1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,160 In the beginning, episode 38, we're back. 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,400 Courtney, thank you for the Red Bull at the top of today's app, 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,080 because my God do I need it today. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,440 You've had a week, haven't you? Tell us. 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,080 Tell me the story. Tell me, our listeners, this 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,040 story. If you're not following me on 7 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,680 Instagram and that's fine, feel free to jump on board. 8 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,920 But that's fine. What is my Instagram account? 9 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,040 I should know that. Is it Liam J Flanagan or Liam? 10 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,160 I think it's Liam J Flanagan, Feel free to jump on at the 11 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,280 start of this week. I've been working in radio for 12 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:32,520 12 years now, started in 2012 and I've been in the studio 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,600 environment since 2013. So this is year 12 working in 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,560 the studio environment. You run the desk. 15 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,680 You press. The buttons being in and around 16 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:46,040 the panel as it's called. Up until the start of this week, 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:51,520 I was mistake free. Not mistake, as you know, I've 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,400 taken us off air sometimes, but but from a, you know, 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,520 cleanliness and safety of the studio environment mistake free. 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,080 On Monday's show of the radio breakfast radio show that I 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:10,360 triple M Gold breakfast, I tipped a full cup of coffee into 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,920 the desk. Now if you don't understand the 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,480 gravity of that situation. I mean, you're all there. 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,280 Imagine this is the best. This is the best comparison that 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,440 I have been able to come with up with since I had it. 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:27,320 Imagine if, as you are sitting on the tarmac, the pilot comes 27 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:30,240 on over the loudspeaker and says, sorry, ladies and 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,120 gentlemen, we're going to be delayed slightly. 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,880 My Copart has just tipped an entire cup of coffee into the 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:41,240 console of the plane. Like it is the biggest mistake 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,080 you can make, allowing fluid to get into that desk. 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,400 It is. I think the desk's worth about 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,800 50 grand. What was the immediate reaction 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,480 from Liesel and the spider? Well, no, they they laughed. 35 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,760 Yeah, I would. I said shit and then the the 36 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,560 paper towel emerged from nowhere and suddenly, but I, I it's this 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:06,120 isn't wasn't just a spill, it was a full cup, like a full cup 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:12,240 of coffee into the desk. And to make matters worse, we 39 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,320 have one tech in our office, he was in Tasmania. 40 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,160 So 2 techs had to drive down from Brisbane later that day. 41 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,720 It took that whole studio offline for the entire day. 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,200 And apparently I wasn't there for this moment, but apparently 43 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,480 when the techs took the desk apart, literally it was like a 44 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,560 scene from a a movie where you know when if they bring 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,240 something up from the ocean floor and as it gets to the 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,960 surface, all the water just pours out. 47 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,960 When they took the desk apart, coffee just just still, it was 48 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,840 still there. It was, it was, and the the next 49 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,960 day my boss turned up and presented me with a ceremonial 50 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,240 sippy cup. That's the only thing I'm 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,800 allowed to drink coffee out of in the studio now. 52 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,160 It was. You're never this is this is 53 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,720 this is part of your legacy now? And the radius, yeah, they'll 54 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,440 never be forgotten. It's interesting you mentioned 55 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,080 that though it will never be forgotten, some people are still 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,200 not laughing about it. Everything's fine now, it's 57 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:02,880 fixed. Who, who? 58 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:04,000 Who? Is that guy? 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:04,960 I can't. I can't. 60 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,640 I can't name names, but there are people within my office who 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:14,200 did not and still do not see the funny side to it because because 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,360 the other part about it is we have two studios for Triple M 63 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:23,320 Gold and there's also kind of some shows for the Triple M 64 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,080 network nationally are done out of our studio. 65 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,720 So we need to have two operational studios at any one 66 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,960 time. I essentially cut off one of our 67 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,160 legs for an entire day. So the people that had to deal 68 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,560 with that. It was, it was ongoing and and 69 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,000 then you you leave the office and. 70 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,960 Then I left at. 10:30 and said, I'll see you. 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,640 No, no, no, I'll see you tomorrow morning. 72 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,720 I'll see you tomorrow morning. I left at 901. 73 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,680 The moment we went off air that day, I was gone. 74 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,360 I flew out the door. Well, the good news is you've 75 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,400 still got a job. I'm Yeah, I'm still employed. 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,320 Still employed. Yeah, yeah, but but just. 77 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,360 But I'm not allowed to take coffees in the studio anymore. 78 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,880 He's a ban I've imposed on myself. 79 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,880 That is, I felt for you that day. 80 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,120 I really felt for you that. Quickly, the other update I want 81 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,040 to give everybody, and I'll talk a bit more about this in next 82 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,680 Wednesday's marathon episode with Bronte and Benita. 83 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,600 But I made the decision because the offer came to participate in 84 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,640 a photo shoot for the Gold Coast Marathon this year by local 85 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,040 photographer Paul Harris. Yeah, I obviously then made the 86 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,200 decision to pull out of the marathon. 87 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,000 I made the decision to still go ahead with the photo shoot. 88 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,280 Oh, they were good. They were good. 89 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,560 Or you or or you're still, you're not officially off the 90 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,160 list, so I'm not official. I'm still on the entry list. 91 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,920 You still have a number. Did you have to do business when 92 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,120 you get photo? No, no, no. 93 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,680 So. But I, I This is why I wanted to 94 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,120 ask you because professional athlete for two decades, you 95 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,600 would have been through hundreds of these things photo shoots. 96 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,720 Would have but but before we get to me, I want to know what 97 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,920 happened on your day. Well, This is why I want to get 98 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,440 Bronte Bronte. Bronte did it on a different 99 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,800 day. So Bronte did it all together. 100 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,040 Bronte did that. More pressure. 101 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,280 No, it's one on one. 01 on one's better than having is it aid? 102 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,200 Well, I think if you've got you know, you're you're getting 103 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,280 photographed doing whatever you're asked to do and then 104 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:10,640 you're Bronte and everyone else standing there watching. 105 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,880 That's more pressure than one on. 106 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,320 One well, for anybody out there who's never done a photo shoot 107 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:20,480 before, you feel I felt like an absolute twit, Like I just felt 108 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,720 like a wanker for for for the for that. 109 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,400 No, I look and Paul was amazing. He's an amazing photographer. 110 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,680 It was great to get to work with him. 111 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:35,480 But what happened was I got I, I met him because he's doing a 112 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,160 water thing. So he's seeing how water plays 113 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,880 with runners. And So what I had to do in 114 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,360 Varsity Lakes, on the side of the street in Varsity Lakes, OH. 115 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,000 OK, this is now getting interesting. 116 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,720 Yeah, I had to. What Paul had me do was run and 117 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,080 then when I hit a certain spot, throw a cup of water in my face. 118 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,680 Well, the public's driving past you. 119 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,440 OK, this this this. Sounds like a rogue. 120 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,680 This isn't a this isn't a this is a rogue photo shoot. 121 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,920 So the only people who'd be comfortable with this, yeah, is 122 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,560 young kids who are on Instagram and TikTok and that sort of 123 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,760 thing. They this is normal activity 124 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,000 now. I think this is a trend, but so 125 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:23,400 I, I, I count, I kept count I / 25 takes of me with probably 126 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,240 AA67 metre run up. Yeah. 127 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,960 Trying to hit a certain spot while at the same time throw a 128 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,360 cup of water into my own face from different angles, from 129 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,040 high, from in front, literally there was, I think it was in the 130 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,840 first three, I threw the entire cup of water up my nose and I 131 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:45,120 was, and but then I'm running around with water up my nose and 132 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,400 I'm thinking this can't be making for good flash. 133 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,440 Yeah, flashes and all the rest of it like external flash. 134 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,000 Yeah, we had the the 2. So this is so I was gonna say 135 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,680 there's two types of photographers. 136 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:01,400 OK, this is inexperience, right? You've got the photographer who 137 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,480 is like more a studio photographer and that's what he 138 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,200 sounds like. He's like trying to achieve is 139 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,720 like the perfect flash at the perfect time, the perfect run 140 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,600 stance and getting it at that time. 141 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,880 And that is a bloody nightmare. Or the let's call you the 142 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,280 talent, the situation, the model. 143 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:23,160 It is a nightmare because it's the photographer wanting to get 144 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,680 their perfect. You know, it's one thing. 145 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,320 Then you get which I'll call more the the the looser modern 146 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,040 photographers who probably more they're very like around action 147 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,000 sports. Mm hmm. 148 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,160 Natural light shoot really high shutter rates. 