In the beginning, episode 63, a day where we will be celebrating
Courtney. A bit later on in the episode,
the fact that the Gold Coast Marathon sold out in 24 hours.
Yeah, it we, we, I mean, we said it would.
We did it. That would if you, if you're, if
you signed up with the marathon, you haven't listened to the
midweek episode with Benita Willis, go back, check it out.
Unbelievable. Worth listening to.
We'll get that a bit later. On Well, no, yeah, let's get on
to that now. So if you haven't listened
Wednesday, it's like, what do I do?
I've ended now what do I do? And Benita gives us all the
answers. So Benita was back.
There's some people who are really excited to hear the
because we didn't tell anyone. But it was a little bit of a
surprise. Benita Willis, Lace Up Running
is her coaching business. She's back, she's on board.
We're going to be doing some work with her next year towards
the race. My wife listened to that
episode, by the way, because she got a spot in the marathon,
which is so exciting, and she started spouting off all this
stuff about. Oh, she's now you're.
Preparing for the Goal Goers marathon.
They're now the resident expert and I'm just.
Staring at her saying I I do you obviously weren't listening to
me. What I've been telling you this
was she's. And she said yeah, but when you
tell me something and then Benita Willis tells me the same
thing I'm. Gonna.
I'm gonna. Listen, I put my hands up.
That was fun, yeah. Hey, let's let's start with some
fun off the top. This one was originally shared
by Aaron, who is in the hand or not another dad bod, but plenty
of people have shared this one with us and it's called it's a
social site that's just been launched and it's flying called
the Marathon Integrity Unit. So this is so.
Good. Official unofficial time is the
handle and you want to read the mission statement for me.
Again, so that handle. If you're looking for official
unofficial time. The mission statement Our
mission at the official marathon time integrity unit is to
restore truth, accuracy and transparency to distance
running. We exist to protect the
integrity of the sport by ensuring that the times athletes
share publicly reflect the times that they actually ran.
Their purpose is to uphold the standard that chip time is the
only time to challenge the growing trend of GPS based
fabrication, selective Strava displays and false PR claims.
To educate the community on accuracy, honesty and respect
for the sport. To protect new, new and emerging
runners from being misled by influences or athletes
presenting fraudulent performances, and to celebrate
genuine achievement. Because the truth is always more
admirable than the light I love we've had.
Plenty of these questions love. I take my chip time, do I not?
Well, here's a sight just purposely driven to.
Corp this is they have made a commitment.
Now it's easy to set up this site, right?
It's easy to come out and say these things and declare these
values. They go on to make their
commitment and they say their commitment is that they will
continue to review, investigate and report discrepancies without
bias, personal targeting or exceptions.
We do not shame, we simply reveal the truth.
We do not speculate, we analyse evidence.
We do not protect egos, we protect the sport.
I love this. Like this could be my favourite.
It's come late in the peace, we've only got a month or so
late or less than a month left to go.
But it could be my favourite Instagram account of 2025 for a
year. I can.
See, like I said, like Andy Buchanan's in there, Jen, Jen
Davies from Red Bull's in there following.
So they've they've made it. This is.
The the final go and check this out.
There's a great final slide up that they say chip time is
greater than Strava time, which is greater than ego.
Always has been, always will. Hey, off the back, I'm just
looking at this story from today and we don't need to say who it
is, but there's a fella on there that has said he's obviously
posted his result in maybe it looks like Berlin Marathon.
They've called him out, said, hey, we've checked the official
results and it's not, it's not adding up here.
So 399 to 3782 minute discrepancy, but but they go one
step further. Why did they get blocked?
They've made the comment and then suddenly they blocked off
his account. Has this been happening to
others? You know, they're not, they're
not stopping at one step here. No, this is deep investigation.
I think, I think you can expect to see plenty of people blocking
this site, but what I would this is there's a level of
seriousness to it, but there's a level of humour to it as well.
Yeah, I think this is going to be a really fun follow along.
At the same time, I would say to people that if they, if I agree
with what they're saying as far as you know, running, I don't
think it needs protection. But you and I have a bit of a
laugh about the influence and nature of that running has
become. And then we have had it thrown
back in our faces by some people saying you guys are running
influencers and we may be, but not in the sense of the the type
of content that gets put out there by some running
influencers yet. Yeah, it might, it might be on
the way The but I love the idea that this account has been made
to protect the authenticity of of marathon times and half
marathon times and distances run and all the rest of it.
I think if you follow this for what it will be, enjoy the.
So we're not just picking on runners here.
Like as a a long time professional triathlete before
we started chatting, all this running triathlon is notoriously
short on their run courses, right?
But it never stops a triathlete saying, hey, for 10K it is a
chip time, right? But I don't think there's ever
been a triathlon that he's actually the right distance.
Well, I can't wait for for somebody, for one of the podcast
listeners to jump on the anonymous tip form line of this
account and dub one of us in for something that we might have run
in. Sure.
I'm sure we've done something.
Hey, but back to Gold Coast Marathon.
Amazing that it like sold out so quick.
It's sold out. I saw AI didn't have a chance to
put it in here, but I saw a little kind of, you know, a
little bit of good bit of marketing, whoever shared it.
But the Hobart Marathon posted pretty much, hey, we know a lot
of people have missed out on the Gold Coast Marathon, but hey,
you smart, we've got the Hobart Marathon to come down to.
And look, that's all a part of it, right?
If you if you have missed out on the Gold Coast every once or
half try. We said it in the midweek
episode, jump on the white list. There will be other
opportunities to enter over the coming 30 weeks.
Because one thing, as sure as the sun comes up in the morning,
there will be injuries, there will be withdrawals.
Don't don't get involved with. If anybody tries to sell you
their entry on Facebook, just ignore it.
You are not going to be able to like don't I?
I would discourage people. Is there a scam?
Oh, there's yeah, yeah. And we've hit the point of
concerts, right? And festivals where you know
scammers will try and take your money because of the demand for
this race. Don't.
Just don't. The only way you're going to get
a legit entry into this race is through the official channels.
I would strongly discourage anybody who's trying to find a
dodgy way into the race. Jump on the wait list, keep an
eye out on set up your alerts for the Gold Coast ASICS, Gold
Coast Marathon accounts and Instant Social and all the rest
of that. If the The safest way to this
marathon, if you haven't already got in, is.
I'm glad. I'm glad you know you're on top
of that one. But my brother in law is in and
my wife are in. So my wife and her brother are
both running. They're really, really excited.
Like it's I've got a host of people from Sydney who are
coming up to be a part of it. Someone actually an apologies I
don't have the details to hand, but we we're at this point now
with running where these entries are so scarce and important, but
there are always not loopholes but workarounds.
My understanding, and I might get some of this wrong, is that
had you entered the Toowoomba event, Toowoomba Marathon which
is run by the Which? Is also run by.
By EMC, you actually got preference.
Preference for the Gold Coast Marathon.
Now, I'm not encouraging people to do this, but apparently like
the cost to run that, you know, if you're prepared to just take
the hit. Oh.
No, Jake. Hey, hey, please call out Liam.
And as an influencer, everyone please, please do.
No, no, no. But that's the thing, if you,
you know there's always work around.
So if you go run the Toowoomba event.
Yes, go and run the Toowoomba event.
