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In the beginning, Episode 71 
Corning, what's happened to your

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face? 
You, you, we. 

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We should. 
Come on, we should. 

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Settle down. 
It was a rough night. 

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We not that rough. 
We should stay up the top. 

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You're operating under a little 
bit of duress today. 

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I was. 
I was actually, I was just above

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your studios. 
Oh, yeah, my dentist. 

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Yeah. 
By the way, everyone, Yeah, I'm 

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kind of like got a little bit of
a Courtney droop over here. 

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I had a few few feelings I had 
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Christmas. 
If you're watching the video, 

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Courtney hasn't had a stroke. 
He's just, he's just look back. 

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Can you just, can you tell? 
Can you tell? 

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It can tell a little bit, yeah. 
Everybody out there I. 

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Just don't want to have a drink 
because this is gonna go 

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straight. 
Down everybody out there will 

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sympathise with. 
I didn't ask for an extra hour 

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and Liam's pushed me. 
Terrible. 

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We got things to talk about, 
things to get to. 

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Firstly, Australia Day event, 
where were you? 

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I thought I'd see you. 
No, barely runs where? 

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Did I do Australia Day? 
Where were you? 

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Where were you? 
I was expecting. 

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You know what? 
Australia Day. 

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Mm Hmm. 
Yeah, one, I'm not happy that 

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Australia Day fell on my normal 
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group. 
Yes, because we missed out on it

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that way. 
Great event though. 

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I was down at the Spit doing a 
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OK, so my son had rowing 
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dropped, did the drop off and 
what if he went out to the 

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forest? 
I don't have to check my Strava.

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I can't remember exactly. 
What I can remember at Australia

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Day is we had a great day out 
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Perfect condition. 
Perfect conditions. 

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It was a beautiful day last. 
Sunday the water was I was out 

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on the Broadwater when I jumping
Penway the day before and it was

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busy. 
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ridiculous, so it should be. 
That's the that's the day when 

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it's conditions like it was on 
the Gold Coast, the barely swim 

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run event. 
Yeah, tell me all your. 

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Put on by put on by friend of 
the show Ty Dalker, it was it 

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did an amazing job. 
You're the. 

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You're the headline for this. 
Well, right, this is where we 

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need to. 
This is what I want to address. 

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Put on by Ty Dalker, headline 
by. 

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By by Liam. 
Flanagan by Hot Tomatoes. 

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Yeah, so there's a couple of 
stories here, firstly stitched 

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up by the Gold Coast Bulletin, 
the paper, the local rag up 

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here. 
I wasn't aware of this until you

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sent me. 
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but my dad, who still reads 
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it. 
I you send me this message of a 

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photo of me from last year's 
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Yep. 
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going all right, but I wasn't in
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And in these runs from events, 
you get to my it's like you're 

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wearing a, a surf series, Rashi.
So you're saying you weren't 

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happy with your parents? 
I was not. 

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Happy with the I did not clear 
that photo and they've gone with

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the caption of Triple M Gold's 
Liam Flanagan will be taking to 

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the start line for the barely 
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I didn't compete either, so it's
fake news. 

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But also not only that reading 
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and then by the way, Matt Hauser
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against it against defending 
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The bloke who won it again, 
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Copeland. 
Brandon Copeland. 

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I was wrong. 
That's the ridiculous part about

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this. 
Good mates go to the distance Is

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the good mates to go distance is
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It opens with Matt Hauser is the
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champion, but he won't be 
favourite going into the annual 

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Australia Day Billy Swim run if 
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If you stop there and you see 
the photo of me, it makes it 

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seem like I'm about to knock 
Matt Hauser off in a run swim 

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event. 
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Brandon Copeland, six time 
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impressive. 
Matt did not compete. 

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Matt Hauser didn't take the 
line, nor did I Matt, I assume, 

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pulled out because he was 
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knock him off. 
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jeez, he's looking fit. 
But I, I went down such a great 

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event, amazing event. 
Shout out to Ty and the whole 

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crew that put that event on. 
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we're talking about these sort 
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great commentator. 
I was here. 

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Josh was Josh was doing it, Josh
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and start line with Ty and Ty's 
great as well. 

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Yeah, but I listen to Josh and 
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gold winner. 
He's, you know, fantastic 

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competitor. 
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as well. 
But listening to Josh, the way 

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he talks about the sport on the 
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partners on series, I think he's
a fantastic sports commentator. 

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I think he does a really, really
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Soon, as you said, then he runs 
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Man upper body man or like a 
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Exactly gotta do it. 
I'm sick of this apex this way. 

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We are gonna talk about to the 
AP S the Jesus. 

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Great event. 
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took part in the kids 400 metre 
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They had a fantastic time. 
Ty did make one area when he I 

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got down there and he grabbed me
for a quick chat on the 

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microphone and he introduced me 
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Liam Flanagan. 
I said, Ty, you put on a great 

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event. 
You're terrible at remembering 

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things though 'cause I work for 
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Question for you. 
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Yep. 
Aspen Addison Anderson. 

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Anderson. 
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The young woman that took out 
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Oh. 
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That's who I've been sparring 
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Oh my goodness, what an athlete.
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I was blown away. 
She is 'cause she's what, 17 or 

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something or 1818 now? 
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That's the first time. 
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raving about what an athlete. 
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you're the one, she was the one.
You've kind of been stalking 

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around the Not in that way, but 
you know what I mean from a 

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pacing perspective. 
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think, no, I went to the 1996 or
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there Junior World chance with 
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Yeah, so we're getting into that
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your, your peers are starting 
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right still goes alright. 
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Like he's in the thick of it 
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No, it, it was an amazing event,
great conditions, lots, just 

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really a a great way. 
It's a new tradition for my 

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family on Australia Day now like
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down there again this year. 
My daughter wants to do the 200 

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metre swim 2K race. 
Next year she'll be 10 and my 

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wife want it's just a great, it 
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Australia Day. 
The other thing that came out of

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Australia Day, I bumped into one
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Yeah, my brother. 
Your brother and I said to Rick,

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how's his running going? 
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hamstring tendinopathy going on 
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So yeah, kniggles. 
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though, which I love, which I 
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with Courtney is that he said as
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my runnings tailing Courtney's 
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And I was like, really, what 
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He's like, you can always tell 
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he chirps, Start session, starts
heckling people. 

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Now, is this true? 
Would you say this is a fair 

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representation of are you? 
Is your mood and your level of 

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chat representative of how well 
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I think. 
Mood 100% right, 100% mood. 

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But it's I wouldn't call it 
heckling, but I definitely, I 

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love competition. 
So they're not. 

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So once I'm once I'm running and
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look at people and go, OK, 
you're you're my next start. 

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Yeah. 
What are you doing? 

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What? 
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'Cause when you're like jogging 
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right? 
Yeah, I shouldn't say you're 

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useless. 
You're still running. 

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But like, for me, it's, oh, I 
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about Cam Anderson. 
Yeah, You know, I'm running 

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around the track. 
I can't even like put in the 

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extra effort to try and keep up 
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kidding there. 
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yeah, Courtney is. 
He's going well. 

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And there's nothing worse when 
someone else you're talking to 

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is also in the dumps. 
Because I've been in the, you 

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know, I've been the one in the 
dumps for the last year with my 

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running, you know, with the 
stress fractures and some other 

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things going on. 
Hey. 

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But Touchwood, Edgewood, don't 
get too cocky. 

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Yep, Never, never, never, never 
get too cocky. 

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Never, because the running gods 
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strike you down. 
But Australia Day, that Billy 

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Swim run if you ever get the 
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you're not a local on Austria to
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could not recommend that event 
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It's. 
Fantastic. 

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It's wonderful. 
I mean, to even just get get to 

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race in that little, you know, 
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Yeah. 
Brilliant. 

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Yeah. 
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Well done Ty. 
Well done, Ty. 

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Well done to everybody that was 
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on. 
I will let's let's segue into 

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the event, the next event I 
guess, which is the T100 fast 

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approaching the 10K race. 
I bumped into Trent from Gold 

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Coast Physio and he he's target 
on my back. 

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Yeah, he's. 
For this 10K, Yep, well and 

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truly 10K. 
You've got a few there who are 

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racing you. 
Yeah. 

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So do you feel? 
Some pressure. 

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No, I'm, I'm gonna make this 
balloon thing happen, though. 

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I'm gonna, I'm gonna make this 
balloon. 

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We don't. 
We don't want excuses about you 

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had to carry a balloon. 
Aerodynamics. 

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There will be no excuse about 
balloon. 

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In fact, maybe that's the 
novelty of. 

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It so on the balloon and we're 
just gonna have can you beat me?

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Hey, tell me what I should put 
on the balloon? 

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You're not gonna really run like
a balloon. 

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I'm not. 
Why not? 

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I'm not gonna allow you to run. 
With a, why not? 

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I'm happy you can run with a 
shirt if you want to. 

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If you want to print a shirt 
like Can you beat me? 

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I'd like to can we can we game a
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wear a shirt, it's like a pin in
the tail on the donkey shirt 

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where as you run past you have 
to put your name like a. 

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Sticker Yeah, I'm going to put 
my foot down. 

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No, No balloons. 
No balloons, No balloons. 

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Such a. 
Small sport? 

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No, no. 
The the Peter 100. 

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Run problem. 
Fast approaching. 

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I thought it was interesting at 
the moment because with all the 

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despite the when we'll get to a 
bit to the trail, I've got some 

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trail updates for everybody 
because I've had a lot of people

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hitting me up asking about how 
the mile is going. 

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I've got some updates that's 
coming up. 

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I'm still trying to incorporate 
a tempo interval session into my

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week. 
Yep, my Monday runs at the 

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moment are I'm I'm running. 
Fast. 

