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In the beginning, episode 27, 
let's start with the big story. 

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What's the Courtney? 
Elliot Kipchoge is coming to run

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Sydney Marathon. 
It is a big story, the biggest 

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story. 
What do you what do you think 

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when you heard? 
I thought a very smart move by 

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him. 
Why? 

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Well I mean every time he runs 
you're literally looking at 

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records. 
So he pretty much has all of his

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pressure on him to become this 
sub two hour guy every time he 

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races. 
It's all about time. 

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Sydney has elevation, it's not 
the course to run a fast time on

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and that means he can come here 
and just concentrate on trying 

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to win a race. 
This is, this was a bombshell. 

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When I saw the email come up 
that Sydney had an the Elliot 

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Kipjoge was coming to run this 
first time ever as a major. 

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He's coming to run it. 
My mum was blown. 

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And the ripples throughout the 
running community have been, 

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it's been everywhere. 
It's the biggest story. 

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And I have gone deep like I 
have. 

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I've been prepping ahead of 
wanting to talk about this with 

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you. 
Yeah, right. 

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Do you know what his marathon 
record is from profession as a 

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professional marathoner? 
Outside of the sub two hour. 

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Yeah, outside of the project, 
obviously. 

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Vienna, which is where he broke,
became the first human ever to 

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run under 2 hours. 
No, you've 21 marathons. 

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Yep, 16 wins. 
Yeah, that's crazy. 

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He's never finished worse than 
eighth. 

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He had 10 consecutive wins 
across the marathon from 2014 to

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2019. 
He is running London in in next 

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month on the 27th of April 
before he comes down here in 

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Sydney. 
So I've got questions I'm gonna 

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litter you with here. 
I don't know. 

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I don't know how. 
Good. 

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I'm gonna be on the questions 
but but he's a goat, right? 

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There's no argument. 
A lot more excited than I am 

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about this. 
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm pumped. 

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You're. 
You're going to Sydney. 

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Well, I want to go and run. 
I want to go and do the marathon

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now. 
Changed you. 

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You're like 100% in. 
Yeah, This is, this is a, this 

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is a once in a lifetime money 
can't buy opportunity to say 

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you've run in a marathon with 
the greatest marathoner of all 

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time, in my opinion. 
That's how I'm viewing it now. 

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OK. 
Four months between races, 

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that's is that a That's a 
relatively short turn around 

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right for a marathoner. 
It probably is as if he if he's 

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trying to do world records. 
But like I said, I think this is

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a smart move. 
Come take the money, show up 

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Sydney Marathon, try and win. 
Time's irrelevant. 

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Let's get to the money in a 
moment, because that is a 

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talking point too. 
I've done some research into 

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that. 
Yeah, good. 

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He's never run in Oceania 
before. 

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So. 
Jet lag another thing makes. 

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It long way to come and jet lag 
when you can run in Europe and 

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America. 
Makes it a big I, I think it 

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adds to it The, the, you know, 
he's four years of age once he's

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raced Sydney, New York then 
becomes the only major he hasn't

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raced as well. 
OK. 

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So that and he's mentioned after
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compete in all these majors as 
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Well. 
This makes sense then. 

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Yeah, I I sound like I'm being 
negative on this one. 

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No, no, this is this is 
absolutely my. 

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This is amazing. 
He's coming down here. 

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You're just not as excited as 
me. 

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I'm just not as excited as you 
and I'm just also playing the 

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other side of it and being 
realistic about, you know, I 

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suppose some of the other 
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these decisions. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's get to 

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the money because this really 
interests me. 

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Yeah, In I've got, I actually 
think. 

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Have you done some research? 
I've done because I I thought I 

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thought I was going to and I 
didn't get. 

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No, no, no. 
I've done some research. 

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In fact, before you get the 
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because I don't want, I want the
money to stay separate because I

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think it's a really big talking 
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This is a huge win for Sydney as
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I think I think prior to we know
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massive push to become a major 
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They they made the decision they
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marathon. 
They spent the marketing money 

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on getting the numbers up from a
competitive standpoint. 

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They made the changes to the 
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earned the classification last 
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This will be the first year as a
major marathon to land Elliot 

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Kipchoge in your first year as a
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If there was any doubt about the
pre Eminent Blue Ribbon Marathon

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in Australia, it's gone now. 
Yep, it is Sydney. 

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Well done. 
You got to tip your cap to the 

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race organisers for for making 
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Yeah, talking about talking 
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we're going to talk about the 
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we have no idea here or I have 
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Do you think being the first 
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they've signed it on the majors 
themself actually helped tip in 

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here? 
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Have to, absolutely, they would 
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successful. 
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I've thought more about this 
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we've been talking about these, 
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talked about, you know, there's 
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Australia. 
I mean there was really no other

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option if you're going to run a 
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Australia. 
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high rises and the beaches and 
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Sydney really is, and I'm hating
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global capital of Australia. 
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If you're in America, if you're 
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Montana, you might recognise 
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and the the Sydney Harbour 
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You're not going to recognise 
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recognise Gold Coast, you're not
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would, but realistically Sydney 
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two places that foreigners 
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That's it. 
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Coast, you would say. 
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more recognisable 
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Melbourne has to offer. 
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it's it's not that interesting 
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MCG. 
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comes down to recognisable 
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Exactly so. 
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And when? 
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And when you measure it 
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Brandenburg Gate of Berlin, 
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and running down the Mall there,
New York into unto itself, it 

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was the only option. 
That's the only option 

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conclusion I've come to. 
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didn't make it a Gimme. 
Sydney did the work. 

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We money makes it a give me. 
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Like you, you throw enough money
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But it's, yeah, it happens. 
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It can cover up those things. 
So Sydney's a winner for me. 

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The city of Sydney, the marathon
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Sydney, I think they'll benefit 
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The other winner out of Elliot 
Kipchoge coming to town is Nike.

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True. 
Nike is a big winner here. 

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Because reservations, yeah. 
It's all the run brands will be 

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looking to make the most of 
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ever major this year in Sydney. 
All of the run brands will be 

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looking to host events, bring 
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Rep reping their brand as well 
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It's as bad having as many of 
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wearing your kit as possible. 
I think this instantly tips the 

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scales in favour of Nike for the
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Yep, Ellie Kipchoge, the most 
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planet. 
The GOAT coming down here 

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wearing Nike shoes. 
He will be everywhere throughout

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the city from a branding 
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It's not just shoes, it's, you 
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logos everywhere, right? 
And it's on that. 

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This will feel like a Nike event
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This first year with Elliot, 
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future holds, which. 
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Sydney Do you know I. 
Sure, I think it's ASICS. 

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Right. 
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I think Sydney Marathon, I'm 
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Yeah, do some quick Googling 
now. 

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I've got a. 
This is a. 

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This is actually it's probably a
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gonna. 
It's wow, the race itself is 

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presented by ASICS. 
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It's the TCS Sydney Marathon 
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And yet I think the perception 
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Nike event because the one man 
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going to take over. 
Great. 

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Bit of ambush marketing, Yeah. 
By Nike. 

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Now you're talking as a like a 
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You love running. 
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I've got a question that's 
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because most people are runners 
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way. 
But it's it's an honest 

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question. 
Do you actually think, how many 

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people do you think in a 
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running? 
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people even know who wins the 
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If you're running Gold Coast 
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many of those marathoners that 
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Less than less than 20%, I would
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I would say less than yeah, I'd 
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the winners are The. 
Actual winners are and do you 

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think that's because they just 
it's irrelevant to them, they 

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don't care? 
Or is it the job's not done well

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enough to make it a thing? 
And do you think so where I'm 

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leading with this question is do
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that that will change that? 
And if he wins or loses everyone

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in that race and knows or is are
we runners thinking that? 

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And do 40,000 people who are, 
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who are running that in that 
other 80% still don't care. 

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Well, I'll give you an example. 
I don't know who's won the Gold 

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Coast Marathon the the last 
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And you know what? 
I don't know who's won the 

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cities of Surf every year I've 
competed in. 

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See, that's wild. 
I don't, I don't know. 

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For such big events that the 
winners. 

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Are almost irrelevant. 
Are irrelevant. 

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Yeah, are. 
Almost irrelevant, I think if 

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you're a spectator on TV because
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known thing. 
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It's minimal. 
I mean, that's minimal 

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spectators. 
Maybe this will be different 

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because you know, it'll be kind 
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then you've got to be still 
watching free to air TV, happen 

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to be there on a Sunday morning 
and probably half interested in 

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running. 
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And I I think what to talk 
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What do you think They'd I'm 
I'm. 

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I'm Why do we? 
Go down. 

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Why do you think runners in 
participating in a sport? 

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Because it's not like tennis or 
golf. 

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Yeah, everyone who plays 
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who plays recreational golf is 
gonna watch the Masters and and 

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know who wins, know who the best
players are. 

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But we do this sport, it's 
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than the most sports out there, 
if not the most participation. 

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Yep. 
People don't care about why. 

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Do we not care who wins? 
What do you reckon? 

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Jesus, it's a good question. 
I haven't really thought about 

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it. 
And there's probably and, and I 

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imagine anybody who's running 
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thinking the same thing about. 
Well, do you care if you're 

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running along listening? 
Do you, do you care? 

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Like I'm saying that in a harsh 
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doing it if who the actual 
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I, I guess it's, it's one of 
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It's unlike any other sport in 
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come back to Sydney and the 
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run. 
I can line up on the same start 

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line as the GOAT, as Elliot 
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and the only difference is that 
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faster. 
I will never be able to walk on 

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the court with Roger Federer. 
That's true. 

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I will never be able to take the
court with LeBron James. 

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and what they're allowed to do 
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they play their sport and how 
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conditions under which they play
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and, and particularly marathon 
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I think that's the point as 
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I wouldn't be allowed to walk 
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or, you know, never. 
That's that's not even the short

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track and field stuff, the 
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It's something, now as I think 
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unique to marathon running that 
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number of events around the 
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same field, enter the same arena
with the best. 

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In the world, that's true. 
And make that comparison, yeah. 

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But you could then argue you're 
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five hour. 
Run marathon. 

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You've been put in Group F Do 
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line where the race starts? 
Do you ever get near a time when

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you cross the line and the race 
finishes? 

