In the beginning episode 39, three weeks out from the Gold
Coast Marathon. I hope you're enjoying the Gold
Coast Marathon special episodes we've been dropping, but
Courtney Atkinson as people are listening to this on their
Saturday morning run. Where are you right now?
We're in the thick of Red Bull race the sun, so this is
probably the most stressful 24 hours of my year and I'm not
running. I'm trying to organise this
thing. We've a we've a great team from
Red Bull, of course, but you know, in the end, the buck stops
with me. So you're in.
So today, while people listen to this, if you listen to this on
your Saturday morning or on your Saturday, you are in race
director mode. This remind us what race the sun
is. Yeah, so Race the Sun is that is
the the event we talked about where we've got 15 teams and six
runners and in real life fashion they've got to go from Gold
Coast starting at the sunrise and we're going to get a sunrise
this year for the first time by the looks of it.
It's nice crisp, clear days. And then they've got to go 345
kilometres, 7700 metres of vertical elevation.
There's trail sections, there's Rd, there's dirt, with the goal
of getting to Tenterfield, which is out in northern NSW before
the sun rises again the next morning.
So 24 hours. And we did the maths on the the
pace. 411 I. Was about to say the we the
maths has been done on the rough pace they need to average
throughout all those numbers. Yep, it's.
Quick, it's quick. But you know what this year we I
know it's a great absolute great turn out.
So I've got a message you know we're we're we're talking about
guys running across Australia at the moment.
It's a hot topic. Got a message from Chris
Turnbull, really the guy we talked about last week who had
the. Record before William Googe
broke it. He's out there running today, is
he? Really.
Yep. Yep.
Oh. Wow, he's coming.
We've got a couple of sub 220 runners coming from New Zealand
all the way across the ditch, so it could be an earlier morning
than I thought at the at the finish 'cause there's some solid
crew coming out. We've got her trails, which is
Samantha Gash coming up from Melbourne and her team.
Yeah. So there's some really, it's a
wide range of people out there doing it.
And they'll be out there, as you know, in the middle of the
night, and it's gonna, they're calling it an Arctic.
Blast. Oh yeah, it's cold here.
It's cold. Here at the moment, so 6° here
on the Gold Coast, I know coming back from the trials this
morning it was 19, so the days are going to be fine, but
Kanungra this morning was -1. Yeah, it's there's, there's some
proper chill in the morning. OK, so make some predictions for
us quickly then. You've just talked about some of
the that's awesome that Chris Turnbull's come in.
You've got that elite pointy end of the spectrum.
How many teams beat the Sun? Oh well, we have made it a
little bit harder this year with making one like some sections
where we're making 1 runner run like so 1:00 AM at night, yeah,
there's a runner from each team's gonna have to run a half
marathon along a dirt Rd before they get back into the mix of,
you know, switching over. There's, you know, we're making
some people run or runners from the team run up like quite up
Beechmont, up the back here, large hills.
So come on, how many? How many make it?
I'm going to tip, I'm going to go for about the same as last
year. You know, on average I reckon
we'll get about 5 teams make it. I've got a feeling, I've got a
bad feeling that the fastest team this year is going to go a
lot a little bit quicker than the fastest team last year,
which is going to throw my whole works of how, you know, we
structure the event out. But I mean that's it.
We can't control who comes and the fact that we've got, I think
they they said the Kiwi team coming over, they've got three
guys who have run under 220 and their female runners are both
kind of three hour E type runners.
I don't want to create more work for you because I know as people
listen to this, you are flat stick, right?
You're in work mode. But I would love, if possible,
for you to bring to the show the pod next week.
Some reactions at finish line, kind of just like some some vox
pops, as we call them in the radio game.
Some recordings of people at the finish.
Line we we've got a, we've got a content team, they're doing that
type of stuff so. We'll delegate.
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure we'll, we'll delegate get some of that
for. Sure.
In that case, I want some voice pop, vox pops, I want some
camera shots, I want a reel I want.
If you're listening, jump onto In the Beginning podcast
Instagram today, and I'll share some stories as we go along the
way. Awesome.
I'll be putting them on my channel, Greg.
We'll be putting them on their channel and yeah, so literally,
yeah, share them for sure. Let's do that.
But wait, you talk about a week I've had New Zealand with.
I'll talk about that later. What are you doing over there?
OK. We'll get that into my week and
running. But like, yeah, you know, you
talk about trying to, what do they say?
Bite off more than you can chew? It's it's one of those weeks.
One of those weeks that but we are counting down to the Gold
Coast Marathon as well. Three weeks out or yeah, what
are we three weeks out from from start day for that You sent me a
reel that I think I, I don't think this is going to be a
thing. But you you're convinced that
the Gold Coast Marathon might need a smoking section.
I'm, I'm, I'm thinking, you know, like when you go to an
airport and they've got a boxed off area and now have to go to
have your ciggies. I'm, I'm thinking Gold Coast
Marathon may need this at the finish line.
A glass, a glass house to put the smokers in.
Have it. It's becoming a trend.
It's not, it's not. I'm.
I send it to you. Yeah.
That that fella. Matt Johnson, I think his name
was Matt. Johnson Look, I don't know what
he's doing, but he is a fit looking dude sitting in front of
a treadmill. Finished his session, got the
darts out. Look, this is.
This is. Silly off the back of the
William. Good stuff with the finishing
each day with a a cigarette and a beer.
I mean, it's not like this is, this is classic social media.
This is classic stupid social media.
This is, is, is idiocy. And it's the monkey see, monkey
do behaviour. And in the same way, I think
it's irresponsible of people who don't know how to give running
advice to go on Instagram and give running advice.
It's also stupid for people to think that smoking a cigarette
after your exercise is going to help you break a running across
Australia record like it. It's just, it's just dumb.
As long as people can appreciate for what it is, yeah, that's
fine. There's a bit of bit of bit of
theatre. Going on, but yeah, like that's
the last thing you want to be promoting, right?
But it's also, I also think that all these people, this is that
whole thing about imitating, right?
If someone's already doing it, William Gurge has got this
right. He's made the most noise about
it. He's run across Australia and
he's done darts and he's had beers and all the rest of it he
had. That's his thing now.
If you want to become an influencer, if you want to
become a personality within this space, find something else
that's taken. Don't jump on that train and try
and make it your thing too, because you're you can only ever
be second to it. Yeah.
Same. Don't don't think you can go and
do cream doughnuts after you run.
Happy Alan, Happy. Alan's already got the the Long
John market team. Leave it alone.
That's his. Thing.
Find a new thing. And trust me, the way happy is
the way Alan, his real name's Alex, but the way Alan is
rolling, let him have it. That looks tough just having to
when you make that thing, you think put.
Weight on. He he has, he reckons he's
getting fat. For anyone for anyone listening
he doesn't know this is a guy on on social media who literally
everyday he just finds what the best no he.
