Hopefully. What are you getting done?
We're doing a tour tab. I think the tour has decided
that we want to do a yes Sir, no, no problem at all.
We're going to do the kangaroo crossing side.
No you're not. That's so fucking cool.
Yeah, we're going to do the kangaroo crossing.
Sound like the crossing signs y'all have on the side.
We think it's cool, man. That's awesome.
Where are you getting it done? I'm going to do my legs.
So I used to do all my tour tattoos, like this is my quaka
which I got 7 years ago. I never thought I would have
ever been able to come to Australia when I got this quaka
tattooed. I got it because I never thought
I'd see a quaka. So it's a really big.
Deal. Have you seen one yet?
Dude are we pod we don't want? Yeah.
No, we're gone. OK.
Good dude, I have been hanging out with quakas.
Oh, really? It's been crazy.
Are you going to Rottnest? You tell them a pod, they're
just sorry this is. That's all good man are.
You. Walls are thin, baby.
Are you going to Rottnest? Sorry, so sorry.
Are you going to the home of the Quackers while?
You you know what, dude, I hate to be this guy.
I I was going to come here if they, if the government would
have allowed me to at some point, just to go to Rottnest
Island and see the Quackers. Yeah, but what's the name of the
wildlife? Because we deserve to give them
a proper shout out. I'll go get the real information
right now. Yeah.
Thank you for crossing in front of the camera.
So. So.
Fucked down the hall, right? They suck, right?
Yeah, yeah, they deserve a proper shout out.
So these people brought quackers.
To you here. Yes dude, they brought just not
just quakas. They brought 2 quakas, a baby
quaka that I got to name and feed, bottle feed and they gave.
They brought a koala. What else did they bring?
They brought some lizards. They brought lizards.
No dude, they brought a Tasmanian devil.
Feisty. At least from Australia, it must
be from Australia Zoo has to be right.
From up the M1 Navy. I mean, quackers aren't
Queensland, where we are the state we are in at the.
Moment no, no, no. But this is a part of a
programme that they have all across Australia to like
populate quackers. I love that he's educating us on
our wildlife. Yeah, this is crazy, right?
You know what's cool? They're doing it with koalas
too. We don't need more koalas.
Now you need no no no, no, no, no they're they're getting
endangered. You do not have heaps of koalas
y'all this is sad news. You also tune into this, you
also tune the the disrespect you have from your wildlife you've.
Been listening. To ABCS, yeah, I'm telling you,
I'm talking to the locals that they're scared.
They're like the only known predator of the koala is man.
They're chopping down all their trees.
Yeah, yeah, they're. They're they're dying, man.
So they're like they're trying to make sure they're they're
like a big on preserved. They're actually more worried
about the koalas right now than they are the koacas.
And obviously Kangaroos are like.
We got too many of. Those that you have too many of
those that's real Kangaroos are y'all's white tailed deer.
So I'm from the South back in America.
I'm from Tennessee, which is what they call the South if
y'all heard of it. And we famously hunt whitetail
deer four months a year, three months a year because if we
didn't they would just run us completely over.
And that's what is happening with Kangaroos here.
If I. Heard.
Yeah, no, I heard they sell the meat.
Yeah, you buy kangaroo burgers at most stores.
You are to to move away from the wildlife for a moment.
Sorry. Sorry I came in so excited.
Yeah. No, that's OK.
But we are. We can.
Talk about the AFL too. I know, I know a little bit, a
little bit about the AFL. We are in the home with the
Brisbane Lions right now, sorry. This is good.
No, no, this is. Good.
So see Liam here commentates. No way.
Commentates the AFL. If you want to know about AFL,
he's a man I. Want to a commentator?
Do you want to talk about this on the pot or something else I
don't want to take? Over your pot but.
I love that AFL. Dude, what do you like about it?
So I just got into footy. Obviously I'm not going to act
like I'm a long time fan, but when I got here I immediately
tuned into footy. Y'all have the Fox Footy Channel
and dude it plays footy classics on 24 hours a day, no
commercials. It is the best channel in sports
history of every country I've ever been to and I'm up all
night and day watching. Footy Have you got a team yet?
