1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 In the beginning episode 39, three weeks out from the Gold 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,920 Coast Marathon. I hope you're enjoying the Gold 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,400 Coast Marathon special episodes we've been dropping, but 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,200 Courtney Atkinson as people are listening to this on their 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Saturday morning run. Where are you right now? 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,880 We're in the thick of Red Bull race the sun, so this is 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,360 probably the most stressful 24 hours of my year and I'm not 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,200 running. I'm trying to organise this 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,160 thing. We've a we've a great team from 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,960 Red Bull, of course, but you know, in the end, the buck stops 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,439 with me. So you're in. 12 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:35,160 So today, while people listen to this, if you listen to this on 13 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:38,000 your Saturday morning or on your Saturday, you are in race 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,120 director mode. This remind us what race the sun 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,280 is. Yeah, so Race the Sun is that is 16 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,560 the the event we talked about where we've got 15 teams and six 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,720 runners and in real life fashion they've got to go from Gold 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,520 Coast starting at the sunrise and we're going to get a sunrise 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,080 this year for the first time by the looks of it. 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:02,120 It's nice crisp, clear days. And then they've got to go 345 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:07,160 kilometres, 7700 metres of vertical elevation. 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,120 There's trail sections, there's Rd, there's dirt, with the goal 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,480 of getting to Tenterfield, which is out in northern NSW before 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,280 the sun rises again the next morning. 25 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,240 So 24 hours. And we did the maths on the the 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,880 pace. 411 I. Was about to say the we the 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,040 maths has been done on the rough pace they need to average 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,400 throughout all those numbers. Yep, it's. 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,320 Quick, it's quick. But you know what this year we I 30 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:35,320 know it's a great absolute great turn out. 31 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:38,760 So I've got a message you know we're we're we're talking about 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,040 guys running across Australia at the moment. 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,520 It's a hot topic. Got a message from Chris 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Turnbull, really the guy we talked about last week who had 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,840 the. Record before William Googe 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,000 broke it. He's out there running today, is 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,240 he? Really. 38 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,000 Yep. Yep. 39 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,000 Oh. Wow, he's coming. 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,480 We've got a couple of sub 220 runners coming from New Zealand 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,160 all the way across the ditch, so it could be an earlier morning 42 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,080 than I thought at the at the finish 'cause there's some solid 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,800 crew coming out. We've got her trails, which is 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,400 Samantha Gash coming up from Melbourne and her team. 45 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,160 Yeah. So there's some really, it's a 46 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,200 wide range of people out there doing it. 47 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,320 And they'll be out there, as you know, in the middle of the 48 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,040 night, and it's gonna, they're calling it an Arctic. 49 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,040 Blast. Oh yeah, it's cold here. 50 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,120 It's cold. Here at the moment, so 6° here 51 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,320 on the Gold Coast, I know coming back from the trials this 52 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,720 morning it was 19, so the days are going to be fine, but 53 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:35,480 Kanungra this morning was -1. Yeah, it's there's, there's some 54 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,920 proper chill in the morning. OK, so make some predictions for 55 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,120 us quickly then. You've just talked about some of 56 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,720 the that's awesome that Chris Turnbull's come in. 57 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,120 You've got that elite pointy end of the spectrum. 58 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:50,160 How many teams beat the Sun? Oh well, we have made it a 59 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:55,720 little bit harder this year with making one like some sections 60 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,120 where we're making 1 runner run like so 1:00 AM at night, yeah, 61 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,040 there's a runner from each team's gonna have to run a half 62 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,880 marathon along a dirt Rd before they get back into the mix of, 63 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,280 you know, switching over. There's, you know, we're making 64 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,560 some people run or runners from the team run up like quite up 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,640 Beechmont, up the back here, large hills. 66 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:16,280 So come on, how many? How many make it? 67 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,800 I'm going to tip, I'm going to go for about the same as last 68 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:20,920 year. You know, on average I reckon 69 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:23,880 we'll get about 5 teams make it. I've got a feeling, I've got a 70 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,880 bad feeling that the fastest team this year is going to go a 71 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,360 lot a little bit quicker than the fastest team last year, 72 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,480 which is going to throw my whole works of how, you know, we 73 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,880 structure the event out. But I mean that's it. 74 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,720 We can't control who comes and the fact that we've got, I think 75 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,120 they they said the Kiwi team coming over, they've got three 76 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:48,960 guys who have run under 220 and their female runners are both 77 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,880 kind of three hour E type runners. 78 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,560 I don't want to create more work for you because I know as people 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,480 listen to this, you are flat stick, right? 80 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,640 You're in work mode. But I would love, if possible, 81 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,080 for you to bring to the show the pod next week. 82 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,480 Some reactions at finish line, kind of just like some some vox 83 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,240 pops, as we call them in the radio game. 84 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,360 Some recordings of people at the finish. 85 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,560 Line we we've got a, we've got a content team, they're doing that 86 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,200 type of stuff so. We'll delegate. 87 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,640 Yeah, yeah, I'm sure we'll, we'll delegate get some of that 88 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:19,959 for. Sure. 89 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:23,280 In that case, I want some voice pop, vox pops, I want some 90 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,160 camera shots, I want a reel I want. 91 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,680 If you're listening, jump onto In the Beginning podcast 92 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:32,080 Instagram today, and I'll share some stories as we go along the 93 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:32,960 way. Awesome. 94 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,880 I'll be putting them on my channel, Greg. 95 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,040 We'll be putting them on their channel and yeah, so literally, 96 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,680 yeah, share them for sure. Let's do that. 97 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:47,920 But wait, you talk about a week I've had New Zealand with. 98 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,840 I'll talk about that later. What are you doing over there? 99 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:51,600 OK. We'll get that into my week and 100 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,440 running. But like, yeah, you know, you 101 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,240 talk about trying to, what do they say? 102 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,360 Bite off more than you can chew? It's it's one of those weeks. 103 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,560 One of those weeks that but we are counting down to the Gold 104 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,960 Coast Marathon as well. Three weeks out or yeah, what 105 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,960 are we three weeks out from from start day for that You sent me a 106 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,840 reel that I think I, I don't think this is going to be a 107 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:17,840 thing. But you you're convinced that 108 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:20,000 the Gold Coast Marathon might need a smoking section. 109 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,480 I'm, I'm, I'm thinking, you know, like when you go to an 110 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,960 airport and they've got a boxed off area and now have to go to 111 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,440 have your ciggies. I'm, I'm thinking Gold Coast 112 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,320 Marathon may need this at the finish line. 113 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,920 A glass, a glass house to put the smokers in. 114 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,360 Have it. It's becoming a trend. 115 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,680 It's not, it's not. I'm. 116 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,720 I send it to you. Yeah. 117 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,360 That that fella. Matt Johnson, I think his name 118 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,680 was Matt. Johnson Look, I don't know what 119 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,880 he's doing, but he is a fit looking dude sitting in front of 120 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,320 a treadmill. Finished his session, got the 121 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,120 darts out. Look, this is. 122 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,720 This is. Silly off the back of the 123 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,360 William. Good stuff with the finishing 124 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,400 each day with a a cigarette and a beer. 125 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:03,240 I mean, it's not like this is, this is classic social media. 126 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,960 This is classic stupid social media. 127 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:11,480 This is, is, is idiocy. And it's the monkey see, monkey 128 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:16,000 do behaviour. And in the same way, I think 129 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,920 it's irresponsible of people who don't know how to give running 130 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,880 advice to go on Instagram and give running advice. 131 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,480 It's also stupid for people to think that smoking a cigarette 132 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,560 after your exercise is going to help you break a running across 133 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,160 Australia record like it. It's just, it's just dumb. 134 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,040 As long as people can appreciate for what it is, yeah, that's 135 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,480 fine. There's a bit of bit of bit of 136 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,480 theatre. Going on, but yeah, like that's 137 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,200 the last thing you want to be promoting, right? 138 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,600 But it's also, I also think that all these people, this is that 139 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,760 whole thing about imitating, right? 140 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,640 If someone's already doing it, William Gurge has got this 141 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,520 right. He's made the most noise about 142 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,160 it. He's run across Australia and 143 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,560 he's done darts and he's had beers and all the rest of it he 144 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:58,920 had. That's his thing now. 145 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,200 If you want to become an influencer, if you want to 146 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,880 become a personality within this space, find something else 147 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,960 that's taken. Don't jump on that train and try 148 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,800 and make it your thing too, because you're you can only ever 149 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:12,600 be second to it. Yeah. 150 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,600 Same. Don't don't think you can go and 151 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,200 do cream doughnuts after you run. 152 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,800 Happy Alan, Happy. Alan's already got the the Long 153 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,600 John market team. Leave it alone. 154 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:21,840 That's his. Thing. 155 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,600 Find a new thing. And trust me, the way happy is 156 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,760 the way Alan, his real name's Alex, but the way Alan is 157 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,960 rolling, let him have it. That looks tough just having to 158 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,680 when you make that thing, you think put. 159 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,760 Weight on. He he has, he reckons he's 160 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,560 getting fat. For anyone for anyone listening 161 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,320 he doesn't know this is a guy on on social media who literally 162 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,680 everyday he just finds what the best no he. 163 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,640 Basically, I, I again, I'll talk about him for a moment because 164 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,640 we had him on the radio show. His name's Alex. 165 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Everyone calls him Alan, so he's happy. 