1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,360 EP20 In the beginning, we made it out of our teenage years. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,400 Courtney. 20 episodes. How you doing? 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,800 Mate, I am, I'm home, which is good. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,080 We're in person again after last week, but I just realised how 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,640 hard it is training in heat. So you know, I've had a little 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,520 bit of AI, was down in Forest Creek at the end of last year. 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,920 I got a little bit of, you know, mountain weather training. 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,640 Didn't really think too much of it at the time. 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:25,760 Come back to Queensland, it was hot. 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,680 I've just been in Japan for two weeks. 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,840 I ran in Kyoto last week. It was 0°. 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,800 Each morning I went out and ran. I was in a coat, no stress. 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,080 Got back here 8:00 AM. Run along the beach this 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,240 morning. Easy. 15 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,640 I think it was the hardest run I've done. 16 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,680 It's so in the past year right here. 17 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,040 It's so steamy on the coast at the moment and it's hot and 18 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,720 it's, I mean I'm in pro hours these days and I haven't run for 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,040 the last two days because it's too hot. 20 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,440 I don't, I don't blame you. It is it it, it takes that to 21 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,160 make you realise just how hard it is to train here and probably 22 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,200 why a lot of the elites don't train in in in this weather. 23 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,440 It's just too hot. It's too hot. 24 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,840 It is good to be back in person, though. 25 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,160 We had, we had an obviously last week's app. 26 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,880 You were in Japan. I was sitting here on the 27 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,720 Goldie. It's great to be back. 28 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,320 We've got some things cooking. There's some things cooking 29 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:13,240 right in the beginning. I can't say too much. 30 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,520 It's going. To be a big year mate, we. 31 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,920 Can't say much but suffice to say if you're on board the in 32 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,960 the beginning journey now. Stay on board this year. 33 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,560 There's plenty of stuff to come. If you want to bail at the end 34 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,520 of the year, fine, stay on board for this year. 35 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,560 There's some stuff on the way mate. 36 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,400 I'm going to get stuck straight into something that I found 37 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,200 really interesting. You know Iron Man? 38 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,240 Well, we won't talk about tattoos, but you know the cars 39 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,000 that drive around with Iron Man stickers on there. 40 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,160 Yeah. So we're talking Iron Man 41 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:43,200 triathlon here. Have you ever seen a 26.6 mile 42 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,040 sticker? Never. 43 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,360 Now have a listen to this. How? 44 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,520 You doing man this thing? Well I'll put it this way, we've 45 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,880 all travelled 26.2 miles in our life. 46 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,280 I just so happened to one do it on foot and to complete the 47 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,360 whole thing in a span of three to six hours. 48 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,560 My name is Pranay. Nice to meet you. 49 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,040 Got pulled over the other day because I had my marathon metal 50 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,600 in a resistance band hanging from my rearview mirror. 51 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,960 Cop said it would prevent me from being aware of my 52 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,360 surroundings. I said if we take them down 53 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,760 it'll prevent other people from being aware of my 54 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,560 accomplishments. Some other people must have seen 55 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,480 it hanging there too because I got honked at. 56 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,120 We both jumped out of our cars so fast I was decked in a full 57 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,280 tracksuit, challenged to do a 5K straight up. 58 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,800 Once I showed him the 26.2 sticker on my rear bumper, he 59 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,600 hopped back in his vehicle so fast I thought he saw a ghost. 60 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:34,120 I want people to look at my car and think, is that the amount of 61 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,960 miles he ran in a day or is that the amount of times he tells 62 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,280 people that's the amount of miles? 63 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,680 At my last job interview, the employer asked what I could 64 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,320 bring to the table if hired. I said one word, perseverance, 65 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,640 and in lieu of a resume I just left him with a 26.2 sticker and 66 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:53,320 a wing come my way out the door. Next week I'll be appointed CEO. 67 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:55,400 My wife Sock and he and I have a very. 68 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,040 We'll leave it there. This one reminded me of you at 69 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,120 work. And this is from our we. 70 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:01,920 We love him. Matt. 71 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,600 Matt's lines. Lion. 72 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,840 And what do you reckon is the 26? 73 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,560 This is obviously happening in America. 74 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,120 If he's taking the piss out of it, Yeah. 75 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,360 Do you think, can you see this coming to Australia? 76 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:15,880 We'd have to change it to 42. Points we'd have to change. 77 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,560 Yeah. Which is not as fun a sticker, I 78 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,440 don't think. No, I hope not. 79 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,640 And I don't think it would take off here. 80 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,040 I don't think the tall poppy syndrome that exists in 81 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,440 Australia would allow people who've run a marathon to get so 82 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,920 far ahead of themselves that they start adorning their cars 83 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:33,640 or their bodies with stickers or tattoos. 84 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,680 I I reckon they will, mate. No, surely not. 85 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,160 You How many cars have you seen driving around? 86 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,560 And probably not so much these days, but when Iron Man first 87 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,000 had its, you know, really took how many, how many tattoos? 88 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,320 Have Iron Man. I see a lot of Iron Man tattoos, 89 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,120 but I think, and I guess it's how you view the athletic 90 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,480 achievement and I'm about to, this might be hypocritical. 91 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,960 OK, I'm OK with you getting an Iron Man tattoo. 92 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,920 I'm OK with anybody that's completed an Iron Man getting 93 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:10,760 that famous tattoo. I don't think a marathon justify 94 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,280 is worthy of it. Oh. 95 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,040 I don't. It doesn't only because I put it 96 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:22,600 this way. If you want to walk, run a 97 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,800 marathon you can and you'll be done in six hours. 98 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:33,360 If you want to try and walk, run or dog paddle, freestyle or roll 99 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,800 your legs over through an Iron Man, that's a day that's that's 100 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,880 probably going to take you 24 hours if you try and do it that 101 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,600 way. And I think there's maybe more 102 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,880 on in my mind. I'm saying the line for me to 103 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,920 get a tattoo of. Is how long you've been out 104 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,600 there. It may I think it I'm figuring 105 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,040 this out on the. Fly if you ran 100 a hundred 106 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,160 kilometre or 100 mile run. Do you think then you can get 107 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:00,080 AI? Don't even know what brand it 108 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,760 is. Do you get an ultra trail? 109 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,040 What is it? UTMB sticker. 110 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,200 Let me let me flip this on you, OK? 111 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,200 Do you have the Olympic rings tattooed? 112 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,600 I do not, but I'm I'm not a tattoo guy. 113 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,920 Why do so it's not a consideration around should I 114 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,720 have the Olympic tattoo on me? I'm just. 115 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,040 I just don't want a. Tattoos don't like tattoos. 116 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,440 Why? What do you think of the Olympic 117 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,040 tattoo and that notion of when people go to the games, they 118 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,080 then get the rings? They're super proud they made 119 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,040 the Olympics. Good on them. 120 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,560 And if you like tattoos, go for it. 121 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,840 I mean, the reason I don't like this, I shouldn't say I don't 122 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:40,600 like tattoos. I mean, I love the look of 123 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,120 tattoos on sure, but they're not. 124 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,400 For you. They're not for me because I 125 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:50,560 just know throughout life what what I would have got when if I 126 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,960 was, if I was to get a tattoo, what I was going to get at 18. 127 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,560 Yeah. And it what that would be now I 128 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,480 would be thinking, what did I do? 129 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,000 You know what? I'm so I couldn't be more with 130 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,920 you because and do you want to? This is evidence that's proof to 131 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,920 the fact that I'm not a tattoo person either. 132 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:13,240 Because I imagine if you are a tattoo person who wants to get a 133 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,160 tattoo, you just go and get it. You figure out what you want and 134 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,280 then you just go and get it. I once toyed around with a 135 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:23,440 tattoo and like, so like drew it on in text her for like a day. 136 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,480 And then and then when people what's on your hand, I'm like, 137 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,600 Nah, I'm not, I can't be building answering the question 138 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,320 of what's on your hand. But I don't want people asking 139 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,920 me about it. It's just going to annoy me. 140 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,160 So I. Mean that's probably half the 141 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,240 reason a lot of I I would assume a lot of people get tattoos. 142 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,880 They want someone to ask them or if you're going to get a tattoo, 143 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:40,960 you want people to. Look at you, are you? 144 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,160 Are you saying that people with tattoos are boring people and 145 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,680 that don't have anything interesting to say? 146 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,160 It's a good conversation, but no, if you think about, you 147 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,560 know, this is me personally. I'm like, if what? 148 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,000 Hopefully I get to be 7080 years old mate. 149 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,720 What's that sound we're going to look like then? 150 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,920 Like I'm a guy rocking around. That is a question that we will 151 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,160 get to hopefully know the answer to in 20-30 years time when the 152 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,280 generation, the slave generation hits old age. 153 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,240 Correct, but to go back to this. It's a bit different. 154 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,720 A bumper sticker. No, no. 155 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,600 Well, I. I'm saying watch this space. 156 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,360 No, because this is a. Trend I can see taking on I I 157 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,880 can see people. I mean, it's just as much as 158 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,600 when you're proud and and you wear that medal, whether it's an 159 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,960 Iron Man medal, a marathon medal, whatever it is, and you 160 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,440 wear that around the day after, like you're proud of do it. 161 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:41,080 No, I like I know more for that. Do you still have do you have a 162 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:47,560 trophy Rd No. Do you have Because I, I mean, I 163 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,040 know you've got your shoe museum. 164 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,320 I've got your. Shoe Museum? 165 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,520 No, I have one Olympic suitcase. Yeah. 166 00:07:54,640 --> 00:08:01,000 And anything I've ever done to do is sport Olympic uniforms or 167 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,720 anything is in that suitcase. If it doesn't fit in that 168 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,480 suitcase, it, it doesn't get kept. 169 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,120 There's a bit of minimalism, right? 170 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:07,880 If it doesn't fit in that suitcase. 171 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,520 And how often do I open that suitcase, to be really honest, 172 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,400 after, you know, a couple of Olympics and this and this, 173 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,800 other medals and whatever's in there. 174 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,200 I don't know, the only times I've ever opened that suitcase 175 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:29,200 is kids school fancy dress. This is a case. 176 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,559 This is a case for hoarding hoarding stuff, right? 177 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,280 The only time I've ever opened that suitcase is to look for 178 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,480 fancy dress. I've got an Australian Jew if 179 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,280 you ever, If your kids ever need an Australian judo outfit, I've 180 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,400 got a Beijing Australian judo outfit that are flogged from 181 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:51,720 the, the draw in the apartment because I, I spent a night in 182 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,840 with the judo team in, in one of the, you know, one of the 183 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,560 apartments. So I thought this looks great. 