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In the beginning episode 42 and 
back to the one a week schedule 

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Courtney for the moment for the 
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going we are going to do a 
special special guest coming 

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special GC we're just going 
we've got a. 

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Special enough guest in New Liam
because I had a note this week 

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he's been back in the news. 
Back. 

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In the Keenan Jacobs sent me 
this in and he said I'm sorry 

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Liam, but we, we, we have to 
talk about this. 

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Hello, Liam Flanagan. 
Speaking of Caleb Stiff, Bailey 

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Humphrey. 
He's just described that you 

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don't wanna do this to Bailey 
Humphrey. 

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Big contest. 
Bailey Humphrey. 

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Stan, this is a young man who 
the Giants will not want to 

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start feeling himself 'cause 
when he does, he's capable of 

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anything. 
Jay Bolt when he feels himself, 

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he feels good. 
Wow, wow, that's got true. 

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Wow, he's. 
Dealing with I. 

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Don't know what he's going on 
there, Liam Flanagan, but again.

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You knew what he meant. 
I burned. 

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Did you? 
Yeah, not really actually 

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Speaking of knowing what he 
meant. 

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Your mate again, Stevie J Bill, 
then yeah, then we. 

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Yeah, This is Bernie. 
Bernie, Vince, this. 

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You're not more about this 
podcast than I do. 

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They're your family mate. 
This is from. 

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Triple M, This is Triple M 
footy. 

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It's the Saturday rub. 
Bernie Vince, former Adelaide 

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grow Melbourne Demon ripping 
bloke. 

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He's on breaking radio down in 
Adelaide and he does a 

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basically, I can't remember what
the segment's called, but every 

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Saturday he goes through and 
basically takes the absolute 

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piss out of his fellow Triple M.
It's. 

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Bernie's enough for the week. 
No, not for the week, sorry for 

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the week, not for the week. 
I don't think I was enough for 

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the week. 
But yeah, enough of the week is 

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when he basically goes and takes
audio from mostly radio, but TV 

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or basically when people stuff 
things up. 

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What that was in reference. 
I was down in Sydney. 

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It was the GWS Gold Coast game. 
Now, I thought cards on the 

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table, nothing if not honest 
with the in the beginning 

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family. 
I thought I was being cool. 

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I thought I was using the slang 
that the kids use when they 

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refer to feeling themselves, as 
in like feeling confident in 

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themselves. 
That's the terminology right 

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now. 
I used it on a station whose 

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target demographic is 40 year 
olds plus, so I probably didn't 

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pick the audience. 
Right, Right. 

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And fair to say, Jude Bolton and
Brad Seymour, who were calling 

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the game with me, did not 
support me whatsoever. 

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I was you. 
You were called out on the spot.

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I was. 
Jude and Brad both turned and 

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looked at me and said, what are 
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And I actually played that to 
Bailey Humphrey. 

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Bailey Humphrey came in studio 
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that audio to him and even he 
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He even even even reacted with I
don't think you can say that on 

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radio. 
So look, the the part of being a

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footy commentator is you're 
always updating your phrase 

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book. 
You're always learning new 

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words, adding new words, finding
new ways to describe things 

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that. 
Is now gone. 

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Is deleted. 
Don't say that to your kids. 

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Don't say that's a. 
That has been deleted from my 

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from my phrase book, so thank 
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Yes, let's leave that. 
Thank. 

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You, Bernie, thank you. 
To who? 

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Who sent that in? 
Keenan Jacobs. 

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Thank you, Keenan, you've made 
your point. 

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You're not gonna get away with 
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No, you've made your point now. 
Here you've had. 

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It was a good call though. 
Good call. 

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That was a great game. 
The and then the I've called 

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since then. 
I've called the Suns win over 

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the Melbourne so oh. 
That was Sunny's back. 

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That was a. 
Cup and I bumped into a high 

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performance big boss riggers 
Alex Rigby. 

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Oh, Yep, I don't think he's 
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Well, I think he was just 
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frankly. 
Now, the reason I thought you 

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were going to be you thought I 
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been hit up for a few people 
saying that. 

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What have you done now? 
Well, all of a sudden go to 

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collect my bib, go to get ready 
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pick up my official marathon. 
Oh, we. 

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Finally got the photos up. 
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I'm I'm hastily racing through 
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get to the page and read it. 
It's a big news this week, 

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though. 
Here we go. 

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Well, you're not running the 
marathon. 

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But this is what I wanted. 
To show you. 

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OK, I won't. 
I won't ruin it just yet then. 

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The commentary team, Yes, for 
the Triple M Gold Coast 

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Marathon, you got Triple M Gold.
Coast Marathon, You mean what 

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did it be called? 
The ASICS Gold Coast Marathon? 

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I'm still in radio. 
Don't say that. 

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But now don't say that. 
Talk about saying things do not.

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I'll give you a tip. 
I'll give you a commentary tip 

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down there on the on the finish 
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So Liam's gonna be calling you 
across the line in the both the 

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half and the full. 
Right. 

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And then I'm trying to get to 
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And we don't want to hear it's a
triple M Make sure you call it 

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the correct name. 
I'm. 

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Gonna have to take Speaking of 
deleting things from my brain. 

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Southern Cross University, 10K. 
Yes, the ASICS. 

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ASICS. 
Gold Coast Marathon ASICS. 

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Gold Coast half? 
No, no, it's ASICS. 

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Gold Coast Marathon for sure. 
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I'm assuming. 
I'm assuming the half's ASICS as

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well. 
I am. 

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If you, if you haven't picked up
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I'm in there, I'm in there. 
I'm gonna be working alongside 

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the great Pete Murray, which I'm
excited about, the voice of Iron

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Man in Australia. 
Man, of course Noosa try across 

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the line, heaps of stuff. 
So I like the little sledge 

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though, which was in there 
delivered by somebody at Emq who

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said, well, Liam had planned to 
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this year and untimely injury 
saw him sideline so. 

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Hey, we I'm a big believer and 
things are meant to be Liam. 

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And this is This Is Us. 
This is for the podcast. 

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That's it. 
There's a shared end of the 

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podcast in there too. 
Is it? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So look, not going to be 

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running, but really, really 
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I'm gonna get to cause I've 
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line vibe as a non runner. 
So I'm really looking forward to

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being there on both days. 
I will say this, if you're 

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listening to this in time before
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half 10, whatever it is, or the 
full on the Sunday, come find me

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on the line. 
Come find me, Come and say 

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g'day. 
Come and you know, tell me your 

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name, introduce yourself. 
I'll, I'll pump up as many of 

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you as I can. 
I want to give special love to 

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all the in the beginning podcast
listeners as they finish their 

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races. 
So if you if you see me, come 

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find me. 
I'll be the short 1. 

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There'll be Pete, nice tall 
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a deep voice and I'll be the 
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And I'll be just waving till 
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mate. 
From up in here actually. 

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I I bumped into Bronte this 
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corporate passes into that 
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She's very. 
I am gonna be watching, Yeah, 

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we'll, we'll be above you 
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And. 
I don't know how I like. 

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That you don't know if you're 
like, hey, plenty of pump. 

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We're gonna be pumping the 
podcast for the whole weekend. 

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So yeah, we are. 
We are now enough, enough 

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bagging me out. 
Frankly, I wasn't ready for 

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either of those. 
I've had, I've had my fair share

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of my. 
Time across. 

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This for these weeks. 
Well, let's talk some running 

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news. 
What's going on? 

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Let's talk. 
The big one is and you know, 

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Western states. 
So I'm I'm. 

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Hopefully, hopefully most 
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states, even those roadrunners 
and marathons that listen to us.

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It's the oldest 100 mile trail 
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you go by their website. 
It is the, it's the big one that

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I know my friends who are good 
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Anna McKenna share that. 
Anna, who's a great trail runner

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out of Noosa, that's the one she
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every year. 
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Everyone wants to get in, so 
there's limited you've got to 

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even the elites have to go close
and like someone's going to 

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correct me very close to winning
a major 100 mile run just to get

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a ticket to it. 
So it's not even easy for, you 

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know, the elites to get there, 
but it actually makes sense 

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being, you know, that everyone 
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You know, we've talked a lot 
about how does a race become 

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iconic? 
It's the oldest race. 

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Yeah, it's probably probably 
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beautiful, beautiful location, 
everything else. 

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So there's it's 161 kilometres 
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and 7000 metres of descent in 
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Now the winner this year of the 
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And for the moment, I was just 
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the results up for the women as 
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So we can make sure we're cover 
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But it's more about just the 
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focus on here. 
So Caleb is a Nike runner runs. 

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He won the event in 14 hours and
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and. 60. 
Crazy, crazy, but what I want to

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call out. 
So killing and John A, probably 

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one of the best known, not just 
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on the planet. 
He got he came in 3rd and there 

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was another guy in the race as 
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He's been doing a heap of 
YouTube stuff called mountain He

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he goes by the handle mountain 
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and all of that. 
It's interesting the difference.