Support the Toowoomba event. Support the Toowoomba event.
Yeah, and then you can get early access to the the Gold Coast
event. Yeah, anyway, T100.
Yes. So a bit of an update because we
are getting called out hard here on entries.
In fact, we didn't have a team. So I have investigated and from
my understanding and we're going to do, we're still going to go
back a little bit. But for the moment, if you do
enter just the team will be in the beginning podcast, OK, So
just the name in the beginning podcast right when I ended,
that's what I've put in. You don't have to.
There's no selections down menu as far as retrospectively going
and putting that in. We're still looking.
We're still. Looking to it, but if you're
really keen go back in the entry, try and have a look and
there might be. I'm pretty sure you can edit
your details. Brett, I think is someone who's
Brett Donaghy, big fan of the podcast and who has been on
board early days. I know he's entered and he was
trying to find a team name. So Brett, go back in, see if you
can add in the beginning podcast as your team name for your T100
entry. Let us know how you go so we can
pass that on. Again, reminder for everybody,
if you miss Benita during the week, that T100, that 10K event
in March is the perfect bridging event, right?
We Benitas talked about you've got 30 weeks until the Gold
Coast Marathon. You obviously can't go into
marathon mode now. You need to plan out this next
30 weeks. You shouldn't be approaching
your marathon block until April, which means you need to find
events that are going to bridge that gap.
This March T110K race is a again, this is not my thoughts.
These are the thoughts of the greatest distance run of this
country ever produced. Benita Willis that that 10K
event in March is a perfect one to build towards.
Then you've got other events. Yeah.
But you can include in your training. 100% and that's what,
well, that's what she suggested for me straight off the bat.
Straight off the bat, I ended. So you're, yeah, you're in T100.
I'm in. I'm in the 10K for T. 100, Yeah.
What? OK, You didn't you weren't
prepared to say it about your marathon time.
Yeah, I don't. Oh, you tell me when you're
ready to say that. OK, 10K time T100.
Same same answer. Lee no, come on, you can't go
predicting time. What would you like?
What time would make you happy? What?
10K time in March next year at
the T100, The first time I. Understand the answer is
nothing's gonna make me happy, Lee, because that's so true.
I I'm not gonna run. That's so true.
The last time I ran the actually the only time.
Here's a story. The only time I've run the 10
kilometre race at the Gold Coast Marathon event.
Now I have no idea what year it was.
OK, I came second. Oh, I was beaten at the time by
the Australian 10K record holder Ben Saint Lawrence.
He goes, OK, yeah. And I believe I might have run
3030 minutes and 10 seconds. And I think he's just cracked
the 30. This is pretty super shoes, boy.
I'll put my, I'll put my asterisk on there.
But yeah, so it was Benny Saint Lawrence.
I remember. Well, that's the only reason I
remember the run is because I got beaten by Benny and then he
went on to break the Australian record.
That is, I believe could be the last time I've run a 10K timed
run. So to answer your question, what
would I be happy with? 2008 Gold Coast This is about
when it was the Gold Coast airport OK race.
You ran the Southern Cross University 10K run still the
southern. They've been on that for.
Yeah, good on your Southern Cross University.
It was still the Southern Cross University 10 kilometre run
males 25 to 29 category. You ran a 3014.
That's 4 seconds off a light get.
Get the integrity unit out here please.
It actually says you came third overall.
I didn't get third. You get you came second in your
category, so obviously racing against Ben there, but it
actually says you came third overall.
I reckon there was a wonky time in, but a integrity unit just
called it wrong. Do you know what else you did
that that you came, you came seventh in the city to surf that
year. You're right, you came fifth in
the bridge to Brisbane. Sorry, no, I'm getting the years
confused. I've gone back to that was 2007.
Yeah. Anyway, results.
Who you stopped living in the past, Liam.
You asked me. You asked me.
I. Love nothing more than being
able to Google your name and look at your how fast you used
to run back in the day. As a triathlete, 'cause that was
my day job. That's what I mean.
You came. Oh yeah.
I ran all right for a for a triathlete.
I'm real good look. You asked my time, what would
make you happy? Every PB would make me happy.
But. What's your PB?
Probably that's 3018. Well I'm just saying I haven't
run a 10K that's the last 10 Ki can recall running.
So you wanna break 30 minutes? You wanna break 30 minutes?
Let's just say it You wanna break 30 minutes?
I would love to break 30 minutes if your time can.
I break 30 minutes if your time started.
With a 2 would you have a smile on your face of.
Course you would, OK, but I'm not gonna say that, Liam,
because. So I I.
Because I haven't run a 10K since 2008.
I don't think there's anything wrong.
This is where you and I differ significantly.
You are very much like, let's wait until the ink is completely
dry on something before we even announce it.
My my like as soon as I have a thought I think we should it's
OK, but. But we will be at the the the
more obvious is we're at the team 100.
We'll be running in the beginning podcast.
Yep, is the team name if you want to join.
The goal is by then we might have something for everyone to
have a run in if you want to join in.
Oh yeah, yeah, we're trying to find some pieces.
We're not going to give way too much on that A.
Uniform, put it that way. Yep.
So it'll be exciting and yeah, we're looking for that.
Getting on to this is I've had I just, you just saw me.
I'm on the Red Bulls. You are on the Red Bulls, yeah.
At in early morning Red Bulls at the moment with you on a Friday,
Liam, because it's been a hell of a, a hell of a week.
But I was sitting in Brisbane, you know, we're on daylight
savings time up here in Greece. I was on Sydney time yesterday
and I had to get it up to Brisbane early to an office.
So I was sitting in a cafe in the middle of some industrial
area, I don't know where, 5:30 in the morning and I got the.
The beautiful the. Beautiful, one of my favourite
times of the year. I got spammed with the Spotify
yearly wrap up and also the Strava yearly wrap up I.
Haven't checked my Strava so I. Think I've been given my Strava
early as a. Because you're a.
Pro, right, yeah, I think they've given certain people
early access, which feel free to call us out as a as you know,
getting a special, special thing.
Yeah, see, look I've had. You've been given a year in
sport already. I reckon what they want to do is
ask to get out there on the forefront and start sharing it.
And then I don't like that. I actually believe everyone
should just get it at the one side.
Well, I can. You should wait before you share
yours. Let's do when?
Wait till I have mine. You don't have to.
You don't have to tell me to wait.
I won't share mine. Now you will share yours.
Of course you will I. Won't share mine?
Why not? Let's go, go and if you want
look at what I do go and follow my Internet going.
What is it this? No, we need to talk about us.
Us have a rap. We can talk about it on the
podcast. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, sharing it. I'm not gonna post.
It, I mean, I know you, I mean, you need to don't talk about it
yet. Yeah, talk about when I've got
mine. We have, but what we are News
Face, everyone got their Spotify, their personal one.
We're going to talk about our ages, what music we listen to
after this. But first I want to get into
because we get a back end one from the podcast as well.
The one thing that stood out most is we got our listener
base. So our great listener base that
are out there each week with us. I know your music choices.
This is fair. I now I don't know this Courtney
has seen this data. I have not can I say before you
get into this big shout out to Benny to Adsi to I've had so
many people message me to say that in the beginning was their
number one podcast the. Oh, and through all the
Instagram messages that come through and sharing our podcast,
yeah, it's amazing. So thank you.
