1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,120 In the beginning, episode 23, now we're rushed court. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,000 We are rushed, we're rushed. It's my fault. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,720 Liam, we're going to get to why we're rushed. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,680 We are, but let's let's start with something different. 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,880 Let's have a listen to this. My opinion, you should name your 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,880 child after something you love. Marathon come here. 7 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:25,040 Nova Blast 5 YouTube come here Speed come inside. 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Do you know anyone who's ever named that kid after something 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,640 to do with sport or running? I mean, there's plenty of trees 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,280 and that out there, but yeah. I'm trying to think there's, I'm 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,040 trying to think if I know anybody who's named their kid 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,680 Usain or something. No, look, if I've got two, we 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,240 both got two kids. You have to name your kids again 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,360 with running at the forefront. No, with my name, yeah. 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,920 All I was making sure with my kids is that I gave them two 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,440 strong 11 strong male name and one strong female name so they 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,120 never got mixed up. Really. 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,040 Oh mate, I've lived my whole life with the name called. 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,080 Of course. It's like I'll go to check into 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,360 a hotel tonight and I'll never know whether I'm going to get Mr 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:08,480 or Mrs. So I'd tangent, this is really interesting, right? 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,360 Because my daughter's name is Quinn, yes, which is a a unisex 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,800 name could. Be Quinn Dara, Yeah. 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,840 Quinn, Yep, great swimmer, has swammed the English Channel. 25 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,920 Share that Quinn he my daughter Queen is a girl. 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,680 And interestingly, when the final of the Shoreham Partners 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,000 Iron series was on recently at North Burleigh, Queen is a 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,680 nipper there at North Burleigh like you were. 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,840 And the North Burleigh Nippers had the chance to run out with 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,000 the athletes on the sand for the final event. 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,280 Really excited. And all the girl nippers were 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,240 getting matched up with the female athletes and all the 33 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,120 little boy Nippers were getting matched up with the male 34 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:42,920 athletes. Yeah. 35 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:46,320 And Queen. My daughter was lumped in with 36 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:50,040 all the little boy Nippers and the male athletes because 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,080 whoever was putting the list together just assumed Quinn was 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:52,560 a boy. I. 39 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,040 Feel her pain. You can let her know I feel her 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,160 pain. This is this has been my daily 41 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,600 life. So that's what I did for my 42 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:00,920 kids. I wasn't having a go at you, 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,040 Liam. No, no, no. 44 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,680 But it's it's interesting though I've. 45 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,160 Learned from that experience. I'm still living it everyday. 46 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,800 It's. To go back to the the original 47 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,760 hypothetical, if you name these kids after, you know, something 48 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,280 you loved, running was my first would have been negative split. 49 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,600 Maggie, come over here. Neggie. 50 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:23,600 Neggie. And the second one would have 51 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:28,680 been threshold. What about to toy toy over here 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,920 toy anyway. Running names, hey. 53 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,120 Talk about quick talk about toy runners. 54 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,080 Let's talking about toy runners. Let's we've got some running 55 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,040 news to get through. We don't normally start off with 56 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,160 running news, but there have been some results that we need 57 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,680 to talk about. First of all, we have a new 58 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,480 marathon, half marathon world record we have. 59 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,200 This is is mind boggling. So the previous record was held 60 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,920 by Yomif Cadelcha. I'm not sure if I'm saying his 61 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:57,920 surname right, but I know Courtney will get nowhere near 62 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:58,960 it. Yep. 63 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,480 But it has been broken by Jacob Kaplimo who I think held the 64 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:10,200 record before Yomif. 56.56 minutes and 42 seconds. 65 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,320 He's the first human ever to break 57 minutes. 66 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,080 It's it doesn't sound like 1/2 marathon time, does it, when you 67 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,680 start talking 56? And a half minutes basically. 68 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,160 Yep, yeah, for context, he's and I've. 69 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,920 Have you seen the 5K breakdowns for this run? 70 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:28,880 Oh, I haven't. I haven't. 71 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,720 You're obviously in the data a lot more than me. 72 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,800 This week ever 5K What's your 5 KPP Courtney Atkinson two time. 73 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Elite I I I honest I this is honest as God. 74 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,240 I don't know, but at at that time I'd run a mid 14. 75 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,360 Mid 14 Yeah. Jacob Kiplimo in breaking this 76 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,760 world record or in setting this new world record, has run his 10 77 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:59,200 to 15K split in 1257. He's 10 KS deep. 78 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,240 He's 10 KS deep into this and then he's dropped a sub 13 79 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,480 minute 5 kilometre. It's wild. 80 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,040 He's gone 1338, his first five's as slow as five. 81 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,680 He's gone 1338 through the 1st 5 KS. 82 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,680 He's gone 1312 through the next 5 KS. 83 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:22,040 Then he's dropped the 12:57 and then he's come home with a 1323. 84 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,800 Negative split. He's negative split, Yeah. 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,600 That's what he should call his first kid negative split, 86 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,440 Kablima. But this is, and we've talked 87 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,720 previously about when the women's marathon world record 88 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,760 was set earlier this year, I think, or late last year 89 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,440 potentially. And sadly, we've had this 90 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,960 conversation before, so we don't need to have it again about the 91 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,120 question marks that hang when these sort of leaps get made. 92 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,400 Were the question marks on this one. 93 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,600 Well, I don't know if there is a. 94 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,680 Lot of news. On this, but he's essentially 95 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:03,560 improved the world record by 48 seconds, which is a. 96 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,200 That's massive. Which is a massive, massive 97 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,600 amount. And look, you know, amazing. 98 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,000 Not questioning it, but we're now, as you said, we're now 99 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,800 talking about half marathons being run. 100 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,720 He's run. His average KS per hour is 22.3 101 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,560 KS an hour. Oh, I just know how quick that 102 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,880 is on a treadmill trying to test and I'm at my Max when I can run 103 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,160 fast. It's it's wild. 104 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:31,720 It is wild. Do you? 105 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,800 Do. You I want I actually want to 106 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:36,800 move on because this is my this is depressing me doing No, no. 107 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,400 No, that is incredible crazy. We've got some other results to 108 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,200 talk about because I think the other thing I'm getting a sense 109 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,960 of at the moment through my running friends is this race 110 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,560 season's kind of here. Like, I know they've been events 111 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,360 and all the rest of it over the last couple of months, yes, but 112 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:57,120 I feel like the Tarawiro Tarawiro over in New Zealand 113 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,640 happened over the last weekend. Which is the equivalent of our 114 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,080 UTA. Yeah, and I just, I found myself 115 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,320 and all my WhatsApp groups and social media feeds starting to 116 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,200 get caught up in, in running season. 117 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,400 And now I've got friends in Sydney who are beginning 12 week 118 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,720 programmes for 1/2 marathon coming up and I'm like, oh, this 119 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,640 is exciting. Marathon season's here. 120 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,960 And and winners of the Tara Weira, Daniel Jones and Ruth 121 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,600 Croft. Yep, big shout out to them. 122 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,960 Beth McKenzie, my teammate from the Noosa Triathlon Legends race 123 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,640 podium finisher. She also finished 3rd in the 124 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,840 women's race up in Tara Weira. You're right, she won UTA last. 125 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:41,600 Year she won UTA 100 last year she's finished third in the Tara 126 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Weira race this year. She's on fire. 127 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,680 She's. She and husband Luke run Win 128 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:49,600 Racing, which is great brand doing great stuff, supporting 129 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,280 athletes as well. But yeah, I've, I've, I've just 130 00:06:52,280 --> 00:06:55,160 found myself being in a bit of running season fever at the 131 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,560 moment. Yeah, Dan Jones is an 132 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,840 interesting 1. Cause I've Dan came from an 133 00:06:58,840 --> 00:07:03,000 adventure racing background. So I've raced pretty much. 134 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:03,960 I don't think I've raced with him. 135 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,840 No, I've raced against him again. 136 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,360 He's been in Kiwi teams, I've been in Aussie teams and raced 137 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,200 through China and adventure racing with him. 138 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,680 And then he put all these, he kind of like went all in on the 139 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,160 long trail stuff and he's he's killing it. 140 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,480 Hey, it's so exciting. Western, you know, he'll be at 141 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:20,880 Western States and all of that, so. 142 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,360 So shout out to everybody that took part in tower. 143 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,720 We're over the weekend and as I said, look, I hope to be well, I 144 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,000 hope we get to share more racing news with you because it feels 145 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 like we're starting to head into the season quickly before we 146 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:37,800 move on to some books I have in front of me here last one you 147 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,520 mightn't have heard of this kid, but I think it's it needs to be 148 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,160 shared here on in the beginning the. 149 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,000 Pint sized running prodigy has made history a race he didn't 150 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,840 mean to enter. The 11 year old from Box Hill 151 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,680 has set a blistering new fastest time for three kilometres as his 152 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,040 sights set on the Brisbane Olympics. 153 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,400 He's half the size of his competition but strides ahead 2. 154 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:09,000 46 For James Hall, absolutely flying. 11 year old James Hall 155 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,200 is now the fastest 3 kilometre runner for his age in the world, 156 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,720 gaining that title in part by accident, not realising the 157 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,760 distance he'd signed up for. I actually didn't know that was 158 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,160 going to be 7 1/2. Laps He started the race fast 159 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,840 and held his pace, finishing after 9 minutes and 7 seconds, 160 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,919 the equivalent of three minute kilometres. 161 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:39,120 This is an 11 year old from Melbourne who's just clocked 9 162 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,440 minutes over 3K. That's super impressive. 163 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,760 I know a little bit about schoolboy running. 164 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,440 And, you know, even guys like Craig Mottraman, you know, at 165 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,880 his heyday, you know, I would race around our school titles 166 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,040 and, you know, at national level, and I can tell you we 167 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,680 weren't 9 minutes was a good benchmark when you're in grade 168 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:05,440 10, so about 15. He's 11, he's 11. 169 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,880 He's the 1st in the world like that's. 170 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,200 How? How do you reckon? 171 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:14,280 Where do you reckon he goes from here as an 11 year old? 172 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,480 Well, there's a better question. I've got no idea. 173 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,800 I haven't, I've never got near that and I in no way got put 174 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,360 into pathways or programmes or any sort of high achieving type 175 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,280 stuff. It's a question for you because 176 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,880 you were identified as a someone with potential in high school, 177 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,000 right? So let me put you in the 178 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,520 position of being the coach of this young man. 179 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:41,480 How do you manage him from here? He's 11 years old, mind you, and 180 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,880 we've seen with Gout gout the way he's being managed by his 181 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,760 team. They're saying, well, let's just 182 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,680 you know, we know what you're good at. 183 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:51,600 We're just going to focus him. We're going to we're just going 184 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,640 to let you be you. We're going to let you develop 185 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,480 naturally. We're not going to get they're 186 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,440 doing a really good job of managing him right now. 187 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,320 How are you or or talking to people around this kid about 188 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,920 managing him through pathways from here? 189 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,600 Because this ain't a fluke. Like 11 years old. 190 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,200 You're the fastest kid over three KS in the world. 