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In the beginning, episode 63, a 
day where we will be celebrating

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Courtney. 
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the fact that the Gold Coast 
Marathon sold out in 24 hours. 

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Yeah, it we, we, I mean, we said
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We did it. 
That would if you, if you're, if

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you signed up with the marathon,
you haven't listened to the 

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midweek episode with Benita 
Willis, go back, check it out. 

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Unbelievable. 
Worth listening to. 

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We'll get that a bit later. 
On Well, no, yeah, let's get on 

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to that now. 
So if you haven't listened 

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Wednesday, it's like, what do I 
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I've ended now what do I do? 
And Benita gives us all the 

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answers. 
So Benita was back. 

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There's some people who are 
really excited to hear the 

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because we didn't tell anyone. 
But it was a little bit of a 

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surprise. 
Benita Willis, Lace Up Running 

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is her coaching business. 
She's back, she's on board. 

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We're going to be doing some 
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the race. 
My wife listened to that 

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episode, by the way, because she
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which is so exciting, and she 
started spouting off all this 

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stuff about. 
Oh, she's now you're. 

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Preparing for the Goal Goers 
marathon. 

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They're now the resident expert 
and I'm just. 

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Staring at her saying I I do you
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me. 
What I've been telling you this 

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was she's. 
And she said yeah, but when you 

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tell me something and then 
Benita Willis tells me the same 

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thing I'm. 
Gonna. 

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I'm gonna. 
Listen, I put my hands up. 

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That was fun, yeah. 
Hey, let's let's start with some

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fun off the top. 
This one was originally shared 

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by Aaron, who is in the hand or 
not another dad bod, but plenty 

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of people have shared this one 
with us and it's called it's a 

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social site that's just been 
launched and it's flying called 

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the Marathon Integrity Unit. 
So this is so. 

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Good. 
Official unofficial time is the 

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handle and you want to read the 
mission statement for me. 

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Again, so that handle. 
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unofficial time. 
The mission statement Our 

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mission at the official marathon
time integrity unit is to 

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restore truth, accuracy and 
transparency to distance 

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running. 
We exist to protect the 

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integrity of the sport by 
ensuring that the times athletes

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share publicly reflect the times
that they actually ran. 

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Their purpose is to uphold the 
standard that chip time is the 

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only time to challenge the 
growing trend of GPS based 

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fabrication, selective Strava 
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To educate the community on 
accuracy, honesty and respect 

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for the sport. 
To protect new, new and emerging

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runners from being misled by 
influences or athletes 

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presenting fraudulent 
performances, and to celebrate 

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genuine achievement. 
Because the truth is always more

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admirable than the light I love 
we've had. 

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Plenty of these questions love. 
I take my chip time, do I not? 

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Well, here's a sight just 
purposely driven to. 

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Corp this is they have made a 
commitment. 

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Now it's easy to set up this 
site, right? 

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It's easy to come out and say 
these things and declare these 

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values. 
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commitment and they say their 
commitment is that they will 

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continue to review, investigate 
and report discrepancies without

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bias, personal targeting or 
exceptions. 

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We do not shame, we simply 
reveal the truth. 

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We do not speculate, we analyse 
evidence. 

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We do not protect egos, we 
protect the sport. 

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I love this. 
Like this could be my favourite.

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It's come late in the peace, 
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late or less than a month left 
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But it could be my favourite 
Instagram account of 2025 for a 

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year. 
I can. 

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See, like I said, like Andy 
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Davies from Red Bull's in there 
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So they've they've made it. 
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The the final go and check this 
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There's a great final slide up 
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greater than Strava time, which 
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Always has been, always will. 
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looking at this story from today
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is, but there's a fella on there
that has said he's obviously 

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posted his result in maybe it 
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They've called him out, said, 
hey, we've checked the official 

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results and it's not, it's not 
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So 399 to 3782 minute 
discrepancy, but but they go one

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step further. 
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They've made the comment and 
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his account. 
Has this been happening to 

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others? 
You know, they're not, they're 

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not stopping at one step here. 
No, this is deep investigation. 

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I think, I think you can expect 
to see plenty of people blocking

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this site, but what I would this
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seriousness to it, but there's a
level of humour to it as well. 

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Yeah, I think this is going to 
be a really fun follow along. 

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At the same time, I would say to
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with what they're saying as far 
as you know, running, I don't 

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think it needs protection. 
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laugh about the influence and 
nature of that running has 

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become. 
And then we have had it thrown 

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back in our faces by some people
saying you guys are running 

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influencers and we may be, but 
not in the sense of the the type

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of content that gets put out 
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influencers yet. 
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the way The but I love the idea 
that this account has been made 

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to protect the authenticity of 
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marathon times and distances run
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I think if you follow this for 
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So we're not just picking on 
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Like as a a long time 
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we started chatting, all this 
running triathlon is notoriously

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short on their run courses, 
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But it never stops a triathlete 
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chip time, right? 
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been a triathlon that he's 
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Well, I can't wait for for 
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listeners to jump on the 
anonymous tip form line of this 

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account and dub one of us in for
something that we might have run

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in. 
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Sure. 
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Hey, but back to Gold Coast 
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Amazing that it like sold out so
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It's sold out. 
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put it in here, but I saw a 
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little bit of good bit of 
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But the Hobart Marathon posted 
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of people have missed out on the
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you smart, we've got the Hobart 
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And look, that's all a part of 
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If you if you have missed out on
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half try. 
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episode, jump on the white list.
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opportunities to enter over the 
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Because one thing, as sure as 
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there will be injuries, there 
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Don't don't get involved with. 
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their entry on Facebook, just 
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You are not going to be able to 
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I would discourage people. 
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Oh, there's yeah, yeah. 
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concerts, right? 
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scammers will try and take your 
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this race. 
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Just don't. 
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I would strongly discourage 
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dodgy way into the race. 
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eye out on set up your alerts 
for the Gold Coast ASICS, Gold 

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Coast Marathon accounts and 
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of that. 
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marathon, if you haven't already
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I'm glad. 
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of that one. 
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my wife are in. 
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both running. 
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Like it's I've got a host of 
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coming up to be a part of it. 
Someone actually an apologies I 

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don't have the details to hand, 
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with running where these entries
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there are always not loopholes 
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My understanding, and I might 
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had you entered the Toowoomba 
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is run by the Which? 
Is also run by. 

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By EMC, you actually got 
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Preference for the Gold Coast 
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Now, I'm not encouraging people 
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the cost to run that, you know, 
if you're prepared to just take 

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the hit. 
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No, Jake. 
Hey, hey, please call out Liam. 

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And as an influencer, everyone 
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No, no, no. 
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you know there's always work 
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So if you go run the Toowoomba 
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Yes, go and run the Toowoomba 
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Support the Toowoomba event. 
Support the Toowoomba event. 

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Yeah, and then you can get early
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event. 
Yeah, anyway, T100. 

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Yes. 
So a bit of an update because we

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are getting called out hard here
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In fact, we didn't have a team. 
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my understanding and we're going
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back a little bit. 
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enter just the team will be in 
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just the name in the beginning 
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that's what I've put in. 
You don't have to. 

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There's no selections down menu 
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and putting that in. 
We're still looking. 

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We're still. 
Looking to it, but if you're 

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really keen go back in the 
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there might be. 
I'm pretty sure you can edit 

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your details. 
Brett, I think is someone who's 

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Brett Donaghy, big fan of the 
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board early days. 
I know he's entered and he was 

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trying to find a team name. 
So Brett, go back in, see if you

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can add in the beginning podcast
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entry. 
Let us know how you go so we can

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pass that on. 
Again, reminder for everybody, 

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if you miss Benita during the 
week, that T100, that 10K event 

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in March is the perfect bridging
event, right? 

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We Benitas talked about you've 
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Coast Marathon. 
You obviously can't go into 

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marathon mode now. 
You need to plan out this next 

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30 weeks. 
You shouldn't be approaching 

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your marathon block until April,
which means you need to find 

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events that are going to bridge 
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This March T110K race is a 
again, this is not my thoughts. 

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These are the thoughts of the 
greatest distance run of this 

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country ever produced. 
Benita Willis that that 10K 

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event in March is a perfect one 
to build towards. 

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Then you've got other events. 
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But you can include in your 
training. 100% and that's what, 

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well, that's what she suggested 
for me straight off the bat. 

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Straight off the bat, I ended. 
So you're, yeah, you're in T100.

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I'm in. 
I'm in the 10K for T. 100, Yeah.

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What? 
OK, You didn't you weren't 

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prepared to say it about your 
marathon time. 

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Yeah, I don't. 
Oh, you tell me when you're 

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ready to say that. 
OK, 10K time T100. 

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Same same answer. 
Lee no, come on, you can't go 

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predicting time. 
What would you like? 

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What time would make you happy? 
What? 

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What? 
10K time in March next year at 

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the T100, The first time I. 
Understand the answer is 

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nothing's gonna make me happy, 
Lee, because that's so true. 

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I I'm not gonna run. 
That's so true. 

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The last time I ran the actually
the only time. 

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Here's a story. 
The only time I've run the 10 

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Marathon event. 

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Now I have no idea what year it 
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OK, I came second. 
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the Australian 10K record holder
Ben Saint Lawrence. 

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He goes, OK, yeah. 
And I believe I might have run 

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3030 minutes and 10 seconds. 
And I think he's just cracked 

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the 30. 
This is pretty super shoes, boy.

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I'll put my, I'll put my 
asterisk on there. 

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But yeah, so it was Benny Saint 
Lawrence. 

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I remember. 
Well, that's the only reason I 

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remember the run is because I 
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went on to break the Australian 
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That is, I believe could be the 
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run. 
So to answer your question, what

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would I be happy with? 
2008 Gold Coast This is about 

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when it was the Gold Coast 
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You ran the Southern Cross 
University 10K run still the 

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southern. 
They've been on that for. 

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Yeah, good on your Southern 
Cross University. 

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It was still the Southern Cross 
University 10 kilometre run 

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males 25 to 29 category. 
You ran a 3014. 

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That's 4 seconds off a light 
get. 

