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In the beginning Episode 72 
Courtney, can we start today 

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with a congratulations to our 
man? 

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Jelly Roll. 
Jelly Roll 3 Grammy Awards the 

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other day Huge 3 Grammy Awards. 
Well, no longer huge. 

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No longer huge, his weight loss 
is. 

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He just keeps going. 
He looks. 

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Awesome. 
And in the weirdest way, it's 

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the most I've cared about the 
Grammys maybe ever, seeing him 

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sitting there accepting an 
award. 

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And you listen to music every. 
Morning, I know, but it's so I 

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still look back on what we did 
last year with him and laugh and

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smile and it's crazy, crazy to 
think that we have now 

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interviewed a Grammy Award 
winner. 

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Huge. 
Anyway. 

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Like I said, they they're still 
highlight of the year for sure. 

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Going from Grammys, yes. 
And him losing obviously all 

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that weight and doing some great
stuff in the health world. 

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We should say if you're 
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time today, or you're listening 
and you're not a subscriber, do 

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us a favour. 
Subscribe Now, We'll wait and 

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now continue. 
Yeah, Spotify keeps spamming us 

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because of this, Yes. 
Anyway, let's get on to this. 

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There is no more excuses for 
anyone about age and running. 

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If you if you've been on socials
and you if you know you get 

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spammed with the running 
algorithm, you're gonna see 

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this. 
But A156800 at 53 years of age. 

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A156800. 
Yes, at 53 it was a new men's 50

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+ 800 world record. 
It was done down at the Victoria

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Milers Club by Zach Ashkensee. 
Zach. 

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Ashkansi Ashkanahasi. 
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current pronunciation wrong 
there, but. 

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He knows who he is 53 years of 
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Is that a photo of him? 
Yep, cheeses good nick for a 53.

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Well, if you're gonna run one, 
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minutes, that's even. 800, he 
looks youthful. 

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Yeah. 53 Have you ever run a 
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Not since school, but what do 
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minutes? 
That's flying. 

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So for context, that's that's on
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that's on pace to break the four
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Yeah, so he's I I went into I've
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dive. 
No, no, well, I haven't because 

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listen to this. 
So the masters running the 

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Masters of running podcast, 
which I hadn't heard of, but he 

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they, they've interviewed him 
and they talk about him being 

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the new 50 plus world record 
holder in March. 

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We felt it was time that he came
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time that came out of nowhere. 
But he has a 343 as a senior. 

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So that's his 1700 proper 
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Yep. 
And then 149800A very private 

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guy who shunned social media and
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Strava. 
So I went to his Strava and it's

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all just him commuting to work. 
Riding, no way. 

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A little bit of swimming I saw 
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sessions. 
So yeah, definitely. 

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I love this. 
That's so I love this for 

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context, just to put it in 
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because a lot of 800 is a 
strange distance for probably 

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most people. 
As you say, most people probably

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haven't run a straight up 
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Distance. 
It's most people probably 

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haven't run a straight up 800 
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the so he's run a 15633. 
The world record is a 14091 set 

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by David Rhodesia, the great 
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The women's world record is a 
very long standing record. 

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Jamila Krachevilova in one in 
1983 she ran A1. 53 We've talked

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about that world record. 
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Yeah. 
Oh, it's Eastern, one of those 

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old. 
Chestnuts but but look Fayette 

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world record. 
This is just if anyone's been to

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the track and tried to run a sub
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do that twice, hey this is like 
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And if anyone's thinking about 
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run some sort of time like this,
stretch, please, please stretch.

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So I'm gonna go and listen to, 
like I said, that it's the 

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masters of running podcasts. 
I've interviewed him and and he 

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talks about his training, that 
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But everything else, Zach can't 
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Ashkenazi, Zach Ashkenazi. 
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did have a profile on like World
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July 25 S last year he ran 
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Yep. 
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athlete. 
It, well, it's that's just super

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impressive. 
Hey, let's, let's, let's move on

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from from something happening 
happening locally to something 

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happening right now. 
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If you're not tuned in to I 
think Stan is their streaming 

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service or Channel 9 on 9 Now 
coverage. 

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The Winter Olympics are here. 
Courtney. 

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Yeah, I know you've got 
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about. 
Just quickly, how do you feel 

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around Winter Olympic time 
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Olympian? 
Is there a kinship? 

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Is there a do you feel attached 
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Does it bring back Olympic 
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I love watching the Winter 
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unique sports that, you know, we
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So there's a lot of those, you 
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Everything's a bit strange at 
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Well, it's strange for us, yeah.
But you know, I put myself in 

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the shoes like, you know, 
through I spoke through Red Bull

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being an Austrian company like 
downhill ski racing, they have 

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whole departments that, you 
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racing. 
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was on in kitsball. 
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You know, it's so much you kind 
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here in north, the north of 
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big, like winter sports are in 
certain yeah countries, Yeah, in

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certain locations. 
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We don't get it. 
I actually proposed this this 

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earlier in the week on the radio
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advantage. 
It should be like the store 

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gift. 
We should have a head. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
At the Winter Olympics, all the 

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Aussies should get to start just
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The jump should be just that 
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We should just get a bit of an 
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which our athletes have to, 
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these races. 
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And then there's just completely
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Before I get onto the event, I 
want to talk about Britt, our 

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physio expert. 
She wrote to us last week and 

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you were talking about were 
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pollies. 
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She was out running pollies 
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right? 
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elevation. 
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guys to give a mention to Desi 
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Have you ever No. 
For Desi, so I've become aware 

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of I think I must have you 
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Well, how have you become aware?
Well, I think I must have read 

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Britt's comment. 
I've now looked into Desi. 

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Yep, and I'm on the Desi 
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Yeah, so I was watching just the
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I got whether they were 
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Britt's comment. 
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came up, but yeah, I just got it
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Australia who's showing what she
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Olympics and here she is. 
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yeah, on the track, yeah. 
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women's two person bobsled team.
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she qualified. 
She will be competing in Milan 

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Milano Cortina 2026 as part of 
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What I love about Desi and she 
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Oh, she did OK. 
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So Britt's probably treated. 
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This is why Britt's giving us 
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And if you don't, the thing 
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sport, particularly the 
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yourself getting attached to 
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And really, if you're, if you're
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regularly follow these winter 
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the bobsleigh with because I'm 
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I've I've, I've now got an 
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made are aware of us. 
I've looked into her a little 

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that it's a little bit like a 
Sally Fitzgibbons story in very 

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talented athlete, right? 
Sally Fitzgiven, for those that 

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don't know, was an incredible 
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Yep, before she turned her hand 
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and you've seen the ads, it was 
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Australia at the Olympic Games. 
Now surfing for most of Sally's 

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career wasn't at the Olympics 
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Sally goes on and gets to 
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Australia. 
It's a dream. 

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Clearly Desi dreamt and dreamt 
of being an Olympian, right? 

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And she hasn't been able to get 
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athlete. 
She turned her attention to this

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to winter, a winter sport. 
And you saw there's a video up 

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on her Instagram. 
You can go and find it yourself.

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The moment she and her her 
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realise they've qualified for 
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It's so cool to watch. 
And that's I think that's what's

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truly unique about Olympic 
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drafting when the AFL players 
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becoming Olympians, it's so 
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It's awesome to watch and she 
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she has a really, really good 
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Authentic self yeah and a 
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she's got an over 1,000,000 
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than most of our oh really yeah 
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Instagram I. 
Haven't I? 

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So I didn't see it on Instagram.
I just watched 1 YouTube. 

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Yeah, yeah, that's the other 
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When I got my when I read 
Britt's comment and and learned 

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about Desi, Yeah, right. 
I clicked and I was thought 

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niche sport, niche athlete, 
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Now for context, Scotty James, 
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about 550,000 followers, helps 
that Desi's an attractive young 

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woman. 
That's just the reality of 

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social media. 
But well done to Desi. 

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Share that Desi. 
Well done. 

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Yeah. 
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So yeah, good luck, Good luck. 
The event I want to talk about 

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though that came up is I was 
gonna call it schema. 

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We've talked about Schemo. 
This is a bit This is not 

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Morrison. 
They went to Olympics. 

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This is a little bit like that. 
You know when I think High Rocks

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was saying we wanna be in the 
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like it's a commercial brand 
like Iron Man. 

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So we'll call it fitness racing 
and we'll join the triathlon 

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programme and try and get in 
that back way. 

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So Schemo is what we've talked 
about a lot of the European 

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trail athletes do in winter, 
long distance racing on skis. 

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Yeah, yeah, all those guys. 
We've got some, yeah, no, some 

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of the pretty much the best 
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to Schemo. 
So I was super excited seeing 

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that's well, they they call it 
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effectively also known as Schemo
is now in this is a new sport at

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this this Olympics. 
I'm like, sweet, all the people 

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I follow in running are gonna be
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No. 
What do you mean? 

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So I would assume that they they
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Yeah, so this is it's not this 
morning because it's still gonna

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be a great event, but the the 
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they've chosen is Sprint racing,
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take about 3 minutes. 
So there's actually no endurance

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factor. 
It's power. 

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It's a Sprint race, so it's 
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will have heats, semifinals and 
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relay. 
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So they're taking in like the 

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with the ski mountaineering, 
they're going to take in all 

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aspects of it. 
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Then you can you RIP the skins 

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off from underneath your skis to
go back downhill. 

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off your feet and run up steps 
in boots as well. 

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Oh. 
Jesus. 

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All within they're saying will 
take around 3 minutes. 

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So the course 2 laps per athlete
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Upstairs in Boots is dumb. 
That to me is that's that's 

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that's dumb. 
Like I that's taking it to a 

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that's if I feel like what what 
was that? 

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Remember, It's A Knockout that 
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morning where it have the states
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Do you? 
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far with the novelty I. 
Think you've gone like let them 

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keep their skis on and get to a 
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person releases a gate. 
You don't need them to run 

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upstairs. 
I was so excited when I saw all 

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this and I'm just like, yes, 
this is gonna be a great event 

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to watch on the big mountain, 
like a, you know, A2 to, you 

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know, hour and a half race or 
something. 

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Then like proper. 
No, no. 

