1 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,360 And welcome to the episode of Husbands Watching Housewives. 2 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,480 I'm Scott. And I am Jeff. 3 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,880 And we just watched the episode of The Real Housewives of Salt 4 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,200 Lake City. We sure did, yes. 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,680 Also, you can't see him. This is Momo. 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,360 He's down. There Yeah, we have our cat down 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,800 there. He's starting to like us. 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,120 He. Started it only took a month. 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,800 Hanging out with us on the couch, following us up for the 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,480 podcast, scratching the crap out of us. 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,960 Oh wait, that's just what cats do. 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,280 Scratching the furniture. Cats. 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,880 Anyway, well, thank you for joining us. 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,640 Thank you for finding us. If you're just finding us now, 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,120 we are two husbands married to each other. 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,840 We watch the Housewives shows. We don't. 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,160 Well, we might start watching the Below Deck because of the 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,480 Salt Lake crossover, but that'll be yes, that's it. 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,280 Yes, yes. So. 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,960 They get you. But get you it's a gateway 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,440 drive. Exactly, they thought it would 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,200 be Summer House, but no Below Deck Down Under. 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,080 But yes, thanks for joining us. Find us on the social media, 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,640 husbands watching housewives husbands watching on TikTok and 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,400 you know, hopefully over this week, coming week with Bravo Con 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,920 everything, we'll be there. We're not going to be breaking 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,400 any news or anything while we're there. 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,320 No, no, but we're going to be posting some dorky content, I'm 29 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:30,360 sure, and just some overall geeking out over the entire 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,280 process. So. 31 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,960 Yes, it's a long process and I it's isn't, it's funny. 32 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:37,440 It's like it's happening in a few days, but it hasn't like 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,000 really sunk in until you actually get to Vegas. 34 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,440 Yeah, safely on time. What I'm, what I'm yeah. 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,480 With the airport thing, What I'm interested in seeing is like you 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,320 and I have been to Vegas before. I'm, it seems like a lot of the 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,680 people we're seeing in the these Bravocon groups on Facebook are 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,480 like, either this is the one chance they've been away from 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,320 their kids in like 20 years and they're like, yes, we're going 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,840 to party, or they just haven't been on a vacation forever or 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,240 whatever. It just seemed like there'd be a 42 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,000 lot of people living, whooping it up if you please. 43 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,720 I think it's both A&B. Yeah, yeah. 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,240 Whereas I've been to Vegas, you know, more times than I can 45 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,680 count, and I'm just including this year. 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,680 Yeah. And I was like, I don't really 47 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,880 need to go back. Three nights is a lot. 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,880 Three nights, it is a lot. It's a lot of a lot, but yeah, 49 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:21,920 yeah, we're gonna pace ourselves. 50 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:24,800 We're gonna hydrate, you know, we're gonna just. 51 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,000 Yeah, hopefully meet some wonderful people out there and, 52 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,400 you know, make friends and, you know, hopefully run into some of 53 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,640 you. Maybe if you're there, I feel 54 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:36,840 like we should make a secret code that could yell out at us 55 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,600 so we know that they've actually watched the show. 56 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,720 But. Just husbands. 57 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,920 Yeah, well, it's going to be on the back of one of our shirts, 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,920 but I digress. QR code. 59 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,560 Why are you suddenly Parker Posey? 60 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,720 Lorazepam Husband. 'S watching housewives so 61 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,560 anyway, Salt Lake City. This is a lot. 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,480 This is a very intense episode and you know a lot of, she said, 63 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,280 she said. And it's just so ridiculous on 64 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:13,640 every end of every spectrum. Like we should try and go in 65 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:17,760 chronological order with this one because it starts out with 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,600 or. With like, you know, peace and 67 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,000 and and. Yeah, comparatively. 68 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,080 Basically, they're like recovering from the dinner where 69 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,960 Brittany exposed the tick tock that said Seth had a mistress, 70 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,560 yadda yadda yadda. It was the breakfast going away 71 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,400 breakfast, right where they thought it would be a really 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,880 good idea to have Meredith sit next to Brittany. 73 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,840 Like I was just like, girl, don't sit down. 74 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,600 Someone needed to get up here and also at the end of this 75 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,280 episode and switch seats with Brittany, right? 76 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,960 Why are you putting people next to people who don't like each 77 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,960 other? Like, it's just common sense. 78 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,920 You just don't do that. Did they already take care of 79 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,200 the Unicorn by this point though? 80 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,640 I think yeah, skipped. Over that, yeah. 81 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,200 How can we forget? Jared Unicorn that got tossed 82 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,520 overboard. I. 83 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,840 Am salvaged by APA. Yeah, I was going to say like, I 84 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,880 couldn't. It had to have been salvage. 85 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,520 There's no way they would have been that mischievous about it 86 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,240 without. Like there's so easy for them to 87 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,920 have had backlash from this. So like, just go ahead and 88 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,120 litter in the ocean. Oh, for sure. 89 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:19,880 I think as soon as they saw they're like, no, no, no, we 90 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,160 can't do that like someone. Or they were like, we'll only do 91 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,760 it if we can be guaranteed, you know, You know, I think that's 92 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,640 what it was, right? They probably arranged it with 93 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,280 Daisy. So if we pretend to throw this 94 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:32,640 overboard. No, it went overboard. 95 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,320 But someone who quickly screwed it up, that didn't sink right? 96 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,800 Like that wasn't, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 97 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,280 So yeah, so then yes, then there was dinner or breakfast. 98 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:46,680 So Brittany should have just said, I'm sorry, I shouldn't 99 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,520 have brought it up and like just ended it. 100 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,640 But the whole thing, like I was coming from a good, like 101 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,200 basically she was saying I was coming from a good place or 102 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,880 something to that effect. Or like, I, you know, wasn't 103 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,400 trying to hurt you. And then she's like talking 104 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,040 about the double standards. Yes, they're double standards in 105 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,600 this group. This is not the time to bring 106 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,400 them up. Like we all everyone rips each 107 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,080 other's heads off. You're not being well, You are 108 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,880 being singled out. But you know, it's just like, 109 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,760 like, I'm sorry, let's move on. It's our last day. 110 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,680 We have to get on a plane together like that. 111 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,240 It. Meredith had already moved on by 112 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,640 pivoting to Whitney and saying trying the age-old How come you 113 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,680 didn't defend me better? Bullshit. 