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So Caleb Olson who won runs for 
Nikes has a following of 11 

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point 5011. 1/2 thousand people 
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killing him. 1.8 million has. 
Killing got 1.8 million. 

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Yeah, and then let's look it up 
on the numbers. 

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But what's crazy is I love, This
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It's it's still in such a an 
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where you find people. 
You can still runners can still 

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go there. 
And Caleb was, I think he's had 

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one of the best first time 
first, first. 

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Is that his first? 
No, it wasn't. 

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But as he was one of the I think
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the the how do you say that? 
Debbie, Tom, Debbie is on. 

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Oh, wow. 
Ever. 

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But, you know, I'm just 
surprised, like the winner of 

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Western States, the biggest 
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There's a lot of people watching
it and, and you know, this is 

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just how hard it is for running.
Someone here we haven't heard 

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of? 
Really. 

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Well, I'd heard, I know. 
I've definitely heard of him 

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because I've seen him. 
They the interest. 

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We'll get to the shoes a bit 
later on, but there's a lot of 

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let's say prototype shoes being 
run. 

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Oh, now that a lot of the, you 
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were running in shoes that are 
like specially made for them for

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that event, which is really 
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you know, we see a few 
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release it prior to the event. 
MMM trail bit different. 

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They're all running in certain 
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Interesting. 
Yeah, we'll go through that 

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later in the episode if you hang
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Did you want the women's 
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I do. 
Want the women's? 

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Results the whole of the US. 
So just for context, same course

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the Abby you finished, I think 
it was the 4th fastest women's 

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time ever. 
She came in in 16 hours, 37 

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surgery, about two hours 20 
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But she is a she's been just 
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Basically it was almost a a post
to post win for Abby. 

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She sounds like she dominated 
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has been a really good 100K 
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and this was her first big mile 
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So well done, I mean. 
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it's crazy fast. 
So these are quick. 

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It is like one of the more 
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But yeah. 
Yeah. 

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So that was no Aussies in the 
top ten. 

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No, but shout out to to Dan 
Jones. 

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Interesting. 
We've talked about Dan on here 

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before around my what? 
He was the guy. 

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I was telling him the story 
about rappelling off the bridge.

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That's right. 
Interesting to know. 

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I just and this is sort of apple
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race that takes part is is in 
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that. 
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Europeans might have been more 
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but it's in the men's race. 
I think you find like and you 

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know, to talk out of out of turn
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Western states is the big one 
for the US. 

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OK, I got you UTMB. 
It's the big one. 

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Yeah, it's definitely US guys 
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well in UT MB as well. 
But it'll be like European. 

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Yeah, driven. 
Cool, cool, cool. 

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Now, did you watch the Breaking 
40? 

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Yes, this is. 
Did you watch it? 

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Live or replay? 
I watched a replay. 

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Yeah. 
OK, Yeah. 

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What? 
What did you make of it? 

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I made of it. 
It's a good look. 

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I get where they're going. 
I get what they're trying to do 

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and we've talked about it on 
here before. 

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They're trying to take running 
mainstream. 

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Quick catch up Faith Kipiagon, 
women's GOAT middle distance 

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runner, copying the mould set by
Elliot Kipiogay when Nike tried 

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to break 2 hours with him over 
the marathon, tailored 

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everything to get him to achieve
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They did the same for Faith 
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her the first female to ever run
a sub 4 minute mile. 

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So on pace for three laps 
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dropped 556 seconds on the last 
lap, just didn't have it. 

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Look, I was more focused on the 
run itself in the end. 

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It's such a small part because 
when you're running only, what, 

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four O 6. 
What'd she do in the end? 

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She did a four O 6 first. 
It was the fastest ever mile 

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time by a female athlete ever 
heard. 

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She has the world record of four
O 7. 

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But so still a success. 
Still a success by that measure,

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yes. 
But what I was interested in is 

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the actual show so I've watched 
the pre show on prime. 

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Right. 
What do you think? 

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And then I've watched obviously,
So when I say the pre show, I 

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watched the episode 1, which we 
talked about the other day, 

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which explained all of the 
technology and everything and 

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the training. 
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in the lead up to her run and 
there was probably a good 40 

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minutes of it they brought in 
obviously USI think the whole 

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the main host was a a American 
female sports reporter. 

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OK, so from the media, I think 
so she they were doing a great 

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job. 
They had everyone represented, 

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right? 
Carl Lewis? 

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Great. 
Amazing. 

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Great. 
I'd like to see him on. 

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That was like special. 
Yeah, like especially, you know,

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around as a sprinter, but still 
has a lot to say about 

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athletics. 
It just didn't work for. 

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Me what? 
What about it didn't work? 

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It's just clunky. 
It's just how do you make I I 

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would have rather seen it 
packaged up the first like the 

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actual first episode of her 
training and the technology and 

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everything else. 
I would have rather seen it in a

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one one hour package as one, one
hour special instead of trying 

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to break it out in three where 
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Then this show was like I just 
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40 minutes and then you know the
event. 

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I think if you're going to go 
and watch something live and you

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want to be there, you need to 
get to the get get to the main 

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event quicker than that. 
It was just a long all. 

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That that and I didn't see it. 
I only watched the race. 

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I've only watched the replay of 
the the entry into the thing. 

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So from that I don't quite have 
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product because I didn't have to
sit through all that. 

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I watched it on replay after the
fact and. 

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You just Fast forward it so 
that. 

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No, but the replay only gave me 
basically when Faith came out 

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onto the track and when the 
Pacers came out of the track, it

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didn't give me all the pre 
stuff. 

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Yeah, right. 
So I actually just got to see 

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the attempt. 
Really. 

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That's all I saw. 
And so I don't have that view of

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it. 
I I really thought it was great.

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I thought, you know, I love 
seeing Stewie Mcswain out there 

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representing Australia as one of
the paces. 

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And to me it was just, yeah, it 
looked like a really kind of 

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exciting, well commentated run. 
Talking about the lights that 

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would keep your own pace. 
What? 

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Really enjoyed it run started 
100% on. 

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I just think it was just too 
long to get there of them trying

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to fill time in to keep you 
watching for a whole hour. 

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Whereas I think instead of 
taking 3-1 hour episodes, if 

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they would have just condensed 
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being greedy and just condensed 
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You know, half an hour of the 
lead up into the race, bang, 

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gone, done and. 
If you look at it from that 

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perspective, it's not a money. 
This was this was not set up to 

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be a money making exercise for 
Nike. 

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Nike doesn't need to create 
things like this to make more 

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money. 
Oh well. 

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I think the purpose of doing it 
is to make more money. 

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Do you think, Yeah, what money 
is there to be made aside from 

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selling the TV rights, selling 
shoes? 

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I don't reckon that's going to 
sell more shoes. 

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It's to buy in. 
I don't it's awareness. 

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I don't think that event would 
have sold more shoes. 

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It's awareness. 
If you went in and you're, 

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you've got Nike on your on your 
brain, you know, if you're going

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in, you're going into PAC fair, 
I'm going in, I'm going to buy 

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some shoes today. 
I'm running my next marathon or 

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I'm, you know, going out to buy 
shoes to train in. 

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You walk past the Adidas store, 
you've walked past the ASIC 

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store and you see the Nike 
store. 

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Top of your mind is Nike just 
did this big thing that have 

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been watching and following 
along and everything else that 

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is going to. 
It's there to sway your 

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judgement to buy. 
OK, Yeah, I don't you're right. 

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I don't disagree with you that 
what I think I mean is that as a

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product, yeah. 
That the the event itself as a 

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product should have been, could 
have been packaged better. 

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I think the brand, the box could
have been better. 

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The thing that was it was 
wrapped within could have been 

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didn't need all the excess 
packaging. 

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It could have just been one nice
layer of wrapping rather than 17

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or an hour's worth of wrapping. 
Yeah, in this case, I, I I think

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it was a bit like a wedding. 
The pre, the build up to it is 

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where they got all the benefit, 
like a lot of the benefits and 

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everyone talking about it, 
sharing all the different 

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things, you know, working out. 
Can she do it? 

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Can she not? 
And then it's kind of like when 

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it was done, it was like, OK. 
I have to go back and watch it 

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because I again, I don't wanna 
comment too much without having 

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seen any of it and I don't wanna
sit here and just hit you and. 

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Laundry list and I'm being 
pessimistic about it. 

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I think it's I think Nike are 
the big winners out of here. 

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Like there's been a lot of media
build up for a long time and so 

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across all socials, you know, 
having a female athlete go out 

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and do that with, you know, all 
the sport, everyone focuses, it 

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was great to what I did get 
excited about was watching her 

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come out and having that whole 
team of like athletes around 

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her. 
Well let me ask you this then, 

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if you're added us, let's just 
pick out of this and it could be

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anyone, it could be humour, it 
could be Soccerny, it could be 

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whoever. 
What else is there in the 

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running space that would be 
worth an investment to try and 

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create something like that? 
Is there a time? 

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Is there a distance? 
Is there a number? 