166 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,400 Alan on Instagram. Big shout out. 167 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,480 I'm a, we had him in studio. He's a great fella. 168 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,520 He's a young bloke, was working for an asbestos removal company. 169 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,440 They gave him the flick because he kept taking days off to go 170 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,920 film himself. Yeah, right. 171 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:06,240 But he filmed this thing once it went viral, he did it again, the 172 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,840 followers, the audience stayed and now it's a thing. 173 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:14,080 Now what I would, what I'm really impressed by is the fact 174 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,560 he's now gone away and he's trying to find a way to make 175 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,040 money out of it. Because we had to chat about the 176 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,520 fact that he's like, well, how do I make this a career, make it 177 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,800 a living what he's done. And I don't know who he's 178 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,760 partnered up with this, but he's gone away and created a YouTube 179 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,960 channel for himself. Understandable, but I said to 180 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,520 him after the first episode, it's called baked goods TVI 181 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,000 think he's up 2000 subscribers or something at the moment. 182 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,000 The view, the videos, the couple he's got up have had about 5000 183 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,880 views. But the production value's 184 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,120 really good. I don't know who he's partnered 185 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,040 with to get this rolling, but the studio set up is clean. 186 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,840 It's Chris. The production value's really 187 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,160 good and it's unique. It's himself. 188 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,000 He's he's, I don't know how he's going to go monetizing it 189 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,160 because he's smoking and swearing and all the rest of 190 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,840 that. That doesn't mean it's not 191 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,360 sponsorable, but that makes it harder. 192 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,520 But he's unashamedly himself. His guest. 193 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,120 So far he's had Will Sparks, the DJs, had Chris Lee and the 194 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,840 cricketer. So, you know, there's people 195 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,080 that are gravitating towards his style of doing things and I'm 196 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,960 really excited for him and best of luck to him. 197 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,880 But if you start smoking and you start eating long Johns and you 198 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,200 think you can make that yours, you can't. 199 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,320 That that course is bolted. That is his. 200 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,520 Find something else. Find something else. 201 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,000 Do a bag of Skittles. I don't know. 202 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Yeah, well, we, we, we went on a tangent then Liam, back to Gold 203 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,160 Coast, back to the Gold Coast Marathon smoking era. 204 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,640 It ain't gonna happen, by the way, but on Gold Coast. 205 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,360 Ryan Kelso #1 fan shout. Out runner? 206 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,680 Yep. Boys with bronies comment about 207 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:45,720 needing tunes for her Gold Coast marathon since she wanted a 208 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,800 playlist. He's wants a call that we make 209 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,920 an in the beginning podcast playlist for runners. 210 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,840 So anyone, Well, that's easy to do. 211 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,200 That's easy to do. Anyone got any ideas? 212 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,240 The songs maybe just shoot them in, but we can do that before. 213 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,760 I like it because the thing that jumps into my head there, when 214 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,160 Bronte mentioned this on that Gold Coast Marathon episode, for 215 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:13,760 me, I don't know if I I'm, I have that habit of falling into 216 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,000 the pace of the song. Yeah. 217 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,320 So I don't know if I'd want to be trying out a new playlist for 218 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,080 a marathon where I'm committed to running or trying to stick to 219 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,000 a pace or a time. All right, it sounds rhino. 220 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,800 It sounds like Liam's shutting this down. 221 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,240 I'm not, I'm not. I will. 222 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,000 I'm happy to contribute to an in the beginning marathon playlist. 223 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,520 We can make one. All I'm saying is. 224 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:36,600 We just pick songs that are above 180 tempo. 225 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,200 I don't know, 80 tempo because what if you're not running that 226 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,960 tempo, Courtney? Oh, OK, we we got problems. 227 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,160 OK, don't use it for the marathon. 228 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,960 But don't. But what I'm saying is we'll do 229 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,600 it. But if you blow up 30 KS, I 230 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,000 don't want anybody blaming the playlist, right? 231 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,680 That's all I'm that's all I'm hedging against. 232 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,920 Hedging against now the Polar, the the H10 heart rate sensor, 233 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:02,680 the comps, the Polar Pacer. Thank you for everyone's 234 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:04,640 comments, they were absolutely brilliant. 235 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,360 You know what, this is a really shameless way to make ourselves 236 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,520 feel better about ourselves. We should do more competitions 237 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,680 because gives you the warm and funny fuzzies. 238 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:15,320 Reading all the the lovely comments we've got, we have 239 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,800 picked a winner and we'll tell you who it is right after these 240 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,880 messages. No, we will get it to it at the 241 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,960 end of the podcast. So please stick around and we 242 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,360 will share the winner of the Polar Pacer and the H10 heart 243 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,080 rate chest strap. All thanks to Polar. 244 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,080 I'm loving running with my heart rate monitor by the way. 245 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,160 Yep, the still the data, the actual information I'm getting 246 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,680 back, super useful. It's giving me a much better 247 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:40,120 idea of where I'm at running. I'm not quite there to put a 248 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,040 heart rate strap on at the moment, but not too far off. 249 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,160 Back to running, there's a. Really. 250 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,720 Exciting project in the world. I'm really excited about it. 251 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,320 How are you feeling about it? Like Nika here again doing it. 252 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:58,080 The Breaking 4, Breaking 4. So for those people that don't 253 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:04,320 know about Breaking 2, which was the Elliot Kipchoge experiment, 254 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,720 from how long ago did you do Breaking 2? 255 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,960 Like 5 years ago. I'm just going to take a stab at 256 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,640 that. Breaking 2 was a was a I've 257 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,240 brought it up. Wow it sorry. 258 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,200 It was announced in 2016. He raced it in 2017. 259 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,720 So longer it's. Almost eight years ago, this was 260 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,840 when Eliot Kipchoge at a race track in Monza in Italy, with 261 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:31,320 all the benefits the paces the pace car runners to run behind 262 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,240 attempted to break. Yeah, like he had a the two out 263 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,720 of the tree and echelon of runners breaking the wind for 264 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,760 him. That's super interesting. 265 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,520 It was that long ago, and no one's still broken. 266 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:48,680 Two hours Now for those that don't remember, he ran a two 267 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:54,480 hours and 25 seconds, so he was 26 seconds short of breaking 2IN 268 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,960 that experiment. He but even eight years on in a 269 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,960 race situation, the fact he went that time, then he would have 270 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,120 like 8 years is a long time. It just goes to show the shoes, 271 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,240 that first shoe they brought out was the real kind of milestone 272 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,280 jump in technology. So there obviously hasn't been 273 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,960 as big a breakthrough since then in in the running shoe 274 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,640 technology. The world record for those 275 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,160 playing along is still 20257. So it's it's still, you're still 276 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,760 3 minutes off breaking 2 hours in an official race. 277 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,160 But what they're doing with Breaking 4 is really exciting 278 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,920 because it's now they're taking it to the women's track and they 279 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,280 are highlighting Faith Kipiagon, who for those that remember was 280 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,360 the gold medallist, the head of our own Jess Howell at the last 281 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,800 Olympic Games. Down the Aussie. 282 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,680 In the women's 1500 and the challenge now for faith is can 283 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:51,640 she become the first ever female to break the four minute mile 284 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:52,880 barrier I'm. Going to say yes. 285 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,440 You think she does it? Yes. 286 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,440 So you're the you're the pro here, mate. 287 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,120 Explain to me what benefits they can create for Faith in the way 288 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,400 that with Elliot, they had the pace car in front of him, they 289 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,760 had that echelon of runners providing the wind resistance. 290 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,280 They had everything possible. They had the specific track, 291 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,080 everything set up to help him. What can they do for Faith in a 292 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,440 track environment like this to help her break 4 minutes over a 293 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,040 mile? All the same thing, just load 294 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,480 her up in front with paces. I just I don't know what they're 295 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,320 doing around this. Like are they using males to 296 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,560 pace her? I mean, that would be the 297 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,840 obvious. Yeah, let me ask you that. 298 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,080 What would you be doing? Aside from males pacing, what 299 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,400 else could they possibly do with it? 300 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,080 Is there, is there a faster track? 301 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,840 Is there a location which makes this more achievable? 302 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,120 Look, I don't know enough about it. 303 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,000 Would be interesting to see where are they doing it. 304 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,480 Doesn't say this is happening June 26th. 305 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,360 See the the challenge with tracks so you'd go like when you 306 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,360 know cycling when they break the records, they always go to 307 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,000 altitude because of the wind resistance. 308 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,720 The the problem you have there is there's a trade off with the 309 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,080 oxygen you get. So yes, LES wind resistance or 310 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,520 not wind resistance, you know what I mean? 311 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,080 You're at altitude easier, but it's harder to breathe. 312 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,440 So I couldn't see them going up to where there's less oxygen to 313 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,840 do this. Paris. 314 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,720 Oh, OK. So we're we're pretty much see. 315 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,040 Just found it on June 26th in Paris. 316 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,160 OK, I forget everything I would have said, but that is true and 317 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,880 why they're probably going to Paris. 318 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,640 Look, what can they do? I mean, do they use an illegal 319 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,040 shoe? Because track shoes are pretty 320 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,280 defined. So have they got a new shoe? 321 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,200 I would say being the fact it's Nike, it probably is, but I 322 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,120 haven't seen any of this, of this information. 323 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,960 Is it going to be done in legal conditions? 