149 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,840 So like they'll get 30 shots, they'll make you do it twice and 150 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:40,800 then go. I've got one. 151 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,200 I've there'll be some walk away. OK, my favourites. 152 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,520 Right, 100%, no. This was very much the studio 153 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,200 photographer set up. He had me do a test shot for 154 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,840 lighting flash. I was trying to hit the certain 155 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,640 spot at the certain. And then in the end it was fun 156 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,560 though 'cause obviously I'm trying to return to running a 157 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,440 little bit at the moment. And he sort of said, right, can 158 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,160 I try and get you running a bit faster? 159 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,880 I was like, oh, I don't know. We'll we'll find out. 160 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,400 Like don't put my car in yet. But after I did these run 161 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,040 through shots, then we carried the big lighting equipment stuff 162 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,200 down into kind of there's a little mangrovey foresty type 163 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,840 spot off the side of the road. And the next challenge I had was 164 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:24,640 to hold a a sort of a tub of water above my head and then tip 165 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,960 it creating a bit of a waterfall type sheet of water in front of 166 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,040 my face and pull it back at the same time. 167 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,400 It felt like remember as a kid used to, they used to say pat 168 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,000 your head and rub your stomach at the same time and all whilst 169 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,520 trying to give a an intense focused look down the barrel of. 170 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,400 Your best zoo Lander down the barrel. 171 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,960 It's, you know, all I'm thinking is you've pulled out and they're 172 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,040 just taking the piss out of here. 173 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,400 Yeah, you. Joke. 174 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,840 But I messaged Bronte straight afterwards and I'm like, how did 175 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,080 yours go? And she said, honestly, if 176 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,120 someone turns around and tells me tomorrow in the radio studio 177 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,760 that this was a prank, I'd believe him because that felt 178 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,240 ridiculous. She did the same thing. 179 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,480 She did a bit of a different one. 180 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,480 She was in Paul's studios. I can't wait to see the photos. 181 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,560 I'm really looking forward. I've looked at Paul's photos. 182 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:09,800 I think they're fantastic. Yeah, I can't wait to see them. 183 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,120 Me too. The process how the sausage was 184 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,000 made. Yep. 185 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,520 It was an eye opener. The other thing with running, 186 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,200 running photos is the hardest thing is get the right running 187 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,080 stance and photographer. They said another thing they've 188 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,760 had with over the years, like people who know running kind of 189 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,080 know what running, looking nice running will look like. 190 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,920 Non running photographers, they're looking at their, their 191 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,600 perspective of what they're looking for in a running shot is 192 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,360 completely different. It's like, you know what, 193 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,520 where's the background, the focus you face and then it 194 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,400 you've got your leg half in half stance and it and you're like, 195 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,080 you're not even running in a still photo. 196 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,080 That's that's a nightmare. Over your years, yeah. 2 Olympic 197 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,840 Games, World Championships, nurses, everything. 198 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,360 What's the dumbest photo shoot you've had to participate in? 199 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,520 Or the weirdest? OK. 200 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:02,440 Hands down the weirdest going to 208 Beijing. 201 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:05,960 So I went to the 2008 Olympics with FedEx. 202 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:11,160 OK sponsor so cool. International Curry Company and 203 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,800 they had a advert and we'll find this and I'll put this up for 204 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,040 those who watch the video on on Spotify or I'll put the photo 205 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,720 up. The idea was to get me half 206 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,760 athlete, half FedEx delivery man. 207 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,720 I want to see this so badly already so. 208 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,800 You can imagine I raced in skin suits with a helmet. 209 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:34,840 Oh. My God. 210 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,160 So I had literally had a cycling helmet on my skin suit, racing 211 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:44,000 suit which had the FedEx logo, half a pair of run shoes, and 212 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,560 then on the other side of the image is me in a FedEx delivery 213 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:51,040 man suit. So the FedEx logo on my chest 214 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,600 blends but my face is in half with half a FedEx hat, half a 215 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,280 helmet. It's weird. 216 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:02,560 The irony of that is the same day I had to do a an activation 217 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:05,320 for them in now I think it's Martin Place in Sydney. 218 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,880 Is that the main kind of Yep, comes down some steps? 219 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,400 The main pedestrian mall section. 220 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:10,820 Yep. Mm. 221 00:11:10,820 --> 00:11:12,440 Hmm. So pretty much they did an 222 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,840 activation, their CEO at the time came out to meet me in a 223 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,600 suit and I'm in my race suit. Oh my God. 224 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,920 And I got on a tandem bike with him and did some laps around 225 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,160 Martin Place with video cameras as an. 226 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,800 We have to find this footage. I don't know if I can find the 227 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,120 video. I've got the image and that was 228 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,080 like at the time. This is when I talk about being 229 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:39,280 in a in a small fish bowl. But Can you imagine watching 230 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,280 that? I mean, it's probably, it's 231 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:41,840 actually probably not that different. 232 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,400 It probably goes on every day in Sydney city at the moment. 233 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,800 But you know, at that time I'm a young, I would have been, you 234 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,920 know, I can't even remember. I'm in my 20s and I'm riding 235 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,080 around on a tandem bike in the middle of Sydney with Aceo in my 236 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,480 Lycra. In my Lycra to the things you 237 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,520 do. Were you at the front of the 238 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,320 back? I can't. 239 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,640 I would have been steering the things you would have had to be 240 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,600 sure for sure. The general flip side, the CEO 241 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,080 going, what's my company putting what into? 242 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,720 And this is like a major, whoever the agency was that come 243 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,240 up with that idea actually. The image is the idea. 244 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,040 The image was fun. In the The concept's a good 245 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,680 idea, right? And if they're looking to get 246 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:21,680 banged for their buck out of you, as a sponsored athlete, I'd 247 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:23,000 be making you do some weird stuff. 248 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,840 Too and then to follow the story on SO for years and and I'm 249 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,680 sorry, I can't I can't remember the name, but our local FedEx 250 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:33,440 guy. So as part of the deal I had, 251 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,400 you know, as part of the deal, you've probably got an X amount 252 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,120 of dollars of being able to FedEx crapper across the world 253 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,000 and whatever else. All right, so the local. 254 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000 FedEx could be your. Bike and stuff, yeah, because 255 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,800 like wind trainers and wheels, we could send them across to 256 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,560 Europe before we travel. So it was brilliant. 257 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,720 We had our local FedEx guy who would always come and deliver. 258 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,600 He knew me, but they had these life's like life, life size 259 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,760 cutouts of this same image in the FedEx stores where you went 260 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,440 to pick up his stuff. That's brilliant. 261 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,640 I never went into. The store. 262 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,240 Oh, you. What do you mean I? 263 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,160 Never went into the store. Oh my God, Can you imagine 264 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,640 walking in and seeing yourself in your lycra in the thing? 265 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:15,640 If there's anybody out there who has any connection to FedEx and 266 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,600 you think by chance we could find one of these cardboard 267 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,880 cutouts of Courtney as the half FedEx, half athlete, I would. 268 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,760 I'd pay good money for it, right? 269 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,720 Well, not good, but I'd pay some money for it to get my hands on 270 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:28,680 one of those. Yeah. 271 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:31,760 So that's, I mean by far that was, there's been plenty, but 272 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:32,960 that was definitely the weirdest. 273 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,640 Can I take you into some Sporting News Right of. 274 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,040 Course. Well, let's get back to sport. 275 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,800 It's let's get back to some sport it it's running related, 276 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:46,400 but it's still some general sport, the call and get a goal. 277 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,040 One of the iconic sporting. I think it's one of the iconic 278 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,520 sporting events in Australia. I think it's a uniquely 279 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,040 Australian event. Well, back from the 80s it was. 280 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,200 It was a legacy event from the 80s that it made TV. 281 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Exactly. And it was for those that it it 282 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,560 was, it was actually out of a movie script. 283 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,080 So it's, it's, it was 1984 Grant. 284 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,840 Kenny, right, was the. Colin Frills was the actor, but 285 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,200 yeah, Grant Kenny was in it, and it was this awesome movie that 286 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:19,240 then became a race. So great staple on the Gold 287 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,120 Coast calendar and the surf lifesaving calendar. 288 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,960 So you've got some news for me. But there's a big change. 289 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,680 There's a big change coming, the Coolangatta Gold because it's a 290 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,480 grind, right? It's meant to be a grinding race 291 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,600 that you. Well, yeah, in context, you used 292 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,000 to go from surface all the way to Coolangatta and back, and it 293 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,320 had this, you know, like a location, part of these races. 294 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,200 To me, what makes these great endurance events, whether it's 295 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,520 coast to coast in New Zealand, Hawaii, Iron Man Gold cooling 296 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,360 out of gold was always about, it's not just about the race, 297 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,360 it's about the location of having the story. 