But here's where it's back on our you, you the everyone.
We're we're talking. As you run along this morning.
As you run along. OK, from our listener base, what
would be at the number one song or even let you have the artist
Liam, because songs are quite hard.
To choose 20/20/20. 25 From our listener base, what is the
number one song an artist they listen to?
I'm going to say the number one song in 2025 for our audience
was Jelly Rolls Liar. Jelly Roll didn't make the top
five. I just thought maybe because we
had, we had. We have got we've got some
country. So Zach.
Zach. Bryan, Zach Bryan.
Number two, yeah. Luke Combs Luke Combs #4 Morgan
Mullen, You're. You're you're are.
You amused? It's probably.
Like a working radio. You so they were number 2-3 and
four. OK, now number one and five are
the most outlying. Can I?
All right, let me let me throw some at you.
I'm gonna just throw a couple of artists at you.
Olivia Dean by any chance? Factor.
I don't know who that is. OK.
She's not. She's had a very big year.
Did Oasis crack it? No.
With the Oasis resurgence? No.
Give me a clue. I'll go to number 5 for you.
I'll let everyone. I'm gonna leave her at hand,
Fred again. Oh yeah, OK.
I mean I maybe I added, not that I'd probably.
Be a big fan of Fred again. Yeah, but I'm thinking I'm
probably not on our audience. List is that a tad yeah, but OK
good good running is the is the music number one artist is it is
it modern is it old school is it it's.
Pretty much one of the. I'm going to give you a hint.
OK, let's Taylor Swift. It was Swifty, yeah.
Can you believe? Do you know how I picked that?
The way you rolled your eyes? Can you?
Believe. Who is massive?
Who is listening? She's massive mate, please.
She's massive. Who?
I mean, I'll tell you what, do you know the good?
Obviously we've got a decent female audience or you and we, I
think guys out there running to. Taylor Parents.
Parents last. Year you reckon that they're on
the. Last year, last year, I was my
Spotify rapped. I was a top 2% listener globally
of Taylor Swift because my daughter every day on the way to
school made me listen to Taylor Swift.
So I, I was like in the in the top 2% of Taylor Swift listeners
on Spotify globally. So much so that if you listen
to, if you make that list, you get a special message that
they've recorded. I had a special, special message
from Taylor Swift because every day on the way to school, Quinn
was making me listen to Taylor Swift songs.
Maybe that's maybe that's. I would say that, yeah, great.
I hope we've got a lot of young women listening to the podcast
who love their running and have been got involved with the
running boom and they're listening to us and then they're
listening to Taylor Swift. I I also think we'd probably
have a lot of parents with young kids who are using their
Spotify. Account so then and then OK so I
nearly spat my coffee out by the way at this cafe when I read it
was early and I was like what some.
Of the early stuff, this most recent album, Not great running
music. Some of the early stuff's good
running music. Courtney is shaking his head.
Sorry. It is.
Sorry, Taylor's got some. Do you know?
Actually, it's funny you mention this because we'll go back to
the Rapt in a second. I was running yesterday and I'm
going to, I'm gonna do AI wanna. I came up with an idea for a
reel that I'm gonna make. Yeah.
Which is me running to all the songs that I never get to play
on the radio station that I work in, 'cause I was listening.
Tell us. About that 'cause you said, I
remember after we interviewed Jelly Roll, you said, I don't
care what, what the producer says, I'm playing Jelly Roll.
Did you? Yeah, get to play with.
Yeah, I played Jelly Roll. I think I played Jelly Roll Liar
on the radio. So and they were cool with that.
To pull back the curtain a little bit, the gone are the
days where of call up and request a song.
It's just not how it works anymore.
For the most part. There is a computer algorithm
that picks the songs. All the songs get tested on the
audience like like hey, what do you think of this song?
What do you think? So there is testing done and
there's a skill and there's an art form to it, but rarely do
the people on air actually get to dictate the songs that are
being played. So there's a like yesterday.
What was I was running to the Verves lucky man yesterday,
which is a cracking Zama lucky and you'd.
Never be able to play and. Well, we might, but we just
don't play it. There's just a lot of music I
don't get to hear a lot. So I was running along to that.
I'm like, this is a great song. Hip hop, I don't get to, we
don't get to play. Hip Hop.
So I'm gonna make it. Not triple, not triple M's main
choice, is it? Although electronic, they could
do work. There's a lot of country songs
that we don't. Get We'll get to the country.
Yeah, in a moment, pulling back that curtain.
Can you tell it how's it work with, how's it work with music
licencing on you? So, like, if you play Jelly, you
play a Jelly roll. Yeah.
Are you paying a licencing fee every time you pay that song?
We have to pay a fee to what's it called, ACMA.
ACMA, I was going to say EMRA. Australian Commercial I've been.
Across this a little bit. Yeah, there's a fee.
You have one of my first. Jobs, well, sorry, I'll jump in,
but even one of the biggest things that surprised me, if you
were like a larger corporate office and you're playing music
in your office, you're meant to be paying a licence.
What when I worked at, when I worked at a surf store in
Adelaide when I was at uni, we had a company that dictated our
music and we had to only play that because we were paying a
fee to play that and we played any other music it would incur a
different fee. One of my first job was the
radio station Early Doors, like talking like 12 years ago.
I had to sit there on AMS DOS style computer programme and
they, the system had had missed a bunch of songs throughout the
last financial year or whatever. And so the ACMA phase were off
or something like that. And so I literally had to spend
like a week going through and manually ticking off these songs
on this computer programme. So yeah, it's the the, the songs
are the songs that we play for a reason.
Yep. But yeah, there's some.
There's a lot of great music. Getting it by get into country
then. So those three you guessed and
they're the country stars. Country I because I I knew
country was popular at the moment, but I didn't think if
you took a a running audience predominantly yeah.
And said, what are you, you know, what are three of the main
songs out of that audience? They come to that country.
Well, I think this is and and we will get into some more.
This is all running base, but we'll get into some more.
You're running as well. We're running people what you're
listening to. I think this arcs back to or
this, this speaks a little bit to something you and I've talked
about. Remember, we had a conversation
many, many, many months ago on the podcast about the money
involved with surfing. And you gave me that incredible
insight, which is that back in the heyday of Parker and Kelly
and all these guys and Mick and the money for the surfers was
generated out of the clothing apparel.
Now that market of the middle aged people that used to buy the
Billabong T-shirts and the board shorts and the RIP Girls and the
Quicksilvers and everything had pivoted and that is now an
audience or a market that is they've gone by Ringers Weston
and Harriet and these sort of country brands.
I think this is a reflection of that change of market as well.
Whereas years gone by when bands like Friends Will Roam and that
kind of surfing counterculture music might have been appealing.
As they change their clothes, they also change their music.
And instead, you know, while they wear Harriet and Ringers
West and they also run to, you know, the the pop country stuff,
the Zac Bryan and the Luke Combs and all the rest of that.
I'm just impressed, you know, Harriet.
Oh yeah, I know. You you know your country brands
better than you do now. Streaming.
Running brands. I do actually, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So this is the do. Do you have more data out of our
our Strava, our Spotify Rap keeps?