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So now I'm back, more interested
in the biathlon. 

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They've turned it into T20 and 
they've it's the T20 version. 

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I don't even T20, it's T. 
Three, it's it's very, very 

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short, but we've got so an ex 
runner, Lara Hamilton. 

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OK. 
I know she did a bit of running 

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over in US and college as well 
around trails and that she's 

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going to be this. 
So she similar to story that we 

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were just talking about about 
Desi. 

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Yep, Runner 100% want to make 
the Olympics go into winter 

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sports. 
And interestingly, she was long 

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distance in trial, cross 
country, that type of thing. 

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Yeah, but she's obviously been 
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Sprint format. 
Good on that. 

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Yeah, couple of notes very 
quickly. 

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Now, before I give you these, 
can you help me create some sort

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of agency where I can, where I 
can present these ideas and make

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some money off them? 
Because I feel like some of 

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these, I'll keep giving them 
away for free, but at some point

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one of these ideas are going to 
turn and Miranda make money for 

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somebody because I haven't had 
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this into a business. 
OK, Somebody hit me up the other

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day about Bunnings taking over 
the Melbourne Marathon as well. 

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By the way, like legit? 
Or. 

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Semi I need I need help in 
formulizing. 

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Maybe we just need to create 
some sort of segment open up for

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when I have one of these ideas. 
OK. 

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What is it, Liam? 
I don't know what Liam's. 

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What's a It's a sports 
consultancy business, 

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essentially. 
Oh, no, I mean, what's the 

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Jingle? 
We're going to be able. 

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To do I'll I'll come on. 
I can say ski mountaineering, 

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terrible night, terrible night. 
Is Schemo better? 

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Schemo is great, but if it's 
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Olympics can't have it, I'm 
going to give you 22. 

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Two better names than Ski 
Mountaineering. 

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OK, Right. 
Firstly, we're going here. 

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Firstly, what are they doing? 
They're going the ski. 

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They're skiing uphill and 
downhill. 

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Are they going downhill as well?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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OK. 
Then that removes the first name

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I had, which was going to be, 
there's the downhill ski, call 

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it the uphill ski. 
Better name for the Olympic for 

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this Olympic event than Ski 
Mountaineering Power ski. 

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Yeah, OK. 
Better known. 

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How's it differentiate from 
cross country skiing? 

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Because that's cross country 
skiing. 

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This is power ski. 
This is why I thought they'd 

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really differentiate. 
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fact that the aerobic capacity 
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endurance athletes. 
Now, these are the power 

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athletes. 
So make a power ski. 

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Power ski hey. 
Look, we're I'm talking. 

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At Milano Cortina 2026 just. 
Just like we do with a lot of 

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things talking to how they are. 
I I'm thinking by athletes are 

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still going to be way more 
powerful. 

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These are so schemo are 
traditionally your your your 

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skinny runners. 
Yeah, but this isn't schemo 

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good. 
This is schemo. 

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But I thought you said it was 
shorter than Schemo. 

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Yeah, but it's it's with the 
equipment of schemo. 

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It's all about the equipment, 
Liam. 

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So you're using thicker ski, you
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and cross country skiing, 
they're on those super skiddy 

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skis and they're like they're 
matchsticks basically. 

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Sometimes they skate and I don't
know enough and then sometimes 

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they do the. 
Yeah, the shuffle. 

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Then whatever the shuffle. 
The Running Man. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
We rarely know our winter 

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scores. 
Thicker skis but when they go 

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uphill instead of doing the the 
skate. 

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They run no. 
They put skins like a grip on 

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the bottom of their ski. 
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And then that allow that grips 
on the snow, which allows them 

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to propel themselves up the 
hill. 

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It's more of a running motion. 
Yeah, so called power ski. 

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I just what would you rather 
watch? 

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You're flicking through and 
you're like, they're like coming

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up next on the Milano Cortina 
2026 coverage. 

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It's the ski mountaineering. 
I agree it's the wrong name. 

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Coming up next, power ski. 
Power Ski. 

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Yeah, they're they're good call.
You would watch power ski 

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because when I hear ski 
mountaineering, all I think 

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about is someone locked on the 
side of a mountain. 

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Like I think, yeah, you're up in
the mountain mountaineering, but

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you're not. 
No, I'm thinking this is going 

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to be around a stadium, like 
when they put the the alligators

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in the cross country over. 
The fuller let's call ski rocks 

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and really piss off high rocks. 
All right, hey, can we stay with

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the Winter Olympics for a 
moment? 

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Of course, because I want to get
to Scotty James. 

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Firstly, I just want to ask you 
a question that popped into my 

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head as I was literally just 
walking in your gate. 

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What's the 100 metre medal of 
the Winter Olympics? 

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We consider the 100 metre 
Sprint, the blue riband event of

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the Summer Olympics. 
What do you consider? 

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There's no right answer. 
What do you consider to be the 

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gold medal of the Winter Olympic
Games? 

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Again, without having yeah much 
information, I would say speed 

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skating. 
You would say scouting. 

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Would you? 
I would say the and I don't even

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know the distances, not the, not
the short track. 

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OK. 
But long track? 

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Maybe it's like the 1000 metre 
long track speed skating. 

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OK. 
You know which one I'm talking 

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about. 
Like the, the, the when? 

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You know when they're wearing 
the not the Steve Bradbury. 

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No, no interest. 
Yeah. 

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Where it's the individual. 
Essentially, it's like a, it's 

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like a, it's like a. 
Like the 400 metre track, yeah. 

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Like they do it the velodrome. 
Yeah, yeah, interesting. 

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What's yours? 
I have thought about this. 

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I'm I'm just typing in. 
He's trying to get what, what, 

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what? 
I want to know what what ChatGPT

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would say, right? 
Because I have a pin. 

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Because, and here's my logic, 
when I think Winter Olympics, I 

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think skiing, downhill skiing, 
it has to be a skiing event, not

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downhill skiing because there's 
so many variations. 

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There's the giant slalom, 
there's the Super X or whatever 

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they're called. 
I think it's the area. 

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I think it's the ski jump. 
No. 

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I think it's the ski. 
Jump No, we, you're just, we're 

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just skewed as Australians 
because we had all these 

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gymnasts who can do that, 
that's. 

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The most. 
No, no, no, not not Elisa 

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Kamplin. 
Oh, you're. 

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Talking about I'm. 
Thinking that Eddie the Eagles, 

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right? 
I think that. 

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Is what's chat say Chat? 
Are you there? 

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Is the men's downhill Alpine 
skiing? 

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That's what chat Chi BC. 
Second second thing. 

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It says that men's downhill, 
sometimes you hear it also they 

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refer to as the thousand metre 
speed sky or the men's ice 

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hockey gold medal game, which I 
get as well. 

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I'd agree with all those three. 
I Yeah, two out of three, 

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anyway. 
But enough about that. 

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You watch the Olympics, decide 
for your own What's the best 

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gold medal given out at the 
Olympics? 

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Let's talk about our best 
Olympic gold medal hope at these

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Games, Scotty James. 
Is he a bet? 

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I mean, he's the favourite for 
the gold. 

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He's definitely the favourite 
for the gold. 

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He's our best gold medal. 
Have we got any other? 

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I think we've got some. 
Jakara Anthony's I think is a 

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good show. 
There's a couple of others, but.

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I don't want to disappear into 
the rest of the team. 

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I want to focus in on Scotty 
because this is a man with a 

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Netflix special. 
That's how much the anticipation

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is building into these games for
31 year old Scotty James. 

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Olympics number 5, right? 
Just became the NUM, you know, 

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the greatest next game. 
Yeah, world champion his his 

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position as 1/2 pipe snowboarder
is unquestionable. 

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He's considered by meaning to be
the greatest of all time. 

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Him and Shaun White obviously 
head to head. 

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When did you meet Scotty? 
How do you know Scotty? 

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Scotty's obviously a Red Bull 
athlete. 

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When did you first meet Scotty? 
First first time I met Scotty I 

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was in a Perth hotel down on the
water and I remember plain as 

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day me and my wife were were 
checking in. 

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I think I've told this story 
too. 

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I. 
Don't think you have. 

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So we're checking in. 
We're over at the Red Bull Air 

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Race. 
So all the athletes were coming 

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in from around the country. 
They Red Bull just signed 

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Scotty, I think he was 14. 
Anyway, he, he went to check in.

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I'd never met him, but he went 
to check in next to me at the 

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counter. 
He never had a credit card. 

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You can't check into a hotel. 
So our athlete manager, they're 

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like someone from the business 
wouldn't have came and checked 

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him in with a business card or 
whatever else. 

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But at the time I was just 
standing there. 

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And I mean, I was probably what,
I would have only been young 

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20s. 
Yeah. 

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And he just married or whatever,
or maybe not even married. 

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And yeah, I put, I was like, 
jeez. 

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And I put my credit card down on
his room. 

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So young 14 year old Scotty 
James, you know, he could have 

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went wild on my credit card if 
he wanted to, I suppose. 

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But yeah, that was the first 
first time I actually met him. 

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And it's funny because like in 
later life, when I run into him 

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at different Red Bull things 
over the years, like he's 

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brought it up a few times. 
Like has he? 

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Because as a young guy, that's 
what you you remember those 

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first scenes that would. 
Stick in his brain? 

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Absolutely. 
Yeah. 

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So that's where you've met him 
as a 14 year old? 

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That's where I first met him and
then over, you know, I mean, he 

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must be nearly. 
Well, he's 31 now. 

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He's 17 years so. 14 To what do 
you say 31? 

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31 so he's 17 years old now. 
Sorry, sorry. 

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He's you've known him for 17 
years. 

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So 17 here, yeah. 
So over those 17 years here and 

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there, different times, 
different events. 

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Yeah. 
And have you got to spend much 

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time with him as an like No. 
Have you done any training with 

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him? 
No, no. 

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OK, no. 
What do you know about him from 

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a Do you know much about him 
from speaking to other people 

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within Red Bull or within 
programme? 

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What, what? 
What is the reputation of Scotty

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James, the athlete or the even 
the person? 

