1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,080 In the beginning episode 41, we're coming, we're getting 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,200 close to a year we are it'll be 5050. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,640 I mean, getting there, we're getting there, but 52 episodes 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,200 and we're. And we haven't missed one. 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,280 I know. It's been pretty good so far. 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,600 Dedication. Hey, can we start off with the 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,080 marathon thing? I know we, we in the beginning 8 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:21,120 runs the Gold Coast Marathon, the series, but I want to bring 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,800 this outside the marathon for a moment that that series. 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,200 I got a text message from a friend of mine, Matt, who's 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,320 coming up from Adelaide to run the marathon, and he said, you 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,600 guys doing an episode on pacing strategies? 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,960 Yes. Now I feel like we've kind of 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:43,040 covered it off, not in a direct fashion, like because by this 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,040 stage of a training block, I feel like most people have 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,440 figured out their pace. But I wrote back to him and I 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,840 just want you to feel free to amend. 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,600 Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is what I wrote back. 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,320 I said don't start too fast, stay steady till 32 kilometres, 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,840 empty the tank at 41. That was my pacing strategy. 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,640 That's your. Strategy, you know, it's funny, 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,120 like I, I reckon for pay if you're in groups who are running 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,680 marathon and running the marathon at the moment, that is 24 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,880 probably one of the biggest topics you talk about day to 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,360 day. What do you mean so? 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,520 So have you been prepping for this? 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,040 Have you been? Properly prepping for a, not 28 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,000 just Gold Coast marathon, any marathon, one of the discussions 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,120 you have everyday is what, what can I run and what pace am I 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,840 going to set out and can I run that? 31 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,680 So a good example is my brother and his mates and they're all, 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,440 you know, got their, you know, goals. 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,040 They want to beat each other and race. 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,840 But in the end, the time that you go is going to be who ends 35 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,920 up winning. So can I run under 2 like sub 36 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,400 240? You've actually got to think 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,040 about it. Even if you even split that, you 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,040 have to run out at a pace that's a set pace. 39 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,240 And if that's too quick, then you're going to blow up and the 40 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,320 whole kind of race against your mates goes out the door, you're 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,000 going to lose. So do you, you know, go out at 42 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,280 like a pace that you maybe thinks a little bit too quick, 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,240 but at the risk of then really blowing up? 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,600 Or do you go conservative? But then you've actually, if you 45 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,160 go conservative, you've got no short of getting that goal time 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,840 you really want. So if you put it in the context 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,560 of where you were going with the three hour mark, if you split 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,040 that three hour in half, what do you need to go through halfway 49 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,160 in? But your tentative as to can I 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,160 actually do that without? If it goes wrong, I'm gonna 51 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,160 really shit's gonna hit the fan. So 'cause every day they're 52 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,840 discussing this every day. What can he run? 53 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,720 What can she run? What do you reckon pays? 54 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:45,760 I'm on and it's tough. So the, and so you reckon, well, 55 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,440 you know, they, they, they're still talking about this, this 56 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:49,560 close to the Gold Coast Marathon. 57 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,840 Oh. It, it, it's going to be a 58 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:57,760 continual, it's, it's a mind, literally a mind fuck right 59 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,880 where they're literally going. I want to run this pace. 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,960 I think I'm about here, but there's a risk in going that 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,440 little bit harder that isn't going to pay off. 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,120 Will I take so that we're talking about a risk versus 63 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,400 reward strategy here? Well, I can see that play out. 64 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,280 All right, Matt, listen up to this episode. 65 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,880 We're talking risk V reward. Here, Risk V What? 66 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,080 Are you prepared to risk for the reward you're chasing? 67 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,360 I actually spoke to him about this when because he was showing 68 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,880 me his his sort of 30K runs that he'd been putting. 69 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,960 He's like, I'm feeling great at the end of this and I've sort of 70 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,840 said great, it's good you're feeling great at the end of 71 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,160 that. It shows that when you get to 72 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,520 the marathon day at that pace, you can you've got something to 73 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,560 give when you hit that stage of the race and he was tossing up. 74 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,720 Oh, but if exactly what you're talking about the risk for your 75 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,320 reward thing in my mind, and I know I'm not running this 76 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,160 marathon, but marathon's moving forward in past races as well, I 77 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:56,760 haven't had that. I've never had that ongoing 78 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,600 long, I guess debate in my own head or out loud discussion 79 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,800 about timings. Because I think, for example, 80 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,680 the most recent race that I've done where I had a time in mind 81 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,520 was the half marathon in Adelaide last year in September. 82 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,800 And I said I want to run a sub 90 minute half marathon. 83 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:21,920 I simply plugged a pace plan into my Garmin watch, told it I 84 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,840 wanted to negative split, not in a not a big negative split, a 85 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:29,800 gradual negative split. It gave me the times and I ran 86 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,120 to that like it was not, it wasn't a risk free reward thing. 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,120 I'm like, I want to run. I set it at 1:29 to buy myself a 88 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,400 minute of gap. Yep. 89 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,440 And then I ran to the pace. There wasn't a constant eye. 90 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,080 If I run a bit harder, can I go a bit fast? 91 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,120 It was just no. Here's the time objective. 92 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,880 Let's input what's needed to achieve that. 93 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,920 Yeah, no, I, I, I get that, but I do believe, and that's one 94 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,480 way. But how do you know that time or 95 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,120 that strategy is the right strategy? 96 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,920 So if you're out there doing long, you know, long sessions 97 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,960 each week and you're starting to get to know your body really 98 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,680 well. And there's a point, right, that 99 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,720 you're running some type of threshold run or in within a 100 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,440 longer run. And you're around that raised 101 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,760 pace. And, you know, in your 102 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,480 breathing, you know, in your heart rate, you know, when 103 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,920 you've crossed that line and you're like, I can't go any 104 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,960 faster, you're redlining. Well, not even redlining, but 105 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,160 going redlining in the sense of marathoning pace where you're 106 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,120 like, I can't hold this for this. 107 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,760 I can't continually hold this. Yeah. 108 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:32,000 At that point, you have a pace and then in your head, you know, 109 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,840 realistically, if I go above that pace and nothing's going to 110 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:37,200 change in the race, I'm going to be in trouble. 111 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,200 But I want more. And do I, do I take the risk 112 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:48,720 that, you know, new shoes, race conditions, tapered, fresh? 113 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,840 Do I have that pace a few seconds a kilometre so I can get 114 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:58,000 under that goal time? Do I do I risk that or do I take 115 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,720 the safe bet and run the pace I know I can do in training and 116 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,600 see if I can bring it home? I know I'm going to test your 117 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,440 memory because I know it's not great, but do you recall at any 118 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,600 stage during your professional career and having one of those 119 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,800 moments, having one of those pushing beyond knowing knowingly 120 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,360 in a race going, this is I'm I've passed that point now. 121 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,000 All the time. A lot, but not from a, Probably 122 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,240 not from a like a, a time strategy, A lot of pacing 123 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,880 strategy. I would do that on a like a 124 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,160 competitive strategy. So like I'd be trying to hang on 125 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,480 to someone a pack. Like I might want to be hanging 126 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,240 on to a pack to not lose contact. 127 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,720 Even though you knew, you were, you were. 128 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,480 Even though I knew on that day this is above me and you know, 129 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:50,760 the outcome will be better if I just back off now and and manage 130 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,080 my pace. But I always had this notion of 131 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,080 like I'm in it for I'm in it to win it. 132 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,320 I wanna, you know, like I'll put all the risk on the line to try 133 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,800 and get that reward of staying there. 134 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,600 You know might change and never did by. 135 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,760 The way and. Never did. 136 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,120 So there's the lesson, the, the, the, the risk versus reward. 137 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,760 It doesn't pay off. It really rarely pays off. 138 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,960 But I know those who are listening to us. 139 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,640 I know there's a lot of people. I was running yesterday with a 140 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,360 group having the same discussion. 141 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,840 You know, oh can I, can I go that? 142 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,320 Can I do this? Can I do that? 143 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,480 What I can also guarantee is the people listening to this who are 144 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,480 not at your level are closer to my level, maybe slower or 145 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,280 whatever. Some of them, because we've got 146 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,800 the monkey brain, still think, Oh yeah, but I'm different. 147 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,920 No, no, no, I can push it. I'll be at it. 148 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,800 It might have. Courtney mightn't have got the 149 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,960 reward for the risk, but I will. Yeah, well, there's, there's 150 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,640 optimism, yeah, Yeah, there's optimism. 151 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,320 And you know what? You, you've, you've got to be in 152 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,600 like, you know, they say you've got to be in it to win it, but. 153 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,760 Which is because, and again, to reference the the marathon 154 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,560 series that we've been doing, Bronte doesn't have that. 155 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Bronte is very much being the Bonita, tell me what to run. 156 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,520 I'm not going to extend myself here. 157 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,840 I don't want to over risk for the reward sort of thing. 158 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,760 Well, she's come round to that. But remember in the early days 159 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,360 she'd run out and she'd go way too fast. 160 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,160 That's true. She would, she'd put it. 161 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:27,160 Hey, there's also, I've seen, I've had plenty of conversations 162 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,920 with people doing both triathlons and marathons who 163 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,440 have a plan in their head and they're gonna stick to it. 164 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:38,400 They know their pace and that goes out the door very quickly, 165 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,280 especially when mates are involved and you're racing 166 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,760 someone and they go down the road and they've gone out on a 167 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,920 pace quick, quicker than they said they would. 168 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,720 Hey, you know Liam, me, me and you were racing and I've said 169 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,480 I'm on a three hour strategy, I need to run this and then 170 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,600 suddenly you're with me, I'm on it too, we're going to do this 171 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,200 together. And then suddenly I run out, get 172 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,880 a bit excited and I'm on a like a 250 strategy. 