191 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,960 There's potential. How do you best nurture it? 192 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,360 I mean, the, the challenge of anyone this age is going to be 193 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,480 enjoyment, right? Because the tendency will be 194 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,240 there'll be a lot. I, I would say there'd be people 195 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:24,920 and hopefully not, but I'd suggest there's probably people 196 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,320 circling going, I'll get hold of this kid. 197 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,160 I'm going to be able to take him right through to, you know, 198 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:33,600 great heights or they'll, you know, we're Young Olympian or 199 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,200 whatever it is. But I mean, I would be at 11, 200 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,360 first thing is he obviously enjoys running if he can do 201 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,800 that. The second thing is, you know, 202 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,400 you still want to be able to, at that age, experience a whole 203 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,200 range of things. I think running, especially at 204 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,160 in distance running, you know, he's got a lot of development. 205 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,520 He's gonna go through a lot of growth. 206 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,360 There's a lot of things that can go wrong. 207 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:59,320 Yeah, so I would cautious would be the thing. 208 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,760 I did say this has all happened through a school down there. 209 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,200 So very similar to, you know, the schools on the Gold Coast 210 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,080 and in Brisbane that look after runners and have really 211 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,480 professional coaching around them. 212 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,000 I would say he's in that boat. But I love the fact that later 213 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,040 on in that clip, 'cause I watched the whole thing, he he 214 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,280 said I, I don't really look up to any other runners. 215 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,120 I look up to the grade 11 and 12 is. 216 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,560 At the school, yes, 'cause you do when you're a kid. 217 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:27,000 Do because when you're 14, you think 1617 is, you know, that's 218 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,160 as far as you see in life, Yeah. Yeah, it's the other thing and I 219 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:37,000 love the idea of the more For every Tiger Woods there's that 220 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,760 specialised early and for every Williams sister that specialised 221 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,440 early, there's probably hundreds of thousands of kids who try to 222 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:51,760 specialised and don't and can't sustain the generalisation over 223 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,840 specialisation, the diversification. 224 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,920 As a kid of sport, I love that attitude and I wonder what else. 225 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,280 Well, I wonder what his kid is doing. 226 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,240 I mean, we don't know, but I wonder whether he's got a 227 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,880 background in swimming, something that's, you know, 228 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,840 created that's. Aerobic game just because. 229 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,480 At 11:00 to be able to, you know, maintain that over 9 230 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,600 minutes, like 3K for an 11 year old's a long way, 1500 metres or 231 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,200 800 can be a long way for a, you know, 1011 year old. 232 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,880 So I'm gonna take a guess that he's done something leading up 233 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,360 to this where he's had a good aerobic engine, he's built the 234 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,560 heart, built the mark, you know, built all the capillaries 235 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:30,600 already starting that process. So, you know, you, if, if that's 236 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,440 the case, you don't want to deviate from that, you want to 237 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,840 keep, continue that progression and then, you know, slowly 238 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,280 obviously specialised in running 'cause that's, you know, but 239 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,200 that's something to be said. World best at 11. 240 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:47,440 The world best at 11. And you know, what are we do the 241 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,400 maths Slam nine years out. This kid will be 20 when 242 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,280 Brisbane rolls around. Yeah. 243 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,280 Is is talk to me about well. It's a perfect age, that's what. 244 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,280 Is it? Is it the perfect age? 245 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,080 Yeah, 100%. That's what I've been, that's 246 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,440 what I've been saying about the Brisbane Olympics all along 247 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,920 since we started doing the podcast. 248 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:09,240 Is the P the what? The Olympics to me, what the so, 249 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,880 so, so great about the Olympics is young kids watch it at home 250 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,240 and they have that view where they're not like us. 251 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,880 They haven't been through life to a degree that, you know, 252 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,800 they're not bitter. They're not bitter. 253 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,360 They're not shaded. Yeah. 254 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,400 They're just watching a race, seeing a hero and hopefully 255 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,960 wanting to emulate them. Yeah. 256 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,520 And we're looking at those eight 910 year olds who are gonna be 257 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,120 the Brisbane Olympians. They don't even know that yet, 258 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,760 but they're the ones who got to nurture. 259 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,000 And that's why we keep needing, you know, you keep needing the 260 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,600 Olympic cycle to happen. So you bring on these new kids 261 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,680 and it keeps going. But talking about young kids and 262 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:47,760 training? Oh no, I've got it in front of. 263 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,200 Me, I'm a little bit old, but I promised last week I'd go and 264 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,080 search for an old journal I wrote. 265 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,480 So I said last week when we were talking about Will Ashcroft, I 266 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,000 said I don't journal, I'd rather go and watch Netflix. 267 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,840 Yeah, at this stage of my life, I I couldn't think of anything 268 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,080 worse than journaling. But open a random page in that 269 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,800 journal I've given you, and I don't even know what year it is. 270 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,640 It's probably I'm a teenager when I'm writing that. 271 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,840 So what I'm holding here, if you can't, If you're not, if you 272 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,440 can't get a chance to watch the clips or or check out the video 273 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,480 footage of this and you're just listening, it is a shiny silver 274 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,760 notebook, a spiral notebook. It's in pretty good nick if 275 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:25,880 you've written this when you're a team. 276 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,480 It was a bit of a nerd. And as I flip through it, you've 277 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,920 got very good handwriting, by the way, Thank you. 278 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,600 I will say you've got very good handwriting. 279 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,520 But my God, you're you're an athletic nerd. 280 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,280 You're a nerd because this is. All right, So pick a random page 281 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,440 and look hopefully, hopefully it's not a big date. 282 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,360 No, no, no or anything. I'm gonna pick a couple. 283 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:47,800 Because a big night on the juice. 284 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,480 I've got this somewhere. It's, it's obviously it's data 285 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,560 driven. And then there's somewhere it's, 286 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,840 there's a, there's a, a page I've just found which is more 287 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,080 notes, right? Yeah. 288 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,360 Words Monday, 16th of April. And again, we're not sure what 289 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,440 year this. Oh, here we go. 290 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,000 No, this is your 2000 notebook, so 2001. 291 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,160 Oh, Sydney, 2000 Olympics. I would have been a teenager. 292 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,200 So nearly nearly cracked the Olympics as a teenager 293 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,880 accidentally and then it took me another few rounds to get into 294 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:16,280 it. But. 295 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,360 First page of this is Saturday 9th of December 2000, so it's 296 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,360 late 2000 after the Sydney Olympics, and then I'm going to 297 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,640 jump to the 16th of April, presumably 2001 here. 298 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,520 Monday 16th of April. Beautifully handwritten ride 81 299 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,200 1/2 kilometres, 2 hours, 40 average 30 1/2 KS per hour. 300 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,480 Then you've got your the route you rode which was Nerang to 301 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,000 Gillingbah, Chillingham, maybe chilling Chillingham 2 times, 302 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Heinz dam loop, Gilston to home run. 303 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,960 Hins Dam for those goals. Sorry, yes. 304 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,960 Run off bike, still got my Adelaide accent. 305 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,880 Run off bike, 6 KS approximately 25 minutes. 306 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,600 Swim 4 1/2 KS, no warm up. 2K time trial, 24 minutes. 307 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,840 Wanna swim 2424? You've broken it down into 308 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:08,280 splits 1200 kick 1000 flippers kick, swim drill 403 back warm 309 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,960 down with fins Asterix BBQ with mum side of family after 310 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,240 Darren's wedding came over late. Oh, that's why you're not meant 311 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,160 to read that mate. I was particular. 312 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,120 That is so funny, Courtney. How? 313 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,120 Old are you in 2001? Two. 314 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,640 I mean, I'm in my heyday. It's just hilarious. 315 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,680 Oh, now I got it. Now put it put, put let's close. 316 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:42,920 Hold on, hold on. Just. 317 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,560 Quickly though. Just quickly though, yeah, that 318 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,320 was a Monday for you and you've done an 81 1/2 K ride, you've 319 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,440 run 6K off the bike and then you've done a four and a half K 320 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,360 swim. This is your journalling. 321 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,080 Just quickly. That's doing all right for a 322 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,760 Monday. Yeah, and just and day more, 323 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,360 just days of this. I'm going to take this home and 324 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,040 read it with me because it's fascinating reading. 325 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,240 You've also brought two other books that you haven't written. 326 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,599 No, I definitely haven't written these other you. 327 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:10,040 Haven't written these books but you you wanted to bring them up 328 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,040 as I try and pick them up without bumping the microphone. 329 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,920 Before we did. So that's the reason I wanted to 330 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,280 show you the journal. It's like, you know, that's, I 331 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,000 think behind the scenes, that's the type of thing no one sees, 332 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,839 you know, like as a, you know, I think it was 19 or something. 333 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:30,640 Then the attention to detail of, you know, and I'm being coached 334 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,480 at that time too, but the attention, attention to detail 335 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:38,040 that goes into, you know, thinking about every single 336 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,080 little thing that goes into your performance, analysing it, 337 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,640 reworking it year on year, comparing it and just. 338 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,960 So year to year though or month to month, would you go back and 339 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,200 review this? Stuff on top of that, we'd have 340 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,960 volume graphs. So this is before training 341 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,160 peaks, I'm pretty sure. Maybe just before training 342 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,640 peaks. So we'd have volume graphs. 343 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,680 We'd be managing it each day. I'm just looking right at the 344 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,640 back. You've got your weekly totals. 345 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,280 Oh well, there you go. So here, literally at the back. 346 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,400 At least I wasn't hideous. What we do No, no, no. 347 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,160 Wow, This is You've got your prize money listed here in the 348 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,320 very. Bottom I'm happy for you to 349 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,120 share with the prize money. What, what, what? 350 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:23,880 What are we doing with that? Prize money 2001 to 2002 season. 351 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,440 OK financial. Yeah, yeah. 352 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,040 Brisbane Bridge run. You won 600 bucks. 353 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,320 Bridge to Brisbane. I wonder if they pay. 354 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,920 I wonder if they pay prize money these. 355 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,960 You won 600 bucks. I wouldn't have won it either, 356 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:39,440 so I must have. Hungry ITVITUITU, you won 1100. 357 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,000 It's been a dodgy race, that one. 358 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,240 It must have came back a bit. Springfield run. 359 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,400 This is all local stuff. You won 100 bucks, Japan Sprint 360 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,920 champs. You won five grand. 361 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,000 Yep. Wollen, wollen gong. 362 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:57,600 Wollen gong, maybe? Wollen Gong try you won $200. 363 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,840 Bribee Island try you won $140.00. 364 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:04,360 Noose Aquathon you won $1000. So for the year. 365 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,320 That's all. I've jeez, I mustn't mean 366 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,080 surviving. Is there another page? 367 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:10,480 No. I've obviously haven't. 368 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,400 Oh wow, this is now I I feel like. 369 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,240 What happened? No, you've just got, you've got 370 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,840 more stuff I want to share here. This is you've you've got 371 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,400 training. Lessons to regret this. 372 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,240 No, no, no, you've got training lessons learnt. 373 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,320 Oh, can I read these? Sure, I can always edit. 374 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:34,040 Training lessons learnt, I want you to jump in as these come to 375 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,000 you. OK bike TT on win trainer to get 376 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,960 strong quick. That's why everyone's on Swift 377 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,440 today. Specific training 2 triathlon 378 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,440 run off bike. Makes sense? 379 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,880 Bike position forward nearly over BB4 TT. 380 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,720 That's what all the Tour riders are doing now, 20 years ahead. 381 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,160 Monitor HRS aim to lower HR running off bike. 382 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,720 Yep, heart rate. So looking to, you know, become 383 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,440 more efficient. Run with faster cadence specific 384 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,760 to running off bike. Yep. 385 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,760 So pick up cadence. That would have been like aiming 386 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,720 around that 180 using metronomes. 