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00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,400
I mean, I haven't watched the 
doco, but I'm assuming the doco 

451
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,560
would have covered this. 
There was a, there was a point 

452
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,640
in Scotty's career where, yeah, 
he he was amazing as a young kid

453
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,480
and multiple Olympics and doing 
all that. 

454
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,040
But I think there was a 
deflection point where or like a

455
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,720
point where he just went. 
I'm either all in or I'm, you 

456
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,640
know, not. 
And he put a team around him and

457
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,480
just put the effort, I suppose, 
in to get where he is. 

458
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,560
And he's, you know, from my 
understanding of what I've, you 

459
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,280
know, seen and heard is he's 
just worked hard at doing the 

460
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,600
right things and meant like, I 
don't understand too much about 

461
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,360
the mind coach stuff that he's 
used. 

462
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:26,080
But guys out, you know, a lot of
stuff in Europe, a lot of stuff,

463
00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:28,520
I believe it's maybe the same 
guy that's in the F1. 

464
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,800
I don't have all the history, so
I'm not going to, you know, I 

465
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,720
don't want to, I'm sure this is 
all in the doco, some of it. 

466
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,400
But from my, from my 
perspective, I've just seen a 

467
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,560
kid who, you know, went through 
to a point where he is doing 

468
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,280
very, very well. 
And then it, it seemed or 

469
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,800
appeared to me within a few 
months, he was suddenly just the

470
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,080
best in the world and, and 
continued to do that. 

471
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:53,720
And I think it's probably a bit 
of a like, if this is the way I 

472
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,520
always look at it, if you went 
to any winter ski field around 

473
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,200
the globe, he is a man. 
Yeah, right. 

474
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,520
But being number one in half 
pipe is the it's that event or 

475
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,120
it's that discipline. 
You could go to Whistler, you 

476
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:13,920
get any place around the globe 
in winter sport and he is that 

477
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,320
guy. 
But he just doesn't get that in 

478
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,480
Australia because we're just not
a snow, we're just not a snow 

479
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,920
nation, are we? 
It was so except for the Winter 

480
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,680
Olympics. 
It's very rare that you'd ever 

481
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,320
consider snow sports or see it. 
To go back on some things you 

482
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,680
touched on there, if it, if 
people haven't seen the Netflix 

483
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,560
doco, go and watch it. 
It is an interesting watch. 

484
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,440
You talk about the things he's 
put in place. 

485
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,440
It seems like the decision to 
bring his brothers into his 

486
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,000
fold. 
Sean and Tim. 

487
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,160
I think it's Sean. 
No, Tim. 

488
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,680
I beg your pardon, Tim. 
He's actually used to work at 

489
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,880
the same radio station I did, 
also within the same network. 

490
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,720
He's a he used to be a producer 
then in Melbourne. 

491
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,200
But his decision to bring Sean 
and Tim and make them a part of 

492
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,840
his team for everywhere was 
huge. 

493
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,600
I think his wife Chloe and and 
becoming a husband and a father 

494
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,920
and all the rest of that has 
also been a part of it. 

495
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,560
I think that was later though he
made the the switch was prior to

496
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,320
that he his performance switch. 
You're talking about 

497
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,760
performance? 
Yeah, absolutely. 

498
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:22,600
I want to do a hypothetical 
exercise with you quickly. 

499
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,880
Yeah. 
If Scotty James, who's won a 

500
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,360
this is Olympics #5 he's 31 
years of age. 

501
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:30,720
If he's already won a bronze and
a silver in his event, if he 

502
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,840
brings home a gold, where does 
he sit? 

503
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,440
In our Athlete Hall of Fame on 
our athlete bookshelf. 

504
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,360
It's an interesting one. 
Because, and let me preface this

505
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:50,320
by saying, I think on our 
Olympic bookshelf, I think 

506
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,560
there's an, I'll explain it, 
justify this. 

507
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,960
I actually think there's only 
two athletes on the top shelf. 

508
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,880
And I and I say that from a not 
just the number of gold medals, 

509
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,240
but from a legacy, the way 
they're held, the reverence with

510
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:09,720
which they're held and the true 
stardom with which they reached.

511
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,720
I've only got 2 up on that top 
shelf. 

512
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,400
And one's gonna be Kathy 1's. 
Kathy and and with all due 

513
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:19,600
respect to the sort of the older
athletes like Betty Cuthbert and

514
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,240
Shirley Strickland, undeniable, 
but that was kind of before 

515
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,800
athletes became superstars. 
So they are on a lower shelf. 

516
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,120
Can I guess a second? 
Yeah. 

517
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,600
Thorpe, Thorpe. 
They're the only two athletes I 

518
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,960
have on that level. 
I think. 

519
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,040
McKeon. 
Is that, is that because? 

520
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,360
So my question on that is, is 
that because of Sydney? 

521
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,960
Is that because? 
Of I think, I think it's a part 

522
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,280
of it. 
I think it's a part of it. 

523
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,200
I think Sydney performance at 
the home Olympics weighs heavily

524
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,880
into that and I just think. 
See, I see, I see Kieran Perkins

525
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,080
as a swimmer, Yep, on that 
pedestal because it's a 

526
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:05,880
generation before, but he was 
doing things at a time where we 

527
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,200
were. 
And don't quote me on the 

528
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,240
number, we can look it up, but 
remember the time when Australia

529
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,560
we only win a few gold medals. 
In the Olympic Games. 

530
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,480
So you had 5 heroes? 
Our appetite's changed, hasn't 

531
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,720
it? 
That that if I said one thing 

532
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,840
about the Olympic Games, it's me
growing up as a kid watching it 

533
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,520
and wanting to go to an Olympic 
Games and looking at, you know, 

534
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,240
what you'd consider heroes and 
who they are like. 

535
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,960
I'm talking a young kid. 
That's the biggest thing that's 

536
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,840
changed with Australian sport 
over time. 

537
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,960
And I think the second biggest 
change was then social media. 

538
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,640
But the first biggest change 
with when we're talking Olympic 

539
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:45,520
sports here was the saturation 
of gold medals made it harder 

540
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,080
for anyone else beyond that to 
then beyond the Sydney Olympics 

541
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,000
to then kind of get that same 
foothold of stardom. 

542
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,920
It was the same at Sydney. 
We want to shoot like a lot of 

543
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,200
medals too, but because it was a
home Olympics and you had those 

544
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,000
few stand outs, they will last 
forever. 

545
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,160
But ever since then, I think 
it's been a tough ask for anyone

546
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,080
else because you can go like 
enemies. 

547
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,680
Enemies is I have her on the 
shelf, I have her on the 

548
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,480
bookshelf. 
She's not up there. 

549
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,680
She's probably sitting. 3rd or 
4th shelf from the top if 

550
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:21,400
enemies was pre Sydney 2000. 
Different different stories. 

551
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,320
I agree. 
Saturation of our sport, of our,

552
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,000
of our Olympic gold has killed 
our heroes well. 

553
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:31,200
Emma McCain's a proof that it's 
not just about quantity, 

554
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,160
correct? 
Because she is our most 

555
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,920
successful Olympian ever. 
But I don't think she sits on 

556
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,480
that same top shelf alongside 
Kathy or Thorpey. 

557
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,880
She probably doesn't even get 
there alongside Betty Cuthbert 

558
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,800
and those you know, those 
athletes have have bygone eras. 

559
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,560
Jess Fox is an interesting case 
study in this because the 

560
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,760
darling of the Olympic setup for
probably the last two games, the

561
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,040
sport that she competes in has 
not for her sake, but 

562
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,760
artificially manufactured 
greater medal winning chances, 

563
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,160
which means Jess's hall has 
swelled. 

564
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,360
I think Jess, Jess's personality
and her team, the way she 

565
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:16,320
presents herself, she has the 
capacity to reach the Thorpy and

566
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,640
Freeman celebratory level. 
I don't she's not there. 

567
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,760
In my opinion, she is one of our
greatest Olympians, but she's 

568
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,920
not on that top shelf. 
To go back to Scotty. 

569
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,480
Yep. 
And sorry to say, with with 

570
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,960
Kieran, the performances are 
undeniable. 

571
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,080
I don't have him on that fame 
level. 

572
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,880
I don't think his fame hit the 
Thorpy and Cathy point. 

573
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,600
I don't think he was ever. 
He was big. 

574
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:48,640
At those Olympics, though, I. 
Yes, but I don't think it quite 

575
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,720
carries, Yeah. 
I'm, I'm, I'm also wondering 

576
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,560
whether it's, it's your 
generation, that course, you 

577
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,640
know, of course which generation
you go through. 

578
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,400
Courtney I can only speak for my
generation. 

579
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,360
I'm not going to speak for 
anyone else's. 

580
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:07,160
Perkins Susie To another extent,
Susie, you know, and it's a very

581
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,240
it's a very jam packed star 
started second shelf down. 

582
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:17,200
So why Thorpy over the rest? 
I just think I mean. 

583
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,120
Does it come down to the 
marketability and PR of? 

584
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,040
The well, not that's not the 
only factor, but it is a factor.

585
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:28,200
It is a factor and I think I I 
you know what also a part of it 

586
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,840
the this is going to sound weird
and self serving because I 

587
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,920
commentate sport. 
The commentary moment matters. 

588
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,920
Yes, here comes Thorpe. 
Yeah, I can hear the commentary 

589
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,240
as he swam down Gary Hall. 
Junior. 

590
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,200
I can hear you and him rising 
out of the like. 

591
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,600
All of that sticks in my memory.
I can hear Bruce calling Kathy 

592
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,440
around the home straight. 
It's the stickiness of the 

593
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,800
moment. 
Yeah, but. 

594
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,800
And yes, Perkins had that from 
my night and I can recall part 

595
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,440
of that anyway, no, if it's if 
it. 

596
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,920
Does no interestingly around 
that because I the more we've 

597
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,720
just talked about this, the more
I can actually see it's the 

598
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,200
market, the marketing, you're 
right on the moment, the 

599
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,640
commentary, but it's also, you 
know, the build up to that 

600
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,720
event. 
But then it's also one of those 

601
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,880
two athletes got in common that 
you just said. 

602
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,640
Both wore unique suits that are 
memorable and no one else wore 

603
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,520
good in the full black. 
All black added as everyone 

604
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,480
else, Speedo. 
Kathy in the hood. 