114 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,680 I wanted Whitney was like, I told her. 115 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,000 You're either bring it up to Marinath, I bring it up to 116 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,160 Meredith, or we don't talk about it. 117 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,240 That was really, I think some quick thing and. 118 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,120 Whitney chose violence. Yeah, Whitney's like, not today, 119 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,160 ma'am. I'm not going down with you. 120 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,160 But I think that's really quick of Whitney to just be like, no, 121 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,000 no, I was giving her the opportunity to be a good friend. 122 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,280 Like, I wonder how many times she's had to use that or fall 123 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:53,400 back on that. It's like, Oh no, I was going to 124 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,280 say something, but. Well, as soon as she said as 125 00:05:56,280 --> 00:05:59,760 soon as she saw the TikTok, she probably thought I'm on camera. 126 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:03,520 I'm watching this TikTok. I cannot Co sign this. 127 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,800 I need to get a way out. Like they didn't show on camera 128 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,360 with me giving her these options and to try to be a good friend 129 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,840 and for marriage to say like that's not being a good friend. 130 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:15,040 You didn't tell me Whitney's not your friend. 131 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:18,360 You don't like her. She's like you like stop the 132 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,400 insanity. It's just no. 133 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,040 And then, yeah, it was a little middle school, like turning her 134 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,320 back on Brittany and, like, flipping her hair on her. 135 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,080 And like when Brittany did it, backed her. 136 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,520 Like, don't you touch me. I forgot about the hair flipping 137 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,480 it. Was so and look and like 138 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,960 Meredith's, unlike Heather's, Meredith's, we was on points 139 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,320 this entire trip. It was some good weave, but you 140 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,640 didn't need to flick it in, you know, Brittany's face. 141 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:47,560 Oh. God, yeah. 142 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,760 It was just, it was very middle school, the whole thing. 143 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,920 Yeah, I feel like we're missing some other details from this 144 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,600 first part of the show. Well, they were. 145 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,000 Well, well. Before they zoom back home. 146 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:04,160 Well, Bronwyn's saying to Mary, you're a woman of God, you can 147 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,280 solve this, surely, woman of God. 148 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:09,040 And they're like, Nope, not today's St. 149 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,360 Keep me out of this. My conversation. 150 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,480 So then they basically they pack up, right? 151 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Brittany wonders where her Unicorn is. 152 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,720 She gets it back on the dock. She confronts Meredith about it. 153 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,400 I thought, ain't, ain't it a SMAP? 154 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:27,640 Sorry. That was more like a shame. 155 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,240 Well, it was it was a good Meredith and Brooks. 156 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,000 Too much Xanax. Yeah, Yeah. 157 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:38,680 Voice allegedly. So then, yeah, the fact that 158 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,480 Brown was like, no, I thought it'd be cute and did it. 159 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,600 I'm glad. I'm glad that she right like 160 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,440 because she started it like right she was like, here's take 161 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,920 the Unicorn and throw it overboard. 162 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,040 So she pretty much was. You know, with Whitney in the 163 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,080 background, Like, why would you think that was funny? 164 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,720 Because it's funny. Like if she it's funny. 165 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,400 Like but it is. It is her property. 166 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,880 Well, whatever. But like she totally it'd. 167 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,160 Be like. No way she brought that like 168 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,680 seriously onto the boat without expecting it to be a focal point 169 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,480 of some sort of storyline or some sort of conversation, of 170 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,000 course. So she got her wish. 171 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,640 True. She's not just travelling with 172 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,240 that because she like, wants to snuggle with it at night, you 173 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,400 know? I think she we. 174 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,560 Would now we'll never know because Bronwyn didn't sleep in 175 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,840 the room with her. I wonder if it still worked 176 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,160 after like being tossed in the water. 177 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,800 That's why someone. Said put it in rice. 178 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,880 Jason said it's. Pretty funny. 179 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,799 That looks good. So then, yeah, then they get to 180 00:08:38,799 --> 00:08:41,880 the airport. And then I love the broad ones. 181 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,760 I'm not going back with them. Different flights, bye bye. 182 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,800 Yeah, I wonder if she regrets that, though. 183 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,560 I wonder if she's like oh man. I do, you know, it's interesting 184 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:57,000 what she said, how there is no footage of this being bystander 185 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,080 footage, not because the cameras weren't allowed on the plane, 186 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,160 right. And these women don't record 187 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,280 each other. So. 188 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,800 Right. And I have to wonder though, 189 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,360 like, was production on the plane? 190 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,200 Like, could this I guess you can't use your phone to like, 191 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,360 reach out to production because I'm sure they are very, very 192 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,040 pissed. All happened off camera. 193 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,760 This is a huge thing that happened off camera. 194 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,040 Yeah. Like it's just, it's because 195 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,480 it's he and she said, she said right. 196 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,560 And we can't definitively say she's in the wrong. 197 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:29,160 She's in the wrong you. Know I would see and I was 198 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,720 thinking like how come no one at least ripped out their cell 199 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,920 phone It's because they have this whole we don't film each 200 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,200 other packed. Right, but why couldn't why 201 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,320 didn't like, no, I know they're in first class, but like, if the 202 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,640 if Meredith was supposedly being so loud that the entire plane 203 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,400 could hear her, which Mary should have pointed out like you 204 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,360 were, I could have been across the plane. 205 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:50,960 I wasn't. But if I was, I probably would 206 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,680 have heard you because you're so loud and causing causing such a 207 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:56,880 scene. So I can't believe that no one 208 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,560 was that classy. They didn't whip out their 209 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:01,680 camera in this day and age. Maybe first clear. 210 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,360 Maybe there's a pact amongst people in first class that they 211 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,920 don't without their phone. I mean, yeah, I guess I would 212 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,000 have been too shocked. I'm not a person who whips out 213 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,960 my phone. I think I would have been too 214 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,200 shocked it was happening. So that's The thing is I need to 215 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,720 know if someone was sitting next to Brittany. 216 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,640 And my guess is no. And I also need to know if 217 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,560 someone's sitting next to Angie because whoever that was, if 218 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:22,920 there was someone there sat there the whole time. 219 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,480 Well, and then maybe they didn't know that there were sitting 220 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,240 next to housewives, but wouldn't they without cameras and stuff? 221 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,400 Like if you didn't know, it's just. 222 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,040 A bunch of women on a girls trip. 223 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,800 Yeah. So I was trying to think, yeah, 224 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,120 so that would be one reason why you would record them, because 225 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,360 they're just normal people if you didn't know who they were. 226 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,720 Well, but even normal people, people record stuff all the time 227 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,240 put on TikTok. I know. 228 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,560 So, but I I wouldn't necessarily like if someone. 