298 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,480 You go to there right to the end and back. 299 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,840 And then what over the years they did is they kept shortening 300 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,360 it, shortening it. And I think effectively in the 301 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,960 end they used to just run it out of cool and gather and do a. 302 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,280 Like circles? Yeah. 303 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,360 So what's happened this year? So for those that aren't aware, 304 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:12,080 what it was, was a the distances originally 14K. 305 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,400 Oh no, that's the shortened one. Sorry. 306 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,680 Because what's happened is that it's shortened so that I'll, 307 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,120 I'll run you through the new distances of this race. 308 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:26,200 It used to be a 23 kilometre surf scheme for this year, it's 309 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,600 been reduced to 14 KS. OK, The swim used to be 3 1/2 310 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,120 K's. It's now a 2K swim. 311 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,120 The board was a 6.1 K board paddle. 312 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,920 It's now a 4K board paddle. When the run used to be 9.2 313 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,880 kilometres, it's now a 5 kilometre run. 314 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,960 So the race itself has been reduced in total distance by 315 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,760 about 40%. I mean, yeah, I'll go back to 316 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,840 the the idea of the locations. You used to get out of Burley, 317 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,960 out of the swim. You used to swim around the 318 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,680 headland, get out of the water and run from Burley all the way 319 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,120 along the beach to service Paradise. 320 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,440 Iconic. Doing laps up and down, cool and 321 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,280 gather or palming or wherever they go. 322 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,920 Not the same. So what do you? 323 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,080 But what I guess the question that's being asked about the 324 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,560 cool and gather gold now is, is it still the cool and gather 325 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,480 gold? No, you don't. 326 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,000 You won't. You don't consider it now the 327 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,960 cool and gather gold under this new shortened format. 328 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,520 I when they moved from starting a surface paradise at that point 329 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,400 it wasn't the same cool and gather gold to me. 330 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,480 Right. And it's probably quite, I mean 331 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,560 probably at the very similar time, I probably didn't follow 332 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,000 along as closely once it wasn't that true race. 333 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,800 So because the short shorten partners, the other development 334 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,240 with it is it's now going to be part of the Iron Series. 335 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,400 So now it's going to be a race within the series. 336 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:43,320 Previously it has stood alone as its own event outside of the 337 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,080 Surf Life Saving Series. Now it is going to be shortened 338 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,080 and it's going to be a part of the series. 339 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:57,480 Yep, which Which in theory seems OK, but it is a stand alone 340 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,800 event. I mean that's what made it 341 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,640 unique. It was a one off event. 342 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,520 I don't know. I don't know, I. 343 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,680 Mean you look at Ali Day, obviously the ten time winner of 344 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,720 the race. If someone wins it this year, 345 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,640 will you consider them a cool and get a gold winner in the 346 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,400 same fashion that Ali is or that Matt Bevel Aqua has been in the 347 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,760 past? My honest, I'd never probably 348 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,680 give it that much thought to give it a like. 349 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,000 I don't it isn't it isn't I suppose it and that's and that 350 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,800 is the problem. It doesn't hold the same 351 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,840 relevance for me anymore because it's not the original. 352 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,680 I was I I'm old enough to remember as a kid watching, you 353 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,960 know, the Mercers and and and even the probably not as far as 354 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,120 Kyle Leach. Yeah, but watching all of the 355 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:45,800 guys when they was on TV and that type of thing and it had, I 356 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,400 loved it for what it was. Soon as they changed the course 357 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,560 and they weren't doing the same course as the old days, it's 358 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,360 like taking the let's look at it this way. 359 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:55,160 It's like going this has happened. 360 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,520 Has the Hawaii Iron Man when they moved the male World Iron 361 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:05,560 Man championship race to Nice in France, did that have the same 362 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,480 impact as winning that for the men or the women when they 363 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,040 change it? So are you across that they had 364 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,040 no So what they did it's. The Kona isn't it? 365 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,520 No. So a few years ago the men's, so 366 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,840 they used to run the the Kona as the women's race. 367 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,600 A few years ago they split it so they had the men only and the 368 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,320 women raced in Nice. I didn't even know that. 369 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,920 My point? You didn't know. 370 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,240 You just think it runs in Kona. Yeah. 371 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,000 So when the men didn't race in the Kona that year and the world 372 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,880 championship was over in France, does that have to say when you 373 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,080 win it in France, is it the same as winning it in Kona? 374 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,560 I mean, you can still call yourself a world champion as 375 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:42,760 long. But you didn't win the Hawaii 376 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:43,920 man. Didn't win the Hawaii man. 377 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,640 It's not the Hawaii man. So my point that that's my point 378 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,160 stands when you've got iconic races that are built on 379 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,400 locations, you move the location or you move the change the 380 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,000 course, it doesn't have the same impact. 381 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:58,960 There we go. Yeah, I like it. 382 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,440 All right, let's move on from the call. 383 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,080 We go all. Right, let's get into a bit of 384 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,160 FUD. What do we got here? 385 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,240 Emmy to runners, You'll love this one, OK? 386 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,840 James, huge F out there today. How do you reflect on today's 387 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,200 run? Yeah, you know, tough conditions 388 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,440 out there today, bit of wind, bit of sun, bit of indigestion. 389 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,320 But you know, 5K in 2842, you'll you'll take that all day long at 390 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,960 this level. You start strong, 512 first 391 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,080 kilometre. Regret that. 392 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,960 Yeah. Massively came out like Kip 393 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,880 Chogi finished like someone chasing a bin truck and slippers 394 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,240 happens. Rookie stuff. 395 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,960 There was a walk break near the duck pond, correct? 396 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:37,080 Yeah. Had to reset. 397 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:40,280 Heart rate was in the red. Some bloke walking his dog gave 398 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,280 me the you're right mate look. And you know, that broke me a 399 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,680 bit. And what do you say to the 400 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,920 critics calling this just a jog, Jog. 401 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,760 Listen, that was a battle. Medical warfare legs win at 3K 402 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:57,680 Soul left the chat for. But Strava doesn't lie. 403 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,320 I earned No 6 kudos. And finally, James, 404 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,120 congratulations, You're our Powerade man of the miles today. 405 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:08,000 So that's when Jamie runs strong and he's if Sunday joggers got 406 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,960 the Premier League treatment. That is bang on. 407 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,080 It's very well done, I It's a great byproduct of the running 408 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,160 boom that we're getting more of this sort of content. 409 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,360 To that point though, this. This happens. 410 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,080 I've seen it. Oh, on YouTube I've done. 411 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:26,400 It Oh, you've done it. I've I've done this that run for 412 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,560 a had that feeling. For a close friends group. 413 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,040 Right. Oh, yeah, yeah. 414 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,040 It's not publicly. No, no, no, I wouldn't do that 415 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,480 publicly. No, no, that'd be ridiculous. 416 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,880 But there is everything you just spoke about then is that he's 417 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,560 nailed all the all the parts there of Sunday jokes. 418 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,000 I'm back to being a Sunday joker, by the way. 419 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,400 I'll tell you a bit more about that later on. 420 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,000 But yeah, very nice work. I liked that one that. 421 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,920 Was a good one. The other thing is there's a 422 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,600 question about run clubs. Let's just stay on the run club 423 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:50,840 and the image running at the moment. 424 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:53,840 I fear run clubs have gone too far. 425 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,640 And then people agreeing with me. 426 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,120 Miami. So over in the United States, 427 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:05,240 there was a there's we'll, we'll share the reel by by I was going 428 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:11,120 to be able to say by on day by Bondi Bondi Bondi Bondi run club 429 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:14,520 were in the on news.com yesterday, same issue, people 430 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,080 having issue of them running out and this is ridiculous. 431 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:22,080 So this is the statement. This is now becoming a marathon 432 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,520 without permits. Yeah. 433 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,600 Can this keep going? Can if, if, if run clubs keep 434 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,880 growing, what is going to happen? 435 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,520 You know, places like. By Honda. 436 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,640 By Honda. Yeah, council's going to get 437 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,720 involved. Yeah, council's going to get 438 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:44,840 involved because you reach a point where, and I went through 439 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,080 this with the 440 in Sydney. Now, people out there listening 440 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,280 to this may or may not know what the 4440 is, but when I started 441 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:57,160 with the 440 back in 2016, it was 10, sort of anywhere between 442 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,680 6 to 12 people. Very early on, on a Saturday 443 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:06,000 morning, we'd meet down at the cutting in Bronte, run 10 laps 444 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,000 of the cutting, you do a little over 7 KS, get some good 445 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,680 elevation in with the hills, you jump in the ocean and then you'd 446 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,400 leave. Over the years it grew, it grew, 447 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,040 it grew, it grew, it grew. And now it is a perfect example 448 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,960 of the influence of running culture where they get in excess 449 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,680 of a hundred 150 people, 200 people every Saturday morning. 