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Hopefully. 
What are you getting done? 

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We're doing a tour tab. 
I think the tour has decided 

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that we want to do a yes Sir, 
no, no problem at all. 

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We're going to do the kangaroo 
crossing side. 

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No you're not. 
That's so fucking cool. 

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Yeah, we're going to do the 
kangaroo crossing. 

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Sound like the crossing signs 
y'all have on the side. 

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We think it's cool, man. 
That's awesome. 

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Where are you getting it done? 
I'm going to do my legs. 

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So I used to do all my tour 
tattoos, like this is my quaka 

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which I got 7 years ago. 
I never thought I would have 

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ever been able to come to 
Australia when I got this quaka 

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tattooed. 
I got it because I never thought

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I'd see a quaka. 
So it's a really big. 

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Deal. 
Have you seen one yet? 

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Dude are we pod we don't want? 
Yeah. 

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No, we're gone. 
OK. 

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Good dude, I have been hanging 
out with quakas. 

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Oh, really? 
It's been crazy. 

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Are you going to Rottnest? 
You tell them a pod, they're 

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just sorry this is. 
That's all good man are. 

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You. 
Walls are thin, baby. 

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Are you going to Rottnest? 
Sorry, so sorry. 

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Are you going to the home of the
Quackers while? 

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You you know what, dude, I hate 
to be this guy. 

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I I was going to come here if 
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have allowed me to at some 
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Island and see the Quackers. 
Yeah, but what's the name of the

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wildlife? 
Because we deserve to give them 

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a proper shout out. 
I'll go get the real information

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right now. 
Yeah. 

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Thank you for crossing in front 
of the camera. 

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So. 
So. 

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Fucked down the hall, right? 
They suck, right? 

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Yeah, yeah, they deserve a 
proper shout out. 

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So these people brought 
quackers. 

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To you here. 
Yes dude, they brought just not 

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just quakas. 
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quaka that I got to name and 
feed, bottle feed and they gave.

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They brought a koala. 
What else did they bring? 

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They brought some lizards. 
They brought lizards. 

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No dude, they brought a 
Tasmanian devil. 

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Feisty. 
At least from Australia, it must

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be from Australia Zoo has to be 
right. 

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From up the M1 Navy. 
I mean, quackers aren't 

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Queensland, where we are the 
state we are in at the. 

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Moment no, no, no. 
But this is a part of a 

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programme that they have all 
across Australia to like 

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populate quackers. 
I love that he's educating us on

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our wildlife. 
Yeah, this is crazy, right? 

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You know what's cool? 
They're doing it with koalas 

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too. 
We don't need more koalas. 

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Now you need no no no, no, no, 
no they're they're getting 

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endangered. 
You do not have heaps of koalas 

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y'all this is sad news. 
You also tune into this, you 

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also tune the the disrespect you
have from your wildlife you've. 

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Been listening. 
To ABCS, yeah, I'm telling you, 

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I'm talking to the locals that 
they're scared. 

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They're like the only known 
predator of the koala is man. 

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They're chopping down all their 
trees. 

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Yeah, yeah, they're. 
They're they're dying, man. 

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So they're like they're trying 
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like a big on preserved. 
They're actually more worried 

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about the koalas right now than 
they are the koacas. 

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And obviously Kangaroos are 
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We got too many of. 
Those that you have too many of 

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those that's real Kangaroos are 
y'all's white tailed deer. 

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So I'm from the South back in 
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I'm from Tennessee, which is 
what they call the South if 

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y'all heard of it. 
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deer four months a year, three 
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didn't they would just run us 
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And that's what is happening 
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If I. 
Heard. 

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Yeah, no, I heard they sell the 
meat. 

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Yeah, you buy kangaroo burgers 
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You are to to move away from the
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Sorry. 
Sorry I came in so excited. 

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Yeah. 
No, that's OK. 

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But we are. 
We can. 

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Talk about the AFL too. 
I know, I know a little bit, a 

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little bit about the AFL. 
We are in the home with the 

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Brisbane Lions right now, sorry.
This is good. 

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No, no, this is. 
Good. 

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So see Liam here commentates. 
No way. 

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Commentates the AFL. 
If you want to know about AFL, 

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he's a man I. 
Want to a commentator? 

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Do you want to talk about this 
on the pot or something else I 

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don't want to take? 
Over your pot but. 

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I love that AFL. 
Dude, what do you like about it?

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So I just got into footy. 
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like I'm a long time fan, but 
when I got here I immediately 

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tuned into footy. 
Y'all have the Fox Footy Channel

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and dude it plays footy classics
on 24 hours a day, no 

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commercials. 
It is the best channel in sports

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history of every country I've 
ever been to and I'm up all 

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night and day watching. 
Footy Have you got a team yet? 

