's
really hot if you're running in a place where there's.
You know, creeks and streams and that type of thing.
There's always the option now of taking in that the Philtre.
So you can get soft flasks with a Philtre.
I mean, there's a whole range of brands, hydro flasks do them.
You know, some of the running companies do them as well.
You can go down to a local kind of adventure or trail shop and
you'll always be able to get the philtre.
That's what I probably, if I, if you said what do I actually go
into say up in Springbrook and I'm going to go and run.
I'll have in my backpack a phone, a jacket and the philtre.
The philtre I know. Table Order General Phone.
Backpack jacket, Philtre, PBJF the just to that can I add on
there because I, I've spent a little bit of time in the trails
by comparison to you. I would also say if you're going
to go into one of those outdoor shops to buy some stuff and
that's a local shop to you, they're also great people to
talk to about the trails. Like there'll be someone in that
shop who runs trails. So if you're looking, if you
again, if you're looking to make that transition to trails and
you're going in to buy a piece of equipment so you can do that,
that right there is your face to face moment to talk to say, hey,
is there while you're buying the Philtre or the poles or whatever
it is you're getting, say hey, is there anyone in here who runs
trails around here? And then, hey, I'm making this
transition. Is there a, a beginner trial or
is there a 10K loop? Or is there something that they
would recommend? So you can not only then you can
maybe have that conversation about the map that you're
downloading on the app you've picked, but you can really get
that. And this, it sort of depends on
the type of personality you've got as well.
I'm someone who. Would.
I would learn and take in a lot more of that information you've
just talked about there face to face.
Let's say I went and had a conversation with Anderson at
Wild Earth here on the Gold Coast.
A lot of that information you've just told me then like all the
that suggestions and recommendations of geographical
locations would sink in. Better not by looking it up
online and just reading off my phone, but by having someone
directly talk. It to well, they can you can
also give, I mean, it was only a few days ago, someone just
messaged me hiking more so than running and just said, hey,
you're the tourism guy around here.
Like where I'm on the Gold Coast, I've got someone coming
in from the United States. Where should I take him hiking?
And straight away, you know, in that, in like that situation, I
actually jumped on Strava and said, look, Twin Falls, you know
the one you take your kids up to Twin Falls circuit four and a
half 5K, you get a swim, you get a waterfall.
Best place if you're up for a more of a day challenge, go
worry but beware like that's an hour and a half me running.
You're going to be out there 6-7 hours.
It's. A long day out if you're
walking. They ended up doing worry.
Oh, they did it. Yeah.
Come back amazing. Stuffed.
Yeah, but amazing. That's a big day out.
That's. I mean, that's the process.
Like, if someone asked me exactly what I'd do to get the
Strava, put it offline. Here you go.
With the water thing, it's funny, I went for a trail run on
the weekend. Just gone with my neighbour and
my neighbour who there's quite a bit of mountain biking around
the border trail. Yeah.
So he's got a pretty good aerobic base.
And we went for this run. But as we were starting to go
for this run, he walked to my house and said, you ready to go?
And I said, yeah, I said, do you want some water?
Because he didn't have anything with him.
And he was. And I said, and it was hot.
Yeah. And I was like, mate, you're
you're mad, but I'm taking water.
I'm taking this with me because I know how much I sweat.
But also we might. We ended up being out there for
just shy of two hours and I said and he I gave him a flask of
water and he was at halfway out. He said, oh mate, thank you very
much for this. I might, I don't and I get you
don't take water for the most part on for the most part on
simple trails that in the rang or if you've got your philtre,
you don't take water to I'm going to add water to your PBJF.
Just take water well. That's why I said the the
philtre. If you come, if you come back to
your car with a full flask of water and you haven't touched
it, tip it out great. But water is, you know, you talk
about that jacket. Just take the water.
If you can. If you can, just take the.
Water, I mean, because so again, just on feedback, people are
interested in all the different ways to do it, of course.
So if you go into Narang at the moment and you'll see there's
guys out there training for more, what you do, you're
looking at doing the the Mylar and you'll see there'll be
Eskies sitting on the trail, Yeah, at the head.
And what they're doing is they're doing laps.
So they're they're purposely being able to come back.
Train they're running. Train their nutrition, yeah, get
water on when it's hot and all of those things.
We, the guys I'm running with, if I go in and ring, we don't
want to come back. We want the adventure going out
even when there's no water. We just decide actually we'll
take the dehydration, cop it and come back and then plenty drink,
you know, 5 litres of water and whatever else you have and some
Slurpees and whatever else goes down.
But the other option in summer because of Queensland runners
especially, and even if it's down like that time I was down
in Bright at the end of last year and I said it was probably
the hottest day I've ever run in my life.
There's always the option if you're going out and back or
doing a loop and then coming back around is you can take if
you don't want to carry water the whole way, you're not
wearing a pack, take it some of the way.
Drop it in the Bush somewhere where you know there's a marker.
No one's going to flog it and then just pick it up.
And then always gives you like when you're, you know, 3/4 of
the way for the run, it'll kick and you, you, you never look
forward to it so much. Or even better, you know, like
you throw like sometimes we'll throw a Red Bull or something
tan in the Bush. And when you're like really just
stinking and then you're coming back and you're thinking
nothing's better than a bit of. Sugar, it's a Christmas Day,
hundreds 3/4 that I think. I love what you've given us
there. That phone backpack jacket
philtre slash water. Just the way.