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Is there something? 
No. 

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And I think that's why they went
there. 

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That was the obvious next step. 
They've done the marathon and 

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then the four minute mile is the
other. 

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I mean the next, the, the next 
step to me would be the 100 

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metres. 
I was going to say, that's what 

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jumps out to me immediately. 
Or a or long jump. 

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If you're yes, if you're talking
about because what? 

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Who's the I wanted to bring this
up with you the other week. 

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Who's the young Swedish pole 
vaulter? 

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Who should know his name? 
Hey. 

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Aman Duplantis, the Swedish pole
vaulter who's basically he's 

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Swedish American, but he 
competes for Sweden. 

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Are you aware of Remind Me? 
We'll go back to that 100 metre 

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thing. 
Are you aware of what he's been 

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doing with the world record 
bonuses? 

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Have you seen this story? 
No, but I'm I'm making the 

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assumption without seeing the 
story, he's just been knocking A

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centimetre or two off each time.
That's exactly. 

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What he's doing, he's. 
Probably got 20 centimetres up. 

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He's exactly what he's doing. 
He has wouldn't he gets a, he 

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gets a $100,000 bonus from World
Athletics each time he breaks 

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the world record here. 
He has broken the world record 

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12 times. 
Every time he does it, it's by a

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centimetre. 
And then he says, I've won world

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record 100,000. 
See you next time plus plus 

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because. 
Every other sponsor would be 

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also tipping in on that world 
record. 

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Right. 
And he's only, and this is the 

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thing, the conditions are that 
it's only one bonus per meet 

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that which is why he doesn't 
bother going again once he 

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breaks it, he can't. 
Oh, he like it's not one world 

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record 2. 
Exactly, exactly. 

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So sorry. 
Going back, we talked about 

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Duplantis, we were talking about
what other space could a running

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brand 100. 
It's. 

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Speed, right? 
And if you think about what 

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captures the imagination, you 
just talked about Nike doing 

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this because it keeps them front
of mind when people are walking 

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through Pacfare, wherever it is,
buying shoes, speed is the other

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one, right? 
So. 

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Speed or I, I, I do believe when
we're talking like jump. 

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Yes, I agree. 
Like jump and like how, what's 

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the technology to make someone 
be able to like, because 

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there's, there's, to me, that's 
like a bit of an enigma and like

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how far can someone jump? 
Like it's basketball, you watch 

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it and it's like around that, 
but think about how long. 

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So to me it's the long jump. 
Because isn't the one men's 

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world Men's long jump world 
record one of the longest 

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standing records in. 
It might be one one of the 

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longest ideas. 
I was going to bring those. 

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OK, Mike Powell of the United 
States. 

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Wow. 
That's all because. 

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He was 1991. 
Yeah, it. 

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Was Lewis time? 
So it's been on, it's been there

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for 30-4 years. 
He jumped 8.95 metres. 

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So does the the equipment have 
to catch up with the equipment 

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of that day? 
Oh, hi, careful. 

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Allegedly. 
Allegedly, allegedly, but no. 

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Well, I did see you asked me 
what was the longest. 

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I did see a post the other day 
of the longest standing world 

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record in athletics and it's a 
fee. 

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It's the female 100 metre event 
and they had a picture. 

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It's a check checklist. 
Savarkian, I think, lady. 

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Jamila Craccholi, Volvo, 800 
metres, Yes. 

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And when you? 
41 years. 

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Yes. 
And when they showed the video 

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00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,280
of the event, yeah, maybe we'll 
do this another week and and 

452
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,120
discuss it because it is it's 
quite eye opening. 

453
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:31,440
It was definitely in the in the 
Eastern Bloc heyday. 

454
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,560
Well, interesting to note, the 
next closest time is held by 

455
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,640
Pamela Chamila. 
I don't know where she's from, 

456
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,320
but Casa Semenya has the third 
fastest. 

457
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,360
But they but they deleted her 
record. 

458
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,040
So this is the thing, they 
deleted her record but didn't 

459
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,200
delete well. 
They're the well because they 

460
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,320
didn't have proven positive drug
tests from many athletes in that

461
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,240
or from all the athletes in that
idea to to put a bow on the 

462
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,560
breaking fall thing. 
I love it. 

463
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:03,160
I, I hope more brands explore 
this pathway. 

464
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:09,680
I hope more of them try and 
figure out novel ways to 

465
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:16,440
celebrate athletes or efforts or
feats in a product that we can 

466
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,640
all enjoy and consume in a fun 
way. 

467
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,160
Yeah, perfect way perfect. 
Perfect way. 

468
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,360
All right, Dead Cow Gully, 
Backyard Ultra. 

469
00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:27,400
That's a a mouthful. 
Yeah, it's not a great package. 

470
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaking of package things. 
I had to go and look at where 

471
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,880
because obviously this is a very
niche event, like I mean 

472
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,920
probably one of the most niche 
events, but because of the 

473
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,320
nature of what a back out ultra 
is and just running around, what

474
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,720
is it, 6.7 kilometres? 
6.7 goes. 

475
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,920
Every hour and just keep doing 
that for as long as you can. 

476
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,760
Yeah. 
So actually, Red Bull raced the 

477
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,880
Sun alumni Phil Gore. 
Is he raced for us? 

478
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,840
Is he really? 
He ran last year. 

479
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,600
There you go. 
And he won and broke the world 

480
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:10,680
record by doing 119 loops. 
So for context, 800 kilometres 

481
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,360
in five days. 
Yeah. 

482
00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:15,800
So 119 loops and people. 
And if your brain's like mine, 

483
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,680
you you've suddenly, you've put 
that on a in a circle, you've 

484
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,440
gone what? 
A loop is a circle. 

485
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,520
Therefore, OK, I'm doing 119 
loops. 

486
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,040
Put that into days. 
Five days. 

487
00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:27,840
Now you might think you might be
able to sneak a sleep in, but 

488
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,920
you've got to run the 6.7 K 
every hour. 

489
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:37,920
Let's say even hypothetically 
that Phil suddenly has a A4 four

490
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,920
minute K loop in him, right? 
And he let's just say go 28 KS 

491
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,560
the most sleep he could possibly
get because then you've got to 

492
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,440
be up and ready to go the most 
sleep realistically he could get

493
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,160
on anyone lap might be 20 
minutes and I don't even think 

494
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,800
you would have got that. 
So you are going five days where

495
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,040
the most rest you're probably 
having at any one time is 10 to 

496
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,360
15 minutes. 
Yeah, man, it's it's for one. 

497
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:10,040
It's before any of the running. 
Yeah, it's great. 

498
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,960
I mean, this is the one where I 
suppose like there's all the 

499
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,360
long distance run stuff going 
around, but this is the one that

500
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:20,360
puts it into kind of a package. 
It's all about packages, puts it

501
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:22,000
in a package and said this is 
what you got to do. 

502
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,440
And so there's an element of 
like competition there, of 

503
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,000
seeing how long and these guys 
are just going on and on and on 

504
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,960
and crazy. 
So Sam Harvey from New Zealand, 

505
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,960
I watched a a YouTube doggo on 
him the other day. 

506
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,120
So he set the New Zealand 
national record as well. 

507
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:39,160
But he I was watching him. 
He just like gave up his job and

508
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,920
said I'm just gonna start doing 
this running stuff for, you 

509
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,760
know, seeing how far I can go. 
And these guys are like, these 

510
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,760
are the real heroes. 
I reckon when you talk about the

511
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,800
distance stuff, you know, like 
the ultra ultra, like we talked 

512
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,080
about Western. 
So like if you have Western 

513
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,960
states, that's like to me, I 
compare that to Iron Man. 

514
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,200
It's kind of comparable in the 
sense of 14 hours. 

515
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,680
It's not a sleep deprivation 
thing. 

516
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,560
You know, elite Iron Man now go 
a bit quicker. 

517
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,160
They're going like 7 1/2 hours. 
But the average Iron Man will be

518
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,040
out there in around 12 hours or 
something, 12 to 1314. 

519
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,720
So it's in that realm of a day's
effort. 

520
00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:20,240
This stuff is like, you know, 
ultra, what would you say? 

521
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,960
You've got to deal with sleep 
deprivation. 

522
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,560
You've got to just deal with 
like the demons of all of that 

523
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,200
and everything else going on and
have the endurance to keep 

524
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,840
going. 
And to but I think I really 

525
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,840
think you cracked it last 
episode when you talked about 

526
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:38,160
the fact that sleep was the the 
determining factor between what 

527
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,480
you and I decided races that are
enjoyable and ones that are 

528
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,720
torturous. 
Oh, this isn't. 

529
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,480
Enjoyable. 
No, no, no, that's and that's 

530
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,720
what I mean that you cracked it 
last week when you when you said

531
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,280
that and you just went it's 
sleep. 

532
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,720
It's sleep is what allows you to
recover and enjoy things and and

533
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,960
enjoy the pain and and limits 
that you can test yourself with.

534
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,680
So this happens all around the 
world. 