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Are you even going to be exposed
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No, you don't. 
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just also said 80% people. 
I care, don't care and. 

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Sandy, that's my, this is my 
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And I there's no way, I don't 
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It's, I think it's a really, 
it's something we should think 

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about as a like, as you know, 
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there's a running boom, there's 
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everything's happening. 
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in running in particular between
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participation of this sport 
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this follows. 
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could add in that middle group. 
We've all, you know, earlier on 

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in the episodes we talked about 
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influences doing things and how 
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audience. 
Versus Shiko Kipchoge. 

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Yeah, I wonder. 
It's now I'm now I'm interested 

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to know. 
You see where I'm going? 

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Yeah. 
No, no, no. 

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I. 
Really do. 

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It fascinates me because I've 
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areas of sport where you're, so 
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best, who's coming up, what's 
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It's sort of like a competitive 
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big sports, like I said, golf, 
tennis, where you know you've 

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got people sitting at home for 
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of a competition who don't even,
some of them don't even play 

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tennis. 
Why in running is that 

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disconnect there? 
I don't know but and I and I 

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don't want to get all fruity and
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something you. 
Just want to get back to 

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talking. 
About no, no, no. 

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There's something kind of 
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of romantic and beautiful about 
the idea. 

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Again, I come back to that at 
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major marathons around the 
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let's look at Jen Gregson. 
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I raced on the same course as 
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This is an Aussie athlete I see 
at the Olympics. 

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This is an Aussie athlete I've 
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This is, you know, just these 
are the to know that I'm out 

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running the same course on the 
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I saw Jen Gregson on the 
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I think I was, I was probably at
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when she was coming back the 
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But I remember thinking, this is
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That's Jane Gregson coming. 
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third in the women's category 
last year. 

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I'm like, that's cool, that's 
amazing. 

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That's that is a feeling you 
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I don't know why I can't tell 
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last year, but I can't. 
So yeah. 

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Yeah. 
All right, let's go back to 

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jargon. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
What do you want to ask? 

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No. 
Well, let's get to the money. 

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Let's get to the money for the 
money and leave. 

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We've spent plenty of time on 
this and I know this is I could 

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do I could you all spend the 
whole episode and I'm going to 

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move Liam, Liam, Liam on. 
For those of you that want to 

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hear more, call me. 
But for those of you that want 

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to hear less, I'll do this 
quickly. 

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Some data. 
Yeah. 

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Usain Bolt at his peak when he 
came down here, he was paid. 

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Do you remember there was a, a 
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it was like the US versus I 
don't remember the world know 

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this. 
He was apparently paid a 7 

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figure appearance fee to commit 
to all those three meetings. 

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Yes, as well as giving a stake 
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event. 
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was getting paid 200 to 350,000 
as an appearance fee to compete 

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for context, right? 
I just want to give you that 

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context. 
Ellie Kipchoge Some research 

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I've done In 2021, the top 
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receiving appearance fees of 
about 200,000 per race. 

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So that's US. 
That's US. 

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That's irrelevant of what he'd 
done. 

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I found a Reddit thread which 
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US to run in London in 2020. 
Yep, in 2024 there was his 

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marathon. 
He had an appearance fee and 

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this was all in Kenyan money, 
but his appearance fee plus his 

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sponsorship of the various 
brands he was associated saw him

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earn 500,000 US for one of his 
marathons. 

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What do you think he's getting 
paid to run here? 

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No idea. 
That's my that's that's my 

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honest answer if you had to have
no idea. 

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What would he be worth to you? 
You have an. 

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Understanding, knowing the NSW 
government and their spending, 

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yeah, they could be paying him 
$1,000,000. 

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That's what I think he's being 
paid. 

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That's my honest answer. 
I, I, I reckon I do believe they

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would overspend to get an 
outcome. 

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He also could be getting paid 
200 grand like a normal fee. 

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But I doubt with all of the 
circumstances we talked about at

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the front, we're just purely 
guessing here. 

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But I just think the money that 
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a government perspective to get 
it here. 

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Why not? 
Why would they stop now? 

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The tap was on. 
Keep the tap on. 

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Yep, I think Ellie Kipchoge is 
being paid $1,000,000 to come to

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town to come and run the Sydney 
Marathon first year as a major. 

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As you said, it's now. 
Why would you get to this point 

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and try and nickel and dime a 
situation? 

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In for a penny, in for a pound. 
We can get the greatest 

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marathoner in the history of the
sport to come and compete in our

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first year as a major marathon. 
Write the cheque. 

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What's the money roll in? 
Boom. 

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Yeah, I think he's getting paid 
$1,000,000. 

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We're completely guessing here. 
What I do, what I remember with 

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marathoners, like some of the 
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would go to the majors, I was 
always surprised, the depth of 

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payment for the marathon. 
It's like we're talking, you 

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know, maybe 10/20/30 thousand 
U.S. dollars for that top 20. 

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So to get the whole, you know, 
how a major's got to attract a 

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certain level of field so that 
payment debt goes right 

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throughout the field. 
So obviously you got your 

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marquee guys who are being paid 
them, you know, real big bucks. 

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But marathoning of all the 
running, you know, always was 

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like, you know, they're still 
getting even down. 

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They're still getting dollars 
down at the bottom when you're 

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obviously the best in your 
country, but you're definitely 

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not running with a chance of 
meddling in those events they're

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still looking after. 
Them all right, keep Chogo free 

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zone from here on out all right 
over to you. 

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Over to me, I'm going to throw 
up some audio because I think I 

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have found the best marketing 
campaign I've ever seen. 

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So talk about maybe NSW 
government and whoever the 

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benefit. 
All the different people are 

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spending a lot of money on that.
This thing cost 2 pairs of 

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shoes. 
Have a listen. 

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Sportswear is the biggest hype 
right now so people would do 

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anything to get items which 
leads our store to sell out in 

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minutes, but most of them only 
wear them to do that. 

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Talk about. 
Instead of doing sport shoes 

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only as a running store 1st we 
wanted to bring sport back into 

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sportswear. 
So on the 13th of September we 

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decided to drop an exclusive 
access distance presents. 

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Rob it to get it for one day. 
We made our most wanted items 

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available for free. 
The only thing you had to do was

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rob them. 
Oh wait, there was just one 

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condition to run faster than the
security guard we especially 

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hired. 
The security guy was a French 

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sprinter. 
Only the true runners could get 

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them. 
After more than 100 attempts, 

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only two people managed to get 
away. 

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But then things got out of 
control. 

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A running store in Paris allowed
customers to steal shoes. 

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All this for the price of only 
two pairs of shoes. 

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Yes, it definitely was a 
robbery. 

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Now I got some stats. 
So what it was called, it was 

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Robert to get it. 
It was a shoe store in Paris. 

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Nick Stone shared this. 
Now look they got 14,000,000 

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organic views. 
They, it was about like it was 

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said, €12 million in marketing. 
In it they gave away 2 pairs of 

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shoes. 
Obviously there would have been 

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a bit of money in, you know, the
social and all that, but we're 

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talking about probably less than
a few grand here. 

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And I think probably one of the 
most successful guerrilla 

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campaigns you would have seen in
marketing. 

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So the guy who was chasing the 
security guard was a French 

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Olympic sprinter? 
Really clever. 

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This is. 
Really clever. 

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I don't know. 
We've we've seen, we've talked a

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bit about marketing and the shoe
marketing and really clever in 

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the eye and all this, this is 
just. 

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Really clever. 
When was this campaign, do you 

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know? 
No, I don't know. 

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What I love though, is there's 
nothing new. 

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Under the sun is a phrase that 
basically says that all ideas 

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are stolen. 
You've seen this. 

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In 2011, OK, the you know, have 
you ever stayed at the Art 

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Series Hotel in Melbourne? 
I've stayed in the one in Yeah I

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had favourite near Albert Park. 
Yep, Yep. 

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They ran a campaign in 2011 to 
steal a Banksy. 

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They had a Banksy painting hung 
up in the foyer behind the 

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reception desk and they invited 
guests to steal it. 

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And if you stole it, you kept 
it. 

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It was an authentic Banksy 
painting and they said. 

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With security, obviously you. 
Steal it, you keep. 

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And someone, someone stole it 
and pinched it. 

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And I was, from what I can 
remember, they came in posing as

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maintenance staff, managed to 
get it down into the car park, 

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into the boot of the car, off 
they went. 

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It was could have been set up. 
It could. 

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Have been set up but amazing 
campaign right? 

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Like this out of the box stuff 
is, but they've you know, for 

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running this was gold. 
That and that is brilliant, 

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brilliant marketing, Brilliant 
marketing. 

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Interestingly, was it, what was 
the brand actually that that 

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didn't that didn't jump out to 
me in the marketing campaign? 

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Well, it's a shoe store that 
sells, so it's a. 

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Specific. 
Multiple brands. 

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So they were saying like 
generally they sell out for when

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they're doing sports style 
shoes. 

454
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,440
Yeah, but they're a running 
brand. 

455
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,040
It's cool. 
So they wanted to focus on. 

456
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,360
Running, it's a. 
Really, it's a great. 

457
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,360
Great piece. 
I'm I'm gonna say it's probably 

458
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:28,880
the best. 
Well, until I've heard about the

459
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,520
Banksy one. 
It's. 

460
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,040
Probably the best one, but let's
say. 

461
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,520
It's the best running one, yeah,
yeah. 

462
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,040
Yeah, I've heard that's so. 
Yeah. 

463
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,080
Thrilled. 
To bring that one in. 

464
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,960
Nice. 
Now this is do you know, you 

465
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,640
know Logan Martin. 
Logan Martin. 

466
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,880
Yep. 
Logan from Logan. 

467
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,640
Logan from Logan So Olympic gold
medallist in park freestyle at 

468
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,560
Tokyo. 
Tokyo Olympics. 

469
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,640
Yep, runner. 
You mentioned this on the phone 

470
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,520
the other day. 
Tell me more about. 

471
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,640
This I'm trying to hook up more 
but for the moment I still think

472
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,640
let's just have a quick chat 
about this. 

473
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,840
Logan Martin, for people that 
don't remember the Tokyo 

474
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,960
Olympics, he burst on the scene 
because the reason he kind of 

475
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,160
became known a won Olympic gold.
So he's the best in the world, 

476
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,960
but also he had this purpose 
built set up, park set up in his

477
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,280
backyard. 
Yeah, that overlooked the whole.