229 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:48,360 I would. I would just watch it. 230 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,640 I would watch it happen and I would be talking to you because 231 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,560 of course you'd be together. Like what is happening? 232 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:57,520 I would at least be recording like video, like just to have 233 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,280 the audio of it. Like if it was still really 234 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,000 loud, I might just have my phone like in my lap recording it so I 235 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,320 could like listen back to it later and be like, was that what 236 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,000 they really? And then we're Katie and Janella 237 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,560 sitting. Yeah, it's a slippery slow. 238 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:10,960 It is. Such a slippery slow. 239 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,520 It really is, but they're not our cast members. 240 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,560 Here's the thing. So basically the gist of it 241 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:20,120 because when Heather meets with with Brittany and to recount I'm 242 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,160 not like 1 of this her words, her trauma, they go through the 243 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,440 whole thing of so this is a story. 244 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:29,320 Brittany was in front of Lisa and Meredith. 245 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,880 Lisa and Meredith were talking loudly about Brittany but also 246 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,160 yelling at Brittany. Sure the tick tock. 247 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,200 Sure the tick tock. As if they couldn't just search 248 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,320 Seth Marks mistress on TikTok. Like why? 249 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:43,800 It's not that she had this TikTok. 250 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,640 It's TikTok, it's a public thing. 251 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,520 Maybe Meredith was searching and she couldn't find it and she's 252 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:49,480 like, I wouldn't know what you're talking. 253 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,560 I need the. Keywords. 254 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:52,320 I need the hashtag. Yeah. 255 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,760 And. And so Lisa's yelling at 256 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,040 Brittany, show it to her just to kind of diffuse the situation, 257 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,880 but also I think also just to be Lisa because also she supposedly 258 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,800 supposedly was saying you deserve this. 259 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,160 Like, you know, you, you effed up, you effed up, right? 260 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:09,720 And which? I 100% believe Lisa's doing. 261 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,960 So again, I don't know how long this trip was for sure me too. 262 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,560 But they're like shaking her, her seat. 263 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:20,160 They're like like wrecking havoc on this woman. 264 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,600 And but yet no one intervened like the flight attendant, 265 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,600 according to Brittany, was asking, are you OK? 266 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,000 Do you need anything? But no one said, ma'am, you need 267 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,600 to stop. You're causing a disruption. 268 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,680 I don't think it was probably not horrible or I also don't 269 00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:38,560 know what time of day it was and what time of night. 270 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:41,360 What time of day it was like how long of a flight hacks. 271 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,240 The flight was. Hacks the flight was, was there 272 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,480 anyone next to Brittany, right? I mean, surely there was no no 273 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,480 one, no one next to Brittany because they would have like 274 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,160 moved. Right, right, right. 275 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,160 You know. You're probably right. 276 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,440 It probably wasn't meant to be wrong one. 277 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,680 That's my guess. But it's just. 278 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:57,920 There is an. Element I. 279 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,240 Don't there is an element that does not add up to it? 280 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:05,720 Yes, in the fact that like this. I mean, that's something doesn't 281 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,120 add up because we I don't. We're not seeing it. 282 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,600 We're not seeing it and I'm trying not to be stuttery about 283 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,320 this, but like, it's so easy for it could be so easy for them to 284 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,520 manufacture a story, but why would they? 285 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,200 I don't think so. I don't think what makes me not 286 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,200 think this is because in certain aspects, yes, but I don't think 287 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,240 here Mary not to skip to the end would participate in bullshit 288 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,080 like this. So if Mary's saying it happened, 289 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,320 like just straight up like it happened, right? 290 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,440 Like I think it happened. But they're all. 291 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,840 I know that they but it's all students like everyone heard 292 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,760 different things. But that's what weirds me out is 293 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,240 that they're all falling back on this. 294 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,080 Like we saw it with our own eyes, we heard it with our own 295 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,120 ears. And like, it's kind of the same 296 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,040 story, but at the same time, when you're telling the truth, 297 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,560 the story will always be the same. 298 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:56,200 Right. So I feel like, yes, we didn't 299 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,000 get Angie's point of view, but everybody else was like, this is 300 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,040 what she. Used to be. 301 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,240 Because she used to be busy talking about Greek. 302 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,200 We forgot about that part. Greece is the word. 303 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,520 Greece is the word. Respect your Greek heritage and 304 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,800 Papa and and and all that. Should we? 305 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,760 Don't you want to ride for grease? 306 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,720 Because I ride for grease. Do you see the sweater? 307 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,720 I ride for grease all the time. I thought that was very, very 308 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,160 brave of her daughter and also very teenagery of her daughter 309 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,520 just to be all like, I don't like grease. 310 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,480 Like why would I like grease and just be like sorry I identified 311 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,360 more with dad's side of the family because they all ride 312 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,560 horses like I do. That was so weird. 313 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,360 The horse that costs as much as a Porsche. 314 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,200 A horse is a Porsche, of course. Of course. 315 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,520 Porsche, of course. I, yeah, completely forgot about 316 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:50,520 that. I feel like we're forgetting 317 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,400 other things that happened. Oh, well, no. 318 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,880 Dear God. No, we're gonna get to that. 319 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,120 We're gonna get to that. I'm talking. 320 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,920 We're gonna get to that, OK? We're gonna keep on this dress. 321 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,120 Sorry I just thought I think I blocked it out of my mind 322 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,360 because I didn't know what I was watching. 323 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,400 So. So back Meredith, though. 324 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:12,320 Yeah. So I just obviously Whitney and 325 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,800 Heather and Brittany and Mayor like this happened, right? 326 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,400 For Meredith and Lisa to be like, that's not how it 327 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,320 happened. And just to downplay this, it 328 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,200 just, it reeks to me of gaslighting. 329 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,760 Yeah. I mean, I, I think what I think 330 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,160 is more likely the case is that Lisa is downplaying her 331 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,640 involvement for sure, for sure. And I think that Meredith 332 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,440 doesn't want to admit that things were out of control and 333 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,480 she's going to go ahead and continue this whole like, that's 334 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,160 not how it happened. It wasn't that long. 335 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,160 You were sleeping. And she didn't rely on her 336 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,560 typical, you know, lawyer ease. Oh sure, for sure. 337 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,440 It's like I was just, she kept saying I was just venting to a 338 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,760 friend. I was venting to a friend and if 339 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,360 she ever heard me I'm that's too bad. 340 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,080 But I like how she walked in with like I watched 2 movies and 341 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,720 slept for an hour so like. Yeah, she was prepared with 342 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,120 that. She had a timeline like so that 343 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,880 couldn't possibly be what happened. 