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No, this is. 
The thing we love to do to 

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Australian visitors when when 
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here, all the football teams 
climb over one another to hand 

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them a jumper and make them an 
international supporter of the 

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team. 
So have you got 1 yet? 

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No, well, listen, I have a 
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one of the they do YouTube, 
they're called the Fairburn 

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brothers, yes, and they are 
trying to draught me to be an 

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Adelaide Crows fan. 
Listen, listen, the first game I

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ever watched was a the first was
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It was a Geelong game. 
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little bit there but I think I 
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It feels like it would be low 
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in light of them having their 
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right? 
You're going to Adelaide next 

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though. 
What I like about the possibly 

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being a Crows fan and I'm I'm 
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Y'all, I'm a whore here. 
Anybody can pitch at me. 

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Please sell me on your best team
and I'll make a public 

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announcement before I leave 
Australia because I'm just into 

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the sport. 
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Adelaide Crows is from what I 
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horrible franchise for a while 
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better. 
Like just had their first little

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playoff run, which is a big deal
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Got beat pretty early, but it 
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I'm back home in the American 
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I'm a fan of what they call the 
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Titans and they're terrible. 
We're the second worst team in 

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the National Football. 
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So I kind of want to cheer for a
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saying? 
Like instinctively not a bad. 

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One can I, can I, can I give you
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I'll present an alternative 
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Adelaide aren't that bad. 
They're not as bad as the Titans

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and given your love of Quackers,
the West Coast Eagles, which are

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in Perth, a Perth based team 
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Rottnest, they're awful and they
and they and they've been awful 

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for a while now. 
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Eagles, but I'll leave it up. 
To you listen, I want to support

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them 'cause they feel like they 
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possibly. 
I struggled with the, the name 

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Eagles as an American Football 
League fan like I love there's a

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couple of things y'all have here
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I struggled with that too. 
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city, but I, I love Philadelphia
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But I mean the Eagles, you know,
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There's a rugby league team down
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Titans. 
We got a Titan team here, it's a

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rugby. 
Team, it's a rugby. 

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Union, I'll be honest man, hot 
take and I might get in trouble 

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on your podcast for saying this,
but once you've watched 

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Australian football, it's hard 
to watch rugby again, right? 

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A little bit. 
Am I wrong? 

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You know what I'm saying? 
It's just, it's just a hot. 

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Tonight, it's a great take 
because rugby league fans are 

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gonna be watching this, are 
gonna be, they're gonna be 

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throwing, they're gonna hate 
they're. 

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Gonna be good? 
No. 

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Please don't judge my music. 
My music's still good, I swear. 

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Please. 
So where we are right now, like 

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Brizzy, both teams won NRL, so 
rugby team Brisbane, yeah. 

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This is the home and football's.
Sign the. 

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Foot at the moment, oh, they're 
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Yeah, that's pretty much sure. 
Yeah. 

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We've got to ask the question 
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about two hours from you 
performing to a sold out crowd 

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here in Brisbane. 
First Australian show. 

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Why did you say yes to talking 
to a running podcast? 

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Oh dude, we haven't got there 
yet because I've made y'all talk

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about all my other Australian 
things, but running is where I 

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started my weight loss journey. 
I'm so back in America. 

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I was what you would call peak 
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I mean, I was 550 lbs. 
I mean, I was like the ones they

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have on TV, have those shows 
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My £600 life, the 3000 LB 
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I'm like, you know, right below 
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But I'm still peak Australian 
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Like, you know what I mean? 
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running podcast. 
Like I'm here to share my weight

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loss journey and most 
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what do you look like first? 
540, that's about 2:40. 

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I would have been all over you 
right now. 

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Is that the best way to put it? 
So, OK, so that explained 

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because I'll be honest, we were,
can I give you context on what 

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we were doing when we got the 
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Courtney and I Courtney is by 
the way, is a two time Olympian 

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team wins the 2. 
Olympic Games. 

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Red Bull triathlete. 
Amazing, amazing guy. 

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We were sitting down recording 
an interview with a guy called 

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Matt Hauser, who is an 
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recently won the World 
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And that for us was an amazing 
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We're sitting there, first time 
an Aussie in 20 years has won 

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the world championship. 
Good. 

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And we're sitting there talking 
to him going, this is amazing. 

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We're talking to this guy at the
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And then I missed a bunch of 
phone calls and then I had a 

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message saying you guys have got
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We were just like, what is 
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What is life? 
So this is exciting for us. 

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This is cool, man. 
This is very cool. 