605
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,000
And Kathy wore the hood, the 
only person you've pretty much 

606
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,040
ever seen that. 
So it's all these things that I 

607
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,200
think subconsciously add up to 
become. 

608
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,200
So you're dead, right. 
It's not the performance is part

609
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,040
of it. 
It is. 

610
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,960
You've got to have the best. 
Performance, performance. 

611
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,960
You still got to win, but. 
You've got to have the hook. 

612
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,200
The intangibles. 
That never is forgotten and that

613
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,200
has to do with the build up, but
it also has to do with who they 

614
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,760
are and that's. 
The narrative matters, the 

615
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,280
narrative matters. 
The narrative matters. 

616
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,040
You've really helped me. 
This has been enjoyable. 

617
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,200
With that said, what would you 
have raised in back in your day 

618
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,600
now knowing now the narrative 
matters? 

619
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,560
It's. 
Still not a fall back too. 

620
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,440
Sorry to take it all the way 
back to Scotty. 

621
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,280
I don't think, as you said, 
we're not a snow nation, we're 

622
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,000
not a winter nation. 
So he'll never make that top 

623
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,640
shelf. 
But if he comes home with a gold

624
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,640
medal, I think he sits on that 
second shelf. 

625
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,200
I think he sits next. 
Rundown, full complement of 

626
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,640
Olympic medals, 5 Olympic Games,
Winter Olympic Games, 

627
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,680
undeniable. 
Like I made the joke on on radio

628
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,960
earlier this week, rename Mount 
Hotham. 

629
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,320
I don't know, rename, rename it 
to Scotty James Mountain Mount 

630
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,320
Scott. 
Something needs to be 

631
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,360
acknowledged within that small 
winter community. 

632
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,640
And I'm sure there probably are 
already things there named after

633
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,440
him, but there needs to be 
something more. 

634
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,160
If he brings home a Winter 
Olympic gold medal in this half 

635
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,360
pot it I think he he locks 
himself in as our greatest ever 

636
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,160
Winter Olympian. 
See, I don't know enough about 

637
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,040
the Winter Olympics to even know
what other well. 

638
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:08,080
We've had Bradbury, we've had 
Kemplin, yeah, we've had Dale 

639
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,080
Beg Smith, who was Canadian. 
Who? 

640
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,480
So over multiple Olympics, 100%,
yeah. 

641
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,200
But anyway, yeah, no, I agree 
100% with Elaine that yes, you, 

642
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,640
you're correct. 
I just don't think I still just 

643
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,560
I, I mean, I just you see it. 
I mean, it's if you don't have 

644
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,480
to think it, you just see it. 
Winter Olympics, it'll be on for

645
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,520
three weeks and everyone will 
talk about it, but we just. 

646
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,320
Aren't a snow nation. 
We're not a snow nation. 

647
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,560
But. 
Anywhere else in the world, 

648
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,200
these guys are superstars. 
Let's move on from the games. 

649
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,920
Yep, let's get into some more 
running stuff. 

650
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,880
We had lots of thank you to 
everybody that jumped in on. 

651
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,120
We had so many comments off the 
back of last week. 

652
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,880
Yeah, I'm conscious of the time 
because we want to get through. 

653
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,880
We want, we want to get through.
We got. 

654
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,840
Yeah, probably too much. 
That's OK, We're going to always

655
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,280
come back. 
We'll get to it. 

656
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,080
First one is did you go down the
beach to watch The Iron Man? 

657
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,920
The weekend, well I mean I as 
much as I want to get to some 

658
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,240
running chat. 
No, no, no, no. 

659
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,240
The reason is because I'm going 
to talk about Joshie Minogue. 

660
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,520
Yes, I went down there Ally Day,
just quickly talking about 

661
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,360
Kathy, what I witnessed on the 
Sunday, last Sunday, Ally Day 

662
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,880
that was, that is one of the 
best sporting fairy tales I've 

663
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,040
ever seen. 
Agreed, I will keep this short. 

664
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:23,080
Agreed. 
Still not Trevor Handy. 

665
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,000
What do you mean? 
No, no, we're talking about the 

666
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,040
performances 100%. 
But he's still never going to be

667
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:37,120
Trevor Hendy because of the time
when Trevor Hendy and Guy Leach 

668
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,520
and. 
The Mercer's. 

669
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,760
Never going to be the same 
because it's all about the 

670
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,480
moments. 
And I probably be honest, I was 

671
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,719
down there for the moment on 
Sunday and it was amazing. 

672
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,719
I I I 100% agree and Ali it. 
Was amazing. 

673
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,679
Absolutely. 
Crush it, Shannon. 

674
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:55,520
Next time. 
Yeah, You would have said the 

675
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,840
same thing about him when he 
finished up and won. 

676
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,520
Yeah. 
Three. 

677
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,040
Well, no, probably a little bit 
longer ago, but there's still 

678
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,760
never been a time like when PR 
had Iron Men on their breakfast 

679
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,760
cereal boxes and it was it was 
on every weekend. 

680
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,520
It's a good point. 
But Josh, he mean, I obviously 

681
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,080
down there commentating, yes, 
you obviously ran into him. 

682
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,440
Yeah. 
He wrote into us and said he 

683
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,120
want to just say thank you. 
Thank you. 

684
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,000
He appreciated the call. 
At last because he commentated 

685
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,240
the Billy Swim run as well with 
toy. 

686
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:27,520
But he will let's just before we
get into the your Milo stuff, 

687
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,960
that Apex stuff, I said I 
wouldn't, I wouldn't mention 

688
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,720
again, but Josh is written in. 
He's going to put in his two 

689
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:37,240
bobs 2 seconds, right? 
Personally, he thinks we should 

690
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:41,400
expand it to the bench. 
OK, so keeping the 10 by 110 

691
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,720
bench? 
He reckons that it should, like 

692
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:48,240
I like me, come down to a 240. 
Marathon Marathon should be a 

693
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,120
lower 1240 marathon time. 
Even down to 232. 30's insane. 

694
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,560
But if you want to make it real 
and you these, you're calling 

695
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,840
yourself hybrid athletes and 
it's the best of the best. 

696
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,640
What about swimming sub 404 
hundred metres sub. 

697
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,320
Four minute 400 metres right. 
Yep, 25 body weight chins with a

698
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,120
no break. 
OK, right. 

699
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,400
And then just to throw it in the
mix, because, you know, if 

700
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,560
you're throwing everything in 
the mix, why not have a sub 90 

701
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,720
girlfriend? 
That'll be the hardest one for a

702
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,320
lot of people to break 90. 
If you really want to be all 

703
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:30,520
rounder, if you want to go. 
We still have to have our golf 

704
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,960
challenge. 
We. 

705
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,560
We do. 
We still have to have our golf 

706
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,960
challenge. 
Courtney reckons he can knock me

707
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,200
off on the. 
Golf course and just and then 

708
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,040
the last thing I want to say and
we less than try not to mention 

709
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,120
it again. 
OK, but Jake Bart wrote in and 

710
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,360
he he sent me a that's a reel 
and I'm not even going to 

711
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,680
mention who the reel was, but he
said absolute apex athlete. 

712
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,680
And I don't know whether you 
were taking the piss a little 

713
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,640
bit Jake or not, but if you 
weren't sorry, can't agree with 

714
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,840
you. 
Yeah, this person, 2/26 marathon

715
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,400
telling everyone he can do that 
on Yeah, on a treadmill. 

716
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,160
Nah doesn't count. 
On a random treadmill in the 

717
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,000
gym. 
Nah, shut up, come on. 

718
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,040
Doesn't count. 
Come on. 

719
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,840
Just Alex Rigby's son's high 
performance. 

720
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,160
Who's waiting on this APX 
athletes stuff before I was 

721
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,480
having a chat with him down at 
the beach. 

722
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,320
Oh yeah, And Kurt Tippett. 
Oh yeah, Tippet, big Tippet was 

723
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,720
there as well. 
And Tippet said he wasn't much 

724
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:24,680
of A bench press guy on his day,
but he was. 

725
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,200
He was more of a chin up guy but
reckons that he maxed out his 

726
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,880
bench at about 1:30 for context.
For one Rep. 

727
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,480
For like that was his three Rep.
3 reps 3 reps They use three 

728
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,880
reps. 
Yeah, they use a three way Max 

729
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,720
so. 
He's a big lad, He's a. 

730
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,520
Big human being. 
Anyway, let's talk some running.

731
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,440
Yeah, so your Milo tips mate, 
everyone, this is what probably 

732
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,040
most of the stuff's coming 
about. 

733
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,880
First one, Luke Cusack. 
Yep. 

734
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,440
Loving all the T100 chats. 
Great. 

735
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,800
And then he said, Liam, just 
wear the balloon if it's only to

736
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,120
piss Courtney off. 
I'm wearing the balloon. 

737
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,680
This is at the T110K race. 
I'm going to. 

738
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,280
I'm going to take scissors with 
me if you're right. 

739
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,040
Mate, if if you, if you're close
enough to me to chop that 

740
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,920
balloon, something's gone very 
wrong in your race. 

741
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,320
I'll see you at the start line. 
If I see a balloon it's getting,

742
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,920
it's getting chopped. 
Again, T110K race. 

743
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,800
Go sign up, tell them you're 
part of in the beginning when 

744
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,000
you do registration. 
It's going to be a fun day. 

745
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,160
And why not just on the Milo 
stuff? 

746
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,200
Liam, good to get the tips from 
everyone, but why aren't you 

747
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,440
getting coached properly and 
getting proper advice? 

748
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,640
It's a good question. 
It's a good question. 

749
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,120
Why? 
I don't have an answer to that. 

750
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,760
I am going to reach out to Carl 
Weiss. 

751
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,960
Carl Weiss Weiss. 
Never quite sure how to say Carl

752
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,320
surname. 
There's a lot of vows in there. 

753
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,960
I'm going to reach out to Carl 
because I do want to have a 

754
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,920
chat. 
I don't the thing. 

755
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,400
Here's what I'll say. 
I like it, I like it. 