They and this, if people want to read the version of this on the
onlinerun.outsideonline.com is the website.
You can find it or there we'll put a link in, put a link in.
I feel like when people talk about that beginning and and
Tippo, it seems to be a little bit of mentality, like it's,
it's, it's not because everybody knows like if we would all sit
down honestly and go, well, I should take a phone and I should
take some water and I should take something if I get cold.
What is it? Can you, can you explain or kind
of encourage people a way to kind of get over that mental
hurdle of going away from your Flat Rd run, your local run that
you always do, even if it's around a park, to going and
finding that trail? Someone to run with #1 like if
it's always going to be easy, if you could go in with someone.
I would almost put that above phone and everything else.
Yeah, if you've got a guide. Person better yeah a buddy a
friend Yep 100% group 100% if you can go and find a trail
group to run with it is the it's you know it's it's like the
first time you had a drink you did it with your friends you
didn't do it sitting by yourself and and some.
People like and like. I think that's really.
Important that yeah, 100% if you find someone to do it.
But if you can't and you still want to go out and do it, you
know, like because I always when I first got in a two stories.
So when I first got in, I may have told this one before, but
when I first went over to do Coast to Coast and Rich Asher,
who you know, was the world adventure champion for many
years, kind of, you know, got me on the course and mentored me
the first time. And I remember we were at Castle
Hill. And so we're up on the on the
range in the middle of New Zealand in between like
Christchurch and where is it Greymouth.
And that morning we got up to go running.
I think it was the first leg. And we're going to go and look
at the course. And I said to him, what what do
we take? And he said to me everything in
your Co op compulsory kit practise.
And I was like, you're like, at this stage in my career, I
suppose I was like, you're kidding, right?
They wanna be. It was kind of like, but it was
also like kind of like the school teacher saying to me, you
idiot like. And I was like, why?
And that was the answer is like, because if you fuck, if you get
caught, you could die or you know, you could get yourself
compulsory. Trouble.
It's compulsory for a reason. The reason we have that in the
race is no different to yourself going out to train in that.
Now look, we're in the mountains in New Zealand where it can snow
and cold and a whole range of other things.
It's probably not as critical here in Australia, but you could
argue like a snake bandage is a pretty simple thing to take with
you that could have a real purpose if you did get in
trouble. Saw my first snake since I've
been running in Queensland, by the way, last weekend.
First snake I've seen. What was that on the trail?
Looked like a little brown thing.
Little brown thing, little brown thing, little whip it.
This is why. This is why if anybody wants to
try running trails, run heavy. So the snakes, here you go.
Yeah, Yeah. So that that was keep going.
That was so that was the first around like that's at the most
elite level, the best in the world.
They still do it. We took everything that you
would have you. Not for the race, but for a
Recon. Exactly, so you're going to UTA
and you're going out to run the course yourself and it's you're
going to go out and down into the valley, take everything.
Well, that's coming from the advice of of that that stand the
best of all. The second story I've had is I
also like people have seen me over the years, go out and do
you know, quite remote adventures on my own.
So like places like I've gone and run up Mount Zeal complete
in middle and NT, literally a car at the base, no
communication and gone out on my own.
You. Did that race Recon run earlier
this year in what was it Madagascar or Mauritius?
Where were. You, yeah, Mauritius up in the
game park like now sometimes I go like Mauritius for example.
Yeah, didn't take anything. And you got in trouble.
And I got in trouble. So at that point I'm going, you
want to take more the other places like I have taken in when
I've sometimes gone on some of the runs at a meeting remote and
I've never been there before. I always go in with the mindset
of the worst, the most worst possible could happen.
I want a SAT like some type of SAT device on me.
I want everything I can have. I want my food, I want
everything because I have no idea what's going to happen.
I've always come out of those runs going.
I took way that I was way over prepared.
It felt like going for a run in my backyard.
Like I've never, ever gone running anywhere and thought
come outgoing. Jesus, I was under prepared for
that. Yeah, but like I said, you'd
better come out like that than be stuck in the middle of a
trail somewhere and, you know, have rolled your ankle and can't
move and then stuck there overnight and that and not have
it. That I think is probably that
simple example of rolled your ankle.
Again, if you are transitioning to the trails, that's a real
possibility. Like that's just, that's
probably the most likely of any incidents or accidents.
That run or your ankle you can just an injury crops up and you
can't run. If you're not familiar with the
footing, that's the other part of this isn't That's why this an
old adage for a reason. Better to be safe than sorry.
Yeah. So we've we've probably skewed
more to people training for like more longer distances that might
go out on courses that, you know, before the races and that
type of thing. But you know, it's all worth
considering. So then going on to running
forms. So we'll we'll move through so
we can talk about your Mylar running forms.
So this article is interesting because they said shorten your
stride short run with a shorter stride than road running high.
Cadence. No, no.
You say no. I'm calling bullshit.
Absolute. I'm not sure either who said
this in this article, but they're.
Why? Why not?
Run how you run, OK, when you should.