184 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:58,840 No ones gonna, you know, they probably get 20 for their 185 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,600 competition. No one will notice this one. 186 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,000 I've got some hosed hogs. So do you ever want to have an 187 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,200 Australian Olympic runner there? I'm just imagining one of your 188 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,120 kids turning up at a school thing and like just rolling in 189 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,680 with the biggest swagger ever because they're like, this is 190 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:15,280 proper Olympic kit. So. 191 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,880 My kids never wanted to touch it though. 192 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,880 That's why I'm offering it. You know it's for hire. 193 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,600 So yeah, that's going back to the reason I asked. 194 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:29,280 Yep, is because this the notion of running and events and and 195 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,200 challenging yourself and all the rest of that. 196 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,680 I don't have any medals from and like I never compete at the 197 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:37,040 Olympics or one nurses or anything, but you get medals 198 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,640 when you finish races like the I've done some cultures, I've 199 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,000 participated participation medals. 200 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:47,240 I don't know where they are all right, because you, you see some 201 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,280 people in create incredible metal walls and they have these 202 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,360 awesome things, these racks and all that's. 203 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,800 Gonna make with all of these numbers so all the different 204 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,680 races because he travels to do each race right so every number 205 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:05,360 means so everyone's got their thing and I'm I'm like I'm 206 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,120 saying I'm all positive for this yeah everyday he can go into his 207 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,080 garage and and that all has meaning of where he's travelled 208 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,360 and where he's raced around the world or what events and 209 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:15,560 everything. That's a friend of mine. 210 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:17,280 But no, I wanted to ask you, did you? 211 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,680 So you talked about you don't keep those medals. 212 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,720 Yeah. But is there one from an event 213 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,560 that something you got from an event that sticks out and you're 214 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:27,680 like, that was that was sick. I I want to keep that. 215 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:30,400 Do you know what I do have? Yeah, I've got a I've got the 216 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:37,480 big wet pack or dry pack carry bag from Red Bull. 217 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,160 Defines the C Was it C to Summit? 218 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,320 Yeah, the big, the big thick grey silver one this yeah, which 219 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,840 is awesome. I'm. 220 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,520 Not sure if it was the C to summit year or the year before 221 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:49,760 which I can't remember the brand. 222 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,160 But the reason I I keep it a is because I use it because it's 223 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,480 great. So usability, a usability, but 224 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,200 also because, and to get back to your friend who has the bibs is 225 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,520 it's special to me because it's a race I did with my mate Ed 226 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:07,680 Yep, who's my best mate and we did this thing together. 227 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,680 And so that inevitably has memories for me and makes me 228 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:13,920 think back to those two days of the race. 229 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,080 OK, I don't know the medals. I don't really, I wouldn't. 230 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,160 I don't know if I'd have that same sort of feeling of a of a 231 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,240 medal necessarily. In fact, I've got the defiance 232 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:28,560 medal somewhere, but the bag is a much more valuable to me 233 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:30,360 memento of that race than the medal. 234 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,200 Well, I suppose when you see it all the time and can use it, it 235 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,000 also adds it adds failure. I mean, that was the the purpose 236 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,600 of those bags are used in the race, number one. 237 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,720 So they have a purpose. It's not just being produced for 238 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,280 the sake of it. And then you can use them, you 239 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,720 know, ongoing. And then the third part of that 240 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,040 conversation for anyone who runs events is quality matters. 241 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:55,160 So you can produce a lot of crap out of China and a lot of that 242 00:11:55,160 --> 00:12:00,800 will just get thrown out if you produce or can collab or do 243 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,400 something with a reputable, like really good quality. 244 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,600 It's not even about the brand, it's just about the quality. 245 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,840 People will keep it and use it. I Yes. 246 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,680 Just we're all No, no, I love this because now today that's. 247 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,800 Probably the last time you hear me say that, but it's 248 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,240 sustainability. Like you're not just going to 249 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,040 throw it out when you get home. I'm jumping straight in my mind 250 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,680 now. I'm thinking of events that I've 251 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:24,080 done where what T shirt size are you? 252 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,440 What visor or what you know drink but whatever I would 253 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,520 rather turn up to an Expo or bid pick up and get less. 254 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,760 But imagine getting if a race did a a collab with one of those 255 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:45,080 metal drink bottle manufacturers branded metal drink bottle that 256 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,600 you know. Has to be like, you know it. 257 00:12:47,680 --> 00:12:50,360 It's got to be like a Yeti or. Whatever it is, or. 258 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,440 Like a free green or whatever. It's got to be quality, yeah. 259 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:58,680 But that for me, I, it's something that I will continue 260 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:02,640 to use and it's tangible, but it also reinforces the quality of 261 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,560 the event. It also says this is a good 262 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:11,600 event that's collabing well with other brands and it's fed this 263 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,360 fed income like it's a, it's a proper serious event. 264 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,880 Look at the quality of the participation thing you. 265 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,000 Get. So would you then be willing to 266 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,320 pay more money to enter that event potentially? 267 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:27,080 In fact, you know what? I'd rather get that than a medal 268 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,400 at the end. And I know you can't wear a 269 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,240 drink bottle, but imagine if. Finish a finisher coffee. 270 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,120 Cup. Imagine if Imagine if you cross 271 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,280 the line at the City to Surf and instead of being handed a medal, 272 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,000 having a medal put around your neck, they handed you a Frank 273 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,520 Green coffee cup that said City to Surf 2025. 274 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,440 I'd much prefer that because then you get to show you're not 275 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,720 because then the next day when you go into the office, you show 276 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,680 them your frank coffee. You drink your coffee and every 277 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:56,040 day you remind people you're better than them because you run 278 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,240 the. Every event organisers going and 279 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:04,400 the medals, 90,000 medals cost us once each and and then these 280 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,240 guys are talking about coffee. Cups, the economics of it is not 281 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,160 my problem. I'm just saying how I feel. 282 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,560 OK, OK. Now you just said you would be 283 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:15,080 willing to wear a bumper sticker. 284 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,720 I'm going to if you did the distance, no, So we're talking 285 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,040 about bummer stickers. Now that's a good segue into 286 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,480 talking about distances because we've talked on this show a lot 287 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,400 about let's, we'll call them influencers who are doing 288 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,400 charitable runs across, you know, whether it's Australia, 289 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,760 whether it's across the UK or whatever's going. 290 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,840 On everyone knows who we're talking about. 291 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:41,000 Plenty of them. Now let's today give a little 292 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:41,920 bit of kudos. Oh, here we go. 293 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,680 To the original, the OG to the original, to the man and his 294 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,240 name. I like, I like this story of 295 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,920 tell the story and when we'll get to it. 296 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,600 Three At the start of one of the world's toughest ultra 297 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,520 marathons, a 540 mile trek from Sydney to Melbourne, a farmer 298 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,840 showed up dressed in overalls and galoshes over his boots. 299 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,920 When reporters asked who he was, he replied that his name was 300 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,320 Cliff Young. He was 61 years old and 301 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,600 sometimes he ran for three days straight chasing sheep on his 302 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,240 farm, so he was confident he could run the five days needed 303 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,680 to cover the distance. The other participants were 304 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,680 elite runners from all over the world sponsored by major sports 305 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,240 brands, most of whom were under 30. 306 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Runners typically ran for 18 hours and slept for six to cover 307 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,680 the distance. However, it was discovered the 308 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,880 day after the race started that Cliff Young had run through the 309 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:43,000 entire night without sleep. Five days, 15 hours and 4 310 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,240 minutes later, he finished first in this gruelling race, beating 311 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,560 his nearest competitor by 10 hours. 312 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,560 He admitted that he didn't even know runners were allowed to 313 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:57,000 sleep during the race. Cliff declined the $10,000 prize 314 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,320 money and shared it among the next 5 runners who finished 315 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,360 after him. He became an Australian national 316 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,840 hero and a true icon of ultra marathon running, exemplifying 317 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,720 how determination, perseverance and unconventional thinking can 318 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:18,200 overcome any physical challenge. That is, I've been sent that 319 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,320 reel, amazingly, the day before you sent it to me. 320 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,880 Yes, I three other people had sent me that reel. 321 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,080 Yeah, it just like it is. It's such a cool. 322 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,760 Story well, thanks to Ando for sharing that with with me but. 323 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,760 It's such a cool story. It's a cool. 324 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,800 Story about three things really stuck out to me in that go a 325 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:45,120 race, I guess competitors, you know, the test wasn't about a a 326 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,040 time or anything else. It was a race. 327 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,120 A race and he and how do you win? 328 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,080 He didn't sleep. You know, like you have to work 329 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,240 it out. It's not about, you know, 330 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,000 telling everyone doing all that. I thought about that it's a 331 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:05,920 race. OK, right #2 is I, I, I love the 332 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,200 idea at the end. He didn't he shared the money 333 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,160 with the athletes who rely. He was a sheep farmer. 334 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,280 Yeah, he just went in it, but there was athletes there by the 335 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,599 sounds of. And look, this story may have a 336 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:18,280 bit of Mayo, right? It's off the Internet. 337 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,760 But the idea of that just that was what made me nearly tear up 338 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,760 at the end. I'm like, how good this guy, 339 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,160 he's knows these guys at sea are obviously bread and butter and 340 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,120 he's gone. You know what? 341 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,720 I've just come along and don't know really what's going on, 342 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:32,600 mate. You guys. 343 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:33,720 Here you go. Yeah. 344 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,160 I like that that part of the story is true, by the way. 345 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,360 Is it Like, is it? There's no. 346 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,520 No much about. There's no, no, no, I did a bit 347 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,800 of research into this 'cause I know the, the shuffle, right, 348 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,480 General, the Cliffy shuffle, Cliffy shuffle. 349 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,240 I know the general story about Cliff Young, but I, and when I 350 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,360 saw this reel and you we were gonna talk about today, I did do 351 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:52,440 a bit of digging. Just quickly there, there is a 352 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,000 little bit of mail in that. He did sleep on the first night, 353 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,160 right? And what happened was he woke up 354 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,640 earlier than he'd planned. His alarm actually went off 355 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,320 earlier than that he planned it to, and that's when he kind of 356 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,480 went, oh, I've got a lead here, I'll just keep running. 357 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,840 That was kind of, and the old thing of he didn't do it in 358 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,280 gumboots. He turned up OK in gumboots and 359 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,720 someone gave him a pair of runners. 