756
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:57,080
I'm really enjoying. 
Setting my own schedule. 

757
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,200
I've literally today we're 
recording and I've just come 

758
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,240
from today's a rest day for me. 
I've just come from the physio 

759
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,240
or not physio, but getting 
needle needling done on my 

760
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,000
calves. 
No, no injuries, just 

761
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,040
maintenance. 
And she asked the question how 

762
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,880
how you fitting in all the 
running and the mileage around 

763
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,120
life. 
And I'm like, I'm not willing to

764
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,280
sacrifice family time for the 
running. 

765
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,200
So I'm fitting in the running. 
I'm running at awkward times, 

766
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,880
I'm running in the middle of the
day when it's hot. 

767
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,320
I'm running really early in the 
morning on weekends. 

768
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,120
In the trail, I'd love to get up
to different spots, but the 

769
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,880
beauty of the border trail is 
its proximity to me so I can fit

770
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,200
it in. 
I guess the reason I haven't 

771
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,760
embraced a full programme from a
coach or use the coach at this 

772
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,080
point is because I don't know 
how hard I can commit to 

773
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,560
whatever it is they're going to 
prescribe. 

774
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,200
It's an interesting one. 
I don't know, like if if I go 

775
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,600
and see Kyle or if I went and 
saw Bonita or Eddie Gordon or 

776
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,000
something like that and they 
started laying out, well, here's

777
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,120
what you need to do and here's 
where you need to go and do it. 

778
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,960
I don't know if I can commit to 
that. 

779
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,240
I, I don't know if with, because
I'm back into work mode, I'll be

780
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,280
back into calling footy on 
weekends too as well. 

781
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,880
My kids are back at school. 
I've got all these other like 

782
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,000
most recreational runners, I've 
got all these things. 

783
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,600
I know that. 
Coach would prepare me better 

784
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,960
for this race. 
I know I've been through half of

785
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,920
a programme with Benita and I 
already saw the difference 

786
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,920
between using an AI generated 
programme versus using a 

787
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,480
personal coach. 
Advocate for that lace up 

788
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,600
running. 
If you're looking for a coach, 

789
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,000
go check out Benita and her 
team. 

790
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,360
But at the moment I'm 
progressing well. 

791
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,200
I'm building the case, I'm 
building the time on my feet. 

792
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,800
I'm being disciplined enough. 
I feel like I've made enough 

793
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,800
mistakes in my running 
previously that I know what not 

794
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,440
to be doing at least. 
And I'm also conscious that this

795
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,960
event is less about, well, it's 
not less about, it's not about 

796
00:40:52,960 --> 00:41:00,040
time, it's about finishing. 
And I'm prepared that I'm I'd 

797
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,880
rather get to the line under 
prepared, having kept a balance 

798
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,920
in the lead up. 
Yep, than losing that balance to

799
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,600
maybe finish an hour faster. 
That was a long winded way of 

800
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,880
saying I don't have a catch. 
I can't disagree. 

801
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,040
Yeah, I mean, I I do still 
think, I still think guidance 

802
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,760
and what you're getting right 
from every unit, just taking it 

803
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,880
on from everyone. 
And if you don't trust me, if 

804
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,600
you don't, there's guidance. 
Out there and it's getting to 

805
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,560
me. 
If you don't, If you don't 

806
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,080
think, if you don't think you 
need the motivation and the 

807
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,440
accountability from the coach 
and you want to do it your way, 

808
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,840
go for it. 
I mean, that's that's another 

809
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,720
way to attack it, right. 
And you can get a lot of self 

810
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,280
self satisfaction out of doing 
it that way as well. 

811
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,680
And that sounds like you know 
that for everything. 

812
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:55,120
I just heard that that. 
Sounds what you weren't. 

813
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,240
We got one comment and this will
inform we'll talk about this 

814
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:00,840
today and I'll I want to get 
your thoughts. 

815
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,440
This is probably where a coach 
could answer these questions, 

816
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,800
but I like talking about it with
you. 

817
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Eco Romeo or Romeo Eco Romeo, I 
don't know how to say where. 

818
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,960
This is nice. 
This is a comment from last 

819
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,480
week's episode. 
Nice discussion on the mile of 

820
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,600
training. 
My 2 cents. 1A mile of training 

821
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,640
isn't that different from 
marathon training, only has 

822
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,960
longer long runs. 
Also you are carrying on fitness

823
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,880
from prior training 2 and this 
is where I want to get with you 

824
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,920
today. 
Nutrition is king. 

825
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,000
You can show up physically under
trained and still finish it, but

826
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,160
if you haven't trained your gut 
to keep fueling all the way you 

827
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,360
won't finish. 
Cheers. 

828
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,000
Yep, fuelling this is what I 
want to talk about, that idea of

829
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,280
training gut. 
Now I went for some of my runs. 

830
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,000
In fact my one of my runs 
earlier this week, I tried is it

831
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,120
Morton? 
Morton, The Morton Gels. 

832
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,600
Yeah, First time I've used them 
really different. 

833
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,760
I hadn't, Hadn't I ever. 
Who did I give the Morton to? 

834
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,360
Oh, Bronte. 
OK. 

835
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,360
You gave them to Bronte really 
different. 

836
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,800
It's it's very, very different 
from those goo gels that I've 

837
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,800
been using previously. 
Yeah, well, it's like a Jelly. 

838
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,040
It's almost a jel. 
It's a Jelly as opposed to a 

839
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,640
syrup. 
Yes, a thick syrup. 

840
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,120
Didn't like it. 
Didn't like the texture, didn't 

841
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,800
like the texture. 
Can go one or two ways. 

842
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,640
Felt good though, like I've made
sure I consumed it with liquid, 

843
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,320
made it much easier. 
Didn't like the Jelly texture. 

844
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:29,080
But this idea of training my gut
to run and training my gut to 

845
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,280
consume food, I've been trying 
this week. 

846
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:35,720
Like I basically just eat then 
run. 

847
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,600
So like I'm, I'm having, I'm 
not, I'm waking up or I'm, if I 

848
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,160
get home, just if this is a 
12:00 PM run, I'll get home and 

849
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,160
I'll have my omelette or my 
sandwich or whatever it is I'm 

850
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,040
having for lunch and then I'll 
just go. 

851
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,840
Is that training my gut? 
I would say I mean yes. 

852
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,520
Common sense would say yes. 
That's what I'm applying right 

853
00:43:59,520 --> 00:43:59,760
now. 
That's. 

854
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,880
Not a technical answer, but 
common sense would. 

855
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,520
If you're at an aid station and 
you need to eat, Yeah. 

856
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,480
I'm just wondering if you're, if
you're feeling your gut, if 

857
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,640
you're feeling your stomach up 
when you haven't run yet and 

858
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,080
it's like what's at rest? 
Is it a whole different scenario

859
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,280
when you're then within a race? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

860
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,960
OK. 
So it's not so much the yeah, 

861
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:27,040
because we are applying common 
sense, not nutritional health 

862
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,360
expertise. 
And this is another place where 

863
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,560
I think the coach or a like a 
proper dietitian would give it 

864
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,080
will steer you. 
And depending on which way you 

865
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,080
want to go with this can steer 
you in two very different 

866
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,440
directions because you could go 
to a sports dietitian and 

867
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,520
they're going to they're going 
to lay out the most perfect 

868
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,920
preparation of, you know, sports
drinks, gels, probably a little 

869
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,240
bit of solid food in there as 
well. 

870
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:54,320
But probably I still think 
leaning towards very simple, you

871
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,920
know, like utilising sports bars
and things like that. 

872
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:02,720
So it's still, you know, low 
fat, very performance orientated

873
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:04,520
is if you want to try and win 
the race. 

874
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,000
OK, I'm going to go the opposite
way and go some of my 

875
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,640
experiences, what I've seen with
elites and at like coast to 

876
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,560
coast and some of these longer 
races, especially when they can 

877
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,080
be cold at night and things like
that, is having the comfort of 

878
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,800
proper food and being able to 
stomach that is going to be a 

879
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,840
huge benefit to you and be able 
to like that same difference of 

880
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:32,240
his like, yeah, this mightn't be
like the perfect performance mix

881
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,720
to Mars Bar might taste really. 
Good and be. 

882
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:38,280
And could be good mentally for 
you at that stage. 

883
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:43,760
Or, you know, if it's a really 
hot day, someone brought you a 

884
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,080
slushie, Yeah, it might be like 
the perfect sports drink mix. 

885
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,920
But that might be the thing that
actually at that point in time 

886
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,920
can really mentally help you get
across that hot day. 

887
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,360
Yeah, that's where I think you, 
you, you know, you should just 

888
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,360
start to try and explore as to 
what foods when you get into 

889
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,840
those really long runs, resonate
with you. 

890
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,120
Is it savoury? 
Is it sausage rolls? 

891
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,960
Is it, what is it? 
Yeah, you're gonna be out there 

892
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,520
a long. 
Time I'll tell you what has been

893
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,800
resonating with me on these runs
and post runs and I've grabbed 

894
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:18,160
one pre run I was doing just 
A16K the other day I had a 

895
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,960
couple of Mortons along the run 
and second Morton. 

896
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,360
I was like I had I wasn't near a
bubbler or anything. 

897
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,200
I didn't have any water with me 
and I was like this. 

898
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,160
I don't want to just. 
So the Mortons are actually made

899
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,720
the the the the gel formulator 
is actually so you don't 

900
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,120
necessarily. 
Yeah, but I hate the texture of 

901
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,000
them. 
You should just go to go to ASIS

902
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,640
or something, yeah. 
My I am all aboard Maximus. 

903
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,720
I can't. 
I am team. 

904
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:46,920
Like I don't know if they 
sponsor 41 year old amateur 

905
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,680
athletes that don't really ever 
finish anywhere, you know, 

906
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,400
forward of the top half of a 
race. 

907
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,560
But if Maximus are interested, 
I'm calling you I I have 

908
00:46:55,560 --> 00:47:00,120
invested I I have I love them. 
Now I am in shout out to 

909
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,520
Gatorade and parade as well. 
But right now like and what I 

910
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,920
respect. 
We got like someone remember 

911
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,240
when we talked, I was comparing 
them all and there was like, 

912
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:12,120
it's not necessarily the perfect
one, no, but it's the best 1. 