173 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,200 What do you do then? This bear with me here for a 174 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,840 second. I've got a half baked idea 175 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,280 brewing in my mind because what you just talked about the idea 176 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:17,280 of racing mates. Is it possible or could is there 177 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,320 a way that as a race director, when you when when you put your 178 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,160 entry in for news or marathons or anything like that, they 179 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,360 always ask for why you're racing dah, dah dah and they ask about 180 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,400 they're looking for information. They're obviously trying to fuel 181 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,080 their database and all the rest of it, but is there I wonder if 182 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,800 there's some way, whether it be on your race bib or whether it 183 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,640 be. I'm just trying to the idea that 184 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,640 if if I'm running along and somehow, some way the spectators 185 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,800 can see that I'm racing. So my mate. 186 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,520 So literally on your bib you have like Matt verse? 187 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,040 Yeah, or Matt Verse. Yeah, it's. 188 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,200 It's like a declaration of your, you know, this is for the people 189 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,000 that are not going to win the race, but they've got a race 190 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,120 within the race which is them versus their mate. 191 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,640 There's a lot of races within this race, yes. 192 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,280 There, that's the thing. More so than trying to win only 193 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,560 you only get one. There's only a. 194 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,120 Winner. Yes, but you get a lot of 195 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,280 winners versus their mate. There's only ever 1 winner of a 196 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:22,400 race but in these big participation races there's so 197 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:28,080 many other way City to Surf will have so many winners of mates 198 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,520 racing mates. Have you had any? 199 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:33,960 Have you had a mate verse mates verse mates race and and what's 200 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,280 the best prize or outcome of that? 201 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,840 Have you got one? Can I tell you this? 202 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,480 I I love that we're here and I love that I can guarantee that 203 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,720 people running along listening are already going back to the 204 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,680 bet or the the bet the bet or the race they've made against 205 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:50,800 him bet. So here quick story. 206 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,440 My brother in law is my is my race mate. 207 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:57,720 My brother in law, Shane, my wife's brother is the guy that 208 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,040 we I race with. OK. 209 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,960 And we have a it's a back and forth thing. 210 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,280 Shane's not at at his fittest right now, but he's a couple 211 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:11,640 years younger than me. So we he's got the all time best 212 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,640 Noosa triathlon time out of the two of us. 213 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,320 I've got the best marathon time, I've also got the best city to 214 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,440 surf time. We, we had this incredible 12 215 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,760 month race mates race bet where it was basically, I don't even 216 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,440 think we had any money or prizing on it. 217 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,800 It was pride, right? And the agreement was that year 218 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:36,000 it was City to surf, it was Noosa Triathlon and it was best 219 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,200 park run time. So you had the 12 months we were 220 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,200 both entered in city to Surf and Noosa. 221 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,800 Now he beat me in Noosa. He's a really good cyclist and 222 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,440 he's a much better swimmer than I am too. 223 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:49,800 So he beat me at Noosa, I beat him at City to surf comfortably. 224 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:51,960 So then it came down to the park run. 225 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,240 Now we had you had 12 months to register your park runtime. 226 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:58,880 I was coming up here for this is when we still lived in Sydney. 227 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,240 I was coming up here for Christmas and we drove up and we 228 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,520 came through Tamworth and Tamworth had a park run. 229 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,160 Now I hadn't to that date really registered the park runtime. 230 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:13,560 So I think, I think I in fact, yeah, I had not registered the 231 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:15,320 park run time. I think Shane had registered 232 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,360 something like a 21 minute. I went out at Tamworth Park Run 233 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,920 and ran a sub 20 park run. I didn't have my barcode with 234 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,160 me. So I get up here like basically 235 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,400 it's Christmas, I've got six days left to register a time. 236 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:34,840 And I said to Shane, Oh yeah, I did a sub 20 at park run in 237 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,080 Tamworth. He's like accepted. 238 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,200 He's like, well, it doesn't count. 239 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,440 You haven't registered your time. 240 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,960 So on New Year's Eve, oh sorry, New Year's Day, there's a Kira 241 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,560 Park run. There's a big one down at. 242 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,800 Kira in the country. There's a big one down at Kira 243 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,920 and I said to Shane, I'm like, well, look, Will, will you agree 244 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,480 that if I run a better time on New Year's Day, this counts. 245 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,560 He's like, Yep, we can both go out and run it. 246 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:01,520 And it's basically became it set itself up to become a match race 247 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,000 on New Year's Day. Shane and I down at Kira. 248 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:14,120 I ran A19101915 for me great running Shane DNF D how do? 249 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,400 You DNF for 5K, what happened? Yeah, because he because he knew 250 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,320 it was, it was risky reward, it was all guts or glory. 251 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,440 It was DNF, it was DNS, it was death or glory. 252 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,640 He's like, I have to, I have to stay with him. 253 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,560 And so he came out and sat with me and three KS and he's like, 254 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:33,840 I'm done. Yeah. 255 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,320 So yeah. So to your point, Pride mates 256 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,120 race. I wanna know what are some of 257 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,360 the best, if anyone's out there, what are the best bets or the 258 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,440 wins you've had punishment against mates. 259 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:46,480 Yeah, like, well, I wouldn't go as far as tattoos, but like, who 260 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,560 knows, maybe. I'm sure there's some pretty 261 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:50,600 decent. If, if you've, if you've had 262 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:56,600 race bets with mates, race mates race bets, MRBS, if you had an 263 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:01,000 MRB that's worth us sharing. Send it in audio message, slide 264 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,360 it into the DMS, tell us all about it. 265 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,120 I'd love to share some MRBS with people with the In the Beginning 266 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,480 podcast family. That's a good one. 267 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,760 Yep. Now I don't know, remember what 268 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,040 were we talking about that led us to that? 269 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,760 God knows I see running's hit mainstream. 270 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,920 That's what I'm looking at. Proof that running has hit 271 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,560 mainstream. You know what it? 272 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:21,760 Is for the fifth time we've said this movie. 273 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,800 No, no, no. But this is another level of 274 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,280 main server level. Yep, Marathons are now being 275 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,760 targeted by scammers. OK, so this has just come out 276 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,480 and this is about the Gold Coast Marathon. 277 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Gold Coast. Because the Gold Coast Marathon, 278 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,480 the resale, the resale market is now being, people are now being 279 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,600 scammed into thinking they're purchasing A resold marathon 280 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,640 ticket. So this has happened. 281 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,160 This is the AB. Where have you found? 282 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,800 This the AB CS published this story. 283 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,920 There's a woman by the name of Jess Lapella or Jess Iapella. 284 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,960 She went to buy a resale ticket to the sold out Gold Coast half 285 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,520 marathon she thought was she saw a bunch of things she asked 286 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,640 about it on Facebook. She received numbers of offers 287 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,880 offering her to sell her one. She found what she thought was a 288 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:15,080 genuine 1 and she transferred half the money via pay ID, but 289 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,600 no ticket. So she's kissed goodbye to 100 290 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,040 bucks like that because she was, you know, and this is what I 291 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,080 this is the idea of mainstream, right? 292 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,400 These marathon races, these half marathons, these triathons, 293 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,200 whatever, all these, these things selling out so quickly 294 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,600 with such popularity, it creates this resale market. 295 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,880 And it's something music festivals have already gone 296 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,480 through and concerts and gigs where people want to chase it 297 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:43,200 after it's sold out. And now I and now what? 298 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,680 The Gold Coast Marathon has come out and said events management 299 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:46,760 Queensland, they're doing the right thing. 300 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,640 They they've provided a platform, a portal saying 301 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,200 transfer only do it through this. 302 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,480 This is the only way you can really safely get an entry if 303 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,680 you don't already have one or if you're not on the wait list. 304 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,560 But it's just interesting to note that the scamming world has 305 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,840 now turned their attention to the running world. 306 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,760 I wonder, so when you transfer, do you set a price or it's just 307 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,520 like a transfer fee because they can do they control? 308 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,200 It well, here's what I understand and, and don't take 309 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,760 my word for this, but I believe when you go through the official 310 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,560 transfer portal, it's done at ticket value, ticket value. 311 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,400 So there's no, which I also really like because you 312 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,480 shouldn't be able to profit in the sense of what I call price 313 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,320 gouging. I don't. 314 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,640 I would hate to see price gouging come into these races, 315 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,360 people going up and snapping up all the entries and then trying 316 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,880 to resell them at profit. I don't think that's what it's 317 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,720 that I wouldn't like to see that in the world. 318 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,800 I. Had a few fair few mates send me 319 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,720 some screenshots and missing out on the Mel Melbourne London 320 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,920 Marathon. Yeah, the ballot. 321 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,040 Just literally a screenshot. Sorry. 322 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,800 You didn't make the ballot. You didn't make the ballot. 323 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,920 Well, you didn't get in the ballot, so yeah. 324 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,520 Tough luck. But then it's yeah. 325 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,400 So it's a case of. So I'm just thinking if 326 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,600 someone's got in the ballot and they're like, oh, now knowing 327 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,079 that, see my spot on the ballot, knowing that there's, you know, 328 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:08,040 there was, however, did we say a million? 329 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,839 Oh. Yeah, the London Marathon. 330 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:12,319 London Marathon, yeah, like that many people wanting to do it, 331 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:15,720 you know, hopefully they don't allow for like upsells. 332 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,560 Would you? Hopefully, what would you think 333 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,160 of the London Marathon if they suddenly ran it twice a year? 334 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,560 Diminishes it, does it? Yes, yeah, yeah, No, it just 335 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,560 popped into my head, the idea that if something's got, if the 336 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,200 demand is to a point for the London Marathon and these other 337 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:38,120 majors where it is that big, if it was on twice a year, would it 338 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:40,800 be as good? But then you don't get the it's 339 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,760 not that I mean that that's what ceremony, but isn't that what 340 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,960 drives demand as well? Isn't that what is partially 341 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,680 driving this whole scenario at the moment? 342 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,520 Once things start selling out, there's more want. 343 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,320 You want what you can't have. Yeah. 344 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,200 So once things start selling out, you've got to get in 345 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,120 earlier the next year. But I really want to do it next 346 00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:03,400 year because I'm missing out on something. 347 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,480 There's this, there's AI believe. 348 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,000 Anyway, there's a cycle effect to this whole thing. 349 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,440 We're getting into your marketing brand. 