Basically, I, I again, I'll talk about him for a moment because
we had him on the radio show. His name's Alex.
Everyone calls him Alan, so he's happy.
Alan on Instagram. Big shout out.
I'm a, we had him in studio. He's a great fella.
He's a young bloke, was working for an asbestos removal company.
They gave him the flick because he kept taking days off to go
film himself. Yeah, right.
But he filmed this thing once it went viral, he did it again, the
followers, the audience stayed and now it's a thing.
Now what I would, what I'm really impressed by is the fact
he's now gone away and he's trying to find a way to make
money out of it. Because we had to chat about the
fact that he's like, well, how do I make this a career, make it
a living what he's done. And I don't know who he's
partnered up with this, but he's gone away and created a YouTube
channel for himself. Understandable, but I said to
him after the first episode, it's called baked goods TVI
think he's up 2000 subscribers or something at the moment.
The view, the videos, the couple he's got up have had about 5000
views. But the production value's
really good. I don't know who he's partnered
with to get this rolling, but the studio set up is clean.
It's Chris. The production value's really
good and it's unique. It's himself.
He's he's, I don't know how he's going to go monetizing it
because he's smoking and swearing and all the rest of
that. That doesn't mean it's not
sponsorable, but that makes it harder.
But he's unashamedly himself. His guest.
So far he's had Will Sparks, the DJs, had Chris Lee and the
cricketer. So, you know, there's people
that are gravitating towards his style of doing things and I'm
really excited for him and best of luck to him.
But if you start smoking and you start eating long Johns and you
think you can make that yours, you can't.
That that course is bolted. That is his.
Find something else. Find something else.
Do a bag of Skittles. I don't know.
Yeah, well, we, we, we went on a tangent then Liam, back to Gold
Coast, back to the Gold Coast Marathon smoking era.
It ain't gonna happen, by the way, but on Gold Coast.
Ryan Kelso #1 fan shout. Out runner?
Yep. Boys with bronies comment about
needing tunes for her Gold Coast marathon since she wanted a
playlist. He's wants a call that we make
an in the beginning podcast playlist for runners.
So anyone, Well, that's easy to do.
That's easy to do. Anyone got any ideas?
The songs maybe just shoot them in, but we can do that before.
I like it because the thing that jumps into my head there, when
Bronte mentioned this on that Gold Coast Marathon episode, for
me, I don't know if I I'm, I have that habit of falling into
the pace of the song. Yeah.
So I don't know if I'd want to be trying out a new playlist for
a marathon where I'm committed to running or trying to stick to
a pace or a time. All right, it sounds rhino.
It sounds like Liam's shutting this down.
I'm not, I'm not. I will.
I'm happy to contribute to an in the beginning marathon playlist.
We can make one. All I'm saying is.
We just pick songs that are above 180 tempo.
I don't know, 80 tempo because what if you're not running that
tempo, Courtney? Oh, OK, we we got problems.
OK, don't use it for the marathon.
But don't. But what I'm saying is we'll do
it. But if you blow up 30 KS, I
don't want anybody blaming the playlist, right?
That's all I'm that's all I'm hedging against.
Hedging against now the Polar, the the H10 heart rate sensor,
the comps, the Polar Pacer. Thank you for everyone's
comments, they were absolutely brilliant.
You know what, this is a really shameless way to make ourselves
feel better about ourselves. We should do more competitions
because gives you the warm and funny fuzzies.
Reading all the the lovely comments we've got, we have
picked a winner and we'll tell you who it is right after these
messages. No, we will get it to it at the
end of the podcast. So please stick around and we
will share the winner of the Polar Pacer and the H10 heart
rate chest strap. All thanks to Polar.
I'm loving running with my heart rate monitor by the way.
Yep, the still the data, the actual information I'm getting
back, super useful. It's giving me a much better
idea of where I'm at running. I'm not quite there to put a
heart rate strap on at the moment, but not too far off.
Back to running, there's a. Really.
Exciting project in the world. I'm really excited about it.
How are you feeling about it? Like Nika here again doing it.
The Breaking 4, Breaking 4. So for those people that don't
know about Breaking 2, which was the Elliot Kipchoge experiment,
from how long ago did you do Breaking 2?
Like 5 years ago. I'm just going to take a stab at
that. Breaking 2 was a was a I've
brought it up. Wow it sorry.
It was announced in 2016. He raced it in 2017.
So longer it's. Almost eight years ago, this was
when Eliot Kipchoge at a race track in Monza in Italy, with
all the benefits the paces the pace car runners to run behind
attempted to break. Yeah, like he had a the two out
of the tree and echelon of runners breaking the wind for
him. That's super interesting.
It was that long ago, and no one's still broken.
Two hours Now for those that don't remember, he ran a two
hours and 25 seconds, so he was 26 seconds short of breaking 2IN
that experiment. He but even eight years on in a
race situation, the fact he went that time, then he would have
like 8 years is a long time. It just goes to show the shoes,
that first shoe they brought out was the real kind of milestone
jump in technology. So there obviously hasn't been
as big a breakthrough since then in in the running shoe
technology. The world record for those
playing along is still 20257. So it's it's still, you're still
3 minutes off breaking 2 hours in an official race.
But what they're doing with Breaking 4 is really exciting
because it's now they're taking it to the women's track and they
are highlighting Faith Kipiagon, who for those that remember was
the gold medallist, the head of our own Jess Howell at the last
Olympic Games. Down the Aussie.
In the women's 1500 and the challenge now for faith is can
she become the first ever female to break the four minute mile
barrier I'm. Going to say yes.
You think she does it? Yes.
So you're the you're the pro here, mate.
Explain to me what benefits they can create for Faith in the way
that with Elliot, they had the pace car in front of him, they
had that echelon of runners providing the wind resistance.
They had everything possible. They had the specific track,
everything set up to help him. What can they do for Faith in a
track environment like this to help her break 4 minutes over a
mile? All the same thing, just load
her up in front with paces. I just I don't know what they're
doing around this. Like are they using males to
pace her? I mean, that would be the
obvious. Yeah, let me ask you that.
What would you be doing? Aside from males pacing, what
else could they possibly do with it?
Is there, is there a faster track?
Is there a location which makes this more achievable?
Look, I don't know enough about it.
Would be interesting to see where are they doing it.
Doesn't say this is happening June 26th.
See the the challenge with tracks so you'd go like when you
know cycling when they break the records, they always go to
altitude because of the wind resistance.
The the problem you have there is there's a trade off with the
oxygen you get. So yes, LES wind resistance or
not wind resistance, you know what I mean?
You're at altitude easier, but it's harder to breathe.
So I couldn't see them going up to where there's less oxygen to
do this. Paris.
Oh, OK. So we're we're pretty much see.
Just found it on June 26th in Paris.
OK, I forget everything I would have said, but that is true and
why they're probably going to Paris.
Look, what can they do? I mean, do they use an illegal
shoe? Because track shoes are pretty
defined. So have they got a new shoe?