913
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,080
I don't care. 
You know what? 

914
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:13,560
I. 
What's in it? 

915
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,480
I love all the flavours, I 
really do. 

916
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,200
What I respect most about the 
flavours, particularly two of 

917
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,240
them, is the blue one. 
Do you know what the blue one's 

918
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:23,120
called? 
I've never really taken notice. 

919
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,320
Blue Blast. 
Blue, hot blue. 

920
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,600
Do you know what the red one's 
called? 

921
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,480
Red. 
Red. 

922
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,640
I respect that. 
The green one is the green one 

923
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,240
is lime. 
The yellow one is mango passion.

924
00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:36,280
They got a bit fruity on that 
one, but I just love that this 

925
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,920
one is high Maximus Blue. 
There's no, there's no mountain.

926
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,240
Do you know what the what's even
been great is they now do. 

927
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,360
They do a couple sugar free 
ones. 

928
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,920
Yeah, but you know. 
But if you're running, take go 

929
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,480
for the full hog Yes, but what 
if you're just wanting an 

930
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,480
electrolyte drink and you do 
love the taste too? 

931
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,800
You can still just grab one and 
and you have to worry about the 

932
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,880
calories so like. 
It's I'm on board Maximus. 

933
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,080
I've I've had so much like 
again, it's not and now it's 

934
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,760
almost I'm almost brand loyal. 
It's not a case of going these 

935
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,240
are more costs they. 
Also do good deals when they're 

936
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:14,600
on on tufa tufa. 
The IGA around the corner from 

937
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,040
me, yeah, like $2.00 forties. 
When they do TUFA, they're good.

938
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,720
You know, Coles like for some 
reason got booted out of Kohl's.

939
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,000
Yeah, well, they're in IGIS. 
You can still get. 

940
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,200
They're in IGIS now. 
Coles took them off their off. 

941
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,320
The ship Anyway, sorry to to sum
up though, my training continues

942
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,600
to progress nicely. 
The I'm I've had a bit of it's 

943
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,280
interesting because I've for the
first time in a long time, we 

944
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,400
talked about how Strava can make
you feel like you're not running

945
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,320
fast enough. 
At the moment, I'm having 

946
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,280
moments where Strava makes me 
feel like I'm not running long 

947
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,880
enough because other people that
I know are doing the Mylar are 

948
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,720
posting them their their weekly 
titles. 

949
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,720
And I see myself kind of falling
behind them. 

950
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,640
And I was like, Oh no, I did 60 
KS last week, he did 87. 

951
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,040
And and that's the trap, isn't 
it? 

952
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,920
So. 
I'm just but it's OK, but I'm 

953
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,600
processing it. 
I know that's how I'm feeling 

954
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,120
about it all now and again. 
I'm enjoying the running. 

955
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,120
I'm continuing to. 
I will bring. 

956
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,480
I promise I next episode I will 
bring some more golden people 

957
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,840
want to keep sending them in. 
Please don't. 

958
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,000
But I'm going to bring. 
I am reaching out to some 

959
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:19,840
verified endurance mile of ultra
athletes and I'm going to keep 

960
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,560
bringing more of their thoughts 
on on the Milo to the podcast. 

961
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,760
Yeah, Wayne, who was questioning
you about not getting a coach, 

962
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,800
also said don't underestimate 
the downhill. 

963
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,600
Say he's done the UTA 50 a few 
times. 

964
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,040
And I mean, I know this from 
doing it as well. 

965
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Yeah, obviously uphill is so 
important, but it's the downhill

966
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,680
that actually destroys your 
quads. 

967
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,000
Wayne, I've done the I've done 
the UTA 50 twice. 

968
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,280
Love that race. 
I'm well aware of the 8K section

969
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,280
you're referring to where you 
descend a long long way over the

970
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,600
8 kilometres. 
First time I did I'm like how 

971
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,720
good is the free speed and then 
you have to climb out And Yep, 

972
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:55,800
I'm aware of what it does to 
you, to your quads. 

973
00:49:56,240 --> 00:50:00,280
Wonder if the last we've we've 
talked about this 100% because I

974
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,600
still would be in the top few on
that downhill. 

975
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,840
Really. 
Yeah, I said I was #1 and then I

976
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,240
think Ben is, someone corrected 
me. 

977
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:11,360
You know, I was like, no, 
someone got that, got that 

978
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,440
segment since then. 
But I'm probably assuming the 

979
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,760
last few years, a few young 
whippets might have even flying 

980
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,400
down, even gone quicker. 
Ben Mack MC. 

981
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,560
Ben MC. 
Yes. 

982
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,480
I just want to work this one out
Liam. 

983
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,880
This one got me interested in 
this comment because he said 

984
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,360
free tip for Liam from me. 
Another Ben. 

985
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,960
Just wear the bottle, that's all
you need. 

986
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,720
The lid will get you home. 
Works every. 

987
00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:40,280
Time there's a community of 
listeners right now who are 

988
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,280
laughing because they understand
it. 

989
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,480
I get it. 
You don't bottle it. 

990
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,840
This is Bo Jones bottle it the 
organised the the sort of the. 

991
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,240
Mental health where the bottle 
lid Yes, wear the. 

992
00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:54,840
Bottle of bread, you know, it's 
the thing I raised him. 

993
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,680
We talked about the floral, the 
floral kit that I wear at Noosa,

994
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,120
the hat, that's what. 
He's I read this and thought I'm

995
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,160
a losing my mind. 
What have we talked about? 

996
00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:06,800
You lose him carrying a bottle. 
You're losing a little bit, hey?

997
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,640
Paul Rwinski also jumped in and 
said. 

998
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,120
I was one of those who yelled 
out to you. 

999
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,040
Courtney the other week was 
travelling from Adelaide for 

1000
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,200
work and always packed my 
running gear, so it was 

1001
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,880
serendipitous to see you that 
morning. 

1002
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,360
Yes. 
Running around you get you got 

1003
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,320
the shout out on the street. 
Yes, Paul, you should have said 

1004
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,800
where I. 
I assume it was in. 

1005
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,360
No, it wasn't in Adelaide. 
No, but he was travelling from 

1006
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,120
Adelaide. 
Yeah, for work. 

1007
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,200
On the Gold Coast, I assume? 
Maybe. 

1008
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,640
Yeah, anyway. 
Yeah. 

1009
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,120
Thanks, Paul. 
Let's keep running through it's.

1010
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,400
Been nice. 
It's a life when people, yeah, 

1011
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:40,800
like, no. 
Well, I was in Perth last week 

1012
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:41,240
too. 
Oh. 

1013
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,160
That's right. 
Jeez, we've got some comments 

1014
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,320
today, haven't we? 
You talk about your what? 

1015
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,760
You talk about where your 
running's got. 

1016
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,640
And you have a bit of a scam. 
Well, I have a look at where the

1017
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,480
JD HS thesis that he's written. 
This is worth sharing. 

1018
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,240
You keep Tell us a bit about 
your running week. 

1019
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,320
Yeah, and also Simon there about
the gym. 

1020
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:00,480
They heard you. 
Oh. 

1021
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,320
Sorry. 
OK, this is another one of my 

1022
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,800
agency ideas. 
Well, I technically I stole this

1023
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,920
one from Rihanna Cran. 
Yeah, but I'm also pretty sure 

1024
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,560
that Anytime Fitness or 
whichever, which gym is it? 

1025
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,280
Anytime Fitness? 
Yeah, I had this plan before. 

1026
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,480
No, I don't think they do. 
I think. 

1027
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,000
But my point it's not that idea.
So anyone listening a lot my? 

1028
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:25,040
Point is that if we can create 
this idea agency running based 

1029
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,400
idea agency now any future ideas
we can get actually. 

1030
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,840
Get the Commission. 
Yeah, apparently AI is trying to

1031
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,120
do this or ChatGPT is trying to 
do this where they're trying to 

1032
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,720
find a way to legally take a 
clip of any ideas that get 

1033
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:42,400
generated through ChatGPT that 
people go on to turn into 

1034
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,640
business. 
Really. 

1035
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,720
That's what I'd like to do here 
on the podcast, is that. 

1036
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,520
True. 
Or is that you've just seen it 

1037
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,440
on somewhere? 
I heard it somewhere. 

1038
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,120
It might be fake news, but the 
point is I'd like to do the same

1039
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,080
here on this podcast. 
Any ideas that I toss out to the

1040
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,560
ether? 
I'd like to be legally 

1041
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,320
compensated for if someone like 
Anytime Fitness, who apparently 

1042
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,560
is setting up a gym in the new 
Sydney airport. 

1043
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,520
So I wonder if that's in the the
re, some of the remodel of the 

1044
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,280
current Sydney or her or this is
the Western Sydney Airport. 

1045
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,640
It'd fit more in Kingsford Smith
than Western Sydney. 

1046
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,760
Western Sydney. 
A bit Western Sydney. 

1047
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,600
Simon Mackley picked us up on 
that one. 

1048
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,200
Thank you, Simon. 
Now JDH, I'm going to play into 

1049
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,320
this and Courtney, if at any 
point you decide it's not worth 

1050
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,520
it, you just, you give me that 
special. 

1051
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,000
I've read through this. 
This is a recap of hot rocks, 

1052
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,640
OK? 
We asked this a couple of weeks 

1053
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,800
ago because we talked a bit 
about high rocks and the 

1054
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,520
uniformity of the event. 
That's what makes it so 

1055
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,120
transferable throughout all 
these cities. 

1056
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,240
We talked about the idea of 
whether or not a city will start

1057
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:52,960
to differentiate the experience 
of their high rocks to make it 

1058
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,400
worth travelling to. 
Now JDH has obviously gone over 

1059
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,320
and done high rocks and he said 
since you're talking about 

1060
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,640
Auckland high rocks, last step I
gave him a race review of it. 

1061
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,440
He flew over from Townsville and
he used it as a holiday feud. 

1062
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,240
So this is it lines up with the 
kind of the travel. 