350 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,440 Once you once you create. Yeah, you could go and create, 351 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,480 you know, more of them, but then does that actually for a while 352 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,960 it might work, but then that does it actually decrease demand 353 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,760 because once you've given everyone the opportunity to do 354 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,240 it, yeah, you need repeat customers coming in. 355 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,320 We talk, this is a little bit about what we talked with Pete 356 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,120 about from Salomon about the idea of specialness and coolness 357 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:35,360 and the shoes and the way that that brand has managed to retain 358 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:37,320 it's cool factor. Have I told you about the Gold 359 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,200 Coast Suns pink jumper? So the Gold Coast the the the 360 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,280 pink jumper that they introduced this year, the pink range was 361 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,560 awesome. Gold Coast lost its mind for it. 362 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,280 Two biggest retail days in the club's history was when they 363 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,360 dropped the pink merch on their website. 364 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,040 Now I had a conversation with some people at the club about 365 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,560 this is such a cool look. Why don't you just make this 366 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,120 your clash jumper? Because for those that don't 367 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:02,920 follow AFL, most teams have a clash or all teams except 368 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,640 Collingwood have a clash because they're so important. 369 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Now all teams have a all teams have a clash jumper. 370 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,720 So to avoid colour clashes when they play away against certain 371 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,400 things. Really interesting comment. 372 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,840 The idea of, yeah, we could do that, but does it stop being 373 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,080 cool if suddenly if we're playing in this clash jumper 374 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,200 every other week or with this pink jumper every other week, is 375 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,760 it still special? The other thing with these sell 376 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,400 outs like this, how many do they sell? 377 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,400 And not just, I'm not going to pick on Gold Coast Suns here, 378 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,440 but just in general you see these like a line of merch and 379 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,480 it's sold out. Yeah, it creates great demand. 380 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,840 But did you sell ten of them or did you sell 100,000 of them? 381 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,680 It's like the with the line out the front right when there's 382 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,160 nobody inside. The sell out it's it's all 383 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,480 depending on how many you. Sold, right How many did you get 384 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,440 made? Because if I've made ten of 385 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,360 these and I sell them sold out, I'm. 386 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,400 Sure, they made a few more than 10 anyway. 387 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,400 I think to circle back to where they started, if you're looking 388 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,400 to gain entry into race and you don't, you weren't able to 389 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,960 manage to buy a ticket through the original sale. 390 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,160 Find the official portal. Yeah, don't risk it, because the 391 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,920 scammers have turned their eyes on the world of running, which 392 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,560 means it's ruined, which means it's ruined. 393 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,200 Now I've got a question for you, Liam. 394 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,320 Is your ring finger. I'm not doing the finger to you. 395 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,400 Is your ring finger longer than your index finger? 396 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,440 Your index is your pointer, right? 397 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,560 That's your index. Finger, I'm going to say my 398 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,600 indexes. Well, yeah, what are? 399 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,280 We your point finger. That's your pointing finger, 400 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,600 yes. And your ring finger? 401 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,520 The Four. Is the the one? 402 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,200 Yeah, the next the pinky? Yes, it is substantially too. 403 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,200 What do you got? This is sorry we just stopped 404 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,760 talking for a second as. If you're watching on Spotify. 405 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,200 Video. You'll understand what we're 406 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,080 doing. The ultimate podcasting scene, 407 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:01,080 which was to stop talking. Yeah, my, my ring fingers are 408 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,680 oh, jeez, I've got some real ring fingers. 409 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,040 I've got some real inflexibility. 410 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,920 Your ring finger is taller than your. 411 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:11,000 Yeah, holy, by a lot opposite. Now, this is it 'cause I know 412 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,720 where you're going with this, all right? 413 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,560 And this is fascinating. So this is in. 414 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:21,440 So what we've got here is my index is taller than my ring 415 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,400 finger and Liam's the opposite. The other way around, so. 416 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,320 It's indicative of a person's ability to run marathons, cycle 417 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,920 long distances, and generally perform in insurance sports. 418 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,440 Now here's for the test. I'm going to go to the next 419 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,600 slide because I actually haven't looked at which way it goes. 420 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,600 Well, so, OK, so here, before you read that, you would think 421 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:50,000 based on the test, if this is meant to indicate your 422 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,280 capability to run marathons and ride long distances, based on 423 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,960 your fingers and my fingers and based on your athletic prowess 424 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,640 and my athletic prowess, yes, it should measure out that if your 425 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,600 index finger is longer than your ring finger, that's a good sign 426 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,520 for marathon running and bike riding. 427 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,280 OK, so you're they found, so this is a study done down in Uni 428 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,160 SA by PhD candidate Bethany Gower. 429 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:21,920 She's been on the National ABC Radio and it found that you are 430 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:27,000 more likely to tolerate longer duration activities if your ring 431 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,840 finger is longer than your index finger. 432 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,240 And we we just debunk that we are the complete, we are the 433 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,720 exception to the rule. So this is going nowhere because 434 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,520 that is not what I mean. You can run a marathon too. 435 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,320 I. Can not as well as you. 436 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,600 In this In this class of 2. I so I think you're the 437 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,400 exception then, or you're the exception because Yep, my ring 438 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,080 is longer than my index. My ring finger is longer than my 439 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,120 index finger. Definitely both of them same. 440 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:02,200 Yeah, substantially. Yeah, it's my so my index finger 441 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,640 is definitely longer than. I'm sorry. 442 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,400 My ring finger is longer than my index finger and I can run and I 443 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,200 can write. Someone asked what what? 444 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,480 What does it mean if the ring finger on one hand short about 445 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,480 the other ones and vice versa? It's different. 446 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,240 Means you've you've really stuff probably chopped off a It's all 447 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,520 about. Circulatory and respiratory 448 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,760 systems ability to supply oxygen to the working muscles during 449 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,040 sustained physical exercise. I'm calling bullshit. 450 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,960 Yeah, I I think that PHG. I actually thought that was 451 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,040 going 100% the other way then because I hadn't. 452 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,200 I hadn't bothered. A few people sent that in and 453 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,440 thought we'd be interested in that. 454 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaking of things you might dispute, I had a really 455 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,520 interesting massage experience the other day. 456 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,040 Not going what you think, get your mind out of the gutter. 457 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,600 So I I've obviously with the calf injury with what I went 458 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,520 through, Gold Coast physio, awesome. 459 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,000 Britt, Liam, the whole team there, Trent have been great. 460 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,320 Now that I know I'm not running the marathon, I've kind of gone, 461 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,400 I've just pulled back on the physio, right? 462 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,600 And at my level of running per KS per week, I probably don't 463 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,000 really need to be hitting up the physio. 464 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,760 Once I start to up the case again, I will be going to see 465 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,120 Trent to get needles stuck in because that really works on my 466 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:19,480 releasing my calves. So I will be back team. 467 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,520 But I've also been back at the gym a little bit and just doing 468 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,560 some bit of weights. I had a bit of that lethargy in 469 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,320 the body, just an overall bit of soreness. 470 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,960 I'm I'm going to put myself in a massage. 471 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,680 So I went to rigged recovery in Palm Beach. 472 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,040 You ever been there? No, so rig's recovery is one of 473 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,640 like, is it P the PB three or something? 474 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,560 There's another it's one of these these places are booming 475 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,960 the the health space in these hot and cold plunges. 476 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,400 There's a few of them going on. There's lots going around. 477 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,280 I went to Rig's now just because it was near my place and they 478 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,600 had an available slot. Got now a massage and it turns 479 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,960 out that the person doing the massage, she and I competed the 480 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,920 same year of Red Bull defines. Right. 481 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,320 She was at Red Bull. Define Emma. 482 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,120 Emma. Now Emma was awesome because I 483 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:11,960 walked out of this massage. Not only was she, it was just 484 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,880 really good. She just she hit all the trouble 485 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,240 spots I've got like you can see the cupping. 486 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,200 Marks. And yeah, I've had cupping done 487 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,560 the work. So I've had, it was a bit of an 488 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,920 overall tune up for the body. But this was the thing I wanted 489 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,280 to bring up with you because she was asking about and she runs 490 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,160 trails and she runs 100K races. And so we are having a bit of 491 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,800 chat about everything. But it was she, it was almost 492 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,960 like a therapy as well as physio for me. 493 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,200 And I really enjoyed it and it was great. 494 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,360 And I'll definitely be going back. 495 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:40,320 But the thing that I wanted to bring up with you because she 496 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,640 asked about the calf problems and how it was going and I was 497 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,000 explaining everything I'd gone through and, and what it caused 498 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,360 it led into and all the rest of that. 499 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,920 And then she asked me, she's like, can I also give you my 500 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,000 thoughts? And she said, I think that maybe 501 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,280 the calf is representative of you not fully committing to 502 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,360 something in life. Is there something in around 503 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:04,680 your work life that might be So there she brought in this, I 504 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,800 know, very deep and it was and it, it's seriously like I was 505 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,560 thankfully I was lying down 'cause it sat me down. 506 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,160 I was like, I was fine. Maybe is there something in my 507 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,920 work life that I'm not fully committing to? 508 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,240 Are are my calf problems? If I didn't have enough problems 509 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,200 in my calf and now like and now I need to go and see a 510 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,160 psychologist as well my. Calves, I said, Emma, I've got 511 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,440 that many professionals committed to these damn calves. 512 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,080 Now I need to. But it was really because I 513 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,520 hadn't thought that there might be something mental. 514 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:43,160 Well, I'm a big believer that stress contributes to issues in 515 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,440 the body. Like when you go through a 516 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,000 stressful period, whether that's something at work or whether 517 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,560 that's something with the family or whatever it is, it can be a 518 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,560 moldable. A lot of things. 519 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,720 You feel it in the body physically worse than actually 520 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,840 going out and doing something physical to affect your body. 521 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,640 I think the stress of what that puts on your body and how it 522 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,000 affects it is worse than the actual physical nature. 523 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,200 I. Guess that makes sense. 