324 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,680 So that would mean using a legal shoe. 325 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,080 Is it done in legal conditions with legal paces, or are they 326 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,840 just throwing the rule book out the window and going, we're just 327 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,560 going to get there if that's the case, New shoes, male paces, 328 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,800 Hey, for all's sake, you could get some big bloody fan like 329 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,240 being a track and going around circles. 330 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,160 You get some industrial fans and get some like a a endless 331 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,360 tailwind. They don't laugh. 332 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,760 Look, if they did that, if they did that, I, I feel like that 333 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,960 would be like just we'll put her on a moving track. 334 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,880 Like, you know, that's not. So you think at that, at that 335 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,560 point it gets silly. They can't do that. 336 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,560 Yeah. So I'm having a look at. 337 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,520 I'm just reading some information, more information 338 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,760 about the race and, and there's some, there's one particular 339 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,800 blog I'm just having a flick through here that says that 340 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,600 she's no chance. Basically she's declaring she's 341 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,880 no chance of doing it. The first bloke to do it was oh, 342 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,000 how's your track history? I'm. 343 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,600 Going to get this wrong. I'm going to get shamed here. 344 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,080 There's people out there listening, screaming, the 345 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,600 answering of their headphones. Right now, I'm just his name. 346 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,080 It was Roger Bannister, correct? Well done. 347 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,560 I got there. I got there. 348 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,760 You. Your reputation was in danger 349 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:51,600 there. Courtney Atkinson. 350 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,280 That was my memory in play, but OK. 351 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,680 Roger Bannister ran 359.4 at the iffly Rd track in Oxford, 352 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,240 England on May 6th, 1954. It became the most famous runner 353 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,160 of all time when he was the first sub 4. 354 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:06,480 Interestingly, and I don't have the data in front of me, but 355 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,280 interestingly once. He did it. 356 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,640 It was her. I think Herb Elliott got there, 357 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,160 but it was all of a sudden there was a mental thing because once 358 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,079 he did it, suddenly I think there was a real run of athletes 359 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,720 that achieved it. So it was kind of like is that 360 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,280 whole thing of if you can see it you can beat it and that all of 361 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,359 a sudden we all saw that sub 4 minute mile was possible and a 362 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,240 bunch of. Them did it. 363 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,360 Oh, I mean, I think that's what's happened in Australian 364 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:33,920 marathoning in the past, kind of, you know, three to four 365 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,320 years as well. Like, but you know, some guys 366 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,840 and girls have started running faster and everyone's just like, 367 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,240 well, that's possible now. I mean, you know, I train with 368 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,920 that person. I can run as quick as them. 369 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,000 And I think that's how a lot of the momentum in Australian 370 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,320 middle and and distance running has happened at the moment. 371 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:53,320 Just for just to go back to faith keep Jaeger bit of 372 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,240 information about her gold medals in the last three Olympic 373 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:01,360 Games 2016, 2020, 2024. No one else, male or female, has 374 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:04,120 achieved that distinction. She's got the world record in 375 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:08,360 the mile for women at four O 764, so she's looking at an 8 376 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:11,520 second improvement roughly. And she's got the world record 377 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,240 at 1500 metres, which is 349 O 4, which basically I think from 378 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,440 a maths perspective works out to be the same. 7 seconds is a lot. 379 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,200 Can I retract my original answer? 380 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,480 Unless she's got, Unless she's got the fans. 381 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,760 So you don't think 7 seconds is achievable no matter what Nike 382 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,520 does for her? Short on giving her an illegal 383 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,440 tail win the whole time. Or illegal? 384 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,960 Something else? But she's still in competition. 385 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,520 She's I think she's 31 at the moment. 386 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:42,080 Yeah, Yeah. 7 seconds is a lot. At that speed, at that, at that. 387 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,240 Well, not so much at that speed, but just at, you know, in 4 388 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,760 minutes to take out. So she's got to pull back. 389 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,000 You know, I want to say about a second and a half a lap or 390 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,000 whatever, just over a second and a half this. 391 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:54,560 And I'm give I'm I'm reading this data and I'll credit him 392 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,240 because it's the the website is bring back the mild.com. 393 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,520 So it's obviously someone who's dedicated to the mild distance. 394 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,360 This bit says to run a 359.9 mile. 395 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:09,000 Kipiagon should be able to run 800 metres in about 151 to 152. 396 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,520 In real life, her best 800 is 157.6. 397 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,840 So she's talking about four and a half second improvement per 398 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,520 800. Well, we'll see, right? 399 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,080 What date is it? June 25th, I think it was. 400 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,040 June the 26th, 26th in Paris. In Paris time. 401 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,520 You can you can watch it on YouTube. 402 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,400 Alright, I'll be there. I. 403 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,240 Will be. There. 404 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,840 I will. Absolutely. 405 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,080 You know what we've talked about? 406 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,280 What gets you to watch running? Yeah, this gets me to watch 407 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,240 running. Yes, yes it does. 408 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,000 'Cause there's a story, Yep. There's a story. 409 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,880 There's a gold storyline and there's a storyline. 410 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,280 Yep. That's a cool storyline. 411 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,480 Hey, hey, this is an. Interesting 1 So few of them. 412 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,840 Few of my brother's mates have been talking about this and 413 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,480 since we've got like such a wide range of audience, we've got 22 414 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,880 year olds that have been listened. 415 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,240 Like I can see the demo of our Audience 22 right through the 60 416 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,880 plus. Sure, you know, which is great. 417 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,120 I don't see demo accordingly, I just see runners. 418 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,320 You just see runners hey, but age decline. 419 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,800 Great topic. So haven't some of my or some of 420 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,920 my running partners were having a good argument about it? 421 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:24,520 So one side is they're adamant that people stop performing at 422 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:29,360 40 plus because of mindset, because mentally they're like, 423 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:35,360 I'm 40 now, OK, I've had enough. The other side is while some 424 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:38,280 still can perform at a decent level, it's a progressive 425 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:43,080 decline from 40 or even earlier. So like. 426 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:51,720 What do you think? I think, I think it's harder 427 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,720 definitely, and I think mindset has definitely in the past. 428 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,480 I think at both ends of the spectrum. 429 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,640 I was trying to explain, I was explaining this two or three 430 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,920 days ago. Tour de France is a great, let's 431 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,800 go to cycling for a shake. I'm gonna go start at cycling. 432 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,800 No one thought anyone could win Tour de France at 2322 years of 433 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:10,960 age. It was always an old man. 434 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Like, you know, you have to do your distances, do your races 435 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,040 and whatever. Now it's just accepted 2223, 436 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,920 These guys are up there winning the Tour de France. 437 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,560 It's completely flipped. Olympic distance triathlon's the 438 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,680 same thing. It was, you know, a real, it was 439 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,600 a you had to mature, you had to do your mileage, you had to do 440 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,880 your racing. That was, it's proven wrong. 441 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,520 Now the young guys are coming out doing just as well in that 442 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,720 space or doing the best in that space without that background, 443 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,800 the. What's his name? 444 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,880 Pogo Car. Yep, he won it the Tour de 445 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,680 France at 21. Yep, I mean the, I mean, all of 446 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,680 them are quite young at the moment. 447 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,160 I mean, they're a little bit older now, but they're still 448 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,480 like they're still mid 20s. That was unheard of on the same 449 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,240 end. On the other end of the scale 450 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,760 though, you've got 40 plus you've got, you know, you take 451 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,280 the Hawaii eye man. There's been multiple guys who 452 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,360 have won that, you know, as they're coming into their 40s at 453 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:04,720 the moment. We talked about Cam Worth the 454 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,240 other day breaking the Old man world record in the cycle and 455 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,120 still getting top ten sort of wise and all that, you know, 456 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:13,240 into his 40s. I actually do believe it's all a 457 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:18,400 mindset thing, but I think the mindset thing's not about so 458 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:23,040 much whether, you know, oh, look, I've got this in my mind 459 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,040 now. I can get across it. 460 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,240 Like there's definitely things as you get older that you've got 461 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,160 to address, so your strength is going to decrease. 462 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,000 There's a whole range of things. But if you've got all of that 463 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,200 background and then you can use it still while you're in your 464 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,040 40s and you can do all the extra stuff to manage your body, yes, 465 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,960 you still can perform. But I then I'm on, I'm on both 466 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,800 sides of this fence because I do believe there is a decline. 467 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,960 You've just got to manage yourself so much better. 468 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,600 But mentally 100% now. Age isn't the factor it once 469 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,680 was. I int like it's it's interesting 470 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,400 to hear that and I think I agree for the most part as well. 471 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,600 I what I will say from an average athlete perspective from 472 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,320 a non professional athlete, because I also think there's 473 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,880 examples in other sports, Tom Brady, LeBron James, Steph 474 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,200 Curry, all these players, Aaron Rodgers, all these Cam Smith in 475 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,680 the NRL, the. I am talking pro. 476 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000 No, no, no. When I was talking then I was 477 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,480 purely elite. You're talking elite. 478 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,160 Athletes, Scott Pendlebury is an example. 479 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,960 In the AFL right now, the ability to play for longer is 480 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,720 only in at the professional level. 481 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,280 I think is only being increased by the technology and the 482 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,800 progression that all the money that's being invested into these 483 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,000 sports. Naturally, there should be some 484 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,680 sort of the, an athlete's lifespan should be longer, 485 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:45,040 right? And, and I mean, in both 486 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,840 directions as well, because you talk about those athletes 487 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,800 winning the Tour de France and things younger, it probably just 488 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,160 an indication that the way of thinking about that sport or 489 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,800 that race from years gone by was was narrow. 