The only thing that I've ever had someone say to me on the
trail like, yes, you're going to need, if you're on a technical
trail, you may shorten up your stride because you're using your
agility to step on a rock or step on a stride.
You might have to chop and change your stride.
So that's different to shorten your stride.
But don't go into the Bush and just suddenly go, I'm going to
run with the shortest stride up a hill.
Like for no reason. The only good advice, well, the
best advice I've been given around like stride or thinking
about cadence in trail, though, and Mike Shelley was the one who
used to always say it to me going up the hill is don't, oh,
don't get to a hill and then suddenly think you've got to
like muscle your way up at an overstride.
So our goal was always when we got to a hill to hold the same
cadence, we'd be running on the flat.
So naturally, if you're running up a quite a steep hill that
feels like you're shortening up your stride a lot, but you're
not actually doing anything. It's, it's not the purpose of
thinking about stride length. We're purely thinking about
actually our cadence at that point.
So that's, that's the differential.
So that'd be that tip around that.
The other one which was interesting in this article that
I was like, wow, that's weird to tuck your chin.
When you're running. Yeah, please don't.
I, I, This is why I was going to reading through this article
going just hey, each to their own on what you're practising,
each to your own on how you run and what you do.
But I would if you're running on the trail, and this is, this is
probably especially downhill more so, but as if you're on
flat trail or even running uphill, the same thing.
You actually want to be looking out.
You want to be scanning the train.
And the quicker you're going, the more you actually want to
have your eyes up looking down the trail.
You don't want to have your eyes staring at your feet.
It's no different to riding a bike.
If you're looking down at your feet, that's when you're going
to be the least stable you can possibly be.
You want to be scanning above and using like proprioception of
your feet to know where you're landing.
Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah.
Do you know, and I know people, I was going to say, I know
people enjoy these cross sports references.
I don't know if they'd enjoy them at all, but I like giving
them Ricky Ponting this week, early this week.
People might have seen it. A really interesting comparison
that you talk about where your field of vision is while
running. Ricky Ponting had a fascinating
analysis about how he used to prepare to bat or the why he
batted the way he did. He would imagine an A4 sheet of
paper on the pitch in a certain zone and he basically knew he's
like, if the bowler was good enough to land the ball on that,
a four piece of paper zone that I have to leave, like that's
that's a no hit zone for me. That's the area I can't hit at,
right. He's like, if it was short of
that, I'm pulling If it was full and and it and then if they
landed it short of that inevitable and he pulled it and
never believe me, what they'd do is they'd over pitch the next
one and he'd get on his front foot.
That's basically, and then you see videos of him batting and
you see this, look, you see this.
He said I would glance down at that zone and then I'd look up
to the bowler. And so that idea of you talking
about there of like, like looking to the spot that you're
moving to, not where you are, but looking ahead of what's
coming, yeah, is the parallel. Yeah, 100, well, 100%.
I mean, every sport has its cue and the quicker you're moving,
the further up your eyes will be looking, scanning ahead.
There's times, I mean, some people are going to go off.
Yeah, got to call you out on it a little bit.
Hey 100% if it's through a rocky terrain.
How you got to? Run 100% at rocky terrain.
Sometimes I'm looking right at my feet going.
I'm on that rock or not. Or no, Courtney, but you said to
always look ahead. I can see you looking your feet.
If it's if it's rocky enough, I can guarantee you're looking
down, but you're using that proprioception more than
actually looking at your feet. You need to know what's coming.
I like that. What else with is there in here
that I was just like, come on, come on, come on, come on.
I I did like that in their trail etiquette.
They had one earbud out. Good.
One earbud we we stick by that. Greet other trail users.
All the usual stuff around that. The only other one that was
weird in there was around running form.
What did they say? The exact term was stay dynamic
through your mid back. Someone said to you stay dynamic
through your mid back. Stay dynamic through your mid
back. Well, I'm assuming my mid back
is beneath my shoulder blades but above the base of my spine.
Relax arms, gentle torso rotation, gentle torso.
But again. Run how you run.
I don't so they can, so
hopefully. If you get in.
All I'm going to say is I've ticked off my box now to say
we've talked trail running. We I think we've more than
talked trail running. And there's not a lot to
running. That is the point.
But the conclusion of all this is, you asked about running.
It ain't that difficult. And when you've got to start to
talk it all out, you're going to start to make shit up because
there isn't a lot to running. It's common sense.
If anyone's ever got any direct questions, shoot them.
Through, if you've got specific specificity, is what is
important. Andy Gordon and I had this
conversation. Running's hard, but it ain't
that hard. Like you, you Running is hard.
You can make running hard by the way you train and by the
challenges you set yourself and by the frequency and the speed
and everything else. Running is hard, but it ain't
that. Hard Yep.
No. Just get out and.
Run. Well, let's get onto your mylar
because it's more important. Break it into two.
OK, we'll get to the coaching side and some of the feedback
for secondary before we get to can I start, can I please start
with this, Courtney? Because since I introduced this,
this I've had received, there's plenty of feedback.
We're going to get to some of it.
There's questions, there's comments and all the rest of
that. But I want to start with an
audio message from a friend of the show Ready.