I would say being the fact it's Nike, it probably is, but I
haven't seen any of this, of this information.
Is it going to be done in legal conditions?
So that would mean using a legal shoe.
Is it done in legal conditions with legal paces, or are they
just throwing the rule book out the window and going, we're just
going to get there if that's the case, New shoes, male paces,
Hey, for all's sake, you could get some big bloody fan like
being a track and going around circles.
You get some industrial fans and get some like a a endless
tailwind. They don't laugh.
Look, if they did that, if they did that, I, I feel like that
would be like just we'll put her on a moving track.
Like, you know, that's not. So you think at that, at that
point it gets silly. They can't do that.
Yeah. So I'm having a look at.
I'm just reading some information, more information
about the race and, and there's some, there's one particular
blog I'm just having a flick through here that says that
she's no chance. Basically she's declaring she's
no chance of doing it. The first bloke to do it was oh,
how's your track history? I'm.
Going to get this wrong. I'm going to get shamed here.
There's people out there listening, screaming, the
answering of their headphones. Right now, I'm just his name.
It was Roger Bannister, correct? Well done.
I got there. I got there.
You. Your reputation was in danger
there. Courtney Atkinson.
That was my memory in play, but OK.
Roger Bannister ran 359.4 at the iffly Rd track in Oxford,
England on May 6th, 1954. It became the most famous runner
of all time when he was the first sub 4.
Interestingly, and I don't have the data in front of me, but
interestingly once. He did it.
It was her. I think Herb Elliott got there,
but it was all of a sudden there was a mental thing because once
he did it, suddenly I think there was a real run of athletes
that achieved it. So it was kind of like is that
whole thing of if you can see it you can beat it and that all of
a sudden we all saw that sub 4 minute mile was possible and a
bunch of. Them did it.
Oh, I mean, I think that's what's happened in Australian
marathoning in the past, kind of, you know, three to four
years as well. Like, but you know, some guys
and girls have started running faster and everyone's just like,
well, that's possible now. I mean, you know, I train with
that person. I can run as quick as them.
And I think that's how a lot of the momentum in Australian
middle and and distance running has happened at the moment.
Just for just to go back to faith keep Jaeger bit of
information about her gold medals in the last three Olympic
Games 2016, 2020, 2024. No one else, male or female, has
achieved that distinction. She's got the world record in
the mile for women at four O 764, so she's looking at an 8
second improvement roughly. And she's got the world record
at 1500 metres, which is 349 O 4, which basically I think from
a maths perspective works out to be the same. 7 seconds is a lot.
Can I retract my original answer?
Unless she's got, Unless she's got the fans.
So you don't think 7 seconds is achievable no matter what Nike
does for her? Short on giving her an illegal
tail win the whole time. Or illegal?
Something else? But she's still in competition.
She's I think she's 31 at the moment.
Yeah, Yeah. 7 seconds is a lot. At that speed, at that, at that.
Well, not so much at that speed, but just at, you know, in 4
minutes to take out. So she's got to pull back.
You know, I want to say about a second and a half a lap or
whatever, just over a second and a half this.
And I'm give I'm I'm reading this data and I'll credit him
because it's the the website is bring back the mild.com.
So it's obviously someone who's dedicated to the mild distance.
This bit says to run a 359.9 mile.
Kipiagon should be able to run 800 metres in about 151 to 152.
In real life, her best 800 is 157.6.
So she's talking about four and a half second improvement per
800. Well, we'll see, right?
What date is it? June 25th, I think it was.
June the 26th, 26th in Paris. In Paris time.
You can you can watch it on YouTube.
Alright, I'll be there. I.
Will be. There.
I will. Absolutely.
You know what we've talked about?
What gets you to watch running? Yeah, this gets me to watch
running. Yes, yes it does.
'Cause there's a story, Yep. There's a story.
There's a gold storyline and there's a storyline.
Yep. That's a cool storyline.
Hey, hey, this is an. Interesting 1 So few of them.
Few of my brother's mates have been talking about this and
since we've got like such a wide range of audience, we've got 22
year olds that have been listened.
Like I can see the demo of our Audience 22 right through the 60
plus. Sure, you know, which is great.
I don't see demo accordingly, I just see runners.
You just see runners hey, but age decline.
Great topic. So haven't some of my or some of
my running partners were having a good argument about it?
So one side is they're adamant that people stop performing at
40 plus because of mindset, because mentally they're like,
I'm 40 now, OK, I've had enough. The other side is while some
still can perform at a decent level, it's a progressive
decline from 40 or even earlier. So like.
What do you think? I think, I think it's harder
definitely, and I think mindset has definitely in the past.
I think at both ends of the spectrum.
I was trying to explain, I was explaining this two or three
days ago. Tour de France is a great, let's
go to cycling for a shake. I'm gonna go start at cycling.
No one thought anyone could win Tour de France at 2322 years of
age. It was always an old man.
Like, you know, you have to do your distances, do your races
and whatever. Now it's just accepted 2223,
These guys are up there winning the Tour de France.
It's completely flipped. Olympic distance triathlon's the
same thing. It was, you know, a real, it was
a you had to mature, you had to do your mileage, you had to do
your racing. That was, it's proven wrong.
Now the young guys are coming out doing just as well in that
space or doing the best in that space without that background,
the. What's his name?
Pogo Car. Yep, he won it the Tour de
France at 21. Yep, I mean the, I mean, all of
them are quite young at the moment.
I mean, they're a little bit older now, but they're still
like they're still mid 20s. That was unheard of on the same
end. On the other end of the scale
though, you've got 40 plus you've got, you know, you take
the Hawaii eye man. There's been multiple guys who
have won that, you know, as they're coming into their 40s at
the moment. We talked about Cam Worth the
other day breaking the Old man world record in the cycle and
still getting top ten sort of wise and all that, you know,
into his 40s. I actually do believe it's all a
mindset thing, but I think the mindset thing's not about so
much whether, you know, oh, look, I've got this in my mind
now. I can get across it.
Like there's definitely things as you get older that you've got
to address, so your strength is going to decrease.
There's a whole range of things. But if you've got all of that
background and then you can use it still while you're in your
40s and you can do all the extra stuff to manage your body, yes,
you still can perform. But I then I'm on, I'm on both
sides of this fence because I do believe there is a decline.
You've just got to manage yourself so much better.
But mentally 100% now. Age isn't the factor it once
was. I int like it's it's interesting
to hear that and I think I agree for the most part as well.
I what I will say from an average athlete perspective from
a non professional athlete, because I also think there's
examples in other sports, Tom Brady, LeBron James, Steph
Curry, all these players, Aaron Rodgers, all these Cam Smith in
the NRL, the. I am talking pro.
No, no, no. When I was talking then I was
purely elite. You're talking elite.
Athletes, Scott Pendlebury is an example.
In the AFL right now, the ability to play for longer is
only in at the professional level.