344 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,360 She's going to like, she's going to be the one next, like bring 345 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,440 up some like, you know, bulletin boards and shit. 346 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,040 Like from this time to this time for 15 minutes. 347 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,840 I I vented to a friend and I'm sorry that Brittany heard it, 348 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,360 but I was just venting to a friend. 349 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,000 I thought she had her headphones when? 350 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,520 I got up to the bathroom. I might have leaned on her chair 351 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,120 a little bit, but that's all I was inventing to a friend. 352 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,360 Meanwhile, every other chick is like, you were unhinged. 353 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:36,000 And so I just, I can't believe it's a mix of the two, but I 354 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,360 don't know. I don't know, like who it heard 355 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,880 everything. Like if Whitney heard the entire 356 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,360 thing, Mary might have been sleeping. 357 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:43,760 I would. How long did this go? 358 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,560 I would feel better about the authenticity of of Heather and 359 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,240 everyone's claims if they had started filming something when 360 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,760 they got off the plane. But the fact that it was all set 361 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,320 up with this whole like, you know, flash forward, you know, 362 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,760 the the clouds parting and then Brittany walking in like that 363 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,240 was the most traumatic thing that ever happened to me. 364 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,040 I'm not OK, I haven't eaten. I haven't slept and it's like, 365 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:09,800 really, I mean. She wasn't any makeup. 366 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,000 I mean, I think a lot of that was done to make her look a lot 367 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,240 more the victim that I think maybe she was. 368 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,960 Well, it's Heather. Said to Lisa she was the victim. 369 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,480 Yes. And that's why I'm having 370 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:26,560 difficulty like saying because yeah, it's, you know, I agree 371 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,320 that like she was feeling, you know, feeling. 372 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,880 I could see myself feeling belittled and feeling, you know, 373 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,280 ganged up on it that. Situation by these two very 374 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:38,280 strong right willed. Women and you have nowhere to 375 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,600 go. You're on a plane, you're just 376 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,520 going to have to take it. And they're, you know, not, 377 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,960 they're kind of shutting you out if, you know, you don't want to 378 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,840 acknowledge all. They can't work with TikTok. 379 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,320 But but is that the worst you've? 380 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,680 I mean, if that's the worst you've been. 381 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,840 Through like if it happened to me and I'm like, you know, I 382 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,240 don't want to cause a scene. I don't want to like fight back. 383 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,120 I don't want to yell at somebody when they're yelling at me. 384 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:00,200 I can't. Run a plane. 385 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,240 Right, it's a very long trip and you just want to get off the 386 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,360 plane. That's why she should have like, 387 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:07,520 said Angie. For the love of gods, which 388 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,160 seats with me, you know you're the eye laughs. 389 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,760 And she must have been on some powerful tranquilizers. 390 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,160 She just put those giant sunglasses on like. 391 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,200 Goodnight, pillar of the community outs. 3 Ambience. 392 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,880 She's like peace out. That's why she's like, I have no 393 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,760 recollection. God. 394 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,800 So yeah, I don't know, it's just really, it feels a little dark. 395 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,760 It does. Yeah. 396 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,520 It does. The other thing too, as Meredith 397 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:43,560 pointed out many a time, or it was twice, where if she had 398 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,240 really been acting this way so unhinged, where is the Air 399 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,880 Marshall when she but I. Mean you can get away with a lot 400 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,200 it just you know. Yeah, that's she. 401 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,760 It's not like she's threatening violence. 402 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,200 It's not like she was, you know? She wasn't attacking her. 403 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,360 She wasn't right. I don't I mean, they didn't say 404 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:00,000 there was hair pulling. I I don't know right, right. 405 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,800 Maybe just. Her can Can we talk about 406 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,720 Heather and Lisa in their conversation? 407 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,880 That like started an hour later than it should have. 408 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,840 Yeah, so I mean, do we all love a clock countdown? 409 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,160 I knew as soon as that clock popped up. 410 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:16,560 Oh shit, is she waiting for? And then like an hour plus 411 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,880 later, Yeah, this is a Barlow with that tacky ash Chanel 412 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,760 necklace with her in the bag too. 413 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,400 I'm like. I did not notice. 414 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,800 Who are you that looks so fake. Oh, we forgot about her driving 415 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,680 around with John eating Wendy's. I think you. 416 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,360 Didn't think it was Wendy's. At first I thought because the 417 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:33,440 bag. You'd think if you were a 418 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,560 spokesperson for Wendy's, you'd have that bag facing every 419 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,400 camera you possibly could. She was too hungry to think. 420 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,520 She had that bag prestige herself and I thought the BBQ 421 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,760 sauce was a McDonald's BBQ. I wouldn't eat in that car. 422 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,080 It's a very nice car for her to be like open BBQ sauce. 423 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,240 I was. That's how much. 424 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,680 That's how rich she is. She can eat inside a car for 425 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,000 $65,000. I'm sure Don Barlow is so effing 426 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,280 sick of Wendy's and like it's sticking up his car. 427 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,120 I mean, I won't lie, I kind of was like, I can go for some 428 00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:04,040 Wendy's. Oh, for sure. 429 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,640 I was like, those chicken Nuggets look pretty. 430 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:06,200 Damn. Good. 431 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,600 Like I'd eat some fries. I actually thought of getting up 432 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,120 and making some of the chicken we have in the freezer, but I 433 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:13,000 was like. That's too much. 434 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:13,920 It's. Too close to bed. 435 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,680 Yeah, exactly. And we had a really good dinner, 436 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,040 so I could've used more. I could've used more, yeah, like 437 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,720 get more of a side, but like, what else would the side be? 438 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,400 We made some. We made so healthy. 439 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,920 We actually kind of you. Know we should get me a lime to 440 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,600 halas for us. Hello. 441 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,720 We've been doing this since 2019. 442 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,200 We had these zucchini fritter fritters. 443 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,960 Yeah, that we'd never done before. 444 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:40,280 It was basically like zucchini like. 445 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,440 Grated zucchini mixed with. Mozzarella cheese and then 446 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,280 spices. You put some flour in an egg. 447 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,200 Go in an egg? Yeah, fry it on each side. 448 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,920 Put it into like little patties and like we made six of them and 449 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,320 it was like what is this? It was really good. 450 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,720 And a delightful salad to do with it. 451 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,200 But it was not enough, like I could have used probably two 452 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,840 more fritters. Oh for sure, I wanted more. 453 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,440 It was like a healthy mozzarella stuff. 