387 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Don't concentrate too much on one discipline. 388 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,080 Specific run training won't make running off bike easy. 389 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,600 MMM, that's an interesting one. Definitely work. 390 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,600 I always talk about the jigsaw puzzle in triathlon, but we're 391 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,040 starting to see how good the triathlete runners are as 392 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,600 individuals. Yeah, and it'd be interesting to 393 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,800 know how their the pie. Yeah. 394 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,520 Or their jigsaw puzzle looks now. 395 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,200 Yeah, flexibility, easy improvement, IE yoga. 396 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,240 Yeah, we used to do a fair bit of yoga. 397 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,400 Yeah, I didn't. I still, I still would like to 398 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,040 do a lot more yoga. It's just the time. 399 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,760 Stability for brackets rob circuits plus remember back. 400 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,920 Must have been in the gym at that stage, down at the QAS I 401 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,760 reckon. Extra weight makes harder to 402 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,160 rob. ROB must stand for something run 403 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,120 off bike oh run off bike so stability for run off bike 404 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:58,960 circus plus remember back. Extra weight makes harder to run 405 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,320 off bike. No fats. 406 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,600 We've talked a lot about skin folds this. 407 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,640 Is there we go. We're working it out. 408 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,080 This is early days for me so I'm working out where Where's my 409 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,960 optimal kind of race weight lie? This is interesting. 410 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,640 Mm hmm swim least importantly ride biggest portion then run. 411 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,360 So you. This really is. 412 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,160 Like you've that's I see. I wouldn't remember. 413 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,520 Any of that. You know what this is, Courtney? 414 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,440 In the beginning. In the beginning, this is in the 415 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:29,520 beginning stuff. 62nd surge at end of long run to improve kick 416 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,720 over distance run off bike equal IE 12 KS. 417 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,200 Oh, so that's you telling yourself to run further than the 418 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,800 10K that you would've been racing in? 419 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,920 Tries, yes. Rides solid in races, warms legs 420 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,080 up for run. Yeah, OK. 421 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,080 That's interesting, I wouldn't have remembered that. 422 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,880 One racing is easy way for specific training session. 423 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,840 Yep, of course. Tempo medium distance running 424 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,720 specific for off bike. Well, that was, you know, kind 425 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,080 of like that. It's a threshold running and 426 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,960 like. Yep, and then after sitting 427 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,400 before race for extended periods IE plane or car, get into facet 428 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,960 joints with T-ball. That was my, I was having 429 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,400 trouble with my, my back lower back when I was travelling a 430 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,040 lot, you know, we'd fly sometimes 24 hours to get to a 431 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,800 race. And then as I said, you've got 432 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,440 you've got dates with your training log, your distance log, 433 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:28,000 you've got swim, swim, ride, run the the months or sorry, it's a 434 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:33,640 weekly distance calculator. No, this is so interesting. 435 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,160 It's old school, isn't it? This is really, this is 436 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,520 fascinating stuff. We're gonna get on, we're gonna 437 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,160 get on to Strava in a minute. But like this is this is pre 438 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:46,200 Strava how it was done? I this is now here's what I'll 439 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,240 say to you, OK? Because there's pages in this 440 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,000 book and there's notes in this book that I won't share for the 441 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,560 podcast. Yeah, But here's what I'll say 442 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,760 to you, Courtney Atkinson. At some point, many, many, many, 443 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,800 many, many years from now, decades from now, multiple 444 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,440 decades from now, you won't be around, right? 445 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,600 If there's things in this book that you don't want get made 446 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,240 being made public, get rid of them, right? 447 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,280 Get rid of them 'cause otherwise someone will pick up, someone 448 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,360 will start a podcast called The Life and Times of Courtney 449 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,560 Atkinson. They'll get all this and they'll 450 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,520 read it all out. Hey, look, maybe I thought I was 451 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,160 going to be a lot more famous than I. 452 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,880 Maybe I really thought I was going to win that gold medal, 453 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,520 Liam. So interesting and I had books 454 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,600 ready to go but. That's so interesting. 455 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,440 Now talk to me about these two other books that you brought up. 456 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,960 So you didn't? Write When I went looking for 457 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,680 these old journals up in a box and upstairs I found these two. 458 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,480 I've only kept two books ever. They're running books. 459 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,480 One is deke. What was the? 460 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,840 Making the making of Australia's world marathon champion. 461 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,040 Yep. So I spent a lot of my youth 462 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,880 pretty much following very, very similar programmes to Deke 463 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,440 because I ran with Pat, Pat Clahessie, who was Deke's coach. 464 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,240 So you know when Deke, you know, the famous Brisbane Marathon he 465 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,840 won and all of that, Pat was coaching him and we pretty much 466 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,840 did very similar. So I read this book and I could 467 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,560 just see all the same training sessions. 468 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,200 There was a famous training session he'd do around where it 469 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,760 was like a 8400 session with a 200 float. 470 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,640 A lot of runners still do it to today. 471 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,760 You know, that all came. I mean, it was Australian 472 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,640 culture in running. But Pat Klahesi had a lot to do 473 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,960 with all that. So I was running up at the 474 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,040 University of Queensland in my early days, actually probably 475 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,960 around that, that journalling time. 476 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,400 And yeah, I learnt my trade doing that. 477 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:36,240 Now Pat and Deke learnt their trade to a degree in the time 478 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,240 around a guy that a lot of older runners will know as Arthur 479 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,640 Lydiad. So Running to the Top is a 480 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,760 programme based of Arthur Lydiard's kind of principles of 481 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,000 running down to like you'll read nutrition stuff in there around 482 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,240 where he talks about and, and I can't remember exactly, but how 483 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:57,080 is before gels existed, like how you'd use honey in races, right. 484 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,600 This is like a history lesson, Liam, this is fascinating. 485 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,000 They'll be honey, honey and races. 486 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,560 But what he's got in that Running to the Top by Arthur 487 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,600 Lydiard is he has structured programmes in there of how you 488 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,640 periodise your training blocks going up to like A10 KA half 489 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,000 marathon. What? 490 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,080 I can't remember the exact wording you use, but like when 491 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,760 you should do your test races before the races. 492 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:22,640 And it was all about periodisation in a way of 493 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,360 building massive mileage up. It included a little bit of fart 494 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:28,200 like always, to keep your speed base. 495 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,640 It would put in a strength training block. 496 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,280 So he'd do a specific strength training block of hills. 497 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,720 Then he'd go into his speed phase and then he'd go into his 498 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,600 taper. And I can see I've actually 499 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,120 highlighted pages of going, you know, so a lot of these, I had 500 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,520 coaches all through this time. Yeah. 501 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,920 Well, when the books are good, you just highlighting every bit 502 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,920 of the book. Give pick one and read. 503 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,160 I don't know if anyone's interested. 504 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,360 You reckon people are interested? 505 00:25:54,360 --> 00:26:00,200 In this absolutely absolutely because he I'll come back to 506 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,160 this I've got remind me to give you my thoughts on why I think 507 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,960 runners will be fi would find this stuff interesting. 508 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,760 OK, just quickly I've chapter 13. 509 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,560 This is of of Arthur's book run run to the top running to the 510 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,600 top. Chapter 13 is the marathon. 511 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,040 Some of the stuff you've highlighted in here push when 512 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,520 you feel tired and you could suffer muscle breakdown which 513 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,760 will waste all your effort. Great lesson. 514 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,680 The best results come when you train to a comfortably tired 515 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,840 state. The greatest benefit will come 516 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,400 from the run itself in a sharp improvement in your racing 517 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,880 fitness. Retain that by keeping all 518 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,480 further training relatively easy and by resisting the temptation 519 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,080 to run too much in the final week. 520 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,080 So this is in the lead up to the race, but what's interesting is 521 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,800 he's got a, you know what essentially is AA12 week 522 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,760 programme in here for runners. Yeah, and I think I tried, I 523 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,600 didn't follow the programme exactly because I was doing 524 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,200 triathlon, but I think there was a phase there. 525 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,360 I was probably in between coaches where I I would have 526 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:01,280 done a lot of, you know, trial and error around that training 527 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,080 kind of style. And I mean, in the end the best 528 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,040 years I had in like periodization of building up to 529 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,200 a a block of racing because it wouldn't be just one egg race, 530 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,760 but to be able to go, you know, race well over a season. 531 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,520 It was simple. The longer the base, the better 532 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,800 the outcome. Yeah, and I mean, that is 533 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,520 Lydiard's principle down to a tee. 534 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,440 The reason I think, and you sit there and go, I don't know if 535 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,880 anyone would find this interesting. 536 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,520 The reason I think people would find this interesting and I now 537 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,640 want to read both these books is because, and this goes back to 538 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,560 something you and I have talked about quite a bit, the amount of 539 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,440 noise that exists in running these days, the, the noisiness 540 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,640 of the running industry from the elite level down to the amateur 541 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,040 level. And we're a part of that noise. 542 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,760 But the noisiness and the the general consensus and the 543 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,320 confluence of thoughts that exists and all of it, right? 544 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,600 I don't know exactly when these two were published, but I 545 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,600 imagine both these books are published in a much simpler 546 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,320 time, a much quieter time. I guess in the 90s. 547 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,160 So it's published in a much quieter time when the amount of 548 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,280 people jumping up and down saying I'm an expert look at me 549 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,560 was few and far between. And as a result I haven't read 550 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,320 these. Well, the only people who would 551 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,960 publish a book would be someone who has achieved so at the 552 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,720 highest level already. I mean, Arthur Lydiard coached, 553 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,840 you know, multiple. Yeah, I think Snell so. 554 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,400 K. Peter Snell three times gold or 555 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,680 Lasse Veron? Yep, 4 times gold medallist. 556 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,520 Scanned and one of the best runners ever. 557 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,440 Scandinavian runner. So to this point, not to say 558 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,680 this is the equivalent getting published is the equivalent of a 559 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,800 blue check mark, but. He's got some expertise, this 560 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,680 fella. Yeah, the, the we talk about 561 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,240 running school. You know, who do you trust? 562 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,760 Who should you trust? If they're giving you run 563 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,960 advice, it's probably a pretty good person to trust. 564 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,880 Robert De Costello reckon you could probably trust his 565 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,560 thoughts on running. Well, it's funny you say that. 566 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,160 If you went and picked up that Arthur Lydiard book and read 567 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,600 that, I reckon 9 out of 10 times you're probably going to do 568 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,680 better than much. What's going out there on the 569 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,360 information web today? So, and it's because it's. 570 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,840 Simple, right? It's not overcomplicated. 571 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,800 No one's trying to sell you anything. 572 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,480 It's structured. Yep, it's easy. 573 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,520 And that wouldn't sell because it's too basic, but it just does 574 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,720 the simple things right. It's periodised right. 