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Get the integrity unit out here 
please. 

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It actually says you came third 
overall. 

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I didn't get third. 
You get you came second in your 

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category, so obviously racing 
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actually says you came third 
overall. 

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I reckon there was a wonky time 
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called it wrong. 
Do you know what else you did 

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that that you came, you came 
seventh in the city to surf that

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year. 
You're right, you came fifth in 

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the bridge to Brisbane. 
Sorry, no, I'm getting the years

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confused. 
I've gone back to that was 2007.

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Yeah. 
Anyway, results. 

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Who you stopped living in the 
past, Liam. 

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You asked me. 
You asked me. 

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I. 
Love nothing more than being 

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able to Google your name and 
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to run back in the day. 
As a triathlete, 'cause that was

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my day job. 
That's what I mean. 

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You came. 
Oh yeah. 

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I ran all right for a for a 
triathlete. 

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I'm real good look. 
You asked my time, what would 

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make you happy? 
Every PB would make me happy. 

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But. 
What's your PB? 

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Probably that's 3018. 
Well I'm just saying I haven't 

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run a 10K that's the last 10 Ki 
can recall running. 

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So you wanna break 30 minutes? 
You wanna break 30 minutes? 

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Let's just say it You wanna 
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I would love to break 30 minutes
if your time can. 

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I break 30 minutes if your time 
started. 

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With a 2 would you have a smile 
on your face of. 

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Course you would, OK, but I'm 
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because. 
So I I. 

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Because I haven't run a 10K 
since 2008. 

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I don't think there's anything 
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This is where you and I differ 
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You are very much like, let's 
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dry on something before we even 
announce it. 

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My my like as soon as I have a 
thought I think we should it's 

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OK, but. 
But we will be at the the the 

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more obvious is we're at the 
team 100. 

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We'll be running in the 
beginning podcast. 

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Yep, is the team name if you 
want to join. 

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The goal is by then we might 
have something for everyone to 

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have a run in if you want to 
join in. 

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Oh yeah, yeah, we're trying to 
find some pieces. 

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We're not going to give way too 
much on that A. 

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Uniform, put it that way. 
Yep. 

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So it'll be exciting and yeah, 
we're looking for that. 

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Getting on to this is I've had I
just, you just saw me. 

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I'm on the Red Bulls. 
You are on the Red Bulls, yeah. 

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At in early morning Red Bulls at
the moment with you on a Friday,

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Liam, because it's been a hell 
of a, a hell of a week. 

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But I was sitting in Brisbane, 
you know, we're on daylight 

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savings time up here in Greece. 
I was on Sydney time yesterday 

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and I had to get it up to 
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So I was sitting in a cafe in 
the middle of some industrial 

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area, I don't know where, 5:30 
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The beautiful the. 
Beautiful, one of my favourite 

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times of the year. 
I got spammed with the Spotify 

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yearly wrap up and also the 
Strava yearly wrap up I. 

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Haven't checked my Strava so I. 
Think I've been given my Strava 

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early as a. 
Because you're a. 

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Pro, right, yeah, I think 
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early access, which feel free to
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getting a special, special 
thing. 

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Yeah, see, look I've had. 
You've been given a year in 

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sport already. 
I reckon what they want to do is

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ask to get out there on the 
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And then I don't like that. 
I actually believe everyone 

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should just get it at the one 
side. 

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Well, I can. 
You should wait before you share

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yours. 
Let's do when? 

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Wait till I have mine. 
You don't have to. 

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You don't have to tell me to 
wait. 

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I won't share mine. 
Now you will share yours. 

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Of course you will I. 
Won't share mine? 

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Why not? 
Let's go, go and if you want 

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look at what I do go and follow 
my Internet going. 

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What is it this? 
No, we need to talk about us. 

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Us have a rap. 
We can talk about it on the 

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podcast. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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I mean, sharing it. 
I'm not gonna post. 

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It, I mean, I know you, I mean, 
you need to don't talk about it 

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yet. 
Yeah, talk about when I've got 

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mine. 
We have, but what we are News 

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Face, everyone got their 
Spotify, their personal one. 

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We're going to talk about our 
ages, what music we listen to 

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after this. 
But first I want to get into 

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because we get a back end one 
from the podcast as well. 

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The one thing that stood out 
most is we got our listener 

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base. 
So our great listener base that 

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are out there each week with us.
I know your music choices. 

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This is fair. 
I now I don't know this Courtney

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has seen this data. 
I have not can I say before you 

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get into this big shout out to 
Benny to Adsi to I've had so 

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many people message me to say 
that in the beginning was their 

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number one podcast the. 
Oh, and through all the 

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Instagram messages that come 
through and sharing our podcast,

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yeah, it's amazing. 
So thank you. 

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But here's where it's back on 
our you, you the everyone. 

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We're we're talking. 
As you run along this morning. 

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As you run along. 
OK, from our listener base, what

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would be at the number one song 
or even let you have the artist 

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Liam, because songs are quite 
hard. 

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To choose 20/20/20. 25 From our 
listener base, what is the 

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number one song an artist they 
listen to? 

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I'm going to say the number one 
song in 2025 for our audience 

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was Jelly Rolls Liar. 
Jelly Roll didn't make the top 

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five. 
I just thought maybe because we 

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had, we had. 
We have got we've got some 

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country. 
So Zach. 

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Zach. 
Bryan, Zach Bryan. 

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Number two, yeah. 
Luke Combs Luke Combs #4 Morgan 

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Mullen, You're. 
You're you're are. 

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You amused? 
It's probably. 

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Like a working radio. 
You so they were number 2-3 and 

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four. 
OK, now number one and five are 

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the most outlying. 
Can I? 

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All right, let me let me throw 
some at you. 

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I'm gonna just throw a couple of
artists at you. 

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Olivia Dean by any chance? 
Factor. 

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I don't know who that is. 
OK. 

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She's not. 
She's had a very big year. 

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Did Oasis crack it? 
No. 

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With the Oasis resurgence? 
No. 

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Give me a clue. 
I'll go to number 5 for you. 

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I'll let everyone. 
I'm gonna leave her at hand, 

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Fred again. 
Oh yeah, OK. 

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I mean I maybe I added, not that
I'd probably. 

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Be a big fan of Fred again. 
Yeah, but I'm thinking I'm 

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probably not on our audience. 
List is that a tad yeah, but OK 

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good good running is the is the 
music number one artist is it is

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it modern is it old school is it
it's. 

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Pretty much one of the. 
I'm going to give you a hint. 

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OK, let's Taylor Swift. 
It was Swifty, yeah. 

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Can you believe? 
Do you know how I picked that? 

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The way you rolled your eyes? 
Can you? 

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Believe. 
Who is massive? 

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Who is listening? 
She's massive mate, please. 

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She's massive. 
Who? 

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I mean, I'll tell you what, do 
you know the good? 

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Obviously we've got a decent 
female audience or you and we, I

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think guys out there running to.
Taylor Parents. 

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Parents last. 
Year you reckon that they're on 

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the. 
Last year, last year, I was my 

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Spotify rapped. 
I was a top 2% listener globally

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of Taylor Swift because my 
daughter every day on the way to

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school made me listen to Taylor 
Swift. 

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So I, I was like in the in the 
top 2% of Taylor Swift listeners

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on Spotify globally. 
So much so that if you listen 

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to, if you make that list, you 
get a special message that 

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they've recorded. 
I had a special, special message

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from Taylor Swift because every 
day on the way to school, Quinn 

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was making me listen to Taylor 
Swift songs. 

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Maybe that's maybe that's. 
I would say that, yeah, great. 

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I hope we've got a lot of young 
women listening to the podcast 

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who love their running and have 
been got involved with the 

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running boom and they're 
listening to us and then they're

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listening to Taylor Swift. 
I I also think we'd probably 

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have a lot of parents with young
kids who are using their 

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Spotify. 
Account so then and then OK so I

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nearly spat my coffee out by the
way at this cafe when I read it 

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was early and I was like what 
some. 

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Of the early stuff, this most 
recent album, Not great running 

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music. 
Some of the early stuff's good 

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running music. 
Courtney is shaking his head. 

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Sorry. 
It is. 

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Sorry, Taylor's got some. 
Do you know? 

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Actually, it's funny you mention
this because we'll go back to 

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the Rapt in a second. 
I was running yesterday and I'm 

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going to, I'm gonna do AI wanna.
I came up with an idea for a 

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reel that I'm gonna make. 
Yeah. 

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Which is me running to all the 
songs that I never get to play 

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on the radio station that I work
in, 'cause I was listening. 

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Tell us. 
About that 'cause you said, I 

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remember after we interviewed 
Jelly Roll, you said, I don't 

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care what, what the producer 
says, I'm playing Jelly Roll. 

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Did you? 
Yeah, get to play with. 

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Yeah, I played Jelly Roll. 
I think I played Jelly Roll Liar

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on the radio. 
So and they were cool with that.

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To pull back the curtain a 
little bit, the gone are the 

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days where of call up and 
request a song. 

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It's just not how it works 
anymore. 

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For the most part. 
There is a computer algorithm 

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that picks the songs. 
All the songs get tested on the 

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audience like like hey, what do 
you think of this song? 

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What do you think? 
So there is testing done and 

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there's a skill and there's an 
art form to it, but rarely do 

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the people on air actually get 
to dictate the songs that are 

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being played. 
So there's a like yesterday. 

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What was I was running to the 
Verves lucky man yesterday, 

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which is a cracking Zama lucky 
and you'd. 

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Never be able to play and. 
Well, we might, but we just 

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don't play it. 
There's just a lot of music I 

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don't get to hear a lot. 
So I was running along to that. 

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I'm like, this is a great song. 
Hip hop, I don't get to, we 

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don't get to play. 
Hip Hop. 

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So I'm gonna make it. 
Not triple, not triple M's main 

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choice, is it? 
Although electronic, they could 

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do work. 
There's a lot of country songs 

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that we don't. 
Get We'll get to the country. 

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Yeah, in a moment, pulling back 
that curtain. 