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So give us the example. 
Well, just do what was what was 

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the last? 
One you did did two weeks ago, 

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it was a Mona. 
I just said I put a Mona session

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in. 
Most recently I went with AI, 

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did 12 KS, I did 4 KS sort of a 
cruising warm up pace. 

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Got a 5 minutes 515 then I did 
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I just put in some like for me 
which I probably averaged around

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420 / 6 KS and then did a 2K 
warm like just cool down. 

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So for the Mona you average. 
Sorry so that that was the Mona 

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I I was trying to keep my 92nd 
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4 minute case. 
But this is most recently on my 

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Monday session. 
I did A12K run, 4K warm up, six 

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Ki guess tempo you'd call it 
around 420 pace and then a 2K 

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cooldown. 
So I'm still trying to keep some

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speed runs in my week because 
basically my week is focused on 

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kilometres and elevation. 
So that's interesting. 

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So you choose in that type of 
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run. 
So you go off your watch to go 

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I'm going to run 6K, Yeah. 
And you run to a instead of 

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going I'm going to run for a 
duration 20 minutes. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, there's no right or 

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wrong. 
Yeah, I just, it's interesting 

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because like. 
Well, it's, I guess it hasn't 

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been those speed sessions 
haven't been so much a a 

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planned. 
They haven't been a a planned 

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training session. 
It's not a training session as 

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such. 
It's me mentally breaking up the

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case they're on. 
Yeah, because most like, you 

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know, yesterday I did 11 KS at 
5:15 pace. 

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This weekend I'll do back to 
back kind of 20 K plus days with

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elevation. 
So they'll be walking in there 

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and they'll be and it's, it's a 
grind. 

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Yep. 
I'm choosing to incorporate that

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Monday session for fun. 
So you do that Monday though off

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say like this weekend you said 
you're going to do two 20s. 

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Yep. 
You then try and run the Monday 

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off. 
Yeah, that's risky. 

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Why is that? 
You want to give yourself like 

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treating the long run. 
So even if you're running a 

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longer run easier, yeah, it's 
still should be a fair bit 

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longer than what you'd normally 
do. 

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And so you still want to allow 
the lakes to have a recovery 

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after that if you can jump into 
too much speed, so. 

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You'd say take the Monday off. 
Yeah, you. 

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And then run back to Tuesday. 
OK, Yeah. 

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Oh, I'll just try that. 
Just just risk avoidance when 

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we're talking about. 
Good point going down here. 

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Good point, especially if you do
a like 2 longer days. 

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Well, this is be the first 
weekend I try for two longer 

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days. 
That's the. 

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Plan. 
You definitely want to give 

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yourself bit of space and. 
I I think regardless of days the

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point is at the moment I'm 
trying to just include keep that

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tempo E session for fun. 
Yep, because running slow is 

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what I need to be doing now. 
It's time on feet and it's. 

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Just breaks it up. 
But keeping that tempo run 

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earlier in my week is fun. 
I'm enjoying keeping up that 

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that speed run in my week. 
I hear you. 

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I'm not. 
We'll get back. 

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I'll keep keep going on yours, 
but I'll just jump in because I,

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I hear you 100%. 
And a very similar thing. 

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I mean, I've been in Perth for 
this week and I was like, I'd 

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done my, I'd push my speed 
session to Monday because I knew

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I'd have to travel on the 
Tuesday. 

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So Wednesday morning I got off 
and I'm like, what am I going to

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do? 
I'm on my own. 

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I'm, you know, I haven't really 
got anything too planned, But 

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also I don't want to just run an
hour. 

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No. 
So what I ended up doing was 

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running 8K around Swan Lake or 
what's the, what's the main lake

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in Perth there in the city. 
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there for 8K. 
So I did pick a distance and 

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then tempoed back and just, you 
know, I've, I've actually ran 

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into a heart rate, but just 
purely, and that was just mental

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to get, you know, I didn't 
really have a plan to do a 

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session, but it was like at 
least broke it up for me. 

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It's still it. 
We sort of, I love, I love the 

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way you and I talk about 
running. 

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I really enjoy talking about 
running like this because I 

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think we go off into specific 
niches, we talk shoes and all 

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that sort of stuff. 
But I think we still come back 

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to the underpinning thing about 
running, which is that it's good

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for you, It's good for your 
head, it's good for your body. 

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And, and, and it doesn't, not 
every session needs to be 

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targeted to achieving a physical
training goal. 

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Sometimes just good for your 
head. 

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Yeah, go and run fast or run 
long or do something. 

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Mix it up a little bit. 
Going back to the T100 though, 

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because we're fast approaching 
it's, I actually had a meeting 

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with, there's a, for those that 
aren't on the Gold Coast or 

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aren't familiar with the Goldie,
there's a big supermarket, big 

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shopping centre area called 
Paradise Centre, right on the 

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front basically where the 
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It's on Cavil Mall, right? 
And we actually had a meeting 

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there for for some work stuff. 
And I was talking with someone 

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who's involved with the Paradise
Centre and they are pumped. 

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Are they pumped? 
They're so excited about this 

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event. 
It's been. 

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It's been busy down there. 
Oh, when did I run? 

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Probably a couple of weekends 
ago. 

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I ran through there. 
I think it might have been like 

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a Saturday arvo or a Sunday arvo
and how they've they've, you 

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can't drive through there. 
Anymore pedestrian mall now. 

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Yeah, and they've put like 
nearly like a beach chairs in 

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and sand across the road and a 
whole range of things. 

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It was pumping. 
It was pumping like I ran 

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through there kind of, you know,
when you're running in a, we've 

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talked about this running in a 
spot you probably shouldn't be. 

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Yep, I kind of ran through there
going you, you're a bit of a way

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to run through here right at the
moment. 

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Like I should shouldn't have 
ducked down the side Rd. 

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I'm pretty sure it remains A 
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end of March. 
OK. 

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Because there's a trial, right? 
It is a trial that they've 

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extended. 
So I think for the T100 it is 

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likely it'll still be a 
pedestrian. 

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So there'll be cars or anything 
on that, which is great news. 

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But I was also speaking to the 
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Gold Coast who also runs the 
Gold Coast Marathon and the 

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excitement continues to build. 
Like this is going to be such a,

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an, I don't think people realise
what is coming like in a, in a 

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good way. 
Like it's one of those things 

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where some people will know what
it's about, some people know 

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what it looks like overseas and 
at different events, but I think

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they'll be really surprised in a
good way at what this event is 

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for the Gold Coast. 
Yeah. 

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Do you know what I like about 
it? 

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Is that obviously the face of 
it, it's this triathlon series 

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which has got global appeal. 
It has global appeal mainly for 

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long distance. 
So like the 100 KS. 

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Yep, more long distance 
athletes. 

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Then they've obviously got the 
Olympic distance triathlon, 

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which attracts the more 
localised triathletes who may 

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not want to go up to that long 
distance but then completely 

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separate. 
You don't have to, you don't 

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have to have a care about 
triathlon and you can come and 

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join in and just treat it like 
we like to a degree as a run and

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it's a 10K run to us. 
And that's what we're turning up

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for. 
And I'm loving at the moment 

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because what I'm, what I'm 
realising is 10K is a great 

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distance. 
You can kind of make a last 

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minute call on. 
I can jump in, you know, I can 

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still do it now. 
You can still end up and jump in

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and race your mates and it's 
over a distance where you know 

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you don't have. 
It's not like the marathon where

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you've had to put in the 16 
weeks or 20 weeks of prep. 

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You can just get in there and 
have a shot. 

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And I'm hearing a lot of guys at
the like when I say last minute,

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we're getting into the last 
months kind of starting now to 

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go, oh, am I coming? 
Actually, I'll race Liam. 

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Well, I won't be wearing a 
balloon, Courtney said. 

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No 20, just remind everybody 
who's jumping in. 

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The 22nd of March is the date of
this 10K race. 

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It's getting close. 
I need more time. 

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It's 80 bucks, which from a race
entry perspective is so 

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affordable in on the running 
landscape these days. 

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We're seeing prices for events 
get up there for 80 bucks. 

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That is, I mean, that's a night 
out. 

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It's it's less than a night out 
for most people. 

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So you save one night out. 
You sign up for this 10K run on 

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Sunday the 22nd of March. 
If you are going to register, 

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make sure you register as as 
part of in the beginning when 

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you do register, and we will, 
we'll see you there on the day. 

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And that 80 bucks gets your 
T-shirt, the finish's medal, 

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results, all that sort of stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all that. 

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All entries include a raised T 
shirt and a finish's medal as 

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well. 
So for 80 bucks, let's say 40 

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bucks for the price of the T 
shirt. 

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And then you get to show off to 
all your mates at work on the 

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Monday morning 'cause you're 
wearing it. 

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You should be like, OK, so T100,
are you prepared to clear, to 

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declare your time yet? 
No. 

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When will you declare your time 
0? 

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You've got to declare OK, no I. 
Don't need to declare it, you 

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have to. 
I told you I'm in a race. 

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OK. 
I throw my glove down. 

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Well, you throw it at Tim. 
Yes, exactly. 

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I throw my glove down and and 
the jewel's been accepted. 

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Have you heard from Tim? 
Yes, this week. 

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What's the chat like been like? 
Yeah, yeah, I've got some info 

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about because he's chimed in 
about our Apex stuff as well. 

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But let's get to the end of it. 
The the the chit chat around the

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run. 
Like I'm not going into this as 

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a favourite. 
You're kidding. 

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No, no, no. 
You're the, You're the outside 

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I. 
Believe I'm the underdog here? 

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Oh. 
Hold on, hold on. 

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But is this one of those things,
like, is this one of those 

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things where, like, you know, 
the Brisbane Lions put them to 

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try to position Wayne Bennett 
always positions his team as the

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underdog? 
Maybe, yeah. 