478
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,000
Suburb. 
It was incredible, incredible. 

479
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,760
And all the TV stations picked 
up the story. 

480
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,440
The fact that he was Logan from 
Logan, he had all these great 

481
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,960
little storylines around him 
aside from his performance. 

482
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,240
So yeah. 
Logan So he's a, he's a like 

483
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,960
literally flips bikes in quarter
pipes, half pipes, all of that. 

484
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,240
What do you reckon he runs a 
marathon in? 

485
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,400
Has he run marathons? 
He's run a marathon. 

486
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,280
What do you reckon? 
Have a Have a gamble. 

487
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,640
He's an Olympic athlete. 
I'm gonna say he's runs a three 

488
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,520
4340. 308. 
He runs a 308. 

489
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,720
In non race conditions on the 
Gold Coast on the 16th of March.

490
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,560
So when was that? 
What on Sunday? 

491
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,960
On Sunday? 
Last weekend. 

492
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,400
Him. 
So on. 

493
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,000
Tim Rigby, who's Alex Rigby's 
brother. 

494
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,720
No, the brother of Rigby's 
brother. 

495
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,680
He's his strength and 
conditioning coach. 

496
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,080
So I've been fed this 
information, but I went in, he's

497
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,200
on Strava. 
He's run a 428 average for 

498
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,160
moving time, 3 hours 8. 
A few boys got together, ran 

499
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,480
42.2 and up and down the coast, 
like literally it looks like the

500
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,680
Gold Coast Marathon course and 
he's run a 308. 

501
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,720
Right. 
It I, I, it tells me, I mean, 

502
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,480
let's not forget we, we talked 
about this with Caleb Ewan when 

503
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,560
we're just like, there's just 
freaks out there that and Caleb 

504
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,200
Ewan jumped in that pool and did
that insane thing of 100 

505
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,040
hundreds. 
No, no, Richie. 

506
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:45,880
Port. 
Sorry, Richie. 

507
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,560
Port. 
Not Caleb. 

508
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,560
Yeah, but how old's Logan 
Martin? 

509
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,160
Let me have a look. 
Well, why you look that up? 

510
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,800
No, I've got him. 
He's born 93, so what's that 

511
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,680
make him? 
31, so he's 31 years of age. 

512
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:04,600
OK, so but also you how much 
I've, I have never BMXed. 

513
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,280
I've never BMXed. 
I assume there's got to be some 

514
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,760
level of cardiovascular output 
with the peddling. 

515
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,200
It's probably not the extent 
well. 

516
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,920
Yeah, but I mean, it's still, 
it's still trick BMX. 

517
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,280
It's not like he's he's, you 
know, racing around the BMX. 

518
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,280
Not like Siasaki Kibara. 
No right? 

519
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,480
No, no, no, no. 
This is like peddled down do 

520
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,560
jumps type thing. 
Geez, that's impressive. 

521
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,400
The 308 now. 
What's gonna make this more 

522
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:35,200
impressive now he did it off. 
Six weeks of training, 1212 

523
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,680
weeks. 
I don't like that 12 weeks of 

524
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,480
winning. 
He was 12 weeks post winning the

525
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,320
world champs from Freestyle Park
and he's. 

526
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,120
Right knocked out a three O 8. 
So that's the context. 

527
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:50,000
Forget the how long he told to 
do it, he just won BMX park 

528
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,640
worlds. 
Yeah, but this is what, 12 weeks

529
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,840
later? 
He's managed to run a three O 8 

530
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,360
and the machine 'cause I 
machine. 

531
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,840
Yeah, look, I I assume there's 
because Harry, Harry Garside's 

532
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,240
another one. 
Who I think we're going to see a

533
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,200
lot more of in the once his 
boxing subsides. 

534
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,360
He's the one that we could see 
pop up as a bit of a triathlete 

535
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:18,320
or a long distance runner 'cause
he's got his cardiovascular is 

536
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,560
incredible. 
Apparently he goes all right in 

537
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,040
the Tri world. 
Yeah, right. 

538
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,520
The boxer you remember talking 
about. 

539
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,560
These are the ones we've got to 
try and, or try and discover, 

540
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,360
yeah, not uncover or uncover is 
who, who are the, who are these?

541
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,600
Like who are the athletes? 
Who are the people out there? 

542
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,280
Who? 
Sneaky runners, Sneaky runners. 

543
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,880
All right. 
Runners in the closet, can you 

544
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,120
get? 
Logan on the show I'm. 

545
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:42,360
Gonna do my All right. 
He's Rockstar, so Nah. 

546
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,520
He's not. 
Even we can have we can have a 

547
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,440
Rockstar and a Red Bull at the 
same time. 

548
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,440
That's fine. 
No, but I've gotta. 

549
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,560
I'll give you a little. 
Bit more. 

550
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,400
Oh, you mean he's Rockstar? 
Rockstar Tarik, don't you? 

551
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,240
Bet he's a Rockstar. 
He's a Rockstar. 

552
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,080
Though evil, he's a Rockstar. 
If mate, we're Rockstar. 

553
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,280
He would be a Rockstar. 
All right, shout out, Logan. 

554
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,040
Yeah, we'll just punch out a 
casual marathon. 

555
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,080
We'll save it, we'll save it 
'cause let's hopefully you can 

556
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,680
come and have a chat. 
All right now we are two weeks 

557
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,680
out from today, the day people 
listen to this, we are two weeks

558
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,880
out. 
In two weeks time we will be 

559
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,800
down in Tasmania preparing for 
the Salomon Golden Trail series.

560
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,880
Kunani. 
We will be. 

561
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,520
Well, you will be. 
Yeah, let's talk about this, 

562
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:26,360
Courtney Atkinson. 
So it's a disaster, Liam, I 

563
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:29,920
mentioned last week I had a bit 
of a hip or something impinging 

564
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,640
on something not right. 
And then I've been down in 

565
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,560
Melbourne. 
I was down in Melbourne for the 

566
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,680
F1 and a few things over the 
weekend. 

567
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,880
It, it hasn't improved. 
And as of today I've just come 

568
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,520
out of an MRI and actually 
Doctor Ben was just giving me a 

569
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,560
call while we're on here. 
Doctor Ben calling you. 

570
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,560
I wanted to know what the 
result, the results were. 

571
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,880
Now it doesn't seem too bad. 
Let's fingers crossed. 

572
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,360
But what it is, Liam versus 
Courtney looks like it's 

573
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,440
probably off. 
If I can run next weekend, it's 

574
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,400
gonna be a little bit more of a 
candour. 

575
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,000
I'll be down there, don't worry.
In my opinion, it's gonna be you

576
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,080
versus. 
Pete, but in my before you get 

577
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,440
to me versus Pete from Salomon. 
I was scared of I'm making this 

578
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,760
is a win the win to you this. 
Is a win to me This is Courtney 

579
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,600
V Liam now reads school on Liam 
1 Courtney new yeah yeah fair 

580
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,840
you're gonna you're gonna take 
the I'll I'll accept it you're 

581
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,080
gonna take the yeah OK yeah. 
I'll, I'll that's. 

582
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,240
On record, by the way, that is 
on record Liam won Courtney zero

583
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,400
it's. 
It's not a great way, not a 

584
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,520
great time to be. 
How do you? 

585
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,000
Feel. 
Like an idiot, because here I am

586
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,880
preaching. 
Preaching about, you know that. 

587
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,920
What's that saying when they 
say, you know, never take your 

588
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,760
own advice or you never take 
your own advice? 

589
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,680
Do as a, not as I do. 
Not as I do, yeah. 

590
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,480
And that's simply what I did 
when when the when the floods 

591
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,000
were on or when the cyclone was 
here. 

592
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,200
I did something I wasn't used 
to. 

593
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,400
Gotta my something. 
Frustrating though, because 

594
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,440
you've been running really well,
you've been getting that speed 

595
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,520
back that you've been searching 
for and and then to now have 

596
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,560
this niggly thing. 
It, it's, it's, yeah, no one 

597
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,240
wants to hear excuses anyway, 
and I'm going to get this 

598
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,360
sorted. 
But I think the other thing is, 

599
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,320
what with what's coming up over 
the next kind of three to four 

600
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,280
months and what what what we 
have planned, there are going to

601
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,680
be other people in my situation 
who have either hurt themselves 

602
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,480
coming back from something, you 
know, doesn't matter what the 

603
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,640
experience is, you can always 
take something out of it and 

604
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,200
learn. 
And at this stage, I'll give you

605
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,960
the the, I suppose the most 
transparent I can be is I can't 

606
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,000
run as of today. 
So as of this week, I'm not 

607
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,280
being able to run. 
I've been about, it's been about

608
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,080
7 days since I've been able to 
get on. 

609
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,800
Yeah, no running. 
And so, but as you pointed out, 

610
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,400
there are going to be other 
people in this circumstance and 

611
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,640
your attitude right now, I 
thought you'd be flatter than 

612
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,760
you are. 
And I think there's probably 

613
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,760
something in this a little bit 
just as a pre emptive. 

614
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,480
We're going to talk about this 
more over the next couple of 

615
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,320
months because of leading into 
Goldie Marathon, all the rest of

616
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,760
it. 
But your perspective of just can

617
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,640
you just talk a little bit about
the idea of like, right, you're 

618
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,320
injured, you you're getting it 
diagnosed and and now what? 

619
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,400
Like what's your attitude to it?
You're just going to get it 

620
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:14,800
right. 
Well. 

621
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,520
Probably what's the what's the 
phases agree. 

622
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,280
You probably caught me at the 
you know more towards the end 

623
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,040
phase you. 
Seeming you seem very accepting 

624
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,840
of it, There's no. 
I'm, I'm in the acceptance phase

625
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,240
for sure at the moment, but I'm 
also optimistic that great, you 

626
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:35,000
know, I suppose the reason look,
I went to see professionals. 

627
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,560
That's the first thing. 
Like I tried to manage it for my

628
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,360
by myself for about 5 days, six 
days. 

629
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,800
And then when I saw it wasn't, 
you know, I could have waited 

630
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,880
another week. 
I could have waited three weeks.

631
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,280
But I went. 
And lucky enough, my run group 

632
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,160
have, you know, it's 
multidisciplinary kind of this. 