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No, it was, I was super into it 
when they said it was about 

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running and I was familiar with 
you through some Red Bull stuff 

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anyways, yeah, it was super 
cool. 

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So then I was like, this is 
dope, you know what I mean? 

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I was all in and running was 
such a key part of it is right 

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now. 
Even the culture of what we do 

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on tour, you know what I mean? 
Like I'd probably say five of 

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our guys got up and did three to
10 miles apiece today. 

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We were talking to JB before for
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Yeah, he's in now. 
He's like really created a 

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culture which had you met us on 
tour five years ago, that would 

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have been more like cocaine and 
alcohol and, you know, it would 

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have been a totally different 
culture. 

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But now we're like all get. 
How did you change that? 

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Like how do you go from racking 
up lines and putting on the 

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shoes? 
Dude, I know this sounds cliche 

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and I don't know why I didn't 
see the forest for the trees in 

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the moment, but like, I was the 
problem, you know what I mean? 

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Like everybody was just 
following my lead. 

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If I was dragging us to bars 
till 3:00 or 4:00 in the 

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morning, everybody was following
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And in my mind, and this is the 
alcoholic mind is I was 

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following the party to the bar. 
I was a participant in this 

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whole thing. 
I you know what I mean? 

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No, I was the problem because 
all of a sudden when I quit 

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drinking it, just how much of 
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me in general. 
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basketball, people started 
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basketball. 
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nutritionist got hired because 
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component to all this, right? 
I think we can all agree is it's

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funny, I talked to now, I talked
to other fellow fatties and I'm 

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trying to help them early in 
their journey. 

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You know what I'm saying? 
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they want to post all their 
little workouts. 

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And I'm like, look, man, that's 
cool. 

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But if you're going home and 
eating McDonald's, dude, it's 

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like, you know what I mean? 
Like, post your meal. 

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You want to impress me? 
Show me what you're actually 

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eating. 
Starts and finishes the fridge 

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rock. 
But he's like, he's a running 

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guy, my nutritionist. 
So he was like, you know, let's 

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get into running. 
And a couple of comedians back 

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home, a guy named Bert Kreischer
and Tom Segura did this thing 

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called the Two Bears 5K. 
And if you've ever heard, he 

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knows them. 
But have you ever heard of these

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guys? 
Yeah, I love the they're and 

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Tom. 
Tom's the goat, but they're 

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absolute degenerates. 
So I was like, if these two 

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degenerates are going to do a 5 
Ki mean, that means my kind is 

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welcome here, you know? 
And it kind of opened the floor 

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for running for us. 
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history, we've probably had or 
are fixing to have the biggest 

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5K ever. 
We this is how we come out. 

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I saw you create the Jelly roll 
losers run club and that was 

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probably since we've been to 
chatting about running together.

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That was like the highlight. 
I was like, because my whole 

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life has been, you know, elite 
endurance sports. 

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And like, when I'm at school, 
like, we're the nerdy runners, 

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right? 
And now everyone, everyone wants

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to run. 
It's just like going huge. 

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So Someone Like You, like, I 
suppose Someone Like You putting

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us on a pedestal and like 
showing everyone else running. 

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That has been absolutely massive
for us. 

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And then I saw you on with Ken 
Haynes. 

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So what I wanted to do when we 
first reached out? 

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Wanted to take here. 
I saw you rocking up a mountain 

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with Cam and I'm like, I want to
do that for Jelly. 

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Dude, how far is it from here? 
Well, we can do anywhere, but I 

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wanted to take you. 
Running. 

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Is there one? 
Is there a trail around here? 

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We. 
Yeah. 

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Now no. 
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 

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I'm like, but I'm here for two 
days because we got the Gold 

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Coast tomorrow, right? 
Or Suncoast. 

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Sunny. 
Sunny. 

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Coast, Sunny Coast. 
We're we're down this way, yeah,

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man, but. 
You can do Mad Cootha, yeah. 

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We'll chat after. 
Man, I would love to take you 

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because like you know, there's 
America's Got amazing places to 

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run, but Australia, like you 
love the animals here. 

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We've got some unique terrain. 
Like I was running up the back 

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of the Gold Coast the other day 
doing a little bit of rocking 

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like you were doing with Cam. 
And we're laughing because I've 

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been having a little bit of 
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And as I'm walking up this and 
I've got 10K on my back, which 

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for me is like pretty decent. 
And there's this little whip 

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snake just. 
And I'm jumped, man. 

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I've jumped. 
And like, you know, it's all the

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other things that come around 
and my, and then my calves go on

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again. 
All I want to do is run. 

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All I want to do is run for 
fitness. 

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And that, you know, these are 
the things we'll face. 

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But I wanted to show you the 
Australian Bush. 