No, this is. The thing we love to do to
Australian visitors when when any international person comes
here, all the football teams climb over one another to hand
them a jumper and make them an international supporter of the
team. So have you got 1 yet?
No, well, listen, I have a friend in Sydney that is he's
one of the they do YouTube, they're called the Fairburn
brothers, yes, and they are trying to draught me to be an
Adelaide Crows fan. Listen, listen, the first game I
ever watched was a the first was a 2001.
It was a Geelong game. So I remember, you know, I'm a
little bit there but I think I don't want to be there.
It feels like it would be low hanging fruit to be a Lions fan
in light of them having their second premiership in a row,
right? You're going to Adelaide next
though. What I like about the possibly
being a Crows fan and I'm I'm open for negotiations.
Y'all, I'm a whore here. Anybody can pitch at me.
Please sell me on your best team and I'll make a public
announcement before I leave Australia because I'm just into
the sport. But what I like about the
Adelaide Crows is from what I understand, they were relatively
horrible franchise for a while and now they're doing a little
better. Like just had their first little
playoff run, which is a big deal for them.
Got beat pretty early, but it was a big deal.
I'm back home in the American Football League.
I'm a fan of what they call the Tennessee.
Titans and they're terrible. We're the second worst team in
the National Football. League, they're terrible.
So I kind of want to cheer for a bad team, you know what I'm
saying? Like instinctively not a bad.
One can I, can I, can I give you a?
I'll present an alternative based on what you've just said.
Adelaide aren't that bad. They're not as bad as the Titans
and given your love of Quackers, the West Coast Eagles, which are
in Perth, a Perth based team which is the city just from
Rottnest, they're awful and they and they and they've been awful
for a while now. So if you wanted to find a team
that maybe matched the Titans, I would suggest the West Coast
Eagles, but I'll leave it up. To you listen, I want to support
them 'cause they feel like they need the support the most
possibly. I struggled with the, the name
Eagles as an American Football League fan like I love there's a
couple of things y'all have here like the Lions.
I struggled with that too. But I'm, I love Detroit as a
city, but I, I love Philadelphia as a city too, obviously.
But I mean the Eagles, you know, championship.
There's a rugby league team down the road called the Gold Coast
Titans. We got a Titan team here, it's a
rugby. Team, it's a rugby.
Union, I'll be honest man, hot take and I might get in trouble
on your podcast for saying this, but once you've watched
Australian football, it's hard to watch rugby again, right?
A little bit. Am I wrong?
You know what I'm saying? It's just, it's just a hot.
Tonight, it's a great take because rugby league fans are
gonna be watching this, are gonna be, they're gonna be
throwing, they're gonna hate they're.
Gonna be good? No.
Please don't judge my music. My music's still good, I swear.
Please. So where we are right now, like
Brizzy, both teams won NRL, so rugby team Brisbane, yeah.
This is the home and football's. Sign the.
Foot at the moment, oh, they're just swinging cock around here.
Yeah, that's pretty much sure. Yeah.
We've got to ask the question though, because we are literally
about two hours from you performing to a sold out crowd
here in Brisbane. First Australian show.
Why did you say yes to talking to a running podcast?
Oh dude, we haven't got there yet because I've made y'all talk
about all my other Australian things, but running is where I
started my weight loss journey. I'm so back in America.
I was what you would call peak American fat almost.
I mean, I was 550 lbs. I mean, I was like the ones they
have on TV, have those shows made it here?
My £600 life, the 3000 LB sisters, all that stuff.
So I was that fat. And what I have learned is now
I'm like, you know, right below normal fat in America almost.
But I'm still peak Australian fat, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know what I mean? So it's so funny to be on a
running podcast. Like I'm here to share my weight
loss journey and most Australians are like God mate,
what do you look like first? 540, that's about 2:40.
I would have been all over you right now.
Is that the best way to put it? So, OK, so that explained
because I'll be honest, we were, can I give you context on what
we were doing when we got the phone call about this today,
Courtney and I Courtney is by the way, is a two time Olympian
team wins the 2. Olympic Games.
Red Bull triathlete. Amazing, amazing guy.
We were sitting down recording an interview with a guy called
Matt Hauser, who is an Australian triathlete who
recently won the World Championships, right?
And that for us was an amazing moment.