524 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,520 I, I like, I can feel it sometimes, whether it's your 525 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,400 heart rates up, whether it's just lethargic, whether it's 526 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,000 motivation, all of those things are quite I, I don't know how it 527 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,120 all works around like a psychology point of view, but I 528 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:23,720 just know that's what happens in practise, That is what happens. 529 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,280 I'm actually, that was the other thing and I'm basically taking 530 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,560 you into my massage team. But she said as she was working 531 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,160 that shoulder, she also said it feels like you need to exhale. 532 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,040 And so I breathe that she goes, no, no, no. 533 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,040 It feels like generally you need to exhale a bit. 534 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,120 And I was like, oh. Do they offer breath courses at 535 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:42,640 their? I think she, I think she sounds 536 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,080 like she could. She was amazing. 537 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,920 She was fantastic. Coincidence that she'd done Red 538 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,720 Bull defines. Like, did you just totally walk 539 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,920 in there? I booked it online. 540 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,880 I booked it online at Riggs 'cause I knew they offered 541 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,640 massage there. Completely random. 542 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,360 We started talking about during the whole thing. 543 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,360 She was, I was, she said I'm a runner as well and we're talking 544 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:01,720 about races and all the rest of that. 545 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,360 And I said, I I had the conversation with her that you 546 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:09,280 and I had on the last step about that moment you would go back 547 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,920 to, to experience all over again. 548 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,400 I said at Red Bull Defiance, she said, I did Red Bull defiance. 549 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,520 She said what year? She said, oh, the year was 550 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,160 really stormy. I'm like, we couldn't battle out 551 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,040 to the arm. We're like same year. 552 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,760 Wow. It was an amazing coincidence. 553 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,040 She was amazing. But the massage was great. 554 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,880 And I do the, the my hips. I'm so it's all so tight through 555 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,040 everywhere. Have you ever had your SOAS 556 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,880 released? Oh yeah, I've never had that 557 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,240 before. That's one of my more. 558 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,560 It's painful, but one of the more enjoyable things. 559 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,360 Jeez, I. Didn't know where your SO as was 560 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,920 and I do now. That hurts. 561 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:47,560 So talk about solaces. I went into Sea Trent last week. 562 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,880 I did you I my excuse of not getting a rub for the last 563 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,360 however long. It's just I just. 564 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,480 You don't like them? No. 565 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,040 Well, it's not only not not like them, like I had good intentions 566 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,360 of going in and getting some work done. 567 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,920 MMM. However, it's just about every 568 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,960 time I went to make an appointment, it was like the 569 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,960 days didn't line up, the time didn't line up. 570 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,840 And then the next week came. Anyway, Doctor Ben rang me. 571 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,480 I drove out of the street and he's flashing me with his lights 572 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,920 and I said what are you up to? And he's like, I'm going in to 573 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,960 see the physio. Actually go and see Britt. 574 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,040 Yep, who we had on in the Gold Coast Marathon series around the 575 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,320 physio and then get him rubbed after he and the next message I 576 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,400 get is I've got your appointment at 12:30. 577 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,120 Oh, he's so I've got a. New personal assistant. 578 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,880 He locked me in. So I turned up and I saw, met, 579 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,600 met Trent #1. Great filler. 580 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,440 But that's where I come on, Solace is he got in and it was 581 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,800 like, it was, I'm tired and it was great to get in there. 582 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,960 But it just, it put me back. Like when you talk about 583 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,320 memories, it put me straight back on the massage table over 584 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,920 in France where I'd spend a lot of my time racing with our 585 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,000 Australian masseurs. And just the memory of 586 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,800 different, different hands just literally locked in as far as I 587 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,960 can into that area of my lower pit of my stomach across there. 588 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,800 And it's painful, but it used to be one of the most effective 589 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,880 things I'd get done. What? 590 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,560 So what did it do for you in terms of loosening things up and 591 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,880 unlocking? Stuff, Well, that would be the 592 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,400 release for my hips. But because I was because I 593 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,640 would ride obviously in triathlon, we were you're riding 594 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,160 your bike. So you're literally closing your 595 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,520 hip angle. Yes. 596 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,200 And then so you and you as you're loading up with that 597 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,720 closed hip angle, you if you're not strong enough through the 598 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,480 solace, you're tightening up through that area. 599 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,960 And then the next thing you gotta do is then stretch out and 600 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,480 effectively have length in the solace and strength to be able 601 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,440 to then have, you know, like to be able to kick through when 602 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,200 you're running. Yes. 603 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,560 So that was the challenge of triathlon. 604 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,160 OK, We are used to get awfully tight solaces. 605 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,640 If anybody out there is listening to this and you don't 606 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:56,120 know what your solace is, basically grab a hold of just 607 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,160 above your hip, around your stomach if you're like me, where 608 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,040 your love handles are, and then go in about a couple of inches 609 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,240 and then just go internal, Just just just. 610 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,080 Fine, tight bands in there and you're you're probably gonna. 611 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,240 But and then I challenge you all, next time, if you do have a 612 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,640 massage schedule, just say to them, hey, just show me where my 613 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,280 size is. Show me what you'd have to do to 614 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,600 get my size. It was. 615 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,840 It was an I there. Was a little bit of a badge of 616 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,360 honour. Like how how much could you 617 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,320 handle when I was back when I was obviously right when full 618 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,880 time, when that was like, you know, day to day massage, it was 619 00:31:31,881 --> 00:31:34,000 like how far can you get in there? 620 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,480 Could you mind if we jump into the bike world for a moment? 621 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,960 Bike world for a moment? I don't have this on the run 622 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,440 sheet in front of you, but I I'm going to adjust the names to 623 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,840 protect people because I'm not I haven't exactly cleared this 624 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,640 story for podcasting. OK, so where do you stand on 625 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,480 buying bikes off Facebook Marketplace? 626 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,680 I'm OK with it. What? 627 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,200 What would you guard people against buying bikes on 628 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,000 marketplace? Well, you don't know the history 629 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,040 of the bike. That's number one. 630 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,920 I I'll be to be transparent. Yeah, I would have never have 631 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,400 thought of buying a road bike or a mountain bike off of 632 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,080 Marketplace. But I do look at dirt bikes. 633 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,080 So like motorbikes. Sure, sure, sure. 634 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,040 And that's where I'd look at Marketplace. 635 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:30,520 So this is 'cause I am with with Gold Coast Marathon now being in 636 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,280 my rearview mirror from a participation standpoint, I now 637 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,000 my athletic schedule turns its attention to Noosa. 638 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,760 Good. Did someone ask this question? 639 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,960 What about bikes? Buying a bike? 640 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,240 No. So we had this question. 641 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,320 What? Yes. 642 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,960 I haven't had time to actually get into all. 643 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,440 Oh really? Someone said I'm running. 644 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,640 I think it was 1/2 marathon or running a marathon and then my 645 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,720 next goal is to do a half Iron Man. 646 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,160 Oh. Yes, I think I saw. 647 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,200 Can you give us some advice on buying a bike I'm. 648 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,440 Going to find this because someone did ask that question. 649 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,680 As you as you're looking for it, I'll jump in around this 650 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,920 Facebook thing. I think with bikes, there's one 651 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,160 thing with bikes is top end gear costs a lot of money, but it 652 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,960 doesn't give you a lot of extra, you know, bang for your buck in 653 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,760 the sense of performance. So if you're a Tour de Franche 654 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,080 rider and you're riding up the hill and it's white, you know, 655 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,800 strength to weight ratio and all of that going on, yes, maybe the 656 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,840 top end stuff of having like the best of the best makes a 657 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,080 difference. Hey, if you can afford it, go 658 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,720 for it. But with bikes, middle of the 659 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,280 range equipment makes the most sense for bang for your buck. 660 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,840 I've learnt this more so like more in the mountain bike world 661 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,040 since I've purchased a couple of my own bikes in the more recent 662 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,240 years. I will always go for mid range. 663 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,200 No, I don't go for the top end anymore for that exact reason. 664 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,000 Like it's just not worth the bang for buck. 665 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,080 And often the wear on that equipment in the middle of the 666 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,680 range components, yeah, actually wears a lot better. 667 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,600 Like you get more longevity out of it. 668 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,719 BJ Platts Now this is BJ who said told us to stay out of 669 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,800 ourselves. He came with remember he came 670 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,320 with the alpha. He said. 671 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,239 Gentlemen after the GC marathon is over I would like to look at 672 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,920 1/2 or 4 Iron Man. Question is what entry level 673 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,600 bike would you recommend I for info BJ and I'll let Courtney 674 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,320 give an answer. On the bike front, I I've only 675 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:35,520 ever had one road bike. I bought it in 2014 before my 676 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,560 first Noosa triathlon. I bought it off someone that my 677 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,000 wife worked with. It's too big for me and I've 678 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,440 still had it for 10 years, but it's a Cannondale CAD 9 or 679 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,960 something. I paid $1500 for it at the time 680 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,840 and it was relatively new. This guy was moving overseas. 681 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,920 He just wanted to get rid of it and it's been it's been great of 682 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,640 it's been done the job bro. And it's always and as much as 683 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,440 I've always kind of looked at more expensive bikes. 684 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:11,960 Spot Anderson, Sydney legend has always said a me on a $50 bike 685 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,040 with a 50 pair of aero bars will be what was it? 686 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,080 It was something like it's the legs, not the bike. 687 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,800 You know, it's the idea is like these days. 688 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,400 Though I'm going to challenge that a little bit because the 689 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,120 right bike these days with the Arrow and where they've come, 690 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,400 where they've got to in technology, the right bike with 691 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,240 the wrong legs still may beat. So for a. 692 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:37,720 Really, really old school bike in the wrong position with 693 00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:39,800 brilliant legs. So for someone like BJ who's 694 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,800 looking at going into it, Yep, first time, what, where, where 695 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,480 did he start? Well, he's talking about Half 696 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,640 Iron Man. So I mean, if you want to race 697 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,360 triathlons and you're only gonna have one bike, ideally, you 698 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,160 probably you you will want to get some type of aero bike that 699 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,160 you can time trial on if that's your goal to try and go as good 700 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,600 as you can. But hey, if your goal is more so 701 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,280 just to finish it and you want to be as comfortable as possible 702 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,400 and you're going to be riding day to day, then maybe just a 703 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,080 normal road bike still might suffice for you. 704 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,920 And then you you just put on clip ONS onto it, right. 