360 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,600 So he did the race in runners. But it's the mystique of it, 361 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,680 right? It's the SO. 362 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,520 Yeah, I mean he it's become a a fable, right? 363 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,520 It has it's. Grown like Chinese whispers have 364 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:29,600 grown it, but it's what I love is it's grown on authenticity of 365 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,200 there's no bullshit around this. It's a race he won a race other 366 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,240 people turned up because over distances. 367 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,800 So I don't know. This obviously doesn't happen 368 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,200 anymore of this particular one. Well, I I mean coast, coast to 369 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,840 cosy would be the closest thing I can think of if an actual 370 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,040 where a number of people start on a start line and run. 371 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,400 I think Coast to Cosy might be 200 and I'm going to get called 372 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,240 out on this so I probably won't say it, but it's a it's. 373 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,160 A. Well, I know it's from Kosciusko 374 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,840 to the coast. To the coast, which ain't short. 375 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,720 Yeah. The thing the other part I love 376 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:09,720 about the real and the story is that we took we all these people 377 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,080 and we mentioned this that all these people that seek out to 378 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,600 achieve something or set out for one of these challenges. 379 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,920 You know, there's a level with a lot of them, not all of them. 380 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,920 A lot of them aren't doing it to accomplish the thing. 381 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,440 They're doing it because they're hoping that the byproduct of 382 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,960 what they're doing results in fame and fortune. 383 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:43,040 I think that might be my cynical take on it, but Cliff young and 384 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,280 different era, sure, but he's turned up and it's a bit what 385 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,520 you're saying about it's a race. He's turned up not because he 386 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,600 thought this is going to make me famous and lead me to a better 387 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,160 life or to a different life or to a life of opportunity. 388 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,880 He turned up because, and this is the doing a bit more research 389 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,720 on it, he'd run the Melbourne Marathon a couple of times 390 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,520 before he competed in this ultra. 391 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,720 His best time in the Melbourne Marathon was a 302. 392 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,520 Yeah, right. Solid. 393 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,360 Good marathon runner without being a great marathon runner. 394 00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:17,760 He did that three O 2, by the way, at the age of 58 because he 395 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,160 did this run when he was 61. That's. 396 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,400 Right. So, but it's like then he's 397 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:28,400 turned up to compete in this, in this thing that's just, you 398 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,880 know, and he competed not because he hoped it would turn 399 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,200 into, and I don't know, Cliffie and people out there might 400 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,400 disagree, but I think if we, if some of the influencers in our 401 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,280 world were a bit more like Cliffie Young, I think the 402 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,280 running influencing world would be a bit better off. 403 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,880 Yeah, I anyway, I that one, that one went really. 404 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,400 Yeah, definitely. He resonated with me. 405 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,360 We should have put him in the poll of best known Australian 406 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:54,520 runners actually. Oh, you know what, I reckon 407 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,760 we'll probably we'll leave it a little while, but maybe we can 408 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,760 re poll with some different, different runners in the future 409 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,080 'cause you know, Mona Getty, very similar to Cliffie. 410 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,920 Cliffie, you know, came really high up. 411 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,360 OK, here's a bit of audio for you. 412 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:13,320 Liam, what do you think is going on here? 413 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,440 And yes, I mean, you've got the show notes in front of you. 414 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,960 You know what? I deliberately didn't look at 415 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,240 this. I it sounded in my head. 416 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,160 I heard running of the bulls in Pampliner. 417 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,520 That's what it brought back memories of me. 418 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,760 OK, well I'm I've decided to throw the running out the door 419 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,240 today and and I wanted to give a shout out. 420 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,520 You know, we've got the Jillaroos. 421 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,320 Jackaroos. What are the Aussie? 422 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,440 Socceroos. Socceroos. 423 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,800 All these Roos, you know, I want to give a shout out to I think 424 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,160 maybe the most authentic Roos we've got as Australians, right? 425 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,880 And it's called the Chopperoos. I know this time. 426 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,600 You know, the chopperoos. So Australia. 427 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,240 So at the moment, this is the moment that that audio was the 428 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,040 moment Australia won their 5th consecutive Timberland World 429 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,840 Champ Lumberjack Championship. They're wood choppers. 430 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,480 Wood choppers, lumberjacks in the US, Yeah. 431 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,960 And they beat the US team in world record time. 432 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,920 So you think so that obviously chopping wood. 433 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,640 Yeah, there's a bit of salt. Like actual. 434 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:24,680 Chainsaw in it. The chainsaw's the one I always 435 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:31,880 kind of go that's I know it's hard, but doesn't look that 436 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,120 hard. Do you own a chainsaw? 437 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:35,720 No, I've never used a chainsaw so. 438 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,400 So you're commenting on it. It's just like, it's just like 439 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,920 some of my run shoe reviews mate. 440 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,560 But I'm going to go out and break the world record for 441 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,840 Chains because it can't be that hard. 442 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,240 It can't be that hard. Hey, talk about this. 443 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,160 Well, one, beating the lumberjacks of the US, you know 444 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,920 that home. I'd, I'd consider that home. 445 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,560 And do you reckon there's how many Tasmanians do you reckon 446 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:00,280 would be in this? Team. 447 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,840 Oh lots. It'd be dominated by Tassie. 448 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,120 Have to be a Tassie team I'm. Assuming there's a foster in 449 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:08,120 there, the the progeny of Young of the great Dave Foster. 450 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,360 I don't know, but I reckon trying to think there's a little 451 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,360 little town I remember starting a race at kind of what is it 452 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,960 East, no, West of Launceston called Mole Creek. 453 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,240 Mole Creek. And I can imagine that would, if 454 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,800 anyone who knows Mole Creek, I can imagine that's like the 455 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,360 epicentre of the training centre of the lumberjack. 456 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,480 Actually fun. No, here's a high performance. 457 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,440 Here's a fact. Remember that race I was telling 458 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,640 you about? I did with Kenny Wallace? 459 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:36,760 Yes. Mark Webber's adventure race. 460 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,160 Yes. We the very first year I did 461 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,400 that, it could have someone would know this. 462 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,480 It could have even been Mole Creek. 463 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:50,600 We started this adventure race by the team happening to cut 464 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,840 through a Tasmanian log. Well, that's how it. 465 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,960 Started you could not get on your bikes to start the course 466 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,120 until A-Team before so I don't know I'm. 467 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:02,040 Assuming Kenny did most of it for you. 468 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,920 No, no, because so like here, here, I don't know what you call 469 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,000 like this saw, but when you're on either end, but 2 sided, 2 470 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,960 sided saw, yeah. Think of that. 471 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,440 I think they're called a seesaw. A seesaw that's kidding as no 472 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,320 OK. Think of a big lump of like a, a 473 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,760 big log. Yeah, yeah. 474 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,520 And we, every team had a log and you had to cut through that with 475 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,120 your team before you could get on your bike. 476 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:26,600 I love that that's. A good that would that that just 477 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,840 came back. To I love that as an inclusion 478 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,840 of an adventure race. It's something different, it's 479 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,360 something unique, it's something out of a skill set for most 480 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:36,600 athletes. I love that as throwing that in 481 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,240 as a way to and you know what would have been better? 482 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,800 They could have made the coffee tables out of your nice chopped 483 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,280 up clogs. And you finish. 484 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,600 And as you finish your product, there's your participation 485 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,760 souvenir. They should put us in charge of 486 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,800 more stuff. Participation souvenirs we've 487 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,960 got. We might have found a niche. 488 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,600 Courtney, let's think more on this. 489 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,600 Hey, we got some loose ends to tie up from from last week's 490 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,880 episode while we were apart. Can I just start quickly? 491 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,480 I want to tie loose end. I know I threw this out last 492 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,200 week when we were talking. Jordan Barter sent in the race 493 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,360 that his old man used to do where they'd run around horse 494 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:10,440 tracks and get on the train and then get to the next horse 495 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,640 track. The third track they ran around 496 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,720 was not Randwick. It was in fact Warwick, but the 497 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:23,480 other loose end around that I mentioned a a train station race 498 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,360 that took place in Sydney and I had a look at it. 499 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,440 It's not a running event, OK? It's a logistics event. 500 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,760 Basically, the way this thing is done is that the fellow by the 501 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,360 name of Colin Burnett, last time I checked, has the record and 502 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:44,480 there's 178 train stations in Sydney and the goal is to get to 503 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,040 every train station in a day. The record is 15 hours, 54 504 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,320 minutes and 14 seconds, but there is limited running 505 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,120 involved. Basically it's about 506 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,040 coordinating the timetables of the trains. 507 00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:01,800 There's 50 million possible combinations of the order in 508 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,600 which you visit the stations. So basically, I think Collins, 509 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,000 well, he's a database consultant, so he knows how to 510 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,160 work a, he knows how to work an algorithm. 511 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,880 And so we. Could call it a orienteering 512 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,200 race. Yeah, it's a with train times. 513 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,320 It's a public transport orienteering race. 514 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,640 So less about running, more about being able to coordinate 515 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,000 train times. I would challenge him to try and 516 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,160 do that in Tokyo's train system. Mate, good luck people, you 517 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,960 know, just people. Yeah, well, that was, I mean, 518 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,760 I'm, I'm still interested in the horse race and I'm also 519 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,840 interested in I love finding new places to be able to run and new 520 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,720 trains to be able to run. I would love, you know, with 521 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,920 running booming. I'd also like to understand 522 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,320 accessibility to to race tracks. To to to places that are 523 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,920 normally off limits. 100%, yeah. Or is there any other places we 524 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,840 can think of that we can't run, that we'd like to run? 525 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,440 And do we have enough of a population running now that we 526 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,400 can sway those judgements? Because that's what it is, is 527 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,880 vote with your feet, right? With your feet, you got enough 528 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,920 people who put their hand up and say they'll be there. 529 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,120 You said like you pay how much to go into a public swimming 530 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:17,440 pool these days. What 777 bucks? 531 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,720 7 bucks for a swim? 10 bucks for a swim? 532 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,720 Think every morning you said you had 500 runners show up to run 533 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,320 in a place and pay 5 bucks, 10 bucks, make a bit of coin out. 534 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,440 That's interesting. Yeah. 535 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,200 All right, so still on those loose ends. 536 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:35,840 Now you have brought up this idea of when we see people or 537 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,320 people who listen to the podcast see each other on a trail or on 538 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,240 the road or wherever and you know, having a bit of a sign you 539 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,480 can say to each other and you we, we kind of went with 540 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,440 Dolphin. Well, we. 541 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,000 We. Dolphin. 