490 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,240 So they've opened up their way of thinking about it and as a 491 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,640 result, an athlete's career span is now greater than what it 492 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,320 should be. That just kind of makes sense 493 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,080 from an amateur perspective from a recreational jogger. 494 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:21,000 I don't think it's, I actually think it's more to do with your 495 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,160 history than your age. I think if you have been AI 496 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,800 think if you've got out of your schooling sporting career and 497 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,800 whatever amateur sporting you might have done in your early 498 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,360 20s. And I'm talking about running 499 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,480 here. I think that's a key factor to 500 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,640 it because I think a lot of people hit that mid 20 late 28 501 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,280 bracket, stop playing any form of team sport and suddenly 502 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,840 they're like, I've got a, I've got a bang ankle, I've got a 503 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,520 bang knee, I've got a sore hip, I've got whatever. 504 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,520 And that's what limits them from a running perspective. 505 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,280 I think for me, I got out of my amateur footballing career and 506 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,960 I'm fine to run. And as a result, I'd never, I 507 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,760 got to probably 28 and I'd never run before or made running my 508 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,840 main source of exercise. And suddenly this whole world 509 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,800 opens up and I'm for about to turn 41. 510 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,680 I still think I have PBS across every distance ahead of me. 511 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,960 Yep, there's not, there's not a single distance from 5K up that 512 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:29,120 I don't think I can not P set a new PB on because my body's fine 513 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,320 aside from my calf injuries that I'm dealing with. 514 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,440 But you know, my body's not a limiting factor to it. 515 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,760 And the more I learn, the better. 516 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,840 I'm more educated. I'm becoming around the sport. 517 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,000 Would you, would you say then, though environmental factors are 518 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,760 still limiting? So as you get up like as, and it 519 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,520 may not be specifically around the age of 40, but you know, 520 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,040 depending on when you have kids and when you've got to have to 521 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,160 put more time into a job and kids or, you know, like I always 522 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,920 say, the more time you're sitting down, the more of a 523 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,320 challenge it is, you know, at a, at an older age. 524 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:02,120 I like that. I like that. 525 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:05,720 I think that to me is a is a more accurate depiction of what 526 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,760 happens at 40. It's not the age, it's 527 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,840 everything that comes traditionally at that stage of 528 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,560 life. Traditionally now, if you're a 529 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:19,240 single person who doesn't have a family, has a a has the means to 530 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:24,520 basically live your life in the fashion you want, Yet the age is 531 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,760 almost irrelevant. You know, because if you've got 532 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,560 the means to tackle things as you choose with the resources 533 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,640 you and the time and energy you want to put into that, you can 534 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,760 be selfish because yourself is your only aspect of your life. 535 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,320 The age is irrelevant. Yeah, it's as much as it's as 536 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,120 hard as you want to go, as hard as you want to work. 537 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,360 But if you are married, with a mortgage, with kids, with all 538 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,840 these traditional environmental factors. 539 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,200 More stress at work as you you. Climb the ladder, Yeah, if you 540 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,800 are on that trip there again, traditionally, Yep, the path 541 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,240 leads up for a lot of people. And as the path leads up and 542 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,120 your plate gets busier with other things. 543 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,960 All those other stresses are a factor. 544 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,160 That's what that's like. I truly believe that is actually 545 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,440 the biggest downfall and all this. 546 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,560 The other thing is what we talked about earlier about the 547 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,680 smoking and just the following mentality, the more I also 548 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:19,160 believe as more people have gone on to run, you know, UTA or 549 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,720 marathons, and it's more acceptable, more permissible at 550 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,360 40 and people are improving doing all that, everyone just 551 00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:27,600 follows. Oh, well, I can do that. 552 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,800 Yeah. So there's a that you've broken 553 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,720 down that kind of glass ceiling. That barrier is purely just 554 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,160 people following that. That can be done by him or my 555 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,120 friend or whatever it is, and I can do that as well at both ends 556 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:39,640 of the spectrum. Again, because we're getting 557 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,640 what we're seeing in the marathon data is people like 558 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,520 runners are running marathons earlier and earlier in their 559 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,240 age, like the young 20s are the ones who are driving this 560 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,920 marathon. Boom, crazy. 561 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,480 It's, it's a cool chat. I like that chat. 562 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,400 I've enjoyed that. That's really. 563 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,200 Cool, I've got one for you. I was, I was reading, I don't 564 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,840 know where I was, but I was on a plane, I think reading news.com. 565 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,200 And I've travelled the world most of my life racing. 566 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,200 And it only just occurred to me with this article that did you 567 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:22,160 realise Africa is wider than the whole of Eastern Eastern Europe. 568 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,640 And when I say Eastern Europe, I'm including Russia, the 569 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,640 continent of Russia. Say that again. 570 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,160 So the whole continent of Russia from the, so I so say from the 571 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,840 actual boundary of Russia. So I think there's Poland there 572 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,520 maybe. Oh, you're talking about over. 573 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,080 OK. So yeah, Russia inside that's. 574 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,400 What I'm looking at, I'm going to put this up. 575 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,400 For those watching on Spotify video, I'll put it up. 576 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,040 So from the far eastern point of Russia, the continent? 577 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,760 Yep, through to the far western point of Russia, the continent 578 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,320 that is. Oh wow, so that is not as 579 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,320 because on the globe. We have been taught just just 580 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,640 like the world, you know, with the old flat map. 581 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,320 We have been if this article. 'S true. 582 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,120 I haven't checked this. We have been sold a lie 583 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,880 throughout our whole schooling, throughout all our maps. 584 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,640 Now if you compare so they call it a can you pronounce that one? 585 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:24,760 MERCATR Mer cattle, Amur cattle map versus the actual true size 586 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,320 of land mass, right. So effectively what they're 587 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,440 saying is the way we look, the way maps have been in the past 588 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,320 with straight, straight lines being positioned are for sailors 589 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,640 to go around the world on a flat map. 590 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,320 And when you when they'd have the map in that way and someone 591 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,080 who's even got size degrees is gonna like crush me on this as 592 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,640 the way I'm explaining it, but effectively it, the whole maps 593 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,360 is warped. The maps we're used to looking 594 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,800 at are warped, distorted. So Australia on the map is 595 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,920 distorted to look a lot bigger than what it would compared to 596 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,680 where the equator is to get it flat. 597 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:12,480 Yeah, until I saw this article. I know, I know. 598 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,200 It's hard. It's hard to explain. 599 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,440 But Courtney? Courtney's mind is exploding a 600 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,880 little bit here. I'm baffled. 601 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,000 On the traditional, as I totally understand what you're saying, 602 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,400 and on the traditional globe as we know it, the globe map that's 603 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,760 been flattened out for the purposes of being hung on a wall 604 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,240 in a classroom, Russia appears West to east to be the largest 605 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,600 thing on the planet. Correct. 606 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,560 Another way to put it, they put through it. 607 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,680 So Greenland. If you look at Greenland on a 608 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,960 world map, Yep, it's the size of Russia. 609 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,600 Sorry Russia, it's the size of Africa. 610 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,280 But Africa in true landmass is actually 14 times bigger than 611 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,240 Greenland. So what you're saying is if I 612 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:58,000 was to run across Russia, it would seem more impressive than 613 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,360 if I ran across Africa? Correct. 614 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,800 And I'm sure someone has used that to their advantage. 615 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,480 Absolutely use that to their advantage. 616 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,320 What I'm also saying is, well, we've gone through how many 617 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,000 years of schooling? Oh no. 618 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,400 And no matter what the if this is true, that if someone tells 619 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,200 you something enough, you believe. 620 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,600 It you're becoming a conspiracy theorist like I tell this is 621 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,520 this is going into dangerous territory for this podcast, 622 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,800 Courtney. So, OK, so. 623 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,760 Africa's four times as big as Australia, but have a look at 624 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,920 the map. We need to go and run around 625 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,440 Greenland and then everyone will think we've run around something 626 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,920 as big as Africa and then we say look how big it is, just look at 627 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,400 the map. How big it is like another one 628 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,840 they did is is another way to look at it. 629 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,640 Turn the world map upside down. It looks weird, right? 630 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,480 Yeah. Because when you never look at 631 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,160 it like that, but who's to say the word? 632 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,240 Who to say North should be up if you? 633 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,880 Start talking to me about Flat Earth stuff if you honestly, 634 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,520 this is gone somewhere I didn't think we'd be exploring for 635 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,720 future. I normally when you put stuff on 636 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,640 the run sheet, I just go, Oh yeah, Courtney will take this 637 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,720 somewhere interesting. But today you've taken us into 638 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,040 conspiracy theory terrorists about territory, about the world 639 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,840 being distorted. It's not a conspiracy. 640 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,560 That's the point we're being school have provided us with. 641 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,720 Spoken like a true conspiracy theory. 642 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,560 Jeez, I hope that article's right, because otherwise we're 643 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,040 I'm looking like a right tosser. I like it. 644 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,240 Hey, tell us a bit more about yeah. 645 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,640 Fight Club now. Now to what I want to talk 646 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,120 about. I don't know how I ended up 647 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,240 here, but I did the film Fight Club. 648 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,360 Do you ever seen it? Of course. 