705 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,840 It's a, it's a, let's say, a cheaper way to go as well, like 706 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,080 a more cost effective option, much cheaper, but you're not 707 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,520 going to get the same performance out of that in 708 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,720 triathlon that you would do if you got yourself in the right 709 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:25,280 position on a time trial. Bike. 710 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,200 Now, as far as actually like with brands of brands, 711 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,520 everyone's going to be individual on what you like, but 712 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,920 I think when you look at different bikes out there and 713 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,680 you're making decisions, it's like shoes. 714 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,560 Go and actually feel a bike. Yeah, yeah, go and actually, you 715 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,640 know, go and see what you got physically because there's, you 716 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,760 know, bikes like Canyon now are completely like order online. 717 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,760 They rock up at your house pretty much. 718 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,000 You can build them and go yeah, but you're not going to get the 719 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:59,600 same service doing that or the same Peace of Mind that if you 720 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,560 went into a shop and they show you it all they're doing like, 721 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,040 you know, they do the one month tune up and everything like 722 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,360 that. Now I'm talking about new bikes 723 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,800 there. The question came around. 724 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,720 Facebook bikes. Yes, this is a decision on 725 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,800 savings and what you're willing to part with. 726 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,600 That's my that's how I look at it. 727 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,200 So like there is AI reckon there's a threshold and it's 728 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,160 risk reward. Again, it's risk and reward. 729 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,200 Yep, there's a threshold that I'm saving this much by buying 730 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,880 this bike on Facebook, but I don't know the history of it. 731 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,840 Yep, don't know what's happened to it. 732 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,280 And if I've got enough saving, it's probably worth the risk. 733 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,320 OK. If you're not saving much. 734 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,720 Go and go, go and get, go and get how feels good, Peace of 735 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:43,400 Mind worth. So just one tip I will have is 736 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,840 then if someone is out there looking to upgrade a bike or buy 737 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,560 a bike, now's not a bad time to look because it's the end of 738 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,240 triathlon season. So end of year sales. 739 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,520 End of year sales, but also this is triathlon seasons when the 740 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,720 serious people or the people that might look to take the 741 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:05,840 hobby from beginner to advanced, they upgrade their bike and 742 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,720 they're looking to off road offload last season's bike. 743 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,200 Yeah, that first bike they had. The reason this came up is 744 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,000 because a friend of mine who is he's actually signed up. 745 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,800 I think he's just signed up for Western Sydney half Iron Man. 746 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,800 He's better to do his first. He's done news for a bunch of 747 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,120 years. He's done a few multi day ride 748 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,800 things down in Tassie and stuff, but he's looking to upgrade. 749 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,680 He's looking to upgrade his bike and he jumped on Facebook 750 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:36,840 marketplace and he found a bike that on paper was not too good 751 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,720 to be true, but certainly cheaper. 752 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,520 It was a good deal, right? He was making the savings and 753 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,200 his his friend advised him, He said, we'll jump on Strava, see 754 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,800 if he can find the seller on Strava. 755 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,200 Oh, good, cool. And see how much it's been 756 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,000 written. See how many KS this thing has 757 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,840 done because obviously the people say, oh lightly used 758 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,080 heavily, you know, so see, there's a there's an easy trick. 759 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,000 See if you can find the seller on Strava and actually see how 760 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,560 many kilometres they've put through this thing. 761 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,120 That's a great call. It's a good trick, right? 762 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,760 And it also revealed something because my friend found that 763 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:21,080 this bike, the person selling this bike happens to be related 764 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:28,000 to a very, very, very, very, very wealthy Australian, right? 765 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,200 Like we're talking rich list Australian, right? 766 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,520 So he's found out that, oh, this is someone who's comes from a 767 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,240 bit of cash. And the deduction he's made is 768 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:41,560 that this person with all their cash has bought something top of 769 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,320 the line checking. Strava has shown they have 770 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,200 written it. Yeah, not much, very little. 771 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,800 And they've kind of gone. I don't need that anymore. 772 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,240 So not only is it lightly used, but it's also heavily discounted 773 00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:58,480 because money is not that important to the seller. 774 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,200 They don't need to be trying to regain every cent that they paid 775 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,560 for. This teaches you to do your 776 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,080 homework. Right, done their homework now 777 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,240 done their homework. So he saw he's he's bought the 778 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:11,520 bike, but once he's figured out the wealth. 779 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,240 Yep. He then just casually said, hey 780 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:18,920 look, if you got any because I'll tell you, this guy, this 781 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,040 person, this seller sold the bike at the rate which was cheap 782 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,240 for the bike and didn't even disclose the fact that there was 783 00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:30,200 a power metre on it, didn't include that in the price. 784 00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:33,360 Just. Clearly just oblivious to the 785 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,400 fact that that was because another. 786 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,120 Thing it's that it was that top end range of a bike that just 787 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,200 came with a power metre. Yeah, so, but then my friend 788 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,400 said to him, hey, look, if you've got any other cycling 789 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,280 stuff that you're gonna get rid of, let me know. 790 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,640 This person has written back. Oh, I've actually got a bunch of 791 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,120 cycling clothes that you can just have Oh, so now and he's 792 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,800 waiting to pick it up so. This guy's the the seller's, 793 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,800 obviously. Gone or what? 794 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,200 He's out, he's out, he's out. I want to for buying for buying 795 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,560 bikes on Facebook marketplace Czech Strava. 796 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,360 Yeah, that's a good. I love that one. 797 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,520 Czech Strava And if you can find someone who looks like they're 798 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,440 giving up on the sport entirely, fleece them. 799 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,680 I do the same thing with with one of because I've been looking 800 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,960 at a motorbikes at the moment and some of them you see like 801 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,600 with numbers on. So you think have they been 802 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,560 raced or have they just being used out on a property and the 803 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,720 same thing. I'll go look at the name and see 804 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:31,720 if you can find them on Instagram and go what are they 805 00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:34,320 doing on this bike? Yeah, I feel you find a few you 806 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,200 don't, but it's a good gauge. Just like have you raced it? 807 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,400 Nah, Yeah. Well mate, come on. 808 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,120 Yeah. Really, 'cause there's your 809 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,440 motive, you on the podium. Why? 810 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:47,320 Why are you 50 foot in the air on that bike? 811 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,600 Here have you been on the your bike I. 812 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,120 Haven't been lately and I'm not going to for the moment. 813 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,040 That's like away away a little bit in the next month. 814 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,080 I wanted to follow up on something this is a couple of 815 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,720 weeks old very quickly Mick fanning charity golf day. 816 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,640 Oh yeah, I never I haven't actually told the the in the 817 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,560 beginning podcast. Tell me about this experience. 818 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,320 You've played in it before having I've. 819 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,440 Played in it a few years you've. Played in the first one, 820 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,520 possibly because this was year 4. 821 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,400 This year, I think, really, yeah, the floods were that long 822 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,120 ago. Yeah, Wow. 823 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,560 And I, I vaguely recall seeing you at one of these things. 824 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,360 I. Definitely played one maybe. 825 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,720 Possibly 2. In fact, you did because you met 826 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,080 Dill Buckley. Yep. 827 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,120 Dill Buckley is actually coming up here to run the Gold Coast 828 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,160 Half Marathon. Yeah, right. 829 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,280 With Lululemon this year. Yeah, I've been trying to reach 830 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,000 out to him and get him around the podcast, but. 831 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,520 No, we don't Not talking about anyone anymore. 832 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,360 We're getting on. Stop. 833 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,800 I would. No, no, no. 834 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,400 I wanted to say, though, next year, Mick Fanning, I know 835 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,600 you're listening. We need you. 836 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,720 We need you back at the golf day. 837 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,560 We need you back at the golf day. 838 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,040 We need to get back on that golf day. 839 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:53,920 So I do in on. You right, You're doing Red Bull 840 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,200 Race the Sun. Oh yeah. 841 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,400 You're a bit busy. I had my hands full. 842 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,760 You're a bit busy, but I was lucky enough to get involved 843 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,160 with it. That is one of the great. 844 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,120 You talk about event organisation, you talk about 845 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,680 putting experiences together. That is an. 846 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,280 Experience, they go, the brands go all in, don't they? 847 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,120 And. That's the other living, which 848 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,640 is you would know more about this than I would because what 849 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,960 you do with Red Bull. But when the brands are allowed 850 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:27,200 to essentially not work without any restrictions but really 851 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,520 express who they are as a brand, I feel like you get more buying. 852 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,640 Because Mick's general rule is if you either all the money goes 853 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,600 to charity is that if you pay for the whole, whether you get 854 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,960 to actually. What you want there you do. 855 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,440 What you want, Yeah. And that's how you end up with 856 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,120 people getting tattoos and haircuts and BMX riders doing 857 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,200 backflips and people getting fireball shot through into their 858 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,840 mouths from super suckers. Yeah, it seems like it's 859 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,200 escalated over the years, you know, and that's a great thing 860 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,120 when you get, you get brands, you know, really buying into 861 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,240 something like that where then they've got to evolve, right? 862 00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:02,080 Because it he still got what is there because he played two. 863 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,080 There's 36 holes, right? There's 36 holes. 864 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,360 I think this year there was only four holes without activation so 865 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,040 close to. Over 30 brands all trying to 866 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,000 outdo each other and these are brands who obviously majority of 867 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,960 them are involved either personal relationships or 868 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,640 companies and like minded type people. 869 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,200 And I guess to take it back to, and I'll be interested, really 870 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,600 interested to see the Gold Coast Marathon Expo this year because 871 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,320 I think we're starting to see, we saw at the London Marathon 872 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,560 all the clips and pictures and all the brands trying to outdo 873 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,680 one another with campaigns, the viral campaigns. 