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Can you tell it how's it work 
with, how's it work with music 

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licencing on you? 
So, like, if you play Jelly, you

452
00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,000
play a Jelly roll. 
Yeah. 

453
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,280
Are you paying a licencing fee 
every time you pay that song? 

454
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,760
We have to pay a fee to what's 
it called, ACMA. 

455
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,040
ACMA, I was going to say EMRA. 
Australian Commercial I've been.

456
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,440
Across this a little bit. 
Yeah, there's a fee. 

457
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,120
You have one of my first. 
Jobs, well, sorry, I'll jump in,

458
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,720
but even one of the biggest 
things that surprised me, if you

459
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,280
were like a larger corporate 
office and you're playing music 

460
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,560
in your office, you're meant to 
be paying a licence. 

461
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,240
What when I worked at, when I 
worked at a surf store in 

462
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:36,080
Adelaide when I was at uni, we 
had a company that dictated our 

463
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,600
music and we had to only play 
that because we were paying a 

464
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,840
fee to play that and we played 
any other music it would incur a

465
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,800
different fee. 
One of my first job was the 

466
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,520
radio station Early Doors, like 
talking like 12 years ago. 

467
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,640
I had to sit there on AMS DOS 
style computer programme and 

468
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,680
they, the system had had missed 
a bunch of songs throughout the 

469
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,080
last financial year or whatever.
And so the ACMA phase were off 

470
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,520
or something like that. 
And so I literally had to spend 

471
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,040
like a week going through and 
manually ticking off these songs

472
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:12,600
on this computer programme. 
So yeah, it's the the, the songs

473
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,400
are the songs that we play for a
reason. 

474
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,320
Yep. 
But yeah, there's some. 

475
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,680
There's a lot of great music. 
Getting it by get into country 

476
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,120
then. 
So those three you guessed and 

477
00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:26,360
they're the country stars. 
Country I because I I knew 

478
00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:28,800
country was popular at the 
moment, but I didn't think if 

479
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,120
you took a a running audience 
predominantly yeah. 

480
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:37,040
And said, what are you, you 
know, what are three of the main

481
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,840
songs out of that audience? 
They come to that country. 

482
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,200
Well, I think this is and and we
will get into some more. 

483
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,120
This is all running base, but 
we'll get into some more. 

484
00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,760
You're running as well. 
We're running people what you're

485
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,200
listening to. 
I think this arcs back to or 

486
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,280
this, this speaks a little bit 
to something you and I've talked

487
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,160
about. 
Remember, we had a conversation 

488
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,080
many, many, many months ago on 
the podcast about the money 

489
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,720
involved with surfing. 
And you gave me that incredible 

490
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,560
insight, which is that back in 
the heyday of Parker and Kelly 

491
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,760
and all these guys and Mick and 
the money for the surfers was 

492
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,760
generated out of the clothing 
apparel. 

493
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,360
Now that market of the middle 
aged people that used to buy the

494
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:20,120
Billabong T-shirts and the board
shorts and the RIP Girls and the

495
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:22,600
Quicksilvers and everything had 
pivoted and that is now an 

496
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,120
audience or a market that is 
they've gone by Ringers Weston 

497
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,640
and Harriet and these sort of 
country brands. 

498
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,200
I think this is a reflection of 
that change of market as well. 

499
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,640
Whereas years gone by when bands
like Friends Will Roam and that 

500
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,480
kind of surfing counterculture 
music might have been appealing.

501
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,360
As they change their clothes, 
they also change their music. 

502
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,360
And instead, you know, while 
they wear Harriet and Ringers 

503
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:49,960
West and they also run to, you 
know, the the pop country stuff,

504
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,560
the Zac Bryan and the Luke Combs
and all the rest of that. 

505
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,880
I'm just impressed, you know, 
Harriet. 

506
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,680
Oh yeah, I know. 
You you know your country brands

507
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,960
better than you do now. 
Streaming. 

508
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,480
Running brands. 
I do actually, yeah, yeah, yeah.

509
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,560
So this is the do. 
Do you have more data out of our

510
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,760
our Strava, our Spotify Rap 
keeps? 

511
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,720
Sorry, I was, I was enjoying our
chat on this. 

512
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,920
No, it keeps it's it's yeah. 
So I mean, obviously everyone 

513
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,000
gets their this Spotify rap and 
that the podcast back into the 

514
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,360
podcast 1's probably a little 
bit different, but the three 

515
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,120
other. 
So this is more just thanking 

516
00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:26,920
everyone listening who's been 
listening to us every week. 3 of

517
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,040
the big stats that come through 
that are stoked on was we 

518
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,040
actually got called a 2025 
marathon show. 

519
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,360
Now that's got nothing to do 
with running. 

520
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:38,480
It's complete coincidence. 
But fans that listened. 

521
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,320
Now, obviously size of podcasts 
matter in this of course, but 

522
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,560
fans that listen to you for fans
listen to In the beginning 

523
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:51,080
podcast for longer than 99% of 
other shows. 

524
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,160
So those thank you, thank 
everyone who's listening to us, 

525
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,320
the retention of you hanging out
with us and we you know, we 

526
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,280
often go on tangents away from 
running. 

527
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,040
Yeah, like right now you hang 
with us. 

528
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,200
Yep, amazing. 
Thank you. 

529
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,720
A top 1% on Spotify of shared 
podcasts. 

530
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,400
Oh, wow. 
So thank you again. 

531
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,000
Well done audience in sharing 
it. 

532
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,680
And then finally, in the top 1%,
I've talked about podcasts. 

533
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,760
That's amazing. 
That's amazing. 

534
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,120
So thank you. 
That's the warm and fuzzies. 

535
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:24,720
That's so cool. 
We'll Yeah. 

536
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,960
Well done to every thank. 
Not well done. 

537
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,040
Thank you. 
That's what genuinely Courtney 

538
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,920
and I, this started because we 
enjoyed the conversations we 

539
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,000
were having. 
We weren't sure if anybody else 

540
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,240
would to get that kind of 
feedback in data as it we the 

541
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,600
anecdotal support we've received
throughout the year. 

542
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,360
I will never forget the feeling 
on the finish line of the Gold 

543
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,920
Coast Marathon, the amount of 
people that were like coming up 

544
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,160
and saying hi, shouting out, 
saying thank you. 

545
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,480
That for me anecdotally, was 
reason just to keep doing this 

546
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,800
podcast. 
If even if we did nothing else 

547
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,160
didn't didn't go on any other 
adventures, didn't do any other,

548
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,440
you know, partnership 
sponsorships, anything like that

549
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,120
didn't make anything else that 
reason alone. 

550
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,600
Those people coming up and 
anecdotally just saying, hey, 

551
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,840
I've been listening, thanks so 
much. 

552
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,360
And seeing them finish a race, 
yeah, was reason enough to hear 

553
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:16,640
this information. 
Now, at the end of a a year like

554
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,600
this just gets me so excited to 
keep going and. 

555
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,000
Has there been one particular 
person or someone you know that 

556
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,520
you run into and they've said 
they listen and you is kind of 

557
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,720
like, well, why? 
Well, well, I kind of surprised 

558
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:28,960
you. 
I'll. 

559
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:35,680
I'll tell you a a quick story. 
Two weeks ago or a week and a 

560
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,480
half ago, I got a call from, I 
got a message and email from the

561
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,600
Cairns radio station asking me, 
hey, the AFLW grand finals on 

562
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,240
this weekend, it's Lions V 
Kangaroos. 

563
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,280
Can we give you a call to talk 
to you about it on the show? 

564
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,960
And of course I said absolutely 
no worries. 

565
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,040
And so Tammy and JB, which is 
the breakfast show in Cairns 

566
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,440
called me up. 
We we chatted about the AFL 

567
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:04,320
grand final and then we finished
recording and then Tammy said, 

568
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,160
hey, Liam, I listen to your 
podcast with Courtney and I was 

569
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,400
like, she said she's a friend of
yours. 

570
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,160
And I was blown away because I 
saw, I didn't think anybody 

571
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,480
within our radio station network
knows about the podcast like 

572
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,600
some of them do, because some of
them run and some of them do 

573
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,080
listen. 
But I didn't think somebody up 

574
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,760
in Cairns knew about the 
podcast, let alone listen. 

575
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,560
Yeah, well, shout out to Tammy. 
I mean, she, I've known her from

576
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,520
years, but she actually does, 
obviously with that radio and 

577
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,040
presenting background, does the 
same job you do on the MC for 

578
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,600
Iron Man being all around the 
world, at least around Asia. 

579
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,880
Yeah, it's calling Finish lines.
For, but I had, I had one at the

580
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,640
Gold Coast Marathon earlier this
year where someone came up to me

581
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,000
at the end as they were 
finishing and said, Liam, 

582
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,880
faster, not longer, like, 'cause
when we had that little catch 

583
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,280
phrase for a minute there, well,
it's, it's still there. 

584
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,880
Yeah. 
Like, I get that one. 

585
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,640
Why people called out now that 
you're going to do a Miley, 

586
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,680
you've absolutely rooted that. 
Well, no 'cause I'm running it 

587
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,320
faster. 
No. 

588
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,400
So, yeah, the the the fact that 
all this information is coming 

589
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,000
in that it's not just the way we
feel about the podcast, but it's

590
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,920
the way that you people who are 
listening feel about it as well.

591
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,560
Very, very excited for 2026. 
Have you got anything more from 

592
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,560
Rapt? 
No, because I've got something I

593
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,600
want to. 
See, let's get on to. 

594
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,800
This I want to just have you got
running. 

595
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,000
I just quickly on my rap, my 
Spotify rapt top five artists 

596
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,920
for No, I'm just going to tell 
you mine because there is a real

597
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,920
stand out. 
Yeah, no. 

598
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,360
Well, I think I'm interested. 
So my number one artist was 

599
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,520
Mumford and Sons. 
They had a new album that came 

600
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,560
out this year that I just fell 
in love with and listened to a 

601
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,280
lot. 
Gee, that's, that's I didn't 

602
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,320
run. 
It's not running music. 

603
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,960
This is not my running music. 
Jack Johnson was #2 OK, Post 

604
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,760
Malone was in at 4. 
Oasis was in at 5:00. 