575 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,280 It gives you a training plan. And like I'm going to say, you 576 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,680 couldn't go too far wrong. But helping someone then to help 577 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,960 you on top of that, whose expertise in coaching would even 578 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,160 help more? And can I just, if you talk 579 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,120 amongst yourselves for a moment, what do you reckon do a, do you 580 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:47,400 think that you reckon you're going, Oh, you can buy this book 581 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,400 for 25 bucks online right now. Amazing. 582 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,880 You could go and buy that, that wealth of knowledge that this 583 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,520 book that you Courtney Atkinson, two time Olympian, one of our 584 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,760 greats is a it's a it's a running Bible for you, right 585 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,680 from a training perspective, It's a training Bible for you. 586 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,680 And you can get that for 25 bucks right now online, and you 587 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,160 can go away and you can silence all the noise of the running 588 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,040 industry and you can just quieten it all and sit down 589 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,880 there and read that book. But it's more than a, it's more 590 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,840 than a Bible. What do you, what's the word for 591 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,720 it when it's a, it's not even a theory. 592 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,840 It's a. Manifesto. 593 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,360 Yeah, I mean it's. It's an attitude towards 594 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,080 running. It's what I believe and, and, 595 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,560 and the reason I believe it is 'cause it's worked. 596 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,280 It's worked. It worked. 597 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,080 I'm just, I mean, no Olympic gold medal, but it was, it 598 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,320 reasonably worked. Oh. 599 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,760 Geez, Deeks isn't cheap. It's Deeks. 600 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,040 I mean, you might be looking. They mightn't have published 601 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,320 that many of those Dee books. I could be sitting on a gold 602 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,520 mine, I think an original I. Kid you not, do you know? 603 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,480 How much is it? I hope I didn't nick it off 604 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,040 someone else. There's only I'm, I'm on Amazon 605 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,840 right now, Deke making of Australia's world champion. 606 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,880 There's one left in stock that's $121. 607 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,360 Have a look in the inside cover. Yeah, it got gifted to you by 608 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,000 someone. Did it? 609 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:08,680 Yeah. Who? 610 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,640 To Michael, who have you stolen this from? 611 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,360 He like actually says to. Maybe it's it's it's not Mike 612 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,480 Shelley this. Is to Michael all the best for 613 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,920 88. You will certainly remember 87 614 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,480 from Chris and Jen or Jim. Who have you stolen this book 615 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,360 from? Well, I'm happy to give it back 616 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,280 to whoever it is. That's amazing. 617 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,920 This is the last time I ever bring out books. 618 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,280 Liam. I'm getting found out left, 619 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,040 right, centre here. So. 620 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,840 So running to the top. Available for purchase widely 25 621 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,520 bucks deke little bit more expensive if you really want to 622 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,320 get one. Courtney Atkinson's private 623 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:52,040 journal Priceless. Well, mate, I can't say all that 624 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,320 was enjoyable for me, but I'm glad you got something. 625 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,040 You got something out of it. Hope everyone else did. 626 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,560 That was amazing. Yeah, maybe we'll pull out some 627 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,440 old, old stuff again. Well, from your private journal 628 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,280 to the app version of data that we have moved. 629 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,080 Into the into the digital age, so you would know straw for 630 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,720 those who have Strava premium or not. 631 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,920 So this is for you also, Liam, at the end of the year, they 632 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,320 send you your stats, who you're in with most, a whole range of 633 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,480 stuff. Did you look at that this year 634 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,120 for yourself a little bit, a little bit, right. 635 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,360 So what I've got here is a few months on, it's the business 636 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,320 version. So when you see on Strava, you 637 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,680 have like the challenges, for example, you know, Nike or 638 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,600 whoever the brand is, the one we talked about the other week, the 639 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,280 name I couldn't pronounce, the Burrito, Burrito challenge 100%. 640 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,920 All of these challenges that are on Strava, they're businesses 641 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,840 investing there. Yeah, this is for the businesses 642 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,560 to understand what to look at, where the trends are, what's 643 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,440 happening in Strava for the year 24 and what you should be 644 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,240 looking at to do for the year 25. 645 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,600 So this is a little bit of inside information, but it's 646 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,560 public knowledge as well. So it's it's fine to share. 647 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,560 I'm going to go through a few things and. 648 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,920 Like your journal It. Is a little bit like my journal 649 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,040 because the first thing that pops up that the number one 650 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,960 trend is getting social war we sweat now they're saying one in 651 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,720 five Gen Z survey have been on a date with someone they met at a 652 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,000 group fitness activity this dating. 653 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,080 Say the number again One. In five Gen ZS, Yep have been on 654 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,840 a date with someone they met at a group fitness activity in 655 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,720 2004. OK. 2420 in 2024, so one in five 656 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,240 strike rate if you want to get a date. 657 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,640 Is that right? I guess that's a pretty good 658 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,520 hit, right? No, no, no, it's no, no, no. 659 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,120 It's not a one in five strike rate. 660 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,400 It's the it's the 2020% of the population or 20% of the of Gen 661 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,200 Z. Have met. 662 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,440 Have been on a date off the back of a run group or a gym group or 663 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,840 or something like that or a fun run or a walk or whatever it is. 664 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,680 High rocks. Yep, which would suggest that, 665 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,400 you know, OK, I guess it makes sense because you know, you're 666 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,600 up and out of bed. What was this version of 667 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,880 yourself I've? Seen the news talk about them 668 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,360 being you know run clubs being the new dating apps, but this is 669 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,320 you know that makes sense some information that's come through 670 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,080 that that's. Supposed one in five seems about 671 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,440 right too. Yeah, 20% of people. 672 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,360 You know a few people who've met and then absolutely kicked on 673 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,880 off run clubs here, Second one run clubs greater than 674 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,000 nightclubs. So four times more people say 675 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,000 they want to meet new people through a fitness group than at 676 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,239 a bar. Doesn't that doesn't surprise me 677 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,600 at all that that I feel like that's also a reflection of not 678 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,159 only the nightlife scene in Australia in particular, but 679 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,320 also the fitness booming scene. So that actually what that one 680 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,560 doesn't surprise me overly. Yeah, and I kind of we, we, we 681 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,400 chatted a while back about, you know, how do you make the new 682 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,719 nightclub? The new nightclub and those Nike 683 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,280 tried it with the sunset runs, Yeah. 684 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,480 Yeah, let me some of this stuff is probably not as interesting. 685 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:04,520 OK, this is an interesting stat. So how, how quick do you think 686 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,560 the average of all the people I've looked at at Strava 687 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,680 running, what do you think their average speed is in minutes per 688 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,120 kilometre? What do you think the average 689 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,280 person runs on? Can you say on average, but on 690 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:23,280 average? 5. 3622 minutes per kilometre. 691 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,400 Interesting. Interesting which? 692 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,080 Tells me there's a lot of runners out there who are 693 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,000 jogging. Yeah, a lot of joggers, a lot of 694 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,400 hobby joggers, and I think that's a nice number to remember 695 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,160 if you're one of those people out there just. 696 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,760 Starting out. Not only just starting out, but 697 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:46,760 maybe getting caught up in allowing other people's times 698 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,080 and distances to affect you mentally and discourage you from 699 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,840 posting or sharing or recording your data. 700 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,120 I'll be guilty of this, and I'm saying this to somebody who went 701 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,120 through this. Who didn't want to ever I went 702 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,760 through a phase on Strava of not ever wanting to share my runs 703 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,080 that were slower than 5 minute pace because all the people that 704 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,800 I was running with in Sydney were consistently running, you 705 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,000 know, low 4 minute K pace. And I was just like why am I 706 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,800 like why am I not getting faster? 707 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,680 Why am I running slower but? Remember 622? 708 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,680 That is right on average. Now, if you run slower than 622, 709 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,000 that's still OK. Well, this is average. 710 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,680 So it's like, yeah, you're going to run slower than that. 711 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,480 You're going to run quicker than that, But that's just the 712 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,840 average pace, you know, over, over all the users. 713 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:40,760 Now here we get into some of the the Gen Z like the the demos and 714 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,920 what what people think. So for Gen said, mental health 715 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,800 was the main goal for 2025. Main goal for 20 for this year. 716 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,920 So when? When you compare when I say the 717 00:36:53,920 --> 00:37:00,720 main goal, 65% of Gen Z have mental health as a goal for 2025 718 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:05,760 in exercising OK verse Gen X now what's Gen X That's that's. 719 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,240 That's the age group above me. I'm a millennial. 720 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:10,840 I think Oh no I might be a Gen X. 721 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,680 I'm I think I'm on the border of Gen X as well. 722 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,680 Gen X years is 1965 to 1980. Yeah. 723 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,480 So that's Saudis. It's the, it's the demo above. 724 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,080 Mental health is less important to that generation. 725 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,680 That's inverse Gen Z kind of makes sense of what's going on 726 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,320 today and then vice versa. Longevity of being able to 727 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,160 exercise. That seems right on. 728 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,800 Yeah, obviously Gen Gen X then starts to really think about 729 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,000 why. Those younger people, Gen Z, 730 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,960 aren't actually at the point of thinking about their mortality 731 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,160 and ability to move around. But I also think it's like, 732 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,880 great that they've realised it, whether it's through social 733 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,400 media attracting them or telling them to do that. 734 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,720 Yeah. But I think it's also a good 735 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:57,080 thing to realise that exercise is healthy for you, not just 736 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,320 physically. The same reason we always say I 737 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,400 love getting down running. You know, it's, it's more than 738 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,240 just, you know, purely the endorphins you get out of it. 739 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:09,520 All right, let's move on a little bit because I want to get 740 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,880 to the shoes. I want to get to the. 741 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,000 Shoes. They always talk about shoes. 742 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,160 OK. What do you think is the number 743 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:22,840 one shoe and model on Strava used on Strava? 744 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,880 So when you know when you do your Strava run, you can choose 745 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,080 a shoe, plug it in. What would you say the number 746 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,280 one shoe is? So if you're playing along at 747 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,760 home or on your phone, what do you think if. 748 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,760 You're on your own right now. Lock it in. 749 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,160 We'll give you a few seconds to lock it in. 750 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:42,280 In your mind #1 shoe on Strava in Australia or is this 751 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,640 globally? It's global. 752 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,480 Globally, I'm going to say it's Nike. 753 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:55,600 Nike. I'm going to say Nike Pegasus. 754 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,760 Bang on the money. Is it 100%? 755 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,760 Why? Had we said Australia, I don't 756 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,720 know if you can break that. Delayed. 757 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,640 I don't know if you can break this down, but I would pivot and 758 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,200 say it's ASICS. I can't. 759 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,800 I can't. This is this is just me thinking 760 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,240 out loud, but I would say Nike's just too big. 761 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,240 Yep. Too big? 762 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:19,600 OK, Strava would love a breakdown per country. 763 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,240 And, and to that point, cause I've got a pair of the Pegasus, 764 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,120 it's a really easy entry shoe. It's your everyday runner, it's 765 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,600 your everyday trainer. For most people that might be 766 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,240 running 622 pace, it's probably, it's probably a great shoot to 767 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:32,720 run, Yeah. So anyone who thought it might 768 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,800 have been the Hoka that was second the Clifton, But what 769 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,040 really surprised me more than anything, and this is starting 770 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,320 to become less of less of a surprise as we keep talking week 771 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,080 to week, is the Brooks Ghost is number 3. 