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I'll show you the Australian 
Bush. 

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Yeah. 
I'd love this. 

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Yeah. 
OK, we're getting the thumbs up 

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off it. 
The zoo is called Big Pineapple.

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Yeah, it's up towards the Sunny 
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So it's it's, yeah. 
Yeah, like ours, the guys that 

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are being nice. 
So Jelly, you talk about your 

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size, right? 
And I want to introduce you to 

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this concept that exists in 
Australia next weekend. 

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A bit further up from where 
you're playing your next gigs on

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the Sunny Coast is a little town
called Noosa. 

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Noosa Triathlon's happening and 
it's the most second biggest 

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triathlon in the world. 
And they have a category called 

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the Clydesdale category, which 
is exclusively for guys over 100

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kilos really. 
Yeah, 100 kilos is like 220 lbs,

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right? 
Yeah, two 220 lbs. 

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So it's a, it's a, it's a 
category that you enter that's. 

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Me I'm a class. 
You're a Clydesdale. 

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I'm a Clydesdale. 
So what? 

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Because it's this. 
There's in this world that we 

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live in, and Courtney and I talk
about this bit. 

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There's cancel culture and 
everybody wants to complain. 

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You've got to be politically 
correct about everything. 

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Oh, that's happening here too. 
Oh yeah. 

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Oh dude that stuff sucks man, 
don't fall for it so. 

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It's all a joke. 
This is what we love about the 

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Clydesdale thing, is that here 
is a world where they go if 

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you're a big guy or a big one 
because there's a girls category

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too. 
We want you to be proud of the 

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fact that you're getting out 
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that weight and we are trying to
push for marathons to start 

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including the 100K plus category
so you can still go out and win 

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your category even if you wanted
the bigger guys bigger. 

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Girls, No, dude, it's like, I 
think it's like, I'm also really

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big and this has been something 
I fight with back home about 

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cancer cultures. 
I'm just big on calling it what 

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it is anyways. 
And dude, when you struggle with

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obesity the way I did, the joke 
is when I call somebody fat, I 

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don't mean it in a mean way. 
I just mean it in the most 

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honest way that I wish more 
people would have been with me. 

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And I'm also going to tell you 
something. 

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You've never seen a fat person 
and told me you never were the 

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first person that acknowledged 
it for them. 

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That's for sure. 
You know what I'm saying? 

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It's just always, you know, it's
never like a news like how dare,

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no way. 
You know what I'm saying? 

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It's just it's it's like how we 
package it out of love. 

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And I think it's if we can 
create spaces where these like 

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people like me feel, you letting
me on your running podcast as a 

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dude my size makes me feel 
accepted. 

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You know what I mean? 
Because like Cam being my 

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friend, like Cam reaching out to
be my boy. 

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Send me this clip because it how
many Cam? 

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I tell them it's all the time, 
but I want to see it in front of

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the world. 
I tell them personally that 

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means so much to me. 
Like Cam could have the idea 

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that a guy who's literally at 60
years old or however Cam is 50 

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some years old was just in the 
top 20 of the Moab, you know 

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what I mean? 
Last year. 

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A guy like that still looks at a
guy that's like huffing and 

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puffing up a hill and it's like 
I'll walk with you. 

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My I think I told you. 
I don't know if I told you seen 

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this story, but I'll tell you 
here is the first five Ki ever 

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did. 
I was 470 lbs. 

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It took me like an hour and 15 
minutes to walk hour and 25 

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minutes to walk. 
And it was the big two bears 5K 

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and I went from like 520 to 470 
to even be able to walk it. 

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Like when I first started 
training for it. 

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I could walk like maybe a mile 
at best and it was like a 36 

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minute mile. 
I mean, I mean I was a slug and 

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Cam walked that whole, he walked
it with me. 

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That's who Cam is as a human. 
We're talking about one of the 

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baddest dudes in the world. 
He could have ran that thing 

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backwards 7 times, you know what
I mean? 

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Like with his eyes closed. 
And he ran it that morning with 

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his son, you know what I'm 
saying? 

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I think Truitt showed up in 
jeans or something, just busted 

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it out for the boys and then him
and Philip Franklin Lee and then

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walked it with me. 
Literally the whole 3 and 

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something miles like that was 
the stuff that encouraged me. 

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That's when I looked at cameras 
like I'm going to run Mount 

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Piska with you one day. 
And I haven't ran it with him 

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yet, but we've walked it, you 
know what I'm saying? 

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And I only stopped once for a 
little, little like a like a 

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minute break. 
But my goal is to jog it with 

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him when I go back on tour this 
next year. 

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Dude would love to do it in 
Australia. 