I think is only being increased by the technology and the
progression that all the money that's being invested into these
sports. Naturally, there should be some
sort of the, an athlete's lifespan should be longer,
right? And, and I mean, in both
directions as well, because you talk about those athletes
winning the Tour de France and things younger, it probably just
an indication that the way of thinking about that sport or
that race from years gone by was was narrow.
So they've opened up their way of thinking about it and as a
result, an athlete's career span is now greater than what it
should be. That just kind of makes sense
from an amateur perspective from a recreational jogger.
I don't think it's, I actually think it's more to do with your
history than your age. I think if you have been AI
think if you've got out of your schooling sporting career and
whatever amateur sporting you might have done in your early
20s. And I'm talking about running
here. I think that's a key factor to
it because I think a lot of people hit that mid 20 late 28
bracket, stop playing any form of team sport and suddenly
they're like, I've got a, I've got a bang ankle, I've got a
bang knee, I've got a sore hip, I've got whatever.
And that's what limits them from a running perspective.
I think for me, I got out of my amateur footballing career and
I'm fine to run. And as a result, I'd never, I
got to probably 28 and I'd never run before or made running my
main source of exercise. And suddenly this whole world
opens up and I'm for about to turn 41.
I still think I have PBS across every distance ahead of me.
Yep, there's not, there's not a single distance from 5K up that
I don't think I can not P set a new PB on because my body's fine
aside from my calf injuries that I'm dealing with.
But you know, my body's not a limiting factor to it.
And the more I learn, the better.
I'm more educated. I'm becoming around the sport.
Would you, would you say then, though environmental factors are
still limiting? So as you get up like as, and it
may not be specifically around the age of 40, but you know,
depending on when you have kids and when you've got to have to
put more time into a job and kids or, you know, like I always
say, the more time you're sitting down, the more of a
challenge it is, you know, at a, at an older age.
I like that. I like that.
I think that to me is a is a more accurate depiction of what
happens at 40. It's not the age, it's
everything that comes traditionally at that stage of
life. Traditionally now, if you're a
single person who doesn't have a family, has a a has the means to
basically live your life in the fashion you want, Yet the age is
almost irrelevant. You know, because if you've got
the means to tackle things as you choose with the resources
you and the time and energy you want to put into that, you can
be selfish because yourself is your only aspect of your life.
The age is irrelevant. Yeah, it's as much as it's as
hard as you want to go, as hard as you want to work.
But if you are married, with a mortgage, with kids, with all
these traditional environmental factors.
More stress at work as you you. Climb the ladder, Yeah, if you
are on that trip there again, traditionally, Yep, the path
leads up for a lot of people. And as the path leads up and
your plate gets busier with other things.
All those other stresses are a factor.
That's what that's like. I truly believe that is actually
the biggest downfall and all this.
The other thing is what we talked about earlier about the
smoking and just the following mentality, the more I also
believe as more people have gone on to run, you know, UTA or
marathons, and it's more acceptable, more permissible at
40 and people are improving doing all that, everyone just
follows. Oh, well, I can do that.
Yeah. So there's a that you've broken
down that kind of glass ceiling. That barrier is purely just
people following that. That can be done by him or my
friend or whatever it is, and I can do that as well at both ends
of the spectrum. Again, because we're getting
what we're seeing in the marathon data is people like
runners are running marathons earlier and earlier in their
age, like the young 20s are the ones who are driving this
marathon. Boom, crazy.
It's, it's a cool chat. I like that chat.
I've enjoyed that. That's really.
Cool, I've got one for you. I was, I was reading, I don't
know where I was, but I was on a plane, I think reading news.com.
And I've travelled the world most of my life racing.
And it only just occurred to me with this article that did you
realise Africa is wider than the whole of Eastern Eastern Europe.
And when I say Eastern Europe, I'm including Russia, the
continent of Russia. Say that again.
So the whole continent of Russia from the, so I so say from the
actual boundary of Russia. So I think there's Poland there
maybe. Oh, you're talking about over.
OK. So yeah, Russia inside that's.
What I'm looking at, I'm going to put this up.
For those watching on Spotify video, I'll put it up.
So from the far eastern point of Russia, the continent?
Yep, through to the far western point of Russia, the continent
that is. Oh wow, so that is not as
because on the globe. We have been taught just just
like the world, you know, with the old flat map.
We have been if this article. 'S true.
I haven't checked this. We have been sold a lie
throughout our whole schooling, throughout all our maps.
Now if you compare so they call it a can you pronounce that one?
MERCATR Mer cattle, Amur cattle map versus the actual true size
of land mass, right. So effectively what they're
saying is the way we look, the way maps have been in the past
with straight, straight lines being positioned are for sailors
to go around the world on a flat map.
And when you when they'd have the map in that way and someone
who's even got size degrees is gonna like crush me on this as
the way I'm explaining it, but effectively it, the whole maps
is warped. The maps we're used to looking
at are warped, distorted. So Australia on the map is
distorted to look a lot bigger than what it would compared to
where the equator is to get it flat.
Yeah, until I saw this article. I know, I know.
It's hard. It's hard to explain.
But Courtney? Courtney's mind is exploding a
little bit here. I'm baffled.
On the traditional, as I totally understand what you're saying,
and on the traditional globe as we know it, the globe map that's
been flattened out for the purposes of being hung on a wall
in a classroom, Russia appears West to east to be the largest
thing on the planet. Correct.
Another way to put it, they put through it.
So Greenland. If you look at Greenland on a
world map, Yep, it's the size of Russia.
Sorry Russia, it's the size of Africa.
But Africa in true landmass is actually 14 times bigger than
Greenland. So what you're saying is if I
was to run across Russia, it would seem more impressive than
if I ran across Africa? Correct.
And I'm sure someone has used that to their advantage.
Absolutely use that to their advantage.
What I'm also saying is, well, we've gone through how many
years of schooling? Oh no.
And no matter what the if this is true, that if someone tells
you something enough, you believe.
It you're becoming a conspiracy theorist like I tell this is
this is going into dangerous territory for this podcast,
Courtney. So, OK, so.
Africa's four times as big as Australia, but have a look at
the map. We need to go and run around
Greenland and then everyone will think we've run around something
as big as Africa and then we say look how big it is, just look at
the map. How big it is like another one
they did is is another way to look at it.
Turn the world map upside down. It looks weird, right?
Yeah. Because when you never look at
it like that, but who's to say the word?
Who to say North should be up if you?
Start talking to me about Flat Earth stuff if you honestly,
this is gone somewhere I didn't think we'd be exploring for
future. I normally when you put stuff on
the run sheet, I just go, Oh yeah, Courtney will take this
somewhere interesting. But today you've taken us into
conspiracy theory terrorists about territory, about the world
being distorted. It's not a conspiracy.
That's the point we're being school have provided us with.
Spoken like a true conspiracy theory.
Jeez, I hope that article's right, because otherwise we're
I'm looking like a right tosser. I like it.