Some of you might be familiar with Ready from Bondi Rescue,
but I know from AG1 he's a friend of the show.
I love Ready, but this is the voicemail Ready left after the
announcement last week. Hi lads, second time caller,
long time listener. I'm just listening to the latest
step and geez, Lane's confident in me saying to Courtney this
time next year I'm going to be a milah.
I think you Liam and you know we're mates and I love you a lot
but mate you are crazy to think that you can just say you're
going to be a milah and think you're going to get through it.
Do you know how many souls that race takes 7500 metres of
elevation? There are more stairs in that
thing than than five times centre point tower like and then
you've got to run 160 K like mate, to say you're going to be
a milah is a stretch. I would, I'd be checking
yourself mate, because you know there's there could be a DNF on
the cards for you. He put it a lot nicer than I
tried to give it to your last one actually no, a lot more
harsh. I gave it to you in a nice way
of like you need help. Here's what I'm going to tell
ready and all the other data's out there ready.
I'm going to I'm turning that message into a ringtone.
I'm turning that I am creating a playlist with that message as
the loop between each song that is going to be the Segway
between each song for my Uta Milo playlist.
That is exactly thank you, ready, thank you because I want
all that. I want all that pressure.
I want all that expectation of failure.
And then when I finish, like I might write, you know how you
see rugby league players write, you know, fair things that
matter to them on their wrists or simple instructions.
My wrist might just say F ready like that might.
That's all. You're going to get me through
ready. You are going to be the reason I
finished this race. You want some?
You want some more motivation? Yeah.
Let's go. Rosie Davies, right in listener
from the beginning. Exciting stuff.
She's a trail runner, yes. Rosie loves the fact you've
signed up for what she calls the hardest trail mile.
Oh. Straight into it, didn't realise
it was the. Hardest.
Yeah, I'm sure you will have many people in mine for help, to
offer your help. Yes, there's been a few come in,
but I don't think you've actually thought about it
anymore, have you? No, she she's actually
recommending. I haven't heard that.
Romaro Lopez. Panina.
Oh. I'm going to need your help with
the pronunciation. I'm going I've got to find the
page. To help you through the next few
months, not only training the body but the mind.
Sounds like a bit of mind guru as well.
That is, yeah. Well, I said you needed help.
You did say I needed help. You said it real quick too, so.
He's done some stuff, but he's like she now.
I love this, Rosie. Thank you.
Courtney's right. Having a coach have having
coaching support is a great idea.
Not because you need to get through the race, but because it
helps you enjoy the whole process, the training, and the
big day itself. Having someone on your side.
She's going to leave it there. They sound like she want to give
plenty more. RIP you a bit more.
Ramiro Lopez. I'm just looking at Ramiro
Lopez. Pena, I think, was the runner
there. Was a few others keep going.
Which who did I have gonna fit running a mile?
Well question what is OK, here's here's one.
Have you got it? No, I just found, I can't find
that much about Ramiro, but it says he was the NSW
representative for the ultra running for NSW, Yeah, for the
ultra running state reps this year.
So. Yeah, yeah, I've got apologies.
There was a few other recommendations as well which I
have missed. I'm taking all.
I'm taking all these recommendations on by the way.
Yeah, we've, we've got them all coming in.
Melanie Barker shed Liam, when when are you going to fit?
When are you going to be fit to run a mile or is not the
question. When are you going to be fit to
run the mile? Is not the question.
What is your why? You kind of explained this,
right? I think I explained it a little
bit last week. If this is the first episode, I
I basically the why is because I want to see where my breaking
point is. And and and you get and Ed and
you mate. And my best mate's going through
the same challenge. So I have to bring it back to
that trail conversation we just had about Ed.
Is Ed's a really important guy, Not in my life just as a mate,
but in my in my running life as well because he was not a
runner. We played football together.
I sort of turned into a bit of a runner in Sydney when I found a
couple of groups. I then dragged Ed into that
world with me and now he is in that world like he's done UTA
100. He's actually, you know, he's
gone deeper into it than I have. After we did UTA 50 together a
couple of times. We did Red Bull Defiance a
couple of times. He's run, he actually, and I
know this is frowned upon. He might have run Sydney
Marathon under my name one year because I couldn't get there.
But we we, we are very much as we go through our lives, we've
got kids that are the same age. Taking on these challenges
together is a is a big part of my why to your question.
Yeah. So Mel said respect the race
mate, respect yourself enough that it's as hard as F course.
And I will, I would think, OK. I let me say so I think, I think
most people have this idea you aren't respecting.
How clarify something? You're all OK?
I am a naturally fairly outgoing, big talking human
being. All right, this is I work in
radio. My job is to talk sometimes some
bullshit, right? For the most part though, my
general attitude to life is a happy, excitable, fun outtake on
life. That does not mean I am being
frivolous or, you know, overly relaxed about the prospect of
the Mila. Like I could have come on here
last week and continuing moving forward and being and talked
about this racing in fearful tones with trepidation.
But you know what? That would make Courtney a very
boring podcast. It would because we I reckon, I
mean, I reckon we got majority. This is probably the most
messages just on one topic. It's probably since the early
days of what the fuck episodes, but yeah OK, so just keeping it
I'll finish off with Mel here yeah so because then I'll get
onto these 50K races. We've had help and we've got
some races by the way, I. Found a problem, Sorry, keep
going. Set yourself up to succeed.