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But. 
No, no, no. 

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In this case, I if we went on 
times as of today. 

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I'm you're the outside. 
I'm the outside OK alright, I 

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reckon I'm I'm a decent out C1. 
100 go sign up, challenge your 

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mate, make it a race. 
This is. 

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Challenge your mate, challenge 
your mate. 

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That's that's what, that's what 
we had the fun bit of it. 

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Like, you know, times, times 
mean times don't matter, right? 

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Like for people who are 
interested in actually 

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competing, times matter. 
But racing's way more. 

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But on the scoreboard there's no
pictures on scorecards and if 

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your scorecard over your mate 
reads one, nil. 

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Yep. 
And then there's there's no 

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debating over this Strava time, 
finish time. 

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I have to run too far around the
water station or none of this. 

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It's just like, did you win or 
not? 

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Yeah, yeah, I love that. 
That's great. 

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All right, I'm gonna let you 
take the lead on Apex athletes 

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because I feel like you've had 
enough of it already. 

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We've only been talking about 
this thing for about a week and 

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1/2 this. 
Is this is quickly falling into 

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the the hybrid? 
Oh no, yeah, I mean the the the 

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chat around it for sure. 
Catch So for those playing catch

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up, maybe this is your first 
time at it in the beginning and 

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if we if it is welcome, 
subscribe, you'll love it. 

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Apex Athlete was a concept 
introduced by English fellow by 

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the name of Spencer Matthews. 
The proposition was an athlete 

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that can run a sub 255 marathon.
250. 

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Is it sub 250? 
Yep. 

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Jeez. 
Sub 250 marathon and bench 

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press. 110 kilos, 10 reps Yeah, 
one set. 

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Yeah, So everyone who's 
interested is more hybrid. 

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This is this is an interesting 
runners, runners aren't 

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interested. 
We're probably we're probably 

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losing people at the moment 
talking about this. 

450
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,360
But there is a certain group who
are very, very committed and 

451
00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:20,680
interested in this. 
And it's that same group that we

452
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,760
talk about with the the higher 
up there. 

453
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,720
Yeah, I mean it's higher. 
Well, because, and this is the 

454
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,560
way I looked at it is you kind 
of you're trying to do 2 things,

455
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,000
you're trying to average out two
things, right. 

456
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:35,960
Yeah. 
So. 

457
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:41,080
So you're mastering none? 
Yeah, you're right, now that I 

458
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,320
think about it like that. 
So 'cause the, the, the, the 

459
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,440
purpose of it is to do it at the
same time, right? 

460
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,600
So what I'm here getting, I 
mean, I've got messages all 

461
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,840
week. 
I've got a few here that we'll, 

462
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,040
we'll go through. 
But I'm getting people writing 

463
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,960
go, I can do this for bench 
press. 

464
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,960
I can run this, but no one's 
actually kind of computing. 

465
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,720
But I've got to do it at the 
same time because no one really,

466
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,560
no one attempts that. 
They're all talking about my 

467
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:05,800
PBS. 
Right. 

468
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,480
OK, I do believe after chatting 
to some people, and this is my 

469
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,040
personal thought of just taking 
in the information because like 

470
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,600
I said last week, I've got no 
idea about bench pressing. 

471
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,120
Actually Tim did give me a, a 
guide on this. 

472
00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:21,800
Do you want to know what I, he 
reckons I could do? 

473
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,600
Yes, please bench press. 
Hang on, hang on, where are we? 

474
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,080
He reckons I'd be benching 45 to
50 for 10, no, for 10. 

475
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,320
Don't laugh, don't laugh Liam, 
because you've also got caught. 

476
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,360
I've also had people, I'm not 
going to mention names, but I've

477
00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,200
also had people calling you out.
Sorry. 

478
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,680
Saying there's There's no way. 
We need proof that you can do 1.

479
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,840
10 in one Rep for one Rep we. 
Need we need a video proof on 

480
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,360
that? 
I've had a few people call you 

481
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,360
out on that. 
But yeah, Tim reckons I could go

482
00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:07,400
probably 45 to 50 for 10. 
OK 1.5 body weight bench for one

483
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,920
Rep is elite in standard high 
performance. 

484
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,720
Sport say that again. 
So 1.5 of your body weight. 

485
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,440
So one 1.5 times your body 
weight. 

486
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,280
Yep. 
For one Rep is elite standard in

487
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,120
high performance sport. 
OK, So what are you? 

488
00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:24,440
Oh. 
I'm about 78 kilos right now. 

489
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:31,080
What's the mass on that? 
35 + 4 is 39, so I said 117. 

490
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,400
I can't do that. 
Well, I can't do one. 

491
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,160
You're close. 
I can't do 1.5 but. 

492
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,960
You're close. 
You're you're, you're elite. 

493
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,800
You're I'm calling that elite 
Liam. 

494
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,920
I'm saying though, the 250's too
easy in this comp. 

495
00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:48,440
You don't think the the running 
benchmark's high enough? 

496
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,280
I think the run you think we 
need to pivot the running 

497
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,600
benchmark and adjust the 
weightlifting benchmark. 

498
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,200
All right. 
I like this. 

499
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,080
Yeah. 
OK. 

500
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,120
What would you pivot the rundown
time because? 

501
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,720
I called. 
I called out a few bigger fellas

502
00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:02,240
and like to see what they 
thought on this. 

503
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,600
Yeah, and I was actually 
surprised at how quickly they'd 

504
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,800
all run marathons. 
OK, so you think the running 

505
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,320
benchmark? 
I think they've like as like 

506
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:16,520
really, I mean when I say larger
guys like just. 

507
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,400
Solid big frames. 
Like strong dudes, like they're 

508
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,320
doing the marathon element of it
a lot easier than the the 10 

509
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,720
reps. 
Gotcha. 

510
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,560
So I believe it should be more 
lots if you're talking about 

511
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,520
like the elite of the lead 50 in
the world and maybe it needs to 

512
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,480
be skewed down towards 2 under 
24240. 

513
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,520
Yeah, yeah. 
With, with the equivalent of 

514
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,400
what is seems to be correct on 
the benchmark for the the world.

515
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,800
And and then we will have no one
achieving it. 

516
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,440
I love it. 
No, no, no, no, I I truly 

517
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,080
believe people will still 
achieve it. 

518
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,760
But we're talking about those 
finite numbers. 

519
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,200
I actually the running's too. 
Easy. 

520
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,520
Too easy. 
For what they are, same. 

521
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,400
That's good luck that we 
mentioned last week. 

522
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,200
Some questions. 
Yeah, he ended up, we messaged 

523
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,840
him last week in the chat. 
He got back to me and he was 

524
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,440
like, yeah, he didn't believe he
he was probably in that like 

525
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,800
he'd have to train to do that. 
But he reckons he's closer to 

526
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,760
the weights than he would be 
ever to the 250. 

527
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,400
OK. 
But he did call out and he said 

528
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,520
Ethan Reed. 
Yeah, Big East. 

529
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,960
Might be the one guy he thinks 
they. 

530
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,920
Could run the time and lift the 
weights. 

531
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,720
Might with the right training 
and the right. 

532
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,600
Fit This is Ethan Reid, the 
Unicorn who that won the 2K time

533
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,080
trial at the Suns preseason. 
He's a 200 centimetre unit who 

534
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:34,120
runs a 555 in the 2K time trial.
Yep just quickly I have messaged

535
00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:38,120
my gym, I have messaged momentum
and said please remind me to 

536
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:42,280
attempt A1 by 110K Rep next week
on the bench press with video. 

537
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:44,800
I will bring the video proof 
next week. 

538
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,200
To all you haters out there, all
you doubters. 

539
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,600
And if I don't bring it, it's 
'cause I couldn't get it done. 

540
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,720
Talking about talking about 
haters is a good segue to around

541
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,920
the haters. 
And keeping on this topic, did 

542
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,280
you see Justin Truitt? 
Yeah, yeah. 

543
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,600
And he's. 
This feels like the apex athlete

544
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,880
has turned into the Justin 
Truitt like concept because 

545
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,600
everybody's referencing him. 
Yeah. 

546
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,200
Are they? 
Yeah. 

547
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,000
Well, they. 
So Jacobs wrote in and said, you

548
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,560
know, he's the one guy that he 
reckons he could, you know, on 

549
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,440
the planet that could do it, 
obviously now. 

550
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,120
This is the son of Cam. 
Cam Hanes. 

551
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,560
Yep. 
True Joey roles. 

552
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,760
Yep. 
Brian Yep. 

553
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,400
So I actually listened on the 
way home. 

554
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,080
I got into the airport late last
night and listened to the 

555
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,560
podcast with Cam about this on 
the way home last night. 

556
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,520
And look, I he he's just putting
it out there and going for a 

557
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,800
goal. 
Like he hasn't gone anywhere 

558
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,080
near that at this stage, but 
he's saying like I've got two 

559
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,560
years. 
I'm gonna he was it when he 

560
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,080
broke the 24 hour pull up 
record? 

561
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:51,320
Was that Caines at that time, 
Caine Eckstein's or someone else

562
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:57,000
Broken it, I think. 
Truitt took it off Goggins. 

563
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,080
There's different. 
I know Kane Eckstein had a pull 

564
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,040
up world record. 
I can't quite keep track of 

565
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,520
which one he had, but I know 
that Goggins had one, I know 

566
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,320
that Truett had one, and. 
He went after Goggins OK. 

567
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,400
But did Kane? 
Kane had a pull up world record.

568
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,320
He did it at PAC Fair I. 
Thought it was the 20. 

569
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:14,960
Four. 
It might be. 

570
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,040
Yeah, it might be. 
I'll look it up anyway. 