Sorry, I was, I was enjoying our chat on this.
No, it keeps it's it's yeah. So I mean, obviously everyone
gets their this Spotify rap and that the podcast back into the
podcast 1's probably a little bit different, but the three
other. So this is more just thanking
everyone listening who's been listening to us every week. 3 of
the big stats that come through that are stoked on was we
actually got called a 2025 marathon show.
Now that's got nothing to do with running.
It's complete coincidence. But fans that listened.
Now, obviously size of podcasts matter in this of course, but
fans that listen to you for fans listen to In the beginning
podcast for longer than 99% of other shows.
So those thank you, thank everyone who's listening to us,
the retention of you hanging out with us and we you know, we
often go on tangents away from running.
Yeah, like right now you hang with us.
Yep, amazing. Thank you.
A top 1% on Spotify of shared podcasts.
Oh, wow. So thank you again.
Well done audience in sharing it.
And then finally, in the top 1%, I've talked about podcasts.
That's amazing. That's amazing.
So thank you. That's the warm and fuzzies.
That's so cool. We'll Yeah.
Well done to every thank. Not well done.
Thank you. That's what genuinely Courtney
and I, this started because we enjoyed the conversations we
were having. We weren't sure if anybody else
would to get that kind of feedback in data as it we the
anecdotal support we've received throughout the year.
I will never forget the feeling on the finish line of the Gold
Coast Marathon, the amount of people that were like coming up
and saying hi, shouting out, saying thank you.
That for me anecdotally, was reason just to keep doing this
podcast. If even if we did nothing else
didn't didn't go on any other adventures, didn't do any other,
you know, partnership sponsorships, anything like that
didn't make anything else that reason alone.
Those people coming up and anecdotally just saying, hey,
I've been listening, thanks so much.
And seeing them finish a race, yeah, was reason enough to hear
this information. Now, at the end of a a year like
this just gets me so excited to keep going and.
Has there been one particular person or someone you know that
you run into and they've said they listen and you is kind of
like, well, why? Well, well, I kind of surprised
you. I'll.
I'll tell you a a quick story. Two weeks ago or a week and a
half ago, I got a call from, I got a message and email from the
Cairns radio station asking me, hey, the AFLW grand finals on
this weekend, it's Lions V Kangaroos.
Can we give you a call to talk to you about it on the show?
And of course I said absolutely no worries.
And so Tammy and JB, which is the breakfast show in Cairns
called me up. We we chatted about the AFL
grand final and then we finished recording and then Tammy said,
hey, Liam, I listen to your podcast with Courtney and I was
like, she said she's a friend of yours.
And I was blown away because I saw, I didn't think anybody
within our radio station network knows about the podcast like
some of them do, because some of them run and some of them do
listen. But I didn't think somebody up
in Cairns knew about the podcast, let alone listen.
Yeah, well, shout out to Tammy. I mean, she, I've known her from
years, but she actually does, obviously with that radio and
presenting background, does the same job you do on the MC for
Iron Man being all around the world, at least around Asia.
Yeah, it's calling Finish lines. For, but I had, I had one at the
Gold Coast Marathon earlier this year where someone came up to me
at the end as they were finishing and said, Liam,
faster, not longer, like, 'cause when we had that little catch
phrase for a minute there, well, it's, it's still there.
Yeah. Like, I get that one.
Why people called out now that you're going to do a Miley,
you've absolutely rooted that. Well, no 'cause I'm running it
faster. No.
So, yeah, the the the fact that all this information is coming
in that it's not just the way we feel about the podcast, but it's
the way that you people who are listening feel about it as well.
Very, very excited for 2026. Have you got anything more from
Rapt? No, because I've got something I
want to. See, let's get on to.
This I want to just have you got running.
I just quickly on my rap, my Spotify rapt top five artists
for No, I'm just going to tell you mine because there is a real
stand out. Yeah, no.
Well, I think I'm interested. So my number one artist was
Mumford and Sons. They had a new album that came
out this year that I just fell in love with and listened to a
lot. Gee, that's, that's I didn't
run. It's not running music.
This is not my running music. Jack Johnson was #2 OK, Post
Malone was in at 4. Oasis was in at 5:00.
But the number three artist on my top five movie was Hugh
Jackman, because, and this is. Now can I take a guess on this?
Oh yeah, go for. It greatest showman bang.
I've been there my kids. I've been there my.
Kids three of the songs of that album for the greatest Showman
soundtrack, 3 songs were in my top five most listened to songs.
This is why you knew about and this.
Is why I think the tailors. I I remember when, when my son
was that age, The greatest showman, I think we went, I was
on a may have even been during COVID by some chance the back
end of COVID. I went on a road trip, went from
Goldie, drove all the way out, spent Christmas at Edge Rock,
Uluru and then went all the way down the coast through Cuba PD,
out W camp and got down to your neck of the where you come from
neck of the woods in SA and come all the way back.
I've got a feeling it was that trip.
I reckon I listened to The Greatest Showman about probably
half the time. How old was your listening age?
How? 23. 23 What are you listening to
that's ageing you to 23? Because I was 38, yeah.
I'm gonna I'm trying to find my 23 chatting.
I'm just. Listening to the wheels.
I'm. Trying 23 that is, that is.
Unbelievable. It's trying to find my rapt.
Why is it keep keep chatting? I'm going to find these.
Courts Courtney's searching through his rap.
Hey, while Courtney is searching through that, we have a little
bit Oh, here we go. There you go.
You found it. Oh, so you got a bit of this You
got OK so it's all the Fred again stuff that's ageing you
down. Gotcha.
But my top song was why can't? Why doesn't it tell you who
they? I reck I'm going to try
listening a bit of Fred again. Give me who?
What do you reckon my top song would have been?
Something by Fred again? No, sorry.
Probably some country. No, it was actually.
Oh, no, there's a, there's a song.
You've told us before what that song that you love running to
most is. It's a it's a 360 song.
Yeah, the 360. No, my my top song was Down
Under really man, down on. But it was a techno version like
a like was an electronic version.
Land down on yeah, land down on the Techno Ocean.
That's why you're ageing down, because you're embracing all.
That royal. Odours.
Royal Otis. Number one, awesome.
They were in my top. Good neighbours, good
neighbours. Up there, OK, yeah.
So I think now's in a good time. We've just talked about how much
we appreciate the support of the audience.
IA little bit of news for everybody out there.
It's not just Courtney and I that feel good about the Bogas.
It's not just you, the people listening to it who are saying
that it's good. Courtney We are a an Award
nominated podcast. Thank you ever we.
The in the beginning has. At the Gold Coast Triple M.
Is this the? Triple M Gold.
Coast No No Courtney in the beginning, is a finalist for the
2025 Australian Sports Commission Media Awards.
Sports Commission. Yeah, we we have been
shortlisted as one of the five finalists for the Best Sport
podcast of 2020. Five OK, so my my immediate
question is who else? Like what kind of podcast?
So we are we are going up against the podcast that won
last year, which is the Final Word Cricket podcast.
We're Backcourt, which is a Netball Australia podcast, ABC
Sport Daily by the ABC, Sportish by Libby Trickett, OK and her
sister Georgie Trickett, and then in the beginning by Liam
Flanagan and Courtney Atkinson. So we are our finalists.