535
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,920
Obviously different backyard 
ultras have started over in the 

536
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,560
States, but I had to look up 
where Runny made what running 

537
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,040
runny made was. 
So this happens out near 

538
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,760
Kingaroy, southern Queensland. 
Yep. 

539
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,560
No, no. 
Well, yes, inland from the 

540
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,440
Sunshine Coast, so just out on a
property there. 

541
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,960
And they've created the event to
break the world record, so I'm 

542
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:24,680
having plenty of coverage. 
I, of course ABC covered it. 

543
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,280
I bet you SBS also got on the 
bandwagon here. 

544
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,120
What do you? 
Reckon he won, Have you looked 

545
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:37,240
into that? 
No, I haven't, but I'm going to 

546
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,440
take a. 
Oh, what do you think this man 

547
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,480
has run for five days? 
800 Ki. 

548
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,360
Think I've heard this. 
Is this the cow? 

549
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,640
The cow Pat. 
Oh, maybe, maybe. 

550
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,120
But I'm looking at the prize 
money. 

551
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:57,960
Oh, the prize money. 
Because according to this 2024, 

552
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:04,400
last year's winner won $10,000. 
If you offered me 10, No. 

553
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,920
If you offered me 10 grand to 
run 800 KS. 

554
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,160
Better than a lot of other 
running events? 

555
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,280
True. 
It's better than City to surf. 

556
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,720
What's the prize money at City 
to Surf? 

557
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,320
I've looked it up the other I 
think it's like 2 1/2 grand for 

558
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,160
the winner. 
That seems crazy to me 90. 1000 

559
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,000
runners, 2 1/2 grand to win. 
Really. 

560
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,000
Yep, don't Fact Check me, but I 
did. 

561
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,360
We were. 
We were looking at it the other 

562
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:31,360
day for another reason. 
You you actually you're spot on.

563
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:34,000
1st place male and female 
runners each receive $2000. 

564
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,680
That's nuts. 
This is one of the most 

565
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,360
participated in fun runs around 
the world. 

566
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:45,480
Surely they can stump up a 
bigger purse for the winners of 

567
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,120
this thing. 
I wonder if they stumped up a 

568
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:52,120
bigger purse if they we might 
see like well here. 

569
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,960
Did you race better, harder when
the prize was bigger? 

570
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,280
Of course, you did put more on 
the line. 

571
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,960
Someone says to you half, 
$1,000,000 to go run first, 

572
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,080
$10,000, you're going to put a 
lot more. 

573
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,840
Now you shouldn't say that 
because you're not going to put 

574
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,240
a lot more in it, but it's just 
a lot more on it. 

575
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,040
You're going to put more 
priority on that event. 

576
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:18,720
Now I know the course has been 
changed and Mona's record of 40 

577
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,600
O 3 is that breakable on the 
current course, The new course 

578
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,560
as it sits. 
I don't know enough about. 

579
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,920
How much the course I. 
Mean I know in oh here we go 

580
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,920
ahead how the course changed but
2020. 

581
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,240
Four last year's event. 
Isaac is it Hain? 

582
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,200
Yep, Isaac came one with 4049, 
so he's 46 seconds back from 

583
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,280
Moners. 
Well, then I'd say yeah, it's 

584
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,440
breakable. 
Is another 20 grand capable of 

585
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,120
improving your time by 46 
seconds? 

586
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,800
Like, you know, imagine if there
was even those. 

587
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,480
There was $25,000 on offer. 
It's an interesting 1, isn't it?

588
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,800
I I actually thought until there
was 2 1/2 thousand there was a 

589
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,560
time, I know when my Shelley was
like around winning around. 

590
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,080
I'm not sure if he won it, but 
around that trying to win it. 

591
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,800
It might have been just a you 
got a flight to their sister 

592
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,600
event for winning over in a 
series. 

593
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,120
Yeah, I'm I was sure and someone
out there right into us. 

594
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,880
I was sure the backyard ultra at
dead cow gully. 

595
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,600
They got it. 
There's one there's one where 

596
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,880
you get literally a bag of cow 
shit. 

597
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,440
That's what you get to take 
away. 

598
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,480
Let us know which one it is, if 
it if it is dead cow or it's one

599
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,840
another one but. 
Someone's definitely. 

600
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,480
Told me that it. 
Doesn't appear as though Oh no, 

601
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,400
he did 2009. 
Michael Shelley Did he win 2009.

602
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,960
Took it out in a time of 4102, 
and since then it's been a bit 

603
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,080
of back and forth between Harry 
Summers, Benny Saint Lawrence 

604
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,440
and Liam Adams. 
Yeah. 

605
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,720
They've don't say my memory's 
shot all the time. 

606
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,080
No, no, you know that. 
No, I'm pretty sure I ran, 

607
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,000
actually ran that year. 
He won. 

608
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,800
And have you got the results 
here? 

609
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,960
I had a feeling I might have got
5th to 6th. 

610
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:54,760
Really. 
Yeah. 

611
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,760
All right. 
Possibly something around there.

612
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,640
Hey, I my like we didn't put it 
on the podcast because it was 

613
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,120
just going to be too difficult 
to do. 

614
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,600
But this week we my misfortune 
and not being able to run at the

615
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,160
Gold Coast marathon became 
someone's good fortune and we 

616
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:17,000
put a little bit of a comp on 
the social yes and the I just to

617
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,080
let everyone know who who 
entered or or saw it, the winner

618
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,800
or the person who we've we've 
given it to great little story 

619
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,920
behind it. 
So it's Timmy is he's going to 

620
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:31,320
run it and he runs. 
Ricky Estale was the one who 

621
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,240
submitted him and said he'd be 
amazing to to get a run and he 

622
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,800
does 1/2 marathon. 
Anyway, he runs for his late 

623
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,840
daughter Lunar every year. 
So she was 3 when she got hit by

624
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,640
a car and he does a marathon 
every year in in her honour. 

625
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,000
And he decided, well, if I can 
do a few more, he wanted to do a

626
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,040
couple more. 
So I thought that was a, you 

627
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,280
know, a nice story to help 
someone out who didn't have an 

628
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,680
entry. 
That's awesome. 

629
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,160
So good luck on the weekend, 
Timmy. 

630
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,720
And we'll, we'll, we'll keep 
keep Timmy. 

631
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,840
We'll keep you'll have. 
To make sure you give me Timmy's

632
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,640
your bib number so. 
No, so it won't be my bib. 

633
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,120
Number, that's no, no, no. 
No, it won't be my bib, but, 

634
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,360
well, he'll be out there 
running. 

635
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,560
Well, Ricky, if you're 
listening, please send through 

636
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,680
Timmy's details to the Instagram
page 'cause I would love to at 

637
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,800
the very least find him on the 
finish line, give him a shout 

638
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,880
out, but otherwise just give him
a big hug to say well done 

639
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,080
'cause it's an awesome story and
can't wait to to see him cross 

640
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,520
that line on Sunday in the race.
Just quickly coming back to see 

641
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,440
you surf. 
I have found this is a cool 

642
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,160
page. 
Found a page that ranks the 

643
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,120
Sydney to surf all time male 
rankings. 

644
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,720
OK, so if. 
Somebody just by the course or 

645
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,040
it's just on time. 
Time. 

646
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,560
Time only. 
So monas I've just checked 

647
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,400
myself. 
I haven't made the list. 

648
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,160
I have not made the. 
Top Oh, so you're you can 

649
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,600
actually search? 
Yeah. 

650
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,160
OK, so the top 450 are on here 
and Courtney Atkinson. 

651
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,440
Oh so here we go. 
So ranking males on 14K course 

652
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:05,480
1976 to 2018 and then the yeah, 
so all the way through to 2018. 

653
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,080
Do I make it? 
Courtney Atkinson, you sit 159th

654
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,080
all time. 
Gee, that doesn't sound too 

655
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,120
good. 
Does it 43 minutes and 11 

656
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,320
seconds. 4311. 4311 you and then
obviously Mona's. 

657
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,680
You're 308 behind Mona's. 
That's AK behind. 

658
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,960
Yeah. 
Robert D Costello in second. 

659
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,520
Mona Getty's on there. 
Oh, geez. 

660
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,600
How many times Steve? 
Mona Getty on this list is on 

661
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,040
there. 
Oh. 

662
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,080
So that's eight times that's 
they count multiple athletes. 

663
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,680
Yeah, no, so like they count 
Monas 8 times on that list. 

664
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,560
Oh, OK. 
Well, so. 

665
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Monas in front of you like 6 
times. 

666
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,960
Kind of a little bit misleading 
though. 

667
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,960
No, that takes on the times, 
Yeah, but that. 

668
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,600
Doesn't make me the 159th 
slowest. 

669
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,400
No, you're right. 
Runner. 

670
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,560
Because it looks like Liam Adams
is in front of you a fair bit. 

671
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,520
OK, that's I'm gonna call you 
out on this, John. 

672
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,240
Andrews is in front of you 8 
times. 