1063
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:08,800
Yeah, travel. 
Fitness Fitness First High Rocks

1064
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,520
Race. 
He'd been running for five years

1065
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,240
and he did about 60 KA week. 
OK, so he's got good, good 

1066
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:15,520
kilometres under his belt. 
He's been doing a bit of gym for

1067
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,240
just under a year. 
The event was organised 

1068
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:20,120
amazingly. 
Information in the lead up was 

1069
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,680
clear on plenty of communication
on what to do, how to get there 

1070
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,200
etc. 
They did a guided tour the day 

1071
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,880
before which made it very easy 
to navigate the venue, including

1072
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,400
a full run through of each 
station and how to do each 

1073
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,000
activity within the rules. 
Even though we continue to see 

1074
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,680
those videos come out of people 
apparently cheating. 

1075
00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:39,000
Event day DJ playing, great 
vibes. 

1076
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,640
Plenty of stuff to help guide 
and direct. 

1077
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,240
No lines to check in. 
Huge merch area, plenty of 

1078
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:45,280
options for coffee, food 
etcetera beforehand. 

1079
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,680
Toilets everywhere. 
Dedicated warm up zone. 

1080
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,720
Waves were 10 minutes apart and 
well coordinated. 

1081
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,000
The course was a 1K outside 
loop. 

1082
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,800
That's what you thought they did
Courtney. 

1083
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,680
He loved it, getting to run and 
see everything going on. 

1084
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,640
Coming from far North 
Queensland, the New Zealand 

1085
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,360
summer running was cool for him.
Some runners were struggling 

1086
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,000
with the heat and as this is a 
running podcast he won't go on 

1087
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,880
about the stations, the gym 
stuff, but they're especially 

1088
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,200
tough, especially ending with 
100 war balls. 

1089
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,160
That does sound horrible. 
Super supportive crew throughout

1090
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,520
the stations and at the finish 
line. 

1091
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,520
Photographers everywhere 
throughout the station. 

1092
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,520
Needless to say, I think he's 
impressed. 

1093
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,320
Queenstown and now he's he had a
great time and now he's enjoying

1094
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,000
his holiday. 
Yep, sounds like they do it. 

1095
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,480
Well, it sounds like they do. 
They do. 

1096
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,840
Really, Really. 
I've only been to 1 and it was 

1097
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,560
Brisbane. 
And yeah, I mean, remember we 

1098
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,760
talked about the German 
efficiency of how they even 

1099
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,800
cross the track. 
I mean, they run it like 

1100
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,960
clockwork. 
We, we, we, we joke about high 

1101
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,440
rocks. 
But like, at the moment, you 

1102
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,640
know, they run a great event and
that's why they're getting, 

1103
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,000
that's why they're getting 
people well done. 

1104
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,920
Thank you for the review, JDA. 
Yep, now you're running. 

1105
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,880
Yep, got 1. 
Where are you at? 

1106
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,400
Ticking along, I think went 
through up to about 6. 

1107
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,520
I think I went about around 60 K
last week and I had to travel a 

1108
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,320
few days as well. 
Still doing the gym, yeah, 

1109
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,920
couple of swims, all that's 
going on, but I'll, I'll focus 

1110
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,600
on. 
You're about due to give us a 

1111
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,240
session to run, actually. 
Yeah, well, here's my session. 

1112
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:12,640
Now, not everyone's going to 
agree with this session. 

1113
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,760
It's time for Courtney's 
session. 

1114
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,240
I'm really got to get some more 
reproductions going. 

1115
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,000
Really. 
Yeah, Come. 

1116
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:21,800
On. 
But it's not really a session. 

1117
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,000
We'll talk us through it and 
we'll and I'll and I'll figure 

1118
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,120
out if it's a session instead. 
Of doing my long run. 

1119
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,600
I've kind of fallen into the 
habit the last few weeks of 

1120
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,080
going out to the forest and 
instead of just running around 

1121
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,280
without a purpose and just doing
a long run generally, which I'd 

1122
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,480
normally do through the singles,
I've done the 17 K loop we've 

1123
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,600
talked about which is quite 
hilly, so it's got about 600 

1124
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,360
metres of elevation on it. 
So it's a tough little 17 K give

1125
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,560
or take loop. 
You make it look a lot easier 

1126
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,360
than it is. 
I've I've seen your time. 

1127
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,680
I was, I'm watching the runs 
that you've been doing these, 

1128
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,720
these effort, hill stride things
you've been doing on this place.

1129
00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:59,640
Yeah, So what I've, what I've 
gone out to do, I'm like, I'm 

1130
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,800
not running anywhere near the 
volume I used to right now. 

1131
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,600
So I want to make every run kind
of count a little bit. 

1132
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,000
OK, So with this 17 K loop over 
the last few weeks, what I've 

1133
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,040
done is I've warned my heart 
rate monitor and I've gone I'm 

1134
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,600
not going to run it fart like 
like best pace up the hill, but 

1135
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,360
I am going to treat it a little 
bit more like a fart like 17 K 

1136
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,400
where up the hills I run, but 
making sure I keep my heart rate

1137
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,120
in 140 to 150 zone for me. 
So I don't want I don't allow it

1138
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,000
to go over 150 at all. 
So that just really moderates 

1139
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,200
what I'm doing uphill, though, 
it's probably, you know, that 

1140
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:38,160
wanky zone two term for me. 
That's probably in that area, 

1141
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,320
give or take, but it's quite 
comfortably running. 

1142
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,600
Still. 
It's not doing anything to her. 

1143
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,920
But then when I, I go over the 
hill, when I'm on the downhill 

1144
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,160
or on some of the flatter 
sections, I'm making sure I 

1145
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,840
still maintain my pace and then 
don't let my heart rate drop 

1146
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:55,040
below 130. 
OK, so I'm doing a very, I'm so 

1147
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,720
where I'm going with this is I'm
treating all my runs at the 

1148
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,000
moment. 
I'm actually focused with a 

1149
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,640
heart rate monitor on hitting 
specific things. 

1150
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,000
I'm not going out there. 
I'm trying to do with the 

1151
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,880
limited running compared to 
usual that I'm doing. 

1152
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:13,120
I'm trying to make the most. 
Out of it, let's let me try and 

1153
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,160
convert this into some sort of a
session for people. 

1154
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,840
How aware of your heart rate 
zones are you? 

1155
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,560
I mean, right now you 
personally. 

1156
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,800
I've got a massive history with 
heart rate, OK? 

1157
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,120
So you know what zone 2 is? 
You know what? 

1158
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,160
140 to 100. 
And 50 and I also know it's. 

1159
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,760
A training zone for you? 
With my fitness at the moment, 

1160
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,000
OK, I won't. 
So normally if I was doing that 

1161
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,440
and I was super fit, maybe 
running around there two years 

1162
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,840
ago, I'd probably allow my heart
rate to go to 153 and be 

1163
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,080
comfortable. 
I'm not over producing lactate 

1164
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,760
or anything at that. 
Whereas now, because I know I'm 

1165
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,360
not as fit, I'm not as much 
running. 

1166
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,640
I'm conservative on that and 
want to hold my heart right 

1167
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,280
back, you know? 
So you're trying to stay out of 

1168
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,840
your lactate zone? 
Pretty much trying to not 

1169
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,760
produce lactate, but just like 
laying those, you know, building

1170
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,240
blocks of the aerobic system. 
Yeah. 

1171
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,000
How and so? 
Is it? 

1172
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,320
Is it the 17 K distance? 
Just because that's the distance

1173
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,680
of the. 
Loop Yeah, yeah, that's that's 

1174
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,240
purely purely OK There's no 
there's no hard science behind 

1175
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,720
this. 
It's just that 17 K is get you 

1176
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,040
around the loop. 
Yep, it's a loop. 

1177
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:24,160
We've I've done see, this is a 
big one too, is like, I love 

1178
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,920
mixing up my running to this 
sense of like running and well, 

1179
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,880
if I said to you, yeah, I'm 
running a different location, do

1180
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,280
different trails and whatever 
else. 

1181
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,480
But when you're also then trying
to get into, it's also really 

1182
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,000
good to know courses and be able
to look back at you know how. 

1183
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,400
We talk about this benchmarking.
Benchmarking yourself, and I'm 

1184
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,440
not. 
I think you can get really 

1185
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,720
caught up if you're trying to 
benchmark and do a PB all the 

1186
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,480
time 'cause then it starts to 
make you want to push, push, 

1187
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,120
push. 
But what I'm doing, I'm not 

1188
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,360
trying to run as fast as I can. 
I'm not trying to do the best 

1189
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:55,960
run I can. 
I'm just actually holding a 

1190
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,400
heart rate and then I can 
actually look over time of where

1191
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,680
that is and how each week that's
progressing. 

1192
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:07,080
So a win in that could be 
actually I run no, no quicker 

1193
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,360
next week on that site. 
If I went out this week and did 

1194
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,160
it, I don't run any quicker. 
But if my heart rate is 3 beats 

1195
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,960
lower across all those sections,
then that's a. 

1196
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,280
Win. 
It's in effect the PB. 

1197
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:25,280
Just on that, how I love that 
idea of benchmarking. 

1198
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,480
What you just we've talked about
benchmarking before, but we just

1199
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,160
said then about benchmarking 
doesn't always mean running a 

1200
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,960
PB. 
No, there's a difference between

1201
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,120
it. 
Depends what the purpose. 

1202
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:42,080
Seeing where you're at against 
Or can I go and set a new PB 

1203
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,200
over this 5K park run which it 
is for a lot of? 

1204
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,240
People So again, this isn't like
I'm not optimally like this is 

1205
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,160
the optimal running week, but 
I'm looking at OK, T100 is 

1206
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,320
coming up yeah, getting trying 
to get myself reasonably 

1207
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,560
competitive quickly and with the
the amount of running I want to 

1208
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,360
be able to do or will only do 
because I'm still limiting my 

1209
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,680
running to a degree yeah, going 
to really make the most out of 

1210
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,000
it. 
So that's turned into my long 

1211
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,760
run. 
My long run's turned into a very

1212
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,720
specific session. 
Is there any heart rate creep in

1213
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,320
there bracket sort of, you know,
zone creep where you, you know, 

1214
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,160
we talk about. 
Not in that one. 