649 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,640 OK, awesome movie. Yep, Brad Pitt. 650 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,840 And every, every bloke who might have dreamed about getting 651 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,120 themselves in great Nick Brad Pitt's rig in that film. 652 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,360 It's impressive work. This is what I wanted to ask to 653 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,440 you about though, right? You're a professional athlete 654 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,600 who didn't train for aesthetics, you trained for performance. 655 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,480 Looking at Brad Pitt there though, he's obviously there's 656 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,080 obviously a lot of gym involved with that. 657 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,440 Yeah, and a lot of. Stripping, But according to the 658 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,080 thing that I've found, cardio was the key. 659 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,240 Like I know you're not Apti know you're not a trainer for 660 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,440 aesthetic from a how much cardio do you think you're mixing in in 661 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,080 a weekly on a weekly basis? Clean eating of course assumed 662 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,560 all that stuff, but from a cardio perspective. 663 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,760 Yeah, but see, he was he wasn't, he wasn't huge in the film. 664 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,680 No, he was actually quite. He was my new super lean. 665 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,240 No, but I mean, muscular wise, he was a light. 666 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,520 He was a light frame. He was just so lean. 667 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,760 It just looked impressive. So that's a lot different to 668 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,880 trying to bulk up and clean, right. 669 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,880 He was stripping, obviously doing some weights, but I'm 670 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,120 gonna go. So you're asking me what the 671 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,760 cardio was? He just had to do more cardio 672 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,480 than he was eating. Like he just would have been in 673 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,400 major calorie deficit before the movie. 674 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,720 Yep. So he was running at about 6% 675 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,920 body fat apparently in that film, or 4 to 5 low. 676 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,560 Yeah, but cardio was apparently The thing is cardio, cardio, 677 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,600 cardio, but he only did it twice a week. 678 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,120 But listen, this is what I wanted to get your thought on. 679 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,320 He would do an hour on the treadmill, but he was operating 680 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,320 for that hour at 80 to 90% Max heart rate. 681 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,880 So he's just burning the most calories he could. 682 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,800 So an hour at 80 to 90 of his Max heart rate. 683 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,600 I mean, that's probably improbable if you think about 684 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,320 how hot like even 'cause what you just think about thresholds 685 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,480 and where your threshold is compared to your Max heart rate 686 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,199 you know it'd be. What's redlining for you? 687 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,840 We've talked a little bit about some. 688 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,320 Like I well, like, I mean, I don't know right at the moment, 689 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,880 but like I'd use a 178 is my Max would would be my Max when I do 690 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:02,520 testing and I if I was to to run 10 Ki could go like hold between 691 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:08,000 that 164 to 168. But if I then got into the one 692 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,840 70s, I'm cooked. So on that so. 693 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,400 What's that as a percentage? Well, yeah, so 164 to 168 you 694 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,840 that's sort of around 92 three percent of your. 695 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,920 But let's say 168 on one 7889. OK. 696 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,400 So you're at around that 90%, right? 697 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,160 That's about the zone that Brad Pitt's reportedly, but. 698 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,240 That was 10 Ki wouldn't last 1/2 marathon. 699 00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:34,360 I was gonna say how long and so you're doing your 10K in about 700 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,560 3430330231. What's you're on your best 10K 701 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,640 in? What's your 10? 702 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,480 KPB running off the bike. We'd always like around that 30 703 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,200 off off the bikes. OK. 704 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,720 Yeah. So you're running 30 minutes. 705 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:53,640 So apparently Brad was doing an hour at 80 to 90%, so he would 706 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,280 then double what you're doing. Yeah. 707 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,120 Time wise maybe. Do we think I've fallen for a a 708 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,880 bit of a misinformation here? It's a good, it's a good 709 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,840 discussion. It's great. 710 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,000 I'm I'm, I'm more around like, you know, the body shape he had 711 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,960 in there because in today's movies it's rare to see it's 712 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,080 everyone's buffed. Like they've actually probably 713 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,360 been eating, you know, most of the stars of today's action 714 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,680 movies, they would have been eating, you know, can 14 eggs 715 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,440 and whatever else, chicken breasts and everything else to 716 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:31,000 bulk up and then also stripping where to get that frame where 717 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,440 he's like, it's just pure stripped back body fat, but 718 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,040 still gonna got that light muscle. 719 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,640 He looks like a runner. Yeah, he looks like a. 720 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,280 Runner Well, hey, and have you seen Snatch, the Guy Ritchie 721 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,000 film as well? Yeah, same in that where he 722 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,760 plays the the gypsy boxer. He's very lean he's always got a 723 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,720 frame that kind of lends itself to that anyway. 724 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,880 Yeah, but I'm going to. Imagine they do some like, you 725 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,360 know, before filming, they'd have some good diuretics going 726 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,120 on and yeah, they'd be real. Well, yeah. 727 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,360 How much do you this is? You're not the right person for 728 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,400 this because you're an actual athlete again, who's training to 729 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,600 perform, not to look good, but the idea. 730 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,760 I've got a vague recollection of someone who did some fitness 731 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,520 modelling talking about in the lead up to their shoot day they 732 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,120 would be not drinking what? Dehydrating themselves, 733 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:15,680 basically. Yeah. 734 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,840 I'm assuming there's otherwise that they can accelerate it as 735 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:21,440 well. Yeah. 736 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,080 I'm going to continue to dive. If anybody's got any movies or 737 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,000 TV shows that involve running that they're interested about, 738 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,680 send them through because I'm going to delve into the world of 739 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:36,040 running in on silver screen because Tom Cruise's I wonder 740 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,400 which action star is run the most case. 741 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,120 In their movies. Over their careers. 742 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,840 Well, most of them probably had stunt doubles, so Tom Cruise is 743 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,840 probably you. You would say that Tom Cruise is 744 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,200 probably run. Let me rephrase that. 745 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,840 I wonder which action star character? 746 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,680 Yeah, on paper, whether it's them or they've. 747 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,560 Yeah, Well, that ruins the game. Play the game. 748 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,120 Play the game, Courtney. Like I wonder how far did 749 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,600 Forrest Gump according to the script actually run? 750 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,040 Oh, that's a good call. Like, how much did Tom Hanks 751 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,200 actually run in Forrest Gump? Yeah, I reckon he run less and 752 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,720 he grew his beer well. But then like so if the script 753 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:18,160 says he ran from that state to that state, I started running, 754 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,360 how far did he run versus how much running did he have to do 755 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,240 in the film? Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take a 756 00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:28,280 stab and say he was running like Max 100 metres, 100 metres and 757 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,160 did it a couple of times and then all right, done. 758 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,440 Next week on the show you. You've received that. 759 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,840 One next week on the podcast, I bring to you Forest the running 760 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,600 facts about Forrest Gump, if anybody has. 761 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,560 Take a note so we make sure. If anybody has another I'm going 762 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,120 to put it on next. Week while you're taking while 763 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,400 you're taking a note because that's a great conversation. 764 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,280 I want to keep going on that one next week while you're taking 765 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,560 the note, I want to give a shout out to our Apple listeners 766 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,680 because we we when we're doing the giveaway and and everything 767 00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,320 we we offer, we use Spotify unashamedly. 768 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,040 And what we do realise is there's a lot of people who 769 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,640 listen to us on Apple as well. So we want to give a shout out 770 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,800 today to the Apple listeners, those who you are on there. 771 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,320 So quick cup, quick cup try again. 772 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,400 Quick couple of shout outs. Now what's interesting with 773 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,200 apple, I know they do have the names there. 774 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,640 So TJ from Byron, thank you. Thank you for shout out TJTJ 775 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,560 Addy star one that has to be a Adidas Adidas. 776 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,360 Adidas. Hey, always with a downhill, 777 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,120 downhill skier Alice from New Zealand and she is she's 778 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,640 actually ride Solomon skis. Oh cool. 779 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:47,560 But is sponsored for gear by Adidas, their Terex collection. 780 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,200 And I said to her, and I'm in the car, I was driving her to 781 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,400 this conference I was at and said to her Adidas, oh, sorry, 782 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,880 Adidas and what is it? And she said Adidas, Adidas, 783 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,760 Adidas, like Step 4 because she lives in literally spends all 784 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,800 her time in Austria. And she said, no, no, there's 785 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,480 only one the way. And it's a German way, Adidas, 786 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:07,920 Adidas. You have to say it like you're 787 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,360 Arnold Schwarzenegger. Pretty much, yeah. 788 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,480 Adidas I was, I was given the quick. 789 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,720 Get to the other DAS. Other das so Adidas star one 790 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:21,000 Adidas OK yeah loves us weaving these yarns in well there's been 791 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,960 plenty of yarns today that have gotten a soft track Mike BF best 792 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,640 friend Palomi 94 look there's there's he's one there's but 793 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,640 pretty much there's awesome podcast those interested in 794 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,920 running really enjoying the marathon tips from Benita. 795 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,880 Well that's nothing about us. You know what Benita and Brody 796 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,320 have been a massive asset to? We're gonna have to work out how 797 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,640 we we've them back in at some stage because we've only got 3 798 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,200 weeks left. We'll have plenty more on 799 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,080 marathons coming. So yeah, thank you to all those 800 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,240 Apple. Listeners to our Apple 801 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:55,320 listeners. With the giveaways and that of 802 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,080 course we have of. Course, the Apple comments and 803 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,920 the ratings have gone into the draw for the Polo Watch and 804 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:02,560 heart rate. Yeah. 805 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,920 So then I have one from Rodney. Rodney. 806 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,800 Great name but AKA Doctor Ben. Oh really? 