673
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,600
That's misleading then. 
I'm definitely I that you 

674
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,520
shocked me then 'cause I think I
can't be that I. 

675
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,880
Can't be that Tony McCartney's 
in front of you 4 times. 

676
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,480
Yeah, yeah. 
Anyway. 

677
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,680
Oh, who's this one? 
Yeah, no, there's that. 

678
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,360
Means I could have been in the 
top 50 possibly. 

679
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,720
Maybe. 
Yeah, I reckon Nah. 

680
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,320
Oh, you may be. 
You may be OK. 

681
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,520
Lead troops in front of you. 
Are you talking about getting 

682
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,000
now, getting back to Gold Coast?
We've got Gold Coast on this 

683
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,360
weekend. 
We're on about Gold Coast. 

684
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,800
Will Gibson gave you a shout 
out. 

685
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,720
So hey, boys. 
Hey. 

686
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,440
He wanted to know how you're 
pulling up and are you doing a 

687
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,920
three hour time? 
Because Will is actually anyone 

688
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,040
running around 3:10. 
He is gonna be a pacer, good 

689
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,760
man, he said. 
Mate, if you fall off your pace 

690
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,440
he was gonna give you a kick up 
the backside so that anyone 

691
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,280
anyone going out on the three 
hour group and the three hour 

692
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,400
pacer. 
Yeah, we'll, we'll don't. 

693
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,320
Yeah, don't let him catch. 
We'll get you. 

694
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,160
This is shout out Will. 
Thank you for the message, mate.

695
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,200
Sadly, you won't. 
I won't be there for you to give

696
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,360
me a kick up the ass, find me on
the finish line. 

697
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,520
Give me a pat on the ass, mate. 
It'd be again, all these people 

698
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,000
who have followed along with the
the podcast in the lead up to 

699
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,320
the Goldie Marathon. 
If you're listening to this 

700
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,080
after the marathon well and 
you've run it well done. 

701
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,040
If you're listening to this on 
the Saturday beforehand, just 

702
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,480
enjoy this tomorrow. 
I said to Bronte, obviously. 

703
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,080
How's she feeling this week? 
I see. 

704
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,120
Her in the office, I saw her 
today in the office. 

705
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:25,520
She's it's funny, we had a chat 
because she posted on her. 

706
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,000
She's got a bib. 
Yep, she's got a bat. 

707
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,040
She's got everything. 
She's getting started, but she 

708
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,639
posted on her Instagram the 
other day about her last PT 

709
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:39,800
session before the race. 
And I said to her, did it feel 

710
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,760
like when you did the last PT 
session that, oh, I've managed 

711
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,159
to get out of that uninjured 
because that's, and she's like, 

712
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:51,280
yeah, I'm, I, I finished it. 
When he said we were doing glute

713
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,639
stuff, my brain started going, 
oh, just don't hurt anything. 

714
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,640
Like there was this this mindset
for her now which. 

715
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,480
Is an athlete. 
I'm I'm ready now. 

716
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,040
I'm there now this is and now so
she's really excited, but it was

717
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,760
off the back of last week's 
episode talking about pacing. 

718
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,360
Yes. 
And I saw a great comment. 

719
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,400
I'm not sure if it was on the on
Spotify or on the Instagram 

720
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,880
about Maranoia is how somebody 
termed it marathon paranoia. 

721
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,960
OK, it was AI loved it. 
I thought it was a great 

722
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,560
apologies to apologies. 
Who? 

723
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,680
Whoever used that phrase, but 
Maranoia was a great way to 

724
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,160
describe what a lot of people 
are feeling and oh, here it is, 

725
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,440
Chandra Ralston said. 
Great episode guys. 

726
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,360
Maranoia is definitely setting 
in for me. 

727
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,560
Paranoia. 
But I haven't heard that one. 

728
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,240
Bronte's producer on the radio 
show is a young fellow named 

729
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:43,920
Harry who is has sort of been 
shadowing Bronte along this 

730
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,200
whole marathon journey. 
Their their time in runnings 

731
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,480
quite similar. 
And Harry chat at Harry listens 

732
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,800
to the podcast. 
He loves it. 

733
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:57,200
And I came out of a meeting on 
Monday this week and Harry came 

734
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,200
into the meeting. 
It was a big all sort of staff 

735
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,680
meeting. 
And as I was walking out, I just

736
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,360
said to everybody, everybody 
just show some patience with 

737
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,440
Harry. 
He's running a marathon this 

738
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,720
weekend for the first time. 
So whatever gets said in this 

739
00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:11,240
meeting, he will forget because 
all that's happening in his 

740
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:14,160
brain right now is on what 
happens if I start too fast? 

741
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,840
How am I going to feel AT25K? 
How am I going to feel to He's 

742
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,000
not listening to anything any of
you are saying. 

743
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,960
He he is completely a zero net 
result here at work this week 

744
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,680
'cause all his attention is 
focused in on this marathon. 

745
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,560
I also I ran into a Luke from he
works for the company to medic 

746
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,760
this. 
Week he's been. 

747
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,320
Listening and love your love 
your stuff, Luke, particularly 

748
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,200
the esky he he said about he's 
running, but he he reckons he'll

749
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,280
be around Bron. 
He's like he might be around 

750
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,960
that pace. 
He's been listening along for 

751
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,480
that too. 
He did also tell me, 'cause I 

752
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,120
said, oh, how'd you get onto the
podcast? 

753
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,320
Like how'd you find it? 
He said he found it on socials, 

754
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,440
but he recognised you from you. 
He was a Sydney boy and he 

755
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,200
recognised you from your show 
with MG. 

756
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,400
Uh huh. 
The big one. 

757
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,560
And I like, and then he goes. 
And then I kind of put two and 

758
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,360
two together, who you were. 
And I went, oh, we might tell 

759
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,200
Liam that one. 
But yeah. 

760
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,880
So good luck. 
Good luck to everyone. 

761
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,400
Running. 
Good luck to everyone running 

762
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,400
and again, you know, we'll 
figure out something for social.

763
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,520
I had no idea. 
I'll talk to you about it 

764
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,200
afterwards. 
Courtney. 

765
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,200
Yeah, mate. 
What about your run? 

766
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,400
Where you going? 
What's going on? 

767
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,120
I've been. 
Off grid four days this yeah, 

768
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,640
where we went camping with a 
whole group of families that we 

769
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,040
do trips with. 
We went funny enough, I was back

770
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,320
out at Tennerfield of all like 2
weeks after Red Bull race the 

771
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,480
sun. 
We went back through 

772
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,320
Tennerfield, but then I went 
another about an hour and a half

773
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,120
further out on some dirt roads 
till we found a spot where 

774
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,760
there's you know, you get away 
from the mobile reception. 

775
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,320
It was freezing mate. 
The so on the, the first night 

776
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,800
we were there, I don't know what
the temperature was, but you 

777
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,080
know, like I love the fact of 
winter camping 'cause if you're 

778
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,720
gonna go camping and it's cold, 
it's great. 

779
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,160
You put, make a big bonfire and 
you know, you hang around, but 

780
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,920
it still was cold. 
So it'd be a night scratching 

781
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,640
like ice off the car in the 
morning. 

782
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,600
And then it got better after 
that. 

783
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,520
But we were, you know, even the 
water. 

784
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,400
So the kids and, and my son and 
that we took weddies out because

785
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,800
there's a big rock. 
The the, the reason we went out 

786
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,440
there half as this, this big 
kind of rock, jump into it like 

787
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,000
you would camp on a gorge out 
there. 

788
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,400
And the water was at that 
temperature where the first day 

789
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,080
I jumped in without a wedding 
and I thought, you know, ice 

790
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,520
bath, just jump in freshen up. 
So I was having a shower and I 

791
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,800
lasted all of about I went 
actually down to see check for 

792
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,280
any logs and and stuff. 
So like if the kids are jumping 

793
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,600
off the rocks, you know, make 
sure it's all clear. 

794
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,400
And I probably got down about 
half a body length in my head. 

795
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,160
I'm out of here. 
That's enough, That's enough. 

796
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,240
But yeah. 
Did you get some running in? 

797
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,480
Didn't run. 
I took the shoes and I just was 

798
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,640
relaxing out there. 
Had all good intentions to run. 

799
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,920
Funny thing was we got told you 
need like forward driving to get

800
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,600
in there. 
Yeah. 

801
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,120
And the guy who owned the 
property said, oh, you know, 

802
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,360
just allow for my driveway 
another hour was 4.2 K. 

803
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,520
And we're kind of like, he's 
probably just taking the piss a 

804
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,680
little bit. 
But he wasn't taking the piss. 

805
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,000
It was, it was, it was if he 
needed to test the cars out. 

806
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,400
It was a decent slog in there. 
But yeah, he just relaxed. 

807
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,000
But what I did do this morning. 
So I am back running and I'm 

808
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,880
back when I'm I've been jogging 
to now. 

809
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,360
Jogging. 
Do you course? 