605
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,840
But the number three artist on 
my top five movie was Hugh 

606
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,160
Jackman, because, and this is. 
Now can I take a guess on this? 

607
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,760
Oh yeah, go for. 
It greatest showman bang. 

608
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,680
I've been there my kids. 
I've been there my. 

609
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,600
Kids three of the songs of that 
album for the greatest Showman 

610
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,120
soundtrack, 3 songs were in my 
top five most listened to songs.

611
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,160
This is why you knew about and 
this. 

612
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,120
Is why I think the tailors. 
I I remember when, when my son 

613
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,360
was that age, The greatest 
showman, I think we went, I was 

614
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:32,320
on a may have even been during 
COVID by some chance the back 

615
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,840
end of COVID. 
I went on a road trip, went from

616
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,760
Goldie, drove all the way out, 
spent Christmas at Edge Rock, 

617
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,560
Uluru and then went all the way 
down the coast through Cuba PD, 

618
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,280
out W camp and got down to your 
neck of the where you come from 

619
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,360
neck of the woods in SA and come
all the way back. 

620
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,840
I've got a feeling it was that 
trip. 

621
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,760
I reckon I listened to The 
Greatest Showman about probably 

622
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,080
half the time. 
How old was your listening age? 

623
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,320
How? 
23. 23 What are you listening to

624
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:10,240
that's ageing you to 23? 
Because I was 38, yeah. 

625
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,480
I'm gonna I'm trying to find my 
23 chatting. 

626
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,040
I'm just. 
Listening to the wheels. 

627
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,080
I'm. 
Trying 23 that is, that is. 

628
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,440
Unbelievable. 
It's trying to find my rapt. 

629
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,920
Why is it keep keep chatting? 
I'm going to find these. 

630
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,000
Courts Courtney's searching 
through his rap. 

631
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:36,000
Hey, while Courtney is searching
through that, we have a little 

632
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,200
bit Oh, here we go. 
There you go. 

633
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,520
You found it. 
Oh, so you got a bit of this You

634
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,360
got OK so it's all the Fred 
again stuff that's ageing you 

635
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,600
down. 
Gotcha. 

636
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,920
But my top song was why can't? 
Why doesn't it tell you who 

637
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,160
they? 
I reck I'm going to try 

638
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,280
listening a bit of Fred again. 
Give me who? 

639
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,880
What do you reckon my top song 
would have been? 

640
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,680
Something by Fred again? 
No, sorry. 

641
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,440
Probably some country. 
No, it was actually. 

642
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,160
Oh, no, there's a, there's a 
song. 

643
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,360
You've told us before what that 
song that you love running to 

644
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,520
most is. 
It's a it's a 360 song. 

645
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,960
Yeah, the 360. 
No, my my top song was Down 

646
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,520
Under really man, down on. 
But it was a techno version like

647
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,840
a like was an electronic 
version. 

648
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,840
Land down on yeah, land down on 
the Techno Ocean. 

649
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,200
That's why you're ageing down, 
because you're embracing all. 

650
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,160
That royal. 
Odours. 

651
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,640
Royal Otis. 
Number one, awesome. 

652
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,800
They were in my top. 
Good neighbours, good 

653
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,360
neighbours. 
Up there, OK, yeah. 

654
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,880
So I think now's in a good time.
We've just talked about how much

655
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,600
we appreciate the support of the
audience. 

656
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,480
IA little bit of news for 
everybody out there. 

657
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,760
It's not just Courtney and I 
that feel good about the Bogas. 

658
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:50,040
It's not just you, the people 
listening to it who are saying 

659
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:55,160
that it's good. 
Courtney We are a an Award 

660
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,840
nominated podcast. 
Thank you ever we. 

661
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,080
The in the beginning has. 
At the Gold Coast Triple M. 

662
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,040
Is this the? 
Triple M Gold. 

663
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:08,320
Coast No No Courtney in the 
beginning, is a finalist for the

664
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,920
2025 Australian Sports 
Commission Media Awards. 

665
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,680
Sports Commission. 
Yeah, we we have been 

666
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,080
shortlisted as one of the five 
finalists for the Best Sport 

667
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,720
podcast of 2020. 
Five OK, so my my immediate 

668
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,000
question is who else? 
Like what kind of podcast? 

669
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,000
So we are we are going up 
against the podcast that won 

670
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,560
last year, which is the Final 
Word Cricket podcast. 

671
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,200
We're Backcourt, which is a 
Netball Australia podcast, ABC 

672
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,480
Sport Daily by the ABC, Sportish
by Libby Trickett, OK and her 

673
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,200
sister Georgie Trickett, and 
then in the beginning by Liam 

674
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,360
Flanagan and Courtney Atkinson. 
So we are our finalists. 

675
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,200
So next February we will be 
headed to the SCG for the awards

676
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,000
night. 
All the big. 

677
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,680
Swinging will we? 
That's news to me. 

678
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,080
Yeah, we're off. 
We we get to go down there for 

679
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,440
an awards night. 
We'll be suited and booted. 

680
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,000
I think Bruce McMahon is 
receiving some big award there 

681
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,600
on the night and you and I will 
hopefully be bringing home a 

682
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,800
trophy. 
Trophies against ABC. 

683
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,080
I'll tell you what, I'd be 
disappointed if we lost ABC. 

684
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,800
Can I say that? 
You can I've I've lost this 

685
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,320
award before. 
I did a podcast in a previous 

686
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,639
life that also made the final. 
And you lost it to ABC. 

687
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,560
Now who? 
Did I lose to I lost to narrowly

688
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,440
Meadows. 
Narrowly, Meadows had a podcast 

689
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,960
that. 
It's a government organisation, 

690
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:29,440
you know, they're skewed 
towards, they don't like 

691
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,520
private, they don't like 
private. 

692
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,920
We are being judged on the 
quality of our work. 

693
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,320
Courtney Atkinson. 
Not well. 

694
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,159
That could be another another. 
Issue. 

695
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,600
Yeah, Anyway, good news, Yeah, 
very good news. 

696
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,920
Just jumping into some running. 
Can I thank everybody because 

697
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,719
the amount of people that have 
reached out offering to help me 

698
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,440
with the Mylar? 
You're sort after, aren't you? 

699
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,920
Yeah. 
I don't know, you know, whether 

700
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,120
it's a good thing or a bad thing
that they think, look at me as 

701
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,840
a, as a charity case that really
needs the help or as a project 

702
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,480
that they can mould into their 
own. 

703
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,560
I hope you just see coat tails 
that you can jump on because I'm

704
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,320
going to go so well. 
But no, thank you. 

705
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,520
There's been so many people 
reach out and offer help and 

706
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,080
support and I'm going to get 
back to you all. 

707
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,880
I, I will take all the help and 
support that's being offered to 

708
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,600
me at the moment. 
And, and can I also say one more

709
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,520
thing, guys, Reedy is a friend. 
He's very much on my side. 

710
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,680
What did you do was. 
This. 

711
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,960
I had a few people reach out 
saying oh stuff ready and I'm 

712
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,880
like no. 
Concerned for you? 

713
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:28,560
Concerned for you? 
Mental. 

714
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,680
Health ready? 
He's just being ready. 

715
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,560
He's just being the pragmatic, 
practical person he's being. 

716
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,000
He's he's, he's trying to keep 
my feet firmly on the ground 

717
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,680
about he did. 
It in a more direct way than I 

718
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,760
did. 
Yeah, exactly. 

719
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,760
Ready is very much of the 
Courtney Atkinson School of 

720
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,520
Running and approach to running.
I'm off with the fairies 

721
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,320
thinking life's great, 
everything's going to be a piece

722
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,800
of cake. 
So Ready is very much in my 

723
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,280
corner. 
But just one of those realistic 

724
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,800
voices that is good for you to 
have if you're if you're 

725
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,160
tackling anything like this, 
Milo Challenge is presenting 

726
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,240
well. 
Tell us about your running. 

727
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:06,440
What's going on? 
So I'm, I'm feeling really good.

728
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,280
I'm loving the gym work. 
My legs feel very strong. 

729
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,400
Strava just I'm going to jump 
around here. 

730
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,040
No, because I think I've, you 
know how we've talked about 

731
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:21,320
Strava and the growth of Strava 
and the development of Strava 

732
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,320
privatise or the pub, the public
listing of Strava that's been 

733
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,000
reported as well. 
I think I've figured out a 

734
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,040
natural addition evolution, 
whatever you want to call it for

735
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,080
Strava, because right now for 
anybody that does have the paid 

736
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:40,840
subscription service, when you 
run, it provides AI analysis. 

737
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,960
Yeah, it provides, it gives you 
a little a synopsis. 

738
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,040
It what does it call it? 
Athlete intelligence. 

739
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,480
Right now I went for a run. 
I'll, I'll, I'll do this. 

740
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,160
I'm going to be pretty blunt. 
It's pretty useless. 

741
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,840
So, well, this is my point, 
right? 

742
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,440
I went for a run on the other 
day and I saw Maddie Hauser 

743
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,120
actually going. 
Now that it's funny, since I've 

744
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,200
since we had Matt Hauser on this
show, I see him everywhere. 

745
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,600
Like he lives nearby to me. 
But I have seen him everywhere 

746
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,720
since we did. 
He did he. 

747
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:08,480
Yeah. 
He gave me a wave. 

748
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,240
Well, we're running the other 
way, thankfully. 

749
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,200
OK, but let me read you this. 
Athlete intelligence. 

750
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,240
And I wanted just you listen to 
what Shrava gave me and you try 

751
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:23,000
and predict what I did, if that 
makes sense. 

752
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,760
Sure. 
Is the athlete intelligence from

753
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,680
Shrava from my run. 
A speedy run with kilo final 

754
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,360
kilometres hitting your fastest 
pace of the month and crushing 

755
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,720
some intense intervals. 
This run was a solid 

756
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:35,160
performance, significantly 
faster than your 30 day average 

757
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,720
pace. 
Your heart rate distribution 

758
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:40,080
shows a strong effort, with 
nearly 55% of time spent in 

759
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,560
tempo and threshold zones. 
The activity featured impressive

760
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,520
interval work with quick paces 
during one minute and 92nd 

761
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,800
intervals that demonstrate good 
speed and intensity. 