It's not a case of just finding a 50K race and ticking that box.
Sure, people train bloody hard to do those races.
It's not something to be taken lightly.
I'm all for giving it a crack, but do it the right way.
Look after yourself. Thank you, Mel.
I again, I appreciate that and I'm not being sarcastic or
short. I genuinely, I was overwhelmed
by the responses we've got back about me jumping into this race.
Yep, I'm not being frivolous. I understand the seriousness of
it and I am. Trust me, I'm going to prepare
the you know this Courtney, I am spent.
I've spent more time in the gym in the last month than I have in
probably the last four years. Getting these I'm like hair
layering the foundation, laying the foundation and layering
these. Keegan now Lovey's hand or farm
boy Tazzy must be Tazzy fellow. Hey Keegan and Congrats.
He just came back from the Queenstown Marathon.
Great. Rent 3 hours 3 minutes.
Oh, that's a tough course. He's a he's AI.
Reckon you can just say I'm in the sub 3 club.
I would give it to you. Yeah, I would give it to you.
Hey, so I've found a bit of a problem with my mylar and I know
I've just fired up about not being frivolous or overly
relaxed about all this. In order to actually take to the
start line of the mylar, you need to have completed a 50K
plus race within two year window.
Yeah. But that's what we're going to
help you with here now, listeners have chimed in.
Yeah, I've had a bit of a deep dive.
Noose is the one that makes sense.
Here's the drama. So Noosa, the Noosa 50 that says
Noosa Ultra Trail. Yeah, the Noosa Ultra Trail 50
is, I'm just finding the dates of it, but I'm pretty sure it is
the weekend after which you have to have submitted your your,
your 50K raise. Yeah.
So this, this is where don't don't fret, don't fret.
So we've got a few options here. One is Tarawera in New Zealand.
OK, great. 50K through the through the Redwood forest.
An expensive solution to my. Problem.
So that came in from Keegan. Thank you Keegan, but an
expensive solution. Is my problem.
This one? I like the sound more because
he's local down there. Obviously on the recent episode
50, the gone nuts on the northwest coast of Tassie is a
102 kilometre run. I'm not doing that.
No, no, listen, you can do it in a relay.
He's wondering whether if you get the 50K out done in a relay,
whether it counts. He reckons it's a great, great
race down there. Me and my maid to plan and doing
that I could. Look into it.
That's the end of Feb down in Tassie.
Here's what I think my solution's going to be.
A very polite, well worded, convincing email.
No, don't just. I'm gonna, I'm gonna stop.
I'm gonna stop you there, Liam. Why I don't pick?
So the 15th of. March of hard now more hard
feedback. OK, 15th of March is the cut off
to to have your 50 kilometre race submitted to UTA.
You can also attempt to resubmit if there's any issues by the
30th of March. Now Noosa Ultra is on the 21st
of March. Okay, so it would sit in that
kind of grey area window. Okay, I'll let you go with the
grey for the moment. Okay, what else you got for me?
No, I'm just calling, yeah. It was interesting though,
because I was talking to Wade Lees at Momentum Gym, the gym
where I'm training at the moment.
I was talking him about this very dilemma and I said do you
think I'd be I should because there's a 50K race, not a lot of
it's about 900 metres and then there's an 80K race.
Do you think I should enter the 88 and use it as a training
exercise and why? I just was like, do the 50.
Don't put wear and tear on your body unnecessarily.
If you're that close to your event, don't go on.
Or if you're doing it in March, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for
sure. But if you were training up for
something more in summer, it might be good to get over
607080. Oh, over the summer months I'll
get. This What's this one the 80K
Bondi to manly ultra. Oh, that's that's at the end of
the that's. At the end of the year.
That one's. I missed that.
No, Why?
I was going to say we can't, you can't write in for an email
exception. I thought you were going down
the exception. We're being we're also being
called out. You can't, we can't call out
influences. Yeah.
And then expect to get like leeway ourselves.
That's true because we had to then just influence.
That's true. That's true.
And I do not want to be true. I don't want to be.
I don't want to be in that bucket, Liam.
That's. True.
That's true. Have I, have I been, have I
copped some hate about influencing behaviour?
Yeah. Have I really?
Yeah, I haven't seen those ones. I've copped some strays about
influencing. Fair enough.
I. Don't know, we can't pull out
just because you've now got runners listening to you.
You can't pull out the the the influencing.
Don't you know who I am? Damn it, It's the only reason I
started. This We'll find you a 50.
There's a few around. There's a few.
Around I'm going to sign up to new Noosa Ultra anyway because
it is a race I want to do. I've done the 24K run and I just
figure it's a nice one to plug into my calendar.
And also interestingly, and this is the other challenge that I
have with my life, I now have to start cross referencing it with
the AFL calling calendar. And so that weekend of Noosa
Ultra there is a the Suns have got to buy and the lines are
playing away. So I will have the weekend.
Off from it's free and so we unless you get called to Sydney.