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That's amazing. 
What goes through your head when

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you're running? 
Do you listen to music? 

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Like are you? 
Do you need noise to cancel 

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stuff out? 
You let the voices in? 

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What are you thinking? 
Got to hear it, got to fight it.

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That's what got me into running 
was the concept of like this is 

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so inside baseball, but my life 
has become a production by light

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of been light of success. 
And it's weird. 

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It's a new concept for like a 
super average white trash kid to

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like, you know what I'm saying? 
Like all the sudden there's all 

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these moving parts to your life 
and doing everything requires 

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like 20 other people knowing 
what you're fixing to go do. 

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But in this small world of 
running, I could just like sneak

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away and just do it, you know 
what I mean? 

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Like whether it's on the street 
or I just get into a little, I 

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know some people will hate me 
for this, but just my lifestyle.

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I have to get on a treadmill and
I get on that corner treadmill 

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and I can just, nothing matters 
but my thoughts. 

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And more than anything, I'm 
reminding myself as David Goggin

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says, to beat that bitch out of 
me. 

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Like any little inner bitch in 
me, I'm just running like you 

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are. 
You are fucking being a bitch 

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right now. 
You know what I'm saying? 

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Like, and I do self assessment, 
like, you know, gratitudes is a 

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big thing for me now when I run,
like it's a great way to really 

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like right after my run, I love 
to do my morning gratitudes. 

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I think about them on the run. 
So I'm kind of cooking them. 

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So when I come home to ride on 
their like fresh, fresh, you 

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know, like it's really cool. 
And I'll sometimes I'll even if 

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I didn't, if I left some 
inventory unchecked the night 

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before, I'll deal with it on the
run the next morning too. 

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You know what I mean? 
Like if there was something I 

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left lingering it was like I 
don't know if I made peace with 

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how that went. 
The more than the next run. 

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I'll just deal with that demon 
first. 

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How do you go running like 
you're on tour like this and 

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obviously everyone's going to 
recognise you. 

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How do you go running out on the
streets or you just on the 

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treadmill more? 
So dude, here's I'll tell you 

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fun stories about running for 
us. 

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It's like we've done it in the 
arena sometimes. 

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Like if it we can't get out 
during the day and find a way to

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do it. 
Like, you know, most arenas are 

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a circle. 
So we'll just go up and just dog

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it, you know what I'm saying? 
It's just fucking 60 laps around

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the arena. 
We're just inside the arena. 

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You look at the straw and it's 
just just one big circle around 

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and you're like, and you didn't 
even go yeah, or, and you didn't

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even go outside the arena and 
you just did it in the arena. 

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But sometimes we'll just run 
through the streets early in the

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days, man. 
We don't really get bothered 

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much. 
Something I really think 

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especially even back in America,
Australians are the most 

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respectful I've seen. 
But even in America, where 

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they're a little more aggressive
at times, it's like people in 

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general, but even there, dude, 
like when they see me running, 

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it looks like, it feels like 
Rocky when I'm in America 

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because they, a lot of Americans
have watched me lose this 

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weight. 
So they're like when I'm running

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now, like if I'm, they're just 
like go Jelly. 

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Like they're just like, go big 
dog. 

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Nobody's like trying to get a 
pitcher. 

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Yeah. 
Like everybody's just like, more

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like. 
Have you, have you become now? 

447
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,440
Because with the running 
everybody, as soon as I start 

448
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,560
running, they become an expert 
pretty quick. 

449
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,320
Do you? 
Are you now that annoying guy to

450
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,440
your friends that aren't 
runners? 

451
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,120
Are you trying to convert 
everybody to running? 

452
00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:06,920
No, no, man, I know everything 
because I know I know nothing. 

453
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,880
You know what I mean? 
That's for sure. 

454
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,760
That's where I live in life in 
general. 

455
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,240
Like I'm more of a sponge. 
Like we have a guy around us 

456
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,600
that runs more than all of us 
and he has a running guy. 

457
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,280
So I trust everything they say. 
But dude, I, I hurt my knee the 

458
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,800
other day. 
I'm having to take over 2 weeks 

459
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,520
off right now for the first time
since I started. 

460
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,520
It's killing me. 
It's killing me. 

461
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,040
But it's because I was striking 
my foot wrong, you know what I 

462
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,360
mean? 
I just ran too many days in a 

463
00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:31,120
row running that foot wrong and 
then my knee was hurting. 

464
00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:32,880
It ended up in my hip. 
You know, it goes just stuff I'm

465
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,120
learning. 
But it's but yeah, man. 

466
00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,640
What shoes are you running? 
I'm running, so I'm I'm in my 

467
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,960
Brooks now. 
I've been rocking my Brooks. 