We're sitting there, first time an Aussie in 20 years has won
the world championship. Good.
And we're sitting there talking to him going, this is amazing.
We're talking to this guy at the peak of world sport.
And then I missed a bunch of phone calls and then I had a
message saying you guys have got some time with Jelly.
We were just like, what is happening?
What is life? So this is exciting for us.
This is cool, man. This is very cool.
No, it was, I was super into it when they said it was about
running and I was familiar with you through some Red Bull stuff
anyways, yeah, it was super cool.
So then I was like, this is dope, you know what I mean?
I was all in and running was such a key part of it is right
now. Even the culture of what we do
on tour, you know what I mean? Like I'd probably say five of
our guys got up and did three to 10 miles apiece today.
We were talking to JB before for sure.
Yeah, he's in now. He's like really created a
culture which had you met us on tour five years ago, that would
have been more like cocaine and alcohol and, you know, it would
have been a totally different culture.
But now we're like all get. How did you change that?
Like how do you go from racking up lines and putting on the
shoes? Dude, I know this sounds cliche
and I don't know why I didn't see the forest for the trees in
the moment, but like, I was the problem, you know what I mean?
Like everybody was just following my lead.
If I was dragging us to bars till 3:00 or 4:00 in the
morning, everybody was following me to a bar.
And in my mind, and this is the alcoholic mind is I was
following the party to the bar. I was a participant in this
whole thing. I you know what I mean?
No, I was the problem because all of a sudden when I quit
drinking it, just how much of the culture disappeared around
me in general. And then when I started shooting
basketball, people started coming in and shooting
basketball. And then lucky for me, my
nutritionist got hired because food is the most important
component to all this, right? I think we can all agree is it's
funny, I talked to now, I talked to other fellow fatties and I'm
trying to help them early in their journey.
You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, and they're like,
they want to post all their little workouts.
And I'm like, look, man, that's cool.
But if you're going home and eating McDonald's, dude, it's
like, you know what I mean? Like, post your meal.
You want to impress me? Show me what you're actually
eating. Starts and finishes the fridge
rock. But he's like, he's a running
guy, my nutritionist. So he was like, you know, let's
get into running. And a couple of comedians back
home, a guy named Bert Kreischer and Tom Segura did this thing
called the Two Bears 5K. And if you've ever heard, he
knows them. But have you ever heard of these
guys? Yeah, I love the they're and
Tom. Tom's the goat, but they're
absolute degenerates. So I was like, if these two
degenerates are going to do a 5 Ki mean, that means my kind is
welcome here, you know? And it kind of opened the floor
for running for us. And I think almost in American
history, we've probably had or are fixing to have the biggest
5K ever. We this is how we come out.
I saw you create the Jelly roll losers run club and that was
probably since we've been to chatting about running together.
That was like the highlight. I was like, because my whole
life has been, you know, elite endurance sports.
And like, when I'm at school, like, we're the nerdy runners,
right? And now everyone, everyone wants
to run. It's just like going huge.
So Someone Like You, like, I suppose Someone Like You putting
us on a pedestal and like showing everyone else running.
That has been absolutely massive for us.
And then I saw you on with Ken Haynes.
So what I wanted to do when we first reached out?
Wanted to take here. I saw you rocking up a mountain
with Cam and I'm like, I want to do that for Jelly.
Dude, how far is it from here? Well, we can do anywhere, but I
wanted to take you. Running.
Is there one? Is there a trail around here?
We. Yeah.
Now no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm like, but I'm here for two days because we got the Gold
Coast tomorrow, right? Or Suncoast.
Sunny. Sunny.
Coast, Sunny Coast. We're we're down this way, yeah,
man, but. You can do Mad Cootha, yeah.
We'll chat after. Man, I would love to take you
because like you know, there's America's Got amazing places to
run, but Australia, like you love the animals here.
We've got some unique terrain. Like I was running up the back
of the Gold Coast the other day doing a little bit of rocking
like you were doing with Cam. And we're laughing because I've
been having a little bit of trouble with my calves.
And as I'm walking up this and I've got 10K on my back, which
for me is like pretty decent. And there's this little whip
snake just. And I'm jumped, man.