542 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,840 Dolphin DO. Is it doffing the cap? 543 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,600 Is it? Dolphin. 544 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,760 Yeah, unlucky. I'll put the right so it's 545 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,720 DOFFING. DOFFING, doffing the cap, OK. 546 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,760 Dolphin, the cap from the English Old English term. 547 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,200 I have a bit of a story. I rode when I did get home 548 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,040 yesterday. I want to ride my man about out 549 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,320 in the in the ring National Park. 550 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:17,800 And as I rode in, I saw a few fellas and I generally don't 551 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,320 ride in a Red Bull. My Red Bull cap when I'm out in 552 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,960 the forest. Like sure, because I'm not a Red 553 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,520 Bull mountain bike racer. Like when I'm adventure racing 554 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,920 or we're doing VI VI videoing or whatever, I'll always wear my 555 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,840 Red Bull cap helmet. But yesterday I did put it on. 556 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,600 I rode into the forest. I don't know why I was wearing 557 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,080 it, but few people kind of looked at me and I I swore I 558 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,320 nearly got a bit of a doff. Really. 559 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,440 And I was throwing because I actually didn't. 560 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,080 I didn't know how to return. It, well, it was more I was 561 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,280 like, do they actually, are they really, is this actually a thing 562 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,440 or is just someone giving me a wave as I'm going in? 563 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,680 They have no idea who I am. And then I got self conscious 564 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,680 about it and I'm like, I didn't return it. 565 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,120 They're gonna think we're absolute wankers now. 566 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,080 Oh, it's so it's it threw me. Well, I. 567 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,320 Had the similar experience because I was running in the 568 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:15,440 rang over the weekend last weekend and I ran past a couple 569 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:21,440 of fellas. 1 great interaction, which is I was descending, I was 570 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,200 doing that 17 K loop, I was running counterclockwise. 571 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,480 And as I was descending that hill, we talked about power 572 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,400 hiking last weekend. Yes, fellow was coming up. 573 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,360 I was going down. We passed and he gave me a big 574 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,640 old wave and he said I'm listening to you right now. 575 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,800 And I'm like, no way, that's awesome. 576 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,040 And then as we passed by this point, he turned and said, I'm 577 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,880 listening to you talking about running this hill. 578 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,000 And I was like, that's amazing. Then when I got back to the car, 579 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,160 another fellow who I'd run past as well came up and said, are 580 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,480 you Liam? And I'm like, yeah. 581 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,520 And he goes, I've just been listening to the podcast while 582 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,160 I've been doing the loop. I'm like, oh, that's awesome. 583 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,440 His name's Matt. Shut up, Matt. 584 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,040 But he said, he said, as I, I thought it was you. 585 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,200 And as you went past, I thought, oh, I should doff my cap. 586 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,920 But he wasn't running with a cap. 587 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,000 Oh. So I think doffing the cap, 588 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,280 while a nice starting point, presents a problem because if 589 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,800 someone's running without a hat, what do they do? 590 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,080 Is it the symbol of doing it? But that's a bit I don't know. 591 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,200 So I don't know if it's perfect. OK. 592 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,720 We might have jumped ahead a bit here in the run sheet, but. 593 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,600 One of my mates, Brett Carter, we've spoken about before, he 594 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,680 wrote to me and said, look, I think very similar concept. 595 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,800 He said, why not just give each other a finger? 596 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,280 Then you'll know. That's a bit that's a bit harsh 597 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,400 because if if. It's an all or nothing play. 598 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,680 It's an all or nothing. And who would initiate that? 599 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,920 That's I'm not going to be initiating running past someone 600 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,960 and giving them anyway. So OK, we know it's not doffer 601 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,720 cap because not everyone runs in a hat. 602 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,560 Yep, and we know it's not the finger. 603 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,240 We don't want to flip people the bird because it's no one's brave 604 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,880 enough to initiate it. Let's keep workshopping this. 605 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,280 We need to decide on the In the beginning podcast running 606 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,640 greeting that you can share with other runners to just give them 607 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,920 a little bit. It's just a wink. 608 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,240 It's anonymous smile that we know. 609 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,880 We know. OK, we'll keep working. 610 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,040 And then the last one, we obviously your fluoro socks made 611 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,840 our episode last last week and I have recovered from seeing them. 612 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,040 But I got I got a story about well, this is a story. 613 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,480 I'm just going to read it because it'll be easier. 614 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,840 So here's a story. This one I think came from and 615 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,360 but anyway, Henry Coombs is a doctor here on the Gold Coast. 616 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,600 My stake story about how to treat snake bites yes has come 617 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,440 from having a few runs OK with Henry and going well, he's a 618 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,360 doctor I. Trust his. 619 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,680 He's the one who said you should stay. 620 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,440 This is what I want to do now. Henry always used to run with 621 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,880 one fluoro calf sock and I one day asked him why. 622 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,440 And here's the story. If anything happens to you on 623 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,360 the trails, it'll be easy for people to to easy for people to 624 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,160 find you, especially if you're by yourself. 625 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,000 So I'm not sure on that. Maybe it means if you. 626 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,240 Fall off a Cliff so if. You've got a bit of fluoro on, 627 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,080 you're not going to be camouflaged as much into the the 628 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,320 brush, so that makes a bit of sense. 629 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,800 You'd be surprised how much 1 calf sock can do to help you 630 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:37,600 from a broken bone as asleep to a snake bite to A to a snake 631 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,600 bite. Yeah. 632 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,600 Right. And then the one he didn't say, 633 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:48,240 but obviously toilet paper. And then that way you can keep 634 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,600 your two socks if you're in trouble. 635 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,720 So this has changed my like I've, I've, I've recovered a 636 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,240 little bit from scene 2 mate, but I trust Henry and I, this is 637 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,120 something that kind of we can talk about like maybe one. 638 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,560 OK, not for me. I'd still rather carry it 639 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,720 somewhere. Else so the valid, so the 640 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,960 validity or the usefulness of a single calf. 641 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:17,920 So a, it adds visibility in in need of in in case of genuine 642 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,200 danger, genuine danger. BI imagine put the flag up. 643 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,280 But it's also, I guess it's kind of like, I mean, a lot of 644 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,520 watches and phones these days have incident detection on them. 645 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,520 So if something does happen, they can report it. 646 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,840 But if you don't, and then your family knows that you're the guy 647 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,200 with the pink 1 pink running calf compression sock. 648 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,280 And you can ask people, has anybody seen this guy? 649 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,480 Yeah. You become readily identifiable, 650 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,400 which is great. And then there's the toilet 651 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,240 benefit as well. The tourniquet stuff. 652 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,680 Yeah. Look, it's ticking all boxes for 653 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,720 me. Maybe I'll bring the yellow 654 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,360 socks out of the cupboard. They're still in there. 655 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,280 I don't mind that. All right, enough. 656 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,600 And we've talked a lot of a lot of interesting stuff to begin 657 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,720 this week, but how's your run week been? 658 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,160 What have you been up to, Liam? Since last week, I have I put a 659 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,240 real focus on trails. I put a real focus on elevation. 660 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,280 Kanani is on the cards. I put a real focus in on getting 661 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,120 up in the trails. I did three trial runs last 662 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,760 week. I think for the week I had, it 663 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,440 was interesting going back to that kilometres, the intensity 664 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,040 discussion we'd had. I did about the same amount of 665 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,840 kilometres as the week prior, but I did an hour more running 666 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:31,480 time on feet and I had 1500 metres of elevation in the week. 667 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,320 It's really so yeah, really enjoyed getting back up there. 668 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,560 Add in the Lerang trail. Interestingly, MY17K loop time 669 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,080 was 9 minutes slower than the quickest I've ever done it, but 670 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,440 I actually felt pretty good. So I'm looking forward to doing 671 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,679 some more trail running. What I do want to share with you 672 00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,480 though is the Barely Run swim event or the Swim run event. 673 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,600 We spoke about this. Which we spoke about I'd signed 674 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,560 up I swim like a rock but and I've been promised by Ty Dalka 675 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,120 that it would be pond like conditions in the swim. 676 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,600 It was not a pond. That's. 677 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,440 Some waves roll. It was raging. 678 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,600 No, it probably wasn't raging, but it was certainly rolly. 679 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,440 It was certainly a bit bumpy, bit much better swimmers than 680 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,360 me. Surf athletes described it as a 681 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,000 bit of a rough swim. OK, so I was internally chuffed 682 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,920 that I got through it. There was only a brief 683 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,240 flirtation with asking the rubber ducky to come save me in 684 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:29,560 the swim, but I got through a 400 metre swim. 38 athletes in 685 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,320 my age group, in the 40 to 49 year old age group. 686 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,720 All right. I reckon I would have come out 687 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:38,880 of the swim maybe 30 seconds. There wasn't a lot. 688 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,520 There weren't a lot of people. Behind me. 689 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:42,680 OK, OK. I thought you were gonna go 39th 690 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,960 then. Well, you know, I, I think I 691 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,520 beat a couple out of the swim but not a lot. 692 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,080 But by the time I finished the run, which is a 4K sand run soft 693 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,960 sand run. I What is soft sand? 694 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's change. 695 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,440 That's changed because. Did you used to run on the path? 696 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,880 I've never done the event, never done the event myself, but I'm 697 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,480 sure it used to run up the path. No, it used to be on the sand. 698 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,920 And then you run up the path. No, you're on the sand for the 699 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,760 whole run. Soft sand too, and well, you're 700 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,520 allowed to get down near to the but but on the day there was not 701 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,560 a lot of. Yeah, it was high, high tide. 702 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,400 High tide so it was a 4K run on the sand and by the time I 703 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,320 finished I was smack bang in the middle #19 out of 38. 704 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,040 So right The middle wasn't passed on the run which was 705 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,920 nice. And from a timing perspective 706 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,520 for your info was averaging 420 ones on the same which I was 707 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,320 very pleased with. Felt pretty good. 708 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,920 Felt pretty consistent. So All in all though, awesome 709 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,880 event. Yep, awesome event. 710 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,720 So much fun. My daughter did the wade race as 711 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:43,320 well. She loved it. 712 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,800 My wife was laughing because she was looking at Quinn, my 713 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,000 daughter, and saying she's nervous, excited. 714 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,080 She's nervous because she's never done anything like this, 715 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,560 but she's genuinely excited. There's a an energy. 716 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,440 Something you to do? I was just nervous. 717 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,200 Nervous. Yeah. 718 00:36:58,240 --> 00:36:59,840 She was like, there was no excitement about you. 719 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,600 You're just nervous. Nervous because you've got to 720 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,920 swim and it's not what you're good at. 721 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,760 So what? A What a great place. 