571
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,680
They're. 
Calling him out as like one that

572
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,160
you know, possibly is in this 
other area and then the other 

573
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,200
one was Jared Shaw wrote in. 
He loved episodes every week. 

574
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,560
But he's an ex footy player 
right? 

575
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,360
Local footy player and the footy
players all love this one as he 

576
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,120
plays in the area. 
Like even the elite players as 

577
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:35,600
well he was saying. 
He reckons that in the mid 90s, 

578
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,360
even into the early 2000s you'd 
would have found more players 

579
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,720
being able to bench that. 
He reckons they were, like 

580
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,320
always, stronger. 
At that point, yeah. 

581
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,120
But you know, with the running 
game over the last 15 years, 

582
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:49,920
they obviously carried, yeah, 
carried a lot less. 

583
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,920
Yeah, spot on. 
Kane did have it. 

584
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,000
True, it took it back. 
So he broke Kane's. 

585
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:59,600
He broke Kane's record. 
Kane had in 2016. 

586
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,800
Kane had the in 2014. 
He broke the world record for 

587
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,360
pull ups. 
He lost it in 2016. 

588
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:13,600
He got it back doing 7620. 
Truitt now holds the Truitt 

589
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,680
Haynes now holds holds that 
world record 10,000. 

590
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,800
He did in 24 hours 10,000 and 
one pull ups. 

591
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,120
Sorry, I was saying Justin 
Truitt. 

592
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:24,920
Truitt. 
True, just Truitt is his 

593
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,960
Instagram handle. 
True Kane is is is his name. 

594
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,960
But yeah, so Kane that's hey 
speaks to the athlete Kane Kane 

595
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,000
XL and he is an animal. 
Just also shows the power of 

596
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,360
America like you know, the way 
and we we talk about them all. 

597
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,360
It's not like campaigns now, 
Truitt and you know, Jelly roll 

598
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,560
all these guys in America, just 
the like the audience and how 

599
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,080
you know, big it is and Kane was
in that you know, we're talking 

600
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,440
Goggins Kane and then. 
Kane next time is that guy he. 

601
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,320
Is that guy, but he hasn't got 
what I'm saying is being down 

602
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,360
here in ounces you just don't 
get necessarily the access or 

603
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,320
the platform to be able to go 
out and we. 

604
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,360
This is something which I think 
we the nature of social media 

605
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,240
with fitness. 
Fitness has never been more of 

606
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,600
an industry than it is now, 
right? 

607
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,960
Fitness is an industry now. 
It's not Nike and these brands 

608
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,160
have always been big. 
But now just being fit in itself

609
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,200
can be a business. 
And I think Kane's probably 

610
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,200
like, if you were to look around
Australia in terms of people 

611
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,160
that have made being fit a 
business, Kane's probably a good

612
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,000
example of someone who was an 
elite athlete, won the calling. 

613
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,000
Like he's, you know, there's no 
questioning his calibre. 

614
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,680
But now he's gone away and he's 
involved with Doctor Hydra and 

615
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,640
he's taken the idea of being a 
fit person and made it into a 

616
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,360
business for himself. 
So, but you're right, we just, I

617
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,920
mean, if it, if it comes down to
sheer numbers, Australians are 

618
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,040
never going to be able to 
compete against the American 

619
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,320
machine because it's just more 
of them. 

620
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,720
And they just, and they also do 
it differently. 

621
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,240
It's they don't have that tall 
poppy syndrome that, that we 

622
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,920
have here in Australia, which I 
think is, is not as bad as it 

623
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,360
once was, But we still have that
notion of stay humble. 

624
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,160
Don't you know? 
Never, you know, never get too 

625
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,880
happy with who you are and where
you're at? 

626
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,560
Yeah, I mean, if Truitt was an 
Aussie and did that, what would 

627
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,280
have been the reaction? 
Oh, if true, he would be 

628
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,080
absolutely crucified. 
Yeah, different, different 

629
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,280
mentalities, right? 
That country, different culture,

630
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,080
and I'm not saying one's better 
than the other, but it's just 

631
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,240
different. 
Well, it's different. 

632
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,280
I mean, it's a lot more positive
over there, but they were 

633
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,440
talking this of this podcast. 
I was listening to you last 

634
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,680
night. 
They were talking about a lot 

635
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:41,080
of, I suppose there's runners 
who they call it a gatekeeping. 

636
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,920
I don't know what. 
That's a new word to me, which 

637
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,920
has only happened in the last 
year or two. 

638
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,000
And it's like a social media 
phenomenon word, isn't it? 

639
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,600
Gatekeeping, gatekeeping, 
gatekeeping running like. 

640
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,200
Yeah. 
Whatever. 

641
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,440
But yeah, yeah, he's obviously 
got a few runners out of got 

642
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,440
their nose. 
Out now speaking about running, 

643
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,960
going back to taking him back to
the, to the running side of 

644
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,720
things quickly. 
I do want to, I mean, last week 

645
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,240
we mentioned I proposed the idea
of Bunnings getting behind a 

646
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,400
marathon here in Australia 
because in Kyoto Nintendo had 

647
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,000
embraced that. 
Kathleen has messaged us, 

648
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,760
commented the Cadbury Marathon 
in Hobart has been around since 

649
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,480
the 80s. 
Yep, a complete oversight on on 

650
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,440
my behalf. 
Yeah. 

651
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,560
You can't find a more left field
sponsor for a marathon than a 

652
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,520
chocolate manufacturer. 
Thank you Kathleen for giving us

653
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,240
a heads up on that one. 
Now is Cadbury. 

654
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,800
They definitely got a factory 
down there. 

655
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,320
Cadbury what? 
What is it? 

656
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,880
Is it like? 
Is it founded down it? 

657
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,720
Was well sorry, it was founded 
in England. 

658
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,760
Oh. 
But it's first sight in 

659
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,040
Australia was in Tasmania. 
OK, so that was what we were 

660
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,320
talking about, Yeah, if you've 
got the right localised, you 

661
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,840
know, if you want to support 
your community, yeah, support 

662
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,920
where it comes from. 
That's it's. 

663
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,800
It's exactly it's. 
I'm all in. 

664
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,960
I'd eat chocolate on a marathon,
I reckon nearly. 

665
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,440
I will if I had, if I had a few 
little Fredos as you ran 

666
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,520
through. 
I'm already, you know, pre pre, 

667
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:14,440
pre opened, pre opened. 
London Marathon 2000 and 11. 

668
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,000
I ran the London Marathon in 
2011 off about two months 

669
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,160
training. 
I was I had had for anybody 

670
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,360
who's spent any time over in 
London, they will understand 

671
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,240
this term. 
I had had the Heathrow 

672
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,360
injection. 
I was as heavy as I've ever been

673
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,360
and I was just kind of embracing
the idea of running. 

674
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,400
Explain the Heathrow injection. 
Heathrow injection is an is an 

675
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,920
idea that Aussies might go over 
there and get fat. 

676
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,520
Drink would drink way too much. 
Because they drink way too much.

677
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,880
It's cold outside, it's dark. 
OK. 

678
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,560
We go from living our outdoorsy 
lifestyle here in Australia. 

679
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,240
You go overseas, you get the 
Heathrow injection and you're 5 

680
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,240
kilos heavier like that. 
I'd had the Heathrow injection. 

681
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,120
I signed up for the marathon 
late two months training. 

682
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,080
I've told this story before 
here, but I was running without 

683
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,120
a watch. 
I was doing the maths in my head

684
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,960
as I went through checkpoints 
and suddenly like 15 KS and I 

685
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,040
thought I was on pace to run a 
240 marathon. 

686
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,720
I realised I was just doing the 
maths all wrong. 

687
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,920
And the most humbling moment of 
that marathon was when I in the 

688
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,960
last five KS, someone dressed as
a carrot went running past me 

689
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,440
and was like keep going mate and
I'm like get stuffed carrot. 

690
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,200
But I will never forget the 
taste. 

691
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,760
I'm about 30 KS in. 
I've been eating nothing but 

692
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:31,440
like snakes or red frogs and I 
had that real sugary taste in my

693
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,560
mouth with all the hydrolite 
drinks that were being. 

694
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,080
Served on the way real. 
Sugary somebody gave me and this

695
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,160
is one of the great things about
and this is what Sydney's aiming

696
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,200
for and I think it's what Gold 
Coast probably wants to try and 

697
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,080
become as well. 
But the atmosphere along the 

698
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,520
sidelines, somebody about 30 KS 
in just handed me a fun size 

699
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,600
Mars bar. 
I will never forget the taste of

700
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,760
that because that chocolate 
taste breaking up 30 kilometres 

701
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,640
worth of like lollies. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

702
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,480
It was, it was a dream. 
It was the best Mars bar. 

703
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,920
It's I don't Remember Me, every 
chocolate bar I've ever eaten, 

704
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,040
but I will never forget that fun
sized Mars bar that someone 

705
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,040
handed me on the side of the 
road 30 KS into. 

706
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,960
The I I wasn't joking about, I'd
take the chocolate out. 

707
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,679
I raced, I was racing and P and 
anyone in triathlon who followed

708
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,199
a like like followed me a little
bit through triathlon will 

709
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:26,679
actually probably remember some.
I've got photos. 

710
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:29,360
I used to strap some Mars bars 
to the front of my aero bars 

711
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,520
when I was doing Halfway Man's. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

712
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,480
Like I went through a good phase
of winning half Iman's and I was

713
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,960
taking in a Mars bar or two just
because it's the same thing I 

714
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,360
used to. 
I mean, I used to have a lot of 

715
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,679
sports drink as well, but I just
used to like to mix it up in the

716
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,880
Mars bar at the time, you know, 
if I looked at it now, nutrition

717
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,960
wise, probably not the best 
thing, but it just, it kind of 

718
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,960
worked. 
It filled me up. 