I've jumped. And like, you know, it's all the
other things that come around and my, and then my calves go on
again. All I want to do is run.
All I want to do is run for fitness.
And that, you know, these are the things we'll face.
But I wanted to show you the Australian Bush.
I'll show you the Australian Bush.
Yeah. I'd love this.
Yeah. OK, we're getting the thumbs up
off it. The zoo is called Big Pineapple.
Yeah, it's up towards the Sunny Coast.
So it's it's, yeah. Yeah, like ours, the guys that
are being nice. So Jelly, you talk about your
size, right? And I want to introduce you to
this concept that exists in Australia next weekend.
A bit further up from where you're playing your next gigs on
the Sunny Coast is a little town called Noosa.
Noosa Triathlon's happening and it's the most second biggest
triathlon in the world. And they have a category called
the Clydesdale category, which is exclusively for guys over 100
kilos really. Yeah, 100 kilos is like 220 lbs,
right? Yeah, two 220 lbs.
So it's a, it's a, it's a category that you enter that's.
Me I'm a class. You're a Clydesdale.
I'm a Clydesdale. So what?
Because it's this. There's in this world that we
live in, and Courtney and I talk about this bit.
There's cancel culture and everybody wants to complain.
You've got to be politically correct about everything.
Oh, that's happening here too. Oh yeah.
Oh dude that stuff sucks man, don't fall for it so.
It's all a joke. This is what we love about the
Clydesdale thing, is that here is a world where they go if
you're a big guy or a big one because there's a girls category
too. We want you to be proud of the
fact that you're getting out there and doing a triathlon at
that weight and we are trying to push for marathons to start
including the 100K plus category so you can still go out and win
your category even if you wanted the bigger guys bigger.
Girls, No, dude, it's like, I think it's like, I'm also really
big and this has been something I fight with back home about
cancer cultures. I'm just big on calling it what
it is anyways. And dude, when you struggle with
obesity the way I did, the joke is when I call somebody fat, I
don't mean it in a mean way. I just mean it in the most
honest way that I wish more people would have been with me.
And I'm also going to tell you something.
You've never seen a fat person and told me you never were the
first person that acknowledged it for them.
That's for sure. You know what I'm saying?
It's just always, you know, it's never like a news like how dare,
no way. You know what I'm saying?
It's just it's it's like how we package it out of love.
And I think it's if we can create spaces where these like
people like me feel, you letting me on your running podcast as a
dude my size makes me feel accepted.
You know what I mean? Because like Cam being my
friend, like Cam reaching out to be my boy.
Send me this clip because it how many Cam?
I tell them it's all the time, but I want to see it in front of
the world. I tell them personally that
means so much to me. Like Cam could have the idea
that a guy who's literally at 60 years old or however Cam is 50
some years old was just in the top 20 of the Moab, you know
what I mean? Last year.
A guy like that still looks at a guy that's like huffing and
puffing up a hill and it's like I'll walk with you.
My I think I told you. I don't know if I told you seen
this story, but I'll tell you here is the first five Ki ever
did. I was 470 lbs.
It took me like an hour and 15 minutes to walk hour and 25
minutes to walk. And it was the big two bears 5K
and I went from like 520 to 470 to even be able to walk it.
Like when I first started training for it.
I could walk like maybe a mile at best and it was like a 36
minute mile. I mean, I mean I was a slug and
Cam walked that whole, he walked it with me.
That's who Cam is as a human. We're talking about one of the
baddest dudes in the world. He could have ran that thing
backwards 7 times, you know what I mean?
Like with his eyes closed. And he ran it that morning with
his son, you know what I'm saying?
I think Truitt showed up in jeans or something, just busted
it out for the boys and then him and Philip Franklin Lee and then
walked it with me. Literally the whole 3 and
something miles like that was the stuff that encouraged me.
That's when I looked at cameras like I'm going to run Mount
Piska with you one day. And I haven't ran it with him
yet, but we've walked it, you know what I'm saying?
And I only stopped once for a little, little like a like a
minute break. But my goal is to jog it with
him when I go back on tour this next year.
Dude would love to do it in Australia.
That's amazing. What goes through your head when
you're running? Do you listen to music?
Like are you? Do you need noise to cancel
stuff out? You let the voices in?