810
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,440
So this morning I went down to 
the Spit with the Gold Coast 

811
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,720
Runco. 
So most of the crew there are 

812
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:25,160
running 5 KS, 10 KS. 
There's a few running the 

813
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,840
marathon. 
They were doing their kind of 

814
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,840
lead up, so we did a 20 minute 
monofart lick. 

815
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,720
So if anyone's listening and 
thinking what do the kind of 

816
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:37,520
more elite runners do on a 
Tuesday before the before the 

817
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,960
marathon or before you're 
running the 10K this weekend? 

818
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,880
We literally warmed up 20 
minutes, jogged, ran a 2020 

819
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,800
minute monofart lick. 
So 290 seconds on, 290 seconds 

820
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:53,320
off, 460 seconds on, 460 seconds
off 4 thirties, 30s and then 4 

821
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,000
fifteens and fifteens to make 
that. 

822
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,960
And the Jacko, the coach, he 
said, mate, like let's, you 

823
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:02,760
know, give it some like we want 
to make sure we're woken up, but

824
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,640
also just be conscious. 
You're racing this weekend. 

825
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,520
I know the front, right? 
The front boys like Giordan, a 

826
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,280
few of the boys at the front got
down to like 240 pace. 

827
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,200
So then. 
Well, there's Paul, Benita said 

828
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,160
in Wednesday's EP. 
She said that you some of the 

829
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,600
runs you want in the marathon 
week should be faster than 

830
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,520
marathon pay should. 
Well, that's a lot faster than 

831
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,400
marathon. 
Yeah, should. 

832
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,440
But, you know, really wake up. 
I ran through like just 

833
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,400
conservatively in 345 averages, 
so you know, so. 

834
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,800
Your conservative is back up. 
There, I'm running, you're 

835
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,240
running, I'm running and 
knocking off about 50 KA week. 

836
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:37,320
But now, now things will ramp up
a little bit. 

837
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,600
I am. 
I'm still running, I'm still 

838
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,200
plotting a little bit. 
I've been. 

839
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,320
It's amazing how life gets in 
the way. 

840
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:51,160
I've been very busy, but I last 
week I, I tried a couple of, it 

841
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,480
was interesting because I tried 
to go and essentially run a bit 

842
00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:00,920
under 5K pace just to, because 
I, it has been, I don't reckon 

843
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:07,480
I've really tried to run under 
5K pace since I hit my car. 

844
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,800
So that's three months ago, 
that's three months ago since 

845
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,720
I've really now bear in mind and
I know that people going, oh, 

846
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,400
that's still good running for 
me. 

847
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,560
When my mind was at with my 
running four months ago was that

848
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,280
I could do a sub three hour 
marathon. 

849
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,960
That's where my running was at. 
I was running well, you know, 

850
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,640
sub 4 minute K's weren't 
intimidating to me right now. 

851
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,120
The idea of running a sub 4 
minute K is terrifying to me. 

852
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,920
Like that's where I'm at now. 
So I did, I went out for a run 

853
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,840
the other day. 
I did 10 minutes warm up and 

854
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,760
then I did 4 minutes, not with 
any pace in mind, but just let's

855
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,920
move a bit more. 
And I averaged 430 for the four 

856
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,320
KS And then I did a cool down. 
I pulled up so sore. 

857
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,720
I pulled up. 
So just generally it wasn't 

858
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,800
there was no tears or strains or
anything. 

859
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,080
I was just sore running just 
even that 30 seconds quicker was

860
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,640
really sore. 
So I took a couple of days off 

861
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,840
after that, but then I did 
Sunday just gone. 

862
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,720
I've got a nice long for me, 
long 14K run in nice. 

863
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:09,760
Just touch under 5 minutes. 
So and everything's everything's

864
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,160
everything's fine, everything's 
good. 

865
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,000
So touch wood now I'm now I'm 
starting to. 

866
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,600
Think of what's next. 
Yeah, just starting. 

867
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,680
Yeah, a little bit of an itch, a
little bit of an itch. 

868
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,720
Have a look what's around. 
Figure out what's going on next.

869
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:23,240
But the body's feeling good. 
The body's feeling good. 

870
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:27,720
I'm back enjoying running and I 
am again. 

871
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:29,960
I couldn't be more excited about
this weekend to get around that 

872
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,920
vibe of the marathon because 
it's just. 

873
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,280
Just goodbye. 
Good news is we can start 

874
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,720
talking about ourselves a little
bit again. 

875
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:38,240
Man, we're running of. 
Course, we've been talking a lot

876
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:39,640
about Buddy. 
Everyone else is running. 

877
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,840
Let's be selfish. 
Yeah. 

878
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,200
Now you've got shoe stuff. 
I've got some gear. 

879
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,800
Let's go. 
A few posts I've I've seen this 

880
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,920
week and this one and I actually
can't see who it was. 

881
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:56,040
Runners Bon Voyent top shoes of 
2024 in the World Marathon 

882
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,800
Majors. 
So they've literally gone 

883
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,360
through all of the majors, male 
and female, and put the shoes in

884
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,880
ranking. 
Who do you reckon? 

885
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,480
Like can you see it? 
No no #1 shoe last year. 

886
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,400
Marathon brand just gives 
marathon majors Nike. 

887
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,880
No. 
Adidas. 

888
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,040
The Adidas? 
The Adidas, Yeah. 

889
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,720
The Adidas Pro Evo. 
What's interesting is the Adios 

890
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:23,160
Pro 4 also came in #4 OK, Nike 
Alpha Fly 3 #2. 

891
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,080
How many other shoe brands are 
in the top? 

892
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,560
What are we doing so? 
We've got Adidas, Nike, Nike, 

893
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,000
Adidas, ASICS on clown on cloud 
boom. 

894
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,840
Now think on One had one win so 
that it's like the Olympic medal

895
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:38,840
take away. 
Yeah, yeah. 

896
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,920
You're not taking about how many
awards. 

897
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,480
So when? 
Togo gets a a A medal in the 

898
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,600
kayaking and suddenly they jump 
up the the. 

899
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,160
Medal they're they're beating 
Japan because Japan got 20 

900
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,240
silvers and haven't won a you 
know gold sorry Japan I wasn't 

901
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:53,720
raised. 
I didn't. 

902
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,040
That was the first thing that 
come to mind. 

903
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,080
So on cloud another, this is an 
Adidas again. 

904
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:04,600
Three now enter. 
Have you heard of Anta Anta Anta

905
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,680
Ant? 
AANTA, who won wearing the shoe?

906
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,040
Anta, What The sports equipment 
company Anta Sports. 

907
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,320
Do you know what the logo of 
Anta looks a little bit like? 

908
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,320
They come from Deodora. 
Maybe it's a rebranded Deodora. 

909
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,960
There's Deodora out there still 
is the Chinese sports equipment 

910
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,480
multinational corporation. 
So it's Chinese shoe. 

911
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,120
Chinese shoe. 
What were those shoes you go 

912
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,920
gave me? 
Those horrible green things they

913
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,080
were. 
Weren't they Kip run? 

914
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:38,040
Were they Kip Run? 
No, Kip Run Was the Kip Run's 

915
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,120
Decathlon's branded shoe, isn't 
it? 

916
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,000
Do you know what's interesting? 
I'm pretty sure. 

917
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,120
I'm pretty sure. 
So while you're looking there, 

918
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,720
so on cloud another cloud Under 
Armour have got a a silver 1 

919
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:56,320
silver one 2/3 for a Puma for 
their deviate Nitro. 

920
00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:58,840
It gives a big rap that Nitro 
one. 

921
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,840
I just reckon it gets a big rap 
because of the look. 

922
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,960
Not that I've ever tried one. 
And then even a night Vapour Fly

923
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,960
came in three. 
You know, we took them down, but

924
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,280
Adidas Courtney Atkinson 5 Golds
versus Nikes 2. 

925
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,520
You are part of the Anta family.
What? 

926
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,720
Salomon owned by Amos Sports. 
Yes, Amos Sports, which is owned

927
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,680
by Anta. 
Wow. 

928
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,200
OK, we're so you are. 
We are breaking ground. 

929
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,520
Here you're part of the anti 
sports family. 

930
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:35,400
You're telling me Anta own AMA? 
AMA, I am. 

931
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,640
That's exactly what I'm telling 
you. 

932
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,000
Does someone the first thing 
comes up? 

933
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,440
Does Nike own Anta? 
Amos Sports is owned by Anta 

934
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,920
Sports. 
Amos Sports is owned by a 

935
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,560
consortium led by Anti Sports 
with Chip Wilson fan of. 

936
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,680
A few. 
Oh, OK. 

937
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:53,560
And the sports owned 44.5% of 
Amos Sports, so that would be 

938
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:58,360
the majority stakeholder. 
Folio of Yep, you're right. 

939
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,400
There you go. 
So. 

940
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,280
You need to get yourself some 
anti shoes. 

941
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,680
Maybe we've got educate Pete. 
Pete from Solomon. 

942
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,200
Hey, Pete's coming. 
He's, you know, you're not 

943
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,560
running, but he's still racing 
you. 