807 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,640 Yeah. I didn't realise Doctor Ben was 808 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,880 going on to Rodney these days. I. 809 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,400 Didn't think he had an Instagram account but it's funny what you 810 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,360 find out about people when they write it in a way you can know 811 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,200 what's going on. So gentlemen term usually use 812 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,440 loosely don't. I don't get to run with Courtney 813 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,760 anymore so I have to comment on Spotify. 814 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,480 He's just doubling down. Wrist heart weight rate does not 815 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,800 work at all. He's though he's saying some 816 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,200 people's doe correlate depending on the sessions. 817 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,600 OK he's saying I've bullied enough people to thinking wrist 818 00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:44,400 watches are useless and I'm still going to bully people to 819 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,120 think that really long hard sessions either in the rain 820 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,360 particularly sweaty days up here in Queensland. 821 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,320 Yes, that's when the they they hit this shit happens, but 822 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,320 pretty much chest straps are more reliable. 823 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:05,560 Summary in summary. He's he's saying, in summary, 824 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,120 test your gear for what works for you. 825 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,520 So basically you can't, don't go on what we're saying, Don't go 826 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,160 on what anybody who sold you the stuff says. 827 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,120 You need to test what works for you to figure out whether it's 828 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,280 going to be a reliable, accurate measure of your heart rate. 829 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,880 Interesting to note that he's dropped down there at the very 830 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,960 end of that message. He said anyone who has listened 831 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,960 to all the podcasts should be able to work out where Courtney 832 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,560 is going for his marathon debut. I have no inside information, 833 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,800 but I can still tell you where. So the thing that upsets me 834 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,200 there, Ben, is I sit across from Courtney and I can't work out 835 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,560 where he's going. Have you made the decision? 836 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,520 No, I'm still we'll get into my running a little bit on it, but 837 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,240 I'm nowhere near my like. The point is it's all, it's all 838 00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:51,240 well and good talking about or having ideas, but until you can 839 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:53,800 actually, until you're actually in training, running for 840 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,680 something, then it's just hearsay isn't it? 841 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,120 Paula Louise, I loved hearing about the New Zealand Mara. 842 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,600 Thank another one. We've opened a can of worms 843 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,440 here. Liam, me and my partner were 844 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,720 talking last week about doing next year and when you guys 845 00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:09,440 spoke about it, was amazed. They want more footy talk about 846 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,760 Geelong and I said well, far out. 847 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,280 Geelong gave us a flogging. What do you want to hear about 848 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,160 what? What footy chat do you want? 849 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,400 Have you, have you had any made any progress with Will Ashcroft? 850 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:22,680 No, no. We were gonna investigate. 851 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,560 Well, we've been so busy with. We have been. 852 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,800 Very running. Running stuff, Liam, Yeah, we 853 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,640 can. That's later in the year, we'll 854 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,040 get on to more stuff like that, but running is our focus at the 855 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,040 moment. Geelong gave Gold Coast Suns. 856 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,800 They gave them a good well, no, I wasn't a flogging. 857 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,200 No, no, no, it wasn't a flogging. 858 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,120 Look, it was a tough loss for the Suns and they're in a a 859 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,080 tricky part of the season at the moment. 860 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,280 It's a good test. It's a good test to see where 861 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,760 they are at against as all the other good teams start to 862 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,600 improve and find their best football. 863 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,680 The Suns started really well, they put themselves in a 864 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,040 position to make finals. Now the challenge is for Dimmer 865 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,880 and the players to navigate their way through this mid 866 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,400 season and and still be in the hunt for finals. 867 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,040 Sort of come back from the BI this week. 868 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,920 They've got the, they've got the weekend off this weekend. 869 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,880 Next weekend they're playing GWS down in Sydney. 870 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,280 I'll be, I'll be calling that game down. 871 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,120 I'm travelling. You're going down. 872 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,320 Yeah, going down to Sydney to call that game for, for Triple 873 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,720 M. So I'll be down there, which is 874 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,920 which is always fun. Together Is it a night game? 875 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,520 No, it's a Sunday afternoon. So it should be sunny, 876 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:23,760 hopefully. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 877 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,360 But GWS are in a bit of a sea soaring season too, so they. 878 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,600 Could go either way, yeah. But it's also, it's just great 879 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,080 to see that the Expansion Cup, as it's known, where the two 880 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,560 expansion signs, GWS and Gold Coast, play each other. 881 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,120 Both teams are fighting for finals because in years gone by 882 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,600 early seasons that game was irrelevant. 883 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,200 Yeah, GWS are being on for years now. 884 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,440 They've been batting really well, yeah. 885 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,560 They're going well. Yeah, So what else have we got 886 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,960 on? Do we sharing Justine comment or 887 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,280 you wanna skip ahead to run weeks? 888 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,360 Leave Justin's till I can do a bit more research on that 889 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,080 because I actually Justin has a comment around power based 890 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,800 running. All right, well, there's some 891 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,400 homework for you. I've got to look into Forrest 892 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,560 Gump. You've got to look into power 893 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,640 based running. Tell me about your. 894 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,840 Running before I blabber on forever. 895 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,720 You've been to New Zealand. We'll get to that story very 896 00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:13,640 shortly. Quickly, I'm back running a bit 897 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,280 and I appreciate everybody that sent out a message after I 898 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,480 posted my 10K run. You were one of those people as 899 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,480 well. He's back back running over 10 900 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,560 KS for the first time in a very long time. 901 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,800 Calf felt great. The thing I found after that 902 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:33,920 recent run as well is as much as I felt like talking about being 903 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,480 injured, not being out of run was good and was was keeping me 904 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,560 sort of calm and composed about everything. 905 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:45,640 I have realised just how important running is for my 906 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,120 mental health, right? And I'm not going to go on about 907 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,520 mental health too much because that's not what we do here. 908 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:56,800 But for me personally, running is really, really important. 909 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,680 I had a pretty tough week on the radio show this week and had a 910 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,360 bit of a tough moment on Wednesday show. 911 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,160 It's been it's been men men's health week in Australia that's 912 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,560 focused on physical health, but also mental health as well. 913 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,960 And I shared a story on our radio show talking about sadly, 914 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,080 a mate of mine who's not with us anymore happened earlier on this 915 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,720 year. And it was really I, I've, I've 916 00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:24,920 not dealt with it. It's not done by any means. 917 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,040 I still, I miss the guy and still talk to our friends about 918 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,400 him. But it, it happened in March. 919 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,520 I didn't talk about it then because the radio show that was 920 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,280 right around Tropical Cyclone Alfred, I would have had lots of 921 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,720 conversations about it. But I spoke about it on the 922 00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:43,560 radio show for the first time on Wednesday and got pretty 923 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,360 emotional about it because it's always hard talking about that 924 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,040 stuff for the sort of the first time, you know, publicly. 925 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:57,840 And whilst radio's really fun occasionally, I think you've got 926 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,480 a, there's a level of responsibility, if you've got 927 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,680 that level of platform to actually use it for something 928 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,160 more than just poking fun at whatever's going on in the Gold 929 00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:09,560 Coast. It was a really tough morning, 930 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:11,920 great support from everybody around. 931 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,640 But then I went for the run the day after, yes. 932 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,760 And it it didn't wash the feelings away because I'm still 933 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,720 sad that my friend's not here, but my brain just felt like a 934 00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:30,840 much, I don't know, cleaner place, if that makes sense. 935 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,680 Is that because when you were running, you're not thinking 936 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,920 you're buying? Well, like, well, I had a 937 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,080 podcast. I was running the streets. 938 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,280 I was just running the roads. What? 939 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,240 What podcast? Come on. 940 00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:42,920 What podcast was I was listening to the Bill Simmons podcast, 941 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,640 which is American sports. Just listening to that just NBA 942 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,240 chat bit of, you know, social media. 943 00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:53,760 It's pop culture stuff. But so I wasn't really thinking, 944 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,800 yeah. But also for me, running, 945 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,120 cleaning out my brain is probably the the best way I can 946 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,480 describe it. It's and there's probably people 947 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,400 out there who know exactly what that feels like. 948 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:05,960 There's probably people out there that go, I don't 949 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,320 understand what you mean cleaning out your brain. 950 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,600 My brain can be a very busy place at times. 951 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:16,680 And the feeling post run I have is as not quiet, but as clean 952 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,200 and unclogged I think as my brain gets. 953 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,320 So it's been really nice having that, just having that one 10K 954 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,760 run bank this week as, and I'm guarantee you if you ask my 955 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,840 wife, she's the one that sees it and she's like, Oh yeah, Liam's 956 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,920 a much easier bloke to be married to and live with when 957 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,360 he's running because everything else comes, comes, yeah. 958 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,400 So I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. 959 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,640 It's. And I know for you the trails is 960 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,800 that particularly? Well, I'm just thinking about 961 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,440 you said anyone listening might not know cleaning out. 962 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,640 I think that that's the beauty of running is you don't need to 963 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,960 know that. You don't even need to think 964 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:04,000 about that because I think it's just a byproduct everyone gets. 965 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,000 Maybe if you're that way inclined that you are a bit 966 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,240 stressed and you are a bit busy, then you realise how good it is. 967 00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:13,880 But most of the time, if it's consistent, yeah, it's just part 968 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,360 of what you do. And that is what is keeping. 