722 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,800 I mean, in fact, you're out in the ocean swimming, running 723 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,200 along a, you know. Burly Beach, one of the great 724 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,360 beaches in the world. What a yeah, what a. 725 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,080 So well done to be the burly swimming room crew. 726 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,440 Do you know who won by any chance? 727 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,840 Like the male and females. I don't, I don't. 728 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,480 I do know, I think the, I know the team's event was taken out 729 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:29,400 by the men's team event was taken out by there's an Aussie 730 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:35,120 swimmer called Maximilian Gio Lani, or he's, he was there. 731 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,560 He had the Olympic tattoo. He was a massive unit, obviously 732 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,440 question And the runner, Luke Sayers, I want to say he's a 733 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,080 physio. I think, I think it's Luke 734 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,640 Sayers. He's a physio at my Gold Coast 735 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,400 physio who actually treats Alana, my wife. 736 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,560 So But yeah, he's a good. Runner Oh well, Congrats to 737 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,520 everyone not not not awesome of it yeah awesome of it's good to 738 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,720 hear so that's about. And the other thing I want to 739 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,160 quickly chime in on here before we get to your running in Japan, 740 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:08,600 I now I blame this podcast. I am now the runners gifting 741 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,920 consultant I have received explained. 742 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,960 I reckon in the last month or so, I've received messages from 743 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:23,280 half a dozen partners of friends who have taken up running, going 744 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,640 hey, what should I get so and so for their birthday. 745 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,000 And I've had direct inquiries about the watch after we 746 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,560 discussed watches. Yeah. 747 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,280 Question saying hey, I want to get that watch for so and So's 748 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,920 birthday. Can you send me all the details 749 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,120 on it? Do you think it's the right one? 750 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,360 Am I? Do you feel pressure? 751 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,560 Yes, yeah, this is the responsibility I didn't ask for 752 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,800 to be Now I'm a I'm not a great gift giver at the best of times, 753 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,600 but now I'm responsible for and but I did want to share this 754 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,280 because I know that as running booms, right. 755 00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,280 I know that there's a lot of people out there who either they 756 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,000 or their partners are into running and people will now go, 757 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,840 oh, well, maybe I can get you something for running. 758 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,120 But I think my most recent interaction, I nailed it. 759 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:11,320 Oh, I won't say that name. Although the Jack who listens to 760 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,040 this podcast, this is the message I got from his partner 761 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,120 said help, please. What are some good running 762 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,320 brands for Jack's birthday? Basically, what do runners like? 763 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,360 That was the question I was given by his, by his wife. 764 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,600 And I said, I said first thing, what does he need? 765 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,440 I said, does he have the shoes he wants or likes? 766 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,960 If he's got shoes and a watch, let's move on. 767 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,440 And then I said, next question, is there a particular race you 768 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,520 know he'd like to do? Well, that's a good one. 769 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,280 An entry into something might be good. 770 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,240 And then I said, as far as other gear goes, I've just started 771 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:50,200 running your knees and it was the Salomon shorts you gave me. 772 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,920 I said they are expensive, but they're awesome. 773 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,880 I assume because this bike's bald. 774 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,760 I said assume he's I assume given the head he's got, he's 775 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,120 got plenty of hats and then I said new fresh running shirts 776 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,880 are always good, which encourages you to throw out the 777 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,560 old stinky ones. I really like these Puma ones as 778 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,080 in the length of this they're simple but light Puma ones that 779 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,160 I've been running in as well. And she wrote back, awesome 780 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,320 thank you. I think the shorts and an entry 781 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,840 to a trail run is a good idea. He She said he thinks he feels 782 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,280 bad when he. Books and entry into an event 783 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,520 that might take time away from the family or time away for 784 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,120 training, that sort of stuff. So I would say to anybody out 785 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,600 there that has a partner interested in running, find a 786 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,840 race that you think they might like doing and enter them into 787 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,160 it for them because a, it'll motivate them to train. 788 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,800 But also it shows it's assigned to them, which is you saying 789 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,000 it's OK, it's OK. Yeah, we support. 790 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,200 You go out and do this, it's great for you. 791 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,200 We like you being happy and healthy and chasing something 792 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,480 you're interested in. Maybe don't go as far as running 793 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,480 across Australia. That's probably gonna take. 794 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,440 Don't run from it. Don't wait to the mid to A7 day 795 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,240 event. Yeah, yeah. 796 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,600 But you know, just just pick something you think they might 797 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,720 like an entry for. Oh, how good alright, I'm I'm we 798 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:06,240 can pretty much just class you in the influencer category now, 799 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:07,120 so. No. 800 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,480 Hey, talk to me when we're running in Japan, please. 801 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,520 Yeah, mate. Well, the good news is I was 802 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,880 just gonna grab my phone to look at my Strava, but I've done 803 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,840 between Fraser Island and being a bit limited, running there and 804 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,160 travelling and everything, and then straight into Japan for a 805 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,640 couple of weeks, I've been limited. 806 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,880 But I noticed I still managed to get about 50 to 60 kilometres of 807 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,880 running done each week. So even though I had 7 full days 808 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,320 off at one stage in there, it's somehow the mileage, you know 809 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,720 that it it's maintained, Yeah, it's probably not looking that 810 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:43,840 great for a month, a race in one month, but we can manage that. 811 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,080 But what I did do, well, the great thing that happened, I was 812 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,680 in obviously, yeah, this is the beauty of social, the good side 813 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,920 of socials. I'm putting a couple of runs up 814 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,440 in the middle of Tokyo and we spoke about being in Tokyo last 815 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,120 week, a mate of mine or I suppose a colleague originally, 816 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,040 Billy Curtis, who's a, you know, bloody great trail runner. 817 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,120 I think he's won Buffalo Stampede. 818 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,600 I raced him at Newcastle at the Solomon Golden Trail race last 819 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:09,160 year. Yeah. 820 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,160 So I didn't like I've, I've crossed paths with him, reached 821 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,480 out, said you're not coming to Kyota by any chance. 822 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,240 And I'm like, tomorrow I'm in Kyoto for two days. 823 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,080 He's living in Kyoto at the moment for the sole purpose of 824 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,000 running. Oh, wow. 825 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,000 Yeah, yeah. He's, you know, because in 826 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,720 Australia, I suppose what I gathered is in Australia, you 827 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,680 know, it's a little bit hard to make some coin to try and be 828 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,000 professional. And that's in Asia's got a great 829 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,080 trail running scene. You know, Hong Kong. 830 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,480 The Japanese are super strong. I mean, half, you know, I think 831 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,840 something like 79% of Japan's mountains. 832 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,160 So is that what sort of terrain Kyoto offers up or Japan 833 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,720 specific? Yeah, well, Kyoto itself like is 834 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:52,560 a city arguably in a valley with just mountains all around it. 835 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,640 So mate, I I got a tour guide of running around first of all up 836 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,520 the the mountains or the hills of Kyoto. 837 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,480 And then the next day we went on a, you know, we were just 838 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,040 yapping away and did AI think we're in? 839 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,480 We're running about 17 K along the river up around. 840 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,840 That's the flat run, yeah. I could have spent weeks there 841 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,640 just running. So what started off as no 842 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,320 running turned into like great experience running into and you 843 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,600 know, he was bloody wish him all the best around what he gets up 844 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,120 to up there. So I'll keep an eye on him now 845 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,920 what he's doing. This is that right there is why 846 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,920 I think I sent you this during the week. 847 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,680 Kantiki are now offering run holidays. 848 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,240 Yes. I don't know if that's, I don't 849 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:38,240 know if that's on the run. Sheet it is on our run sheet 850 00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:40,240 later on so. I'll leave it, but I'll leave 851 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:40,880 it. For the moment. 852 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,680 But that's because the what a There is no better way to get to 853 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,160 know a new city, town, whatever it is, than by running around it 854 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,920 and. And early in the morning, 855 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,200 because no one's out, you can like see this was the thing in 856 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,000 Tokyo. You by, I reckon, 7:30 in the 857 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,000 morning. I couldn't run down the streets, 858 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,200 no, because it was just chocolate. 859 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,120 So you go to the park and you could do a few laps and then you 860 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,200 just have to dodge the lights and people on the way home. 861 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,200 You get out at 5:30. You can run anywhere you want. 862 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,200 It's amazing. And Strava and then the beauty 863 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,920 and I'm going to give Strava massive like props here because 864 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,440 what Strava has done for international running in the 865 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,080 sense of you can rock up anywhere and see that Strava 866 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,960 heat map of where people run. And the stronger the line, 867 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,040 obviously the more people will run in that area. 868 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,440 So you can generally work out where the best running is in a 869 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,040 city or in trails like instantly. 870 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,440 Do you know what's interesting as you say this is because that 871 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,120 is clearly a premium feature. Oh. 872 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,600 God no. I've done this to you before. 873 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,480 I. Don't have premium Strava and 874 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,360 now I'm getting the feeling do you remember when you I don't 875 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,520 know how long you held out? Am I being a bit of leaders? 876 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,800 No, no, no, not at all. Not at all. 877 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,040 Seriously, I don't know how long you held out on being one of 878 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,320 those people without Spotify Premium when if you were, let's 879 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,160 say you're a while, yes, shame, but you would. 880 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,000 But now you have people come. Yeah, of course. 881 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,400 Because if people come around your house and, like, you're 882 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,280 having a Barbie or whatever and the playlist suddenly cuts out 883 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,920 because there's an ad for Bunnings, Yeah, you don't get, 884 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,360 oh, this is embarrassing. And I wonder if we're going to 885 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,520 get to that point in the running community around Strava where 886 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,840 people like you start talking about the heat map features and 887 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,800 all that sort of stuff, and people like me hanging our heads 888 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,640 in shame because we don't have premiums. 889 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,480 What? What are you talking about? 890 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,080 I don't. I don't know that feature, 891 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,360 sorry. Well anyway you can look at 892 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,680 segments as well, but it just it doesn't offer the same. 893 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,280 But anyway, look. So I work out where up from 894 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,880 whatever city. I mean you're dead right? 