762
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,400
Jesus a fair. 
Bit in that. 

763
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,480
Yeah. 
Talk. 

764
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,560
Talk about social media skewing 
your mind on your talk and 

765
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,120
running, that's what what. 
Did you hear out of that? 

766
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,800
Well, the fact it's picking up, 
there's repetitions in there. 

767
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,360
You must have been doing some 
type of over under or some type 

768
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,040
of repetition work. 
I'm thinking and then, but 

769
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:17,680
knowing what the AI often does 
on Strava, were you did you 

770
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,240
build your run? 
That was a Mona. 

771
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,600
That was a Mona. 
Session right in the. 

772
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,840
First, you're right in the yeah,
But here's what, and this is 

773
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:30,880
where I think, because what I 
think where Strava needs to or 

774
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,600
can go to, should go to, should 
be looking to arrive at. 

775
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:41,120
There are universal truths in 
running like Mona is a universal

776
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,120
session. 
Yes. 

777
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,840
Strava should be able to see 
that. 

778
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,360
Yeah, you think it should not? 
Strava should be able to review 

779
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,600
that run and go. 
This is a Mona session and and 

780
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,960
provide the feedback 
appropriately or or you know 

781
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,160
that that's where that AI 
element of Strava, that's where 

782
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,760
that the benefit of Strava 
having purchased runner this 

783
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,400
training programme, that's that 
evolution. 

784
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,400
I would love to see them arrive 
at which is where they can 

785
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,600
observe and analyse a session 
that you've done and be able to 

786
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,520
actually bring running 
intelligence to it. 

787
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,080
Yeah. 
Does that make sense? 

788
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,200
Sorry, I just got a message from
Benita of all people. 

789
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,080
Saying Liam, don't listen to 
Strava. 

790
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,760
I should not be. 
She can. 

791
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,840
She's obviously hurt you. 
That was a shit session. 

792
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:34,640
Don't listen to Strava. 
It's like I should have been 

793
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,400
checking my phone in the middle 
of time. 

794
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,520
What are you doing? 
Running Mona, you're meant to be

795
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,320
resting. 
She's listening. 

796
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,280
No, you know what I'd want to 
hear from her talking about AI 

797
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,160
and Strava. 
What I'd want to hear is I agree

798
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,920
it should pick up manas, but it 
should then give you practical 

799
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,680
advice to say, hey, this is an 
improvement in your manas. 

800
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,560
Maybe you should think about 
doing this session to build on 

801
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,600
your fitness. 
Or maybe you could tack on this 

802
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,920
next time. 
Or if it goes the opposite way 

803
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,280
and you're you, it can see your 
heart rates high and you're up. 

804
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,600
It could, you know, might say, I
can see you've had a tough day. 

805
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,360
Hey, but. 
The weather was 30° and the 

806
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,400
humidity, it's probably don't 
worry about it too much. 

807
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,480
It's the weather next week, come
back that's practical. 

808
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,720
Because for anybody that's used 
ChatGPT for anything out there, 

809
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,320
ChatGPT is eternally optimistic 
and positive. 

810
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,320
Yep, there it is really hard to 
get a, a real true critique of 

811
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,200
anything you're doing from 
ChatGPT. 

812
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,320
I've actually tried to ask it to
make some right, some negative 

813
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,880
jokes before and it it wasn't 
prepared, basically said no. 

814
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:54,600
And that's where to your point, 
Strava, that AI intelligence 

815
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,560
part of it, that athlete 
intelligence, that feedback, 

816
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,040
that critique, it needs to be 
more. 

817
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,160
Critical, honestly, right at the
moment. 

818
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,760
I mean, they're probably, if 
it's true AI, it's obviously a 

819
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,160
train, It's probably training. 
It's whatever you want to call 

820
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,600
it, Brain. 
Yeah, but right at the moment, 

821
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,840
just don't even bother showing 
it's. 

822
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,080
It's nothing more than a pat on 
the bum. 

823
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,000
It's useless. 
Yeah, it is, absolutely. 

824
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,440
It's a cheerleader. 
It's not even, it's just just 

825
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,200
take it off until you get it to 
a point that it's always 

826
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,200
worthwhile. 
Hey, there's been, I'm talking 

827
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,800
about AI. 
There's been because I've done a

828
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,240
few trips to Brisbane this week 
which are 4 hour round trips 

829
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:38,440
these days, you know what I 
mean? 

830
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,360
Like, yeah, it's going. 
Up and back. 

831
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,280
There's been plenty of podcasts,
things on back. 

832
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:47,400
All the bigger US podcasters 
have been really into the AISAI 

833
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,120
stuff lately. 
And just, you know, the whole 

834
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,320
notion of, you know, the end of 
the world. 

835
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,920
Like, what is it gonna be? 
Yeah. 

836
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,960
You don't want to listen to too 
much of that stuff. 

837
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,880
Nah. 
They talk about getting, you 

838
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,440
know, down on things. 
Yeah. 

839
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,480
You don't want to be thinking. 
About it. 

840
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,760
So Strava, get rid of it. 
Yeah, get rid of it. 

841
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,240
It's something we don't need. 
Now I've got a question for you 

842
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:12,520
because going back to my 
running, I did a mono session 

843
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,720
for, by the way, we I've been 
through this phase before for 

844
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:19,600
people that have been in the 
scene for a while where you do 

845
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,320
enough easy runs and I've just 
been kind of ticking my legs 

846
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,080
over of like averaging kind of 
40 to 50 KS a week just to keep 

847
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,040
my legs rolling over. 
But it's all been kind of easy 

848
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,200
or it's been up in the trails. 
And if you do those for long 

849
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,640
enough and avoid speed, it, it 
can be intimidating to go out 

850
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,520
and do a speed session. 
That mono session is one of my 

851
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,000
favourite sessions I've done for
a while. 

852
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,960
Like and it wasn't, it wasn't 
overly taxed like it wasn't a 

853
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,200
hard session, sorry. 
Where? 

854
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,800
Where did you do? 
It I just did it out the front 

855
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,520
on the flats, yeah of of where 
I'm, I mean on the South end of 

856
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,520
the coast. 
But my average pace of over the 

857
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,120
I did a little over 10K's at 442
is as quick of average pace over

858
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,200
10K as I've had for a very. 
Long time. 

859
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,560
So you go. 
You're moving well. 

860
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,600
I had a great, I had a great run
and then yesterday I had a 

861
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,880
really easy, like deliberately, 
I ran an average of 520 pace for

862
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,400
11 KS, like deliberately, really
slow. 

863
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,880
Tried to really focus on just 
cruising and that run felt 

864
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,000
great. 
So I woke up the this morning 

865
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,680
off the back of that run feeling
amazing. 

866
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,120
Body feels really good this 
weekend though, and this is what

867
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,280
I want to talk to you about. 
I want to go up Paige's 

868
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,360
Pinnacle. 
Cool, How do I? 

869
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,000
Are you asking me to take you? 
How do I do it? 

870
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,080
No, you don't have to take it, 
but how do I do it? 

871
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,960
I would love to no we. 
And do you know what's to blame?

872
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,760
We're going to come full, full 
circle here on influences. 

873
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,720
Who was bloody Maddie Poole? 
No, I've never met Matt. 

874
00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:49,440
He seems like a great fella. 
Iron Man, one of the crew there,

875
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,560
you know, he's he's he failed to
qualify for this year's series. 

876
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,840
So he's but he does some 
commentary work and I love, I 

877
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,400
love, man. 
What? 

878
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,240
Was he doing up at pages? 
So he was up there he's done a 

879
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:08,000
sponsored post for the Oakley 
meta glasses, the new Oakleys 

880
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,680
that have come out with the 
glasses in the front and he's 

881
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,760
done this real and he's he's 
sold me hey, because he's. 

882
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,480
Sold on pages or the glasses? 
Oh, he's actually it was a 

883
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,680
sponsored post for Oakley's meta
glasses, not for pages pinnacle,

884
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,600
but he's at the top there and 
saying hey. 

885
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,800
Looking over the side or. 
Something, hey, what's the 

886
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,560
elevation up here and all that 
sort of stuff? 

887
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,120
Yeah. 
And then I was like, I want to 

888
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,440
go around that. 
I've got to have a look, yeah. 

889
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,480
I want to go around that I. 
Can't imagine Matt being too 

890
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,600
coordinated to get across pages 
properly. 

891
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,720
No, no, I say that not in a, not
in a Shots fine. 

892
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:45,520
Not in a in any bad way. 
There is no other way, water 

893
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,800
guy. 
There is no other way to 

894
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,400
criticise someone's 
coordination. 

895
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:56,400
No, no, no, I don't mean it. 
I would be happy to be 

896
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,560
criticised in the water myself. 
I don't mean it in a negative 

897
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,640
way, but you looked really uncle
going. 

898
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,680
Because I know he's a Waterman. 
He's a Waterman. 

899
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,440
And Paige's, I think I told this
story. 

900
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,680
I took the monster NFL 
Australian NFL player. 

901
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,880
I can't remember. 
Yeah, I took him up there. 

902
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,480
I've taken plenty of people up 
the pages because the Ridgeline 

903
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,000
depends on which way you go. 
There's two options, OK, you can

904
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,560
get across the first like 
Ridgeline and it's not vertical 

905
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:33,800
down, so it's not crazy, but 
it's enough that if you're a 

906
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,320
little bit scared of heights or 
a bit worried of your footing, 

907
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,200
it's not the easiest place to 
get across. 

908
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,360
There's a little bit you got to,
you know, probably 3 points of 

909
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,400
contact, climb across or you can
duck under, walk along kind of 

910
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,080
the edge of underneath the first
Cliff and get around. 

911
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,240
So I never know how people are 
getting out there, but I've 

912
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:57,880
taken a few people across that 
top Ridge and it's not like you 

913
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,560
want to be sure of your footing.
The reason I say, and I'm not 

914
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:06,240
having to go Maddie, but. 
He's he's a big water guy. 