So next February we will be headed to the SCG for the awards
night. All the big.
Swinging will we? That's news to me.
Yeah, we're off. We we get to go down there for
an awards night. We'll be suited and booted.
I think Bruce McMahon is receiving some big award there
on the night and you and I will hopefully be bringing home a
trophy. Trophies against ABC.
I'll tell you what, I'd be disappointed if we lost ABC.
Can I say that? You can I've I've lost this
award before. I did a podcast in a previous
life that also made the final. And you lost it to ABC.
Now who? Did I lose to I lost to narrowly
Meadows. Narrowly, Meadows had a podcast
that. It's a government organisation,
you know, they're skewed towards, they don't like
private, they don't like private.
We are being judged on the quality of our work.
Courtney Atkinson. Not well.
That could be another another. Issue.
Yeah, Anyway, good news, Yeah, very good news.
Just jumping into some running. Can I thank everybody because
the amount of people that have reached out offering to help me
with the Mylar? You're sort after, aren't you?
Yeah. I don't know, you know, whether
it's a good thing or a bad thing that they think, look at me as
a, as a charity case that really needs the help or as a project
that they can mould into their own.
I hope you just see coat tails that you can jump on because I'm
going to go so well. But no, thank you.
There's been so many people reach out and offer help and
support and I'm going to get back to you all.
I, I will take all the help and support that's being offered to
me at the moment. And, and can I also say one more
thing, guys, Reedy is a friend. He's very much on my side.
What did you do was. This.
I had a few people reach out saying oh stuff ready and I'm
like no. Concerned for you?
Mental.
Health ready? He's just being ready.
He's just being the pragmatic, practical person he's being.
He's he's, he's trying to keep my feet firmly on the ground
about he did. It in a more direct way than I
did. Yeah, exactly.
Ready is very much of the Courtney Atkinson School of
Running and approach to running. I'm off with the fairies
thinking life's great, everything's going to be a piece
of cake. So Ready is very much in my
corner. But just one of those realistic
voices that is good for you to have if you're if you're
tackling anything like this, Milo Challenge is presenting
well. Tell us about your running.
What's going on? So I'm, I'm feeling really good.
I'm loving the gym work. My legs feel very strong.
Strava just I'm going to jump around here.
No, because I think I've, you know how we've talked about
Strava and the growth of Strava and the development of Strava
privatise or the pub, the public listing of Strava that's been
reported as well. I think I've figured out a
natural addition evolution, whatever you want to call it for
Strava, because right now for anybody that does have the paid
subscription service, when you run, it provides AI analysis.
Yeah, it provides, it gives you a little a synopsis.
It what does it call it? Athlete intelligence.
Right now I went for a run. I'll, I'll, I'll do this.
I'm going to be pretty blunt. It's pretty useless.
So, well, this is my point, right?
I went for a run on the other day and I saw Maddie Hauser
actually going. Now that it's funny, since I've
since we had Matt Hauser on this show, I see him everywhere.
Like he lives nearby to me. But I have seen him everywhere
since we did. He did he.
Yeah. He gave me a wave.
Well, we're running the other way, thankfully.
OK, but let me read you this. Athlete intelligence.
And I wanted just you listen to what Shrava gave me and you try
and predict what I did, if that makes sense.
Sure. Is the athlete intelligence from
Shrava from my run. A speedy run with kilo final
kilometres hitting your fastest pace of the month and crushing
some intense intervals. This run was a solid
performance, significantly faster than your 30 day average
pace. Your heart rate distribution
shows a strong effort, with nearly 55% of time spent in
tempo and threshold zones. The activity featured impressive
interval work with quick paces during one minute and 92nd
intervals that demonstrate good speed and intensity.
Jesus a fair. Bit in that.
Yeah. Talk.
Talk about social media skewing your mind on your talk and
running, that's what what. Did you hear out of that?
Well, the fact it's picking up, there's repetitions in there.
You must have been doing some type of over under or some type
of repetition work. I'm thinking and then, but
knowing what the AI often does on Strava, were you did you
build your run? That was a Mona.
Session right in the.
First, you're right in the yeah, But here's what, and this is
where I think, because what I think where Strava needs to or
can go to, should go to, should be looking to arrive at.
There are universal truths in running like Mona is a universal
session. Yes.
Strava should be able to see that.
Yeah, you think it should not? Strava should be able to review
that run and go. This is a Mona session and and
provide the feedback appropriately or or you know
that that's where that AI element of Strava, that's where
that the benefit of Strava having purchased runner this
training programme, that's that evolution.
I would love to see them arrive at which is where they can
observe and analyse a session that you've done and be able to
actually bring running intelligence to it.
Yeah. Does that make sense?
Sorry, I just got a message from Benita of all people.
Saying Liam, don't listen to Strava.
I should not be. She can.
She's obviously hurt you. That was a shit session.
Don't listen to Strava. It's like I should have been
checking my phone in the middle of time.
What are you doing? Running Mona, you're meant to be
resting. She's listening.
No, you know what I'd want to hear from her talking about AI
and Strava. What I'd want to hear is I agree
it should pick up manas, but it should then give you practical
advice to say, hey, this is an improvement in your manas.
Maybe you should think about doing this session to build on
your fitness. Or maybe you could tack on this
next time. Or if it goes the opposite way
and you're you, it can see your heart rates high and you're up.
It could, you know, might say, I can see you've had a tough day.
Hey, but. The weather was 30° and the
humidity, it's probably don't worry about it too much.
It's the weather next week, come back that's practical.
Because for anybody that's used ChatGPT for anything out there,
ChatGPT is eternally optimistic and positive.
Yep, there it is really hard to get a, a real true critique of
anything you're doing from ChatGPT.
I've actually tried to ask it to make some right, some negative
jokes before and it it wasn't prepared, basically said no.
And that's where to your point, Strava, that AI intelligence
part of it, that athlete intelligence, that feedback,
that critique, it needs to be more.
Critical, honestly, right at the moment.
I mean, they're probably, if it's true AI, it's obviously a
train, It's probably training. It's whatever you want to call
it, Brain. Yeah, but right at the moment,
just don't even bother showing it's.
It's nothing more than a pat on the bum.
It's useless. Yeah, it is, absolutely.
It's a cheerleader. It's not even, it's just just
take it off until you get it to a point that it's always
worthwhile. Hey, there's been, I'm talking
about AI. There's been because I've done a
few trips to Brisbane this week which are 4 hour round trips
these days, you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, it's going. Up and back.
There's been plenty of podcasts, things on back.
All the bigger US podcasters have been really into the AISAI
stuff lately. And just, you know, the whole
notion of, you know, the end of the world.
Like, what is it gonna be? Yeah.
You don't want to listen to too much of that stuff.
Nah. They talk about getting, you
know, down on things. Yeah.
You don't want to be thinking. About it.
So Strava, get rid of it. Yeah, get rid of it.
It's something we don't need. Now I've got a question for you
because going back to my running, I did a mono session
for, by the way, we I've been through this phase before for
people that have been in the scene for a while where you do
enough easy runs and I've just been kind of ticking my legs
over of like averaging kind of 40 to 50 KS a week just to keep
my legs rolling over. But it's all been kind of easy
or it's been up in the trails. And if you do those for long
enough and avoid speed, it, it can be intimidating to go out
and do a speed session. That mono session is one of my
favourite sessions I've done for a while.