895 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,600 The best way to see a city. So good. 896 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,320 I work out the family plan for the day of where we're going 897 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,880 often by, which isn't always great for me because I've 898 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,400 already seen it in the morning, but it's always a good way to 899 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,360 kind of like avoid. Oh God, why did we come here? 900 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,920 That's not good. Yeah, yeah. 901 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,520 Let's I'll just quickly go. You're troubleshooting. 902 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,160 Yeah, yeah, you're. Troubleshooting the day out. 903 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,080 I love that. That's great. 904 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,080 That sounds amazing. Shout out to what was his name, 905 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,840 Billy Curtis. Billy Curtis yeah yeah, yeah 906 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,600 yeah yeah. So 1 of Australias best try 907 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,000 runners, but up in Asia now really gonna give it a proper, 908 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,200 proper crack. And he made me wanna go and race 909 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,960 like I'm like, where are you? Where are you racing? 910 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,880 I want to, I want to kind of come and see what you're doing. 911 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,040 You've got an itch to scratch now over in over in Japan and 912 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,320 elsewhere with some races, don't you? 913 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,040 And then like I said, certainly not much on the mileage front, 914 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:33,520 but the body's feeling OK, fine. And then I just got back and 915 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,640 rode my mountain bike last night in the forest, ran along the 916 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,560 beach this morning and the heat mate it. 917 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,600 I've, I've said for a while, and this goes back to the days I 918 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,040 think we've mentioned training when I was training with Mike 919 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,840 Shelley and I said, oh, well, you know, you, you can go to 920 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,040 altitude and you get benefits, but there's also benefits to 921 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,880 training in the heat around blood, blood plasma. 922 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,200 And you know, sinus will tell you a lot more than I can about 923 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,000 it, but I've always felt it's helped training in the heat. 924 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,600 There is a detrimental side to it as well. 925 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,520 It is tough. Running is harder. 926 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,040 You have to. On a day like today, you have to 927 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,040 manage what you're doing and understand and listen to your 928 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,960 body, and you don't have to finish what you set out to do. 929 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,040 I was going to ask, I'm glad you brought this up because I did 930 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,280 have this down as, as something I wanted to ask you about 931 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:30,400 running in the heat. Yeah, the, we know there's the 932 00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:34,560 the Goggins community, which is grind through grind, just just 933 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,960 get it done sort of attitude about running. 934 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,800 Then there's, you know, my mum who says don't, don't. 935 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,080 You'll do yourself damage in this sort of heat. 936 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,440 Yes. How do you and not get, and this 937 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,840 is only for you, but how do you adapt and adjust to the heat 938 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,920 That that idea of I wanted to get out and get 20 minutes of 939 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,560 threshold done with 1010 minutes on the side, but it's just too 940 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,480 hot. I'll adapt and adjust and do 941 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,440 something else or. I I adjust 100% you have to 942 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,000 adjust. Sometimes it can just be too 943 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,720 hard or if it's not adjusting the session, you still want to 944 00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:13,400 achieve something. You've just got to like just 945 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,720 tailor it back and go that little bit easier. 946 00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:20,280 And that's where heart rate's quite difficult when it's that 947 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,480 hot, but it also can provide a little bit of a guide. 948 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,200 Like when it's really hot, your heart rate will just, you know, 949 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:29,480 skyrocket and really increase because your body's just trying 950 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,680 to do so much more to cool yourself down. 951 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,240 So it's that happy medium of how you, yeah, everyone can have a 952 00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:39,280 different way of attacking that. But then I think outside of 953 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,280 running, that's where it really becomes important with recovery. 954 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,480 So like the difference between running and doing the session 955 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,200 and being like your core body temperature's up, everything's 956 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,080 hot now. Look, some people might go, 957 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,960 well, perfect time for a nice bath. 958 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,120 Hey, it may well be, but I find even just going and jumping in 959 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,880 the ocean for 5 minutes just to bring it down, having a cold 960 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,320 shower, bring it down. I jump back in the car and feel 961 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,800 1,000,000 bucks compared to if I jumped in the car and hadn't 962 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,720 done any of that. Electrolytes like we've talked 963 00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:10,000 about, you know, just managing some of those for making sure 964 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,120 the fluids go back in better. But you know, the one thing I 965 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,360 could say would be the, the, the main thing I think in that those 966 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,480 conditions you can do is get in air conditioning in the day. 967 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,600 Yeah. And not everyone. 968 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,120 I mean, depending on your job and depending on what you do, 969 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,600 you know, that's not available to everyone. 970 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,200 But if you want to recover and if you've got to train in heat, 971 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,280 get in the air con during the day. 972 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,680 I challenge one part of that, OK, it is available to everyone 973 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,800 and let me give you my, let me give you my hack. 974 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,600 OK, let me give you my hack. I used to do this when I was 975 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,960 doing the run club in Brisbane because we'd finish, we'd start 976 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,040 during these summer months we're in right now. 977 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,040 It'd be days where it would be 30° and we'd still go out at 978 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,240 11:00 AM and do this 31 minute run club. 979 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,400 A 5 minute stroll through the frozen food section of Coles or 980 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,760 Woolworths or ALDI makes your body temperature right back down 981 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,960 right. You just go go for a walk that 982 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,080 hey, they aren't going to kick you out right? 983 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,840 You just peruse that frozen food section. 984 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,240 Put a podcast in. Do it at listen to in the 985 00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:15,920 beginning podcast as you peruse the frozen food section. 986 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,360 That is a perfect way to bring the if you can't get to the 987 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,800 ocean or a pool or you don't have air conditioning or an ice 988 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,640 bath if. You're in the city, the frozen 989 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,080 for you groceries. The frozen food section of your 990 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,480 nearest IGA Coles, whatever it is, is a perfect place to bring 991 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,360 that core temperature back. To There you go, Liam. 992 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,720 Liam's urban hacks. Yeah, exactly. 993 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,640 And I now apologise to the store managers of every fast of every 994 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,520 shop that now has to do with sweaty runners in their frozen 995 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,240 foods. Yeah. 996 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,200 And slushies. Slushies, $711.50 Slushies, 997 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,160 yeah. Can't go wrong and then you can 998 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,760 also get get get in the. In the frozen food. 999 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,560 In the frozen food. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1000 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:56,720 Nice. All right. 1001 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:58,880 You got anything else from your own week? 1002 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,600 Are we jumping into some strange events? 1003 00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:03,600 Nah, let's just get into the running. 1004 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,560 Running. It's gonna get more interesting 1005 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,720 now, right? Because we've got an event. 1006 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,040 Yeah, like, I don't know how long that is. 1007 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,040 I haven't worked it out. Two nanny for two months. 1008 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,880 OK 02 months. Two months from Kanani. 1009 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,600 OK, well that's longer than I thought. 8 weeks. 1010 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,600 It's the 28th of March, isn't it? 1011 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,680 Pretty sure it's the last weekend of March. 1012 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,360 We're in the last weekend of January. 1013 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,720 So we've got two weeks, two months. 1014 00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:27,600 Well, that's more more time than I thought I was kind of playing 1015 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,600 it down already Going 5 weeks is going to be a bit of a 1016 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,480 challenge. 8 weeks, 8 weeks is OK. 1017 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,240 Yeah, all right. So we'll we'll have a lot more, 1018 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,440 let's say struction running conversation coming in the next 1019 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,560 few weeks. That's right in the next few 1020 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,800 months. WTF. 1021 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,320 Let's go. OK, look at some of these last 1022 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,200 wonderful things. Last week I just wanted to touch 1023 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,520 on quickly. Last week I talked about we, you 1024 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,320 were absolutely hated. Synchronised cycling. 1025 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,600 Synchronised cycling, I still do. 1026 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,600 I talked about a Red Bull athlete who does BMX flatland 1027 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,960 and the fact that he's huge superstar. 1028 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,840 His name? Mathis Danos. 1029 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,640 He's a French guy. D'andois Mathias d'andois. 1030 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:05,800 Thank you. You're welcome. 1031 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:11,240 Pronunciation check. Hey, it's never going to get old 1032 00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:13,160 because I love you doing it to. Me so. 1033 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:18,200 He, he's been this guy's now it's a little bit like I'm just 1034 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,200 trying to think of, no, I won't go down the break dancing route, 1035 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,000 but it's kind of like a sport where he did what you didn't. 1036 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,840 He does individually what you didn't like. 1037 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,760 He writes, but he does it on a BMX. 1038 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,800 He's stylish. He's, you know, in the street 1039 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,560 where there are competitions for this. 1040 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,720 So he's the world champion at it also. 1041 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,120 But he's starred in French films. 1042 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,840 He's a, he's a model. He's he takes all these boxes at 1043 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,000 like, I'm in awe. I'm like, this is the man I used 1044 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,600 to, I watched him a lot on Instagram, mainly because he's a 1045 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,240 Red Bull athlete too. And he kept popping up. 1046 00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:58,280 But he's made a living and a good living out of being one of 1047 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,720 these BMX flat land guys. I'm just having a look through 1048 00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:01,800 some. Can you see what he does right 1049 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:02,640 now? Yeah, yeah. 1050 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,400 So. They take him into museums and 1051 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,600 film him. Yeah, in the middle of the. 1052 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,640 I think I even seen him in Rome down in the fatty and don't 1053 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:11,920 quote me I think. That's the fatty. 1054 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,880 You know what, you know what, I think it might be because I'm 1055 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,680 watching some of his videos now and I love it. 1056 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,760 Do you know what the difference is? 1057 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,960 That synchronised cycling from last week a, there was a bunch 1058 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,440 from doing at the same time, but also that they're wearing lycra 1059 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:32,080 cycling outfits. OK, this guy's wearing St wear. 1060 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,440 It's, it's a, it's a whole vibe. It's, there's a culture, there's 1061 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,200 a, there's an artistic element to it. 1062 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:44,160 And he's doing it very much in a style with what he's wearing. 1063 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,400 And on the streets that I go, I, I can sense that so. 1064 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,480 Is he an artist or an athlete? He's both. 1065 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,480 Both. OK, I like it. 1066 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,760 An artist. No shout out, I like Mateus 1067 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,040 Dandois, I will continue to look at him. 1068 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,480 That's a good one, he just followed him. 1069 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,840 Nice. We will put that one in the 1070 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,440 notes if anyone's you know wants to have a check him out as well. 1071 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,200 So my next one, have you heard of stilt racing? 1072 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,600 No, and I get the sense I don't want to hear about it. 1073 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,360 No, you probably don't, but I think this comes from our China. 1074 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,520 Yeah, Chinese friends again. Let me just have a look. 1075 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,960 Where stilt racing, still racing. 1076 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,600 Yeah, definitely. Chinese is an Asian, right? 1077 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,200 I'm having a look at this video. You 100% Asian. 