What are you thinking? Got to hear it, got to fight it.
That's what got me into running was the concept of like this is
so inside baseball, but my life has become a production by light
of been light of success. And it's weird.
It's a new concept for like a super average white trash kid to
like, you know what I'm saying? Like all the sudden there's all
these moving parts to your life and doing everything requires
like 20 other people knowing what you're fixing to go do.
But in this small world of running, I could just like sneak
away and just do it, you know what I mean?
Like whether it's on the street or I just get into a little, I
know some people will hate me for this, but just my lifestyle.
I have to get on a treadmill and I get on that corner treadmill
and I can just, nothing matters but my thoughts.
And more than anything, I'm reminding myself as David Goggin
says, to beat that bitch out of me.
Like any little inner bitch in me, I'm just running like you
are. You are fucking being a bitch
right now. You know what I'm saying?
Like, and I do self assessment, like, you know, gratitudes is a
big thing for me now when I run, like it's a great way to really
like right after my run, I love to do my morning gratitudes.
I think about them on the run. So I'm kind of cooking them.
So when I come home to ride on their like fresh, fresh, you
know, like it's really cool. And I'll sometimes I'll even if
I didn't, if I left some inventory unchecked the night
before, I'll deal with it on the run the next morning too.
You know what I mean? Like if there was something I
left lingering it was like I don't know if I made peace with
how that went. The more than the next run.
I'll just deal with that demon first.
How do you go running like you're on tour like this and
obviously everyone's going to recognise you.
How do you go running out on the streets or you just on the
treadmill more? So dude, here's I'll tell you
fun stories about running for us.
It's like we've done it in the arena sometimes.
Like if it we can't get out during the day and find a way to
do it. Like, you know, most arenas are
a circle. So we'll just go up and just dog
it, you know what I'm saying? It's just fucking 60 laps around
the arena. We're just inside the arena.
You look at the straw and it's just just one big circle around
and you're like, and you didn't even go yeah, or, and you didn't
even go outside the arena and you just did it in the arena.
But sometimes we'll just run through the streets early in the
days, man. We don't really get bothered
much. Something I really think
especially even back in America, Australians are the most
respectful I've seen. But even in America, where
they're a little more aggressive at times, it's like people in
general, but even there, dude, like when they see me running,
it looks like, it feels like Rocky when I'm in America
because they, a lot of Americans have watched me lose this
weight. So they're like when I'm running
now, like if I'm, they're just like go Jelly.
Like they're just like, go big dog.
Nobody's like trying to get a pitcher.
Yeah. Like everybody's just like, more
like. Have you, have you become now?
Because with the running everybody, as soon as I start
running, they become an expert pretty quick.
Do you? Are you now that annoying guy to
your friends that aren't runners?
Are you trying to convert everybody to running?
No, no, man, I know everything because I know I know nothing.
You know what I mean? That's for sure.
That's where I live in life in general.
Like I'm more of a sponge. Like we have a guy around us
that runs more than all of us and he has a running guy.
So I trust everything they say. But dude, I, I hurt my knee the
other day. I'm having to take over 2 weeks
off right now for the first time since I started.
It's killing me. It's killing me.
But it's because I was striking my foot wrong, you know what I
mean? I just ran too many days in a
row running that foot wrong and then my knee was hurting.
It ended up in my hip. You know, it goes just stuff I'm
learning. But it's but yeah, man.
What shoes are you running? I'm running, so I'm I'm in my
Brooks now. I've been rocking my Brooks.
These are the first. I don't know what model these
are. I've just tried them, but I was
in the the I think these are the seventeens, but the ghost Max
sixteens is probably what I've rocked the entire time.
If I'm trailing, I'm doing my shout out to my homie again, Cam
speed lens, You know what I mean?
Because they'll shoot them to me and they're just so good.
I've always loved Hokas. It's because I'm a bigger dude
and like always tell other fatties like if you're a bigger
dude, you know what I mean? Or a bigger woman.
Like them Hokas are going to give you all the support you
really want. But you know what we've been
really geeked out on and I've been saying it wrong.
I say ASICS. Y'all say ASICS?
I like it. You said how would be like.
Yeah, tomato. Tomato.