772 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,440 Number three, wow. Brooks is like this. 773 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,480 It's I think of Brooks, I think of Footlocker. 774 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,160 Yes. Yep. 775 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:05,160 You know, like my kid needs a pair of shoes to bash around in 776 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,320 the schoolyard. Probably. 777 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,480 Brooks Ghost. Brooks are doing a lot, a lot 778 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,040 around the influencer market, right? 779 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,200 They don't concentrate up there on the the elite area. 780 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,080 And maybe This is why it's showing through. 781 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,560 But yeah, Brooks Ghost was #3. OK. 782 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,360 We'll share that, Brooks. Definitely not having a go. 783 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,720 I just I was. Yeah, surprised me. 784 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,520 Surprised me. I would have thought. 785 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,520 I probably would have tried to. I would have guessed. 786 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,600 What would you would have said the other two may have been? 787 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,000 I would have had. You would have an. 788 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,080 ASICS in there, I would have had an ASICS Nova Blast or something 789 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,840 like that because of just because it's a good running 790 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,240 shoot and I might have thought that a few more runners and then 791 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,280 I probably would have actually gone to a New Balance A. 792 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,080 New Balance aren't in there even like Europeans being, you know, 793 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,960 such high population, like I would have like a Adidas or 794 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,520 Adidas like. I don't know enough about Brooks 795 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,560 as a brand, but I'm guessing it's American because I would 796 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,120 say that's a large proportion of. 797 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,720 Maybe we've got to start doing a little bit more research around 798 00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:09,160 here because they keep popping up top tracking devices. 799 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:14,760 So what you use, and this is by model again, what would you say 800 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,880 is the most popular watch, Apple Watch? 801 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,280 Yep, the Apple Watch series take out number one and #2 what do 802 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,560 you think the most popular non Apple product used? 803 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,040 Is Garmin. Yeah, any. 804 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,800 More the I don't really know enough. 805 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,560 I know I've got a Forerunner 955 OK, but that's about the extent 806 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,000 of my. Garlic I can see why this is 807 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,080 number 3 because remember when I talked about what I want out of 808 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,640 AI want simplicity, I want simplicity, I want music and I 809 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,400 just want it to do what I need it to do and it and re 810 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,560 relatively cheap the forerunner 245. 811 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,600 For. This isn't the music version, 812 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,880 but it's literally the lightest, simpler. 813 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,760 I haven't got it around here. The lightest, simplest Garmin 814 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,520 that isn't like a basic model that I wouldn't. 815 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,280 Okay, so it's not I think that I don't know they're models off 816 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,280 hand, but they've got like an 80 or one all these different ones. 817 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,040 This is kind of the basic one I'd say that I'd trust for 818 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,560 running. Still does labs, still does a 819 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,600 whole range of stuff and they get a music version of it. 820 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,440 OK. I don't advocate for it like my 821 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,880 Santos, like have way, way more stuff going on in them, but I 822 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,560 use that one. More, but we've talked about 823 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,920 this and the need for what you really need in a watch and how 824 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,960 many people 12 months on from owning something whizbang, yeah, 825 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,760 might look back and go, jeez, I don't need 80% of this. 826 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,360 Yeah. I wonder if everyone's guessing 827 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,160 this guessing right now this is we go to the top running shoes 828 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,800 overall. So this might be more close to 829 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,680 what you're talking about. OK, top three. 830 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,680 So these are the top. Top running shoe brand overall. 831 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,040 No top running shoe brands for you. 832 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:52,560 So sorry, this is UK runners. Oh, OK, so this. 833 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,840 Is why did they throw UK in here all of a sudden? 834 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,160 Hopefully I haven't got this all wrong now. 835 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,960 This is just the one just for UK, the rest of it's OK so. 836 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:03,920 We're dividing. OK, well I'm just trying to 837 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,080 think I would still probably but this is. 838 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,400 Global like I could, I would still. 839 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,200 Probably have Nike at #1. Nike #1. 840 00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:12,280 I would have Nike at #1 UK. I'd go add it as #2. 841 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:16,760 ASICS, ASICS #2 you were right in thinking ASICS was up there. 842 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,160 Number 3 ASICS. Would be #3 yeah, no, no ogre. 843 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,440 OK. So ASICS clearly has that 844 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,560 British market, which is interesting. 845 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,400 Yeah, it's weird why they put Britain in just that one and 846 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,200 then now they go back to anyway, OK, for those who, because there 847 00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:36,880 are some triathletes who listen to this, I know from, you know, 848 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,720 people think so we'll talk. I'll throw the bikes in there. 849 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,480 Do you know much about your bike brands? 850 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,480 Trek. Number one trek, bang on the 851 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,720 money. I wouldn't have said that. 852 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,600 I would have said who's number two giant specialised. 853 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,960 Specialised. And giant come in #3. 854 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,920 I'm pretty happy to have got two out of the top three. 855 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,960 What do you ride, Liam? I ride a Cannondale. 856 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,120 I don't know what that's, I don't know. 857 00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,960 I don't know. It's about that. 858 00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:03,120 Can I tell you about my bike for those triathletes listening in? 859 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,560 My bike is too big for me because I bought it second hand 860 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:14,880 off somebody in Sydney in 2012 for 1500 bucks and so I've had 861 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,880 it for 12 years now it's done. 10 nurse tries serve me a treat. 862 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,920 Never. Never carried a single spare or 863 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,920 flat or puncture repair kit in any nurse triathlon I've done. 864 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,160 My attitude has always been I get a puncture I'm not meant to 865 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,840 finish. I cannon Cannondale, right? 866 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,440 Yeah. I'm just trying to think. 867 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,640 I got a feeling, so maybe this is what I can bring out when I 868 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,800 get back from where it's going. Now CAD 9. 869 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,320 Well, I kid you not, I think one of my Olympic frames that's in 870 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,400 that cupboard next to us. Yeah, is a Cannondale. 871 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,320 There you go. Have you got your frames here 872 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,520 still? Have you got your Olympic bike? 873 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,480 Frames 2. Olympic Bike. 874 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,200 Frames are just sitting in here. Really. 875 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,640 Maybe that's another show and tell for next week, but. 876 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,880 Can we just quickly, I'm making a mental note and a note for the 877 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,320 in the beginning podcast family. Yeah, don't let me forget to 878 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,920 create the audio version of the Courtney Atkinson Museum. 879 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,440 We've already explored a little bit with your journals. 880 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,720 We've dipped into your shoe museum a little bit, but I think 881 00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:15,280 it's. You, you never, you never see it 882 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,400 anywhere. But no, no, no, this is an audio 883 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,320 product. Yes, I think you probably 884 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,080 underestimate how fascinating it is for the for the everyday 885 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:28,160 person like me to hear, to take a walk down memory lane of your 886 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,840 athletic career with you in person by tangibly touching 887 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,560 things like your journals and your shoes and all that. 888 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,320 So it's just a mental note and an audio note for everybody 889 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,960 listening. Don't let me forget to open the 890 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,520 Courtney Atkinson Museum. Yeah, well, we'll talk about 891 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,400 boyfriends. I only ever kept three OK and 892 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,960 strip them down 'cause I didn't. Didn't Now's not the time to go 893 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,440 into the museum. You keep going with your. 894 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,680 Presentation, like, yeah, my presentation, I sound like I'm a 895 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,520 it's definitely at work. Let's let's move through a few 896 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,240 of these a bit quicker. But more people use their phone 897 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:03,360 for Strava than watches, so 72% of uploads are by their phone. 898 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,000 That that doesn't surprise me. That seems to be right. 899 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,680 Surprise me, really. Yeah. 900 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,120 I mean, if you're, I suppose you're talking about all 901 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,440 activities, we're not just talking about running in that in 902 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,480 that place. Mm hmm. 903 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,200 But when it comes to running, here we go. 904 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,160 I'm just answer my question. When it comes to running, it 905 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:22,480 goes over to GPS watch. So marathoning is 92% of your 906 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,520 phone. Yeah, that you watch stuff. 907 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,200 I like this one. Hot or not, in 2025, we always 908 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,200 talk about trends, which respondents and who approve. 909 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,320 OK, Coordinated workout outfits. This happened. 910 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,440 This is Gold Coast Esplanade. Yeah, like this every day you 911 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,520 walk so. That's hot in 2025. 912 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,560 Is it coordinating your workout outfits? 913 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,240 Well, this one's done by men and women. 914 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,360 Oh, OK. It's split by men and women. 915 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,240 So 69% of women coordinated work want coordinated, 51% of men 916 00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:55,720 want to coordinate. That's higher than I thought. 917 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,760 That's weird. That's basically. 918 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,720 For me, that's weird. Well, out of that basically 919 00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:02,440 means out of you and me, one of us wants the workout outfit 920 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,400 coordinate that is, that's probably. 921 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,160 It's not me, it's. It's hard to coordinate your 922 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,800 workout idea when you take your shirt off all the time. 923 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,360 Yeah, high socks or ankle. Socks. 924 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,840 I know that high socks are in. Jen said 57%. 925 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,680 High. They're all about the high side. 926 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,840 You can't come up to the older gens and and they still run the 927 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,600 ankles. Little bit like the short shorts 928 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,200 I reckon. Yep. 929 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,600 What do we got? Old and oversized T shirts. 930 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,240 This is all that'll be in. It's gin. 931 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:38,080 Yeah. Box loose fit that it's not. 932 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,680 We're not in the muscle band era. 933 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,800 We're not in the. It's generational again mate. 934 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,040 So when we talk about trends, it's, we know it's the younger 935 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,880 crew who are, you know, well, they like the trends. 936 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,280 I think the older you're looking at, the older ages here are just 937 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,640 wanting to get out and run. Yeah, not surprising, no. 938 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,560 Anyway, that's that's really that's really. 939 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,880 Interesting 2024, a bit of a wrapper. 940 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:05,040 I would love to get that six monthly like I that's something 941 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,920 I'd genuinely like every quarter. 942 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,720 I'd be fascinated to know that sort of data about the running 943 00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:12,400 industry. Well, even the personal, the 944 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:17,040 personal data that comes out around your own Strava stuff at 945 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,440 the end of the year, it's just fascinating. 946 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,960 Like, they know, I mean, they know everything, right? 947 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,200 They probably know more than the social media stuff half the time 948 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,480 because you're showing them where you are nearly every day, 949 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,240 where you run, where you. Yeah. 950 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,040 Did you? I heard something fascinating on 951 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:38,320 A and this is the the reality of the Internet and social media 952 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,080 and all the apps and all your phones and everything. 953 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,920 Is it it? It might be serving you a 954 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,920 purpose like strawberries, but ultimately the true agenda of it 955 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,440 is something else. Serving their purpose more. 956 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,400 I heard as I heard on a podcast about Pokemon Go, remember when 957 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,040 there was that phase back in what, 2012 or something 14 when 958 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,160 everyone started playing Pokémon Go and walking around the 959 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,440 streets trying to catch these things? 960 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,720 That and I don't know how true this is, I haven't checked it, 961 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:15,280 but the true reason for it was Geo mapping, right? 962 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,880 They were utilising the world, the population, everyone playing 963 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,080 these games to Geo map the world. 