I might do get to call to Sydney, but yeah, if I said to
them I'm up to nurse at around 50 kilometres, they'd probably
say you're an idiot anyway. Hey, in short, can I just just
are you done with my Mila or do you have more?
I I'm. Definitely, you're done.
With your Mila, can I just say a couple of things because, but
look, I'm going to continue to talk about this event, this
training in this vein because that's just how I approach
running. I'll it's sometimes I might seem
glib. Trust me, I understand the
severity of it, but I'm continue, I'm going to continue
to talk about it. Which we want, we don't want to
change. I will say very quickly, I am
planning. I will plan some for those
people that have hit me up asking about it.
My brother in law summed it up beautifully when he just said to
me, he's like, how the hell do you train for 100 Mile Rise?
That I'm going to unpack over this.
Like I'm going to come with some with some episodes and some
information as I go about this. Learning nutrition, training
equipment, all that sort of stuff.
I know. I've got, I won't say it now,
OK, but I've got the guy for you.
Great Brit, our favourite physio.
Yes. Sent me the man go.
Local. No, Yeah.
Can you guess who? You might be able to guess who
local. No, no, no, no, no.
To help train. Yeah.
Anyway, OK, it's TBCTBC. OK, Well, I want to throw you.
I don't want to throw you in case you don't want to go down
that road. But I think, I think I've got
the solution for you. I think you'll like it.
Yeah. And then we can then help share
some of that info because I think in the end, that's where
it's going to come best from as a coach.
For what it's worth, I found some great training stairs
through the weekend. I found a really nice little
section just running up over Burleigh Head.
And then if you go up the back around the sort of head back up,
there's a great little set of stairs that lead you.
It would then take you back down the boardwalk into kind of Flaze
area there, but. Oh, you mean that like it cuts
through so instead of running up the.
Instead of running up the road hill, there's a there's other.
They're good stairs. Yeah, that's the recovery stairs
to come down. So if you're, if you're doing
like a lot of the groups will do hill reps there.
Yeah, up to the water tower are. They recovery stairs, are they?
Well, you you cut down through there.
So instead of going, needing is a perfect place because you.
Would almost do it the other way and run the stairs and recover
on the road. Well, that's an option if you
wanted to work the stairs, but if you run up like say do the
800 metre stretch up and then you can keep running up towards
the water tower so you don't have to do a full, you know.
Equal rest which? Cut down through the steps and
it halves your rest. There you go.
I ran that the other day. Good spot.
It was a great spot. It's a good spot.
We talk about big runs in Australia like City to Surf
90,000 runners a few weekends ago.
The Dubai run 307,000 runners in one race.
Over 300,000 runners in one race.
So the links there all on one Rd.
This was how far was the event? Crazy.
How far was the race? No idea.
You know, I don't go that far into the research, especially
this week. 305,000 people in the Dubai run.
Yeah, 300. Oh yeah, I'm just saying.
So some videos of it, it's and and all.
You know what's even nicer, and I think this is something we
probably miss a little bit here in Australia, Do you know who do
it really well? Red Bull used to do Wings for
Life, World run, the charity run and then everyone in the race,
if you ended, part of the donation was you'd get a shirt,
the same coloured shirt, so everyone would wear it.
It's blue, but I'm just looking at the video of this, every
single person's in a blue, like a, a sky blue shirt.
It looks amazing. I.
Always marvel at NBA games because NBA stadiums do it so
incredibly well during finals. Oklahoma City Thunder, who won
the NBA championship this year at their home games, there is a
T-shirt waiting on every seat. So if you are if you are in the
crowd for that final and it's And that's the just to.
The unwritten rule. Work it into the ticket.
Price put the T shirt on put the like and so when the camera so
it looks unbelievable I'm. Telling college like the college
stadiums for NFL. Good on.
And, and I, and I, what I think, and again, it comes back to a,
you know, it's kind of the reason you and I love doing this
podcast and talking about the things we do is because sport
has that unique ability to, for everyone to put whatever shit
they have elsewhere in their life aside for the duration of
whatever the sport is, whether it's a game of football, soccer,
a run, whatever it is, everything else goes away.
And it's all just about that moment, that thing, that team.
And so the idea of putting on a T shirt for a game of basketball
isn't a big ask. It doesn't offend anything in my
life because I want to get behind this and I want to be a
part of something bigger. And looking at this video of
this Dubai run, that's another thing where you go, I tell you
what races around the world if you want to, if you're at that
point, where the next question you're asking yourself is how do
we make this look visually even better?
A single uniform like that sure as hell makes it look.
I'm just hoping this is an AI because it like this.
Oh you questioning? I'm looking at it now, cynic.
Look at the, IT does look a bit too.
Perfect. Yeah, there's like Sky I'm.
It does look a bit. Too Anyway, like hey, we're
getting called out every week anyway on stuff to us out if
this is wrong, it looks pretty. Well, the Dubai run, it's a
legit. It's a legit.
Run OK Dubai Fitness Challenge inviting runners of all ages and
abilities to take over the Sheikh Zayed Rd.
It's a mass. It was free.
Ah. It was free mass participation
event. Well, you obviously got a free
T-shirt it. Transformed the city into one
giant running track with participants passing landmarks
such as the Museum of the Future, Emirates Tower to buy
opera and the Burj Khalifa. Options included the 10
kilometre route for more experienced runners as well as a
flat family friendly 5K route. So there you go, that's how you,
I mean, we know that there are another.