633
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,240
Professional. 
We've got some professionals in 

634
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,480
there that can help out and 
everyone chipped in, but like I 

635
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,960
actually ask for help this time.
And that's the key. 

636
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,480
That's probably the thing in the
past I have not done really 

637
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,080
well. 
I'll let things go too far and 

638
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,600
this has gone far enough to stop
me running. 

639
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,720
But I think we're also like, 
let's go and sort this out. 

640
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,800
Let's make sure we know what it 
is because I've got to get back.

641
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,200
And that's why I'm probably in a
decent mood is that I'm like, 

642
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,920
I'm going to get answers. 
I'm not guessing any. 

643
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,240
Isn't it weird? 
And this and this is this can be

644
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,600
a lesson and you know what? 
Blokes were talking to you. 

645
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,480
Women are so much better at when
there's an issue, whether it be 

646
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,920
physical, health wise. 
Let's go and get it sorted. 

647
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,080
Blokes is a stereotype and I 
realise I'm throwing a broad 

648
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,640
blanket here. 
We stick our heads in the ground

649
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,720
and we ignore things. 
But as soon as you go and get it

650
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,960
actually checked and share and 
it's like, oh, weight gets 

651
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,640
lifted. 
Yeah, it's not as bad as I 

652
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,000
thought. 
Oh, it's actually there's a 

653
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,120
simple fix to this or there's a 
fix to this. 

654
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,600
I'm not gonna have to figure it 
out in my own brain if I go and 

655
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,680
actually talk to somebody. 
About, oh look, I was, I went 

656
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:59,560
for a run out of Melbourne CBD 
down to the tan and I, I was so 

657
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,800
emotive, I was hobbling. 
But, but I said I'm going to go,

658
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,920
I'm going to get through this. 
You know, it's all good, it's 

659
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,520
all good. 
But then at some point you just 

660
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,440
realise, Nah, it's not, it's not
as good. 

661
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,720
So yes, I'm frustrated 'cause I 
know what I did. 

662
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,200
I know exactly why I did it and 
what I did. 

663
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,520
Yes, I'm accepting at this stage
as well. 

664
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,720
And look, I'm still, yeah, 
you've got to be optimistic. 

665
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,400
I'm optimistic. 
We're still like, either way, 

666
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,200
we'll be down in Tassie. 
So this is on me now. 

667
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,800
Watch, it's you verse Pete 
talking about Pete over there. 

668
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,720
Pete from Solomon, he heard us 
talking last week and he doesn't

669
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,960
want you to have any excuses at 
all that he has all the 

670
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,040
equipment. 
I got to say I haven't met Pete,

671
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,160
but I admire the man because if 
I if if I was put into a match 

672
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,640
race against somebody and I 
could not disadvantage them, but

673
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,800
certainly not bring them up to 
an even playing field by gearing

674
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,520
them up with the best stuff, I 
would take it. 

675
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,360
There is no way if shoe was if 
shoe was on the other foot, 

676
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,560
there's no way I would have done
what Pete has done. 

677
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,840
He'd. 
Give you the training shoes 

678
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,840
instead of. 
Literally arm me. 

679
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,480
He he has. 
I've walked in here to the 

680
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,159
studios today, Courtney, and you
have a gift pack from Pete for 

681
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:18,280
me, from Salomon, and he has arm
me to the teeth with everything 

682
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,560
I need. 
That is, that is. 

683
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:23,960
Talk to me about this shoe. 
That is A cause a it. 

684
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,560
Looks epic. 
It's an expensive shoe it. 

685
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,120
Looks. 
Unbelievable. 

686
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,280
He's looked after you, that's 
for sure. 

687
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,199
So that's the S Lab Genesis true
story that is actually designed 

688
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:39,600
by Ryan Sands, who is a South 
African Red Bull guy who, you 

689
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,520
know, runs around Ultra. 
Yeah, he's run across Nepal of, 

690
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,199
you know, he holds a heap of 
fastest known time records, does

691
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,199
all the same marathons, all that
type of thing. 

692
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,120
But that's so the way Solomon 
worked, they obviously have all 

693
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,560
of their range and then anything
you see with S lab on it is 

694
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,720
there, you know, top of the 
range like the HS finger. 

695
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,760
Holder, yeah. 
Right. 

696
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,760
It's like that, you know, next 
level up. 

697
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:06,240
If that Chinese carbon shoe you 
got me was the ugliest looking 

698
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:09,520
shoe I've seen, this isn't. 
This is the sexiest looking 

699
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,880
running shoe. 
Like hold hold it up to the 

700
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,960
camera so I can zoom in on it 
for once it. 

701
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,000
Feels I'm getting what's that 
famous brand that uses kind of 

702
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,760
the corduroy pattern stylings 
over it? 

703
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,280
I can't think of what it is 
anymore. 

704
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,760
It's got fashion written all 
over. 

705
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,800
It doesn't. 
Have it is this is as 

706
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,240
fashionable a shoe as I've if 
someone walked down the runways 

707
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:32,560
of at a fashion show and this 
you'd go yeah, that looks that 

708
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,240
doesn't look out of. 
Place Yeah, so this is my shoe 

709
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,600
work. 
We were giving you the the soft 

710
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,560
Genesis. 
Yeah, no, we had you in the the 

711
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,080
Ultra Glide. 
Yeah, the Ultra Glide. 

712
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,800
Yeah, very comfy. 
But we talked about the fact 

713
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,080
that. 
But this is what I race. 

714
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,120
This is what I'd race in down at
the speed off and I'll be doing 

715
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,080
my faster fart like in this shoe
and that type of thing. 

716
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,640
So Pete's racing trail shoe he's
got. 

717
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,920
Me a pair of these which is big.
Of him so no excuses he's got 

718
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,720
literally decked you out there 
with. 

719
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,360
Packs and I've got I've got the 
the Salomon vest, I've got the 

720
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,960
hat. 
What you know is you got no 

721
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,320
excuses. 
Now Liam, I know I did get some 

722
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,160
great feedback off our chat last
week when I you were surprised 

723
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,920
about the course and how much 
elevation. 

724
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,320
Was in the first. 
What was that? 

725
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,320
Or just people laughing at you. 
That I'm not aware and 

726
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,800
preparing, yeah. 
Yeah, that. 

727
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,800
That I'd literally thrown you 
under the bus. 

728
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,080
And not only have I thrown, are 
you under the bus now? 

729
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:32,320
I may not do. 
It Oh, I look, I again two weeks

730
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,800
out. 
Yeah, I actually couldn't be. 

731
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,920
We'll talk about our running 
weeks in a SEC, because, and not

732
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,000
to rub salt into your tight hip 
pointer wound, I'm actually 

733
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,200
running really good at the 
moment. 

734
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,480
Well, that's good to hear. 
I'm running really good, he's. 

735
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,440
Not gonna like to hear that I'm 
running really good. 

736
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,200
I'll tell you a bit more about. 
The way to do that? 

737
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,920
I'm I look two weeks out. 
I'm gutted that you're where you

738
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,360
are with the injury I am. 
I'm getting genuinely more and 

739
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,880
more excited about this. 
I can't wait. 

740
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,320
I'm so excited. 
It's gonna be a great adventure.

741
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,080
I'm looking forward. 
To Yeah, well after this one, 

742
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,160
the next time we actually chat 
we'll be be coming out on the 

743
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,240
Saturday morning of of. 
We'll be down there. 

744
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:14,360
The event, yeah, Alright, so the
last one on this type of thing, 

745
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,800
well, not running specifically, 
but you know, we're talking 

746
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,160
about High Rocks and CrossFit 
and the CrossFit is moving over,

747
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,200
funny enough. 
Talk about trends. 

748
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:28,200
I see CrossFit is up for sale. 
The whole thing. 

749
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,000
The the whole thing so funny 
enough, isn't, isn't Berkshire 

750
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,480
Partners? 
Isn't that who we're talking 

751
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,400
about? 
Owen Brooks? 

752
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,560
Was that the same old? 
Berkshire Hathaway Berkshire 

753
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,520
Hathaway. 
Now that's famous. 

754
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,200
Who's the? 
Well, go figure. 

755
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,040
This one says after five years, 
Berkshire Partners they who 

756
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,480
acquired CrossFit have now put 
it up for for sale. 

757
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,360
Not a good sign. 
Yeah, what is it? 

758
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:59,280
What do you read into that? 
I read into it that they. 

759
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:05,280
Has the bubble burst? 
Interestingly, do you know who 

760
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,040
signed with High Rocks as like a
provider or a partner? 

761
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,120
F45F45 used to run their own 
events too. 

762
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,480
It's an interesting, like I 
suppose there's no different to 

763
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,480
running to having multiple or 
triathlon, having multiple 

764
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,600
distances, multiple brands who 
own events and all that type of 

765
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,800
thing. 
But what is more interesting I 

766
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,760
think around this, like call it 
the hybrid space or whatever it 

767
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:39,280
is, they seem to kind of all 
flock to the one and then move 

768
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,200
to the next. 
I'm just trying to think. 

769
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,400
And then the next. 
If there's a sport that's died 

770
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,160
before. 
What about it wasn't called True

771
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,880
Grit? 
What was the Tough Mudder? 

772
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Tough Mudder? 
Have you had a Tough Mudder 

773
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,680
reason? 
No, I haven't. 

774
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,120
How big? 
Tough Mudder was. 

775
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,960
Yes. 
Everyone going to Tough Mudder 

776
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,720
that. 
Was when you think about it, 

777
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:06,720
really what High Rocks is doing 
at the moment, It is to an 

778
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:12,120
extent causing I, I, I'm trying 
to think of another sport or 

779
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,520
event that has kind of caused 
the extinction of, of so many 

780
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,800
other things because CrossFit. 
Tough Mudder, I don't think 

781
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,160
we've not very. 
Extinct but like, but it's 

782
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,520
certainly diminished the the 
spotlight time. 

783
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,960
Spartan racing is the other one.
Spartan racing was a big thing. 

784
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,000
A lot of those Spartan race 
athletes have have converted now

785
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,680
to high rocks. 
Yeah, I, I wonder. 