964 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,920 I mean, it, it makes sense, right? 965 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,400 Interesting. Have you have you heard of this 966 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,040 interval app? No, I don't know where to bring 967 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,760 this up. So Louis Phillips has got 968 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,320 something to do with it. Oh yes, and it's no, it's 969 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,640 Pokémon. You shared this with me. 970 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,280 Did I share it? I think. 971 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,040 So Louis the the Melbourne fella? 972 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,880 Yep, the runner. Yep, Yep, Yep, the. 973 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,560 Big Brother contestant turned runner. 974 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,760 Was he on big? Brother, how Are you sure he was 975 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,640 on Big Brother? I'm not sure, but what I do know 976 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,520 is there's much as I know about it. 977 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,120 I mean it, it doesn't really appeal to me, but it's making 978 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,360 running interesting for those who just want to get out there 979 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,120 and run. It sounds like you, you can 980 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,840 capture an area if you run there more and then you own that zone 981 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,280 and then someone can steal it off you. 982 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,560 So is it, I kind of saw it a bit like this. 983 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,160 Pokémon Go out and run somewhere, and then you're 984 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,280 trying to capture all these spots, and then there's a 985 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,880 competition of that's probably a really bad. 986 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,880 Ultimate free running game. To explain it, yeah. 987 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,440 It's a running game. What do you reckon of this? 988 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,800 For me, this won't catch on, no, and I can't explain why. 989 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,320 I did have a look at it when you first sent it through to me and 990 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,080 look, good luck to anybody who's involved in it and want to get 991 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,560 around it. I, I think there's a disconnect 992 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:46,160 between playing of games. Like, I think it's kind of like 993 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,120 you either want to game or you want to train. 994 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,480 Oh, there's a nice little catch phrase. 995 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,680 Put that on a T shirt. You either want to game or you 996 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,200 want to train. And I don't know if there's 997 00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:01,200 enough of a crossover between the people who want to train 998 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,080 that might want to game at the same time. 999 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,440 And and that's what sounds like this is trying to achieve. 1000 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,840 There might, I mean, there, there's obviously an audience 1001 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,200 out there or you wouldn't, you know, get on that road. 1002 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,240 I'm sure they've done some testing, but. 1003 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,760 He was in season 15 of Big Brother. 1004 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,680 Really, 'cause you're wondering? Yeah, I wonder if I must see 1005 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,080 him. I'm now good runner. 1006 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:29,160 I I I think I've told this story like I spent, I drove from Uluru 1007 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,880 to King's Canyon with him one day and the Big Brother never 1008 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,320 came up. And I was quizzing him on a 1009 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,040 whole range of things. A lot of nutrition talk, but 1010 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,000 there you go. There's a new new topic for next 1011 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,040 time. Hey, I need to be honest with 1012 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,080 you and in the beginning family, I haven't run in the shoes yet. 1013 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,880 These one makes Chinese carbon shoes. 1014 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,520 I haven't haven't run in them yet. 1015 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,640 That is half my fault though, because I've brought this 1016 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,280 episode. Well, we're rushed. 1017 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,720 We're rushed. In fact, let's talk about why 1018 00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:00,680 we're rushed now. We're rushed. 1019 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,560 We're recording this a lot earlier in the week than we 1020 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:07,080 would because, because. We want to be in person and I 1021 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,080 last minute am flying to Mauritius. 1022 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,400 Yeah, for those of you like Courtney who didn't know where 1023 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,760 Mauritius was when he said yesterday. 1024 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,480 Well, look, hey, I knew it was over near Africa somewhere, but 1025 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,280 I didn't know, I didn't know exactly where it was. 1026 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,400 That doesn't count at. Least I knew what ocean it was 1027 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,640 in. So East Coast of Africa, there's 1028 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,440 a country called Madagascar, a Big Island. 1029 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,680 I do know Madagascar. Yeah, it's about the same 1030 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,200 distance off the East Coast of Madagascar as Madagascar is off 1031 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,400 the East Coast of Africa. OK, you're flying, flying this 1032 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,520 tiny little island. Yep, for what? 1033 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,480 Out of the blue? I mean, This is why I love Red 1034 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:54,200 Bull. This is you know what? 1035 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,720 I told you at the beginning when we did this, we who you're never 1036 00:52:57,720 --> 00:52:59,960 going to be out of lock. You never know what's coming up 1037 00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:00,920 week to week. This is why. 1038 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,800 I love Red Bull. Yep, and I don't work for them. 1039 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,880 You do, but this is. In this case, I'm running for 1040 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,760 them this week because what, what I'm going over there to do 1041 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,360 is have a look at an event they're looking at running. 1042 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,840 Now. Once I get over there, let's say 1043 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,840 in the next episode, I'll go a lot more in depth because I'll 1044 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,080 have the information. I don't have a lot of 1045 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,320 information. I just got told. 1046 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,200 Can you come over? This was a few days ago. 1047 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,320 Can you get over here? I said amazingly, of course, 1048 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:34,040 what are we doing? So partly I'm, we're going to 1049 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,240 promote an event. So the hardest part of my job 1050 00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:40,480 would be to look good on film. The easy part of my job is also 1051 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,080 probably to go and have a look at the course. 1052 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,640 There's a trail run involved in this event for my understanding. 1053 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,640 And I mean, I hope it's an epic trail run, but like, look at it 1054 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,680 from a safety point of view, look at it from a running point 1055 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,640 of view, a flow point of view, and help to make sure that when 1056 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,640 this event goes live that, you know, everything's ticked off 1057 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,400 nice and dandy. You probably don't appreciate 1058 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,680 this, but you are. We're talking about this before 1059 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:07,160 we start to record that you are uniquely positioned probably 1060 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,960 globally. There's probably not a lot of 1061 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,920 you that can actually do what you do, which is to A evaluate a 1062 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:21,720 course from a safety perspective B evaluate a course from a race 1063 00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:24,560 perspective, as in run ability and performance. 1064 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,160 Interest. How mate, is it interesting? 1065 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:35,600 Film it and then also run it to the level that your winners. 1066 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,880 We'll run it. The the you are uniquely you're 1067 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,640 there. You have a very you're like Liam 1068 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,280 Neeson. You have a unique set of skills. 1069 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,280 You have a truly intaken in the film. 1070 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,320 Yeah, yeah. You're like Liam Neeson's 1071 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,320 character in Taken. You've built up a unique set of 1072 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,240 skills which now has you position to when Red Bull calls 1073 00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:57,000 and says we need you in Mauritius. 1074 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,440 You are a lot like Liam Neeson's character in Taken. 1075 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,640 Actually, you can say yes to this. 1076 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,880 This is, and again, I don't work for Red Bull. 1077 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,760 I love Red Bull for this reason that they pick up the phone to 1078 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,520 you and say, hey, we need you to get to Mauritius to evaluate 1079 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,160 this race we're gonna put. On yeah and I it's so cool and 1080 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,360 mate I even get excited on these ones it's awesome where it's 1081 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,920 just like you know I was going about my day one day and the 1082 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,720 next day you're like have you got enough time to get yeah get 1083 00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:23,800 over there and then you know gotta be back next week at a 1084 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,480 certain time but yeah we can make it work it's. 1085 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,000 So exciting and I'm now more now I'm already excited for next 1086 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,400 week. That's next week, but that's why 1087 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,360 you haven't done your. That's why haven't because I 1088 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,480 said. Before I get on a plane tonight, 1089 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,120 let's let's jump on and and get this done so. 1090 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,120 I haven't yet run in the Chinese carbons. 1091 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,160 I've had a lot of people ask me about them though, but they are 1092 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,640 in my car ready to do. I'm going to go out and do an 1093 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,480 interval session. OK, well, while we're talking 1094 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,040 about shoes, I'm going to keep stocking you up because I said, 1095 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,160 I said the gift, the joke gift was the shoes. 1096 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,280 Well, they may not turn out to be a joke, who knows? 1097 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,800 But the real gift was still in the mail and I'll give it a good 1098 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,240 pair of Salomon have sent you. You know, this is in the lead up 1099 00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:03,840 to our Salomon Golden Trail series at Kanani that we're 1100 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,280 running. So this is the new. 1101 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:11,520 I saw you post about these. So these are the Ultra, What are 1102 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,840 they on there? Ultra Glide 3 This is their new 1103 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,360 trail shoe this. Is the Ultra glide. 1104 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,080 This is the. Third version of their trail 1105 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,240 shoe. Now it's got this like. 1106 00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:21,680 In French, blue lunar rock and cherry tomato. 1107 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:22,960 Yeah. Do you like the colour? 1108 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,080 I do, yeah. Talk to me about. 1109 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:30,120 So what I was posting is the the S lab version of this shoe, 1110 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:34,600 which is like, you know, the top of their range, $400.00 plus 1111 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,840 shoe. This is the more stock standard 1112 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,160 that I want you to try first. I'm also running in these to 1113 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,800 give them a go. And if you like these and if you 1114 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,960 want to run in them, then we're going to get you in the elites 1115 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,440 for no, absolutely no excuses. But the purpose of that, if you, 1116 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,960 if you can see on the camera, it's got this soul and, and the 1117 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,200 purpose around it is that as you're running over trail and 1118 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,560 rocks and roots, the sole will actually conform a little bit 1119 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,080 more. Think like when you go 4 wheel 1120 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,600 driving and you let your tyres down on sand or let your tyres 1121 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,760 down on mud, or you let your tyres down to be able to go 1122 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,680 across roots and that type of thing a lot easier. 1123 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,760 This is a super responsive sole with a lot of rubber, but then 1124 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,440 also has that same type of purpose of being able to like 1125 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,560 give you good contact on the trail. 1126 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,920 This is a very different like shoe. 1127 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,400 It is very different. I'm interested to see what you 1128 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,800 think. I ran in it, not a lot in it and 1129 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,880 I was out on a kind of flatter trail, so I didn't give it a 1130 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,320 great test. I ran in on the weekend for the 1131 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,720 first time out at the property, out on the farm where I was 1132 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,240 riding bikes. And initially when I ran the 1133 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,280 1st, I take back sometimes you know what a shoe is going to 1134 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,560 because when I put it on I was actually like, I'm not sure. 1135 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,040 I'm not sure. By the end of that run I was 1136 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,600 falling forward and running well and it's soft and I'm looking 1137 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,800 forward to taking on some technical trails to try. 1138 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:03,160 I'm really interested to try this because it feels very just 1139 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,560 in my hand. I'm don't even know about my 1140 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:09,240 shoe yet but it feels very different to sense ride. 1141 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,240 Is that what I've been running in? 1142 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:11,960 Central Ride Central ride was quite hard. 1143 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,520 Yeah, the sense ride which I which I like running in. 1144 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:15,800 Different. This feels like a different 1145 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,520 generation, different generation of shoes. 