874 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,280 Do you know one of the best ones I saw about this type of thing 875 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,600 was gym Shark the other day. So at high rocks, I'm not sure 876 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,000 it was the high rocks world champs. 877 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,080 It was a high rocks in London, but they set up what they called 878 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,800 a laundry. And the idea was when you finish 879 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:57,280 high rocks, you get a, what do you call a like a patch? 880 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,160 Like a patch you could sew onto a hat. 881 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,160 They give you a patch to say you finished high rocks, right? 882 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,360 But what do you do with a patch? So Gym Shark worked out well. 883 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,520 We'll create the space that we will. 884 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,480 You come to us and we'll sew the patch onto something. 885 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,960 For you. I've just found it, yeah. 886 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,520 In some type of like in the way they've obviously activated. 887 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,600 It was a laundry mat and there was other things in there, but 888 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,720 the premise was go there. The reason to go there was to go 889 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,240 and get this patch put on clothing. 890 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:28,160 I'm assuming they're selling their own clothing if you want 891 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,760 to put it on their clothing too, but I thought that was one of 892 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,640 the better ones. I just brought it up, the Gym 893 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,920 Shack laundrette or laundrette 'cause it was in London. 894 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,760 The gym shack laundrette popped up at Horrock London. 895 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,280 Run the race, earn the badge, claim the hoodie. 896 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,560 So you turned up with your patch and there is these people with 897 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,280 sewing machines sewing it on to your hoodie. 898 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,760 It's got a purpose, but it's also a great space to go with. 899 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,640 So that's clever. That's really thinking outside 900 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,360 the box, that one. The other one that was good, I 901 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,880 think it was London Marathon, was they had the one of the 902 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:04,600 drink brands, the hydration brand had the Bowsers. 903 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,200 Yes, you go and fill. Like literally you want energy, 904 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,800 you go and fill it up by the petrol Vowser. 905 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,880 It was it was, it wasn't precision, but someone like 906 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,440 that. It was just a it was like a 907 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,640 sports drink style small sport drink. 908 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,880 Brand that was good too. So pure sport, pure pure sport 909 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,720 did the the petrol pumps. Yeah, and that was another one 910 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:28,680 that like, you know, it's hard to stand out these days. 911 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,160 It really is. There's so much going on, even 912 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,840 Gold Coast of Have you started to see on the Gold Coast 913 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:38,920 Marathon, the the run Club slash cafes on the Gold Coast and all 914 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,320 the branding and everyone, you know, even that is competitive 915 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,000 in itself because there's so many run clubs who want to do 916 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,560 something with a, you know, activate with a running shoe 917 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,560 brand and then they need a space to do it. 918 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,800 So this is driving all this competition within each other. 919 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,560 And I mean might get 50 people there and I don't know how it 920 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,560 really. Do you reckon I know we're 921 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,720 drifting into Gold Coast Marathon territory? 922 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:05,200 Again, apologies if you're one of the person, someone out there 923 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,280 that oh, bad luck if you're not coming to the if. 924 00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:09,360 You're not coming to the gold. Coast bad luck? 925 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,760 Do you think the exhibition centre is the right place for it 926 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,920 still for the Expo? Oh jeez, I hadn't even thought 927 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,280 about that. What I mean is we live in a 928 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,200 place that and the marathon on the Gold Coast, It's it's sunny, 929 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,600 it's bright, it's outdoors, right? 930 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,000 Is there a better space? Like, do they, should they be 931 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,560 taking over hotter? Should they be? 932 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,000 You know, should they? The problem with hotter public 933 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,320 transport, it's a paint the reason Broadbeach works so good 934 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,640 not just for the Expo but just in general having the convention 935 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,400 centre on the Gold Coast there yeah, you get the G link down 936 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,120 you if you know a lot of people will be staying in Broadbeach. 937 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,080 Yep high activity hub it's just easy and it's a big space it's 938 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,240 made for it. I reckon it's. 939 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,560 No, no, no, you're right. And This is why, hey, This is 940 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,160 why it works. You're the event planner. 941 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,960 I'm just come up with these half brand ideas, but I want in fact, 942 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,080 everybody out there that's running the Gold Coast Marathon 943 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,480 year, that's listening to this. I know that they submit, they 944 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,520 ask you to submit feedback after your race. 945 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,160 You always get that email that says a chance to win an entry 946 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,280 into next year's race. Give us your feedback. 947 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,320 I if it's not there this year, and my guess is it won't be 948 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,360 because I only came up with the idea 3 weeks ago. 949 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,720 I want everybody who's listening to this say that you want the 950 00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:27,240 halfway house. Say that you want the hometown 951 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:30,840 house at the turn at Miami. Say next year you want to see a 952 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,360 grandstand set up where people are going to be losing their 953 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,280 minds as you turn that halfway mark of the Gold Coast Marathon. 954 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,720 Let's make that happen. Let's make that a thing. 955 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,040 Yeah, that's the idea. And he and he, I. 956 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,600 Just want it would be so. Cool. 957 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,800 A party hall type hey. Ryan, Ryan McDonald Agreed. 958 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,960 It would be cool, but there's some logistical, obviously 959 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,560 organisational, logistical and operational things that need to 960 00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,240 be taken into consideration. Taught me from an event manager, 961 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:04,480 hey, I'm gonna show you a video. And so anyone, I'll put it up on 962 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:10,120 Spotify as well, but I want you to tell me what do you think 963 00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:12,360 that athlete, what sport do you think that athlete plays? 964 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,720 So this is something you explain what you're seeing like. 965 00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:17,480 So I'm looking at a, a very athletic young woman who is 966 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,840 doing is using gym equipment like I haven't seen it before. 967 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,520 She was using one of the what are the bands called? 968 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,960 Oh, I don't know, the things that the tension bands, tension 969 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,040 bands. And now she's sitting down on a 970 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,800 well, no, she's. Doing a split squat a. 971 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,440 Split squat in the air on a tension band and then she's. 972 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,080 Doing it on a. Squat on a tension band. 973 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,800 Now she's jumping from a stairmaster onto a box and 974 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,080 landing back. Now she's doing some glued. 975 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,520 Exercises. What do you think she's doing? 976 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,680 What? What sport is she coming? 977 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,640 From well, there's a soccer ball, there's a soccer. 978 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,240 Ball involved? Well, you just ruined it. 979 00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:57,760 I didn't see the soccer ball when I did it. 980 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,600 Bloody hell. So my wife showed me this. 981 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,120 There's. A soccer ball in it, Yeah. 982 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,400 I didn't. She's a soccer. 983 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,800 Player. She's a soccer player. 984 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,640 You ruin everything, Liam. There's a soccer ball in it, I. 985 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,240 Looked at this not seeing the soccer ball and when my wife 986 00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:13,840 said what have a look at this is this make sense? 987 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,680 And I went this is crazy what she's doing for social. 988 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,120 Who is she social media? Is she a soccer player? 989 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,720 Soccer player from from the Netherlands I believe. 990 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,040 Those crazy Dutch people. From the Netherlands. 991 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,160 I'm going to go through some of the comments in a minute. 992 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,160 But when I didn't see, I hadn't seen the soccer ball and I 993 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,800 looked at her and I went, what is she and I? 994 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,520 My first thought was maybe a hurdler. 995 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,400 She's doing squats standing on a rubber band in the air. 996 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,040 This is bloody. Dangerous. 997 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,480 Do you know what my guess was going to be before I saw the 998 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,120 soccer ball? Yeah. 999 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,000 Well, I was going to say, is she like a a bobsled? 1000 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,720 A bobsled. Like a explosive athlete trying 1001 00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:53,040 to push off. I also thought some type of 1002 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,680 gymnast because of like the, the, the activity. 1003 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,760 So she's in the air going on these rubber bands. 1004 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,560 What's her name? And of curiosity? 1005 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,720 Oh gosh, Courtney about to try No. 1006 00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:08,960 No, no, I've only got a. What's the Instagram handle? 1007 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:16,640 FEMKEM key, Yep. Prim Prince. 1008 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,520 M key Prince Football player. Yep. 1009 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,560 She plays for Fortuna Sitard. OK cool. 1010 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,240 Yeah, it's look, that's an interesting. 1011 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,040 Some of the comments just because you can doesn't mean you 1012 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:39,080 should. Badminton Other people are doing 1013 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,000 what I did. Starting to guess what athlete 1014 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,000 is it a badminton athlete? I have a lot of questions. 1015 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,560 I just don't know which one to ask. 1016 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,640 Look, this one though, she can do this because she is athletic. 1017 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,040 She isn't athletic because she can do this. 1018 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,720 Look at that. Say that again. 1019 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,480 She can do this. Where did it go? 1020 00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:00,080 She can do this because she is athletic. 1021 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:05,480 She isn't athletic because she can do this pretty much in. 1022 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,240 There's a lot of risk involved in what she's doing here. 1023 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,120 She's on a treadmill at one stage doing like circles, 1024 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,200 kicking a soccer ball as well. Yeah, put it up. 1025 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,920 It was very impressive. Hey, Speaking of people doing 1026 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,800 weird things and wondering if they're necessary, there's a 1027 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:26,600 French Algerian artist called Reeles. 1028 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:27,880 I'm not quite sure how to say his name. 1029 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,520 Should've just went with what you'd thought. 1030 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,560 Reeles. Let's call him Reeles anyway, he 1031 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,120 is a, he's a singer. He's an, he's an artist, right? 1032 00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:38,600 He has competed and I think this happened a few months ago but 1033 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,520 I've only just stumbled. Across This isn't the thing with 1034 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,600 the Blaze. Yes, this was a while. 1035 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:43,400 Have we? Have you? 1036 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,680 Have we talked about this though? 1037 00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:46,160 I don't think we have because it's just. 1038 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,800 It's just come up on my feet, people. 1039 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,960 Like do people send this in to you? 1040 00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:53,560 I think this was even prior to us doing the podcast. 1041 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,120 I've got a feeling this is a while ago. 1042 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,720 OK, well, I'm seeing it. I'm just. 1043 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,000 He went 24 hours on a treadmill. He ran 24 hours on a treadmill 1044 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,240 to launch his new album, Survival Without Stopping. 1045 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,320 He literally had what looks like massive big. 1046 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,920 Blades behind him. Yeah, this has only just popped 1047 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,120 into my world, so apologies for if everybody, if people are 1048 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,920 across this. I like it. 1049 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,280 I like this one. I feel like this one. 1050 00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:21,560 I respect somebody who's like we talk about Teddy swims. 