786
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,320
Well, interesting like say Tia 
Claire Toomey, who yes, thought 

787
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,480
we talked about. 
Race with James Newberry in High

788
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,600
Rocks in Brisbane. 
Correct, but I mean she was the 

789
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,160
Crossfitter. 
Fittest woman on the planet? 

790
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,880
Suddenly she's the face of Hyrox
in the sense of every single 

791
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,560
thing I'm seeing on Hyrox 
everyday. 

792
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,080
She's in it, she's in the top 
15, she's going to the chair, 

793
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,800
she's actually running. 
Really like watching her run. 

794
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,280
She's moving really well. 
This. 

795
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,040
Is really interesting that yeah,
as you say, CrossFit is 

796
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,800
officially for sale. 
I wonder, look, it doesn't mean 

797
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,120
the end of it. 
UFC, famously, that's true, was 

798
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,960
for sale, got sold, right? 
And the people that took it over

799
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,120
and Dana Wyden, the, I forget 
the name of the brothers Cahns 

800
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,520
or something, they turned it 
into what it is now. 

801
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,920
It's a monster. 
It's a monster. 

802
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,520
It's unstoppable. 
Maybe whoever buys CrossFit does

803
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,160
the same thing. 
I don't know, but it's certainly

804
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,720
at a crossroads. 
Yeah, so there was AF 45 and 

805
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:38,400
High Rocks I saw were putting an
event on in Sydney. 

806
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,240
I'm not sure. 
It might be a new one, like they

807
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,520
might have added one, or whether
it's just the Sydney version of 

808
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,480
it. 
In the comments people were 

809
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,320
whinging because they were 
saying it's on the same day as 

810
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,080
Gold Coast Marathon. 
So the crossover is real. 

811
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,560
Wow. 
The crossover's real. 

812
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,960
Which is. 
Yeah, that's fascinating. 

813
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,120
Really good to see. 
Interesting. 

814
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:03,280
All right, quick, quick loose 
end from last week Yep. 

815
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,240
And oh, what on earth from what 
on earth? 

816
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,480
What on earth mate from? 
He's showroom Drew the Cyclone. 

817
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,760
He was down in Chugen, hanging 
out out the front of Fox's 

818
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,120
pantry. 
Yeah, great man. 

819
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,360
He said he was challenging us 
because we're talking a lot 

820
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,560
about Strive to Survive being 
the original that kind of 

821
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,680
brought sport to the mainstream.
He was actually saying, like the

822
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,240
movie Unbreakable is exactly the
same. 

823
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,040
The scenes with the ultra 
runners. 

824
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,200
Oh. 
Hold on now, there's a movie. 

825
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,120
Isn't there a movie Unbreakable 
about? 

826
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,720
No. 
Well, this. 

827
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:42,840
Must be. 
Which ones are you talking 

828
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,080
about? 
I. 

829
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,760
Reckon it must be someone that 
says scenes with ultra runners, 

830
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,680
the movie with the behind the 
scenes with ultra runners. 

831
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,320
And he said, Also Courtney, when
I first come to run Trails, 

832
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,680
Solomon had the channel Solomon 
TV, which I'm pretty sure the F1

833
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,440
show was based on. 
They do a behind the scenes of 

834
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,160
the kind of golden series, but 
it's it's really focused more on

835
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,000
running than the actual circus 
of it. 

836
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,440
Just had a quick Google, I'll 
have to watch it. 

837
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,440
I haven't seen this. 
There's a movie called. 

838
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,000
It was filmed in 2012 called 
Unbreakable. 

839
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,400
The western states one. 100 OK, 
so it's around Western. 

840
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,160
States it's four world class 
undefeated mountain runners 

841
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,880
compete in the gruelling Western
States 100 mile endurance race 

842
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,320
I'm gonna have to watch it OK 
I'm already excited to watch it 

843
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,920
I wanna watch it but yeah I 
couldn't comment on that now 

844
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,520
there's a movie called 
unbreakable with Bruce Willis in

845
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,040
it is that's. 
Is that the bone? 

846
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,080
The yeah, yeah, yeah, the glass.
Man, I don't think that's what 

847
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,960
Anderson's. 
Referring to, yeah and all 

848
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,480
right. 
Let's talk about our running 

849
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,320
weeks. 
Well, you haven't done anything.

850
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,240
I've got plenty to talk about. 
I've I've don't worry, I've done

851
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:43,960
a lot of this has probably been 
my busiest week of the year, 

852
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,480
just missing the running. 
Missing the running? 

853
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Let me wrap you up my running 
week so far to all those people 

854
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,280
out there. 
I had so many people reach out 

855
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,080
saying hey mate, I'll go for a 
long run if you. 

856
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:59,080
Want Liz was so nice. 
Liam the loner over there it 

857
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,000
was. 
So nice, like people were 

858
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,760
genuinely concerned that I was 
too scared to face the long run 

859
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,240
by myself and I genuinely 
appreciate it and I will take 

860
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:09,320
you up on, I will take some of 
you up on the offer. 

861
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,000
I got a long run done OK last 
weekend. 

862
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,760
I managed to punch out 2425 KS, 
maintain my pace, felt good. 

863
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,240
You know what the key was 
actually in the end, taking a 

864
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:24,760
water bottle with me, like just 
taking like a Little Popper 

865
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,520
water bottle thing that my kids 
had had from somewhere, filling 

866
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,640
that with water along the way, 
just constantly filling that up 

867
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,320
and sipping as I was running 
really made a difference. 

868
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,880
So just water. 
Just just. 

869
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,920
Water, No, I didn't have any, 
didn't have any stuff to put in 

870
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,840
at the time, but yeah, it, it 
really helped. 

871
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,360
So I got a long run done. 
So thank you to everybody. 

872
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,120
I'm OK. 
I've overcome my fears. 

873
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:52,120
Yesterday at the day before we 
were recording this, I went out 

874
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:58,400
and did an interval session. 
I got a new one KPBI have not as

875
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,560
part of an interval session. 
So I'm sure I could probably go 

876
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,480
out and if I just ran 1K flat 
out I could probably beat it. 

877
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,080
But as part of an interval 
session. 

878
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,960
Where were you doing? 
This just along the front at in 

879
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,800
Chugen sort of cure around there
I went. 

880
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,000
I did 4K warm up and then it was
51K intervals. 

881
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,960
The plan was to do 55 hundreds 
as well walking in between but I

882
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,560
popped on the third one and 
jogged a couple of K home so 

883
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,880
that was enough. 
But the 5K, the 51K intervals 

884
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:30,920
that I did the breakdown went 
55. 

885
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:38,800
Sorry 35348, three 43340 and a 
337. 

886
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,320
Oh Gee, 337 is the fastest I 
have ever run a kilometre. 

887
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,760
Well controlled really. 
It's yeah, 337's as quick as 

888
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,520
I've ever run a car. 
'Cause you've never really gone 

889
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,040
out to just do a 1K like. 
No, but as part of an interval 

890
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,520
session and that was my last. 
Well, that's that's. 

891
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,040
Exciting, I know This is this is
what I mean. 

892
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,000
I'm running. 
You're running well I'm running 

893
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:58,640
really well. 
I've. 

894
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:04,240
Given you all my mojo out here. 
So I'm I got over my long run 

895
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:06,120
fear. 
I had a great interval session 

896
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,320
the other morning and shout out 
to Ryan L Worthy, who I stole 

897
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,200
the set from here. 
I saw it pop up on his driver. 

898
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,560
I said that looks like a fun 
set. 

899
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,560
He's like it's a cracker. 
I stole that. 

900
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,160
So thank you. 
And then lastly, last thing I 

901
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,440
want to wrap up. 
After I did that interval 

902
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:26,160
session, I went to one of those 
foot the the the massage places 

903
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,480
just in the mall. 
One of those massage. 

904
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,640
Places. 
Just not those massage places. 

905
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,400
Well, there's well. 
It's it's like just in the, you 

906
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,800
know, you never know around the 
Gold Coast where you what rock 

907
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,720
into. 
It is hard to tell what's what. 

908
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,720
The rule of thumb I operate with
is if it's got the fluoro sign 

909
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:42,800
out the front saying open, it's 
not that kind. 

910
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,400
What is that kind of place? 
You know, this was one in the 

911
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,280
Pines, Eleonora there. 
So I'm as long I go with. 

912
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,760
If it's in a mall you're pretty 
safe. 

913
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,800
As long as it doesn't have 
curtains draped over the. 

914
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,560
Front yeah, I love the I just go
the old foot reflexology. 

915
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,280
I just love them, you know, 
surprise runner, the bloke who 

916
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,160
was doing my fate wearing a 
Sydney marathon shirt and I 

917
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,960
said, oh, did you run the 
marrow? 

918
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,640
And he's like, yes, two years 
ago I'm like, oh, amazing, how'd

919
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,760
you go? 
He's like, yeah, it was good. 

920
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,520
And he said I just ran APB in a 
soccer and I was like, really? 

921
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:21,240
He said yeah, I ran a 255. 
And I was like, and and you 

922
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:23,920
know, we didn't spend the next 
15 minutes talking to him about 

923
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,120
running. 
So, new listener, Yeah, yeah, I 

924
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,400
put him on the pod. 
I put your. 

925
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,640
Recruit Here's the link. 
Give me a phone run Subscribe. 

926
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,760
Yeah, the important. 
Thing yeah, so shout out to 

927
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,840
shout out to the new, my new 
mate at the the massage joint 

928
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,360
there, he was great. 
He's and I just loved runners 

929
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,000
were everywhere, Courtney and I 
think again it came back to this

930
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,280
why we started doing this 'cause
you never know who's a runner. 

931
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,880
Yeah. 
Everywhere, everywhere, 

932
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,640
everywhere. 
Now talk to me about your week 

933
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,200
of non running. 
Yeah, what I'm going to talk 

934
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:00,520
about runners being everywhere. 
So yesterday morning I walked, I

935
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,320
was down at Carawa Broad Beach 
and I just walked around the 

936
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,480
park for about 50 minutes, 
'cause I couldn't, I couldn't 

937
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,600
run and I just wanted to get 
out. 

938
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,160
And do you know what I noticed 
suddenly when I started walking?

939
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,840
How many runners are around? 
The next thing I'll notice is 

940
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,680
how quick runners are going at 
the moment. 

941
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,800
All of a sudden everyone seemed 
in the weather. 