454 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,800 Yeah. And that's where it kind of felt 455 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,840 like an appetizer at that point. So good. 456 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,240 You should have gotten some chicken. 457 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:09,600 Yeah. Or maybe some bread. 458 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,200 Bread goes with salad. Right. 459 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,040 I should have gotten some. I should have gotten some that 460 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,800 bread when we went to Costco. Damn it, you saw bread at Costco 461 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,400 that you liked? I did. 462 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,640 I pointed it out like this. Like Italian bread. 463 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,520 Oh, I oh, I kind of remember that. 464 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:24,880 Yeah, yeah. But we were just kind of like, 465 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,480 we don't need these things. We. 466 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,120 Yeah, we weren't. We've already been to the store 467 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:30,280 and we'd just eaten lunch so. Right, right. 468 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,040 We weren't. Yeah, Yeah. 469 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,680 Plus, we weren't like hungry hungry and we're not. 470 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,800 Hungry, hungry hippos. Yeah. 471 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,360 So that whole that. That whole Lisa Heather thing 472 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,280 again, Heather was why I bring it up as Heather was bringing 473 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,560 that whole attacked again like she did on the boat. 474 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,800 I'm trying to be have a conversation with you as a 475 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,960 friend and like tell you what I heard and what I know is going 476 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,360 on. And it was almost like, girl, 477 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:55,160 you're at 100% coming at Lisa and you know it, but you're 478 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,360 couching it in this whole, well, I'm trying to be a friend and 479 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:00,320 let you know what's going on. Well, it was like it. 480 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,000 Like when Heather met with Brittany and a second like 481 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,360 Brittany said, I feel so let down by Lisa. 482 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,480 I was like no, no, no, no, no. No. 483 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,280 Oh yeah. To the clear path. 484 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,840 Meredith wronged you. If Lisa, you know, cosigned, 485 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,880 that's not great. But Meredith was leading the 486 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,760 charge and Lisa was just like, I don't want her to turn on me. 487 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,840 She's already accused me of not having her back. 488 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,480 No, I accused her of not having right. 489 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,840 But I'm gonna like, just go along with this. 490 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,280 And, you know, with that, if that includes bullying Brittany, 491 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,400 so be it. But you just got to stay clear 492 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,600 of like, Meredith wasn't hinged. Meredith was shaking my cheer 493 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,640 like you know. But see, it's also that thing 494 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,280 with Heather and Brittany where, you know, I have your back 100%. 495 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,440 That felt kind of rehearsed to me. 496 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:49,800 And it felt really over the top. Like definitely more than I 497 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,360 think than this situation calls for. 498 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:55,480 Yes, this whole, you know, that's unacceptable. 499 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,200 And like I said. And I think you're right. 500 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,600 I'm sorry, if it was truly unacceptable, you would have 501 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,320 stopped them on the plane right when it was happening. 502 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,640 And Heather says she did that. And then they came. 503 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,160 She broke up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 504 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,240 So. But The thing is like, you just 505 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,560 kind of, you can't. There's certain things you yes, 506 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,640 you can for sure blame Lisa for and she's 100% wrong, IE gout 507 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,440 Dick. But in this instance you just 508 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,760 gotta it's gotta stick with Meredith. 509 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,560 So bring Lisa into it makes it really a muddy and it makes it 510 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,920 seem like you cannot stop it talking about Lisa and have like 511 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,720 some sort of like takedown season in mind for her. 512 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,000 And it's like, don't bring Lisa into this. 513 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,280 Like it's just that's not. Just stay on Meredith. 514 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,480 Yes, keep it clean with Meredith. 515 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,240 Can understand that. Yeah, so I understand why Lisa 516 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,680 was like, don't do that. Was she possibly lying about 517 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,240 what exactly happened? Possibly. 518 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,880 Probably 100%, but like, it's just don't. 519 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,520 Yeah, she took the wrong tract. Yeah, I think she could have 520 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,760 handled that definitely better. Yeah. 521 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,720 So then, does that leave us now with Bronwyn and Whitney's 522 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,800 conversation? Yes, we can pivot to that. 523 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,200 Do we have to pivot to that? What would you? 524 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,760 What did you think? What did I take away from that? 525 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,960 Well, let's outline it. Please. 526 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:13,680 So supposedly, according to Twitter, Todd was caught looking 527 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,840 at women in lingerie on his flight, right? 528 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,480 And Ronald confronted about him, confronted him about it, and she 529 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,800 believes it totally happened. He denied and said it's just 530 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,920 your, your friend stirring up gossip, whatever, planning 531 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,840 stories. And she said, no, I think you 532 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,160 should sleep at a hotel and go on your business trip because, 533 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,040 you know, we're not. Yeah, we need some space. 534 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,120 But she believed it happened, very quick to believe it 535 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:39,760 happened. So I believe that she believes 536 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,320 it happened. Yeah. 537 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,640 So she meets with Whitney to tell her this and it goes into a 538 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,880 direction I didn't see it. No one saw it going. 539 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,560 So First off, I was a little confused. 540 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,160 Just it was it was. I'm not used to seeing a 541 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,760 housewife just walk in and be like, oh, this horrible thing is 542 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,360 happening. And I mean, it seems definitely 543 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:03,840 reeks if I'm trying to get ahead of it because also this is 544 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,960 another one of those things we kind of keep our ears out and 545 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,440 see different stuff in social media. 546 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,200 Not everything, not everything, but I feel like we would have 547 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,400 heard about this and we didn't, you know what I mean? 548 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,560 The same. Well, we don't go looking. 549 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,960 It was. We don't also follow all about 550 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,000 the truth. And we don't follow a lot of the 551 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,800 more yeah yeah content. That's true. 552 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,200 You know it was OK. Yeah. 553 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:31,760 But either way, it just was seemed really startling for just 554 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,720 to come in and say, yeah, so people, the media is saying my 555 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,520 husband's cheating on me and I think maybe he's kind of doing 556 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,920 something adjacent to that. And then suddenly it turns into 557 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,600 this, well, is it OK if he does that then? 558 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,760 Like, isn't that how it went? Because I think. 