1051 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,800 Yep. And the run club that he started 1052 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,240 up. Yep. 1053 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,480 Oh, no, Jelly roll. Not Teddy swims. 1054 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,080 Jelly roll Jelly Rolls Run club Jelly Roll. 1055 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,120 Yeah, these bikes run for 24 hours to launch an album. 1056 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,640 Not stopping on the treadmill, yeah. 1057 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,640 What's the longest you've run on a treadmill? 1058 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,080 Without stopping. Not 24 hours, that's. 1059 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,720 Treadmill. That's horrible. 1060 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,000 That's my idea of hell. Yeah, I mean, I think that's the 1061 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,280 purpose of it, right? Yeah. 1062 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,640 Is to put. Yeah, to make, to get people to 1063 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,640 watch you going through hell. But he didn't actually look that 1064 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,600 bad when he popped off. But he. 1065 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,800 I did see back, it was a while ago something around this, his 1066 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,160 Strava leading up to that and then for five years he built up 1067 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,240 his mileage over like, you know, 100 KA, 150 up to 200 plus. 1068 00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:07,040 So OK, it wasn't. Like he was ready to go. 1069 00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:09,040 He. Popped up one year and said hey, 1070 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,520 I'm going to do this, Yeah. Speaking of mileage, how's 1071 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,840 running going? We haven't talked about our. 1072 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,080 Own running. We don't talk about our own. 1073 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,040 What's going on? Quickly. 1074 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,320 Yeah, good. I ran over 50K last week which? 1075 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,640 It's such a silent assassin, aren't you? 1076 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,680 Just slowly you've you've come back from remember when you're 1077 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,240 walking around with crutches. Yeah, it wasn't that long ago. 1078 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,520 Yeah, no, back, back, back running. 1079 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,400 Still taking a day off here and there to manage things. 1080 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,040 But yeah, back running. I ran, I ran my first. 1081 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,560 I did 14 KR up at the Spit Tuesday so. 1082 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,000 Where's your Where's your head about running then? 1083 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:48,200 My head at the moment still just keeping just getting slowly 1084 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:53,520 building it up without causing any other problems like even not 1085 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,280 even concentrating on the hip, the bone, but just like as 1086 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,440 you're coming back and you're starting up the mileage, not 1087 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,040 getting any, you know, calf, any other niggles. 1088 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,800 So just managing it around that. I've been, I'm doing strength 1089 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,960 stuff to support all that, kind of get another massage. 1090 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,360 Have you had any phantom pain around it? 1091 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,600 Yeah, yeah, I've had a bit of, I mean, your mind always, the 1092 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,160 mind's always playing tricks on you. 1093 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,800 And because I was staying off that leg, like, I mean, 1094 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,920 literally putting no weight through that leg for a 1095 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,640 reasonably significant part of time, I I assume this muscle 1096 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,080 deterioration there. So from left to right leg, I'm 1097 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,680 gonna have to build up some more strength back on that right leg. 1098 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,000 I prefer to do it through running. 1099 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,960 Yeah. Like I prefer to load up where 1100 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,520 the activity is specific. But then I'm also aware that I, 1101 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,760 I need to add in some extra stuff to manage that outside it. 1102 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:50,160 But yeah, 50K did some fart like yesterday morning yeah, with 1103 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,720 some of the crew. I'll tell you what breathing 1104 00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:54,200 heavy. Oh yeah, I'm breathing heavy. 1105 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,040 But I'm I'm enjoying being background and I mean, that's 1106 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,960 the main thing. And we give me give me. 1107 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,800 It will take a little bit of time just to see where how 1108 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,320 quickly I come back. No rushing, but what about 1109 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:07,440 yourself? I. 1110 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,960 I was, I was down in Sydney last weekend. 1111 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,720 Oh yeah, I went down there for the Suns Giants game. 1112 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:17,800 Oh, I still can't believe they I watched the game you called so 1113 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,400 GWS versus Suns it. Was game of the year by the way, 1114 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,360 best game of football for the year? 1115 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,760 I sat there and watched it to the third quarter and then 1116 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,280 turned the TV off to go and do something else because I'm like, 1117 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,040 it's over. Nope. 1118 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,480 And it was one of. Those GWS trailed basically up 1119 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,240 until 10th minute of the final term. 1120 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,240 I was going the game with Dew Bolton down in Sydney. 1121 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,720 Former Swans champion, 300 games, premierships. 1122 00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:43,800 He's done it all. He's a legend. 1123 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:48,280 And he said to me at three quarter time he's like I reckon 1124 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,680 we got a grandstand finish coming. 1125 00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,560 He called it, He said there is a grandstand finish on the way. 1126 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,640 The Giants are just bubbling and then they came out and I think 1127 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,880 they kicked like six goals to three in the last term to win 1128 00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,640 the game. It was such an amazing game. 1129 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,440 Football devastation. It's a great one to call 1130 00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:06,760 devastation if you're a Falco Sun supporter and dimmer. 1131 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,640 Hardwick was pretty. I think he's frustrated because 1132 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,400 that's they're those games where the sons have got to take a 1133 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,360 step. If they're serious and they want 1134 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,600 to be a contender, they've got to be able to win those games 1135 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,640 and take the moments the the side's talented enough, they've 1136 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,680 matured enough to win the games they should win. 1137 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,400 But now it's about executing in those moments, is what the 1138 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,120 dimmer's talking. About I saw him flipping the 1139 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,160 bird eh at the. Well, and he's got the Fox Footy 1140 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,080 have cost him $2000 because. That's not going to take 2. 1141 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,280 It was in the literally really was like the last play of the 1142 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,600 game basically to where they didn't pay this deliberate out 1143 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,320 of bounds and dim has given the big like. 1144 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,280 In not just dimmer in this case, but like just in general sport 1145 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,360 like it's too grand a deterrent to someone who's probably being 1146 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,480 paid. No, no, yeah, it's, it's, it's, 1147 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,400 it's a symbol. It's symbolic. 1148 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,680 I actually think, I actually think to tangent for a moment, I 1149 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,840 think the AFL has a something of a problem with staging for free 1150 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,360 gigs and an exaggeration of free kicks to try and trick the 1151 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,680 umpires. Now I think the umpires AFL is 1152 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,960 one of the hardest games to officiate because the rules have 1153 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,240 so many grey areas in that it is a thankless job and I think the 1154 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,040 umpires should never be the ones who will criticise, it should be 1155 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,640 the rule makers who got criticism. 1156 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,040 Having said that, I think the AFL should come out after each 1157 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:27,040 round of football, review the tape and retroactively fine 1158 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,000 players for staging, whether they're awarded the free kick at 1159 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,080 the time or not, whether they convinced or tricked the umpire 1160 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,880 or not. The AFL should then go through 1161 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,600 with a fine tooth comb and fine players who stage. 1162 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,160 Because try and stamp it out if you keep. 1163 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,720 Turning up every Monday morning at every football club with a 1164 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,520 list of players and the amount of money they gotta pay back, 1165 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,040 they'll stop it real quick. Well. 1166 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,280 There's my question though, what's a fair fine? 1167 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,600 Because what? What would deter a player? 1168 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,720 Put it this way, 500 bucks might not seem like much at the time. 1169 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,120 1 or 500 bucks. If someone keeps on turning up 1170 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,080 to your workplace of work every Monday saying you owe me $500, 1171 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,000 you owe me $500, you owe me 5. $100, I might be talking out of 1172 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,480 school, but I'm tipping $500 to majority. 1173 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,160 Like not all of them, but a lot of the players there's going to 1174 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,920 be like. Yeah, you'd think that, but if 1175 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,520 someone turns up to your workplace every Monday asking 1176 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,840 you for $500, the little thing that you might be doing on the 1177 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,520 weekend, you might just stop doing that or $1000. 1178 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,240 I don't know what the number is that's by the. 1179 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,120 Point. That's by the point. 1180 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,280 How did we get here? What we talking about Sydney 1181 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,200 running? That's right. 1182 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,920 So. Before we move on, yes, I mean, 1183 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,200 I mean people do like it when we not everyone follows AFL, but 1184 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,280 like at the moment with State of Origin. 1185 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,680 So rugby league, different issues around riffing. 1186 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,000 So it's not the staging stuff like nothing. 1187 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,560 I'd I'd say nearly nothing staged in rugby league. 1188 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:55,040 It's just tough. But they're having is there more 1189 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,760 across both codes? Is there more talk a refereeing 1190 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:06,480 and talk around the refs impact in say the last 18 months than 1191 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,880 there has been in the past or is that just I think as it always 1192 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,480 been I. Think inevitably we always fall 1193 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,720 into conversations about the the referees around buys whatever 1194 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,920 sport it is, it's heightened at the moment in rugby league at 1195 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,520 time of recording because of the Ashley Klein performance in Game 1196 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,200 2. But there's people always find 1197 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,200 ways to blame referees and this is one of the things about 1198 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,120 sport. We are irrational when it comes 1199 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,760 to sport. When the football in particular, 1200 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:33,600 I always some of my mates because I love footy, but I'm 1201 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,880 pretty centrist because of because I call football and I 1202 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,400 have to be unbiased and centrist when I'm calling games and I'll 1203 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,640 be on my WhatsApp chats with a whole bunch of Adelaide Pro 1204 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,640 supporters who are completely irrational about their team. 1205 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,280 They are. They put absolute blinkers on 1206 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,080 and ignore the obvious. And when I respond with my 1207 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,680 centrist attitude to it, I annoy them because they want to live 1208 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,120 in sports passion. They want to live in the 1209 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:01,440 irrational. They. 1210 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,360 Want to believe it was they they want? 1211 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,640 To believe that there's a conspiracy against the Adelaide, 1212 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,520 they want to believe that. Stuff, actually, the crows are 1213 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,480 going bloody. They're going amazing. 1214 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,120 That doesn't mean there's not a conspiracy against them from all 1215 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,200 the way at the top. Corner. 1216 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,960 Oh Joe, I was in the ladder, Yes, yesterday before I messaged 1217 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,240 someone and I went, oh, I didn't realise how well the crows are. 1218 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,840 One of the great things about sport is that either we can 1219 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,280 suspend the real world but for the for the fan, not the 1220 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:32,800 participant, but for the fan. By watching sport, we get to 1221 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,080 temporarily suspend our real world and live in this fantasy 1222 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,440 world where we can make up whatever we want is about how 1223 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,000 things are going on behind the scene. 