1078 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:37,720 No, just no, just just this is I mean. 01 of the comments This is 1079 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:39,600 more of a sport than hobby horsing. 1080 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,560 Oh, I agree with that. I agree that it's more of a 1081 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:48,680 sport than hobby horsing it look, this is yeah, no, just no. 1082 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:50,880 There's no need. There is no need for this sport. 1083 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,560 There's no need for a lot of sports. 1084 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,880 But these people doing this stilt racing are more than 1085 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,840 capable of running, and they're choosing to do it in stilts, 1086 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,520 which, yeah, this, there's no point in this. 1087 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,240 Is this one the same coach? So you're not a fast runner? 1088 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,440 Can't jump, can't throw for shit? 1089 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,240 Nah, but why don't you throw some stilts on and we'll make an 1090 00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:14,560 event? Up Nah out on that. 1091 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,120 Sorry, we're gone. I'm bringing one to the party 1092 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:22,120 here though this year, Courtney, for the first time ever, 1093 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:28,680 officially, I believe we will answer the question, can robots 1094 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,240 beat humans in 1/2 marathon? Apparently in Beijing. 1095 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:38,680 When is it due? Later this year in April, 12,000 1096 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:44,920 humans will be racing the half mile course against 20 robots. 1097 00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:50,640 20 companies are developing these humanoid robots right to 1098 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,360 run 1/2 marathon so. It's a bit of a like a company 1099 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,800 competition that who's it's mate the best. 1100 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,320 People like remember when they used to have that sun race thing 1101 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,360 where people, schools and universities would design those 1102 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,520 solar powered cars to go from Darwin to Adelaide? 1103 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,400 They still do this. They were racing it in the rang 1104 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,600 one day around the Vela, around the crit circuit. 1105 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,480 So schools, it's a bit like that, except instead of 1106 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,000 designing solar powered cars, you're designing robots to run a 1107 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,720 marathon or half marathon. Do you know where I thought you 1108 00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:21,720 were going there with the schools for a moment, where they 1109 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,840 all the the competitions where they build the robots to? 1110 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,240 Fight each other. Yeah, it's like to destroy it 1111 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,120 step instead of instead of robots fighting each other, 1112 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,240 they'll be racing humans over 1/2 marathon. 1113 00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:33,640 So. We've seen we've seen a few 1114 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,880 robots run a marathon and make the distance. 1115 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,000 Have we? Yes. 1116 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,600 I didn't know that I. Don't know. 1117 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,120 We haven't put that in one of the weeks. 1118 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,400 Yeah. So I have seen they have had 1119 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,880 robots run the marathon distance. 1120 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,760 Wow. It looks ugly. 1121 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,680 Yeah, they can do it. Yeah, but I like this cuz it's a 1122 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,320 race. Yeah, I mean, that sounds a bit 1123 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,680 like how I run a marathon. It looks ugly and I can do it, 1124 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,880 but interesting, the interesting, just looking at 1125 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:01,840 some of the data about it and I'll be fascinated. 1126 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,760 I'll keep an eye on this. When it actually happens, it's 1127 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,320 due to happen in April. There's some, there's some 1128 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,800 specifications about the size of the robots and the they have to 1129 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,480 be humanoid, right? They can't just be. 1130 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,440 You can't just build a car. It's got to run. 1131 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,320 But then there's. Do you reckon they have that 1132 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,280 same rule? You know, 'cause like, I mean, 1133 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,440 they flaunt it, race walkers, but you've got to have one to 1134 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,320 run. You've got to have no contact 1135 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:25,600 with one foot. So. 1136 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,800 Completely off the ground. That would be the perfect rule, 1137 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,920 wouldn't? It it says that distance from 1138 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,760 the hip joint to the sole of foot should be at least 1.47 1139 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,080 feet. So they're dictating like, you 1140 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,200 know, I don't know if there's any. 1141 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,840 You should be an adult robot. Yes, yeah, anyway, But I think 1142 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,400 it's interesting to look at. There's one robot that's already 1143 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,320 sort of participated in this type of race before, and they've 1144 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,560 got it clocked at running 6.2 mph, which is about 10 KS an 1145 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,840 hour. So if it does this thing, it's 1146 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,840 probably going to come in at about just over 4 hours for a 1147 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,840 total time for the marathon, OK. So the runners are going to win. 1148 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,760 Not all of them, Courtney. Not all of us. 1149 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,040 Think if they do this every year and you see the innovation until 1150 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,640 the robot can be. And then all of a sudden, 1151 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,800 remember when Jesse, Jesse Owens famously raced a horse back in 1152 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,600 the day? They're talking back in the in 1153 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,000 the 19. Tell me about this. 1154 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:20,480 One. Yeah, yeah. 1155 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,520 Jesse Owens, the famous American athlete, raced a horse. 1156 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,800 He needed the money, which is a sad story in itself, but I love 1157 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,920 the idea that one day we'll see Elliot Kipchogi racing a robot. 1158 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,120 So it's a match race. Did. 1159 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,360 You were you telling me about Kipchogi? 1160 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,680 He's going to. Kipchogi signed up for London. 1161 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,560 Yeah, right. Which is really exciting. 1162 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,120 That's a race I would watch. A straight up race, yeah. 1163 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,880 Kipchoge versus a robot. Yes, I absolutely. 1164 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,920 I think that that would get more there you go. 1165 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,120 That would get more viewers than the what was the sub two hour 1166 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,920 the breaking the breaking 2 project. 1167 00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:00,000 I actually go nearly go as far as saying, Oh, if they did a 1168 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,680 head to head race, that race would. 1169 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,880 So I think at the moment, if you look at YouTube, the highest 1170 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,560 watched clip was Felix, the Red Bull guy jumping out of space. 1171 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,920 Yes, I would go as far as saying, I reckon the robot 1172 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,440 versus Chip Kogi would nearly outdo that. 1173 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:28,040 Do you know what it would be? It would be Jake Paul versus 1174 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:34,280 Mike Tyson of the running world. Because you're so Jake Paul 1175 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,440 versus Mike Tyson broke all boxing viewing records, right? 1176 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,560 Yeah. Crap fight, but the build up and 1177 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,640 the hype and the noise was bigger than anything the boxing 1178 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:50,240 world had seen before. So even the boxing purists 1179 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,880 couldn't help but get involved because of the noise that was 1180 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,840 made and because Mike Tyson was involved, right? 1181 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,360 Elliot Kipchoge would bring the purists in, the running purists 1182 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,280 in. Now the robot. 1183 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,280 Brings you is your Jake Paul. That's what brings you novelty. 1184 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,560 That's what brings you kids. That guy, the guy's racing a 1185 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,240 robot. I want to watch that. 1186 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,440 That's what brings the part timers who would never normally 1187 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,880 sit down and might not know who Elliot Kipchoge is. 1188 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,440 They're going. This guy's racing. 1189 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,400 Oh, he's the best. He's racing a robot. 1190 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,120 He's running. Oh wow, I want to watch this. 1191 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,120 Can you ask, can you outlast the robot? 1192 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,560 Like, Can you imagine he's the robot's just like it. 1193 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,840 It never falters. It's just one pace. 1194 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,840 It's a perfect pacer. It's not going to change pace. 1195 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,160 It's just going to. It's just can it's battery last? 1196 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,520 I will if if we're going to make this thing happen. 1197 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,080 What I want the robot to be able to do, though, is to be able to 1198 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,760 eyeball Kipchoge. I want the robot to be able to 1199 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:51,480 pull the Usain Bolt as they enter the final kilometre and be 1200 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,480 eyeballing Elliot. Kipcho mate, they can make his 1201 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,920 head spin back with this is you know. 1202 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,520 Anyway, but the point is, robots are going to race humans this 1203 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,800 year in 1/2 marathon. I can't wait to see it and I 1204 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,760 just hope that if they eventually teach them to run 1205 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:10,200 full marathons that they get the 26.2 sticker tattooed on the on 1206 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,880 the robot's leg. Oh yes, yes. 1207 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,960 Well, while we're talking about complete and utter just nonsense 1208 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,720 here, left field one, have you ever thought about building your 1209 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,840 house with Lego? Yes, I have. 1210 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,840 You have. OK, I've got kids. 1211 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:28,720 I've got Lego. You've. 1212 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,120 Thought about it. You've thought about it. 1213 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:34,120 So there is a company that is. Where are they from? 1214 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:37,840 If it's Lego, it's probably Denmark. 1215 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,960 Yeah, I'm, I'm tipping this could be a Scandinavian company, 1216 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,200 but they've literally got kit houses now and they're oversized 1217 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,480 Lego blocks. You, you can just put, you know, 1218 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,760 literally buy the kit of the home you want and build it 1219 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,120 yourself. And it's all, it's not plug and 1220 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,760 play, is it? What do you call that when you 1221 01:01:54,760 --> 01:02:00,640 put a click click and play click and click click? 1222 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,120 And collect. No, it's, it's, it's the, it's 1223 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,680 a, it's bricks. It's locking bricks a la Lego. 1224 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:10,720 If I this is the perfect like if you've got you know, I consider 1225 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:16,520 myself ever done a trade, can tinker with bikes a little bit 1226 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,200 here and there. But if you asked me to do some 1227 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,600 carpentry, I'm gonna it's gonna be a bit of a stretch. 1228 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,040 I like this. Yeah, I, I'll, I'll, it's a nice 1229 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,120 idea. I'd be, I'd want to see, I'd 1230 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,840 want somebody who knows what they're doing to tell me that 1231 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,440 this is structurally sound. I'd want like, I'd want this to 1232 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:36,480 hold up. I don't know that big. 1233 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,160 This big storm came through the Gold Coast last weekend and I 1234 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,000 went for a run on that border trail the next day and this 1235 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,040 storm took down some bloody big gum trees. 1236 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:52,040 I don't look at this video and go, yeah, that'll stand up in 70 1237 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,560 kilometre an hour winds. This doesn't it doesn't fill me 1238 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,120 with confidence from a structural. 1239 01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,360 Perspective. I'd be happy to chance it 1240 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,200 because I'm I'm thinking this is going to save you a lot of 1241 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,880 money. No, I don't reckon. 1242 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,560 OK, All right. I value my family. 1243 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,920 All right, from the from the left field to even more 1244 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,040 stupidity. Good. 1245 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:15,240 Where are we going now? Do you think power tool racing 1246 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:16,280 should be an Olympic? Sport. 1247 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,840 No, I don't. I haven't even seen this. 1248 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,960 What? What are you talking about? 1249 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,360 Power tool racing. Tool racing, so Sanders. 1250 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,760 So you normally you you have a Sander and it kind of gets away 1251 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,600 from you sometimes and it's running a bit quick. 1252 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,360 Put a little makeshift seat on it and plug it in. 1253 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,160 Just like cockroach races. Yep, sanding races. 1254 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,080 No, no. This is move on, look, move on 1255 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,960 though. What I would say is this should 1256 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:49,800 be part of the timber sports. That's where this should be, not 1257 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,360 Olympics, but at the timber sports. 