559 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,240 She was also startled. Leaning in too. 560 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,120 Yeah, and at one point she's like cutting her salad or 561 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,960 whatever she's eating and she's just like not breaking eye 562 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,080 contact with Bronwyn at all. The. 563 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,280 Oysters. The oysters, she's scraping at 564 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,200 the oysters like, uh huh, tell me more. 565 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,080 And then it was just, I also just didn't understand because 566 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,760 they were both basically in my mind saying we allow each other 567 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,240 to screw around on one another, but we're not open. 568 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,880 So we're not really doing that, is there? 569 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,560 Basically sounded to me that they're saying we do do this, 570 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:24,800 but we don't do that. That's what was confusing to me. 571 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,800 We're not open, but we also, we communicate and I tell him I'm 572 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,600 going to be smart. I'm going to get home safe. 573 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,480 So get home safe from what? What are you out there in the 574 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,880 streets doing? Yeah, yeah. 575 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,280 So, I mean, so I took away from it that Bronwyn and Todd are not 576 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,120 open, but I feel like she was saying, you know. 577 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,880 She would be open to be an. An arrangement, agree. 578 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,040 And I think that's where they're kind of, I think it's where 579 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,200 Whitney's also splitting hairs, I think or maybe it's relevant 580 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,360 when you're in this sort of relationship, but it sounds like 581 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,000 open just means you go off and you can do whatever the hell you 582 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,760 want and hook up with whoever you want in their minds anyway. 583 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,200 And this seems to be that they need to pre negotiate it. 584 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,400 Open could be a lot of things, right? 585 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,600 I think Whitney, Whitney said. You know, I have a lot of 586 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,680 friends who live different lifestyles and they have. 587 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,280 You know my swinger friends that everyone talked about the first 588 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,520 five seasons of the show. Right. 589 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,280 And I deny that we were swingers, but you know, or soft 590 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,400 swinging or whatever you might use the term. 591 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,240 So she has friends who have agreements. 592 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,520 She and Justin have talked about things. 593 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,600 They've both been really at bad places in their marriage and 594 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,480 thought about like, what else is out there. 595 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,000 I don't understand if they actually acted on that. 596 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,680 That wasn't clear. But then the whole she kept 597 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,640 stressing, like, we've been together for 15 years, married 598 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,880 15, together 17. You know there's an age 599 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,720 difference, right? So basically, she made it seem 600 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,600 like inevitably we're gonna want to want other things, but I do 601 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,000 not. They both agreed, both Brahmin 602 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,920 and she, they do not want to marry to other people. 603 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,120 They love their husbands. They they believe in this 604 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:09,680 marriage. They don't want to leave it, but 605 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,520 they might have eyes for other people, right. 606 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,000 And even Brahmin was saying like, you know, if Todd, I want 607 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,840 to evolve with Todd. So does that mean, you know, she 608 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,640 said, like I would want it to be like, oh, you saw my husband 609 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,320 talking to somebody. Yeah, I arranged that. 610 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,240 I I got I well. Yeah, yeah. 611 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,920 I think she'd want that power of, OK, you're going to sleep 612 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,520 with somebody. I get to choose. 613 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,400 Right, right. Or or you know, we I understand 614 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,680 like we have an I don't know. Right, right. 615 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,440 She, yeah, yeah, she wants me involved. 616 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,040 Some have participation in the thing and make it not like it's 617 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,040 a tuck to sort of like behind your back situation. 618 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,520 Or she's being done wrong, being cheated on. 619 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,920 And that it's something that needs to be whispered behind, 620 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,280 you know, like, yeah, if you said to me, is that happening, 621 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,600 I'd say, yeah, who cares? Right. 622 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,360 It's it's what works for us. Yeah. 623 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,680 Again, like I, I, I, yeah, yeah, I know all about that. 624 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,960 We have we talk about this. I yeah, I I. 625 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,640 I think. I don't. 626 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,680 I think once she found herself there, she might. 627 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,320 She'd be. I don't think that this is for 628 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,920 me, but that's my own judgement. Yeah. 629 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,920 But I think that's also part of like seeing what may work for 630 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,240 you and then realizing it doesn't and then course 631 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,480 correcting it. Just, it was very interesting 632 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:27,440 because it was a very honest conversation and it felt that 633 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,800 you don't like, it wasn't like bullshit, like, oh, you know, 634 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,520 I'm starting new business or I'm, you know, having feelings, 635 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,400 feelings of like inadequacy. It's like, let's talk about. 636 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,640 I'm not Greek enough. I'm not Greek enough. 637 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,760 You know, the fact that they're like, we are both married to 638 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,320 older men. We understand each other. 639 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,720 We're the same age as everyone in this group. 640 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,680 Let's get into it, girl. Yeah, that makes it. 641 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,560 It was like. I was not expecting it on 642 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,240 camera. I was not expecting Whitney to 643 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,360 just be. If she had a beer, she would 644 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,760 have handed it and said here, hold my beer. 645 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,840 Exactly, I need to give this my full attention. 646 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,800 She seemed almost gleeful to be talking about it, but it also. 647 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,800 It was real. And I think it also somewhat in 648 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,040 disbelief that it was going to come up on camera. 649 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,200 And so I'm a little worried. I was like, should Whitney be 650 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,400 saying all this on camera? Well. 651 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,040 She even said like, I'm not going to start remembers about 652 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,760 myself like we're not open, right? 653 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,080 We're not open. Like we just I think we just 654 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,600 talk about it. Maybe they've done a. 100% they 655 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,720 I mean. We've done stuff together with a 656 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,400 person. I'm sure they've done that. 657 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,280 I'm sure they've done everything. 658 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,800 I'm sure that they've cheated on each other. 659 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,080 Why? Actually, they get home safe. 660 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,120 Right. I think what it is is they know. 661 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:37,000 I think I, I've just never seen. This is just so weird. 662 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,960 I just don't think I've ever seen housewives kind of discuss 663 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,000 their marriages so openly like that. 664 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,520 That I was saying. It was so. 665 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,760 Odd. It's also because it's like 666 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,920 normally this is someone who's my Co worker that I wouldn't 667 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,480 have a conversation like this, like off camera, on camera. 