1224 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,320 How do we get here? Sydney running? 1225 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,040 That's right. I went down to Sydney for this 1226 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,680 game and I went down a day early because I wanted to catch up 1227 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,040 with Ed who I ran. I stayed with Ed who I did Red 1228 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:57,160 Bull Defiance with. Now I had my running gear and I 1229 01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,800 had the best of intentions of going for 20K15 to 20K. 1230 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,080 You're moving. Ed and I went out for what I 1231 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,320 thought was the intent was just a couple of quiet drinks and 1232 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,680 dinner catch up chat. It did not finish that way. 1233 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,160 It ended up being quite a heavy night. 1234 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,080 I saw you doing the what's the what's the Guinness? 1235 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,800 The Guinness thing trying to split the G split. 1236 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,040 The G, Yeah. Fair to say we tried that a few 1237 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:24,080 times and we did not get it right We're. 1238 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,000 Not successful. Once we were trying, we were. 1239 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,200 Committed to getting it right and we kept getting it wrong. 1240 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,800 So I haven't run for coming up on a week now time of record. 1241 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,680 But I'm actually gonna go and do a run today because the Gold 1242 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,920 Coast, the experienced Gold Coast are trying to pump up the 1243 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,360 outdoor nature of this joint and that all the things they're out 1244 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,720 to do. So we're the radio station we're 1245 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,440 trying to show people look you can go and do this on the Gold 1246 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:50,400 Coast. So I'm going to go for a run. 1247 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,400 I'm going to go for a run probably from my place head up 1248 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,800 towards snapper with people. No, I just by myself and do a 1249 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,120 little video that you then use on all their socials. 1250 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,960 Yeah, nice. Go and get into some of those 1251 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,000 crumb and trails. Or is that are they kind of like 1252 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,560 grey? I'm not as talented as you at 1253 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,600 capturing trails. You're very good at making the 1254 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:16,560 trails look appealing to people. I'm I look more like The Blair 1255 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,240 Witch Project when I try. And you've got to teach me how 1256 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,120 to do trail videography better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1257 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,200 Well, I mean, I gave you the camera and the stabilisation 1258 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,640 does half, you know, there was a time like probably when I first 1259 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:32,480 started capturing, when I first left triathlon and moved into, 1260 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,680 you know, a lot of the brands. Like, I mean, my kind of, I 1261 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:41,160 suppose foot in the door to that space of adventure came for when 1262 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:45,880 I partnered with Kathmandu and went over to race coast to 1263 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,400 coast. But before that I actually just 1264 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,440 filmed some adventure stuff and it's like always just being 1265 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,720 quite natural to me. And obviously I'm very 1266 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,120 comfortable in while I'm exercising. 1267 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,560 It's not like I'm, you know, breathe in, you've got all those 1268 01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,560 other things that you've got to deal with, right? 1269 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:03,320 You know, in those environments I, I reckon I'm pretty 1270 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:04,880 comfortable. But that was when I first 1271 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,920 started filming. But stabilisation on Go Pros 1272 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,760 didn't exist then. So it was actually, you had a 1273 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,480 bit of a point of difference because you had to be men, you 1274 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,440 had to be quite a reasonable athlete. 1275 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,720 OK, that someone's going to call me out on that. 1276 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,800 You had to be capable to be able to manage yourself in those 1277 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,160 environments really well with a camera to have it stable enough 1278 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:26,520 to be able to show people. Yeah. 1279 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,280 Now the stabilisation on all of these toys is so good. 1280 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,920 You can literally be running around with the arms swinging 1281 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,560 around and you see it with even iPhones and the stabilisation on 1282 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,440 iPhones, that competitive advantage went out the door. 1283 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,000 So there's no excuse, Liam, you get the right. 1284 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,120 There is no excuse for anyone to have shaky footage. 1285 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,200 And I think, you know, like the trending, you see some of the 1286 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,560 trending run footage from some of the on when I say on brands, 1287 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,840 not on themselves, but you know, satisfy row, whoever we talk 1288 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,360 about or even the run clubs. Yeah. 1289 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,080 And there's all this, there's a shakiness to all the footage. 1290 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,440 I actually think that in part is gone that way because everyone 1291 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,160 can take such stable footage now with stabilisers. 1292 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,040 So there's zagging whenever else is zigging. 1293 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,800 Go back the other way and make it look really intense. 1294 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,960 So my style of filming is back on brand. 1295 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,240 Done the right way, I wouldn't go that far, but done the right 1296 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,200 way. Hey, before I wanted one more 1297 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,040 thing. Yes, last night I got on Prime 1298 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,080 and watched the breaking for doco. 1299 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,000 Faith keep, Yogon. 'Cause we had heaps of 1300 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,440 questions. Where can you talk about the 1301 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,560 clothing? Can you talk about the shoes and 1302 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:30,680 all? And to be honest, I haven't a 1303 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:34,240 time to research at all but watch the was a 51 minute doco 1304 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,680 now at timer. Sorry at time that you'll be 1305 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,640 listening to this. So if this comes out Saturday 1306 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,240 morning, the record attempt for the sub four would have 1307 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,320 happened. So it's on July I'm seeing this. 1308 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:51,280 If I'm correct, it's gonna be live on prime June the 20. 6th 1309 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,320 Yep, that's this weekend. No, that's Friday. 1310 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:54,760 Today, Tomorrow. Yesterday. 1311 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,920 Yeah, right. June the 26th. 1312 01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,840 No. So June that's it's gonna be 1313 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,920 available June the. 27th at 10:00 AM So that's Saturday 1314 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,720 morning, our time. Yeah. 10:00 AM No Friday 1315 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,400 morning. Friday morning, June the 27th at 1316 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:16,120 10 AM on Prime, OK, 4 minute mile live attempt. 1317 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,320 So we'll know the result by the time you're listening to this. 1318 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,960 But what I did listen to last night, like is it was a great 1319 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,560 dock they went through around the clothing. 1320 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,520 Two things I took out of it that's in the attempt. 1321 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,280 The shoe stuff, they didn't really give that in much 1322 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,920 information on the shoe side of it. 1323 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,280 Yeah, they're lightening up the shoe and a few things. 1324 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,680 But no, the technology, they didn't give a little information 1325 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,440 on the clothing. However, the technology in the 1326 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:47,880 clothing is to do with drag, so they've got dimples on the 1327 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,640 clothing. So think of the old masua shoes, 1328 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:52,880 yes, you know, the masseur sandals. 1329 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,440 We all remember the dimples on that, that the little smaller 1330 01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,240 knobs than that across the clothing in certain spots, which 1331 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:04,840 is to enable how the air flows around it and affect the drag. 1332 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,720 So that's where they've gone with the clothing. 1333 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,160 From anyone who was wondering why she's got this special 1334 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,760 stuff, I've seen a lot of like the, the, the on socials, 1335 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,160 they're showing how it's knitted and all of that type of thing. 1336 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,960 I think that's all a lot of just yeah, yeah, it all looks great 1337 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,080 on camera, but it's the drag and the dimples that are going to 1338 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,720 make the difference and then how the paces are going to run 1339 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,840 around us. So they've got men. 1340 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,240 Well, from what they showed on the show, they've got men 1341 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,800 running around who are 800 capable runners, 800 metre 1342 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,840 runners, so very fast capable runners. 1343 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,520 And what they're looking at is because in the two hour attempt, 1344 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,760 obviously it's a little bit more simple around draught, around 1345 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,840 aerodynamics and putting like it's like birds flying. 1346 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,360 Yes, you just want everybody to shelter when you're going 1347 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,040 around. As a track though, it gets a 1348 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,440 little bit more complicated because. 1349 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,240 You can't have someone running inside or. 1350 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,640 Can't have someone running inside and you've got to do the 1351 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,880 bends. So that person on the outside 1352 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:01,760 has to speed up more than the person on the inside. 1353 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,040 So they were showing some of the formations of here's the optimal 1354 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,640 formation for being able to like give her the best wind break. 1355 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,320 What I found really interesting was where they were positioning 1356 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:16,439 themselves was the lead runner is actually giving more space 1357 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,439 than the rear runners. So the rear runners coming up 1358 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,600 behind her have to be right tighter to be able to manage the 1359 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,160 blocking, you know, creating that air pocket for her. 1360 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,880 And then how they do that on a track will make all the 1361 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,800 difference because the outside runners of us have got to go. 1362 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,120 Like it's nearly like fart lick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1363 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,600 Would it work? Just a thought as you were 1364 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,520 talking about running the track if they like, would she not be a 1365 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,399 better chance of breaking this if they found an 800 metre long 1366 01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:45,680 like salt flat? And and and put the aerodynamics 1367 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:46,720 around her. Yeah, of course. 1368 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,520 Like why wouldn't they? If they want them, if they want 1369 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,920 faith to break the 8 minute, the four minute mile, why wouldn't 1370 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,800 they Lay for 800K? What? 1371 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,760 1.6 K is a mile worth of the tartan in a straight line 1372 01:09:00,279 --> 01:09:02,800 somewhere. Maybe it's like full 1373 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,200 authenticity of actually doing it properly. 1374 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,120 I reckon that's something. Have you seen the guy who rides 1375 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:11,520 a bike, breaks when they break the like cycling speed records 1376 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,960 and they put them in behind a literally like a car and a big 1377 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,720 shelter. I mean, effectively you could do 1378 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,800 that as well, but I think they're like playing on the real 1379 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,200 fine line of things are still legal to a degree. 1380 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,319 OK. We're on a track, we're doing it 1381 01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:28,680 in those conditions and it was going to be super interesting to 1382 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,439 see. So, but if anyone go and watch 1383 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,520 that because it's interesting to see the whole background story 1384 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:34,319 of it. Yeah, cool. 1385 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,000 That's good. All right, good EP. 1386 01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:41,640 We will be share like subscribe all that nonsense and we will be 1387 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,439 back for have we got Wednesday coming out coming up. 1388 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,640 Good question. We'll work it out, but Gold 1389 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,600 Coast Marathon? A lot of requests coming in for 1390 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,880 the DC Mara day of episode. Day of episode. 1391 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,360 Look, I will say this, stand by, I'm not running the marathon. 1392 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,480 I can confirm that now I'm you might see me there in a 1393 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,080 different capacity. Look out for Liam. 1394 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:04,360 Look out for me. Alright, cool. 1395 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:04,880 See you then. Bye.