450 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,640 And that street becomes borderline unusable for cars. 451 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,800 And it's a danger issue, right? And I don't know how Noxie, the 452 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,080 fellow that runs it, navigated it with the councils, but I know 453 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,920 it became an issue at a point and he became really strict on 454 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,440 trying to keep people onto the path, onto the path. 455 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,040 But you just cut, it's too many people, right? 456 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,160 It becomes unachievable. So you'll get to a point with 457 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,120 any group when it gets to a certain size like the Sydney run 458 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:54,280 club is down in Bondi. Like this thing is Miami where 459 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,240 it eats itself, right? It becomes a victim of its own 460 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,720 success. And personally, I look at run 461 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,640 clubs of that size and I might, for me, I've got no desire to be 462 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,800 involved in a run club of that size because there's, how do you 463 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,440 know anybody? Run clubs for me are about 464 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,360 connection, about community. That's not I don't see how you 465 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,960 can be connected in a group of that size. 466 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:21,960 It might feel very connected because there's so many of you, 467 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,120 but how do you know anybody? Yeah, I suppose it's like going 468 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:27,680 to a festival, isn't it? You're just going along with the 469 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,280 masses. It's about that feeling. 470 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,840 You've nailed it though. It's supposed. 471 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,200 It's like going along to a festival. 472 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,520 What do festivals need to have? Permits council approval, 473 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,880 permits licences, all that stuff to coordinate stuff because 474 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,800 these run groups start selling stuff now. 475 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,560 Right on. You need licences for that sort 476 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,640 of stuff. Fair. 477 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,600 If you grow and you and you create all this and you create 478 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,400 this world around your run club, I'm stoked for you. 479 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,920 But when you get to a level, you accept that as you rise up, you 480 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,240 need to have more things to continue to function and 481 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,760 operate. That's the reality. 482 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,640 I mean, I hate the fact that, well, you know something when it 483 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,280 starts off so community driven and you know, for the right 484 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,480 reasons and it start has to start to have permits and all 485 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,880 that. But the reality is there like I 486 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,360 mean this one over in the States and then like it's making news 487 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:18,000 now, it's gonna probably come to a head at some time. 488 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,760 You know the one thing you forgot about 4:40? 489 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,120 You said everything you do. You forgot the group photo. 490 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:26,640 And the group photo was really easy to coordinate with only six 491 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,760 or ten of us every morning. Boom, Everybody just jump in 492 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,800 here when there's 150 people, all right? 493 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,200 You just move right? Can we just get no that by the 494 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,400 end? Honestly, by the time we got to 495 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,280 that point, my mates and I who we'd go run down there, there 496 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,360 was four of us. We would finish the run, jump 497 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,440 straight in the pool and go get a coffee and they'd all still be 498 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,880 lining up for the photo. Now the I don't want to do this 499 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,320 next one. This you put this on the run 500 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,000 sheet. I, I want to end this. 501 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,880 I what you're about to bring up. I don't, I, I think you talk 502 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,440 about reaching its tipping point, bursting the bubble, 503 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,560 etcetera, whatever, but it's done the. 504 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,240 Reason I put it in is this has to stop. 505 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,920 I want I want legislation to make this illegal. 506 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,160 Have a listen to this. In eight days I'm going to be 507 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,280 running what's called an Ultramurf and an Ultramurf is 508 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,520 where you run a marathon, do 1000 pull ups, then you do 2000 509 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,080 push ups, then you do 3000 squads and then you run another 510 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,520 marathon, all while wearing a £20 weighted best. 511 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,320 This is something that really hasn't been done before and I 512 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,200 think it's been done before, but I'm not sure. 513 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:27,840 We're just going to go try and set a record. 514 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,320 If I can do it under 24 hours, I'm pretty sure that's going to 515 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,160 be a world record. So that's what we're going to go 516 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,200 for on Memorial Day doing an ultra Murph and see if we can 517 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,120 set a record in the process. Do you want to run an ultra 518 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:40,600 Murph? So do you think I can do this in 519 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,400 24 hours? I think I can. 520 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,120 And if you don't think I can and. 521 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,640 I don't want to run an ultra murph but. 522 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,880 What? Here's what. 523 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,640 I'm not sure if this has been done, but I couldn't do it. 524 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,840 I'm going to break a world record. 525 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:58,040 This has to stop people making up their own shit. 526 00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:00,240 Yeah, for the sake of making up stuff to do. 527 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,120 I was talking about this just to someone the other day that 528 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,640 remember when running a really long way felt special or unique. 529 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,840 I do. It doesn't feel that way 530 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,400 anymore. There's been you've you've 531 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,360 started to see some of this just even about marathons, is it? 532 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:21,360 But marathons don't feel special anymore. 533 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,640 I I agree, I used to, I used to think someone doing an Ironman 534 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,960 was and I was in, I was, I was an Olympic Games triathlete and 535 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,800 I used to watch people doing an Ironman and going wow. 536 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,480 That then become, I've said this before, like in a corporate 537 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,400 environment, in a corporate office in the middle of the 538 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,200 city, doing an Ironman on the weekend was like, oh, that, 539 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,560 that's not enough anymore. Do you not get that feeling when 540 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,560 you see someone doing so who you know, post that they've 541 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,600 completed an Iron Man? Nowadays, no, no, because there 542 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,560 would be enough people who have. I mean, over time, right? 543 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,880 There's enough people have gone through and now do Iron Man's, 544 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,320 but now people do Iron Man's as their first triathlon. 545 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:09,720 And now people go and create the ultra mirth so. 546 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,480 I don't know where I actually I, there's an interesting one in 547 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,920 endurance sports right at the moment because I just don't, I'm 548 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:24,880 just not sure where you go when the normalisation of such long 549 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,440 multi day events that we're getting away from that, that 550 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,920 that social post now. But just in general, like you've 551 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,720 got these backyard ultras, you've got everything going on 552 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,280 ultra, ultra, ultra stuff is getting so normalised. 553 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,040 What what is impressive? There you go. 554 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,480 There's a question What is impressive? 555 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,800 Now that's good. What is impressive? 556 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,360 I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you what is. 557 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:50,600 Impressive. You tell me what's impressive. 558 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,520 When you you bring it back to something that is normalised in 559 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,640 a race and you do that bloody quick and win, that is 560 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,400 impressive. Just to put a a full stop on old 561 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,760 mate here, the buff runner. What shits me about it or no? 562 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,200 I don't know if it shits me, but it didn't. 563 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,160 The thing that makes me go like this is impressive. 564 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,360 Don't get me wrong. When he does this, when he runs 565 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:16,280 a marathon 1000 pull ups to when he does this Ultramarth, it's an 566 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,360 impressive physical effort, right? 567 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:25,440 What I think frustrates me or makes me go about it all is that 568 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,760 he said in the caption to this. Do you think I can do it? 569 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:34,760 Drop a follow to watch me right? You are doing this because you 570 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:40,440 want to become famous. Yeah, well, I mean, we, we 571 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,600 accept that. I just think even the the middle 572 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,320 ground of when he said, I'm not sure if anyone has done this, 573 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,720 but maybe it is. Maybe it's a first. 574 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,640 I'll just call it a world record like. 575 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,880 It's and you don't know we need we need something you're right, 576 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,440 what's impressive anymore and we need something better than a 577 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,160 world record, you know, 'cause. I feel like, do you know the 578 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,800 problem where what is we can sit here and say that all that, but 579 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,600 you know what stops that other people stop encouraging it and 580 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,960 we're sitting here. Stop enabling. 581 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,920 Stop enabling these people creating their own world 582 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,720 records. Stop it. 583 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,000 Tell him to go and try and win the CrossFit. 584 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,280 What do you call the CrossFit Games or whatever? 585 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,000 Yep, that's what he should be doing. 586 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,240 The other that's that's what he should be doing. 587 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,600 If you want to put your. Effort into something, go and 588 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,840 compete where everyone competes. The thing about social media is 589 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,440 that if you think about it, your social media is your TV station 590 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,000 to for the old people out there, for the young kids out there 591 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,960 that might be listening who don't know what ATV station is, 592 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,320 it's your YouTube channel, right? 