719
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,199
I enjoyed the taste. 
The problem was I did it in 

720
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,320
Cannes though. 
I'm one of the original Cannes 

721
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:59,000
half Iman's, and by the time I 
got to the, the electrical tape 

722
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,200
was around it. 
It just slowly disintegrated. 

723
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,440
By the time I got to it, it was 
just like a slush. 

724
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,480
I mean, I still got through half
of it, but. 

725
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,040
Did Mars ever come to you with 
any? 

726
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,720
Cash. 
No, no, see. 

727
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,600
You that's where you should have
gone the Liam Adams route and 

728
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,240
just blacked out the the the the
wrapper so they didn't know what

729
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:17,160
you were drinking or eating. 
I was happy to. 

730
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,960
I was happy to give them a bit. 
That's great. 

731
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,280
I love that. 
But yeah, so thank you to 

732
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,440
Kathleen for shouting out the 
the Cadbury Marathon. 

733
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,960
Yes, it happens. 
Stand in Hobart because it's a 

734
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,400
good one. 
Yeah, let's move on. 

735
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,280
You got some audio here. 
Yeah, I've actually we've, we've

736
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,920
got. 
It's about you, Liam, our 

737
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:44,080
friend. 
Hello boys, long time listener, 

738
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,400
third time caller. 
Just checking in, seeing how 

739
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,160
Liam's training's going. 
We're all very excited to see 

740
00:35:53,160 --> 00:36:00,360
how he's coming along for 160 
kilometres in, what, like four 

741
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,600
months? 
Yeah. 

742
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,960
Come on, Flanner, fill us in. 
Tell us what your longest runs 

743
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,240
been. 
Tell us what your programme 

744
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,760
looks like. 
Keep us updated. 

745
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,640
We're excited. 
Oh, I think I'm even going to 

746
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,840
make the trip out to the Blue 
Mountains at the finish line, 

747
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,120
help you crawl across it. 
Bloody exciting, mate. 

748
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,800
I love that you picked the 
hardest thing in the world to do

749
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,400
and you're taking it on. 
You're taking it on. 

750
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,000
That is, that is friend of the 
pod ready people might know 

751
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,080
ready from Bondo Rescue. 
He's now one of the he's one of 

752
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,600
the big dogs involved with AG1. 
Thank you, Ready. 

753
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,880
And that Ready's also copped a 
bit of flak because some people 

754
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,280
thought he wasn't supporting me 
when I first signed up for this 

755
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,080
model thing 'cause he was. 
Being you've definitely got 2 

756
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,680
camps here Liam, you've got 
people who are just full 

757
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,880
support, loving, everyone's 
supporting you, don't get us 

758
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,680
wrong. 
No, no. 

759
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,640
But there's the there's some of 
us who are probably sitting on 

760
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,600
the, the, the, the threshold, 
the line side of realism. 

761
00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:59,160
Yep. 
And then there's others who are 

762
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,280
sitting on the side of yeah, 
great. 

763
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,440
Just go for it. 
Yeah. 

764
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,600
And I feel like you're, you're 
on that side of realism that's 

765
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,640
sort of like you're, you're 
questioning me. 

766
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,600
I'm probably not on the fence. 
I'm probably on the right hand 

767
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,840
side, yes. 
So let me give you a trail 

768
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,880
update. 
Let me talk trail with you for 

769
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,040
everyone for a bit. 
A bit of trail. 

770
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:23,960
Training is going well, my body 
feels good, legs feel great, the

771
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,160
the build is on and the build is
going really it's that lovely 

772
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,000
line you want to see as you 
build up. 

773
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,480
There's no sharp in increases. 
As you always say to me, give me

774
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,200
details Liam, Pete, that this is
what Reed is calling out. 

775
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,520
We want OK what? 
Give us some weekly. 

776
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,720
Let me, let me walk you through 
it, let me walk you through it. 

777
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:44,200
So we'll go back to we'll work 
on a, we'll go on a four week 

778
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,160
block, right. 
This is this is week four of a 

779
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,360
four week block anyway. 
So week 1 of this four week 

780
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,800
block was 56 KS with 1200 metres
elevation. 

781
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,520
Week 2 was 53 KS with 1000 
metres elevation. 

782
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,200
Last week was 60 KS with 1100 
metres elevation. 

783
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,000
This week will be 70 KS with 
around 1300 metres elevation. 

784
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,360
It's that slow build of 
consistency. 

785
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,760
That's the data. 
And so time on legs, I'm now 

786
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,560
averaging 6 hours plus running a
week at the moment of time on 

787
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,160
feet. 
My longest run. 

788
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,560
Look, I haven't had a really 
long run yet. 

789
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,640
At the moment my longest run 
today is about 23 KS. 

790
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,160
Yep. 
So there's not a huge long day 

791
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,720
out on feet yet. 
Those are coming. 

792
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,880
I'm not rushing into those. 
There's no need for me to go out

793
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,800
and spend 8 hours out on a 
trail. 

794
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,000
How long is it to a UTA? 
4 months, OK, I've got 16 weeks.

795
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,680
Yeah. 
So I'm building along slowly 

796
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,040
what I'm, what I'll, I'll share 
with you today and what I'll and

797
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,440
what I'm going to start doing 
more and more. 

798
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,760
And I mentioned people at Holly 
Ransom and, and some other 

799
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,720
experts out there in the trail 
space. 

800
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:50,880
I am reaching out to these 
people and I'm getting with 

801
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,800
those people. 
I'm asking for a bit more 

802
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,000
information and some advice, but
I've also got a few. 

803
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000
I'm asking people that have run 
these things before, hey, if I, 

804
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,640
if you're only allowed to give 
me one piece of advice for the 

805
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,720
Mila, Yep, training race day, 
whatever it is, what would it 

806
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:08,280
be? 
So I've got 2 to share with you 

807
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,280
today. 
OK, not intentionally. 

808
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,720
They're both from people called 
Ben. 

809
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:18,280
First one is from Ben Ferreff. 
Now Ben and I ran together for a

810
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,440
little bit in the Trails Border 
Trail last weekend. 

811
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,000
I bumped into Benny. 
He was out there with his young 

812
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,360
fella. 
Great to see his young fella. 

813
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,360
I think his name was Hunter. 
Apologies if I haven't got that 

814
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:28,720
right. 
Ben. 

815
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,800
Ben and I ran along for a while.
He's a big fan of the podcast, 

816
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,920
listens all the time and he's 
done mile as before he ran his 

817
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,920
Costa Cosi, the yeah, the flat 
240 Ki think, well, not flat, 

818
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,560
but flatter than the mile is 
what he said. 

819
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,440
And I said, mate, give me one 
piece of advice. 

820
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,640
And the one thing Ben said was 
you can never do enough 

821
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,720
elevation in your training. 
You cannot do enough elevation. 

822
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:57,200
Ben said get to a gym, turn on 
the Stairmaster and forget about

823
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,320
everything. 
He's like, you just want to lock

824
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,360
into the Stairmaster. 
Yeah, right. 

825
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,120
Just he he said. 
Go inside. 

826
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,400
He, well, he said, start adding 
it into your, your block. 

827
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,280
You just wanted ours. 
He's like, if you can just go in

828
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,880
and he's like, set the treadmill
to the highest incline and walk.

829
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,600
So that was Ben's Stairmaster. 
Or treadmill. 

830
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,800
Oh yeah, yeah, whatever. 
He's like you just said you will

831
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,080
not be able to do enough 
elevation in this training 

832
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,440
block. 
OK And I was like and I was like

833
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,400
fantastic. 
OK. 

834
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,840
That's been ferrous that. 
Doesn't excite you to go on. 

835
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:37,240
On no no makes me sick, makes me
like, makes me feel ill. 

836
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,000
Going inside. 
To do. 

837
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,920
I don't want to do that at all. 
No, I have intentions to. 

838
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,520
I have a set of stairs near me 
down at Grumman there and I'm 

839
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,160
going to live on those for a. 
Bit it is, Yeah, it isn't the 

840
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,280
same. 
As a stem, As continuous 

841
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,240
climbing. 
I understand why he's saying 

842
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:54,040
going to the into inside the 
door continuous. 

843
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,760
Yeah, because you can just do it
non stop, just grind up. 

844
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,680
Yeah and even like when you 
find, you know, if you're out 

845
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,960
the back of Telly Valley or 
somewhere and we got like, you 

846
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,560
know, you can go up pretty much 
7K ish six to seven K It's still

847
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,480
after that six to seven K, you 
still would have come back down.

848
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,120
He's still got the rest. 
Which isn't a bad thing as well 

849
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,680
because there's there's dissent 
in this UTA mylar as well. 

850
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,680
Isn't a bad thing, but if you're
wanting to get like strength 

851
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,400
over time from, you know, if 
you're just going to do it for 

852
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,640
an hour or something. 
Speaking of Speaking of roots, 

853
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,760
he also has sent me a root. 
Do you know Polly's loop? 

854
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,880
Yep. 
He sent me Polly's loop and he 

855
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,680
said, mate, go out there and 
plan for three loops of that. 

856
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,520
Yeah, be a great training. 
So good, yeah, Steep, steep 

857
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,240
sections. 
Yeah, that's come from Benny 

858
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:40,200
Ferris. 
So thank you Ben. 

859
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,720
I will be I'll report back as 
soon as I've incorporated 

860
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:46,680
Polly's Loop. 
And then this one comes from Ben

861
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,560
Fits. 
Ben Fits, who's a member of the 

862
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,400
Runners in the Dark crew down in
Sydney. 