969 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,320 I think a lot of things just moving really well. 970 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,840 And I mean, running's one thing like you can go surfing and get 971 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,320 the same feeling. Exactly. 972 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,600 And maybe if I went. Down a biking and probably get 973 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,160 the same feeling maybe sometimes even a better feeling because I 974 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,280 also come back like 1. You get that feeling of being 975 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,600 out there in cleared head, but I also get a bit of adrenaline. 976 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,880 I'll come back like fired as well so. 977 00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:41,000 But yeah, so back running longer, which makes me happier 978 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,240 and the car feels great. There's still there's still the 979 00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:49,440 occasional moment mid run where and it's that I don't know if 980 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:54,000 it's the the not a placebo, but like a you know how sometimes 981 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,720 when if people people have phantom. 982 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Phantom pain. 983 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,720 Sometimes on those runs, I'll have this momentary phantom pain 984 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:06,560 in my calf, which makes me think, Oh no, I've done it 985 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,240 again. But then if I. 986 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,240 It's just your brain, it's your brain concentrating on what you 987 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:15,920 know. Has you felt that pain and your 988 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,880 brains remembering it in that spot? 989 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,440 And that's where running with people can help on the way back. 990 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,080 So there's a catch 22 with running and people on the way 991 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,480 back from injury because one on one side, I think it's brilliant 992 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,400 because you get chatting to someone and it takes your mind 993 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,760 off exactly that experience of looking for the problem to 994 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,920 reoccur because that's what you're doing. 995 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,120 You're like thinking is it, is it coming, is it coming, is it 996 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,680 coming? And if you think about it enough 997 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,240 it it comes in whether it's a phantom pain or whether it is 998 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:44,720 actually a week and it's and it's actual pain. 999 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,680 But then I suppose a bit more, the negative side of running 1000 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,760 with someone on the way back is that they're pushing a bit hard 1001 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,360 and out of your, you know, and pushing a little bit too hard. 1002 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,480 It also can cause injury back. So like for example, if you went 1003 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,280 out and ran too fast and overdid it, that's going to make the 1004 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,320 injury. Obviously. 1005 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,600 Probably. Well I got a message from from 1006 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,440 Adzi after he saw that 10K run, so I look forward to seeing you 1007 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:10,920 at run. Group. 1008 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,600 Oh, right, everybody said settle down. 1009 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,560 No, no, no, he said. I look forward to seeing you at 1010 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,560 Run Group this weekend. I was kind of like, my brain did 1011 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,120 that. I was like, oh, but what if? 1012 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,560 Yeah, not yeah. Anyway, yeah, what about mate? 1013 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,600 Let's talk New Zealand. Yeah, I mean, your trip looked 1014 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,640 amazing. I had one I've well we're as we 1015 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,600 said we're talking Saturday, so I would have been have run 1016 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,880 events. So of all weeks, while I'm 1017 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:39,000 trying to organise a 24 hour run event for for a whole group of 1018 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,840 people, which is gonna be amazing, I had to skip over New 1019 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,200 Zealand for the first three days of the week in the same week. 1020 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,120 So the reason I was over there. So they get Red Bull, get all 1021 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,400 the athletes together in all the different countries from time to 1022 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,760 time. Obviously, being an Australian 1023 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,480 Red Bull athlete, I'm normally with the Aussies, but part of 1024 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,440 what I get to do at Red Bull is I also help out. 1025 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,080 And like, now I'm one of the older crew there, I get to help 1026 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,800 out in some other ways. So I was over with the New 1027 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,720 Zealand crew. And funny thing is, like, you 1028 00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:11,600 know, when they talk about imposter syndrome, yeah, it 1029 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,960 doesn't matter what you do, you're always are going to have 1030 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,360 that. Like I think it'd be interesting 1031 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,480 to talk to some of, you know, different people in different 1032 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,120 areas because like I've often heard people talk about imposter 1033 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,120 syndrome, but like I turn up and I'm the Aussie there. 1034 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,440 But also like everyone is from a different sport. 1035 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,200 So you've literally got, you know, some of the best downhill 1036 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:38,680 mountain bike races, the best Backcountry snowboarders, young 1037 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,480 girl they've just picked up from a snowboarding. 1038 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,760 Her name's cool. Think of a superstar name. 1039 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,040 You know, we talked about her name's. 1040 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,680 Cool. Her name is cool. 1041 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:51,720 Like C double OL, yeah, I You're not becoming Japanese New 1042 00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:54,480 Zealand athlete, you're not becoming an accountant, are you? 1043 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,800 If you're cool. Talk about a superstar now. 1044 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,160 Like as if she is not going to become a superstar. 1045 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,520 You know what? That's called nominative 1046 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,400 determinism. When your name dictates your 1047 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,240 future career or what you're going to do, it's an actual term 1048 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:11,920 called nominative determinism, and it'll be like having a 1049 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,800 dentist called Doctor Candy or. Yeah, well, Usain Bolt, you 1050 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,800 know, cow. Cow is like a name but like cool 1051 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,400 and she is a snowboarder. That's so awesome. 1052 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:23,280 It is. That's. 1053 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,360 So cool and she was cool so cool, but imposter syndrome yes, 1054 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,480 I'm just there going like you know I'm there part of it as we 1055 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,880 did some yoga 1 morning we're out playing golf. 1056 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:38,760 Hey, got out playing golf. Hey Jaden, too bad like I reckon 1057 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,600 I'm like one out of two. I get one on the that's. 1058 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,880 Not we're bad. We're playing Ambres, but like 1059 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,920 you, I just talked about the athletes we're with. 1060 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,560 Pretty much. You can imagine those athletes 1061 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,440 on a golf course in the rain with golf buggies. 1062 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,440 It was the golf was the side show. 1063 00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:01,320 I was gonna say, I also often think that for athletes in 1064 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,400 particular, they're either golfers or they're not like 1065 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,880 cricketers for the most part. Golfers, right? 1066 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,440 Footy players, a lot of them golfers, and then I find that 1067 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,400 you'll get the world's most coordinated athletes in some 1068 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,200 other sport and you put a Golf Club in their hand if they can't 1069 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,200 swing it. You've never seen that athlete 1070 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,480 look less athletic. It was more Happy Gilmore than 1071 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,640 it was. So I don't know who who you're 1072 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,400 going to find at Mick Fanning's golf day yesterday. 1073 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,360 Yeah. But I mean, like just, and I 1074 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,760 just pinch myself sometimes of like where I end up in the 1075 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,320 experiences and, you know, the next day we're back here and 1076 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,200 then, you know, trying to get a whole heap of cruise safely from 1077 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,800 the Gold Coast out to Tannerfield. 1078 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,080 It's just quickly when you yeah, and we don't have to talk too 1079 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,160 much about this if you don't want, but I think do you when 1080 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,400 you look at the guys you raced alongside of and the women you 1081 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:59,640 raced alongside of and what some of them are doing now for life. 1082 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,320 Like you talk about the pinch me and the opportunity that Red 1083 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,520 Bull of you know, you obviously you've fulfilled your end of the 1084 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:11,000 bargain and you continue to do it as an elite athlete then now 1085 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,800 with everything you do. But the fact that your life has 1086 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:19,000 taken that this trajectory post professional Ironman triathlon 1087 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,800 race. Yeah, triathlon when I don't 1088 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,000 know what some of you contemporaries are doing with 1089 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,720 themselves these days. Hey, look. 1090 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:29,280 Everyone, I think one thing that happens is elite sport teaches 1091 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,480 you a structure that allows you to succeed in whatever you want 1092 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,000 to go on to do if you've got that right mindset of going. 1093 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,320 So look, obviously some athletes and this happens a lot, it goes 1094 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,200 one or two ways. They can fall off the rails too, 1095 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,400 because there is that depression element of, you know, no longer 1096 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,360 being, you know, the big fish in a big pond or small pond or 1097 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,880 whatever you want to call it. So and then suddenly they've got 1098 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,200 to find their way in the, you know, what we'd call the real 1099 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,840 world. Without the support, without Co 1100 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,960 support or pop, people told. What to do and all of that. 1101 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,040 So there's a whole new relearning there. 1102 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,760 So there's definitely that element there. 1103 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,960 But most of the people I grew up, I mean, triathlon wasn't 1104 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,120 like you got to retire off triathlon, right? 1105 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,280 It's not like some, it's not like we're golfers or, you know, 1106 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,560 footy players. So you, you generally have to go 1107 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,920 off and do something else. But some of them have become, 1108 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,440 you know, in, in corporate lives. 1109 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,120 Some of my best mates, like I go on holidays with, you know, 1110 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,240 became really successful in their corporate worlds and sales 1111 00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:26,920 managers, whatever they are these days. 1112 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,960 And some people created clothing brands and kicked on that way. 1113 00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:34,880 The beauty of what you know, what I'll give you, you know 1114 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,200 what drives me? The one base element that drives 1115 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,840 me in everything I do is decisions are made on. 1116 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,600 I still want to be able to be as close to an athlete. 