944
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,360
No. 
No, no, no, no. 

945
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,600
I'm gonna. 
Catch up with Pete. 

946
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,360
Is he still going after the sub 
three? 

947
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,840
Yep. 
How's he feeling? 

948
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,240
He he said he's everything's 
going good, so I'm going to 

949
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:20,320
catch up with him before the 
race, but there we go. 

950
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,720
So that's like the parent 
company or the parent company 

951
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,480
just we've got off track. 
We have got off track too 

952
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,560
quickly and I know you're just 
talking you. 

953
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,520
We need to go back because 
you've got another shoe thing 

954
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,800
you want to talk about very 
quick. 

955
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,200
Keep going, keep rolling. 
Pete coming in. 

956
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,680
This is the other thing about 
the marathon, which I encourage 

957
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,840
everyone. 
If you haven't done one, if 

958
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,160
you're listening to this and 
you're not a part of 1 yet, sign

959
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,080
one up because the anticipation 
that builds ahead of this stuff 

960
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,240
is so good. 
And the other thing, if you're 

961
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:50,480
on the Gold Coast, the shakeout 
runs are brilliant, but they're 

962
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,560
everywhere Friday morning. 
If you are not a part of the 

963
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,560
running community, you are going
to think what is going on 

964
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,440
because they are. 
Everywhere. 

965
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,240
What's the best shakeout 
advertisement you've seen? 

966
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:02,560
Which one do you? 
Which one? 

967
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:03,720
Here's a Here's a question for 
you. 

968
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:05,320
Which one would you want to 
attend? 

969
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,200
Well, I am attending 10. 
I'm attending AG One's shakeout 

970
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,480
run. 
That's the answer. 

971
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,880
Because I'm also going to be 
doing a bit of Q&A with Andy 

972
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,400
Buchanan. 
Oh wow. 

973
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,480
After the shakeout run. 
So Andy Buchanan. 

974
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,280
For those that aren't aware, 
Charlie's. 

975
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,760
Best you're doing that. 
Marathon runner, right? 

976
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,840
Now, is it kosher to be able to 
then go but like, put your 

977
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,960
iPhone on and just record 
yourself while you're doing it? 

978
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,600
Are you asking me will I steal 
some some chat from content from

979
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,720
Andy Buchanan? 
Why you're the one? 

980
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:38,480
For this podcast or just in 
general for the social, that's 

981
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,480
exactly what I'm going to do. 
That's exactly. 

982
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,720
See what I'm gonna do. 
Thank you to AG One for some 

983
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:47,600
free, free interview with Andy, 
if you can. 

984
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,240
Yeah, I'll record some of the 
chat with Andy. 

985
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,040
Yeah. 
Share it. 

986
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,080
Share it with you. 
In the beginning. 

987
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,920
It's it's you. 
It's it's you. 

988
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,520
You can take it. 
Exactly. 

989
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,640
And all it is doing is spreading
the AG1 message further and 

990
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:58,440
wider. 
Yeah, good. 

991
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,680
There's no doubt, Andy, you'll 
get that. 

992
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:01,440
OK, so you're. 
Going to AG one, but no. 

993
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,240
And is there any others that 
you've looked at and got? 

994
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,880
Oh wow, that one looks good 
because. 

995
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:11,800
Look, I've seen the What's the 
mob who run there at the front 

996
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,440
of Karaman? 
Year old salt. 

997
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,400
Salt. 
Yeah, the salt runners are 

998
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,200
having a shakeout run. 
Salt Mill. 

999
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,240
The salt Mill mob having a 
shakeout run. 

1000
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,520
I think I saw. 
It's clean, going on pace 

1001
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,320
athletic. 
I see. 

1002
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,720
Of course they're doing the I 
think about post, post and 

1003
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,480
whatever you wanna call a post 
thing post pastor or something. 

1004
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,240
Then with the Oxley down in 
Nobbies, that's cool, cool crowd

1005
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:37,200
down there. 
The. 

1006
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,720
Again, the other thing I will 
say, look, we've given them the 

1007
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:43,000
halfway house, EMQ next year, 
halfway house at the turn around

1008
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:48,000
point as we stand and also also 
a central hub for everyone to go

1009
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,440
to afterwards. 
Yeah, that's that next evolution

1010
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,960
of the event in my opinion. 
OK. 

1011
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,760
Let's keep going on back to the 
shoes. 

1012
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,240
So we talked that was the road 
shoes we kind of just covered of

1013
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:58,280
of interest. 
So going to back to Western 

1014
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,800
States, full circle, what we 
began with, there's a lot of 

1015
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,520
prototype or yeah, they're cool 
prototypes in this in this file 

1016
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,080
that people were running in. 
So I'm gonna give you another 

1017
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,320
stab at this women's top 10 
shoes at Western States. 

1018
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,720
So we're talking trail shoes 
now. 

1019
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,800
Brand #1. 
Salomon. 

1020
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:29,400
No, they were in #3 ASICS, No 
ASICS at all in the either men 

1021
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,720
or women. 
I'll guess Nike then. 

1022
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:32,520
Nike. 
What? 

1023
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,680
What? 
We said Nike won the men. 

1024
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,040
Not so, it's Adidas. 
I didn't even know they really 

1025
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,080
did trail. 
Shoes. 

1026
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,040
Yep, I've tried that. 
I've talked about an of just 

1027
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,440
trying on an Adidas shoe here. 
What's the travel shoe called? 

1028
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,600
Brett Carter from Sydney sent me
his pair. 

1029
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,560
He goes, you gotta try these, 
you gotta try these. 

1030
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,720
Yeah, the Terex. 
Oh yeah, I do remember those. 

1031
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,040
That's OK, just on this, right, 
Because when I Google Adidas 

1032
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,640
Terex, very quickly it comes up 
with that big bright orange 

1033
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,080
writing Terex. 
Yeah, right. 

1034
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,120
It doesn't look like an Adidas 
shoe. 

1035
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,880
Because the three stripes are 
covered, OK, but it's a it's a 

1036
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,280
kind of outdoor mountain where 
so like this downhill skiers 

1037
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,680
also wear Terex like their 
clothing or whatever they're 

1038
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,120
wearing around. 
So it's kind of more their 

1039
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,840
outdoor brand. 
You look at that, would you have

1040
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,080
said like that looks like it's 
own brand? 

1041
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,840
Yeah, I wouldn't have said if 
you so if you showed me that and

1042
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,320
I didn't know Terex that picture
you. 

1043
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,600
Would say that's not an Adidas. 
There's no way you'd say that's 

1044
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,000
an Adidas. 
Yeah, haven't you? 

1045
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,240
You've got to know that 
branding, but I mean in trail 

1046
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:38,040
they're they're quite heavy on 
that branding, right. 

1047
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,520
So you know it Plus I did learn 
the other day it's also mounted 

1048
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,000
so snow sports as well. 
Interesting. 

1049
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,280
So if I just go down the list 
quickly, so you've got Adidas, 

1050
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,320
then Hoka, Solomon, Kraft, 
another? 

1051
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:55,000
Brand the cheese. 
It's gonna go somewhere else 

1052
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,880
with the cheese. 
Salomon Calius. 

1053
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,920
There's another one. 
CA. 

1054
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,080
CAILAS, It's gotta be another 
Chinese shoe. 

1055
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:14,920
CAILASAS. 
Yep, and the the the the model 

1056
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,840
was the Fuga FUGAF. 
UG. 

1057
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,760
A worn by Ha Ha. 
Oh, ha, Kala. 

1058
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,840
Yeah. 
Good one, Kate. 

1059
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,600
Do you know Kailas? 
Kailas, Kailas, Yep. 

1060
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,400
So while you're looking that up,
then where it was Adidas again, 

1061
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,720
Adidas, Nike, Adidas man, like 
it's like they're really strong.

1062
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:37,200
So that's in the women's side. 
If you go down the men's side, 

1063
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,320
top ten, we've got Nike, we've 
got Brooks, Brooks make a thing 

1064
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,560
normal, which is Kelly and 
Jornay's own shoe on Cloud 

1065
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,120
Ultra, another Adidas. 
That's Dan. 

1066
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:57,160
Dan runs for Terex Norface Norda
Ultra Scarpa, which is Scarpa's 

1067
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,520
probably better known for the 
climbing shoes and another 

1068
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,160
Adidas. 
So like when you come to trail 

1069
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,160
running, this is where the real 
innovation goes. 

1070
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,840
And now a lot of them say the 
the Nike Ultrafly 2 that Caleb 

1071
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,120
Olson won the race in is a 
prototype. 

1072
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:19,480
OK, so it's not out yet. 
The what one else can I see the 

1073
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:24,920
craft trial? 
It was a prototype, so the 4th 

1074
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,200
in the women. 
There's a lot more prototypes. 

1075
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:30,160
Lots. 
Of trialling shoes prototypes in

1076
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,040
this but I mean just the range 
of different shoes that are you 

1077
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,400
know across the board in trail, 
you know that's where real 

1078
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,920
innovation I suppose is 
happening. 