668 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,960 I don't know if there's like a trust this person, but Ron was 669 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,920 like, you're the only person who's going to get this. 670 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:01,320 So but once so once I can kind of figure out why Whitney in 671 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,240 Brahman would would allow themselves to speak that openly 672 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,480 about something that could really be thrown back at them. 673 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,520 That confused me. And so that makes me think that 674 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,280 maybe some of this is not a setup, but it's something they 675 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,640 may be. I don't think like based on 676 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,840 Whitney's reaction, she did not I. 677 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,960 Know, yeah. I don't think it was a setup. 678 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,440 I think it was just it just happened, I think. 679 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,520 No, I think it was a setup. As you said, Bronwell was going 680 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,920 to get ahead of this. Oh, yeah, of course. 681 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,480 Someone brought up, I saw, I heard that someone saw your 682 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,960 husband looking at pictures of women on on his flight, right. 683 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,920 She was going to out herself or out the situation on camera and 684 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,840 control the narrative. I don't think she planned. 685 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,920 Whitney going. Yes. 686 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,240 And then, like feeding off of when, you know, it was, Yeah, it 687 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,280 was, I mean, very interesting. I got the very, My gut tells me 688 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,520 that reading between Whitney's lines is that they had some 689 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,000 rough patches in their marriage. They cheated on each other. 690 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,680 They've definitely slept with other people while they were 691 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,920 married. And I don't know any one thing 692 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,120 from another. But it just seems like she was 693 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,840 so quick to explain, like they've run through everything, 694 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,120 you know what I mean? And so it just seems very 695 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,440 interesting to me. And I'm good for them if they're 696 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,320 still together and they found a way to make things work. 697 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,600 And you know, they're, they seem somewhat, you know, they seem 698 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,400 very happy with, you know, we met them at an event, yes. 699 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,440 We'll see them a Bravo con yes, So it doesn't seem that they 700 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,920 want you get out of the marriage. 701 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,120 I also want to think that like you can't really consider 702 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,800 compare them to Bravo and Todd because they seem like they 703 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,920 don't necessarily always like one another, right? 704 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,000 More so him, not her. Whereas I feel like there's a 705 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:44,560 lot of love and like for what between between the Whitney and 706 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,360 Justin. Yeah, I think what I'm finding 707 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,760 more interesting in my own head is that because, you know, we 708 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,400 don't hang out with people who are just openly. 709 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,640 Oh yeah, my wife and I sleep with other people. 710 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,800 Right, like. We don't have that. 711 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,640 And we know some pretty adventurous people. 712 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,880 We, you know, we know gay couples who are open, right? 713 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,640 And I guess we statistically probably know some straight 714 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,800 couples that are open, but we don't talk about it as much with 715 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,160 much of a conversation. But what I find interesting 716 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,880 about it is that they're just so quickly to just kind of just be 717 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,560 saying, Oh yeah, we've cheated on each other without, without. 718 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,480 Saying it, They didn't say it. Yeah, right. 719 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,760 That's why I think at the reunion. 720 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,240 And he needs to like, let's get some clarity on this. 721 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,120 What was that conversation? Yeah, because I just couldn't 722 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,160 imagine one of our friends come just walking in to meet, meet us 723 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,120 for oysters and then. Just let me take off my purple 724 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,200 beret and have a conversation. And it's like, what the what 725 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,400 sound? It was it was really because 726 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,520 everything else is about, you know, the situation on the plane 727 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,680 and then just go like completely laughed and like, wait, what? 728 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,680 Salt Lake, the show that keeps on giving. 729 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,400 It really does. It really, really does it. 730 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,400 Really does so leaning in. Now I know why it was one of the 731 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,400 questions on pop culture Jeopardy test. 732 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,080 It's a phenomenon. It's a phenomenon. 733 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:10,040 So did we miss anyone so? Well, that we well the end with 734 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,840 Meredith and and. Oh, I was kind of already 735 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,360 getting into that a little bit, but. 736 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,560 Well, I just it was just so I'm sorry. 737 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,120 When Mary is the voice of reason, he knows like things you 738 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,199 have failed. Like Meredith was just like, 739 00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:27,840 Nope, didn't happen, didn't happen. 740 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,600 There I kept getting it in my mind that Mary was trying to 741 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,120 say, I'm saying this to you because I think you might have 742 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,679 some sort of problem. I'm concerned because you're not 743 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:39,280 remembering what actually happened, right? 744 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,840 And the. Really, it's like, no, she 745 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,320 remembers what happened. She's not going to admit it 746 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,199 because she was on camera. But it could also be, and we've 747 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:50,560 heard rumors in the past of Meredith microdosing different 748 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,920 things and having Xanax and whatever. 749 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,000 I mean it could very well have been and she blacked out because 750 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,280 of some. Sort of substance had a Zani 751 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,720 rage. Well, yeah, could have been. 752 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,000 Thought that's just a mellow you out. 753 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000 You'd think, but some people they just make normal. 754 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,880 Her body fight fought back against it. 755 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,520 Right. Maybe she had an Ambien and she 756 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,000 didn't fall asleep through it. I She watched 22 movies, I. 757 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,440 Don't know which movies which. Movies Counselor. 758 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,040 Yeah. Oh yeah. 759 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,440 Which movies were like idea like right there I know think about 760 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,040 it, which movies? Good. 761 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,040 Someone should ask. We should. 762 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,600 We should write that into the reunion, Andy, we wanted. 763 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,080 Meredith, what movies were you watching? 764 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,080 We want to know which 2 movies Meredith was watching. 765 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:35,120 Allegedly, yeah, Mary was very concerned and she was just like, 766 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,880 you're not going to sell me on this. 767 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,520 Like I heard it, I saw it. It's not what I think happened. 768 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,240 It's what I know happened. There was one point where she 769 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:45,640 went away from the I've heard this. 770 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,040 I saw it with my own eyes. They started talking about 771 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,840 something else and you could tell some time had passed in the 772 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,800 argument, or maybe they just edited a little. 773 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,400 Top of it. Yeah, something happened. 774 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,200 And then she came back to No. I heard it with my own ears and 775 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,600 saw my own eyes. She said it again, but in a much 776 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,760 different way, as if to say they'd talked long enough where 777 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,960 Meredith was trying to get her onto her side, where she said 778 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,400 no. Let me remind you. 779 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,480 I heard it. Well, Meredith tried to say like 780 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,440 you were asleep and you had headphones on, but not she 781 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,040 thought she might have not been able to write a whole court 782 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,000 report. What's a whole? 