Hey, tell us a bit more about yeah.
Fight Club now. Now to what I want to talk
about. I don't know how I ended up
here, but I did the film Fight Club.
Do you ever seen it? Of course.
OK, awesome movie. Yep, Brad Pitt.
And every, every bloke who might have dreamed about getting
themselves in great Nick Brad Pitt's rig in that film.
It's impressive work. This is what I wanted to ask to
you about though, right? You're a professional athlete
who didn't train for aesthetics, you trained for performance.
Looking at Brad Pitt there though, he's obviously there's
obviously a lot of gym involved with that.
Yeah, and a lot of. Stripping, But according to the
thing that I've found, cardio was the key.
Like I know you're not Apti know you're not a trainer for
aesthetic from a how much cardio do you think you're mixing in in
a weekly on a weekly basis? Clean eating of course assumed
all that stuff, but from a cardio perspective.
Yeah, but see, he was he wasn't, he wasn't huge in the film.
No, he was actually quite. He was my new super lean.
No, but I mean, muscular wise, he was a light.
He was a light frame. He was just so lean.
It just looked impressive. So that's a lot different to
trying to bulk up and clean, right.
He was stripping, obviously doing some weights, but I'm
gonna go. So you're asking me what the
cardio was? He just had to do more cardio
than he was eating. Like he just would have been in
major calorie deficit before the movie.
Yep. So he was running at about 6%
body fat apparently in that film, or 4 to 5 low.
Yeah, but cardio was apparently The thing is cardio, cardio,
cardio, but he only did it twice a week.
But listen, this is what I wanted to get your thought on.
He would do an hour on the treadmill, but he was operating
for that hour at 80 to 90% Max heart rate.
So he's just burning the most calories he could.
So an hour at 80 to 90 of his Max heart rate.
I mean, that's probably improbable if you think about
how hot like even 'cause what you just think about thresholds
and where your threshold is compared to your Max heart rate
you know it'd be. What's redlining for you?
We've talked a little bit about some.
Like I well, like, I mean, I don't know right at the moment,
but like I'd use a 178 is my Max would would be my Max when I do
testing and I if I was to to run 10 Ki could go like hold between
that 164 to 168. But if I then got into the one
70s, I'm cooked. So on that so.
What's that as a percentage? Well, yeah, so 164 to 168 you
that's sort of around 92 three percent of your.
But let's say 168 on one 7889. OK.
So you're at around that 90%, right?
That's about the zone that Brad Pitt's reportedly, but.
That was 10 Ki wouldn't last 1/2 marathon.
I was gonna say how long and so you're doing your 10K in about
3430330231. What's you're on your best 10K
in? What's your 10?
KPB running off the bike. We'd always like around that 30
off off the bikes. OK.
Yeah. So you're running 30 minutes.
So apparently Brad was doing an hour at 80 to 90%, so he would
then double what you're doing. Yeah.
Time wise maybe. Do we think I've fallen for a a
bit of a misinformation here? It's a good, it's a good
discussion. It's great.
I'm I'm, I'm more around like, you know, the body shape he had
in there because in today's movies it's rare to see it's
everyone's buffed. Like they've actually probably
been eating, you know, most of the stars of today's action
movies, they would have been eating, you know, can 14 eggs
and whatever else, chicken breasts and everything else to
bulk up and then also stripping where to get that frame where
he's like, it's just pure stripped back body fat, but
still gonna got that light muscle.
He looks like a runner. Yeah, he looks like a.
Runner Well, hey, and have you seen Snatch, the Guy Ritchie
film as well? Yeah, same in that where he
plays the the gypsy boxer. He's very lean he's always got a
frame that kind of lends itself to that anyway.
Yeah, but I'm going to. Imagine they do some like, you
know, before filming, they'd have some good diuretics going
on and yeah, they'd be real. Well, yeah.
How much do you this is? You're not the right person for
this because you're an actual athlete again, who's training to
perform, not to look good, but the idea.
I've got a vague recollection of someone who did some fitness
modelling talking about in the lead up to their shoot day they
would be not drinking what? Dehydrating themselves,
basically. Yeah.
I'm assuming there's otherwise that they can accelerate it as
well. Yeah.
I'm going to continue to dive. If anybody's got any movies or
TV shows that involve running that they're interested about,
send them through because I'm going to delve into the world of
running in on silver screen because Tom Cruise's I wonder
which action star is run the most case.
In their movies. Over their careers.
Well, most of them probably had stunt doubles, so Tom Cruise is
probably you. You would say that Tom Cruise is
probably run. Let me rephrase that.
I wonder which action star character?
Yeah, on paper, whether it's them or they've.
Yeah, Well, that ruins the game. Play the game.
Play the game, Courtney. Like I wonder how far did
Forrest Gump according to the script actually run?
Oh, that's a good call. Like, how much did Tom Hanks
actually run in Forrest Gump? Yeah, I reckon he run less and
he grew his beer well. But then like so if the script
says he ran from that state to that state, I started running,
how far did he run versus how much running did he have to do
in the film? Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take a
stab and say he was running like Max 100 metres, 100 metres and
did it a couple of times and then all right, done.
Next week on the show you. You've received that.
One next week on the podcast, I bring to you Forest the running
facts about Forrest Gump, if anybody has.
Take a note so we make sure. If anybody has another I'm going
to put it on next. Week while you're taking while
you're taking a note because that's a great conversation.
I want to keep going on that one next week while you're taking
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And what we do realise is there's a lot of people who
listen to us on Apple as well. So we want to give a shout out
today to the Apple listeners, those who you are on there.
So quick cup, quick cup try again.
Quick couple of shout outs. Now what's interesting with
apple, I know they do have the names there.
So TJ from Byron, thank you. Thank you for shout out TJTJ
Addy star one that has to be a Adidas Adidas.
Adidas. Hey, always with a downhill,
downhill skier Alice from New Zealand and she is she's
actually ride Solomon skis. Oh cool.
But is sponsored for gear by Adidas, their Terex collection.
And I said to her, and I'm in the car, I was driving her to
this conference I was at and said to her Adidas, oh, sorry,
Adidas and what is it? And she said Adidas, Adidas,
Adidas, like Step 4 because she lives in literally spends all
her time in Austria. And she said, no, no, there's
only one the way. And it's a German way, Adidas,
Adidas. You have to say it like you're
Arnold Schwarzenegger. Pretty much, yeah.
Adidas I was, I was given the quick.
Get to the other DAS. Other das so Adidas star one
Adidas OK yeah loves us weaving these yarns in well there's been
plenty of yarns today that have gotten a soft track Mike BF best
friend Palomi 94 look there's there's he's one there's but
pretty much there's awesome podcast those interested in
running really enjoying the marathon tips from Benita.