1117 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,360 Like, I love the outdoors and I love training and I love. 1118 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,520 Being the athlete lifestyle. I love. 1119 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:54,520 Yeah. Well, it's not even the 1120 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,560 lifestyle. It's actually more the, the, the 1121 00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:03,440 feeling of being able to be fit outdoors, healthy and promote 1122 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,840 that. That's what drives me because I 1123 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:08,960 like, you know, we're sitting here. 1124 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,120 That's part of the reason it's great sitting here talking to 1125 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,400 you is that we're driving people to go out. 1126 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,880 And, you know, if we, you know, some of the comments that come 1127 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,720 through and say, you know, I'm listening to you and that's 1128 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,840 helping me, you know, get back into running or, you know, some 1129 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,680 of that. That's what I love doing now 1130 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,240 more than anything. And I suppose in a way that's 1131 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,840 where, you know, I can kind of give back a little bit to the 1132 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,320 younger athletes. Like they're very oh, this old 1133 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:32,320 dude like. God. 1134 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,240 Can you imagine when you're like 20 what you thought of? 1135 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,520 Yeah, but on the flip side, there's certain elements that I 1136 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,560 think you'd go well, like I can take some of that stuff away and 1137 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:43,920 the shit I don't want to listen to. 1138 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,480 Yeah, yeah, just like, no, it's really, it is really cool 1139 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,840 because and everything you just spoke about is it's a 1140 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:56,440 fascinating like it aids. It's cool to see you and doing 1141 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,600 what you do around the Red Bull brand and I think it's a really 1142 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,800 cool brand, but it's cool to see the way and it's to listen and 1143 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,560 learn about the way you manage that side of your stuff. 1144 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,160 But it's also really interesting, I think subplot to 1145 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:14,160 the professional athlete life, which doesn't get talked about a 1146 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,880 lot. And I know a lot of the football 1147 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,000 organisations are a lot better at managing. 1148 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,640 You know your career is only a snippet of your life. 1149 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,680 Well, that'll be a great chat for one of our guests coming up 1150 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,080 around Gold Coast Marathon because, you know, to hit the 1151 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,440 top of the tree and then you know what life looks like for 1152 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,120 athletes once once you're out of, you know, of, you know, 1153 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:39,200 racing an Olympic Games. Pretty much my local race 1154 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,160 conversation each week that I want to keep bringing. 1155 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,120 So this is a great one. I love, Oh, you know, you know 1156 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,960 my how much I love QLD. And this one from Kyle Adams, 1157 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,000 he's running events up in Queensland, in God's country 1158 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,760 around just out West of Gladstone, so the boying Valley. 1159 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,080 And he actually wrote to me asking about, he runs a backyard 1160 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,000 ultra. And I was honest with him and I 1161 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:09,600 said my backyard ultra is really all like, yeah, yeah, I, I get 1162 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,280 it. But like, yeah, whatever. 1163 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,640 He said, don't worry. I've got a 50K through the 1164 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,160 valley as well, 50K trail race. So that's, that's more 1165 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:16,960 interesting. Yeah, yeah. 1166 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,040 If you're up, if you're up in the north or you actually ever 1167 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,520 want to travel up around that area of, you know, you got 1168 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,040 Gladstone up there. I've talked a lot about going up 1169 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,720 to 7070 Agnes Water to go on holidays, that whole area. 1170 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,280 Yeah, Kyle runs through milepost events. 1171 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,760 If you want to Google it, we'll put the link in as well. 1172 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,080 But he runs a a number of trail events up there, which, oh, 1173 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,480 cool, you know the country. I'll try and get some photos of 1174 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,800 when I've done some adventuring out the back there in the 1175 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:42,920 mountains. It's beautiful. 1176 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,120 Yeah, amazing. Great spot. 1177 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,040 Mining and it drives the country, and that's mining 1178 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,600 country, man. Mining country, we got to 1179 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,000 listen. Shout out to give to Davey 1180 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,200 Wilson. We do. 1181 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,680 Hey, boys. Oh, you want to read it? 1182 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:55,720 You. Oh, I'll probably. 1183 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,080 Read it please. There's no big, there's no 1184 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,080 difficult words in there. But Dave has said, long time 1185 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,920 listener, first time commenter, which is great. 1186 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,560 Been here since the beginning and love how you have challenged 1187 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,240 my thinking around running and how I've evolved in that time, 1188 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,720 which is interesting because we're what are we 10 months in? 1189 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,440 Dave said. I fell back in love with 1190 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,880 running, trail running in particular in 2019 after 1191 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,160 listening to the book Born to Run. 1192 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,360 Now he's born to run the. It's the one about the the. 1193 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,360 Is that the the? South South Americans South 1194 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,560 American yeah, tribe so. If you haven't, it's a really 1195 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,280 it's by Christopher McDougal. It's called born to run, the 1196 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:36,680 hidden tribe, the ultra runners, and I'm just finishing that the 1197 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,480 the hidden tribe, the ultra runners and the greatest race 1198 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,280 the world has never seen. So it's a it's a really good 1199 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:44,520 book if you're interested in running. 1200 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,200 So he's, he's listened to that book as an audiobook. 1201 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,200 Go check it out. Dave said it took me all the way 1202 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,000 back to me as a 5 year old. He's now 42, starting little 1203 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,680 athletics and that feeling of just loving running and 1204 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,760 competing. It started off slow and quickly 1205 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,400 turned into a result of following Goggins at the time 1206 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,720 into let's run as far as we can as soon as possible, right? 1207 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,320 You would not be alone Dave and falling into that trap. 1208 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,960 He said What a journey it's been in these past six years. 1209 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,120 I've had the pleasure of experiencing overtraining, tight 1210 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,680 Itbs, having to stop and start all over again, but I managed to 1211 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,280 complete the BTU 60 in just under 9 hours. 1212 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:23,640 And last year IP Bead at the GC, Mario in 342. 1213 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:29,640 Yes, this year I love this. This year I've adopted your 1214 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:34,960 motto from today, last week's podcast of Go Harder not longer. 1215 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,080 Thanks for making me a better runner. 1216 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,520 Grateful. Go harder not longer. 1217 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,680 This is the motto we came up if anybody missed. 1218 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,720 If this is your first step, go back and listen to last week's 1219 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,480 step. The idea of don't just go 1220 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,360 further because everyone else is doing it. 1221 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,640 Why not try and go harder Not longer? 1222 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,920 We've got, I know we said we wouldn't make T-shirts and start 1223 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,700 making merch, but I feel like Go Harder not longer is a great 1224 01:01:57,700 --> 01:01:59,360 T-shirt. I'd run in that. 1225 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,920 Anyway. Shout out Dave. 1226 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:02,720 Thank you mate. Yep, Yep, Yep. 1227 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,480 Yeah, mate. No, you can trademark it. 1228 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:07,440 We're there. Oh. 1229 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:09,800 What are we talking? I don't know how to trademark 1230 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,000 things. You might have to do that bit. 1231 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,440 All right, Have we arrived at giveaway time? 1232 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,720 We have Pola Pacer GPS running watch. 1233 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,240 Share that to the team from Pola. 1234 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,560 They're a fantastic partner of the Gold Coast Marathon, and 1235 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,560 they've gotten behind this podcast as well. 1236 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,760 We got the Polar Pacer watch. We got the H10 heart rate 1237 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,520 sensor. Courtney Atkinson, would you 1238 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,720 like to be honest? I would that was right. 1239 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,760 Thank you to everyone who wrote in firstly. 1240 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,400 That's the best drum roll I can do for you, Can I? 1241 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,920 Is this the time to say I thought you had it? 1242 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,800 Oh no. Yeah, it would have been. 1243 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,800 You know what? I'm going to read the comment 1244 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,400 and then I'm going to tell the name. 1245 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,600 The comment was this. It's been a while since I've 1246 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,840 found a podcast that's left me hanging for the next episode to 1247 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,200 come out. You have become a regular part 1248 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,400 of my morning gym and run routine. 1249 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,680 Particularly enjoy the combination of the weekend 1250 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,640 episodes and the Gold Coast series. 1251 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,360 Thanks for keeping me smiling on these chilly Melbourne mornings. 1252 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:23,000 Congratulations to Jackie Bladier, Jackie, you have won 1253 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:29,120 yourself a Polar Pace Watch AH10 heart rate sensor and most 1254 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:35,600 importantly, the appreciation of Courtney myself for getting on 1255 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,280 board this podcast because we know, look, it's easy to get 1256 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,920 around running and get around this podcast from 2 Gold Coast 1257 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,840 blokes. If you're on the Gold Coast or 1258 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,000 if you're in sunny Queensland, but Melbourne, that is a brutal 1259 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,000 place to be a runner, to train regularly, to get yourself out 1260 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,760 the doors in the morning wearing 17 layers and go and train 1261 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,360 consistently and for this podcast to be a part of your 1262 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,120 routine. Now Jackie, we are absolutely 1263 01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,800 stoked and we want to thank you for getting behind the podcast 1264 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,760 and sending us in that comment and that giving that rating as 1265 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,160 well. Yeah, so we'll we'll get in 1266 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,880 touch with you on the messages. Otherwise, DM us on Instagram as 1267 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,920 well, Jackie, and we'll get that down to you. 1268 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,280 And this is being successful enough. 1269 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,520 Like we'll we'll look to do some more of this in the future. 1270 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,560 So everybody else that that did that did comment and and share. 1271 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,640 Thank you. And we'd love to be able to give 1272 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,640 you all all the watch and and A and a heart rate strap. 1273 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,040 We don't have that many because there have been hundreds of 1274 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,160 well. Now we've got to go and do some 1275 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:28,880 work and find some. Yeah. 1276 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,680 And I think this has given us sufficient motivation that we 1277 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,080 need to go and find some other partners. 1278 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:34,920 And there are people out there that have approached us, but 1279 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,440 we'll find some appropriate partners for us to to do some 1280 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,560 more stuff with down the track. Alright, that is us done. 1281 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,160 Make sure you share this with your friends and family. 1282 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:45,800 We keep on growing and we'll see you next. 1283 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:46,880 Week. See you next week.