1079
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,040
It also gives a little bit more 
play because, you know, on the 

1080
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,320
road we all know now the rubber 
and the plate obviously work 

1081
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,680
together and you've got to have 
that. 

1082
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,720
We're on trail. 
There's still a little bit of, 

1083
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,000
you know, I know that of. 
Personal. 

1084
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,280
Preference run in it, but like, 
you know, the killing and Jonat 

1085
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,520
shoe, the normal like it. 
It's got rubber, but it looks a 

1086
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,200
bit more like a traditional 
trail shoe. 

1087
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,760
You know, a bit lower, you know,
lower stacked, whereas the 

1088
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:04,120
Adidas ones are still high 
stacked with some type of like 

1089
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,360
it's not a hard plate, but it's 
got their, I don't know, their 

1090
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,240
proprietary kind of like 3 
pronged blade in it. 

1091
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,320
OK, here's OK, the the Kailas, 
I'm going to say that's how the 

1092
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,440
brands pronounce Kailas. 
Yep, really interesting. 

1093
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,600
Just a quick Google. 
So Kailas, it was founded in 

1094
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,960
2003. 
It's relatively new by a 

1095
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,720
passionate mountain biker, skier
and outdoorsman Baguio Zong in 

1096
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:32,720
China. 
He founded it to address the 

1097
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:34,880
needs of China's growing 
population of campers and 

1098
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,240
trekkers. 
Yeah, so this article I'm 

1099
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:39,840
reading here. 
As it happened, his friendship 

1100
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,440
with numerous dirtbag 
Mountaineers led to the brand 

1101
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,560
developing and producing a 
growing selection of technical 

1102
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,000
mountaineering products for 
these same friends. 

1103
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,040
Kailash, named after Mount 
Kailash, a famous Tibetan 

1104
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,080
pilgrimage mountain, soon found 
itself as a leading figure in 

1105
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,400
China's nascent mountaineering 
community. 

1106
00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:00,600
So basically this is a bloke, 
he's taken passion, his passion 

1107
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,920
for something, combined it with 
a boom that was happening at the

1108
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,920
time, yeah. 
And now it's a what seems like a

1109
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,400
fairly successful little project
for him. 

1110
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,240
Yeah. 
Well, that Fuga that they're 

1111
00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:18,920
running in, so that's got that 
bowler system at the top of the 

1112
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,400
range 1. 
So the Boa system is anyone who 

1113
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,720
rides, you know, push bikes on 
their shoes will know like the 

1114
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:26,720
ratchet system that you actually
wind up. 

1115
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,480
So like as far as you know, like
Salomon, use a speed lace where 

1116
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,880
you lock that speed lace down 
that you've run in. 

1117
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:35,600
The Boa ratchet system's 
heavier. 

1118
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,960
So that's the drawback of it. 
But the argument is that maybe 

1119
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,840
like as you ratchet that down, 
it can't then release at all. 

1120
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:46,040
Both serve the same purpose. 1 
is just done through a ratchet, 

1121
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,360
but there's a bit of a weight, 
you know, I'd say there's a bit 

1122
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,840
of a wait. 
What's the L? 

1123
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,960
What's pounds technology? 
Geez, I don't know what you're 

1124
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,560
telling. 
Me well, no, because the reason 

1125
00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:00,120
I'm I'm as I dig deeper into 
coal ash after eight years of 

1126
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,720
R&D coal ash this is In 2019, 
they launched the world's first 

1127
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:07,040
trail running shoe with pounds 
technology and patented 4 point 

1128
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,960
Gator holder system. 
I'm gonna just guess that is 

1129
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,520
just all marketing jargon for 
something that already exists in

1130
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:14,920
another way. 
And I'm not joking. 

1131
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:20,040
I mean it's like Boa is it was 
in snow boots and bikes load 

1132
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,120
bearing support or lightweight 
stability. 

1133
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,280
Yeah. 
OK, so it is marketing. 

1134
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,640
It's just marketing. 
You know what I am a bit envious

1135
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,280
of? 
As I as I was reading through 

1136
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,320
that list I saw the S Lab Pulsar
4, the Solomon shoe. 

1137
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,080
Their race shoe has been 
upgraded to the four and I don't

1138
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,360
have it. 
This is turning into shoe porn, 

1139
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,200
by the way. 
This is this is turning into 

1140
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,640
proper shoe porn. 
We've descended down a rabbit 

1141
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,960
hole here. 
I apologise 'cause it's rare 

1142
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,560
that we find ourselves down in 
one of these things, but we have

1143
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,480
properly disappeared. 
Courtney has taken us into a 

1144
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,000
deep, dark corner of shoe porn. 
Here to end the podcast, so we 

1145
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,680
apologise. 
Can I just drag us out of your 

1146
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,920
dark dirty closet for a moment, 
Courtney? 

1147
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,000
Sure. 
Gold Coast marathon this 

1148
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,840
weekend, Sydney Major the next 
one on the horizon for a lot of 

1149
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,000
people. 
We know there's gonna the hype 

1150
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,800
around Elliot is gonna start 
building. 

1151
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,800
Kichogo coming to town? 
Jump on YouTube, there's an 

1152
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:12,920
first episode about Elliot's 
journey to Sydney 'cause he's 

1153
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,280
never been to Australia. 
Before I did see it was this one

1154
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,560
that had Kangaroos. 
Well, they show me using 

1155
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,720
Kangaroos. 
I think so. 

1156
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,920
But yeah, but there's a go and 
have a watch of it. 

1157
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,760
It's just gonna start to build 
the excitement. 

1158
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,440
The other great news as well is,
and it shouldn't be, look, it's 

1159
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,640
hard when the shadow of Elliot 
Kipchoga comes along around a 

1160
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,120
marathon to get excited about 
anything else. 

1161
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,600
Everything does kind of get put 
in the shade. 

1162
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:40,360
But Sufan Hassan, who is the 
Netherlands gold medallist from 

1163
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,200
last Olympic, Paris Olympics, 
she signed on, She's coming. 

1164
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:50,440
So this is massive that another 
world class superstar of the 

1165
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,960
sport and Kenya's Bridget Cosgay
is also running. 

1166
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,680
So suddenly this marathon, Yep, 
it's got major classification. 

1167
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,240
But that I guess doesn't entitle
you to, doesn't guarantee a 

1168
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:07,360
great race. 
Suddenly now on paper, Yep, it's

1169
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,080
got the world, the major 
classification. 

1170
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,600
Now you've got a field that is 
worth like, you know, I'm my 

1171
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,240
excitement is really building 
about Sydney. 

1172
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:17,160
Do you know what does guarantee 
you a great race? 

1173
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,280
What's that money? 
Yeah, you're such a silly get. 

1174
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,240
Get back in your dirty. 
Shoe that is awesome. 

1175
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,680
They're all comedy shoe closet. 
It takes a bit to get you. 

1176
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:29,240
You know, I think this is not 
just running like it is hard to,

1177
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,960
you know, get international 
superstars down to Australia 

1178
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,760
just when they're in season. 
It is a long bloody way to 

1179
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,320
travel. 
So it does take something to get

1180
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:39,760
them there and it's great to see
they're all in town. 

1181
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:44,720
Do you know Wayne Larden, the 
race director acquaintance? 

1182
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,320
No, I'm just. 
I just saw his name mention I I 

1183
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,720
don't know Wayne. 
I've never met Wayne. 

1184
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,040
I'm curious to know whether. 
Wayne was a very, very handy 

1185
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,080
runner himself. 
Was he and and around triathlon 

1186
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,040
when I was in my earlier days? 
Here's something just question 

1187
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,960
out of left field to finish the 
pod, do you need to be a good 

1188
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,280
runner or have been a good 
runner to be a good race 

1189
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,120
director? 
No. 

1190
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,360
OK. 
Does it help? 

1191
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,280
Because I'm thinking of the 
analogy of footy coaching to 

1192
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,720
footy players, right? 
I don't think so. 

1193
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,480
I think you just got to be an 
amazingly efficient organiser. 

1194
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,640
OK, Yeah, no, I don't think you 
have to have run a race. 

1195
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,320
I think anything you're doing, 
it's it it's very helpful to be 

1196
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,640
passionate about it. 
There you go. 

1197
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,040
That's probably more important. 
There you go. 

1198
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,440
All right, well, we're. 
Passionate about Have a great 

1199
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,520
call at Gold Coast on this 
weekend and good luck to 

1200
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,600
everyone. 
It's been a long road coming and

1201
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,280
it's on. 
And make sure if you're not 

1202
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,360
already, if you're one of the 
listeners of the podcast and 

1203
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,280
you're not already following the
Instagram account, jump on 

1204
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,520
because I'm going to be taking 
over the Instagram account on 

1205
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,560
Saturday and Sunday morning at 
the Gold Coast Marathon 

1206
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,520
finishing line. 
Amazing. 

1207
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:47,920
All right.