863
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,800
He was my friend last year that 
did the Mylar and and broke like

864
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,000
his knee broke. 
He finished, but I, I, I shared 

865
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,760
it. 
I shared his reaction and 

866
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,520
response and review of the Milo 
last year for those that don't 

867
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,880
remember it. 
And I hit Ben up again and 

868
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,600
Ben's, Ben said he's going to 
come out and, and crew and help 

869
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,320
and support for me in the race. 
And I said, mate, give me your 

870
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,920
top training trip, your top 
training tip. 

871
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,720
Ben's tip. 
I wish I trained heavier legs, 

872
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,160
big gears on the stationary bike
or more stair stepper. 

873
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,760
So as you know, my legs were my 
biggest weakness. 

874
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,480
There are so many stairs in the 
race. 

875
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:34,040
So same thing as other Ben? 
Yes, stairs, stair training, 

876
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,240
stairs training, stair training.
So this is good for me. 

877
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,880
I'm four weeks, I'm four months 
out. 

878
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,040
And then interestingly, Ben also
threw me a golden rule for race 

879
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,320
day. 
Start slow, keep the pace easy 

880
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,680
all day. 
Don't get swept up in all the 

881
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,520
excitement of the start. 
You'll be feeling super fit but 

882
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,480
rein it in. 
Don't run a sub 4-5 minute case 

883
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,120
straight from the get go. 
It's a long day. 

884
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,840
No, I mean that it seems common 
sense it. 

885
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,920
Seems common sense, but I 
everyone knows that start line 

886
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,560
vibe. 
Everyone knows that start line. 

887
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,160
Feeling if you think of how slow
and this isn't just for a mile 

888
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,160
like this can be for, you know, 
50, it can be for any race 

889
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,520
really. 
But if you think about how slow 

890
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,240
or how much you slowed down in 
majority of races at the end and

891
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:18,840
you thought well, if I didn't go
out that hard for that first bit

892
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,040
of the start, but it is just 
that's racing it's. 

893
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,120
It's a it's a brain exercise. 
It's so hard to pull it in, reel

894
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,440
it in. 
I was just looking at Pollys. 

895
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,800
So Pollys is act is out. 
Is it the base of Springbrook 

896
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,880
climb? 
Yeah, if if you go in there, 

897
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,640
there's a trail and you shoot 
around. 

898
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,360
But the reason I was looking at 
it, I was trying to see if 

899
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:44,480
there's the backside of it. 
I've got a feeling the backside 

900
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,000
climb, so not the the first one 
you have is quite steep, but 

901
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,000
around the backside which is 
going up next to, I don't know 

902
00:43:53,160 --> 00:44:00,200
the alternative route up to 
Springbrook that is a real leg. 

903
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,200
Finder. 
Yeah, Good. 

904
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,280
OK, like if you that one will 
make you find out whether. 

905
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,000
Your legs are going, Yeah, good 
or not, Yeah. 

906
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,280
So look, the, the takeaway here,
I'm, you know, as I said, I'm 

907
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,560
four months out from this. 
The mileage is building, the 

908
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,680
kilometres, the time on feet, 
it's all building. 

909
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,680
I'm being very sensible about 
it. 

910
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,760
And I've literally, I've come 
here today from a gym session. 

911
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,040
So I'm, I'm building like the 
leg strength is still a focus, 

912
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,160
but it's stairs. 
Stairs is going to be a big 

913
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,560
addition into the running 
programme they have. 

914
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,040
Thought about like do you have 
aspirational goal around what 

915
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,920
mileage you might be wanting to 
look to get up to? 

916
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:42,240
Again, picking up from Ben 
Feriff, Ben one point O in the 

917
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:44,960
tips, I asked him, I'm like 
during as you went into the 

918
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:51,000
Mylar, what were you, What was 
your average weekly kilometres? 

919
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,040
And he said it's not. 
He said it wasn't that big. 

920
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,720
He said he was working around 
120 KS. 

921
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,800
OK, which again, if you don't 
run that will be bigger than 

922
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,080
I've ever. 
Run that. 

923
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,680
Will be bigger than I've ever 
run, but for a race that's 160 

924
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:11,080
KS, it seems unders. 
I don't know what I expected to 

925
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,960
be running, but that's just what
he ran. 

926
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,520
He's like I didn't get carried 
away, but it was 120 KS a week. 

927
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,600
Was as big as he was running, 
but he was the stairs. 

928
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:24,320
And it was this train, I mean, 
and this is just me personally 

929
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,760
thinking about it. 
Like, I think you'd get such a 

930
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,000
wide range because you're going 
to have elites and, and those 

931
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,400
who are trying to like, optimise
how best they can run 160 and 

932
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,360
they're going to have some crazy
mileage and crazy distances. 

933
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,200
So, and that's where like 
you're, you're talking about 

934
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,880
you've gone to get, you want 
some information from those who 

935
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,320
have conquered it like that. 
And then you're getting, but 

936
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,720
this is the key information I 
believe for you is to come back 

937
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:53,760
to someone who the the crew or 
people who athletes who have 

938
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,480
gone out there, runners who have
gone out there and actually done

939
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,840
it around your pace. 
Yeah. 

940
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,960
And understand like what's 
what's I suppose the threshold 

941
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,240
amount which you go actually 
this is too little. 

942
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,880
Yeah, but I also don't need to 
be professional 2 times a day 

943
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,400
runner, right? 
Because I could go and speak to 

944
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,040
Lucy Bartholomew, but she's a 
professional runner. 

945
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,360
I mean, she's got all day to run
exactly, so it's not. 

946
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,400
There's there's no but like. 
It doesn't equate 0. 

947
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,480
There's no, you know, she's I've
got a I've got a job, I've got 

948
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,640
kids, I've got all this sort of 
stuff. 

949
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,000
So I'm gonna continue to speak 
to different people, try and get

950
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,840
some of those golden rules, try 
and find out, learn a bit more 

951
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:30,680
along the way. 
You. 

952
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:33,240
Keep bringing them because 
that's they'll be interesting. 

953
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:36,840
But yeah, that was the, that was
my, they're my, they're my, 

954
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,440
that's my trail talk for this 
week. 

955
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,240
The build continues. 
The body feels good. 

956
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,840
I'm going to now be 
incorporating more stairs into 

957
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,160
my training as per the two 
Benny's who've given me that 

958
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,480
piece of advice. 
But yeah, I feel good. 

959
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,680
I'm excited. 
I'm really the other thing I 

960
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,000
will say quickly to move before 
I move on from the trail stuff 

961
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,360
could not feel more comfortable 
out in the border trail because 

962
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,760
that's why I'm doing a lot of my
work at the moment. 

963
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,440
But this week just gone. 
I was spending more time in the 

964
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,680
S lab Genesis. 
No, what's the the flatter, more

965
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,080
racy Fuel ones? 
Genesis, the Genesis and it's 

966
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,800
such a fun race shoe. 
It's such a fun shoe to run in 

967
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,120
as as opposed to the Ultra Glide
hail damage golf ball Dimple. 

968
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,720
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Like that one chalk and cheese 

969
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:23,680
preserving my feet. 
But I just feel, yeah, it's the 

970
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,120
running in those two. 
Juices. 

971
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,640
So like as you move through 
these four months, will you? 

972
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,640
You're gonna obviously need more
shoes. 

973
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:30,960
Yeah, I'm going to explore some 
different shoes. 

974
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,920
Yep, I'm going to explore some 
different shoes. 

975
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,800
I've got some I'm I'm looking 
into trying a couple of 

976
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,720
different other brands just to 
find out what I really like 

977
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:41,280
running in. 
I'm looking at some of the Nike,

978
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,920
the Terex as well. 
But yeah, I'm I'm enjoying 

979
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,080
learning more about the trail 
thing quickly. 

980
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,880
Has anyone tried, you know, 
besides myself, has anyone else 

981
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,920
skewed you on brand Like talking
about shoes on trails going oh 

982
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,880
they try this, this is 1. 
Not really, no. 

983
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,960
Interestingly though, I'll just 
say I I where I met Ben the 

984
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:04,440
other weekend had in the trails 
was as part of people might be 

985
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,400
aware of Keegan Hipgrave and 
what he's all doing in the 

986
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,200
running space. 
He had a little trail event 

987
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,800
partnered with LSKD and a coffee
mob Sun Devil from down the 

988
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,320
Tweed. 
It was interesting because there

989
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,840
are a lot of what probably 
people that fall under the run 

990
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,000
boom have got caught up in the 
run hysteria over the last year 

991
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,960
or so. 
And I was asking, I was just 

992
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,520
curious, playing curious. 
I kept very low profile out 

993
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,600
there playing curious. 
I was asking people, have you 

994
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,560
been trail running much before? 
A lot of first time trail 

995
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,920
runners out there, a lot of 
first time trail runners who had

996
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,080
never been out on the trails 
before for for whatever reason, 

997
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,880
blokes, women who just. 
And I was like, OK, so it's 

998
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,800
taking something like this to 
bring you out to a trail and get

999
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,200
amongst it. 
And sadly, I have an injury 

1000
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,800
report for the Gold Coast 
Titans. 

1001
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,240
Their cheerleaders went down. 
Oh OK. 

1002
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:58,240
She was out there for the first 
time on a trail less than AK in 

1003
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,800
bang and bad ankle like 
immediate I. 

1004
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,280
Thought cheerleaders would have 
some. 

1005
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,200
Strong angles at all. 
She went down and stuff. 

1006
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,320
She went down. 
So no injury report for the Gold

1007
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,760
Coast Titans. 
Sit down and cheerleader for 

1008
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,120
round one, I think. 
I hope she gets better soon. 

1009
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,360
It's the poor thing. 
She was upset. 

1010
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,000
But anyway, there's my trail 
talk. 

1011
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,760
That's your trail talk. 
There's my trail update. 

1012
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,320
Do you want to talk a bit about 
oh, Olympics? 