942
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,640
It was just 'cause I was walking
and they were flying like people

943
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,480
out doing interval sessions, 
tempos, like ice. 

944
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,520
We've we've been seeing runners.
But at the moment now I'm seeing

945
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,880
runners actually running, you 
know, not just jogging around. 

946
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,640
Just say it's the in the 
beginning effect. 

947
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:36,640
Yeah, of. 
Course. 

948
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,960
Yeah, they. 
So how did you, what did you, I 

949
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,360
mean, aside from observing the 
the speed of it, what else did 

950
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,360
you notice about it it. 
Was just sad that people were 

951
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,760
moving really like that. 
Multiple people I saw, both male

952
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,560
and female that morning were 
moving really well. 

953
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,400
Yeah, like, look like runners 
out there, like, you know, they 

954
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,800
could have turned up to a Gold 
Coast Run Coast session, joined 

955
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,400
in and not being out of place. 
Mr Beat, not even Mr Beat and I.

956
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,320
And whether like I said, whether
I was, I was just walking and I 

957
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,560
took more in, but that's the 
observation I made yesterday 

958
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,640
morning. 
But go back to the previous 

959
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,240
week. 
I've had a huge week, mate. 

960
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,080
Absolute. 
I mean, when I say week going 

961
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,880
back to last Wednesday, I did 
get last Wednesday, I flipped 

962
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,200
down to Melbourne and the first 
thing I did was did a little bit

963
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,320
of goodwill and went out and saw
a young triathlon group out of 

964
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,800
Port Melbourne Momentum share 
that to the Momentum Triathlon 

965
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,000
Group and just a hippy young. 
It was actually nice because it 

966
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,160
was just a hippy young. 
When I say young kids, probably 

967
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,840
anyone from I think the youngest
might have been 1213 all the way

968
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,280
up to a young lady who just got 
8th in the New Zealand Iron Man.

969
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,800
Like said like amazing, like 
professional and we just sat in 

970
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,240
the park and and just chewed the
fat. 

971
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,280
How do they compare to how you 
were at that age? 

972
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,080
Do you know that? 
Did you find yourself thinking 

973
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,360
back to? 
Yeah, just, well, that that was 

974
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,640
a lot of the stories I was 
telling. 

975
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,120
It's just, you know, a lot of 
them are trying to make, you 

976
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,800
know, young Australian teams or,
you know, even nowadays some of 

977
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,440
the questions come up as around 
like how do I, you know, how do 

978
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,080
I market myself in a social 
media era? 

979
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,200
Like how do I get some of? 
The stuff you tell them. 

980
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,200
Yeah, well, I think one of the 
main things came out around, you

981
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,000
know, if I want to attract 
sponsors, I'm not the best, like

982
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,240
I'm not winning, you know, how 
do I track sponsors? 

983
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:35,160
And the, the, the main thing I 
said to them is when, Yeah, this

984
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,120
is my thoughts, at least on 
social media, is, you know, 

985
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,600
social media is made to create 
sheep. 

986
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,840
And why, why is why I say that 
is social media is, you know, if

987
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,840
you get on there, it's generally
trends you think about, whether 

988
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,760
it's Tiktok or Instagram or 
whatever. 

989
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,680
It's nearly like you're taught 
to be successful by following 

990
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,800
others and and adhere to the 
trend. 

991
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,680
Yeah, but unless you're at the 
top of the tree of that trend, 

992
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,920
yeah, you're just another 
another person. 

993
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:08,440
There aren't. 
You. 

994
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,520
Yeah, like. 
Why would someone, why would a, 

995
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,520
why would a company, why would a
sponsor and we're to a sport 

996
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,920
here or whatever. 
If you're just doing the same 

997
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,480
thing as someone who's doing the
same thing, but they're actually

998
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,280
performing better than you, you 
know, why would the company want

999
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,680
to invest in you? 
So my thing was all about, you 

1000
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,600
know, creating 
individualisation. 

1001
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,240
Yeah, standing out from the 
crowd. 

1002
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:29,920
And that doesn't mean being a 
clown. 

1003
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:32,840
That just means doing things 
your way and being, you know, 

1004
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,680
being yourself. 
Because at the end of the day, 

1005
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,360
really, that's your only point 
of difference. 

1006
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,080
That is the only point of 
difference and I can tell you 

1007
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,720
right now it's what businesses 
love. 

1008
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:44,240
In the end, there's a story 
about you. 

1009
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,120
It's how you can relate to that 
business or the product. 

1010
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,160
And then it's a story about you.
You know, people will follow 

1011
00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:56,080
you. 
They won't follow you just 

1012
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,000
because you're doing the same 
thing as, you know, the other 

1013
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,800
thousand people before you. 
You know, it's very similar to 

1014
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,640
some of the shoe stuff you see 
around where you know someone 

1015
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,960
will flick some shoes on their 
feet and then you might get a 

1016
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,560
lot of clicks. 
But how does that actually 

1017
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,840
relate and, and make a 
conversion to someone going, oh,

1018
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,640
I saw that. 
I actually, I actually, you 

1019
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,440
know, have a connection with 
that person or a connection with

1020
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,440
what they're doing. 
They're telling me what they 

1021
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,920
wear or what they do or how they
go about things. 

1022
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,400
And then suddenly that's going 
to make a conversion for me to 

1023
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,000
then go and choose that product.
Click that up. 

1024
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,600
There's there's the video. 
There's the video from this app,

1025
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,440
Courtney I. 
Can never find them when we go. 

1026
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,240
No, I don't know. 
That's that's gold. 

1027
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:38,800
It's you. 
You. 

1028
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,800
You are so right. 
But you just can't. 

1029
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,680
You can't do the same thing as 
everyone else and expect to just

1030
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,360
get the same result because 
you're not first to market. 

1031
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,680
No, it's, it's, it's 
interesting. 

1032
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,720
It's. 
Interesting because the young 

1033
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:56,440
kids are asking those questions.
You know, as opposed to how do I

1034
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,040
cut down my transition times? 
I'll run better off the bike. 

1035
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,160
Exactly like, you know, I 
thought you were going to go how

1036
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,640
do I cut weight or something, 
but probably, you know, yeah. 

1037
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,640
So there was it was, it was, but
it was just nice. 

1038
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,680
It was really informal. 
We just sat down and did that. 

1039
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,680
So that was the start of my big 
weekend. 

1040
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:16,920
So then I was off to the F1 
Friday we had could I have in 

1041
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,320
town. 
I had a bit of AFL for the day. 

1042
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,480
Lots of inside information mate 
that I can't share with a 

1043
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,400
commentator like yourself. 
Now I've got a bone to pick with

1044
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,080
you. 
OK? 

1045
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,440
What the hell are you doing out 
on the MCG? 

1046
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,160
Covered in Collingwood 
paraphernalia supporting 

1047
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,080
Magpies. 
No accusations here. 

1048
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,800
I. 
I've seen the photo mate. 

1049
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,000
I've seen the photo, I know 
there's a story behind. 

1050
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,240
It that is sent to me by several
people saying what the hell? 

1051
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:48,480
They're not, they're not really 
like that. 

1052
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,880
So the last place I expected to 
end up was on the MCG in in the 

1053
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,160
middle of, you know, the big 
banner. 

1054
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,520
Well, they're up on the side of 
the banner so well through Red 

1055
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:01,920
Bull, it was a connection 
through Red Bull. 

1056
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,640
Obviously they deal with AFL and
a whole range of things, but 

1057
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,160
Chucky. 
So Daniel Sanders, DACA winner, 

1058
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,040
is a hardcore Collingwood fan 
as. 

1059
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,400
Well, you can tell from the 
photo. 

1060
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,640
Yes, I had who do we have? 
We had like Jess Fox, Matt, Matt

1061
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,400
Hall of the guy does the stunt 
play made me throw up in the 

1062
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,520
play. 
I had the guy Alpha blokes 

1063
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,720
podcast, Tommy was with us. 
We had a goal group before we 

1064
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:26,400
knew it, someone from 
Collingwood just shove flags in 

1065
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,920
their hands and said go out and 
and then and then someone takes 

1066
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:36,040
a photo and then before you know
it, on Friday I had Brisbane 

1067
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,400
with me. 
Yeah, and the two Adelaide teams

1068
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,320
with me. 
How do you think? 

1069
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,760
How do you think I know I? 
Hope they've all seen that. 

1070
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,320
Just at defence of all they 
shoved the flag in my hand. 

1071
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,760
That's not going to hold up in 
court, mate. 

1072
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,920
That's no. 
If you've got, I mean you, you 

1073
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,440
probably have if you got the 
chance to go out in the embassy.

1074
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,720
Politely decline. 
You say thank you, but I'm a man

1075
00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:56,240
of principle. 
No one was a man of principal or

1076
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:58,240
woman or woman of principal that
night. 

1077
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:00,120
It was literally like we just 
did it. 

1078
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,000
But it was a great. 
I mean, that was like, these are

1079
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,920
the things that. 
What did you what did you find? 

1080
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,560
How did you find being out in 
the G? 

1081
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,560
Did you take a moment to look 
around? 

1082
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,800
I just got chastised 'cause I 
pulled my camera out and then 

1083
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,520
they, you know, the rights 
holders come up. 

1084
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,000
Oh. 
Yeah, 'cause you're not never, 

1085
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,880
Yeah, you're not even taking 
photos and stuff. 

1086
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,560
No. 
Did you get in trouble? 

1087
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:19,920
I got in a little get a little 
bit of a. 

1088
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,720
Slap on the wrist. 
But what I was gonna say, I've 

1089
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:27,240
been to the MCG plenty of times 
and you know, they've obviously 

1090
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:29,480
got meeting rooms around there. 
I've never been to a sporting 

1091
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,280
event at the MCG. 
Oh wow. 

1092
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,600
So that's the reason I ended up 
there. 

1093
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,640
I was incredible, right. 
Hey, we've got a chance to go 

1094
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,960
and you know, see a game tonight
Port we're playing. 

1095
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,680
So Trav Boaks or Red Bull 
athletes. 

1096
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,720
Yes, that's right. 
Stewie Graham, the high 

1097
00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:45,080
performance manager I've just 
been with the day before, and 

1098
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,840
then I ended up on the opposite 
team. 

1099
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,840
Has Trav reached? 
Has Trav messaged you? 