Well that's nothing about us. You know what Benita and Brody
have been a massive asset to? We're gonna have to work out how
we we've them back in at some stage because we've only got 3
weeks left. We'll have plenty more on
marathons coming. So yeah, thank you to all those
Apple. Listeners to our Apple
listeners. With the giveaways and that of
course we have of. Course, the Apple comments and
the ratings have gone into the draw for the Polo Watch and
heart rate. Yeah.
So then I have one from Rodney. Rodney.
Great name but AKA Doctor Ben. Oh really?
Yeah. I didn't realise Doctor Ben was
going on to Rodney these days. I.
Didn't think he had an Instagram account but it's funny what you
find out about people when they write it in a way you can know
what's going on. So gentlemen term usually use
loosely don't. I don't get to run with Courtney
anymore so I have to comment on Spotify.
He's just doubling down. Wrist heart weight rate does not
work at all. He's though he's saying some
people's doe correlate depending on the sessions.
OK he's saying I've bullied enough people to thinking wrist
watches are useless and I'm still going to bully people to
think that really long hard sessions either in the rain
particularly sweaty days up here in Queensland.
Yes, that's when the they they hit this shit happens, but
pretty much chest straps are more reliable.
Summary in summary. He's he's saying, in summary,
test your gear for what works for you.
So basically you can't, don't go on what we're saying, Don't go
on what anybody who sold you the stuff says.
You need to test what works for you to figure out whether it's
going to be a reliable, accurate measure of your heart rate.
Interesting to note that he's dropped down there at the very
end of that message. He said anyone who has listened
to all the podcasts should be able to work out where Courtney
is going for his marathon debut. I have no inside information,
but I can still tell you where. So the thing that upsets me
there, Ben, is I sit across from Courtney and I can't work out
where he's going. Have you made the decision?
No, I'm still we'll get into my running a little bit on it, but
I'm nowhere near my like. The point is it's all, it's all
well and good talking about or having ideas, but until you can
actually, until you're actually in training, running for
something, then it's just hearsay isn't it?
Paula Louise, I loved hearing about the New Zealand Mara.
Thank another one. We've opened a can of worms
here. Liam, me and my partner were
talking last week about doing next year and when you guys
spoke about it, was amazed. They want more footy talk about
Geelong and I said well, far out.
Geelong gave us a flogging. What do you want to hear about
what? What footy chat do you want?
Have you, have you had any made any progress with Will Ashcroft?
No, no. We were gonna investigate.
Well, we've been so busy with. We have been.
Very running. Running stuff, Liam, Yeah, we
can. That's later in the year, we'll
get on to more stuff like that, but running is our focus at the
moment. Geelong gave Gold Coast Suns.
They gave them a good well, no, I wasn't a flogging.
No, no, no, it wasn't a flogging.
Look, it was a tough loss for the Suns and they're in a a
tricky part of the season at the moment.
It's a good test. It's a good test to see where
they are at against as all the other good teams start to
improve and find their best football.
The Suns started really well, they put themselves in a
position to make finals. Now the challenge is for Dimmer
and the players to navigate their way through this mid
season and and still be in the hunt for finals.
Sort of come back from the BI this week.
They've got the, they've got the weekend off this weekend.
Next weekend they're playing GWS down in Sydney.
I'll be, I'll be calling that game down.
I'm travelling. You're going down.
Yeah, going down to Sydney to call that game for, for Triple
M. So I'll be down there, which is
which is always fun. Together Is it a night game?
No, it's a Sunday afternoon. So it should be sunny,
hopefully. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But GWS are in a bit of a sea soaring season too, so they.
Could go either way, yeah. But it's also, it's just great
to see that the Expansion Cup, as it's known, where the two
expansion signs, GWS and Gold Coast, play each other.
Both teams are fighting for finals because in years gone by
early seasons that game was irrelevant.
Yeah, GWS are being on for years now.
They've been batting really well, yeah.
They're going well. Yeah, So what else have we got
on? Do we sharing Justine comment or
you wanna skip ahead to run weeks?
Leave Justin's till I can do a bit more research on that
because I actually Justin has a comment around power based
running. All right, well, there's some
homework for you. I've got to look into Forrest
Gump. You've got to look into power
based running. Tell me about your.
Running before I blabber on forever.
You've been to New Zealand. We'll get to that story very
shortly. Quickly, I'm back running a bit
and I appreciate everybody that sent out a message after I
posted my 10K run. You were one of those people as
well. He's back back running over 10
KS for the first time in a very long time.
Calf felt great. The thing I found after that
recent run as well is as much as I felt like talking about being
injured, not being out of run was good and was was keeping me
sort of calm and composed about everything.
I have realised just how important running is for my
mental health, right? And I'm not going to go on about
mental health too much because that's not what we do here.
But for me personally, running is really, really important.
I had a pretty tough week on the radio show this week and had a
bit of a tough moment on Wednesday show.
It's been it's been men men's health week in Australia that's
focused on physical health, but also mental health as well.
And I shared a story on our radio show talking about sadly,
a mate of mine who's not with us anymore happened earlier on this
year. And it was really I, I've, I've
not dealt with it. It's not done by any means.
I still, I miss the guy and still talk to our friends about
him. But it, it happened in March.
I didn't talk about it then because the radio show that was
right around Tropical Cyclone Alfred, I would have had lots of
conversations about it. But I spoke about it on the
radio show for the first time on Wednesday and got pretty
emotional about it because it's always hard talking about that
stuff for the sort of the first time, you know, publicly.
And whilst radio's really fun occasionally, I think you've got
a, there's a level of responsibility, if you've got
that level of platform to actually use it for something
more than just poking fun at whatever's going on in the Gold
Coast. It was a really tough morning,
great support from everybody around.
But then I went for the run the day after, yes.
And it it didn't wash the feelings away because I'm still
sad that my friend's not here, but my brain just felt like a
much, I don't know, cleaner place, if that makes sense.
Is that because when you were running, you're not thinking
you're buying? Well, like, well, I had a
podcast. I was running the streets.
I was just running the roads. What?
What podcast? Come on.
What podcast was I was listening to the Bill Simmons podcast,
which is American sports. Just listening to that just NBA
chat bit of, you know, social media.
It's pop culture stuff. But so I wasn't really thinking,
yeah. But also for me, running,
cleaning out my brain is probably the the best way I can
describe it. It's and there's probably people
out there who know exactly what that feels like.
There's probably people out there that go, I don't
understand what you mean cleaning out your brain.
My brain can be a very busy place at times.
And the feeling post run I have is as not quiet, but as clean
and unclogged I think as my brain gets.
So it's been really nice having that, just having that one 10K
run bank this week as, and I'm guarantee you if you ask my
wife, she's the one that sees it and she's like, Oh yeah, Liam's
a much easier bloke to be married to and live with when
he's running because everything else comes, comes, yeah.
So I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more.
It's. And I know for you the trails is
that particularly? Well, I'm just thinking about
you said anyone listening might not know cleaning out.