915
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:09,000
He's a big guy. 
He's a big water guy. 

916
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,600
He can run though. 
He runs, he runs. 

917
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,120
He runs really well, but he's a 
tall, big guy, big feet. 

918
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,760
I just can't imagine him getting
across pages like, like really, 

919
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,000
really, you know, running 
across, running across pages, 

920
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,800
Yeah. 
So where do you cause yeah, well

921
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,680
like is it do you go same path 
up from Springbrook? 

922
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,400
Like is that your access point 
or do you go from in boomerang 

923
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,840
farm kind of way? 
We can go both ways. 

924
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,640
It's definitely a longer slog to
come from what they call Pollys 

925
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,160
down the bottom there, which 
would be the Springbrook way. 

926
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,200
You're thinking there's a loop 
you can go around and run there,

927
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,400
but it's a tough old loop. 
Well, hey, I reckon. 

928
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,480
The more basically what I'm 
looking for and as look, as I 

929
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,000
said, I've had a really great 
Mona set this week. 

930
00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:56,640
I've had a nice easy run where I
just just kept what do you. 

931
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,880
Just want to walk up there to 
see it. 

932
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,160
I know I wanna I'm looking for, 
I'm having a great time out in 

933
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,720
the border trail, right? 
I've also I had a great single 

934
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:09,000
trail like you, Courtney and I 
went out for a run around the 

935
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:14,440
border trail whenever we did and
I basically knew the fire track.

936
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,520
Yep. 
And you said to me there's a 

937
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,760
whole whole heap of single 
trails down there and then I ran

938
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,360
it with a neighbour the other 
week and now I'm just going to 

939
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,720
be running single trails through
there. 

940
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:26,160
It's amazing through there. 
So there's. 

941
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,080
This is what I say. 
I know I shouldn't say. 

942
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,120
I'm not going to say it. 
No, no, no, no, no. 

943
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,440
I'll get a backtrack on that. 
The single trail stuff though, 

944
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,520
it's we talked a bit about it 
when we were introducing Lee to 

945
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,480
trail running a few weeks back 
or when you did that entry thing

946
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,400
to trail running is that. 
It's way nicer running on the 

947
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,600
single track. 
It is way nicer, but it also 

948
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,240
takes a level of confidence and 
familiarity with your 

949
00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:51,840
environment to feel comfortable 
doing it, particularly by 

950
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,800
yourself. 
Right. 

951
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,440
I'm now comfortable running 
single trails through the border

952
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,520
Trail because I know it's it's 
kind of like the Gold Coast in 

953
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,400
that it's a strip. 
I know I can't get lost on the 

954
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,240
left because it's old mate from 
Billabong owns that whole 

955
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:07,000
section and I can't get lost on 
the right because it's the road.

956
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,000
So I've got this corridor to 
work within and I'm not going to

957
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,560
get lost. 
Yeah, that's why. 

958
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,800
Do you know? 
That area, it's just random 

959
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,240
story. 
Covid's over. 

960
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:20,720
We can talk about it now during 
COVID, you know, when there was 

961
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:23,760
all the border stuff going on. 
So literally as you're running 

962
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,960
through that single track, yeah,
fence line up there is the 

963
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,600
border. 
So effectively the single track 

964
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,840
from my from my understanding, 
yeah, you're on the on the other

965
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,040
side you're running in NSW. 
So during COVID, with all the 

966
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,720
issues that were happening, 
people coming up and thing there

967
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:42,360
was nothing stopping someone 
just walking up into that area 

968
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,880
it. 
Wasn't a hard border. 

969
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,440
It wasn't a hard border. 
It wasn't a hard. 

970
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,040
Border if you if you knew the 
crumb and trails. 

971
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,760
But the reason I asked about? 
Patriots. 

972
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,640
Backpack The reason I asked 
about Pages Pinnacle is because 

973
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:58,440
I'm loving the border trails. 
I know Nerang is there for me 

974
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,840
when I get the time to make the 
drive up and and run around 

975
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,720
Nerang, but I'm also looking for
I want to I know spring. 

976
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:05,520
I just I'm just going to explore
more trails. 

977
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,640
Well. 
Explore away pages is a shit of 

978
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:10,160
you're not gonna. 
There's no running, OK? 

979
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,640
It's not running. 
No, that's a climb. 

980
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,200
It's a climb. 
So it's a hike. 

981
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,480
If you go from the Namamba 
Valley side, you're literally 

982
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,720
gonna climb 3K straight up a 
hill. 

983
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,640
OK, which is isn't a bad thing 
either, because the other. 

984
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,040
It's a hard 3K the. 
Other feedback I keep getting 

985
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,840
from everybody who's reached out
about the Mylar is stairs, 

986
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,280
stairs, stairs, stairs, stairs, 
stairs, stairs, stairs. 

987
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,760
Yeah, but like what I'm saying 
is there's better options if you

988
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,120
want to go and run, OK, But if 
you actually just want to go and

989
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,760
see pages Pinnacle? 
I'd like to do both. 

990
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,000
It's probably a better one just 
to go and grab, take some food 

991
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,200
and go up for sunset or sunrise 
like it's a more of a high. 

992
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,320
OK, well have you taken your 
kids up it? 

993
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I've got the last time I took 

994
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,200
the kids up, we went up for 
sunset. 

995
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,720
I believe this has come back 
years ago. 

996
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,360
Oh, it's. 
Super. 

997
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,040
Fun. 
How old were they? 

998
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,880
Yeah, probably not your kids age
a little bit older, but I can 

999
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,040
recall. 
Oh, I had. 

1000
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,320
We had a great time. 
Because like the you want 

1001
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,600
something to do with your kids 
that's fun. 

1002
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,320
Yeah. 
Go and do those single trails at

1003
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,760
night with head torches. 
Oh, really? 

1004
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,040
Yeah. 
OK. 100%. 

1005
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:23,840
Put some Taylor Swift on. 
Kids in the dark, in the Bush, 

1006
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,760
they're going to have a ball. 
OK, absolute ball. 

1007
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,000
Yeah, as long as they don't take
their head torches off and 

1008
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,120
disappear. 
You've got you've got trackers 

1009
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,280
on your kids. 
I don't know about those. 

1010
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,360
Yeah, fuck kids. 
Yeah, that's but that's where 

1011
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,400
I'm at with running. 
Again, Body feels good. 

1012
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,120
I do need to the the there's 
kind of the looming spectre in 

1013
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,800
my life, as we've talked about 
before, is the is the 

1014
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,000
qualification race. 
So I've got to make sure I've 

1015
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,080
got that one locked in. 
But yeah, no, I'm loving running

1016
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:54,800
at the moment. 
It's great. 

1017
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,600
Well, I've got running news in 
the sense I can. 

1018
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,960
I'm at a probably at a week 
where I start to I can talk 

1019
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,040
about running. 
It's not just I'm not just going

1020
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,040
out. 
That's why I haven't talked 

1021
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,360
about it much to now. 
It's been like it's a little bit

1022
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,560
like we said, you know? 
Should you post a run on Strava?

1023
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:11,920
Did you? 
Use a little run on Strava of 

1024
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,840
yours yesterday. 
Well, should you post a run on 

1025
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,200
Strava or if you just go on and 
run in 10K easy or 5K easy or 

1026
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,200
whatever? 
Post whatever you want on Strava

1027
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,400
you can. 
Post whatever went on Strava. 

1028
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,360
But the question is, should you 
or I don't? 

1029
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,400
I never really saw the point of 
talking to people and going or 

1030
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,120
what did you have done Running? 
Well, I've been running. 

1031
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,120
There's nothing more than I've 
been running OK this week, 

1032
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,840
however, I obviously been doing 
a fair bit of gym. 

1033
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,640
It's all going well. 
Yeah, got into the Spit with the

1034
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,160
crew on Tuesday. 
Now I've been going in there 

1035
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,600
warming up. 
This is with the, the, the Gold 

1036
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:46,040
Coast. 
Yeah, the Gold Coast, but 

1037
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,280
they're moving pretty quick. 
I warm up with them and then 

1038
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,960
I've just been kind of jogging 
along for the set for the 20 

1039
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,280
minutes or 30 minute session or 
whatever and then jogging out 

1040
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,720
and just keeping it nice. 
And this week I thought the 

1041
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:06,160
session was 4 minutes, 4 minutes
on run or whatever, and then 4 

1042
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,720
minutes. 
One minute easy on float, float,

1043
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:15,360
30 seconds fast, 30 seconds 
float back into 4 minutes, four 

1044
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,320
times. 
So it's a 24 minute session. 

1045
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,920
OK, good session. 
Great. 

1046
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,320
Session. 
Yeah, yeah, it was like super 

1047
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,080
good session. 
Louis did it. 

1048
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,560
It was the one who suggested. 
It so just get hold on just for 

1049
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,240
everybody out there playing 
along, break that down. 

1050
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:31,120
You have you warmed up? 
Yeah, so 20 minutes warm up. 20 

1051
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,560
minute warm up and then it's 4 
rounds through the set which is 

1052
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,960
a. 6 It's a 6 minute set, so 4 
minutes on one minute off 30 

1053
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,480
seconds on 30 seconds off times.
4 Yep. 

1054
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,480
And with 30 seconds being fast 
and then you've got 30 seconds 

1055
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:50,000
rest 4 minute pacing. 
Well, I I mean, everyone was 

1056
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,480
doing the pacing they can 
control, so control pacing. 

1057
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,160
I don't think it was too much. 
So you trying to run like but 

1058
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,440
for when they say 4 minutes on 
yeah, so 4 minutes fast, 4 

1059
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,320
minutes fast. 
Okay. 

1060
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,680
With the allowance then you go 
into the 30 seconds and can pick

1061
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,000
it up. 
Yeah. 