1215
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,520
I mean the other day I had 
definitely had heart rate creep 

1216
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,680
when I said I did that 8K tempo 
back. 

1217
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,760
Yep, IA 100% got it there. 
But no, this is well within my 

1218
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,640
zones where I can manage, you 
know? 

1219
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,120
For context, and I think there's
a session in there for people. 

1220
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,240
If you can work out if you can 
find a, a loop wherever you are 

1221
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:38,680
that engages some hills and you 
can access a whether you're just

1222
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,960
working off your wrist watch 
where you watch heart rate 

1223
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,160
monitor sensor or you've got a 
chest strap. 

1224
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,000
I think you can probably engage 
the idea of a session that 

1225
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,800
involves pushing on, maintaining
a heart rate zone, uphills and 

1226
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,960
downhills, and using that as a 
training session so you're not 

1227
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,600
guessed at the end and. 
The other thing I'm doing at the

1228
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,600
moment that you wouldn't notice 
if you're watching along on 

1229
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,800
Strava is I'm doing strikes. 
Yes, I have. 

1230
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,920
Yeah, and it's something I 
haven't done in years and years 

1231
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,840
and years. 
And how am I running them, How 

1232
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,480
good they are? 
I don't know, but it does seem 

1233
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,280
to. 
It feels like my hips are 

1234
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,680
opening up a little bit after 
the kind of easier runs when 

1235
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,880
I've been doing them. 
Definitely not running anywhere 

1236
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,160
near. 
I'm not getting the speed back 

1237
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,720
as quick as what I would have 
previously. 

1238
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:30,600
But I think the next, the next 
kind of evolution of something 

1239
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,160
that I would probably throw in 
then is, and I'm not doing any 

1240
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,240
of this is drills. 
Sound like actual running drills

1241
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,320
within that session or within 
the strides just to mix it up 

1242
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,720
and get a little bit. 
Not for the purpose of trying to

1243
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,480
go any quicker, but just to 
start to get patterning better. 

1244
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,760
OK, so things are looking up 
running on my hips. 

1245
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,640
Yeah. 
Quickly, I love that. 

1246
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,800
I love that this is I mean, 
everybody would joke a little 

1247
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,440
bit, but it's great to have both
of us injury free for an 

1248
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,520
extended period of time. 
Touchwood, I couple more things 

1249
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,320
I want to share with you quickly
how we go over time. 

1250
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,440
This is a bit of a little bit of
a long one, but I've got two 

1251
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,080
things I want to share with you.
Can I give the quickly give a 

1252
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,040
shout out to George, who's the 
producer of our radio show on 

1253
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:14,960
Triple M Gold who came to me the
other week and you know how much

1254
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,000
I love to come across as an 
expert. 

1255
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,880
George has been running. 
He runs about three times a week

1256
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,440
and he came to me and he said, 
Liam, I want to improve my 

1257
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,040
running. 
I said great. 

1258
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,320
I said, what do you do? 
He's like, I usually run about 3

1259
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,000
* a week. 
I could do about 10 KS. 

1260
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,000
I'm like great. 
And what do they look like? 

1261
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,520
He's like I just run what, mate?
Fantastic. 

1262
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,880
Really easy ways to improve your
running If you just change a 

1263
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,320
couple of these and you go all 
the way back to what you and I 

1264
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,520
talked about early stages of 
this podcast of in making one of

1265
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,480
those runs, a tempo run and 
making one of those runs, an 

1266
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,480
interval run. 
And then suddenly you're awake 

1267
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,440
with no extra running sessions. 
You're running the same 

1268
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,960
distance, but there's more 
intention behind what you're 

1269
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,640
running. 
And I walked him through a mono 

1270
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,480
fart leg, right? 
I, I showed it to him. 

1271
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,280
I helped him put punch into his 
watch, walked him through it. 

1272
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,360
He came to me. 
He came to. 

1273
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,360
Me the last week and he's like, 
hey, those fart leg sessions? 

1274
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,520
I said yeah, yes. 
Are you meant to be gassed at 

1275
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,520
the end of it? 
And I said, yeah, you are. 

1276
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,760
He's like, yeah, I was, I'm 
like, good. 

1277
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,160
That means you've. 
He goes, yeah, like really 

1278
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,120
gassed. 
I'm like, that's great, yeah. 

1279
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,880
And I'm like, now you adjust 
your pace, but if you could get 

1280
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,440
through it, great. 
If you couldn't slow down a bit,

1281
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,000
now he's like, I don't think I 
need to slow down a bit. 

1282
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,600
He's like but I just wanted to 
check 'cause. 

1283
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,320
Something's better than nothing.
That's that's as tired as I've 

1284
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:38,920
been for a long time after a 
run. 

1285
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,120
I'm like, that's good. 
You're showing your body how to,

1286
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,600
you know, change stuff. 
The other one I wanted to share 

1287
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,080
with you is a post that my 
brother sent through. 

1288
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,880
Now I don't have the audio. 
I didn't get it to you. 

1289
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,200
I apologise. 
I'm going to play this through 

1290
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,640
my phone into the microphone. 
OK, this is about and I reckon 

1291
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,240
you'll be the right generation 
to appreciate. 

1292
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,320
This OK? 
No. 

1293
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,960
No, no, We talked a little bit 
about generational stuff on this

1294
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,120
project. 
I think you'll be the right 

1295
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,200
generation. 
It's about what watches are for 

1296
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,720
runners these days. 
OK, Cheers are. 

1297
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,960
Basically expensive time ago. 
You ready? 

1298
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,240
One just said that fitness 
watches are basically expensive 

1299
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,440
tamagotchis, but the stupid 
animal you're trying to keep 

1300
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,440
alive is yourself. 
And now I can't hear that. 

1301
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,120
No one just said. 
That someone just you're. 

1302
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,360
Gonna have to translate. 
It someone just said that 

1303
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,560
fitness watches are just like 
tamagotchis. 

1304
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,520
Yeah, yeah, except that the 
stupid animal you try to keep 

1305
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,640
alive is yourself. 
How? 

1306
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,880
Perfect. 
Is that pretty much? 

1307
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,720
Apple Watches, garments, poles, 
whatever you're using, all the 

1308
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,360
data that's on there, the sleep 
information, your heart rate, 

1309
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,760
all that sort of stuff. 
It is a Tamagotchi, except you 

1310
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:44,560
are the pet. 
You're. 

1311
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,840
Going to have to give me so 
maybe I'll miss this in 

1312
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,160
generations. 
Don't you remember? 

1313
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,320
What Tamagotchis were? 
No. 

1314
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:52,560
Oh, what? 
I've heard the name. 

1315
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,360
You know what? 
When you said Tamagotchi, what I

1316
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,320
was thinking, what's that new 
furry little animal that 

1317
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:58,640
everyone lines up for at the 
moment? 

1318
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,640
Oh the for Lulu, Lulu for Boo 
Boo the Boo Foo. 

1319
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,600
Yeah, that thing. 
The the, what are they called? 

1320
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,280
Yeah, too boos, something like 
that. 

1321
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,360
That was that was the brand that
all the cool kids wore back in 

1322
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:10,880
the day. 
What are they called? 

1323
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:11,920
Lafoofoo. 
Lubu. 

1324
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,240
Lubu. 
Lubu. 

1325
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:14,640
Lubu. 
I don't know, Lubu. 

1326
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:16,240
You've got young kids. 
Lubu. 

1327
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,640
Yeah. 
That's what I was thinking. 

1328
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,520
No, the tamagotchis were the 
little eggs that had like a 

1329
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,880
computer game and it was like a 
pet and you have to basically 

1330
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,000
feed it and clean up its poop 
and play with it to keep it 

1331
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,040
interested. 
And it would. 

1332
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,840
Now you're looking at it I've 
seen just recently. 

1333
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,960
It must be a nostalgic thing. 
I've seen a few kids with these.

1334
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,120
Right. 
I've never seen that in my life.

1335
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:40,680
You've never. 
What do you mean? 

1336
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,800
Until recently, when I've seen a
few kids get it for Christmas 

1337
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,840
presents at. 
What year were you born? 

1338
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,400
79. 
Oh no, you would have been too 

1339
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,960
often conscious. 
They came out in 96. 

1340
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,800
I was leaving high school. 
Yeah, you off to you off to 

1341
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,880
compete as a professional. 
Try actually. 

1342
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,640
If I was, if I had that, if I 
was walking around with that, I 

1343
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,800
can tell you what would happen 
in 1996, mate. 

1344
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,360
I wouldn't. 
Oh my nose wouldn't be as. 

1345
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:07,920
Strange. 
No? 

1346
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,000
Exactly right. 
Yeah, it would have been 

1347
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,160
embarrassing. 
Righto. 

1348
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,240
Good EP. 
Good EP today. 

1349
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,600
Fun EP. 
We are on the countdown. 

1350
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,760
Winter Olympics are here if 
you're watching. 

1351
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:25,560
Enjoy, I am inside 100 days now 
until my mylar so I'm going to 

1352
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,000
come. 
Quick, someone asked us because 

1353
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,040
we, you know, we do these little
mini series leading up to events

1354
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,560
and they're like, oh, you know, 
they would love to hear one from

1355
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,800
the Mylar, but we're also 
focused on T100. 

1356
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,840
We're focusing in on T100 and we
might look into something else 

1357
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,120
after the the T100 it. 
Is also. 

1358
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,840
I'm just thinking. 
It's got me thinking. 

1359
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,240
Anyway, let's leave it there. 
Got you thinking. 

1360
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,520
It's got me thinking. 
I love it when Courtney thinks. 

1361
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:50,800
It's got me thinking. 
All right. 

1362
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,400
And if anyone would like to help
me come up with a name for my 

1363
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,280
idea agency and help me find a 
way to make money, I'll give you

1364
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:58,560
a hot tip. 
Oh, what? 

1365
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,920
If you want an ideas agency, 
you've got to stop saying them 

1366
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,080
on the podcast. 
But I don't want it because 

1367
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,520
that's when the best ideas come 
out. 

1368
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,000
All right, we'll see you next 
week. 

1369
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:07,720
See you next week.