Yeah, exactly. And but the ASICS, I forget the
the ones were, they're not the Nemesis, but the Keanos.
Yeah, I'm doing. I like those, man.
I really dig those too. What are you running in?
Are you sponsored by a bunch of stuff?
Right, I'm sure. Yeah, we run Solomon.
Yeah, most of us. I run in whatever shoes people
give me for free. Yeah.
He, he's, he's done a lot better out of this running podcast than
I have put it away. In the variety of shoes I've
got, because musically you are, you're a hybrid.
Like you can do, you do country, you do rap, you do you you, you
kind of cross pollinate, right? How much do you know about high
rocks? You never heard of high rocks?
Oh, this is a moment for us, right?
So high rocks is kind of high rocks is what's taking the gym
Bros to the running world. It's their gateway drug from
lifting weights and getting the beach muscles into running.
So it's an event that I think came out of Europe somewhere.
It might be German German. And basically there's a whole
bunch of like athletic disciplines like war ball throws
and rowing machines and stuff, but in between each exercise you
run one kilometre. Oh wow, yeah, that's fine.
It's. Kind of like, you know,
CrossFit. Yeah, for sure.
Like it's CrossFit, but a lot more running involved.
Yeah. And the exercises, I suppose
aren't as technical, you know, it's not like the Super
heavyweights rowing and that type of.
Thing I think that might be people just getting more
involved in like being overall athletes.
I say this all the time, Fighters, if you've ever met
fighters, really good American football players, like
especially the ones that aren't on the line in the front, the
bigger guys, the burlicky guys, but the ones that have running
positions, but especially the best fighters in the world are
doing those kind of workouts anyway.
They're doing those hit styles and then adding in long running
because it's just you. There's only one way to build
that lung, man, You know what I mean?
Like you can wrestle it. You build the fatigue of the
muscles that way and a lot of lungs there.
But like if you really like, if you ask Floyd Mayweather, but
he's a boxer, of course, to this day.
What made Floyd great. He will tell you the road work.
Floyd will say all that other stuff.
No, but he's like, what really did it for me was Floyd.
I don't know if people noticed Floyd did 8 to 15 miles a day in
training camp. And he never got hit, too.
Listen man, you start talking about.
That's real. Miles, you start talking about
80 miles a week, you I mean, that's real.
That's mileage like by ultra marathon people like marathon
people mileage like that. And Floyd would go into camp
doing 7 to 15 a day. Do you?
You talked about you talk, you've been a What I love about
you is that the openness with which you talk about what life
was before all this. Do you ever worry that you're
replacing your running addiction like just another addiction for
you? Yeah, no, for sure.
But it was probably the food, right?
Became the running. But I think it's deeper than
running for me. Is that my addiction's not
running. I realised that when I tore my
meniscus and couldn't run for two weeks, was like, my
addiction is just feeling good now because I spent so many
years feeling bad, you know what I mean?
So now it's like my addiction is sometimes I'll even take my fast
too far. Are you fast?
Yeah, yeah, 'cause I'll be feeling so good in a fast, like
I'll go into a 24 hour fast and be at the 24 and be like, I
might as well knock 36. I'm here.
I feel great, You know what I mean?
You know, like I'm, you know what I'm saying?
Like I'm chasing that high to a degree of like just knowing how
the bodies, but I'm just so fascinated with how my body's
like recompositioning itself and like.
Yeah. How do you, how do you find like
being a father as well, like with the kids?
Do you find now that you've improved yourself or you've
found a healthier way and you're chasing that high?
Oh, dude, I just like I can be a good present father.
Like I got a nine year old that I can go out and throw football
with for an hour, hour and a half.
And it not like hurt my lower back just because I'm fat and
old, but not because I'm like super fat.
Like, you know, I used to be able to.
I couldn't throw. I'd have to sit in a chair or
something like pitch balls at them.
Like you know, it was horrible, you know what I mean?
Like do y'all do a lot of drug addiction out here or more
alcoholism right? It's a big drinking culture in
this country. Yeah, big party culture back
home too, but like there's a there's like that drug addict
mindset of, and I never realised this, but they say that the
family will by default cater to an addict because it fills a
void in a family system. So they have to work around it.