783 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,760 Right, right. I'll think of you. 784 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,000 Keep talking. About is it like giving, you 785 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,920 know, a detailed description of everything that happened, a 786 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,760 transcript, affidavit? I was thinking his transcript. 787 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,080 OK. There's more, there's. 788 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,640 More when you're. I'll go look that up. 789 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,760 Later, she couldn't write a transcript about what happened 790 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,920 on this flight, but she did hear parts of it. 791 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,000 And the part she heard were was Mary Meredith losing her mind, 792 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,440 right, basically. And so you can't tell her she 793 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,720 didn't hear that, but Meredith is doing exactly that. 794 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:56,120 So and just Mary, which is like, I'm really concerned because 795 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,320 she's just not taking accountability. 796 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,120 So Mary's probably, Mary thought, OK, Mary just thought 797 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,200 that she forgot, or she was just like, maybe blacked out. 798 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,680 But now I'm thinking she remembers, but she's just not 799 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,880 gonna own this. Yeah, because you can't catch 800 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,440 her because there wasn't a camera on her. 801 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,200 She wasn't miked. So it's her word against ours. 802 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,920 And that's bullshit. That is what do you do, man? 803 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,880 I know. I mean, I don't feel like that, 804 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,880 Adam. I'm not like mad at Meredith. 805 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,720 I'm just like, it's just really bizarre. 806 00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:28,760 It is bizarre and that's. Like you like, try to make 807 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,920 somebody believe they didn't see what they saw. 808 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,800 But that's what this entire show is. 809 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,240 Is everyone gaslighting everyone else? 810 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:39,080 Right. In this respect, there's nothing 811 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,040 to prove otherwise. And I couldn't help but wonder, 812 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,960 was it us who were being gas lit? 813 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,960 Yes, I want someone on that plane like to like bust out some 814 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:54,360 footage and I want I want to speak to Angie eating her 815 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,520 popcorn, recording secretly. I thought it was interesting 816 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,280 that they showed the TikTok creator's name and everything on 817 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,360 the video and then they. About the Seth thing. 818 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,640 Right about the Seth thing, because that's now legitimizing 819 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,640 more Blogger, you know, creator kind of content and that's 820 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,280 giving kind of, you know, you don't give the serial killer's 821 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,520 name, you know, because then they'll do it again. 822 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,640 It's like if you start legitimate all these content 823 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,680 creators featuring them on the show, it's going to continue to 824 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,840 inspire others to try and do the same. 825 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:29,400 Well luckily I mean they haven't gotten as bad as say OC yes in 826 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,680 this regard. I think after Monica they 827 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,000 probably ultimately pack. Like just just don't. 828 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,200 Yeah, that's true. Not. 829 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,080 That they're not. I'm sure 12345 of them talking 830 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,000 to bloggers or content creators, but it hasn't made it into a 831 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,360 story. I mean, it's part of a story 832 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,520 because and that's what set me off. 833 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,920 But you know, Brittany could have said like, oh, I just heard 834 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,560 something or I saw something kept it light. 835 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,320 But yeah, the fact that they right. 836 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,240 Yeah. Can Katie move to Salt Lake 837 00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:58,440 City? Do you think that would go over 838 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,200 well? I I think at this point, like 839 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,760 it's such a good group that I wouldn't want them to, like, 840 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,120 change it at all. Oh, no one plays a part. 841 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,320 I agree. Yeah. 842 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,880 And anyone who was like, oh, I don't know, like, what does 843 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,440 Whitney do? Whitney like did some work. 844 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:19,360 Yeah. And I was like, OK, I'm going to 845 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,920 help you out of here, sister. I I also started thinking like, 846 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,400 was Whitney being all excited? Like, oh, another, another 847 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,120 couple that swings. But then I I thought, Oh no, 848 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,560 then that means she'd have to swing with Todd. 849 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,080 He probably doesn't want that. Sure, he does not want to swing 850 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,440 that way. No. 851 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no gout Dick. 852 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,760 She's like, come here. I've been waiting to figure I 853 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,200 wanted to get a load of that. What is Gout Dick? 854 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,080 Oh no. I take that back. 855 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,840 No, Sir. All right, now that we've gotten 856 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,200 the gout Dick, what we've really gone downhill in this. 857 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,440 It did. It did. 858 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,720 Have we talked about everyone? Angie didn't really have much to 859 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:00,720 do in this. At all. 860 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,080 Yeah, that's why they. Oh, that whole like 15 minute 861 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,920 Greek scene. I was that was also like setting 862 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,120 up the Greece trip. Oh, the mid season meets the mid 863 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,440 season trailer. Oh, there's a lot. 864 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:16,880 There was a lot, some of it, like it wasn't that much that we 865 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,840 hadn't already. Yeah, I feel like that was the 866 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,400 same as well that like it was kind of just re re enforcing 867 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,360 what we kind of already needed. It's basically it's like, well, 868 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,800 that slummer party, we haven't seen anything about him. 869 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:31,440 They dressed up in some costumes again. 870 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,960 They go to Greece, Todd and Bron wouldn't have awkward 871 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,600 conversations. Oh, John Barlow, you know, 872 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,240 fighting back at that was good. That was good. 873 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,280 Yeah. I think that was that was the 874 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,840 big stand out moment. I just can't believe it's 875 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,120 already halfway through the season. 876 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,880 What episode is this? This I think is episode 8, maybe 877 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,960 9. I think you know, a good short 878 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,720 season. I'd rather have that than like 879 00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,000 so really meandering season with some fillers for sure. 880 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,080 That's the thing, Salt Lake does not give you filler. 881 00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:03,680 I feel like we had one filler. Episode there was, yes. 882 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,960 But still, they're allowed one. Right. 883 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,680 They can't like, you know, show each other's paces off every 884 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,560 episode. Apparently they can so. 885 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,520 I'm fine. So yeah, no, it's going going 886 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,440 well. OK. 887 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,200 I think our next podcast will be some sort of something from 888 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,600 Bravo Con. If we're lucky and timing works 889 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,120 out, we're going to look awful without proper lighting. 890 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,320 Who's that ghost in the room? Well, I mean like I like, I 891 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,640 don't look like the most pale person on the planet now. 892 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,560 No, you don't. Oh well, I am. 893 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,720 We'll talk about all this next time. 894 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:40,400 Till next. Time.