I think that that's the beauty of running is you don't need to
know that. You don't even need to think
about that because I think it's just a byproduct everyone gets.
Maybe if you're that way inclined that you are a bit
stressed and you are a bit busy, then you realise how good it is.
But most of the time, if it's consistent, yeah, it's just part
of what you do. And that is what is keeping.
I think a lot of things just moving really well.
And I mean, running's one thing like you can go surfing and get
the same feeling. Exactly.
And maybe if I went. Down a biking and probably get
the same feeling maybe sometimes even a better feeling because I
also come back like 1. You get that feeling of being
out there in cleared head, but I also get a bit of adrenaline.
I'll come back like fired as well so.
But yeah, so back running longer, which makes me happier
and the car feels great. There's still there's still the
occasional moment mid run where and it's that I don't know if
it's the the not a placebo, but like a you know how sometimes
when if people people have phantom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Phantom pain.
Sometimes on those runs, I'll have this momentary phantom pain
in my calf, which makes me think, Oh no, I've done it
again. But then if I.
It's just your brain, it's your brain concentrating on what you
know. Has you felt that pain and your
brains remembering it in that spot?
And that's where running with people can help on the way back.
So there's a catch 22 with running and people on the way
back from injury because one on one side, I think it's brilliant
because you get chatting to someone and it takes your mind
off exactly that experience of looking for the problem to
reoccur because that's what you're doing.
You're like thinking is it, is it coming, is it coming, is it
coming? And if you think about it enough
it it comes in whether it's a phantom pain or whether it is
actually a week and it's and it's actual pain.
But then I suppose a bit more, the negative side of running
with someone on the way back is that they're pushing a bit hard
and out of your, you know, and pushing a little bit too hard.
It also can cause injury back. So like for example, if you went
out and ran too fast and overdid it, that's going to make the
injury. Obviously.
Probably. Well I got a message from from
Adzi after he saw that 10K run, so I look forward to seeing you
at run. Group.
Oh, right, everybody said settle down.
No, no, no, he said. I look forward to seeing you at
Run Group this weekend. I was kind of like, my brain did
that. I was like, oh, but what if?
Yeah, not yeah. Anyway, yeah, what about mate?
Let's talk New Zealand. Yeah, I mean, your trip looked
amazing. I had one I've well we're as we
said we're talking Saturday, so I would have been have run
events. So of all weeks, while I'm
trying to organise a 24 hour run event for for a whole group of
people, which is gonna be amazing, I had to skip over New
Zealand for the first three days of the week in the same week.
So the reason I was over there. So they get Red Bull, get all
the athletes together in all the different countries from time to
time. Obviously, being an Australian
Red Bull athlete, I'm normally with the Aussies, but part of
what I get to do at Red Bull is I also help out.
And like, now I'm one of the older crew there, I get to help
out in some other ways. So I was over with the New
Zealand crew. And funny thing is, like, you
know, when they talk about imposter syndrome, yeah, it
doesn't matter what you do, you're always are going to have
that. Like I think it'd be interesting
to talk to some of, you know, different people in different
areas because like I've often heard people talk about imposter
syndrome, but like I turn up and I'm the Aussie there.
But also like everyone is from a different sport.
So you've literally got, you know, some of the best downhill
mountain bike races, the best Backcountry snowboarders, young
girl they've just picked up from a snowboarding.
Her name's cool. Think of a superstar name.
You know, we talked about her name's.
Cool. Her name is cool.
Like C double OL, yeah, I You're not becoming Japanese New
Zealand athlete, you're not becoming an accountant, are you?
If you're cool. Talk about a superstar now.
Like as if she is not going to become a superstar.
You know what? That's called nominative
determinism. When your name dictates your
future career or what you're going to do, it's an actual term
called nominative determinism, and it'll be like having a
dentist called Doctor Candy or. Yeah, well, Usain Bolt, you
know, cow. Cow is like a name but like cool
and she is a snowboarder. That's so awesome.
It is. That's.
So cool and she was cool so cool, but imposter syndrome yes,
I'm just there going like you know I'm there part of it as we
did some yoga 1 morning we're out playing golf.
Hey, got out playing golf. Hey Jaden, too bad like I reckon
I'm like one out of two. I get one on the that's.
Not we're bad. We're playing Ambres, but like
you, I just talked about the athletes we're with.
Pretty much. You can imagine those athletes
on a golf course in the rain with golf buggies.
It was the golf was the side show.
I was gonna say, I also often think that for athletes in
particular, they're either golfers or they're not like
cricketers for the most part. Golfers, right?
Footy players, a lot of them golfers, and then I find that
you'll get the world's most coordinated athletes in some
other sport and you put a Golf Club in their hand if they can't
swing it. You've never seen that athlete
look less athletic. It was more Happy Gilmore than
it was. So I don't know who who you're
going to find at Mick Fanning's golf day yesterday.
Yeah. But I mean, like just, and I
just pinch myself sometimes of like where I end up in the
experiences and, you know, the next day we're back here and
then, you know, trying to get a whole heap of cruise safely from
the Gold Coast out to Tannerfield.
It's just quickly when you yeah, and we don't have to talk too
much about this if you don't want, but I think do you when
you look at the guys you raced alongside of and the women you
raced alongside of and what some of them are doing now for life.
Like you talk about the pinch me and the opportunity that Red
Bull of you know, you obviously you've fulfilled your end of the
bargain and you continue to do it as an elite athlete then now
with everything you do. But the fact that your life has
taken that this trajectory post professional Ironman triathlon
race. Yeah, triathlon when I don't
know what some of you contemporaries are doing with
themselves these days. Hey, look.
Everyone, I think one thing that happens is elite sport teaches
you a structure that allows you to succeed in whatever you want
to go on to do if you've got that right mindset of going.
So look, obviously some athletes and this happens a lot, it goes
one or two ways. They can fall off the rails too,
because there is that depression element of, you know, no longer
being, you know, the big fish in a big pond or small pond or
whatever you want to call it. So and then suddenly they've got
to find their way in the, you know, what we'd call the real
world. Without the support, without Co
support or pop, people told. What to do and all of that.
So there's a whole new relearning there.
So there's definitely that element there.
But most of the people I grew up, I mean, triathlon wasn't
like you got to retire off triathlon, right?
It's not like some, it's not like we're golfers or, you know,
footy players. So you, you generally have to go
off and do something else. But some of them have become,
you know, in, in corporate lives.
Some of my best mates, like I go on holidays with, you know,
became really successful in their corporate worlds and sales
managers, whatever they are these days.
And some people created clothing brands and kicked on that way.
The beauty of what you know, what I'll give you, you know
what drives me? The one base element that drives
me in everything I do is decisions are made on.
I still want to be able to be as close to an athlete.
Like, I love the outdoors and I love training and I love.
Being the athlete lifestyle. I love.
Yeah. Well, it's not even the
lifestyle. It's actually more the, the, the
feeling of being able to be fit outdoors, healthy and promote
that. That's what drives me because I
like, you know, we're sitting here.