Here's another cross board example for you.
AFLW Grand Final. The biggest ever attendance to a
women's football game happened at Adelaide Oval.
I can't remember the year off the top of my head.
Adelaide Crows were in the final.
They had 50,000 plus people there.
Yep it was free. The gates were open the day of
recording, the day people will be hearing this, the AFLW grand
final between North Melbourne and Brisbane Lions, which will
be, from a purely football spectacle, a much better game
than that one was in Adelaide. 12 1/2 thousand people at a
ticketed Icon Stadium. Now it's sold out.
It is sold. Out No.
No. No, it's in Melbourne, the game
is in, it's sold out, which is great and it's a testament to
where that league has got to. But ticketed 12 1/2 thousand
versus. Free 50,000.
So explain that to me. It's in Melbourne, yeah.
Wouldn't they hold it a bigger stadium because they fearful
they wouldn't feel it? OK, because if you you couldn't
take it to the MCG because what would it look like if the
biggest game of the season for this league was played to 1/2
empty, 3/4 empty stadium so. Guarantee a sell out.
Guarantee a sell out, guarantee a great visual perspective and
that's what the Dubai Run has done by making this incredible
free event. Look, Dubai is not short of
cash. It's not like they need.
It looks like they've given everyone a free T-shirt as well,
and they've. Given everyone a free T shirt,
it does look great though. That looks very.
Cool. Hey, across to talking about
running and just how things are the flop of the Schoolies run
club. Yes, going over to Philadelphia.
How this was in the? States right, they're dropping
the charges or reducing the charges of inmates who commit to
running. What are they running?
1/2 marathon. Half marathon.
Build up to 1/2 marathon within the obviously within the gaol.
Now let's provide context. Teenagers, yes, so not adults,
they are already enrolled in a programme called Mylap, which is
a diversion programme that gives young people an opportunity to
move forward. There's obviously it's not just
the running, there will be other elements to this and it's also
specific offences. So the the.
There's a lot of. There's a lot of yeah, exactly.
So it's said such as vandalism and auto theft.
So look, hey, we're on the Gold Coast.
We're on the Gold Coast. Youth crime is a problem here as
it is. We're seeing it in Melbourne.
Melbourne's shocking right now. Any I, I am all for solutions.
Yep, no matter how left of field, that give particularly
young people, particularly young people, the opportunity to turn
their life around from where it might be heading.
Well, in the right way when running or sport in general,
like good training structure it that helps with that discipline.
Then ongoing, whether it's sticks is another thing, but at
least it's teaching. It's the same with kids sport
and why I think, you know, even kids sport at really elite high
level. Sometimes those kids, you know,
you might argue well, they spent way too much time of their youth
doing, you know, trying to get to a point and never maybe get
there. But those lessons, you know,
those lessons in the structures you learn doing that they, they
work in every other, you know, former life, whether you go into
a job or whether you know day to day or family, whatever.
Well, the the data of the this story says that the District
Attorney attorney's office of Philadelphia says the programme
is keeping teens out of the criminal justice system.
So if it's if there's signs that it's working, if there's green
shoots, well, when you keep trying it and look, if, if the
local government here wanted to try it, I'd get behind it, but
happily. Jump on board a programme like
that because, yeah, people do deserve second chances.
Yeah, we, you mentioned who was the male mate who just came back
from farm boy, Tassie Kagan. Kagan, who just ran the
Queenstown Marathon. Yes.
Did you see? Because we love a bit of brand
activation. Yeah, pre marathon.
Well, I saw it because you sent it to me.
What did you think of this for those that haven't seen it?
New Balance, who I think that they are, they do activations
really well. I think New Balance are a
strong, clever brand. They activated the Queensland
Marathon with toasties, so they had.
Branded Toasties. Branded New Balance toasties.
I love this. So they had a set up you could
buy the Rebel, the elite. They had three different types
of toasties that you could go and buy and it was packaged.
Oh, you. Had to buy them, they weren't
given. Oh no, sorry, they were giving
away that they were giving away. But what a great way to get
people literally consuming your brand.
Yeah, before a marathon, I thought this was a great bit of
branding. I.
Like my take on it is, yeah, it's a it's a good one.
It's that's where we're at at the moment.
You have to do something so left to feel for us.
Or when I say ask for the consumer to go, oh, well, I
noticed that brand. And The funny thing is it's got
nothing to do with running. You're just adding value.
You're just adding value to a
consumer and putting your it's like, what's the toast you got
to do with buying a pair of shoes?
This is pure branding now, honestly, like, you know, at
this point in in this, at this point, running has become so
saturated with brands. That's where we're at, running
brands doing non running activations just so they can get
noticed in a space do. You think that's a good thing?
Do you think it's a bad thing? Do you think it's just the way
it is? I just think it's the way it is.
I think it's a smart move. Like we're not talking about any
of the other brands who probably were doing some type of Expo or
trial or tube trial. At least we've we're talking
about a New Balances brand. Yeah, because I do toasties.
I think at this, I think at this point it, it's getting to that.