1146 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,280 So you're looking at probably more, you know, what you're 1147 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,440 seeing coming out in Rd shoes from, you know, Nova blasts and 1148 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,800 asses and a whole range of things like the big, you know, 1149 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,240 there's a lot of rubber. Lot of rubber and. 1150 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,800 It's really responsive. And I'm really interested to see 1151 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,680 how this sole goes, because yeah, it does. 1152 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,400 It's. Got like golf ball dimples all 1153 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,600 over. It's yeah, this, it's quite a, 1154 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,880 it's quite an innovative shoe. It's like, it's like the like 1155 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,400 the the sole of it has been hail damaged, yes, but you know, 1156 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,000 that's what I expect the bonnet of a car to look like after a 1157 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,040 hailstorm. Yeah. 1158 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,360 And I mean the the just from a trail running perspective the 1159 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,840 the tread pattern isn't overly aggressive so. 1160 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,440 There's not big thick lugs on that. 1161 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,120 There's a lot of. Huge, you know, it's not a super 1162 00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,600 aggressive, so whether those dimples or hail damage as you 1163 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,520 called it actually add to that grippiness because there's like 1164 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,760 the underneath the lugs, the sole of the shoe isn't flat. 1165 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,400 Tell you what tell tell the good people at Salomon. 1166 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,680 Feel free to use that as the descriptive. 1167 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:14,000 I'm not. Sure. 1168 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,600 What was? That the hail damage. 1169 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,160 The hail damage. Got the hail damage so I. 1170 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,320 Think I think the the golf ball damages probably. 1171 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,880 That's amazing and I'll get out and have. 1172 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,080 A try. We do want to hear about the 1173 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,640 Chinese ones. I've now got shoes to review. 1174 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,600 You're starting to start. Travels and I've got the Chinese 1175 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,240 I'm genuinely excited running the in the Chinese carbon plate 1176 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,600 shoes and we had somebody hit us up I don't have his details to 1177 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,880 hand who uses the just. A training version the. 1178 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,720 Training version of those mix 1 Chinese carbon plate shoes. 95 1179 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:47,040 bucks for training version shoes loves them so you know there's 1180 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,840 something to it. We haven't got to help. 1181 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,160 Well, we haven't had a full week, but what have you been 1182 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,160 doing running? Run week. 1183 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,720 Just quickly, I will jump into this because I think it was last 1184 00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,080 week or the week before I mentioned that I would had 1185 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,600 something of a I'd hit a bit of a, a dead end with my threshold 1186 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,880 runs. I've been sort of essentially 1187 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,640 reluctant to jump into anything quick. 1188 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,720 Yes. And then I went and did a quick 1189 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:17,600 run and felt great. I'm actually off the back of the 1190 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,120 most recent week I'm, I've now got a similar mental block 1191 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:26,280 around long runs because I, I've got another 4 1/2 hour week of 1192 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,840 running behind me. I'm, I'm being fairly 1193 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,760 consistent. I think probably the last month 1194 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:35,840 I'm stacking up 50K weeks anywhere between 4 1/2 to five 1195 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,880 hours depending on how much trail running I'm doing as part 1196 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,280 of that. So my training's actually quite 1197 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,640 consistent from a kilometres and time on feet perspective, but on 1198 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:48,480 the weekend, Saturday and Sunday, I had the intention of 1199 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:53,400 doing a long run both days now. So 2 long runs, well, long the. 1200 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,040 Intention was to run longer on Sunday morning, OK. 1201 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,760 And I ended up pulling up at about 14 KS. 1202 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,680 I'd run for an hour and 10 minutes or thereabouts. 1203 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,080 I'd done 14 KS. I had to get to the kids 1204 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,480 swimming lessons. I slept in. 1205 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,720 I had a bit of a sleep in and so I called it right. 1206 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,960 But then I walked away and I kind of went. 1207 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,480 Well, I haven't really done a long run. 1208 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,640 And then Sunday arrives and I had, it was on BBQ duty at the 1209 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:23,000 Nippers with my kids. So we went from that after 1210 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:29,360 Nippers we went to, I went back home and had a bunch of house 1211 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:30,680 stuff to do. I think there was something 1212 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,040 there's another chore in there or something. 1213 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,650 But then ended up going around to my in laws for my mother in 1214 01:01:34,653 --> 01:01:37,400 law's birthday and basically it got to Sunday evening and I 1215 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,680 still hadn't run. And so I took my shoes and stuff 1216 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,920 with me to my in laws house and thinking well I'll run home and 1217 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,200 I'll try and turn this into a long. 1218 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:46,600 Run. I saw this on Strava and 1219 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,280 wondered. And, and running from Tweed 1220 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,600 Heads back to my joint and I ended up and it was a 16K run, 1221 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:58,440 right, But still not really a long run. 1222 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:03,000 And I think I could have kept going and turned it into a 20K 1223 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,120 session or you know, a hour 45 run. 1224 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:13,160 But again, I pulled up and I and I don't quite know why short of 1225 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,920 going, there's just a bit of a mental block at the moment in my 1226 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,240 head about running if I'm, unless I'm out in the trail. 1227 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,000 Because if I've been up in the rain the last couple of weekends 1228 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,360 on and off and there's that 17 K loop in there, which takes me 1229 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,280 somewhere around an hour, 45 hour 50. 1230 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,800 And that's fine. It's a loop and I know I'm going 1231 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,360 to complete it and I'll get back. 1232 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,640 But this mental block I've got in my head at the little moment 1233 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,240 which I need to get past because I want to do marathons this year 1234 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:46,480 and I want to run well of that sort of 20 K 2 hour barrier that 1235 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,960 I'm just having to kind of process in my head at the moment 1236 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:50,680 of working through. And I don't know why. 1237 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,400 And I don't really have a reason for it other than I just haven't 1238 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,320 been able to go through it and make the time and concentrated 1239 01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,760 effort to. This has to be a over 2 hour run 1240 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,480 or this has to be a 20K plus run. 1241 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,080 But I think, I think the way to get around that is find someone 1242 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,640 as soon as you go out and run with someone and you're 1243 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,200 accountable to, you know, you said the other week when you ran 1244 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,840 with Rosie out in the forest and you ran 17K and then we were 1245 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,280 going to run on it last weekend and I said you wanted to do 2 1246 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:18,840 hours. Well, if I was running with you, 1247 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,960 that's a good point, you would do the two hours. 1248 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,240 I'd drag you through the two hours, but that's what that that 1249 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,200 that's the accountability of having someone to run, 1250 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,800 especially like long runs. I think we made that point last 1251 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,840 week when we were talking about why is everyone doing them on a 1252 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,680 Sunday. Well, part it was a great answer 1253 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:39,680 around you want to do it with others sometimes as better doing 1254 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,800 it with others and most people do it on a Sunday. 1255 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,440 So because that's what makes sense. 1256 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,840 But you always find someone else to keep you accountable. 1257 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,320 And I think that's how you'll get over that little bit of a 1258 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:49,160 hump. Thank you. 1259 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:53,160 How's your running week? We'll talk about long runs who 1260 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,520 went on a 30 KR I know on on Sunday. 1261 01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:01,080 So. 30 KS on the dirt. On the dirt, so I was out. 1262 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,600 I actually went out to my brother in law's property. 1263 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,640 Main reason was I got my I was explained last week. 1264 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,600 I got my motorbike back where on the motor? 1265 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,200 Yep, blown the engine. So I took my son out and the 1266 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,640 family and we went out riding. But it's also an amazing place 1267 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:20,000 to run because so you're out the back of Warwick, you're on, 1268 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,160 there's just dirt roads throughout the properties out 1269 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,920 there. Now, I've looked a few times of 1270 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,560 where this particular property area is and there's a loop that 1271 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,960 goes around. And if I want to do the loop, I 1272 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:36,520 know it's 30 K. So the decision then becomes, do 1273 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,400 I run down the road 10K and back down and pack 10K and I can 1274 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:41,640 handle 20K? Yep. 1275 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,080 But I've been really wanting to run. 1276 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,640 So this weekend on us, I'm I'm going out before I get on the 1277 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:47,560 ball. I'm going to get up early, I'm 1278 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,280 going to get this done. But then I'm thinking 30K is a 1279 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,680 damn long way and this is undulating. 1280 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,640 OK, let's make this a bit easier. 1281 01:04:55,640 --> 01:05:00,600 Let's do 5K easy, and then let's do 5K and a bit better tempo. 1282 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,680 So I had a goal. I wanted to be my heart rate to 1283 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:07,800 be between 1:30 to 1:40 for the 1st 5K and then between 1:40 to 1284 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:12,720 1:50 for the next 5K. Yeah, three times. 1285 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,920 So you bring it back down. Yeah, I wanted to do like 5K 1286 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:21,840 easy, 5K tempo, 5K easy, 5K tempo, 5K easy, ideally 5K 1287 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,480 tempo. Can I just quickly where you're 1288 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,120 talking heart rate there for a moment, How hard is it for you 1289 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,840 to, once you've elevated into that 151 one, 4150 range to 1290 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,800 bring it back down? Like how dramatically was your 1291 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,520 third 5K time wise from your first five? 1292 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,400 K Well, a little bit of the story was I haven't, I've driven 1293 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:42,760 around this loop, I've never run it. 1294 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,000 And I didn't realise this, the way back on the other side of 1295 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,680 this loop is uphill the whole way. 1296 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,920 So I was running, I was obviously running easy to begin 1297 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,160 with because it was slightly skewed downhill, but all the 1298 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,680 time. But to answer your question 1299 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,600 around how like it's quite a significant change that team 1300 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:06,840 beats the easier running. I was clocking along at probably 1301 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:12,400 around about that 4:30 to four minute, like a 4:15 to four 30s. 1302 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:18,640 Now in that first 5K tempo, I did see a three A 332 split in 1303 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,960 there a little bit quick. Yeah, because my the wheels fell 1304 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:23,920 off. I haven't, I haven't gone out 1305 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,640 and run. We've run 2 hours in the forest, 1306 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,520 even 2 hours 10 where we're just jogging around the trails, but 1307 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,800 haven't really got out there and done that kind of long just on 1308 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:33,880 the flat. Yeah. 1309 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,840 You know, kind of like just on a road where you just got to keep 1310 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,320 turning the legs, turning the legs. 1311 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,760 So I was a bit hunger flooded by the end of it. 1312 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,480 I had a gel at about an hour 30 still didn't really help. 1313 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,920 The last UK were pretty disgusting to be honest. 1314 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,080 What did you run out there with like nutrition wise? 1315 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,440 Oh, nothing. I just got up, had a coffee, and 1316 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,520 then I had a gel with me at an hour and a half into the run or 1317 01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:58,840 an hour 40 into the run. That's it. 1318 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,920 Yeah. You didn't have any hydration? 1319 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,720 No, jeez, I paid. I paid for it to a degree. 1320 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,400 There it is. I got back. 1321 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,880 I got back on the bikes. We rode all day and then when I 1322 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,800 finally got home to unpack, then I started getting head spins and 1323 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,360 and stuff like that. Now what where I'm going with 1324 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,320 this? Like I'm glad I got out there 1325 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,240 because it gives me a bit of a benchmark to know. 1326 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:22,760 Yep, I haven't done that for a long time. 1327 01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,080 So it kind of gave me a benchmark to know. 1328 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,040 Benchmarking Run. You've heard that before. 1329 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,960 Yep, and what it made me think was the next two mornings I've 1330 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:36,960 got up I've been hungry. That run has affected me over a 1331 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,000 few days now. I'm still trying to play catch 1332 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,880 up. So what happened on that run and 1333 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:48,440 depleting myself on that run has now caused me two days of pain. 1334 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,680 And when I say pain, not like painful. 1335 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,280 No pain. In the sense that I haven't been 1336 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,280 able to do what I wanted to do for the next two mornings. 1337 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,200 So this morning on a Tuesday, when I wanted to go down and run 1338 01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,960 fart like with the boys at the spit, I had to take it easy and 1339 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,680 pull up. And I'm a bit sore and there's a 1340 01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,400 whole range of things going on which I'm kind of a bit of 1341 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,200 annoyed about. But at the same time, if you 1342 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,200 don't do it, you don't know. This is, do you know what's 1343 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:14,720 coming back to me is there was a somebody told me after I ran 1/2 1344 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:19,160 marathon in September last year and said APB and then found 1345 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,319 myself frustrated about my running a week later. 