1062
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,520
So it's it's a pace that you've 
got to be able to hold, but 

1063
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,080
you've got to have another gear 
to go to, even if it's just for 

1064
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,920
30 seconds and you've got to be 
able to sustain it through four 

1065
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:13,880
sets. 
I'm sure there was a 

1066
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,280
prescription, but the fact that 
I didn't plan to run it, I 

1067
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,400
wasn't listening beyond that. 
But what I did, so I ran on the 

1068
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,000
back and I thought I'll just, I 
kind of ran off and I wasn't 

1069
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,800
going to do any speed, but I ran
on the back of them, the 

1070
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,760
backpack and just kind of 
started tapping along and felt 

1071
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,200
good. 
So I kept tapping along, felt 

1072
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,000
better, just kind of kept 
tapping along. 

1073
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,280
So I averaged for those out 
there, love their stats and all 

1074
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,160
that type of thing. 
So this is the first time I've 

1075
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,840
run pretty much any quicker than
just easy jogging around in a 

1076
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:49,080
fair while now. 
And I think we averaged still 4 

1077
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:54,160
minutes, just under 4 minutes 
for the whole, what was it, a 24

1078
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,200
minute effort? 
Yeah. 

1079
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,560
Well, 24 minutes. 
Great, So then I've been away. 

1080
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,840
They had a busy week. 
Wednesday night I'll give a 

1081
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,760
shout out to the Brisbane 
Olympics. 

1082
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,520
So this week we had a. 
Believe, belong, become. 

1083
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:10,920
You heard it. 
Did you get a right? 

1084
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,200
Did you get the media release? 
Yep, the New Meadow. 

1085
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,680
Believe belong become Brisbane 
2032. 

1086
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,880
So that's the they've. 
Stolen it from a school really. 

1087
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,560
Kings. 
Kings College in Brisbane, 

1088
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,200
That's the school motto is that.
The exact school motto. 

1089
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,800
Really, I think there's always 
the schools that have got that. 

1090
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:33,600
Really. 
Can you check? 

1091
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,160
Can you Fact Check that? 
I would say a big agency would 

1092
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,960
have done that. 
So yeah, I've been behind the 

1093
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,760
scenes. 
I've been obviously helping, you

1094
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,000
know, helping get that campaign,
you know, doing some content and

1095
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,960
helping get that campaign 
launched. 

1096
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,320
And it was a big opening night. 
And it was at Star City up in 

1097
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,880
Brizzy. 
And I'll tell you what, was it 

1098
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,160
an opening? 
You know, radio pot bellies. 

1099
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,880
Yeah, One of their songs is the 
campaign song. 

1100
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:07,400
So once, once all the. 
Not the I love it. 

1101
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,640
I think that's Pot Bellies. 
Pot Bellies. 

1102
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:10,640
What's their other song? 
Hot. 

1103
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,480
Bellies. 
I had a they they did a few 

1104
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,400
crackers. 
So they came out after all the 

1105
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,560
dignitaries got up and did their
this. 

1106
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,240
I don't, yeah. 
I think that was. 

1107
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:23,200
Is there anybody? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 

1108
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,320
something. 
So they they played, they got on

1109
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,160
the decks and they got out 
there. 

1110
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,480
They're getting a bit, that's 
awesome, a little bit old. 

1111
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,480
We all do. 
We all do, yeah. 

1112
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,280
But it was a night of so there 
was a panel. 

1113
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,960
Our friend, our sprinter Locky 
out of Brisbane. 

1114
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,800
Locky Kennedy. 
Yep, Locky Kennedy up on stage. 

1115
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,280
And Amir's, few of the mayors 
from around Queensland got up 

1116
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,080
and had had their say around 
this, their new campaign. 

1117
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:57,360
So it's exciting. 
What got me thinking though, is 

1118
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,600
because they always, you know, 
sticking camera, cameras and 

1119
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,160
microphones and trying to get 
comments on, you know, what's 

1120
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,400
believed and what's belonging 
and all, all of this. 

1121
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:11,520
And it's, I just keep coming 
back to 6 1/2 years now is such 

1122
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,560
a long time. 
What? 

1123
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,200
How many kids out there right 
now would have no ideas, no idea

1124
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,200
they're going to be in the 
Brisbane Olympics in 6 1/2 

1125
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,120
years? 
Will you tell me? 

1126
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,400
That they're out there, they're 
going to be involved in sport, 

1127
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:32,480
but there will be young kids out
there right now who have no 

1128
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:38,120
idea, but in 6 1/2 years they 
could likely be in some of those

1129
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,360
younger sports ages. 
Be right in the thick of it. 

1130
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,000
It's exciting, right? 
Yeah, I I mean the. 

1131
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,960
The reason I say that is like, 
so Locky was up there the way he

1132
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:54,240
was talking, obviously as 
athletes right now. 

1133
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,440
And you know, Matt Hauser would 
be in this same situation. 

1134
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,920
You're getting excited about 
like home games now. 

1135
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:05,440
But 6 1/2 years is so long in 
sport, so long in sport to 

1136
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,320
predict. 
Like you're thinking about it 

1137
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,640
now, but it's still so far. 
So let's let me, let me bring a,

1138
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:15,080
a, let me bring it back to the 
everyday runner who's listening 

1139
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,720
to this right now. 
On Wednesday's episode with 

1140
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,680
Benita, we talked about the 30 
week run up to the Gold Coast 

1141
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,960
Marathon. 
And Benita's saying you've got 

1142
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,480
to get out of marathon mode. 
You actually can't you, you 

1143
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:31,200
can't switch into marathon mode 
for another until April, right? 

1144
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,920
Which gives you a 14 week lead 
in. 

1145
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,520
So essentially you're saying you
got to forget about it for the 

1146
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,480
next 16 weeks. 
We take that to the Olympic 

1147
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:47,960
mode. 6 1/2 years really. 
Those athletes probably aren't 

1148
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,840
going to become you tell me if 
this is accurate. 

1149
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,200
Really. 
Those athletes in that same vein

1150
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,880
probably can't seriously start 
turning their attention to 

1151
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,760
Brisbane until, what, 2028? 
Yeah, I don't mean they've got 

1152
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,120
LA 20. 29 like for the first 
timers, for those athletes that 

1153
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,920
won't make LA because maybe 
they're not in the old enough. 

1154
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,520
Yeah, Old enough, yeah. 
Realistically, they won't be 

1155
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,720
able to seriously turn their 
attention to Brisbane until 

1156
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,960
2029. 
It's so long away, but it all, 

1157
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,520
it's all, yeah, the whole, the 
whole point. 

1158
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,560
I mean, telling the story, it's 
happening like, you know, this 

1159
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,440
is it. 
Foundation campaigns like 

1160
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,600
there's I know for a fact there 
are some sports that are 

1161
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,840
petitioning hard, like the well,
the sports that want in. 

1162
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:33,280
There was mention of I is is a 
little bit of a hot take. 

1163
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,560
It's, I mean the information's 
not there, but I believe those 

1164
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,840
sports sound like they're pretty
much being sent off. 

1165
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,560
Well, they have. 
They've already applied. 

1166
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,440
No, no, not applied. 
I mean meaning that it's now in 

1167
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,040
the hands. 
Of Oh yes, so the petitioning. 

1168
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,600
The petitioning right now is not
going to be helping. 

1169
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,160
Ohh, I see what you're saying. 
Yeah, So the ones you're saying 

1170
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,600
this is me personally talking, I
don't have any information, but.

1171
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,600
If you're a member of a games 
and organising committee, don't 

1172
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:07,240
give up on petitioning cause 
Courtney thinks it's done but. 

1173
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,640
Yeah, I think at this stage of 
petition, petitioning has been 

1174
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,960
done. 
And yeah, I'm not sure when 

1175
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,080
those results, but it'd be 
really interesting to see which 

1176
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,600
games they which games, which 
sports they do choose. 

1177
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,840
It's gonna be fascinating. 
It's gonna be fascinating. 

1178
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,160
What? 
Would be, hey, here's one good 

1179
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,240
question for you. 
What do you which is which is a 

1180
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,120
sport that you believe could be 
chosen that you think's most 

1181
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,200
left field? 
So the most left field sport for

1182
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,360
LA to me was flag football. 
Actually they got a rowing 

1183
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,000
someone was telling me the other
day. 

1184
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,240
Well, the one that's strange for
the one that's strange for LA is

1185
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,240
cricket. 
Yeah, it's, it's strange because

1186
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,000
it's an American game. 
Just bring that in. 

1187
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:50,040
Look, the the it's, I don't know
how left field this is, but the 

1188
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:56,720
one that I think should I, I, 
it's so Australian specific, but

1189
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,240
I, I, I'm in, I'm serious ocean 
racing. 

1190
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,720
And I believe they can't go in 
under Iron Man because that's a,

1191
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,560
that's a copyrighted brand that 
the triathlon owns. 

1192
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,040
So whatever title they go in 
under, Ocean, Man, Ocean, 

1193
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,880
whatever it is, that's the one, 
That's the one I love to. 

1194
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:20,120
Reckon I Well look LALA is 
baseball, softball, cricket, 

1195
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,680
flag football, lacrosse and 
squash. 

1196
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,600
Swash has been a Commonwealth is
a Commonwealth game sports 

1197
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,640
universally played, particularly
it's big with the Asian 

1198
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,440
countries as well. 
So and that's a part of it. 

1199
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,280
Whether we agree with that or 
not. 

1200
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,440
Someone was telling me and I 
think I can't remember if I said

1201
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,520
this, but I got told that the 
most watched sport at the 

1202
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,400
Olympic Games. 
What do you think the most 

1203
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,800
watched sport at the Olympic 
Games is? 

1204
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,280
This is a good one. 
What do you think the most 

1205
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,000
watched sport at the Olympic 
Games is? 

1206
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,520
Ping pong, correct? 
Table tennis because the Asian 

1207
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,880
audience. 
So cricket as an example, the 

1208
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,400
Indian audience, it's one 
country, but it makes up how 

1209
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,520
many billions of people? 
Makes up all their TV. 

1210
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,160
Right. 
So, but for me, and is it, I'll 

1211
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,760
declare my bias. 
I live here on the Gold Coast. 

1212
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,160
I work in radio on the Gold 
Coast. 