468
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,400
These are the first. 
I don't know what model these 

469
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,520
are. 
I've just tried them, but I was 

470
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,240
in the the I think these are the
seventeens, but the ghost Max 

471
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,800
sixteens is probably what I've 
rocked the entire time. 

472
00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:52,320
If I'm trailing, I'm doing my 
shout out to my homie again, Cam

473
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,680
speed lens, You know what I 
mean? 

474
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,840
Because they'll shoot them to me
and they're just so good. 

475
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,160
I've always loved Hokas. 
It's because I'm a bigger dude 

476
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,720
and like always tell other 
fatties like if you're a bigger 

477
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,840
dude, you know what I mean? 
Or a bigger woman. 

478
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,200
Like them Hokas are going to 
give you all the support you 

479
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,440
really want. 
But you know what we've been 

480
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,400
really geeked out on and I've 
been saying it wrong. 

481
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,920
I say ASICS. 
Y'all say ASICS? 

482
00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,120
I like it. 
You said how would be like. 

483
00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:16,200
Yeah, tomato. 
Tomato. 

484
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,880
Yeah, exactly. 
And but the ASICS, I forget the 

485
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,320
the ones were, they're not the 
Nemesis, but the Keanos. 

486
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,200
Yeah, I'm doing. 
I like those, man. 

487
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,520
I really dig those too. 
What are you running in? 

488
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:30,560
Are you sponsored by a bunch of 
stuff? 

489
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,320
Right, I'm sure. 
Yeah, we run Solomon. 

490
00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:34,080
Yeah, most of us. 
I run in whatever shoes people 

491
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,880
give me for free. 
Yeah. 

492
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,280
He, he's, he's done a lot better
out of this running podcast than

493
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,320
I have put it away. 
In the variety of shoes I've 

494
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,720
got, because musically you are, 
you're a hybrid. 

495
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,240
Like you can do, you do country,
you do rap, you do you you, you 

496
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,280
kind of cross pollinate, right? 
How much do you know about high 

497
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,800
rocks? 
You never heard of high rocks? 

498
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,760
Oh, this is a moment for us, 
right? 

499
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,840
So high rocks is kind of high 
rocks is what's taking the gym 

500
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:11,200
Bros to the running world. 
It's their gateway drug from 

501
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,080
lifting weights and getting the 
beach muscles into running. 

502
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,080
So it's an event that I think 
came out of Europe somewhere. 

503
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,040
It might be German German. 
And basically there's a whole 

504
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,320
bunch of like athletic 
disciplines like war ball throws

505
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,520
and rowing machines and stuff, 
but in between each exercise you

506
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,440
run one kilometre. 
Oh wow, yeah, that's fine. 

507
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,320
It's. 
Kind of like, you know, 

508
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:32,840
CrossFit. 
Yeah, for sure. 

509
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,080
Like it's CrossFit, but a lot 
more running involved. 

510
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,000
Yeah. 
And the exercises, I suppose 

511
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,000
aren't as technical, you know, 
it's not like the Super 

512
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,440
heavyweights rowing and that 
type of. 

513
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,120
Thing I think that might be 
people just getting more 

514
00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:46,960
involved in like being overall 
athletes. 

515
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,880
I say this all the time, 
Fighters, if you've ever met 

516
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,040
fighters, really good American 
football players, like 

517
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,040
especially the ones that aren't 
on the line in the front, the 

518
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,560
bigger guys, the burlicky guys, 
but the ones that have running 

519
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,800
positions, but especially the 
best fighters in the world are 

520
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,080
doing those kind of workouts 
anyway. 

521
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,080
They're doing those hit styles 
and then adding in long running 

522
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,920
because it's just you. 
There's only one way to build 

523
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,000
that lung, man, You know what I 
mean? 

524
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,880
Like you can wrestle it. 
You build the fatigue of the 

525
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,600
muscles that way and a lot of 
lungs there. 

526
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,360
But like if you really like, if 
you ask Floyd Mayweather, but 

527
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:21,040
he's a boxer, of course, to this
day. 

528
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,400
What made Floyd great. 
He will tell you the road work. 

529
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,840
Floyd will say all that other 
stuff. 

530
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,360
No, but he's like, what really 
did it for me was Floyd. 

531
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:32,000
I don't know if people noticed 
Floyd did 8 to 15 miles a day in

532
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,960
training camp. 
And he never got hit, too. 

533
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,920
Listen man, you start talking 
about. 

534
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,200
That's real. 
Miles, you start talking about 

535
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,400
80 miles a week, you I mean, 
that's real. 