So like anytime somebody has an addiction or an even an ailment
in a family, the rest of the family has to kind of find their
way around it. And I didn't realise that my
food addiction had done that to my family.
Like we were having to think about, you know, how much energy
I had to go do stuff. Could I do this?
Could I do that? Could I fit in this?
Could I fit in that, you know what I mean?
Like all these variables that my entire family was having to I
was imprisoning my family to making decisions around on my
behalf. Because of.
Because of my weight, because I was because of my obesity.
So to get out of that and be able to be like, now I can go
like we, I rented the trampoline park for my sons.
They play flag, foot flag American football where you grab
the flag instead of tackle. And I took him to the trampoline
park and I could jump with him all night.
You know what I mean? And it was cool because I was
the first time I was not the dad sitting out that couldn't do it,
You know, it's. An amazing feeling.
It's it's why we all run. If it doesn't matter what level
you're running at or who you are, that's why we all run,
right? This feels bloody good.
Feels good. What's it like compared to like
you know, you're out on stage. What's the music and being out
on stage like compared to running?
How do they which one? Which one?
Like really gets you goat now it's both the same.
Are we going to get a shoe tattoo somewhere?
I'll be honest, I don't. I've never said this publicly,
but it's not even close. It's the stage.
It's not not even comparable. It's not even pretending to be a
bull. You know what I'm saying?
It's like. It was a hopeful question.
But it's like, dude, that feeling is man, it's magical in
your world. It's like the feeling of when
you accomplish something like and you've, you've had that same
feeling in your career. You know what I mean?
Well, once if I mean as an athlete and the people say it
like once you've we never get back that feeling of winning
races. There's nothing like now in
life, you know, beyond, beyond that high performance of
Olympics or whatever it is. There's nothing.
It's hard to find now what's what so.
I think that might have been, I think that might be our signal
to say you got to go on stage, you got to go to a show.
Yeah, we'll wrap things up, Jelly Roll.
This not. Done.
I've been talking too. Much I'm the one that came here.
We came to talk to you. Though back in America we do
long form podcasts. Yeah, so I have this horrible
habit now of sitting down with people to do interviews and just
talking like we're going to be here for three hours, like it's
a friendly chat. It's the best form.
It's the best way to get. Just a friendly chin wag.
Chin wag very good. Way very good the Aussie slang
going. Well, Jelly is.
It right? I'm trying.
I'm trying man. Do you do you go for a trot
instead of a run? Go for a trot.
I'm learning.
I'm learning some stuff, man. I like the chin wag.
Chin wag makes it. Chin wag's good Jelly.
Honestly, this is Courtney can now accept that this is real.
The whole drive up here is like, I don't think this is gonna
happen. No, stop the whole drive.
Like I've been around sport my whole life and like really high
end sport and this was, you know, today was exciting.
But we just we, we the fact you're part of.
The running world our. Running World.
Thanks all for accepting me dude and accepting the Clydesdales.
The Clydesdales. Sent all the clads, so they
might not be clads nails if you accept.
We need you to barrack. We need more marathons.
Yeah, to have a Clydesdale class.
I'm telling you, I'd have to. I would.
I mean, I'm, I'm obviously a Classdale.
I'm 280 right now, right? I started at 5:40.
Yeah, but I got like 25 lbs of loose skin is what the surgeon
thinks. So they can just detect, stitch
that off, take it off eventually.
Yeah, I'm gonna eventually have to go under the because it's
like mad messy under here right now.
It's it's like weird. I'm in the mirror all the time.
Like look at this, you know what I'm saying?
It's like it's it's wild, dude. It's crazy.
Your absolute pleasure. Thank you.
Congratulations on everything. Jelly.
Amazing. Amazing.
Thanks so much man. Have fun out there.
Thank you, man. Thanks for coming to Hangman.
Enjoy pleasure. Can we get a quick steal?
Yeah. Mention a lot, not a.
Fake thing. I'm like legitimately in my bed
while I'm going to go home. Whatever team I pledge to, I
will be a fucking fan of theirs for the rest of my life.
Brisbane life. I will watch.
Lucky Neil is his name. If you mentioned Lucky Neil,
they'll lose their mind. Lucky Neil.