1346 01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:24,479 Somebody told me, yeah, that's because you pushed your body to 1347 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,800 somewhere it hasn't been before or been in a while. 1348 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,720 Been in a while so. I think that person was Courtney 1349 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,240 Atkins. That was pretty much it mate. 1350 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,840 What I just, yeah, so great place to run. 1351 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,319 Got out for a long run and and I'm kind of paying for it a 1352 01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:39,200 little bit now, but yeah, right, wouldn't change it. 1353 01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:43,279 No how now I want to go and run. Now I've got to find someone to 1354 01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:45,479 run a long. So this so this week I mean I 1355 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,160 have no idea what running will look like this week I. 1356 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,439 You're literally getting on a plane after we finish this. 1357 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,680 Yep, we press stop and you you're off to the airport. 1358 01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,880 Straight up to Brizzy going some of it we didn't know last, but I 1359 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,560 don't even know like I don't know what I mean I do I did have 1360 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,920 a quick look at the map and I see there's a big National Park 1361 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,279 there, so I'm I'm hoping it's you know pretty great running 1362 01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:10,600 through there I. Speak French there, by the way. 1363 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,479 That's the reason they're going. I speak French. 1364 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,040 That's not going to help me. The capital is Port Louis, or 1365 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,520 Port Louis probably, as they say, have. 1366 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,160 I told you one of my big regrets around French. 1367 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:20,680 No. Are we? 1368 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,319 Stated. Is it in this journal? 1369 01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:24,399 No. It's it's. 1370 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,160 Because I feel like everything else is it's it's. 1371 01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:33,840 Later, later than the journal. Now look, because we, I was 1372 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,200 residing I suppose in France for about 6 years, like six months 1373 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,520 here, six months there and back and forth. 1374 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,760 But because we're with all the Aussies and we had like Aussie 1375 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,200 masseurs, Aussie physios, you know, coaches to talk at the 1376 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,560 pool and everything, I never except for a bit of restaurant 1377 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:49,760 French when we have to go and eat. 1378 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,200 I never, ever bothered. You know, there's all those 1379 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,080 times you look back and, you know, I said how excited I am to 1380 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,640 get to go away and do these things. 1381 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,760 But then there's also a lot of things I look back at and go, 1382 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,440 oh, have you only had your time over again? 1383 01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:04,360 Like the, the you, you take it for granted at the time. 1384 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:05,760 I suppose that's what I'm trying to say. 1385 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,720 And now I'm kind of like looking at those opportunities, having a 1386 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,040 bit like a bit of a longer view at it going, yeah, they're too 1387 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,840 good to miss. What I'll say to you, the French 1388 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,440 stuff, it's not too late, not too late to learn some French, 1389 01:10:18,440 --> 01:10:19,920 not too late to do all that sort of stuff. 1390 01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:24,440 The I, I did French at high school for seven years, did it 1391 01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:27,640 in year 12. And I remember, I'll tell the 1392 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,920 story very quickly because we have gone how long we did, We 1393 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,120 did the time. All right, we're going all 1394 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,840 right. It was over in Biarritz, down 1395 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:40,280 the South of France with Alana and we, we're down there for the 1396 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,040 surfing. It had been a series of errors 1397 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,600 from a planning perspective. The campsite we were staying at 1398 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,560 was miles away from the beach, and we ended up basically having 1399 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,800 a hitchhike everywhere this entire time we were down there. 1400 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,880 Now, when we first got to Beiritz, my French extended as 1401 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,040 far as asking everybody, do you speak English in French? 1402 01:11:00,440 --> 01:11:03,440 And most of them all spoke English, so just spoke in 1403 01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:05,880 English. As it turned out, when we were 1404 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,280 flying back to London, where we were living at the time, we 1405 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,120 needed to fly out of Beiritz. We're staying. 1406 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:14,120 We're up the coast in Hausigur about two hours and then as we 1407 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,440 got to the bus stop on the Sunday, I read the sign in 1408 01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:18,840 French. I went, I'm pretty sure that 1409 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:23,680 says buses don't run on Sundays. We then had to hitchhike to make 1410 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,800 a sign up and hitchhike proper down to back to the airport. 1411 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,720 And we ended up by this point we'd all we'd both hit hit our 1412 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,000 limits and we were hysterical and things we weren't angry or 1413 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,560 frustrated. We were just laughing about how 1414 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,480 silly the whole situation was. This whole couple picked us up 1415 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,360 in the car. Now he spoke English like I 1416 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,000 spoke French and Alana didn't speak French and this bloke's 1417 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,240 wife didn't speak English. So I'm in the front with him. 1418 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,160 Alana and the wife are in the back not talking to each other, 1419 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,160 smiling. And he and I, and remember 3-4 1420 01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,880 days earlier the extent of my French was do you speak English? 1421 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:05,440 By the end of this car trip, we were I was talking with him 1422 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:11,000 about the idea of Quebec seceding from Canada and 1423 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,560 becoming its own country. That's how quickly. 1424 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,680 The French. Comes back when necessity 1425 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,680 dictates that part of your brain to reactivate. 1426 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,240 So I would say to you mate, you're about to go to Mauritius. 1427 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,880 Just jump into some French. You reckon 5 days I'll come back 1428 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,040 fluid? Just try it mate, try your hand. 1429 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:31,600 What is it palevo on angle? Yeah, Palevo angle. 1430 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:32,560 There you go. You start. 1431 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,240 Yeah. And you're away and you're 1432 01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,600 bilingual now. Courtney, this is great. 1433 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,680 This is great. I'm genuinely so excited for you 1434 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,480 to get Mauritius. This is, I can't wait to hear 1435 01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:43,600 about this next week on the on the podcast quickly before I've 1436 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:44,560 got one more thing. Sorry. 1437 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:49,600 OK, this idea, I want to, I want to put it out to the podcast 1438 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,640 family very quickly. I text you about this the other 1439 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:59,360 day, a video series, an extension of the podcast called 1440 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,680 Courtney Villa. This is the idea of explaining, 1441 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,920 wow, I haven't quite figured it out in my head yet. 1442 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,400 I probably should have thought about it more, but the idea 1443 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:13,360 being you and I race now, we can't race match race, right? 1444 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,360 We can't race head to head because it just, we know how 1445 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,600 that race ends every time. But what I'm thinking is in my 1446 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:27,600 head, it's like a game of golf. Well, I know where we can start, 1447 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,280 Liam. I know exactly where you're 1448 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,960 going with this, Kinani Salomon Golden. 1449 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,600 Trail Salomon, Golden Trail, Kanani. 1450 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,600 Well, you we have a handicap. We have a handicap race, right? 1451 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,440 We you give me it's we we work out of time and I'm going to say 1452 01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:44,000 I'm going to outrun you by. Yep. 1453 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,360 Whatever minutes I haven't. Even now, we're going to have to 1454 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:47,160 I. Haven't even looked at the 1455 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:48,760 course of the application but this. 1456 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,800 Is because this in my head, we can do this from everything from 1457 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,600 Park Run Yep, to the Narain Trail to the marathon later this 1458 01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,720 year. We can do it over every, we can 1459 01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,680 do all these things. But I do like the idea of, I 1460 01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,960 think it was because you sent me that that video of the the race 1461 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:09,040 of the one pro chasing down all those amateur runners in that 1462 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:13,400 uphill Japan race. All the Rebel 400 up the stage 1463 01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:14,960 jump. And there's that one guy trying 1464 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:16,440 to chase down all the amateurs. Trying to get. 1465 01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:19,480 Through them in my head I went, oh that would be a fun race idea 1466 01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:24,040 if Courtney has to start park run 4 minutes behind me and see 1467 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,960 if he can chase me down. Sounds like a. 1468 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:28,080 Plan. Anyway, I'm gonna keep working 1469 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,200 on that. We'll keep, we'll keep working 1470 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,920 on that idea. Have before we go have you? 1471 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,600 Have you seen this trend where people wearing their Apple 1472 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:42,800 Watches on their on their ankle? No, and I don't want to say it. 1473 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,360 What do you mean they're wearing it on their ankle? 1474 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,320 It's a trend, a trend. Trend. 1475 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:51,560 It's not a trend A. Trend of gym goers putting the 1476 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:55,000 Apple Watch on their ankle. Why? 1477 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,240 This is a full on trend happening. 1478 01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,160 Why even your dog's upset about it? 1479 01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:05,120 Yeah, the dog's gone nuts. Yeah, he is upset about it. 1480 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:06,560 I'm upset. I'm upset about. 1481 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,240 It is there a? Is there a reason? 1482 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,160 I think it's got, so I've read that it's got to do with 1483 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,320 someone's come out and said when I wear my Apple Watch, I want it 1484 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,240 on my on my wrist. If I'm lifting weights and that 1485 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:20,760 type of thing, it can get in the way. 1486 01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:24,680 We'll take it off. But here's 5 reasons. 1487 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,960 OK, can I yell at these five reasons? 1488 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:32,840 Five reasons why OK it it it defeats the whole purpose. 1489 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,120 Oh, these are the five reasons it defeats you. 1490 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:35,920 Are you? No, no. 1491 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,120 Well, it defeats the whole purpose. 1492 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:38,600 Well, I don't know. I've got 5 reasons. 1493 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:39,680 I'll just pick that out of the air. 1494 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:45,360 But well, so the only reason I can see it being purposeful is 1495 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,240 yeah for steps. But if you only want your steps 1496 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,200 out of a watch. Then keep it on your wrist. 1497 01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,440 Oh go and get one of those trackers that don't do do 1498 01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:57,600 anything other than that the heart rate works better on the 1499 01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,200 wrist. I can't see it working real 1500 01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,800 great on the ankle for most people. 1501 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,160 I don't think it actually. You'd have to change the band to 1502 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:05,840 be larger to fit around your ankle. 1503 01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:11,800 Yep, you got to damage that watch at some point. 1504 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,760 Yep. Which Apple watches aren't 1505 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:14,480 cheap? Nope. 1506 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,680 And then finally, and I did steal this one look like you 1507 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:25,320 just come out of prison. Don't wear your Apple Watch. 1508 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,120 Don't wear your. Apple Watch Don't get a marathon 1509 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:32,000 tattoo or wear your Apple Watch around your ankles, right? 1510 01:16:32,440 --> 01:16:35,000 We don't like, we don't like dictating here on In the 1511 01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,520 Beginning Pub. We're never going to tell you 1512 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,680 how to run or what to weave. We're corny. 1513 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,560 I love that you'll only ever give your advice based on what 1514 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,040 works for you, but here's some things we. 1515 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,840 Will definitely say I'm definitely saying just don't 1516 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:48,480 wear it on your. Ankle. 1517 01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:51,320 Don't wear it on your ankle anyway. 1518 01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,240 Anyway mate, well we'll see where we get to. 1519 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:54,600 Travels. Yep. 1520 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,320 So when are you back? I will be back next. 1521 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,560 I've got to be down in Sydney next Wednesday the 26th. 1522 01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:02,400 Yep. So I'm back when. 1523 01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:03,720 Are you back here? When are you back here? 1524 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:06,280 Friday. Saturday. 1525 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,920 OK, so we're going to do an app next. 1526 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,680 Week we We will probably be online next. 1527 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,280 But it might be maybe on the computes. 1528 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:14,960 Let's see, let's see where we end up. 1529 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,600 But hopefully I've got some interesting stories to tell. 1530 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,880 Can I please have a fridge magnet from Mauritius? 1531 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:24,280 I'll see what I can do. Later. 1532 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,400 Thanks mate. We'll see you next week. 1533 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:26,000 See you next week.