593 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,840 It's your own station. It's your own brand. 594 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,720 What you this guy's is trying to programme his brand, his his 595 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:54,040 station with this sort of content and by it's kind of like 596 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,600 announcing a big blockbuster movie on your station. 597 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,360 Hey I'm doing this coming up instead of, you know, just the 598 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,440 normal programming so I understand the algorithm of it 599 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,760 all, but it's so tiring. Enough's enough. 600 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,480 Yeah. Now to be real hypocrites, let's 601 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,120 get on to our you know what? Let's get on to our make. 602 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,760 Sure, you're tuned in to win the Beginning Podcast to win a 603 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,720 watch. I love your radio voice. 604 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,920 Yeah, well, let's move on. Straight up, yeah. 605 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,960 That is that's the most hypocritical moment in podcast 606 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,720 history that we're shitting on this bloke for going out and 607 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,840 trying something and then going now. 608 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,200 Listen to our podcast and leave a review. 609 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,760 Yeah, but we ain't saying that's a world first. 610 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,440 No, what's it podcast First. First time we've ever done a 611 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,480 giveaway. For the podcast, for us, for us, 612 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,520 yeah. So remind us that last week we 613 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,320 said two weeks of two weeks. The the Polar giveaway said 614 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,680 thanks to Polar, we're halfway the H10 heart rate monitor and 615 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,640 the Polar Pacer Polar Pacer GPS running watch. 616 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,720 It's a watch. It's a running watch. 617 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,120 It's a running watch. It'll it'll help you do those 618 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,160 things we've talked about on the Polar episode. 619 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,440 Can I can I talk about the H10? You can, I've been using it. 620 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,200 Oh, you have? Yep. 621 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:03,960 You tried it. Yep. 622 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,560 And here's what I will tell everybody out there who runs off 623 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,960 a wristwatch sensor, heart rate sensor. 624 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,520 It's not accurate. The the the wristwatch. 625 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:21,240 Wristwatch no is not accurate. I, I think I sat here multiple 626 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,800 times telling anyone with a wrist, I mean, there might be a 627 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,040 certain minute situation where it's the perfect environment and 628 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,720 you've got the perfect wrist and even they're. 629 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,520 Not at first. If you are running with a wrist 630 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,480 sensor only and you think you've your Zone 2 is oh, you're 631 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,960 running in your Zone 2, you are not that. 632 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,760 And that's my personal learnings from having been running with 633 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,400 this thing for a week. I'm like whoa, my heart rate. 634 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,640 I am working a lot harder than I thought I was on these 5 minute 635 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,600 runs. I thought a 515 pace was my Zone 636 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,560 toothpaste. It is not. 637 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,480 My Zone toothpaste is a lot slower than what I thought it 638 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,640 was because I've been wearing one of these H10 paces. 639 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,000 And getting getting the proper data. 640 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,200 Yeah, if you want to run, If you want to use data properly, get 641 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,360 a, get a. Chest strap A chest strap. 642 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,520 Or at least go to the arm strap. I mean that that's the middle 643 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,920 ground, but chest strap. So yeah, I do think so with 644 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,360 this. So again, we'll leave this open 645 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,840 for another week. And what we said is send us in a 646 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,520 review. I think we used the word review 647 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,720 I. Know, and I think I can't 648 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,760 remember his name, but one gentleman in particular was a 649 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,360 bit frustrated because he's like, where do I leave a review 650 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,520 on Spotify? Yeah. 651 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,880 So yeah, Nick, Nick also is, is it just reviews that count or 652 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,320 other platforms and a like you're over complicating it for 653 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,040 us. Even here. 654 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,720 All we want to do is leave a comment. 655 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,040 Comments count, comments count. Tick the five stars make us seem 656 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,160 great. Thank you to everyone who's sent 657 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,400 in. And we'd let us like even fear 658 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,440 about the one thing I even love more than just saying, you know, 659 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,040 thanks fellas, is giving us some, you know, info on, you 660 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,520 know, what you want to hear or, you know, in the future or 661 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,240 letting us know what you do like, because then we can 662 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,080 obviously make sure we're talking about some of the 663 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,000 things. I know that one was who who is 664 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,560 sending? I love the footy. 665 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,280 Love the footy chat, Jared, Love the footy chat. 666 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,480 More and more of that please, fellas. 667 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,640 Now, not everyone's gonna like the footy chat, but we'll cover, 668 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,320 you know, a little bit wider than just running. 669 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,480 Can I just share that to BJ, who I think might have I don't know 670 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,000 where he's got this phrase from, but I do love the he's signed 671 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,080 off his comment with keep up the great work boys and stay out of 672 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,280 yourselves. Now, I assume that means don't 673 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,600 disappear up your own backside, do. 674 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,800 You know where that's come from. Where alpha blokes yes, it's 675 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,200 great, it's great. I've never I. 676 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,640 Wrote I did see that one. I said it was straight back to 677 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,880 him. I said yeah, fellow Alpha blokes 678 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,400 listener. Who's Kel? 679 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,520 Kelso? Rumour has it Ned Brockman only 680 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,560 run across Australia, so Liam could talk about it on this 681 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,320 part. All right, OK. 682 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,680 It's good to know we've got some smartness. 683 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,480 Love, love everyone coming around. 684 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,040 Some of the some of the questions also that you were 685 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,320 talking about, we'll get to the ones that actually have some 686 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,800 information there in further episodes. 687 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,840 I will say a big shout out too. I've, I've really appreciated 688 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,360 the messages off the back of pulling out of the marathon. 689 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,600 The amount of people who've messaged me saying it's great to 690 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,120 hear you talking about this because I'm training or I'm 691 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,080 struggling or I've had a slump or I've had an injury. 692 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,320 And yeah, you feel, you feel crap. 693 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,679 It feels it. But then when you hear it, oh 694 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,960 this is so common it makes you feel less crap. 695 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,159 Well, they're going, yeah, there's, there's people who've 696 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,040 written in saying we're going through the same thing. 697 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,800 You know, we're injured. We can't run the marathon, you 698 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,199 know, and, and that's the truth, right? 699 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:36,560 And there'll be another day for sure. 700 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:38,719 And what the other one that keeps coming through is this 701 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,840 quite this thing around the Queenstown Marathon? 702 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,280 Because you're running the Queenstown Marathon. 703 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,040 Apparently, apparently I am. That is a rumour that is 704 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,080 completely, completely founded on no truth at all. 705 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,760 What I will say is I'm just trying to find who it was who 706 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,960 rode in and said forget the Queenstown Marathon, come up to 707 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,600 Nelson. Where's Nelson? 708 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,720 I don't even know where Nelson. Is so Nelson is up the north. 709 00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:06,400 Here we go, Luke Smith wrote in. Hey boys, love the pod before 710 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,960 booking your flights to Queenstown. 711 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,000 I haven't booked my flights. You should check out an amazing 712 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,800 running event in Nelson in December. 713 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,560 It's called Run the Spectacle and they have huge events 714 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,200 varying from a mile race at the centre of town to 100 mile trail 715 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,560 run, 7000 metres of elevation and everything in between. 716 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,400 It's a real event for the town and the whole weekend the town's 717 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,400 buzzing. Check it out. 718 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:31,440 He's pretty much saying come here instead of Queens the. 719 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,000 Spectacle seeing is believing. 5th of the 6th of December. 720 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,360 Oh, it looks amazing. So my my adventure mentor, Rich 721 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,200 Usher owns Cable Bay Adventure Park in Nelson. 722 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,080 So I have been up there. So he's got a mountain bike 723 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,920 trailer. He's got a Now I'm going to get 724 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,880 in trouble for saying this, but I believe it may be the longest. 725 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,040 What would you call it? Cable Flying Fox. 726 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,480 Oh cool, I'm going to just. Throw it out there in the 727 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,120 Southern hemisphere, but it's. Someone will tell us. 728 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,080 So you literally you sit in a a ski lift, so four person ski 729 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,240 chair. Oh, cool, Oh, cool, And you get 730 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:11,880 flung across the valley, like I'm talking like a good few K 731 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,280 across the valley in there. So that's Richard's place. 732 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,400 If you're ever in Nelson, go and have a go and have a visit the 733 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,280 cable. Bar look, this is, I mean that 734 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,320 is I don't know how long the spectacles been running, but 735 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:28,480 great way for a town to host a running event because they're 736 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,480 looking and just on the surface, there's something for everyone. 737 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,360 There's relay races, there's short, there's a mile race, 738 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,920 there's a 5K race on the roads. And then when you get into the 739 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,240 trail run, there's everything from 10 to 100 miles. 