1213
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,720
I work in sports commentary here
on the Gold Coast. 

1214
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:15,520
I want Surf Life Saving to get 
in because it'll be held here on

1215
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,240
the Gold Coast. 
I love the sporting community 

1216
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,920
around Surf Life Saving and the 
the the series. 

1217
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,520
I love all of it and I want to 
see it at the Olympics because I

1218
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,600
think it would be epic. 
Just having a look if they've 

1219
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,080
got front runner sports for the.
Netball. 

1220
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,200
Netball. 
I think the the I talked this 

1221
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,440
about would be someone about 
this the other day. 

1222
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,200
Netball's tricky because my 
understanding is for a sport to 

1223
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:46,360
be granted inclusion, it needs 
to be eligible to both genders. 

1224
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,200
Now, what's interesting is that 
they don't play women's baseball

1225
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:55,720
at the Olympics, but they play 
softball because they don't play

1226
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,360
men's softball at the Olympics, 
do they? 

1227
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,760
It's baseball. 
Like, it's almost like they've 

1228
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,880
gone. 
He's a Oh yeah. 

1229
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,720
Oh, you're asking? 
Questions I could be, I could be

1230
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:05,280
wrong. 
Questions. 

1231
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,520
I don't know. 
But netball, and this is it 

1232
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,080
might be a controversial take, 
right? 

1233
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,600
I think netball should be in the
Olympics. 

1234
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,600
Believe it if they're considered
a front runner. 

1235
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,320
But I don't think there should 
be a men's competition. 

1236
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,880
Yeah, agreed. 
I'm with you there. 

1237
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,080
So 100. 
Percent, but I don't think, but 

1238
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,400
it's kind of like if it means 
that the women get a chance to 

1239
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,200
compete on the Olympic level, 
I'm OK with the men getting to 

1240
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,080
do it. 
But I don't think, you know, if 

1241
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,880
I had a choice, I'd rather 
netball just went in as a 

1242
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,640
women's only sport. 
Yeah, is is how I feel about 

1243
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,360
netball. 
The three, and this is just 

1244
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,960
purely AI, quickly having a 
look, the three sports they're 

1245
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,400
saying are seeking inclusion 
that they mentioned is life 

1246
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,880
saving. 
Like you said, touch football. 

1247
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,400
But touches massive. 
But isn't that No, no, sorry, 

1248
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,920
but isn't that flag? 
No, because TAT flags gridiron 

1249
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,280
and touches rugby. 
Style. 

1250
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,480
So I don't think I would like an
Olympics where both those sports

1251
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,960
existed. 
Well, flag won't be in the 

1252
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,920
following Flag won't be at 
Brisbane. 

1253
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,280
Oh, it won't stay. 
No. 

1254
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,120
Oh, OK. 
In that case, yeah. 

1255
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,280
Bring on. 
I love touch. 

1256
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,640
I think touch is awesome. 
Well, actually I'll tell you 

1257
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,360
about other likely sports is 
flag, but flag is pretty 

1258
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,120
American dominated. 
That's we're just I don't think.

1259
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,240
If they want to have it as an 
exhibition sport, fine, but it 

1260
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,640
can't stay. 
Yeah, but yeah, touch. 

1261
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,560
And was there another one? 
Karate. 

1262
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:35,960
OH, because I got. 
Taekwondo. 

1263
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,760
What's the difference between 
Taekwondo and karate? 

1264
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,960
Again, this is not me saying 
that they're the same thing. 

1265
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,960
I'm not but. 
I don't like you're asking 

1266
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,160
questions that I I I've got a 
Taekwondo outfit that's about 

1267
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,120
the. 
One so because Taekwondo is what

1268
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:59,160
what was her name? 
The the the female. 

1269
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,720
It's going to annoy me now. 
I've met him, Heather, But 

1270
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,560
Burns, Lauren Burns, Lauren 
Burns. 

1271
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,040
She competed for Australia in 
Taekwondo. 

1272
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,080
That's where they have the the 
targets on their chest. 

1273
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,560
Yep. 
What's karate? 

1274
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:20,720
So Taekwondo de both of them de 
emphasise grappling. 

1275
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,880
So. 
Taekwondo Taekwondo de 

1276
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,600
emphasises punching. 
Taekwondo is strictly kicking. 

1277
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,960
Yep, Karate often de emphasises 
continuous combat. 

1278
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:38,160
OK, see, I don't, I don't want 
more of the same, I think is my 

1279
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,400
point. 
I don't want more of the similar

1280
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,040
area. 
It needs to be a big enough 

1281
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,960
differentiation, which is why 
flag football stays in by the 

1282
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,920
time Brisbane turns up. 
I don't want touch. 

1283
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,760
Yeah, because it's more of the 
same. 

1284
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,840
I would rather touch over flag 
football. 

1285
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,480
I don't know how we got there, 
but my, I was off the back of my

1286
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,800
running. 
So then, so I was at the Spit. 

1287
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,680
That's where we were. 
We were at the Spit, Yeah, yeah.

1288
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,520
And then so last night I was up 
in Brizzy yesterday sitting down

1289
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,040
all day, came back through and 
thought I'll just skip in and 

1290
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,120
ring quickly and have a run. 
That's the run of yours I saw in

1291
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,800
Travel. 
So I jumped in. 

1292
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,240
By the way, few new trail shoes 
I got it the Black Friday sales.

1293
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,240
Yeah, what'd you grab? 
I'm not going to tell. 

1294
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:23,560
You yet? 
OK, there is. 

1295
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,000
I've seen a trail shoe I want to
try. 

1296
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:29,240
So here's here's what's to look 
forward to. 

1297
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:33,840
I got a trail shoe that had 
nothing to do with trail shoes 

1298
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,400
itself. 
I tried on a shoe out of a box 

1299
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,960
that I believe could be my 
favourite shoe ever. 

1300
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:41,520
Wow. 
In a. 

1301
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,560
In a. 
In a first put on a shoe. 

1302
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,760
I was in first feel first 
impression. 

1303
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:53,720
First impression, first feel of 
a shoe This is up there with for

1304
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:58,520
at least in my recent memory. 
This shoe was out of the box. 

1305
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,280
I went this I wanted to go back 
to Nerang and run in it because 

1306
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,000
it was obviously it just got 
delivered yesterday. 

1307
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,120
I come home, I did run in 
another new pair of shoes in the

1308
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,640
in the ring at the same time. 
OK, so we've got some trail. 

1309
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,000
Shoes. 
We've got some comparisons come 

1310
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,640
in and I've got, yeah, some 
trail comparisons. 

1311
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,800
On that run I went out, threw a 
pair of head, one headphone in 

1312
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,080
and then one headphone, one 
headphone. 

1313
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,880
Got around this track. 
I go normally got back. 

1314
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,880
I was just like you just said. 
I was just out enjoying running 

1315
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:26,760
again. 
Loving it. 

1316
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,120
Off average four 50s through the
trails. 

1317
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:36,640
Because you're taking it nice 
and. 

1318
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:37,320
Easy. 
I make a bit. 

1319
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,960
Yeah, I've got. 
I need to settle back down. 

1320
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,040
Calm the farm. 
So that's my conclusion of my 

1321
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,840
run week is so the body's 
feeling good. 

1322
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,440
I need to settle. 
You need to come back down. 

1323
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:47,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes too. 
OK. 

1324
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,520
Have you seen the new Nike ACG 
Zagama? 

1325
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,240
Yeah, I did. 
I sent that to my brother and 

1326
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:54,120
went. 
I didn't need this. 

1327
01:06:54,160 --> 01:07:00,440
Yeah, they look ridiculous. 
Do you know I so I've got to 

1328
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,560
check with him. 
He's got the I want to show 

1329
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,200
cause a few people have asked me
about the Zaga when I was 

1330
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:10,720
telling the story about how the 
Zagama 2, the improvement in the

1331
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,160
like, No, I could listen. 
So this is the next. 

1332
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,640
This is the so we're talking 
Solomon shoes. 

1333
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,640
This is the AG. 
What is it? 

1334
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,520
ACG? 
It's the S lab version of the 

1335
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,800
Zagama 2. 
It like it's got the cut. 

1336
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,800
Yeah, it's got the cut out of 
the shoe that looks like it's 

1337
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,640
got a bit more of a midsole 
plate in it. 

1338
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,760
Possibly they're running the 
Vibrant Soul, but it's their 

1339
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,400
elite version of the Zagama too.
I'm trying to find one of the 

1340
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,520
original Zagama so I can take 
some shots to show me, because 

1341
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:45,600
I'm getting asked about this 
idea of excuse me asking about 

1342
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:50,080
this idea of the original Zagama
had such a the fall on the side 

1343
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,760
of the zero that first cigarma 
was like going to break your 

1344
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,880
ankles and how they made such a 
small improvement to it. 

1345
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,920
But it's changed the whole shoe.
Yeah, in a positive off. 

1346
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,880
Yeah, I do want to try that. 
They they look great. 

1347
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,240
I saw them the other day and I'm
like, oh, they look, they look 

1348
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:04,720
interesting. 
How's that mate we've been 

1349
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,200
going? 
Hey, there's a lot going on. 

1350
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,800
I know we harped on it about it 
and seriously do everybody that 

1351
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,040
sent through their wrapped and 
have in the beginning as a part 

1352
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,520
of it for 2025, whether it was 
#1 or you listened once. 

1353
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,760
Thank you. 
That is the motivation we need 

1354
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,680
and and and rely on to keep 
going. 

1355
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,160
We've got some as Courtney said,
we've got some really exciting 

1356
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:29,840
stuff planned. 
Hit you again. 

1357
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:34,160
If you are signed up for the 
T100 already, go back and try 

1358
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,080
and add in the beginning podcast
as your team for the event. 

1359
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,880
If you have not signed up, go 
and sign up. 

1360
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:41,760
This 10K race in March will be 
great. 

1361
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,080
Include in the beginning podcast
as your team name and we are 

1362
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,160
working on some stuff to have 
you looking sharp for that race 

1363
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,840
come March next year. 
We will see you next one. 

1364
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:51,560
Yeah, thanks for listening.