1100
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:52,280
No, Trav's wouldn't have. 
Been happy about that. 

1101
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,000
They weren't. 
They didn't play very well. 

1102
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,240
They didn't play very well. 
I think he got hurt too. 

1103
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:02,240
So yeah, a couple of days at the
F1, which were long days, which,

1104
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:04,920
you know, obviously, yeah, Red 
Bull giving us great 

1105
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,760
hospitality, checking out the 
cars on the. 

1106
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,720
Back foot this year on the good 
Red Bull. 

1107
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,400
Still got a second, but one 
second. 

1108
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,160
McLaren looked very sharp. 
They they look very sharp. 

1109
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,640
They are. 
There's, don't worry, there's 

1110
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,800
plenty of bandit. 
There's a lot of Ferrari fans 

1111
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,280
who thought they were gonna, 
like, win. 

1112
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,640
It's good for the sport. 
I think the domination of Red 

1113
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:28,080
Bull for the last decade with 
Verstappen has been incredible 

1114
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,640
to watch. 
But as a neutral, I think it's 

1115
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,880
and and someone who can't wait 
for the next series of Broad 

1116
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,240
Survivor to come out. 
Yeah, it's great because I love 

1117
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,880
what it's cut I. 
Think it's over. 

1118
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,840
What? 
Yeah, don't take that as gospel.

1119
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,840
Anyone listening? 
But they after we just said it 

1120
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,960
was the best show we've seen 
last week, they're not bringing 

1121
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:49,880
it back. 
And they've copped. 

1122
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,520
They've copped a lot of Flack 
about the last series, about 

1123
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,800
making up the storylines. 
Do you know one thing I will 

1124
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,360
share to you or share? 
I'm, I'm frantically, Yeah. 

1125
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,040
While you're Googling that, I'll
tell you a bit of a story about 

1126
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,160
the difference between F1 and 
any other sports. 

1127
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,600
So, you know, through my role at
Red Bull, we get to, you know, 

1128
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,520
obviously attend plenty of 
sporting events. 

1129
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,560
Like I said, ended up on the MCG
on the weekend, you know, at the

1130
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,640
pits, in super cars, a whole 
range of different sports. 

1131
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,960
F1 is then another level. 
Really. 

1132
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:28,920
So like even you know, going on 
a pit tour, say at the F1, as 

1133
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:33,160
you enter the pits, it's like 
literally cameras down. 

1134
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:38,280
No one take a photo. 
You just are ushered in. 

1135
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,320
Even as like isn't as a company,
you know, as part of the company

1136
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,720
as being, you know, within the 
family of the company who own 

1137
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:53,280
the team, you are literally just
ushered in like just like 1 of 

1138
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:58,000
30 they've got through that day.
Don't touch anything. 

1139
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,360
Don't bring that phone out of 
your pocket. 

1140
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,200
Because of the IP. 
Because of the IP, they don't 

1141
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,960
want to show anything on those 
cars and they also don't want 

1142
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,800
to, you know, you can imagine 
all the, I suppose, hospitality 

1143
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,160
sponsors, everything happening 
at that event over the weekend. 

1144
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,840
It's just, we think it's great 
for them and they're just 

1145
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,880
working. 
It's another weekend and they do

1146
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,760
that. 
I think what is it, 24 or 26 

1147
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,320
races this year they're doing 
that week in, week out every 

1148
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:25,800
time. 
And how would you be at? 

1149
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,400
You're doing your radio show 
each morning and 10 people just 

1150
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,000
come and decide to sit on your 
shoulder. 

1151
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,520
And if someone and they wanted 
to touch the thing. 

1152
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,200
And they want a photo with you. 
Why are you trying to do the 

1153
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,880
keyboard? 
You know, touchpad. 

1154
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,800
I will say we've had that happen
a couple of times already this 

1155
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,600
year. 
They've had functions happening 

1156
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,480
on in the mornings in the radio 
station and all of a sudden you 

1157
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,800
see 30 people fall past the 
studio. 

1158
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,160
And they come in. 
And it's, you know, it's a bit 

1159
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,720
of fun. 
It's not high pressure and all. 

1160
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,240
And. 
But yeah, if you had to do that 

1161
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,080
every time you tried to do your 
job, it would become. 

1162
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,400
Yeah, but. 
It's it's the next, it's the 

1163
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,960
next level. 
Then once you get out the front 

1164
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,240
of the pits, there's a red line 
and then it's OK to kind of then

1165
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,000
within a reason, you can take 
take your photos and look, 

1166
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,720
they've obviously got to cater 
to their sponsors as well. 

1167
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,440
But yeah, it's it's unique in 
that way that there's nothing 

1168
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,800
that I've been around, I suppose
that compares at that level. 

1169
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,400
I was disappointed for the race 
itself. 

1170
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,800
I was a bit disappointed that 
they had to go through the the 

1171
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,000
the weather and the weather. 
That was the best race they've 

1172
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:25,640
had in. 
Years. 

1173
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,840
This is what everyone tells me, 
but yeah. 

1174
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,160
So I got home. 
I actually watched the race back

1175
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,080
here in the You didn't. 
Even stay for the race. 

1176
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,000
No, I watched there for 
qualifying, had the boys from 

1177
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,240
actually shout out to the boys 
from Alpha Blokes podcast, which

1178
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,360
obviously you know, we're doing 
our little thing here, but the 

1179
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:47,040
boys were down with me and 
having a lot of fun and being 

1180
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,800
recognised. 
So that's what we put on for for

1181
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,280
people to come and have a good 
time. 

1182
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,400
I've I've got a poll I want to 
put out to the to maybe at 

1183
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,800
another time, But because I do 
want to get a sense of the other

1184
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,120
podcasts that the the the the in
the beginning family listened to

1185
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,240
because I want to, I want to get
wrap my ears around some other 

1186
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:09,680
stuff to get a sense of the 
other stuff that our listeners 

1187
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,640
listen to just to get a you. 
Think it'd be out like heavy? 

1188
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,280
Run. 
I don't know, I'm just genuinely

1189
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,680
curious. 
Yeah, I'm looking to expand my 

1190
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,920
podcast horizons. 
I think it'd have to be a like a

1191
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,160
write in question because you 
couldn't do a poll. 

1192
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,960
Too hard to do a. 
Poll too hard to do a poll. 

1193
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,800
Another one. 
What else is going on mate? 

1194
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,080
So much this morning actually 
talking about F1. 

1195
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,800
Still, this morning I was 
sitting here on the computer and

1196
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,240
Christian Horner the. 
The team, The team, the 

1197
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,000
principal. 
Probably one of the best 

1198
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,560
interviews here. 
He was in the Red Bull office 

1199
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,680
down in Sydney and one of the 
best interviews I'll probably 

1200
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,520
listen to. 
Can you give us anything from it

1201
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:51,440
I can? 
Egotistic, lots of humour. 

1202
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,920
Yep. 
And strategically brilliant. 

1203
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,480
Yeah, right. 
There's so many, so many 

1204
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,400
perlers. 
One of the big things he said 

1205
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,120
that are like a few things that 
came back and I heard. 

1206
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,800
One thing is, he said, because 
someone was asking about you got

1207
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,360
so much data, it was like the 
rain on the weekend falling. 

1208
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,120
You've got all that data from 
the rain, but how do you make 

1209
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,600
the call? 
When do you bring them in? 

1210
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:12,920
When do you get them on that 
tyre? 

1211
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,520
And the one thing he said, he 
goes, you can have all the data 

1212
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,640
in the world, but the worst 
thing you can do is just follow 

1213
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:20,920
it blindly. 
Yeah. 

1214
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,560
Because sometimes you just go, 
well, he was saying, look up 

1215
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,000
because of the rain. 
You've actually just got to 

1216
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,560
physically go feel it. 
But I suppose the rather one is 

1217
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,840
you just got to listen to the we
got in the real world. 

1218
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,320
Sometimes he's saying like, I've
just got to listen to my driver 

1219
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,760
because they're the ones who 
know. 

1220
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,000
So it's taking both sides. 
You can have you got to have a 

1221
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,280
bit of everything and balance, 
just like we talk about in 

1222
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,880
running or life to make the 
decisions, right? 

1223
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,720
And that's how they make the 
decision. 

1224
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,400
It's it's. 
Use the data you got but go and 

1225
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,320
go. 
I was thinking about that 

1226
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,040
attitude, the philosophy, in a 
similar way to watching The 

1227
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,560
Players Championship of golf the
other weekend. 

1228
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,720
Because there was a, there's 
some, there's a conspiracy 

1229
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,640
theory or a theory that's come 
out that JJ Spawn, who lost in 

1230
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:09,360
the playoffs to Rory McIlroy, 
made the mistake of looking at 

1231
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,160
what club Rory took off the tee 
on this one of these playoff 

1232
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:17,240
holes where Rory landed it. 
Basically Rory gave a three 

1233
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,760
quarter swing on his pitching 
wedge or his nine or something 

1234
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,840
and JJ Spawn saw him pull out 
the nines. 

1235
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,440
So he went for an 8 and blasted 
it over the green or something 

1236
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:27,560
like that. 
I might be getting the clubs 

1237
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,320
mixed up and the idea of the 
commentators picked up on him 

1238
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,560
looking at Rory's club selection
saying, oh, I don't know if 

1239
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,680
that's a good idea of making 
your selection off what someone 

1240
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,880
else is doing. 
Basically your strategy around 

1241
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:44,760
your competitor and that idea of
going at the end of the day, you

1242
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,920
know you're going to be the one 
and this applies to everything I

1243
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,480
guess, but you're going to be 
the one responsible for, you can

1244
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,120
cite other factors you can cite,
oh, well, my competitor did this

1245
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,080
and my Co worker did that and so
and so was doing that. 

1246
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,960
So therefore I did this. 
But at the end of the day, 

1247
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,640
you're the one that has to deal 
with the outcomes of your 

1248
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,240
choices, so you might as well 
make it on your own merits. 

1249
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,720
Yeah, but there's something 
about, well, what I took away 

1250
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:12,040
from it, about this, you you 
internally sometimes just know 

1251
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,160
when something you know, you 
know when there's something 

1252
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,440
right or wrong. 
Yeah. 

1253
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,040
And trust your gut. 
Cool. 