536
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,920
That's mileage like by ultra 
marathon people like marathon 

537
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,240
people mileage like that. 
And Floyd would go into camp 

538
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,520
doing 7 to 15 a day. 
Do you? 

539
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:53,920
You talked about you talk, 
you've been a What I love about 

540
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,160
you is that the openness with 
which you talk about what life 

541
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,640
was before all this. 
Do you ever worry that you're 

542
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,000
replacing your running addiction
like just another addiction for 

543
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,400
you? 
Yeah, no, for sure. 

544
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,240
But it was probably the food, 
right? 

545
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,400
Became the running. 
But I think it's deeper than 

546
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,240
running for me. 
Is that my addiction's not 

547
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,760
running. 
I realised that when I tore my 

548
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,680
meniscus and couldn't run for 
two weeks, was like, my 

549
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,120
addiction is just feeling good 
now because I spent so many 

550
00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:24,600
years feeling bad, you know what
I mean? 

551
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,040
So now it's like my addiction is
sometimes I'll even take my fast

552
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,800
too far. 
Are you fast? 

553
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,560
Yeah, yeah, 'cause I'll be 
feeling so good in a fast, like 

554
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,600
I'll go into a 24 hour fast and 
be at the 24 and be like, I 

555
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,000
might as well knock 36. 
I'm here. 

556
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,520
I feel great, You know what I 
mean? 

557
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,000
You know, like I'm, you know 
what I'm saying? 

558
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,800
Like I'm chasing that high to a 
degree of like just knowing how 

559
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,800
the bodies, but I'm just so 
fascinated with how my body's 

560
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,440
like recompositioning itself and
like. 

561
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,840
Yeah. 
How do you, how do you find like

562
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,720
being a father as well, like 
with the kids? 

563
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,400
Do you find now that you've 
improved yourself or you've 

564
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,520
found a healthier way and you're
chasing that high? 

565
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,600
Oh, dude, I just like I can be a
good present father. 

566
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,320
Like I got a nine year old that 
I can go out and throw football 

567
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,160
with for an hour, hour and a 
half. 

568
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,400
And it not like hurt my lower 
back just because I'm fat and 

569
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,360
old, but not because I'm like 
super fat. 

570
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:17,280
Like, you know, I used to be 
able to. 

571
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,800
I couldn't throw. 
I'd have to sit in a chair or 

572
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,280
something like pitch balls at 
them. 

573
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,280
Like you know, it was horrible, 
you know what I mean? 

574
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,800
Like do y'all do a lot of drug 
addiction out here or more 

575
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,680
alcoholism right? 
It's a big drinking culture in 

576
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,040
this country. 
Yeah, big party culture back 

577
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,560
home too, but like there's a 
there's like that drug addict 

578
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,960
mindset of, and I never realised
this, but they say that the 

579
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:45,160
family will by default cater to 
an addict because it fills a 

580
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,280
void in a family system. 
So they have to work around it. 

581
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,280
So like anytime somebody has an 
addiction or an even an ailment 

582
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,520
in a family, the rest of the 
family has to kind of find their

583
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,680
way around it. 
And I didn't realise that my 

584
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,280
food addiction had done that to 
my family. 

585
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,880
Like we were having to think 
about, you know, how much energy

586
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,680
I had to go do stuff. 
Could I do this? 

587
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,200
Could I do that? 
Could I fit in this? 

588
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,720
Could I fit in that, you know 
what I mean? 

589
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,640
Like all these variables that my
entire family was having to I 

590
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,160
was imprisoning my family to 
making decisions around on my 

591
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,320
behalf. 
Because of. 

592
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,680
Because of my weight, because I 
was because of my obesity. 

593
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,440
So to get out of that and be 
able to be like, now I can go 

594
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,520
like we, I rented the trampoline
park for my sons. 

595
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,960
They play flag, foot flag 
American football where you grab

596
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,520
the flag instead of tackle. 
And I took him to the trampoline

597
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,040
park and I could jump with him 
all night. 

598
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,640
You know what I mean? 
And it was cool because I was 

599
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,480
the first time I was not the dad
sitting out that couldn't do it,

600
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,800
You know, it's. 
An amazing feeling. 

601
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,400
It's it's why we all run. 
If it doesn't matter what level 

602
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,560
you're running at or who you 
are, that's why we all run, 

603
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,120
right? 
This feels bloody good. 

604
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,160
Feels good. 
What's it like compared to like 

605
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,440
you know, you're out on stage. 
What's the music and being out 

606
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,040
on stage like compared to 
running? 

607
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,320
How do they which one? 
Which one? 

608
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,560
Like really gets you goat now 
it's both the same. 

609
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,360
Are we going to get a shoe 
tattoo somewhere? 