Like and it wasn't, it wasn't overly taxed like it wasn't a
hard session, sorry. Where?
Where did you do? It I just did it out the front
on the flats, yeah of of where I'm, I mean on the South end of
the coast. But my average pace of over the
I did a little over 10K's at 442 is as quick of average pace over
10K as I've had for a very. Long time.
So you go. You're moving well.
I had a great, I had a great run and then yesterday I had a
really easy, like deliberately, I ran an average of 520 pace for
11 KS, like deliberately, really slow.
Tried to really focus on just cruising and that run felt
great. So I woke up the this morning
off the back of that run feeling amazing.
Body feels really good this weekend though, and this is what
I want to talk to you about. I want to go up Paige's
Pinnacle. Cool, How do I?
Are you asking me to take you? How do I do it?
No, you don't have to take it, but how do I do it?
I would love to no we. And do you know what's to blame?
We're going to come full, full circle here on influences.
Who was bloody Maddie Poole? No, I've never met Matt.
He seems like a great fella. Iron Man, one of the crew there,
you know, he's he's he failed to qualify for this year's series.
So he's but he does some commentary work and I love, I
love, man. What?
Was he doing up at pages? So he was up there he's done a
sponsored post for the Oakley meta glasses, the new Oakleys
that have come out with the glasses in the front and he's
done this real and he's he's sold me hey, because he's.
Sold on pages or the glasses? Oh, he's actually it was a
sponsored post for Oakley's meta glasses, not for pages pinnacle,
but he's at the top there and saying hey.
Looking over the side or. Something, hey, what's the
elevation up here and all that sort of stuff?
Yeah. And then I was like, I want to
go around that. I've got to have a look, yeah.
I want to go around that I. Can't imagine Matt being too
coordinated to get across pages properly.
No, no, I say that not in a, not in a Shots fine.
Not in a in any bad way. There is no other way, water
guy. There is no other way to
criticise someone's coordination.
No, no, no, I don't mean it. I would be happy to be
criticised in the water myself. I don't mean it in a negative
way, but you looked really uncle going.
Because I know he's a Waterman. He's a Waterman.
And Paige's, I think I told this story.
I took the monster NFL Australian NFL player.
I can't remember. Yeah, I took him up there.
I've taken plenty of people up the pages because the Ridgeline
depends on which way you go. There's two options, OK, you can
get across the first like Ridgeline and it's not vertical
down, so it's not crazy, but it's enough that if you're a
little bit scared of heights or a bit worried of your footing,
it's not the easiest place to get across.
There's a little bit you got to, you know, probably 3 points of
contact, climb across or you can duck under, walk along kind of
the edge of underneath the first Cliff and get around.
So I never know how people are getting out there, but I've
taken a few people across that top Ridge and it's not like you
want to be sure of your footing. The reason I say, and I'm not
having to go Maddie, but. He's he's a big water guy.
He's a big guy. He's a big water guy.
He can run though. He runs, he runs.
He runs really well, but he's a tall, big guy, big feet.
I just can't imagine him getting across pages like, like really,
really, you know, running across, running across pages,
Yeah. So where do you cause yeah, well
like is it do you go same path up from Springbrook?
Like is that your access point or do you go from in boomerang
farm kind of way? We can go both ways.
It's definitely a longer slog to come from what they call Pollys
down the bottom there, which would be the Springbrook way.
You're thinking there's a loop you can go around and run there,
but it's a tough old loop. Well, hey, I reckon.
The more basically what I'm looking for and as look, as I
said, I've had a really great Mona set this week.
I've had a nice easy run where I just just kept what do you.
Just want to walk up there to see it.
I know I wanna I'm looking for, I'm having a great time out in
the border trail, right? I've also I had a great single
trail like you, Courtney and I went out for a run around the
border trail whenever we did and I basically knew the fire track.
Yep. And you said to me there's a
whole whole heap of single trails down there and then I ran
it with a neighbour the other week and now I'm just going to
be running single trails through there.
It's amazing through there. So there's.
This is what I say. I know I shouldn't say.
I'm not going to say it. No, no, no, no, no.
I'll get a backtrack on that. The single trail stuff though,
it's we talked a bit about it when we were introducing Lee to
trail running a few weeks back or when you did that entry thing
to trail running is that. It's way nicer running on the
single track. It is way nicer, but it also
takes a level of confidence and familiarity with your
environment to feel comfortable doing it, particularly by
yourself. Right.
I'm now comfortable running single trails through the border
Trail because I know it's it's kind of like the Gold Coast in
that it's a strip. I know I can't get lost on the
left because it's old mate from Billabong owns that whole
section and I can't get lost on the right because it's the road.
So I've got this corridor to work within and I'm not going to
get lost. Yeah, that's why.
Do you know? That area, it's just random
story. Covid's over.
We can talk about it now during COVID, you know, when there was
all the border stuff going on. So literally as you're running
through that single track, yeah, fence line up there is the
border. So effectively the single track
from my from my understanding, yeah, you're on the on the other
side you're running in NSW. So during COVID, with all the
issues that were happening, people coming up and thing there
was nothing stopping someone just walking up into that area
it. Wasn't a hard border.
It wasn't a hard border. It wasn't a hard.
Border if you if you knew the crumb and trails.
But the reason I asked about? Patriots.
Backpack The reason I asked about Pages Pinnacle is because
I'm loving the border trails. I know Nerang is there for me
when I get the time to make the drive up and and run around
Nerang, but I'm also looking for I want to I know spring.
I just I'm just going to explore more trails.
Well. Explore away pages is a shit of
you're not gonna. There's no running, OK?
It's not running. No, that's a climb.
It's a climb. So it's a hike.
If you go from the Namamba Valley side, you're literally
gonna climb 3K straight up a hill.
OK, which is isn't a bad thing either, because the other.
It's a hard 3K the. Other feedback I keep getting
from everybody who's reached out about the Mylar is stairs,
stairs, stairs, stairs, stairs, stairs, stairs, stairs.
Yeah, but like what I'm saying is there's better options if you
want to go and run, OK, But if you actually just want to go and
see pages Pinnacle? I'd like to do both.
It's probably a better one just to go and grab, take some food
and go up for sunset or sunrise like it's a more of a high.
OK, well have you taken your kids up it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got the last time I took
the kids up, we went up for sunset.
I believe this has come back years ago.
Oh, it's. Super.
Fun. How old were they?
Yeah, probably not your kids age a little bit older, but I can
recall. Oh, I had.
We had a great time. Because like the you want
something to do with your kids that's fun.
Yeah. Go and do those single trails at
night with head torches. Oh, really?
Yeah. OK. 100%.
Put some Taylor Swift on. Kids in the dark, in the Bush,
they're going to have a ball. OK, absolute ball.
Yeah, as long as they don't take their head torches off and
disappear. You've got you've got trackers
on your kids. I don't know about those.
Yeah, fuck kids. Yeah, that's but that's where
I'm at with running. Again, Body feels good.
I do need to the the there's kind of the looming spectre in
my life, as we've talked about before, is the is the
qualification race. So I've got to make sure I've
got that one locked in. But yeah, no, I'm loving running
at the moment. It's great.