740 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:43,840 So literally it is something for everybody. 741 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,360 There is so many events out there, isn't there? 742 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,400 There's just I mean, they just keep coming in, keep coming in. 743 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,920 Hey, he's a you'll love this one. 744 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,920 He's a good one. Epic mate. 745 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,680 Love the pod. This come from back beach. 746 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,680 Back Beach. Back Beach, the word is on the 747 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,040 street that the fire in your heart is out. 748 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,920 Yeah. He, he or she hit subscribe on 749 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,080 Episode 1 because of myself, of course, of Courtney. 750 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,000 Yeah. I'd never heard of Liam at the 751 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,280 time, but now? Thanks, back Beach. 752 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,520 Liam is my now favourite voice. Hey, yeah. 753 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,120 Yeah, yeah. And favourite person to run 754 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,120 along to together. Your boys are awesome, Yeah. 755 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,120 So thank you back Beach. I appreciate it. 756 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,840 What again? So getting back to these, 757 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,320 though, one more week to enter our comp, one more week, we'll 758 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,280 give away the watch. We'll give away the H10 heart 759 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,840 rate sensor. We thank you to everybody that 760 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,640 jumping in. And yes, it might seem like a 761 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,680 shameless way for us to try and get more of you on board the 762 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,400 podcast. That's what it is. 763 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,240 But we also love that thanks to Paula, we got the chance to 764 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,760 actually give something to someone that's more than just a, 765 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,600 a hat or another T-shirt. So it's really, really exciting. 766 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,240 So thank you to everybody who's jumped involved. 767 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,160 Yeah, absolutely. And we listen. 768 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,760 We're listening and we will, you know, any, any information we 769 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,000 get away. You want to go with it. 770 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,000 Let us know, can I ask because it feels like a lifetime since 771 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,680 you've talked about your running and I know you're back running a 772 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,320 bit. How's the body? 773 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,040 How's your body? Pretty good. 774 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:17,400 You know, the one thing that kills, kills you not literally 775 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,160 but hurts you in is sitting down. 776 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,720 So I had a great run on Tuesday. I've got back. 777 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,960 I've been going back to our spit group Gold Coast run Co. 778 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,560 I mean, I can't run the whole session yet, but I I dipped in 779 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,320 for the first time to have idea what was the first bit of the 780 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,840 session. It was 8 by 30 seconds on off. 781 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,720 OK. And I ran through that. 782 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,600 That was the first time I kind of run a bit quicker, ran, jog 783 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,840 back home, all fine. Then I jumped in the car for the 784 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,240 day for 6 1/2 hours to go out and check her, do a bit of a 785 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:49,400 course check on a few things. And I pulled up and then had to 786 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,520 fly to Sydney 6:00 AM the next morning. 787 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,520 So then I was sitting down in an office all day. 788 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,160 So I literally would have sat down nearly for 48 hours after 789 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,440 doing this run and I pulled up sore. 790 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,320 Yeah, I had a run in Sydney yesterday morning, just along 791 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,760 the harbour. And by the way, Sydney's 792 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,160 freaking freezing. I think I'll stand on the 793 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,480 corner. When I went to a run yesterday, 794 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,560 this was Thursday morning, said felt like .4 of a degrees or 795 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,480 something in the city. It was just windy, you know, 796 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,040 felt. I don't mean the temperature was 797 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,400 that, but it was cold. Anyway, I went to run along 798 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,080 there. I just, I was just gummy. 799 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,280 I hate as we sit here talking, I hate sitting down. 800 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,720 It's the one thing of coming from, you know, a lifetime of 801 00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:35,360 being only being an athlete to now, you know, mixing up with, 802 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,080 you know, doing the athlete stuff but then also doing a 803 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,280 range of other stuff. Sitting down. 804 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,160 It's just just sucks the life out of you. 805 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,840 Yeah. Oh, I am back on the truck. 806 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:46,960 That's good to hear. I am back on the truck. 807 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:47,880 I am how? Far. 808 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,080 How far are we thinking? The furthest I've run is 7 809 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,560 kilometres. I am back into run walks. 810 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,240 I'm back. I'm three runs back. 811 00:39:56,240 --> 00:40:00,240 And I gave myself after the decision is stopped doing the 812 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:03,640 marathon. I gave myself probably not quite 813 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,200 two weeks, but a week and 1/2 no running. 814 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,760 I just stopped thinking about it. 815 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:13,680 And also, and this isn't this isn't anything to do with the 816 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,400 physios that I was seeing with Britt and Liam, who've been 817 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,520 awesome at Gold Coast Physio, but I also gave myself a break 818 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,560 from treatment. Yeah, because. 819 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,240 Liam has been great and giving me my rehab plans and and I had 820 00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:32,480 some needling done by Trent, but I also I just took a break from 821 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,640 I'm like the calf's fine. I can walk around with it. 822 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,880 It's not hurting and I can ride my bike and I can go to the gym 823 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,960 and I can right. I know, I know I can't run on it 824 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,800 right now. Going back to the physio for me 825 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,960 right now, there was no real upside to it. 826 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,560 I wasn't now that I didn't have the time constraint of the 827 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,360 marathon on me. I just kind of went, all right, 828 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,040 well, it's not AI, don't need to fork out however much money it's 829 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,840 costing, but also I just don't need it. 830 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,680 So I'd gave myself a couple of weeks off from physio 831 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,920 appointments as well. And then the other morning I 832 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,320 just went, let's go for a run walk, let's go for a run walk. 833 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:12,080 So I literally went and did 2 minutes on, one minute off, did 834 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,480 10 of them and felt great and ran a little under 5 KS didn't 835 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,960 feel, didn't feel anything right. 836 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,760 And I didn't, there was no, there was no pain. 837 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,000 There was no, but I, I again, I didn't run. 838 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,080 I ran for what is that, 23, four minutes or whatever, all up, all 839 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,240 up. Yeah, but it's still good if you 840 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:30,800 didn't feel any because like even when you get back into that 841 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,720 type of thing, you're mentally you're you're waiting for it or 842 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,200 you're waiting to feel it. And that can be. 843 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,600 Interestingly, I reckon the cadence, I was running at a very 844 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,560 high cadence because the physio, what Liam had been telling me is 845 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,440 that and what I'd learnt previously is that that idea of 846 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,320 that high cadence can sometimes be beneficial for your cast. 847 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,680 So I did that and then on the next run back was a 3 minute on 848 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,760 one minute walk, knock, jog, walk. 849 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:05,600 And then most recently I've done AI, did a 5 minute on one minute 850 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,600 walk in between the 5 minutes. Now what I didn't realise 851 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,320 because I've stopped thinking about the numbers of running, 852 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,200 which is was really interesting when I was doing this run 853 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,200 because I've stopped thinking about splits and times and 854 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,400 negative splitting and all that sort of stuff. 855 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:26,120 I was doing the first five minute effort and my watch went 856 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,760 off and said one kilometre in and I went, Oh, I just ran AK 857 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,600 like I just ran like an effort K. 858 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,840 And I haven't run an effort I since before Kanani. 859 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,120 Like I haven't in almost probably 3 months since I've run 860 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,880 AK interval effort. But it was a very weird 861 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,960 sensation. I go, Oh, that was a kilometre 862 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,320 interval that I've just run. And then as I started to get 863 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,360 through the rest of the the the session, I was like, Oh, these 864 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,040 are I'm back running kilometre influence. 865 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,720 Sounds like you're enjoying it again, because you're not, so, 866 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,240 you know, fixated. Exactly. 867 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:02,600 It was a happy meeting. I, I know, and it was nice to, I 868 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,360 mean for me the time and then I got to the end of the run and 869 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,240 looked at the times I was running the K spits and started 870 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:11,960 to go, Oh, that's not very fast. But the moment during that run 871 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,120 where I suddenly the watch alert went off automatic 1K 872 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,720 notification. I'm like, oh, oh, there, this is 873 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:18,840 fun. I'm back running again. 874 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,120 When you do that run walk stuff as well, you often find once 875 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,200 you're starting to move along a bit better, you're just trying 876 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,560 to stay to that. I don't have, I don't ever use 877 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,440 alarms and I find like, oh shit, I was running 5 but I ran 6 878 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,160 minutes because you know, you're just moving along and you start 879 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,160 to forget about it. But. 880 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,760 But it's cool to be about. I think that's a good. 881 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,560 It's it's like if anyones listening, it's a great thing to 882 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,320 be aware of that goals and having that is a great idea and 883 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,840 you're following something to try and to achieve something. 