610
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:07,920
I'll be honest, I don't. 
I've never said this publicly, 

611
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,120
but it's not even close. 
It's the stage. 

612
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,960
It's not not even comparable. 
It's not even pretending to be a

613
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,080
bull. 
You know what I'm saying? 

614
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,440
It's like. 
It was a hopeful question. 

615
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,480
But it's like, dude, that 
feeling is man, it's magical in 

616
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,520
your world. 
It's like the feeling of when 

617
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,880
you accomplish something like 
and you've, you've had that same

618
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,000
feeling in your career. 
You know what I mean? 

619
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,480
Well, once if I mean as an 
athlete and the people say it 

620
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,040
like once you've we never get 
back that feeling of winning 

621
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,560
races. 
There's nothing like now in 

622
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,480
life, you know, beyond, beyond 
that high performance of 

623
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,560
Olympics or whatever it is. 
There's nothing. 

624
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,360
It's hard to find now what's 
what so. 

625
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,360
I think that might have been, I 
think that might be our signal 

626
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:59,920
to say you got to go on stage, 
you got to go to a show. 

627
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,440
Yeah, we'll wrap things up, 
Jelly Roll. 

628
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,800
This not. 
Done. 

629
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,680
I've been talking too. 
Much I'm the one that came here.

630
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:09,560
We came to talk to you. 
Though back in America we do 

631
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,760
long form podcasts. 
Yeah, so I have this horrible 

632
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,400
habit now of sitting down with 
people to do interviews and just

633
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,520
talking like we're going to be 
here for three hours, like it's 

634
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,880
a friendly chat. 
It's the best form. 

635
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,600
It's the best way to get. 
Just a friendly chin wag. 

636
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,240
Chin wag very good. 
Way very good the Aussie slang 

637
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,160
going. 
Well, Jelly is. 

638
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,440
It right? 
I'm trying. 

639
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,240
I'm trying man. 
Do you do you go for a trot 

640
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,840
instead of a run? 
Go for a trot. 

641
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,240
Go for a trot. 
I'm learning. 

642
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,840
I'm learning some stuff, man. 
I like the chin wag. 

643
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,400
Chin wag makes it. 
Chin wag's good Jelly. 

644
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,800
Honestly, this is Courtney can 
now accept that this is real. 

645
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,040
The whole drive up here is like,
I don't think this is gonna 

646
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,120
happen. 
No, stop the whole drive. 

647
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,160
Like I've been around sport my 
whole life and like really high 

648
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,200
end sport and this was, you 
know, today was exciting. 

649
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,840
But we just we, we the fact 
you're part of. 

650
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,800
The running world our. 
Running World. 

651
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,280
Thanks all for accepting me dude
and accepting the Clydesdales. 

652
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,240
The Clydesdales. 
Sent all the clads, so they 

653
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,000
might not be clads nails if you 
accept. 

654
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,000
We need you to barrack. 
We need more marathons. 

655
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,960
Yeah, to have a Clydesdale 
class. 

656
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,560
I'm telling you, I'd have to. 
I would. 

657
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,080
I mean, I'm, I'm obviously a 
Classdale. 

658
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,320
I'm 280 right now, right? 
I started at 5:40. 

659
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Yeah, but I got like 25 lbs of 
loose skin is what the surgeon 

660
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,160
thinks. 
So they can just detect, stitch 

661
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,560
that off, take it off 
eventually. 

662
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,840
Yeah, I'm gonna eventually have 
to go under the because it's 

663
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,840
like mad messy under here right 
now. 

664
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,120
It's it's like weird. 
I'm in the mirror all the time. 

665
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,720
Like look at this, you know what
I'm saying? 

666
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,080
It's like it's it's wild, dude. 
It's crazy. 

667
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,840
Your absolute pleasure. 
Thank you. 

668
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,680
Congratulations on everything. 
Jelly. 

669
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,560
Amazing. 
Amazing. 

670
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,280
Thanks so much man. 
Have fun out there. 

671
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,280
Thank you, man. 
Thanks for coming to Hangman. 

672
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,480
Enjoy pleasure. 
Can we get a quick steal? 

673
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,240
Yeah. 
Mention a lot, not a. 

674
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,360
Fake thing. 
I'm like legitimately in my bed 

675
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,320
while I'm going to go home. 
Whatever team I pledge to, I 

676
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,080
will be a fucking fan of theirs 
for the rest of my life. 

677
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,600
Brisbane life. 
I will watch. 

678
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,680
Lucky Neil is his name. 
If you mentioned Lucky Neil, 

679
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,000
they'll lose their mind. 
Lucky Neil. 

680
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,560
Lucky Neil.