1258 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,320 That's where you find your way in there and you have your 1259 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,360 designated. It's a bit like the cocks in the 1260 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,400 rowing when you got all the big powerful athletes actually 1261 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,000 rowing the boat. Then you got the cocks at the 1262 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,960 front telling them to stroke, stroke, stroke, stroke. 1263 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,480 That's where you put in the timber sports. 1264 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,000 There's the big blokes with the chainsaws, the big blokes with 1265 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,160 the sores and then you have your little whippet. 1266 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:11,760 On the Sander. On the Sander. 1267 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,720 Jeez, you could heard of you make a mistake running across 1268 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,680 the ground on that. All right, what do we got? 1269 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:25,680 I'm going to ask for your expert translation or like, Oh yeah. 1270 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,600 Oh, OK. Yeah, the the race or Flambo, 1271 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,880 Yes, yeah, so race to Flambo. Now this is 1 you got to see in 1272 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,080 pictures, but it's literally I think it's doing the rounds at 1273 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:43,000 the moment on the net. Everyone in the race has a now 1274 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,320 I'm gonna think what what, what? What do you call it? 1275 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,280 Flaming torch? It's a torch. 1276 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,880 It's like Indiana Jones style. It's. 1277 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,760 Exactly the perfect description if you think of an Indiana Jones 1278 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,480 movie. When he goes into any dark 1279 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,480 space, he picks up a stick and then the end's on fire. 1280 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,240 That's what these people are running with. 400 people in this 1281 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,880 race all have one of them to begin the race. 1282 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,600 It's a nocturnal race, it's an urban trail race over 18K so in 1283 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,680 the city obviously goes into some trails. 450 metre elevation 1284 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,400 gain. So it's a serious race. 1285 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,160 What I don't know is do they have to keep the stick on fire 1286 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,680 for the whole race to win this surely? 1287 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,240 I'm not sure, but I'm all in for this. 1288 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,800 I love this. The other thing I love that. 1289 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,040 Would be a challenge to you. Like, you've got to think of it 1290 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:34,520 this way, you have to finish the race before the Wick burns out. 1291 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,480 Yeah, or the fuel, whatever the. Fuel if you've got. 1292 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,680 Some on the on the your porch. Gasoline, whatever's in there. 1293 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,800 I love, the other thing I love about this is in a world where 1294 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,760 we can no longer in, in Australia, which is a country 1295 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,760 where I think we've gone too far on making things safe. 1296 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,640 This is a dangerous race. This is a dangerous There's an 1297 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:57,920 element of danger to this. Race. 1298 01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,880 So this is in Belgium. I just saw the back. 1299 01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:01,480 End of the of the and they're crazy. 1300 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,560 Yeah, well, have you seen their cyclocross? 1301 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,920 They're nuts. They they think like we think 1302 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,280 bike riding, we've got to have a criteria. 1303 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,160 The criterium course has got some, you know, bumps in it. 1304 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:16,080 They literally just pick out the most muddy trail put put hurdles 1305 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,440 in the middle of it, whatever their cycle cost. 1306 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,520 Racing is just another level and no wonder they can handle bikes. 1307 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,040 So I like the idea that in this race there's a little bit of 1308 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:25,360 danger to it. It's still, you still got to be 1309 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,560 able to run. There's also a danger element 1310 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,880 because everyone Ranger is carrying a burning stick. 1311 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,680 Yeah, I'm. I'm on board with that. 1312 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:32,440 I like it. Yeah. 1313 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,920 Now you touched on Contiki a bit earlier on. 1314 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,560 Now I'll play the first bit of this clip because I know we're 1315 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,720 we're getting a bit on on time. But you I think you sent this to 1316 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,520 me, right. It's around the need for having 1317 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,000 a third. It's a different way of looking 1318 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,320 of why run clubs are trending and stuff. 1319 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,520 So I'll play, I'll play the first bit of the clip. 1320 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,480 Can we talk about how everyone is obsessed with third spaces 1321 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,040 this year? If you're not aware, having a 1322 01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,760 third space is something different than work or home. 1323 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,480 So like a coffee shop, a gym? I think this is more than a 1324 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,840 trend. This is that post pandemic 1325 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,960 collective craving for. Look, that's enough because I 1326 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,280 don't, I don't want to hear all the rest of the time, but what, 1327 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,360 what It's just someone saying, right, They're marketing, right? 1328 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,480 They're putting in a different space. 1329 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,440 That's it. Hey, the reason all this is 1330 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,760 trending is people want a third space outside of their home and 1331 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:25,160 their work and everything else. And run clubs represent that I 1332 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,120 think at the moment for a lot of people. 1333 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,600 It's what it's what's motivating people to go to the run. 1334 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,280 Club that's right. And I think we'll start you talk 1335 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,960 about you think it the trend of the stickers of the half 1336 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,200 marathon and the the marathon stickers and tattoos might catch 1337 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,720 on. I think this is something we'll 1338 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,840 see. I think this is marketing for 1339 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:48,280 brands in the run space, in the athletic space will start to 1340 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,840 head to this direction where rather than just having a 1341 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,360 physical bricks and mortar shop front where they sell their 1342 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:58,440 product, it then merges into a space where Yep, you can buy 1343 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,400 stuff, but you can also work, sit and do your work. 1344 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,440 You can also have a coffee. You can also just be. 1345 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,120 It's where you'll start your runs from. 1346 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,640 I think I could see that sort of a concept store starting in if 1347 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,720 it doesn't already exist, and it may do, but if it doesn't 1348 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,279 already exist, I can see one of those starting in Australia this 1349 01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:18,840 year. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it exists 1350 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,399 in some shape or form, probably not perfectly like that. 1351 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,640 I wouldn't want to be the one taking the risk on the 1352 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,680 investment to start that though. A brand like LSD is the exact 1353 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,279 sort of brand I could see. Who's already got a business 1354 01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:33,520 venture and can it's an it's an add on. 1355 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,080 Right. It's an add on, but I could see 1356 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:41,120 an LSKD store not even store an LSKD space opening up LSKD run 1357 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,200 space, which is they've got their bricks and mortar stores 1358 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:45,960 where you can go and buy their products. 1359 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,279 But now this is a place where their run clubs will start out 1360 01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:51,600 of. You can buy their stuff there if 1361 01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,160 you want, but you can also sit down for the day and have a 1362 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,359 coffee. Some people might work remotely 1363 01:08:56,359 --> 01:09:00,319 from there. It's that barley vibe brought to 1364 01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:02,479 Australia. Well, unfortunately cycling are 1365 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,600 ahead of the game here because this exists in cycling. 1366 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,359 Does it? Yep, brick and mortar store from 1367 01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:12,120 the brand has a cafe, group shop rides, meet there and then 1368 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,840 you've got the coffee, right? At the same spot. 1369 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,560 There you go. Well then it's definitely going 1370 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,359 to happen. There's my prediction for 1371 01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:18,760 Australia in this. Year, that's one of your 1372 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,920 predictions for this year and then that was off the back of 1373 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,160 earlier on. We're talking about, you know, 1374 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:26,439 this whole third space and travel and yeah, Contiki yeah, 1375 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:30,000 jumped on the waggon and showing their. 1376 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,920 Run well, they're partnered, they're partnered and I like 1377 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,439 this as well. They're partnered with Unfit 1378 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,880 Running, which is a Brisbane I started up running club. 1379 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:37,760 He's an. Australian. 1380 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,040 OK, yeah, I've didn't do my research on this. 1381 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:48,520 Unfit running I'm pretty sure is a Brisbane. 1382 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,920 I'm just looking. Born Run Club which I ran with 1383 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,920 the first time I I moved, when I moved up here, I, I went out and 1384 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:02,120 ran with these guys once in Brisbane and I can't remember 1385 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,000 the apologies because I can't remember the name of the fella 1386 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:10,120 who I met who started this. But what the way this run group 1387 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,760 started and apologies to any unfit run club members that if I 1388 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,800 do get some of this wrong, my understanding is they started 1389 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,920 during COVID and what they did was that they started as a way 1390 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,400 to support local business. So it was actually a benevolent 1391 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:27,440 agenda which was that we are going to finish these runs at a 1392 01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:31,960 local cafe, a different a changing local cafe to support 1393 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,040 them. So we will bring you X amount of 1394 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,000 business at the end of each run. We'll buy your beer. 1395 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,760 We'll buy your. Coffee, coffee, whatever it is a 1396 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:41,480 Yep, we're getting a run out of it. 1397 01:10:41,480 --> 01:10:44,120 And they're never it's not an elite run club, it's not a high 1398 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,640 performance run club, It's a social run club. 1399 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,400 And now they've continued it. They run on the Gold Coast, they 1400 01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,200 run on Brisbane. Their Instagram tells me they 1401 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,840 also run in Sydney as well. I can see on their Instagram 1402 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,480 they were down at your at the burly swim run. 1403 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:04,320 So there and and now they have partnered with Contiki to it's 1404 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,760 official. We've partnered with the travel 1405 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,720 agents Kentucky to launch their new run club trips in Europe. 1406 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:13,160 So now Kentucky will be running tour packages through Europe 1407 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,600 that have running components built into the programme. 1408 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,280 Run and party. Well, I suppose they're probably 1409 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:20,640 not. Do you? 1410 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,600 Do they still party? I I fully imagine they still 1411 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,840 party. Kentucky by it's very natural. 1412 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,920 Yeah, Kentucky by it's very natural as a business is about 1413 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,720 fun and celebration and partying. 1414 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,320 Yeah, yeah, whilst travelling. And now they're just adding a 1415 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,200 run element to it and I I think it'll work. 1416 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,840 I think it's very popular run the world is what it's called. 1417 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,000 So good luck to them. How good, how good. 1418 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,200 Here we go. How long we going? 1419 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,720 We're going to be done. Yeah, let's let's been a good 1420 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,240 air. It's been a a lot of a lot of 1421 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:56,520 interesting. Now, as now, please, if you've 1422 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,960 got more running specific questions, send them in because 1423 01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:02,840 I will fire them at this man who has that much elite experience. 1424 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:04,600 We always love it when the people get involved with 1425 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,280 questions directly. So send them all in. 1426 01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:08,520 And as we mentioned a bit earlier on, there's some fun 1427 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,680 things happening and building around in the beginning. 1428 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,560 There's some stuff in the works. Courtney's bringing his, all his 1429 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,760 experience to this and I'm just dancing out the front. 1430 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,200 So we're, we're hoping to have some really fun things to 1431 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,840 announce soon. But until then, stay tuned and 1432 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:24,520 we'll see you next. Week. 1433 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:25,320 See you next week.