Like that was like that other activation I forgot.
And look, this is, I can't even remember the brand, but the
drip, it was some type of hydration.
And at the London Marathon. They had the petrol valves,
hydration station. Hydration station, Yeah, I can't
remember who now say. If Gatorade did that, I would
remember it like a a like an already known brand.
Yeah, like a. Pure sport, Pure sport, Who did
it? So if it was a brand that we
already have to, you know, like a established brand is probably
where I'm going. If an established brand did
that, I would have remembered that forever.
OK, still a great thing because at the time we probably were
talking about pure sport, but it's like you've got to be so
far out of the box now to get actual real momentum.
Yeah, it's, you know, as you say, running is saturated and
people got to find ways to get noticed.
Do you remember 40 years ago? Cool Runnings?
Kidding me, it's 40. I can't believe 40 years.
Old shut up. That's not 40 years old.
Nearly 40 years old, that is. Cool Runnings, one of the
greatest family movies of all time.
Nah, you're way off. It's 3032 years old.
Was it came out in 1993? OK, no you don't.
Just bonus that up. That would.
That made me feel terribly, terribly old just then, because
I remember that movie so distinctly international
bobsled. Kiss the egg.
Well, maybe they did, because international bobsled Olympic
competition, they Jamaica just won their first gold medal.
Did they really bobsled? It's true.
It's it's, it's become true. Are you serious?
I am dead serious. The Jamaican bobsled team has
captured it's first ever gold medal.
At what event the at? They're like, it must be like a
world, like a, like a World Cup. Nearly 40 years after ranking.
Yeah, see, they're bonusing the story as well last weekend by
capturing his first year of the gold medal at an international
bobsled competition. The team need out Canada to win
gold of the International Bobsang Skills and Federation's
North American Cup in Whistler. Wow.
Now, see, if you told me that was like the Caribbean Bobsang
Championships, I would have been less impressed.
But if that's North America, you're beating proper Winter
Olympic countries. Holy hell.
And of course, this was born out of sprinting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go.
I talk. About how about I draw?
How about I draw a line down the middle of your head so it looks
like a butt? Another one of my favourite
quotes from that movie. Oh you're good, you're good.
I am just jumping back to that rebel thing because I'm on a
rant here. Yes.
What do you reckon of this one? Salomon have joined forces with
Beyond the Valley Festival. I saw this, I got the email.
For a run club. Yes, and you can.
I could because I've purchased something from Salomon recently.
I'm eligible to enter the draw to win myself a ticket, shoes a
ticket, a whole VIP experience. So I'm all, I'm all for it.
I love it, but I'm also a sceptic.
In me is kind of also going schoolies.
We tried to run club, Yep. Beyond the valley now they've
had at different festivals, fitness, Yep.
Things like the yoga and that style of thing.
Are you going to a proper proper festival and then worried about
running in the morning? OK.
And are you going to turn up in a pair of your A ACSS or XT
Fours? I I think what?
You're wearing. Right.
I think you would, I think you would turn up in Salomons
because they're a very cool style issue and I think the kids
appreciate. That's what I'm asking, are they
turning up in the running shoes or are they still wearing their
XT their sport style shoes from the night?
No, I think they wear the sport style shoes.
It's a look I get. I get what you're saying.
Can fitness culture, running culture It's.
Happened in like when the running is the the.
When running's been out front, yes.
Now you're attempting to bring running at least alongside with
the party atmosphere of a festival.
Much harder to do. Much, much harder to do.
Is it even achievable at all? That Wonderlust festival we
talked about actually went ahead few.
Weekends ago. Next time we went up there and
dropped the 258 marathon. Well, that's the only reason I
saw it the. Only reason I saw it too.
Yeah, but that's a running festival first.
That was that had running fitness out in front.
Yeah, all the other stuff behind it.
So look, I'll be really interested to see if Salomon how
how they go because if any brand is capable of doing it, I would
say they are because of the coolness factor.
We talked about this with Pete. For those that missed the
earlier episode in the year with Pete from Salomon, it's a very
cool brand. It's probably the brand that
most attaches itself to that festival vibe.
So if anyone's going to be able to make that transition, I would
think Salomon would be one of the brands that could achieve
it. Do people want to bring the
fitness part of their life and the health part of their life to
the festival environment? I'd have to see it to be
convinced. Yeah, if you're.
Starting something from scratch? Much more achievable if you're
trying to turn the boat on something a lot harder.
Yeah, I reckon it's one of those ones too.
You'd have to be there to see it.
Like I don't think you'll be able to believe the videos.
No, this is you. This is the Dubai run again.
You're sceptical of AI? You think it'll be AI, don't
you? No, I just think you can, you
can, you can take, you can take a camera.
Highlighting I say this to and this is what I'll say to
everybody. It's a good note as I begin to
document my journey towards the Mylar.
Highlights are called highlights for a reason.
It's the best bits, right? So unless somebody is is posting
videos of themselves on the floor, dying, throwing up,
having a horrible time, just take everything with a grain of
salt. Yeah, and vertical video leaves
a lot out too. You know when you cut if there's
only so much you can fit in that vertical screen?
All right, hey, quickly before we finish up, I do want to,
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