Well, I've got running news in the sense I can.
I'm at a probably at a week where I start to I can talk
about running. It's not just I'm not just going
out. That's why I haven't talked
about it much to now. It's been like it's a little bit
like we said, you know? Should you post a run on Strava?
Did you? Use a little run on Strava of
yours yesterday. Well, should you post a run on
Strava or if you just go on and run in 10K easy or 5K easy or
whatever? Post whatever you want on Strava
you can. Post whatever went on Strava.
But the question is, should you or I don't?
I never really saw the point of talking to people and going or
what did you have done Running? Well, I've been running.
There's nothing more than I've been running OK this week,
however, I obviously been doing a fair bit of gym.
It's all going well. Yeah, got into the Spit with the
crew on Tuesday. Now I've been going in there
warming up. This is with the, the, the Gold
Coast. Yeah, the Gold Coast, but
they're moving pretty quick. I warm up with them and then
I've just been kind of jogging along for the set for the 20
minutes or 30 minute session or whatever and then jogging out
and just keeping it nice. And this week I thought the
session was 4 minutes, 4 minutes on run or whatever, and then 4
minutes. One minute easy on float, float,
30 seconds fast, 30 seconds float back into 4 minutes, four
times. So it's a 24 minute session.
OK, good session. Great.
Session. Yeah, yeah, it was like super
good session. Louis did it.
It was the one who suggested. It so just get hold on just for
everybody out there playing along, break that down.
You have you warmed up? Yeah, so 20 minutes warm up. 20
minute warm up and then it's 4 rounds through the set which is
a. 6 It's a 6 minute set, so 4 minutes on one minute off 30
seconds on 30 seconds off times. 4 Yep.
And with 30 seconds being fast and then you've got 30 seconds
rest 4 minute pacing. Well, I I mean, everyone was
doing the pacing they can control, so control pacing.
I don't think it was too much. So you trying to run like but
for when they say 4 minutes on yeah, so 4 minutes fast, 4
minutes fast. Okay.
With the allowance then you go into the 30 seconds and can pick
it up. Yeah.
So it's it's a pace that you've got to be able to hold, but
you've got to have another gear to go to, even if it's just for
30 seconds and you've got to be able to sustain it through four
sets. I'm sure there was a
prescription, but the fact that I didn't plan to run it, I
wasn't listening beyond that. But what I did, so I ran on the
back and I thought I'll just, I kind of ran off and I wasn't
going to do any speed, but I ran on the back of them, the
backpack and just kind of started tapping along and felt
good. So I kept tapping along, felt
better, just kind of kept tapping along.
So I averaged for those out there, love their stats and all
that type of thing. So this is the first time I've
run pretty much any quicker than just easy jogging around in a
fair while now. And I think we averaged still 4
minutes, just under 4 minutes for the whole, what was it, a 24
minute effort? Yeah.
Well, 24 minutes. Great, So then I've been away.
They had a busy week. Wednesday night I'll give a
shout out to the Brisbane Olympics.
So this week we had a. Believe, belong, become.
You heard it. Did you get a right?
Did you get the media release? Yep, the New Meadow.
Believe belong become Brisbane 2032.
So that's the they've. Stolen it from a school really.
Kings. Kings College in Brisbane,
That's the school motto is that. The exact school motto.
Really, I think there's always the schools that have got that.
Really. Can you check?
Can you Fact Check that? I would say a big agency would
have done that. So yeah, I've been behind the
scenes. I've been obviously helping, you
know, helping get that campaign, you know, doing some content and
helping get that campaign launched.
And it was a big opening night. And it was at Star City up in
Brizzy. And I'll tell you what, was it
an opening? You know, radio pot bellies.
Yeah, One of their songs is the campaign song.
So once, once all the. Not the I love it.
I think that's Pot Bellies. Pot Bellies.
What's their other song? Hot.
Bellies. I had a they they did a few
crackers. So they came out after all the
dignitaries got up and did their this.
I don't, yeah. I think that was.
Is there anybody? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
something. So they they played, they got on
the decks and they got out there.
They're getting a bit, that's awesome, a little bit old.
We all do. We all do, yeah.
But it was a night of so there was a panel.
Our friend, our sprinter Locky out of Brisbane.
Locky Kennedy. Yep, Locky Kennedy up on stage.
And Amir's, few of the mayors from around Queensland got up
and had had their say around this, their new campaign.
So it's exciting. What got me thinking though, is
because they always, you know, sticking camera, cameras and
microphones and trying to get comments on, you know, what's
believed and what's belonging and all, all of this.
And it's, I just keep coming back to 6 1/2 years now is such
a long time. What?
How many kids out there right now would have no ideas, no idea
they're going to be in the Brisbane Olympics in 6 1/2
years? Will you tell me?
That they're out there, they're going to be involved in sport,
but there will be young kids out there right now who have no
idea, but in 6 1/2 years they could likely be in some of those
younger sports ages. Be right in the thick of it.
It's exciting, right? Yeah, I I mean the.
The reason I say that is like, so Locky was up there the way he
was talking, obviously as athletes right now.
And you know, Matt Hauser would be in this same situation.
You're getting excited about like home games now.
But 6 1/2 years is so long in sport, so long in sport to
predict. Like you're thinking about it
now, but it's still so far. So let's let me, let me bring a,
a, let me bring it back to the everyday runner who's listening
to this right now. On Wednesday's episode with
Benita, we talked about the 30 week run up to the Gold Coast
Marathon. And Benita's saying you've got
to get out of marathon mode. You actually can't you, you
can't switch into marathon mode for another until April, right?
Which gives you a 14 week lead in.
So essentially you're saying you got to forget about it for the
next 16 weeks. We take that to the Olympic
mode. 6 1/2 years really. Those athletes probably aren't
going to become you tell me if this is accurate.
Really. Those athletes in that same vein
probably can't seriously start turning their attention to
Brisbane until, what, 2028? Yeah, I don't mean they've got
LA 20. 29 like for the first timers, for those athletes that
won't make LA because maybe they're not in the old enough.
Yeah, Old enough, yeah. Realistically, they won't be
able to seriously turn their attention to Brisbane until
2029. It's so long away, but it all,
it's all, yeah, the whole, the whole point.
I mean, telling the story, it's happening like, you know, this
is it. Foundation campaigns like
there's I know for a fact there are some sports that are
petitioning hard, like the well, the sports that want in.
There was mention of I is is a little bit of a hot take.
It's, I mean the information's not there, but I believe those
sports sound like they're pretty much being sent off.
Well, they have. They've already applied.
No, no, not applied. I mean meaning that it's now in
the hands. Of Oh yes, so the petitioning.
The petitioning right now is not going to be helping.
Ohh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, So the ones you're saying
this is me personally talking, I don't have any information, but.
If you're a member of a games and organising committee, don't
give up on petitioning cause Courtney thinks it's done but.
Yeah, I think at this stage of petition, petitioning has been
done. And yeah, I'm not sure when
those results, but it'd be really interesting to see which
games they which games, which sports they do choose.
It's gonna be fascinating. It's gonna be fascinating.
What? Would be, hey, here's one good
question for you. What do you which is which is a
sport that you believe could be chosen that you think's most
left field? So the most left field sport for
LA to me was flag football. Actually they got a rowing
someone was telling me the other day.