1254
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,280
Trust your. 
Gut great experience. 

1255
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,840
Amazing. 
Now, finally, a little bit of 

1256
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,560
gear. 
Oh well, let's talk, let's talk 

1257
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,240
gear I'm still enamoured with. 
Have you finished about weeks 

1258
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:25,920
slab? 
Shoes. 

1259
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,000
Yeah, yeah, that's me. 
I'm. 

1260
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,880
I'm so I can't. 
Stop looking at your your shoes.

1261
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,240
Quickly before those shoes, 
should I give them a run around 

1262
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,640
before Kanani? 
Yes, OK. 

1263
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,040
Thank you. 
I'd I'd run them in right. 

1264
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,440
They'll handle, they'll handle a
lot of quesos on the design, 

1265
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,560
kind of like Ryan. 
I'll run in them, yeah. 

1266
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,440
I'll run in them this weekend. 
If you see me on the trails, 

1267
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,280
shout out my shoes. 
So this, this is something, I 

1268
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,320
don't know how interested you'll
be in this Liam, but now Taka 

1269
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,880
Kasuga. 
Now would it? 

1270
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,480
Yep. 
Taka Kasuga. 

1271
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,240
Well, Japanese at least you 
pronounce it. 

1272
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,360
It's a very easy print. 
That's the one thing I can 

1273
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,040
pronounce Japanese words. 
Yeah, 'cause it's just on the 

1274
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,840
the two two letter syllables, 
right. 

1275
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,440
So he's the creative force 
behind Arterix. 

1276
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,520
Yeah, to Ark. 
Terex I've always been 

1277
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,040
fascinated how you pronounce 
that brand and. 

1278
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,000
I'll probably pronounce it 
wrong, no? 

1279
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,800
No, no, I love it. 
Arterix. 

1280
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,400
Ark for sure, yeah, you can 
never get it wrong with that 

1281
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,440
one. 
But obviously that's a it's a 

1282
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,200
Canadian company like outdoor 
company, a little bit like, 

1283
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,640
yeah, you top end retail North 
face, North Face thing, right. 

1284
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,560
Like it's really it's their gore
Tex Jack. 

1285
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:37,040
Isn't that a really expensive 
They are actually part of the 

1286
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,680
Solomon family, like the the the
bigger umbrella family. 

1287
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,840
What is interesting. 
So like he's obviously made a 

1288
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,600
massive impact with this in 
street style sports and 

1289
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,880
everything. 
He has moved to Nike as VP of 

1290
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,120
Design Excellence for apparel, 
accessories, accessories and 

1291
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,880
equipment. 
Interesting. 

1292
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:03,200
Very interesting. 
So what does that say to you 

1293
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,120
about Nike? 
Because clearly they've poached 

1294
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,080
him. 
They've gone and said we want 

1295
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,120
you. 
What it says is watch out for 

1296
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:17,200
what's coming because you know, 
he's taken a brand. 

1297
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,880
It's it's very street, but the 
technical way they do like if 

1298
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,320
you talk to and it's probably 
more the Americans and 

1299
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,120
Canadians. 
But if you have anyone who has 

1300
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:30,960
our stuff, not only is it bloody
expensive and you know, on 

1301
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:35,600
trend, but from what I've heard,
I haven't tried a lot of it, but

1302
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,160
from what I've heard, it's like 
the bomb on technical. 

1303
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,400
As well from the technical 
perspective. 

1304
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,280
Yeah, I mean what you know. 
And now you're. 

1305
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,800
Using all the same types of 
materials, but like from a 

1306
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:50,400
technical point of view, you 
know, all of their down jackets 

1307
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,800
and their Gore Tex jackets and 
everything like that. 

1308
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,280
It's like, you know the best in 
the business, but you pay for. 

1309
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,640
It and now he's going to a 
company with all the bells and 

1310
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,200
whistles where budgety budget 
will be unlimited. 

1311
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,400
But also like more matte like 
you know, number wise, like what

1312
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,680
then the amount they produce is,
you know, matte on scale, I 

1313
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,920
would say compared. 
To I wonder what the I wonder 

1314
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,120
what the challenges that will 
present for him to go from 

1315
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,880
somewhere like that with Arc to 
somewhere like Nike. 

1316
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,120
Yeah. 
Well, I would even wonder 

1317
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:21,080
whether they're looking at, you 
know, maybe creating more custom

1318
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,760
lines in this like custom. 
Oh, OK. 

1319
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,960
Sort of more niche stuff within.
The IKEA scope, yes, or whether 

1320
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,320
it's just like purely, you know,
to work on collaborations with 

1321
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,240
with artists or influencers or 
whatever it is podcast, I don't 

1322
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,840
know, but watch his space. 
Because I like it. 

1323
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,760
What he's done with Ark is, is 
being, you know, huge. 

1324
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,040
And yeah, he's on his way 
tonight. 

1325
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,080
They're. 
Very nice. 

1326
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,280
OK, very nice. 
You want to hit some of these 

1327
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,080
listing questions before we 
finish things up. 

1328
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,640
How are we going? 
Yeah, we've got time probably 

1329
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,600
for one or two. 
Hey, say Brett, this came in on 

1330
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,960
our podcast. 
Anyone always leave, feel free 

1331
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:59,880
to leave questions or comments 
on our Spotify comments as well.

1332
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,240
We'll always look there. 
So he says hi guys, love and the

1333
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,080
pod wanted to get your opinion. 
Living in Sydney in the running 

1334
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,240
club boom is ever present here 
Great that everyone is 

1335
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,480
exercising but for a long time 
runner the lack of etiquette 

1336
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,760
does my head in. 
Wondering your thoughts, Liam 

1337
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,320
and Courtney, if you were 
running on the if you were 

1338
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,760
running on the left side of the 
path and a run club is coming 

1339
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,520
towards you the other way four 
or five abreast, yelling out 

1340
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,240
let's. 
Go. 

1341
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:31,640
Whilst filming selfies, is it OK
to proceed like a Gordon Telus 

1342
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:33,520
and run straight through the 
pack? 

1343
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:40,000
Yes, yes, yeah, it's a. 
Little bit like the Hedges Ave 

1344
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,240
biker this year, but runner 
runner on runner. 

1345
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,120
No, look like don't there's 
what's the win, right? 

1346
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,880
Well, there's it might feel good
in the moment. 

1347
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,080
You probably get pretty sweaty 
because most of them have got 

1348
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,200
their. 
Shirts What's the win of. 

1349
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,880
It's gonna make you feel good 
for a moment, but ultimately the

1350
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:04,960
outcome is five of them turn 
around and suddenly you've got 

1351
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,160
an awkward, aggressive 
confrontation that you have to 

1352
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:12,040
deal with. 
Or alternatively, I don't know 

1353
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,960
what happens, You might knock 
him over and you might actually 

1354
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:18,600
hurt him again. 
Momentary win for potentially 

1355
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:24,800
longer term drama. 
The just don't run bloody fibre 

1356
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,120
breasts. 
If you're a run club and you're 

1357
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,920
particularly if you're running 
in Sydney, and I've run in 

1358
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,440
Sydney for years, the footpaths 
aren't built for you to run on 

1359
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,560
mass like that. 
If you're not running at a time 

1360
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,800
where you can run around some 
tracks or some roads with space,

1361
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:43,040
find a better time to run. 
Don't be that group that blocks 

1362
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,200
an entire run path or footpath 
or whatever it is. 

1363
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,240
Just don't be that group. 
So Brett, I know it's 

1364
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:52,640
frustrating mate, and I know you
want to drop the shoulder for 

1365
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,800
the moment of satisfaction it 
might give you. 

1366
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:56,800
It's probably not going to be 
worth it. 

1367
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:58,320
You know what I took out of 
this? 

1368
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,200
What? 
It's interesting as a he's in 

1369
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,640
Sydney, but he's he's Gordon 
Tallis. 

1370
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,000
Oh, he's a rugby league fan. 
Yeah, but he must be a 

1371
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,160
Queenslander. 
He knows the boy. 

1372
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,760
He must be a. 
Queenslander. 

1373
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,600
Anyone can appreciate the beauty
of Gordon Tallis. 

1374
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,640
I just, I'd like when we've 
talked about etiquette on the 

1375
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,080
pass, forget run clubs, I just 
think everyone should be just 

1376
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:22,399
aware to go left and right. 
Yeah, this is my left. 

1377
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:26,000
Stay on the left. 
If people are just common sense,

1378
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:26,960
right? 
Hey. 

1379
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:31,680
Everyone's got a youth path. 
Hey, look, if, if, if only 

1380
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,319
common sense was so easy to 
find. 

1381
01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:35,359
If only common sense was so 
common, Courtney. 

1382
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:37,560
And probably we should be called
not so common sense. 

1383
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,160
Not to find. 
I think that's about enough 

1384
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:44,000
today, Liam, so. 
Hey so this is this is our last 

1385
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,640
EP before we are Tassie bound. 
Yes. 

1386
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,760
So we will then. 
Yeah, the next step after this 

1387
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,279
one, you hear, will literally 
be. 

1388
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:56,439
You will, hopefully both of us, 
but we'll be live running it up 

1389
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,240
the mountain and Tassie. 
This is exciting. 

1390
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,800
This is big stuff. 
You're gonna be, I'm breathing 

1391
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,120
heavy, but you're gonna be 
looking good while you do it, 

1392
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,160
Liam. 
Yeah, I'm. 

1393
01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:08,880
I'm so excited. 
This is gonna be a lot of fun. 

1394
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,160
Yeah, and thanks for everyone to
continue tuning in. 

1395
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,560
It's growing week to week. 
And yeah, leave comments, give 

1396
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:16,000
us a lie. 
We. 

1397
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,040
Got we got some exciting stuff 
that's happening. 

1398
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,640
The best thing you can do for us
if you're enjoying the journey 

1399
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,920
is to leave comments and and 
share the love. 

1400
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,720
Word of mouth is what's helping 
grow this in an amazing way at 

1401
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,359
the moment. 
We've got some stuff planned 

1402
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:32,920
that we are continuing to do and
hopefully we can share that with

1403
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,520
you very soon. 
But yeah, keep sharing the love,

1404
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,359
keep commenting, and we'll see 
you next week. 

1405
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:37,120
Enjoy, you're running.