884 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,400 But it is then very easy to get hung up on that. 885 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,120 And, and it just it, it derails the idea of just going out and 886 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,240 running sometimes like it is OK just to go out and run And even, 887 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,440 you know, we all I'm the same. I want to still know how much I 888 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,680 ran and put it on Strava or whatever else it is. 889 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,880 But sometimes just for getting the watches there and not 890 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,000 watching it while you're running is the biggest, like something 891 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,200 you can get out of it or just head to a trail, head to a 892 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,040 trail. Yeah, yeah, it was funny. 893 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,720 The the one, the photographer, Paul, after we took those photos 894 00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:20,480 and I nearly drowned myself, nearly waterboarded myself for 895 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,720 45 minutes. He asked some questions because 896 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:26,440 he wanted to. He said that the caption and he 897 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,080 was asking me some questions about marathon running and and 898 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,960 when do you find like, you know, why do you do these and all that 899 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,800 sort of stuff. One of the questions he asked me 900 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,440 at the end was about being in the zone when you find yourself 901 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,280 in that fluid state of running. When do you? 902 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:47,040 Well, and I said, I said rarely. I think I said to him that said 903 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,240 I am what you would call an effort runner. 904 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,240 Paul, this is none of this comes easy to me. 905 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:59,920 I don't I've I've had maybe half a dozen runs over my running 906 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,600 career where I've gone, oh, I'm in the zone. 907 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,320 This is the flow state of running. 908 00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:08,200 Every run for me is an effort. I I'm an effort runner. 909 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,160 There is nothing fluid about the way I run. 910 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,920 There's nothing efficient about the way I run. 911 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,600 So that idea of finding that flow state and fluidity injured, 912 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,960 but so I can't find that state often. 913 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:23,440 But when I am enjoying running, even if it doesn't feel fluid or 914 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,120 flowy or whatever it is, that's what running's best when you're 915 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,000 just enjoying it. A. 100%. 916 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,120 Like I'm because when he was asking me these questions, I was 917 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,200 thinking about going up those hills with you in Narang. 918 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,960 I am not flowing when we when I'm running behind you in the 919 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,080 ring, there's nothing flow about that. 920 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,440 Yeah. But when you're talking and 921 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,760 forgetting about the running a little bit, yeah, it's not 922 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,440 flowing the like the meditation sense. 923 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,360 Yeah. But it is flow in the sense that 924 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,280 you're out there and just running along and talk. 925 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,440 When you're starting to talk to the point, you're not thinking 926 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,760 about the running, Yeah, you're just doing part of that. 927 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,360 And I think music, as much as you know, there's times when not 928 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,480 to have music going, like, enjoy just what's out there. 929 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,120 But then music also can get you to that flow state where you 930 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,520 just kind of just lock in. You're not even really listening 931 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,280 to it, but you're running along. So hey, I've got a question for 932 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:09,920 you. Have you listened to? 933 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,400 I haven't listened. Have you watched Mobland? 934 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,480 No, I heard a lot about it though. 935 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,880 Anyone like do yourself a favour. 936 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,200 Heard a lot about it. Tom Hardy is 47. 937 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,040 Good chat, talk about man crushes. 938 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,400 Oh, really? Oh yeah. 939 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,520 Wow. I didn't think this is where 940 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:29,720 we'd end up. Really. 941 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,640 Tom Hardy. I mean, I don't think too many 942 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,880 people could look at him and go that I wouldn't want to be. 943 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:39,200 I I I so because he's because he was AUFC fighter in one of his 944 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,800 films. He was a fought against Joel 945 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,640 Edgerton in a film called Fighter or something like that 946 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,520 or something. But he's been. 947 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,160 That awesome. Yeah. 948 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,560 Peace, Brosnan. OK, I'm sort of in 72 now as 949 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,120 well, but it's the typical London gangster, Guy Ritchie. 950 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,400 OK, Pretty sure Guy Ritchie directed or produced it. 951 00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,640 OK, so it's kind of like that old school UK. 952 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,040 Do yourself a favour, go out and watch that. 953 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,960 Dipping. Dipping our toes into movies. 954 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,000 Yeah. Just just just finished off that 955 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,360 trying to get to sleep late one night. 956 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,000 This. Is great. 957 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,520 OK Mobland hadn't seen it. No. 958 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,360 Very good. Got a little bit of a a local 959 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,000 event this year this this week. Hey guys, this is Brad. 960 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,680 I just completed my first ever trail race, the 15K at in the 961 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,720 Royal Naman Bar Valley, Gold Coast. 962 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:28,080 I'd like you to give a shout out to Steve at Trail trips and 963 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,200 events and Wild Earth for putting on a great event. 964 00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:35,360 It's well guided course, there's heaps of volunteers on track and 965 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,560 steep hills, mud, rocks and river crossings. 966 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,960 I never would have heard about this event if it wasn't for your 967 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,560 podcast and you guys talking about the Nerang trails all the 968 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,080 time made me start searching trail events on the Gold Coast a 969 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,920 few episodes ago. A listener question about how to 970 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,240 get into trial running. I can recommend that in the raw 971 00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:59,280 event as it really caters for all abilities. 972 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,360 Thanks a lot. I'm just I've found Brad on 973 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,520 Instagram here. What a legend in the raw 15K 974 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,920 race. Steve is awesome. 975 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,320 That's your local trails? Yeah, He's up through the 976 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,520 border, up through crumbling trails. 977 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,560 Right. Yeah, Steve is what Steve does 978 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:27,040 with the trail scene is I How do we make sure that The Pioneers 979 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,080 are rewarded? Because, well, like, that's 980 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,600 getting people to get to their event. 981 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,480 Yeah, because this don't. You feel like that's a bit of a 982 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,520 reward. I do, I do. 983 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:38,600 We spoke about it. I do. 984 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,240 One goes and finds it. I do. 985 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,480 You're right. That's great. 986 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:47,640 But I'm also conscious that as this bubble continues to grow 987 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,480 and the this fascination and an obsession with running in the 988 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,520 community gets bigger and bigger and bigger. 989 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,400 I would, and I hope I'm not saying it is happening, but I'm 990 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,480 conscious that someone like Steve who does with trail and 991 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:08,760 trips I think it's called, I would hate that suddenly a 992 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,400 better resourced organisation, maybe a brand comes in and 993 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:18,440 swoops in on the goldmine that running is now presenting and 994 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,640 someone like Steve was left on the wayside. 995 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,560 I'm not saying it's going to happen. 996 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,840 I don't think it would happen, but I would just, I think what 997 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,520 we what Brad's a perfect example. 998 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,720 Get out there and support. Them what you can do is support 999 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:30,280 them. Get out there and find them. 1000 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,760 Yep, because yes, they. Well, The thing is that does the 1001 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,840 cut. Yep, it puts on great races and 1002 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,960 it's not. Like I can tell you first hand 1003 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,280 right at the moment, especially today, it ain't easy trying to 1004 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,760 put on events. You're trying to do. 1005 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:51,400 It's not easy trying to run events in difficult locations. 1006 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,560 You know it might be, you know you. 1007 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,920 You spend the money, you shut down a road Rd races, you know 1008 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,360 you've got to deal with a lot of bureaucratic stuff, but you pay. 1009 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,640 It happens once you get off track. 1010 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,640 There's a whole range of other factors that come into it to 1011 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,480 running events, and Steve navigates that. 1012 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,960 You gotta love it. Amazingly, you gotta love it. 1013 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,680 You ain't doing it for the cash. But he's always, he's still 1014 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,120 taking people to those locations or putting on the style of event 1015 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,920 that I think really has that point of difference. 1016 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,680 So yeah, definitely go and check out. 1017 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,520 Yeah, that's awesome. Thanks for the message, Brad. 1018 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,480 And again, if anybody out there that's a great way to send us 1019 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,040 feedback and and get involved with the show is send us a voice 1020 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,920 memo. Shout out to my defiant race 1021 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,400 partner Lindsay Laurie. He got second up. 1022 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,040 In the he's. Flying again at the moment. 1023 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,560 But Lindsay is a weapon, and I reckon if Lindsay had the 1024 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,720 Courtney Atkinson focus, he'd be an even bigger weapon. 1025 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,680 Lindsay's one of those annoying humans that's good at lots of 1026 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,640 things though he is. I think she's talented across 1027 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,160 the feeling. Could just slip my mind. 1028 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,000 I think he won like a junior K1 kayaking. 1029 00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:00,720 Australian champion, that's what I mean. 1030 00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:02,680 Stages annoyingly good at lots of things. 1031 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,160 Yeah, very good. All right, what do we got left 1032 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,200 We got we got time for any gear chat. 1033 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,120 Do I have gear? I've got actually this listen to 1034 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,480 question I'm interested in. So, Ryan, I wanna have number 1035 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,440 one of Armadale, yeah. King of Armadale. 