Well, the one that's strange for the one that's strange for LA is
cricket. Yeah, it's, it's strange because
it's an American game. Just bring that in.
Look, the the it's, I don't know how left field this is, but the
one that I think should I, I, it's so Australian specific, but
I, I, I'm in, I'm serious ocean racing.
And I believe they can't go in under Iron Man because that's a,
that's a copyrighted brand that the triathlon owns.
So whatever title they go in under, Ocean, Man, Ocean,
whatever it is, that's the one, That's the one I love to.
Reckon I Well look LALA is baseball, softball, cricket,
flag football, lacrosse and squash.
Swash has been a Commonwealth is a Commonwealth game sports
universally played, particularly it's big with the Asian
countries as well. So and that's a part of it.
Whether we agree with that or not.
Someone was telling me and I think I can't remember if I said
this, but I got told that the most watched sport at the
Olympic Games. What do you think the most
watched sport at the Olympic Games is?
This is a good one. What do you think the most
watched sport at the Olympic Games is?
Ping pong, correct? Table tennis because the Asian
audience. So cricket as an example, the
Indian audience, it's one country, but it makes up how
many billions of people? Makes up all their TV.
Right. So, but for me, and is it, I'll
declare my bias. I live here on the Gold Coast.
I work in radio on the Gold Coast.
I work in sports commentary here on the Gold Coast.
I want Surf Life Saving to get in because it'll be held here on
the Gold Coast. I love the sporting community
around Surf Life Saving and the the the series.
I love all of it and I want to see it at the Olympics because I
think it would be epic. Just having a look if they've
got front runner sports for the. Netball.
I think the the I talked this
about would be someone about this the other day.
Netball's tricky because my understanding is for a sport to
be granted inclusion, it needs to be eligible to both genders.
Now, what's interesting is that they don't play women's baseball
at the Olympics, but they play softball because they don't play
men's softball at the Olympics, do they?
It's baseball. Like, it's almost like they've
gone. He's a Oh yeah.
Oh, you're asking? Questions I could be, I could be
wrong. Questions.
I don't know. But netball, and this is it
might be a controversial take, right?
I think netball should be in the Olympics.
Believe it if they're considered a front runner.
But I don't think there should be a men's competition.
Yeah, agreed. I'm with you there.
So 100. Percent, but I don't think, but
it's kind of like if it means that the women get a chance to
compete on the Olympic level, I'm OK with the men getting to
do it. But I don't think, you know, if
I had a choice, I'd rather netball just went in as a
women's only sport. Yeah, is is how I feel about
netball. The three, and this is just
purely AI, quickly having a look, the three sports they're
saying are seeking inclusion that they mentioned is life
saving. Like you said, touch football.
But touches massive. But isn't that No, no, sorry,
but isn't that flag? No, because TAT flags gridiron
and touches rugby. Style.
So I don't think I would like an Olympics where both those sports
existed. Well, flag won't be in the
following Flag won't be at Brisbane.
Oh, it won't stay. No.
Oh, OK. In that case, yeah.
Bring on. I love touch.
I think touch is awesome. Well, actually I'll tell you
about other likely sports is flag, but flag is pretty
American dominated. That's we're just I don't think.
If they want to have it as an exhibition sport, fine, but it
can't stay. Yeah, but yeah, touch.
And was there another one? Karate.
OH, because I got. Taekwondo.
What's the difference between Taekwondo and karate?
Again, this is not me saying that they're the same thing.
I'm not but. I don't like you're asking
questions that I I I've got a Taekwondo outfit that's about
the. One so because Taekwondo is what
what was her name? The the the female.
It's going to annoy me now. I've met him, Heather, But
Burns, Lauren Burns, Lauren Burns.
She competed for Australia in Taekwondo.
That's where they have the the targets on their chest.
Yep. What's karate?
So Taekwondo de both of them de emphasise grappling.
So. Taekwondo Taekwondo de
emphasises punching. Taekwondo is strictly kicking.
Yep, Karate often de emphasises continuous combat.
OK, see, I don't, I don't want more of the same, I think is my
point. I don't want more of the similar
area. It needs to be a big enough
differentiation, which is why flag football stays in by the
time Brisbane turns up. I don't want touch.
Yeah, because it's more of the same.
I would rather touch over flag football.
I don't know how we got there, but my, I was off the back of my
running. So then, so I was at the Spit.
That's where we were. We were at the Spit, Yeah, yeah.
And then so last night I was up in Brizzy yesterday sitting down
all day, came back through and thought I'll just skip in and
ring quickly and have a run. That's the run of yours I saw in
Travel. So I jumped in.
By the way, few new trail shoes I got it the Black Friday sales.
Yeah, what'd you grab? I'm not going to tell.
You yet? OK, there is.
I've seen a trail shoe I want to try.
So here's here's what's to look forward to.
I got a trail shoe that had nothing to do with trail shoes
itself. I tried on a shoe out of a box
that I believe could be my favourite shoe ever.
Wow. In a.
In a first put on a shoe.
I was in first feel first impression.
First impression, first feel of a shoe This is up there with for
at least in my recent memory. This shoe was out of the box.
I went this I wanted to go back to Nerang and run in it because
it was obviously it just got delivered yesterday.
I come home, I did run in another new pair of shoes in the
in the ring at the same time. OK, so we've got some trail.
Shoes. We've got some comparisons come
in and I've got, yeah, some trail comparisons.
On that run I went out, threw a pair of head, one headphone in
and then one headphone, one headphone.
Got around this track. I go normally got back.
I was just like you just said. I was just out enjoying running
again. Loving it.
Off average four 50s through the trails.
Because you're taking it nice and.
Easy. I make a bit.
Yeah, I've got. I need to settle back down.
Calm the farm. So that's my conclusion of my
run week is so the body's feeling good.
I need to settle. You need to come back down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes too. OK.
Have you seen the new Nike ACG Zagama?
Yeah, I did. I sent that to my brother and
went. I didn't need this.
Yeah, they look ridiculous. Do you know I so I've got to
check with him. He's got the I want to show
cause a few people have asked me about the Zaga when I was
telling the story about how the Zagama 2, the improvement in the
like, No, I could listen. So this is the next.
This is the so we're talking Solomon shoes.
This is the AG. What is it?
ACG? It's the S lab version of the
Zagama 2. It like it's got the cut.
Yeah, it's got the cut out of the shoe that looks like it's
got a bit more of a midsole plate in it.
Possibly they're running the Vibrant Soul, but it's their
elite version of the Zagama too. I'm trying to find one of the
original Zagama so I can take some shots to show me, because
I'm getting asked about this idea of excuse me asking about
this idea of the original Zagama had such a the fall on the side
of the zero that first cigarma was like going to break your
ankles and how they made such a small improvement to it.
But it's changed the whole shoe. Yeah, in a positive off.
Yeah, I do want to try that. They they look great.
I saw them the other day and I'm like, oh, they look, they look
interesting. How's that mate we've been
going? Hey, there's a lot going on.
I know we harped on it about it and seriously do everybody that
sent through their wrapped and have in the beginning as a part
of it for 2025, whether it was #1 or you listened once.
Thank you. That is the motivation we need
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