1013
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,600
I got an Olympic question for 
you. 

1014
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,560
You seen what the US Olympians 
are getting now I did. 

1015
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,280
I did for those that. 
We, because I mean we talked 

1016
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,120
about it for the Australian 
Olympians, they put on a 

1017
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,680
retirement. 
Fund Yes. 

1018
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,360
What was a reward? 
Do you remember what your 

1019
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,520
paycheck would have been if 
you'd won gold at either of the?

1020
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,600
Olympics, I think 30. 
But 30,000 on the condition that

1021
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,280
you went to the next Olympic 
Games as well. 

1022
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,120
No, not the same for triathlete,
because that's what it was for 

1023
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,680
swimmers. 
Do you know that for swimmers, 

1024
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,960
Liesel Jones, who I do in my 
radio show with has told me 

1025
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,800
this, that that gold medal bonus
was conditional on you 

1026
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,200
committing to the following 
Olympic Games. 

1027
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,400
I. 
Wonder if that was a private 

1028
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,840
gold medal bonus out of the 
right, the Gene and Reinhart 

1029
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:10,840
farm. 
I don't know. 

1030
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,760
I don't know, but I don't think 
so. 

1031
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,280
I mean, I think there was there 
was an athlete that yeah, the 

1032
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,200
Australian athlete, Australian 
Olympic Commission. 

1033
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,280
Yep. 
Or maybe the Australian Sports 

1034
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,640
Commission, one of the two. 
You have a metal fund. 

1035
00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:25,760
OK. 
And that metal fund is a pool. 

1036
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:30,560
Yep. 
And I think these days are, I 

1037
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,400
don't know exactly. 
So I don't want to say, I don't 

1038
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,680
want to say what isn't the 
correct information. 

1039
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:37,800
But yeah, like effectively if 
gold, silver or bronze, you got 

1040
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,400
a certainty or the thing was if 
you were a, you know, a swimmer 

1041
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:47,400
and you got 6 gold medals, you 
got six times the the amount 

1042
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,800
first. 
You know, some sports only have 

1043
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,160
one opportunity as well. 
So see as always. 

1044
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,960
Interesting if the swimmers got 
that. 

1045
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,840
I think the swimmers it was. 
It was not a per medal bonus. 

1046
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,400
Ask Lisel. 
Yeah, I'll follow. 

1047
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,360
That for us, because I'm I'm not
100% sure. 

1048
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,840
Do you know why? 
Because your memory's terrible 

1049
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,720
and you didn't win a medal. 
I didn't win a medal, but the 

1050
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,200
USI wouldn't. 
I'd remember that you'd Remember

1051
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:16,560
Remember that the. 
US Olympians Starting next month

1052
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,280
at the Winter Olympics, US 
Olympic and Paralympic athletes 

1053
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:28,360
will receive $200,000. 
Yes, but paid 20 years after the

1054
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,080
athletes first Olympic 
appearance or at age 45. 

1055
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,800
So this comes about because 
billionaire Ross Stevens, Yep, 

1056
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,040
donated $100 million to create 
the Stevens Financial Security 

1057
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,000
Award, the largest gift in the 
history of the United States 

1058
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,840
Olympic and Paralympic 
Committee. 

1059
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,360
So it's amazing. 
So they're saying yeah. 

1060
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,240
We breakdown how it works. 
Yeah, well, I mean 100 thousands

1061
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:54,360
paid out over 4 years. 
So that's what, 25 grand a year 

1062
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:59,280
over 4 years when you turn 45 
effectively Or 20 years after 

1063
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,920
your your first Olympic if 
you're a young younger Olympian?

1064
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,880
At every games, they compete in 
two. 

1065
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,560
Yes, so if you went to three 
Olympics, you're gonna cope 

1066
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:16,480
$600,000 if and another 100,000 
is guaranteed to their family 

1067
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,080
after death. 
So there's also like a wow 

1068
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,320
bursary fund there for that. 
This is really intro it's I'd 

1069
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,760
love to you as an Olympian. 
What are your thoughts on this? 

1070
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,400
What do you think of this as a 
whole it? 

1071
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,760
I mean, personally, I'd go this 
is amazing. 

1072
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:40,480
Like in this area, like we've 
talked about before, it probably

1073
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,760
comes back down to the sport, 
like different sports have 

1074
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,320
different professions and and 
monetary pay when it comes to 

1075
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,000
the Olympics. 
But I'm of the notion and this 

1076
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,120
that everyone should be treated.
If you do it for one, you got to

1077
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,520
do it for all. 
That's irrelevant. 

1078
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:55,320
Which? 
Which is this? 

1079
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,840
What? 
Which is this case, Yeah. 

1080
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,960
So I don't care if you're, you 
know, who's about one of the 

1081
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,160
current US basketballers that 
will be on the team. 

1082
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,560
Oh. 
Yeah, good point. 

1083
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,840
Well, I don't know, Kevin Durant
probably not getting there, but 

1084
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,280
he's probably a bit old now. 
But Anthony Edwards, say 

1085
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,320
Edwards, Yeah, there's like. 
I'm not a believer that you can 

1086
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,320
just say to him, well, you 
might. 

1087
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,280
You're not. 
I'm not giving it to you because

1088
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,920
you're loaded. 
You know the fencer well, you 

1089
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,600
know, you're a pure amateur. 
So that. 

1090
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,440
We have had this conversation 
before, yeah. 

1091
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,560
So in this case, I believe 
everyone one in all, one in all 

1092
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:37,200
in, there is a notion of like 
you could separate things like, 

1093
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,240
and I'm just going out on a 
tangent now, you could separate 

1094
00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:42,720
things like this from like pure 
amateur sports to pure 

1095
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,600
professional sports. 
But then I'd argue there's still

1096
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,840
such a variance in like what you
know, Triathlon's probably a 

1097
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,960
good example. 
Like it's a professional sport, 

1098
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:58,080
but you majority are probably 
earning money to get by and not 

1099
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,480
retire. 
Yeah, it's, yeah. 

1100
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,400
I mean, do the look you could 
means test it as this is 

1101
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,840
essentially what you're talking 
about there, but what they've 

1102
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:08,160
just. 
Done. 

1103
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:10,880
But I'm not in for the means 
testing around because then that

1104
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,680
brings into like what you do 
after sport and a whole range of

1105
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,560
things. 
But the reality is what's great 

1106
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,800
here is there are so many 
Olympic sports that do not get 

1107
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,480
paid. 
Yes, like there was I was 

1108
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,560
reading in the paper this 
morning. 

1109
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,760
It was a German bobsled athlete 
Female bobsled athlete has 

1110
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,560
funded her way to the Olympics 
through only. 

1111
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,240
Fans, I saw this story. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1112
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,080
Because it. 
She's got a dream. 

1113
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,600
Well, but to run a bobsled 
campaign is about 50,000, I 

1114
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,440
think it was EUR, it was in 
Germany, yeah. 

1115
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,680
So €50,000 a year to run the 
campaign and it's privately 

1116
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,040
funded. 
So how do you do it? 

1117
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,320
But but what I'll regardless of,
you know, sport V sport and all 

1118
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,440
the rest of that, and yes, there
are, there will be multi, multi 

1119
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,040
multi millionaires going to 
compete at this Winter Olympics 

1120
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,680
and at the summer, next Summer 
Games in America. 

1121
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,560
They will go multi, multi 
millionaires will be there to 

1122
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,640
compete because they have earned
that much in their sport. 

1123
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,840
But to go back to this bloke has
put this much money in and he 

1124
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,440
said if you make it as an 
Olympian, you get this. 

1125
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,560
And I, you know, talking about 
those athletes that participate 

1126
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,640
in the lesser paid sports, Yep. 
But they've also made a choice 

1127
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,200
to do that. 
And they've made a choice that 

1128
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,960
it's not like no one, no one 
took up fencing thinking, oh, I 

1129
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,600
thought I was going to make $50 
million as a professional fence.

1130
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,160
They knew, they knew what the 
paycheck was, but they still 

1131
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,040
chose to pursue it. 
And what I like about this is 

1132
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:38,080
it's going nut you become an 
Olympian, you get this. 

1133
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,320
And, and look, I'm not saying I 
think Australia should find a 

1134
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,640
way to do it. 
But they have. 

1135
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,240
But they have to some extent. 
But they do mean, but they mean.

1136
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,040
Test it. 
Yeah, so different, different 

1137
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,640
style of programme. 
I mean, reports are that Ray Gun

1138
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,320
wants to go and break dance for 
America the next Olympic Games 

1139
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,440
because he's like. 
Reset Radio reports. 

1140
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:07,040
Rumours, rumours, rumours are. 
But look, hey, if Ross, we just 

1141
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,640
need to find another Ross 
Stevens for Australia and we 

1142
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,640
need to find an Australian Ross 
Stevens. 

1143
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,120
We've got some great private 
donation, like, you know, 

1144
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,640
there's some good private 
donations in Australian sport. 

1145
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,080
I don't need to go into them, 
but they're there. 

1146
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,680
This one's just been 
specifically aimed at, not a 

1147
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,640
sport it's been aimed at. 
The Olympic programme, all 

1148
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,080
Olympians. 
I like it quickly. 

1149
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,400
My running. 
Yes, please. 

1150
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,000
I well, we know it's going well 
because you're chirping 

1151
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,680
everybody your sessions, 
according to your brother. 

1152
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,720
Yep. 
This week, So I had to. 

1153
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,840
I went over to Perth this week. 
I've been in Perth for three 

1154
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:49,880
days. 
Mornings Crisp, nice 1516. 

1155
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:58,280
Try to yeah my low humidity. 
Like it. 