1036 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,920 Ryan's sending boys, with how popular running is becoming 1037 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,200 worldwide, do you think any additional running events could 1038 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,280 be added to the Olympics? And if what, what do you think 1039 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,720 they would be to add for a success? 1040 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,040 Would it be a standard type race, a backyard ultra, new road 1041 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,840 distances like a 30 or A50, or even bring the old the cross 1042 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,720 country? Well, we've talked about 1043 00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:38,320 bringing the cross country back and that's where I firmly sit. 1044 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,280 I've got a question for you because we earlier on in the 1045 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,800 episode, we talked about what's impressive anymore. 1046 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:47,880 Yeah. Because oh, and you said you had 1047 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,760 an answer for this. No, we said, well, I said that 1048 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,080 going to do a race is impressive. 1049 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,040 But when we talk about like doing an Iron Man, doing an 1050 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,400 ultra, like what's impressive in endurance anymore because 1051 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,000 everyone's doing such crazy stuff. 1052 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:06,280 When you take it to the Olympic level, do you ever think a long 1053 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,680 like an ultra event could work at the Olympic Games? 1054 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,440 And this probably goes from both running and then the Ironman in 1055 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,040 triathlon. Because you, you know, that's 1056 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,960 the argument in triathlon always has been you've got the Olympic 1057 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,120 distance, which is the Olympic Games distance runs for just 1058 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,920 under 2 hours, but you don't have the Ironman in Olympic 1059 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,560 Games. Do you ever think an ultra or an 1060 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,000 Ironman could work in an Olympic environment? 1061 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,240 Could, but what? Why? 1062 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,120 We are a the attention span of the globe is shortening. 1063 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,040 It is becoming, I mean, we talked about the cool and get a 1064 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,760 gold earlier on in this episode. The everything's becoming 1065 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,840 shorter. Longer is not the solution. 1066 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,960 Longer is has a niche, but it is not the mainstream niche 1067 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,120 anymore. And I don't see a world where 1068 00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:02,360 the Olympic ethos is changing, right? 1069 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,640 It is no longer about faster, higher, stronger. 1070 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,880 That's still their motto. But it is changing to now be 1071 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,320 about sustainable legacy, right? They've always talked about, you 1072 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,320 always hear the words around Brisbane Olympic Games. 1073 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,600 You're always hearing what's the legacy, what's the legacy piece? 1074 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,400 What's the legacy piece? It's not about just building 1075 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,840 legacy pieces for everything now it's about sustainable legacy. 1076 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,560 So the Brisbane Olympic Games as an example, there's conversation 1077 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,640 going around in the background about where the paddle sport 1078 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:32,800 things are going to happen, right? 1079 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:38,680 Redlands is approved for a new white water rafting facility, 1080 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:39,920 right? The only one in this country 1081 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,240 basically exists down in Penrith in the backyard of Jess and 1082 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:44,800 Naomi Fox. They're going to build a new one 1083 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,760 at Redlands, $20 million or whatever it's going to cost. 1084 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,080 Why for a niche sport that only has a certain number of 1085 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,920 participants, why are we building? 1086 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,840 What's the sustainable legacy of that? 1087 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,680 And then there's talk about creating this new rowing 1088 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,200 facility in Rockhampton. Why That's not a sustainable 1089 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,720 legacy. You're not going to make 1090 00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:10,040 Rockhampton the centre of rowing in this country when in Sydney 1091 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,840 there is already world class rowing facilities. 1092 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,760 So the sustainable legacy and I'm going to trust me, I'm going 1093 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,600 to land the plane on this. It makes more sense for the 1094 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,160 Brisbane Olympics to host it's paddling events down in Sydney. 1095 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,440 Oh. Be cool, it does, but if you're 1096 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,480 talking about the Olympics having sustainable legacy, it 1097 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,680 makes more sense to have those things there. 1098 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,720 Now to go back to what we're talking about about ultra or 1099 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,120 longer events ever going into the Olympic Games, how would you 1100 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,640 host one? How would you host 1 sustainably 1101 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,320 and feasibly for something that might go for five hours? 1102 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,160 It just, it draws everything out longer, it makes everything more 1103 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,760 logistically difficult and it puts further strain on a city, a 1104 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:59,480 host city and a host venue where not many people in the host 1105 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,920 cities, it really want these games anymore. 1106 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,160 Yeah, and we've got the marathon. 1107 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,800 I mean, running, you got the marathon. 1108 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:06,680 We're all, we talk about this every week. 1109 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,000 The marathon, It's the it's the tipping point of you run the 32K 1110 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,040 and then your legs fall off. I mean, it's long enough. 1111 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,160 The marathon should still be impressive. 1112 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,280 If we introduce more ultra things, yeah, the marathon is 1113 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,320 less impressive. The marathon should still be 1114 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,280 impressive. Enough. 1115 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,960 Well, the marathon. And it has been seen. 1116 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,200 That is the Olympic Games right from day dot. 1117 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,440 The Olympic marathon. That's how it started. 1118 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,880 How it started it is that distance that's the biggest test 1119 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,280 to go as quick as possible for a distance. 1120 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,920 And in triathlon, I suppose the same thing. 1121 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,120 It's around that same. It's a little bit shorter, you 1122 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:47,280 know, you go now 45, but it's a long way for any OK, for anyone 1123 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,720 sitting there, then this is an endurance seat. 1124 00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:54,840 Anyone sitting there going it's just an Olympic distance. 1125 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,520 Oh, here we go. Fire up Courtney. 1126 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,560 It's. Just. 1127 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,480 The Olympic You're talking triathlon here. 1128 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,440 Or triathlon. Or in running terms, well, it's 1129 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,280 just the 10K. Like you're running flat out for 1130 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,120 30, whatever it is for different people. 25 minutes, 35 minutes, 1131 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,760 whatever it is, that's a long way to run hard. 1132 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,960 Two hours or three hours for a marathon is a long way to run 1133 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,640 hard. You don't always just have to 1134 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,360 make it longer for the sake of making things longer, because 1135 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,240 all you're doing is creating a point of difference. 1136 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,600 Here's our new T-shirt, right? We've never done merch, and I 1137 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:34,720 know we've got the polar giveaway. 1138 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,920 Let's make. Let's make some merch. 1139 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,800 Let's make some. Merch. 1140 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,280 Let's make some. Merch here's the merch ready. 1141 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,240 It's go, don't go longer, go harder. 1142 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,920 Let's change the mentality around running. 1143 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,640 Don't go longer, go harder. Make it harder on yourself by 1144 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,960 working hard. Don't go longer, go harder. 1145 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,360 Because as you were just talking about that, I remember when I 1146 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,840 signed up for my first new triathlon and honestly in my 1147 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,160 head I was thinking, bugging me, how am I going to swim 1 1/2 K, 1148 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,240 ride 40K, then run 10K? This year? 1149 00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:10,200 I'm doing #11 and in my head right now those distances don't 1150 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,200 scare me at all. I could cruise through that this 1151 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,560 afternoon if I wanted to, but could I go harder? 1152 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,200 But should I go? Harder there is my point. 1153 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,920 You do Noosa Triathlon, right? And then you're sitting in your 1154 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:23,840 hair. I paint a picture. 1155 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,720 I'm sitting in my office, I mean, I'm up in there level 1156 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,840 level, level 10 up in Brisbane city. 1157 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,160 What's in the Meriton building or something? 1158 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,640 And my colleague next to me and I went, I just had a hard one at 1159 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,960 the weekend. You know, I did my PB at the 1160 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,840 Noosa Triathlon, 2 hours, 35. Awesome. 1161 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,240 Yeah, right. Well, I'm, I'm going to race the 1162 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,040 Australian Ironman this year. And, and the person sitting 1163 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:56,040 there who just did the Noosa, Oh, you're an Ironman now or 1164 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,440 automatically I would suggest the people who are doing the 1165 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,720 longer distance go like, well, that's the better thing. 1166 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,640 Like you're oh wow, like you're doing that right. 1167 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,400 But that person's just done gone and been older, race over 2 1168 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:13,440 hours, 35 at a very, very good level and beat their PB. 1169 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,200 Like what's more impressive, I would actually go again, like 1170 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,280 the two hours. Try to improve yourself over a 1171 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,320 distance that's capable. You don't always have to go 1172 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,800 longer to feel better. Go harder, not longer. 1173 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,200 Go harder, not longer in the Beginning podcast, which means 1174 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,560 that we're gonna start doing 20 minute episodes where we just 1175 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,240 yell at each other. There we go. 1176 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,200 Hey, don't forget, if you haven't already, comment and 1177 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,720 review and rate the podcast. We've got the H10 heart rate 1178 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,000 sensor. We've got the Polar Pacer 1179 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,640 running Watch. We'll be giving those away this 1180 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,800 time next week. One more week to get your 1181 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,320 entries review right. Share the podcast and we will 1182 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,720 see you next week. Yep, we'll see you next week.