That's part of the reason it's great sitting here talking to
you is that we're driving people to go out.
And, you know, if we, you know, some of the comments that come
through and say, you know, I'm listening to you and that's
helping me, you know, get back into running or, you know, some
of that. That's what I love doing now
more than anything. And I suppose in a way that's
where, you know, I can kind of give back a little bit to the
younger athletes. Like they're very oh, this old
dude like. God.
Can you imagine when you're like 20 what you thought of?
Yeah, but on the flip side, there's certain elements that I
think you'd go well, like I can take some of that stuff away and
the shit I don't want to listen to.
Yeah, yeah, just like, no, it's really, it is really cool
because and everything you just spoke about is it's a
fascinating like it aids. It's cool to see you and doing
what you do around the Red Bull brand and I think it's a really
cool brand, but it's cool to see the way and it's to listen and
learn about the way you manage that side of your stuff.
But it's also really interesting, I think subplot to
the professional athlete life, which doesn't get talked about a
lot. And I know a lot of the football
organisations are a lot better at managing.
You know your career is only a snippet of your life.
Well, that'll be a great chat for one of our guests coming up
around Gold Coast Marathon because, you know, to hit the
top of the tree and then you know what life looks like for
athletes once once you're out of, you know, of, you know,
racing an Olympic Games. Pretty much my local race
conversation each week that I want to keep bringing.
So this is a great one. I love, Oh, you know, you know
my how much I love QLD. And this one from Kyle Adams,
he's running events up in Queensland, in God's country
around just out West of Gladstone, so the boying Valley.
And he actually wrote to me asking about, he runs a backyard
ultra. And I was honest with him and I
said my backyard ultra is really all like, yeah, yeah, I, I get
it. But like, yeah, whatever.
He said, don't worry. I've got a 50K through the
valley as well, 50K trail race. So that's, that's more
interesting. Yeah, yeah.
If you're up, if you're up in the north or you actually ever
want to travel up around that area of, you know, you got
Gladstone up there. I've talked a lot about going up
to 7070 Agnes Water to go on holidays, that whole area.
Yeah, Kyle runs through milepost events.
If you want to Google it, we'll put the link in as well.
But he runs a a number of trail events up there, which, oh,
cool, you know the country. I'll try and get some photos of
when I've done some adventuring out the back there in the
mountains. It's beautiful.
Yeah, amazing. Great spot.
Mining and it drives the country, and that's mining
country, man. Mining country, we got to
listen. Shout out to give to Davey
Wilson. We do.
Hey, boys. Oh, you want to read it?
You. Oh, I'll probably.
Read it please. There's no big, there's no
difficult words in there. But Dave has said, long time
listener, first time commenter, which is great.
Been here since the beginning and love how you have challenged
my thinking around running and how I've evolved in that time,
which is interesting because we're what are we 10 months in?
Dave said. I fell back in love with
running, trail running in particular in 2019 after
listening to the book Born to Run.
Now he's born to run the. It's the one about the the.
Is that the the? South South Americans South
American yeah, tribe so. If you haven't, it's a really
it's by Christopher McDougal. It's called born to run, the
hidden tribe, the ultra runners, and I'm just finishing that the
the hidden tribe, the ultra runners and the greatest race
the world has never seen. So it's a it's a really good
book if you're interested in running.
So he's, he's listened to that book as an audiobook.
Go check it out. Dave said it took me all the way
back to me as a 5 year old. He's now 42, starting little
athletics and that feeling of just loving running and
competing. It started off slow and quickly
turned into a result of following Goggins at the time
into let's run as far as we can as soon as possible, right?
You would not be alone Dave and falling into that trap.
He said What a journey it's been in these past six years.
I've had the pleasure of experiencing overtraining, tight
Itbs, having to stop and start all over again, but I managed to
complete the BTU 60 in just under 9 hours.
And last year IP Bead at the GC, Mario in 342.
Yes, this year I love this. This year I've adopted your
motto from today, last week's podcast of Go Harder not longer.
Thanks for making me a better runner.
Grateful. Go harder not longer.
This is the motto we came up if anybody missed.
If this is your first step, go back and listen to last week's
step. The idea of don't just go
further because everyone else is doing it.
Why not try and go harder Not longer?
We've got, I know we said we wouldn't make T-shirts and start
making merch, but I feel like Go Harder not longer is a great
T-shirt. I'd run in that.
Anyway. Shout out Dave.
Thank you mate. Yep, Yep, Yep.
Yeah, mate. No, you can trademark it.
We're there. Oh.
What are we talking? I don't know how to trademark
things. You might have to do that bit.
All right, Have we arrived at giveaway time?
We have Pola Pacer GPS running watch.
Share that to the team from Pola.
They're a fantastic partner of the Gold Coast Marathon, and
they've gotten behind this podcast as well.
We got the Polar Pacer watch. We got the H10 heart rate
sensor. Courtney Atkinson, would you
like to be honest? I would that was right.
Thank you to everyone who wrote in firstly.
That's the best drum roll I can do for you, Can I?
Is this the time to say I thought you had it?
Oh no. Yeah, it would have been.
You know what? I'm going to read the comment
and then I'm going to tell the name.
The comment was this. It's been a while since I've
found a podcast that's left me hanging for the next episode to
come out. You have become a regular part
of my morning gym and run routine.
Particularly enjoy the combination of the weekend
episodes and the Gold Coast series.
Thanks for keeping me smiling on these chilly Melbourne mornings.
Congratulations to Jackie Bladier, Jackie, you have won
yourself a Polar Pace Watch AH10 heart rate sensor and most
importantly, the appreciation of Courtney myself for getting on
board this podcast because we know, look, it's easy to get
around running and get around this podcast from 2 Gold Coast
blokes. If you're on the Gold Coast or
if you're in sunny Queensland, but Melbourne, that is a brutal
place to be a runner, to train regularly, to get yourself out
the doors in the morning wearing 17 layers and go and train
consistently and for this podcast to be a part of your
routine. Now Jackie, we are absolutely
stoked and we want to thank you for getting behind the podcast
and sending us in that comment and that giving that rating as
well. Yeah, so we'll we'll get in
touch with you on the messages. Otherwise, DM us on Instagram as
well, Jackie, and we'll get that down to you.
And this is being successful enough.
Like we'll we'll look to do some more of this in the future.
So everybody else that that did that did comment and and share.
Thank you. And we'd love to be able to give
you all all the watch and and A and a heart rate strap.
We don't have that many because there have been hundreds of
well. Now we've got to go and do some
work and find some. Yeah.
And I think this has given us sufficient motivation that we
need to go and find some other partners.
And there are people out there that have approached us, but
we'll find some appropriate partners for us to to do some
more stuff with down the track. Alright, that is us done.
Make sure you share this with your friends and family.
We keep on growing and we'll see you next.
Week. See you next week.