1156
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:04,680
It takes a few mornings in that 
to realise what a slog running 

1157
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:07,920
in Queensland is in summer and 
the further north you go, the 

1158
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,800
worse it gets. 
But I had a couple of runs and 

1159
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,800
it was just, it was just the 
best thing to get into some cool

1160
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,040
conditions. 
It wasn't cold, no, but it was 

1161
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,720
just nice running easy, you 
know, get through an hour. 

1162
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,120
I was getting back to the hotel 
like my wasn't just saturated as

1163
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,360
if I come out of the water. 
So many positives out of it. 

1164
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,520
And then flat. 
Don't worry about the flat, just

1165
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,720
just just a quick reminder of 
what's to come when autumn 

1166
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,440
starts rolling around. 
OK, it was very, very nice. 

1167
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,200
I did also because I was away. 
It was the first time I've been 

1168
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,040
away since I've been really 
structured in my gym programme. 

1169
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,160
OK. 
So I had a bit of a like, I mean

1170
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,160
the city. 
Yep. 

1171
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:58,040
How do you I haven't done gym in
so long outside of going down to

1172
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,840
the local gym. 
Gym at your hotel? 

1173
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:05,040
So there was OK now, but what 
would you like 'cause I'm doing 

1174
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,680
some very specific exercises 
that need like, and I'm not 

1175
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,440
worried if I missed one or two, 
but I generally wanted, you 

1176
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,120
know, I wanted at least a squat 
rack that had proper weights 

1177
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,960
ordered and things like that too
typical. 

1178
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,720
For a hotel gym. 
Well, that's what I was gonna 

1179
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,360
ask you the question. 
Do you think and anyone who else

1180
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,720
is in their hotels this is a new
thing but would you consider to 

1181
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,880
walk into a hotel and get some 
free like a squat rack with free

1182
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,080
weights number? 
One, I'd be surprised by that. 

1183
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,280
Yeah, I I would, I would 
consider that to be over 

1184
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,000
delivering from a hotel gym. 
Yeah, I I was of the same 

1185
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,480
opinion. 
So I'd already started to look 

1186
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,280
at, you know, can I get to a 24 
hour gym close to the hotel? 

1187
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,200
Took a trip underneath to have a
look at the gym. 

1188
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:49,240
Wow, really? 
Not a squat rack, but 20 KG bar 

1189
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,640
with plates. 
So I was able to manage, you 

1190
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,520
know, calf raise machine like I 
would use in in the gym I'd go 

1191
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,480
to. 
However, there was some, I don't

1192
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,280
even know what you'd call them, 
but there were some machines 

1193
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,040
that still allowed you to do a 
style of calf raise. 

1194
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,760
Yeah. 
It was like a sitting swat 

1195
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,800
machine that also had a bit of a
like a, an outcut in it that 

1196
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,680
allowed you to do that. 
Pretty much. 

1197
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,560
I got through your programme, my
programme. 

1198
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,520
Good enough, I'll say. 
So my Bulgarian squats, I 

1199
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,200
couldn't, I couldn't lift the 
weight onto my back so I just 

1200
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,000
used dumbbells. 
But like I got through it well 

1201
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,920
enough and I'm like OK, done and
tick box. 

1202
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,800
But that was the main thing I 
was worried about travelling at 

1203
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,280
the moment. 
It's like I'm gonna miss. 

1204
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,480
Bloody gym. 
Just pivoting on that. 

1205
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,680
I can't remember if we've talked
about this on the podcast 

1206
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,800
before, the concept of airport 
gyms. 

1207
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,320
Yeah. 
What do you think? 

1208
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,280
Well, so. 
And quick shout out to a friend 

1209
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:50,480
of the pod, Rihanna Crane, who 
she posted something about this 

1210
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,320
the other week. 
I've heard this thrown around 

1211
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:53,600
before. 
She got, I think she got a big 

1212
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,280
old delay at an airport. 
Yeah, right. 

1213
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:01,080
And she said there should be 
more gyms, hairdressers, better 

1214
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:05,240
shops, great food at airports. 
Would you use a gym at an 

1215
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,280
airport if you got if you got 
hit with a delay? 

1216
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,520
At the moment, Yep, Yeah. 
Right. 

1217
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:16,560
Yep, Yep, Yep. 
Especially if I, yeah, 

1218
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,040
especially if I'd finished up my
day a bit earlier than I thought

1219
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,800
I had to. 
And you know, I'm not on a flexi

1220
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,000
flight and have to hang it out. 
Yeah, for sure. 

1221
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,400
There's an opportunity for the 
Gold Coast Airport here. 

1222
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,240
I think it'd be very, very busy 
though. 

1223
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,400
Go. 
Go what? 

1224
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,200
Don't do. 
It, but I'd never use the Gold 

1225
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,360
Coast 1. 
Well, no, you wouldn't, because 

1226
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,720
you'd be coming home. 
But Gold Coast is such a, a, 

1227
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,640
it's a growing airport, all 
right. 

1228
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,920
It's an you know, it's getting 
busier and busier, but step 

1229
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,200
forward going on. 
Singapore's got the pool and I'm

1230
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,680
I'm sure on the gym. 
I'm sure Singapore will have a 

1231
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,760
gym in their airport. 
They've got everything else, 

1232
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,080
some of those. 
There's not one in an Australian

1233
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,000
gym, sorry. 
An Australian airport though, 

1234
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,640
that I can think of. 
Yeah, great. 

1235
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,840
It's a it's a good idea. 
I reckon it'd be pretty dirty 

1236
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:03,600
airport. 
Doesn't it have? 

1237
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,680
To be airports in general, it's 
just dirty. 

1238
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,760
Places. 
I've just come out of Japan over

1239
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,240
the break and it doesn't. 
All these places that we accept 

1240
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,440
as being dirty here in 
Australia, they don't have to 

1241
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:15,640
be. 
They don't have to be, but the 

1242
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,720
reality is that. 
We as a community just lift our 

1243
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,320
overall standard and I'm going 
to use public toilets as an 

1244
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,840
example here and we don't piss 
on the scenes, we don't. 

1245
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,520
We flush and we do all these 
things. 

1246
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,400
Places don't have to be dirty 
people. 

1247
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,240
Airport gyms, for example. 
Airport gyms, it's a it's a 

1248
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,200
reasonable. 
Idea, but your body's feeling 

1249
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,000
good. 
Touch with yeah, yeah, tomorrow 

1250
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,920
get out going into the forest 
tomorrow might slowly increase a

1251
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,000
little bit of the pressure off 
some of the hills and go out on 

1252
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,640
that 17 K loop. 
Yeah, get it done. 

1253
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,160
Taken away, mate, taken away. 
What time are you going out 

1254
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,800
there? 
Might come for a run with you. 

1255
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,720
Well, let me rephrase that. 
We might run the same track. 

1256
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,640
I am assuming. 
What are you knocking out that 

1257
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,480
70K loop in right now roughly? 
I've been over an hour and a 

1258
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,080
half the first few weeks, but 
I've just been kind of rolling 

1259
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,920
around there. 
So I think at the fastest we get

1260
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,600
around there in about 70 
minutes. 

1261
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:16,520
So I'm about 2025 minutes off. 
I was, you know, talking about, 

1262
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,800
we were joking at the beginning 
around team 100 and times and 

1263
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,640
racing and everything else. 
That tempo I did do back in 

1264
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,520
Perth and I was talking about 
that 8K back. 

1265
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:31,000
I, I actually, I wore a heart 
rate monitor and I kept my heart

1266
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,520
rate under 150, right? 
And I think I'd have to have a 

1267
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,400
look back. 
I think the average was around 

1268
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,560
just under, I think it was like 
348 or something. 

1269
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,600
I'm not happy with that. 
Of course you're not, no. 

1270
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,920
Now you I'm not running as quick
And so like this is where it'll 

1271
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,760
get interesting for me is that 
I'm still benchmarking against 

1272
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:54,920
old, old boardings. 
And at the moment, I kind of go,

1273
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,440
I know the heart rate's right. 
So just run and that will 

1274
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,880
improve next week like 100%. 
I know that just improves week 

1275
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,280
to week, but knowing we've got 
what we say, four or five weeks 

1276
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:09,320
only. 
Yeah, till till till 100, March 

1277
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,400
20. 
I've forgotten that I've lost 

1278
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:11,640
the. 
Yeah. 

1279
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:16,720
So the notion instead of instead
of slowly, you know. 22nd of 

1280
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,480
March. 
Yeah, instead of slowly just 

1281
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,480
tapping up the threshold. 
You want to make I? 

1282
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,520
Kind of, I kind of want to get 
the sledgehammer and go like 

1283
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,000
that, but. 
And that's where injuries 

1284
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,880
happen. 
Injuries happen exactly so. 

1285
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,440
Little taps, not big jumps. 
I've. 

1286
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,600
Gone to the heart rate monitor 
at the moment to make sure 

1287
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,000
things are controlled and that's
where we'll stay all. 

1288
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,600
Right, big shout out to 
everybody who's already 

1289
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,040
subscribed. 
If you're not subscribed helps 

1290
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,600
the podcast, helps the platform,
helps us do cool stuff. 

1291
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,920
And again, the T100, you've 
still got time to get involved 

1292
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,440
with this 22nd of March, the 10K
run. 

1293
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,480
It is going to be an an absolute
festival on the Gold Coast. 

1294
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:49,720
You're finishing the heart of 
Serpas. 

1295
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,120
You can roll up Kavalav. 
You can race Liam. 

1296
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,400
You can race me, Courtney says 
I'm not allowed to balloon. 

1297
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:55,720
I have something I'll find. 
I'll. 

1298
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,800
I'll. 
We'll find ways to have fun even

1299
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,280
if old band courtneys up the 
front. 

1300
01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:00,920
All right. 
Thanks for stopping by. 

1301
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,400
We'll see you next week. 
See you next week.

